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Yeah, it doesn't feel good.

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He's just so angry. How long are we going to be circling? You know, he's in a private plane and they're circling and his blood pressure's going through the roof. And it's like...

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Yeah, yeah. You know?

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But, you know, it's like...

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I think this is a really important moment to make a distinction in those types of generosity, because what we think might be generous might be something else. It might be transactional. It might be really just commerce. And you can be generous in many ways, even giving somebody a compliment. That's a generous act, right?

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And if it's coming from a place where there's no attachment to how it's received, to the self that's giving it, then it can be pure. There's so many aspects here where it's easy to fall into the trap of having a string attached to what we're giving and it actually tainting the experience. And that's why there's so much emphasis on the mental volition and the Eastern wisdom traditions.

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When you're doing any act, It's like the intention's intention. Like really, why are you doing it? Where is it coming from energetically within you?

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It's so important to define what that is for us, right? Because we're fed with so many notions of what it means to be rich or wealthy, but We all have a different psychological makeup and what's going to make us uniquely fulfilled. And so how important do you feel like that question from a wide perspective is to ask?

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And if I give you a compliment about how I love your podcast or whatever, and I'm like expecting for you to ask me about mine or like give me a compliment in return or build a relationship for some reason so it benefits me, it's just not pure generosity.

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It also makes me think of tithing and giving to charity, you know, and there's that quote in the Bible of don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. It's good. It stood the test of time, you know, because even the act of giving in that aspect and I just want to breathe some compassion into this whole process because like, we're not perfect beings.

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It sometimes gets a little bit muddy and we're doing the best with the current level of awareness we have. But what is your perspective on tithing and giving as it's an essential aspect of being a prosperous individual with that quality?

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I do. I feel like I have room to grow. Um, and, and I want to give more. And it's also why I'm driven to grow my businesses and all this stuff because it, it expands my container and capacity to, to give to charities and organizations that I really believe in and people that I love.

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And just like, I love celebrating with money and just giving it to people unexpectedly and like people that I believe in. And, um, And I think it's important to also do it in private and like not share necessarily online. I think there's a both there.

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We often so underestimate the simple act of inviting somebody on a trip like that. Because you think of how full circle that moment is, and I'm not saying you're the sole inspiration, but I know probably a big part of when he went to go on and do Karmagawa and then invited me to go on that Nigeria trip with him and Matt. And that was a very impactful trip for me. We went to the rural...

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City of Makoko and like real true poverty and giving back to the kids and seeing the joy that was on their face, even in very poverty. Yeah.

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Man, I think I just... you just grow up in the States, you're just in a bubble. And especially like even middle class is so affluent compared to the rest of the world. So getting to really see, you know, people that walk miles for water and might go full day without eating food or, you know, doing whatever they can to provide for their family and. No toilets. Yeah, it's like.

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And I went as kind of like supporting with the media when I went. And it was really beautiful to connect with even just the drivers there. And then this one lady I took a photo of, I'll throw it up on screen, with her children. And yeah, just seeing the heart of that all in action. And I think it just expanded my container for the context of what's happening on planet Earth.

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and also how resilient people are and my desire to give and really support. Interesting. So it definitely shifted a lot. When was that trip? Probably six, seven years ago. Uh-huh.

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I was talking with this guy at the end of my last silent retreat, and he was just worried about not getting a screen card. He's going to go back to India. And I was asking him kind of about the process of that and how it might be a bummer. He might not be able to stay here and work. And he's like, actually, like, not really. Like...

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there is while it's a lot different you know being in different parts of india and it's very crowded and all these different you know aspects of the economy um there is more of a spiritual poverty here in the states comparatively and and so it's like there is a balance scale and you know there's a lot of inner rich life in in india it's just bursting in the seat at the seams with all of it

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So it's really, yeah, it's definitely expanded my container of what it means to have a rich, like a truly rich, prosperous.

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I would say like chosen soul tribe community family around me that are aligned with my values. So community is definitely a big one. Contributing meaningfully how I uniquely have the capacity to towards a more beautiful world. So, you know, really giving, but like in the active expression of my unique skills. Maybe that's music or that's events or that's whatever.

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Yeah, my capacity for podcasting and media and questioning and all these things. Yeah. Physical vitality. So like eating whole foods from the earth, drinking clean water, exercising, and just having a healthy muscular system where I can move and run and all the things. Definitely giving, like giving more directly.

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I think it can get quite philosophical the more I do podcasts and I want to make it more direct.

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I think about the qualities that we can cultivate as a human being that then attracts and magnetizes to us what's meant for us in so many ways and the right amounts of finances. So we're not too stressed, but it covers our needs and allows us to creatively express to all the different areas of life. And we're really, we have it backwards.

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I would love to at least give a couple million dollars a year. What does that mean? Two, three, four million? Like one or two right now. I think I want to continue expanding it as I grow.

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I think realistically as scaling, probably 10% of tithing for like an annual year is probably a good goal. So like 10 million bucks in a year.

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Well, I love these thought experiments because it stretches you into your potential.

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It would take more of me. It would just take, I think, clarification of the why, I think, first and foremost. Like when you know why you're giving where you're giving, it drives you and would drive me. So clarifying that, I think. Doubling down on delegating and growing a team that can support me, doing what my irreplaceable kind of zone is. And just, you know, continuing to scale things

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what I'm currently doing, I think, and make space for the unknown to support me in that process. So I like that thought exercise. And I think it's really useful for anybody who's listening right now to also think of, you know, not just because... for the sake of trying to do as much as you can in your lifetime by tomorrow.

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But it does, there is that saying that like 10X is easier than 2X and like being able to stretch yourself and think in ways that are kind of quantum jumps from your, you know, typical linear way of thinking.

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The honest answer is I don't know because it's kind of outside of the realm of my current awareness.

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And most people are familiar with this notion of have, do, be. Once I have X, Y, and Z, then I'll be able to do X, Y, and Z, and then I can be happy, fulfilled, et cetera.

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Yeah. And I also think, of course, yeah, like having giving to yourself and making sure, you know, because I feel I live a very abundant, prosperous life right now. And there's levels, of course, to this. But in terms of my own needs, like I don't need a nicer car, really. You know, I don't need a bigger house, even though I will, you know, probably in the next few years. Yeah, of course.

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I don't need it. What I am driven by is even not just donating that money strictly to another organization, but also investing it into spiritual infrastructure in ways that I feel like really give towards the evolution of consciousness on human, on, on, on earth, you know?

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I guess this conversation is really inviting us to flip it in reverse and seeing how we can cultivate the qualities of who I want to be for life, for others, the universe, my work, my relationships, and then I'll be able to do, and then the things I have will be a byproduct of those efforts.

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And so giving in ways that look like a real transformation in the lives of people and figuring out how to support other people that are doing that. And then my own way of doing that as well.

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It is important to, I guess, reflect on how money is all intertwined with this. And yet I also really, I see how that can scale the impact of what I'm really here and I know what you're really here to do and be about, which is the actual healing and supporting of humans out there. And that to me is like what I truly wish to scale. And so money in that aspect

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as it doesn't have a negative or positive charge inherently as a tool, as a resource to be able to scale transformation and healing. So yeah, that's all great.

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Yeah. Yeah, I know. And that contrast of experience when you have the history of being, feeling broken and You know, all those things that I feel like it just gives you so much empathy for building on the path to really support people in a way that can truly be supported because you know what supported you. Yes. And so, yeah, I've for sure had many moments of that in my life.

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And I know you've had many moments in yours. When was the moment you felt the most rich? Right now. Yeah. Yeah. Um, just in my life right now, I've had moments like if we're talking about kind of from like a period of life, I feel the most rich right now.

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If we're talking about like specific moments, I would say trips like that in Nigeria, um, or trips with my men's group to like a new location deep in nature where we're really connecting, connected to the elements and diving deep together. Um, I would say those, you know, and then also like The simple joys of having Christmas with my family.

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I feel like I can find those really meaningful moments more and more these days. Wow, that's beautiful.

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Yeah, I mean, I definitely say I thrive alone. I love to spend a lot of time alone.

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They are, yeah. And so I can be a homebody to a fault sometimes. What would you say for you is the most richest?

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Thanks, man. It's beautiful to, I guess, witness the fruits of doing the work for a long period of time and the sincere devotion towards healing those parts of yourself. And it's just a really exciting new chapter. I'm excited to see. I'm excited, man.

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I think getting to that point where you really do feel youthful in spirit and you get life by what you're doing and you're rewarded abundantly financially and all these things is discovering those qualities within you. And part of the revealing of that is investing in yourself truly.

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And for getting to the point to where you're at now, what have been the most important ways you've invested in yourself over the years that have cultivated to this point?

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it's easy for us to slip back into that, oh, happiness is just around the corner after that one little thing or new milestone or number. And yeah, it's so important to get advice from people who live a, your definition of a rich life, who have those meaningful connections and are contributing to a more beautiful world and are financially abundant and are physically vital and like these things. And

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Because you used to live in like a smaller home and now you've got a bigger home and you're in like the canyon. Yeah, there's an art to biting off more than you can chew and figuring out how to swallow it. Exactly. And you really grow to the size of the pot you're in. And so like when I moved in here, it was way stretching me beyond my financial capacity at the time.

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And I made that decision to like, okay, the next 12 months are going to be hard, but I want to see the version of me that becomes, that is a match to that on the other side of it. What did you create in the last year? A lot of abundance that like now it's easy. Now it's the new normal, you know?

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Thing is, I don't think... a certain amount of space equates to a certain amount of possibility. So I think you can do a lot with a little. Of course. But the more space you have to grow in, like the studio is now twice as big. We have more cameras. We have room for building out a music studio section and a photo shoot area. Stretching lab. Yeah, we were stretching for 15 minutes before.

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And so there's been more possibility as the space has increased. And it's, like you said, you're... You... create your environment and then your environment informs who you are and it really affects you. And so you think about all the signals you're getting from imagine having a dirty place that's not organized, that is stuff bought that's like, you know, really like poorly made things.

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I decided when I was getting this place to like any purchase I'm going to make, whether it's a piece of furniture, a piece of equipment or technology, going to find the absolute best thing I can purchase. It's beautiful. I'm going to have it for the rest of my life. It's going to be a reflection of abundant and it's going to be quality.

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Those individuals that I've talked to, and I'm sure that you've talked to, have really put emphasis on the beginning part of who you're being. And so I would love for us to kind of break down and get your perspective on all the qualities of that abundant person.

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And I think that feedback loop, it creates almost like what you expect more of and what you become a match to, which is really valuable.

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Yeah. It's, it's so valuable and rewarding when you get to that place and invest into your environment. Um, I probably even more so than it would have been wise to at different points, really invest into the environment that I live in my home. Um, I'm 28. Yeah.

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I think I'm just really grateful to have like had great teachers and been exposed to important, you know, valuable information earlier on. And so I kind of started this journey like closer to 15, 16 years old.

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But, you know, when I moved out of my house at 18 and I went and, again, was living, splitting an $800 crappy apartment with four other, three other dorm roommates, you make up for, I guess, what your environment is feeding you in terms of imagination and inspiration.

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Like the qualities we cultivate internally, and then we can go and talk about the money, the relationships, the things that kind of come on the journey after that.

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And that, like, it's cool to, like, have a vision that is completely imaginative in your mind and then to bring it forth into the physical.

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is the creative act of what it means to be human yes you know and it's so exciting to be on that journey it's like one big it's a big video game you know and um and i want to focus a little bit more on that aspect of bringing kind of the immaterial visions that we have in life into the physical yeah because you've done it very well yeah and there's a lot of insights around it so

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When it comes to investing in yourself, we talked about generosity earlier. I'm just curious, what are the most prominent value you've given to others that was non-monetary? Because so much of this path is like who you know, building relationships and giving to people. And I'm just curious, like how you've given to people. Where I didn't get money in return, you mean?

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Yeah, maybe like where you weren't expecting any money in return, but you're providing value still.

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I'm sure you've had so many meaningful moments when people come up to you sharing about how the show has been impactful to them and how it saved their life or impacted or met their partner or like whatever it might be. And those moments you feel the impact of what you're doing and it really resonates and is so helpful to continue helping you drive what you're going to do.

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And we can afford that to other people in so many different ways.

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For people that want to, again, bridge the vision of what they have, they imagine this on their vision board or whatever it might be into the physical reality. I learned this framework many years ago about the law of compensation, which says that you'll be compensated in direct proportion to the need for what you do, your ability to do it, and the difficulty in replacing you.

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And a part of building value in the world is building ancillary skill sets that really supports you. And that's why I've always thought it's really important, even if you're not living in what you feel like is your dharma or your north node, which again, we're always, even not being on our path is being on our path. You know, like,

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working in an industry that you want to one day be a pioneer in, I think is really valuable. Like being a videographer, which helps you, you know, in production, if you want to make movies or become a producer or start a podcast where they're very visual now, like there's so many things that I think really help if you focus on those ancillary skill sets.

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And so when you... That's what you did before you came here. Yeah, for sure. And I think it's also what you did. Like it's what we all do in the journey. Like you and your... Efforts through LinkedIn and networking and building value really informed and supported you.

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I'm sure that courageousness and fearlessness translates to your career and work and taking risks for your purpose and whatnot. I know for sure for me, and I would love for you to share what you did in your new book, Make Money Easy, about the mastermind habit and the power and importance of relationships and being around people that you're inspired by.

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none of us were wealthy or rich but we all had the desire to become and become rich and prosperous individual and being able to kind of have that iron sharpens irons i think is really important and then you can afford mentors and coaches or yes you know whatever um and of course they don't have to be alive you don't have to pay for them there's so many resources online now through podcasting and books and all the things but what is the mastermind habit and the importance of it

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You know, I think that in so many ways is one of the biggest supporting factors in us feeling supported and in our meaningful mission in life. And when I say meaningful mission, and when you use that verbiage,

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It's really, it feels like the difference between forcing your way through the world and having money and abundance and prosperity be magnetized to you because of your alignment with what you're here uniquely to do and have the capacity to do. I think we can do many things and support in many ways, but we are unique individuals with unique skill sets and knowledge and experience.

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And the more that we're, I guess, leveraging that and living in alignment with that, it feels like we can make money by mistake often. It comes to us. And so how important is discovering your meaningful mission on the pursuit of that?

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It feels like it can actually be a test. In many ways, your yes doesn't have value until you leverage your no. 100%, man.

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But there is so much value in the courage of saying no to even at times money that would be very useful to you and you could make... You could support your team and do things with it, but the place it's coming from isn't in full alignment. And when you say no to that, I feel like it opens up more of what's a full yes. It does.

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So important. So important and really helps us refine our North Star. I think so.

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Totally, yeah. I did that for a season and it worked, but now I'm... Yeah, I'd rather just do it for free for people that, you know, I really believe in and want to support now that it's not a need. Yes. But... Yeah, it's such an interesting trap. And like having the lack of boundaries for that, just it's not a good recipe for success. It's not, man.

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Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And now I, for sure, I've turned down hundreds of thousands of dollars from brands and from people and from opportunities that I just, I don't see myself being a part of. And I think there's, there's freedom in that when you're not a slave to just making more money, just to make more money, it's like, No, your time is so valuable.

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I want to expand on this. So like the biggest money blocks, a big one is what we're talking about right now. We often don't put value on our worth. And, you know, as you start to develop these skill sets, it's important for you to like charge your price.

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Even if you're in a spiritual space, some people put that in a taboo and think that you shouldn't be able to make a living and that you should be in poverty or something, you know? There's all these stories we have around money. And so I'm just curious what you think are the most disempowering ones and the importance of knowing your value and charging it.

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Probably a little bit less stoked. I would say don't love having to do that. But also that is a reflection of making a lot more money too. So I would say ultimately it's worth it.

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Man, I feel like so many of us, to degrees we're unaware of, have a relationship with money that is very avoided, very anxious. Like that attachment style is so real. And we treat it sort of as this like ugly stepchild that we don't want to have to focus, but we need money.

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Yeah, if you're broken, miserable, at least you have the illusion of one day I won't be.

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So important, man. Thank you for sharing that reminder. And for anybody that's listening and has resistance to when the money conversation comes up repeatedly, it's important to ask yourself why. If becoming a prosperous individual is, yes, a mental, physical, relational thing, but also financial journey.

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Like there's money is an aspect in the, in the modern world and the capitalistic society that we can't just ignore. It's a, it's a tool. And I think we do have so much charge around it in our story of it. And we don't really see it as a resource and as a tool and something that just amplifies more of who you are, but we see it as this sort of thing that is causing so many issues in the world.

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And, you know, it is a complicated subject, but, If you really believe you're doing important work here, then more money is just a means for amplifying important work in the world. Exactly.

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So good, man, because... we can view money as a means to empower us to amplify our freedom or perpetuate our own prison. The relationship we have to it, again, is just so insidious in so many ways. And so, yeah, these are really important.

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Yeah, that's a great question. I would say that what it means to be human is to have the capacity to move beyond any boundaries and limitations that are set on us. And being a slave to money is a limitation and boundary of expressing our true nature as a creative being.

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no matter what area, what topic of life it is, if we have stuck energy around it, if we don't feel safe around it, if we don't have the capacity to own it, then it's limiting us and we are limitless. And so whether it's money or sexual energy or business or creativity, wherever there's a block, there's an opportunity to expand beyond that block. And so when it comes to money, it becomes a taboo.

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You can get comfortable in the environment that you're in and the people that are around you that share similar beliefs around money that are sort of unspoken. And so what I would say is to first spend time with people who don't have that same money story. Spend time around people that think much more expansively and don't have blocks around money. And then start to challenge your own notion.

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And write down a lot of the questions we had in this conversation. What does it mean to live a rich life? What are my stories about money? And then I think that starts to shift the direction of your focus around it. And then you're given the opportunity. I feel like in life so often you're given the same lesson until you pass the test.

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And when, let's say, you're an artist and you sell paintings and you sell them for a couple hundred bucks, but you feel like the value is they're $1,000 or $2,000. You're given an opportunity next time somebody wants to buy your painting and asks for a discount to say, no, this is what it's worth. And that's uncomfortable, but it is an opportunity for you to really refine what your value is.

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And you'll be shocked at the level of abundance that comes in as a byproduct of you standing for what your value and worth is. Yeah, man, that's powerful. Yeah.

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And it's so valuable because when you see how money really is just a story, beyond taking care of your own needs, whether a hundred grand or a million or a hundred million, it becomes kind of your norm way of like annual revenue. It is a story. And you learn that when you talk to really abundant people who are extremely wealthy financially. And... how it's the norm. You almost expect it. Yes.

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And so obviously you create what you expect more of and what you believe your value is worth.

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Yeah. The spiritual community is called planet earth and there's 7.8 billion people.

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Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Man, that's so good. And, uh, and I think really valuable and something that I would have loved to get advice on, you know, 10 years ago would have been really valuable for me. And, um, Yeah, what do you think, because I'm still on my money mastery journey, do you feel like you're similarly, like you still have a lot to learn?

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That's the important thing to, as we start to wrap up here too, is again, just clarify, is that the life you want? Yeah. There's no right or wrong amount of money to be making. It's, is it an amount that you actually desire that you feel good with? And is that a rich life for you? Yeah. Do you feel rich? And that's a different amount for everyone.

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Lewis, my man, welcome back. Thanks for having me, man. Yeah, it's my pleasure. What does it mean and what does it look like for you? What does it feel like to live a rich, prosperous, and abundant life?

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Yeah, it's again living in harmony with in relationship to money because it can easily tip over to the other side where maybe we're not giving enough awareness or attention to that money conversation. But then it can very quickly to becoming possessed by our possessions and focusing so much on money. You can't make it your God either.

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As it can and has for so many, like you just said, you know, I like things. I like having a nice place and nice equipment and all this. And it can, and I thought it almost did at one of the nights, disappear in a moment. Wow.

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Uh, it was a, yeah, it was a lot. There was a lot of emotions. It was full spectrum. Um, there was on one end sort of total freedom from like the unknown and just like, I don't know what's going to happen. And I trust, um, to like, damn, I poured so much time and energy and money into all the stuff. And time is money.

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What it did inspire was that like the gratitude of really what the studio is, which is really just a radio signal, an antenna for building a community throughout the world, which is actually what I love and what I'm passionate about. Like this studio, while it's nice, I enjoy being in it, is really just a means for what my purpose is. And so it also, I had a shift coming back to of like, okay,

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i want to continue to spend more money on experiences on you know building community like a lot of those things that build spiritual richness you know um now that i've gotten like a lot of the material stuff in place as well continue to pour into those buckets because those don't go away. Those can't be burned away.

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It's so true. I look back at anytime I've done like a meditation retreat or spend prolonged periods of silence, always what comes up is memories of just extreme joy and play and excitement and adventure. Yeah. That stuff is really what creates a true life. And again, money is just a means to support that. Absolutely. Yeah. This was an awesome conversation. Thanks for having me, man.

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I appreciate it. It was fun. I loved it. I think it's really important to talk about. And it's such an empowering conversation. And yeah, I really want to invite people to, whether you're listening on Spotify or YouTube, and you have a comment section to drop down below what your takeaways are in terms of your money story. What does a rich life mean to you? I pay attention. I read the comments.

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I really think it's important to reflect on that as a community. And if you want to dive deeper in Lewis's teachings and thoughts around all this as well, Make Money Easy is the book, which you can find linked down below. And any other last words, bro?

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I think your life and how you've decided to live is an example of that, man. So I see you as somebody who lives a very rich life and... Any advice or thoughts or shared conversation, it hits different when it's coming from somebody who lives what they practice and what they preach. Thanks, man.

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10 out of 10. It is. Yeah. Well, I loved all these reminders. Everybody, thank you for tuning into this episode. Louis, appreciate you, man, so much. And yeah, excited to hang out, man. Let's do it, man. Appreciate you. Thanks. Take it easy, guys. Peace.

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There's nothing quite as valuable as finding peace inherent, I guess, outside of any circumstance when you're broke. Like I look back at times when I was splitting an $800 apartment with four people and had, you know, and it was very struggling, didn't feel on purpose or like I had a direction really fully, wasn't living as fulfilled as I knew I could. And

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There's that saying, don't let a crisis go to waste. Those are valuable moments when you're not sure, you don't have the prosperity, but you still choose to feel prosperous. And there is that Buddhist context that I really like. He said that there's four types of people. There's people that are going from darkness to darkness. We're familiar with those people.

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There's people that are going from darkness to brightness, those that are choosing, irrespective of the external circumstances, to move in the direction of generosity, these qualities of being abundant instead of scarce. There's people that are going from brightness to darkness, where you might have, through whatever past actions, karmas, whatever belief you want to have, a good life.

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But you're continuing to make decisions that are bringing you towards ignorance. And there's people that are going from brightness to brightness. And of course, we all want to be in that camp. But at times, you know, we're a little bit more lost. It's a little bit more hazy and more foggy. And cultivating that mindset of generosity is how we move towards brightness.

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And I look at the people that are truly successful in life, not just from a monetary standpoint, but from an internal riches standpoint. And they're very generous people, generous with their time, generous with their energy. And yeah, I think that that's something I really want to focus on, cultivating that generous mindset and abundant mindset, as opposed to a fear-based, scarce mindset.

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You mentioned how it can be and often is harder to be generous when you feel broke, you don't feel as fulfilled. And there's almost great use in that, like that when the resistance is harder, the opportunity for growth and embodying those qualities are that much more possible.

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So it's a really good opportunity when you're in those moments because as you're speaking to this, I'm really reminded of how connected generosity is with reciprocity. Huge. And they're like inextricably connected. And we have this perception that when you give, there's a giver, there's a receiver. But really, it's one flow. It's one cycle. And when you give, you both are receiving.

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And the person who's receiving is receiving. And anyone who witnesses that act of generosity is also receiving. It is a multiplication of that effect.

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When you have lack, how do we rewire our brain to create abundance when you have nothing and you don't know how to earn more money? The first thing I think you need to be aware of is that your beliefs dictate your behaviors.

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So if you believe that money is bad or people who make a lot of money are bad and take advantage of others, and therefore me having lack right now means I'm a good person and I don't want to become a bad person. then that belief is going to dictate your behaviors and you're going to stay in lack.

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You're going to stay in scarcity and you're going to see opportunities that only give you just enough as opposed to opportunities that could create incredible wealth for yourself financially, but also an emotional wealth that you've never had before. So that's one of the things you want to understand is first that your beliefs dictate your behaviors.

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Because your belief got you to a place of, I am impacting hundreds of millions of people from these videos that I created with my talents. Yes. But I don't know how to make money with them. And I don't know if I actually should, because then I could be bad and wrong, or people could perceive me as I did something bad to make this money. And I'm a spiritual person. I'm a monk.

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I've done all these things. I don't want to have that life. But I want to make an impact, and I don't want to be poor. So I think a lot of people are struggling with that mindset.

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The biggest shift that will create abundance in your life is a mindset habit in unlocking wealth for yourself. And one of the big lies or one of the big blocks that holds people back from financial opportunity is that I cannot be generous with my time, my wisdom, my knowledge, or my secrets to others, because if I am, they will take it and run with it, and I will be left with nothing.

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So therefore, I'm going to hoard my energy, I'm going to hoard my time, my knowledge, and only keep it to me so that others don't have good ideas or have my help.

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And from all the different billionaires and millionaires and financial leaders in the world that I've interviewed, I know you've interviewed a lot of them, there is a question I would always ask individuals who've made incredible amounts of money. And that keeps helping them create more wealth year after year. And they all say the same thing.

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Those who have had a sustainably good heart in the process is that you have to have a generous mindset. So the mindset habit is the first thing that you have to think about when creating abundance with your money, but also feeling abundant internally. And it's coming with generosity.

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So if you feel like you're stuck right now, if you feel like you have nothing, this was what you were at eight years ago when I met you. This was where I was at 15 years ago when I was on my sister's couch. I had no money. I was in student loan debt, was sleeping on her couch. I didn't think I had any skills. I didn't have a college degree yet.

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I was like, how am I going to make money if I don't know how to make money and I don't have any talent or skill and I'm in debt? It didn't understand it. It felt impossible. And the thing that I shifted when I started meeting money mentors is I needed to learn the first habit, which is the mindset habit, which is a habit of generosity and gratitude. So what did that look like then?

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What was the practical step? What it looks like was, how do I meet money people, people that have money, people who have success, people who can teach me knowledge? I needed to come with a sense of energy, of curiosity, of possibilities, and of joy. I literally wrote a list down of all these different things that I thought were my talents. I go, how can I make money? I don't have any skills.

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irrelevant of whether you have money or not. When you are poor, when you're broke, when you're struggling financially, it feels really hard to feel abundant and rich. But in order to get out of it, it's not feeling worse about it. It's starting to feel better about me, better about my values, my character, my kindness, my generosity, and seeing how can I add value to others?

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I played football, and now I'm injured. What can I do for people? But I was like, well, I'm really curious. Maybe I can just ask people questions. And never did I think in a million years that I could have a 12-year-old podcast just asking questions and make millions of dollars a year. I never thought that was possible. I was in my early 20s. And I was like, you know what?

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I've got a lot of energy. I've got a lot of passion. So let me bring passion and energy to other people and excitement. And that energy was infectious. And there's a currency that's tied to that energy of passion, joy, excitement, curiosity. That currency may not look like money.

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But for those who are older, who have no more passion, they're burnt out, they're exhausted, it is the highest form of currency. They want that. They crave that energy. They've burnt themselves out for decades. They want to feel young again. They want to feel curious again. They want to feel excited again. And when you come to someone with that energy, you are bringing a different mindset.

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So the mindset of curiosity, joy, passion, pride, presence, like just connecting with someone and asking them a question, is such a valuable currency. So we have to look into these untapped skills, talents, currencies inside of us that are hidden to others, but inside of us, they can create magic.

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That's one of them. Another one is just being generous with your time, with your resources, with your ideas, and helping others succeed.

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Exactly. I didn't know who you were until I saw, hey, I can get you on a billboard on Times Square. I go, that's value to me right now.

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How can I get into a richness inside of me to serve and take care of me at the same time?

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And most people think when I have nothing, I need to take from someone else. Yes. I don't have anything, so I can't give anything if I don't have it. So I need someone to give me money right now because I'm broke, I'm poor, I'm stuck, I'm stressed, I'm anxious. I can't think out of myself. And this first habit is really gratitude and generosity is the gateway to abundance.

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And it may not mean you're going to make money right away. You didn't make money by having me on the show right away. But we became friends. I helped you. You helped me. Over time, we helped each other create more abundance together, not only financially, which we've done together, but a type of richness that isn't about money.

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And this book, again, it's a money book, but it's really like it doesn't matter how much money you have if you don't feel like you have a rich life inside of you.

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It does not matter how much is in your bank account, how big your net worth is, if you don't feel like you have an abundant life, if you're stressed, if you're overwhelmed, if you're anxious, if you're constantly in drama. That is not abundance. A high net worth does not mean you are free.

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And the goal is for us to feel free every moment of our lives as often as possible and allow money to be a tool to create incredible opportunities, memories, moments, where you can be generous with it, with the people you care about, the causes you care about, the institutions you care about to serve more people and feel good about doing it, not feel bad about doing it.

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And that's part of this process. Most people, when they lack money, they want to take from others. They want someone to help them. And you need to flip it on its head and say, how can I help others? Even when I have nothing, that is the time to be more generous in more gratitude and say, thank you for this opportunity. Even if you have to just lie to yourself for a moment and say, I'm stuck.

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I'm on my sister's couch. I have no money. I'm four months. In four months, I'm going to be out of an apartment, and I don't know where the money's coming. Just say, thank you, God. Thank you, universe, for this opportunity to learn, this opportunity to grow. Because I'll never be here again. I don't know if you've had Ken Honda on, but he wrote- I know, Happy Money. Happy Money.

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But I haven't had him on. Dude, he's so cool. I love this approach to this. And he's talking similar style about how do you just live a rich life? Irrelevant of whether you have money or not. And again, this is what I want people to get to. When you are poor, when you're broke, when you're struggling financially, it feels really hard to feel abundant and rich.

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And we want to start shifting our thoughts or emotions and our energy on- OK, I know I'm in this financial situation. It doesn't feel good. But in order to get out of it, it's not feeling worse about it. It's starting to feel better about me, better about my values, my character, my kindness, my generosity, and seeing how can I add value to others.

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And that's the first thing we need to be thinking about. How can I get into a richness inside of me to serve others? and take care of me at the same time. And one of the practices or these social experiments or exercises similar to you that Ken has is that whenever money comes to him, whether it's a check, whether it's a Venmo payment, whatever it might be, he just says thank you to that money.

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He looks at that number. If it's a penny, if it's a million dollars, if it's your normal check you get coming in the mail every two weeks, he looks at it and says thank you and literally opens his heart and loves that money that comes to him. He says, thank you. Where do you want to go? Do you want to go to my bank account? Do you want to go to my savings? Do you want to go to investments?

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Do you want to go towards paying off debt? Do you want me to give you away? And it might be a weird kind of like exercise, but I love this approach to just being mindful of money when it comes. Say thank you. And then when you pay bills, when you pay off debt, say thank you as well. Thank you for allowing me to pay off this debt.

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Thank you for paying my cell phone bill so I can call my friends and family that I love. Thank you for the ability to live a richer life. And when we start to approach money in that way, It doesn't mean money's going to fall from the sky and come to us abundantly. But we're going to start to feel more rich and abundant internally, which that energy is what will attract more opportunities.

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Those opportunities could lead to millions. This hostess that came to you, she brought that thankful energy, that present energy, that loving, joyful, curious energy, and it created an abundance of opportunities and connection.

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She didn't have any other, she didn't have, it didn't matter about her college degree. We didn't even know her resume. We hadn't even looked at it. It doesn't matter what skill, other skills you have. If you have energy, passion, and a curiosity to care about someone, you can go so far in that potential relationships.

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Speaking about hostess or waiters or waitresses, there were studies that psychologists did around tipping and waiters. And I don't know the exact statistic. I know it was over a certain amount, but I don't know the exact percentage. But there are three things that you can do as a waiter to make more money.

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Getting higher tips based on psychology and these studies. One is just introducing yourself and saying your name. My name is Lewis Howes. What's your name? Thanks for being here today. Saying your name creates a deeper connection.

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Making a recommendation of something. You said she was making recommendations. Making a recommendation, hey, I really recommend this if you're into this, or these are the best two options I would recommend. gets you a higher chance of getting a better tip. And complimenting the person on their food choice, I'll have the burger or the vegan burger, that's a great choice.

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Those three things will increase your ability to earn more tips. And it's not like you had some other skill. You just created connection with someone, and you were trying to bring that energy to them. And money is an energy. And how we think and how we feel will dictate the energy we have towards it. And also, you create money through your energy.

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And so she had a certain energy with you, and you're like, man, this is amazing. You're recommending it to millions of people about this person that you just met for the first time. It's like you could create so many opportunities for not only financial abundance, but spiritual abundance by bringing generosity, curiosity, energy, joy, and love to someone's life. And it doesn't have to take hours.

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This was five minutes of this person's time. She got three job offers over that night. She could have had a different energy and said, OK, here's your table, sit down. And she would have had nothing, but she could have went to Harvard and had all these other skills. And none of that would have mattered without the energy she brought.

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And again, Going back to what we said before, when you have no money, when you're broke, when you feel stressed out, overwhelmed, burnt out, you lost your job, you feel like you need help. And you may need help. And the best way to create abundance is to go from helplessness to helpfulness.

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So instead of saying, I feel helpless, I don't know what to do, you've got to flip it and say, how can I be helpful? How can I help myself, but by also helping someone else? How can I shift out of this negative energy into an energy of abundance, which is so hard to do when you have nothing?

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I remember for a year and a half feeling trapped on my sister's couch with no money, thinking, how am I going to do this? And there just has to be a decision where you say, I'm going to get up and I'm going to get out of this funk, out of this energy, and choose and decide to bring energy to someone else without asking for anything in return. And when you do that, you'll start to build momentum.

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Step one is you need awareness. And again, you probably say this so often and people probably heard this so frequently, but if you don't have awareness on your attachment style towards money and how your nervous system is when you receive money or when money leaves you, when you have to pay your bills or give money away.

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Yeah, and like you said, the seasonal side of things, like when I was just getting started making money, this was in 2008, 2009, 2010, I was using LinkedIn as a platform and a tool to meet CEOs, executives, and business leaders. And I was helping them originally with their LinkedIn profile. And I was just saying, hey, how can I help you optimize your profile?

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I want people to create just a scenario of awareness around how you feel and how you think when you receive money, when you pay money, when you look at your bank account, when you open your purse or your wallet, and just notice, how do I feel? Do I have shallow breathing? Do I feel relaxed? Do I feel anxious? Do I feel scarce? Do I feel abundant?

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I see that it's missing some things here. I'll do it for free. And I did this to build relationships with them. And through that, they just all wanted to help me and give back to me. And then eventually someone said, hey, I'll pay you for this. This is really helpful. Then I was like, oh, I can make money on LinkedIn. It's not what I wanted to do, but I had a skill to do it right then.

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So I did that for a few years. And once I had that foundation, I used that money to launch the School of Greatness as well, because I had a couple of years of runway now. And I didn't want to do that forever, but I did it for the season. I got skills. I made money. And I created a sense of freedom for myself to do what I really wanted to do later.

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Do you agree with that idea? It's an interesting story. I was in New York last week, and I said to myself, and I have a lot of these different exercises and games in the book, to just give people as social experiments. I think it's really powerful to give yourself experiment, because I think when you experiment, you allow yourself to explore possibilities.

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And when you create an experiment for yourself, you allow for the idea of magic to enter your life. So I want you to just, as you're watching or listening, I want you to say, I allow for magic and abundance to manifest in my life. I'm going to create a possibility that this can happen in my life.

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a moment a synchronicity someone might call me out of the blue someone might hand me money randomly i'm going to allow for this moment to happen and this magic to happen so i said to myself i want to follow my own practices right and i went to see our friend mel robbins in boston and i was in new york for a few days and i just said to myself money comes to me abundantly and freely in it i see it everywhere i just said this to myself every morning when i woke up and when i went out of the hotel i said money comes to me abundantly and freely and i see it everywhere

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And I'm a magnet for money. I'm a magnet for money. I just kept saying this energy. I'm a magnet for money. I was just playful, this social experiment. And when I was at Mel's, a penny dropped on the floor. Someone was carrying a box and a penny fell. And I said, oh, look, money comes to me. I see it everywhere. It was a penny.

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And there's a point to this story. And I pick it up and I say, Mel, do you want this? And she goes, no, it's yours. And I go, thank you, I receive. Because when I relax, I receive. And I'm a magnet for money. Even if it was a penny, I could notice it. And I was like, all right, it came to me. See, here's a win. Here's a little win. Let me do this again. The next day, I go to New York City.

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And I'm in the subway. It's freezing right now in New York. It's like 15 degrees. And I'm just saying this to myself in the subway. And as I get off the subway, I go up the stairs. And it's frickin' filthy in the New York subway, right? And the stairs are dirty. And I see a penny heads up. And I thought to myself, this is filthy. This is dirty. It's not valuable. It's not enough money.

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I don't need to pick this up. But I was like, no, I'm doing this experiment. Money comes to me abundantly and freely. I'm a magnet for money. And I'm going to manifest money, right? And so I see it's heads up. I pick it up, put it in my pocket. And I just say, thank you, money, for coming to me. The next day, I put it on my bedside table. I don't think anything of it.

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The next day, I wake up and I look at this penny. And I said, because I'm doing this experiment every day. I'm a magnet for money. Money comes to me abundantly and freely. And I look at it as a reminder, these two pennies. Look, this is a reminder that money came to me. Maybe it's not thousands of dollars or millions of dollars. It's not something that's magically right here.

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But it's a reminder that something is possible. And I flipped over this one penny. Oh, no, I looked at the penny because it was heads up. And I noticed something. I go, oh, that's really interesting. It said 1945 on this penny. That's an 80-year-old penny. And I go, huh, that's unique. I haven't seen a penny that old in a long time. And I flip it over, and I notice something.

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Just step one is have awareness on, how do I feel and how do I think about my money? The money I have, the money that's coming in, and the money that's going out. That's step one. And when you can just have awareness around it, you can start to say, is my relationship the one that I want to be having? Do I feel really secure around money? If not, OK, what's something I can think about?

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And I get chills thinking about it. I notice it's a wheat penny. I don't know if you know what a wheat penny is. No, I don't. So a wheat penny looks different than a normal penny. It's got like two stalks of wheat on the outside of the penny. It's this old penny. And I look it up and I Google 1945 wheat penny value. And one just sold. I kid you not. I get chills thinking about it.

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No way. Online. One sold for $4,000. Now, it's all based on the condition and all these different things. Like, who knows? Maybe it's worth $20. Maybe it's worth $5,000. Maybe it's worth $100. But the idea is that there was more value inside of that penny than what met the eye originally. Yeah. And the experiment of, let me be... opened up possibilities for money to come to me.

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And what I thought was two pennies might be $2,000. And all I had to do was be willing to look for it, be willing to pick it up and say, I receive, thank you. If I didn't look for it, if I didn't set that intention, if I didn't see the possibilities in front of me, I may not have received that penny that could be worth thousands. And it's the same thing in life.

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We may not see the opportunity in front of us right now. We may not reach out to the people we already know and say, hey, this is what I'm looking to create in my life. I have these skills. I have these talents. Is there anything that you need right now that I can be of service for you with?

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And that's, for that first year, how you created multiple six figures in that first year when you had nothing was reaching out to hundreds of people. That was you either setting the intention, seeing that there might be possibilities, and doing the work to manifest hundreds of thousands that first six months.

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So by doing that effort, setting the intention by saying, I'm open to possibilities, I'm open to receiving opportunities that come to me, but I have to be willing to look for them. I have to be willing to ask for them. I have to be willing to put myself out there. and receive and say, yes, thank you. I will do this work. And that's what I think people need to be thinking about.

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Can you manifest millions? Yes. If you're willing to set a clear intention, if you're willing to reach out and say, here's what I'm willing to offer and add value in, I want to help you achieve these goals, you're creating more potential to manifest money.

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First, let me think about my money story, the story of my life around money. We grow up as kids, and we watch our parents in their relationship. We tend to develop the relationship style of our parents unless we learn how to heal as a teenager and have some type of breakthrough. We're creating some type of attachment style based on what we see with our parents.

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Imagine you're, you know, Roddy for the next month, you never say thank you. You never look her in the eyes. You never speak to her. You avoid her constantly. Imagine your relationship's going to suffer. I'm sure you guys will figure it out, but imagine that's a lifetime of a relationship. It cannot survive.

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And here's a great question that I want everyone to ask themselves and another exercise that I want everyone to think about right now, whether you're watching or listening. I want you to comment on the YouTube below what opened up for you during this moment. And I'm going to give you the exercise, Jay. So imagine this door opens. And it's a person. And this person is money. It's the idea of money.

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It's a person that walks in, right? Is money. And could you, as an example for people to imagine this as well, what does that person look like when they come in? What would you do? What would you say or not say? Could you share kind of what that would be like for you? Money, a person walks in, they are money. They are the representation of your relationship with money.

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That's beautiful. And I've been asking a lot of people this. And so I love to hear people's responses. And be honest in the YouTube comments below of your relationship with money. I asked someone close to me, someone younger, probably in their late 20s, I asked them, if money walked in and you were at a party, how would you respond? And they said, I would run to the bar.

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I would not make eye contact. I would gossip behind their back to other people there about money. I would look down at them, but then I would use them and abuse them because I would really need money. And I would ghost them afterwards. And I go, wow. And they were like, yeah, I know. It's really bad. But they were being honest. So I want people to be honest.

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Like, what is your relationship with money? And just imagine if you were money and someone treated you that way, if they wouldn't look at you, they would avoid you, they speak poorly behind your back, they would use you and abuse you when they wanted you, and then they'd ghost you when they didn't want to talk to you.

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Do you think money would want to keep showing up in your life if they were a person?

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If they were a person, would they want to be in your life? Would they feel, this isn't a good relationship for me? And your show is all about helping people get healed, healthy, and whole. And if you want to create a richer, more abundant life, you have to create a healthy relationship with money in your life. And look at it as if this was a love of my life.

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But think about all the conversations your parents had around money. And if your parents didn't have a secure relationship, if they fought, did they fight about money? Were you involved in the conversation about how expensive things were, about your school or sports or programs that they had to pay for they couldn't afford? Did they argue? Did they have challenges? Did they get divorced?

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Not in a worshiping, like I worship it no matter what, but more of like, this is a person that I love, and I want to treat them with care. I want to be a great host. How can I show up? And it doesn't mean it's always going to be perfect, but how can I show up and be generous, be kind, be patient, listen, be aware, and be of service to it?

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I'm not saying you haven't had a beautiful, abundant, peaceful life as well with money, but I would bet to say that you've also experienced stress and overwhelm with money more than having no money. And a lot of people get blocked because they know that like, oh, more money, more problems is another like money lie, right? Or money like wound that people might have.

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Like, I don't want to make more money because I see people who do have money, they're constantly stressed. They're not generous with it. They're stingy. They don't even tip at all. They're even more stingy with it. And they have it. So what's the point of having it if they're not generous? I don't want to be like that.

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And there can be money traps or money wounds when you have money if you haven't learned how to heal that relationship. And so it's learning how to heal the relationship so that when you grow your net worth, you also increase your self-worth

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inside and feel peaceful about it you expand your nervous system your container to receive abundantly so it's not scary it's not stressful you can receive more and you can give more because you know that the more you relax the more you receive and when you give it's going to come back in some way i struggled with that my first six seven eight years of making money i hoarded money because i was afraid to go broke again

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And it limited me in certain ways. And it made me feel stressful. And it made me feel like people were trying to take advantage of me and take my money. It doesn't feel rich having money and living in scarcity still.

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money is one of the biggest reasons people get divorced it's one of the biggest arguments in marriage as well so just notice is my nervous system is my body is my energy or my thoughts stressed out around money do i feel scarce or do i feel abundant that's kind of step one and then step two is understanding your money story because when you can reflect on your money story you can see what your money personality style is today

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You know, my dad was a lot like that, too. He had strangers knocking on the door that somehow convinced him to stay with us for, like, three months in the summer. And he just opened his doors and said, yes. Like, okay. And so... he was just like, like your parents, like, okay, you need a place to stay for a week, a month, two months. Cool. We'll figure it out. We'll feed you. We'll do this.

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As long as we feel like you're doing something good and we're trying to support you. And I think it's, it don't have to give money to feel rich.

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You can be very generous with your time, with your, resources in other ways with your food. It's like you can give in other ways and create a richness of life. And that's the key is to feel rich and abundant and free. And if you feel that when you start making money, you're going to continue to feel free.

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The biggest trap is when you feel scarce and you start making money and you still feel trapped. You still don't feel free. That is an even greater prison in my mind that you're living in scarcity when you have money.

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Well, I think when you can live beneath your means and feel abundant, you've won. So when you live beneath your means and you don't need extra stuff, you've won. I just watched The Count of Monte Cristo the other night. It's an incredible movie of a guy who has nothing, who was born...

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by you know back in the i don't know 1700s or something it's a period piece he was born of like a clerk a guy who makes no money and his friend was born of like some general who had a lot of money or something and this poor kid that grew up friends didn't have anything but he had the world. He had no money, no possessions, but he just approached life.

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It was like, man, but here's a piece of string. Here's a rock that I can play with. Like I can just imagine the beauty of the world. And he appreciated everything, even though he had no money. And I think in some ways, it's so hard to look at that when we see Instagram and TikTok where everyone has things. That's the hard part, yeah.

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And for many years, and we can talk about both of us thinking about our past, for many years, I didn't understand money growing up. We didn't have a lot growing up. We weren't completely poor, but I wasn't as well off as the other kids in my class. So I always felt a little bit beneath everyone else. And so my belief system was around that. I'm just a little bit under everyone else.

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When you see everyone else having fun with money and going on that trip with their girlfriends or buying that expensive car to show off to their guy friends or getting the nice watches or having the cool shoes and you thinking, oh, if I could really have money, then I could have these things that would make me feel cool or feel better.

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But if we can approach life and just be like, man, life is so good with what I have, that is true wealth. That is true abundance and happiness. And it doesn't mean you shouldn't strive to create more if you want more. If you want to have nice shoes or a nice watch, cool. You've got to learn how to make money. And you want to learn how to make money easy, not make money hard.

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And that is a process in developing these skills, these talents within you, and seeing how you can monetize those skills. And I'm not saying don't splurge on certain things if you want to, but you have to understand the consequences.

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If you're going to splurge on something to have fun with friends or go on trips and spend this money that you maybe don't have, just know there might be a consequence to that later. If you have to use a credit card, you have to pay that debt with interest later. So just know there's a cost to splurging or spending when you don't have it.

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I'm a big fan of saving and investing so that you can have freedom in the future and feel rich continually and not needing to buy things to feel richer.

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I've got money wounds and it's because I wanted to make easy money in my past, not make money easy. And I don't know anyone that doesn't want to make easy money. Like our ego wants it to come to us now. And when we find the quick hack or the quick investment, that's got a 10 X in two months. Sure. There's always outliers that figure out a way to do that.

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But every time I've tried to do that, I've lost my money and it's been painful. And I'm like, okay, I think I've learned that lesson, but there's this new, like quick, easy money opportunity. And every time I do it again, I'm like, what was I thinking? Yeah. You see that others act like there's a way to do it so easy.

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If you just invest in crypto, if you just invest in this, if you just do this thing, you're going to make quick and easy money. I don't know anyone who's made hundreds of millions, millions, or billions who's lived that way. They might have invested and gone all in on one business and created generational wealth.

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Or maybe they went all in on investing in one main stock that ended up 10 or 20 X-ing over time. But going the quick, make easy money way doesn't usually work. And it's painful lessons you have to live afterwards. So I don't know. Have you ever made quick, easy money?

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Everyone else is doing a little bit better than us. Sure, we have a home, and I'm going to school. But everyone's got rollerblades. I'm in sneakers. People have Nintendo. I don't have one. I'm reading a book. Whatever it is, it was like I was a little bit beneath. And that started to shape my story and my personality style. So I felt very insecure around money.

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I didn't know. That also wouldn't have been quick. It would have taken 10 years. It would have taken 10, 15 years. That's the thing. It's like we could always look back and say, oh, our friend told us to invest in this thing 10 years ago. And if I imagine if I did it 10 years, yeah, just like any stock. If you invest in it and wait 10 years, It should go up if the company continues to do well.

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You actually have made easy money after putting in a decade plus of work, a decade of developing skills, of monetizing your skills, and following the seven habits we talk about in this book, which is, yeah, you can make easy money now. You can get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to speak for 60 minutes because you've added so much value in the world for the past decade plus.

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and even a decade before that of spiritual practice, before you even learned how to make money. So two decades of how do I develop skills within me to serve people, whether it be one-on-one, one to 10, one to 10,000, how do I develop those skills to serve and give generously? You have followed this mindset perfectly, which is a mindset of generosity and gratitude.

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And that's all you did for essentially the last two decades. How can I learn how to become a better human? How can I give generously? And how can I be appreciative and grateful for the life that I have? And you had no money for almost four years as a monk. But I would bet that you lived a beautifully rich life. You didn't need the money to feel rich. You felt provided for. You had nature.

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You had community. You were learning. You got to be on purpose. You got to serve. And what a beautiful gift to receive. And you had no money in your bank account, but you were probably one of the richest people that you knew. And that is beautiful. Yeah. That is abundant.

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If I have no money right now, how can I get to a place where you were at, where I had the richest, most abundant life? Because I was working on me. I was a giver. I was generous with my time and my energy and my resources, whatever I had.

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And then how can I start to earn more money, make money easy by feeling effortless internally, expanding my nervous system so that it can receive more and feel safe? That is a rich, abundant life.

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And me and you both know people who have hundreds of million dollars that they've exited companies and they're not happy. It doesn't mean having more money equals happiness. You still have to learn how to heal you and have a healthy relationship with yourself and money, even when you have it.

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And when I got it, I got really excited, but I didn't know what to do with it. So I was also afraid, I was insecure, and I was just unsure of it. And it really started to shape my personality style. Now, when I was in my teen years, my dad started to make more money and started to teach me a little bit. But I was still just, I want to be a teenager. I don't want to think about this stuff.

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I'm glad you said this because a week ago, someone literally asked me if I have $1,000 right now to invest, where should I invest it? And everyone says, put it in crypto, put it in real estate funds, put it in all these things. Don't listen to any of that. When I had no money, there was two things that I needed to create more of a currency within me. And that was courage and confidence.

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I lacked the courage to develop certain skills. When I had courage to go all in on learning public speaking or learning how to write, I didn't know those skills. I actually lacked those skills, and I was afraid to be a failure at those things by trying them.

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But by having the courage to invest my time and energy in a public speaking class, in a writing coach, I didn't have the skills, but I developed the courage. That courage created the actions to create confidence. That confidence created a currency within me of belief. That belief dictated my behaviors to start charging more, to go out there and ask for more, to put myself out there in bigger ways.

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And so if you have $1,000 or $5,000 right now and you want to figure out where to invest it, invest it in courage to learn new skills that will give you confidence. That will be an incredible currency that you'll have forever.

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It seems confusing. I just want to have fun. In my 20s, when I got done playing football, I went to go pursue football, got injured. I was on my sister's couch for a year and a half, and I had no money. And I just felt like, how am I going to make this work? How am I going to make money? I don't know what my skills are. I don't know what my talents are.

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I tell a story in the book about, I used to live in an apartment building here in LA. It was really sad. There's a lot of wealthy people in this building that I lived in. A lot of celebrities and-

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billionaires, I was the poorest person there, which is another lesson, which is to put yourself in rooms where you can mastermind with people and be around proximity of people who have more so you can learn from them. But I was on a trip and I came back from a trip driving back into the valet of my building. And there was a tent in the valet, like in the driveway.

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And I kind of jokingly said to the valet attendant as I pulled into the building, I said, someone didn't jump, did they? Kind of like jokingly. And the guy looked at me with a serious face like, yeah, it just happened like 30 minutes ago. And I was like, this can't be real. It was like, what? There's billionaires in here. There's millionaires in here. There's celebrities in here.

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I was like, why would anyone in this building take their own life? And it was kind of like just this shock to me because I learned later who this person was. Someone did jump off the building right before I came back. And he was worth hundreds of millions of dollars, net worth. We just Googled his name. And I was just thinking, why would someone worth so much money take their life?

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And I don't want to assume what really happened, but it doesn't mean having all the money in the world is going to solve all your problems and you're going to feel like you can love and accept yourself, that you have self-worth. So like you said, you may learn how to make a lot of money, but if you haven't learned how to heal your relationship with you,

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then all the money in the world can't save your life and can't make you feel rich, can't make you feel abundant, can't make you have beautiful relationships with friends, family, colleagues. And that's where the real wealth comes in life when you have deep, meaningful relationships.

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And something I want to acknowledge that you do really well is you follow this first habit, the mindset habit, so well, which is how can I be generous with my time, my energy, my love for friends, family, colleagues, your community? This community feels it. Everyone listening and watching right now feel your generosity, your giving hearts, and your gratitude for them, whether it be individually or

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Collectively, they feel it. And most people, they want to make more money, but they don't have that generosity, that grateful spirit. And they want the quick fix. They want to make easy money quick, not make money easy. And the billionaires that I know you know and the millionaires that we know we've interviewed, and I'll ask them this question.

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What do you think the key to creating more financial abundance year after year is for you? Every billionaire or mega millionaire will say giving more. I make more when I give more that year.

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This is in 2008 when the economy was crashing. So it kind of felt like it is right now with inflation going up so much right now and people worried about money in the future. I didn't understand. And I needed to find money mentors to start teaching me how to learn about how I can receive money and spend it in a more efficient way. And that was kind of the journey of me starting to figure this out.

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whether it be giving more to charities, whether it be giving to people in my life, whether it be giving back to my community, giving back to my employees, my business, finding ways to give more and almost give where it feels a little uncomfortable. Like, oh, that was a big check I just wrote. Oh man, I care about this cause, this charity.

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I feel safe giving this amount, but what really would make it uncomfortable? Or I go to church every week and I typically give this, but what would make me feel a little uncomfortable? Most of these people say the more they give, when it's the most uncomfortable, somehow they just keep earning more. And I'm not saying you should give all your money away and you're going to earn more back.

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But having that mindset of generosity, and you do this very well, where you give to your community. Whenever there's some type of breakdown in the world, you're one of the first people to say, how can we give? How can we rally the troops? You give first. You rally the troops. Say, let's give back. The fires happened. Stuff happened in India a couple years ago. Stuff's always happening.

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And you say, we're going to give. I don't know if that seems something conscious you think about. Like, oh, by giving more every year, it helps me make more. But also, I feel richer. And when you do that with everyone in your life, whether you're the hostess and you give curiosity, love, passion, fun, playfulness, you're giving something in that moment.

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If you can write a check for something that is a cause and you give, it's because you can and you do it generously it's just going to make you richer inside. And you're creating an energy of abundance to attract more.

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But if we don't have the tools or the money knowledge, then we're always going to be stuck in our money story as our money personality style. And so it's getting to understand awareness. How does it feel when I receive money and I spend money? What is the history of the story around money for me? Did my parents fight? Did I feel anxious around money?

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I used to steal a lot when I was a kid, so I had some wounds around money. I had people steal from me as well. So I just had all these different wounds that I had to address and get clear on. And I had to learn how to start healing those money wounds. And again, I know this is the place to come to create more wholeness, to be healthier in your life, and to become more healed.

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And that's what I want for people is to start to reflect on their money story. Write down some of these things so you have awareness, first off, on why you think and feel the way you do around money. Then you can start to see how your personality style towards money now is either helping you create more abundance or keeping you in scarcity and lack.

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And it's never. I'm never making enough. And also, I've got $100,000 in student loan debt. I have this other credit card because I wanted to go on a trip, or I had a medical expense that was unexpected that came up. So many people are struggling to be figuring out how to get out of debt.

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They have this weight that's carrying them back, but they still want to feel like they're free to live a life of their dreams. They want to be able to go on a trip with a friend a few times a year. They want to go to those expensive concerts. They want to have fun still. But they're unfortunately in a lot of debt. So there's something that's pulling them back as they're trying to go forward.

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And they feel like there's no way to break free. They think about the rising costs of eggs, the inflation, how everything is just constant. You can't afford a home anymore. All these things seem impossible to break through. But people want to feel free, but they don't feel emotionally free because of all the baggage they have in their life.

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And that's what I want people to start to feel is how can you feel emotionally free so that your money can come to you effortlessly? And when it leaves you, it's not a bad thing. And the more we relax, the more we can receive. And so if I'm tight and I'm always anxious or I'm not willing to look at my bank account because I'm afraid of what's in there,

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How are we able to receive more and spend more freely? And I think for many years, I learned how to make money but I didn't learn how to spend money. And so I just hoarded it because I was afraid to go back being broke on my sister's couch. I didn't wanna go be broke again. So I just stashed it away into my bank account and just like, okay, I'm gonna just wait for it to grow so I feel safe.

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But that was almost like a prison in a sense, emotionally, because I didn't feel free to spend it. I was still sleeping on friends' couches, I had a million dollars in the bank, and I was sleeping on friends' couches. I was sitting in the middle seat, the cheapest seat I could on buses or on planes. And I'd always be like, man, I'm so uncomfortable the next day. My back hurts.

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I'm not feeling free because I was afraid. I was anxious to lose money. And that is not emotional freedom. That is not healing. And I remember thinking to myself, God, I'm starting to make money. It was like years into my business. I was like, I'm financially free, but I'm still trapped. What is holding me back?

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And I realized a lot of it was my money story and my money personality style that I needed to start working on. And I don't know if it's the thing that you ever like, I've arrived and I'm perfect. And now I'm like this Zen master at money. It's a constant back to awareness. It's a constant practice of awareness and breaking through those limitations. Yeah.

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So you didn't want to be bad. You don't want to have a lot of money and associate, I have a lot of money and now I'm bad. Correct. I'm bad and wrong and I'm hurting others in order to help myself. Correct.

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Well, it's so powerful that you said that. And I remember this vividly because I met you on Halloween 2017, right? Eight years ago, yeah. And I said, like, cancel the day. Let's just hang out all day.

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I had a book that came out that day on Halloween, which is called The Mask of Masculinity. Anyways, how do we rewire our brain around money to create more abundance?

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There are two big things happening at one time that I've never done before. I'm going on a book tour for my new book, Make Money Easy, and I'm doing a podcast tour at the same time. It is going to be big and I'm going to seven cities in 10 days. Get your friends, get your family, bring everyone you know to these cities. I'm coming to Austin, Texas, New York, Boston. We're going to Nashville.

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It's going to be like a sprint within 10 days for me bopping around city to city. And make sure you go check out lewishouse.com slash tour right now to see if I'm coming to one of your cities or fly into one of the cities that I'm coming to and get your tickets right now because we're going to do something really powerful. I've got a book coming out.

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And we're going to be talking about the book Make Money Easy, which is all about your path to peace, freedom, and financial abundance. So if you've been struggling with your financial abundance in your life or if you feel like you're blocked, you haven't been on a breakthrough financially, this is all about how to unlock the energy within you to attract more wealth to you. And from...

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People have an abundance in general. People have an abundance of food options. They have an abundance of shelter in general. They have an abundance of opportunities for success or jobs or careers or jobs. Choices, right? You have options in general.

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No, but the government has funding for food stamps and government housing.

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Because what's the obesity levels today versus 30 to 50 years ago?

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12 years of interviews with some of the biggest billionaires, influencers in the money and financial space, but also healers. This is a different type of a book because it's about helping you heal your relationship to money so that you can attract it as opposed to having to work hard to go make it. I'm very excited because in every city, we're going to be having a massive surprise guest as well.

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That makes me sad. When I see kids like that, it makes me sad. Because it's so hard to reverse it. It's so hard. I know how hard it is to lose weight. It's so hard. But if you're starting young and you're already gaining all that weight, I just feel like it's challenging. Unless maybe when you're like 16, you hit puberty and it's like maybe metabolism like magically works better.

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But if you keep consuming the same way, without being conscious of how is this gonna impact my life? How's it gonna impact my overall health of my brain, my heart, my muscles, my everything? It's so hard to reverse that. And for people that are, from my experience or my witnessing it, it's hard for people once they are overweight to like, first off, lose it, because it might take years.

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It might take years depending on how much you've gained. That is a daunting task for someone who's already not feeling good. They might be feeling shame or guilt or depression already because of their weight or their body image, right? It is daunting to try to take it on for most people and therefore they don't take it on.

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They try and then they fall back and then they go back to old patterns of consuming things that keep them stuck. And it's the cycle, it's the loop, it's so hard. And that's why I get sad when I see it with kids. And I can imagine it's got to be tough to be a parent. I'm not a parent. So I can imagine it's tough when your kids are screaming and they want ice cream every day or whatever it is.

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I can imagine it's got to be really challenging.

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Yeah, and you're tired and you've worked all day and you don't have the energy to be patient. I get it. It's got to be challenging.

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For moms or parents, moms and dads watching right now, parents watching right now, as someone who has studied this for three decades, what is the link between nutrition and mental health?

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So it's going to be me speaking, but also we're going to be doing a live podcast tour during this with some of the biggest names in those cities. It is going to be a fun evening of greatness and a celebration during the launch of my book, live podcast, talking about creating abundance in our lives. And if you have been to the summit of greatness, or if you haven't been, The community is on fire.

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And what is the link? And then what is the research and science saying about the link between mental health and nutrition?

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What is the... percentage or number of like when someone reaches obesity level, what is the likelihood that they'll also have a mental health disorder or condition? Is there like you're 20% more likely, you're 80% more likely to have some type of mental health challenge?

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It's electric. It is so much joy and passion and so many innovative thinkers and creative entrepreneurs and artists that come to the summit of greatness. So I believe it's going to feel like the same energy of community that will be there at the book tour as well. So make sure to go to lewishouse.com slash tour right now, or you can click the link at the top of the description of the podcast.

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Because a lot of people say, well, mental health, illness is like genetic, right? It's like a genetic thing or it was in my family or my grandfather or something, but is that true or is it more, well, if they were obese and you also were obese as a child, it's just kind of linked because that was your environment and that was the habits that your parents did and so you took on those habits.

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Like is it truly genetic or is it more an environmental pass down?

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And if you have a weaker genetic metabolic health symptoms or conditions, Are you able to reverse that and improve that, even if it was linked in your genes from your family?

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Is that a belief, or is there science or research backing the belief?

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Yes. Not a cycle of chemical changing or blocking or disrupting.

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Episode where you're listening right now on Apple or Spotify to get that as well. I hope to see you at one of these cities coming up here very soon. And also today we have a big guest again, Dr. Chris Palmer. He's going to share shocking statistics about the rise in mental health disorders from anxiety and depression to ADHD and bipolar disorder today.

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It kind of gives them an out, right? It's like, oh, it's not my fault. And there's nothing I can do about it.

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And you're going to be on medication for the rest of your life.

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You know, it's interesting, Chris. I'm reflecting on my childhood, and I think there's one thing that saved my life because I had extreme learning disability. I was never diagnosed or anything like that, but I was in the bottom of my class. I had to cheat my way through on homeworks and tests just to pass class because it was so challenging for me to

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hear something and retain the information, comprehend it. No matter how much I read a book, the page, I couldn't remember what was on the page. It was just challenging. Learning from sitting down and eight hours a day in a desk being told complicated things and trying to remember them, it was daunting every day. I couldn't wait to be done with school. So my whole childhood,

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all the way through high school and college, I did not enjoy sitting in a classroom and being taught in that manner. I love to learn, but being taught in that manner didn't work for me. I was never diagnosed with anything, but I know I had dyslexia or something because I still struggle today reading. And I would just wait for the clock to end every day. And

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and makes a compelling case for why integrating physical and mental health treatment could be the key to helping millions recover. He's got to share so many powerful insights today. I hope you get out your pen and paper or take notes in your phone app. Make sure to share this with one friend that you want to see continue to improve in their life.

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eat bad food during lunch, during dinner. And my parents didn't know, we didn't really know about nutrition back in the late 80s, early 90s like we do now, more of it, right? So I just got what I got. I ate what I ate, I got what I got. And there was one thing that saved my life, I think. And that was, playing a lot on the playground and playing sports a lot.

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Because I was moving my body so much after class, outdoors, running, sprinting, jumping, playing, I think that saved my life. Because otherwise, if I didn't have that, there's no way I'd be able to stay in shape. And there's no way I'd be able to function with my brain because I was already struggling so much from consuming the food and having kind of a learning disability, I guess.

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It was just daunting every day in class. And I don't think I would have made it if I didn't have the ability to play and be active as well. I think that mitigated a lot of the bad foods and candy and chips and 12 Dr. Peppers a day I was drinking or whatever I was doing. It was just like, it mitigated some of that where my body was able to process some of that sugar somehow so I could function.

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And without that, I think I'd have been hard. And I think kids nowadays are working out less and less. They're less physically active. and it's gonna really harm them in their adulthood. And you're seeing the link to it already based on your research. So I don't know how people do it today. Like, I feel like I was lucky enough that I was able to work out to just kind of save my life.

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Which makes you want to eat more and just, you know.

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If you know someone who maybe is struggling at times,

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Then we're going to Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Francisco. Make sure to get your tickets right now. Go to lewishouse.com slash tour. Again, bring everyone you know if you're looking to create more financial freedom and abundance to your life and you want to see a massive guest live on the School of Greatness show, Get your tickets. I can't wait to see you there.

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I was just going to ask you this because this is probably the most controversial thing that you'll talk about.

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mentally or their health, you really care about them, you want to have them with the right science, with the right research, with the right expert, giving the wisdom and the tools to support them in improving day after day, then just text the link of this podcast episode right now to a few friends and ask them what their biggest takeaway was from this episode.

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How scary is it for you as a psychiatrist and someone who treats mental health disorders on a daily basis?

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Because you were trained a certain way.

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I'm so grateful you're here on the School of Greatness. Now let's dive in. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Dr. Chris Palmer in the house. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for inviting me.

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Very excited about this because you have incredible credentials, Harvard psychiatrist, trained researcher, and you are helping people overcome one of the biggest challenges in the world right now, which is understanding mental health, anxiety, PTSD, all these different things that are related around mental health. And it seems like the rise of mental health

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what i'm here to say is we can do better yes those people should not have to go through life like that those people should be thriving and we should help them thrive 100 and you mentioned something about kind of body acceptance it seems like when i was growing up in the 90s or whatever it was about the media portrayed extreme skinny in women as beautiful

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And then now it seems like a different extreme. It's like obesity is beautiful and the media portrays that and body acceptance. And I think there's a good intention behind it, but as a psychiatrist, what is the fear that you have when people are being celebrated for obesity versus thinking about a holistic health approach to life?

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Symptoms have exponentially grown in the last decade, and it seems like people are more medicated than ever before, and it's making them sicker, not better. and as a Harvard-trained researcher and psychiatrist who also has prescribed people medication over the years, it seems to me like you've found new ways to help heal mental health disorders. Is that correct? That is not related to medication.

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And you think the main cause of all these things is linked to nutrition and your ability to move your body?

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What would you say then is the root cause of mental disease? And is that the correct way to say it? Is it a mental disease or mental disorder, mental health condition? What is the correct... That...

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Chronic stress. Yes. Chronic stress is linked to trauma, unresolved trauma, pressures, all these different things as well. Yes. So when we can learn to...

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start the healing journey of past traumas, psychologically, emotionally, physical, sexual traumas, if we can start the healing journey of that and do these other things you're talking about from the physical side, from sleep, from minimizing screens, from nutrition, movement, all these different things, it sounds like you'll be able to set yourself up for more mental peace and therefore greater success as a human being. 100%.

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And it doesn't have to affect my self-worth anymore. It doesn't have to affect my ability to feel good about myself. It's okay, yeah.

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that's beautiful i've got a couple final questions for you because i think uh this has been a really powerful starter we'll have to have you back on and talk more extensively but if people want more from dr chris palmer leave a comment below if you're on youtube or or message us and let us know if you want to hear more what question you really want answered but i think this is a great start for people because we could talk for hours right now but i think this is a lot for people to digest and to reflect on because so many people have different things

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that they've been struggling with. There's a couple of final questions I want to ask you. It seems like lately I've heard more people say they've been diagnosed with ADHD. As a psychiatrist, what is the root cause of ADHD and also what is the best way to start healing or reversing ADHD?

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intervention, not using medication, but intervention of, I'm gonna prescribe you eight hours of sleep, whole food, diet, movement, moving your body. And have you seen them be able to reverse ADHD? A hundred percent. Really? So it's a reversible thing.

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But you can be in a community of your friends and family, but if you're eating all the wrong things, it's gonna affect your brain and your mental health as well.

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I think I want to finish with this one final question. Cause I want you to come back on and we can talk more. And I don't want to, I want to, I want to keep it at this for a great starter for people. And then I want us to come back on in the future and do more. This is the question. I don't know why this came up for me during this conversation. I'm not an expert in this. You know,

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I don't know if it's good or bad, but I know a lot of women in the world take the pill. I don't know if you have any research on this or if this is something that psychiatrists study. But how much does the pill affect women's mental health? It definitely affects women's mental health. Does it improve it? Does it hurt it? Because it seems like a lot of women are on the pill.

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And whatever your preference is, it doesn't matter to me if that's what you're doing. But it doesn't seem to be natural to be blocking hormones that are supposed to be within a human being on a monthly cycle. For me, it just doesn't seem natural. Even though it's been conditioned that this is a good thing or a lot of people can take it and it's gonna help prevent a lot of things, I get that.

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But how much is the pill hurting women more than they actually know?

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But there's a price you pay for everything.

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I mean, but people go through breakups all the time.

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It's huge. Of women under 20 who are taking birth control versus women who are not taking birth control. What does birth control do to the brain of a woman when they're on it every single day?

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But the kids spot one area of the body.

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What is the main thing that is driving depression, anxiety, ADHD, bipolar? What is the main root cause of those things?

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I guess the thing I'm taking away from this, I want Again, I'm not an expert in this, and we're not women, so I can't speak into the experience of a woman. But what I'm hearing you say, the research and the data and the science is saying that if a woman is on birth control, it is three times more likely they will have suicide thoughts or suicidal. Is that what you said?

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And so I just want people to be aware of that. And maybe there's a bigger benefit to you. And maybe you can manage that in other ways where it doesn't affect you. But it sounds like there's a massive risk to it. And I just want women to be aware of what they're taking on if they choose that option.

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Yeah, don't take more pills for the symptoms of the pill. You know what I mean? It's like... Well, that's the challenge is that... Stay on the birth control, but here's something else to get in.

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Helps you sleep, helps you deal with anxiety.

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Now the boyfriend dumps her. And now what? Now there's more medication to deal with the trauma and stress.

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And unfortunately then at that point, I've seen lives ruined from that point on because it's- Some people might say, well, if I'm 18 and if I'm not on the pill and if I'm having sex, because that's my choice and I want to, and I want to have connection or pleasure. And if we get pregnant, well, then my life is over because I'm 18 and I haven't lived my life and I have a child now at 18.

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And so someone might say, well, I don't want my life to be over because I have a child too early or what I think is too early based on society's standards.

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Welcome back, my friend, to the School of Greatness. Today, we have a groundbreaking conversation as I sit down with Harvard psychiatrist Dr. Chris Palmer to explore the revolutionary connection between mental health and metabolism. Drawing from his 29 years of clinical experience, Dr. Palmer is going to reveal how our current mental health crisis is deeply linked to

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What's the other solution then to not getting pregnant besides being on the pill?

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Or condom or don't have sex or whatever.

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I just don't think there's any benefit to that.

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Oh man, there's a lot we uncovered here today. There's three things I want people to do. If you're watching on YouTube, I want you to leave a comment of the biggest aha moment or takeaway that you heard or watched during this conversation because there's a lot of information here. But again, you've got three decades of...

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being a clinical practitioner, but also a researcher, a teacher, all these different things. And you study it from the top experts in the world. So you're seeing the data and you're seeing real patients in real time. And you've seen the rise of these things, these mental health disorders or illnesses over the last three decades at astronomical rates.

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And there is a direct link to physical and mental health. There's a direct link to nutrition, the way you move, for the lack of movement, to your mental health as well. So I want people to leave a comment on the YouTube of their biggest takeaway, aha moment, et cetera.

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Second thing I want people to do, if you're listening or watching, I want you to share this with one friend who maybe has been struggling. Maybe they don't have some extreme bipolar disorder or something, but maybe they've just been, mentally going through a hard time, whether it's overwhelm, anxiety, stress, whatever it might be, send them this link and ask them their biggest takeaway as well.

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I think a great way to be a friend to someone is to pass them on good information and good content that could hopefully open their minds to what's possible for their personal growth as well. So send this to one friend as well.

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Third thing I want people to do is I want them to get your book because you've got a book that dives in deep on all these different things called Brain Energy, A Revolutionary Breakthrough in Understanding Mental Health and Improving Treatment for Anxiety, Depression, OCD, PTSD and more. And again, a lot of people are feeling these

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these symptoms or these conditions these days, or they have early stage symptoms of these things. And I want people to get the information and have the solution to reversing these things because you're not hopeless. It's not hopeless. You give a lot of people the tools on how to reverse a lot of these things.

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And yes, like you've said, there are extreme cases that may need extreme medical interventions. And we're not talking about that. We're talking about the other 90, 95% of people

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who are developing anxiety, overwhelm, stress, PTSD, ADHD, who are having these things that are starting to take over their life, but sounds to me like a lot of them are reversible or manageable to not be consuming one's life. So I want people to get your book. I want them to follow you, brainenergy.com, chrispalmermd.com, also chrispalmermd on X and Instagram.

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and and really send people this conversation in your life your friends your family members and and say hey i just was thinking about you and wanted to see if there's anything that you took away from this conversation i think that's the best way people can support their friends and family as well is there anything else we can do to be of service to you chris

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Yes, 100%. And I wanna finish with this, Chris, because I wanna acknowledge you for, again, three decades of research. And I love this in your book. You dedicate your book to your mother. I'm gonna read it for people. I think it's beautiful. To my mother, my futile attempts to save you from the ravages of mental illness lit a fire in me that burns to this day.

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I'm sorry that I didn't figure this out in time to help you. May you rest in peace. And I just think that's a beautiful mission and purpose that you are living. Even though your mother, you weren't able to be a stand for her, but to be able to

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in her memory, be of service to other people who have family members and friends who are struggling with extreme mental health disorders and feel like there's no hope. And so I really acknowledge you for being a stand for research, being a stand for science, to give people tools and putting yourself out there to hopefully save a lot more lives that are struggling and feel like there's no hope.

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So I'm really, really grateful for you, Chris, for being here today. Thank you. Thank you, Lewis, for having me. Appreciate it. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to Make Money Easy book. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel exclusively on Apple podcasts.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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So if your biology is bad or off, your mental health is probably going to be off as well.

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What do you mean? As a Harvard researcher, psychiatrist, you're supposed to be studying the brain or the mind, right? You're not supposed to be studying or thoughts. You're not supposed to be studying the body, right?

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A psychiatrist is either... Don't think about the rest of the body. Just the mind or the brain or the thoughts.

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The body doesn't work modularly. It works as a unified system, right? It sure does. It sure does. You can't treat one element of the body or the brain by itself without hopefully treating the holistic part of the human being, correct?

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to something very specific that so many of us are struggling with. Before we dive into this, I just want to say thank you. So many of you have been supporting me over the last week as we made this announcement with my first ever national book tour coming up. In just a few short weeks, if you didn't see, we're going to seven cities around the country in 10 days.

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That side effects may include weight gain, diabetes, cardiovascular risk. So people know that these side effects are most likely going to happen and they take it anyways.

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And they probably have lived in a lot of pain and suffering for so long that they want some relief also.

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Yes. I'm curious, how long have you been a psychiatrist for now? 29 years. Almost 30 years, almost three decades. You've probably seen a lot of changes over the last three decades. How many, in your opinion, how many people in America or in the world who you think are on

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mental health drugs some type of mental health related drug actually don't need to be on them if they take other intervention approaches through the things that you're talking about the the health and wellness the the right foods the right sleep how many people would you think don't need to be on those drugs if they intervene in a different way Is it 10% that don't need them? Is it 90%?

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And we would never come back. No. Oh my gosh. And that's the shame associated with the stress, the judgment. Oh, it's not.

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At that time in 2007, eight and nine, LinkedIn was just getting started really. And the president of my school that I had a relationship with, I reached out to him and he said, go on LinkedIn and try to find a job on LinkedIn. So that's what I did. I just took his advice and I started emailing and messaging people executives in Columbus, Ohio, and asking them to meet with me.

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And I started going to Toastmasters because I was afraid of public speaking. And at Toastmasters, this is where I started to develop skills. At Toastmasters, I met really great public speakers who were executives in my city as well. And some of those started helping me out. I remember one time I went to a Toastmasters which is for public speaking. This was when I was in my cast.

