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Scam Factory

Shoot to Kill | 1

Mon, 24 Feb 2025

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When Max lands a new job abroad with a life-changing salary, he jumps at the opportunity. But when he arrives after a harrowing journey, he realizes he’s been tricked. And this job is not one he can easily quit.Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterFollow Scam Factory on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to episodes early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting www.wondery.com/links/scam-factory/ now. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Chapter 1: What is the premise of 'Shoot to Kill'?

0.389 - 28.191 Narrator/Denise Chan

Wondery Plus subscribers can binge all episodes of Scam Factory early and ad-free. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. A new side hustle has just landed in your lap. Like literally landed in your lap. All you had to do was respond to a random Facebook post and boom.

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28.772 - 36.037 Luna

Hi, I'm Luna from Hotel Hub. Our recruitment team sent us your application. Are you looking for an online booking assistant job?

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36.866 - 50.778 Narrator/Denise Chan

Luna gets you set up in the company's WhatsApp group called Deal Smashers with a dollar sign eyes emoji and its tongue sticking out. The gig is super easy. Review a few hotels and make a couple hundred bucks.

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51.358 - 54.921 Luna

Now that you've gone through the training, I'll start assigning you reviews so you can get started.

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55.822 - 57.904 Narrator/Denise Chan

Plus, Luna seems really nice.

58.484 - 61.187 Luna

You can add my personal WhatsApp. We can chat there.

62.11 - 73.233 Narrator/Denise Chan

Her picture on WhatsApp shows a pretty smiling woman who looks very approachable. She sends you photos of her dog, her meals, shares tidbits about her day, asks how you're doing.

73.774 - 76.314 Luna

Have you eaten yet? I just sat down to eat lunch.

77.055 - 85.837 Narrator/Denise Chan

You come to like Luna, to trust her. She uses a lot of emojis. She really likes the smiling one with the blushing cheeks.

Chapter 2: How does the recruitment process for the scam begin?

350.407 - 359.691 Charlie

It's just going to be like a simple launch, like meet and greet, and we have a chance to talk and ask questions for these employers. I'm going to call her Charlie.

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360.231 - 376.019 Narrator/Denise Chan

It's not a real name. Like almost everyone in this story, their names have been changed for reasons that will become obvious. Anyway, Charlie and her girlfriend were here with Charlie's youngest brother, Max, because he was very interested in a new job opportunity abroad.

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376.359 - 381.942 Charlie

I was like, okay, can I join? Because I was very curious what's going on, what he's into.

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382.975 - 388.941 Narrator/Denise Chan

Max was in his late 20s now, with young kids of his own. But to Charlie, he was still her kid brother.

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388.961 - 407.339 Charlie

I am the eldest. I am always the one who takes care of everything. Because my parents are already old, they always say, ate, because when you say the word ate, that's what we call the older sister. So everyone's like, ate, can you help me on this? Ate, can you help me on that? So I am really eager to know everything.

407.899 - 429.598 Narrator/Denise Chan

Charlie knew that Max was worried about money. He was making about $250 a month giving rides to people in their family van. But after the pandemic, business had fallen off. And nowadays, the rising price of gas meant when Max did get a booking, sometimes he wouldn't even make a profit off it. So Charlie understood why Max was interested in this job in Thailand.

430.299 - 446.845 Narrator/Denise Chan

He'd said it was some sort of online casino gig. And more importantly, it paid about $1,000 per month. He just wanted to have a good future for his kids. Charlie had never heard of this company. But she knew working outside of the country could be sketchy.

447.325 - 473.127 Charlie

I wanted to make sure first that they will be going in a legitimate company. As Max and the group made small talk, Charlie kept her eye on the entrance. So I was looking at, who is this guy? Who is this guy? So I was like, maybe this guy, maybe this one, maybe not. I was expecting someone like in a business casual attire because he's an employer. But the man who walked in wasn't that.

Chapter 3: Who is Luna and what is her role in the scam?

473.748 - 486.098 Charlie

He was somewhere in late 30s. Not very tall guy. Curly hair. He was wearing shorts, T-shirts, like a body bag. They call it a body bag. Body bag, like a fanny pack.

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486.659 - 491.628 Narrator/Denise Chan

And then slippers. The guy with the fanny pack and slippers sat down.

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492.289 - 513.071 Charlie

He looked Chinese. His first words were, why did you not order yet? And then he started calling the waiter and then distributing the menus to the people. And then he said, order what you want to eat and I'll pay for it. He was like very generous. The man introduced himself. We'll call him Dev. Dev was friendly, chill even.

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513.512 - 521.521 Charlie

You will not feel intimidated at him even though he is like the quote-unquote employer. He was cool. He sounds so nice.

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522.162 - 541.589 Narrator/Denise Chan

Dev got down to business. He reiterated the basics of the job. Thailand, online casino, $1,000 a month. And he just said that everything will be for free. Accommodations and food would be provided, and that they'd be staying at a job campus that had everything they needed. Workers wouldn't even have to leave.

542.737 - 565.262 Narrator/Denise Chan

As the others around the table piled pieces of pork and fish onto their plates, Charlie kept focused on Dev, asking question after question. The thing is, this is going to be about my brother. That's why I kept on asking questions. She asked Dev about visas, work permits, and how they get employees out of the country. She asked whether they were licensed and even the logistics of travel.

565.763 - 584.23 Charlie

He was very, very, very friendly. Like he was ready to tell everything or answer every damn question that I throw at him. And when Charlie asked Dove about whether it was actually safe. He said 100% safe. He looks very sincere. He's walking like eye to eye. He's having an eye to eye contact.

585.422 - 605.582 Narrator/Denise Chan

After that lunch, Dev even offered Charlie a free plane ticket to go see for herself. She flew to Bangkok and traveled to the place where Max would be working. After three days checking things out, she felt reassured. She flew home and told Max the place was cool. If he wanted to take the job, it seemed safe to do so.

605.982 - 609.646 Charlie

Because I already have an idea. If shit happens, I know where to find you.

Chapter 4: What is the truth about Luna and the recruitment scam?

1636.102 - 1644.745 Narrator/Denise Chan

A bonus? And Shaina would tell me, oh no, don't worry. This is a good thing. You can make even more money by booking hotels too.

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1645.455 - 1651.918 Jane

The hotel that you book is giving big commission, giving 5 to 10% commission.

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1652.418 - 1658.941 Narrator/Denise Chan

The hotel is willing to pay a big commission if I complete the booking because it makes the online reviews more legitimate.

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1659.442 - 1664.544 Jane

So all you need to do is, for the meantime, you need to deposit this amount.

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1665.703 - 1671.044 Narrator/Denise Chan

Shayna tells me to just pay the negative amount displayed on the screen with my own money.

1671.805 - 1685.368 Jane

That is one of the hardest part because I know most of the people will not believe it. The trick is how are you going to convince the customer on putting money? How are you going to approach the customer to make them believe that everything there is true?

1686.049 - 1697.795 Narrator/Denise Chan

At this point, I have doubts. I've never heard of something like this. So I'd ask Shaina, are you sure I need to put my own money in? Are you sure I'll get my money back?

1698.776 - 1706.941 Jane

My approach, I do not want to convince the customer. I'm just saying, I understand the customer. Okay, if you do not want to do it, just leave it.

1707.362 - 1713.866 Narrator/Denise Chan

Wait, wait, wait, wait. If I don't do it, what would happen to all the money I'd already earned? I've already raided a dozen hotels.

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