Matt McCusker

wild wild west hey welcome to matt and shane secret podcast i'm here today with rowan jacobson what's up man how you doing i'm doing great i'm happy to be here i've been awaiting this i i've if you guys don't know i have a little booking service that you know throw me guest ideas i saw the sunlight book and i was like i gotta gotta talk to you i i happen to be deep in uh

What is it called?

Heliotherapy, you call it.

Just get in the sunlight.

Yeah, I'm a big sunlight guy right now.

As you can see, my nose, I'm like, I have, I'm bad with it though.

This is like three days of sunburn on sunburn.

So I just keep going deeper and deeper into it and I'll be fine.

But yeah, I'm a huge proponent of sunlight, man.

It's the best.

Because I was telling you, I grew up on the East Coast, Northeast.

And just those winters would crush me, man.

When I read the beginning of your book, when you're saying how you're just like, you know, you're in Vermont and you're just like, no matter what you do in the winter up there, you literally don't feel the sun touch your skin.

And then after, it just makes me like, I really do get like, ugh, thinking about it.

And yeah, ever since I've been down here, these hot summers, I'm like still having complaints.

Like people are like, oh, it's too hot.

I'm like, you have no idea what the lack of light feels like, man.

It's horrible.

All year round if you're a fat white guy, apparently.

Fat white guys.