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I went to this Toastmasters. I swear to God, I had to have a cutoff shirt because shirts wouldn't fit over the cast. It was so bulky. I had to have a cutoff shirt. I went to this Toastmasters. I give speeches like this. Believe it or not, this is crazy. Like the guy from Rookie of the Year, but I didn't have superpowers with that.

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And so I'd get up in front of a podium and give a speech and I'd stutter. I was terrified. I could not speak. I would read aloud, word for word, the thing that I would say like this. You know, and I'd speak word for word and I wouldn't look up at anyone. I was so terrified. But I knew at that moment that if I didn't go all in on my fears, the fears would never disappear.

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So I just said, I got to go all in on this. And at this one Toastmasters club that I went to, they had like, I don't know, like snacks in the back. And I shit you not, this is so sad, but this is what it took at that time. I had really baggy jeans that I'd wear and a cut-off shirt to this professional board meeting speaking. In the back, they had carrots and broccoli and dip.

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And I was getting napkins, stuffing carrots and broccoli and crackers in my pockets because I had no money for food at this time. And this guy taps me on the shoulder. He goes, what are you doing? I go, I literally was like, I don't have any money. I'm sleeping on my sister's couch. I just got injured playing football. I'm trying to figure out life. And he said, let me get you some lunch.

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He took me down the street, got me some lunch, and he became one of my mentors named Frank Agin. And he coached me on public speaking. We wrote my first book together. He co-wrote it with me, a book about LinkedIn after about a year and a half. So I was just putting myself out there to learn new skills and many people and people started helping me by when I put myself out there.

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These are embarrassing stories that I don't tell anymore because it's like, I didn't have any money. I was taking food wherever I could get it and stuffing it in my pockets. That's how bad it was.

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I was emailing people. I was going to clubs. I was learning salsa dance. I was like, whatever I can do to develop skills.

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I started making money around that skill that I developed. Correct. Something I had no clue how to use in the beginning and made a lot of mistakes around. I eventually learned to master it and people started coming to me and saying, hey, can you teach me about how you're... using LinkedIn to build all these relationships and network with mentors and leaders.

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And I started hosting these LinkedIn networking events for free around the country because I was building groups and communities on LinkedIn and bringing people together. I didn't know how to make money with it at first, but then someone said, hey, can I have a sponsorship booth here and promote my business for 200 bucks? I said, sure. Okay, ding, ding, ding. Let me sell more sponsorships.

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Then someone said, will you do one-on-one consulting with me to optimize my LinkedIn profile? Sure. Okay. They paid me. Then I said, why don't I just write a book about this and sell the book at these events? So that's where all these things started to come. It was right in front of me. This wasn't like my dream in my life is to teach people about LinkedIn.

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But the money was available right there. So it was part of the mission to make that money to help me get out of debt, to help me get off my sister's couch, to be able to pay for my own apartment, to buy my own food, all these different things, to not rely on anyone else. As I started to save that money and have more in the bank and realize I'm not going to go broke,

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I had maybe two years of runway of savings. And I was also living very beneath my means. I was paying $4.95 a month for a rent in Columbus, Ohio. I didn't have a car. I walked everywhere. I mean, I was living frugal life.

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As the LinkedIn guy. Wow. I was taking Greyhound buses, you know, to events. Okay.

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I was taking the bus. I was taking like the cheapest middle seat of the back of like Southwest, wherever I could go. I was staying on friends' couches. I was afraid to spend at that time also. I would stash it, but I wouldn't spend it because I didn't want to go back to the couch and be broke again. And there's a season for everything. You don't want to blow it all when you get it, right?

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But over this time, this is probably a five-year window. I started to make good money. I started to save money. I started doing online courses and hosting events and just doing anything that was right in front of me to make money. And I think that's the right thing that people should do.

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So then I started to reevaluate. Do I really want to be making this type of money? Like, do I want to go online and just teach people about how to optimize their LinkedIn profile for the 10,000th time? Yeah. It wasn't my calling anymore. Got it. It was right for the time, but not for the next season. Okay. So I started to evaluate and I was like, what are the things I really enjoy about this?

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What are the things that I'm loving the most? What would I like to do? What would be amazing to be able to make money doing something with my time? Yeah. And everything went back to, I really love just like connecting with people who are doing inspiring things on LinkedIn and asking them questions. Everything they're teaching me taught me how to build my business now.

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And everyone was asking me like, Lewis, how did you build this business so fast? I mean, five years for me was fast for what I was doing, I guess, but I thought I could have been faster. They were like, how did you build this? And I go, I honestly just like asked the most successful people that I knew that I could find. And they just did what they told me. That was it.

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And I go, oh, maybe people would want to hear these things. Huh. Okay. How can I interview people and make money with it? I don't know, but I'm hearing this thing called podcasting coming out. This was 2011, 2012. And I was like, maybe you can make money in this one day. And so I had two friends who had a podcast and I called them. This was early stages.

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No one knew. And it wasn't a really a way to make money back then. Right. But I knew it would fuel like my heart's desire. I was like, if I can interview the world's smartest people, and I can share that information with others for free, that's going to make me feel good. And that's a generous mindset. So it was helping me, but it was helping others.

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And so I literally just researched it for a few months. And I was like, ah, let me just record one on my phone. I did it with Robert Green. It was my first interview. Robert Green, the author? Robert Green was my first interview.

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It was a big one. Yeah, it was a big one. And, um, and I was hooked. I was just hooked. Even though like 10 people listened in the first week or whatever, I was just like, in my first year of podcasting, that was a full year of me every single week doing an episode and then messaging everyone on LinkedIn and Facebook one by one saying, Hey, go listen to this episode.

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I think you might like this one part. It was just a little reps every single day for that whole year to get that. And I made $0 in the podcast.

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It took me years to make money with it. Now it fed my soul, didn't feed my bank account.

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And I started and I developed skills and confidence and reps. And I understood certain things. And I had a certain level of credibility at that point. I was like, okay, let me go launch this. I feel confident. Even if I don't make money, I'd save money. And I was still building the other business. I was still running things, but I just wanted to get away from that eventually.

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So it took years to get away from it.

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I mean, you were just saying exactly how I was feeling back then, that money is hard. Money is stressful. I don't understand money. I went all in on money, but then it just escaped me. And now it's left me in this horrible place. I'm never going to get out of this place. It's always going to feel hard. I'm always going to be overwhelmed.

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And that's what you kept telling yourself as part of your story.

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There's no way to get out. I think a lot of people think it needs to be hard and stressful to make money. And it needs to be complicated. And it doesn't need to be complicated. You just need to learn the tools and have the courage to be curious to understand more. And when you don't understand something, it seems extremely complicated. Yeah.

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But right when you start to figure it out, right when you start to be able to pedal and stay in alignment on that bicycle, you're like, this is so easy. It's effortless. Most people are unwilling to get on the bicycle and fall a few times because they just don't understand it. This foreign object over here, how am I supposed to sit on these two wheels and go down the street without killing myself?

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It seems so foreign and scary until we do it. It seems like, why was I ever afraid of this in the first place?

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One of the common themes that some of the wealthiest people in the world all have told me through the School of Greatness show. is that the more they give, the more they're generous with their money, the more they make, the more they earn, the more comes to them. And when you have no money, it's hard to think, oh, let me just give my money away.

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Let me be generous with it because you don't have much. But they all tell me that that's the place when you need to learn and develop this habit. Not when you have a lot to give, but when you have a little to give. It's not how much you give to people. It's that you're giving something.

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If you have no money to give, can you give time? Oh, I love that. And one of the things that got me to where I am, and you could probably tell because you've known me for eight years this month. We met eight years ago. And you've seen me over the years.

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And the thing that I bring to the table, I feel like, is I'm curious and I ask people questions and I get them to open up and talk about themselves in unique ways, just like you do. And that is a generous thing that we can do. And when I was early on, these mentors, I would reach out to people on LinkedIn. And initially I said, hey, can you give me some advice? I'm broke. And no one replied to me.

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I can't imagine why. No one replied to me because no one wants to give their time to someone who needs something from them. I was taking from them. Hey, I'm broke. I've got no skills. Can you give me 20 minutes of your time so I can pick your brain? I know you get that all the time. We don't have time. So I realized, oh, this strategy isn't working.

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Let me actually dive in deeper on the person I'm wanting to learn from and actually research their story, learn about the things they overcame, read some articles about them and see if I can like find something unique that is meaningful to them and see if they're willing to tell me about that.

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So I started emailing people differently saying, gosh, it's really interesting how you overcame this one challenge in your career and you jumped to this position. I'd really love to hear about the mindset you had when you were facing that challenge and what got you there. I'm not asking for advice. I'm asking for someone to relive a story that is triumphant for them.

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And one by one, people started replying, say, yeah, I'll call you. I'll take you out to breakfast. They're buying me lunch just to tell me their story. And I'm not asking for advice, but they're giving me all the advice they have through their storytelling. And so if you don't have money, you can be generous with your time.

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You can be generous with your energy, with your questions, and you can have a generous attitude. You can be of service in some other way. You can show up to support at your local church. You can just call a friend and say, hey, I know you're struggling right now. Can I take you out? Can we go for a walk? Can I FaceTime you?

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And these consistent actions that you took, that I took, it was the consistency and the courageous conversations that gave me more confidence. Whoever's listening or watching right now, if anything has resonated with you in any way, the best way you can develop a relationship A mindset of generosity is to share this with one or two friends in your life.

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Share this with your sister, your girlfriend. Share this with your mom, your brother, your spouse. And say, hey, listen, I know things haven't been maybe horrible around money, but I'd love to improve our relationship with money together.

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I'd love to start asking questions and having conversations and feeling more safe around money with you. It doesn't mean we've had a bad relationship with money together, but I want to increase our ability to feel stronger around money so we can both create more abundance in our life financially. Is that something you're open to?

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If so, share with me your biggest takeaway from this episode with Lewis and Mel, and let's talk about it. Just starting here and having a conversation with one or two friends or family members is a huge step forward. Oh, I love that. Text one or two friends, go to your WhatsApp group chat and say, hey guys, I heard a great episode around money. I would love your biggest takeaway from this episode.

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The skill that I'm gonna say is leadership, but learning to lead yourself. It's not the skill that you think, which is like- Yeah, I thought you were gonna say learn to code AI.

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Because you might, there are certain hard skills you're gonna wanna learn. For me, public speaking was one of the greatest skills that I learned. It's more of a soft skill. Leadership overall is the skill that you wanna develop. Learning to lead yourself, learning to navigate your emotions, learning to regulate your emotions, learning to believe in yourself,

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all of that self-leadership and self-emotional intelligence within you. And that takes reflection, that takes listening to this episode, that takes journaling, that takes having a great evening routine, morning routine. It's leading your life to be proud of you and accepting of you. If you're not there yet, it just means great. There's something I get to do every day to improve.

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Stack the wins every single day. So have a conversation with someone every single day for five minutes about money. Create a game plan in your morning routine about what three steps you're going to take today to support you on learning something new about money. Read 10 pages in a book. Listen to this episode. Have a conversation with a friend.

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Start stacking the wins with where you're at in your life. And if you have a lot of money, it might look different than if you don't have a lot of money. but start stacking the wins so you feel the momentum of that money. And you're going to feel more confident when you have that momentum. If you just feel stuck, you don't have momentum.

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So in order to get unstuck, you have to start taking actions every single day. When I was 24, broke on my sister's couch, no clear game plan. I gave myself one and it was a nine month game plan because it was like around this time, it was like March in the beginning of the year. So I was like, all right, by the end of this year, I want to have one goal accomplished from money.

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And I did this, which was I wrote down $5,000. I just thought it's something for me that seems so unrealistic. Five grand at that time was like, I don't know how I'm going to make this money. I don't know where the money is going to come from. I have no clue. But let me just write down a goal for myself, five grand. And I said, how do I want to make this money?

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I would like to make it from public speaking. I just got into public speaking classes at Toastmasters.

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And reading word for word, not looking at the audience, like sweating out of my cutoff shirt, smelling up the room. And I literally said, it would be a dream to make five grand from one speech. But it terrified me. It excited me and terrified me at the same time. So this is what I did. I wrote it down on a piece of paper and I signed it with a date that I wanted to accomplish it by.

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I just wanted to create a visualization practice for myself with a clear goal and a clear date in mind. Got it. Five grand, date, by when, how I'm going to do it. I put it on the wall. I framed it on my bedroom right behind me on my wall. So every day I woke up, I turn around, I see the goal in mind. So I just had a clear direction.

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It wasn't like what I'm going to do in 10 years and I'm going to be a millionaire one day. It was like, I just want to make five grand in nine months, giving a speech. I don't know how I'm going to do it, but I'm going to show up every single week to Toastmasters to take action and get better at the skill.

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And I'm going to start giving free workshops through LinkedIn, which I started using LinkedIn to build relationships. So I said, I'm going to find a way to to do free events, tell people I'll speak at their company, I'll do a lunch and learn, whatever it is, I'll do anything for free to practice, to get reps.

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So every week I went to public speaking class and then I was doing free workshops for those next nine months. At one point, someone gave me $100 and I was like, this is incredible, I'm rich. And I just said, okay, I need to do more of this thing. And eventually by the end, I shit you not, $5,000 for one speech came to me by the end of that date.

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And I think the deadline created such a level of urgency for me to take action. Again, I was working hard. It doesn't mean I was like, just like, I'm going to think it and money's going to flow to me. That's not what this is about. I was showing up weekly. I was terrified weekly. And I showed up to develop skills for myself so that my value appreciated.

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Yes. You just need to learn the tools and have the courage to be curious to understand more.

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Okay. So there are three key steps to improving your relationship with money. And that's really the first thing that we need to understand. What is our relationship with money? The first one, really understanding your money wounds.

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It becomes a money wound, which is a part of your money story.

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When you can write down and journal, here are some of the things that happened to me when I was younger around money that caused me to feel a little anxious, a little avoidant, that make me feel stressed about money. And just write down the stories that you remember. For me, I remember stealing money. I remember stealing candy bars at stores.

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I remember the shame that I felt by getting caught when I was younger, stealing money. And just like, man, that was a wound. That was a trauma in my life. I remember also, this is a really sad story. I didn't really have many friends growing up. Being dyslexic, similar to yourself, you probably had a lot of friends, probably missed popularity.

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But I was dyslexic and always in the special needs classes in school. And I remember when any time kids would hang out with me or talk to me, I was like just holding on to it. I was like, oh, please hang out with me. And there was these two kids that wanted to start a club, an after-school club, like in their basement, right?

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And they said in order to join the club, you either need to answer a couple of questions or Or you need to pay money. And I was like, well, I don't have any money. So what are the questions? And I didn't know the answer to the questions. And I felt like the dumbest kid in the world. And so I went home and I talked to my mom. I said, mom, I need $5 to join this club.

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And she was like, I don't have the money. And I go, I really need this. And she could see the desperation in my heart. And so we turn over the couch cushions and she's looking for quarters. She's going into a room, her drawers, and she gets together $5 and change, puts it in a shoe box. And I walked to the house where the kids are.

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I hand them the shoebox with $5 in it and I hang out with them for like an hour. They're talking with themselves in the basement and it's just me by myself. And I just feel like I'm the dumbest person in the world. I can't answer their questions. I barely had the money to just be their friends. And even when I did, I'm not their friend. It's a fake friend.

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And I never went back to that because I was just like, man, this doesn't feel good. So this is a money wound. These are just stories that I had, these memories that still lived with me today. And I had to learn how to... create a new story.

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You know, it's like, I still don't know the answers to these things.

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It's really getting clear on what your money memories are through your money wounds. So just taking a writing a list of like stories, memories around money wounds. Where are the things where money was tied to? Maybe something your parents said and they struggled and they had arguments or they fought. Maybe you had to move schools because you couldn't afford something anymore.

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Maybe you had to move out of the house, whatever it might be. Maybe you had to live with your aunts and uncles for a season of time because your parents didn't have money. Maybe kids made fun of you because you were wearing something that wasn't cool. Whatever it might be, just write down the memories of your money history, your money story.

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And these are some money wounds that still, if you haven't learned to heal and have a better relationship with those stories and learn to essentially forgive yourself, create a new relationship with yourself around that and just kind of hug yourself emotionally like, okay, this is what I went through as a kid and it sucked. But as an adult, I can do things differently. Yeah.

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And these stories don't have to define me. These wounds don't have to stay open anymore. That's right. But a lot of us are unconsciously still acting out of wounds that we haven't healed. It's true. And when it's tied to money and you're in intimate relationship with your partner, your boyfriend, your girlfriend, your husband, your wife, there's even a greater charge to that emotional feeling.

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And it's not a feeling of freedom. It's a feeling of stress, overwhelm. So I don't know what conversations you heard from parents or peers or friends growing up around money. Did you have like, were your parents very cautious around money and did they have a good relationship? Did they never argue around money? Did they never stress about it? Did they teach you and empower you around money?

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Or did it feel like money doesn't grow on trees? Money is challenging. We're fighting because of money conversations. We don't have enough. There's never enough. These bills I got to pay. Like, was that part of your story? Yeah.

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It helps you because when you heal your relationship with money, then you can feel free with money. And if you feel stuck and trapped and anxious or avoidant or overwhelmed with money, you're not free. And it's hard to create from a place of scarcity. It's hard to just experience joy and love and passion and fun in your life from a place of scarcity. It's really challenging.

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So why would you think that having that same energy with money is going to create more financial freedom for you?

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By criticizing yourself, and I'm an idiot, how could I let myself do this? Why could I let myself get in debt?

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But I mean, that's how a lot of people feel. And that's how I felt at that time. I was like, why didn't I just try harder in school? Why didn't I go get that medical degree? Why didn't I do something that was safe? Why did I try to pursue this crazy dream of playing football? I got injured and now I have nothing. It's like this guilt, shame, energy that only keeps you trapped.

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It doesn't create a space of flourishment, of growth and abundance. It keeps you stagnant, stuck and feeling not enough. It's going back to this word of peace. Most people have a lack of peace when it comes to money.

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You're stressed. Of course. There is no peace. There is no peace. There is no peace. And I'm not saying like, oh, you're broke and you're in chaos mode right now. Just feel peace. That's really hard to do. It's first step is understanding your story.

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Once you know your story, the second one is to reset your money mindset. What do you mean money mindset? This sounds weird. We need to reset and rewire our brains to... have the ability so that more money can come to us effortlessly and easily, even though we're going to be working and taking actions to get there on a consistent basis.

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But we need to rewire our brains to allow for money to come to us.

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You start educating yourself. You start educating yourself. You start getting mentors. You start learning about it. You start having conversations around money where you can feel comfortable as opposed to scared. Again, most people feel afraid of just having a conversation about it.

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They won't speak to their parents about it. Their parents are hush-hush. They don't talk about it. You don't talk to your partner about it. It's just confusing and scary. And so you have to rewire your mind to think about money.

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And it's not getting rid of hard work. No one can say that you don't work hard, that I don't work hard. We work hard. But it's about the energy around money. How can we make that feel easier when we receive it and when we give it away? It's shifting the energy and the relationship with those things so that you feel more free. Okay.

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A strategy that I've learned over the years is when money comes to me, I thank money. If you don't have that feeling of, man, I'm grateful that you're here. I'm grateful that money just came to me. Again, it's tying it to the mindset, which is a generous spirit. And when you have a generous heart, you have a thankful heart. So I'm thanking money when it comes.

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And when it goes, this is the hard thing, you have to thank it when it goes. Why? Most people don't like spending money on their bills. For me, this was one of the hardest things I've had to learn, spending money on taxes. And for years, I freaking hated it. I hated it. I hated it. And that energy kept me trapped. It kept me stressed out and trapped.

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It doesn't mean I have to love it and enjoy it, but I have to shift my relationship with spending money on bills spending money on taxes, spending the money on things that you don't feel like you want to spend on.

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I'm one step closer to being financially out of debt. It's like, it's repeating these things every time, like when you're paying for your cell phone bill or whatever, it's like, thank you for giving me an ability to communicate with the world. Thank you for the ability to be able to call my mom. Thank you for the ability to call my best friend when she's struggling.

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It's when we create more of an emotional appreciation around these things. We can then feel emotionally safe around money and have conversations in a unique way. I get emotional thinking about that because I'm like, just being able to call my mom on FaceTime, I don't see my family that often.

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But my cell phone bill, I don't know, it's probably a few hundred dollars a month that I pay automatically. And if I was paying it by itself and writing a check, I would say, thank you for giving me the ability to connect with the people I love the most. Mm-hmm. And looking at it that way, as opposed to, ah, this is freaking another cell phone bill. Oh, they garge me on these fees.

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Like, oh man, I'm getting screwed here. It's like the energy is not good. And so it's learning how to shift out of that stressful energy into a more of a healthy, peaceful energy. Well, and what else is cool is you're clearly in control when you do that. You're in control. You may not like it or love that you're paying these bills or paying off this debt. No, it's not enjoyable.

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I would say money is good. Money is my friend. Oh. Money comes to me effortlessly.

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Money is good. You have to start training yourself. Money is good. Money is my friend. I'm not afraid of money. I feel safe with money. And you're going to be saying things that aren't true to start with. You're not going to feel these things. But you need to reinforce these things with your behaviors on a daily basis.

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It took me years to have money conversations where I felt more comfortable talking about money. Years. I was not comfortable asking questions and talking about it and talking about how much I make, how much I spend, how much debt I have. It didn't feel good. But the more I practiced, the more I did it on a consistent basis, the more I felt safe around my money situation. So what's the third step?

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The third one is really about getting clear on your meaningful money mission.

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There's different seasons of life. Some seasons, we just need to make money to pay the bills. But the goal is to get clear on your meaningful money mission. Because if you're just making money to make money, it still stresses you out if there's not a clear goal in mind that is bigger than making money. How is this money going to serve you? How is it going to serve your family?

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And how am I going to be generous with this in the future? Even if you can't think about being generous with your money now, start planning, what will I do with this money that can help others around me? Is it my friends? Is it my family? Is it a charity that I love? Is it my community? Is it the school? Is it the church? How am I going to use this for good?

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That'll attach more meaning to your money mission. So when I was getting started, my money mission was to get out of college debt, was to get off my sister's couch, was to be able to pay for my own rent, make my own money so I could pay for whatever I needed to. People have a lack of clarity on what they want, why they want it, and where the money's going to go.

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Yeah, or you're just going to be back in the place of like, okay, I got this money, I spent it, and now what do I do? I need to go make more money for what? So just getting clear on your money mission. For me, I was very clear and I defined it early on. I want to impact and inspire 100 million lives every single week to improve the quality of their life.

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So it just became a clear mission, which also allowed me to say no to money that I didn't want. And most people say yes to any money that comes their way. And I say no to a lot of different things that don't align with the mission. So for instance, I don't have alcohol sponsors, gambling sponsors, porn sponsors, whatever it is, they just don't align with me and my mission.

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So you have to know when to say no to money that isn't meant for you as well. And say yes to the money that is meant for you and your meaningful money mission.

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So there's a pendulum on this, and I call it the priority pendulum. And on one side, it's kind of chasing your passion. really excited about these things when they go all in on it. But most people, if they're lucky, they can make money with their passion. It's hard sometimes.

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And it might take years to develop skills and tools and resources and networking to be able to make money full-time with your passion. Then the other side is like, okay, I'm just going to go the practical route. And I'm just going to get any job I can get, but there's zero fun. It's miserable. It sucks the life out of me. It's like, I'm drained every day when I go home from work.

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And so there's a season for that as well. Okay. Like you're not going to stay in that for 20 years if it's sucking the life out of you. Or you got to learn how to make it fun. The goal is to get more towards the middle, which is kind of the meaningful mission area around money, as opposed to just being practical. And there was a time where I drove trucks.

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I was making $250 a week, driving a truck six hours a day. I needed to make money. I had to do what it takes to make some money. So I was in that season of more practicality, and I made the most of it, but I didn't enjoy it. Now, I wanted to go play football, but I couldn't play football at that time. That was the passion.

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So I eventually got into more of the meaningful mission area of this, which is figuring out how can I align my passion with making money the best way possible and start working towards that more and more. Again, you were a lawyer and you turned it into, but I'm also a really good communicator. I love inspiring people. I love empowering people.

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And over time, you eventually learned how to bring that into where you are now. And when you can do that, that's a beautiful thing. But that took years and steps to happen. So that's part of the mission side of things.

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If you're not clear at all, you're screwed.

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You're screwed because you're like, what's the point of making it? I don't know. And I'm just trying, I got to keep it. I don't want to get in debt. You're stressed.

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And it can simply be, how much do I want to make this year? It can just be a goal. It doesn't have to be like this mission for the rest of your life, but it can just be like, okay, for the next three months, I'm going to take on this job to help me get out of this debt. That can be your mission for right now. It doesn't have to be figuring out your money mission forever.

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Right now, I'm going to read a book about money. I'm going to talk to a financial advisor. I'm going to ask my parents about money, and I'm just going to learn a little bit in the next few months. That's my mission. It doesn't have to be, I'm going to figure out how to get out of debt forever.

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It's just give yourself a map and a game plan that you can take actions every single day to support you feeling more clear and safe around money.

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where I'm taking actions to mend my relationship with money. You know, I'm taking actions daily. I'm having conscious conversations to mend and heal my relationship with money.

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How much time are you on there?

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100%, that educates you. You start educating yourself, you start getting mentors.

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I've lost so many friends over the years that really hurt me early on because I didn't understand why.

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But it became clear that if your friends or your friend circle, if you want to make different changes based on your friend circle's current situation, and you go six months like a ghost and you just kind of focus on your goals, you take action, you never go out, and you really overcome, whether it be financially or physically or whatever it might be, people aren't going to necessarily like that or appreciate it.

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when they see you come back in six months or a year of you changing your habits and changing your mindset because you're killing off the person they once knew. And they don't like feeling like, oh, you're doing something different. You're used to going out on the weekends. You're used to going out and drinking a beer after work on Fridays, whatever it might be.

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And when you want to change your vision and change your map and change your mission towards something new, you're going to have to make sacrifices. And people don't like that. They really don't. Let them. Let them. Let them. Someone wrote a great book that helps you overcome the fear of worrying about what people think about you.

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Because that's one of the greatest things that holds people back is when you're worried about what your friends or family or online community is going to think about you when you change.

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I've asked this so many times.

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I have to reflect on my... My answer is no. The first one would be the greatest priority you should have is taking care of your health, physically, emotionally, and spiritually. Because if you don't have a healthy life, it's hard to really create the life of your dreams.

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The second thing would be to live in gratitude every single day for the good, the challenging, the ups and downs, because gratitude is the gateway to love and abundance. The third thing I would say is to pursue your dreams and the calling in your heart with all your strength until that calling goes away. Never give up on your dreams and make sure you leave it all on the playing field.

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It's interesting. I'll be 42 next month. And I was having a conversation with my wife, Martha, last night before I went to bed, just thinking how blessed I am, how blessed I am that she's in my life, how blessed I am that I did so much work to heal so that I could receive love and feel I'm worthy of love. And I just truly believe that when we can take care of our heart and

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we can heal, we can mend the pain from our past in any way possible to know that we are love, know that we are lovable, that we are worthy and deserving of love. Just everything in my life has changed since then. And it's been a beautiful gift and blessing in my life to be in a peaceful, harmonious relationship when most of my life felt like chaos inside. Mm-hmm.

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And one of the reasons why I wanted to do this book is because I didn't want people to stress. Because a lot of people are just feeling stress and overwhelm and anxiety from everything in life. Relationships was one of the big stressors for me. Intimacy. And I just want to leave people with the knowing. I am certain and know that you are lovable and you are deserving of love.

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And I don't want your past wounds, I don't want your money struggles to get in the way of you knowing that. And that would be the thing that I would leave with people is trust that you will figure it out if you're willing to do the work. Don't try to do the work on your own. I had lots of mentors, therapists, guides, friends who supported me over the years, but I reached out to them constantly.

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I seeked the advice and the help. I didn't just say, oh, no one's helping me. And I want people to know that they are loved, that they are worthy, and that they matter.

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I'm pumped. It's freezing out, but I'm excited.

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I did. I pulled it out of the closet and I got to bring it out, which is fun. So I'm excited.

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Beautiful. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Of course.

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Now more than ever, it seems like it's scarier than ever because you don't know if you're going to have a job in six to 12 months with AI. You don't know if you can afford your bills, your rent, your car payments, food. Like you said, egg prices are going through the roof. It's like $10 for an egg or something now. Gas prices are through the roof. The economy, inflation is still high.

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It just seems like harder and harder to get ahead, to stay ahead, and to get more than month to month ahead. So now more than ever, there's uncertainty and fear, and it seems scary. But it's also a time of great opportunity if you can have clarity, understanding, on what you want, why you want it, and where the money's going to go.

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I think a lot of people think it needs to be hard and stressful to make money, and it needs to be complicated. And it doesn't need to be complicated. You just need to learn the tools and have the courage to be curious to understand more.

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Yeah. I mean, I, I was sleeping on my sister's... I pursued the dream to make the NFL. I never made it, but I played in the Arena Football League. And in the Arena Football League, I was making $250 a week. And I was living in a free apartment with another teammate that they put us up on the team. And we had food stamps to pay for food during the week. So this is in Huntsville, Alabama, 2007.

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And... Again, $250 a week you can't live on. So it was, they paid for our rent and they gave us food stamps and about a thousand bucks a month. And I didn't care at the time because I was getting to live my dream. Most people, I talked to my nephews and nieces and their friends in their early and late twenties. They don't know their purpose.

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They don't know how to manage their emotions, how to regulate emotions, how to navigate their nervous system. They don't know how to navigate when someone's ghosting them. They're just in chaos mode emotionally. And they don't understand why am I here? What's my purpose? let alone understand money. They don't have the energy to even think about money.

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Exactly. I was at least clear, but I didn't have the ability to regulate my emotions still. I was still a mess emotionally, but I was excited about the path that I was on with my career at the time, which was playing sports.

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I could live off very little. And yeah, my rent was covered.

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I got injured. I had to have a surgery. I had a bone taken out of my hip, put it in my wrist, and I was in a cast for six months. So during that time, it was a lot of stress because I was thinking about, oh, I can't play football again. I don't have a college degree. I'm in all this debt. I don't have any savings.

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I can't walk still because they took a bone out of my hip and I had 15 staples in there. I couldn't use my arms. So I was just feeling like the grief and sadness that my dream was over. I had no backup plan, no college degree, no money. You know, I'm a grown man in my young 20s, but I feel like a child because I'm sleeping on my sister's couch.

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She's providing, she's taking care of me, she's feeding me. You don't feel worthy if you can't take care of yourself. If you don't feel like you can appreciate your own value or believe in yourself that you're capable of creating or generating, you have shame and guilt associated with that. And that energy made me feel worse. I had to first learn how to grieve the loss of my dream.

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Yeah, and trying to understand why am I here? What's the purpose of my life? If this was my dream and I felt like I was supposed to do, most people don't even know what they're supposed to do. I knew what I wanted to do, but now it's done. So I was like, what's the point of this? Also, my dad had gotten into a pretty bad car accident about a year and a half before that.

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So he was still recovering from this accident, this brain trauma that he had, and he was never the same man again. So I was losing the loss of my dad emotionally. He was physically alive, but emotionally a different person. and this was also in 2008, when you know how bad the economy was, the housing market crashed then. It kind of felt like the uncertainty of right now, 2025.

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There's a lot of uncertainty what's going to happen. It does feel similar, doesn't it? There isn't a crash in the market, but it feels like People can't afford anything, right? We don't know how to afford anything. And we don't know, are we going to be able to keep making money in the future? People are losing their jobs left and right. Gas price keeps going up. I can't afford rent.

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How can I save to even get ahead? So it had that feeling, that energy for me. I was just like, I don't know what to do. And I felt stuck. I felt trapped. I felt paralyzed.

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And you're living in that fear and stress and anxiety.

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You're like, let them have a glitch.

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The stuff that Dave loves talking about the most, the feelings. You know, that's what we talked about earlier. Dave's big on feelings.

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Yeah, because, you know, you guys are the money experts. I was just coming to this approach of like, I see so many people struggling with money, trying to understand it. I didn't understand it growing up and I was afraid of it. So I was like, how do I have a better, healthier relationship with the idea of money when I receive it, when I spend it, when I give it, all these different things.

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It was very messy for me. I learned how to make it but I almost felt trapped by it still. I still felt like I was living in kind of an anxiety, a stress, an emotional scarcity around it, even though I had a lot of it in the bank. So what made it easy? Well, getting in touch with my feelings, as weird as that sounds, but kind of going back into the past and assessing my money story.

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And I grew up at a time in the 80s when my parents didn't have a lot. They got married very young. They worked very hard trying to make ends meet. Four kids. I was the youngest. And essentially, I didn't have a good belief system around money. And there was different moments and memories that I created meaning around these money stories that was like, okay, I'm not good at making it.

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I don't understand it. There's a lot of stress involved around money with my parents. It starts to feel like it's for someone else. Yeah. And it was like scary. And I was like, how can I receive it if I don't understand it? And as I started making it, it was out of survival to get off my sister's couch. I was living on her couch for about a year and a half when I was 23 to 25.

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And I just wanted to feel like I could take care of my own life. And so I started finding many mentors, started watching some of your stuff, learning from people locally in Ohio. And I started making it, but I didn't feel safe with it, and I hoarded it. So I was like, what's the point of all this money if I still don't feel good, if I still feel like something's off inside of me?

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And so it's really been a journey over the last decade of, okay, I've got financial peace, but I have a lack of emotional peace still. And that feels... Really scary.

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Yeah. And it was the absolute opposite. That's a lie. Money didn't solve my problems. That's right. It helped me have an apartment to live in and buy things, but it didn't make me feel emotionally safe. And so I was like, what's the point of all this then if I can't feel safe with the money I have? And I also feel like it's triggering so much more of my –

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what do we want to call it, wounds or scarcity where I felt like people were taking advantage of me and they were hurting me. They just wanted to be around me because I was making money. So I felt unvalued even with the money I had. I was like, what's the point of all of this?

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So that's the approach of this conversation.

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Exactly. Because every time someone poked my emotional wounds, I would react in bigger ways. And I think the money just made me feel even more scarce around it. So it was really going back into the money story and healing a lot of these parts of me where I felt broken and feeling more emotionally whole. So again, I could truly have the financial peace.

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And that's where I've seen a lot of people kind of sabotage the money they have because they're like, it didn't solve the problem. Let me spend it all and just go back to being broke.

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To numb the emotions, right? And Dave's favorite thing to talk about is feelings here. Yes, yes. And so it's really getting to a place. I had interviewed Dave earlier, and we had a joke about feelings. But for me, it was getting to a place, I just want to feel more at peace. And having financial peace is one part of the picture, but it amplified my lack of inner peace.

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Everything. It affected all my relationships, business partnerships, friends, family. I had some stuff with family I had to deal with because now I'm the youngest and I'm making the most. And it felt, I just didn't know how to create boundaries. I didn't know how to have courageous conversations. I didn't want to upset people. I wanted everyone to like me.

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So let me just give them what everyone's asking for. But then I feel taken advantage of. Now I resent people. Now I resent. All these emotions were swirling around me, the center of money.

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Yeah, for me, it was... I really appreciate every time I get to talk to you, Dave, because I feel like I get to ask you these questions every now and then, and I don't hear you talk about them that much.

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And I'm always like, I'm worried about asking a weird question to Dave around spirituality or relationships or feelings, but I get so much value out of it, so I appreciate you for sharing these things and opening up when I talk to you about it. But for me, I got to a place where I was always making more money in my business, and then one year I made less.

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And I remember the last time I talked to you, you were like, we made less in the last year. It was still a ton of money, but you were like, It wasn't as much as the year before. And when that happened to me, it kind of broke me psychologically. I mean, it didn't ruin my life, but I was like, I was trying to grasp like air, because I couldn't control me not making more money this year or something.

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Like some things happen, shifts, and it messed with me. And I had to get to a place of really connecting more with God and faith that like, money's gonna come and money's gonna go. Whether I get way more money this year or next year, I'm going to be okay. If I make less, I'm going to be okay.

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As long as I live in the values that you guys talk about, which is we're here to serve, I'm going to keep showing up and giving my best, I'm going to live with generosity, and I'm also to keep reflecting on how I can improve and shift things and not just be a victim to what's happening, make decisions, make changes, but I'm here to serve. And I think living in that state makes – Not such a free –

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And I was ego-driven, not always, but it was like, I need to make more, and it needs to look good, and what if the followers are down, and what if they're ready? Totally. And I just said, screw all that. Let me serve. Let me add value, and good things are

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And you talk about this, our beliefs influence our behavior. So if we believe we're not worthy, we're probably going to not create an experience or the working environment or opportunities that add more to our life. If we believe we're unworthy of love, or if we believe we're worthy, then we're going to step into things naturally and behave in accordance and alignment with that belief.

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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So for a lot of people who are watching or listening, they probably have struggled in relationships and they're not sure on how to make theirs the best possible they can right now. Or maybe they're going through a challenge right now. And it seems like we've got single phase, dating phase, committed dating phase, And then a choice to be married and committed, hopefully long-term phase.

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And it wasn't until I started to do deeper reflection, deeper healing work, and start creating a relationship with myself from a place of peace and wholeness, when I was able to create and attract a relationship in my life of the same mirror image. In this episode, we are talking with an inspiring guy named Steven Chandler, who's going to talk about

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And then marriage, right? What would be the step-by-step process then from being single to getting into a relationship that will lead to a beautiful, loving marriage?

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In terms of what, just dating, the dating phase?

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But what if, I wanna push back and ask you about this. What if, man, you can have fun with this person, but you haven't asked the tough questions until three, six, eight months in. And you realize, oh, our values are not aligned. Like we can go out and have great dinner and go bowling and go travel. And, man, we have great conversation and same interests. But, oh, they actually don't want kids.

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Oh, they're actually in debt 100 grand. And that scares me. Oh, actually, they got to talk about that thing. Oh, they actually don't want to, you know, raise our kids in this way. Yeah. They you know, their in-laws are so intertwined in the relationship that it's to whatever it is, you know. How can we ask questions that make sure they fit the picture without interrogating them too much?

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Or they may say, I want to have a kid with you. Yeah. And they may change their opinion. You know what's interesting? As I reflect back on all the challenging relationships that didn't work out, but that taught me beautiful lessons. Yeah. I don't blame any of these individuals. I was equally a part of them.

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the process of dating and staying in a healthy relationship. We dive deep into why the only destination for dating should be marriage, which is something that I never thought about. I was actually like, maybe this will happen, but let's see. And let me just get to know you first and this and this. It was never thinking, okay, are we really in alignment early on? Are we really...

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There's something, you asked me before we started the conversation, and you said something around the fact of like, how did you know she was the one for me, Martha? And I didn't really give you the clearest answer, but I knew she could be the one when I realized that

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she was resourceful enough to take care of our future kids if we had them and something happened to me where I died, where I was no longer able to provide. I trusted that she was a resourceful woman, that she was a spiritual woman, that she was able to do things where she could provide and value in so many other ways to children if we decided to have them.

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And if we decided to get married, all these different things a few months in. And I was like, this is a woman. And I was always dating girls where I felt like I had to rescue or they weren't resourceful, but this person I can trust with my kids. And that made me feel like, oh, this is, maybe she's not the one, but she could be the one. It was like a feeling.

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Why, maybe I'll just speak for myself in my 20s, but why do so many of us choose people with sexual connection over friendship to be in relationships of like attraction? Yeah. Wow. We have a great connection or they're a great kisser. They look so good. Or we're like compelled by the physical versus the spiritual or the friendship.

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on the right path or are we just attracted to each other physically and we have fun and we like each other. So we're going to start investing all this time and energy and realize that we're actually not in alignment. We don't have the same values of the vision and we have a lot of friction actually. And I'm not saying you're never going to have friction, but it shouldn't be friction every day.

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I always think about this. I don't know how people get married in their 20s. Because for me, I just feel like I would have been married and divorced. Or I just had a really challenging time if I'd have gotten married the way that I know I thought in my 20s. Or just my ability to manage my emotions or just all that stuff. I would have really struggled.

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Do you think people should wait longer to get married? Or getting married young is a good thing? Absolutely not get married young.

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I know, man. It's so hard. Pays off. Yeah. If you can get through it together. If you can get through it together. But if you can't, it's going to be five, 10 years of stress.

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I mean, it's exhausting when you have that. So we dive deep on all these things and how to identify red flags versus yellow flags versus green flags and why having a clear vision is essential before bringing someone into your life. Because, man, I brought a lot of people into my life in the past and it caused a lot of pain and a lot of problems and a lot of setbacks and all these different things.

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When you were working on the writing of this book, Relationship Roadmap, what was something that you realized that you believe in, maybe you preach at your church frequently, and you know really works well in a marriage that you went against or struggled with earlier in your marriage?

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Or was it a challenge for you to fully embrace in your journey?

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And I also... So you were pushing and driving and trying to accomplish or create or let's do this.

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All you think about is marriage. The thing you say is the first two steps in your roadmap is have a clear vision, like the picture in mind, and don't waste your time essentially on anyone who can't fit that picture. But if you have that same approach towards goal accomplishment, This is the end result. We got to go do this. You're not enjoying the moments in the present.

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So that was something you did early on? Oh, yeah. Really? Oh, yeah. When did you wake up to it and say, okay, I just need to create memories and moments and be present day by day, even if it's not pushing towards my timeline of this goal? Well, I think there was a couple of factors.

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And once I got clear, once I was able to go on the healing journey and create wholeness within me, that's when I was able to create wholeness outside of me. So if you are stuck or struggling in a relationship in your life or you feel like your relationship with yourself is not where it needs to be, then this is the episode for you. And I hope you enjoy it. I'm excited for you to be here.

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For some people. For some people, it's like, what's next? What's next? It's not enough.

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Really? So you accomplished a lot of your big goals and dreams earlier than you expected. Absolutely. Yeah. And then you realize I need to take some pauses or take some breaks or be more present. you realize there's more to life than just the next goal.

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It's interesting you say that because Michael Todd, when he was on here, he said early on he had a mentor when he was getting into his, you know, becoming a pastor and learning how about how to be an effective leader. He said he had a mentor who told him, you need to take a month off every year.

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No matter how successful, how busy, how many people want your time and attention, how many opportunities, you need to schedule a month off. Otherwise, it's going to trap you. And you're going to burn out. And he said he always does that every year. I think he does it every year. But he even said, one of his last books that came out was a New York Times bestseller for like 16 weeks in a row.

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He goes, I had all these opportunities to go do more press, but I had this scheduled in for this month. And the week I left to stop doing press, the book came off the New York Times bestseller list. But I'm at peace with that because I know I'm in this for the long term and not just trying to grab everything right now. Yeah.

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And so it sounds like you have a similar approach to making sure you either have days, weeks or time where you reflect, recover and relax.

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Please make sure to subscribe to our podcast if you haven't yet over on Apple or Spotify. and share your review your feedback on this episode on Apple podcast so I can hear your thoughts on your review here. I'm so grateful for you. And let's go ahead and dive in today's episode. You say we should not be dating unless it's to get married. Isn't that right? Yeah, absolutely.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness. It is a blessed and beautiful day, and I hope you're feeling blessed and grateful for all that you have in your life right now.

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How do you phrase that though?

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was I was like, listen, I'm never gonna get upset at you. I'm gonna be maybe frustrated or maybe we're gonna have like disagreements, but I'm never gonna be angry at you for your way of being or who you are because I feel like I've gotten to know you. I feel like I've seen your personality. We've had all this time together.

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And I'm choosing to get into this relationship accepting you for who you are. And because I'm gonna accept you, I shouldn't try to change you. I know you have a growth mindset, so you're going to be growing on your own. I know you want coaching and therapy because you're already doing it. So you're in a mindset of like, how can I reflect and improve and grow?

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So me trying to change you doesn't work. And I have one condition. Don't try to change me. Accept me as well. This is who I am and I'm going to grow and I do coaching and I have mentors, things like that. But as long as we can accept each other, I think it could be a beautiful relationship. That's when things get in trouble.

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Did you have a good foundation or training when you were growing up as a young boy developing in your teens and early 20s? Did you have a foundation of what healthy, conscious marriage looks like? Cool. Yes and no.

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And that's what I dealt with in my past was like, I always felt like I had to change to make someone happy. And that's exhausting.

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Run. This is going to be a controversial question or conversation we're about to talk about. I'm here for it. What is the difference between a man's role in a marriage, a woman's role in a marriage, and God's role in a marriage? Okay.

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Where we can't both dribble at the same time?

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And what are the best use of the roles for men and women in marriage? All right, you go pin me in the corner.

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Yeah, I call that purpose. Yeah. What's the purpose you're meant to do to solve that problem, to help fix this thing?

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What if she's like, oh... My man's not able to provide in the same way that all my girlfriend's men provide. And so we live in a way that is not as enjoyable as them. I can't go and do certain things with my friends because we don't have the means because my man isn't providing for me. So I'm going to have to step up and go make my own money because he can't provide. Well, that's real.

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But that's tricky, though. 10, 20 years, you might have a new vision. You might have a new vision for life. You might have different goals, different seasons. We've been walking through it.

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They'll be growing and earning more.

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I know. That's the challenge. But, okay, Stephen, at 22, you're not making squat. You're making 10, 12 bucks an hour. You're not providing. You can't even afford rent. You're still at home. Yeah, yeah. How are you going to marry someone who can't provide when you're that young getting married?

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Yeah, you weren't just sleeping on your parents' couch trying to figure out life, just being a charmer. You were working, you were devoted, you were committed, you had a vision for your life, you were developing your skills. And so someone can sense and feel that.

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It's kind of like what beauty and looks are for men and women. Money is to women and men. It's like you could see the person with a lot of money and can be very seductive and attractive. Oh, this person can provide for me. But do they have a good character, good values? Do they have good relationships?

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Yeah. But also, sometimes a great model isn't always the right roadmap. Right? They may not be giving you the direction. They may be showing something. Here's a beautiful destination. But how do you get there? So I had a great model.

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Or are they just going to, you know, be abusive in some way because they feel like they have money or power?

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I will say. What about the women watching or listening to say, I don't want to put my security in a man until he can prove he's trustworthy. So I'm just going to always have this, create the security for myself and be in control of my own life.

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But then when you're getting committed or in a marriage, you just surrender all trust. And here's why I say that.

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It's I don't trust them with my heart. So why get married to the person if you don't trust them with your heart? Because none of us think that deeply.

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So the man's role, I'm hearing you say, is protect and provide. Is there any other role that the man should have in marriage?

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Let me push back on this then. For the men that say, I've tried to lead, but she just keeps taking over control. She won't listen. She keeps pushing back on me. She won't either submit, surrender, relax in my leadership, whatever you want to call the word. And so I've just stopped because it's exhausting because I'm leading, but then she's pushing back constantly and pushing against my vision.

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So I just let her do what she wants to do and be in control.

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I can. That's true. Come on. I don't like that. You know what I'm like, this is my vision. And when you question me, it doesn't feel good.

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It's a lot. It's a lot. So pick the right person. Pick the right person for you.

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And not a lot of good ones for you. For you. Yeah.

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So what is the role of a woman in a marriage then? So

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What you do with God and who you choose to spend the rest of your life with. Those are the two most important decisions.

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Do you think people can have a healthy, loving, abundant relationship if they do not have God at the center of the relationship?

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Wow. What do you think people struggle with hearing the most about their roles getting into a marriage, both men and women?

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I've got a couple of final questions for you, but this is a powerful book called Relationship Roadmap, Step-by-Step Directions to Finding Your Spouse. And again, most people are struggling and challenged with relationships in their life. And this is going to give you the tools on how to set you up with more success. So make sure you guys get a copy or two.

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Give it to a friend who might be struggling in the relationship as well. Someone who's been married 12, almost 13 years now, but also been around a lot of individuals who've been married for a long time. You have great married mentors, and I'm assuming you've counseled many people in their marriages as well.

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As I get into my newly married season of life, what would be three pieces of advice you'd give me that either you followed when you were getting married or you wish you would have followed as well? Well, first of all, congrats.

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It wasn't worth fighting or arguing about. Yeah. Okay. So that's your first piece of advice.

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I'm getting the chills the whole time you're talking about this because that's another thing, now that I'm thinking about it, where I realized that Martha was the one. Early in the relationship, just service is a big part of my life. Being of service, however that might look.

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It might be donating to a cause I really care about or just impacting the person that came up to me on the street that says hello. And being of service in that moment in a small way or a big way, but thinking about service as part of my mission to life. And when I realized that she wanted to make a big difference as well in the world and that she cared about

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You know, how could we as a couple also do something to serve people that either give us something in return or don't? Like, just how can we give and make a difference? And having a partner on my team that wants that same mission, that's when I realized, oh, I'm not going to be the only one thinking about service in a relationship. Because that's tiring as well. It's just you.

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But two people coming together, finding a purpose to serve either your friends, your family, your community, or whatever you can is a beautiful thing. Let me brag on my wife, Zai, for a second.

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And if you're feeling stuck or trapped or overwhelmed in some area of your life, trust me, I know the pain. I've been there for many different years off and on, and it is a journey to creating peace, healing, and wholeness inside of you. And if you are feeling overwhelmed in a relationship

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It's almost like you're taking money out of an account. That you're not depositing in. That you're not depositing in and is running dry maybe. Absolutely.

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Relationship roadmap is what we're talking about today. A couple of final questions for you, but people can follow you. Where's the best place to follow you on social media to see your content and get the book?

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Steven with a PH. This is a question I ask everyone towards the end. It's called the three truths. Imagine a hypothetical scenario. You live as long as you want, but it's your last day on earth. So you're as old as you want to be, but you've got to turn the lights off. Go to the next place. And you've accomplished everything you want in this journey. Your roadmap is complete.

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You got to the destination. Faithful servant. And you're reflecting back on all the memories that you made.

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For whatever reason in this hypothetical scenario, you can't leave anything behind that you've created. This conversation, this book, everything you've shared before is gone. But you get to leave behind three lessons that you've learned. Three truths. What would those three truths be for you?

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That's beautiful. Beautiful truths, man. I want to acknowledge you, Stephen, for this is the first time we've met, but I've heard about you from mutual friends. I've seen your content. I want to acknowledge you for

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your authenticity, because I think a lot of people struggle talking about some of these things, fully authentically owning what they believe, because they're afraid of, like you said, getting in trouble, but it's beautiful to see that you've been living your life on purpose,

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to values you believe in that have been serving you and communities and multiplying the fruit of that value within your relationships, your marriage, your family, your communities, because you live by them. And they may not be for everyone, but they're for you. And I acknowledge you for that authenticity and for sharing your truth here, man. I appreciate it.

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The work you're doing is amazing. Thanks, brother. Final question. What's your definition of greatness?

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Steven, my man. Thanks for being here, brother. I'm grateful. Powerful, man. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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I mean, you could also say, people watching or listening might say, well, I know people that are religious or believe in God or go to church together, but they have miserable marriages. They have challenging relationships. And either they have God at the center or it seems like they do. But why are they divorced? Why are they struggling? Why is there infidelity? Why is there deceit?

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Why is this still happening to these individuals? And I'm sure you've seen people struggle in your church as well.

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Yeah. So you could have God at the center of your life, but lack the skills, the tools, the self-awareness on how to be a good partner. Absolutely. And that's going to hurt a relationship. It will. Every single time. So we need the skills that it sounds like the roadmap. you learn the skills along the way with the roadmap to get you to the destination.

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But what I'm hearing you say also is we should not, unless you're like in high school or something, or it's just like a fling, you shouldn't be getting into a committed relationship unless you see the possibility of wanting to marry.

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I'm sure those people would say that about me too. Absolutely. And it doesn't mean we were bad people and we didn't have good intentions, but if we're not thinking of that in mind, and it's like, it's not a distraction, because I feel like every relationship is also an experience that educates us, that also gives to us, and hopefully we give to the other person.

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If you're feeling like you don't have a good relationship with yourself or with others, then this is going to be a powerful episode because this is all about how to create that beautiful relationship with intention and purpose and how to challenge modern assumptions about relationships.

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But it's just, you're taking a detour still if you're not intending for it to go there. And the longer you stay in that relationship, the longer it takes for you to then find the person you're going to be with.

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And it takes time to heal and kind of let go of that old identity.

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Yeah, and move on. And not think about that person.

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What is the problem with having sex in a relationship before marriage? Oh, it messes your head up.

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Gosh, this is it clouds your judgment so much when you create that chemical bonding, that sexual intimacy. And something that I think about is if you're in a relationship or you're dating someone, if you weren't having sex with them, would you want to spend 10 years with them, 20 years with them if there was no sex? Do you enjoy their company, their conversation? Do you have the similar values?

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If you've been struggling in a relationship, I've had five, six, maybe seven long-term relationships that all struggled for me, that were all hard, that all were up and down, emotional roller coasters, that were all just like, why can't we just make this work? Why is it so challenging? Why is there so much stress and friction and sabotage?

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Are you going in the same direction? And would you want to be with them if that wasn't there, if that was off the table? A lot of people wouldn't.

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They're not going to like to hear that. No, they don't want to hear that, man. Especially in the modern world, people don't want to think about not having sex before marriage because it seems like, what's the point?

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What do you mean by that? What do you mean it makes us decide faster? I think... If we're having it or not having it?

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That's interesting. So if men or women take sex off the table, how much happier do you think they would be in the dating phase or in the relationship phase before marriage?

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My friend, welcome back to another episode of the School of Greatness. I am excited. We have Sonata Greta, who is Kim Kardashian's personal fitness and health trainer. And this is just not another episode about how to start off the new year with healthy habits. This is about how to really rewire your thinking around your body, your health, and your mental fitness all together.

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I'm not talking about 24-hour fasting here and there. long periods of time, what happens to a woman's body?

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How long did it take to kind of gain back your normal hormone function? It was...

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self-love like how much self-love did you have during that season of life and and i don't want to speak for other women or other men who maybe are going through anorexia but where does that typically seem to be or where is that for you did you have a low self-esteem and low level of self-love and then how did you learn to believe in self love self to kind of course correct

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It's challenging for anyone of any type of background, especially if you're in social media at all and you see people posting stuff that just seems like, man, these people have either extreme genetics or they've just figured out the health and wellness hack. And I haven't, right? It's just this kind of, comparison shaming thing that might happen over and over.

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Did you start to have a lot of self-love and self-compassion and see yourself differently to treat yourself differently?

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When did you start to feel like, oh, I've started to got these things under control? My perception of myself.

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And if that's resonating with you, if that speaks to you in any way, then please let me know over on Instagram or anywhere on social media. Let me know if that speaks to you because it's a challenge. I get it. And there almost needs to be a way where you rewire your identity. You shift your identity. And it has taken me years to learn this process.

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Interesting. So for almost a decade, you were like cardio, running, that's a lifestyle. What did your body, I mean, not that we should focus on body image, but what was your What did your body look like in your 20s then when you were in cardio mode, running dead long distances versus weight training, lifting mode?

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And what is the difference that you feel emotionally, spiritually, psychologically between, you know, almost a decade of cardio training mostly versus years of strength training?

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And it doesn't mean I'm perfect all the time, but it has taken me a long time to create a new identity with food, to create a new identity with training, and to do it from a place where I'm not obsessive over needing to look a certain way, but I've set standards for myself and boundaries for myself to set myself up for success. And I think you've got to figure out whatever's best for you.

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Sure. I mean, there's been a huge wave of... research and science and people like Dr. Gabrielle Lyon and Dr. Marie Claire, who are talking about the importance of protein, specifically for women, protein and muscle building for health, for longevity, for also managing kind of the menopause phase of being a woman and just like being able to navigate that with more balance, I guess.

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And it seems like in the last year or two, that has been the primary focus of many female experts speaking to women, like start building muscle. Absolutely. But I don't feel like I ever heard that before because a lot of women don't want to look bulky. They don't want like too strong or too muscular or less feminine.

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So how have you learned to navigate the psychology of you going from what society or what maybe you thought was a more feminine skinnier look for a decade of cardio versus a more strong feminine look in these past years? How have you navigated that when maybe society So a lot of women say, well, I don't want to look bulky or strong.

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You didn't feel that all the time when you were in the cardio world?

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It's endurance. Exactly. You can run long distances and there is strength in endurance.

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There is confidence in that and overcoming hard things, but it's not as strong as muscle.

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The commercial that I remember seeing a lot in the, I guess, 90s on TV was I've fallen and I can't get up Yeah, you see all these like old grandparent grandma grandma on TV who are like I phone and I can't get up because they literally cannot fell over and they can't push themselves off around then I have the muscle strength to just stand up and It's so funny. You don't think about it as a kid.

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In today's episode, her powerful message about building muscle for longevity and mental health, rather than just appearance, is reshaping the conversation around fitness, specifically for women in general, who've always thought about not weight training because it's going to make them look bulky. They don't want to have big arms or big shoulders or things like that.

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You're like, oh yeah, I can get up. But when you're older, if you don't build muscle in your youth, it's going to be so much harder to build it when you're older.

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Do you know any of the research out there about how much harder it is to build muscle after 40, 50, 60 years old versus before?

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You should try to be gaining two pounds of muscle per year?

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That's your ability. Your ability. Like, if you went all in.

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That's if you're training, like, three to five days a week. Hard, heavy, like... I mean...

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And how easy is it to lose muscle? Like if you get sick for a couple weeks or don't train for a month, like how easy is it for a woman in their 40s and 50s to lose muscle?

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So you're fighting that natural, if you're sedentary for your life, you're just going to lose muscle.

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Wow. That's interesting. Have you tracked how much muscle you've gained in the last 10 years?

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They don't want to look too masculine. There are so many different experts we've had on, menopause vet experts as well, who are saying, I wish I would have done more strength training when I was younger. I wish I would have built muscle when I was younger because it helps more than just physical appearance. It helps longevity and mental health. And that's what I think we need to be focused on.

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I guess it's interesting if we think about it like, I don't know, we didn't have scales back in the day, right? There was no scale a couple hundred years ago, I guess, to like weigh yourself. It wasn't a priority, but now everyone's got a scale and they check it every day, a lot of people. What is the, the,

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I guess the negative for a woman who wants to weigh themselves and see a number every single day. What is the downside to weighing yourself for women versus the pro of having that number that they see every day?

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But even then, if you're like you, if the number doesn't hit your expectations, one week of hard work and you're like, I didn't see the results, you actually defeated and then start binge eating.

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And feeling like, ah, what's the point of this? What's the point? I worked so hard.

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I have this. It says a study showed that 88% of people who set New Year's resolutions fail. Even higher.

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How can we have the best mental and emotional health possible? in 2025 and beyond. How can we weather any storm that comes our way? How can we weather relationship challenges, career challenges, family issues? How can we weather political challenges? How can we emotionally and mentally prepare ourselves for any challenge that's to come?

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Yeah, I love what you're saying about this because if everyone could focus on making the goal, making the process the goal as opposed to the results the goal, they would live a better life.

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It's so hard though. I mean, I've been in that, I've probably been on it, I don't know, two year, almost two years ago. I, you know, COVID hit, I was training a lot before then, then COVID and breakup, emotional stress, kind of all that stuff, like just life happened where I gained a lot of weight for myself, right? And I was at like 255 at my heaviest. But just didn't feel good, right?

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I'm 6'4", so I'm a big guy. It doesn't look like obese, but it just didn't feel good, right? And then two years ago, I really got consistent in the training. And I'm down to 225-ish, so I've dropped a lot of weight, but I'm still not where I want to be. But I'm training so hard. And even me, knowing as an athlete that it just takes time.

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but kind of like letting go of the expectation or the goal of like, this is where I want it to be. Yeah, I can still have that vision on my mind But a lot of it is the acknowledgement of showing up and just say, did I do the right thing today? Did I do the right things for my health, for my mind, for my future self today? And the results will eventually come if I keep showing up for me.

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But it can take a while to get the results you want. So I love what you're talking about, make the process the goal, not the result.

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Yeah, I was like 22 and I'm like an elite athlete. Yeah, yeah.

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That's interesting. There seems to be like... I don't know if this is the right terminology, but there seems to be trends with... women's body sizes and types and structures since I was like, you know, I grew up in the 80s and 90s. It was all about being super skinny. Then it was about, you know, curvy and voluptuous. Then it's like, it seems like it's going back to skinny.

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so that we feel more equipped to take on the challenges of life. That's what this is about. And in the process of doing that, of building muscle for longevity and mental health, you're gonna look great naked. And that's fun too. You're gonna look great with your shirt off or naked in the mirror or with your partner. It's like, hey, you're gonna feel more confident.

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Like, it seems like there's these trends in the culture.

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Well, it's interesting because, as you mentioned, when you moved to America, you saw pressure from other teen girls in your school. You saw media, marketing, whatever it might be, campaigns of celebrities that you see look a certain way. But you're also a trainer for Kim Kardashian right now, and you have been for a while.

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And I'm assuming you're around a lot of top celebrities as well in that world. How do you navigate knowing that you're working with a very influential woman that women look up to, women want to look like, women want to, you know, emulate.

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You're about to listen to a very raw and inspiring conversation with Sonata Greca. She immigrated to America as a teenager. She battled eating disorders to become one of the most influential figures in women's strength training.

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Maybe they feel comparison to or a lack of comparison that they can't live up to the way she might look or something like that or just other celebrities in general. How do you navigate, I guess, your work with someone like that while also understanding that there's a 15-year-old out there who was once like you that maybe sees her and wants to be like her?

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And then does that help her, inspire her to eat healthier and train? Or is it like, let me go extreme food deprivation? I don't know. How do you navigate just that in your mind?

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You're gonna feel more secure with yourself because you don't have shame around your body as well. And I want you to feel loved this year and beyond. I want you to feel like you fully accept yourself. I want you to feel like you, you deserve to receive all that you want to receive this year and beyond.

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Because you see Kim leaning into strength training more. Absolutely. That's what you're working with her on. Absolutely.

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I mean, we don't have to speak about her that much, but what have you noticed in, I guess, over a year of strength training with Kim Kardashian about... maybe just confidence levels or things like that. Has anything changed? Because she's been a pretty confident person already. She's got, you know, massive businesses. She's got a lot of success.

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Like, has she shared that, anything you're allowed to share or be noticed something like that or?

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I mean, we're here in L.A., and it seems to be kind of like a hub of extremes here. And specifically with weight loss drugs or these Zempic-type drugs and things like that. And it seems to be it's popular in L.A. I don't know. I don't know if people are on them or not on them. I don't know these things. But...

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I see extreme weight shifts in certain women after a few months and I'm like, maybe that's drug free, maybe that's Ozempic, I have no idea. What's your thoughts on the pros and cons of something like an Ozempic or these weight loss drugs specifically for women?

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And I truly believe that when you just set different standards for yourself and again, not extreme, yo-yo dieting or extreme kind of weird eating disorders, but just standards and boundaries around how you eat and how you move, you're going to feel more in control and responsible for your life. So this episode dives deep into personal growth, overcoming body issue,

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Interesting. Yeah. I mean, yeah. It just seems like a lot of people just have lost weight really quickly is what it seems like. Again, I don't know who's using it or who's not using it. It's hard for me to tell, but it seems like that's what's been happening. And that scares me.

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This is an interesting question I have for you, Sonata. I'm curious. When you know that also women... I don't wanna say all women, but there's a tendency that women may compare themselves to other women. And you have content out there that may seem unattainable for a lot of women, right?

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I don't know if that's what you're hearing or maybe someone said that, but I can only imagine some woman is scrolling who's not healthy or not fit or maybe like not confident in themselves. and they see some of your videos, and they're like, this woman is a superwoman.

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Some women may be really inspired by that and say, awesome, that's an example that I can lean into, and I can follow her programming, and I can maybe one day be like that in my own way. Whereas other women might say, gosh, David, she's too good looking, or she's too fit, or she's too shredded. I could never do that. How do you navigate the...

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Uncertainty that women might have to feel like they'll never be as strong or fit or lean as you or be able to do the workouts the way you do them so effortlessly based on what it may look like for them versus I'm here to empower and inspire women, not show them that they're not enough. How do you navigate that personally?

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I didn't wake up doing that it was just years of practice years of kind of perfecting my craft to be able to do that with this much awareness and attention about who you are now from the last I guess eight years I think you've been on social media that you said like and just the following and the views you get and the attention you get 2019 actually 2019 okay so six years ago

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I mean, it's been, no one knew who you were, and the last six years, a lot of people know who you are. And you're working with one of the biggest celebrities in the world. What has that been like for you, psychologically or emotionally, to deal with, now everyone's critiquing you, whether it be positive or negative, and you're working with big celebrities, how has that been for you as a human?

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It doesn't really... So every million, it's like, okay, just another million. Yeah, yeah.

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And let me know your biggest takeaway from this episode. It would mean a lot to me. Click the follow button over there as well. And again, I'm so grateful for you for being a part of this community with the School of Greatness. And let's dive into this episode right now. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guests.

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When do you start to think about your life of being in service to help others?

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Was that like something earlier in your life or was that in the last six years like I want to start like really adding value and trying to serve people whether it's five people or five million?

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Wow. How long did you feel like you were experiencing depression for or your mental health was struggling?

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We have the inspiring Sonata Greca in the house. So good to see you. And congrats on everything.

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Absolutely. Wow. What do you feel like is your biggest insecurity or fear now? Um...

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I've seen you just kind of like take over the Instagram feed and the Explore page for years of your content of just inspiring and empowering women to see what's possible for their health, their bodies, and really their strength and to show what is possible. You've been an inspiration for so many women around the world. You reach millions of women and and lots of people on a daily basis.

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How do you navigate that? not falling back into an obsessive perfectionist critical state versus progress, consistency, and a healthy balance. When you have that type of older personality, it's like, how do you make sure you don't go into that in extremes with work, body, perfection in a different way?

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What's been the biggest takeaway from that for you, or biggest lessons?

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Do you have a relationship with God or a spiritual practice?

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But it wasn't always that way for you, it seems like. I've read some of your backstory. You deal with some challenges, some anxieties, some depressions, some body issue challenges as well. What would you say were the main challenges you faced either earlier in your life or your teen years before you got into a healthy body image and healthy lifestyle for yourself?

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Where do you think you'd be? Do you think you'd be as happy and healthy if you didn't have a relationship with God or a spiritual practice?

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Did you have a spiritual relationship when you were in your teens and early 20s and struggling with the depression and things?

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That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Yeah. Your parents still around?

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What's the biggest lesson both your mom and your dad taught you?

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And she opens up about her remarkable journey of transformation, the struggles she faced as a teenager in her young twenties to where she is now with physical training, mental training, health and wellness, And as Kim Kardashian's personal trainer and the founder of the We Rise app, she's revolutionizing how women approach fitness by championing strength over aesthetics.

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Wow, that's beautiful. What's the biggest lesson Kim's taught you?

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That's cool. That's cool. You've got an app called the We Rise app. How many women are in this community right now in this app?

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What do they get in the app? What are these women working on?

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Okay, awesome. I'm sure it's in your bio. It's on my bio.

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That's great. What can we do to be of best service to you moving forward with this community or people watching or listening right now?

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And what's the best place to find you on social media? What's your Instagram for people to follow?

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That's true, that's true. Where do you think you'd be if you didn't start putting content online six years ago?

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Wow, that's amazing. So you were doing it on the side. You had a full-time job.

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When did you start to notice that like, oh, this is starting to take off? Like the content I'm posting daily, like, oh, it's actually getting out there and it's resonating with women and.

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So now I've got a couple of final questions for you, but this is powerful. Thanks for sharing and being so open today. I appreciate it. Of course. This is a question I ask everyone towards the end. It's called the three truths. So it's a hypothetical scenario and question. Imagine you get to live as long as you want to live and you get to accomplish every dream you have.

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But for whatever reason, you have to take all of your content with you when you die. So we don't have access to the videos you posted, this interview, it's all gone. Anything you create from this moment moving forward, it's gone. Your app, it's gone for whatever reason, hypothetical. But on the last day of your life, you get to leave behind three lessons to the world.

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And this is all we would have to remember your content by. Call it three truths. What would those be for you?

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Yeah, that's beautiful. Create from love, aim to be the fullest version of you, and treat others with kind of your highest self.

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That's beautiful. I want to acknowledge you, Sonata, for your transformation and your ability to be consistent. And it sounds like... It was very challenging leaving one country, coming to this place and just having to deal with all the pressures of society, of school, of parents, and you needing to be the parent as a teenager. That's a lot of weight emotionally and physically.

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So I want to acknowledge you for overcoming that challenge and overcoming the depression and the sadness and the anxiety and the stress that you faced and for starting to tap into the healthiest version of you and being consistent with that version of you. Letting go of your old comparison ways and stepping into how can I just be my happiest fullest self?

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So I acknowledge you for putting yourself out there Also, you know six years ago deciding to say hey I'm gonna put my content out there and start to serve people the best way I can and if it helps one person or millions of people I'm just gonna do it consistently. So I acknowledge you for for all of it and I Appreciate you for opening up. So honestly during this conversation. I

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It's beautiful. One final question, Sonata. What's your definition of greatness?

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It's beautiful. Sonata, thank you so much for being here. I appreciate it.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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And this is a big challenge for a lot of men and women today. With social media and everyone filtering their photos and just posting six-pack abs or these perfect shapes of bodies, it's hard to not feel empowered. insecure. It's hard to not feel shameful about your own body when you see other people who just seem to have it all put together.

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side effects and what is the side effects of exercise and eating healthy none really it's actually just benefits from it wow so how long you know since you moved to the country um you had this kind of emotional weight that you had to carry with the family also fitting in in school where what state were you living in what city new york upstate new york yeah

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So you're trying to fit into a school in New York, a new culture, different type of, I guess, girls and how they communicate versus what you're used to in Albania. You're also getting into puberty. All these different things are happening all at the same time.

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When did you realize like you had signs of an eating disorder and how long did it take until you were able to break that kind of that habit?

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What do you think is the main cause of body dysmorphia for most people? Is it an emotional trauma? Is it a hypercriticism they get from patients? parents or peers? Is it a pressure from seeing marketing in society that like, oh, I'm not enough and so I need to become like that thing? What is the main cause?

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And it feels like no matter how hard you try, you're never going to get the results you want in your physical aesthetics. I've been there. I've struggled with weight and my nutrition and health and wellness as a

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So is that a common theme that you've heard from other women that have had, you know, an eating disorder or body dysmorphia in the past that they felt out of control? And the way to feel a sense of control is with your body or with foods?

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Because you can't control anything around you, but you can control.

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So how long did it take until you started to, I guess teachers were telling you or peers or friends or family, but when did you start to say, oh yes, this is a problem I need to take care of?

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out really so what was a caloric intake that you would take if you could you know guess And the times where you were at your lowest with body dysmorphia or eating disorder?

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former professional athlete to then just consuming thousands and thousands of excess calories after retiring from playing sports and gaining a lot of weight to then trying to retrain but still eating a ton of calories to being addicted to sugar to all these different things that I've struggled with. It's challenging.

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When a woman thinks, I want to eat less because I want to lose weight today. Maybe they don't have body dysmorphia or anorexia or eating disorder. But they're just thinking, I want to lose weight. And so I'm going to go into extreme calorie deficit. What is happening to a woman's body when they, for long periods of time, do 1,000 calories or less or 500 calories or less a day?

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Welcome back my beautiful friend to the School of Greatness. Today is a blessed day because we get to experience another day of life. We get to have another breath and we get to adventure throughout the world and create the life that we want today. And I know there might be some challenges at universities you're going through.

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Make sure to tag Kerry Washington over on Instagram. Make sure to check out the new movie, Shadow Force, as well. Make sure to let me know your thoughts on this and share it with a friend or two. And without further ado, let's dive into this episode with the one and only Kerry Washington. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest.

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Did you have any resentment or anger once they opened up after four decades of hiding this lie? I did.

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Wow. It must have took a lot of courage for them. Yeah. Because maybe they're thinking, ah, we're never going to say this, but now she's in her 20s. Yeah. Oh, it's, you can't do it now.

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Yeah. Or now your career is taking off. Yes. And then they bring you back down. Yes, exactly. Or it's like, let's let her succeed.

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There's never an easy time to tell the truth when there are hard truths to tell. But you also, I mean, you have kids and so their grandparents as well. So I wonder what that dynamic was like now that they're lying to generations. Yeah. You know, they were lying to generations. It's like, I wonder how, I mean, your father must have gone through so many emotions himself.

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We have the inspiring, the talented Kerry Washington. Good to see you. Hi.

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And they were trying to protect you and they loved you and they wanted to keep you guys together. Yeah. It was part of their journey. Yeah. He must have let go of a huge weight.

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Like, does he seem lighter and younger, just like emotionally?

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Yeah. Our mutual friend, Gabby Bernstein, was texting us this morning saying they were excited that we're coming on together. Yeah. I've been researching more about you lately, obviously, knowing that you were coming on. Yeah. I've seen your talented career as an actor, as a writer, director, all these different things. But hearing your spiritual journey is what really excites me.

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I can relate to that. I mean, you've heard me talk about opening up about sexual abuse. And I held on to the lie or the story for 25 years. Because I thought if anyone knows this, shame about me. No one will love me. No one will accept me. People will think I'm less than. Whatever it might be. I won't be enough. It goes back to that feeling.

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He probably felt like he would die because everything would be taken away. Everything, emotionally, spiritually, physically.

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And what you were just talking about before we started rolling is that you're very excited about your new movie, Shadow Force, which is coming out in a few days after this launches. And you said the reason you're excited about it is because after your memoir, you started to fully open up about your truth, about all the different lessons, the pain, the tragic moments of your childhood, and the...

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Gosh, that's so cool. Yeah, we're talking about spiritual partnership is something I've heard you say before. Yeah. When you met your man, how did you know that you guys were building a spiritual partnership and connecting from a spiritual space, even though you had this kind of You know, you had a great relationship with your parents, but there was something missing still with your father.

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How did you learn to trust your intuition in relationship when you had a broken partial relationship? Fractured. Such a good question. You know, relationship with your dad. How did you trust your intuition? Yeah. with the man you have now?

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How did you guys create that commitment then from something bigger? What did you talk about? And when things are tough, because you're talking about Shadow Force where The role, the father in the movie, he's kind of taking on the father role and taking care of the kid with you kind of running away and escaping or whatever.

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You know, I'm not saying this is a parallel to your life, but there are times where you're really busy. You're on set all day, 10, 12 hour days for months at a time where I'm assuming you have to have extra support or your husband's taking the lead in certain areas of parenting. Yeah. I'm making assumptions here, but correct me if I'm wrong, where he has to step up as well.

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How did you guys communicate the alignment with your guys' careers, separating ego, because I know he's very successful in what he's done in the past as well and what he's doing now. How do you separate ego and make spirit and love the center when each one of you are evolving in career as well? Yeah.

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the stressful things that you dealt with, the anxiety, the kind of sexual stuff that happened when you were younger that you opened up about with your book, your father opening up and sharing this kind of lie that was held onto for a long time. So much that I've researched about you is fascinating because you now get to step fully into your truth, into a character and embody ultimate power.

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That is beautiful. I'm so glad you said this because I haven't heard a lot of people in your position talk about therapy and marriage. And one of the things that Martha, my wife and I committed to her earlier. Congrats on your marriage.

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It's so weird. I have to say it because first it was girlfriend, then it was fiance. It's like, okay, I'm getting used to wife.

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I'm still stepping into it, but it's been a great experience. But one of the things when we were dating, not exclusively, before we became committed exclusively, we were having an amazing time. But there was still some like little fear or anxiety or worry about getting fully committed because in every previous relationship I was in, it all ended badly in therapy. Yeah.

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Yes. And I always wanted to get into therapy sooner, but the partners I chose resisted therapy. And I was always thinking, what woman would not want a man to go to therapy with them? So I was always like, what world am I living in right now? But I kept repeating this cycle.

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Yes. And I said... I want to start... If we're going to get committed, because we're having an amazing time, I want to start in therapy.

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And so we started right away within the first few months. It's so smart. Not because something was wrong.

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Exactly. And it's been the greatest gift that we've given each other because... In the first year, we just went and we got alignment. We got spiritual alignment. And a shared language. Shared language. We got to talk about past fears or future concerns up front. We got to address all the things that we were afraid of and come together and be like, oh, we're teammates. We're building a team.

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That's right. We're investing in courageous conversations. We're allowing for imperfections in both of us. No one needs to be perfect.

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And we're stepping into a process of unity and alignment around shared values and a shared vision together.

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And so I'm curious, And we'll dive into some of this after opening up and starting to heal a lot of these things from your past.

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And I'm so glad that you're here because this show, and specifically this interview, is all about healing from childhood trauma, cultivating a spiritual connection, and coming home to yourself. That's what Kerry Washington opens up about today.

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How did it feel filming Shadow Force and stepping into fully who you are? How did that process feel in that character?

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Wow. Would you say therapy has helped you not only in your, I guess, marriage and your family dynamic relationships, but also in your career and stepping into owning your power and your worth? even though you're excelling and succeeding so much, do you still have any doubts or insecurities? Yes. Really?

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What type of, for someone watching and listening who maybe is really struggling and they don't have much going on in their life or they just feel like things are just keep knocking them down. Their career isn't working the way they want to. They don't feel like they're living in love. They don't feel like they're living their dreams or in the pursuit of their dreams.

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They feel like relationships are kind of off and they really lack self-worth. What advice would you give them, for anyone watching or listening who might be in that space, on how to start the process of truly loving and accepting yourself, even when you feel really low?

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Yeah. When you're stepping into a role, like you are in the new movie, um, Is there any moment you're feeling insecure at this season? Every single time.

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I mean, you've played all these personalities and characters and roles. Yeah. How do you not get lost in characters and roles and stay true to who your real character is in life?

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And I've heard you also talk about how the best character you've ever played is mother and wife. Yeah. So how do you not allow... all the films and TV characters you played to seep into your true essence, your true personality, your true role that you are.

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Until when? How old were you when you felt like, oh, I'm good with me?

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Can you give me an example with the new movie and Shadow Force? Sure. How you thought about that?

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Because I feel like all of us have some type of darkness in us. Yeah. And so do you feel like you have to tap into that sometimes?

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What's the tools or process for letting go of the character when you get home?

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Because it's like a psychological process of becoming a different person. Yeah.

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I feel like you've really had to train your nervous system to always come back home to safety. Because you're playing these characters and obviously it's make believe or character or it's movie making.

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And your adrenaline is heightened. It's in fear or it's in aggression or it's in shooting or whatever it's in, or it's in make believe, love, whatever it is. And so your nervous system in your body You have to psychologically remove it somehow and get back to the spiritual alignment of your character and life.

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Do you feel like you've had a new relationship with little Carrie?

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With the girl inside of you that was growing up kind of going through this, everything looks good on the outside or, you know, I'm taken care of. But emotionally, I don't feel taken care of.

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But emotionally or maybe psychologically, there was a... fracture. And so you didn't feel safe fully. How have you repaired that relationship with little Carrie and allowing her to feel safe the way you were by putting your hands on your belly with your baby when she was going through the emotional uncertainty?

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Which for those that don't know, it's internal family systems. And so what has been the breakthrough or the self-awareness you've created in the process of internal family systems work for yourself?

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What was it in that moment for you? What was your soul feeling where you say I'm feeling fat, but really was it the not enoughness? Was it fear? Was it anxiousness?

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Interesting. But you said before you played, you know, obviously a lot of characters and roles before. And I don't think anyone ever felt like you weren't embodying your most authentic self. Yeah. I mean, you were crushing it in all these roles. Winning awards and just at the top of your game. But was there something missing inside that was different from the past? Yeah.

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Yeah, how to navigate it. Yeah, navigate it. When you feel unlovable or not enough, is it not feeling lovable or enough with people on the outside of you or not feeling lovable within you?

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I've got a couple of final minutes with you, Carrie. This has been really powerful. Two final questions for you. Before I ask those final questions, your new movie is out very soon once this is released.

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Take your family out. Yes. watch shadow force and make sure afterwards you reveal all your dirty secrets within your family and you open yourselves up so you can be emotionally free as well.

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Physically and emotionally. Absolutely. I'm excited for people to go watch it. Shout out for us. Two final questions for you. This is a hypothetical question I ask everyone. I've been doing the show for 12 years. Congratulations. Every week for 12 years. Wow. And this is a question I ask people at the end. It's called the three truths. Imagine a hypothetical scenario.

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You get to live as long as you want to live, but it's your last day on earth and you get to accomplish and create all of life's magic. But for whatever reason, everything you've created has to go with you. Your movies, your TV, this interview, books, anything you create is gone. So we don't have your information or your content anymore.

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But on the last day, you get to leave behind three lessons to the world. Three truths that you would share from your experiences of what you've learned. What would those three lessons or truths be for you?

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I love those. If you could go 10 years in the future and give yourself one piece of advice today and carry 10 years in the future as looking at you

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Yeah, if you could imagine where you'll be in 10 years, imagine where your family will be, your career will be, and all the things, the challenges, the ups and downs you're going to face in the next decade. What do you think your future self is? would tell you to set you up for success emotionally, spiritually, physically, financially in the next decade?

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Yeah. Don't miss the moment. That's beautiful. That's some good advice from future Carrie. I got to get you out of here. Final question before I ask you, Carrie, I want to acknowledge you for a moment for your healing journey.

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for the journey of allowing yourself to feel safe again, for allowing yourself to heal, for allowing yourself to have a beautiful relationship with your family, your extended family, your current family, and to allow yourself to really be a star in your life. and create the career you want, but also create the privacy, the safety, and the love you want personally.

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So I acknowledge you for all of it. It's really cool to connect and get to meet you. And hopefully we'll get you back on in the future with the next big movie and stuff. But this is an amazing starting conversation. I'm so glad you were open and shared. And this is gonna help heal a lot of people. So I appreciate you.

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And she really shares how this revelation transformed her family relationships and allowed her to finally heal and understand the disconnect she felt growing up. So if you felt like something's been off in your life, you're really going to want to hear the first part of this episode that talks about how she was able to come home to herself, even when she was succeeding at the highest levels.

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Of course. Yeah. My final question. What's your definition of greatness?

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Powerful. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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I think there was some interview where you talked about, or maybe it was in your memoir where you talked about in college, being on your knees, kind of going through anxiety and stress and overwhelmed where you were starring in the plays and you, you know, looked like you had it all put together on the outside, but the inside you were dealing with anxiety and a lot of other things that were just happening and you're on your knees praying and you didn't,

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And I think it was, you didn't really feel like you had a spiritual connection at that moment, but that opened up a spiritual channel.

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Is this like starving or it's just this like... So, you know what?

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And as she prepares for a new action film, Shadow Force, Carrie explains how stepping fully into her authentic truth has allowed her to embody physical power in a way she never could before. It's so interesting when we are out of alignment in some areas of our life. We can still accomplish and succeed and achieve all these things, but something deep down may feel off.

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That's what I was going to ask you. Can you achieve greatness and feel enough at the same time?

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And Carrie dives in deep about why therapy has been essential to her journey and how it helps her navigate both her career and personal life, her approach to marriage as a spiritual partnership, and the importance of couples therapy, even when things are going well. So many other inspiring topics in this conversation. I really hope you enjoy this one.

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When did you start to feel like you were enough? Was it before the lie was revealed or after the lie was revealed?

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Now, do you feel like before that truth was revealed that you were able to fully relax into your relationship with your parents? Even though they were loving to you and supported you and encouraged you? No. You don't feel like you were able to? No.

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Did you ever ask them like, Hey guys, what's going on? Like in your twenties and thirties, like, is there something off? Are you guys not sharing something with me?

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If you've ever been worried about how certain activities in your life, how they might be affecting your brain and how it might be causing long-term damage in the future, then this is the episode for you because we have a powerful conversation with neuroscientist and author T.J. Power, who is revealing some eye-opening information around the brain and

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So you could have a lot of dopamine hits throughout the day, but still feel numb.

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What are the things that cause the most pain and suffering in a human based on neuroscience? Is it the addiction to pornography, the addiction to alcohol, drugs, vaping, or social media? Out of that list. What hurts a human being and their brain and their mood and their energy the most?

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I've been deep in this work for 12 years, and I'm constantly looking for the best experts to just give me that little edge to continue to either remind me of what I need to keep doing or Or give me a new tool to unlock what I can do at this season of life where maybe I haven't faced this challenge yet. So we're all on this journey together. I hope you're gaining value out of this.

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What is harder to break, alcohol, pornography, or phone addiction? That's such a good question. What's been the hardest for you?

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Yeah, you smell the grass and you'd be like, okay, what are they doing? Yeah.

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Do you feel like it's got the greatest high in our brain chemistry over short-form videos, vaping, and alcohol?

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And again, I hope to see you on my book tour. That's right. I'm going on tour here March 15th through March 25th. 10 days, seven cities all around the country for the Make Money Easy book tour. And if you're looking to create financial freedom and live a richer life and really unlock abundance, then make sure to pre-order a copy of my new book right now.

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Interesting. And what happens when you have a false sense of procreation on a consistent basis through pornography?

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That's interesting. How hard is it going to be for society to stop engaging in pornography? Puff. Because it seems like it's just everywhere, especially with young men, right? It's part of the culture. It seems like it's accessible. I'm assuming there's a lot of shame still, but it's more acceptable, I guess, for younger men. I don't know what it's like. I don't think that's part of it.

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Because you're in your late 20s, right? Late 20s. So what are men in their teens and 20s that you work with, what are they saying about it?

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Get a ticket over at lewishouse.com slash tour to come see me live as I would love to see you, your family, your friends. at one of the book stops, and we'll be doing a live taping of the School of Greatness show as well with some big surprise special guests. So go to lewishouse.com slash tour right now to get your book, to get a ticket to the book tour as well.

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And it's important. As a neuroscientist, what is the best way, what is the best evening routine to set you up to have the most productive next day?

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You could at least get away from- Make yourself dinner or whatever it might be, like do an activity, right?

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Without further ado, let's dive into this episode right now. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring TJ Power in the house. Good to see you, sir, and thank you for being here, man. Thanks for having me. Very excited about this. You've got a lot of incredible content online. You're a neuroscientist.

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It's not a quick scrolling. At least you're engaging in a storytelling or something slower, hopefully, right?

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TV is so boring now. It's too slow. So it's like, let me scroll and watch. Yeah.

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Like this is too slow of a movie where like most people, it's their top 10 movie of all time. It's like...

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What is the benefit of having strategic boredom time every single day?

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You've got a book called The Dose Effect, which is about small habits to boost your brain chemistry. And the first thing I asked you off-camera was, what is the biggest struggle that humanity is really faced with right now in this season of life? And you said ADHD. The lack of attention to really life and being able to be present, focused on their lives, being distracted a lot.

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So as a neuroscientist, then what is the greatest morning routine to get our dopamine in check?

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how our modern lifestyle is disrupting it, and the chemistry in the brain and what we can do about it.

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What do you think is the main cause of ADHD right now? And also what is the superpower that people with ADHD have if they lean into it?

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Wow. Okay. So do something effortful will actually help your dopamine levels in the morning.

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As opposed to something that gives you quick dopamine right away.

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Yeah, and I think it's something that I've been doing for a long time. And I noticed you did in your book, which I really like, is at the beginning of every chapter, it's kind of like you have an assessment from one to 10. And I always ask the scale from one to 10, how much joy, fulfillment, happiness, peace are you feeling right now?

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If it's a five, you've got to evaluate every area of your life that's causing you to feel... You know, under an eight. Now, why am I at a lower level energies? Why do I feel depression? Why do I feel sadness? Why do I feel hurt, anxious, scared? Why? You have to look at that. You have to take an assessment, a personal assessment and start saying, okay, well, let me look at every part of my day.

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Maybe i'm eating all day. Maybe i'm just having sugar. Maybe i'm drinking alcohol. Maybe i'm watching porn. Maybe i'm Disconnecting on my phone all day. You just have to assess it not make it good or bad right or wrong You just have to assess it and say is this serving me feeling better? Is it helping me is the quick service of making me feel high?

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Helping me feel overall better every single day definitely and You may not like the answer and it's going to be really hard to change and make different choices every single day to support you in going from a three, four, or five on the scale of one to 10 to a six, seven, eight. And it's going to be challenging. But like you said, And Jocko Willink says, you know, discipline equals freedom.

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And if we want to feel free, we've got to create our own boundaries and discipline in our life. And I went to a private boarding school for five years. So I lived in a dorm and we had to wake up at 6 a.m. We had an hour of Bible study. Then we had to make our bed, clean our room. Then we had someone come and check and score us based on the cleanliness of a room.

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So it was like an accountability scoring and there was discipline if we did not clean our rooms at the end of the week. It was a dress code. It wasn't a military school, but it was like a Christian, like strict school. So we had a dress code. You would get like suspended if you didn't wear a belt or if your hair got too long or if you had facial hair, like all these things.

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And it felt restrictive, right? It felt like, ah, you want to rebel against this. But it's so interesting, like the more I got into it, the more I appreciated and respected it years into it. Because I was like, wow, it's actually helping me accomplish my goals. I actually can focus my energy towards my sports goals.

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And that discipline, those boundaries gave me focused attention to becoming better at my goals. And I would see results. And I was like, oh, okay. Now, I still was like, ah, it'd be nice to be a sloppy every now and then, right? Which I rebelled after school. It was like, I'm never cleaning my bed. And I'm like, whatever. I'm not picking up after myself. I'll wear whatever I want. Screw you guys.

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But then something switched in my mid-20s to late 20s. I was like, man, I'm feeling like I'm staying up really late, working hard nonstop. Like I'm getting certain results, but I'm gaining a lot of weight. I'm not feeling good. My mood is down. Let me try this discipline thing again.

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I started going to bed early. I started waking up and making my bed every single day. It was a non-negotiable. Every day, make my bed in my late 20s and 30s.

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And I was like, oh man, dang it. There is something to this make your bed thing.

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Like there is something like just getting up and doing something you don't want to do. Yeah. Even if it takes two minutes, like I don't want to do it. But you're like, oh, I look at it. Oh, I just accomplished this thing. And I'm pretty proud of like how I made my bed look. Let me go like brush my teeth and organize my bathroom and make that look clean. Right. Okay. Let me do the next.

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Let me like put a nice shirt on and like do my hair and like, okay. Like I'm feeling good about myself as opposed to quick dopamine hits or lazy laziness.

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And that discipline started to create more freedom in my life and started to create more self-love, self-worth, appreciation of self and be like, oh, okay, I can do these things. And look what I created. When I come home at night, I can appreciate the work I put in in the morning. Oh, I have a nice bed to open up and go into, right? It's like, thank you, you know.

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10 hours ago, for putting in the work to create an environment of peace at night, as opposed to chaos and messiness. And it created a viral loop of positivity and gratitude and peace and harmony. And it didn't make everything perfect, but that discipline actually created a lot more freedom than people think.

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Very addictive. And it's very hard to break the addiction of pleasure.

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Really? Yeah. It's like making that your addiction.

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Wow. What's the biggest struggle you face today as a neuroscientist personally? with all the research and information you have, what's the hardest thing for you still to manage?

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How do you navigate in your brain chemistry if results are going down, if you're not getting the growth that you've seen in the past for a period of time or financially you're not making as much or the following isn't working or something is changing? How do you navigate that in your brain?

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If someone feels like they can't focus, maybe they've been diagnosed with ADHD or maybe they feel like, maybe I have it, maybe I don't, but I just know something's off energetically and I can't stay focused or I feel a little more depressive at times. Is there... a positive side to having ADHD? Is there a benefit to having it if someone's able to learn how to harness their ADHD?

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What does the research in neuroscience talk about when someone has a relationship with God versus not having a relationship with God?

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We're going to be talking about the shocking truth about how social media affects your brain chemistry, similar to addictive substances, why quick dopamine activities make you feel increasingly numb to life's real pleasures and what those pleasures are, and also a practical three times daily method to to break phone addiction that actually works when nothing else does.

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This is interesting because you have a whole program called the Dose, is it the Dose Method? The Dose Effect. Dose Effect, which is kind of like a curriculum to help people get their dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, endorphins in a healthy balance, I would say, right? Is that what it is? Like a healthier balance of those things?

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What is each one? Dopamine equals what?

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And if they're all off, if you have the ability to focus on regulating dopamine, will all the others start to rebalance?

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You talked about, what is endorphins again?

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Yeah. And you said if you have low endorphin levels, there's four causes of low endorphins. The first cause is a lack of hard physical exercise. The second key cause is a sedentary lifestyle, which is kind of like a complication of that. Third is... a lack of laughter. And the fourth is a final cause is chronic stress, constantly just being in stress all day long.

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It's interesting because this is just most of society, I feel like. Most people don't have a hard sense of physical exercise every day. They want to have a more relaxed lifestyle, more sedentary lifestyle. And those two things are interconnected. That's half of the causes of low endorphins, not having a physical exertion exercise routine. uh, sitting all day or laying all day.

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And, and I think the third one is actually really interesting because I was asking someone this morning, I was texting with someone this morning. It's the, I was saying, what are the biggest lessons of the year for you? And they were sharing their big lessons. One of them was actually stress is like learning how to minimize stress because they had some physical problems occur from chronic stress.

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And as I was telling them, they were like, what's one of your lessons? They were asking me in return, what's one of your lessons? And I was like, bringing joy back into everything. And I think the antidote of stress is laughter and joy. It's like, okay, this is a stressful moment or season or things are struggling right now.

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But how do I just find ways to bring play into my day, even for like five, 10 minutes? How do I bring joy, play? And I'm not talking about bringing laughter in every sad, sensitive moment. Yeah. Being, you know, having a lack of like awareness of the moment. For sure. Bringing it into your life. Having playful moments when you can. Having fun. Just whatever you can to laugh. It's important.

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It is massive. And the research is showing that as well based on what you have in your book. So I think that's really interesting, these four causes.

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Wow. This is powerful, man. I'm excited about this book and all the things that you're creating. Make sure you guys pick up a copy of The Dose Effect, Small Habits to Boost Your Brain Chemistry by TJ Power. Powerful research, content and information to support you improving the quality of your life. I've got a couple of final questions for you, TJ.

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But before I ask them, where can people go to follow you and support you beyond the book as well?

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Check all that out. I love it, man. Um, I want to acknowledge you, TJ, for your courage to talk openly today. I think I felt something in your heart that you wanted to share more of this stuff, so I'm glad you were able to talk about it openly.

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And I'm glad that you, as a neuroscientist, have also tapped into the spiritual laws of the universe to support you in your constant personal growth, healing,

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eliminating certain distractions or addictive habits that might not serve you and finding something to replace that can serve you and your mission and a greater level so i acknowledge you for it's probably not easy being in your mid-20s and not being easy at any age but in your mid-20s when your your peers of that age are pushing against the thing that you're leaning into yeah it's

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and are normalizing addictive behaviors that don't support you for quick dopamine. And that's been how you were raised through culture, society, communities, things like that. So for you to go against the grain and lean in the curiosity to find more peace and harmony within yourself, I acknowledge you for that and for opening up about it and starting to talk about it.

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And I hope to see it in some of your content as well in the future. Um, this question I ask everyone towards the end, it's called the three truths. Imagine a hypothetical scenario. You get to live as long as you want, but it's your last day on earth. You get to create and accomplish everything that you dream of. But for whatever reason on this last day, you have to take all of your work with you.

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It can't stay in this world. Your books are gone. Your content it's erased. This conversation's gone. Everything's gone. But in the last day, you get to leave three truths behind, three things you know to be true from all of your experiences and the lessons you would leave behind to others. This is all we would have of your content. What would be those three truths for you?

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It's beautiful, man. I love those. And TJ, what's your definition of greatness?

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Hopefully it wasn't too boring for you.

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TJ Power, my man. Thanks for being here, brother. Thank you for having me. Powerful. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you wanna make it easier, you wanna make it flow, you wanna feel abundant, then make sure to go to MakeMoneyEasyBook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is gonna help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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It's interesting because I relate to that. I mean, I just hated school. I was just like, get me out of here. Watching the clock all day long, like hoping for the bell to ring. It just felt like it took forever. And anything the teacher said, I just feel like I have no idea what they're saying. And I can't comprehend. And reading, I have to reread the page over and over again.

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I still don't understand. And just feeling defeated every day in class. Like, I'm never going to get this stuff. Me too. And because it was so hard and I wasn't excited about it, I checked out. I had a lack of attention. But once I found something that I was excited about, it was hard, but it gave me more of a purpose. I'm excited about this.

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I'm willing to do the hard work because I'm seeing improvement. I'm learning something. I'm liking what I'm learning. I'm seeing results. Something's exciting. And I have a goal or a dream that I can work towards that excites me. So I was able to use that energy or that lack of energy I had from school and put it towards sports, most likely. And eventually evolve into what I'm doing now.

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So it was figuring out a way to use that lack of attention and feeling of ADHD into, well, find something you're curious about. It may be hard to learn how to do it, but at least you're curious enough and have the excitement enough to go work on it over and over again until you get better at it. Definitely. And it made me kind of obsessive on mastering things that I was curious about.

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There's so much scientifically-backed information in this episode that I believe you are going to love this. And please share this with one friend. If you know anyone who might be struggling with kind of like brain fog or just feels like their mood has been kind of, well, moody off and on consistently and they haven't figured out how to unlock that feeling

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Like you said, becoming the best hunter-gatherer or whatever. It's like, okay, I suck at everything else and I have no attention for these things, but this one thing is really exciting. Let me go all in. And it's like, now I have hyper-focus and super attention to detail for these things. So it's interesting how that... you know, kryptonite, you can turn it into a superpower.

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I was like, man, who's your designer? I like that.

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Wow, that's interesting, man. Now, what are the... What are the things that are causing us the most amount of lack of energy, low mood, and a struggle to focus? What is the things that's causing that the most for our society?

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What is a healthy relationship with social media?

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pure, present energy throughout daily life, and they just feel like they're kind of been stuck or like trapped in a brain fog, then make sure to send this to that friend and say, Hey, I'm thinking about you. And there's some powerful insights in here that can support you and ask them to share their biggest takeaway with you in this episode.

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Wow. As a neuroscience based on science and research, what is the benefit of delayed gratification, of creating boundaries or barriers to either check your phone or do something that's going to create gratification for you versus having instant gratification whenever you want of that thing?

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This show, The School of Greatness, is all about supporting each other, this community of individuals who've been listening for over 12 years. It's all about supporting each other and just improving the things where we feel stuck or we feel challenged with. And in no way have I figured everything out in life.

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There are two big things happening at one time that I've never done before. I'm going on a book tour for my new book, Make Money Easy, and I'm doing a podcast tour at the same time. It is going to be big and I'm going to seven cities in 10 days. Get your friends, get your family, bring everyone you know to these cities. I'm coming to Austin, Texas, New York, Boston. We're going to Nashville.

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Unless I show up at 9 because I get paid at 9.

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He's going to share intimate details about his journey, including a powerful story on how hitting rock bottom led him to rediscover his faith and joy. There are so many moments where Robert had to pause and think and really reflect about the questions and the conversation we were talking about because he hadn't. been asked some of these questions ever.

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I mean, those two, I guess, mentors and people you worked for, they both have billion dollar brands now, right? Multiple billion dollar brands? Yes. That's kind of rare that when you're in your teens, early 20s, you randomly, how do you, is it a random thing or do you just know, oh, this guy could be something one day? That's pretty impressive. I just... You could have worked anywhere.

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I could have worked anywhere. You could have worked at a local restaurant or a barbershop that wouldn't have been this mega-billion-dollar business, but you worked for these two jobs.

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Interesting. So you've, the lie I've been telling yourself is you've made it. but what is making it? When have you made it? If someone looks at you or watches this and they're like, if Robert doesn't think he's made it with all the money he has, all the success from multiple industries, from TV to personal brand to social media, everything you touch has blown up.

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If he doesn't think he's made it, I have no chance of making it. That's such a great question because you think about that.

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So it was fun to have this conversation with him where a lot of these individuals who are on TV or doing a lot of interviews, usually get asked the same questions. But as you guys know, I like to go off script a lot and ask things that I'm feeling based on how someone's energy is, how their heart is, and how our connection is before the interview actually starts.

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You have a series on social media that's about the lessons you've learned from billionaires. And you've been around a lot of billionaires. And people can go on your Instagram and TikTok and YouTube and watch all these videos. I think they're really interesting lessons. But if you could share the top three lessons you've learned from billionaires, what would those three lessons be?

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And he reveals game-changing insights about the difference between hard work and smart work, why real wealth requires more than just passion, and how to maintain joy while pursuing ambitious goals. He's shared so many cool stories right off the bat that I think you're really going to love. So make sure to take notes. Share this with one friend.

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Here's a question for you that I think a lot of people, because I have a lot of fit people in my audience, a lot of fitness professionals and people in the health and wellness industry, who struggle at making money. They're really good at taking care of their health and they're jacked or they're fit or they eat all the right foods, but they haven't unlocked how to create financial abundance.

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So if someone is healthy physically, emotionally, spiritually, but financially hasn't cracked that code yet, what is missing from them to create that financial abundance?

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I think because they're used to be following the rules and taking orders probably and saying, what do I need to do to make sure that my... boss is happy and staying in line with the team. That's part of it.

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Because you can't break the military mold of how things are done. This is the way it's done. We're not going to change because you have a different opinion about how to run our unit. So I said the same thing.

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Just copy and paste the link on Apple or Spotify and share it with a friend. and if you're looking to really create a path to peace freedom and financial abundance i am going on tour very soon that's right i'm doing a book tour and podcast tour merged into one to one epic seven city 10-day tour around America.

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Interesting. Have you ever had a point in your life where you tied your self-worth with your net worth? Wow.

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But yeah, I think in my 20s, I was very... How does someone today not tie their self-worth with their net worth? Maybe they're not making a lot of money right now. How do they not let it affect their identity or their core of who they are and the way they feel about themselves because they're not making $100,000 or millions or these things? Well, I...

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And if you haven't got your tickets yet, go to lewishouse.com slash tour right now while you're listening to this episode. You can just click the link in the description of this podcast episode while you're listening. Open it up and see what city I am coming to because we are going to have massive names that I'm going to do a live interview on stage at each city and

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Now, here's an interesting thing I think everyone needs to pay attention to and and be mindful of what you're about to say. Because I think what you're about to say from this question I ask you is going to break everyone's minds open. Because a lot of people are thinking, I work 15, 18, 20 hour days already and for years I've been working hard at a job.

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And I'm not getting the exponential growth I'd like. Barely making incremental growth. And I don't see a way, I can't work any harder to create more wealth for myself. What is the thing that you learned then in that moment about hard work versus creating wealth?

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Because yes, you need to work hard, but what is the thing that broke you open from saying, I'm going to work a different way that's going to unlock wealth? That's such a great question.

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And you do not want to miss who I'm going to have. Some of them I might announce. Some of them are going to be big surprises. So go to lewishouse.com slash tour. If you want to have an evening of greatness with a community of like-minded individuals who want to continually elevate their mind and their power in their purpose every single day.

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So what did you learn from going to hard work to smart work to create more financial abundance? Value.

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If you want to be around that type of a community, go to lewishouse.com slash tour and get your tickets now. Bring your friends, bring the whole family. It's going to be a party, a celebration. We've got a book tour. We've got a podcast tour all in one. Get ready for an evening of greatness at lewishouse.com slash tour.

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Can you give an example of what that slogan or line of marketing material might look like or if someone's speaking about it to a potential customer? You're not selling tech or cyber technology, right? Or cybersecurity software or tech. What are you then selling?

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And again, I am very excited and I appreciate all of you who are supporting on this journey of greatness. And again, big thank you to everyone who is just showing up for yourselves as well. during these episodes, taking this information in, diving in deep, sharing with your friends. I appreciate you. I am grateful for you. And you deserve great things in your life.

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Then we're going to Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Francisco. Make sure to get your tickets right now. Go to lewishouse.com slash tour. Again, bring everyone you know. If you're looking to create more financial freedom and abundance in your life, and you want to see a massive guest live on the School of Greatness show, Get your tickets. I can't wait to see you there.

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That's beautiful. Yeah, especially like in a whole tech world, like how can you humanize it or make a feeling come from that type of a product or a service? where it may not seem like it's supposed to make it.

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This has been fascinating, Robert. I'm so glad you're opening up. I've got a handful of questions left for you. There's so many things I would like to talk about, but there's a few things I want to make sure we get to. One is faith. How much has...

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faith in god or in religion or in the universe played in your life from childhood to now and how much do you put awareness around your faith and also into what you're going to create for the future of your life

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What was the season of time where you were feeling that was a rough season for you? 2014.

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Is this emotionally? Is this like alcohol or drugs? Or is this just like, you know, panic attacks? Is this just anxiety, depression?

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Being in service for a month to the homeless in that city.

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17 years on Shark Tank. We have many mutual friends that... that you're buddies with that I've had on the show as well. And you just have an inspiring story and an inspiring life. And I'm glad we got to connect a little bit before this because...

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how does someone learn to know they are valuable? Like, you got to a place where you were broken, right? You were broken, but you had, I don't know, hundreds of millions of dollars, private jet, you had success, you're on TV, you're doing these things that people would dream of having.

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How does someone learn to know that they are valuable, whether they have lots of money or don't have lots of money?

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You've been inspiring young and old entrepreneurs for many years to learn about how to grow their business, how to launch a product, how to package and position their product. And, I mean, your story is pretty fascinating because you're an immigrant. You're an immigrant family. I think you came to Canada when you were eight. Mm-hmm. But you didn't have anything. Your dad didn't have any money.

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Why do you think so many people tie wealthy people with stingy, mean people? And why do they, you know, a lot of people will say, you know, they want wealth, but they're also afraid of wealth because they've seen how some people who are super wealthy maybe treat people poorly or are angry or whatever it might be, or stingy, not generous with their wealth.

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If you could go back a year before 2014, a decade back, a year before you're about to go through your darkness, the sadness, the depression, the divorce, the horrible feelings you're feeling.

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And if you were who you are now, and you could speak to that younger version of you 11 years earlier, and only gave him three pieces of advice, with everything you know he was about to go through, what three things would you say to that version of you right before you went through your darkest times?

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You guys were living in extreme poverty. So how do you learn to go from, I guess, a poverty situation and turn it into an abundance mindset? When does that learn switch for you of like, we're in poverty, whether you knew it or not, but you had a poverty mindset, or maybe you didn't, but you're experiencing poverty. When does that switch on to abundance of wealth mindset? It's a great question.

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That's beautiful. Again, there's a lot of things I'd love to ask you, but I want to be respectful of our time, Robert. I have two final questions for you before I ask them.

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I want people to follow you on all of our social media and your YouTube because you, in the last few months, have been starting to share these stories that I don't feel like people have been able to see unless they watch Shark Tank. And they edit that stuff down into 30-second moments, and there's six of you, and so they don't get all of you.

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But the wisdom you're sharing here, I feel like it's just scratching the surface about what you've been sharing online. So I want people to follow you on YouTube. I want people to follow you on Instagram. It's your name. We'll have it all linked up. But how else can we be of service or support to you today?

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Cool. This question I ask everyone, there's two final questions. This one is called the three truths. Imagine you get to live as long as you want to live in this world, but it's your last day eventually in the future. And you get to create and accomplish all of your dreams from this moment until that last day.

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But on this last day, for whatever reason, hypothetically, you've got to take all of your content with you. So all of your social media content, this interview, your books that you've written, it's all gone. So no one has access to your information anymore.

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But on the last day, you get to leave behind three truths, three things you know to be true, kind of the three lessons you leave behind for everyone. And that's all we would have to remember your content by.

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Millions of people. Millions of people. Before I ask the final question, Robert, I want to acknowledge you for the joy you brought today. Oh, thank you. I think there's... You know, I think a lot of people can learn from you, not from the lessons you share, but by the energy you bring. And I've heard the word joy and written it down and highlighted it multiple times from this conversation.

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And for me, that's what I feel like what you embody is joy. And I believe it's probably one of the main reasons you've been successful in your TV career, in your business career, is because you've brought the joy consistently.

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maybe i need to be more miserable because mark is pretty miserable and he's worth more money than i am no i'm joking yeah but is he living a fulfilled life you know probably you're like dang it he can wear whatever he wants yeah but i want to acknowledge you for for you know overcoming the pain and creating great perspective and i feel like you're living a life of extreme purpose by sharing your knowledge now in a bigger way i know we talked off camera about how

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you know, is it even worth doing this social media stuff? And it's like, I can't really quantify, like, is there money here? You know, is there opportunities for business? You never know how much of an impact you can make on someone when you share a story. And you are incredible at sharing stories, whether it be on TV, here, but also in your social media.

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And the people will remember the feeling of the stories you share for a long time. And so I acknowledge you for diving into this chapter, whether you do it for years or a few more months of social media. But sharing your knowledge for free is an incredible gift that you're giving to the world. And I acknowledge you for that. And I acknowledge you for bringing the joy when you share. Thank you.

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Of course. My final question, Robert, what's your definition of greatness? Wow.

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I'm trying to see if it's different than what I had a couple of years ago. For me, it is to discover your unique talents and gifts that you've been given and pursue those gifts to live your dreams. And in the pursuit of those dreams, make the maximum impact on the people around you. Wow. Yeah. Because we've all been given different talents and gifts that we need to learn to cultivate.

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And then we are, I think we're given cues, feelings of what dreams we might have. There's a curiosity. There's something that pulls us into an idea for a potential dream. Something. Whether it's God or an intuition or a feeling that's pulling us or making us think about something. I'd like to create that. I'd like to build that. I'd like to overcome that. I'd like to help this thing.

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I'd like to make this thing. Something that pulls us. And then we need to cultivate the talents and gifts within us to pursue that dream. And in that pursuit, I think it's doesn't have to be changing the world, but it needs to be changing the world around you, impacting the world in a positive way around you. And if that's five people, your family, that's beautiful.

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So I think that's what your mom and dad did. They impacted you and the people in their community because that was their reach. And you've been given different gifts and talents that you've cultivated and maximized to this level. And you feel like you've got to maximize more to the next level. And in that pursuit of the new dream, how will you impact people around you?

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The people closest to you, but also the platform you've been building, how will you impact those individuals as well?

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We have, I mean, we have some similarities in life. I mean, obviously you're much more successful than me, but when I was sleeping on my sister's couch, I would watch that show. Dancing with the Sturgs. And I was like, I was living in Columbus, Ohio, and I was like broke, and I was like, but I loved to salsa dance.

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I started learning how to salsa dance after our, you know, when I was on my sister's couch. This is one of the things I was talking about beforehand. I learned public speaking and salsa dancing because they were big fears of mine. And so I'd watch this show and I traveled the world eventually salsa dancing in clubs, like social salsa dancing, not ballroom. Not joking you.

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For like 18 years I've been traveling the world. You must be the biggest salsa dancer in the world. Biggest gringo salsa dancer ever, right? And I remember thinking, gosh, I wanted to be amazing to be on the show one day. I wasn't famous, you know, I had no money, but I was like, you need to become famous in order to get on this show.

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And that was like, since I've been in LA for 12 years, I've always wanted to be on that show. I've always wanted to be on the show. So maybe one day I'll fulfill that as well. I'll introduce you to their producers. Do the cats, right? Yeah, exactly. I've met her. I've tried to pitch and stuff myself. I'm there. Many years I've tried. I mean, obviously, greatest experience I've ever had.

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And the hardest experience. I can imagine. People don't realize how hard it is. Eight hours a day of training and the whole thing. I know a lot of the dancers as well, and they're friends of mine. I love the show. It's a great experience. But one day, maybe I'll be there. If it's still on air, maybe I'll make it one day.

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Exactly. Robert, this has been powerful. I appreciate you so much for coming on. Appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you. Amazing. Thank you so much for listening to this episode. If you enjoyed this and if you found value, make sure to share this with one friend. Just copy and paste the link and text a friend where you feel would be truly inspired by this episode as well.

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And also make sure to click the follow button on Apple or Spotify wherever you're listening to this episode because we have a massive episode coming up next that I do not want you to miss. So make sure to follow this and be inspired on the lookout for the next episode coming with some massive content and guests. Also, I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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Welcome back, my friend, to the School of Greatness. If you are like me and you love business and entrepreneurship, if you love how to turn creative ideas in your mind into a reality, into the physical world, to be of service to other people, then this is going to be the episode for you. And for years... years, I have been watching a show called Shark Tank.

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Wow. So what is a poverty or poor mindset versus a wealth or abundance mindset? What do they both encompass?

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I just had to get out of the situation. So how do you learn then to get out of a situation of, I guess, poverty or not having a lot? How do you learn? Is it a skill? Is it a shift of energy? Is it a shift in thinking that allows you to get out of that situation? Is it a shift of I need to act in a different way? I need to become something different in order to create abundance?

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What does that shift look like? Yeah, that's a great question too. And how old were you when you were like, okay, I'm not poor personally, but I'm in an environment that isn't thriving.

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And we've interviewed many of the sharks on this podcast over the years, some of my friends who we've had on here, who have helped invest in small entrepreneurs and business owners for years on Shark Tank and also just inspired people through educating and informing them how to really grow a business.

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Do you feel like you've gotten out of that cycle at this season of your life? Because now as you start to generate wealth, you're around people that have a million dollars, then a hundred million dollars, then billions. And you're like... Do you find yourselves kind of still in that at some times?

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Right. So when was that switch then for you? You're 12, you start to become aware that, okay, we're moving around, but I'm still in this poor environment compared to everyone else around me. Was it an energy shift, a thinking shift, or an action shift that allowed you to say, I'm now creating abundance in my life? Yeah, that's a great question.

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And today I get to interview Robert Herjavec, who I've always been inspired by he's kind of like one of the nicest sharks, it seems like on Shark Tank. And I've always been inspired by his insight and his generosity. And he is a powerful business leader, entrepreneur. And today we're talking about how to explore the deeper dimensions of building wealth and living a life of purpose.

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So what did you start learning to support you from going to poor to abundance mindset?

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What was the first lesson you learned in sales or the first sale you ever made in life?

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True alignment happens when we stop running from our darkness and start embracing all the parts of ourselves. Welcome back, my friend, to another episode of the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest today.

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What is it your soul really needed?

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You're spiritually bankrupt.

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And what were you running from?

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And the more successful you became, or the more in the spotlight, or the bigger the audience.

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Of course. Like, let's do another movie, another TV project.

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and allow alignment to come into alignment. Sometimes when we're in chaos or overwhelm or stress, we don't have the moment or just a moment to reflect to get back into alignment because we don't allow alignment inside of us because we're constantly reactive. So get to a place of calm, get to a place of understanding.

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Um, gosh, that's interesting.

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The more successful you became, you also felt more struggles piled on top of that.

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How did you function on set or in projects when you were numbing out at night every night?

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I was going to say your nervous system seems like more safe.

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And you're probably, you know, you're really great at eye contact, but it sounds like three years ago, you wouldn't have been able to do this.

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We've got Lucy Hale, who is going to really open up and share in a big way about her personal experience of hitting rock bottom a few years ago and how it led to a spiritual awakening that transformed her relationship with herself and became a turning point towards sobriety and her healing journey. And I want to remind you that we are all on our own journey.

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Because of the shame of someone seeing through you. And I can relate to that growing up, dealing with sexual abuse as a kid. I felt ashamed because I never told anyone for 25 years.

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That if people really knew this about me, no one would love or accept me.

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and so I was in the let me perform let me achieve let me you know be great at something in sports or whatever yeah to mask the pain when did you start talking about that 12 years ago and did it feel like you could finally be yourself when you could no I felt like I was gonna die like I felt like it felt like I had to say it yeah finally but that my life is over because you thought people would

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I just thought no one would accept me, people would make fun of me, people would judge me. Yeah, I mean, but it actually, the, you know, the... the pain, the trauma, once I started to process and heal and started to share, it became more of a superpower to be able to connect and empathize and understand people and be more relatable to other people who'd been through something similar.

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But I thought it was going to ruin my business and my life and no one would ever date me and all these things. It was like, everyone's going to make fun of me.

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And just be present in this moment because you deserve to feel peace and abundance. It is your birthright, but it's not going to be handed to you if you're not willing to do the work to create that inner alignment on your journey. And trust me, I have gone through so many ups and downs in my life where I felt like, is there ever going to be any peace? Is there ever going to be any freedom?

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Yeah, one of the scariest things is being your most authentic self and people not accepting you. But one of the most beautiful things is being your most authentic self and everyone accepting you for who you are. It makes me emotional thinking about it because I think it's what we all want, acceptance. We want to feel seen and acknowledged for the human being we are.

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And when we have shame, guilt, insecurities, not enoughness, unworthiness inside of us, then we wanna hide and protect those things inside of us that are afraid from other people seeing that. Or we overperform or we people please or we do things to not create boundaries of authenticity to try to be accepted within groups in society.

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And we become a different person, a different version that is not truly us, authentically us. And all we really want is to be accepted and seen for who we really all are even all the mess and scary parts inside of us. And it sounds like you were masking that for a long time.

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You're taking some stuff to the grave.

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But you don't need to share everything with the world also.

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Yeah. And then something that just came up for me is like, yeah, we don't need everyone else to like us as long as we like us. And it sounds like for 15 plus years, again, correct me if I'm wrong, you had 10, 20, 30 million followers who loved and liked you, but you didn't like you.

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So what's the point of having hundreds of millions of followers adore you if you can't love you?

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Is there ever going to be any abundance when I'm feeling fear, when I'm feeling scarce, when I'm feeling overwhelmed? And I'm telling you, it is possible that you've got to be willing to go within you. And there is some big moments in today's episode. Lucy talks about why external success and validation couldn't fix her feelings of unworthiness and shame. And she's a massive superstar.

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It's better than alcohol or eating disorder or something.

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sure sure but let me have my diet coats exactly there's a quote that you shared um that i want to uh talk about and you said this i made the choice on the morning of january 2nd 2022 that i was going to do everything i could to get sober i knew that if i continued on the path i would have lost everything i cared about it was the scariest choice in my life but also it's been the best gift

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When I made the change, everything else changed. My whole life has changed. And again, we were talking about how this is like little over three years now on the journey of being sober. But really what it sounds like, the journey of committing to being in alignment with yourself.

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And when we step into alignment and allow our nervous system to heal, we don't need these things to make us feel better. We don't need extremisms of alcohol on the weekends or extreme foods or whatever it might be to feel peace.

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Yeah. You mentioned that when you were growing up, you felt connected to God. You would speak about God. You felt connected. You were either listening from a place of openness to God. And then it sounds like when you got to LA and you started getting into the industry, you kind of either blocked God away from you or just focused on the material world more rather than the spiritual world.

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It sounds to me like as you started to heal the little girl inside of you, and reclaim the version of you, that little child inside of you that had that wonder and possibility and pure light and joy. It sounds like you've gotten closer to God in your own version.

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What has that journey been like for you, reconnecting to God and reconnecting to little Lucy inside of you that was really a channel of spiritual joy?

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She's got millions of followers. And the external success didn't validate her feelings that she really needed to feel. And it wasn't until she went through her own journey, which she's about to talk about in this interview and episode, where she started to learn how to create that peace and come back to herself. And you deserve to come back to you.

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Why did you think you made it your burden to carry?

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When did you move out here?

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Yeah. You really grew up young.

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But you feel like it was amplified here though, maybe?

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There's something you mentioned earlier. You you talk about, you know, whenever I saw I see you resharing some of the stuff on here, specifically about manifesting or with Dr. Joe Dispenza and kind of these different topics. I'm his biggest fan. Yeah. I don't know if you've been to one of his events yet.

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He came and spoke at Summit of Greatness last year here in LA. If I'd have known you, I'd have had you come out, but next time.

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But it sounds like You said earlier that when you were a kid, you were just dreaming and manifesting coming to LA and having this career and getting these opportunities. And it sounded like you had a pure channel to God to be able to manifest your dreams and really go for it.

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The true essence of you is love, is peace, is joy, is freedom, is creativity. And you can't do that from a place of scarcity, stress, or overwhelm. So I hope you enjoy this episode. Whatever you're going through in life right now, you deserve to live a free, harmonic, abundant life.

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Well, here's the interesting thing because you manifested your dreams as a kid when it seems like you had more possibilities in your mind and you were, I guess, closer to God or having a different relationship with God. But then when you were in LA and you started to go down a darker path, inner journey, externally, you kept manifesting still.

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You had opportunities and money and audience growth and it's like gig after gig. So what's the difference between manifesting from a pure connection to God versus manifesting from a darkness and a disconnection from God?

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But you've got to be willing to do the work and sometimes that's facing the darkness, facing the demons and not numbing them or running away from them like so many of us have done over the years. I know I did it for a long time and I lived in a lot of pain The more I ran away from it, the more I chased other things to try to fill me up.

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Once you get familiar with how it all works, it's fun to... You mentioned something earlier about you felt like you were a victim for a long time. You were living in victim energy. Obviously, you were creating stuff and from the outside, people didn't see your failures. Even though you had three shows that didn't extend after the first season or didn't get picked up after the pilot or whatever.

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But everyone else on the outside is seeing you win, except for maybe close industry friends hearing about something. Yeah, exactly. Whatever. Like, oh, it didn't work out for me. But it sounded like you were living in a victim energy inside of you.

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And it's because you weren't feeling worthy or deserving of the success or like I've already received too much success and I shouldn't have received that much anyways. When did you start to shift out of victim and unworthiness energy into, hero or main character energy. Yeah, I love that. And into I am deserving and worthy of all the blessings that come to my life. Yeah.

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How did you shift that energy from I'm undeserving to deserving?

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So you're blaming who? Like managers or agents or like studios or?

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It never worked until I turned around, faced myself, and started giving myself what I needed to feel peace. And again, if you're enjoying this at any moment, please share this with a friend. Text one or two friends and let them know that you heard this amazing episode with Lucy Hale on the School of Greatness. And you want to hear their thoughts about it.

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Or were you saying like, oh, this girl got it because of some other reason or what?

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And if you're working all the time, you don't have time to sit.

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So what were your thoughts like on repeat for two decades before you started to change your thinking?

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you want to have a conversation about it and see what they learned about it as well. So send it to a few friends. Make sure to tag me, Lewis Howes, and tag Lucy Hale over on social media while you're listening or watching this episode. And I'm very excited for us to jive in together. So let's go ahead and jump in with the one and only Lucy Hale. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness.

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Not screaming and reacting and like, get away from me. But actually like, you know what you just did? Like that doesn't work for me. Yeah. And I want to let you know, maybe I'm misinterpreting something, but I need to have distance from you for a while or I need to create this boundary.

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But like actually having the courage to disappoint someone and have someone not like you in order to create safety within you is one of the hardest things to do.

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You don't need everyone to like you anymore. Yeah. And you can just be yourself. Yeah. It doesn't mean you want to like try to piss everyone off.

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That's great. Another quote you have talking about this whole journey. This was on, I think, um, a three-year anniversary post after getting sober. You wrote this on Instagram. It said, I began my journey in remembering who I am. Since then, I've experienced moments that can only be described as pure miracles and magic.

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What are a few of those moments in the last three years since being sober that have been miracles and magic for you?

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Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Lucy Hale in the house. So good to see you.

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You just didn't know any day you could be just something wild or crazy?

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We have been. For a while. We have been.

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Do you feel like you were kind and patient with others?

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That was most of my life Yes, like yeah trying to fit in or trying to make people happy especially in intimacy. Yeah It was like I was I felt whenever I was single I was so joyful and I felt like I could be my authentic self yeah, and then six months after getting into relationship or nine months and for whatever reason, I would choose people out of a wound. I'm not making these people wrong.

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This is the right timing. And I think whoever's watching or listening right now is going to, this is going to help so many people, no matter what they're going through or how they're challenged in their life right now. Because you have an amazing story. You've been in the public eye for the last, I guess, 15, 20 years almost. You've had a massive career, millions of followers, tons of success.

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I would choose them out of a wound where they never accepted who I fully was. And they wanted me to change to make them feel safer or more comfortable or whatever. And then I would change to please them. And then I resent myself. I resent them. I resent the relationship. But I was like, I'm going to try to do whatever it takes to make it work.

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And then I couldn't get out of the relationship because I was like, I invested all this time. And then it was like a cycle.

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And then I was just like, I almost had a similar wake up call where it's just like, I can't live like this. I've repeated this five, six, seven times now over like 15 years or something. And I've got to look within. I've got to do some healing work. I've got to create boundaries in a conscious way. I've got to learn how to say no. I've got to learn to not people please. All these things.

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So it was about four and a half years ago when I started the healing journey for myself and a different level. I started healing 12 years ago around sexual abuse. Yeah. But then four and a half years ago around intimacy and relationship.

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Around the people pleasing. And that's when everything started to change for me. Talk about miracles and magic. I mean, it's like I would not be able to create a sense of peace inside of me without doing that healing work. And I know you talked about healing the inner child for about a year during my healing journey, I had a photo on my phone of my eight year old self, right?

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And so every moment I looked at my phone, I was reminded to reclaim

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the boy inside of me and to say you know what i'm like he was screaming at me through eczema or through chest palpitations through like pain in my chest or feeling like someone's choking me it's like the boy inside of me was saying take care of me yeah trying to get your attention stop neglecting me and recreate that integrated healing of oneness of all the parts of me

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And it wasn't until I started to really heal the little boy in me and turn around and face myself and the darkness and the wounds and start integrating. That's when the pain left my body.

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So you see a little girl, a little boy who's hurt or sad.

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What did you learn about little Lucy when you started doing inner child healing? What did you learn about what she needed most that you were neglecting for her to receive?

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But for a long time, you had a lot of sadness and darkness inside of you. And you were numbing yourself to try to overcome the insecurities that you were facing, even though you were in the limelight and had everyone turning to you saying, wow, you're amazing or you're talented or beautiful or whatever it is. but you had these kind of insecurities inside of you that I've heard you talk about.

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When did you start stop blaming everyone?

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I, and how does it feel? I mean, cause almost when you're blaming others, you're a victim to what they did.

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And three years ago, you talked about as a moment that was almost rock bottom for you or was rock bottom for you. And I've heard you talk about this openly, but how can someone hit rock bottom a few years ago after so much success and so much fame and so much attention? What does that feel like internally

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Yeah, it's tough because once you've, I guess, started to heal and get out of, and really take full responsibility for everything and create meaning from the past pain, not saying it's okay what things happened to you, but say, okay, this did happen and I can either be a victim to it or I can create meaning from it and see how I can be empowered from it.

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Not excuse people's behaviors or whatever or actions, but no such a meaning That's what I was gonna say like with your experience.

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Yeah. Well, I can either stay in victimhood and let that anger fuel me, which I did for a long time. And it created results out of anger and out of frustration and resentment and feeling abused and taken advantage of. So I was driven to prove people wrong. Wow. And it got results. Anger is probably the second most powerful fuel in the world. It will get you what you want. So true.

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If you might be struggling, you might be going through adversity, you might be uncertain about the future, whether it be a relationship or your career path or some business you're working on. But I want to give you this daily affirmation. And that is, when my mind drifts to fear or lack, Please remind me that abundance is always available to me.

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But you won't feel the way you want to feel once you get the results. You're not going to feel it. Love.

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you're not going to feel peace you're not going to feel alignment because you did everything out of anger revenge proving yeah you know i'm going to show them i'm going to do something as opposed to i'm going to show up for the greatest version of me and live an empowered life to serve and inspire people around me yeah and really step into the version of me that i'm most

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excited about that wants me to become something greater and i think when we can step into that energy of like this is a goal and a dream because it's going to help and serve others in the pursuit of this dream it's just a fuel that is more renewable and it feels more peaceful yeah

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You've got to learn through the ladder.

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Because you can only live in anger for so long. Like it's not sustainable. Well, and anger causes so many... Disease and cancer and frustration and hurt and you react in different ways that you're like, I wish I didn't say that. You have to repair a lot more from anger.

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And you're kind of like blowing through relationships and burning bridges. You're just like, ah, you know. And so you can get results, but is it going to be a rewarding life?

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And I think the true reward comes from healing and feeling whole while you create. It doesn't mean you can't tap into the darkness or tap into the memories of the pain, but I think living in that space is very painful.

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And how do you decide to start making changes so you don't feel like you're at the bottom, even when everyone else seems like you are on top?

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Transforming it, transmuting it.

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Yeah, it doesn't mean I'm going to be perfect every day. I'm going to have frustration and anger. But it's like, how can I get back to a place of love and peace and calm and really alignment?

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And not stay in victimhood for too long.

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Now, how do you navigate? I mean, we don't have to talk about this if you don't want to, but how do you navigate?

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It doesn't have to be about intimacy, but... When you start to heal, knowing what I've gone through in my past relationship journey of getting into relationships out of a wound versus getting into or being open to relationships out of wholeness or the journey of wholeness, How have you reflected on that when you think about previous relationships? And I don't know your dating history.

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That's not what this is about.

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It's not really about who you're dating or who you're not or whatever. It's like, how do you navigate... your vision for a relationship that you want and creating that in your mind, daydreaming again in your mind about the type of relationship you want, intimately or personally or professionally, and creating from that space a vision

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around values and around a person who's also on a healing journey or who's got growth mindset, not in victimhood or not being attracted to people who have shiny objects about them, but more attracted to their spiritual alignment. Have you thought about that in terms of working relationships, but also intimate relationships?

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What are those values you look for then with someone that could be an intimate partner or a professional relationship? What are the values that they need to embody for you to feel like this is alignment of just being in relationship with you?

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It's interesting when I, transparency is so, is so key and I really think it's just pure honesty. Like everything you say is an honest thing and you're being authentic to the moment. And when I started, you know, when Martha and I, my wife started dating, she was asking me like very, you know, just honest, real questions from the beginning. And I go, are you sure you want to hear the answers?

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Because people usually don't like certain answers of past stuff I've been through or whatever it might be. Yeah. And she goes, yeah, I always want to hear the truth. I go, okay, well, I'm going to tell you the truth about everything you asked me then. So be ready.

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But we'll see how you react. If you react where you're like hurt or upset or like, angry about something in my past, then it doesn't work for me. Like you have to be willing to receive and accept all of me in my past. It doesn't mean that's like what I'm doing now, but it's like, you gotta understand all the complexities of me.

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And she was, and so from the beginning, I was just like, you sure you want the answer? She was like, yes. And I would tell her the answer to any question And she was really great at not reacting with like negative or positive, just like, thank you for being honest. Even if it was like hard for her to hear something, she was like, thank you. And she didn't scream or react or run away or anything.

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And I think when you can be fully transparent with one another, your word becomes powerful and you can trust the person.

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But when you're not transparent and you're hiding even little lies here and there,

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It adds up. And then you're living like two different lives. Yeah. You know the truth inside of you, but you know you're not sharing that fully with the person in front of you.

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What are the things you do for yourself on a daily basis to create emotional safety for you?

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So I try to stay curious. Yeah. What about, I mean, I think that's beautiful. And playfulness is I think the key to staying young. Yes. Being playful. And you hear a lot of actors. who are like, it doesn't seem like they age. And I feel like it's because you get to play all day. You're like playing character and you're playing fun and you're the role playing.

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And it's just like a yes and mentality. It's not a block. It's more of like, let me keep trying. Let me keep exploring.

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What is, you know, I keep hearing you talk about, you know, your spiritual practice. Do you hear messages from God? What does God speak to you on a consistent basis? What are you hearing God say?

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What happens if you get goosebumps on the right side?

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Alignment. Off the rails. Yeah. Kind of just like, all right. Maybe it was small to start, but then it was like, what age do you feel like, okay, I wasn't in that pure light consciousness as much anymore. I was starting to like be more in the material world, not the spiritual world or get into the dark side a little bit more internally.

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If you don't have the right influences or environment around you, you could easily sway into other influences.

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Was this just alcohol or drugs and alcohol or just?

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And was there any like eating behaviors or?

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And so like two extremes, like during the week I'm counting calories and assessing about what I'm eating. And then on the weekend I'm drinking whatever and eating whatever as a kind of a release.

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What do you think that is? Is that more of just like trying to fit in in school or is that more the stress from home life? Control.

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It's a false reward. Yes. And then you still don't feel like, you still have the shame inside of you. You still have the unworthiness, the not lovable, or you don't love yourself.

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God, it's so, this is so interesting. I talk about this in my book, actually, where it's like money doesn't solve all your problems or neither does fame or all these different things. They don't solve, they might solve money problems that didn't solve self-worth problems.

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Here's the thing it does. I was broke on my sister's couch for a year and a half. And then I started to make some money after building a business. And it took a number of years. I started to make some money. I was eventually on my own. And I saved enough money where I was financially free for a couple of years. I could live and not work for a couple of years, and I had enough money.

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I wasn't like balling for life. But I could live under my means and be fine for a couple of years. And I'd worked so hard to create this financial freedom, but I still didn't feel emotionally free. And so I remember it was almost worse than being broke and emotionally broken because you think the job or the followers or the money is going to make you feel more free or more lovable or more enough.

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And it almost expands your level of unworthiness.

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And you can actually celebrate those moments.

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I've never celebrated my success.

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Like when I would accomplish my goals after like 10 years of going for it, I'd be like, okay, what's next? I know. Like we got to go bigger. I know. Let's take a moment. This is something I love about my wife. She's all about celebrating the moment. That's such a great quality. Like any little or big like success. Yeah. She's like, we got to go to dinner. We got to have a weekend celebrate.

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Let's take a trip. And I have to get used to celebrating.

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But I think that celebration energy is good because it allows you to reflect on how hard you worked, whether it was three months on a project or three years.

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It's like, man, look how far you've come. We can celebrate a small win and a big win with equal amount of reflection.

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It doesn't need to throw yourself a massive party.

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But you can go out and have dinner or go on a trip or whatever it might be and just say, man, I did it or we did it or... wow, let's talk about all the memories from what we created together. She's really great at creating that. I mean, she's Mexican and Mexicans celebrate every birthday party. It's like everything's a celebration.

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If you could go back 20 years to Lucy that had this dream that made it to LA and then booked the gig and then all these things start happening. If you could go back 20 years and you could sit across from Lucy of 15,

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what piece of advice would you give her knowing all the emotional uncertainty that you were experiencing in that time, the lack of emotional safety that you had, maybe the stresses you had at home, whatever it was going through, we don't have to talk about, but what advice would you give yourself 20 years ago before you started to break into the industry and have the success and fame that you had, what would you say to her?

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Yeah. It's beautiful to be in.

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And what if Lucy, again, this hypothetical scenario, you're having this conversation with your 15 year old self. What if she looked back at you when you said this to her and she said to you, but how do I feel worthy? I hear you saying you are deserving and worthy, but I don't feel it. How do I believe I'm worthy?

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Especially your younger self.

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She's like, I don't believe you. I don't believe you because I don't feel it. Like, how would you get through to yourself 20 years ago to believe you were worthy of all of this?

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That's why I'm asking you the question.

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I think it would... I literally just thought of this in the moment.

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Because... Well, here's what I would say. I'll answer that in a second. But...

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imagine there's a, you know, 18, 23 year old, 28 year old watching who is like just been driving and maybe they've had some emotional challenges in their life and they are like hooked on the edge of the seat listening to this or watching this because they can truly relate to what you've gone through and they really look up to you and see the career you've had and now they can relate to you

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and say, oh, but she's actually been through a lot that I can relate to personally. What would you say to that 18, 23, 28 year old watching or listening who doesn't believe they're worthy? How would you try to get through to them?

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Yeah. And I would, as I'm hearing you say this, I'm thinking about what would I say to myself?

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yeah from all these i mean because i lived in a lot of shame i lived in a lot of insecurity and again my parents got divorced when i was i don't know 15 or 16 but they probably should have been divorced when i was five because it was like chaos it was emotionally unsafe at home yeah i left home at 13 to go to a private boarding school that I found and begged my parents to send me away for months.

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They did not want me to leave. So I left the 13 to create a sense of safety, essentially to run away. Because I didn't feel emotionally safe. I knew my parents loved me, but they didn't love each other. And so there was always dis-ease within them. And therefore, I felt the energy of their stress. And that caused a lot of emotional instability inside of me.

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And so when you have, you know, parents dynamics, sibling dynamics that are whatever, friend dynamics, bullying at school, whatever it might be, it's hard because you're in an environment where you don't feel lovable, you don't feel seen, you feel taken advantage of or neglected or abused or whatever it might be.

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And I felt like I needed to get out of that environment to create a sense of freshness, newness, safety. But I still had the traumas that I carried with me into a new environment. But everything you were talking about makes sense to me. And it's probably what I would say to myself is one, if you want to feel worthy, you have to live in full integrity every day.

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And you have to be willing to disappoint people with your integrity, meaning you got to be honest with people and they may not want to be friends with you.

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And they may speak bad about you behind your back. They may gossip about you. They may do mean things to you. And so you're going to, you may cause frustration or emotional instability outside of you, but it's never worth doing that inside of you to create peace externally.

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And I was like, that's a heavy hitter.

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And I was the opposite. I disappointed myself first in order to try to not disappoint everyone around me. And it caused so much pain inside of me and resentment and anger and frustration because I felt like other people weren't showing up for me the way I was for them, like you said.

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And I think prayer is something you've said two or three times. I think I would have told myself to stay in prayer, even if I'm not getting the answers. Because I think I would lean towards pleasure to try to remove pain from my life. Yeah. So I would seek pleasures to feel better and try to numb certain pains. Yeah. And I think sticking with prayer, even just a few minutes a day. Yeah.

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even if I don't get the answers I need or I'm looking for, or if it takes longer to like find the answers, like stay consistent with prayer, stay in high integrity with myself, even if it means disappointing people around me, especially my parents, like doing those things. That's scary though when you're younger. You don't want to disappoint your parents. So it's learning how to, it's a challenge.

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A couple of final questions for you, Lucy. This has been powerful. Thanks for opening up. This has been great.

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Well, luckily it's recorded so you can watch it back.

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Couple of other questions. What is a limiting belief? Let me think about this. If you go 10 years in the future, We already had a conversation with your 15, 16 year old self.

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20 years back. If you could think 10 years in the future of the woman you're going to become over the next 10 years and all the lessons, the growth, the awareness you're bringing into yourself and into the world. What is the one piece of advice your 10 year old self in the future will give you in this moment that will help you overcome any limiting belief you might have right now?

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Um, does that mean in expressing yourself or like using your voice or doing certain projects that maybe aren't populated or whatever?

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What would you say to your 10 years in the future? I would say, um, For whatever reason, for me, it's like, I don't want to regret not going for my dreams, like when I'm older. I don't want to regret saying, you could have gone for it, but you were afraid. You played it safe.

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Remind me that I am supported, provided for, and surrounded by endless possibilities waiting to unfold. Help me to see the blessings already in my life and to welcome even more with an open heart. Let today be a reflection of trust, gratitude, and the abundant life I am meant to live. Again, you are meant to live it.

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Now, I don't want to neglect responsibilities in my life as well. So it's like, can I fully go for my dreams and show up for my wife and my future family and all these different things? But I don't want to be 60 or 70 or 80 and say, gosh, you're afraid. You're afraid to go for it. And it doesn't mean I'm going to accomplish every dream.

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But I don't want to just look back and think, I didn't even try out of fear. So it's similar to what you're thinking, like be willing to go for it. And I feel like I'm living that. I'm doing these things that are scary. But I just don't want to live with regret of not going for it.

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Like accomplishing is a different thing, but not going forward, I can't live with.

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So yeah, that's my thought.

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And everything for me is, you know, it's different. Whereas when I was younger, I wanted to, my dreams were about accomplishing things for me.

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And now my dreams are about pursuing the things that I feel called to do that may have accomplishment tied to it, but doing it in service of others and the boy in me that has a dream.

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And letting go of the need to be looked at, or the accomplishment, or the award, or the success, and people praising me for that. More of like... just being inspired by the journey. And if the results come great.

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But it's like making a difference, making an impact and serving people in an empowering way is the ultimate path forward.

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What is the thing you think your, you know, 45 year old self will be most proud of that Lucy did over the next 10 years?

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Here's a question for you then.

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What is the biggest dragon you're going to need to slay in the future?

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That your mind is training for now. What is the biggest thing you're going to need to overcome and conquer in the future that your mind has been preparing you for that you're going to say, do I take this call to adventure? Do I take on the dragon? Do I go on this journey? Or do I stay comfortable at this new place that I'm in? This new comfort zone. Yeah.

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You're a public figure. You've got millions of followers. You're on TV or movies. You're visible.

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It's not your authentic voice.

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And getting backlash for your true authentic voice or something.

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This has been powerful. I don't want to take too much more time. I've got two final questions. Before I ask them, I know you've got a lot of projects going on. I think you posted something on Netflix or one of these platforms recently. You've got lots of projects happening. Can you share what you're working on, what you're excited about?

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That's beautiful. So all these projects, some are coming out soon, some coming out later.

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But if we follow you or Lucy Hale on Instagram, is that the best place to be up to date?

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Awesome. This is two questions I ask everyone at the end. This is called the three truths. We've already hypothetically gone into the past and into the future, but another hypothetical scenario. Imagine you step into this next book and then many more books you write in your life. And you get to write all the books you want, literally and metaphysically, I guess, as well.

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But at some point, you can no longer write any more books and your story ends in this earth. Many years in the future.

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So imagine you get to live your life, accomplish all your dreams, learn all the lessons, but it's the last day on earth for you, far in the future. And for whatever reason, on this last day, you have to take all of your work with you. Every movie, every project, every podcast interview, anything that's ever been said, written, or produced by you, gone.

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But on the last day, you get to leave behind three final truths. Three lessons that you know to be true from your experiences that you would leave with the world. And that's all we have to remember you by.

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What would those three truths be for you?

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Just your life. What would you want to leave behind? What would you want to leave behind as lessons to the world? Things that you would say, here's what I learned and here's what I share as my lessons.

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You didn't have like a near death experience or like?

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Three, three lessons you would leave behind.

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Your height is good. That's beautiful. Yeah. Lucy, before I ask the final question, I want to acknowledge you for your journey. Thank you. Of getting into alignment for yourself, of working on healing your nervous system. And I know it's a constant journey, but it sounds like it was two decades of a lot of emotional uncertainty.

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With all the success and the fame and the money and the attention, you felt, it sounds like inside of you, you were still emotionally out of alignment.

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And so I want to acknowledge you for waking up for yourself and getting into alignment and feeling that sense of peace in your nervous system and healing. Because I only know that this next book you write in the world is going to serve people in such an empowering way.

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So I'm so excited to see what the journey is for you and how you show up in full service to yourself and to others and starting to bring your voice to the world. I think you putting your voice out more and sharing more of this is going to only help more of your audience or anyone else that doesn't know about you and care more about these things.

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So I acknowledge you for the journey that you've overcome, the journey you're on and the journey you're going to be on. And I'm excited to put this out there as well for the world to hear.

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Final question, Lucy, what's your definition of greatness?

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That's it. Lucy, thanks for being here. Appreciate you.

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I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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What did you try? Was it like therapy and ayahuasca? Like I tried spiritual retreats and meditation, kind of all these things.

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But sometimes the darkness, the challenges, the adversities make us feel like we're drowning in stress, drowning in chaos, drowning in drama. And sometimes we have to break apart from the chaos, from the drama, from the stress, Find some stillness. Literally, get still. Turn off devices. Turn off the TV. Turn off the noise. And just be still. Sit outside. Breathe. Be still.

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So how long were you using alcohol then to numb the pain or to numb the lack of ability to create boundaries in your life or speak up or really kind of like own your power?

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You've never been drunk. I've never been drunk in my life.

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Is there any benefit to drinking?

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Cause I've never been drunk.

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What really needs, if rehab doesn't work for you or didn't work for you, what is the thing you needed to heal your soul or to get an alignment to say, I don't need alcohol anymore? to allow me to feel safe or whatever it is? Like, what did you need at 23, at 30, at 34 when you're in these kind of rock bottom moments where you turn to alcohol to numb or feel protected?

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My friend today is a great day because we have Greg Braden in the house. And Greg is a five time New York Times bestselling author. And we're about to explore humanity's untapped potential and the battle for our divinity. Greg has been a requested guest on the show for many years. I'm about to talk about what we're going to cover here in a moment. Before I do, I have a couple announcements.

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I'm also going on tour. That's right. I'm going to be going on Seven City Book Tour and Podcast Tour in March. So make sure to go to that link as well, MakeMoneyEasyBook.com. Or you can just go to the link in the description at the top of this podcast. to learn more about the tour because it is going to be fun and I'm going to seven cities throughout the U.S. in the month of March.

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So get ready for that. It will be a powerful tour if you can make it out to one of those cities. I hope you can. But today we've got Greg Braden and he shares groundbreaking insights about the technological threats to our humanity by 2030. The scientific evidence of our body's incredible capabilities and how to reclaim our innate power. He is is going to really share some powerful things today.

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I want you to take some notes. Some things might seem a little confusing at moments, but most of you who have been here for a while know that we like to tap into the surreal. We like to tap into the fifth dimension, how to really tap into the inner world within us so that the outer world can expand.

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Push a button and I can be on a video call from you from around the world in a second.

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But you didn't accept your parents' views of you.

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We can have more peace, harmony, abundance, and love like we are meant to and deserve to feel and experience on a our temptations, our envy, our jealousy, our greed to take over. And it's time we go back to our true essence, our true nature, and that is love and divinity. And when we continue to remember who we are and live in that space, man, can we create some powerful things around us?

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How does someone unresolve their grief?

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If someone is experiencing symptoms, whether it be heart palpitations or they don't know if it's grief or not, or they're feeling anxiety, maybe panic attacks, maybe ADHD, maybe, you know, just depressive thoughts, things like that.

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What happens when someone who is experiencing some type of mental or emotional altercation in their body, what happens when someone decides to go the medical route versus the healing somatic route?

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And can we shock the people around us with love and with genuine authenticity on divinity? who we are, our way of being, so that they ripple with that energy and how they show up in the world as well. It's all about making a difference, being a blessing every single day. And sometimes it's hard to do that when you feel stressed and overwhelmed. And that's why we need these reminders.

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because I wasn't when I was a child. Even though you were in your late 60s at that point and you were an adult and you could logically say, well, I have resources, I have protection, I have a home, I have money, I have safety. But the little boy in you didn't feel safe.

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I need this reminder. And that's why 12 years in, I keep doing the School of Greatness for me. I'm selfish to continue this process because without it, I would struggle. I definitely would struggle. And this is a reminder for me to continue to remember who I am. I am, and for you to remember who you are. I'm so grateful for you, and let's go ahead and dive in to this episode right now.

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Number one, I am getting married soon. Can you believe it? I am getting married to an incredible human being. And it's been a powerful journey of growth, learning, healing, and definitely tapping into our divinity. I feel like I've grown stronger in my spiritual journey over the last three and a half years in my relationship than ever before.

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Entanglement is what it's called. What is this field that we're living in?

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Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest and the conversation we're about to have. We have the five-time New York Times bestselling author, Greg Braden, in the house, who's also an amazing pioneer in emerging paradigm, bridging science and human potential.

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And there's so many topics that I want to dive into, but there's a quote that you have that I want to start with. And the quote is that you've said, by the year 2030, we will either have awakened to the truth of our untapped human potential, or we will be locked into a society of hybrid humans that is engineered away from our powers of creativity, emotion, empathy, and intuition.

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Bicycles in the backyard, yeah, yeah.

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And my first question for you is, is what is our true untapped human potential? What is it that we haven't even had access to that ancient humans had access to?

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Yeah, the easy question. What is that untapped human potential that we have no clue how to tap into that the ancients knew how to? And how can we start tapping into it?

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I mean, this is... This is great context for people. And I can already tell people wanting to follow up with a question in their mind. So I think this is great context to give people, you know, a small percentage of all the information you're talking about here to give us context. There's a couple quotes I want to read that kind of back what you've been talking about that you shared before.

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Quote from you. Expressing our divinity frees us from the fear that keeps us small, insignificant, and powerless, allowing us to triumph over life's challenges.

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Okay. The next quote you said is, "'Awakening your divinity begins with the way you think of yourself, your story.'"

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And then one more quote to tie into this you said the language we use the words we choose to describe ourselves And share our thoughts feelings emotions and beliefs forms the framework for the unity or Separation that we experience when we think and solve the problems of everyday life and Did I write that this is what you wrote, you know, i'm laughing because this is a new book

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But my question is for you then, you know, you're talking about our human DNA, I heard you say, is a fractional antenna.

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Fractal antenna, meaning we're receiving all different types of information from all over the place. So I'm curious then, we're getting information from the outside world, whether it be media, parents, friends, peers, whatever it might be, advertising, all coming to us. We're also getting what I heard you say, our most powerful environment is our emotional environment. So we're getting

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information from our emotional environment constantly. How important then is our inner self talk and the stories we tell ourselves in how we either create and attract what we want in terms of abundance or have more of a miserable type of a life? Sure. Well, you nailed it.

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How does one, Greg, start to believe they are worthy and deserving of healing? Incredible love, abundance, health. We're doing this right now. Yeah.

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Even if they had a horrible backstory, even if their parents had abandoned them, abused them, if they had been cheated on, lied to, stolen from, physically, sexually, emotionally abused, over and over again, when their reality was something that was painful and suffering. How can they believe I'm worthy? Look at all the bad stuff that's happened to me.

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So you need story plus the belief of that story.

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Your body is your subconscious mind. Is your subconscious mind. So that means what you think and believe about yourself. Consciously and subconsciously. You create within your body.

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So we're expressing a frequency based on the words we use, the sounds we use, and then every other person is receiving that frequency as well.

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What is the frequency of our words and how it supports or harms us? It's not so much the words themselves.

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So it's the interpretation of the words.

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You talked about this story in the beginning where, you know, you and your brother grew up in the same environment, same parents, same schooling, essentially, but you have different lives. You interpreted things differently. How can one learn to break an interpretation that they've lived a life of pain, sadness, and suffering?

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Not deny the experience that happened to them, but not define them moving forward and holding them back from the abundance that they want to create in their life.

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So again, if someone- That makes sense if I say- It makes sense to me, of course. But if someone's watching, listening, and they're thinking, you know, I've just had a rough life. Sure. I've just had a tough life. I'm sure you can think of someone in your life who has been holding on to that story. And maybe it's validated, right? Like they can validate that and they have had it really challenging.

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Sure. If we can try to simplify the steps, maybe the actions and the practice might take a lot of time and energy and conscious effort. But if we could simplify the steps, if someone is feeling completely stuck or broken in their relationships, their financial situation, their career path, and they just feel like energetically things are not working for me, I'm not able to create the life I want.

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I'm hearing you say we're supposed to protect and preserve our bodies, but I'm taking drugs because it's helping me deal with all this stress. I'm using alcohol, porn, addiction because I'm exhausted.

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What would be the practical steps that they could start to apply in their life to go from a story and a past of suffering or sadness and transform it into peace, freedom, and financial and emotional abundance in their life?

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Are we okay? We still got time, yeah. To wrap up that thought real quick, the first step is to know you have a choice. Knowledge is power.

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You have to know that you've got the choice. I think the second thing you said was the need to be willing to tap into your divinity and humanity.

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And I'm so grateful that I have a partner in Martha who is committed to spiritual growth, who is committed to diving deeper, tapping into her soul, making sure that we're in alignment, tapping into our souls together to just continue to grow. Now, that doesn't mean we have a perfect life and there's never breakdowns or challenges or disagreements.

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Because they don't understand why someone could do something so bad to you.

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It happens fast. When you can learn to release the trauma physically, you feel like a brand new person. Now, what I'm hearing you say is first you need to learn how to, in order to heal, you need to learn how to understand it, but also you need to release it and free it chemically and physically. But then how do you emotionally link it together so that the emotions don't come back?

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Like Viktor Frankl. Exactly. Man serves for meaning.

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But if our past has continued to define us and we have created the belief that we are unworthy because of everything that has happened, how do we then... After decades of thinking something, start to believe, actually, I'm not unworthy the way my parents told me or that this ex told me or that my teachers told me or my friends or my older siblings. I'm not unworthy. I am worthy.

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How do we actually believe that after decades of programming and blocking our divinity and our freedom?

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Yeah, and I think a lot of people that are watching or listening, they want to figure out how to go from a place in their life that they're unhappy or unfulfilled with.

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You didn't see obese people in that town. No. Necessarily, yeah.

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So these, how are we doing on our list? Is this helping? This is powerful. And I want to, you know, I have a couple of final questions for you before we have to wrap up. I want to honor, I realize I did a lot of talking and I want to stop and allow my host to ask. Of course. No, this is beautiful. I want you to speak for more hours. I mean, this is, I feel like we're just scratching the surface.

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to actualizing their potential, their dreams, their desires, but they don't know how to go from where they are currently to manifesting or creating that reality, that untapped reality in the future. And they don't know how to draw it to themselves faster. How do I bring this idea into the world and make it happen?

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But I have a few final questions before I ask them. I want people to get a copy of your book. It's called Pure Human, The Hidden Truth of Our Divinity, Power, and Destiny by Greg Braden. Make sure you guys get a copy, a few copies of this book if you want to learn more about your divinity and your power and how to unlock your power for abundance, peace, and prosperity in your life.

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Extremely powerful. And if you are loving this, if you're on YouTube or if you're listening on audio on Apple or Spotify, leave a comment in the YouTube of your biggest insight or takeaway that you've heard so far. And if you want more with me and Greg, let me know in the comments below. And maybe we can get Greg out here in the future again to talk more about this.

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I feel like we just scratched the surface. Lewis and Greg's big fun podcast part two. Exactly, exactly. So let us know if you want more of that. Like it, I'll leave a comment. Um, I've got a few kind of final questions and we'll see if we can keep these tighter to be respectful. We'll do the lightning round. Lightning round.

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I don't know how fast you're about to make this one, but a 40 plus years of work, research, dedication, uh, acquiring knowledge and also teaching. What is the biggest thing at this season of your life that is blocking your abundance?

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That's beautiful. Work is love made visible. I love that. Khalil Gibran. I love that. Here's a question I ask everyone at the end. So I have two final questions for you. But again, I want people to sit down. This sounds big. But again, I want people to get this book, Pure Human, The Hidden Truth of Our Divinity, Power and Destiny. Make sure you get this. We'll link it up.

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And follow Greg online as well. What's the best place to support and follow you? Is it gregbrayden.com? Yeah, it's gregbrayden.

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It's just Greg. It's not an abbreviation. Plain old Greg.

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And you're still leading workshops and retreats and all these different things. So all that will be linked up there. A little bit fewer, but, and we're doing more domestic, but yeah, all the live events are listed on the website. There you go. And again, if you want a part two, make sure to comment below. Here's a question I ask everyone towards the end.

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It's called the three truths, hypothetical question and scenario. You said before we jumped on here, you want to live to 200, correct, I think?

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200-year plan, which we'll talk about next time what that looks like. But imagine it is the year 200 for you. You're 200 years young. And for whatever reason, that's the end in this world. And imagine you get to create everything you want from this moment. You're 70 for another 130 years. And you get to live the life of your dreams from this moment until then.

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But for whatever reason, you have to take all of your work with you. This book, every book you've created, this interview, it's all gone, hypothetical scenario. But on the last day, you get to leave behind three things you know to be true, three lessons about life, the world, whatever it may be. And that's all we have to remember you by. What would those three truths be for you?

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Wow, that's beautiful, Greg. That's beautiful, Greg.

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uh greg i want to acknowledge you before i ask the final question i would acknowledge you greg for being a conscious leader in the world that struggles with divinity spirituality and pure love and you've been doing this work for over four decades being a vessel of service and truth and knowledge and wisdom and i would acknowledge you for being a leader in this

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space where i feel like it just seems to be getting harder and harder for the youth i mean for adults as well it's harder and harder for people and over the next five years as the forces of evil try to capture people's hearts and souls i'm grateful and appreciative of you

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being an interruption for people with wisdom, knowledge, and practical lessons to take back and reclaim our own power to have some type of transcendence over it all. So I acknowledge you for being a leader in the Thank you.

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It means a lot to me for you to say that to me. Of course, Greg. Of course. I'm excited to do more in the future. But my final question, what's your definition of greatness?

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Greg Brayden, thanks for being here. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Powerful, man. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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But with those challenges in life, it allows us to reconnect to our divinity. And I'm so grateful for that journey. And I appreciate all of you who are listeners of this show who've been a supporter of the show for a long time. We just reached our 12 year anniversary. And I'm just grateful for it all. So I want to thank you again for being here for showing up.

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If this is your first time being here, welcome to the School of Greatness. Again, we are 12 years in. Make sure to click the follow button so you are subscribed and just get notified whenever we have new episodes like this one today with Greg. We've got a big book that we're launching here in the next couple of months. It's called MakeMoneyEasyBook.com. You can check that out.

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I took it as I'm not good enough as a person. And I took it as an offense. And I know now it's because I was very wounded and I was very insecure and I was afraid of people not thinking I was good enough or something like that. Sure. But it's interesting that I was able to do it in one domain, but in the other, it was the hardest thing to overcome, getting feedback.

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And I think growing up, I didn't really have any friends. And I felt like I didn't feel like I had anyone who had my best interest. Besides like, you know, parents or siblings or whatever. But I was the youngest. And they were always kind of off with their friends. So I always felt like I'm left behind. At least that was the story I told myself.

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Whether it was actually true is what I felt, my interpretation.

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And did you do that in social settings or only written settings?

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Oh, okay. I gave you that extra few weeks. Okay. But it's amazing what you've created, number one New York Times bestseller multiple times. And I love seeing your journey.

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What is that about? You know, what do you think that was in about you where you had the confidence or the courage to do something, I guess, online, but in person, you struggled?

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Interesting. Because you could also package your thoughts and make something compelling and you'd get results that way. So you knew what to do there. I think I'm just better in writing than in person.

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Isn't that interesting? Yeah. But I think this is interesting because I don't think most people talk about feedback and receiving feedback. I think it's really valuable to get it. as consistent as you can. And also, I look at a lot of my comments on whatever, YouTube or social media, not in a sense of like, I'm worried what people are saying, but more as feedback.

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Because if there is one person or two people saying, I didn't like how you did this. Like, okay, is this true for me? And is there a place I can improve? Or is it just something they didn't enjoy?

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yeah what were you saying i was i was gonna say this is my fourth time on the show or time let's go baby has anybody been on more i can i be the greatest school of greatness i have had a guest on i think over 10 times actually who is a coach that has come on and coached a bunch of times but as an individual kind of guest like this i think three might be the max i'm trying to think

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Whereas if I see a bunch of common themes around people saying, hey, you're interrupting too much or you're doing this too much or whatever. Then I'm like, okay, here's a theme of different perspectives giving me feedback.

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Don't take it personally, but see how can I improve this? If I want to.

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If I don't care or, you know, about what they think, then I'll do whatever I want. But if I'm trying to get better, if I'm trying to serve better, if I'm trying to be a better interviewer, things like that, then let me take the feedback without taking it personally and try to notice next time. And that's been helpful.

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Because you don't have to, right? Yeah, just because someone said they don't like something you're doing doesn't mean they're the best opinion to listen to for your advice. That's interesting. I like that a lot. It's kind of like when you get a negative review as an author,

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I don't know if you feel this way, but whenever I see a negative review, I'm like, this person is not a writer who's leaving a nasty review on Amazon. Because I don't know if I've ever left a bad review since writing a book for anyone else. Totally. Because you know the pain, the time, the energy, and just putting a book out, even if it's bad.

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I could give some feedback, but not like one star, I hated it. No one writing books are leaving negative reviews for anyone else writing books.

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And I was like, yeah, he gets it. It's the same exact. It reminds me of Google hunting. Do you know the scene in the bar where there's a guy who's like philosophizing? And then whatever.

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But thank you for pointing that out because it means I'm on the right track. Yeah, that's cool.

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I think maybe three times. Maybe four is kind of like only a few people. All right. So that's good. It's good to be back. We're making it happen. You've been diving in. You've had a lot of experience on a lot of different topics over 15 years since you've been creating content. But for the last few years, you really dove into creating more psychologically challenging

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40. If you could see everything you've created, which are not you, but you could see it, and you know all of your dreams over the next 3, 5, 10 years, and where you want to go in your health and your relationships or your spiritual journey or financial opportunities, what feedback would you give yourself? Oh, this is a tough question, man. I'm thinking about your mom. Oh. Why? Why?

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Because you told me the last time that came on, your mom really enjoyed the questions. Oh, God. Yeah. Okay. You said your mom watched. She really liked the questions and she really liked the responses that you had because she hadn't heard you say these things. Ah, yeah. Yeah. And I'm curious. So. If you could coach yourself, what feedback would you give yourself?

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I've noticed it in the last couple of years. We're not best friends hanging out all the time, but you've reached out a couple of times. Yes. Whereas before, you never did.

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You know, I was like, so I was like, huh? Is he changing something about himself? I'm trying, man. I'm trying, man. I'm not expecting a text from you every month or something. But the fact that you're just like, hey, just checking in. Let's go for a hike sometime or whatever every once in a while. I'm like, it's noticeable because you never did it before. Yes.

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And so I'm seeing that you're taking those actions and I'm sure you're doing with others too.

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I think it's a skill. Yeah. I think it's a skill because that's something... It's interesting. I almost have the opposite feedback for myself, which in the last... And maybe we talked about this last time we hung out, but I was connected with everyone too frequently. I had built my kind of business in building relationships.

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And I felt the opposite of like, I'm just pouring into everyone else and I don't feel like... people are as invested in me. And I was starting to feel resentful or frustrated or just like, oh, I'm drained. So I was like, let me reclaim my energy. And I had to, in the last year and a half, say no to people, create boundaries with people.

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like deeper psychological videos on your YouTube, which I think are really fascinating around human behavior and kind of these psychological skills that we can overcome or we can master to help us create deeper relationships, to help us create healthier lives, more inner peace and more abundance. So I wanted to ask you about

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It was more the fear of hurting their feelings if I need to create a boundary or just say no to them. They wanted to spend time together. They wanted something. They wanted to come on the show, whatever it is. And I just had to say, no, I can't do this. and be okay with disappointing them, letting them down, thinking they're judging me, which was my greatest challenge.

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That is a skill. I didn't have that skill. You probably had that skill. I have no problem saying no to people. You're like, screw you. I don't care. And that was a skill that I'm still learning. I haven't mastered it. It's still like a... It's a muscle I'm building where I'm just like, okay, I have to learn how to be okay with not upsetting someone.

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Do you feel like an internal resistance when that situation comes up? Or I remember for like, you know, I need to take a deep breath or what if they react or that's how it was. I'm a lot better now. I feel like I've done it a ton this year.

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I've like immersed myself in like boundaries and no's everywhere in my life. Friends, family, like not in a negative way, but just you need to show up for me.

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And not in an aggressive way, like screw you, but just like doing the action of no or setting a boundary.

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Removing myself from certain, you know, text groups or things like this that are just, ah, I feel out of alignment with certain things. I need to say no.

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Would you say? I think the first step is what you said, which is self-awareness. Yeah. For me, because I was feeling it for years, but I was afraid of upsetting people. Afraid of hurting the relationships. And then I would resent the relationship when they would reach out and ask for something from me, but they wouldn't just check in on me.

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And I'd be like, and I would do it anyways. And then I resent myself for doing something for someone else when I was frustrated that it didn't just say, Hey, what's going on? How are you doing? Or just texting like, Hey, hope you're doing well.

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But it was only when they reach out when they wanted something. And I would reach out just to be like, Hey, I saw you doing something cool. Congratulations. And not, you know? Yeah. So that would bug me.

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Cause I, maybe I would just assume everyone does what I do, which is like thinking of them, wishing the best of them, like checking in when they do something cool online and I'm like, Hey, congrats. What can I help with?

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In the content you've been making, the research you've been doing, because you're really great at researching and getting the best information, what are a few of the psychological skills that humans should master if they want more peace and abundance in their life?

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It's so interesting, right? But it's so hard. We have the opposite wound or something. I don't know. That's so interesting. With our powers combined. I know.

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That's so interesting. Well, I think a lot of people struggle with these social skills. And I think it is either emotional or psychological wounds that, or just a lack of self-awareness on how to develop this skill. And that's why I think this is what sets people free. Like I have so much more peace in the last year and a half. Now, The first six months of this, I didn't feel peace.

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I felt like, ah, this is hard. But now on the other side of developing this skill, let's say I'm level three or four out of 10 maybe of this skill, I feel so much more peace and freedom. being able to create a boundary, say no, or just not go to someone's party or event and be okay with them being upset with me.

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Yes. I had to say no to people and I had to... Literally, there's a few people that I... had to create a boundary with over text. Then I've been on a phone call and just being like, here's why you're not a good friend. And that was like trembling inside. It was like, I had to have the ultimate courage to be like, you haven't made a good friend. This is why. This doesn't feel good to me.

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I don't appreciate the way you're treating me. And that was the hardest thing. Because I didn't want to upset anyone ever. And I did that over and over again in the last year and a half.

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And I've also realized the skill of not needing lots of friends. You know all this. You're like, yeah, I have four friends and I don't need everyone to like me. I'm always trying to get people to hate me or whatever. It's like... That's how you built your business, right?

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It's funny because you said you grew up kind of feeling bullied and not having a lot of friends. I felt the same way. And I went into, well, let me be friends with everyone. Right. Let me try to get that approval in my 20s.

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And have everyone like me and be the nice guy and over-deliver of value so that people see my worth.

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I really think this is gonna help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness.

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Let's do it. Look at you now. I know, right? Speaking of psychology and the self-help world, what is the advice in the self-help world right now that you think people should ignore? nor like what's out there in the world that you're seeing people speaking about or content or people saying, ah, you should do this, but you actually shouldn't do that.

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Yeah. I knew you were going to say this because I just feel like I literally knew you were going to say this. I was going to say it before you but I want to miss it because I feel like that's all people talk about.

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For probably every relationship I was in until this one, I used to think I was right in a lot of things. And maybe I was in some of it, but I'm sure that I wasn't a lot of the time. Where in your relationship have you had to question your own assumptions of being right about something?

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Man, that's interesting. Okay, so that's something you feel like is getting either overblown up or overrated in terms of... Where is that? Is there any other self-help or personal development advice you're seeing in the world that you feel like, I don't know if that's actually the best approach? Maybe not a person who's saying something, but a... A concept. Yeah, a concept.

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Where you had to say, I need to have my own medicine and step into self-awareness and realize, oh, maybe actually she's right. Where has that been in your relationship that you've seen?

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That's interesting. No, I like this approach, though, because there are certain people that will just say, oh, if you just think about it, it comes to you or whatever. The universe is conspiring in your favor, and when you set an intention, it all floods your way. which whether you believe that or not, what you said is actually what a lot of people talk about with manifestation.

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These things are already out there. Yes. And when you put your intention on a goal, a vision, a dream, whatever you want to create, then you can go find that thing through daily actions. Yes. And the more clear your intention and the more active you're thinking about that thing and acting on it, the closer you're going to find it, the quicker you're going to find it.

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Whatever it is you believe, if you're taking the actions around, whether you call it a confirmation buy-in or anything else. It's the intention and the action. That's it. That's it. There you go. Okay, perfect. So we agree on that. I agree on that, yeah. So it's the way certain people explain it when they don't add those things. That's what frustrates me.

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Sure, sure, sure. It makes sense. Being 40 now, what is the skill you think you're going to need to learn to master for the next four years of your life?

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Cause you've created so much, you've accomplished so much. You've got, you know, probably every type of goal you want to accomplish. You've done it a million times over with the amount of books you sold and all the things you've created and the lives you've impacted and being married for eight plus years now and all these different things. But for the next 40, what's the skill you need to master?

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To feel happy or abundant or joyful or, you know... I feel happy and abundant and joyful.

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And so... So maybe it's letting go of something or, yeah, I don't know.

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It's like... That's what I would say is... not having to fricking prove yourself or do the next big thing. That would be the skill. That's interesting.

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Yeah, I think that is And there's a season for that skill. Because I think when you're 22 and you're broke and you're trying to like- You shouldn't have it. Develop talents and skills where you can add value to people in society. You've got to, well, hustle is the right word, but you've got to work hard. You've got to overcome challenges. You've got to deliver value.

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You've got to figure out what your path is. But I come back to this quote that Jim Carrey said. a few years ago when he was like retiring. Although I just saw that he's got his, I think his final movie's coming out right now. The interview, someone interviewed him. He's like, yeah, I think I'm done with, with like acting. Yeah. And the interviewer was really sad.

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And he said, why you can't, you're like so great and amazing. And he goes, well, I'm going to tell you something that I don't think any celebrity would ever tell you. And that is that I have enough. I am enough. I have enough. I've done enough. And I am enough. Yeah. And he's like, I don't think any celebrity will ever tell you that. Yeah.

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But at Jim Carrey's age and success, like he's got like three, four decades of fricking wins, right? And like unlimited wealth and fame. So maybe at that level, he felt like, yes, But he didn't feel that 20 years prior. Yeah. But he looked peaceful knowing that he doesn't have to go do more to fulfill something for himself to feel enough. And I think that's a very powerful skill.

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And even if you're in your 20s or 30s and you're like, well, I still want to do more.

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It's how can you do it from a place of I am enough no matter what the outcome is. Right. That's the key. That is power. That's the key. And it's... It's hard, though, because, like, what if you would have never sold this many copies or never been a New York Times bestseller or never... Yeah. Would you still be like, oh, I got to prove something. I got to become better to, like, do this thing.

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I've won already. You've won big, man. And I think having peace with where you're at, because a lot of people, I think suffering is not being happy with what you have. Yes. And it's like there are people that we know who have a lot that aren't happy, or they still feel like they need more in order to fulfill something.

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And I don't know, even if I feel like, oh, gosh, I've got all the money in the world or whatever it might be, I feel like I'm still going to want to pursue things, but not out of like proving people wrong or proving that I can do something, but just because it's going to serve people and it's going to serve me and I'm going to enjoy it. And I think that's where hopefully people can get that.

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Well, you're doing that in a big way with your YouTube series that you have. And you do a lot of kind of docu-style videos on psychological skills and mindsets and things like that where people can learn. I want people to follow you on YouTube. What's the best place we can go follow you there or your site?

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That's it, man. Every bookstore, every website, everywhere. It's great, man. Yeah, if you haven't checked out Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*** Yet, check it out. If you're trying to learn how to stop people-pleasing, And To Create Boundaries, that's a great book. It's a good book for it, yeah. So check that out, markmanson.net.

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You're doing a lot of long-form content in your podcast as well right now. You're diving deeper into subjects. People can check that out. Is it I Am Mark Manson on YouTube or is it Mark Manson? Just Mark Manson. Mark Manson on YouTube. And everyone on social media. Where's your main platform? Is it Instagram or X or where do you like to share the most bite-sized content?

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Mark Manson over there. Mark, appreciate you as always, man. Thanks for giving us these kind of skills that I think will help us improve the quality of our life. Always my pleasure. I'm excited now. Thank you. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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Or just because you're afraid or something. Totally.

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And you ruin a good relationship. Right. And so you've been married how long now? 10 plus years?

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Eight years. Yeah. What are the psychological skills or emotional skills that you... have now learned or improved upon eight years later that you didn't have at the beginning of the marriage that has helped you become closer, that has helped you feel more harmonious in the marriage, giving you more freedom, whatever it might be within the marriage?

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And if someone doesn't learn the skill of self-awareness, what is available on the other side if they don't learn that skill?

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Sold over 10 million copies... The Subtle Art of Not Giving a... I'm really trying not to say the word.

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If someone feels like, but I know I might, and they're wrong, and I know this is correct and this is not true, in whatever dynamic, relationship dynamic, what is something that someone could ask themself or some steps they could take to say, am I truly being self-aware or am I just being a jerk? What are those skills or steps to creating self-awareness?

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That's interesting. So kind of remove yourself from the scenario and look at it from a different perspective, an unbiased perspective, I guess, of like you being in the situation. Totally. That's interesting. Okay. So that's one thing to creating self-awareness. Is there another?

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Interesting. And if you're in the wrong relationship intimately, your partner might be saying, you're bad at this and bad at this. They may be... Not giving you the best feedback, too, depending if they don't have your best interest in mind. If they have their interest in mind and not yours.

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You know what's interesting about feedback is I felt like as an athlete growing up, I was really good at receiving coaching and feedback when it was around sports.

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And then in my 20s... I, and I got into the real world, I didn't like feedback. Like in my business and intimate relationships and like friends, I didn't like it because it felt like it was critical of me as a person rather than me as a skillset in a sport. And I didn't take things personally when a coach was like, you dropped the ball, here's what you need to do. I was like, okay, tell me more.

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How do we get better at this skill? But when I would get feedback in my twenties from whatever girlfriends or friends or whatever business people, it was like, I took it so personally. It was like, I'm bad and wrong because I'm getting feedback. And I didn't know how to do, I would like, push people away, I was like, defend myself every time I got feedback.

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And I realized that really hurt me from personally growing and developing skills. And it wasn't until I was about 30 where I went to a workshop where it was like a whole day was around people giving you feedback in the workshop.

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Like literally they would circle around you and they'd say, you show up to me as this, you show up to me as a jerk, you show up to me as entitled, you show up to me as whatever. And the whole thing was like receiving the feedback and say, give me more feedback. Give me more. You know, give me more. Tell me more. And everyone being... This was after like days of people getting to experience you.

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Yeah. Even if you were like the best person there, what's the feedback you can give them? And that... I don't know if it was like the healthiest thing, but it was definitely helpful for me because I was so against getting feedback about me.

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And it was the greatest gift that I got in my early 30s because I think I just would have been... you know, right and wrong, good and bad, and just unable to receive feedback at any moment. I'd have been judgmental, you know, all these things. It's scary, man. Feedback is scary.

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Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have my friend Mark Manson in the house, who's been on the New York Times bestseller list for, I think, six years now. Is that right? About six years off and on, 360 weeks?

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Isn't that interesting? Or at work, they're like the boss, but then they come home and they're like a baby or whatever it is. Totally. But in my sports experience, I was like, give me the best coach who can give me feedback all day long. I was like, tell me what to do. How can I get better? How can I improve? But in my personal life, I took it as criticism.

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My friend, welcome back. If you are looking to create abundance in your life, then you are in for a treat today. We have Anthony O'Neill, who is here to explore what it truly means to take control of your finances and live authentically.

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in seven cities in 10 days so go to lewishouse.com tour to check out the book please pre-order your copy asap and get a ticket bring your friends to one of the cities where we are going to around the country and i am so excited to see people i'm going to be out on tour i just got married me and martha had a beautiful wedding been posting about it on social media and i'm excited to get out there and promote this message and this book because

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What would you say is the number one piece of financial advice you're seeing online that people should ignore?

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For the first part of the year, I was planning a wedding. And now that that's complete, I can go out in the world and see all of you. So I'm very excited, very grateful, very blessed. I hope you're feeling blessed today as well. And without further ado, let's dive into this episode right now. Welcome back, everyone. School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest.

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Through candid stories and practical advice, he's going to share with you why true wealth isn't about credit scores or appearances, but about creating a life of abundance on your own terms. Anthony provides a clear roadmap to reclaiming your power and building genuine wealth that can be passed down for generations.

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We have the inspiring Anthony O'Neill in the house. My man. What's up, man?

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Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I can definitely relate to that. And for me, I've learned that regulating the emotions, like allowing yourself to feel it but not act on them necessarily until you regulate and understand them, gives you more sense of freedom, gives you more sense of power and peace in the decision. And it doesn't mean you're always going to feel good.

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And you're going to have to go through uncomfortable situations. But when you can learn to regulate them, you can have more peace in the decisions you make after you feel the emotions. And one of the challenges, you know, some people spend their money on things when they feel overwhelmed or excited or stressed. Yeah, I was more of an emotional eater where it was like I would just go eat food.

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I didn't need things. I wasn't like, let me go buy the shiny thing to feel good or window shop or go on Amazon. That was never my thing. But it was like. Let me get the ice cream, let me get the pizza to comfort me. So whatever your advice is of comfort, luckily I wasn't a spender of things to go into debt, which takes years to get out of, right?

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But I was a spender of food that created physical debt. It created physical weight that I then had to carry with me constantly.

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So whatever the weight is you're carrying or whatever the thing that you're spending to add more weight into your financial pocket or to your physical bucket, whatever it might be, or your weight might be like, oh, I'm going to go to sleep with a bunch of women because I want to just feel good because I don't feel good right now.

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We are at the table. You got a new book called Take Your Seat at the Table, Live an Authentic Life of Abundance, Wellness, and Freedom. Yes, sir. Most people are not free today. They are living in a lot of debt. They're living in a lot of stress and a lot of anxiety. the main things that cause anxiety, stress, overwhelm, and a lack of freedom for people.

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You're picking up that relational baggage, whatever it might be, or spiritual baggage from being in all those relationships. It's just learning how to regulate it better so we can have more abundance, wellness, and freedom like you talk about in your book, Take Your Seat at the Table. And I think that's a big challenge for people. When you talk about, you know,

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If you're in debt $100,000, $100,000, $200,000 from student loans and other two cars, it might seem daunting. You talked about this, okay, get clear on a 12-month, 3-year, 5-year vision and understand why you want that vision in these 12 months, 3 years, and 5 years. Some people might say, oh, man, I have to cut all of my fun out of my life for the next 5 years.

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I have to live so below my means and cut all – All the food I'm going out, all the fun, all the activities and trips, I have to cut it all out because of the financial baggage and debt that I'm in in order to, in five, seven years, be debt-free. And that seems exhausting.

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Most people don't have the discipline emotionally, mentally, or financially to go so below their means when they've gone into debt for years and they've created an identity of debt and spending. How does someone wrap their head around that

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complete death of an identity on who they have been to say, oh, in order to be debt free, I'm going to take five years of my life to be so below my means, cut out everything, and then I can finally be free.

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I would ask them, how are you feeling right now? Probably trapped, probably stressed, anxious, avoidant. They probably don't even know how much depth they're in because they don't want to keep looking at it because it doesn't feel good. It's like when you gain weight, you don't want to jump on the scale because you're like, I don't want to look at that. But... Well, I got to say this respectfully.

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Would you say that people being in debt and not knowing how to get out of debt is one of the biggest things that causes them stress around money? And if so, how do people start to get out of debt when they just feel overwhelmed by it?

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It seems like forever, but when you're there, it's like, man, what happened the last two years?

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What's the biggest financial mistake you made in the last year? In the last year?

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This guy has done it and does it well. Yeah, and he knows his worth. He knows his worth. For his experience and his product. He told me it will take me two weeks. He told me I'll have it done in three days. Oh my gosh. The guy for $7,500 said three days? Louis. Oh, man.

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Curious about two-part question. What is your definition of abundance? And what is blocking you and most people from abundance?

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Powerful. Speaking of authentic money, and we might have time for one or two more questions, then we got to get you to the airport. I'm curious your thoughts or beliefs around the spiritual path to being able to steward money.

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and your beliefs around or what you've been taught around, what you think God or the universe wants us to become in order to be good stewards of money so we can receive an abundance and overflow of it. Amen.

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That's beautiful, man. And when your next book comes out around money, we'll have to do a whole thing about how –

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engaged couples should be how they should merge spiritually and financially their asset together so that'll be the next conversation we gotta do it but for now i want people to get a copy of your book take your seat at the table live an authentic life of abundance wellness and freedom by anthony o'neill also on social media youtube anthony o'neill make sure to check out his channel his show and all the good things uh any final thing on your harder mind that you would like to to finish before we gotta

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Appreciate you, sir. Thank you so much for listening to this episode. If you enjoyed this and if you found value, make sure to share this with one friend. Just copy and paste the link and text a friend where you feel would be truly inspired by this episode as well.

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And also make sure to click the follow button on Apple or Spotify, wherever you're listening to this episode, because we have a massive episode coming up next that I do not want you to miss. So make sure to follow this and be on the lookout for the next episode coming with some massive content and guests. Also, I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you wanna make it easier, you wanna make it flow, you wanna feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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So debt is one of the big things that holds people back. What do you think is the number one thing that's stopping most people then from becoming debt free?

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He's got to talk about all the mistakes that so many people make today around money, and it is going to blow you away. If you're enjoying this at any time, please share this with a friend that you want to see succeed in their abundance, in their mindset, and in their thinking around money so they can actually behave in new ways to support them in their financial growth.

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People care about that that much? What is your credit score? No way. Yes, Lewis. Women are asking you what's your credit score? Absolutely. Come on. Lewis, I'm going to be real. You, my brother, I can say this. In my community and culture.

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I was going to ask you a question about the credit score thing. I thought this was interesting. I mean, maybe I, I don't know. No one's ever asked me, like, what's your credit score? But that's interesting. So your fiance's never asked you that question? No, because I have money. It's like, but I've made money and I've saved my money.

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And speaking of financial growth and abundance, we have a new book coming out very soon. March 18th, it drops. You can preorder it right now. It's called Make Money Easy, Create Financial Freedom and Live a Richer Life. This has been a 10-year journey of research.

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But I remember talking in like the first, maybe it's weird, but either the first night I met her or within the first couple days of like hanging out, I was just talking about money more openly. Not like, oh, I have all this money and let me spend it on all these things. But I was just speaking about it in a way where it wasn't taboo. I was speaking about it in a way where

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it was more open, I was just like, oh, you do projects, you're an actor, like, oh, that must be awesome. What are most actors making these days? Not like, what are you making directly, but like, how is the industry, what is it going on? Here's what I'm doing in podcasting, and here's what I was when I started out, broke on my sister's couch. Here's what I've kind of created over the last 15 years.

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So it was more of an open conversation about it. of where I was to where I am now. Not like, oh, open my bank account, here's my money. But I think because I came from that space, I don't know, maybe she's Mexican and they don't, that culture, they don't ask about credit score. I don't know.

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But I'm interested, when a woman asks someone about their credit score, and say it's an 800 credit score that the guy has, And the woman thinks to himself, oh, that's good. He's got a high credit score. What does she learn about the man with that high credit score or low credit score? And what does she not know about that man based on a higher or lower credit score?

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and putting together some of the top millionaires and billionaires advice in the world to break down how to unlock financial freedom for your life, but more importantly, live a richer life because there are some people who have lots of money, but who are also not free because they haven't figured out how to create richness in their life with their money.

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And that's not good. If you're buying consumer stuff. If you're not using it to invest in smart assets or something, yeah.

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We make it so hard because it is hard if we're not educated. Facts. And it feels scary and overwhelming if we don't have the information, the education like you're talking about. Yeah. And I think debt feels daunting for a lot of people.

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And if you were broke today, and if you were in debt, let's say, let's say you made a bunch of challenging financial decisions, you made all, you know, your mistake journal is filled up to the brim, and you're broke and in a lot of debt. What is the exact process you would take then from going from broken in debt to creating a financially free life? Woo!

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My friend, welcome back to the School of Greatness and happy holidays to you. I am so excited for what is to come in your life. And I hope you're finishing the year strong while also spending time with friends and family during this season. And today we have a very powerful episode for you. This will be a masterclass on manifestation.

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Is that through the nervous system or is that through the cells?

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We're also going to focus on how our brain chemistry affects relationships, the science behind attraction and bonding, and the spiritual principles that govern manifestation. This is huge. Because for years, people were always saying, ah, is this just like woo woo stuff? Is this just, you know, law of attraction? Does it actually work? Can it be that easy?

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When someone's looking for abundance, it's never about the abundance, it's about the change they need to make for healing?

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So we should be focusing more on what we need to change every moment as opposed to the abundance or the healing.

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That's why it's so hard for people to lose weight or get in shape because you might try it for a few days and then the cravings or I'm tired and I want to go default back into the old personality.

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Well, we're going to give you the spiritual and scientific principles that govern manifestation. And whether you're

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looking to improve in your relationships if you're looking to manifest financial abundance or understand the science behind spiritual principles this episode will transform how you think about creating the life you desire i am so excited about this and speaking about financial abundance if you're trying to manifest more financially you've got to check out my brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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This is all about creating a rich and abundant life. And this is the book I wish I had 20 years ago when I was broke on my sister's couch, making no money and had a ton of fear and worry around money, a lot of anxiety around money. This is going to give you the seven money habits to create financial freedom and abundance in your life.

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And there are so many things that I've had to learn the hard way over the last two decades about creating financial freedom, actually in the material world. But a lot of us have a poor relationship with money in this book.

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What does neuroscience tell us about signs, signals, and synchronicities? Are they something we should be paying attention to based on neuroscience and brain chemistry, or is it more spiritual woo-woo?

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I had to learn so many things from some of the top financial experts in the world about my relationship to money and how I was still living in scarcity, even though I was creating financial abundance. But emotionally, my relationship to money was struggling. So if you are trying to break free financially, externally and internally,

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About these things, science signals, synchronicities?

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Well, that's fascinating. I love that stuff.

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Wow. That's cool. So when someone sees the signs, signals, and synchronicities happening in their life, what do you think that's telling them? That they're on the right path, that they should be paying attention more, that they should be trusting their intuition more when they're seeing these three things? So...

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Unless you have a deeper spiritual connection to something.

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Wow, that's fascinating. Do you believe that we can be in beautiful, healthy, loving relationships and we can manifest everything we have on our vision or action boards if we have yet to heal the wounds of our childhood as a neuroscientist?

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Really. Wow. So if we have these visions and dreams and goals that we want to go after, if we want to have a beautiful relationship, but we are wounded still, the inner child is wounded inside of us as adults, what will happen to us?

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then I want you to go to make money easy book.com and go ahead and get a copy. And when you do, all you have to do is submit your receipt on that site, make money easy book.com. And you're going to get entered into my money mastermind class. We're doing a free money mastermind class coming up soon. And I want you to get access to this live training that I'm doing.

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You don't want anyone to notice about you.

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which I think goes back to one of the things, one of the pieces of content I heard you talk about, which is like the sense of smell connected to someone's stress levels or anxiety levels. Like you'll kind of attract a similar nervous system, or I guess a certain similar, like, I don't know, stress level?

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Wow. And as we start to heal and grow, if the other person's not healing and growing, we kind of pull away.

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Speaking, I guess, about relationships and men and women, with all of your expertise on the brain, is the process of manifesting love and falling in love different from men versus women?

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So you think men and women manifest love the same way, similar ways?

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Why is that based on kind of the brain size?

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Especially if they're pregnant, too, and they weren't able to go out and hunt or gather or whatever it might be.

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And some of the most powerful episodes we had this year based on what you guys wanted was around manifesting the dreams that you have and drawing them to you faster. How do we create a clear vision for our life that we want and how do we make it happen and be undeniable in the results that we want to create for ourselves? every desire, every dream that you have. I want you to manifest them.

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So check it out at makemoneyeasybook.com to preorder your copy and get access to our Money Mastermind class. And today we have a massive lineup. Our first guest is the one and only Dr. Joe Dispenza, who's going to break down the quantum physics of creation.

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You have to tame that in some ways, right? Yeah. But how do you tame it, but also harness it in other ways? You know what I mean? It's like a dance of like having drive and testosterone.

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Like I never want to lose that drive, right?

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But I also want to be like a great loving parent and partner and all these things.

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and not let testosterone drive me in doing damaging things.

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Less about lifting and hunting, right?

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I've already told her I'm getting my sleep, you know, the first few months. So your testosterone drops.

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But are women attracted to men with less testosterone?

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So if you're not a bad boy when you're at peak fertility as a woman, is that going to hurt the relationship if you don't give women what they want?

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So if a man is not a bad boy, when a woman is at peak fertility and the man just wants to cuddle and chill and not be driven by testosterone and give the woman that testosterone feel, will that ultimately hurt the relationship long term if the woman doesn't get what she wants sexually?

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He's going to show you how to rewire your brain's neural pathways to manifest abundance by generating the emotions of your future before the experience. It's so powerful. Next, we have Dr. Tara Swart, who reveals groundbreaking research on the neuroscience of love.

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But logic and emotion are two different things in relationships, you know? You might logically say, okay, I'm safe, but emotionally you want something else.

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Right. Right, because they're not getting what they want sexually.

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And so it's like, how do you suppress the thing you want sexually to be like, oh, but he's such a good guy or he's this. But if he's not giving me what I want, then I'm going to go find it from this other younger testosterone driven man, right?

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The same rat, the same mouse, but just living in different areas.

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Come on. So wait, you're telling me rats are monogamous?

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They're just little polyamorous voles.

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Well, first off, which mice are happier? The ones that are more promiscuous or the ones that are coupled?

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So you think the female mice are happy if they just, you know, are pregnant, but then their partner just leaves? No, no. They're not happy? No. How do we know? Can we test that? Okay, so how do we apply this to our lives?

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She goes deep into the neuroscience behind why waiting to have sex can lead to longer and stronger romantic bonds and more sustainable relationships. That's not something I wanted to hear 10, 15 years ago. Our next clip will come from David Guillaume, who has exploded on our channel in the last couple of months here on the School of Greatness.

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Come on, have we done this? No. Have people done this? Yes. No way. These mice?

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Wow. So if a woman sleeps with a man on the first date or two, is a man... driven to want to bond long-term with that person? No. Why not?

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So based on neuroscience, if you sleep with someone quickly, you're less likely to bond long-term together. They're more likely to be promiscuous or just not be as interested in that person long-term. Is that right? That's fascinating. But you hear a lot of people, but she'd be like, you know, just sleep with them on the first day. It's fun. Just have fun. You know, it's all good.

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He's going to share how to unlock your true manifestation potential by expanding your body to hold more abundance and develop certainty beyond logic during challenging situations. Finally, we have the brilliant David. Dr. James Doty, who explains how fear and attachment block manifestation.

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But I just feel like you're setting yourself up for let down.

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But don't expect the guy to keep liking you after that.

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Yeah. So the brain chemistry within a man changes if they have sex earlier with a woman.

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What changes within a woman when they have sex with a man? Do they become more bonded to the person?

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That's fascinating. So a woman, when they have sex with a man, they're bonding quicker.

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When a man has sex with a woman, he's not necessarily bonding right away. He has to have more time connecting with her until he bonds.

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This is fascinating. Okay. What else about neuroscience and relationships should we address since we're on this topic that you think is really interesting?

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Yeah, that's interesting. How does someone start to believe something is possible when they've never created it for themselves?

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He's going to be covering the critical difference between achieving external success and finding true internal fulfillment and why fear and attachment are the greatest sources of suffering and how to overcome them. I am so excited for you to dive into this episode all about manifestation. Let me know your thoughts on this episode.

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yeah of course um what has been the thing that has blocked you in the last year the most this is something you've been practicing for 20 plus years 25 years roughly these spiritual laws but what's the thing that's still hard for you to break through or sometimes you forget and you have to be reminded with a painful lesson

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Plus, you've got a big business. You want to make sure your employees, your team, your investors, whatever it might be, customers feel like you're credible as well. Correct. Correct. You're a sloppy human being walking around.

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If you have any friends or family that you want to see win in their life, in their relationships, in their money goals, in their dreams, forward them the link to this episode right now and let them know you care about them and want to see them succeed. That is one of the most powerful things. Generosity and gratitude is the gateway to abundance. You deserve it.

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And it means you got to start living into gratitude and generosity even more. I am so pumped for you to dive into this episode on manifestation.

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Yeah, with millions of men or women here, exactly. It's funny, you just got to know where to go. You just got to try new things and you got to transform on the inside out.

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Yeah, I love the question I like when I present this to someone is in a world of possibilities, if this was possible, what would need to happen? Beautiful.

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Wow. So you got 75 SKUs in in one year when you had like a couple before then or something, right? Yep. Yeah. And you also said that something you said earlier, you said you made a million dollars at 15. Is that right?

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But then you were kind of broke for 15 years.

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So it sounds like there's almost a three-step process is what I'm seeing. Number one, learn to draw the energy you want to you. Number two, create the vessel within you so that you can hold it And I'm assuming number three is where to bring that energy, how to be of service with that energy, and then just continue to draw, have a container big enough to hold it, and then pour it out into others.

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That's a beautiful way of putting it. So how do we first draw energy to us of the things we want to manifest more?

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What's the difference between a desire and a temptation? Because you could be like, I'm just like crazy.

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Most people think the drug is the power to unlock more, and so they need to keep doing the plant medicine or the drugs that create the awakening, the awareness.

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But anyone that I've talked to who's done the plant medicines, they're like, no, nothing is greater than this. This unlocks more than anything I could ever do on my own.

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And also, if you're doing the drugs or the alcohol or the sex or the addiction, things that create this energy feeling, what does that do to your vessel?

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Yeah. And what you said about, you've said this about certainty. Certainty is the way to guarantee a positive outcome. As long as you have complete certainty beyond logic that everything is good and will be good, you are guaranteed to have the outcome be good. Absolutely. What is the number one thought and number one emotion that blocks us from the ability to manifest greater?

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Yes. But how does someone shift their attitude into positive when they're in a suffering state and they feel like they're a victim to so many different things happening to them? Sure.

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Because they've been chasing a result or a goal or a dream, but neglecting everything else.

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So if we're coming from a place of insecurity, fear, or lack, and we're saying, you know what? I want to manifest. I want to create more for myself. I want to have more money. I want to have more opportunities, accomplishments, success. And that's what I want. I desire these things. And I start to apply some of the practices of manifesting and creating more abundance in my life.

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But if I create those external results and I haven't shifted the insecurities or the shame, what happens next?

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Yeah. So you can still manifest and attract what you want and create what you want and accomplish goals, but it's not going to make you feel different about yourself. It might actually make you feel worse. Exactly. I hope you enjoyed this powerful masterclass on manifestation. I wish I had this episode five years ago, 10 years ago, heck, one month ago.

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I got the chance to sit down with all these incredible people, Dr. Joe Dispenza many times, the neuroscientist, Dr. Tara Swart, David Guillaume, who brings spiritual wisdom to the world, and Dr. James Doty, all about manifestation and really creating abundance in your life. And each one of these episodes was so powerful. And so we wanted to bring these key moments all in one episode for you.

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And these were some of the biggest guests of the year that we had on. And so we wanted to make it this powerful masterclass for you. If you enjoyed this, do me a favor. It would mean a lot to me if you just click the follow button over on Apple or Spotify, wherever you're listening to this audio podcast. Click on the follow button and leave a review.

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And again, I want to remind you, if no one's told you lately, that 2025 has the potential to be the biggest year of your life. But not because you say it's going to be, not because you've gone through challenges this last year and you deserve it now.

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It's going to be because you intend it to happen and you show up every single day with that intention by following through with a commitment to consistency. And these are just some of the philosophies and principles that can support you from this episode. But you need the accountability. You need to show up and constantly be a learner. They say learners are earners.

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If you're showing up and listening to the podcast every single week, it's going to support you. We are here to guide you. My... mission is to bring you the top minds in the world, the most inspiring people in the world, so they can share their research, their science, their stories to give you that accountability. Learners are earners.

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Also, I want to make sure that you are financially setting yourself up for success, not only externally by making a lot of money, but internally by feeling good about the money you have, the money that's coming and going in your life as well.

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And if you haven't pre-ordered a copy of my new book, Make Money Easy, it's all about creating a rich and abundant life, then go to makemoneyeasybook.com right now. And when you buy a copy, you'll be entered into a Money Mastermind live masterclass training that I'm going to be doing live. Make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. Get a copy. All you have to do is submit a receipt.

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You can get over on Amazon or wherever you buy books. You submit a receipt and you'll get in my live masterclass on making money and the mindset you need to really accelerate this financial opportunity for you in 2025 and beyond. So go to makemoneyeasybook.com. Get your copy today. Share this link with a friend that you care about, that you want to see succeed, that you want to see thrive.

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And I'm excited to be here along your journey to support you in accomplishing all of your goals and helping you get back up when you fall down. We are here to support you. I want to see you win. You deserve it, but you've got to be the one to show up every single day and be consistent in manifesting your dreams.

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I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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And this is the episode that will give you clear, specific strategies, lessons, and stories that you can take action on to create the ultimate dreams that you have come true. We've done a ton of research and we've got some of the biggest guests that you've loved the most this year. And I'm excited to provide them for you in one place.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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These nuggets that we found throughout some of the most powerful episodes we did with these top manifestation experts. We found these nuggets and we're putting them all in one episode for you. This will be incredible. a powerful masterclass that you'll want to always come back and listen to.

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This episode has a wealth of knowledge related to mindset, manifestation, and how to create the results you want in your life, but not five, 10 years in the future. How do we do this now? How do we bring it faster? How do we manifest more effortlessly with flow, with ease? We're going to dive into spirituality, relationships, science, and how all these topics relate to manifestation.

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If you're feeling any frustration, any sadness, any overwhelm, depression, if you're feeling like just, ah, I'm not catching the break, I'm getting sick all the time, I'm not creating the financial opportunities I want, I feel like people are using and abusing me. If this is part of your narrative right now and your reality,

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Then what do you do for the rest of your life if you win the goal early?

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excited about it. I was like, that's awesome because we put a lot of work into putting it out there and creating the work. And I like accomplishing things. It's a nice validation. But here's the thing. I have gotten to the place where, sure, maybe I would have been let down had I not accomplished the goal I set out to.

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51. Yeah. So you feel like- You look older than me. You look great, by the way. That's the first thing I said, man. You got the fitted shirt. It's just a shirt. It's a well-cut shirt. So do you feel like in the last, I don't know,

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three decades since you've been in kind of the school, working world, business world, that you've always been jumping from comparison to comparison versus- I think we all go through phases.

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But the thing that I'm focused on more is how can I contribute to as many people as possible in the pursuit of the goal, in the the collective effort of the pursuit of goals, dreams, and accomplishments. And if you get both, then amazing.

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I'm a smart guy. I should have this. Why can't I create this? Or I've been working for so long. Why isn't it here yet?

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So if you feel like, I mean, I guess, so your friend told you this year, listen, you've already won. Yeah, and again, it's a rhetorical trick. Which you don't care about winning or losing, but you've already created what you wanted to do.

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If someone cares more about getting the credit for their work or their ideas versus... making an impact, what is at stake for them if they care more about credit over info?

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Yes. And was there any price you've paid that looking back- Wasn't worth it? You're like, hmm, was that really worth it for that many years or this much time or this much stress thinking about this one thing?

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But if you don't get the goal, if you don't get the dream, if it doesn't happen, the thing you really want, if you don't make the certain amount of money that you want that year, whatever it is, but you're making a difference to a few people, you're contributing to someone's life, that's way more meaningful than accomplishment and feeling like it's not enough.

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A long time. Years, decades? Years, years, years. So you regret not changing course.

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You're known for your brilliance, your intellect, your idea, critical idea generation, solving problems. Like, this is one of the main things you're known for. Like, you are the modern intellect that people go to to pay a ton of money, to help them solve problems, to speak and influence people. democracy, capitalism versus communism. How do we make things happen in the world better?

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Like, this is who you are. I know. Silly, isn't it? It's not silly. But I'm just curious, what do you think was something that you lacked for your own self to be able to see the situation in front of you in order to make a better decision for yourself? In that particular case?

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Is it smart? Is it about being, because this is the thing, you're extremely smart, but is it about- I have a type of smarts.

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You have a type of intelligence. I don't have all smarts. Sure. I have some smarts. What is the skill- needed for you to reach a new level of intelligence, let's say, so that you don't repeat these things in the future.

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Accomplishment and success and feeling like you don't really have deep, meaningful relationships. So this is something we're going to be diving into and so much more. And I hope that this is coming to you at the exact right time in your life.

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Something you said earlier on is that you love ideas and people with ideas that make your head hurt.

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Or do you allow things? Do you allow your heart to hurt? Of course.

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So that's something that makes your heart hurt. I mean, heart hurt. Do you feel connected to your heart a lot? I probably could work on that. It's not about could or should or right or wrong. I'm just curious. Better than I was. I think there's room for improvement. Sure. What do you think is possible for you, Simon, if you were able to trust your heart more rather than your head?

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And if it is, feel free to let me know and share this with one or two friends that you think would benefit from this conversation with myself and Simon Sinek. And make sure to follow over on Apple Podcasts, over on Spotify. And leave us a review on one of those platforms as well with your biggest takeaway or your biggest aha moment. I love reading your reviews and all of your feedback over there.

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Gosh, it's so interesting you're saying this because we're going back to something else you talked about, which is the skill of conflict resolution. Most people haven't been taught the skills of conflict resolution. You said the first thing is listening. We're in a world where most people aren't listening. They just want to get their... We're in a broadcast culture.

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They want to broadcast their feelings, but they don't know how to express feelings, which I think is another skill, is learning how to express your feelings and emotions without throwing up on everyone and demeaning people or calling names or screaming at someone. Calling for their canceling, whatever it is. Everything. It's all emotional.

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And I think the third thing that you just said, the people... correct me if I'm wrong, people who usually scream the loudest sometimes aren't even clear what their values are. That's true. They think they know what a value is maybe, or they just see that's unjust or I don't like that because that happened to me and I don't agree with that or I'm whatever.

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Who were we and who were we against then? And who are we now and who are we against? And unfortunately...

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And I'm very excited about today's guest. So let's go ahead and dive in with Simon Sinek. It seems like the biggest sacrifice most humans are making today is a sacrifice of not having friends for success, for career, for success. greatness, for whatever it is, people pursuing something so passionately for writing their books, for creating their business, whatever it might be.

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Yeah, I don't want that, or I like this.

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Then I want you to know that in today's episode, we are diving into a topic on how to really create more fulfillment and happiness in your life. I'm bringing on Simon Sinning today, who's one of today's most influential thought leaders. And we're talking about perspective and how obviously comparison is the thief of joy. And social media creates a lot of comparison, feeling like we're not enough.

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It's like, well, I'm going to commit for this decade or two decades to being the best I can be. Yeah. At the sacrifice of friends. And at the sacrifice of friends.

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Doesn't it also help create more connection?

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Right? What if someone who's maybe running one of these businesses or another perspective might be, well, you mentioned competition. In order for me to compete and not let someone else monopolize this industry or this sector of the business, I need to be able to have more cashflow. And so I need to let go of certain people or mass land, whatever it is. I'm not justifying.

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I'm just saying, what if they're coming in and saying, this is the only way I can compete. And otherwise our stock would go to zero and no one will invest in our business.

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What do you think would be the perfect system to live in, or better system to live in?

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Right, what's a better system?

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You're not talking about if there is 1% of the organization that is not showing up on time, not doing their job and consistently not improving, it's okay to let those people go. If they're uncoachable,

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Of course. Right? You coach them. We're more talking about like, okay, we just need 10% gone.

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So what needs to change in order for that to start to take place in big corporations?

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In a capitalistic way. I always get all riled up whenever I come see you. I like it though. I like it. In a capitalistic society, I've heard you say you need competition. Yes, we like competition.

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Makes us better. You got to improve. You can't have a crappy- You know this.

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I ran my fastest turkey trot time last week.

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Oh, yeah. You really go at your fastest.

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Exactly, exactly. The capitalism you love. Yeah, I think capitalism is fantastic. And competition we need.

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Exactly, yeah. Some are more equal than others. Exactly. It sounds like something that we're missing or something that gets lost in translation, let's say, in a capitalistic competitive world that is needed where communism doesn't work because people are greedy is collaboration. Yes. And also going back to the idea of friendship.

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Friends collaborate in a non-business way, but maybe also, but it's a collaboration of activities, of ideas, of words, shared values, of conversations, travel, whatever it is. You're experiencing life in a collaborative environment. We're biologically engineered for it. Exactly. Yes. But when we live in a...

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You know, if you're a part of a company, maybe you've got friends within the company, but now there's competition because we are making money. Do you ever watch the Great British Baking Show, Bake Off? I think I've seen clips, but not the whole.

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I just got the chills there. Okay. You know what's interesting when you're saying that, I don't mean to interrupt you, but something that just came to me is when I was a decathlete, as an athlete, where I can relate to this, decathlon is 10 events in one event, track and field. I know what decathlon is. For those that don't know. I was a big Daley Thompson fan back when I was a kid.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly, there you go. So there's a beauty to the decathlon, at least the way I was living in it. And you want to win. And there's 10 events you're trying to win at every event. For whatever reason, when I got into the decathlon, it was one of the most beautiful experiences an athlete had ever had because I may be better at the high jump than someone else.

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but I'm rooting for the other guy that I'm trying to beat. Hey, you can get over this. Let me give you some tips and strategies. There might be someone who's better at the pole vault than me who's cheering me on at a lower height trying to get over the bar. And like, way to go. And here's where you can use my pole. You know, whatever. It was like this beautiful thing.

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I've heard that about the decathlon.

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I don't know what it is. I think it's so hard and you're not going to be the best at every event. Yeah. And so you support each other. You might be the best at one or two of the 10 of the group that you're competing in, of 20 guys you're competing as. Yeah. And you know how hard it is to get better at some of these technical events. It's so challenging.

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And I think there's a level of respect also with your competitor of like, man, he's a decathlete too. I know how hard he's had to train on the high hurdles and the pole vault and the discus and the shot. It's like, he just endures pain. Yeah. And it's like, so you kind of just respect, you want to beat them, but you were like, you build a brotherhood with your competitors.

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Exactly. And it's becoming your best. It's like, you may not beat the best guy, but did you get better? and become your best and have PRs at these different events.

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I've thought about a few things in the last few months. I don't know if I want to do them, but I've thought about this. My dad never let us watch the news. And so I don't watch the news today still.

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But I also don't feel anxious and stressed about like day to day, like this is all happening, the world is collapsing. Like it feels like that when you watch the news to me.

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And when I watch a clip here and there, I'm like, gosh, it just feels like there's so much bad happening, which there is, but I choose to look at the good happening and focus on the gratitude of the good and focus on how can I continue to improve the good or improve some of the bad, not focus on it as much and the world is ending. But I've been thinking about... The world's not ending.

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It is struggling, but it's not ending. For sure, yeah. But there's a lot of beauty as well if you focus on the beauty, I think. But I've thought about getting a brand new phone number. One, because I get tons of scam texts and calls all day long. And I'm just like, so I have everything on mute on my phone already just because I don't want to get any calls, inbound notifications. Sure.

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So I thought about getting a brand new number and just kind of putting like, I don't know, top 100 names that I need or something in there and just limiting distractions in general. And I thought about, unfollowing everyone, which is kind of like a big thing on Instagram for me of like, oh, I don't know if I should do this. You just mute everyone. I could just, maybe I'll just do that.

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Just so I don't get- I've started muting people. Content of stuff, right? I've started muting like tons of people. Yeah, maybe keep following to that. Yeah.

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It's social currency. That's the thing. It's like, am I going to offend someone if I do that?

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Why is that? Because we're- Why do people do that? It's passive aggression. Why do people get hurt by someone unfollowing them? It's passive aggression.

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Just mute everybody, yeah, okay. And maybe that's a better thing. Just so I don't get updates of all this stuff, you know? Or just don't open Instagram.

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I turn mine on mute so I get no buzzing or nothing. But it's not mute. You should have put it in airplane mode. That's good.

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One of your videos that I saw of yours in the past was you talking about your phone on the table here. you know, or flipped up or flipped down or whatever it might be, because you're still, you're waiting for something. Sure. Right?

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I usually leave it in my other room, but my fiancée called me right before, but... It's just, I usually leave it in my office in a whole other separate part. I hear the excuse. I mean, she was flying on a plane and I was like, she had to come back to me in three hours. So I was like, oh, anyway. She's on a plane.

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And you just call the principal to call out.

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Never. Yeah, I don't think there was time for me. I mean, going back to the whole capitalism competition and collaboration, Do you feel like friends are more collaborators or more competitive with one another than in today's society? When they see screaming and competition and fighting on TV?

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This is all borrowed time. Then why do so many people want to be rich and famous? What is missing within them that they want success, fame, or wealth, or to be known so badly?

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How do you feel, though, at this season of your life? You're only 51. You're still very young, but you've accomplished so much on a big scale. You know, the books, the TED Talks, the speaking, the business, you know, you're around the most, you know, intelligent, successful people in the world. You've got powerful friends, all these things. You've done it, right?

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How do you not look back and say, oh, my best days are behind me. Like I've won, so I just like kind of just coast the rest of my life? No, no, no, no, no, no.

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But how lasting happiness comes from contribution rather than achievement. And why friendship might be the most valuable asset that we're sacrificing in our pursuit of success. And let me tell you something. I have accomplished a lot in my life. And I'm grateful for my accomplishments.

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What do you think is the thing you'll be most proud of that you accomplish when it's all said and done?

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Everything else is cherries. That's cool. What do you think would be your most proud, I guess, non-business or non-society related accomplishment? I'm a really good uncle.

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I'm not close to it. You're not against it? Not against it. How important do you think family is in America and to society? It's essential.

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It might get him invited to certain things because of it. It might not get him invited because who knows?

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And that is really important. One of the big takeaways for me from this conversation, I always get a lot of great insights when I'm around you, Simon. We talk about a lot of topics. Yeah, it's beautiful. One of the big insights though, I think the biggest thing for me, which I think everyone can be better at, is learning the skill of conflict resolution. Yeah.

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Because- We haven't talked about it much. If you can learn the skill of conflict resolution, we flirted with it. You said the first thing is listening. I think I jumped in and said, you know, learning how to express your feelings as another thing that you were talking about. You mentioned a clear sense of your values, like understanding what are my values so I can communicate my values

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without throwing up on everyone. And also be able to listen to someone else and see, okay, is there any middle ground? And I think there's something else you said, which was interesting, which is managing insecurities. Like understanding your insecurities and being able to talk about it either with your friends or in a way where you can manage them.

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And maybe it's not good to talk about them right away with certain people when you're in a conflict, but understanding, okay, I'm feeling jealous, I'm feeling insecure, I'm feeling not heard, whatever it might be, I'm feeling a lack. and being able to manage them so that you can hopefully communicate and express what you need to communicate at the right time in the right manner.

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You've got, at Optimism Company, you've got an online human skills courses. You've got these different courses. I'm not sure if conflict resolution is one of them. If it isn't, I think it should be. I think it might be. And if it isn't, you're right. But you've got a lot of, because I think that's kind of the root of a lot of problems is people don't know how to communicate when there is conflict.

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I'm kind of that guy that once it gets the facts right, you know, it's like, I want it to be, because I feel like it's unfair. No, do not bring facts. It's unjust though.

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You're the fairness guy though. So what if someone, what if someone.

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100%, yeah. People want to learn more. What do you got in your skills courses right now? Because I think this is where you thrive is giving people human skills to be better humans. That's the goal.

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And you're like, let's create it.

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Let's create it. It's all at simonscenic.com. All the courses, the podcast. You've got a great podcast as well. A bit of optimism. People can check that out. Those are the main things you're working on these days right now.

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You should have Will on. That's interesting. He is a fricking rock star. I want to check that out. I've heard about that guy. He's amazing. My hair's awesome. He's amazing and his book is amazing. What's the book called again? Unreasonable Hospitality. Super, super proud to be the publisher.

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That's done really well. I'm going to check that out. Yeah. How else can we be of service to you today, my man?

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We'll have to do it when the next book is out. I'm sure we'll be back on. Sure. We'll do it. Come back. So make sure people check you out. Check out the courses. I think you're one of the best at teaching this stuff. Podcast, obviously, is free. But other than that, Simon, my man, appreciate you as always. Thanks. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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What's the price people pay who get famous without contribution beyond fame? Loneliness. Dissatisfaction.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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But for part of this time, in my teens and my 20s, when I was accomplishing, I was not happy because I was pursuing something to try to be seen, to try to be accepted, to try to fulfill some wound and mend something from my past and never felt good. It felt momentarily like exciting. But at the end of the day, I went back into sadness and suffering and kind of

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frustration and overwhelm and all that stuff. And so we need to be thinking about how can we truly create lasting happiness, lasting joy. And that comes from contribution rather than achievement. Now, let me say this. I love accomplishments. I love achievements. It's fun for me. You know, my new book just came out, Make Money Easy, and it hit the New York Times bestseller list. And I was like,

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And that's what that guy, the Surgeon General.

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My friend, welcome back to the School of Greatness. Today, we've got an incredibly successful entrepreneur that this audience loves every time he is on, and I'm excited to bring you another episode with him. His name is Alex Hermozy, and he's one of the most brutally honest, explosive minds on the internet today.

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So it's like, okay, if I'm gonna become more disciplined over here, that means less time over here. or less travel and just free time during this season of my life. And it's really just understanding what season of your life you're in and what you wanna create.

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This is the fear for most people is, okay, what if I make that $200,000 investment in the person, half a million dollars, and it doesn't work out. And they're lazy, they're entitled, they're this or that, and I just invested six months of my life recruiting all this money, all these things, and they're not delivering what I either expected or hoped they would. I think you'll love this.

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And again, with this trademark brutal honesty of his, he's gonna break down why most entrepreneurs fail to scale and he reveals the three critical mindset changes that transform his business approach. So whether you're just starting out or you're looking to take your business to the next level, Alex's insights on prioritization

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Yeah, exactly. What would be the third thing then? Is the third and then a bonus?

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investing in top talent and playing the long game will fundamentally change how you think about success. I'm so excited for you to dive into this episode. If this is your first time here, we have been doing this show for 12 years now on The School of Greatness. It's crazy to think this is 12 years, every single week for 12 years. That's something that I feel like

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And... It's kind of changing the perceived value within the... Oh, 100%. Yeah, yeah.

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So what are the three biggest moves you'll make this year to invest in branding that won't get you the return you want now, but will bring astronomical results later?

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When people ask me, Lewis, what's your key to success in your podcast? A little bit about what Alex talked about today is I have played the long game. I mean, I don't know many people that do anything every single week for 12 years except for breathe, eat, and sleep, but I have been showing up consistently for 12 years every single week and put out an episode

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So is it more content or is it more promoting a book

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So you had to let go of a lot of people too. Yeah. Yeah.

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So the three big mindset shifts for you this year have been focus more on the main thing, not everything. Find intelligent, hardworking people and really invest in that talent and be willing to risk losing or not working out also. And the third thing is branding. I'm betting big on brand. Really betting big on more content, higher quality content, books, things like that.

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That's cool, man. If you could go back to yourself before you started making money, what would be the mindset shift that you would have needed to have to go from more lack or scarcity into abundance?

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And we sit down and uncover the mindset shifts that have fueled his extraordinary success. And I had Alex on, I think it was almost two years ago, before He really kind of took off on the internet and online and I think that was one of the first kind of long form episodes he did.

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two episodes, three episodes for the last eight, nine years now, every week. And it's just been consistency. And I'm not always perfect, and I make mistakes, and I've got things I gotta continue to still learn and grow. But I played the long game. No one can deny that. And I think about brand. And that's one of the key things that have helped me succeed long term.

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What would you say then for those that don't have money right now is the frequency or the energy that money is attracted to?

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What would you think if money was trying to go somewhere? Money is out there. It's in the middle of the table. Sure. Sure. What is money attracted to? What type of a person is money attracted to?

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And there have been massive growth spurts, and there have been setbacks, and there have been declines in the business, in the podcast, all these different things. It's gone through phases and seasons. But I keep showing up. And if you keep showing up in your life, beautiful things are bound to happen if you're willing to set new standards.

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If you don't have money, use your time.

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Yeah. You were saying before we got started that your thoughts on manifestation, what are your thoughts on manifestation?

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And if you're looking to create more financial abundance in your life, I've got a brand new book coming out very soon. I would love for you to pre-order copy. If you found any value from my show, It would mean the world to me if you went to the link in the description of this show right now. It'll be at the top of the description. It's called Make Money Easy.

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How has your relationship with money changed then over the last few years, since selling a company to then growing your companies? Do you have a different relationship with it?

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Peanut butter mood. That's right. Let's go, man.

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It's all about creating financial freedom and living a richer life. And if you want to truly unlock your financial abundance in 2025 and beyond, then go get a copy right now It's coming out very soon and I want you to be one of the first to get it in your hands. Make money easy. You deserve to have a financial peace and freedom with the money in your life and I want you to have it.

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And it's cheaper than hiring him for two months. Totally.

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Okay, my friends. Thank you so much for being here. I'm grateful for you. Let's dive into this episode with the one and only Alex Hermozy. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guests. My man, Alex Hermozy, is in the house. Good to see you, brother. I am honored to be here. Very excited.

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What's the number one skill that people should be investing in to earn more? Promotion.

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One of the things that you just talked about before we got started was the biggest mindset shift that you've made this year that has helped you unlock more money and financial abundance. Yeah. What is that big mindset shift that's helped you go from where you were a couple of years ago when you launched, sold your company, I think around the 40-ish million mark to now over 100 million in EBITDA?

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If someone only has a few thousand dollars a year extra to spend on something, what's more important for them, to invest it in the stock market or real estate or to invest in themselves?

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What has been that mindset shift for you?

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If someone has skills, but they have a bad relationship with money, or they have money wounds, or they have money beliefs that they live in fear around whenever they receive money, are they able to earn and make a lot with those money wounds?

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How do people learn how to behave with money?

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You spend less than you make. What if people have never had money and then all of a sudden, oh, I got $1,000. And they get excited or they get scared or they get worried. How do you manage the energy that money brings to you?

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What's the most you've spent on one-on-one time?

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What was the biggest lesson he taught you in that one hour? He said, protect your reputation with your life. Did you need to spend $350,000 for that?

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Protect your reputation with your life. What does that look like? And how does one do that? When anyone can speak about them negatively online and say what they want and make stuff up or...

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And the longer people know you for one set of characteristics, the longer it's going to take for them to unlearn that.

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It got millions of views and he just became a machine of media and content and really built his own team of just putting out tons of content and has exploded his audience since then. We talk about some of the things that you might already know about. He talks about, you know, in the beginning, selling his first company for $40 million to now generating over $100 million in acquired businesses.

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You need to spend two or three years with them now to show up as you are, not two days.

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Which is why I don't have any childhood friends anymore. Of course.

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They didn't want to hang out, or when we hung out, they didn't really understand me, and they were kind of judging me, and it felt like, why are they always talking weird about me behind my back? Why am I not invited anymore to stuff? It's kind of hurtful, right? Totally.

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But at the same time, those, I guess, childhood friends that I maybe do have or I talked to once in a blue moon, they've chosen to accept the person I've become and appreciate who I still am, not expect me to be who they once knew. And I can respect them for that and not judge them on their journey and just accept them for being a friend.

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He's not judging you. He's like, you're amazing. And you keep him in his life, in your life.

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Speaking of young men and ourselves when we were younger, what would you say are three brutal truths that young men need to hear in order to become more successful in life?

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Because fulfillment is winning for you. For me. That's your hobby. Your hobby is winning. Where some people have hobbies for joy and fulfillment, you have hobbies which are to win.

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What would it take? Or she's gonna say, you need to make this much, you need to do this, you need this, and she's gonna give you the answers.

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And then do you wanna pay that price? Exactly.

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Then what do you think are the most toxic traits that young men have today that are holding them back?

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Why do so many people have that belief?

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Mm-hmm. Does it bend to your will, though?

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So what's the main focus for you then?

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But if you do a set set of actions, it starts to bend.

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But it bends to your will once you do the actions that it wants you to create for you to get the results you want.

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But because of the actions you took over the last 20 years, you were able to create extraordinary results.

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Yes. What was it this year and what will it be for the next year?

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Yeah. That's it. And you get the results you want. More likely get those results you want.

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Speaking about good decision making, you've talked about this a lot, the Solomon Paradise, where you have conversation with your 85-year-old self. Here's a question for you. We're getting close to the end here. How often do you have this conversation with your 85-year-old self?

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And so it's not... How many times in the last year would you say?

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Okay. Let's say the next time you talk to your 85-year-old self, you ask him, hey, I want to make this decision, and he gives you the advice that you need to hear subjectively outside of yourself and saying, ah, just do this, this, this, and boom, it's done.

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When you become 85 and you win at everything, everything that you do and you touch, you win at, you accomplish way more than you fail, all these things happen. What do you think will be the biggest price you pay that you'll look back on and say, I wish I would have told you to do something else. We won a ton. We wanted everything. Everything we wanted, we won.

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There was a price we paid somewhere that maybe at 85, I wish you would have taken a different choice and not looked at winning, but looked at doing something differently. Is there anything that your 85-year-old self would tell you what that could be?

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Does that mean you sold your equity stake in those?

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You had to get up and work on the farm and take care of everything. Yeah.

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And so... Did you need to do those 12 deals first, though, to see where you were?

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I guess if you're unhealthy or you're exhausted or you're drained, you'll take the time to sleep and recover. Yeah. You're not going to burn yourself out every day.

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You can't just do one deal a year to start out. You need to have some losses and...

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and i'm sure there's one that's fine with it i'm glad you're in my life i appreciate you you've got a you've got a you've got two best-selling books that have sold over a million copies each 100 million offers 100 million leads we'll link those both up you've got another book that you have coming out here in the future we'll we'll we'll announce that when you're allowed to announce it you've got a free 100 million dollar scaling course which i think is pretty cool where can people go to get that

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Wow. So that's acquisition.com for that.

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Exactly. How many pieces of content are you putting out a day on all social media now?

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So if you want 65 pieces of content a day, go follow you at Alex Hermozy on YouTube, Instagram, Hermozy, Facebook, Twitter, all the places. This has been powerful, man. I'm grateful for you for always sharing your heart. I'm glad to see that every year since two and a half years ago, there's been this...

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you know, new insights that pop up for you as you keep expanding and growing and learning and failing and winning mostly, you continue to learn more and share more here. So we appreciate you here. We're grateful for you. We acknowledge you for constantly evolving. You know, it's like the last time I saw you, you were 50 pounds heavier of just mass.

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Now you're leaning because you're focused on longevity, which I think is really cool. But either way, man, we're grateful for you here. We appreciate you. And we're excited to see what's next. Is there any final thing you want to share before we wrap up? Yeah, never give up. My man, appreciate you. Appreciate you. Thanks for having me, man. It's great, brother.

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Thank you so much for listening to this episode. If you enjoyed this and if you found value, make sure to share this with one friend. Just copy and paste the link and text a friend where you feel would be truly inspired by this episode as well.

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And also make sure to click the follow button on Apple or Spotify wherever you're listening to this episode because we have a massive episode coming up next that I do not want you to miss. So make sure to follow this and be inspired on the lookout for the next episode coming with some massive content and guests. Also, I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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So only one company, once you started the farm company, made it to the top four. Right.

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He shares his evolved understanding of focus, talent acquisition, and brand building. And he's one of the most brilliant brand builders today. More specifically, he talks about why true focus means the quality and quantity of things you say no to, and how to ruthlessly prioritize every level of your business. And this is something

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So it's like an incubator weekend. Exactly. Not a full-time incubator.

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How many of those workshops did you do?

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that I've been implementing more and more over these last couple months actually, not just in business, but in life, and really prioritizing the most important things in life, health, relationships, and business career slash money, and just planning those things and saying no to as many other things as possible. And again, with every decision you make, there's a trade-off, right?

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I mean, you've interviewed a lot of, I think you've interviewed some people in the royal family, right? I'm sorry? Have you interviewed some people in the royal family? Yeah. In Dubai? Correct. And what is the difference between those who grow up in wealth versus those that don't grow up with money?

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Because a lot of people in the royal family or the children of the royal family, they grew up in wealth. It's just around them. Is there a difference in the way they think, the way they act, the way they move? Do they have an entitlement? Are they more humble? What is the difference between growing up in wealth versus not?

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That's when everything shifted. And I just want to remind you before we jump in today's episode with my friend Anas, that you are loved and you are worthy beyond measure. It is immeasurable on how worthy and loved you are. But sometimes you just need that constant reminder.

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For someone, though, watching or listening that's saying, well, it's easy to have conviction when your parents are wealthy and you grew up in wealth. But if I didn't grow up in wealth or I have a more of a modest upbringing like us, how do I create a conviction inside of me that I feel comfortable around money and I feel comfortable money is coming to me if I don't know how to handle it?

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And I'm so grateful that you're here, part of the School of Greatness community, because this is a place where you can be constantly reminded of your worth. You matter. You are loved. You are accepted. But it starts with you. And if you're not willing to create that inner harmony and inner abundance within yourself by taking yourself

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It's interesting because I was looking at an office building a couple months ago. And... one of the units I was looking at to rent out, the broker, I was like, ah, I feel like it needs some upgrades or whatever. Would the owner put money to invest to upgrade it? And she was like, whatever you need done, she will do because she has owner's guilt. And I go, what do you mean? She goes, well,

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She got handed this building, this big building, and she's got a portfolio of like massive real estate portfolio that she didn't create. It was like her father passed away and gave her all the properties. So the broker was like, whatever you need, she's going to do it because she feels guilty. And so she'll invest in like just making it nice for you.

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Not trying to make the most money from it, but just like I'm already making so much that I didn't create. It's imposter syndrome. It's kind of just like, yeah, I'll do whatever just to make people happy type of thing. Do you notice that as well in Dubai with like children of the royal family who've been handed a lot of money?

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Do they have this kind of guilt for receiving it or they have a different level of confidence?

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on that journey of healing, peace and prosperity, then you'll always feel stuck. You'll always feel like something's off and like you're never enough. And so this is your reminder. And I just want to say thank you for always showing up for you and being here a part of the School of Greatness. And if you haven't heard yet,

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That takes extreme vision for someone like that to say, okay, we are in a plot of sand. There's nothing here. There's no infrastructure. There's no plumbing. There's no roads. There's no nothing. It's just sand, desert, and heat. And Dubai is hot, man. It's hard to freaking live there.

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So how is the conversation around money today there? Are people talking about it openly or is it still taboo in conversation?

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So when you're around the royal family or you see them, they're very sophisticated. They're very well traveled. What else do they have? They're very well educated.

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How important is marriage and family in Dubai or in the UAE? It's huge. Why? Why are they investing in people getting married?

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But if he's not competent and someone else is.

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And we work really hard here at the School of Greatness to find the best guests, the best content, the best research, and share it with you in ways that can serve your heart, your mind, in a way that helps you today. And if you're struggling today, I hope the book helps you today. I hope this interview helps you today.

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And all the content we have here on the School of Greatness helps you every single day. We are here to be of service to you. So please let me know how we can continue to help you. You can always email me. You can email us. You can send me a message on Instagram and connect there. But we're here to serve you. We appreciate you. And without further ado, let's dive into this episode today.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness. Thank you so much for being here on the School of Greatness. I want to remind you that you are a blessed human being.

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You live in Dubai, a city of wealth and of extreme luxury, but you also grew up in America. So you have a mixture of American values and Dubai culture that you live in and you are surrounded by and have interviewed some of the wealthiest people in the world. And I'm curious, what is the difference that you've learned from

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Americans and those who live in America who think about money versus business and those who think about money in Dubai? What is the difference in the mindset?

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Did you feel shame or some type of trauma when you went through the divorce based on cultural norms? Was there anything there or did you feel at peace about it?

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That's scary. Have you started to tap into your vulnerability and open your heart more since then? yeah in the latest years in the last two years maybe the first eight years no no all service all control make sure everything's safe for you really yeah how did that feel versus opening your heart more in the last couple years

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So it's more like single-minded, competitive, I'm going to get mine, I'm going to compete against you, that type of thing?

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What do you think it will take for you to fully be intimate and allow for yourself to open your heart and be deeply in love?

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What's the inner work you've been looking at that you've been most afraid to address?

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He showed me the symmetry. What's the similarities in how you approach business and relationships?

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What's the biggest lesson that you've learned about yourself in therapy?

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What do you think is your biggest block from allowing you to love deeper and feel freer that you haven't yet figured out through therapy?

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It's hard for you. But you have a show that's all about vulnerability.

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It's easy to ask the questions and hear someone else, but not be it. Interesting.

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I watched a movie a few months ago and I cried like three times. And I'm like, people next to me must be thinking I'm crazy. Man. That's interesting. And I will look forward to you being a dad. I know, I'm excited. I think you'd be a great dad. I feel like I would have been terrified in my 20s. I think I would have... I just don't think I would have done a good job.

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I mean, maybe I would have stepped to the occasion, but... I didn't have any money, I didn't have a job. I think I would've just been terrified. I wanted to be a good husband. Maybe I'd have been a good dad, but I wouldn't have been a good husband, I think, because I'd be out trying to make money and then coming home and thinking about the kids.

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Yeah, exactly. And they're going to resent you and be frustrated the whole time. Yeah. So I think that's the key in finding a... I don't know what it is. Do you know who Cesar Millan is, the dog whisperer? No. He's at a big TV show in America where he trains. He's a dog trainer. Okay. But his whole thing is he doesn't train dogs. He trains humans.

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So it's all about kind of rehabilitating humans on how to be a better leader in their life so they can lead their dog, right? Because most dogs lead the human. They're leading the way. They're pulling them.

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What is the, for a lot of people who've never been there, they think of like it's, maybe it's superficial or maybe those who have visited, it's very superficial. There's luxury everywhere. It's an excess of money. It just seems like it's just unlimited. Like it just keeps coming. Does that help or hurt values within the communities there by having that much money?

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That's what he does. Yeah. He's got to train you on how to be more confident, more assertive, all those things, right? Better relationship with yourself so that the dogs are going to look up to you and say, oh, he's a leader, not me. Yes. Anyways, he said, you know, in America, we have it all wrong. In American families, when he's training mothers and fathers, right?

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And he said, he usually goes, the priority is, you know, mom first, then dad. then kids, then husband. And the husband is like, you know, what's in this for me? If I'm the last person here and I'm always, and I'm out hunting and provider, I'm working my butt for this family and, She's putting the dog ahead of me.

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And I'm sure the woman probably feels last in some cases too, but he was explaining how you've got to have the parents first priority, then the children, then the dog.

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What do you think it's going to take from you to be able to create that in a relationship in your life in the future? Because you've lived a life now of 10 years of Singleness of, in a way, selfishness of not having to obviously show up for your ex-wife in certain ways, but it's not as invested in a partnership that you would have right now. Correct.

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You show up for your kids, all these things, but you're not in an intimate relationship where you're committed. What do you think it's going to take from you to be able to fully commit in a relationship and go all in and keep winning her over every day for years? Man, I like your questions, Lewis. Because it's probably been a pretty good life over the last decade. Freedom.

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I don't have to, surface level, I can have fun with people. I don't have to fully commit. I don't have to open my heart. I don't get hurt. I'm in control. I end it when I'm done.

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Or what does that do to values or communities?

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This one, man. I've got two final questions for you. Okay. But I want to make sure people go follow you over on Instagram. You've got millions of followers on Instagram. You've got a massive YouTube show as well. Where should we connect with you the most? Where are you the most? Is it YouTube? Is it Instagram? Is it...

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It's the same name, Anas Bokash, on YouTube and Instagram. We'll have that linked up. We'll check that out there. How else can we be of service to you today?

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and i like people like that yeah you know very similar yeah we are yeah so uh i don't want anything i think your company is nice uh and you're a good person so it's nice to bugger good to see you brother i got two final questions for you before i ask my own acknowledge you also for your evolution i think uh being a successful business entrepreneur leader you know you have a massive following i think you talking about hey

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I've lived a pretty good life, but I've also been holding back in my heart in certain ways that could expand me emotionally and help me evolve as a human. I think it's powerful for people to hear because living in Dubai, you could have anything you want at any time, you know?

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whether girls or whether it be food or, you know, opportunities, like you can have it all, it seems like, which can be fun and tempting, but also, is it always fulfilling? Is it gonna allow you to fully dive in and expand your inner world in that lifestyle? So you talking about this and you diving in with a therapist finally, I think it's a good thing, and I acknowledge you for taking that on.

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And I'm excited to see what you create with your heart moving forward. You deserve to feel the expansive love of feeling fully emotionally safe within a relationship.

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I feel like I wouldn't get married if I didn't feel that way at this age. I would just stay single forever unless I felt emotional safety.

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Hard as that. That's beautiful, man. I want that for you. Final question, my man. What's your definition of greatness?

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And if anyone ever tries to discount you, I want you to remember that you are worthier than you think. You have more value than you think. You are deserving of love and peace more than you think. And sometimes we forget that. I know for most of my life, I didn't believe I had worth. based on the experiences I went through and based on the meaning that I interpreted around those events in my life.

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So that's greatness. Thank you, man. Appreciate you, brother. You too. Thanks, man. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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What is the mindset about how to generate wealth? How is it different with people in Dubai then versus in America from your experience? How do they think about money differently? Is it scary? Is it something they're anxious about? Are they holding on to it? Or are they thinking, I'll spend it, invest it, because I'm going to create more of it?

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Really? Yeah. Is there, do people talk about money differently though? Is it like an open conversation? Because I feel like a lot of people live in fear around money or it's taboo to talk about sometimes, or it's hard to get in America sometimes. They see a few people, the 1% getting it and they're like, okay, maybe it's possible for them, but not for me.

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How's the conversation around abundance and money different in Dubai?

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How did you, I mean, when you grew up here, though, what was your perspective around money growing up in the States? Did your parents talk about it openly? Was it a free-flowing conversation? Was it, hey, we don't have a lot of it, so don't go spend this. We can't buy this. What was that conversation like? And did it shift when you started to go to Dubai more?

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And in fact, for many years, I thought I was unworthy and unlovable. And so I had to prove myself. I had to over accomplish. I had to overcompensate. I had to, you know, boost my ego to feel like I mattered.

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And when I lived in Boston... That was when you were in Boston.

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When did you start to think about money differently? Because it sounds like you grew up where it wasn't talked about, your parents didn't talk about it, and you weren't allowed to have open conversations. So when did the shift happen for you where you said, I need to learn about money differently to be able to run my business or to be able to raise the kids I have or whatever it might be?

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And for whatever reason, the more I chased accomplishments and success from a place of a wound and the more I ran away from my past pain instead of healing and creating integrating relationship with myself. creating boundaries in life with others, making sure I was going away from people pleasing and living in true alignment service rather than trying to please to try to be accepted or seen.

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What year is that? And when did it start to unlock where money flowed to you?

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There are two big things happening at one time that I've never done before. I'm going on a book tour for my new book, Make Money Easy, and I'm doing a podcast tour at the same time. It is going to be big and I'm going to seven cities in 10 days. Get your friends, get your family, bring everyone you know to these cities. I'm coming to Austin, Texas, New York, Boston. We're going to Nashville.

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I don't know. Why is it so hard as adult children to break the family trance, though, of conditioning from parents guilting or you need to come visit me more or why don't you call me more or you're not doing this more or whatever? Yeah.

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It's the fantasy that holds us back.

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Stop looking for what? A beautiful childhood or whatever?

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What are the warning signs then that show up in adult children of narcissistic parents? Let's then take a look at that. Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest today. We have the inspiring Jerry Wise in the house. And a quick bio about Jerry. He's the leading expert in healing from family and relationship dysfunction through self differentiation.

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So what should adult children stop trying to do with their parents? Stop needing them as parents. Really?

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Is it supposed to end, though, at 18 for everyone?

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But some people live with their parents until they're 30.

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It's interesting because the people watching and listening right now, if you're listening, if you're watching this right now, I want you to leave a comment below and say if you had a happy, like if your parents loved you, supported you, approved of you, most of the time, comment below, happy childhood.

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If you feel like your parent, you could never get the approval of your parents, they were never satisfied with you, they're always judging and critical of you, type in challenging childhood in the comments below. And I'm curious, what is the pro and con of having a healthy relationship with your parents

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versus an unhealthy relationship with your parents, wanting them to approve and love you as adults.

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Even if they do apologize, it still may not solve the problem. Yeah, you'll have to fix it still.

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You've been doing this work for over 45 years. as a therapist and a coach, and you've helped thousands of people worldwide break free from dysfunctional family patterns and discover their true selves. And this could possibly be one of the most powerful conversations we have here.

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You know, it's interesting that you say that. I was sexually abused when I was five by a man that I didn't know. And I've talked about it openly on this show many times. But for those that are here the first time, it was something that haunted me for 25 years. For 25 years, I held onto it. I felt shame. I felt sadness. I felt anger, rage, all these different things.

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And it was a movie that played in my mind over and over again for 25 years. And it drove me without even knowing it, unconsciously, to protect myself, to defend myself, to... Not trust? Yeah, not trust. If someone's trying to take advantage of me, I'm going to, you know, get big and strong and all these different things. And I need to be right and I need to win.

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And in some ways, it helped me accomplish certain goals, but left me feeling very empty as well.

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All. But sorry to interrupt. And I got to a point... when I was 30, so 25 years later, where it was too much. It was too much and it all kind of came out, right? It came out at one point after about a year of just breakdowns continuing to happen, where it forced me to look within and stop blaming everyone else of like, why is these things happening in my life?

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And it got to a point where I said, okay, I'm actually gonna dive deeper and start working on myself. and start unpacking things from childhood and start really reflecting on these things. And I went to workshops, all the therapy, coaching, all the different things. And I got to a point where I finally, opened up and talked about it in a safe environment.

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And then I started talking about it and letting my family know, some of my friends, and started talking about it publicly. And I don't think everyone should talk about their stuff publicly, but I had a platform I felt the need to, I felt pulled to, I felt like inspired to. And there came to a point where maybe it was a couple years after I started to process and heal that journey, and...

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self-regulate the memory and self differentiate from that wound. where I was like, do I need to confront this person? And I don't even know where the person is. I don't know where the person is or if they're alive or not. But I was like, what's that going to do for me? I got to a point where I was like, I don't need to, and I'm at peace with it. But what should I do about that?

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Yeah, but I didn't feel like I need to confront this to finish the job of my healing. I was like, this is my work to do. And no matter what this person would say, it's not going to help me.

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I'm not just saying that, even though we've done this show for 12 years, because in my mind, we've talked a lot about narcissism and relationships and narcissism, but we haven't covered if you have experienced life with a narcissistic parent and the clear signs of if your parents were narcissistic or on the spectrum in any ways and how that impacts you for everything in your life.

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Unless it's a family member that you want to talk about something.

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Some ongoing relationship or something. This is something interesting you said. It's never too late to have a happy childhood. If we had a horrible childhood and we're in our 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, and we just think, man, my childhood was miserable. It was challenging. I don't have many good memories. How can you have a good childhood as an adult if all you had is bad memories as a child?

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When you become a parent, when you grow up, when you... Remove yourself from the parent.

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By you becoming the parent to yourself.

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I saw a clip of an interview online of someone, a really successful billionaire entrepreneur, probably in his 70s. And he said the key to success in life was having adult children that still want to hang out with you, not because of your money or your success.

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Wow. What I'm hearing you say is that the key to setting up your family legacy to have the best or the healthiest lives they can have, is to start by healing the child within you.

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Okay, let's break down both of those. Going on. What would be the... And healing the child within you is not an overnight thing. What would be the keys to whether someone says, ah, I don't need to work on my inner child. That seems like baloney or just it's not for me. I do a lot of my own work already. I don't need to dive deeper into this stuff. It seems like whatever.

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And so I'm curious if we could start, Jerry, with what are the clear signs that you could start reflecting and asking yourself if one of your parents were narcissistic in any way?

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But if they were like, let me listen to this and just see what he's talking about, what would be the first three keys or steps to addressing how to heal the inner child within us?

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So when we are in conflict with ourselves or hypercritical of ourselves, whether it be our adult or inner child self, how is that hurting us or helping us?

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What's always been done doesn't mean it's the best way that you can live your life.

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Yeah, you may not be doing this to others, but you're doing it to you.

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What do you think it is, if our inner child was able to speak authentically 100% of the time and say what our inner child truly wants and desires, and they had a voice, what would our inner child be saying all the time?

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How does someone learn how to get the family out of them, the family dysfunction out of them, while also being a part of the family?

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Yes, which I think a lot of people struggle with, with their parents or family.

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That's so interesting you say this, Jerry, because for those that are listening and not watching and not able to see the hand gestures, you had your hands together enmeshed versus far apart and then closer together but not touching. It's interesting because I left home at 13. And I begged my parents to send me away to a private boarding school that was about seven hours away.

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Begged them for a summer, and they did not want me to leave. But I knew my parents loved me, but I didn't feel emotionally safe in the house because of their relationship. My father was there for me, my mother was there for me at different times, but they weren't there for each other. My, you know, again, I was sexually abused by a man that I didn't know when I was five.

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It wasn't anyone in the family, thankfully. And then my brother went to prison when I was eight for four and a half years, my older brother, 11 years older. So that was just a challenging season of life that the family dynamic faced. And my parents just weren't, they shouldn't have been married, essentially. They were just not happy in their marriage.

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They did their best, they tried, but they weren't, they eventually got divorced when I was a teenager.

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But as a 12-and-a-half-year-old, I wanted out. Get me out of here. I want to be around better environment, better friends, better everything. And I went from enmeshed to, you know, as far away as I could be. And over the years, I've had to relearn how to get closer, but not, you know, not too far, but not enmeshed, but closer because I would go months without talking.

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And I felt safe being alone because I felt unsafe being enmeshed. And again, I knew my parents loved me and they showed up for me and they went to my games and they did the best they could. Right, they did. Right.

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But it was just like with the life experience I had, I didn't know how to navigate the emotional unsafety that I felt from their lack of love with each other and the chaos it felt like it was having. And so it was years of unlearning, of healing, of all these different things to...

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self-differentiate from my childhood and from certain people in my family so that I could love myself and love them for who they are.

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So instead of trying to change our parent or change our spouse for what we don't like about them, what should we be trying to do instead to create a healthier relationship with them?

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Really? Even though you were in the practice?

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Ooh, rough on the feathers over here.

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And then everyone's waiting to eat. The food is out.

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So you started to break the cycle a little bit and create a shift.

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So your mom, did she get upset with you when you didn't do this? Did she give you a stare?

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How old were you at this time? Do you remember roughly? Probably in my 20s. Oh, wow. Okay. And you were the youngest of... And I was the youngest of three. Wow.

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Sometimes maybe you do, sometimes you don't, right?

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It was so hard. Oh, it was just. When did you, did you finally say no or no?

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Wow. So it sounds like what I'm hearing you say is you can't expect to change your parents, you can't expect to change your spouse or your partner, but you can change the dynamic you have with your parents or your spouse. Exactly. And when you start to do that, you're self-differentiating from a dynamic that once was into a new dynamic.

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Now, here's an interesting question for you. As someone who has worked with individuals and dysfunctional families for 45 plus years, coaching, therapy, all these different things, helping them heal and self-differentiate, I hope to be a parent one day.

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And for those watching or listening who are parents, what's the best way they can set up their family to be as healthy as possible for their children to thrive and also love and accept each other and have a healthy family dynamic? Or if someone's got some older kids and they realize, oh, maybe I've done some stuff. And many have. I have too. And they're in their teens now.

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How can I start to change the family dynamic so that my kids feel empowered to be themselves within the family as well?

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Yeah. You need the messenger to be in alignment with the message. Exactly. Exactly. Now, so it sounds like step one, if you want to be a great parent, start reparenting yourself and healing the inner child. Step two, learn self-differentiation from your own family as well. Absolutely. But self-differentiation, it starts with like these small courageous steps, it sounds like.

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You're just dysfunctional. You're just dysfunctional.

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It doesn't have to be, I'm going to explode the family dynamic overnight. But it's like, mom wants me to do this. and she's been wanting me to do it my whole life, and I've always done it, and I'm not gonna do it anymore. Dad wants me to do this, and I'm gonna say, hey, that doesn't work for me anymore. Whatever it is, it's the small resistances.

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Yeah, because one of the challenges I felt like I lived with, and I think a lot of people probably lived with when they had dysfunctional families, is trying to keep the peace. It's trying to not upset mom or upset dad or upset your siblings. It's like, do what you need to in your role to keep the peace.

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But don't we need roles, too? In, like, relationships, aren't there supposed to be roles in, like, how to support one another or agreements?

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To seek approval? Is it to survival?

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How do you reduce the chronic anxiety of a family dynamic?

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Two. Right. In self-differentiation.

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Barely change. Barely. Maybe they shift the role a little bit.

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Yeah, it's interesting. You talked about inheriting the family enmeshment. Until we are self-aware, learn to self-regulate and self-differentiate, we're going to inherit this family dynamic, this dysfunction, it sounds like. Here's a scary question. Can you inherit narcissism from a parent if you have a narcissistic parent?

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What's the worst thing a parent could do then to their kids over and over again that will... almost surely make them dysfunctional as an adult? Is it never apologizing to them when they- That's too symptomatic.

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With all of your work as a therapist, a family therapist, and a family dysfunctional dynamics that you've experienced and studied and supported for the last 45 years, if you were to design a narcissistic kid to grow up and be narcissistic, What would be the elements?

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Not that you would do this, but if you're like, hey, if you do these things and this and this and this, you might create a narcissist. Well, there's some classic thing we think about,

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I think one that I want to ask you is, how can someone with narcissistic parents set healthy boundaries as an adult where they stay connected to their parent, but they're not enmeshed with that parent anymore? And they don't play the role that they've been playing for a long time.

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But these are your parents. They've given you so much. They've supported you your whole life.

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Right. Then you don't owe them anything else.

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I guess 18. I don't know. Is that what you're saying? Is that the age? I don't know. Do we ever owe them anything?

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That's the thing we should say.

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And I didn't. But it seems like there's this unspoken agreement or expectation that the child is supposed to take care of. Look at all I've done for you. All I've done for you.

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But you owe me your life. I don't know.

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Now you need to take care of me because I took care of you. Right.

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Otherwise, you're just continuing the cycle of enmeshment, generational trauma, and you're showing the next generation how to treat each other. And on a billboard, yes. Gosh, but it just seems so hard for people because they're like, well, this is how it's always been.

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So bringing the generational trauma onward.

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And they're in control. They're pressuring you or judging you.

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Even if it went every day for months, it was still never enough. It would never be enough. But you have to create inner boundaries first.

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Right. Not because she's guilting me.

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And you have to stop caring about that.

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And so I'm okay with being the bad son. You've accepted that your mother's perception of you was you were not good enough or not being the good son. And you learned to accept her perspective or perception of you. You didn't have to agree with it.

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He shows up every week for you.

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Yeah, such a tough life, yeah. Sorry. But what if she keeps shaming you and making you wrong constantly? So you would like me to visit you less? Yeah. Is that what you're asking? Isn't it interesting, the more you appreciate anyone, whether it's a parent, child, sibling, relationship, whatever, the more you appreciate someone, typically that relationship appreciates in value.

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It grows in value because it feels appreciated. When you shame, belittle, make wrong, it diminishes in value. It diminishes. Right? It's like you don't want to be around that anymore. Right? Or you don't feel good when you are around it. You're regretting having to show up. You're like resistant to it.

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That's a symptom of something.

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Yeah. Self-differentiation. That's powerful. Jerry, this has been powerful. And I want people to follow you over on YouTube slash Jerry Wise and everywhere else, jerrywiserelationshipsystems.com. You've got a free training on your site as well, where people can go through more of your systems and your processes for understanding how to navigate change.

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dysfunctional family relationships, how to start healing, how to start becoming more self-aware, self-regulated, differentiated, all these different things. I want people to go to your website and check this out. You're all over social media as well. Again, Jerry Wise.

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And you've got just a wealth of information on how to navigate probably one of the most challenging things, which is family dynamics and the dynamic you have with your inner child and self. And so I wanna acknowledge you for the decades of service you've had towards understanding, researching and helping human beings find more peace and harmony in their relationships. Because like you said,

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I think the most important thing in the world is the family units and having families be healthy and happy and individualistic as well within a family so they can be authentic and not a pseudo self. So I wanna acknowledge you for the work, the journey and the commitment you have to helping families heal. in a world where it seems like there's a lot of stress and chaos in families.

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And there's two final questions I have for you. This one is a hypothetical question I ask everyone at the end of our conversations. It's called the three truths. So imagine you get to live as long as you want, Jerry, but it's the last day in the future for you. And you get to accomplish everything you want and see the people in your life flourish and everything else all comes true.

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But on the last day for you, you have to take all of your work with you. So this conversation is gone. All the content you've ever put out there, no one has access to your content anymore. But on the last day, you get to leave behind three final lessons. And we would have access to this information. What would be those three lessons to the world or three truths?

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Beautiful. And final question, Jerry, what's your definition of greatness?

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Jerry Wise, thanks so much for being here. I appreciate it.

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Powerful. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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But that's the underlying important dynamic. And if we don't break the trance of the family, the origin family of ours, if we don't break that trance, then we're just going to relive that pattern in our adult relationships as well.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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Interesting. Here's the real question then. If we start to think about, oh, maybe my parents had some narcissistic tendencies and I'm starting to think about it and I'm starting to evaluate my childhood and realize, oh, I thought this was just normal because it's the only thing I knew. How many families did we grow up in? Yeah, right?

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And it wasn't as bad as that family, so I got to be grateful for this. Yeah, and we should. And my parents were loving at times, and they gave us, and they were doing the best they could. So I can't think of them as narcissistic, but we start to internalize that. What are the warning signs then that show up in adult children of narcissistic parents?

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And so as adult children, What should we be thinking about if we felt like we had a dysfunctional childhood? Should we be thinking about how do I get myself to be self-differentiated from my parents and my family? How do I block my family completely? How do I heal the past?

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Like, what should we be thinking about as we come into awareness as adult children of dysfunctional childhoods or narcissistic parents?

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And then I'll try to overcompensate or approval or whatever.

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There are two big things happening at one time that I've never done before. I'm going on a book tour for my new book, Make Money Easy, and I'm doing a podcast tour at the same time. It is going to be big and I'm going to seven cities in 10 days. Get your friends, get your family, bring everyone you know to these cities. I'm coming to Austin, Texas, New York, Boston. We're going to Nashville.

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Why is it though that some extremely successful business leaders or wealthy individuals have a lot of anxiety that they can't get rid of?

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But what you're going to hear today is probably something you'll never hear from any of other of her content unless she starts talking about it again, because she got very open, very vulnerable and very raw in a way that I've never seen her emotionally. And it's it shocked me a little bit because there is so much about her when you peel back the layers.

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Yeah. When was the time when you started to make some serious money? How old were you when you started to make? Because I know you guys had no money at one point. Yeah. I think you might have slept in like your guy's car or something or was like, didn't you guys sleep in a car for a bit?

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Okay, cool. Maybe he slept in his car at one point. I can't remember if he said that. We had a car for sure. Okay, anyways. But there's a point in your life where you weren't making any money. Yeah. Right? And then there was a point in your life where you started to make some money and then a lot more money. Yeah. Did you always feel like you were worthy and deserving of making money? No.

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When did that start to change that you felt like I'm worthy of making money? I don't think I'm worthy of making money. Still? You don't think you're worthy?

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Do you feel like you're deserving of making the money that you have or the money that you have now you're worthy of having it?

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What shifted for you to believe you were capable of making money? I made money.

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about her that makes her unique from her past, from her story, and all the challenges that she faced, where she had to overcome so much to develop certain skills that are essential for business today. And if you've gone through any challenges in your life, you have developed certain skills as well, whether you're aware of it or not.

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Like I was like, when's it all going away or stopping?

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And now- So you needed to see it in order to believe it. I needed to do it, yeah. Do it and then see the results of doing it.

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What would shake your competence today? Like if you lost a bunch of money or if you hired, stole money from you and then you had to fire them over and over again or if bad things happened in business or whatever like would it shake your competence or would it not affect you?

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And I was like... Look at all the gains.

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Plus time, energy. Yeah. Pulling you away from other things.

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And hopefully this interview with Layla will support you in figuring out just what those skills are, because you are unique and talented. And maybe you just haven't uncovered or peeled back the layers yet on what those skills and talents are to create the abundance in your life. And speaking of abundance, I have a brand new book coming out called Make Money Easy.

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Sometimes you're going to miss. The process stays the same, or maybe you learn a lesson from the process of why it didn't work, and you tweak it for the next process. You upgrade the process. The outcome is not always going to be the way you want.

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Yeah. Because you could have the same process and one company crush and the other one go bankrupt, right? Yeah. Because you can't control human factors or if the CEO quits or whatever it is, like the product doesn't work anymore or something like that.

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What is the biggest lesson you've learned about winning so much over the last couple of years that you didn't expect you would learn? Winning never feels good in the moment.

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And it's all about creating financial freedom and living a richer life. Most people are not living in abundance. They don't feel like they have a rich life externally, and they don't have a rich life or inner peace internally. And this book is all about giving you the exact steps in the entire framework for creating your path to peace, freedom, and a financial abundance.

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What are the things that your future self has that you don't have right now? Or what is she able to overcome or create or generate?

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So she learns to become more flexible than you are today.

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When you have losses and wins, And negative thoughts creep up. How do you start to reframe those negative thoughts to actually fuel you for success in the future rather than limit you?

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Negative thoughts, doubts, doubting myself. How often do you have negative thoughts? More often than positive ones. Really? Yeah.

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Yeah. What are these negative thoughts that you have? What are they thinking or what are you thinking and saying in your mind?

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And it starts with the inner work. It starts with understanding your money story. your money wounds, and your money style. Once you're aware of those, we talk about how to get that clarity on what those are for you through certain assessments in the book. Then we talk about the seven habits, the seven money mindset habits to unlock abundance in your life.

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Really? Yeah. And how frequent are those stories? Daily. Really?

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So how do you use them then to get the success you want?

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And it's almost like, is this a helpful thought in helping me accomplish my goals?

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What would you say then is the biggest thing that is holding back young female entrepreneurs today?

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You know what's funny? I wasn't going to say female because I knew you were going to say this. I swear to God, I wasn't going to say this. But I'm thinking the only reason I said female, and it's so funny you said that because the only reason I'm thinking that is because I feel like some women are going to say that they really relate to you and how you...

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worry about how people judge you or something, right? And so I was thinking, is that the thing that females have over male entrepreneurs? Because I don't think Alex is thinking about, oh, people judge the way I look. I don't think he's worried about that in running a business. You know what I mean?

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So I knew you were going to say this, but I feel like women need to know, or I feel like you would have a pulse on what maybe women are... are experiencing and what's holding them back from being a successful entrepreneur or from the ability to make more money or whatever it might be. So I'm glad you said that at response, but hopefully you have another answer as well.

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Okay. So the biggest thing that's holding female entrepreneurs back?

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It doesn't change my life. Sure. From your experience then, from the challenges you had growing up to where you are now, what would you say are three truths that young women need to know about what's holding them back in life in general?

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Right, right, right. They need to respect you.

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But what if, Layla, people are saying, you know, that seems very unapproachable because my body is expressing itself to me or I just feel like the world is throwing so much chaos on me that it's impossible to regulate emotions. She's out of touch. She's got money. She's got people that help her with things. I don't have that help or that money. So it's exhausting to regulate emotions.

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And we're doing a live special guest in every city as well. for a podcast tour at the same time. So we're doing a book tour and a podcast tour at the same time. You're getting a two-for-one, baby. Let's go. I'm super excited about this, and I hope to see you there. If you're coming, bring your friends, bring your family. It's going to be a fun evening in one of those cities.

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you realize you can achieve your dreams because you learned how to do this. You become someone new.

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And so that's the first, that's the first truth that you'd say.

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What's the second thing that holds women back? Fear of judgment.

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But I am excited for what you're about to experience right now. Again, a side of Leila Hormozy that I've never seen before that I'm not sure if you'll ever experience again. So make sure to pay attention, take notes, share this with one or two friends that you think will be inspired by this as well. And let's dive in with the one and only Leila Hormozy.

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Right. You weren't being authentic to yourself. No.

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Let's say you got a billion dollars in the bank, cash in the bank. What is the best use of that money for you? What will bring you the most joy and the greatest impact if you're able to generate that much money in the bank?

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when you've accomplished all these big goals.

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Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring, incredible business leader, Leila Hormozy. Good to see you. Nice to meet you. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. We met a few years ago. Yeah. And you and your husband, Alex, just sold a company, and you were looking to launch acquisitions.com.

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Yeah. More community. Yeah. Yeah. You a hypothetical scenario if you were able to be a psychologist detached from yourself But you were looking at yourself as a psychologist and You were able to analyze your entire life since you know you everything you've been through all the ups and downs every thought every emotion every heartbreak every joy and You're the psychologist

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What would you say are the three main things that have built you into becoming the successful person that you are? What are the drivers?

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And gullible enough to be like, ah, I can make it happen. Yeah, yeah.

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What's the question you wish more people asked you that they never ask?

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What's the thing that you have now that your 20-year-old self didn't have?

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So you wish people would ask less about Alex and more about you.

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You didn't have that in your 20s, teens? No. What did it look like back then? Because didn't I read you went to jail a bunch of times and had a really chaotic...

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Yeah. What's he like in the gym? Yeah. What's he do? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. I'm just like, this isn't valuable. What's the, uh, you know, not to speak about him, but I just did interview him before you. He says he has this more of a reference to what he's talked about. He has a thing called the Solomon Paradox or whatever, where he has a conversation with himself at 85.

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He said it's been about five times this year he's had this conversation with his 85-year-old hypothetical self.

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Do you ever have a conversation with your older self and ask what do I need to do or what lesson do I need to learn right now to help me get to where I want to be at 85?

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It's almost like what are your values demand of you doing?

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But I'm like, this founder just comes up with my values.

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When did you discover your values and what are those core values for you now?

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Sincere candor, unimpeachable character, competitive greatness.

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But you don't have a book yourself yet. No. Are you thinking of writing one in the future or you're not sure? I really want to write one. Really don't think. It's a lot of work though.

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That's cool. Yeah. You guys crushed it. But are you a part of, did you help create the, uh, scaling course also the free hundred million dollar scaling course?

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That's both of us. Okay, cool. Is that the main thing we'd want to send people to today? Or is there something else besides following you on social media everywhere that we'd want to send people to?

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I would say the scaling course or my podcast is probably fine.

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Yeah. What's the what's your podcast? Where can people find it?

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Build, Layla Hormozy Build. I don't know. Is there a link? Apple, Spotify, YouTube. Apple, Spotify, YouTube, Layla Hormozy Build. That's where I would send it.

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So people can check out your podcast, Build with Layla Hormozy. Social media, Layla Hormozy everywhere. YouTube, Instagram, et cetera. Acquisition.com if people are interested in learning more about what you guys are up to there. That's where they can get the course also, the free $100 million scaling course. Alex said there's a link there somewhere for it.

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So I'm assuming it'll be on there at acquisition.com. Anything else we can do to be of service to you today?

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I appreciate it. I got two final questions. This is a question I ask everyone at the end. It's called the three truths. So imagine a hypothetical scenario. You get to live as long as you want on this earth, but it's the last day. And you get to accomplish all of your wildest dreams. These 10-year goals and you blow through those in the next 20 or 50-year goals, they all happen.

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But for whatever reason in this hypothetical scenario, all of your rants on your podcast are deleted. This content is gone. Every piece of content you've ever put out, we don't have access to. So we don't have your information anymore of what you've shared. But on the last day, Layla, you get to leave behind three lessons to the world. And this is all we would have to remember you by your content.

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What would those three lessons be for you?

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Was this before she attempted to kill herself?

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I just don't think I've seen this type of content from you. And I wanna acknowledge you for leaning into this and expressing in this way, because I think it's actually gonna help a lot more people than you think. And whether millions of people watch this or hundreds of people, the people that watch and listen are gonna be deeply impacted for a long time because of what you said today.

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Because I think people see you or perceive you in a certain way. And what you shared today just, You showed people a different side of you. I think that is gonna give people a lot more hope in order to overcome certain pains and challenges they have in their life right now.

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and hopefully just getting into taking the actions, the successful actions, so they can become more successful and not allowing their negative thoughts or their emotions to consume their life and think they're not worthy of accomplishing what they want. So I want to acknowledge you for opening up and sharing and also for being on your own journey at 32, I think you said.

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I think you were allowed to talk about your age, but at 32. Just being able to navigate and manage it all.

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um thank you harmoniously all the the business the judgment the pressure the media it's like you got a lot going on and seeing you navigate it imperfectly but smoothly at the same time it's really beautiful to watch so i acknowledge you for that and um i'm excited to see what you create not only in the next few years but these 10-year goals that i've got written down so i want to keep in track and see what happens um my final question layla what's your definition of greatness

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Child services or whatever. So this is when you're like 13 through 15?

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And so... Your parents were divorced before then?

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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And so then... So you were with your mom alone most of the time then?

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What is that like getting arrested six times?

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Wow. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I've never been arrested. I hope it never happens because I just don't know. what state you need to be in to keep getting arrested. So I can only assume that you were in a,

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I have got a special guest today. Leila Hormozy is in the house. Most people know of Alex Hormozy. We've had him on here a few different times, and he has blown up our content. People love it. People can't stop watching and listening to it, and they're sharing it all over the place. But I said, you know what? I want to hear what the real brains behind that business is all about.

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So what would it look like if you're feeling anxious now versus anxious back then? How does that look? Are you having a conversation with yourself? Are you talking to the anxiety part of you? Did you used to shame yourself when that happened? Like what are you doing now versus then that allows you to feel more joyful and peaceful versus stressful and crappy?

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Yeah. You still weren't addressing it though.

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That's interesting because it sounds like first when you'd feel a negative emotion, you would react to it with a negative response.

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Drugs, alcohol, whatever, numbing, some numbing mechanism. Yeah. Then you... said, okay, this doesn't feel good anymore and I'm getting bad results by doing this. So let me try to do something productive when I feel stressed. So you reacted with working harder, working out, trying to eat better, whatever it might be, but you still felt the stress and anxiety. Totally.

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But at least there was a better result, but not better external result, but not internal result. Now you face it and you feel it and kind of reflect in the moment, give yourself a pause and then you get back into something productive.

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And I'm half joking here. But Leila Hermosi, Alex's wife, he will say she is the brains. She's the one operating the business. She's coordinating, hiring, getting great talent, all these different things. She is the one that's kind of keeping it all together while Alex is the face and he's creating content and he's doing lead gen and marketing. But she's...

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Was there a moment in your life like where someone taught you this or you had someone confront you or coach you or mentor you that said, hey, I see you doing these things and it's not helping. Here's another approach. Or was this just an internal reflection?

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You're like, something's wrong with me. I shouldn't have these feelings or these emotions.

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creating the operations and she's running the business in a big way. And what makes this conversation special is Layla's vulnerable exploration of her mental and emotional skills that drive true success far beyond just business tactics. I've seen other content of her that's kind of talking right into analytics, right into tactics, right into here are the steps.

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I saw this video online of Jim Carrey saying depression is something like deep rest. It's like your body needing deep rest from the character you've been playing.

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And I really liked the way he interpreted it. He was like, I was depressed, but it was like, I was playing a character that wasn't serving me or my spiritual abilities at the highest level anymore. And he was literally playing characters in movies, but he was probably playing a character in the world also. And he was like, depression is deep rest.

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One like I've never done before that I think will be extremely interesting and powerful for you if you're open to going through it with me. Talk about all these different points in transcending the parts of ourselves that hold us back. And she also mentions this divine hunger and how we're starving

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It's your body saying you need deep rest from the character you've been playing. And I really liked that perspective. It's like, what have we been trying to... portray what masks have we been wearing to fit in, to try to belong, to try to compare ourselves or be judgmental towards what we're seeing on social media or with our friends and how we can live up to some standard or something like that.

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And so you're—what is the science, though, that proves— I love that.

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If someone is feeling this state of depression right now, and maybe they've been feeling a depression for years, and they've been using substances to try to numb and remove the depression, alcohol, smoking, vaping, drugs, pornography, whatever the addiction is to try to depress the depression, will that ever get them out of depression using substances?

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Yeah. Another quote you have is you said, right now we're not studying spirituality. We've been educated out of our awakened awareness. We've been educated out of our spiritual awareness, right? who is educating us out of our spiritual awareness? Is it schools? Is it our parents? Is it teachers? Is it the government? What is getting us out of our awakened awareness?

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But why is it so hard for people to believe that life is happening for them instead of to them when they have so many bad things happening all at once? It seems like the world is against me. This person left me. This person robbed me. This person lied to me. This person stole from me. My parents abandoned me. This person cheated on me. It's all happening all at once. How is this happening for me?

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How, God, is this happening for me? And the world's just not against me. Right.

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And copy and paste this link and send it to one or two friends that you think this could inspire them. You know, we have a gift every single day to bring joy to others. That can be through your presence. That can be through a simple text message, a phone call, giving someone a smile or a hug. And I think this could be one of those things for you today.

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That's a choice. When you choose to love even when everything's against you.

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Did you go with Arthur Brooks? I was meant to go on that trip, but we had other plans.

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What was the question you asked the Dalai Lama?

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Why? Why love deeper when people have hurt you so badly?

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Yeah, I mean, I was telling her before, just being in a state of a journey of healing so that I could first become peace myself and become open to possibilities and synchronicities. And being committed to the journey of healing was what I think allowed me to see Martha in front of me and say, wow, this is amazing.

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So send a link to someone where you feel like they could blend science and spirituality to serve their life in a better way. Without further ado, let's dive into this episode with Dr. Lisa Miller. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest and the conversation we're about to have. We have Dr. Lisa Miller in the house, and I am excited about this.

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This is something that is starting from a spiritual connection rather than a sexual connection. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. That's different. I've never looked at this this way in a relationship, starting a relationship. And making it a commitment to myself on a daily basis when I connected with her to say, how can we make this spiritual and not sexual?

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Which was kind of the opposite of what I'd done in every relationship before, which was like, I'm sexually attracted, let's have fun, whatever, and then think about the spirituality later. And there was always some out of alignment. It was like a forced energy. And this just felt more... It just felt aligned. It felt harmonious. It felt more peaceful.

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And that space of being aware of past wounds and mending and be on the journey of mending those wounds gave me more clarity and more awareness to see what was in front of me and to see, okay, what's possible for us if we can sync up synchronistically from a place of... consciously creating a spiritual relationship first and seeing what's possible.

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It doesn't mean we're perfect for each other, we're going to work out, or it's the right fit, but creating from that space has allowed for beauty in other ways that I never imagined.

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It's a choice daily, yeah. And it's a choice daily also when there's, you know, it doesn't mean I don't have frustrations in life or people that upset me or things like that. Sure. And it's learning how to... also ask, what is this happening for me?

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And if this was happening for me, then I get to thank God that this is happening for me if it's designed that way, as opposed to why is this happening for me, or why is this happening to me, but this is happening for me, let me trust and keep an open heart in terms of what's gonna come to me because of this happening, because of this experience.

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And what blessings are to come my way because of this? Now, whether that's factual or true or not, I think having that mindset and believing something good will come from it gives me more peace.

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Of course. Yeah, yeah. You chose love. You sustained love. Yeah, I didn't block my heart again. You know, I didn't say, screw this or screw women or whatever it is from previous relationships. I was willing to heal that and keep healing and then create from that space.

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I just remember in our first meeting, I was kind of like, my ego was getting in the way because I was kind of like, oh, shoot. I didn't think I would meet her right now. I was like, I just want my ego to have fun for a while, you know? But I was like, that's not what God wants me to experience.

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You know, God wants me to live in the highest level of service and to experience the highest level of love possible. And if I lead with an ego mindset of like, oh, let me just be single and have fun, I knew it would limit me from my ability to serve and feel spiritual love. I would feel material loves or lust or emotions, but I don't think it would feel...

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I've got a quote I want to share from you first before we dive in. This quote you said is, "'What if the condition we pathologize and diagnose as depression is sometimes actually spiritual hunger?' a normal and genetically derived part of human development that is unhealthy to muffle or deny.

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Pure, pure like abundance, pure consciousness, love. And so I've never felt that in relationship with another. She creates the space. So she created a space in the first time of us meeting where I was like, oh, this is a spiritual connection. I can't mess this up. I kind of had that thought right away. I go, shoot, there's something spiritual here. And so I made a conscious decision to,

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To make the dating phase before we, you know, we dated for many months until we became committed, right? I made a conscious decision to make it a spiritual phase. Not that it's not spiritual anymore, but it was like— Celibate? Yes.

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And that was the greatest decision I think I've ever made because it didn't— fogged my mind or my body from what was possible. It didn't confuse me chemically. And therefore, we could keep it spiritual. And that's been a beautiful, and I recommend that for everyone.

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Yeah, it was an extreme discipline. And every man that I was telling after it happened, they were like, this is not even possible. How did you do this? They're like, it's not in the realm of their reality. And I just knew that doing it the other way for the previous 20 years in multiple long-term relationships didn't work. So I was like, I need to try everything differently.

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And maybe it doesn't work, or maybe it's not the right fit or whatever, but I need to lean into the spiritual synchronicities that I'm feeling in this moment. And I need to continue to lean into the healing journey of myself and create peace and wholeness within me you know, irrelevant of her.

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You know, whether this works out or it doesn't, I need to keep developing the wholeness feeling, the healing journey. And then I can see, based on our values, our shared vision, and our alignment, and our lifestyle alignment, if it makes sense now, you know, it materially makes sense to create a relationship. And so kind of aligning the spiritual feeling, the energy with, okay, let's talk about

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Do we have the same values? If we're completely out of alignment, then all right, maybe we're just friends. I wanna make sure we have a harmonious relationship, entering a relationship harmoniously with our values, our vision, and our lifestyle. And I want it to be constant friction. So then it was having those conversations, and I wasn't confused chemically

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So I was able to speak the truth fully and see if she could accept it or not. And same for her. I think that was a beautiful practice.

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Yeah. I think in the first day I felt like something is different. I wasn't like, oh, this is my person forever. I also wanted to just... not jump so quickly into something. I was like, let's just take time. It doesn't have to be like figured out right away. It doesn't have to be like, I have this feeling and we're getting married tomorrow.

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Now, Dr. Lisa, you have a bachelor's degree from Yale, a doctorate from UPenn, and you're a professor of psychology and education at Columbia University. You're also the first scientist to publish a peer-reviewed article on spirituality and mental health in the first two decades of human life. I'm so grateful you're here. And I think there is a massive...

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I also wanted to give myself space and time to not rush something and really feel the experience of time a little bit. So I think in the first day I felt something was different about our spiritual connection.

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Peace. I just felt like peace. Peace in your heart?

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Yeah, peace in my heart, full acceptance. I didn't feel fear. And I think it was, I wasn't afraid if it worked out or it didn't work out. It was just like, I felt free to be myself fully, no matter what her reaction to me was. I was like, I'll be fine when this works out or it doesn't work out. I'll be okay.

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And I think before I had a more of an anxious, like I want it to work out because there's chemicals, there's like a connection. So let's make it work. So I would abandon self or my connection to God in order to please someone, try to make them happy, as opposed to just let them go or say, okay, this doesn't, we're not alignment and that's okay.

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Yeah, yeah. There's a relationship, a spiritual relationship that we each have individually with God and then together. Yeah. And I don't think, I don't know. You tell me, like, the science of relationships and what you've studied for the past, I guess, how many, three decades now as a clinical psychologist and professor of this and a researcher.

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Do you see people having a healthy, loving, peaceful relationship with a lack of spiritual connection, with a lack of God? Is that possible to have a long-term healthy relationship as a psychologist? Have you seen that?

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What do the MRIs say from a brain that is connected to God or has a spiritual practice versus a brain That doesn't have a spiritual practice.

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And what are the brains that are spiritually connected versus a lack of spiritual connection?

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dis-ease within society where depression and mental health is at an all-time high in terms of suffering, sadness, and in a weakened energetic state for a lot of people. I think specifically a big proportion of our youths. And you talk about a lot of the differences between the awakened brain versus more of a depressed brain. You've been studying this for a long time.

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And what happens when the bonding network engages in the brain? What happens to the body?

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So everyone has that in us, but we need to be practicing and believing it in order to experience it. Yes. What happens if we don't practice and believe that we are loved and held, we are guided, and we are all one? We are never alone. What happens to us?

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And as a clinical psychologist doing this research for a long time and doing all the MRI studies and working with individuals who have experienced this, is there any other way to get out of pain and suffering than seeking a spiritual practice.

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You've got science, research, and spiritual practices blended together, which I think is so powerful. And I wanted to ask you first, What is the difference between an awakened brain and a depressed brain?

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But you're a psychologist. Aren't there medicines that people can take that are going to fix them or solve them? Aren't there drugs that people should be doing? And isn't this clinically proven that if you're depressed and you have mental health diseases that the medicine will set you free? Isn't that why we have medication?

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Wow. What's the gift that we're all given that most of us never use?

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But why do so many of us reject God or a relationship with a higher power?

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What we consume, what we're putting in our physical space, the people in our environment, the conversations that we're hearing and listening to and having, all that stuff, right?

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And how can someone who feels the weight of the world, anxiety, depression, ADHD, any of these symptoms, how can they start to transform those symptoms or those feelings or that emotional weight into peace and awakened brain?

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To not be offensive or feeling exclusive if they don't have the similar belief. Is that right?

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Okay. If they have a different belief, we don't want to force something on them or talk about it if they feel uncomfortable or—

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Something you said in one of your books called The Spiritual Child, I believe this one is. It talks about that you talk about the next big idea in psychology, which is the science and the power of spirituality.

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And you're explaining a clear scientific link between spirituality and health and shows that children who have a positive active relationship to spirituality are 40% less likely to use and abuse substances, are 60% less likely to be depressed as teenagers, are 80% less likely to have dangerous or unprotected sex,

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and have significantly more positive markers for thriving, including an increased sense of meaning and purpose and high levels of academic success. Why do kids lack spiritual connection in a spiritual relationship today? Why is it parents aren't willing to encourage their kids? Do the parents not have the spiritual relationship? Why do you think that is in kids today?

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Kids are like a portal. They're already a spiritual portal. Yes. It's your job not to throw on material animal magnetism types of thinking or thoughts or energy to diminish their spiritual power.

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When a child asks a question like, does God love bad people? Does God love evil people? Whatever, any question. And a parent says, man, I think I know the answer, but I really don't know the answer. What should a parent do in that moment when a child asks a difficult spiritual question that the parent doesn't know the answer to?

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He knew the original story, the story before the story.

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Yeah. It sounds like you were practicing the first eight years, step one, which is... You know, show him that he is loved and held by you and also by God, right? You're loved and held by us. And the world is loving you and holding you high. It sounds like. And the river. And the river, right? It sounds like step two, you know, understanding we're all guided.

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It sounds like he was able to remember that he was loved and held and be guided into like having the answers within him for when his friend was telling him, no, that's not true. This is you were adopted or whatever it is he was saying. And it sounds like he had the inner strength to feel guided in that moment.

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And I'm curious, what have you learned as a psychologist about the science and spirituality of synchronicities, of knowing that we are guided and how to really have our antenna up and awareness up so that we can receive signals, signs, and the synchronicities of life to know where to move our energy toward to create more opportunities, abundance with our purpose.

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Will you tell the story? Well, I mean, I've probably told it out here a few times already, but I mean... There was just too many synchronicities that were just like, oh, this is, it was weird. It was weird synchronicities. I was like, okay, this is, and let me keep exploring. And these synchronicities were so weird that I was like, I felt like I was on the right path.

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I was like, let's keep hanging out another few days. Let's keep hanging out. You know, I didn't want to not hang out there, but I was like, I need to keep exploring these conversations with you to see what unfolds. But the first day, you know, within the first five minutes where I knew something was different, I went to pick her up. I was visiting a buddy of mine in Mexico and near Tulum.

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And she was actually in Tulum at that time. And we had never met, but we connected online. And I just happened to respond to something that she posted online, right? She was posting something in Nature, actually. And I replied to that and I said, it looks beautiful there. That was it. I wasn't like hitting on her or anything. I just replied to what she was posting about.

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So Nature was the first thing that I replied to within her connecting online. And then she replied, hello, my friend. How are you? Are you ever in my country? And I don't think she knew I was in Mexico, but I was in Mexico at that time, and I was assuming she met Mexico. So I said, yeah, I'm actually here with a friend right now in Playa del Carmen, and it's like an hour from Tulum.

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She goes, oh, I'm in Tulum. Let's hang out if you have time. So we ended up just getting together. When I picked her up, I had my buddy's Jeep and I had my phone. I picked her up for dinner. I had my phone in the middle of the Jeep, you know, in the middle of the seats in the front. And it was dark out because I was picking her up for dinner.

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And so my phone screen kind of turned on as I set it down. Like the screen turned on and you could see my screensaver. And it was a photo of a boy, a little boy. And I could see that she looked at the phone because the screen popped up. You see this image of a little boy. And so I kind of looked at her and go, oh, don't worry. I don't have a son or anything. You know, it's our first time meeting.

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So I was like, oh, don't worry. I don't have a kid or anything. And she goes, I know what that is. She goes, that's you and you're healing your inner child. And I was like, I get chills just thinking about it. I was like, yeah. And she took her phone. She goes, here's a photo of me. I've been doing the same journey.

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when she was five. I get chills thinking about it. I'm just like, oh, something's different right away. She understood the journey of healing that I was already on. And that had been up there for, I don't know, eight months on my phone, right? So I've had it for a while. And she was like, yeah, this is something I was doing in the last year.

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And I'd been healing and transforming and probably getting out of a depressed state that was like reawakening to seeing the world differently. And so even just in that moment, like that unlocked the conversation. The whole conversation was spiritual from the first moment. There was no surface. I can't do surface anyways with anyone.

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You know, we talk right away and I'm like, tell me about this, you know. And so the whole conversation was spiritual. And the whole first few months was that, like every time. Some people might say, oh, that's too deep when you're like going on a date or you shouldn't be like going so deep so quickly or having spiritual conversations. But I think why wait to have those conversations?

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And they can be fun and lighthearted. They don't have to be deep and heavy. It can be like, wow, fascinating. You can get to learn about someone's soul sooner rather than six months down the line have those conversations. So for me, that was a synchronicity that said, oh, hang out again. And every time we hung out, there was just things like that that just kept happening.

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That was like, oh, there's some force that's more powerful pulling us to keep exploring. And I think I allowed myself to be open and stay in it without rushing to this is the person I'm meant to be with forever because of one synchronicity. And I think I wanted to continue to not rush a lot of things, but just dive deeper spiritually, which created safety.

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It created a sense of safety and feeling at home within me and her feeling at home within her. So it made us feel more at home together. That was a powerful, you know, again, I would. I wish I would have learned this 20 years ago, but it happened at the right time. And I needed the painful moments, I think, to awaken to where I'm at today.

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Yeah, and understand if we believe that we are guided, that's what I was like doing. I go, okay, God, just show me the way. Let me just explore this a little more. Let's go hang out another day. Let's have more conversation. Let's just be guided into the possibility. Whether it works out or not, I'm just going to lean into this. without rushing to conclusions.

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So what did you then learn from the research of the science of synchronicities and spirituality together?

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How does someone open their mind or their soul to synchronicities more frequently?

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Yeah. I don't believe you. Show me another sign.

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Yeah, show me another sign. And if you show me another sign, then it's undoubtedly, okay, I got to explore this.

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What happens for you? What are you doing on a consistent basis, mentally, emotionally, physically, and spiritually, to where you just— have a heightened sense of openness where synchronicities are just, every day it just seems like, of course, this is a synchronicity that's just guiding me here, introducing me to this person, unlocking this door.

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Of course, what are you creating energetically to be the highest frequency of synchronicities?

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That's a beautiful way to start the day. Is there a practice you have at the end of the day to open up to more synchronicities?

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But what if someone's been hurt by the idea of God or someone that represents God or religion?

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Someone's been... Abused, abandoned, any type of way from a religious figure, either from maybe from their parent who says they're religious or spiritual, but then yells, screams, abuses in other ways. How do we get beyond the hurt and pain that someone in our life who has a spiritual connection to God hurts us? Yes.

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Or hurts someone we know and shatters our faith in God, religion, the universe, spirituality.

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Who had been abused sexually and then done the same thing.

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That's a beautiful exercise. Very beautiful. I'm just going to write down the position of everyone. So I had in my table, and I'd love for people if they did this exercise to comment below who is sitting at their table on YouTube or wherever you're watching this to comment below in the comments because I think it's actually a very powerful exercise of what will be revealed to you.

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For me on the left, so I was imagining kind of a circle, a table. I was sitting here. For me on the left was Jesus, my father, who is no longer in this world. My grandfather has passed, my mom, who is here, and then Martha, my fiancee. So it was kind of a half circle, and they were all looking at me. And I asked them, what you said, what do I need to do? Was it about love from each of them?

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Do they love me? Was that the question? Yeah. And I just felt like a big hug. I felt like this big kind of embrace from all of them, like a resounding yes. And then when my higher self spoke to me, it was just like 100% you are loved and I love you, right? It was feeling that from everyone on the table and then my higher self.

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And then when I asked God or what God and all of them were kind of like speaking to me, what I needed to hear was forgive greater, love deeper and serve more. And so it was like, just keep forgiving yourself.

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And it was like more reflecting, like forgive yourself from everything from the past where you feel ashamed, guilty, insecure, forgive yourself and others, love yourself deeper and love others deeper. And continue to be of service more. Like just serve, serve, serve. And going back to your question, like how may I love more deeply?

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I think that's a beautiful thing that we should be asking ourselves. How may I love more deeply? Which is what you mentioned a little bit ago. And I think it's really hard to love deeply if we don't forgive ourselves for decisions we've made from the past or if we've lost trust within ourselves because we made poor decisions where we got hurt. We hurt others. They hurt us.

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We allowed things to happen, whatever it might be, if we've lost that trust of love and that the world is good. We haven't forgiven ourselves yet. And I don't think I forgave myself for a long time until a few years ago. And I had to really learn how to accept all the parts of me that I thought were kind of bad or nasty or just that I didn't do at my highest level of consciousness.

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And learning to forgive and accept so that I had the capacity to love myself. Because I don't think I fully loved myself for 35 plus years. And I think when I have learned to love myself, I can authentically serve greater. I can serve from a better place.

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Now, I still get frustrated in the human world and things still bug me, but I think I'm better at choosing back to how can I love and serve greater as opposed to how can I hold on to frustration? Because I know that anger or frustration, although maybe it's good to release it, isn't good to stay in it. for too long and to give back to love and service. So yeah, it's a beautiful exercise.

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That's interesting because— I talk about the importance of having mentors and kind of leaders in your life that can lead you financially and business and your health and your relationships, just people who have wisdom, you know, who have already been there and done that. And I think it's powerful to have a spiritual counsel as well, not just a physical counsel of mentors, but spiritual mentors.

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And did you know that if you're feeling not blessed, if you're feeling depressed or anxious or like something's off, that depression is your body and your mind screaming for a spiritual awakening. And that's something that we talk about today with Dr. Lisa Miller, who is a clinical psychologist who does something different. She likes to blend spirituality with science and apply both

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And really tapping into that inner power, that inner wisdom, which may sound a little weird to do this exercise, but you feel something different. You feel more oneness, which is the third step that you talk about in the three circuits of an awakened brain. And, you know, whether it's

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real or not if you believe it's real it feels real you know it feels like it is for all i know this could all be a simulation i don't know if we're actually here in earth or if it's dream but if we believe it to be true we create the blame that is awakened and the science proves based on the mri scans like here's what's possible with an awakened blame

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Here's what's possible with an awakened heart. And when you synchronize them together, man, life is abundant and powerful. And it's just a better experience. Do you want to have a beautiful experience or a suffering experience?

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How does someone then figure out, if they're just like, I don't know my direction in life, I don't know what my purpose is, and I want to figure out my purpose, what does the science and spirituality tell us on how people can discover and live their purpose?

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How has your spiritual life evolved from your youth to where you are now, specifically after studying the science of spirituality?

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What's been the most challenging part of your path?

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What was the biggest lesson for you during those five years of trying to have kids but not being able to create it at that moment?

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So you were 19-ish when you had your first kind of depressed season, right?

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Yeah, and if you can imprint a spiritual DNA into someone through your nurture, your guidance, your love— That's almost more important than a physical DNA with a lack of that spiritual guidance.

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If you had you at 30 or from 30 to 35 when you were in this depressed season of life and allowing your ego to trap you in this prison of depression and choosing that, what— would you tell your younger self? Maybe you wouldn't have listened, but what would you tell your younger self on how to set you free from that prison of ego?

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Were you a clinical psychologist at this point?

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So as a psychologist, scientist, researcher— Were you not able to see the practices that were also able to support you at that time? Or were you just too much in your own way?

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It would just be, here, medicate yourself, right?

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The more you talked about it, you still had it.

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So what do we do when there's not a solution yet in the material world to our physical problems or pain?

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Gosh, that is a synchronicity. That's crazy.

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You said one thing. I felt it. You felt it. And then you ended.

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That is insane. I mean, insane in a great way, but that's a powerful lesson. What an amazing timing of it.

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Oh, my gosh. Did you guys not have a spiritual practice then?

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Is he lying to me? You know, why would this happen to me? All these things.

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Yeah. So what would you say as a clinical psychologist is the science of manifestation then? What's the process of manifesting your spiritual desires?

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What was blocking you then from manifesting a child, manifesting what you truly wanted, what you desired? What was blocking you from manifesting for five years?

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If you think you would have had the child at 30 at the beginning— On day one, first trip to the Caribbean, right? Versus five years later, what would have happened, do you think?

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We have this goal. We have this vision. I want to go through the door and open it and receive the goal in mind.

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So you started to feel anxious, scared, nervous. Terrified. Yeah.

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And when you feel terrified, anxious, depressed, that you're not getting the thing you want to manifest, what happens?

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So it's not only— Is it going to come quicker if you're feeling terrified and depressed and anxious about it not coming?

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I mean, is the thing we want going to come quicker?

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The interesting thing is now it seems like there are some women in society that their life is over if they have a child. Well, that's their journey. Their identity, their freedom, their ability to do what they want when they want is over if they have a child. That's kind of like I see that sometimes now in some women in society.

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It's like how a child is born is magical. unfathomable, the magic that is created from conception to building these cells into a being that comes out of a woman. It's unbelievable when you think about it.

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When was the moment that you unlocked the ability to stop forcing what you wanted and get out of your own way to create the space for manifestation to happen?

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What's wrong with me? What's wrong with you? What's wrong with God?

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Yeah, what's wrong with the doctor? We need a better doctor.

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So sticky fingers. You're in your analytical brain, not in your heart.

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Yeah. You thought you were in your heart. I want to give love. I want to have a child. I want to start a family. But it was more like a controlling love, I guess.

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That's incredible. So being open and listening to synchronicities and then acting on it. Yes. Stop being like resisting them, you know.

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It's what you need. Yeah. Man, this is powerful. I've got a couple of final questions for you, Lisa, but thanks for sharing this. And I want to acknowledge you for being a gift and being a beautiful, wise inspiration for all of us and what's possible. And I do think there has been a spiritual disconnection, I think, in society.

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I think there are forces that try to pull us away from a connection to God. The materialism of the world that tries to have us judge, compare, tear down others and build us up over others. The competitiveness that's not a healthy competition but an angry competition.

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And so I want to acknowledge you for bringing science and research and practical advice along with spiritual wisdom together so that we can – reconnect to that part of our soul and our hearts that yearns and has thirst and hunger for a spiritual connection, even if we doubt it, even if we don't believe in it, even if we struggle to see the point of it all.

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I want to acknowledge you for being that voice and for constantly showing up for yourself, for your children, and for all of us. I'm really grateful for your time.

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Absolutely. I appreciate it. Thank you. Two final questions, Lisa. But before I ask them, I want to send people to your site. Lisa Miller PhD, I believe, is the main place where all your content and your books and all the things where people can get them.

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Dr. Lisa Miller. If you guys want to follow Lisa over on Instagram, go to both of those places. We'll have them linked up. And I'd love for people who are watching or listening to leave a comment over on YouTube or over on Instagram and share your biggest takeaway from this conversation.

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And I highly encourage people to do the, gosh, what's it called? Hosting the council exercise. Powerful. So do that and share who is at your table and what was said to you from that exercise in the YouTube comments below. I think that's a really powerful exercise. The Road to Life exercise as well. Feel free to do that one, but definitely do the hosting council exercise.

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This question is a question I ask everyone towards the end of the show. It's called the three truths. Imagine a hypothetical scenario. You get to live as long as you want in this earth, but it's your last day. Far in the future. You get to create and experience what your heart desires physically and spiritually.

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But for whatever reason, all of the content you've created, your books, this conversation, and anything you create until then goes with you to the next place when you pass. So the people on earth don't have access to this conversation, your books, or any of your work, hypothetically. But on the last day, you get to leave behind three lessons, three things that you believe to be true.

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And that's all we would have of your content. What would those three truths be for you?

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Final question, Dr. Lisa Miller, what's your definition of greatness?

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There you go. Thanks so much for being here. I appreciate it. Loved it. Thank you so much for listening to this episode. If you enjoyed this and if you found value, make sure to share this with one friend. Just copy and paste the link and text a friend where you feel would be truly inspired by this episode as well.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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If someone is feeling completely depressed or the symptoms of depression or just an emotional weight, they can't seem to get off their back. And they are thinking to themselves, you know, the relationship I'm in is just not working or I'm getting into relationships and getting out of them and they just don't seem to be working. Right. The career I'm in is just like draining my energy.

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disciplines into individuals lives. And with her work, she has seen incredible transformations. In this episode, we talked about the difference between a depressed brain and an awakened brain and how to transform your mind and brain from static depression into awakened abundance. It's extremely powerful process that she walks me through a visualization and meditation process

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I'm just not, I don't feel healthy. I don't feel good. I have a lot of negative thinking consistently and it's hard to get these thoughts out of my mind. How does someone start to find meaning and purpose when they have no clue where to start? Yeah.

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Mm-hmm. What was your awakening? What did it look like? How long did it take for you to do the therapy, do the exercises, go inward to reflect during this first bridge in your life?

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Really? Yes. Needing to go through the depression and experiencing it. Yes. Why do you need depression to have a spiritual awakening?

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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Well, I had to break the model, too, because I found one that doesn't scream.

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It's exhausting to play a character that does not support and serve your most authentic self. And when we are not living in our true authentic self, we are out of alignment with our higher self. And when we are out of alignment, it is exhausting.

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That's the stereotype because it's, you know, you see it a lot.

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Yeah. And a lot of the, you know, a lot of parents, a lot of men, fathers aren't there for the women. They aren't there for the girls. And then they grow up very wounded and then they're masculine.

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Very beautiful. Very. Yes. Yes. And seductive, but also kind of very. Well, why seductive? Yeah. Because they want to attract.

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He had, like, seven different women or kids.

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She didn't use her voice. no she did maybe there's a screaming or like whatever do this she hispanic women show love through food yeah they do some do yeah some do yeah so anyways yeah yeah so i got into uh you know i was into relationships based on chemical attraction not spiritual connection yeah and out of a wound of like wanted to be loved by this person or like whatever and that

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seemed to work out for three to six or nine months but then it was like things would start unraveling and then i would get out of the relationship eventually and then kind of just repeat the pattern yeah and it was sad it sucked man it was horrible it was not good and i would always look for love in a different person or like okay maybe they're actually going to respect

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And we feel like we're getting taken advantage of and people don't understand us and no one's listening to us and we're underappreciated and all these different things. But really, we are the ones to set ourselves free. We are the ones that are holding ourselves back because we lack courage or confidence or the skill set or whatever it might be. We're afraid to face the pain, the wounds and heal.

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you know, or not scream at me or they're gonna accept who I am as a person or my career or my, you know, they're gonna accept me finally. But no one ever did. And I think I didn't accept who I was. And so it wasn't until I learned to accept me and choose me. That's right.

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That then I was able to see, you know, Martha, my fiance now, in a way where she always says to me that she's always like, I wish we'd have met each other 10 years ago, 15 years ago. So we both moved to LA around the same time, but we never met each other. I'm like, I wouldn't have been attracted to you. Like, you weren't wounded enough for me.

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You know, I was like, I wouldn't have been attracted to you. You were like, you were too, not too good for me, but you were, it's not the energy I was attracted to from a wound. That's right. And so I would have like seen you and I'm sure I would have been sexually attracted in some ways, but I wouldn't have been like, I desire you. Right. I want you. Right. Because you'd have been too loving.

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I don't know, you'd have been too loving. You know what I mean? It's like, and too accepting.

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And I wouldn't have been ready for that.

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Let's start there. Yeah, you're a short king, huh?

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And can you still step into your masculine? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And not cower.

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Why? But most men are usually with younger women, right?

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Of course he's going to go and... But the story.

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And I lived in that space for so many years, my friend. I lived there and I was still a functioning, you know. I could still accomplish my goals. I could still get results. I could still make money and accomplish things in business and sports. But I still didn't feel fully me because I was living out of my authentic higher self. And...

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Wow, that's interesting. It's interesting because when I think about Martha, there's a lot of, not a lot of things, but there's a few things that I never thought I would be in a relationship with a woman who has some experiences like her. One is, I never thought I'd be with an actress who does like kissing scenes with guys, right?

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How was it? That would be hard. Well, here's the thing. There's some things I'll tell you more off camera that are more, there's some stuff I can't share right now.

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I remember watching some of her older movies after we started dating for a while. I was like, oh shoot, I should probably watch some of these. I didn't know if I wanted to watch them or she's like kissing guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I noticed me just clearing my throat as I'm speaking, right? It's like, okay, you got to speak your truth. This is good. And I remember seeing it.

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I'm going to be like, okay, I know she's going to kiss someone in this movie. Let me watch this and see how I feel my energy. And I was watching it and it wasn't bad. I wasn't like, cause it was also like before me and I was like, okay. And it wasn't like a sex scene. It was just a kissing scene or whatever. So I was like, that's interesting.

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But I also have to, if I'm going to choose to be with someone, I have to accept the life they've lived in the past. I can't make them wrong for that. That's the wounded self. That's right. I can't believe you dated this person. I can't believe you kissed. You can't make someone wrong from their past because she can make me wrong for a lot of my past. That's right. And I didn't want that.

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That's right. So I'm like, if I want to be with someone, I have to accept all their past. I mean, we don't have to like it. I want to say, yay, that's awesome. But I don't, I have to accept it. That's right. So I chose to accept it. And then I watched a few more and I was like, okay, maybe I just don't need to watch these.

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You know, it's like, okay, now that we're like getting deeper in a relationship, I had to make a choice before we got committed, right? So we were just dating and then we got in a committed exclusive relationship. And it was that literally that day I said, listen,

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If this is the path that you really wanna do, if you wanna continue acting and kissing, right, in the future, in movies, and those are movies that you wanna choose because you feel aligned to them energetically, and there's a kissing scene, cool. I'm gonna accept it because this is who you've been, and I can't ask you to change who you are

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And so I told her I'm gonna choose to accept you for what your mission is in your life. And you're an actor, you've been acting and producing for 20 plus years, you've done 40 movies, she's like the queen of Mexico, like all these different things. I would just ask that if this happens in the future, we talk about it and we just make sure we're in alignment. That's it.

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That I'm in the conversation. And then I get to share with you if I have any concerns. And she was like 100%. So I feel really good about it from that space.

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100% of the past. I didn't stop judging the past.

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Yeah. And so there was, that was one thing. It was like, okay, I never thought I would date an actress being in LA. You grew up in kind of in this area. You lived in this area for a while. Maybe the thought of like, oh, a celebrity actress would be kind of fun or cool, right? But I never heard good stories.

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I struggled so much in intimate relationships for decades, decades of suffering because I would shrink my authentic self to please another. And this is not to blame or point fingers at anyone except for myself and to take full responsibility because I lacked the courage out of wounds and out of a lack of healing and out of a lack of wholeness within me.

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And I'm sure there's great actresses out there, but just like the stereotypical, like they're all about themselves, they're egotistical, they're dramatic, whatever it might be. And I was like, I don't want that. But I ultimately attracted to that in other ways. Anyways. So I was like, I never thought I would date an actress and she's an actress. And so I, okay, let's try this out. Let's do this.

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I dove into it. Um, I never thought I would be with someone who'd been married before. She's been married and divorced. It was like a very quick, like nine month or it happened quickly that she, you know, kind of woke up right afterwards and it wasn't the right thing. I never thought I would be with someone like that. So I had to face that within me. Like, okay, she's already experienced this.

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I haven't. How do I feel about that? I had to navigate that.

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Yeah. And I didn't like it. I had some like issues with it early on kind of initially, but then I was like, okay, what is, what is it I truly want? What is my vision for a beautiful, healthy, conscious relationship? And maybe this is perfect for me. You know, it's like, maybe it's perfect for me.

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And also, I don't think I've ever been with a woman who has fully appreciated and loved me the way I've wanted to be loved and appreciated. And I think because of all of her past relationship experiences, she sees me and she's so grateful for what I contribute to the relationship. And so had she not experienced those things that I don't like, maybe, I wouldn't have what I want. Bingo.

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And so I learned to be like, okay, I've had to learn how to accept that. Right. And choose to be grateful for it. Right. And really appreciate it because it's creating something that I want in my life. The third thing, which I never thought I would do, it kind of broke my paradigm is being with someone older than me.

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She's not that much older, but it's like, I've always dated like three, five, seven years younger than her, right? And you know, I've had to break that paradigm. Okay, she's only like, I don't know, it's like six months or maybe it's a year or something like that, six or nine months.

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But I've had to break that paradigm and be like, God, she's got so much more wisdom, patience, love than any younger woman I've ever been with. And if I want peace, She's got it. She is peace. This is it. This is it. I'm not saying you can't find that with a younger woman, but I wasn't able to find that.

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She accepts my past. It's crazy. I'm like, I never could accept them before. I was always in shame.

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And I would always be like, I would tell her and be waiting for a reaction. It's just like, okay. It's okay. I was like, what? Every other person like freaked out on me.

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That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. And what I realized is like these few things that maybe I never thought I would be in a relationship if someone had these things or whatever. What I was really doing the work and healing on before meeting her was what I really want alignment with for my soulmate or my partner to be is someone who's in alignment on values, vision and lifestyle.

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Because those three things were always off in the previous relationships and it created so much friction. And I said, if I can be with someone where I accept myself fully, they accept themselves fully, and we accept each other's missions and life separate of us fully. That's right.

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And we can find alignment, not perfection, but alignment on our values for where we are and where we want to be, our vision for where we are and where we want to be, and our lifestyle. We have a similar lifestyle needs and desires. Right. And if we can learn to communicate and create agreements on what works and what doesn't work, so we minimize disease and discomfort. That's right.

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And whether you're struggling to find the one, healing from relationship wounds or seeking deeper connection with your current partner, this episode is going to offer game-changing insights about masculine and feminine energy. Speaking your authentic truths and how the relationship challenges we face are actually our greatest medicine for growth and healing.

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Because life is going to bring us challenges. That's right. But we don't need to be out of agreement and alignment. Adding on to it, right. We need the energy to be able to take on challenge. That's right. That's right. And if I can create a relationship with someone where we can build that together, we can create all the love and abundance that we want and we desire together. Amen.

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And I've just never felt this much peace and abundance internally. Mm-hmm.

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Not necessarily externally, although that's there, but just the feeling of gratitude and love and abundance for having all that.

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And a lot of it, I mean, maybe this is true in different cultures as well, but a lot of like Hispanic people live with their parents or their grandparents until they're much older.

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There's a price you pay for everything. There's a reward and there's a price. That's right. That's right. Yeah, there is beauty to it also. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, more in the Western tradition, it's like, okay, you're out at 18, and then you're separate from your parents, so your grandparents, and you never see them until they're in the hospital when they're about to die.

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There's an extreme the other way as well, hyper-independence. And I think there's a beauty to having an in-the-middle somewhere.

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You have this seven signs on how you found your soulmate or not. I don't know if you remember these seven signs. I'll read them out. Okay. You're from a social media post. These are the seven signs you have found your soulmate.

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One is deep connection and understanding. Two is effortless communication, which I want to dive in deeper on that. Three is emotional safety and trust.

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Four is alignment and values. Five is feeling at home together. Six is mutual growth and support. And seven is magnetic attraction. These are the seven signs that you've found your soulmate.

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Most people I feel like don't have any of those. And they stay in a relationship, they get in a relationship because they find some type of chemical attraction. Sexual attraction, or the sex is great, or we have this energy, it just feels electric. But they lack deep connection and understanding. Communication is actually chaotic, it's not effortless. They don't feel safe.

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And I know it doesn't feel good sometimes when we feel trapped or stuck in a relationship or we feel like we're repeating the same patterns over and over again in different relationships.

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They feel anxious, actually, which kind of creates that chemical explosion. They don't feel trust because they're checking their phone or the other person or they're asking them, where'd you go? They don't have that trust. They actually haven't talked about alignment on values. Like, what do you actually value? They might think they know, but they don't know. They don't feel at home.

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Maybe they do right after they have sex, but other than that, they don't feel safe emotionally at home. They're actually not encouraging each other to grow, and they haven't found out if this person's on a growth trajectory or not. Maybe they do have magnetic attraction, but it's not magnetic spiritual attraction.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you're having a beautiful day today. And if you're not, I want you to reflect on how you can add value to others.

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And I think that might be the caveat, magnetic spiritual attraction, to know that you've got your soulmate. Why do you think so many people struggle from creating that and asking about all these things within the partner?

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I think it's Mandela, actually, originally. Is that what it is? It's Mandela, originally.

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But why the partner you're seeking might be completely different from what you think you want and how breaking your paradigm may lead to a profound love is something that we're going to be talking about and diving into today.

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I know. It's so key, man. That was my thing, too.

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My three things is funny because four and a half years ago, I started healing within a previous relationship because I wanted to get out, but the therapist that I just started working with, she was like, you can get out and run away, but you're probably going to attract and recreate this again unless you heal within it. Which was our previous conversation.

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Start the journey of healing and diving all into the relationship. and creating the boundaries and speaking up and doing all the things you've been afraid to do because you get a reaction from the other person.

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And if you're looking to create a truly conscious relationship, it's going to take you having the courage to speak your authentic truth, even when it's the scariest and most uncomfortable thing you've ever had to do. And today we've got an episode with Danny Morrell. The first episode we did, people loved it. It went all over the place on the internet and people got a lot of value of it.

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And if you could sit in the fire and actually own your power and own your voice and if she runs away, if she screams and she says like, okay, it is what it is, but I'm gonna stand up for me. I'm gonna be there for the little boy in me that never got to speak up. That's right. When I started to do that, it was probably like a six month journey of doing this. And it was a fricking nightmare.

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We were living together. I would, you know, create a boundary, loving and consciously, calmly, and then screaming and go together in the silent treatment for days and the whole thing, right? And I had to learn how to sit with it. person that you're pouring into is giving you the silent treatment for days. Blaming you, making you wrong for not giving in to what they want, right?

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And I had to learn to say, okay, you do you. I'm going to be okay. I'm safe. I'm creating my own home, right?

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And I was like, okay, she's in her process. I'm going to let her be her thing. And it's not what I want. This isn't what I want. It's not my vision, right? But I'm going to keep processing this and keep stepping up for me in this process from a conscious, loving way. And... Everything I said to the therapist that I was working with was, she asked me, what do you want?

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And I said, I want three things. I knew right away, my body just spoke it. I want peace, clarity, and freedom. Because I didn't feel like I had any of it in the relationship. Peace, clarity, and freedom. And that was the whole thing I wanted. Right.

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Yeah, yeah. It was beautiful. But if I had a, if I would have run away and kind of gone into my old pattern, I'd be like, okay, I'm just going to be single for a while and then go have fun and then get in the next relationship where I feel something. Yeah. It would just kept repeating it. Yeah.

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And so I really was just like, okay, I need to sit with this and really do this work and heal this part of me that's been attracting from a wound. That's right. Yeah. Because I felt like I was doing better. I was healing over the last 10 years in other areas of my life, but I still in intimacy struggled. Sounds like something you did too. Yeah, yeah.

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And so in the dating phase with Martha, I was just like, I need to do everything different than what I did before and how I attracted and how I got into a relationship. And that was be a 100% authentically myself, say 100% the truth, not like hide a little bit of things where I think maybe they're gonna explode. I was just like, this is what I've done in my past. This is who I am.

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This is what I want in my future. Just like all of it. If she can't accept it, then I can't be with her. That's right. And I had to accept all of her stuff too. Everything from her past. And if I can't accept it, I shouldn't be with her. It's simple. I shouldn't be with you. That's right.

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It's a lot of people who say, well, I didn't do that.

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I know, but people don't like hearing that. It's the truth. I understand it's the truth, but people don't like hearing it. Yeah. People are going to be really frustrated because a lot of people who've been watching or listening or who've been cheated and they said, I did nothing wrong. I gave to this man. I gave to this woman everything. I gave her all my money. I gave her all my love, my support.

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So we're doing another episode and I'm excited for you to learn, to reflect, to continue to step into your most authentic power because you deserve to feel free inside of you. But you are the only one who has the key to unlock that freedom. So I'm excited for you today. If you enjoy this episode, make sure to share it with a friend.

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I raised the kids. I did everything and they cheated. Right. Screw them. It's their fault. I'm not to blame.

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They're not going to like hearing that. It's the truth. But they gave everything and they still cheated. They tried everything and they still cheated.

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Maybe, maybe, maybe. I'm going to be a devil's advocate here. What if, okay, sure, I provided a safe space for them to talk, but they still cheated. They still went with their temptations, their pleasures, their desires, and they didn't commit to the relationship. They let all the temptation and our relationship go out the window for outside pleasure.

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Text a friend and say, hey, let me know your thoughts and feedback on this. Make sure you subscribe over on Apple or Spotify, wherever you're listening to the show. You can click the follow button and leave us a review on your biggest takeaway from today's episode on the review section on Apple or Spotify. I'm so grateful for you. And let's dive into today's episode.

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Where do you think most people, the biggest problem is for most people today in getting into a relationship or being in an unhealthy relationship?

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And is a lack of speaking your authentic truth coming from a wounded self?

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Discipline equals freedom. I think it's more.

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What is the thing that blocked you the most then from having the love you wanted? And what is the thing that blocks most people from having the love they want in intimacy?

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Yeah. Me. What are women getting wrong in the Western world today with choosing a certain type of men?

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Oh, my gosh. I don't think women like hearing that, though.

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Why is it so hard for women to allow a man to love them, protect them, and provide for them?

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What is the mind to all women to be more in their protector provider mode And maybe telling men to be less in their protector-provider mode, what seems to look like in society more than ever before right now. Why is that happening?

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Someone loses. Someone loses. Half the country loses, half the world loses, whatever it is.

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Really? Yeah, man. You wanted to get married. You didn't want to just have a girlfriend or like hook up with girls or you were just- I wanted to find the one. Why?

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Why do we seem to have more men not stepping into their power?

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Can't you be, you know, inspired by your culture and your country?

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Yeah. And the biggest thing separating people from love is what?

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That's beautiful, ma'am. Thank you, ma'am. There's a lot more we could talk about here about relationships. I thought we just scratched the surface, but you've got a lot of great content in your own podcast about relationships as well. Yeah. And also on your Instagram, Danny Morrell, DannyMorrell.com.

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You've got an amazing three-day event that you do that helps people step into their power, own their voice, heal, and start the journey of healing that they can get at DannyMorrell.com is where they can find that information.

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Backslash Awaken. Or AwakenU.co is at the site for the... Yeah, or DannyMorrell.com backslash AwakenU. Okay, cool. How many times do you do that event? A year?

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Yeah. Wow, man, almost every month you're doing an event.

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Yeah, it's powerful. There's nothing. Yeah, I get it. I get it. No, I understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if people want to check out more from you, you've got a podcast. Is it the Higher Self podcast or is it a different one now?

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Oh, that's good. Okay. So if you want more of the relationship stuff, go to check out Finding the One podcast with you and your wife. Also, just DannyMorrell.com will have all this stuff linked up and we'll link it up all as well. I've got two final questions for you, Danny. Let's do it. Before I ask them, I want to acknowledge you, Danny, for your transformation.

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For your constant journey of transforming and healing and growing, which it's going to be a journey for both of us till we die. Sure. And for your courage to let go of an old self that no longer served you or humanity in the highest level. for the courage to let go of the big businesses and do more of the work you're doing and things like that.

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And to find ways to create healing with your previous wife, to bring that family and merge it in a certain way that has boundaries and healthy love as well with your current life.

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new child that you have so congratulations on being a model and example and breaking the mold of hispanic culture even though you're not hispanic culture but you come from that culture that has a stereotype and a mold that a man needs to be a certain way yeah

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And I appreciate you being a voice and being an example for men from that culture to say, oh, if I want peace and freedom, maybe it doesn't have to look this way that my great grandfather and grandfather and father all did. Maybe I can be the one in my family to change the legacy moving forward. That's right. So I acknowledge you for that as well. Yeah.

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This is a question I ask everyone towards the end called the three truths. Hypothetical question. Imagine you get to live as long as you want to live. Okay. But it's the last day for you. You accomplish all of your dreams. You see your kids grow up and they accomplish their dreams. But it's your last day on earth.

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And for whatever reason in this hypothetical scenario, all of your work has to go with you or we don't get to keep it on this earth. It's gone. This conversation gone. All the videos you created, books, workshops, it's all gone. But you get to leave behind three truths. And we would get to keep this. This is all Earth would have of your kind of teachings or memories or lessons.

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What would those three lessons or three truths be for you?

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Very good. Awesome. It's almost all in one. All three of them are one. You are one with everything. Final question. What's your definition of greatness?

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Danny, thanks for being here, man. Thank you. Appreciate you, brother.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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Maybe we're supposed to struggle. Maybe it's supposed to be hard.

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And also ask myself, where am I out of alignment in my life right now? Where am I in dis-ease right now? Where am I struggling or stressed or overwhelmed right now? And am I playing a character? Am I stepping into a role that is not my authentic self? Am I holding back my voice? Am I not courageously speaking up? Am I not creating boundaries? Am I afraid of what people think about me?

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this was not that long ago this was not that long ago and you've been already on a healing journey and you've been coaching people you've been helping people you've been transformed you've been healed already you thought you know i've been doing the work all of it man all of it yeah no this this was three years ago yeah something like that but you've already been teaching this work and yeah yeah yeah yeah that's what i'm saying like you'd already been it's a lot right yes yes

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And maybe in your mind you thought, like, I've got it figured out in some ways.

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Wow. How long did it take until you met her?

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And so I'm shifting and people pleasing in order to keep the peace in life. The more we people please to try to keep the peace, the more resentful we live inside, the more out of alignment we are with our true authentic self, and it causes resentment, overwhelm, burnout, and exhaustion. I have been there, and let me tell you, it is exhausting.

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This is the real deal. And if you're holding on to the old things that have been blocking you in previous relationships and you enter a new relationship from that space, what will happen?

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Yeah. Yeah. And it might feel good for a few months of like, oh, this is different. It will always feel good. They're different. They're not like this.

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Yeah, because your life changes forever when you're in a relationship. It transforms.

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Well, I mean, it changed in all the previous relationships. My life, I thought I was getting the relationship to create love, but I think it was more of like chemical reactions, right? It was just like, oh, this chemical bonding, right? And I didn't have the courage to use my voice to create boundaries or to say really what I wanted or what I didn't like.

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But I just like gave in to create peace because I didn't have peace in my life. So I would do whatever so that they would stop screaming. That was me. That was it. It was like, okay, if you're going to scream, you don't like something about me, I want peace.

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My friend, welcome back to another episode on the School of Greatness with a standout guest in 2024. In fact, his episode got over a million views on our YouTube and over half a million plays on Apple Podcasts in just the first couple months. And I brought him back. His name is David Guillem.

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Because a lot of people watching and listening right now are saying to themselves, of course I want more money, right? Of course I want to make more money. That might be only a percentage of their beliefs or their desires, but you're telling me that there's other beliefs that don't support that desire. Correct.

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You're like, I don't want I want peace. I want harmony. I want, you know, calm in my life. I want to feel healthy children. Yeah, exactly.

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Because some people have made a lot of money, but then they lose it quickly because their beliefs bring them back down. He also shares a profound mindset shift around deservingness and abundance transformed his financial reality when he started to learn this ability of deservingness. Because for 15 years he was making no money. He was living in service, in spiritual service.

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So what's the biggest belief then that holds people back from making more money? Let's go through the list.

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It was such a subconscious thing. She didn't want to make her sister feel bad that she was married and happy and she's older and she's not married. Correct. Interesting.

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And he started to shift this to create financial abundance. Now he's got a massive billion dollar brand that he is the co-founder of after nearly 15 years of having no money. And it's crazy how he was able to shift his mindset from just service to a spiritual platform to, okay, I want to convert this into financial abundance.

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Do you remember the moment where you went from scarcity to abundance around money for yourself? Do you remember being like, oh, I'm no longer, I don't know, sleeping on couches? Like for me, it was like I was sleeping on couches even when I made money. Yeah. And I was – I didn't want to pay for hotels. I was like taking the bus as opposed to a plane.

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I was sitting in the middle seats in the back still, the cheapest seat I could get. Even though I was making money, I was kind of – scared to spend it, to invest it in myself or my comforts or whatever it might be. And then I remember it started to switch where I was like, oh, okay, I have money in the bank.

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I can get like a nice business class ticket if I want to, even though it didn't make sense financially. I was like, why am I spending, $800 when I can spend $200 and get to the same place, right? Why? It didn't make sense in my kind of like late 20s, early 30s. Why am I spending $1,000 on this when I could buy a new iPhone for this and a hotel room doesn't make sense?

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I can just sleep on someone's couch. It was still kind of limiting me from investing or spending for my benefit and my comfort, right?

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And what makes this conversation particularly fascinating is David's unique perspective on how our relationship with money is deeply intertwined with our spiritual vessel and our belief system. And if you haven't heard yet, I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. create financial freedom and live a richer life. You can get it right now.

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So your gut changes. Your whole body chemistry changes. Isn't that interesting? So it's almost like you're taking on the belief system and the energy of a person when you kiss them. That is true too.

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And in this episode, we're diving deep on the topic of money, specifically manifesting the money you want in your life. And get ready. This is a masterclass. So I want you to have a pen and paper out and take notes. And please share this with a friend that you want to see become financially free in 2025 and beyond.

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The link is in my bio here on Apple or Spotify or in the description, or you can go to lewishouse.com slash easy. It'll take you right to Amazon to pre-order or get your copy. As this book is coming out very soon, I want you to get a copy because it's going to teach you how to understand your money history, your money personality style, and how this directly correlates to your money belief system.

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Who are successful, who have an abundance mindset. And so when was the moment for you then? Because it sounds like for years you were questioning her abundance mindset. You were like, we can't do this. Or why are we doing this? It's too much money. Or we can't move. We can't invest in this. So when was the moment you started to switch your belief system around money?

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Yeah, so he was trying to figure out how to master this.

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And if you're looking to create financial peace and financial abundance in 2025 and beyond, then I want you to pre-order a copy of this book, Make Money Easy. Again, the link is right here in the description on Apple or Spotify or wherever you're listening.

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and get this book because it's going to give you the frameworks, the teaching, and the process to create harmony with your money so you can have financial peace and abundance in the future. Make sure to get your copy right now. And I'm so excited about this episode. So without further ado, let's dive in with the one and only David Guillaume. Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness.

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Yeah. And then the new energy comes in. So what are the things you say to yourself on a daily basis then? Either the prayers or the mantras or the thoughts or the internal things that you say, the external things you say to keep you in an abundance mindset? When things go wrong. When you made an investment in something and it doesn't pay off. When you hired someone and they weren't the right fit.

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When whatever. Whatever might be going wrong or something that's a breakdown. And you're like, oh, I spent this money and I lost the money. What's the mantra to keep you on track of either the vibration or frequency of abundance instead of saying, oh, I made a mistake or what a dumb thing. Why did I do that? That was stupid. Pause.

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I'm excited for today's guest because we are talking about a topic that so many people want to know about. I'm here with David Guillaume, who is a spiritual teacher. And for many years, you made no money. And in the last 10 years, you transformed your mindset and your beliefs around how you can be of service in the world, but also manifest the money you want and believe you're deserving of having.

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And you've built a billion dollar brand with your co-founder, Mary Ruth. And today I wanna talk about how people can manifest money, how they can transform their beliefs into creating abundance in their life around money. That's what this is gonna be out. And the first thing I wanna ask you,

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What was the part of you that was...

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Oh, the wealthy guy. The wealthy guy. Do you remember this story? Yeah, yeah. I can't remember the ending. But yes, I remember telling this. Yes. So Joe's like. He lost like a billion dollars or something crazy.

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Because you have a very interesting story from having no money and dedicating your life to being of service spiritually to then also doing that while building a business. And so you kind of had a limiting belief yourself of like, I'm not supposed to make money or if I want to be a good person, I just have to serve and I have to donate my time and my money and I'm going to live poor, essentially.

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You can only cleanse what comes up to the surface. And so how do you cleanse it though? When you've had something for so long and some big breakdown happens, what's the process of cleansing the limiting belief so that you can step into certainty that you are wealthy even if you don't have wealth?

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Then something flipped, you got married, started having kids, and you realized, oh, I have to show up and be responsible in other areas of my life. And you transformed that kind of broke mindset into an abundance mindset. So what has been the exact formula spiritually that you have used to attract and manifest more money in your life?

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So don't wish for, yeah, it's not like take my whole business, take everything off my back right now. But it's more I wish that everything needs to happen is happening for me to get to the next level.

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If that's what's required of me to get to the next level, do whatever is necessary. Isn't the goal the next level? Wow.

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So what is holding people back from transforming then in order to get what they really want? Just knowing what we just said.

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But shouldn't you try to fix the problem? So how did you fix the problem then? Like what happened? Well, here's the thing. So wait, let me recap this first. Because once this happened, you have all your money, not all your money, but over a million dollars stolen from you.

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your whole body takes over and shut down in scarcity mode and anger and rage and frustration and betrayal and all these different things. You pause and your spiritual background Reminds me that this is an opportunity. Reminds you this is an opportunity. You start saying in your mind. I've wanted this since a time of creation. So you're reminding yourself internally.

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It's not working, so you're saying it out loud. Then you're walking around, you're moving your body, you're dancing, you're singing, you're shifting your energy. And saying the things that, thank you so much, creator. I'm grateful for you. Take more if you need more for me to transform. I appreciate this. I love this. I love you.

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And I believe that you're creating this for me to become better and get to the next level. Everything that I asked for 30 days ago. Correct. And then what happened next?

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If you care about your friends, your family, anyone, your spouse, whatever it might be, Copy and paste the link to this from either Apple Podcasts or Spotify or wherever you're listening. Text it to them right now and say, hey, let's work on this together because I want you to manifest more money and I want to see you thrive and succeed. Text them that link right now.

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This is now. This is two weeks ago.

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Something new. So why can't we do it again next year?

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There's still a little bit of a disagreement about where to go. Sure, sure. Wow. I want to recap this real quick because this is really powerful. We're talking about how to create abundance, financial prosperity, and manifest more wealth.

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And what I'm hearing you say, and what we've talked about in a few different episodes now, is that our whole purpose in life should be to create a clean vessel and continue to expand and update that vessel to receive more. And in let go of certain things, break through certain things, and generate new beliefs that support us to receiving more.

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If we don't believe we're deserving of receiving more, it's not going to happen. Or if it happens, we're going to melt down. We don't have enough wattage to take on the new energy that is coming to us. And this is where you see people with depression, drug abuse, challenges, and other addictions when they haven't cleansed themselves of their vessel.

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And when we want to get to the next level, or we're in a breakdown, or we feel stuck, or we feel blocked, there's a process that you've talked about to manifesting more and getting to the next level. Number one, pause. And I think that's beautiful. Pause, as opposed to like running around and doing more of the same that's keeping you stuck.

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Pause and say to God, the creator, the energy of the world, what a pleasure. I agree with this. I agree with this. I agree with this. I'm aligning with you. I'm aligning with you. And you may be screaming at the creator saying, why is this happening to me? Why is this? Why did this person die in my life? Why am I sick? Why am I broke? Why did I get fired?

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Instead of saying, why is this happening to me? Say, I agree with this. I agree. I don't understand it.

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People will understand and appreciate. Yes. But if you first appreciate and agree, then you'll understand. Interesting. So I agree with this. What a pleasure. Then understand that this test is from the creator. Correct. When you understand this is a test from the creator, it's designed for you. It's specifically designed for you.

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The second step is how do I go deeper into my soul to see what my soul correction is. Yes. Show me how to expand my vessel. Why is this in my movie? Step three. Step four, show me my limiting beliefs. What are my limiting beliefs? What are the things that I'm saying, thinking, acting that are keeping me in this situation?

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Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, the first talk.

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Wow, okay. The next step you say is to clear yourself of negativity. And then the step after that is to remind yourself that, well, we talked about I am wealth. I am abundance. I am unlimited power. I am all these things. And kind of reminding yourself these things. These are all qualities of the creator. The creator is wealth. The creator is abundance.

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Yes. And you said if you're still unable to get through the negative feeling is to create this mantra to help you break through the limiting belief. Yes. If you're feeling it in your body, you can say, walk around, run, sing, dance. What a pleasure. I love you, Creator. Thank you for bringing this in my life. Thank you for helping me expand my vessel. And I think that's really powerful.

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And you mentioned also the distinction to run into the pain and fear, not try to fix the problem right away.

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Run into the pain and fear. Feel the pain. And let go of the attachment to your small vessel so you can get to the bigger vessel. Right.

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This is powerful. And there's a big question I want to ask. There's two big questions I want to ask you. Because I think a lot of people watching and listening... are saying to themselves, gosh, I'm really burnt out. I work so hard and I'm not making more money. Like how come other people, it just seems effortless. It seems like they don't have to work.

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It just seems like they're relaxed about everything and just things come to them. It's so easy for them. And I'm over here grinding eight, 10, 12, 16 hour days. And I'm just like behind on my bills and I'm not able to get ahead. And I'm just... My question is, does hard work relate to making more money and abundance? And I want you to answer it in the next episode that we do.

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So we're going to get to that in the next episode about money. And I want you to walk through the step-by-step process from you going broke to becoming a millionaire and what the practical steps are. This episode, we talked about the energy, the beliefs around manifesting. And this next episode, I want to talk about does hard work...

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relate to making more money and the exact steps from going broke to millionaire. For those watching and listening, share below your biggest takeaway on this episode. What opened up for you? What helped you? What's the thing that you need to go run and start doing right now? And take action from this episode.

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I think it's extremely important to take notes during this process, to go re-watch and re-listen to this as many times as you need to so you can embody this belief and this understanding because The more you can do this and the more you can feel it, you'll be reminded when you feel breakdown and pain because you're going to feel it. People are going to feel it at different times in life.

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So share this with a friend, someone that you think could be inspired by this. And in the next interview around money, we're going to talk about the things that keep you broke and how to go from broke to millionaire, the step-by-step process. And so much more. David Guillem, I appreciate you. People can follow you at davidgeillem.com. You're on Instagram, you're on social media.

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They can learn more about Kabbalah as well at your website. There's courses people can go get from there. And we're exploring doing a lot more together. So stay tuned for that as well on how you can continue to unlock your mindset and your opportunities for abundance. Appreciate you, man. Thank you. Appreciate you. Thank you so much for watching this video. I hope you got a lot of value.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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What a lot of people do is they assume the future. They dream also about a lot of different things like, oh, I want to do this or I want to do this project. I want to try this thing. They have all these different passions and ideas and they don't do any of them. Correct.

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Ask them, hey, what's your biggest takeaway from this episode? What did you learn? What is the strategy around manifesting money that you saw differently than I saw? And make sure to follow this show. If you've been sent this episode, make sure to click the follow button on Apple Podcast or Spotify and leave us a review with your biggest takeaway on what you learned in this episode.

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In this episode, David talks about how your beliefs about receiving wealth directly impact your ability to manifest and maintain financial abundance.

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You're in judgment. You're in judgment mode. And so every question should be asking yourself, is this act, is this thought, is this relationship in service to my vessel bringing more light into the world? Beautiful.

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So what is the biggest thing that blocks people from expanding their capacity to attract and manifest more money?

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So if your beliefs around money are, you know, wealthy people are mean and negative and stingy, or you have to have some type of skill, or I had to be born in some, you know, home or environment or country in order to make money, whatever your beliefs are, they might be directly blocking you. your ability to manifest or maintain financial abundance.

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If you've ever struggled with money, if you've ever felt like money's been tight, or just hard to make, or you're just not sure how to invest your money, or it's just been a confusing mess ever since as long as you can remember, this episode is for you. We have the investing expert on how to create financial peace and abundance during any economic time on the show, Chris Camillo.

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Why does it seem so scary, though, for people to invest, especially when they hear stories like, early in your career, you invested a lot of money, and 70% of it you lost pretty quickly with a crash happening?

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Yeah, but most people would stop after that and say, oh, this is so painful. I just lost all of this money, which is time, all those hours that I... spent to make that money and put it in here, now it's gone.

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How do you overcome that, though? You spend five years saving all your money, you invest it, and then it's gone essentially overnight. How do you get over that mental and emotional loss and stick it out and kind of keep going, you know?

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I hope you enjoyed this episode with Chris Camillo. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have Chris Camillo in the house. Good to see you, man. Appreciate you being here. You just shared something right before we got on here where you said it's your mission to get every human in the world to be an investor.

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Like super wealthy. Right, right. And just keep it simple.

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I just saw this stat on CNBC that said just this week the Dow Jones experienced its 11th 1,000 point drop in the Dow's history and four of them happening in just the last month. And also I saw on Twitter this week that the Great Depression has been trending. And for that...

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Sorry to cut you off there. It's interesting, and I understand it because that's what I did early on. At first, I was trying to get a job because I was broke on my sister's couch. And I was like, I just need to make some money. I need to get a job.

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But I had no money, and I really didn't have any expenses living on my sister's couch for a year and a half also, that I was like, let me go try to figure out how to make money on my own. And I launched my own thing on the side, because I didn't have anything. I didn't have any responsibilities, no bills, no kids, no relationship, nothing.

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And I learned how to make money on my own without working in, I guess, a career or a job. And then I've just been writing that and figuring out how to make more money. But I don't think it is so time consuming. It's so challenging. There's so many ups and downs that and it's rare to make a lot of money in the first couple of years of running a business.

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There's so many costs that you don't think about that happen that it's just like it is hard. It's almost impossible.

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And it's interesting you say that because that's what a lot of people think about. Let me go launch a business or a side hustle or something else when all we could do is just let me put some of my money into investments and let it make money for me without having to work harder. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yes.

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But it's, it seems so scary of a thing to do for people that have never done it because it's like, I don't know where this is going. Can I get my money out? What if it goes down? Then I've lost my money. And then it, people retract, right? They're like, I don't want to do that. I'm just going to keep it safe. And so I understand both sides.

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Should people with all of the fear or the anxiety or the stress around the stock market, tariffs, the economy, another depression, whatever might be happening, should people be investing now or should they be waiting until later when it feels more safe?

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And you see other people living this rich life or posting like they have a rich life, whether they have it or not, seeming like they're happy with this lifestyle. You know, taking trips and ventures and flying private or whatever it is.

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It's like a game that in your mind, oh, how can I turn this $1 into $100? How many $1 can I find and put away into investments today? It's just, it's a mindset change. How long does it take in a risk asset to turn $1 into $100?

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It's more on spending versus investing. Exactly. It's more on how do I look good or how do I get the next thing that's going to make me feel happy and be socially accepted with my peers instead of how can I hopefully live below my means for a while, use that money to invest.

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And then once I start making more of my investments, the profits there, then I can buy certain things if I want to or just keep reinvesting it.

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Chris has an extraordinary ability to spot consumer trends before Wall Street does. He's turned 20,000 into 2 million in three years and later transformed 4.5 million into 35 million. During the pandemic, when everyone was freaking out and stressed out, he found opportunities to create financial freedom.

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Chris, I know a lot of your audience that you mentioned before we started is men, you know, that are kind of in your system, in your community, on YouTube and Twitter, who are listening to you. There's a lot of women that watch and listen to the School of Greatness. And if there's a man or a woman in their 20s and 30s, let's say, who hasn't gotten into investing yet, who hasn't taken it seriously,

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Um, what would be the strategy if someone had an extra a hundred to a thousand dollars a month and they said, I'm going to start going all in, in this strategy. And whether it's $100 a month, $1,000, eventually more if they have more, what should they start doing today to set themselves up for their future success?

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Why aren't women in general taking action on the information they see socially, digitally, and culturally? When they see a trend happening, why do you think there's a fear or hesitation behind not investing in that trend?

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What's the best trade you made in the last four years on TikTok comments that has paid dividends for you?

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Because you probably didn't have a lot of money then. So the things you were investing in, if you're losing it, you're like, what am I doing? I can't afford to lose this.

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When do you know when to sell? When to get in, when to sell, and what if people are like, it just seems like a lot of time to be watching the market every day, making sure I'm getting the maximum out of my trades.

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It sounds like legal insider trading by getting public information. That's exactly what it is. And saying, oh, this looks like it might happen in the next couple weeks or month. Let me get in now.

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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And in this episode, Chris reveals his social arbitrage investing strategy that focuses on observing cultural shifts and consumer behavior changes through social media. Chris's approach doesn't require financial expertise. It's about paying attention to the world around you and connecting observations to investment opportunities.

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If you were to simplify for someone in their 20s or 30s who's never invested before on how to invest and what to invest in, what would you share with them? As if you were teaching someone that had no understanding of what investing or the stock market or trading meant, and you could simplify that, what would that look like?

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And how many of those will fail or have failed?

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Probably like 75% maybe. Wow. So you do a lot of the research, the analytics. You've got a data company that analyzes all these things and the industries and helps predict certain things. And even with all that work, 75% of your investments are probably going to fail.

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Okay. And hope that in five to 10 years, it'll make money.

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He also dives in deep on why women are uniquely positioned to excel at observational investing, but often don't capitalize on their insights. And literally when we stopped recording and I walked back into the office from our brand new School of Greatness studios here in the Valley of Los Angeles, the women on my team said, I am signing up and I'm investing right now.

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Even the ones that succeed maybe aren't making a lot of money. It's just getting by. It's breaking even. It's like 5%. It's not making a ton where you're getting rich.

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And it's exhausting. It's exhausting. You learn a lot. And you're a smart guy and you're talented and you've got the skills and the resources and you know managing people and understanding the markets and what should work.

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Like this seems so easy to do and it makes so much sense to me now the way he's explaining it. So if you've ever thought about investing or wanting to make more money, but you felt like it's stressful, Chris makes it more effortless and he makes it easier to get started. So I think you're really going to love this.

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Yeah, and everyone looks great in the beginning of pitching an idea, and we've got this amazing idea, and it's revolutionary, and it's the newest this, and it's going to compete against all these other people, and here's our projections in the next three to seven years. It's only going to go up. It's like everything looks good.

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But it's really hard to make money over five, seven, 10 years in a business and to take on the adversities, the challenges, whether it's tariffs or whatever it is, like just people problems. It's hard to navigate every adversity every day that comes your way running a business and sustain it over years. Correct. It's really challenging.

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And if you're enjoying this episode, make sure to share it with a couple of friends who maybe are trying to break free financially or get to the next level. Make sure to follow the show if this is your first time. Say hi to me on social media at Lewis Howes and leave us a review of what you enjoyed most about this episode over on Apple or Spotify. Again, I'm so excited about this.

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Today on the School of Greatness, we are here to be of service to you to help you create true wealth in your life. And if you feel like you've been blocked emotionally or spiritually or mentally around creating more financial opportunities in your life, True financial wealth, not only externally, but internally. This is the episode for you.

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That would be a miracle to get to San Diego in two hours. In two hours, okay. So let's give it three.

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We're going to be talking about a few of these different concepts that most of us have maybe never heard about. and really trying to shift the inner perspective to create more external financial success in your life. He's also going to talk about the counterintuitive reason that receiving too much wealth too quickly without proper preparation can create chaos in your life.

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So this is a spiritual quadrant. Four keys.

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And so when someone is in doubt or is not certain about something, then they're blocking their abundance. They're blocking their ability to be creative or meet the right people at the right time or take action or move into awareness or whatever they need to do in order to create the money opportunities for themselves.

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Yeah, but broke people say, hey, someone give me a million dollars right now, I'll enjoy it. I'm broke. That's not enjoyable. You know, I'm suffering. I'm in debt, you know. Yeah. If someone gave you, I've won the lottery, I'd enjoy it.

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And there's a moment in the book of my new book called Make Money Easy that is out in one week from today. Make Money Easy says, create financial freedom and live a richer life.

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Yeah, because what happens is now that you have more energy around you, more money... Everyone's trying to take and people are trying to... Negative forces...

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And money amplifies things. So if you have a lot of problems, it will amplify a lot of the problems. It might solve some temporarily, but if you haven't changed the... the doubt or the uncertainty within you, that's gonna amplify into greater uncertainty and doubt with money, and making you kind of step into scarcity, holding it back, frustration, anger, all these different things as well.

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This is true, and we have to understand why.

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There was a moment in the book where I talk about this, this relationship with money and early on in my kind of business journey and, and trying to figure out who I was in my early mid twenties, I had a mentor that would go on walks with me every single week that I would ask questions to about business and marketing and all these different things.

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No one's thinking this way. Now I'm going to go learn financial literacy. Now I'm going to understand how to use it. Now I'm going to understand the tax codes and all these things. You don't know all that stuff.

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So you actually bring all this energy in, but nowhere do you change your own vessel. I guarantee you 99% of people watching and listening are saying, but I still would love to have $5 million just handed to me. Okay.

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And you need the certainty to figure it out. But if you don't have certainty, there's a process to creating certainty as well. Correct.

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Good. Yeah. It feels good now.

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And I was struggling after like six months, I wasn't making any money. I was really struggling trying to figure out my way. And I remember saying to him, man, I'm struggling right now. I could really use some money. And he told me, money comes to you when you're ready for it. And on that walk, I said, well, I'm pretty ready to receive some money. I'm broke. I'm living on my sister's couch.

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Here's also the thing people watching and listening, I already know they're going to be saying and thinking is, I don't know which direction to go. I have all these options laid out. I have my mom or my spouse or my friend telling me what I should do around my career, this...

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17 passion projects that I want to work on all at the same time, and I don't know which decision to make, how does someone get certainty when there's so many options and people telling them what to do? That's a great question.

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I could really receive some money right now. And that stuck with me. Money comes to you when you're ready for it. And if wealth comes too quickly without proper preparation, it can create chaos in your life. And you see this all the time with pro athletes who go bankrupt two years after they retire because they weren't ready for it. You hear this from lottery winners.

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So if you pray... What's the difference between spirituality and prayer?

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David Guillaume is back and he spent over a decade of his life focused on serving spiritually to communities around the world. Then he shifted his mindset and said, how can I serve spiritually but also financially create abundance in my life? And he has gone on with his wife, Mary Ruth, to build a billion-dollar brand called Mary Ruth's.

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How do you say it? Creator. Creator.

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who lose all their money and have extreme depression within a couple of years after winning lottery. You hear this sometimes from children of wealthy parents who were handed down a ton of money without being ready for it. If they weren't prepared for it financially and spiritually, then it might create more chaos in their life.

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How often are you praying on a daily basis? So I have learned that...

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Okay. So that's prayer. And then the fourth part is physical.

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You see this with child stars who have tons of fame and wealth, all these different things. We're going to be talking about this and so much more in today's episode. And if you have not got a copy of the book, which talks about healing the relationship with money in your life so you can break free from the financial blocks that you have, make sure to get your copy of Make Money Easy right now.

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So you could work really hard, spend tons of time, but not feel like you're getting a lot of results, or feel like the results are coming very slowly, or for others it becomes more effortless, but for you it's harder, and maybe you've been doing it for years.

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It's because you're not focusing on all four quadrants to improve the quality of them, or maybe you're not doing one of them or two of them or whatever it might be. And so you should be assessing, okay, within these four areas of my life, spiritual, certainty, prayer, and physical, Do I have any blocks?

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Yeah, spiritual is number one, right? Number two, certainty. Number three, prayer. Number four, physical. Do I have any blocks? Am I paying attention to this area of my life or am I neglecting it? If I'm neglecting it, how can I improve it? All these different things. And making it a daily practice to try to Improve all four of them.

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What's the area... Which key do you struggle with the most in your life right now? Spiritual, certainty, physical, or prayer or physical? Which one is blocking you from the next level?

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You can go to the link in the description of this episode or go to Amazon and type in Make Money Easy. Get your copy right now. Get a couple copies for your friends as well. This will give you the tools to unlock that relationship that's blocking you from the abundance in your life. And there are so many... strategies, and tools to support you in your growth. It'd mean a lot to me.

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I love that you started this when we talked about going from kind of broke to millionaire today. If you had to restart this process or teach this process to someone who's struggling financially, that's trying to earn a lot of money. Yeah. That you don't give some, you know, go register a business domain or start an LLC or, you know, buy this book and learn these kind of financial strategies.

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The book is out in one week, but you can pre-order it today. I'm also going on tour. If you go to lewishouse.com slash tour, I will be on the road in Austin, Texas, New York City, Boston, Nashville, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and San Diego starting March 15th through March 25th. Make sure to get your ticket right now. Bring your friends and family along. lewishowes.com slash tour.

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You're not teaching that first. You're saying, understand your spiritual vessel and take an assessment of where you are in the four areas of life. Spiritual, your level of certainty and belief in God. Yourself, your prayer, your level of prayer and how that looks for you and your physical world. Because I think a lot of people get ahead of themselves on how do I make money?

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What do I need to create? I need to come up with some good idea and then execute this idea. They get ahead of themselves on the product, the process, who they need to hire before assessing themselves. Correct. Creating self-awareness on their life. Correct. And these are the, like you said, this is the soil for you to expand and grow. Correct.

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And without having fertile soil, without having the assessment of these kind of four areas, you will ultimately fail or be stressed or be overwhelmed or burdened with something else and be brought back to these four areas. That's correct.

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So you might be getting ahead of yourself and be successful on the outside, but suffer on the inside without applying these four keys and constantly being reminded of them. Correct. So that is the first, I don't know if that's the first four steps for you then, but would there be other steps after that?

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Once you were like, okay, I'm gonna get into a spiritual practice and ask God to show me what my soul needs right now to expand my vessel. I'm going to have certainty that this is everything that everything that's happening for me is happening for my good, for my benefit, for growth. I'm certain this is working out. I'm certain this is for me. Thank you so much.

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Appreciating what you're creating right now to into prayer. Give me the certainty. I have certainty. I am certainty. I am wealth. Like saying these things over and over again.

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anything. Yes. And then making sure that the body is taking care of itself, that you are taking care of your body. You're moving, you're sweating, you're sleeping. You're intentional about what you're eating and how you're consuming all these different things. Once you've got that foundation and you still got to go make money now, what are you doing next?

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I would love to see you because we got some great things happening on that tour that you do not want to miss my friend. Okay. Thank you again for your support as always for being here on this show, the school of greatness. Without further ado, let's dive into the episode right now. Welcome back everyone to the school of greatness. Excited about today's episode with David Guillen.

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Wow. So... It is very... Because you don't want to be criticized or you don't want someone to say you're not living up to the standard that you're preaching or something like that.

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Intentionally. It's not authentic. It's a disconnection. What is the biggest fear for you then? We've heard the... The thing that you maybe, I mean, I guess, again, you're doing all these four things at a high level, but you're saying the spiritual aspect is the thing that's speaking to you that you need to continue to step into. Yeah.

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Even though it's not like you've erased the spiritual aspect, but you're like, okay, I need to refocus on this at another level. Yeah. But what is the biggest fear you face in your life right now? Because you have this billion-dollar-plus brand. You have a growing audience of communities that are inspired by you. You're the healthiest you've ever been. You know, your kids are starting to grow up.

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We are talking about the step-by-step process from growing a Broke to Millionaire and what that would look like. And also how to make... making money easier in your life. Because I think a lot of people struggle with making money or they feel like they have to work hard to make money.

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What is your biggest fear? You have spiritual wisdom that you've been teaching and serving for a long time. You know, what's the big fear for you?

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Interesting. But you've been teaching workshops for 20 years. I have. To big audiences, to massive celebrities, billionaires, like they all come to you and say, teach me, coach me, help me.

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And I want to get into that in a little bit about, you know, do you need to work hard all the time or is it sometimes in order to make money? What does that look like? But you have, you've been on the show now many times and people love our conversations around this. In the last episode around money, we talked about the energy around manifesting money. Yes.

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Now that they're telling you the whole life story for three hours and you're trying to be present and serve and you're like, okay, now I'm exhausted. Correct.

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And you, in my mind, are a money-manifesting expert. You went from spiritual teacher for many years making no money to manifesting an abundance of money, having a billion-dollar brand and business with Mary Ruth's Organics. And I wanted to ask you the first question. If you were broke today...

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But isn't the whole point of life to receive? Yes. So how... We're creating something to serve. That's a very deep question. We're creating because we want to serve, and the whole point is to receive all of our life's desires and dreams and manifestations and abundance, right? So do we just create and not receive anything?

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So what does that look like specifically for you right now or for someone watching right now? Maybe they do something, maybe it's with a good intention, but unconsciously, or they still want that validation, or they still want someone to acknowledge them, or they still want someone to appreciate how hard they're showing up for them or whatever.

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Maybe it's an employee and they want that from their boss consistently. Maybe it's your romantic partnership. You do something for your partner and they're not thanking me or appreciating me enough. I'm guilty of all those things. Yeah. So what would the process look like for anyone or for yourself to going from a linear vessel of I'm going to do something and I hope to get something.

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And then I got to do it all over again. And then I got to keep showing up every day. And the minute somebody doesn't give you a validation, you're depressed for three, four days. You're resentful. You're frustrated. You're, you know, whatever. You're negative. You're negative thought process. So how do we get out of this linear loop that holds us back from needing something consistently? Yeah.

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when we still need things to live and survive also in the physical realm to getting into a circular place where you don't care about receiving something, but you still give and then you receive abundantly.

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All of the money was gone and you had to create a step-by-step process from going to broke to millionaire and beyond. What in practical terms would that look like for you? And would it be hard?

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So what does that look like? You do something for someone else. You give a speech. You do this podcast and a thousand people message you. You're amazing, David. That was incredible. You blew my mind. Thank you for your wisdom and you're changing my life. How do you invoice the Creator instead of people validating it?

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We should. And you don't want to bypass and say, oh, it's all the creator. You don't want to bypass it either. Don't say, it's not me, it's the creators.

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A lot of people don't like his story, but yeah. A lot of people don't like it. I'm not here to paint it. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. But there's a very powerful. He freaking exploded and this massive unicorn got huge investment, but then it all crumbled. We Crash was the documentary. I was in it. You were in it? Well, they took a part of my. Oh, wait.

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Actually, I. They took an interview clip of mine and recreated it.

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Because I had the only interview with Rebecca.

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And so they kind of recreated that clip of me and even say like School of Greatness, but it was some actor.

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I've always kept them by myself. I went to the school that she created and I thought it was a fascinating concept and I was there and I was watching. I was like, these kids are playing music in the morning and they're running around and it's creative learning.

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So that it doesn't happen.

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Personal brand. Yeah. So that's interesting. So how do you build a personal brand? Because people need to hear from a messenger. They need to hear from people that they can connect with or relate to from their story, their backstory. And so how do you or how does anyone build a personal brand without losing themselves in the desire to be validated constantly from their community or audience?

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Because the personal brand is going to help you probably get to the next level of reaching people. They need to know about you if you want to impact 100 million people.

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But how do you not let that take over your soul of like, oh, I'm the man or I have all this attention or people love me? Yeah. So, I don't know.

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They've put the highest high, all the attention, all the investors, all the money, all the press, and then boom.

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Let's say, let's say if that's something that you desire to reach hundreds of millions of people and spread a message of light, energy, love, and wholeness to the world. Yeah. And people want to acknowledge you to spread this message on the cover of magazines, on podcasts or whatever it might be, billboards or whatever, everything. It's like, you're out there, your face.

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the man, the man who brings the message to the mass. You know, it's like, how will you approach that to say, Oh yes, I desire this also to bring it. And this is a consequence of me spreading this truth, spreading this message. And I'm going to be on the cover of things and things are going to happen for me. And millions of people are going to see these things. How,

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how will you set your future self up now? What seed are you planting now to set yourself up so that you don't lose yourself, your ego in the linear vessel and you go into the circular vessel of, I'm just pouring this back into the creator, back into light, energy, and redoing those four keys in my life and making sure I have the foundation and putting in circular, not linear.

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What's the seed you need to plant now for that to happen? So when you're on the cover of Forbes, when you're on the cover of whatever, It doesn't get to you.

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And today, David's going to reveal that true wealth creation begins not with business strategies but with spiritual alignment. And some of you might be thinking, well, I just need more tactics and I need the right strategies to create income and to invest and all these different things. But that's true.

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Because it's coming. If you desire it. Yes. It will happen.

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So if the creator is speaking to you right now. and saying, this is exactly what you need to do in order for you to receive all the blessings and to be able to share my message with the world and to serve humanity at the highest level, to bring them light, to expand their vessel so they are able to remind themselves that they are made of pure love and wholeness.

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What does the creator need to say to you so that your ego doesn't think you were the one doing this when the fame, the success, the magazine covers come your way?

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Because you have so much momentum, so many opportunities. Oh, this is all these blessings are coming to me. And my whole purpose is to receive them. Right. So I'm receiving, I'm receiving.

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So it's getting away from those four keys. Yes. It's like, it's just because you have so much going on that all your day is stacked that you kind of forget about the four keys.

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You know, it's interesting. I had a pastor on a couple of years ago named Michael Todd and Christian pastor. And he had a book come out that was on the New York Times list. I can't remember the exact, I think it was like three months, every week in a row for like three months, something like this.

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And early on in his pastor mentorship with like the pastor that taught him how to be a pastor and the person he was being mentored under, his pastor mentor said, before you get into this, I want to remind you that I take a month every year to recharge. And every year, it doesn't matter if everything's going well, everything's going wrong, I take a month every year to reset, and I do no work.

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No work for a month, no preaching, nothing. I'm with my family, I'm recovering, etc. And He had been doing this every year for, I don't know, seven or eight years, as long as he's been doing his church. And his church just took off, like crushing. Like he saw him everywhere, his audience, his platform, the church. Everything is crushing. The New York Times bestselling book. And...

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The week it went off, he was on the New York Times bestseller list for every week for three months or something or five months. The week it stopped being on the New York Times bestseller list was the first week of his month of that year of his taking off time. And I go, why would you stop the momentum?

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And he goes, because I made a commitment and my pastor mentor told me early on that great things are going to happen. But if I don't take time for me and my health and my relationships with my wife, my kids, like I'll eventually fall.

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And he had a transformation with his own physical health over the last couple of years. And it's like... I think there's something to that. There's a scary thing of blocking your momentum and stopping it.

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Cause you're like, but this opportunity and this thing and this thing, but it's like, if you're not willing to take care of these other things and stop yourself to pause, it doesn't mean you have to block the flow of abundance coming to you, but take time to really recharge. And it might have to be in the middle of the greatest like momentum you've ever had. So hard. It's really hard.

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Into being circular, not a start and end. That's right. And so that it doesn't like end and you have to restart all this momentum because you have a big crash.

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You know, going back to the WeWork founders is like, they're fine. I mean, they've got tons of money still, but... Have they really rebuilt something again? You know, it's like the bigger the crash is probably like it takes more time to build momentum up again, right? You've got to let the dust settle. You've got to recalibrate your own personal life, all these different things, right?

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And maybe they've got so much money it doesn't matter anymore. But it's like there's still a recovery phase that happens when you crash. Correct. To course correct, to get back on track, to heal, mend, whatever you need to mend. And so it's just something to think about.

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Yeah. So it's just something to think about, but I mean, so that's your, that's your biggest fear.

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Man, how to go from broke to millionaire. It's all about the foundational stuff. And this is really kind of the mindset stuff behind it because you know a lot of people have made a lot of money and lost it all. And so it's like, what's the point of doing it unless you have the wholeness and the peace and the certainty within you that you are creating from a place of not needing the validation?

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Yeah. receiving the blessings that come to you and creating meaningful relationships with people, but not doing it because you need the validation, but doing it because you want to give from a place of service and from a place of, I guess, giving it all up to the Creator.

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And what did you say, taking receipts from the creator? Invoicing the creator?

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What does that mean, invoicing the creator?

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Because you trust the creator is going to bring you everything you need.

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Yeah, and how much. And how much. I did this much energy. Pay me a billion dollars now. Yeah, it's not going to happen.

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And resentful. Man, that's been one of the biggest challenges for me. It's like, it's funny because I took this test or this like online quiz of like, who's your Disney character? I don't know if you've ever like, you know what I'm talking about? Like it's a BuzzFeed or something or it's like of like the thousand Disney characters. It's like your personality test of like who you are, right?

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And mine was Maui. And Maui feels like he does all these things for all these people and no one appreciates him. Oh my God. And I was like, yeah, that's probably me. You know, it's a, yeah. And so it was just a good reminder to be like, okay, I need to stop needing the appreciation of people. And I used to be an extreme people pleaser where like, I'm just going to give, give, give, give, give.

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And they didn't, people didn't, you know, acknowledge it or whatever. Right. And I'm like, mother effers, you know, like what's going on? I'm like putting all this energy into this and they're taking it, but not even a thank you or whatever. Right. That's the whole Maui's thing. It's like, he says, thank you. You're welcome or whatever. Right. So.

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He's like, I brought the moon down for you, and you didn't even say thank me. I brought the freaking land up. He didn't say thank you. All these different things in the songs. Wow. I was like, yeah, I can relate to that. That makes sense. And it speaks true to me what you're saying.

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Instead of needing the acknowledgement from people or needing someone to thank you or needing someone to give you something in return or whatever it might be, if I'm wanting to truly be of service— then all I should be thinking of is gratitude from the creator, not gratitude from people.

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Now, I think it'd be nice to have some type of decency of just a simple thank you because, I don't know, I feel like there's something there in exchange of energy with people still.

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That's interesting. So it's cool. Don't look for validation from people. invoice God or the creator to pay you for your services. And it may show up in people providing clients or opportunities or jobs or whatever it might be.

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Wow. That's beautiful, man. Well, I appreciate you, David Thieme, in the house. This has been a powerful episode. Again, for people watching or listening, leave your biggest takeaway from this episode. What opened up for you? What spoke to you? What resonated? What is the one thing you needed to hear today?

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We need to feel pain to then bring attention to it to start focusing on how to improve it.

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And what's the one action step you're going to take to support you in the four keys of your life, spiritual, certainty, prayer, and physical? And also, what action step are you going to take to go from a linear vessel into a circular vessel in your life? Share this with a friend. Let us know, even though we don't need the validation. Let us know what is speaking to you, what is resonating to you.

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Don't worry, we won't hold on to all the validation. We'll bring it in and let it go. We'll help each other. But we appreciate all of your comments in the previous videos and episodes and everyone sharing this with people.

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I appreciate you, David, for being a channel of inspiration, of hope, of wisdom from our ancestors and wise individuals before us and being able to communicate in a way that people can understand it and communicating the message in a way where people can resonate and connect with it. exactly where they're at in their life.

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And I hope everyone watching and listening hears exactly what they need to hear and they act on that thing in the next step. I'm not expecting people to understand all of it and try to apply it all at once. It's a lot. But if there's one thing that's speaking to you,

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that thing that hits you in your heart or your chest and something you're like, oh yeah, I know I need to work on that or oh, that spoke to me or I can relate to that. Move into that fear, move into that pain, say thank you, what a blessing, what a pleasure and lean into it. So David, thank you so much for being here. davidgeam.com, your social media, davidgeam as well.

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You've got masterclasses on this wisdom. It goes extensively on your website as well. And I'm excited to keep creating together, my man. Appreciate you. Thank you so much. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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You could have those strategies and tactics and all these kind of things, tools that could help you increase the processes in your career or your business. But so often there are mental, physical, or spiritual limitations that hold us back from believing we are worthy and deserving of creating more true financial abundance.

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What's a common fear you hear around people who say, I'm trying to make more money or I'm struggling making more money or I'm in debt and it's, I don't know what to do to make more money. And you ask them, what's your fear? What's the common response?

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And in this episode, we're going to talk about why doubt is the greatest blocker to abundance and how certainty is your VIP access to the miracle zone in financial opportunities. We're also going to talk about how to shift from creating a linear vessel inside of you that constantly needs external validation to creating a circular vessel that can receive endlessly.

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So if someone doesn't feel like they are whole or complete right now, and if they don't trust that they are in the right position in this moment where they need to be from the Creator, from God, from the Creator, What's going to happen to them if they don't believe they are whole and they don't have certainty around that?

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There are two big things happening at one time that I've never done before. I'm going on a book tour for my new book, Make Money Easy, and I'm doing a podcast tour at the same time. It is going to be big and I'm going to seven cities in 10 days. Get your friends, get your family, bring everyone you know to these cities. I'm coming to Austin, Texas, New York, Boston. We're going to Nashville.

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And you could live. you know, the greatest version of yourself, destiny, or you could stay stuck until the end of your life.

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And they might be your parents, they might be your siblings, they might be like the closest people to you at birth.

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Now, this is interesting. What happens when a woman who has been hurt by men over and over again say, I'm swearing off all men. I'm never going to date another man again. I don't trust men. They've all hurt me. They've all been liars and cheaters, and they break my heart every time. I'm off men. I'm only going to focus on being with women now. Or being alone.

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What happens to that woman when they make that declaration, that commitment, and they swear off? Okay. men and say, I'm either going to be single the rest of my life because I don't want to deal with the BS or the pain or the lies of men, or I'm just going to find a woman that I can be happy with.

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Without further ado, let's dive in. Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring David Guillaume back in the house. Good to see you, man. Thank you for having me. Very excited about this.

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It'll come back around. You've got to face it.

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Our first interview that we did has over a million views on YouTube and has spread like wildfire in people's hearts in a way that really resonates with people. You're a spiritual wisdom teacher for many years, but you've also created a billion-dollar business with Mary Ruth, with your founder, Mary Ruth.

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Oh, yeah. I want him to do something back for me.

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And you've done a lot of powerful things in the business world, but also in the spiritual world. And in your workshops and classes, you teach a lot about relationships. Our first episode, which we'll link up for people as well, go watch that. That was really a one-on-one on manifesting. Yeah, it was more about manifestation.

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But in humanity, we still have to deliver value and get results, and otherwise we won't survive. So there has to be some level of like, Receiving, but not needing.

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For example, if- What does that look like? Yeah.

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I don't want the favor if they're expecting something else in return. Like I'm going to give you this. I'm like, okay, what are you going to ask for? That's part of it.

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Yeah, yeah. Because you don't want to block gifts either, right? You don't want to block gifts. If someone's going to give you something and you say, no, thank you for thinking of me and this generous gift, but I'm okay. It's so painful to the giver.

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Interesting. What's been the biggest challenge you've faced in relationships? Personally? The thing that your soul came, that it's had to grow through or it's still learning how to grow through?

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It was a one-on-one on how to really set up and align your life to manifest more of anything you want. Yeah. This one where we're going over is how to really manifest a powerful, committed relationship and stop getting in toxic relationships because I can speak for myself. I got in relationship after relationship that felt exciting in the beginning, but then turned

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But all you were doing is kind of going against it by being the most altruistic service person you could be. Correct.

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How has that shown up for you then in intimate relationships in your 20s and I guess being married as well and now separated? Well, I'll tell you something.

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I don't know if I would say toxic, but turned stressful. How do people define toxic? I just think if there's always a breakdown. That's how I would think about it. Maybe it's a relationship that's just in breakdown mode constantly. I think toxic is more of man, this is like scary, like scary where it's like aggressive, abusive. I feel like that's toxic.

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Celebrities and beautiful women. All the time. People going through like heartbreak or going through tragedy that are coming to you and see you as a spiritual teacher.

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How did you know on day one you met her that she was the one? But also, she's not the one anymore. In an intimate sexual relationship.

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So you're still soulmates in a certain way, but you just have transformed the intimate relationship.

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I think I was more in just broken relationships. You know, we just weren't aligned, all of them. And I take responsibility for creating them and the space I brought into those relationships and the intention, all these different things. But I guess my first question for you is, is it possible to manifest love, healthy love?

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You feel betrayed or you feel this or you feel whatever.

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And also, what is the biggest mistake that people are making when they try to manifest healthy love?

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I mean, so much pain, so much suffering, so much depression, so much agony, what's the point?

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Then we're going to Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Francisco. Make sure to get your tickets right now. Go to lewishouse.com slash tour. Again, bring everyone you know if you're looking to create more financial freedom and abundance in your life and you want to see a massive guest live on the School of Greatness show. Get your tickets. I can't wait to see you there. Welcome back, my friend.

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I feel like I've only asked one question and we've already been going so deep on this. And I want to bring it back to a grounded thing that you talked about towards the beginning that

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We as human beings, and we're talking about relationships, but we as human beings, from your perspective, from your beliefs, from these principles and these laws, our entire mission is, should be thinking about how do I build my spiritual soul's vessel? How do I build a greater vessel within my soul so that I have the capacity to take on greater challenges and greater abundance.

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Would that be a correct statement for you? That would be correct. So it's about, we should be focusing on our soul's vessel, not how do I meet the guy, how do I meet the girl to give me love, to make me feel loved, to make me look good on social media, to have fun with. We shouldn't be thinking about that when trying to create a relationship or get into a relationship.

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And again, this whole topic is about really how to manifest a committed relationship and stop attracting toxic partners, stop attracting relationships that feel like, gosh, they're great for the first six months, and then there's just breakdown and problem and breakdown, but then I'm already chemically and emotionally entangled and sexually entangled, and then the parents, and I already planned out the wedding and all these things, and how do I get out of this now?

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And then I repeat the cycle over and over again. And what I'm hearing you say through all this is that most people are thinking that way as opposed to, how do I build my soul and my spiritual vessel to be its greatest it can be? And then from that place, start dating. Beautiful. Start having conversations. Beautiful. Flirt with someone. Hey, let's go get a coffee. Let's go for a hike.

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Let's go walk. Let's do an activity together. And just start having conversations from a place of, What it sounds like, a healing journey, a journey of wanting to expand, a journey of how can I make this moment great? How can I be of service in this moment? Not how can I get something from someone or how can I gain pleasure or feel good about myself? How can I create that within?

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How can I know that I am the one for me? I don't need someone else to be the one. And when I become the vessel for myself that is needed to serve my highest purpose in this moment, in this day,

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then i will be able to see people that i feel like are more in alignment with that vision as well that they are more in alignment with creating a spiritual vessel within themselves and then we can start to have conversations do we align spiritually with our life's mission is there alignment as opposed to When are we going to have sex? When can I get a kiss from this person?

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When are they going to buy me something? Is he the one? Is he the one? I don't know. What do my girlfriends think? What do they think? Do they like him? We're asking the wrong questions. Complete distraction. They're all distractions. Why are we so distracted when we're dating and looking at all the wrong things? Why is that happening for so many people?

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He was horrible. She was horrible. And they wasted my life. And they stole time from me. And my best years are beyond me. And all these things. All of these things.

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And if someone has sexually abused you or harmed you or been emotionally abusive or controlled and done some horrible things, What do you say to maybe a man or a woman who's like, no, this person was just horrible. Like it wasn't just, oh, they were emotionally abusive here and there. And it was like a waste of like four years of my life. But they beat me. They sexually abused me.

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They freaking, you know, cheated on me with my best friend behind my back for years and lied about it. Like what if they did some really bad things? How do you bless and want the best for someone who has really hurt you?

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So it's almost like if you don't believe that you had a soul contract, coming to this world, if you don't have a foundational belief of like, okay, you were here with this type of wound or with this type of, whatever, soul contract that you needed to heal, that you needed to, you actually need this challenge to become the greatest version of you.

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And you were putting your energy towards good. You were being in service. So what parents are going to say, stop helping people? You were focusing your energy on something positive as opposed to, I'm going to go... just travel the world and take drugs all day or something. You weren't like, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna figure it out for five or 10 years.

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You were like, I'm on a mission. I'm here to serve. I'm here to learn. I'm here to help humanity.

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Now, here's a question I think everyone is asking, which is how do we get on the vibration of love to be able to receive the love we want?

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Why do people think they deserve to be in an abusive relationship?

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And without it, you won't be able to fulfill your life's mission. You almost need to believe that in order to say, okay, this is all actually beautiful. The toxic relationships I've had, the abusive partners, the people that lied or cheated on me, or the things that I did to other people that were out of integrity, this is actually... meant to happen for you. Correct.

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Or I'm trapped, or if I'm committed, then I'm going to miss out on something else or whatever it might be.

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Whether it's for our nights or weeks or months or years.

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Now, I want to ask you a very important question. What is the difference between what men want and what women want in a healthy long-term relationship? And before you answer it, For anyone watching and listening right now, leave a comment below of the biggest takeaway so far that this episode has supported you with.

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So if you're watching on YouTube, leave a comment below, like this video, share with a friend. If you're listening on Apple, Spotify, wherever it might be, share this with someone and ask them their biggest takeaway on this episode. And the question is, what on a soul level do men and women really want and are there differences?

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And before you answer, I want to let people know that they have to follow and subscribe in order to get the answer because we're going to go into part two on relationships with this question. So again, what men and women really want on a soul level, we're gonna do a full second episode on this topic right now that will come out soon. So make sure to follow this, subscribe.

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I think there's a lot here to get people started with. I wanna recap a few things.

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Yeah, look at this, did you see this? People are coming up to us left and right and saying, oh, the first episode, we'll have the first episode also linked up so you can go through that. And I think that'll be important if this is the first time you're hearing about this or someone sent you this, go watch the first episode we did.

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But there's a few things here, and again, we're gonna go into a part two in a second, but there's a few things here I wanna recap. The whole thing should be figuring out how do I build my vessel on a spiritual and soul level and expand it for healthy, abundant, harmonious, aligned love.

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I think a lot of people who are single or struggling in relationships are trying to figure out how do I make this work? How do I find the right partner? How do I find my soulmate, which is what we're going to go into? What do men and women really want? How do I think like them? You know. I'm done with men. I'm done with women. All these things, right?

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And we're talking about in this episode is how do I build my spiritual soul's vessel?

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My parents did this, and then this person was a bad partner, and then... Correct.

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Interesting. But one of the things that you said here that I think really resonated with me, that I think a lot of people, if they can learn how to do this, which I want to actually go into in the second episode, is how do we build the belief that we are deserving of the love we want? Which I don't think we, we didn't talk about how to shift the belief.

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of how to believe differently that we are deserving. So I wanna talk about that as well in this second part and understanding how you need to be the one, not finding the one as well. And how do we build that up? We're gonna be talking about that in episode two on relationships. So again, make sure to like this, leave a comment below. What are some of the questions that you have?

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What's your biggest takeaway? Share this with one friend and we're going to learn more on the second episode. So David, thank you so much for being here. And we'll have everything linked up as well with the previous episode and what you're working on. But I'm very excited for what people are going to learn in the second episode.

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I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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Lewis Howes here, and I am so excited about this episode. David Guillaume has been on the show multiple times now, and this is all about love and relationships.

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So if you feel like you've struggled or you've had some toxic patterns that you have been jumping in relationship after relationship that hasn't worked for you, David's going to reveal and share the transformational wisdom about how our souls choose specific challenges to help us grow. And sometimes this is the worst and it hurts the most in intimate relationships and in love.

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And a very expensive gift within the first month of knowing a person.

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And you're creating a standard that you're going to have to live up to for the length of this relationship. If you're doing this much in the first few months and then you stop doing it, you think she's going to be happy with that? She's going to say, oh, you were creating a standard for me. Now I expect $10,000 credit card every month and a new watch every month and shoes.

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And the way you're wowing me in the first month, You think a woman's going to be happy if you just cut it all off and say, I'm going to give you a lot less now. That's not going to go well in the relationship.

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But a lot of women watching or listening might say, that sounds like a dream man. He's just going to take me out, and he's going to pay for everything, and he's going to take me on expensive trips. He's in his masculine.

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He's going to provide for me right away the way I feel like I deserve. A man should treat me.

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And also why focusing on building your spiritual vessel is more important than searching for the perfect partner. You may not want to hear that, but some powerful insights are about to come. Also, we've got a new book called Make Money Easy that is coming out very soon.

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Make sure to get your copy because it's about healing your relationship to money and also about how relationships in our lives and money, when they mix without having some of these principles in place, will really hurt your relationships as well. So make sure to get your copy of this to support you on your journey to becoming financially free within your relationships as well.

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My friend, thank you so much for being here today. And I have a massive announcement, super big, something I've been doing behind the scenes for the last two years. But really, it's been 12 years in the making since I started the School of Greatness show. And if you are looking to create financial freedom in your life, if you're looking to create financial peace, if you want more abundance and

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And those gifts that I thought were pointless, I didn't even think they were useful. It's everything that I use for for the School of Greatness show now, which is one of the biggest shows in the world. But I didn't know how to uncover those gifts. We talk about how to do that to appreciate your value, uncover those hidden gifts so you can earn more.

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Then we talk about something that, man, has changed my life around business and money. And that is how to discover and develop money mentors in your life to help you from... minimizing the risks and the losses around your financial journey and helping you maximize the gains. When I started to learn about money mentors, it changed everything for me.

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One thing a money mentor could say to you could help you earn so much more or help you save from losing a lot as well. We talk about all these principles in the book and I give you the money mentors that I've interviewed in their greatest tips in Make Money Easy as well.

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All the best people that I've interviewed, I got them to mentor me and also I got them to mentor you and I share their best practices in Make Money Easy. We talk about all these things and more because this isn't just another book about finances or investing. That's not what this is about. This is everything you need to own your worth so you can earn more and create the abundance you desire.

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And in this book, you discover the seven money habits to unlock financial peace and freedom. And these seven habits are crucial. Again, 12 years of interviews on the School of Greatness with some of the top leaders in the world, financial experts in the world, money masters. And here are seven habits that you need to unlock to create financial abundance and peace in your life.

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First is the mindset habit. This is key. So many people try to get ahead of the mindset habit. And by doing so, you might make more, but you feel more scarce, you feel more chaotic, you feel more anxious around money. The mindset habit is key and is the first thing that we talk about in making money easy. Then we talk about the mapping habit, how to map your

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vision for the money you want in your life. We talk about the monetizing habit, how to monetize your skill sets for true abundance. Then we go into the mastermind habit. Man, when I learned this principle, it's almost like I tripled and quadrupled my earnings within six months when I developed and understood the mastermind habit. Then we go into the mobility habit.

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One of the biggest causes of divorce are around money problems. People fight with friends and family around money problems. This is such a big topic. Again, the biggest episodes we do are around money and how to unlock more abundance in your life.

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This is really how you scale your wealth to the next level. by understanding how to maximize your time and delegating the things that you don't need to do. Then we go into the magnetic habit. Ooh, life is a game of enrollment, my friend. And there's a powerful question you can ask. What's the chance? What's the chance? What's the chance?

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There's so many things you can do that we talk about in this book to enroll people in your dreams and your goals and in your vision. And that comes with the magnetic habit. Then we've got the mastery habit. The seventh and final habit around this book is mastery. This is going to be powerful. And again, if money has been a struggle for you,

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or if you feel anxious or avoidant or emotionally overwhelmed with your financial situation, now is the time for a change. Now is the time. I want you to feel secure with money. I want you to step into a room and money be right in front of you and you have a beautiful relationship with money. that person called money. I want you to be able to look money in the eyes.

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I want you to feel relaxed and comfortable, feel expansive. I want you to feel like you have all the skills to be able to have a courageous conversation with money. I want you to feel like, hey, money, I'm gonna give you money, I'm gonna receive money, I'm gonna spend it and feel like it's all good, it flows.

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I want you to be like a river of abundance flowing to you and through you money where you can spend it how you choose, you can save it, you can invest it, you can do whatever you want without feeling anxious, without feeling avoidant, without feeling insecure. I want you to feel attached with your money relationship. And that's what this book, Make Money Easy, is all about.

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Because when you focus on who you are and the unique value you bring to the world, your energy and actions will invite more money to you, my friend. That's what this is all about. And you've been blocking your abundance. You've been blocking it. Maybe you've been able to get to a certain level, but you've been stuck there.

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And again, if that's you, if you feel like I haven't been able to break through on the money I've been making, I've been kind of stuck at this level for a few years, and I just feel like I'm not sure of myself on how to get to the next level, then let me know. If you're watching on YouTube, leave a comment below.

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If you feel like you've been blocked and you're not sure what to do, if you're listening on Apple or Spotify or wherever you're listening, Let me know, message me over on Instagram or post it on YouTube if you feel blocked by getting to the next level because I want you to feel financially free. By the actions and the energy you show up with, you will start to invite more money to you.

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And if you are ready, to live a richer life and create financial peace. Now is the moment, and this is your key to unlock the seven money habits to make money easy. And again, I want you to get this book right now. I want you to pre-order this book. I want you to buy this for yourself.

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And I thought to myself a few years ago, after writing The Greatest Mindset, that becoming a big New York Times bestseller, I said, what is the thing that people need the most? I asked you. I did polls. I did questions out on social media to our email list. I said, what is your biggest pain point and problem? And you responded with money. So money it is. And my goal is to help you make money easy.

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I want you to buy this for a family member or a friend, someone that you know is maybe blocked by their financial situation right now. Maybe they're struggling. This is the book I wish I had when I was broke and on my sister's couch.

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If someone would have had this book and given it to me, it would have given me so much more peace because I learned how to make money around 25, 26, 27, I started to make money. But man, I had a lot of stress and anxiety around it. And I would stack my money in the bank I would just save it and stack it and I was afraid to lose any of it.

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I was afraid like if it went down in my bank account, it would mess me up. It was like my mindset was messed up. I had the skills to earn. I didn't have the emotional mindset to understand how to navigate it though and how to feel at peace about it. So I kept making more and feeling more and more anxious and stressed. And that is like financial prison.

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Having money but feeling like you're a prisoner to it is not enjoyable. Now, being broken on your sister's couch is not enjoyable either. They're both not fun. But when you have the ability to earn more and you have the ability to feel peace and harmony around it and be in a secure relationship with money, man, life just unfolds in a beautiful way. Life feels relaxed.

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You feel like, whoo, I feel light. I feel emotionally light. I feel physically light. I feel spiritually whole. And that's what I want for you. And what you can do right now, if you are struggling or maybe you're making a lot of money, but you feel like, why do I stress about it still? Then you can go to lewishouse.com slash money right now and pre-order a copy of this book.

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It would be a big favor to me if you go get a copy right now. lewishouse.com slash money. And here's what I'm going to do for you. I'm going to give you something in return. I'm going to do a... make money masterclass that is all about the money mindset that you need to create abundance in your life. So we're going to create a money mindset masterclass for you.

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It's only going to be for people that get the book right now. So when you purchase the book, you're going to get a receipt and we'll give you instructions on where to upload that receipt so you can get access to the money mindset masterclass. And we're going to do it around my birthday, which is March 16th, right around when the book will actually be coming out on March 18th.

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But it would be a huge favor for me if I've ever added any value in your life, if you've gotten value from this show, if this...

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show has given you any tools or tips or inspiration to support you, to help you grow in any way, then it would mean a lot to me if you go to lewishouse.com slash money right now, pre-order a copy, heck, pre-order two or five or 10 if you wanna give it to your friends and family. If you know more than one person that has struggled with money,

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then get a few copies right now because they'll ship to your door on the day it comes out on March 18th. So again, I want you to think about how you can show up and give in a way that brings that joy, that brings smile, that shifts someone's energy today like my dad used to do when he would tip in twos. And this is a gift that he passed down to me

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where I've been able to bring so much joy to people just by handing them a $2 bill. And when you can give generously with your heart, the amount of richness that your life has is far more than money. You get an experience, you get a memory, you get a moment with someone when you have a mindset of generosity. And generosity is the gateway to abundance along with gratitude.

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So I wanna express my gratitude for my father who is no longer with us, who gave me this gift. who showed me this mindset every single day of his life. He showed me this generous gift. And I wanna thank you for your generosity, for always showing up and listening and watching and being a part of this show.

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And again, we have a brand new book and I want you to pre-order it today because I'm going to give you a very special money masterclass when you do. I'm going to share more details on that in a second. But first, I want to share a few stories that I think are going to be powerful for you today. Whether you get this book or not, I want you to understand a very important principle around money.

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It's been such a beautiful 12 years and I'm so grateful for the entire greatness team who has helped bring this book to life because it has been two years behind the scenes, a lot of work to simplify money. When in a world for a lot of people, money is hard, we want to make it easy for you. Again, make sure to go to lewishouse.com slash money. I cannot wait for you to get this book.

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This is the book that I wish I had growing up when I was broke on my sister's couch. And it's the book I wish I had a couple of years ago because I still had a lot of anxiety and stress around money. I was making more, but it was kind of like... I still hadn't mastered it. And trust me, I have no way mastered it.

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I need this book now for myself more than ever as a reminder to keep in harmony with money, to have a beautiful relationship with money, to continue to heal and mend my relationship with money so that I feel financially peaceful and abundant every single day. Get your copy. The link will be right down below, pinned in the comment, in the description. Check it out. Pre-order today.

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Please grab a few copies for your friends as well. And I can't wait to see you in the Money Mastermind class that we're going to be doing, the Money Mindset Masterclass coming soon as well. You'll get that when you get a copy. You'll upload your receipt. We'll send instructions on what to do there. Thank you again. And make sure to get your copy of Make Money Easy. today.

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I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel exclusively on Apple podcasts.

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share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on apple podcast as well let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review i really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward and i want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved you are worthy and you matter and now it's time to go out there and do something great

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And again, I've had the fortune of interviewing some of the wealthiest people in the world, billionaires, mega billionaires, multimillionaires, people who have exited hundreds of millions and billions dollars worth of companies. And I've asked poor people questions about what keeps them stuck. I've asked wealthy people questions about what unlocks the keys to freedom in their finances.

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And it's been fascinating over the last 12 years, the research, the science, the practical tips and lessons I've been able to gain from interviewing all these individuals. Plus, in the book, I share so many stories about my own money problems.

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Yes, if this is your first time coming to me or you're new to this show, about, what was it, 15 years ago, I was broke on my sister's couch for a year and a half, making almost nothing, barely scrapping by. One point in my life, I was a truck driver making $250 a week, driving a truck six hours a day from Columbus, Ohio to Cincinnati, Ohio, and back every day, five days a week.

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And if you're looking to go from where you are at your financial situation to creating way more, then I have a special surprise for you. Because for the last couple of years, I've been working behind the scenes, deep research, a lot of work on a brand new book that I'm announcing to you today. And it is coming out very soon. It is called... Make Money Easy.

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I bounced on the weekends for, you know, 10 bucks an hour and trying to get some tips at a nightclub. And I played arena football where I got paid $250 a week as well back in 2007. So I had many different seasons of life where I had no money, I was broke, and I had no clue how I was going to make money.

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I didn't have a college degree when kind of the housing crisis crashed and the economy crashed in 2008, 2009. People weren't hiring during that time with those individuals that had bachelor's degrees and master's, let alone people like me who were sleeping on their sister's couch after getting an injury playing football. And I really just didn't have a lot of the tools.

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Now, I was lucky enough that my dad instilled some principles in me early on. And unfortunately, when I turned 22, my dad got into a pretty tragic car accident. He was in a coma for many months, and for 17 years, he never was able to work again. So I learned some lessons from him early on about the mindset of making money, and I watched him work so hard. Early on, we didn't have a lot of money.

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Then when I turned about 16, his business finally started to take off after 25 years of hard work. He started to make a little bit more money for five to seven years before his accident. And then he just wasn't himself. He wasn't able to work anymore. He lost his memory a lot and his personality shifted where he wasn't able to do much without the care of others for 17 years until he passed.

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But there was a big thing that he taught me early on. Not necessarily by what he said, but what he did. And I want to share this with you because I think it's really important. And I'm going to talk about kind of these principles in the book and how you can start to apply them in your life now so you don't have to just wait until the book comes out. But there was one thing he did early on.

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Every time we went out to dinner or to a restaurant or, you know, he would take me out after a baseball game to buy ice cream with a local dairy point in Delaware, Ohio, small town in Ohio. And he would always do something that would just make people smile, bring so much joy to people's life for a moment. And it would give people a story. And something he did is he would always tip in $2 bills.

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he would tip in $2 bills and it was like, it was like a magic trick every time he did this because I would see him tip or he'd put it in, you know, kind of the, the restaurant receipt thing where you put your money in and you fold it up when the waiter would open it up and they would see $2 bill tip or multiple $2 bills. They would just light up. It was like,

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If they were having a horrible day, their energy shifted. It was literally like a magic trick. If you wanted to make someone smile, they would rather take a $2 bill than three, four, or five single dollar bills. It was like they would take less in money, but the experience... the joy that people would gain from a $2 bill was magic. And there was a mindset that he taught me.

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It's how can you be generous with your time? How can you be generous with your money? And a lot of the billionaires, a lot of the mega millionaires, there are some of them who are unhappy that stress out a lot. But there are others who just seem like they keep earning and they have a richness to their life. And when I ask them, like, what is the secret to being rich and happy?

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Because not all millionaires are happy. They might have money, but it doesn't make them rich in life. Can I ask the happy ones, the ones who are... fulfilled in their purpose, the ones who have healthy, intact families still. And I'd ask them, you know, what's the key? And so many of them will tell me, be generous. Be generous with your money. Be generous in how you tip. Tip big.

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And I cannot wait to get this book in your hands. Now, again, it's called Make Money Easy because for most of us, we make money hard. And if you want to create financial freedom and live a richer life, this is the book for you. And there's a few things I want to share with you today.

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And I think what my dad taught me early on is something that I still do today. I carry on his legacy in my wallet. I have $2 bills. I tip with $2 bills. I've been doing it for a long time since his accident. And the joy that this brings people is priceless. You don't have to spend a ton of money to be generous, but you can do it in a generous way to create a moment for people.

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So again, the $2 bill tip strategy is one of the coolest things that you can do, something I've been doing since my early 20s. You don't need a ton of money to tip in twos. but it'll make someone's day much happier and richer in that moment. And you have the power to shift someone's energy by how you show up with your positive attitude, but also with just a creative act of generosity.

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So keep that in mind. It's one of the principles in this book, Make Money Easy. I'm gonna talk about what that is. There's another thing I wanna share with you. I was having a conversation with a friend the other day, and I asked them a simple question. If money was a person in your life, how would your relationship be with money? Now, I want you to think about this.

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When I asked this question to a friend, they said, well, if I was walking into a room and money was there as a person, I would not look at money. I would avoid it. I would ghost it if it tried to text me. I wouldn't reply to it, but I would use and abuse it. And I sat there and I just said, hmm. How do you think money feels if you use it in that way?

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If you ghost it, if you avoid it, if you don't look it in the eyes, if you don't talk about it, but when it's there, you're going to use it and abuse it. If you had a friend in your life that you treated that way, do you think that friend would enjoy that feeling? Probably not. And I want to ask you again, Leave a comment if you're watching on YouTube. Message me on Instagram.

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Let me know if money were a person, how would your relationship be with money? Tell me what your relationship is. And I just want you to think about that because money is energy. And the way you interact with money, how you interpret it, the way you feel about it when you see it,

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when it comes to you, when you have to pay it, when you look in your bank account, maybe you don't look in your bank account, how you think about it, when you talk about it, the energy, you either attract more of it or you're repelling it from you and causing more stress in your financial situation. So I want you to think about what your relationship is with money.

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And when you change your mindset around money, your entire life becomes richer. Again, we're talking about my book, Make Money Easy. This is not a book about investing. This is not a book about stock market. That's not what this is about. There are tons of books and resources out there. This is about developing a powerful, energetic relationship with money

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to cover around the book, but also the mindset shift that you need to change in order to unlock prosperity and abundance for your life. And some of the biggest interviews that we've done on the School of Greatness are around money. Why? Because money is such a big topic in our lives. And so many people feel the stress, they feel the strain, they feel the constraints of their money situation.

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So you feel peaceful when you talk about money, when you have money, when you don't have money, when you spend money, all these different things. So I want to read you a few things that I think will be extremely important for you to know as you're getting this book.

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Because I believe it doesn't matter what skills or what stock trades you know or where to invest your money or how to make more money in terms of like, I'm going to get more money from my job. Like, all that is fine. But if you don't change your relationship with money, you're gonna create more stress when you have more money.

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And I've talked to a lot of millionaires who have lost it all, who have ruined their relationships, who have got extreme anxiety when they've created more money because they haven't done the most important thing first with money, which is change their relationship to it. And if you're tired of living paycheck to paycheck, I'm going to read a little bit of this right now for you.

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If you're tired of living paycheck to paycheck, or if you feel trapped by your monthly expenses, or if you wonder how some people enjoy financial freedom while you seem stuck, your relationship with money begins with having the right mindset because most of us don't have it. Until you heal your relationship with money, nothing can change for the better.

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Because if you don't care for your money, your money won't care for you. In this book, Make Money Easy, I'm gonna show you how to identify your money style, which is a key to understanding why you are lacking abundance. Most of us have a money style, but we're just not aware of it. And your money style It stems from your money story.

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We have a history of money in our lives, from what our parents talked about it, from how we used it in school. If we, our friends had more money than us, we had a story about money. And that story shapes our lives today with our money style. And so we're going to identify your money style so you can create a future money history that allows you to create more abundance in your life.

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Wouldn't that be awesome? Wouldn't it be great if we could understand our style so that we can shift it to create more? It's also going to teach you how to develop a powerful money mindset so that you can earn more. Most of us aren't thinking in ways of abundance. We're not thinking in terms of our self-worth being good enough to earn more money. We're just afraid of money.

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I asked another friend recently, they said they don't want to make more money because they'd be afraid they would turn into a bad person. And I said, why would you turn into a bad person? Well, because people that I know who have money, they're just stingy. They're not good with their money. They don't treat people well.

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And I don't want to become out of integrity with money and do that to other people. And so again, this money mindset is keeping you trapped. and holding you to a certain ceiling of how much you're able to make right now.

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And once you can break through that money mindset, which a whole book is about, once you can break through that, then you can start to create an enormous amount of financial peace in your life And live in generosity. You don't have to be out of integrity. You don't have to be stingy when you make money. You don't have to be a bad person. Money is energy. And money amplifies who you are.

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So if you're a stingy, selfish person now, when you make more money, you're going to become more of that. If you're a generous, kind, joyful person now, you're going to amplify that energy into the world when you have more money. So it's about shifting our money perspective, our money mindset. But first you have to understand your money story, the history of your money.

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Then you have to understand your money style. Most of us don't know this. I cover everything about that in this book. Then you can create a powerful money mindset so you can earn more. But if you don't follow the steps, you're not going to be able to get to the next level. You always fall back behind if you don't follow these steps.

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Then we talked about how to create a money map to reach clear financial goals. Most people aren't clear on how much they want to make on a yearly basis. If you're not clear, why would you create more? If you just say, well, I just want to make millions. Well, Why? Why do you want to make those millions? How many millions? If you want to make a hundred grand, why do you want to make that?

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A lot of people are in debt so much from student loans still, where they've used their credit cards to the max and they feel this complexity. constant month to month, am I able to get out of this debt? In fact, our whole nation is in trillions of dollars of debt. It's kind of a mindset of getting the debt, getting the debt to get ahead. But for a lot of people, it doesn't turn out well.

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When do you want to make it by? You've got to clearly define your money map in order to reach your financial goals. We have it all in the book, Make Money Easy. Then we talk about how to appreciate your value and discover your hidden skills and gifts for greater earning potential. You know, when I was broke, I didn't think I had any skills.

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I was just like, there's no way I'm going to learn how to make money. I don't understand it. I didn't go to school for it. I don't know anything about taxes or interest or investments and just like what skills do I have that I can go get a job with? I thought I had nothing. I was just a football player who got injured. I didn't have any skills. I was in the bottom of my class in school.

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So I was terrified around money because I didn't understand it. But when you learn to appreciate your own value and tap into these hidden gifts, we talk about how to find those hidden gifts for extreme earning potential. I didn't know the gifts that I had would make me a millionaire, but they did. They did many times over.

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Happy New Year. Welcome to 2025. You made it. The last five years. It is almost five years since COVID happened, if you can believe it. It was March 16th. on my birthday, 2020, when it seemed like the world shut down. I remember because we were doing a party in my office and we had to send everyone home before they actually came because the world shut down.

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And if you want to learn how to actually rewire your limiting beliefs right now and say, I'm drawing a sand in the line. I'm putting my foot down. And everything that was holding me back is staying behind me. And moving forward, I am actually going to be committed and consistent with a new belief. And I'm going to keep reminding myself to live into this belief.

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They don't have the tools either to teach us.

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Right. So we have we and does everyone build these defense mechanisms?

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It's just they look different for each person.

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It is going to be 12 years of the School of Greatness podcast this month. And so many people ask me, Lewis, do you learn anything new after 1500 or 1700 episodes will be done, whatever, how many number episodes we've done? Do you still learn new things? And I say yes, I do. But I also hear a lot of the same things over and over again. And I'm okay with that.

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Yes, curiosity, compassion, calmness, clarity, creativity, connectedness, courage, and confidence.

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Because I need these reminders, guys, I can easily go in my ego and my negativity and my limiting beliefs, I could go back to those places. where I felt wounded as a child at any moment.

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Is that through the core beliefs of like understanding core beliefs?

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So for me, I do this show for myself as a reminder to constantly stay committed to these types of frequencies, to these types of beliefs, to these types of ideas, so that I can stay in a state of goodness, a state of abundance, a state of positivity. And that is the key. And I want you to go on this journey with me today

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Right. And you created a four-step process for us.

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Well, there's something you said in chapter three about core beliefs, because I think a lot of people hear about their behaviors and beliefs and that we have this a block based on our beliefs, whether that's a childhood belief or a current belief as an adult.

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And you say that the hard truth is that although we can make surface level adjustments to our actions, true change can only happen when we heal from within and address the core beliefs that block us from manifesting the life we desire. So I guess, would this four-step process help us address the core beliefs that are blocking us in manifesting what we want?

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So you're connecting higher self currently to the self that was destructive or harmed or the manager.

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and every week this year on the School of Greatness because I am committed to bringing you the most powerful, valuable, insightful information that I can each and every episode this year. I am going to step up my game. My team is stepping up its game to make sure we are in service at the highest level possible. And I want you on this journey more committed than ever because you deserve

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The parts. Yeah. The manager or firefighter parts of you. That's correct, baby. That cause stress or anxiety or control or perfectionism or whatever it might be.

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So it's almost like we have multiple personalities or memories or people in us, which is weird to say.

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Multiple parts of who we are. Yeah. And there are some parts that are wounded that we get to heal. And the more of those parts that we can have a higher relationship with, a more harmonious relationship with, if you can create a harmonious relationship from the higher self of you to the wounded self parts of you, then things are going to start to flow better in your life.

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15 years, maybe, since I've known you. 2008, I met you.

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Interesting. So the parts that were wounded are still inside of you.

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Yeah, right, right. Chaos. So these parts of us that once controlled us or hurt us to try to protect us because they all had an intention to serve us, but they didn't help the self. really at our highest self.

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Their blocking self, but they're an attempt to try to protect us. Totally. These parts of us, when we can have a relationship, a harmonious relationship with them through healing and mending those wounds, then we can use them for good.

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And it sounds like we could, you know, by doing this self-help work and by following this four-step process that we're going to cover in a second and just going through the book, it sounds like when we can start to have a different relationship with these parts of us that have caused us pain and suffering but also try to protect us, if we can start to have a new relationship by mending those relationships, it can get a lot better.

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But it doesn't mean... Those things can come back at some point if we don't keep having a relationship with them in a healthy way. So you might be six months, I feel better, but then something triggers you and you go back to the wounded part of you that says, I don't feel safe. You need to control this. You need to protect this.

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You need to be a perfectionist in this moment, whatever it is, hypervigilance. And so it's a constant relationship and a conversation of checking in, it sounds like.

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to feel the greatness that is inside of you. You deserve to feel the love that you want to receive. You deserve to experience financial peace and freedom. You deserve to know what your purpose is and how to pursue that purpose. And you're also going to experience challenges and obstacles at different seasons of life along the way.

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Give me a specific example in your life that may be a part of you that comes up sometimes that causes you anxiety or stress.

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Yeah, your team are like, oh, Gabby's in that mode. Part of her is coming out in this moment. They're watching right now.

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She's being a perfectionist or she's over-controlling or she's done whatever it is.

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So whatever that part is for you that maybe has tended to come up a lot in the past, can you give me an example of how you could use this while you're sharing what these four steps are?

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So is that the adult self choosing to check in or is that the child self choosing to check in?

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So it's like what you said with your son, if he's not willing to reciprocate, like saying, let's talk about what's going on. And he's like, no, screw you, mommy, or whatever he's saying, then that's not a check-in. Both parts need to check in.

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Got it, okay. Not that your son would say, screw you, mommy, but I'm just saying. You never know.

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And these challenges are designed specifically to help you overcome the parts of yourself that have been holding you back.

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And so we don't want them to always happen, but when they're happening, just know they're happening for you and they're in your favor if you're willing to lean into them, if you're willing to go all into your fears until those fears disappear and transform yourself into something like your greatest self would be proud of. Again, I am pumped.

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The one that you're remembering now, confidence.

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Because if you're not starting step one, then you're just going to stay in fight or flight, you know, control freak anxiety or whatever your manager is saying.

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Interesting. Because otherwise you are those parts in that moment.

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So you can reflect. You just take a nap.

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This year is time to fully step in to the best version of you. And that's going to rely on all of you to stay committed when there are adversities and challenges. And we have an incredible gift today with the inspiring Gabby Bernstein. Do me a favor. If you've listened to this show for years, or if this is your first time here, we are almost 12 years in the anniversary.

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Yeah, you're staring at a wall or something.

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And you have survived and hopefully you have thrived in the last five years. It hasn't been easy for anyone. There have been challenges. There's been health issues, there's been death, there has been struggles, there has been so many different challenges. But I am telling you, if you can

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Yes. You talk about, in one of your books, becoming a super attractor. How can we become a super attractor by applying this method?

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Because it sounds like you applied the method and you wouldn't have been able to figure this out if you were in stress and control and manager freaked out, control freak mode, you know, that little part of you is back in that, like it needs to be a perfect pigtails or whatever. So how can you attract abundantly without managing the parts of us that are wounded?

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You won't be able to break through certain levels.

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That's true. And isn't it amazing? And I'm sure people watching or listening right now, I've had those moments. I'm sure everyone has had those moments where like, God, I feel it's just like things aren't working and I'm frustrated, but then you get centered.

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Maybe you didn't know you were doing some of these steps, but you get re-centered and you say in a world of possibilities, what can I create? And you call a friend and you say, I'm struggling with this thing. And it's like, who do we know that could help with this? Let's start brainstorming. You start to get creative.

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You don't even know you're doing these steps where you start to say, like, we need to find a solution. Who do we know? What can we, who can we call? Who can do this for us? Who can support us? And you kind of naturally do these things, right?

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Some, I feel like everyone watching or listening has probably had those moments where it's like, wow, a synchronicity came up or the idea to call this person like you did came up and everything fell into place. Yes. And I think the goal with this book, which I'm understanding, is to give people the tools on how to do that every single day.

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That family member or friend that you care about that you want to see thrive this year. Text them this link right now. Just copy and paste. Text it to them right now because Gabby Bernstein is about to blow your mind. And let's go ahead and dive in right now. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest.

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The norm. Not like this happened like twice a year.

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You know, for most people it's like once a year maybe.

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Here's something that I've realized, which most of my life that you've known me through I was like working my butt off to create and to generate results. That was getting them right. And New York time bestseller and all these different things happen just like you. It's like we're able to build businesses and launch stuff and do things.

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But I remember feeling like I was a six or a seven out of a 10, like internally, you know, consistently, I was like living my, and sometimes it's like four, you know, three or four. And I was like, I don't know how I'm able to get these results.

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Feeling so emotionally drained, feeling disconnected at times, feeling frustrated or anxious or obsessive or whatever the feelings I was feeling, the parts of me that were coming out. And I remember just thinking, God, I wonder what life would be like if I was at like an eight, nine or 10 consistently internally. Yeah.

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With self, but also in relationship with, you know, an intimate partner, which I never had really a healthy relationship with. And I'm not here to talk about previous relationships or blame anyone. It was more my work that I needed to do.

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Yeah, that attracted certain people, that stayed in relationships, that was afraid to get out. Acting out in that pattern. Yeah.

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But the thing that I've noticed that, man, life has gotten so good when you can create that self-help for self and you can blend it with another person who's also doing that work. It is magic.

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I don't know, a magical potion that you just... There isn't a day that goes by where Martha and I don't look at each other or we look at each other where we say, God, life is incredible. It's almost daily. Now, there is still life that's happening. She's gone through some extreme challenges earlier this year. You know, family members having some different pains and issues.

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sicknesses and diseases, and there's still life that's happening. There's still bad things that are happening and grief and sadness and loss and anxieties. But for the most part, we're able to bring it back to the higher self, even while being in those emotions of sadness and fear and anxiety that happen in life and frustrations in business or whatever it might be.

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But we're able to bring it back to self individually and And together. And when you can blend it in a relationship, from my experience, what I've noticed, just you're super, you're two super attractors that are attracting and manifesting together. It is unbelievable. And life feels like anything is possible. And it's also like anything is possible and I don't need anything else. That's right.

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We have my dear friend, my sister, Gabby Bernstein, in the house. So good to see you. Thanks for being here in my basement of greatness, in my home.

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It's like more is coming. And if it doesn't come, I'm so happy without it.

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Consistently. I'll give an example. Recently, I had my event, Summit of Greatness, recently. And Esther Perel, I'm interviewing Esther on stage at one point. And we had a massive mess up in terms of the production. This has never happened to me in seven or eight years of doing this event. And we have this whole introduction. You've spoken at my event.

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The fire and the smoke and the video of the person on screen. They're supposed to come out. And we played the video and Esther wasn't ready. So the whole video, people are screaming for her, cheering. And Matt backstage is like, she's not ready.

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And there was a part of me, I go back and I look at that while everyone's standing ovation, there's no one on stage. And I just think to myself, well, it's an opportunity. I go, the show must go on. And how can I show up? You know, how can I show up as a higher self and not a frustrated part of me, right? How can I show up and make the most of this?

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And so I go out on stage and I go, hey, guys, you know, I made a mistake. And, you know, I'm Mr. Perel. I kind of made a joke. I go, I'm Mr. Perel. I made a mistake. Esther's not ready. So we're going to do this all over again in a little bit when she comes back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And just to let you guys know that life doesn't always happen perfectly.

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I saw this online and I was like, there's a whole story around manifesting this. There you go. Which I think is really interesting. We were, Martha and I were looking for homes for like a year, right? Just kind of like initially just curious, but then we were like, okay, let's get serious about thinking of buying a home. And I saw this one on Zillow, but it was like so expensive. It was absurd.

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And there's certain things that are under your control. And you just try to own the moment and make the most of it.

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And even though it felt like this massive breakdown, and it was in terms of what we wanted to create, I know that I could go into my wounded part of me that is frustrated that someone on my team didn't get the right cue or we messed up the timing or someone wasn't paying attention or I wasn't doing the right thing, whatever it is.

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I could have gone right into blame, frustration, anger, perfectionism, like it needs to look a certain way. embarrassment, shame, like, oh no, Esther's going to feel angry at me. I don't know. Whatever these younger parts of me that felt wounded. But quickly I was just like, how can we manage this the best way possible? And how can I serve people?

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And so I went back on stage and I said, I'm here to serve. And we did like a 10 minute Q and A until I got the cue that she was ready. And we did it all over again. It was fun. And Esther on stage when we were doing the interview, she didn't really know this was happening. She was in her green room.

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But on stage, she was like, what is a part of you that is, you know, evolved or that used to be something that would affect someone in a relationship with you that would be maybe unbearable or something? And I said, well, this all happened just now. And there was also like noise happening in the background behind stage was very distracting.

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Like, I don't know who it was, but people were like making noise and things were slamming while we're on stage during this interview. And I said, the old part of me would have probably stopped this interview in front of 4,000 plus people and like screamed at people in the back. They're like, guys, what are you doing? Shut up. You know, we're in the middle of this, like be quiet.

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Like five, eight years ago, the old me. I would have freaked out on people for like messing things up behind the scenes, whatever it is. The old part of me would have done that. But the new part of me is just like managing it in my mind and just saying, it's all going to be okay. You know, there's some disturbance. They're going to handle it. Don't try to control it all. Be as present as I can be.

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It's not exactly the way I want it to be, but be as present as I can be and serve. It just went back into service. How can I serve even though it's not perfect, even though it's uncomfortable, even though there's disturbances, even though it didn't flow the right way, how can I get back to service? And I felt myself very calm. I didn't feel like angry or frustrated.

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I was like annoyed, but I didn't go back into the wounded part of me that would freak out.

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And it feels, you know, again, in those moments, they're stressful moments that you're like, oh, I don't like this.

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I was like, this would be... Five years away, seven years away to be able to buy something like this with the price tag that it had on Zillow. But it had everything. I was like, I want a basketball court. I want the salt. I want everything, right? It had a movie theater. It had a basement, which doesn't happen in LA.

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I think that's really interesting what you said, because we're all human beings. We're going to have human moments. It's when someone is willing to take accountability. That's when you have more respect for that person and trust for that person.

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You know, and hopefully we can catch ourselves within five to 20 minutes or whatever. Listen, I had a freak out moment. That's right. I own it. I apologize. It's not about you guys. I was doing my own stuff. And when you can do that, you can mend those relationships faster.

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And I was like, if I'm going to buy a home, I want the home for the next 10, 15 years. I don't want to buy something that's almost what I want. I want to get what I want. Otherwise, I'll just stay in an apartment for the next few years and wait. And then this thing went off the market and I was like, oh, it's sold. Okay, I guess it wasn't for us. Six months later, it comes back, but way cheaper.

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That's true. It's so interesting you said that because it brought something up for me. I have so many memories from childhood in my teen years where kind of mentors and leaders that I was around, coaches, teachers, speakers when I went to events. I don't remember a lot of things they said, but I remember the energy, right? The energy they brought to me.

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I think Maya Angelou talks about like- You'll remember how they make you feel, yeah. Exactly. And there's a specific moment I've said this every time I met with Tony Robbins. My dad bought two tickets to one of his events for me and my mom when I was 16. And it was a big arena tour. It was like 15,000 people. It wasn't his main UPW. It was like a three-day multi-speaker thing that he used to do.

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He no longer does. And my dad got us seats. Imagine like a basketball arena, like a big NBA arena. But we're sitting kind of on the court with seats, like tons of rows in the court. And I'm sitting... you know, in the half court and the stage is over by the end of the arena. And he gets off stage and walks down and he's getting closer to me.

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And this is the first time I've ever been to a Tony Robbins event. I really even knew anything about him. 16 years old. He walks down and he stops like right next to me in the aisle. And I'm like looking up at Tony and it was like this massive presence. I still, to this day, I don't remember what he said, but like he spoke to the audience for maybe 60 seconds. And his energy was so magnetic.

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It was so in self. He was in the flow. That's right. He was in his creative force. The energy he was bringing, the connectedness he was to each person. It was like he was speaking to everyone. Look in your eyes, but to 15,000 people. Really landing his points. And I remember just thinking, I want to have that energy. I want to bring that energy to life in my sports at the time.

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I was a high school athlete. And I want to bring that level of service to people. And it's like a moment. It was like a memory is a moment that like, if that wouldn't have happened, maybe I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing. Totally. Maybe I wanted to be creating the way I'm creating to serve and find tools and strategies to help people. So, and interviewing people like yourself.

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It was still more than what the budget was, but it was like, I was like, oh, maybe there's a chance. And what if we negotiated and really tried to work through it? And we got it exactly the price that I was like willing to pay. So it all came together. I just had to be patient. I had to keep setting the intention. And also it was not settling for something that I didn't want.

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And I have that with coaches that was like moments where they like stopped us in the court and like said something, but it wasn't what they said. It's how they connected with us. That's right. Yeah.

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And I remember being like, wow, I really feel that presence, that trust, that respect of that individual, that they care, that they want us to improve, that they're trying to be there for what they're sacrificing. Teachers stepping up for me after class when I'm struggling and being their presence, their energy. Sure, they helped me how to read and write better, but it was like their caringness.

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Absolutely. Something I wanted that I was like, wow, that's really cool.

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I was just thinking about, yeah, and when we bring self-help and start to heal the parts of ourselves, we're not going to have that chaos in the world. If every person is doing this work and tending to the parts of us that feel traumatized or wounded, we don't need managers and firefighters to protect us. Nope. And we have the courage to communicate differently.

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We have the courage to love differently and to have compassion for someone else's point of view and say, okay, that's not what I agree with or believe with, but let's find a way where we can come together somehow, as opposed to let's fight and I'm going to win and you're going to lose. On all sides, right?

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In the book, again, we're talking about this book here, Self-Help. Make sure you guys grab a copy. In this book, you say, those terrifying moments in life are the catalyst for our greatest awakening and transformation. They are the moments that crack us open to the possibility of believing something new. They are the moments when we surrender enough to let self help.

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This self-impact training, which I don't know if you knew this, is sit. Oh, cool.

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Sit your ass down. It's essentially you need to sit down and surrender, it sounds like. Because a lot of people are in stress and chaos and they feel like they need to control and like take action on something. But sometimes we need to stop taking action if it's a wounded action and we start sitting, surrendering and going through these steps in the process.

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Yes. But I'm an impatient person by nature. So it's like, I want this thing now. I want it yesterday. Right. You're probably similar in a sense. We have to teach ourselves how to allow the patience to come into our lives.

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When someone is going through addiction or someone is addicted to something, you're addicted to drugs mostly or cocaine.

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Cocaine and alcohol. But when someone is addicted to drugs, alcohol, sex, porn, whatever it is, lying, stealing.

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Right, right. People, whatever it might be. But if someone is addicted to anything and has an extreme addiction to that thing, what... Is that saying about them or the parts of them?

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believe that it's all happening for you if you can even just put that thought out into the universe right now and say this all happened for me even if there was some horrible stuff that happened and if you can start to believe that this all happened for me and it's setting me up for an incredible next year and next five years of this decade then I'm telling you magic is going to flood into your life but it starts with the belief that

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How hard is it to end an extreme addiction?

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You do. Is there ever a time you get really frustrated where you're like, the thing that I've been intending and wanting and desiring is not even coming close to fruition?

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It's almost like you have to commit your whole life to being sober, clean, like breaking the addiction. You have to almost commit, I'm willing to do whatever it takes to set myself free. And that might be painful to look at the parts of you in other ways.

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Yeah, better than momentum. Speaking of the new year, we're, you know, we're in the new year. If people are watching or listening to this now, if you could give people, there's a lot of things that have happened in the last few years, a lot of chaos in the world for people.

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There's a lot of financial up and down, social up and down, relational up and down, health up and down, political up and down. But if someone is watching or listening right now and they're saying, I just really want to create a new baseline for myself to start manifesting in 2025 in a beautiful way, in a way that I've never done it before.

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And if they're watching this and they're thinking, what's the best way to manifest after all the crap that we've been through in life, them individually, or the crap that the world has been through, what's the best way that they can start manifesting in 2025 and beyond?

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That's it. That's the process. The book is self-help. This is your chance to change your life like every Bernstein. Make sure you guys pick up a few copies. I love this because it's simple. It is short. So for me, it feels very manageable when I'm reading it. It's like it's easy to read. So make sure you guys check this out.

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the four-step check-in process to transform the patterns that have held you back. And you mentioned this before that we always hear about these limiting beliefs that are blocking us, that are holding us back. But a lot of times people don't talk about these steps on how to break through those limiting beliefs. And I really love the approach to the IFS

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approach because it's looking within at the parts of us that are holding us back. And these parts of us are blocking us and limiting us to break free in what we want, whether it's creating a better relationship or manifesting something in our career or business, whatever it might be. And so those are the things that are limiting us.

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The things that have been trying to protect us for so long are actually helpful in certain ways, but not every way. So we need to have a new relationship from a place of

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capital self, higher self within us and start tending to those parts of us that have been holding us back, that have been limiting us and incorporating a new healthy whole relationship with them so that they can support and elevate all of you. And I think when you can follow Gabby's process and It is going to make it seem more relatable.

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It's going to make it feel more simplified and less confusing and daunting because some of these things in therapy can extreme can be extremely daunting to like just even sitting down with someone for an hour and hearing some terminology. It's like I'm exhausted already. Let me just get back to my life and being addicted because that's what I know. Yeah.

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And so allow yourself to start sitting, start checking in with yourself, start reflecting and following these four steps in this book. And it'll really help you transform your life. So Gabby, thank you so much for doing this. This is amazing. I'm excited for everyone to get this. And again, make sure you guys get a few copies, give it to friends. It's great to start off the year 2025.

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If you have anyone in your life, who maybe feels blocked in any way, give them a copy of the book so that they can be supported as well. Any final thoughts for you guys?

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Love you too. I appreciate it. Get the book. Follow Gabby everywhere online. You've got an amazing podcast as well. What else can we do to support you? How can we support you?

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Gabby, love you. Thanks for being here. Appreciate it. I love you.

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you wanna make it easier, you wanna make it flow, you wanna feel abundant, then make sure to go to Make Money Easy book. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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It is. It always seems like it's a go time, but specifically this time, it feels like it's even more with what's happening in the world. This book is really exciting. I'm excited to talk about it. It's called self-help. This is your chance to change your life. Make sure you guys pick this up, but in the forward Dick Schwartz, who's the founder of IFF.

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I F S internal family systems says that you illustrate the ability to show compassion and love to all parts of you, even the ones that have ruined your life and to do it in a very specific way that allows them to transform. How do we manifest something that we really want or desire in our life when there are parts of us that have completely traumatized and ruined our lives?

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Is there an ability to create the life we desire and want without healing or transforming traumas and pain that ruins us and cripples us still?

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So if we believe that we are not worthy of something, what are we saying about ourselves and what's possible for us?

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It starts with understanding how to believe. And I'm so excited that we get to kick off the new year with my good friend, Gabby Bernstein, who is a force of nature when it comes to manifesting your dreams. And she's going to be talking about the number one secret to manifesting today, which is going to be exactly what you need to hear going into 2025 to building out your dream year.

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It sounds like every human being is kind of schizophrenic or has multiple personality types.

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Yeah, of course. That impatience is a part, right?

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How many parts of us does each individual have?

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Hey guys, Lewis Howes here, and I'm so grateful for you today for coming and taking a look at the School of Greatness episode. We've got the inspiring Peter Diamandis. He is revealing his secrets to not only living longer, but also living healthier.

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So make sure to click the follow button on Apple Podcasts or Spotify right now, wherever you're listening to this, if this is your first time coming and someone recommended this to you. Send them a text, send them a message, give them a call, tell them you appreciate them for thinking about you. And I want you to think about one person in your life who could use this information.

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A lot of great people review this book. Dr. Mark Hyman was just on the show recently. And I think he said, I can't remember the stats, but I believe it's over 50%, at least of Americans are more obese than less obesity, right? There's more obesity than not than ever before.

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And I'm curious, you talk about mindset, environment, exercise, sugar, what you eat and sleep are kind of the key tenants within this book. But if someone doesn't have the mindset that they wanna get out of suffering or pain, or they wanna get out of obesity, or they wanna get out of the chronic illness that they have, because it's just too hard for them to think otherwise, or it's too much,

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It seems like so many different things that you need to pay attention to and stop doing. When a lot of people just feel sick, tired, a lack of energy, exhausted from work, in relationships that aren't really serving them and they just don't have all these put together. How do you get to the mindset first to say, I've tried these things before, it didn't work. I tried to eat better, it didn't work.

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I tried to sleep better, it didn't work. I tried the medicine and it's just getting bigger.

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There has to be a why. How does someone find that one?

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It's completely free. Send them a link over from Apple Podcast or Spotify, text it to them and say, hey, I'd love for us to go over this together and tell me what you thought about this episode with Lewis Howes and Peter Diamandis on The School of Greatness. Welcome back, everyone at the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Peter Diamandis in the house.

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This is interesting, because I haven't heard it this way and the way you're saying it right now. And I think this is really something that people need to fully pay attention to what you're saying, because... you're reframing, creating a number in your mind so that you can see how am I gonna extend it?

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Because if our father or grandfather died at a certain age, like you're saying, we're automatically or unconsciously saying, well, maybe I'll last a few years longer because I'm doing things a little differently.

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But you're saying we need to think of a new number. You do. So we have to look at- What if it seems unrealistic? Oh, my grandfather, my dad was 80 something or 85.

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Four or five days a week, depending. But I'm also doing sauna for 20, 30 minutes, three, four times a week. I'm doing all the different things that I can do.

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You're going to learn some incredible strategies on how to optimize your health now, but also some crazy things that are happening in science and research that if you can really optimize in the next five to 10 years, you may be able to extend your life decades.

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How do they track that? I mean, I don't even know that they're 200 years old. They have found... How do they know they're 200 years old?

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Good to see you, my friend. Good to see you, brother. Very excited. You've written a new book called The Longevity Guidebook, How to Slow, Stop, and Reverse Aging and Not Die from Something Stupid. And that part at the end is one of the most important things. As I continue my journey of trying to compete in sports at a high level, the biggest thing is preventing injury. Yes.

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What was your mindset like when you were in your 40s or mid-40s? When most people hit a midlife crisis, where were you mentally, emotionally around life and death?

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Because in order to play the game at a high level, you need to be healthy. And I think that's related to life as well. In order to play the game of life at a high level, we need to stay healthy. There's a few things in your book that have really stood out to me that I got to dive into, and I'm sure we'll talk about many other things. But I think a lot of people...

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If you don't think that you had a positive mindset, you were pessimistic, and you didn't have a why for a greater future, how old do you think you'd be able to get to?

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So you think you can extend 40 years based on positive mindset, a greater vision of the future. Oh yeah, and then doing the work. Of course, of course. Doing the work. But without the mind, I feel like the mindset and the vision for why is actually everything first. It is. And it makes it easier to do the work because if you did all work and you were negative, it's gonna counteract itself.

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As they age, their bodies shut down. So it's like when they're in their 70s, 80s, and 90s, they don't have the energy or the capacity to live a rich and full life. And what do you think are the main factors today that are causing people to live longer but not have the vitality to enjoy the length of their life?

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It's like that is part of this. I think this is interesting. This is, I think, I've had a lot of these, you know, a lot of the people in the back of your book, all the doctors, researchers, scientists on biohacking and health and longevity. I've had a lot of individuals on the show and heard a lot of information. But I think what a lot of them are missing that you talk about so brilliantly is that

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Kind of a basic thing, which is mindset around a positive future. Because most people just think, okay, what's the supplements? I know I need to sleep eight hours a night. And if I don't, there's no coming back from sleep dead. You can't overcome it. And you're creating chronic illness and disease when you sleep less than six hours a night consistently.

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If you're eating sugar, you're going to be obese. And it's inflammation, all these different things. And so I hear all that, right? I hear all that, how do you create the sleep sanctuary, you know, exercise, resistance training, no sugar, environment, all these different things, you hear it all, which you have all this backed by science as well in the book.

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But I think what you talk about differently than most people is just a positive belief. Most people don't believe in themselves. They live in self-doubt on accomplishing anything in their life. How do I get this job? How do I earn more money? How do I get out of a toxic relationship? How do I find a partner who's good for me?

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They lack the self-worth that it's possible to accomplish a lot of things, let alone a belief that they can live to 100 or 120. It just seems so hard to comprehend mentally and emotionally. And what I think you're talking about that's different than everyone else is first you need the belief that it's possible. You need to see other case studies or scenarios of people living a certain way.

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And you need to have a why that's attached to beliefs. And I think the third thing is we need to believe that we are worthy of living that long. Because most people don't believe they're worthy of existing now. Wow. That's what I think is different about this, because a lot of people lack self-worth. And if we lack the self-worth, we do things to cause harm.

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And the more harm compounds, the less life we live emotionally, spiritually, but also physically. And I think that's where a lot of this comes from. You have a, of course, you've got, you know, half a billion dollar funds every two years to move humanity forward. So you're just so expansive in your thinking because you've got to,

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Deploy this money to build a greater future and you're going to live into it in 60 years. Most people don't think that positively that they're worthy and deserving of existing now. They're depressed, anxious, overwhelmed, stressed, living in chaos, let alone how can I think beyond next week because I can't survive today.

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But you're also creating an immune system, your nervous system be heightened levels of anxiety.

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Yeah, the sequence secret. And I think this is the interesting part that, you know, I want people to know this because there's kind of five parts of this. Please, go ahead. And this is, you talk about how to build your GLP-1 naturally. And you also say that this secret, could actually boost post-menopausal GLP-1 levels by 38%. And that's kind of the Ozempic drug is known for having GLP-1 levels.

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So you're kind of a victim to the drug forever.

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And so there's a way to increase this GLP-1 naturally after you eat, right? And the first thing you talk about is the sequence secret, which is how you eat fiber, protein, then carbs, that sequence first. And I think it's interesting you say that. I think we've lost, the ability to sit down without the TV on.

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Most people have lost this ability to sit down without phone or TV consumption and actually take a deep breath. You know, growing up, my dad used to do a prayer before.

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And we'd sit there and hold hands. Yes, exactly. And we'd actually connect with each other. And do gratitude or do prayer.

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Now we eat. So even if you're rushing around, we sit and we take 30 seconds. You calm your nervous system down. Then we not just stuff it in really quick, which I've been, you know, tend to do a lot. So my fiance Martha's always, we put the food down and she will energetically pray over the food and say, thank you so much and put good energy into the food with her hands hovering over it.

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and it's just a moment, it may feel unnatural, because you're like, I'm hungry, I want to eat this now. That little habit change will add to the sequence secret of helping you boost that metabolism faster, increase that GLP-1 faster with these little tweaks. Chewing your food.

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You talk about yerba mate magic. How powerful is yerba mate over like a coffee or some other? Well, I think I've got a chart there, which- It's page 37 for you, yeah. This is 200 milligrams of, I don't know how you say this, Yeramine? Yes. Tested against a placebo. So this is with yerba mate versus a placebo.

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So you eat the same amount of calories, same amount of food.

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I mean, it's a smart business move, I guess, as a restaurant. How do I get more sales?

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But how do you make these things into habits? That's what you mean. Because if you have to think about it all the time, it's going to be exhausting.

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Yeah. Well, I just need to go to the gym right away.

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Yeah. What is the thing you still get to unlock within yourself that you're still holding on to? Is there anything that you're holding on to that's a negative identity or something that's still a crutch that's the hardest thing for you to break through on? A routine, a habit, a... A non-negotiable?

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Or something that's still holding you back from like, ah, I still eat that ice cream once a week or whatever.

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And you've got to give something else up to add something to that time. Yeah. So meditation and stretching. Yeah. In page 50 of your book, you say there's a direct relationship between how well you sleep and how long you live.

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So it's not about the length of sleep. It's also the quality of sleep itself.

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If you can do a few of these things over the next five to 10 years, he also shares how to increase your natural levels of GLP one by up to 38% just in the way you eat your foods. It's extremely powerful This man takes 75 supplements. He is doing all the rituals and routines to try to increase his health and his lifespan. And I don't want you to get overwhelmed by all the things he's talking about.

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We also only lived 30 years. You also lived 30 years.

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How much does... Emotional trauma hold us back from living longer.

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I think... Kind of these stored traumatic wounds from our past, like if we're holding on to these traumatic events and reliving them.

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I'll get the tequila going and hit the parties. Exactly. I've heard you once say that you take 75 supplements and pills a day to support your health and optimization for longevity. We don't need to go into all of those, but if you were only allowed to take five supplements a day, what would those be?

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What is something that people, if they have a little bit of extra money, they want to invest in their health to understand their biomarkers better? What is the best tools out there to get an accurate understanding of your blood work or a DEXA scan? What are the things that everyday people can do that don't have extreme amount of wealth to do the big tests? Yeah.

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What should they be doing once a year at minimum?

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I'm wearing a continuous glucose monitor right here. So you're always wearing that? I'm always wearing it. I still haven't gotten one of those yet. I keep hearing about it. I keep wanting to try it.

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Yes. I mean, what are the main factors that are causing us to die younger? It seems like I saw a stat or a study that the current life expectancy in the U.S. in 2024 is 79.25 years. And that's a 0.18 increase from 2023 from macro trends.

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It's crazy. So for those who are serious about it, I think Fountain of Life, make sure you guys check that out. You've offered me like a year or two to go through it. I'm going to take you up on it at some point. I'm going to take you up on it at some point. Bring your fiance.

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Now's the time. What does it take, like a day to do all the testing? Yeah, under a day. Okay, cool.

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Well, for those that are interested in that, go to fountainlife.com. If you don't have that type of money yet, there's a lot of free things that you can do right now, like you talked about. All of them in the longevity guidebook, how to slow stop and reverse aging and not die from something stupid. So make sure you guys get a copy or two and give it to a friend.

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It's got a whole chapter on happiness hormones and how you can increase your happiness hormones. Because again, most of this is about mindset and being in a gratitude, happiness state, because that's going to help you extend your life. You got your list of supplements in here. You got everything in here on how to optimize it.

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This is powerful. I've got one final question for you, but I want people to get the book, Longevity Guidebook. Make sure you guys check it out. Share this with a friend. Let's say you, you know, I believe you're gonna make it to 120 if you believe it to be true. Yeah. With everything that's coming. Let's say you are 120.

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And maybe you get to extend it a few more years. Yeah. Let's say you made 120. What's the thing you'll be most proud of looking back at 63 right now that you did for yourself to get to 120?

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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If someone eliminated sugar from their diet, or 95% of it, let's say, How much longer do you think they could live without doing something stupid? Do you think it can extend your life if you eliminate sugar?

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How much do you lean into on the spiritual side of your health and life? Because there's so much science and AI and tech and biohacking and doing everything perfectly in terms of the right foods, the right sleep, the right supplements. Where does spirituality and the divinity of life come in the future of your health and your lifespan?

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He does a ton of research on all of this stuff. I want you to find one or two things that you can implement today to feel better, to live a happier, healthier life. And he really dives into something that most of these experts don't cover. Of course, a lot of people cover environment. They cover exercise, cutting out sugar, what foods to eat, how to sleep.

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I'm trying to remember the researcher. I think it was Dr. Ellen Langer, I think, who did a study. Hopefully I'm not making this up on the person, but... I think she did a study where she had people go back into the nostalgia of their life, like back to the 60s or the 50s.

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But there's something about the mindset of believing you are worthy of living a healthy and long life that I don't hear anyone else talking about. And we dive into this today. towards around the middle of this interview, and I think it's the most important thing to listen to.

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And they lived in a home with like the music from the 50s, the music from the 60s, the artwork from that time, like the food, all of it was like the clothes, they wore the clothes from that decade of their teen years. And they started to see themselves get healthier, start to heal certain things, have more energy and almost reverse time by living back in time.

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So into a more positive, optimistic, youthful.

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So you just had like a pain in your back and you were just kind of like sore for a while?

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Mmm, and the person was like tingling numbness then it became pain. Yes within like weeks months years It within a year Uh-huh and then it and then it kept going downward after that and then the pain is just like you start slouching You start like you don't want to walk you're stiff kind of all those symptoms that come with it. Yeah, it was nerve pain uh-huh because

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That doesn't mean that there's not things to clean up, that we don't still have to cleanse things in our internal world or in our external world. I'm going through transitions. I just moved offices. There's a lot of junk.

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So is the pain that you had in your body or the condition you had in your body, the nerve pain, the tumor, do you think that was caused from the way you were thinking your entire life or was that just some freak thing that happened over time based on environment or conditions or chance?

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20. And so for, you know, 20 plus years, you're in pain, but you're also building businesses, you're making money, you're grinding 60, 80 hours a week. Hyper successful. Yeah, you're like, accomplish, accomplish, win, achieve. Ignore, ignore. Yeah, yeah, and just stuff the pain, keep thriving so I can feel some type of validation or...

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in the office that we have to get rid of and clean up and organize and it's not all perfect right now it's not all smooth there's a lot of hurry up and wait and sometimes it's just nice when there are clouds because it makes me reflect and say okay

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Yeah, I think a lot of people can relate to that. If you can, feel free to leave a comment below and let me know how that shows up in your life or where you've been trapped emotionally or physically by putting all your attention in one area where good things happen and trying to stuff or hide the other areas that you've been afraid of or ashamed of or whatever you don't feel good enough.

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So when you started learning hypnotherapy and really diving into it deeper, What was the thing that was a big aha moment for you that gave you more healing and freedom in your body and in your mind?

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If someone has never experienced hypnosis or therapeutic hypnosis to support their minds and their body get into an energetic state of peace and calm and quieting the critical mind into the more, I guess, positive mind or into a more way of being that serves the mind and body for expansion and abundance,

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I've done a lot of things right now, it's time to reflect and cleanse, clean up, and start organizing my life internally, so that my environment externally matches. And if you feel like something's off right now, I just want to let you know that it's all going to be good. And I want you to start reflecting more. breathing more, and being more.

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And if someone wanted to tap into a method or a mantra or a process that would allow them to do this for a minute a day of self-hypnosis and they wanted to simplify it, what would that 30-second, one-minute self-hypnosis technique look like for them?

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Yeah. Yeah, the first three I am's that I thought of are I am loved, I am whole, I am peace. Yeah. Yeah.

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Because the critical mind keeps us in what type of state if we're always in criticizing, not evaluating.

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A lot of times we're trying to do do do to get the results we want in life. And we're trying to just act, act, act, which there's a season for that. But if you're not taking moments every day to be to reflect, to breathe, then it can feel like burnout is just overwhelming you and you could feel exhausted, your nervous system is going to feel drained. And

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And the first thing that came to mind is I'm enough, but I am love, I am joy, I am abundance, I am expansion, all these things here.

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But if we're in the critical mind consistently throughout the day or for many hours, it's going to put us into a more state of stress, it sounds like, or a more state of concern, or I don't know if lack is the right word, but less of an abundant, joyful, playful state. 100%.

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It's interesting because when I think back on my childhood, I used to think internally or say to myself internally and say externally a lot of I am negative sentences. I am horrible student, I'm bad, I'm this, I'm dumb, I'm stupid, whatever it might be. I'm not good enough, all those different things. Or I'm slow, I'm a slow learner, or I can't do that, or whatever this is.

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These, I guess you'd say spells or, you know. Mantras. Yeah, mantras that I would say, either cautiously or unconsciously, I was then creating. So what you're saying, what you're thinking, you're starting to create. It doesn't mean it's who you are, but it's what you're manifesting.

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And today's episode is all about how to really develop the powerful insights on breaking free from the mind traps in our life, like the negativity bias and the confirmation bias that holds us back from peace and abundance. Because you are abundant. You are peace. You are love. And sometimes we need the clouds to cleanse, to reflect, to remind us

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What would you say then is the difference between the law of attraction versus the law of assumption?

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Let us say, you know, I really struggled in school, right? And all of my confirmations proved that I struggled in school based on the test results, based on how long it took for me to study every single night and still not understand the concepts all through, you know, kindergarten until college. And so let's say that all I saw was evidence that I was a slow learner and I struggled in school.

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It was an assumption, right? It was an assumption, but I was like, but it might be true. You know, there's some truth to it because of the results I'm getting as well. How do I not lie to myself and say, actually, I'm a great learner and this is easy for me.

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How do I start to reprogram myself without lying based on evidence that's shown actually you haven't been good at this or you have been in bad relationship after relationship or all these guys did leave you or these girls did screw you over or whatever it is.

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that we are out of alignment in some places or that some things just need cleaning up. You know, my office is a little messy right now and it's taking the time, taking a couple hours every week to organize, to clean, to process things, to integrate the new space.

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I really think this is gonna help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness. It's a beautiful day right now to be with you, sharing this moment with you. And I'm so blessed and grateful that you're listening to this right now.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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and wherever you're at in your life whatever you're going through if it's a sunny day if it's a cold day or cloudy day i want you to pause reflect and be grateful i want you to be grateful for where you're at i want you to be grateful for getting yourself to this moment getting yourself to this space it doesn't mean it's a perfect space it doesn't mean it's doesn't have opportunity for growth but sometimes we just need to pause to reflect

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And I want to acknowledge you for being here today. And I'm so grateful for you. I'm grateful for you being a part of this journey with me on the School of Greatness. I'm grateful for you listening and showing up on a consistent basis for yourself. I'm grateful for you growing on this journey of life the way that I'm trying to constantly grow myself.

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And I feel like the moment I stop learning is the moment I start to slowly fade off. And I feel more frustrated at life. I'm always going to be learning. And I appreciate you being here on the journey with me today.

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what's going on in their lives or what they're consuming the content or they're judging and assessing whether they're in criticism mode or they're in envy mode or they're in self-loathing mode. So if someone is feeling stressed and anxious consistently, what's a way that they can raise their frequency to start to feel better on a daily basis?

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We've got a powerful episode with Jim Curtis, who's going to be talking about the practical techniques for a simple self-hypnosis that anyone can use daily to quiet the critical mind program and start building positive beliefs so that you can access deeper states of consciousness where true healing becomes possible. I'm so excited for this episode. I hope you enjoy it.

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49. So almost three decades of... pain or a challenge that you've been working to overcome and get back into wholeness and healing, it sounds like, right? Yeah. And it's a lot of pain. Like every day, I'm assuming you woke up with pain and you struggled to walk and you had doubts or challenges, at least in the first couple of decades, it sounds like.

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In the last 10 years, it sounds like you've really transformed your thinking and your energy and you started to really heal and create wholeness from the inside out, right? Yeah. But that's hard when you have chronic pain like that, specifically in your back. It feels like debilitating, right? It just feels like you can only, you're limited to what you can do.

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Physically, emotionally, you can only move at a certain speed. It feels limiting, right? Would you take it back?

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Thank you for being on the journey. And let's go ahead and dive in. Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Jim Curtis in the house, who is a master hypnotherapist, NLP trainer, and coach to many. Thanks so much for being here. I'm so happy to be here. Very excited about this.

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Because in a sense, I mean, it's your mind interpreting the pain of the body. Isn't that correct? Like the pain is really just the mind or the brain sending a signal of like, oh, there is pain in this joint or this muscle or this bone area, whatever it might be, this part of your body. It's the mind that's perceiving that, correct? Yeah.

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And so if you can calm the minds and almost get out of your body or above your body or Through that pain with calm mind, you almost don't feel the pain anymore.

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I'm already feeling the energy of our superpowers combining to really how we can be of service to the maximum amount of people watching and listening right now. And there's something we were talking about beforehand that I really liked that I wanted to ask you about first, and it's mind traps. The world is, a lot of people in the world are suffering.

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But again, a lot of people live in pain and then they stress and have anxiety around having the pain and trying to find solutions to get out of it, which causes more stress or more sense of control or consuming energy around what do I do to get out of this or I'm not good enough or I'm not lovable enough. So how do we tell the difference between our intuition and our anxiety speaking to us?

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Have you ever done it? Yeah, of course. It's so interesting you say that because I remember my senior year playing college football. The second game of the season, My dad left to go on a vacation with his girlfriend at the time. My parents were divorced many years before that. And he got into a car accident that left him in a coma for almost three months. Oh my God. In New Zealand.

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So I'm in Ohio, in Columbus, Ohio. I'm 22, I'm a senior, and he gets into this car accident. And I get a call at like 10 or 11 o'clock a night before a game on Saturday morning. So Friday night before the game. And we don't know if my dad is alive or dead. We just know like he was in an accident, he's in a coma, and it's all the way on the other side of the world. This was in 2005.

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A lot of people are suffering financially, physically, emotionally, and in relationships. And you mentioned something really interesting that I thought might help people to get started with. And it's one, the mind traps that people are stuck in. So I wanna ask you about what are mind traps and how people can get out of them to create more abundance and peace and freedom in their lives.

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And so it was a lot of uncertainty and anxiety. The next day, I'm like, do I play in this game? Do I get on a plane and go to New Zealand right now, which is gonna take 24 hours to get there? What do I do? Is my dad alive? Is he dead? It was just this uncertainty. And it was a lot of stress getting, going to that game. The second to last play of the game, I break three ribs.

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We lose the game in the last minute. I break three ribs and I feel like, oh, my season's over. I don't know if my dad's alive or dead right now. And this is really sad. All of this is sad. Because it was my dream to play professionally and I broke three ribs. And I'd broken the same three ribs the year before in a football game.

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So I was out for the whole season the year before recovering from these broken ribs. And it took me like months to recover. And the same three broke again. Someone hit me from the side as I caught a ball and speared me. and I could hear their cracks. And so I'm just, all this pain and stress and anxiety and overwhelm is in my mind right now of like, my season is over again.

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I don't know if my dad is alive or dead. What am I gonna do? And my sisters ended up going to New Zealand. I stayed back because this pain was like throbbing. And to get on a flight for 24 hours with like broken ribs, I was like, I need to wait anyways if I'm gonna do this. So I stayed back and they got there and he's in a coma for this first week while I'm in pain. And I just made a decision.

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I go, I'm going to heal my body. I'm going to come back and I'm going to play the rest of this season, whatever it takes. And I'm going to do it in service of my father. And energetically, I'm gonna send him love and inspiration while he's in a coma. I get chills thinking about it. Because within two weeks, I heal my ribs. It's kind of like this miraculous thing.

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Now, I put a pad over it, so I'm not just like, I keep hitting it over and over. I put a pad over it, but I'm able to run, jump, catch everything, move how I need to. And I'd get back on the field, I missed two games, and I'd come back. And every day in practice and every game, I would put tape around my wrists and on my cleats and just put, For Dad, and I'd put his name.

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So I was playing for something bigger than myself. I was playing to send energy so that he would heal or recover or get out of this coma. And by playing for something bigger than me, I felt like it made me heal faster. It made me stronger. And the crazy thing, a Thanksgiving week, he woke up. So a couple months later, he woke up.

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Now, he had a very long, he never fully recovered, and he struggled for 17 years after that until he passed. But it was a powerful way to think beyond the pain and beyond the brokenness physically. or spiritually that I was experiencing with my father, where I wasn't sure if he was going to live or not.

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And it gave me a sense of energy to get out of myself, something greater than the sadness I was facing, the anxiety, the worry that I was facing, the loss that I might be facing. And it allowed me to put my energy and attention towards healing and sending love.

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through the journey of how I'm going to show up every single day, how I'm going to practice with love and joy, how I'm going to come back and do my best to help the team win. And I had the best season of my life, missing two games with three broken ribs. Wow. That gave me chills. Yeah. It was powerful. But I could have easily gone into, why did this happen to me? My dream is over.

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Part two of this question, is how can we use directives versus questions to serve us in our life better? So what are the mind traps that hold us back from peace and abundance? And how can we use directives over questions to set us free?

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All these things are over. And it did do that for a few days until I made a decision. And a lot of it was just directing myself, like you said, and creating new mantras, new beliefs and reprogramming. No, I am going to create a healing for myself. I am going to show up every single day in appreciation and gratitude, even though I may have lost my dad. And I'm going to do the best that I can do.

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And it was a powerful two, three month journey while there was so much uncertainty with if he was going to live or die and if I could play, but it was a powerful for me for that season of life when I was 22, just trying to figure out what to do with my life at that time.

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Mm-hmm. One of the things that I like around having a mission and a vision, like you said there, is creating a season of life within that mission and vision. I had a three month window. It was a season. It wasn't like, okay, the next 10 years I have to do this thing. It was, this season is over in three months. What can I do within this season? What is my mission right now?

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To heal, to recover, to be the best I can in practice every day, to play my best in the games, and finish this season the best I can within the next three months. I think sometimes people... I'm not saying you always need a timeline of things, but I think having a season of life knowing this is what I'm up to right now.

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It may not be forever, but this is what I'm creating for this year, this six months, this month, to get me out of this rut and into this process. Achievable. Yeah, something in a season timeline. I got a couple final questions for you, Jerry. One of them is, what's the difference between creating results by focusing on the outcome you want versus the outcomes you don't want?

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Yeah, you struggle walking some days, but you were skipping out of there. You're like, I'm jumping out of it.

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What are your favorite affirmations for abundance then that people can say to themselves every single day?

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You knew how to do it. Yeah, you're resourceful. You're this, you're that. You got this job. You did this thing when you showed up this way. So keep doing more of that. Exactly right. You've got great content on social media. Jim Curtis won, I believe it is, right? On Instagram. Jim Curtis won. Jim Curtis won everywhere.

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And there was a video you talked about, which are the top four signs someone is living in a high vibrational state. Can you share what those four signs are?

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caught up in your aura they're like staring at you yeah if it was an adult it'd be a creep but since it's a cute baby you're like i keep staring for like five minutes into my soul yeah and you're staring back yeah those are some really easy ways to tell that if it was an adult you'd be in jail you know but if the baby is different yeah yeah yeah yeah those are some ways just to show that like you have a higher frequency that you're off you're resonating at a higher frequency

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So if animals like you, friends, family ask for your counsel, babies stare at you.

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Yeah. That's good. And why do you think animals and babies or people can intuitively sense when someone is in a high energy state Like, what is that? What is that energy, that aura, that essence? Is it a belief that someone is living within? Is it a calm, is it a relaxed state? Is it, you know, can you trick them?

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Can you trick animals or babies to like, hey, I'm this charismatic human, but really be negative inside?

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It's so interesting because I feel like I've always, you know, I struggled with not feeling like I had the smarts or the skills from school to be useful for people in life because I was in the bottom of my class all through school. So I had this belief like, ah, I'm not good in school. Can I be useful in life?

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But as I started to play sports and I started to learn human dynamics of teamwork, of being coachable, of coaching others, of just like in a dynamic of we're setting up for a goal, we're practicing, we're going through challenges and overcoming them together and we're accomplishing goals or we're failing at them, but we're learning lessons together and kind of enduring this season of sports.

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I started to understand people better. And I said, oh, okay, maybe I don't have skills or smarts here from school subjects and like memorizing stuff for tests, but when it comes to sports and mobilizing a goal and trying to accomplish that within groups of people, I can excel. And I'm actually really good. And I'm very talented in this side of life.

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But I remember going into, you know, after my sports, career was over and I was like, how do I make money? Like, and everyone's asking about your resume and about the college degree and like, what was your GPA? This was back in like 2007, eight. I was like, uh, I can't show them any of those things cause I didn't have any skills from that world. Right.

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But I don't know if this sports stuff would translate into a career or business. So I was really concerned about it. I was like, will I ever make money? I have no idea. Early on, I started attending these kind of like social media meetups. And I just went in there with like curiosity and joy. And so I was just going in for fun. I was meeting people, I was asking questions.

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I was like, man, what you're doing is so cool over here. And I was just curious the whole time. And by doing that and asking questions and kind of bringing that energy, People just wanted to help me.

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And so I always started to, so I started to go to a lot of events and I started to build relationships and I just brought energy and joy and positivity to these events, knowing that I couldn't bring like some skill from a work career because I didn't have a work career, but I had energy. I had passion. I had curiosity.

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I had like a sense of like wonder and love for what people were doing and what they overcame. And I always found that people just wanted me to like, they wanted to invite me to the next thing. And they wanted to introduce me to this person. And that led to something. Because you made them feel in a different way. They don't care what you know. It's how you feel. It's it. It's it.

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And so I just really leaned into that. And anytime I felt self-cautious, like, man, I don't, I have nothing to offer these individuals. Like everyone here is smarter than me, way more talented. I was like, but when I enter this room, I can...

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i can stand up a little taller i can smile and i can ask questions and be curious and i can bring joy to what people are talking about and i felt like that was one of the greatest skills that i brought for many years and probably still bring because i still don't feel like i'm the smartest person ever in any room but i can bring positive energy and joy and curiosity

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And I think people are craving that. So you got to look at what are the resources you can bring to a situation that raises your frequency and raises the energy in any room to be of service to those individuals.

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Survival. Survival. Because I was like, you know, the housing market crashed and the economy was down at this time. And I was like, how do I get the job? I don't know. I was living on my sister's couch for a year and a half.

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I think because I didn't have the skill from school. I didn't have like a, you know, a high GPA or like skills. from school. So it was survival. It was like, how do I get into a room? How do I get a seat at the table? How do I meet these people? Let me show up at the event and let me ask questions because I can't say something like I know what I'm talking about. So I just,

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didn't speak about anything I knew. I just asked questions and said, what do you know? And guess what? People like to be asked questions. They love it. They love it. And they were like, I would ask questions. I wouldn't say anything about myself. And at the end of the night, people were like, this is the most interesting guy in the room. And no one knew anything about me. Right. Yeah.

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But I was just like fascinated with people. I was like, man, how did you do this? Man, tell me more. This is incredible. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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And in Los Angeles, at the recording of this right now, it's cloudy. It's been raining over the last couple nights. It's cloudy during the day the last couple days. And sometimes we go through seasons where the weather is bad, literally, in life, but also our life is going through bad weather where it just feels a little gloomy. It feels a little cloudy.

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What's a big confirmation bias that most people in the world today are stuck in and that's holding them back around money or relationships?

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You find people that continue to confirm that you're not lovable.

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Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. You have to reprogram yourself that boring is not boring. Right. It's like it's not boring if there's if it's healthy.

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You know, just because it's up and down, hot and cold doesn't mean it's good for you.

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Yeah. Uncertainty. Yeah. You needed your nervous system to be completely out of whack, unhealthy, for you to feel like this is love.

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Well, the thing with that also is like you can actually expand. You can create true abundance from that place. When you're in constant hot, cold, like you said, or your nervous system is on edge constantly because you don't know what the person's going to do or if they're going to give you the silent treatment or if they're going to be love bombing you all day or if you're somewhere in between.

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You can't expand from that place. For two decades, I was in different relationships where it just seemed chaotic in a lot of them. And I'm not blaming the other people. It's like I was part of the problem too. But it wasn't until I was able to start healing my nervous system to create more stability in a relationship where I felt like I was able to expand everything around me

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because internally I was expanding and healing. And I think a lot of people get stuck in not healing their body, their mind, their nervous system around their programming, like you said. and your programming equals your reality. You're just gonna stay stuck in that loop that's gonna keep you feeling trapped, suffering, like why isn't this working in that type of relationship?

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So I like that you said that. That's another mind trap. That's another one of the mind traps. So we got negativity bias, we got confirmation bias,

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It feels a little like not as so much sunshine in our internal world. And sometimes the external world can reflect that for us. But whenever I see the clouds, I actually feel peace. And I know that it's cleansing something. It's creating awareness for me. Okay, where is there in my life and my internal world that I get to clean up? And it also makes me reflect on all the growth I've had.

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Let me just keep suffering and like in pain in this process, trying to make it work.

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Wow. Yeah. And you just stay stuck in that. Now what's, I mean, as a master hypnotist, hypnotherapist. Yeah. What have you learned over the last few years that you realize you were in the backfire effect for yourself for a long time? You were believing something to be true.

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You were programming yourself that this was a true way of being that in the last few years you had to wake up and question and start seeing it differently.

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And what was the pain or the condition that you had that was holding you down physically?

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We just had the first quarter of the year. You know, I got married. I had a beautiful celebration with friends and family. We had a book come out, Make Money Easy, that hit the New York Times bestseller list. We got to do a tour and see so many people around the country. And there's so much good that's happening.

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Did you have a physical injury or an accident that caused this, or was it just over time this manifested?

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Hey guys, welcome back to another episode. My name is Lewis Howes, and I'm so excited that you're here because we have a powerful episode with world-renowned physician Dr. Rangan Chatterjee, who after 23 years of medical practice has uncovered the deep connection between emotional well-being and physical health. And for years, people have struggled trying to understand the how to heal themselves.

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When you talk about happiness, though, you say contentment, control and alignment. What does control mean with happiness?

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Here's someone who is trained as a medical doctor who has now learned how emotions, thoughts, habits, your environment, your relationships, how those are impacting symptoms in the body, and how you can heal all these different things. He's gonna give us a unique perspective on trusting yourself, managing your stress, and the signs of forgiveness that provides a fresh approach

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And if people are trying to change their life, there's a stat out there that says studies show that 88% of people who set New Year's resolutions fail within the first couple of weeks. I would probably relate that to anyone setting any goal at any time in life. It's like, okay, I'm going to lose the weight. I'm going to start doing this daily. I'm going to do whatever.

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A lot of people seem to fail pretty quickly after they realize how hard it is to make lasting change. And you're talking about the habits of lasting change. It just seems like it's so hard to reinvent yourself from an old way of being that is doing things for years and all of a sudden change it into becoming someone new.

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There's a quote you have that says, the reason most people are unable to make changes that last for good is because they never actually address the underlying reasons behind their habits in the first place. This means that any changes they try and make are ultimately in conflict with the state of their lives and the person they believe themselves to be.

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And as a medical doctor for 23 years, someone who studied this for a long time, I'm assuming the goal of a doctor is to get to the root cause, or some doctors, is to find the root cause. How did you learn to apply that to life, to making lasting change, not just towards a disease or medical condition that people were having? And how can people do that in life?

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to make this your best year yet. I'm so excited for you to dive into this episode. If this is your first time here, please follow us on Apple podcast, follow us on Spotify, just click that follow button right now. If someone sent you this episode, make sure to follow and share this with one or two friends that you want to see improve the quality of their health in a positive way this year.

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But I quickly realized. When did you realize that that's not the best way to go about healing?

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So it's a quick, tell me why you're feeling, let me assess, open up your tongue and say, ah, or whatever. Boom, give something, walk out. Okay, you have this, here's antibiotic, here's this drug, here's whatever.

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And you probably didn't go into medicine to live that life. You probably said, I want to help people heal.

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Go ahead and copy and paste the link. share it, text it to a few friends, post it on social media and make sure to tag me at Lewis Howes as well. Because I want to stay connected with you throughout this entire year on this journey of personal growth and living your best life because you deserve to live a healthier, happier life. And we are here to bring you the top experts in the world.

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How many... physical symptoms or diseases do you think arise from relationship and lifestyle challenges, not nutrition related, but more relationship deficiencies.

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I'm so grateful that you're here. I am excited about what is to come this month, building into 2025. And again, it is my intention to give you the best information possible and to ask the questions that most people are unwilling to ask. And that's what we're here on the School of Greatness to do. Again, I'm so grateful for you. Make sure to follow the show on Instagram. Apple, on Spotify.

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And when you were treating patients, how much would you say were people's symptoms related to

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relationship conflicts in their life, whether it be with their parents or their boss or a friend or whatever it might be, a family member or something, how much of it was once they started to have the courage to speak up or once they were able to break themselves free of a situation in a relationship or create a boundary in their life or whatever it might be, create new alignment with that person.

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How much of the patients you saw had emotional pain that flared up in the symptoms on their body that once they started to make the emotional changes in the boundaries, the alignment in relationships, those symptoms went away? So many.

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Make sure to share this with one friend if you can. And I'm so grateful that you're here. So without further ado, let's dive into this episode with the one and only Dr. Rangan Chatterjee. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. We have the inspiring Dr. Rangan Chatterjee in the house. My man, so good to see you. And welcome back to the show. Good to see you, Lewis.

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I'm excited to come back on. New studio. New studio. New life. And that's what we're talking about today, which is around your book, Make Changes That Last. Nine simple ways to break free from the habits that hold you back from a life that really people have been struggling from or dealing with some type of blockage in their life.

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I didn't have to give her any drugs. She didn't have to change her diet. She didn't have to... It was just an internal reflection and either opening her mind or opening her heart to the ability to forgive.

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And as we are shooting this and starting out into a brand new year, 2025, there's a lot of things in the last half decade that have been blocking people. And you have been a medical doctor for 23 years. You're one of the most well-known, famous medical doctors in the UK. You've got a massive show.

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And they've struggled trying to understand how medicine can heal their emotions when it's only been treating symptoms in the body. And we're starting to learn how emotions, how stress, how anxiety, how thoughts are also impacting the body. And as a physician for many years, Dr. Rangan Chatterjee reveals

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Yeah, and going back to one of the first things you talked about, learning how to trust yourself, like get the wisdom and the knowledge and learn from experts and science and research and examples. But at the end of the day, you got to listen to what you need based on the experts or what's available out there.

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You've got to take action on what your intuition is telling you or what your body or your mind, your heart is telling you. And I don't think you can fully trust yourself unless you learn to forgive yourself.

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Yeah. Yeah. I had Dr. Romney on. I don't know if you know Dr. Romney.

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And she says, maybe you don't forgive. Like the narcissist who's like just taken years of your life. Right. And she's like, it gives me peace not to forgive. And that was the first time I'd heard that. And maybe there's something to forgiving when you feel ready and not forcing forgiveness. For sure.

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You've treated people for a long time, but you just stopped your practice, which you just told me, after 23 years. Yeah. What have you noticed in 23 years of being a medical doctor and now leaving the medical world and transcending by doing different strategies to set yourself free to create peace?

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If you're feeling frustrated or maybe it's helping you actually create a boundary for that season of life, okay? And however you need to forgive in your mind or whatever that looks like. But for her, forgiveness of someone who's kind of taken a lot of years from her life She said, maybe you don't forgive in her mind.

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Let me ask you this question. As a medical doctor, And a researcher, what is the science of forgiveness? What actually happens to the mind, the heart, and the body when you forgive? What is that crossover of like, I have a grudge on myself or someone else, and then I choose in a moment and it integrates in my body and I forgive?

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What have you noticed in the last 23 years that's been holding people back really over this last half a decade? And...

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It sounds like you can't, you don't want to stuff the emotions, but you don't want to stay in the emotions. You got to learn to let it out in some healthy, conscious way. Hopefully not hurting someone else in the process of your anger or resentment or frustration or whatever it might be. But you can't stay there also. So you can't spiritually bypass the emotion and just say, that didn't affect me.

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If it did, let it out and don't stay there. You don't keep reliving the trauma for years to come.

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I'm thinking John McElroy, the tennis player.

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Yeah. And I mean, the difference is freedom. It's peace. I think you're a prisoner of the past. when you don't forgive. And there's, there's, there's a reward for that as well. Like you get to be righteous, you get to be justice, you get to be right and then wrong, you get to be, you get validation from people having sympathy for you and understanding and understanding how something is not okay.

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And that was horrible with that person did and all these different things you get rewards. But I just feel like the reward of forgiveness and setting yourself free is far greater than any other reward you could get by holding your grudge.

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And holding a grudge and being angry at someone or an event or the government or the world or the weather, whatever, for ruining something in your life or hurting something in your life or causing a disruption in your life and however drastic or small it might be, holding a grudge onto that. That's a cost. There's a big cost. There's a big price you'll pay. There's a big price you'll pay.

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Yeah. Is it better to be right or be happy?

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It sounds to me like a lot of these habits you're talking about, when people can implement them, they will have less stress in their life. And what I'm hearing you say, correct me if I'm wrong, is that chronic stress is related to 70, 80% of most disease.

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And so if that's the case, if we can... learn to navigate stress with more ease and not let it consume us chronically. Maybe it's going to come, but then only a little bit a day, not every minute of the day for years. What are the top ways then to

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how 80 to 90% of what doctors see is related to stress and how unresolved emotional stress actually manifests as physical symptoms and illness in the body. So if you're listening to this right now and you've been thinking to yourself, I'm not crazy. I feel like this anxiety with my relationship, this stress around my career or my working situation,

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Like some people... Like taking your cat's paw and rubbing it on you?

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No, it's calming. When my cat, I was making the joke of like taking my cat's paw and rubbing it on my skin as if she was petting me and the cat. But actually when my cat lays on my chest and she purrs, it's so calming for my nervous system. It's just like, and she just kind of smiles at you a little bit and just rubbing her and almost giving her peace. She's purring into you. I don't know.

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It's just like a very calming thing. It's almost meditative. It is. When you're stroking someone, you know, on their arm or you're engaging in that with a pet, it's like very calming.

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Well, also probably like... Primitively, if you're hugging someone, maybe you're grabbing the back of their shoulders and you're like, we've generated that over time.

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And kind of posted it online and say, look at him. He's getting bigger.

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But more internally, thank you for the feedback. And maybe I do need to look at some of this.

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100%. And that's a lot of things you talk about in the book, make change that lasts. Nine simple ways to break free from the habits that hold you back. And there's a lot more in here that I want people to dive into. So we'll leave people with that right now so we can go get the book. But a lot of big praise from some amazing people. So make sure you guys pick up a copy.

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Beautiful images in here as well, which works for my brain to be able to see the images and relate it to the habits. So I really love that. This has been powerful, Rangan. I appreciate you for being here. And I want to acknowledge you for having the courage to follow your path and your truth. And I wouldn't say leave behind, but upgrade where you're at from being in the medical world for 23 years.

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And you just said you recently stopped practicing in that discipline. What's the main reason behind that?

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I remember I had Ali Abdaalan a number of years ago, and he was holding on to like, I'm still doing, I don't know, 10 hours a month of... you know, medical practice because I'm afraid if I let it go fully, people won't take me seriously as a YouTuber and as an author and things like that. And I really just kind of challenged him on that. And I go, what would it look like?

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And he eventually on his own decided to leave the practice and not be practicing medicine, I guess, or not have any patients. And he realized it was just a fear. Like he was able to grow even more. He was able to do more of the things that he wanted to and not hold on to something that he once wanted to, but no longer wanted to anymore.

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With all the credentials that you have, with all of the years of experience, with the tens of thousands of patients or clients that you've treated, with all the knowledge you have, when was the time that you trust yourself the least? Even with all the credibility and the education and the tools and the success, what was the time that you had the least amount of trust in yourself?

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For me personally, raise a beautiful family. Stay healthy and strong all the way to the end. And pursue every dream in my heart that I feel I was meant to pursue.

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that helps you refocus on what's important in life. Yeah, that's beautiful, man. We all need those exercises to start practicing for sure. And I think life goes by very quickly. You know, I'm 41. I always forget my, I'm 41, but it's like, when I think back, in the last five years, it was like a snap. You were here essentially five years ago in LA. That is not, yeah, yeah. March 2020, right?

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Almost five years ago. Yeah. It's like a snap.

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It's gone. And, you know, in five years, hopefully we see each other before then, but in five years, it's going to be like this. And we want to be able to look back and say, was I doing those main core things on a consistent basis that give me closer to an end of life, peace, gratitude for how I showed up that I lived that life that I wanted. And I think it's a great,

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time that you're sharing this where this will be out at the at the new year season for people to have that reflection am i taking those weekly actions that are getting me closer to the life i want to live now and something that i will be happy that i did in the future as well yeah and that exercise right that exercise if people do that at new year

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That's great, man. I love it. I want people to get the book, Make Change That Last. Make sure you get a copy. Get a copy for a friend. Powerful stuff here. And also you have an amazing podcast that people can subscribe to. We'll have that all linked up. But the main site is drchatterjee.com. Is that correct?

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Dr. Chatterjee on Instagram, YouTube, the podcast, the book, everything is linked up at drchatterjee.com.

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I can get everything. Exactly. Okay. Awesome. Final question for you. This has been powerful, Ranga, and I appreciate being here. What's your definition of greatness?

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you wanna make it easier, you wanna make it flow, you wanna feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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or this unresolved trauma that I've had through my parents or childhood might be causing me some of these physical symptoms that I have.

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Might be causing me these irritable bowel symptoms or constipation, or maybe I have these incredible migraines and headaches that are just causing me so much pain in my head, or I feel this tightness in my chest, or I have this skin condition that just keeps flaring up and I'm eating all the right things. I'm trying to do all the right things, but for whatever reason,

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When you trust yourself the most, what are you doing? And what are you not doing?

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I feel like maybe it's related to stress and my emotions. Well, if that's what you've been thinking, you're not crazy. As we enter this new year, he explains why most people struggle to maintain lasting changes. And he also offers practical solutions from breaking free from these limiting habits that have been holding you back.

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With the president, do some coaching advice. Eventually. Do a little whistle as a coach.

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I was a basketball player first, and then I stopped throwing, and I was like, I'm not going to make it in the NBA, so let me go try football.

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I guess, where are our dreams then? What dimension are our dreams when we sleep?

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You have so much content online that I've seen. We talk about these aliens and pyramids and all these different things, different dimensions. But I think the stuff that I like the most that you talk about, and I think that my audience resonates with the most, is around manifesting their dream reality.

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They have an idea in their mind of what they want to create, a business, a relationship, get their health to a certain level. They want to achieve an accomplishment in a sport or musical or a success, whatever it might be. They want to take something they have in their mind and alchemize it into the real world that we're in, if this is real, right? But they want to create it in this reality. Yes.

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And I'm curious, with all your studies, because you've been studying this for decades about kind of ancient wisdom, forbidden wisdom. Yeah. But also you've been studying modern philosophy and modern science as well. Oh, yeah. So what does the ancient wisdom you've researched and modern science taught you about manifesting?

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You got to be thinking about how can I serve more because that will help me create greater value within me when I'm adding value outside of me. And again, I just want to say thank you because I just got back from a two-week book launch tour and School of Greatness live tour. We went to seven cities. We did tons of press interviews. And I got to see so many of you live in person.

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Yeah. And then I guess the next the follow up question around that is a lot of people don't even know what their dreams are or they have a loose idea. I want to make a million dollars. I want to lose weight or whatever it is. It's not fully clear. It's like they have a desire or they have a. a pleasure is outcome that they see others have that they want, but they're not clear.

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You can talk about the ancients used to have, I guess, whether it was a real crystal ball or just their, their metaphors of like, Hey, we could see it in our minds and a crystal ball in our mind, seven different outcomes of how our life could play out if we wanted it, if we went this path and this path. And then, uh,

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You talk about the conscious thought and the action, the consistent action to go manifest and alchemize that idea and collapse time and space until reality meets that thought. So how important, when wanting to manifest your goals and dreams, Are our thoughts, our words, and our actions? Should we be loosey-goosey with our thoughts and words to others, to ourselves? Is it act once in a while?

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Is it obsession? How important are thoughts, words, and actions in manifesting our dreams?

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I just want to say thank you. Thank you for showing up on our tour. For those that were coming up to the meet and greet afterwards with me and I was signing books, I just loved interacting with you. I loved connecting with you and hearing what your stories are about. hearing how you've loved the School of Greatness for so many years as well. So I appreciate each and every one of you who came out.

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What are the words we should never say about ourselves?

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I suck. I'm horrible. I'm not good enough. I'm not worthy. I'm a horrible person. Like, yeah, I don't want to say that and just put it out there. But as an example, we're saying it. Well, it's it's the sad thing is I used to say that to myself all the time as a kid. Yeah, I was guilty myself to others about me for like the first 20 years of my life. Yeah.

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And I want to say thank you. If you weren't able to make it out, I want to say thank you for listening to the School of Greatness, for being a contribution here in our mission to serve humanity at the highest level. And so many of you bought a copy of our new book, Make Money Easy, Create Financial Freedom and Live a Richer Life. And I big announcement.

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Maybe more consistently at times than others. And so I feel bad for the younger version of me that I treated myself that way. And I was blocking peace, freedom, opportunities. And I still was quote unquote successful and accomplishing a lot. And I'm always like, man, I wonder what I could have done had I been kinder to myself. Had I spoken differently about myself.

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And had I viewed myself differently? And I think people get mixed up and thinking, well, I want to make sure I'm humble and I don't want to speak like I have this God or I have this big ego or something like that or I'm untouchable.

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And so it's figuring out a balance of how to communicate with self in a loving, compassionate way without being like, I'm the best in the world and no one's better than me or whatever it is. It's like there's a fine line to that.

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If someone does not believe in themselves, in their dreams coming true, what is going to happen?

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Gosh, a perfect example, you know, it was a year and a half ago. I did this exact exercise. And my fiance, Martha, she told me to do it. And I was kind of like, nah, this is kind of silly or whatever. But I actually, I was in so much pain for three months. I had, when I was 16, I had eight teeth removed. Four here, then four wisdom.

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So four wisdom, but then four others, because when I was a teenager, My teeth were kind of crowded or whatever. And that was what they did back then. They removed all your teeth and you were supposed to have, I didn't get braces afterwards. I was supposed to. And so my jaw kind of grew in and collapsed where my back teeth never touched. They still barely touch today. Wow.

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And so I waited 20 years until I got, I put those four teeth back in with implants.

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And I had to do bone grafts. And it was just a painful process. And one of the implants ejected.

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After a month. So it was in my bone. It just wasn't healing. And it came out one night. God. So they had to do it again. Oh, man. Six months later. All this stuff, right? And my head was throbbing for months. It was on like... Medicine, which I never take medicine, but it was in so much pain.

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That's too much. I had to. It was like throbbing constantly right here. And after months, she goes, you need to look in the mirror and you need to forgive yourself. You need to forgive yourself for what you did to yourself 20 years ago. You need to forgive yourself for doing this now, even though it's bettering you. But you need to love and accept yourself for what you've been through and forgive.

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And she was like, I want you to walk into the bathroom right now and don't come out until you follow the entire process that you just said. Wow. And I kid you not, I cannot make this up. I was in throbbing pain for months. Within moments after having this conversation, the pain was gone. I get chills just saying it because I was just like, I don't know many people.

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It's very vulnerable to look yourself in the eyes in the mirror and say, I love you. I forgive you. You matter. You're enough. You're deserving of peace, freedom, health, love. And I forgive you for everything you've done. It is so powerful. So I'm glad you said this because I have a personal experience to it that got an instant result.

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I'm not saying it's going to be instant for everyone, but I felt an instant relief of pain into freedom by forgiving myself, which was the first step that you talked about. So I think... A lot of people, they always hold on to the past. They never forgive. Right.

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And so that's part of your, I guess, formula for manifesting what you want or for creating the life that you want to create is starting with forgiveness. What if you've done horrible things?

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So thank you for supporting this mission, for continuing to grow your inner abundance so that you're able to create the external abundance that you want.

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So on a scientific level, what is our body made of then?

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I really think this is gonna help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness.

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We are here to continue to find the people, the insights, the stories, the research, the science, the tools to support you on amplifying Your life at the highest level. And figuring out how do you get unstuck? How do you take things to the next level? How do you continue to be abundant on the inside so you can create abundance on the outside? That's what this is all about.

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I'm so blessed and grateful that you're here constantly showing up. And we have a big episode for you today. I hope you enjoy this episode with Billy Carson. We're going to share a lot more about these things around creating abundance in your life. So stay tuned. Make sure to follow. Share this out with a friend. And here we go. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness.

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Very excited about our guest, the inspiring Billy Carson is in the house. Good to see you, man.

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My man, I'm excited. I've been seeing your content just kind of blow up online. So I want to make an easy three-part question to start with. Yeah. The first one is, what is the universe? And are we living in a matrix? OK. What dimension are we in right now? And how many dimensions are there? And what is our purpose as human beings?

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It's so much. When there's two givers together, it's like exponential.

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Man, so I... The affirmation that you say to yourself is I'm worthy of abundance. I'm worthy of love, of happiness, of a healthy relationship. And I am the creator of my destiny, essentially. I think that's what you say.

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of your success is related to the principle of affirmations, would you say?

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I love this and I believe in this because I do this as well, but I can already see people are watching and listening and saying, okay, I'm going to command that I make a million dollars in the next month because I see this reality and I'm going to take the actions and, but it's not happening. I've been commanding it for years and these things aren't happening. I'm still stuck. So,

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How can you command the reality you want to manifest while also not being attached if it doesn't happen and the timeline that you want?

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Or it might happen and then you sabotage it or you're unhealthy or you're not happy with it or something bad happens.

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100%. And being of service, adding value. Right. This is something I wanted to follow up with on the previous question. Around... Well, I'm not sure where this ties in, but this came to me and I wanted to mention it. Actually, I do know. Your affirmation of, I'm the creator... What is it again?

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And you were mentioning before that how... I'm not a victim in needing other people to provide for me, or needing other people to save me or rescue me. It's more I'm the architect. This is probably going to piss off a lot of people because I don't watch news, but I do see people sending me clips of content here and there, and I know what's happening in the world.

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There seems to be in the last five years a heightened race war, a heightened gender war, and a political war where it's someone or someones or groups have more power than others, have more rights than others, and I'm not here to justify who has what or whatnot, but there always seems to be groups of people that say, you're not giving me what I want or what I deserve or what I need.

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And it's your fault. And you need to give me these rights or this type of understanding or this type of benefits, whatever it might be. Right. What happens for people that come from that space? Is there power in that race war, political war, gender war, whatever it might be, if someone's coming from that space?

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People that are complaining about the situation. Or saying like, I'm a victim to this situation, whatever it might be.

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Yes, and you need to change to give me more of this. You need to change for me to have more, to be accepted more, to be whatever, have more rights, whatever it might be.

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Yeah, I mean, I guess there's a price you pay for any decision you make, right? Like there's a consequence and there's a benefit to any decision you might make.

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So we've got these, I'm just kind of walking through these steps right now. Forgive yourself, speak positive affirmations, and really own that you are the architect of your life. Is there any other steps that you would add to this to having a formula for manifestation?

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Yeah. And I think a lot of people think about abundance in the external world, but they don't work on the abundance in the inner world.

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This world is about mastering the inner world first. And the more that we master it, and I don't know if we ever fully master the inner world that has 13.5 billion bits of information in the history of the world. I mean, it's like so much to master, but the more we can understand, again, and Be on a healing journey of our past and at least accepting and forgiving those things, right?

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To clear space energetically throughout our body and our mind's consciousness. Right. The more we can start

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reprogramming ourselves to speak positively, whether it be affirmations or just conscious words into the world, the more we can have powerful intentions with our actions to being consistent with those actions to get us out of the place where we feel stuck or trapped into a new field of possibility. Right.

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And visualizing this end result that you talk about, meditating on it consistently, this entire journey together of working on the inner world and seeing what we want to come to reality, I feel like that's when you collapse time and you manifest faster. But if you're just thinking, I need more, I want more, you know, I'm only working external as opposed to internal, it's going to be stressful.

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It's going to be harder. It's going to take longer. You might still get it. It's just going to take more time.

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When someone has a mindset of I'm chasing after my goal versus attracting it, what happens?

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Yeah, it's powerful. Amazing. Is there any other elements to this process that you would add?

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And I would say, you know, just to add to that, and maybe it's the last thing, and you probably already have this in your process as well, is when you receive, really express gratitude. Oh, it is so important. When you get a baby step in progress, I'm so grateful for this process and the progress that I'm making every single day.

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Even though it doesn't feel like a lot, I know it's so much farther than where I once was.

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It's never going to feel like it's happening fast enough.

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It's never always been, I wish it could happen faster, right? And I think you're just resisting the flow, like you said, when you're ungrateful for the growth.

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And even a setback is growth if you're taking consistent action. You might have to break certain patterns and you might have to like disconnect with certain people or leave a job or you might lose money or opportunities at first to then move forward. And it might feel like, oh, this is even harder now.

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But know that if you're taking the actions, that setback might be the ultimate growth that you needed. And so when you gain, you're consistent with your word on a daily basis, and you are your word consistently with what your actions are going to be, and you do it, you follow through like you said, receive the gratitude. Receive the fruits of the consistent that you've been doing on a daily basis.

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If you're like, I'm wanting to write a book, and I'm like, I'm writing one page a day. Okay, receive that. I took action. I did this step today. And receive that gratitude.

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Welcome back to another day of your life, a day of your life where you get to create possibilities, you get to grow, you get to experience, you get to use your talents and gifts to make a difference around the people that you're interacting with, around your dreams, your goals.

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Yeah. That's good, man. I love this a lot. This stuff is powerful for me. There's a question I want to ask you about time. What is time and is it an illusion?

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How does that happen? How does science discover that or claim that to be true?

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Right. You couldn't even go back there, I guess.

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So how do we bend time to manifest our dreams faster?

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So when we're thinking of thought, who is thinking that thought? Where does the thought come from? How does that process work?

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So it could be a thousand people who said, oh, I had that same idea. I just didn't actualize it.

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You know what's interesting about that? What's coming up for me right now is sports, playing sports. And there's a great, gosh, what's the quote? I think it was Gretzky. Maybe it was like, I'm always where the puck is going to be or something like that, you know?

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When I was playing basketball or football, I was never the best athlete on the field. But I always had a sense, like a feeling of like, it's going to be there in that space at this time. Let me go there. It's almost like I could predict where the ball was going to be thrown.

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Where I needed to pass the ball for the person to get in that space in the next three seconds. Like... And I developed that through sports. And I could always see kind of the future in sports. And that skill set of the vision of time and space allowed me to be better in sports. Exactly. And the same thing with business. It's probably the same thing with your business as well.

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I see this trend happening. This is... The world is moving into this place. I'm going to be there as well.

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What do you think that is within someone like a Jordan or someone who's just at the top of their game? Because Jordan had his own demons. He had traumas. He had challenges. He had conflicts. He had... legal stuff happening. He had relationship issues. He had team issues with whatever it might be. He had stresses in life. Sure. Billionaires have challenges. Yeah.

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But what is it that separates people in the top 1% to get in the flow and ride the wave of the frequency on the universe better than everyone else?

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There's a story. I was in eighth grade. And the high school, there was this senior who was the most gifted athlete I've ever seen playing basketball. And I would play with the upperclassmen sometimes in eighth grade because I was 6'4". And I was more talented than eighth graders at the time. So they would let me practice with them sometimes.

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They were better than me, but this one guy was a freak athlete. He looked godlike, chiseled, perfect body, jumped 44 inches, 360 dunk it in practice, effortless, so smooth. But in the game, was average at best. And I never understood it. And I would ask people later, I was like, what was it about him? Because when he practiced, it was unstoppable. And he could just do anything he wanted.

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And they said he had a lot of self-doubt. That's it. And I was like, I had a fraction of that talent, but I learned how to believe in myself and it got me certain results. And it didn't look as pretty, but I got results, right? And I learned how to believe.

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So how can someone who has a pattern of falling into self-sabotage, how can they switch it off and get back into self-belief?

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Is this kind of like, if you could give an example for someone that they might be listening or watching right now thinking, I'm already lost. Is this kind of like an interstellar when McConaughey's character goes through the black hole and there's like kind of different vast dimensions of time and space? Correct.

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And if you feel stuck, trapped, or if you feel just like you're a little bit off in life right now, I want you to get out of your own mind and out of your own thoughts that are holding you back and just say, how can I bring a smile and a joyful moment to someone else today?

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So would that state be joy, love, excitement, passion, adventure, curiosity? Would that be more of the higher frequency state?

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So when you were, you know, a decade ago, when you were more robotic, in your words, and I guess analytical and stoic, were you allowing yourself to express at the highest frequencies possible?

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What's the thing you love about your wife the most?

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It's a blessing. Something to receive and be grateful for every day. Of all the ancient wisdom that you've studied and researched and gone down rabbit holes for decades on this topic, What is the ancient truth or wisdom that most people don't know about that you think is the most powerful thing we should be aware of?

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So Interstellar, kind of the movie itself, was it kind of made up sci-fi or is it based on scientific evidence we have today?

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Wow. What do you think is keeping humanity from living in peace?

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Is it possible to break the traumas of our ancestors?

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So it's a collaboration over competition. Did you always have a collaborative mindset growing up or were you more into competition? You had to break that cycle.

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There's a... Ego, fun feeling of competing and beating someone. There's a feeling to that too. Yeah, absolutely. That's more of like a darker side, I guess. Unless it's in sports, like there's a spirit of competition where you can also have a spirit of sportsmanship. Right. Which is can you compete and then shake each other's hands afterwards. Exactly. In the spirit of the game. Exactly.

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Of competition. Thank you for helping me elevate my skills to this new level. Facts. Maybe I lost the game, but you helped me grow. And when both teams or individuals can do that in the spirit of sportsmanship and kind of collaboration of raising the frequency within each other, that's a win-win.

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Even if someone loses, you can create a win-win.

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Facts. If you interpret it differently. So I had to learn that in my 20s because I was all about competition. Yeah. I need to be number one and win. I need to be able to rewrite. And, man, it's exhausting.

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I had to learn how to be collaborative in my 30s and realize that's the true key to getting success is like helping others win, serving others, being of value. And knowing that it's not always going to be them that help you win also. Exactly. It's not always going to be that.

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But I was just telling this to my brother this morning for like the last, I don't know, 12 years of doing this show, but also just kind of 16, 17 years of being in business and stuff. I've just tried to be a giver. I guess me and you are givers, and that's why in a wounded place, you attract a taker in relationships where you have an emotional wound of intimacy.

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But in life, I just try to be a giver. And I was telling him this morning, I was like, not every person I gave to has given me something of equal value or greater value in return to what I gave them. But I live in a beautiful home. I have a sanctuary. I have an opportunity to make a difference. I have a big platform. Life has given me so much. Yes.

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And I believe it's because I keep showing up consistently, not perfectly, but consistently to try to find value and give that value to other people. Yes. And by being of service, I believe that you will be rewarded eventually. It may not happen right away, but you will gain something.

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incredible gifts and it's going to look different than everyone else but it's like i receive and appreciate and i'm grateful for what i have and i think that is also an element to manifesting more yeah is really living in the frequency of gratitude for what i do have yeah And you can want and create more, but also, like, if I don't have more, I'm happy.

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I have nothing to complain about. That's beautiful, man. Even with all the traumas and all the challenges and relationships and everything.

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That's beautiful, man. Yeah. Do you have a spiritual practice today?

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That's beautiful, man. I love that. Yeah, whenever I'm feeling down or maybe sick or something like that or something like cold coming on or whatever it might be, I imagine... Flowing stream of like golden water. Yeah. Flowing from the top of my head, like through my body, cleansing myself. Yes. And just visualizing this like golden river flowing through my body. Right. Out my toes. Right.

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And whether it's placebo or whatever it is, it seems to always make an impact. Yeah. Yeah. By thought.

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It's not actually happening. Yeah. But I'm imagining that it's happening.

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We're not our thoughts. We are the observer of our thoughts. What is the biggest illusion that people have?

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Well, it's also a community aspect. If your community or family or friends have a belief system and you're questioning their beliefs, you're questioning them, they start to get upset with you. You don't want to be kicked out of the tribe or the church or the community. You want to have love and family. So it's a... Delicate situation.

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It's challenging because you, I think we should be questioning things. Shouldn't just accept everything that is told to us as 100% truth and fact. I think you can ask questions about it and that's a good thing. And maybe you come to a belief, you come to an agreement of like, oh, this belief system works for me. Yes. It benefits me. Right. It gives me value.

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It brings me more harmony and alignment in my life. And this, set of values when I live up to them, I create a better reality for myself. That's it. I feel more peace. I feel more free. I feel more abundant. Or does this set of values, do I need to adjust some of them or question them? Or were they pushed on me? And maybe they do work, but maybe they don't work for me right now.

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You know, it's like you have to question things like that.

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What was the program that you had to decode and reprogram that was the hardest for you?

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Send a few text messages to friends, smile at a stranger, compliment a coworker, whatever it is, get out of that stressed out feeling and get into impact, service, contribution, acknowledgement, generosity. because gratitude and generosity are the gateway to abundance. And if you haven't been doing that consistently, this is your reminder.

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688 pages. I don't know if you could do this in a short answer, but what is money?

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So it's kind of like seeing where is money's frequency at and then putting your energy on that same frequency level. Yeah. There's going to be money in the dot com, whatever this thing is. I don't know. Let me go understand it and learn about how to use it. Exactly. Be involved in it and then get because there's going to be money flowing there.

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I've got a couple final questions for you, Billy. This has been powerful, and we'll have to have you come back on for another episode in the future. But I want people to follow you, ForbiddenKnowledge.com, ForbiddenKnowledge.tv. That's for the four. You've got an amazing – this is a newer book right here, right?

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Newer book called Fractal Holographic Universe. The Matrix Code Revealed, if you guys want to learn about – More about everything we've talked about here, it's all in this book. You can check it out on your website, forbiddenknowledge.com. Also, this seems pretty interesting. Woke doesn't mean broke. And this is a thick book. This is all about money.

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Woke doesn't mean broke. I love this. Thank you. Anywhere else we should send people to to support you today? You've got these different places to go to.

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That's beautiful, man. Thank you. We'll link it all up and send people there. Appreciate it. I want to acknowledge you, Billy, before I ask the final two questions for your ability to transform over the last five to 10 years. Again, it sounds like you were very analytical, you know, in a certain mode.

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And I think that when people allow the child to come out of them through healing the inner child and through the journey of healing and forgiveness and It sets us free. And when we are free emotionally, spiritually, mentally, I feel like we make a bigger impact on the people around us. We have a greater potential to actualize our best selves. So I want to acknowledge you for that transformation.

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And for showing up the way you do. I know you get criticized and attacked online for stuff. And I appreciate that you're just constantly trying to find wisdom that relates to you and you're trying to share what you're learning.

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And I think you're doing a great job, so I want to acknowledge you for that, Billy.

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And if people want Billy to come back on, leave a comment below, share the biggest takeaway from today, and we'll get Billy back on in the future. But this is a question I ask everyone at the end called the three truths.

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So imagine a hypothetical scenario. You live as long as you want in this realm, but it's the last day on Earth. You accomplish and manifest all your dreams. Everything you want to happen happens. Right. But in the last day, you've got to take all of your work with you. So the books are gone. The TV network is gone. Anything you create, gone. Hypothetical. Yeah.

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But you get to leave behind three lessons that you've learned from life. And that's all we would have from your content. What would those three truths be for you?

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Yeah, that's beautiful, man. And the final question, Billy, what's your definition of greatness?

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Appreciate you, man. Powerful stuff. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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So would you say the universe then has its own set of consciousness or its own consciousness and its friends are the planets, the stars, beings, trees, water, and it's sending data to the universe?

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What is the difference between the 3D and the 5D?

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So is it possible for humans to get out of the third dimension into a higher dimension?

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This is your wake up call, you deserve to have peace and abundance in your life. And that starts with gratitude and generosity and just doing it in a moment throughout the day. And I know sometimes you can feel overwhelmed financially, or like your purpose is not there or your relationships are off, but you've got to shift the negative thinking and step into generosity and gratitude.

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My friend, thank you so much for being here back on the School of Greatness. I am blessed and grateful every single day that I wake up. I get to wake up in a beautiful city. I get to wake up in a dream home. I get to wake up with a beautiful woman next to me that brings me peace and love and joy every single day. And I just feel blessed. I feel so grateful. And

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100%, if I'm seeing other people in my industry interview someone maybe or talk about a certain topic that's taking off, I feel like, oh, do I need to do the same thing or do I need to interview the same person and ask them similar things, but is that original or am I just kind of going with the trend? So I'm always trying to, It's a both and. I'm like, okay, that is an interesting person.

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Let me have them on, even though maybe they'd been everywhere already. But what's the new thing I can gain from them? So I try to really say, what is a perspective that they haven't shared? One of the questions I asked you before we started rolling was, what's something that people don't ask you they wish they asked you? What's on your heart and mind lately that you haven't talked about? Right.

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I'm trying to get just a little bit of information to say, what's really interesting to you besides just saying the same things every time about, tell me about this song. Yeah. Tell me about this person you work with. Yeah. Like, you've said these things a million times probably. Yeah, yeah. And so my goal is to connect to you emotionally and as a human being to see what speaks to your heart. Yeah.

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But getting to connect with him on a human level and learn about his heart, we talk about how you can use your art, use your music, use your service to heal others. And it was interesting to hear his response when I talked about how he is bringing healing energy to the world every time he performs and makes his music. It was really fascinating to hear what Anton said about that.

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I appreciate that. Yeah, you're welcome. And I truly believe... Whether people who are watching me who have no clue who you are, that's what they want. And people who are your fans or followers, that's what they want as well. They've heard you maybe say all these other things with the music shows. Tell me how you produced this song. Okay, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But what's interesting to me is like you had so much success at an early age. I know the weight that that carries for someone in their early 20s to have fame, money, and attention. And you just said when something is consistent, say 100,000 likes every post or whatever, and then it goes in half. you start to have this level of doubt or insecurity that you said, did I say something wrong?

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Did I do something wrong? Do they not like me anymore? Am I less relevant? Is there a younger person coming up who's more talented than me? What are they doing that I'm not doing? You start to question. So my question for you would be then, how did you learn to navigate the self-doubt while being on the top in the industry

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but maybe things going in half or less people showing up to shows for a season of time in your career. How did you navigate the emotional doubt?

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We talked about so many different things about how to stay relevant, how he sees other people in the industry trying to chase relevancy and what they do that might be hurting their art. There's so many cool things in this episode. I really hope you enjoy this. Please share it with a friend that you think would be inspired by this episode as well. You can copy and paste the link.

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One of the things that I appreciate about my father, who's no longer here, when I was a kid growing up, he would always turn the commercials off when we were watching sports or TV together. He would turn the commercials off because he didn't want us to be targeted with messaging that he didn't believe our brains needed as like seven-year-old kids. specifically around medications, drugs.

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He didn't want us to be programmed like so many people are sick in the world and you're gonna get sick too. So you need this medication. He didn't want us to think that way. And so still today, I don't watch commercials. And this is an American TV thing? It was my dad. You know, it's just my dad. I don't know many people that did this because my dad just didn't like the American commercials.

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Because there's a lot of medication commercials? Probably, I don't know. I don't know what the stats are, but I would say at least a third of commercials. Really? A hundred percent. I've never watched American television, so I'm very unaware.

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I mean, turn off the commercials if you do, because at least a third are either food, like fast food, which is making you need the medication if you eat it all the time. If you're eating it all the time, have fast food once in a while, sure. But if it's everyday fast food, it's going to make you sick. And then you need the medication to take care of the sickness. That's their solution.

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And so we just wouldn't watch it. And I curate my social media like that. I only have programming of positive content, positive messages, positive – people that I respect that are like saying something as a reminder to positively influence me. That's awesome. Otherwise, I will not watch it. Yeah.

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Like if it's anything about unless there's one random thing here and there, but it's like I program my feeds. That's awesome. Or I delete something that I don't like or I'll remove it or I'll just whatever swipe away or whatever it is. Yeah. And I think We need to take power back and responsibility back on what we're consuming. That's true.

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And how we're programming ourselves or allowing platforms to program us and create some type of barriers and boundaries around it. Turn it off. unfollow, whatever it is. Even if they feed you other things you don't want, you can probably say remove this type of content over and over and hopefully they won't share it.

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If you're on Apple or Spotify, just copy and paste the link to this episode. Text it to a friend or two. And if this is your first time here, please click the follow button on Spotify or Apple and leave us a review and share what your biggest takeaway was from this episode. And without further ado, let me introduce you to the one, the only Zed. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness.

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Right, interesting. Give me a newsletter that's telling me 5,000 people died today in this country. Cool, I'm sad that this happened and that's unfortunate and I'm aware now. Don't show me the visuals. Yeah, yeah, I see. Because then I'm being entertained and then in my whole body, my nervous system feels like this is happening everywhere all the time. Yeah.

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And it's like, it's a heightened emotion. If you see that every second, killing, anger, screaming. You're in fight or flight constantly. Educate me, inform me through the written word, but don't show me visually. Right, wow, interesting. All the time. I'm sure you're going to see moments here and there, but it's like, minimize that.

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It is because- For you as an artist and a musician, What is the benefit of AI versus the scary part of AI for you?

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Yeah, it's also goes back to like, you built the brand, right, Zedd. People think of a feeling and an emotion when they see or hear Zedd. They know there's going to be, for most people, I think a spiritual, whether they're thinking consciously or not, there's a spiritual experience inside of them when they see Zedd, or they hear the sound.

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I'm very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring, Grammy Award-winning, incredible individual, Zedd In The House. My man, good to see you. Good to see you. Thanks for having me. You go by Zedd, but your name's Anton, so we'll flip back and forth today. But a lot of people have listened to your music for the last decade-plus. And it's been their theme song for a lot of people.

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They're like, they remember the feeling, I get chills thinking, but they remember the feeling the first time they hear it or that night in Vegas or when you came to their city and they had their girlfriend and their boyfriend and they had this incredible emotional euphoric experience for two hours. And they maybe never felt that ever in their life again.

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And so when you build a brand, Zedd, with the feeling of It's hard to create something more powerful than the combination of a brand and the feeling together than just chat GPT saying, make me a better song than Zedd.

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Yeah, I don't think it'll ever fully replace it because I think you need a story and personality behind the art. Maybe there'll be some one-offs or some anomaly of like, oh, AI generated whatever, and people really appreciate it because it's a unique one-off thing.

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Your music has been their life. They play it on repeat. They dance to it. They get into relationships to it. They go through breakups with your music. It's like help people throughout their entire lives for the last decade plus. And you have, I was telling you off camera that you, even though you're not aware of it, you bring healing light to the world.

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But I think when you have a personality and you're able to build a brand around emotion and something that people love, it's hard to beat that.

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That's got to be like a spiritual experience for you. It is. You see the whole audience move in unison or sing in unison or wave or dance.

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I had a... I had the singer Hosier on. He's extremely talented, great music. I asked him what's his most spiritual experience he's had on stage. Cause he's got the song, like take me to church and all these different things. And I go, it's a spiritual experience for the audience, but is it also for him? And he gave me a really honest answer.

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He was kind of like, you know, I've kind of, I do it so often now, like I'm on the road all the time. I'm always performing and it's like, I don't necessarily take it for granted, but it's like, it's hard to feel that feeling for him is kind of what he was saying. He's like, I recently did in Mexico City. The audience was incredible. It was just like so loud and everyone was singing my songs.

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And it's like that kind of felt spiritual. But you kind of go through the motions sometimes and you just forget about it. Do you feel like every show sometimes you go through the motions or do you have a spiritual experience certain nights? And when you do, Is there something that you're creating energetically inside of you? Are you in a good zone with your habits and rituals and routine?

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Are you in a good state emotionally when that happens? Like, does that happen? And what are you creating to make that happen?

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And you were like, huh, I don't really think about it that way. But your music, when people are dancing, they are at one of the highest frequencies of energy they can be at. So when you have...

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I mean, I see- The streams, you got like massive hits, Grammy award winning.

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I think it's actually a really good thing. It probably makes you a healthy human being. And you don't believe all the hype of yourself. I think that's the worst thing that people can do is believe their own hype. I think you can appreciate what you've created and how hard you've worked. And like, man, you've dedicated your life to your craft. And you can not diminish that.

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You can appreciate and have self-respect and self-worth and know your value. but not believe the crazy hype of someone who's just like, oh my God, you're incredible, you know? Yeah, that happens a lot.

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anxiety, stress, depression, thoughts of suicide or whatever it might be that are holding you back and you move your body and you dance to something that feels electric, that feels spiritual, you release all of the stress, the pain, the worry that you're having in your life.

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Is that a European kind of way you were raised? Because it seems like it might be, or is that... It's definitely possible.

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Even though there can be challenges, even though there might be stresses at times, and I know there's adversities that I get to face over and over in my life in different areas, I try to focus on the blessings and the gratitude as often as I can because I can easily go into frustration or lack or not enoughness.

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Now, if you're doing it on drugs and medicating yourself, maybe you're diminishing a little bit of that spiritual high, but the energy you bring to people heals. And so I want to acknowledge you first for being a creative source of healing energy for the world. And I know you said that's not the way you think about it because you don't make art for others. What did you say to me off camera?

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Wow. When you're playing, I mean, now that you have this information that when you go to a different city, different state, different country, different continent, and you know there's different energy of an audience, like now you know you've been everywhere, you've played everywhere.

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Do you approach every show the same in terms of like setup, the lighting, the loudness of the sound, whatever it might be? Or are you thinking, oh, the Philippines rocks this way. So I'm gonna change the lights to create a mood and an environment to let them shine. And I know in England, we're kind of like a rowdier bunch and they're kind of off tune or whatever.

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And they're just more screaming rather than like on pitch. And so I'm going to make it like louder for them and like, you know, deeper, deeper bass, just let them rumble. And it doesn't need to sound the way I like it, but it's going to sound the way it makes them feel most alive. Have you ever thought about that?

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Toto, the band. Like Africa? Yeah, yeah. Oh man, I saw them play once. Really? I would have loved that.

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I stayed with the opener for, oh my gosh, Journey. Oh, cool. Oh, awesome. Yeah, it was fun.

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You'll play it there. I will play it there.

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That's smart because I speak a lot. As a speaker, I'll go on stage. I like to go early. It kind of sounds similar to what you're doing. And I'll either ask other speakers, how is the audience? But I like to go even earlier and ask people in the hallway hours before. Oh, wow.

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And I like to ask just like people attending, whether they know who I am or not, I like to just say, hey, what are you going through in your life right now? That's amazing. What's your biggest challenge you're going through? What are you facing? What's like something?

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And based on what they say, I'll try to use that as information as like this is a general collective of what a lot of people might be feeling. and try to speak into that. And I'll leave a reference. You know, I talked to Susie in the audience like a few hours ago. Oh, that's awesome. And she mentioned that she was really struggling with this in her life.

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How many other people are feeling like they're struggling in this part of the area of their life? Uh-huh. And then I can kind of speak in and try to relate to that audience more. That's amazing. It sounds like you do that as well with, hey, tell the other artists who opened up, how was the vibe? Are they low energy? Do I need to bring it up? They like more rock music.

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So it's really smart you do that.

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This is fascinating. I've got a few more questions for you, but this has been really cool, Anton. I appreciate you opening up about this. Likewise, yeah. Thank you. You know, there's either a stereotype or stigma or just a feeling that you see some artists die young or just get burnt out or stressed out or overwhelmed or they can't take the fame or money or just don't know how to manage it all.

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It seems like it can be daunting. Yeah. You know, you've seen a lot of younger artists struggle, things like that.

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how have you been able to navigate that yourself with either burnout the success the fame and also how do you manage and navigate it when other artists that you know are struggling whether their mental health suicidal thoughts the overwhelm of needing to be relevant and they're not as relevant whatever is going on how do you manage it personally and then how do you navigate it because i know you've had friends who've you know taken their life yeah how do you navigate that as well

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So what would you say is the purpose of you creating music today? Because you've been so successful. You've won a Grammy. You're up for another Grammy. You've won every other award under the sun. You've got billions of streams. Why keep making music today?

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If you don't enjoy what you're doing. Dude, I'm so glad you're saying this. And it's beautiful that you can be a model for other DJs and artists to be able to, hey, you've done it with alcohol and without it. And you're just as effective, if not more effective, because you're more present, you're more aware, all these different things probably. I'm a significantly better DJ sober.

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I've got a couple final questions for you, Anton. I know you've got to jump out of here soon. No, it's all good. To finish with that, 20, I don't know, 22, 23 years ago, I was going out to the clubs to Paul Oakenfold and Tiesto and Ferry Carsten and like kind of those guys back in the day.

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And I remember I would go, and I think I was probably the only one that was sober at every club I'd go to, right? In my like 21, 22 year old self, right? And... I would go and I'd maybe have Sprite or have like a Red Bull or water or something, but I would just, I didn't need alcohol to feel alive. And everyone had asked me like, are you drunk? Cause I was just like jumping the whole night in it.

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And I was like, nah, man, just get high on life. And the energy can bring you alive, I think. Yeah. And if you bring the energy, you're also going to feel that as well.

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I don't know if there's any... benefit strong enough for the case of drinking a lot of alcohol. Like if you want to have a glass of wine or a shot once in a while, cool, whatever. But I don't know if there's a benefit of like, hey, I'm getting hammered tonight beyond that moment. There's no other benefit.

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And what it does to your brain and your health of like the consistency of that, there can not be any good in that.

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Really? Because people, none of their own fault. And I'm not here to judge because I've had sugar highs my whole life. That's been my advice is like, okay, I'm going to eat a bucket of ice cream, which is equally as bad in certain ways. It's got its own thing.

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I just think that whenever there's ability to do the easier way, if you're feeling anxious, stressed, overwhelmed, for me, it's like, let me go to sugar. Let me go to comfort food. Whatever it is, whatever the easy way is, humans are gonna go that way.

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If it's alcohol because it doesn't seem like the big issue and it makes you feel more relaxed, whatever is the easier way, smoking cigarettes or e-cigs, The easy way to numb something is what human beings are going to do. Unless they're really trained on how to regulate their emotions. And if you don't know how to regulate emotions, then you don't know how to get through life.

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And you need something to stimulate and calm or soothe you and comfort you. It doesn't mean you're bad or wrong. It's not about good or bad. It's about... Does it serve you? Yeah. Does it serve you? Does it serve the people around you with you being drunk or high or on drugs and then the next day not able to deliver or perform or you're forgetful? Does it serve your life?

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I'm getting from your team, we got to get you out of here. So I've got two final questions for you quickly. I could go for hours with you here, but I want people to... Number one, I wanna go to one of your shows. So I wanna go to Vegas or if you're on tour, people gotta go to your show. We'll bring you. Okay, cool. But I want people to go see you live. So where can they go to see you live?

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So, you know, you might have to... Just check the website.

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Awesome. Very cool. So check it out. Zed.net at Zed over on social media everywhere. These are the two final questions for you. Before I ask them, Anton, I want to acknowledge you for being an example for so many people in your industry. to continue to transform yourself. You got the loop on, you're talking about like eating healthier.

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I think that could be one of the biggest things that holds artists back who continue to make it at your level, where they let go of their health. And so to see you take back control of your health and say, how can I continue to improve and not let the anxiety, the overwhelm, the stress,

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get to me and feel like I need to do more, but how can I actually take a step back, reflect, work on my health a little bit better? I wanna acknowledge you for that, man. Thank you so much. It's beautiful to see, because I hate to see talented people and good people burn themselves out. Yeah. So I appreciate and acknowledge you for that. Thank you.

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And I want to acknowledge you again for being a light to so many people and bringing healing energy to the world, whether you're conscious of it or not, whether you're planning to do it or not, You're doing it. And hopefully you'll think a little bit more about that in the future when you step out on stage and you say, how can I bring healing energy?

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I think you're gonna notice something extremely powerful shift over time when you bring that intention to the audience and what you'll receive in return, just the intention, I'm here to heal.

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I'm curious to see whether you take it or not.

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I will report back. I see. Yeah.

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100%. Healing energy. Two final questions. I got to be quick with you. One is, if you could imagine you get to live as long as you want to live, but it's the last day on earth for you. It's far out in the future, but it's the last day. You get to accomplish every dream that you have from this moment until the last day you're here on earth.

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but for whatever reason on the last day, you have to take all of your work with you. This conversation, gone. All your music, gone. Anything you've ever said, gone. But you get to leave behind three lessons with the world that we would have to keep from you. What would be those three lessons that you would leave behind with the world? Well, that's such a deep question.

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And I just want to remind you today of how grateful I am for you for being here and how blessed your life truly is. even if you're going through something challenging right now, you have a beautiful opportunity to transform that challenge into a lesson, into a new way of being, into learning something that you didn't know before and being wiser than before. So I hope you are...

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Awesome. Three good lessons. Final question, Anton, what's your definition of greatness? My definition of greatness. Can you give me an example? My definition is to pursue your unique talents and gifts. or excuse me, to maximize your unique talents and gifts in pursuit of your dreams. And in that pursuit, make the maximum impact on the people around you in a positive way.

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For me, that's greatness. But I've been practicing this for 12 years.

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It's so interesting you say that because I had Rick Rubin on. I don't know if you know producer Rick Rubin. And that's what he talked about a lot. It's like, don't create your music or your art for an audience. Creating it for yourself is the best way that you can put art out. And in a world where You know, I'm not a musician or an artist in that form.

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I feel like I create my own art in a different way, but I'm not a traditional artist. But in the last five years, it feels like everything has changed for a lot of musicians, let's say, because of either TikTok or social media where they feel like you have to chase a trend and make it for a platform to take off. Instead of... what am I truly feeling? What is my life about right now?

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What do I want to express myself through the tonality, the expression, the musicality, the harmonies, the sound design? And it seems like most people are chasing trends or platform acceptance versus how am I truly feeling? And I'm making this for me. And it sounds like that's what you've done over the last nine years is stay true to what is my expression, whether anyone listens to this or not.

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But how do you go about thinking I needed to do somewhat well so that I make some money from this or it's commercially acceptable because I'm a commercial artist versus I'm making art for me and it doesn't matter if anyone listens to it.

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feeling good today, but if you're not, know that there's an opportunity for you to transform, and I'm excited for you on this journey of transformation together. We've got a big episode today with Zedd. His name's Anton. He is one of the biggest music producers in the world, massive hits, billions of streams with his songs, some of the biggest songs of the last decade.

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To get exposure. It's a tricky balance. I mean, have you ever felt like... Because you've been on the scene for almost 15 years where you blew up around 15 years ago, roughly. You were in your early 20s. And you had just a rocket to success with your music. And... relevancy, right? As an artist, like you became very relevant in your early 20s.

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And I just had a great conversation with him And I cannot wait for you to meet this individual. He has a very unique lifestyle. He works all night, multiple nights a week, and sleeps during the day. He is constantly working with the biggest artists in the world. He's an artist. He's a musician, a producer. He's extremely talented.

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Did you ever feel like, oh, I'm not as relevant and I need to be playing the game of social media or doing these specific collabs that maybe I don't really care about, but that's a big upcoming artist. So I need to be on the train of the collab game. Have you ever thought about that or is that? I have. Really? Yeah, yeah, I have.

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Hey, my friend, welcome back to another episode of the School of Greatness. I'm excited for this episode because so many people struggle around relationships. I have been one of those individuals. For most of my life, I struggled. And I think I was in five or six kind of long-term relationships from my late teens to my late 30s.

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Because Jillian brings unique insights from both her professional expertise and personal journey, which is something that I love. including her experience with divorce and healing her relationship with her father that caused her a lot of pain in intimate relationships with men.

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They have the expectation for someone else to live up to, but they're not living up to half that standard.

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Yeah. And without calling me out on my imperfections.

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We dive deep into the difference between lust and love and why you can't convince someone to love you and how to develop the self-awareness needed for healthy relationships. This was something I wish I had 20 years ago because it would have saved me a lot of pain.

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When were you the lowest self-worth in a relationship in your past?

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One year of that abuse happening?

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You're like, I love it. I'm going to solve this.

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Why do some women love to take on a challenge with a man that they're starting to date when they see a man that maybe has some charm or has some good qualities, but also has a lot of complexities? Yes. A lot of brokenness, a lot of... poor behaviors, a lot of wounds.

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uh and a lot of stress but we all learn lessons exactly when we need to learn them so unfortunately i didn't have this podcast 20 years ago or this this content wasn't out there for me so if you're here and you're going through a breakup or you just went through a breakup or you struggled in relationships then I want you to know you are in the exact place you need to be.

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Why do some women say, I'm excited to take on this challenge and fix him or solve this problem and be the one to essentially rescue him? Why do some women take that on?

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Or is that something like chemically inside of us? Well, it's also... What if you didn't watch any movies ever growing up and you never saw that? Would you still have that?

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He's got tattoos. Maybe he's young.

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He'll give false sense of protection in the outside world, but intimately, he'll take from her.

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But what is that within a woman who wants to rehabilitate a man and get into a relationship with a broken man? What is that?

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This is a synchronicity and a sign and a signal from the universe that you are in the right place. And I want you to get out of bed of paper and take some notes. She's also going to talk about the critical importance of speaking your truth in relationships, even when it feels uncomfortable and risky. And man, do I wish I had this power. for two decades.

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I mean, I speak from my own experience. The challenge with that, what I've experienced in the past, is that It has never worked where, you know, person I've been with, I've tried to pour into them as much as I can. They've never been able to kind of overcome their level of self-worth or whatever it might be. And so you're always going to be let down to thinking, oh, I can help this person grow.

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You might see a little bump. But the more you pull her in, they have to want it so bad. They have to want to improve and heal and change and transform personally. If you're pouring into them and they barely do a little bit, but then they go back and they stay back, you're going to be exhausted. You're going to be emotionally exhausted.

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And then you're going to be resentful, which is what I've experienced. It's like... I'm pouring in this person. They don't want it. I'm half the problem. I'm the one who's choosing this.

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Exactly. As opposed to choosing someone who's a partner, not a project, right?

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It's a big difference having a partner in your life. where it's high engagement, low attachment.

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And you go into it highly engaged and, you know, investing all those things you said at the beginning, like invested, curious, caring, thoughtful, you know, all those different things and being your best self and pouring into someone, investing them, but being very low attachment to if this is going to work out.

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Like you want it to, but if their behaviors are all wrong, if our values are all off, if it's certain things are completely off, you can't be high attachment to how it's supposed to turn out, which is the hardest thing when you're investing in someone.

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I was not able to speak my truth and it was a massive cause of a lot of breakdowns. Then she's going to talk about the essential truths that can transform how we approach love and connection. So if you've ever struggled in relationships and you want to build stronger ones this year and beyond, This episode will give you the tools and the wisdom to create lasting change.

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If someone has a low self-worth, we were mentioning like the cases of women who love too much. If there's a woman, extreme case, that finds a broken man in prison, you know, or sees like, oh, a case of this man who like murdered people or whatever they did, And then starts writing them love letters and then starts visiting them and then starts getting a relationship, which has happened many times.

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and starts a relationship with a man in prison at their lowest, most wounded place, essentially, right?

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If you could guess on a scale of 1 to 10 of a self-worth scale, 10 being those women who make those decisions, have a high level of self-worth, 10, or 1, a low level of self-worth, where would most of those women be in that scale range of choosing to be with a man who is the most broken man, essentially, they can find?

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And I am so excited for you to dive in. If this is your first time here, please click the follow button on Apple Podcasts right now or Spotify and leave us a review. When you follow and you leave a review, it really helps us to spread these messages for free to more people in the world who might be struggling or want personal growth.

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Something that's coming up for me right now as we're talking about this is, even just reflecting on my own life, is that I believe our self-worth is connected to our sense of wholeness and our healing journey. Yeah.

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Because I can reflect back and see my level of self-worth, even though I had a false sense of confidence in a lot of areas, but my true inner self-worth was a lot lower than I projected.

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And my behaviors matched my lower sense of self-worth when there was a trigger and I didn't know how to emotionally regulate my nervous system. And as I've learned how to create more wholeness internally, my level of self-worth has continued to increase and my level of detachment, like being fully engaged in something I'm committed to or value, but being less attached to the outcome

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has been able to expand, that range has been able to expand more.

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And it goes back to what you said earlier. It's like two healthy people coming together or two people working on increasing their level of inner health.

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But again, to recap that, I believe that when we feel more whole, our sense of self-worth will increase. And we feel more whole when we start to heal.

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But most people are not committed to the healing journey. They might say, no, they're not. I'm committed to the healing journey.

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But your actions, like where in your calendar are you putting in time to heal?

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Show me the actions, whether it's, it doesn't have to be therapy, but like what are the actions you're committed to on a consistent basis? And what are the results you're gaining? Are you able to reflect on that journey?

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So click the follow button, leave a review, and just go ahead and copy and paste the link to this episode and share it with one or two friends. Send it in a WhatsApp group chat, post it on social media, share it with a friend of yours that you want to see continue to thrive in their relationships now and in the future. If there's someone you care about deeply, send this to them.

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So for 20 years, I was in multiple long-term relationships and I just, man, I struggled. And I thought I figured it out after every breakup what to do and that it wasn't my fault and it was someone else's problem. man, was I wrong?

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but most people are judgmental in general. So how do you become less judgmental as a human being?

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And I'm excited to dive into this episode. But also, big announcement, if you haven't heard yet, my new book, Make Money Easy, Create Financial Freedom and Live a Richer Life, is coming out very soon. I'd love for you to order it, pre-order right now. The link will be in the description below on Apple Spotify. or wherever you're listening to this, just click on that link.

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What's a sign of someone being not emotionally available?

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What would you say are three tools then that all relationships should be investing in developing in order to have more success in their relationship?

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The people in it. What tools should the people in it be investing in to set up their relationship for more success?

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Success meaning peace, harmony, joy, fulfillment, adventure, all the things that they want in the relationship.

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It'll take you right to Amazon. Would love for you to get a copy of my book because one of the biggest problems that people have in relationships is around money. So if you want to create a harmonious relationship with money and have better, healthier conversations with money,

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Three tools that each individual should be investing in to have more success.

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But you got to practice it. You got to practice it and practice it.

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And what is better communication in your mind?

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I'd put that at number one still.

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What you're saying, what you're not saying.

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with the people you're with, friends, family, and intimate partners, this book will give you the tools and the teaching you need to feel financially free and harmonious in your relationship with money. Make sure to check it out. It's called Make Money Easy, Create Financial Freedom, and Live a Richer Life. Without further ado, let's dive into this episode right now.

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I mean, here's the thing. I'm hearing these three things, these three tools that I got to set up a relationship for success. But someone watching and listening might say, I don't have any time to do any of that. I've got, you know, it's a career. He's got his career. We've got kids. We've got responsibilities. We're exhausted. How can I learn to communicate better?

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How can I learn when I don't have the time for myself? How can I learn to master the other person when they've changed so much over the last five, 10 years?

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And how can I, you know, we don't have time to do couples therapy or workshops or things like that. This just seems like too hard.

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And you're a relationship coach.

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You've been in some beautiful relationships, some challenging relationships. What is your biggest fear at this age of your life being a single woman and a relationship coach? And what do you, I guess, what's your hope for your relationship in your future?

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It scares me around like, are there enough good men out there? Is there anyone for me? Is there, you know?

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Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guests. We have the inspiring Jillian Turecki in the house. So good to have you back and congrats on the new book. It begins with you, the nine hard truths about love that will change your life. You've got an amazing podcast as well. This book is coming out very soon.

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The challenging thing is when you're single for a long enough time and you've got an amazing life and you've experienced a bad relationship in the past. It's like you don't want anyone in. It's like, why would you want a relationship when you can do anything you want at any time and life is freaking amazing? an adventure daily. And you have the things you like the way you like it. Yes.

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No one telling you what to do. No one making any special requests. You don't have to deal with anything outside of your world. Yes. It can get very tempting to want to stay single for a long time.

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What's the vision that you have for yourself in a future relationship? What are the values that you want in a relationship? What's the vision and the lifestyle that you want to create in that?

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Not in a class, but teaching the class.

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A man should worship me and put me on a pedestal.

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You're more messed up in a relationship.

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And you have been on just a tear over the last couple of years of helping people figure out about relationships and love. And it seems like the world is struggling more than ever to find harmony between people. There's a lot of divisiveness in the world in general, but two people coming together, it just seems like it's really challenging to find peace within love.

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You're making sure they're like not toxic in their behaviors.

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But I want to see you getting into a relationship with a guy who can't add value to the relationship.

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But why get married when you started to see this before?

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High engagement, low attachment. Yeah, yeah.

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And it's maybe someone's tendency is to be like, I need some space for a minute. Like I need to, I don't know what to say, but I'm going to be back in a few hours and we can talk about it. I'm totally cool with that. Hey, I'm shutting down because of the trigger and I don't want to talk about it right now, but I'll come back and talk about it later.

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Yeah. I need some space for a moment or I need an hour.

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And I'm curious, I saw something that you talked about recently about why it's really hard to create a relationship with someone who's not invested in you. And I'm curious, what are the signs that you can tell whether someone is invested in you or not? And why can you not build a relationship with someone who's not showing you these signs of investment?

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It's probably the most important decision you'll make ever in your life is the person you want to partner with long term.

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Yeah, it becomes your mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, and sexual environment.

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And that environment is going to dictate your level of happiness in a lot of ways.

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Create your own fulfillment first.

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I mean, even just this last week, I've been traveling. I had a big event a month ago. And then I've been on the road for like a whole month. I've barely been in L.A. And I've been traveling multiple trips every week. And every weekend I've been gone. And I was feeling, even just last night, I was just like, man, I feel a little off. You know, I feel like I've gained some weight in the last month.

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I've been eating poorly. I haven't been in my routine. I haven't been able to work out the way I like to. Like, it's just been like sleeping in all these different beds. It's like, it's disorienting.

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And even when I feel like I... you know, and maybe because I, I feel like I have a high standard for myself with my routine and my nutrition and my sleep and my environment. Um, I'm still fine. I'm still doing good, but it's like, I can feel it even being off for like a month. Right. and trying to get back to that environment, that space that brings me fulfillment.

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And it doesn't mean I'm not fulfilled. I'm fulfilled, but it's just like I can feel a little off, right?

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I mean, I don't hold on to suffering. And I go back quickly to, man, I have a beautiful, blessed life. I'm grateful for everything.

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But I could feel emotionally and physically like, oh, I just feel a little off.

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But I know what that's like being off all the time.

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And having, you know, and feeling wounded consistently and feeling like, and then making poor decisions because of my lack of self-worth. And then reacting out of fear or anger or resentment versus centered wholeness.

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And it can really impact a relationship in a negative way if two people are living in that space.

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Yeah, it's your ability to tolerate more of the things that are uncomfortable but not tolerating poor behavior of someone in the relationship.

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What would you say then do you think are the three biggest killers of a relationship? Like the three things that when you're coaching or working with people that, oh, this relationship is done unless they decide to change these three things.

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And it took me a lot of sadness, a lot of suffering, a lot of pain, a lot of harsh lessons through all these different relationships on what I needed to start shifting to attract harmonious love, to attract someone who was the right match for me and really to become the person who was the right match for myself. So it was not even actually about finding someone else who was right for me first.

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Yeah. It's the expectation that someone's supposed to do something without appreciating it, for me, is something that I resent. Yeah, of course.

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And it's just like, oh, well, you're my boyfriend or you're my partner. You're supposed to do this. Yes. And so I'm not even going to acknowledge anything good about it.

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You know, whether you're paying for something or showing up in this way or doing these things, whatever it is. And not just saying a simple thank you. Just showing, you know, putting your arm around them and just like hugging them. And like when they do something nice for you, just showing the sign of appreciation. Right.

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You don't have to say thank you all day long to someone like you're, but it's the lack of that is the loudest thing for me.

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100%. Please and thank you. Yeah, they're a gift, not a given. I like that a lot. So the killer relationship, resentment, stress, and taking someone for granted.

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Why do certain people, when they're starting a relationship, and the other person, man, they're really showing up. They're doing all the things you talked about. They're really investing. They're showing they care. They're not ghosting them. They're getting back to them within a reasonable time and texting them. They're... You know, saying, hey, let's do more of these things.

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They're going to hang out with their friends and willing to be with their family early on and really showing up for the other person. And they're showing all the signs of like, man, this is a quality, healthy human being. Why does someone might be attracted to that for a while, but then start to sabotage it? And then start to say, this is maybe too good to be true.

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Or they start getting angry at the person or trying to pick a fight or trying to test them in some way. Why do, I don't want to say women are the only ones that do this, but this is my experience. Why do some women try to, or some men try to like, oh, they're too good. And start to sabotage and start to like pick fights and start to get mean and start to disrespect them.

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Why do people do that in the beginning stage of relationships?

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Why do women do that? I don't think men do that as much.

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I don't want to generalize it.

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Is that from like a young girl in childhood, like testing their parents or what is that?

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Oh, no. Men have a different level of pressure.

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They're expected to make six figures and be a certain height and make me laugh every day and be emotionally intelligent.

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I mean, the level of pressure I feel like is you have to be sensitive. You can't be a man. You have to be sensitive more than what you're used to. You know, all those different things.

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I love men. Men also feel like they're not enough.

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They won't sabotage it. They won't try to sabotage it right away.

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I don't think I've tried to test Martha with anything without it being, just being very direct.

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I don't think I tested any. I'm sure I did. Yeah, I know. I'm not going to say I didn't test anything.

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Because I'm still thinking about a woman I dated that after three months, she started just like sabotaging it. And I was like, what is going on? Like, nothing just happened. You're getting angry at me.

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What is that within women that they're getting into a relationship sometimes and things are good. And then they just want to start... I don't know, attacking the guy they're with or just... Nothing happened, but all of a sudden it's like, okay, I'm going to push you and press you and see... Yeah, and see if you're strong enough to... Yeah.

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Well, okay, so some women will... And the whole, you know, if he can't love me at my worst, he doesn't deserve me at my best thing. I'm like... Does that mean you're just going to be watching your worst the whole time?

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So I could be a monster out of control, but you have to be strong enough to take it.

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You have to be strong enough to handle it. But then I need you to be emotionally sensitive enough and have such an extreme range of safety for me.

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no matter how much safety we create for someone, if they don't feel safe or integrated, they're still gonna feel unsafe.

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Exactly. It goes back to two people who are working on a healthy journey.

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I think I mentioned this the last time we talked where, you know, I've been in, I don't know, five kind of longer-term relationships, you know, from whatever, 18 to... For 20 years, I was in like five different long-term relationships. And... They all ended in therapy, right? But I wanted to do the therapy.

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Each partner didn't want to do therapy.

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It's usually the reverse. I go, every woman wouldn't be begging for their man to go to therapy. Like, what is this? And then I realized after the fifth time, I was like, Well, I'm the common denominator. I'm choosing these women who don't want to do this work. So something is off within me.

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By attracting and choosing these type of women.

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Staying in these relationships, trying to make them work and all these different things.

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An athlete. Exactly. I'm going to make it work. I'm going to do whatever it takes. I want to show you I'm here. I'm committed. I'm safe. You know, whatever it is.

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And so one of the things that I, I guess, going back to your other question, which like, how do you test someone in a relationship, right? I wouldn't say it was a test. It was more like, I'm just going to be completely honest about what I want. And you can either take it or leave it. And so I guess it was a test.

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But early on in the relationship with Martha, as we were just dating and weren't committed yet, I said, the next relationship I get committed to with someone is someone that's willing to go to couples therapy at the start.

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Not because something's wrong, but because I want to create, make sure we have shared values, a shared vision and shared agreements and make sure we have alignment. And if we don't, why are we going to spend two years and then start talking about that when things start going bad?

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And we go to the gym, you know, preventatively as well to stay in shape, to stay healthy. And that makes us feel better than going when we're sick.

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It's a lot harder to repair when you're sick. Absolutely. It takes a lot longer to get healthy.

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Then when you're healthy or healthy enough, you continue to prevent and stay healthy by actively pursuing it. Absolutely. And why do we, if the relationship, if our, if our intimate partner that we choose. and want to stay with for a long time is the most important we will ever make in our life. And we don't choose to preventively or invest in the health of that relationship.

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We're setting ourselves up for a disaster.

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And I was like, I'm going to be, I don't care if you think I'm crazy. And I'm not saying everyone needs to do this. Yes. But I spent 20 years, five different relationships, that I suffered in, you know, not the whole time, but there was suffering, there was sadness, there was exhaustion. It was, I'm sure for my partners too, you know, it was a lot, we weren't right.

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There wasn't, there was good times, but it was also like, man, it was a lot, a lot of energy wasted. And I'm not here to blame them. It's like, I take responsibility.

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But it's like, man, I, I look back and I wonder what could I have done with my life in terms of with more peace, more harmony with choosing differently and them as well. You know, what could have they done? What could we done? And, um, And it wasn't like I had like bad intentions and it wasn't because I wasn't willing to do the work. It was just, I guess I wasn't ready.

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I wasn't healing yet to be able to choose and have the courage to communicate. That's what I think it is like learning the communication skills. I was a good listener, but I lacked the courage to upset someone with my truth. Yes. And so I, I, when I would start to tell them my truth and like, here's what I want. And they would start to react emotionally.

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Well, okay. How'd I make you happy?

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But that's why I think you shouldn't, you know, be sexually intimate until you get to see more of the person. Because when you're chemically bonded early, And that rush or that high or that drug feeling is in your nervous system. And all you want to do is get back to that. It's really hard to disrupt that once you've experienced it.

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And that is where I think a lot of people get themselves tied up in a web that they cannot get out of, or it's much harder. And so if we can wait longer, which is the hardest thing to do right now, if you can wait longer before you enter a relationship... which is so hard to do, especially if you're having fun and you're connecting, you're going on these magical adventures together.

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I'm telling you, it is one of the best things I ever did.

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It's like we're, you know... And they, like, it blows their mind to realize how long I waited. That you waited, yeah. They're like, that's not possible.

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You know, I go back to the whole, I don't know if Esther Perel originally said this, but it's like, you need to be thinking of, could I have 10,000 meals with this person without having sex with them? If I wasn't having sex with this person, could I have 10,000 shared meals with them?

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And you have to respect them without sex.

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Most people use sex as a tool to repair and get back to feeling good again.

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And then they go back in a cycle over and over.

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And it doesn't mean it's going to work out.

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That's the whole thing. I'm just trying to say to set yourself up. I felt like I was able to be more creative. This was my testing. If you're asking like, how did I test someone?

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But it wasn't about testing. It was more just like, I'm going to be- You weren't testing her.

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Yeah. And it was, how can I remove chemical distraction?

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so that i can have ultimate courage with my voice and say my truth 100 and see how this person reacts or responds in front of me and based on that response i'm not chemically bonded to where i can say oh that's interesting this person is acting hysterical right now and if they're hysterical there's history that they have not tended to yes and they have not healed their history because they're hysterical for me just saying these are my values this is my vision this is what i'm up to in my life

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And if you're freaking out over that, okay, we're probably not the right fit.

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And I'm glad we got to have some friendship and fun and connect, but we didn't chemically bond. And therefore, I'm not confused of saying, well, can I make this work because the sex is amazing? Well, just let that slide. You know, and that has been, that was a massive, it created so much more peace in my decision making. And to say, and Martha is incredible.

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And she was like, yes, I'm willing to go to couples therapy at the beginning. Yes, I'm working on myself and I have my own friends and my family and my own fulfillment. I don't need you to make me feel better.

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And yes, I'm doing, you know, it's like, it made me feel safer to have the courage to speak up. And another way I tested was telling her all about my stuff from the past, early on. Like, here's the relationships I've done. Here's the things I've done that I'm not proud of.

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Here's the thing, like... How early on did you... I mean, maybe like... I mean, well, some stuff within the first, like, night of meeting her. Oh, really? You know, it's like... Because the conversation allowed for the space of vulnerability.

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It was a very, like, you know, we had some... I was like, oh, okay, she's opening this conversation. Let me go a little farther. Yeah. But within the first month, you know, and we spent a lot of time together. And I think it was just like, I'd rather know quickly if we want to continue to hang out, why spend six months together before I open up? Why not just share within the first few weeks?

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And if she's scared of my past, I can't change my past.

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You can't hold someone against their past.

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Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. And it's like all of it. You can't hold it against them. You have to be able to accept the person for everything they've been through, where they're at now. Yeah. Otherwise, don't be with them.

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And there's not things that I like about her past. It doesn't mean you have to love everything that's happened. And she probably doesn't like or love the things that I've done, you know.

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But you also say, oh, that's also made you who you are today. And you're more loving and compassionate and willing to grow because of this stuff.

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You know, vice versa. Absolutely. Yeah, if you can't accept a person's past, it's going to be very challenging. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you wanna make it easier, you wanna make it flow, you wanna feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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You mentioned something that, you know, and a lot of people put their best foot forward in the beginning stages of dating, but then they'll start behaving differently, you know, two years after the honeymoon phase or something. And you said something about- Three months. Yeah, maybe three months.

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And you mentioned something about having, you know, a relationship is only as strong as two healthy people in it or how healthy the individuals are in it. Is that correct?

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It was really about me becoming the person I needed to be in order to create healthy boundaries, in order to speak my truth, in order to feel safe. And then from that space, I feel like I really attracted an incredible person who understood me, who accepted me, and who saw me. But I wasn't even seeing myself in all my deficiencies until I started to do a lot of the work.

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Why do people start behaving poorly after they're in a relationship?

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Well, so- And why do people stay in a relationship once their partner starts consistently behaving poorly?

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And today I'm sitting down with a powerful relationship coach and author, Jillian Turecki, for a conversation about love relationships and personal growth. And she's got a new book out called It Begins With You. And in this episode, we dive deep into the incredible takeaways from her book, as well as her life experiences.

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So, you know, if a behavior is good in the beginning of a relationship, hopefully, and you get into it because the person is kind and caring and thoughtful and curious and investing time and all these signs that you talked about, but then, whatever, six months, six years later... their behaviors start to change. And they're not living up to that standard from the beginning.

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Why do people stay when a standard drops significantly in relationships?

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Yeah, and it's hard to disconnect.

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And how amazing it's been the first three months.

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welcome back to the school of greatness my friend today i'm excited for you to be not only inspired and motivated to take action in your life but really to feel empowered to step into the ultimate man that you've always wanted to be and for ladies listening this may be more powerful for women to listen to because you're going to understand how to understand the men in your life whether it be men in your family

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Wow. Yeah. So not that long ago, actually. No, oh no, no. So before 46. Would you say you were more of a one-sided, lesser range of emotions type of man?

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Wow. So around 46, you made a decision that just being a protector and a provider was not all you wanted to do anymore.

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Is there some myth that you saw as being dismantled, that you grew up in a certain way thinking you needed to live a certain way? I know I thought I needed to live a certain way as a man. And in some ways, those beliefs served me to a point, but in a lot of ways, they didn't serve me in relationships or in my business and in other areas.

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So she had peace because she wasn't holding on to the memory. Yes. If you don't have the memory, if you let go of the memory, now you have the peace. You're like an empty vessel that can experience joy and love and harmony again.

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Do you know any men today, either unknown or successful, influential men, who have zero relationship with God, that live a harmonious, peaceful, and successful life?

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And if you're a woman, I want you to leave a review with a comment on your biggest insight and takeaway on the myths and the beliefs that you feel like you need to question and maybe are dismantled as well from this conversation. I believe you deserve to feel the most authentic, comprehensive version of yourself.

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Still doesn't have peace. It's almost worse in a sense, because I did everything I thought was going to give me peace. It didn't. Now what? There you go. Now something is really wrong.

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And sometimes modern society tries to hold us back and put us into stereotypes as men and women in modern relationships. And in some ways they serve us and in other ways they hold us back and cause pain and suffering. And one of the biggest challenges in modern relationships today is I think the men and women in relationships are not being fully authentic and they're not healing.

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What should a man put their identity in if it's not their work, their success, their money, their relationship, who's in their circle, who they know? What should they put their identity in to have more harmony?

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Where do you feel like you struggled the most as a man?

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If I do this, I will receive. If I don't do it, it's not going to be there.

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So when you enter into a relationship where you're living in past trauma, you bring that trauma and wounds into your relationship. And it's hard to grow if someone's constantly living in the past.

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Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Which of the 10 characteristics of a comprehensive man are you the most limited still? Do you feel is still something that has more effort and harder to actually embrace and comprehend?

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They just said they have multiple, you know, women.

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And if you're not being authentic or saying what's on your heart and your mind because you're worried of upsetting your partner or you're worried that they're not going to like you or they're going to react in some way and you people please them, then you're not being your most comprehensive and authentic individual in the relationship either.

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Why do you think it's so hard for men to commit in an intimate relationship?

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With being accepted. I'm just a human being, man. Do you think men fear commitment more because they lack the ability to be emotionally transparent and to be received for their range of emotions? Or are men afraid to commit to one woman because they don't want to just only be with one woman for the rest of their life?

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And one of the biggest problems that people have in relationships is around money conversations and money struggles. And I've got a brand new book coming out. It's called Make Money Easy, Create Financial Freedom and Live a Richer Life. And this is going to help you understand your money history, also your money personality style today.

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What's your thoughts on hip hop and hip hop culture and music? Is it helping men and women in any positive way or is it only a lower level frequency that is really keeping men and women subject to hurt, harm and sadness?

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You've got an amazing exercise in your book, The Man the Moment Demands, about looking in the mirror, about spending more time in the mirror. And actually, when I saw that, I was like, huh, wouldn't that reinforce people's egos to like stare at themselves and say, oh, look at me, I look so good. Because I think a lot of people actually spend too much time in the mirror

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And it's going to give you the tools to unlock freedom for abundance and have a more healed relationship to money in your life so you can have a healthier relationship with the man or the woman in your life around money so it doesn't cause you problems. friction in your relationship as well. I want you to create peace in your life. I want you to feel free.

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checking themselves out or selfie, looking at themselves, making sure they look good or have the right makeup on for women, whatever it might be. I actually think they're too self-absorbed looking. But you have an exercise about looking in the mirror for what reason?

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Most men can never look themselves in the eyes to another man for more than a few seconds without shimmying around or, you know, it's hard for a man. One of the reasons why I chose to do this show in this style is to be completely across from someone. Not that it's bad or wrong if someone's not across from them, but a lot of people sit kind of catty corner. That's true.

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You know, it's like you sit next to each other, kind of facing each other in like TV set, which again, nothing wrong with it. Right. but it doesn't force you to reflect and see how you're showing up. Like in there, you can kind of, I can look here. You're sitting here, but you're over there, right? Got you.

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So I can just kind of wander off and kind of talk and, you know, connect to the audience, which I get it's a different setting. It's a different context. but you can hide a little bit. You know what I mean? Again, nothing wrong with it, but I believe that if you truly want to understand someone, you've got to face them. I agree. And you've got to face, oh, does this make me feel uncomfortable?

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What is it about them that's making me feel uncomfortable? Why am I struggling to resonate with this person? Why am I struggling to look at this person in the eyes and really feel them in this specific way? And if I want to be more comprehensive... I can't just listen to their words. I have to listen to what they're not saying.

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men who are friends of yours, men in the careers that you're in, and the men you're in relationship with. I sit down with my friend Jason Wilson, who is a best-selling author, founder of the Cave of Adullam Transformational Training Academy, and he is an author of a new book called The Man the Moment Demands.

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And if I'm looking off here and just kind of answering questions or talking, my energy isn't connected to your heart. It's out this way, and my head is looking at you, but not my heart facing and embodying all of you. And I think energy doesn't lie. But if you're out here, you can hide a little bit. Doesn't mean you can't have a great conversation. Absolutely, yes. Doesn't mean it's bad.

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I want you to have beautiful relationships with yourself and with others. And this episode is going to unlock that for you. If you're enjoying it, make sure to share this with one friend.

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It's just... I wanted to force myself to be like, okay, let me embrace all of this. If I'm nervous, if I'm excited or whatever, like, let me feel it.

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Is it harder for you to stare into a man's eyes or your wife's eyes?

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text this, just copy and paste the link where you're listening to this episode, text it to one friend and ask them the biggest takeaway they learned from this episode as well and have a open conversation with them. If you're in a relationship, send this to your partner and say, hey, what do you think about this? What do you think about Jason and Luis's insights?

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It's almost like your wife does to you what you do to young men. Exactly. That's funny. She'll say, why are you? Like, she'll kiss me. Now, this is funny. She'll say, give me a hug. She'll go to kiss me. This is what I do seriously sometimes. So she's right here. I do this.

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You know what's also interesting? Probably if she stopped asking you, why do you do that? Or why don't you look at me more? I bet if she stopped kind of like pressuring you in that way, you might feel more comfortable to do it also at some point. Or I may not do it. But if she stops doing it, you might say, oh, she accepts me for who I am. That's possible. Let me lean into it now.

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I feel more accepted. I'm going to tell her to watch. You know what I mean? And then maybe in like six months, if you're not like new, she can reflect and bring it back. But almost when Martha, I think Martha's really smart in how she approaches me in certain things. Cause I, I don't know. I, nothing comes off the top of my mind, but like, but I'm sure I do stuff like that in my life with her.

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Not like this perfect man with her, you know? Absolutely. she does a really great job. I don't know how she learned this, but I'm like, gosh, she's got like a whole nother level of psychology inside of her because she'll like, she'll know that maybe I'm resistant to something energetically or she's not the intuition around it. And she'll just accept me. And maybe she'll mention a few times.

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I'm like, ah, I don't like that or whatever it is. And then she'll stop pressuring or pushing. And she'll kind of let it go and just love and accept me for who I am. All my inefficiencies, whatever it is. And I'm like, I appreciate that she's not doing this to me so that I want to give it to her. You know, it's like I'm more open to wanting to try whatever that thing is.

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Again, this is about opening the conversation for more expansion and possibilities for growth and love. And that's what you deserve. And that's what I want for you. So excited. So let's dive into this episode with the one and only Jason Wilson. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest today is my good friend, Jason Wilson in the house. Good to see you.

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Did you used to argue a lot in the beginning of your marriage?

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That was our relationship. What is it when you see married couples fighting, yelling, arguing, holding on to these arguments for long periods of times? What are they saying to you? What is it that they're doing or not doing or they need to step into in order to evolve? And when people say, well, every marriage has arguments and all people, all healthy marriages fight.

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Always good to be here, man. Excited that you're back. You've got an amazing new book out called The Man the Moment Demands, How to Master the 10 Characteristics of a Comprehensive Man. And I wanted to start this. You're a bestselling author. You've got an amazing school for young kids and also fathers.

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Oh, it set her a sense of freedom by releasing it.

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Yeah. So this this one of the activities in your book, I think it's really powerful that we talked about already. It's called Mirror Time. And I just want to walk people through the exercise. I think it's really cool. Take out your mirror or stand in front of your mirror and silently gaze into the eyes of the man reflected in it.

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Which again, I think just doing that for 10 seconds, most men are unable to do to really look in their own eyes. Especially after reading that chapter. Yeah. Of unpacking the things that they've been holding on. Absolutely. But I think men struggle looking themselves in the eyes without looking at their ego. Yeah.

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With that look, I have to read how they look or shaved or my hair look good or my... Nothing wrong with putting yourself together, but the exercise of staring into your soul...

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When they look, they see shame, they see not enoughness, all these things.

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So look yourself silently in the eyes of the mirror of the man reflected in it. Don't look away for 60 seconds. That alone is an amazing exercise. But what you have people go through is the next thing is big. Then affirm that man with the following statements. One, I am not an alpha male. I am a comprehensive man. I will practice chivalry in the lives of the women I love and encounter.

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on how to become better men and how to be leaders of their own lives and how to be leaders in their community and their families and step into the characteristics, the distinctions of leadership for authentic, comprehensive men.

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I am worth the effort it takes to look good. I am smart and capable enough to master the rules needed to impressively and successively participate in any social function. I think people doing that What if they don't believe they're worth, they're worthy, they're smart enough, they're capable enough?

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You know, what if they don't believe they're a comprehensive man because they haven't proven it to themselves up to that moment?

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You've been doing this for decades in Detroit, but also you have a documentary and an ESPN that is spread around the world and your social media following is massive as well. And I'm curious, there seems to be a deficiency of... comprehensive men in the world and specifically in America seems to be that way.

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You talk about a few things in this book. Protecting and providing is part of the comprehensive man, correct? Yes, sir. Yes. part of the ingredients of becoming a comprehensive man. And what it sounds like from the generation you came from, that's all men knew what to do, was project and provide and kind of nothing else, right? It was kind of what they leaned on, right?

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I'm a protector, I'm a provider. Even now still to some extent. Really? I feel like the younger generation... has lost the, of men. Okay, yes. The teens and young 20s has lost the art of providing and protection. I agree. And maybe have swung more into the other elements of the comprehensive men.

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If a man does not know how to protect and provide, what type of woman will he attract?

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I don't know if there's a combination of social media that is hurting men or if it's gender roles being confusing from where it once was and now it's shifting and so men don't know how to step into their masculinity in a comprehensive, authentic way.

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in dynamic with their parents with women with other men with work the idea of being successful and making money and having a material things and kind of that drive from where they are to where they want to be if that's confusing men but it seems to be a lot of confusion for men on who men are supposed to be in the world how they can have a peaceful harmonious life while also prosper and have a beautiful relationship

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He didn't respond physically or verbally. Maybe there was some shock or some, oh, the show must go on.

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You may leave that job in six months, or you may create a different decision, but yeah.

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Everything could have been lost. Is there anything you'd go to jail for?

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And get married and build a family and all these different things. It just seems confusing for men. What is the root cause of the confusion for men to be who they're meant to be?

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So, you know, if you see someone harming your family and you go into protector mode and... you would do whatever to defend them, even knowing if it sets you in jail for the rest of your life?

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It was Detroit, Metro Detroit. I pull up. So you're at home. She calls you. There's a guy following me. You say, where? Boom. Gun's in. I'm locked and loaded. I'm there. Truck's freaking driving. Ten minutes. Pull up in the gas station.

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However... Like in jiu-jitsu, you're taught not to fight, right? It's like almost... No, you're taught to fight. But it's almost like you're taught to not engage in the fight if you don't have to. That's every martial arts shit. It's like, defuse the situation, get away.

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Yeah, of course. I mean, luckily I didn't have guns on me, but yeah. Because I don't know if I would have.

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To end someone's life or hurt someone badly enough to go to jail forever. Yeah, one punch.

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If a man doesn't have the qualities, the characteristics of a comprehensive man to protect and provide, and he tries to enter in a relationship with a woman and get into a serious committed relationship,

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In your perspective, in your experience of working with so many men, what will typically happen if a man never learns to protect and provide, whether it be physically, financially, spiritually, emotionally, whatever it might be, what will happen to that relationship for the woman? It won't make it.

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But what about women that are like, you know what? I'm making good money. I've got a high paying salary. I can provide for myself and for both of us. So I don't need him to provide because he gives me other things. He's kind to me. He's nice to me. He's considerate. He's a gentleman. He's thoughtful. He's the lover. He brings all these amazing, he's good to me and my family.

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We tap into something extremely powerful today, a conversation about what it truly means to be not a masculine man, but a comprehensive man. And in his new book, he explores the 10 vital characteristics that men need to master to show up fully in their lives, and we discuss them throughout this episode.

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I know some... You're like, I want to be a stay-at-home dad and I want to just... be there for my kids, and she's got an amazing job, so she can go make money all day.

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Do you think most women can accept that if their man isn't financially providing?

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But if the woman is in protector and provider mode. If she's in it and he is not in stepping into his comprehensive protector provider mode, not masculine, but comprehensive protector provider mode. Have you seen a relationship work where the woman is in protector provider and the man is not?

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Why are men lazy today? Not all men, obviously, but why does this feel like a society of more lazy men than more hardworking men?

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Gotcha. What do you think is the number one thing that holds men back from being their most authentic, highest versions of themselves? Fear of how they'll be perceived. Really?

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Man, it's so hard for people, though. Because in a world of people-pleasing, that's really hard to do.

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You have one son, right? Yes. What's your biggest fear as a father with your son?

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And getting shot at, getting, you know, whatever.

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And you probably just see the worst of society as a police officer, which has got to be traumatizing every day. You're probably on guard. Even when you do a routine stop, you know.

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What do you think is your ultimate purpose in this life from this moment until the moment you die?

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I can do it too. For the women watching right now who maybe are watching or maybe a friend of them sent this video or this audio because they said, hey, you should listen to these two guys talk about this.

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Maybe they've been more closed off emotionally, or maybe they've struggled being vulnerable in front of the man in their life, or the man in their father, their husband, their boyfriend, the man in their life that they're the closest with. they've struggled letting go and surrendering those emotions. It sounds like Nicole had kind of anger emotions as well.

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She wasn't as able to receive you being vulnerable or being open, I guess, right?

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She wasn't able to see your heart fully open up and have a range of transparency, like you said, right? And if there's women watching or listening that... are used to the paradigm of men need to protect and provide and not show those emotions in front of me. What is available on the other side if that woman or those women can start to allow their man to fully be open?

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Because sometimes women will say, I wish he would show his emotions. I wish he would be more vulnerable. I wish he would cry. I wish he would express himself. But then when they see that side of the man, they're like, what are you doing? And they're like, oh, that's not a turn on. That's a turn off. Or it looks a little weak.

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I know I'm supposed to like this, but I don't like it because I've been conditioned for my life. that my dad didn't do that, or I don't know anyone who shows their emotions that way. What's available for women who accept the man to be transparent with his emotions in front of her consistently? What's available on the other side?

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Here's the real question then. For women who have been hurt by men in their lives over and over again, their father, ex-boyfriends, and let down by men consistently, lied to, cheated on, manipulated,

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promised something and then under delivered the men in their lives have hurt them and let them down over and over again how can women who have been hurt that much by men learn to love men again learn to trust men again learn to trust themselves when they're with men when they've been let down consistently over and over by their father or the previous men they've been with and they've never really found a good man you know

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For anyone watching or listening right now, I want you to share this with one man or one woman in your life that you care about, that you think could just have an interesting conversation with. Send this to them and say, hey, what opened up to you? What inspired you? What resonated? What didn't resonate? Let's talk about it. Let's have a discussion about this.

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Because I think the way we can just all improve is to have these types of conversations and hear different perspectives. So share this with one person and then ask them to share back with you their biggest takeaway from this conversation with Jason Wilson. The man the moment demands. Master the 10 characteristics of a comprehensive man.

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Again, if you're a woman watching and you're in a relationship with a man, get them this book and send them this video. Have them connect with what I think are two masculine looking guys. And maybe they'll resonate with us based on what we've accomplished, our success and the way we look.

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And hopefully this will resonate in some way because we both suffered emotionally, physically, spiritually and financially in our lives. And I would say that we both found peace and freedom on the other side of going through the fire of all the crap and finding healing.

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Because at the core of all this is finding healing. And you talk about the tree of emotions, the tree of trauma. And, you know, if you want to become free, you have to heal the trauma. And no one wants to talk about that. I mean, people, we hear it a lot. I talk about it all the time. But no one wants to get to the root of it. the pain because it's so painful. Absolutely.

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You have to uproot the tree. It's not enjoyable. It's not an enjoyable process.

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Yeah, and become strong. And people don't, it's not easy, but it's worth it. And so I want people to get the book. It's very powerful. Follow Jason Wilson as well. He's the director of the Cave of a Dullam Transformational Training Academy, which is inspiring. Make sure to check that out. You're also on social media, Mr. Jason Wilson, all over Facebook, Instagram, social media, mrjasonwilson.com.

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And the book is out right now at the moment of this being out there. So make sure you guys get a copy. Give it to the men in your life. If you're a woman, you're going to want to read this as well because you're going to want to understand, hmm, is my man actually living up to these things or not? Yes. Or what is the things that I really want in a partner if I'm single, if I'm a single woman?

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the characteristics and start assessing the men that you're going on dates with oh is is he to live is he embodying this or on the journey there's not many men are going to be perfect at all ten of these let me know that's possible but hey is he on the journey of this see do i see that he's working on these things is he living into this not does he have the potential but is he on the journey of living this already absolutely because i think you've got to yes

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You know, men have potential to become greater at all times. But if you're meeting a man at the first moment and he doesn't want to grow, it's hard to just hope that he's going to live into his potential in the near future. That's true. That's very good. He's got to be on that journey right now. You can't just say, well, I know he has the potential, so it's going to happen one day.

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It may never happen the time you want it, right? It's like we all have the opportunity to do it, but it takes timing for some. It's got to be the right timing, the right triggers, traumas for others, breakdowns. Like things got to happen sometimes. Restaurantees, the right mentors. All of it. All of it.

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You know, the funny thing is I wrote The Mask of Masculinity for men, but more women read it. But the men that do read it, it's like transformational for them, right? It's like, wow, I am realizing all the things where I was wounded and I'm healing and growing and all these things. But you always hear these things about like women having this list for when they're single.

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And they write down a list of like all the things they want in a man. I want him to be tall and make money and successful and make me laugh. Like all these kind of things of a list. If you want the real list, write down these 10 characteristics. If you want to have a thriving relationship, not a superficial, good-looking relationship on social media where you think he looks good on paper.

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You want to have him living up to these 10 characteristics. Make a list of these 10. Then you can add, yeah, he's a funny personality or he's outgoing or he likes to travel and he likes adventure and he likes dogs, whatever. But he likes all those things, but he lacks the ability to provide. He lacks the ability to protect. He lacks the ability to be a lover, a friend, father, a son.

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If he lacks the ability to step into those things, because that's not what he wants. then you are going to struggle in that relationship. After a few years, you're going to say, why is he not stepping into this? Why is he not living into this embodiment of a comprehensive man? The man that I dream of being with as a woman, right?

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And if you can write down that as your list, and when you're going on dates, start asking yourself, is he living into this? Is he being a gentleman? Is he being chivalrous? Is he being his word? Is he living into these characteristics?

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You will live a much more harmonious and joyful relationship than a fun, chemically bonded relationship that has great sex or looks good on social media but suffers silently in the background. So write these down, ladies, as your list when you go out there and look for the guy you want to date. You see what I'm saying?

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I'm just trying to be the man the moment demands, you know? You're doing it. Try to be that. You're doing it. Not always perfect, but try to. It's about perfection. It's about just practicing it. Appreciate it.

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Yeah, man. I've asked you this before. about the three truths in the previous interview. So I'm going to have people go watch our previous episode to get that answer. But I want to ask you your definition of greatness one more time to see if it's different from the last time. You probably don't remember. I don't remember, but... I was just kind of curious where you're at after writing this book.

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Through this raw and honest discussion, we dive deep into why so many men struggle with emotional expression, the difference between being masculine and being comprehensive, and how to authentically heal from past trauma.

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And before I do, Jason, I want to acknowledge you, man, for constantly being of service. You know, I was at Mass this last weekend with Martha and the, I don't know, what do they call it at Mass? I'm new to Mass, but I don't know if it's a preacher or a pastor. I'm not a Catholic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's more Martha's thing, but I go to support her. But there's great wisdom there and great messages.

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Yeah. Preacher, the pastor, I don't know what you call it at Mass, but person giving the messages of the day. He said, you know, a lot of people in life today are trying to understand their purpose and they don't know what their purpose is. And they're living in fear or they're depressed or these different things because they're not clear on what their purpose is.

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And he said, there are some individuals in this church who I am not going to ask the question because I know that they know. But I'm going to ask these two kind of teenage kids that was sitting next to him, near him, to come up and answer, what is our purpose? So we had these kids come and teach the congregation. He said, OK, what is your purpose?

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And they said, to know God, to love God, and to serve God. And I want to acknowledge you for living into that purpose fully, for embracing it and for knowing God, loving God, and being of service, and mentoring so many people in the world who need a messenger and a mentor that they can believe in, that they can trust, and that they can live up to the message of.

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So I acknowledge you for stepping into that. And I continue to encourage and nudge you into your greatest fears and God, I believe what you're possible for the next phase as well. So I appreciate it, brother. But final question, what's your definition of greatness?

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Do you think women can fully embrace a fully comprehensive man? Absolutely.

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And I guess to follow up with that, what is, if people aren't intentionally living a life of service, What is happening to those individuals if they're not thinking, I'm here to serve? Whether it's through their gifts and talents or their art or sport, if they're not thinking service mentality and they're thinking self mentality, what are they creating for themselves?

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Thank you so much for listening to this episode. If you enjoyed this and if you found value, make sure to share this with one friend. Just copy and paste the link and text a friend where you feel would be truly inspired by this episode as well.

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And also make sure to click the follow button on Apple or Spotify wherever you're listening to this episode because we have a massive episode coming up next that I do not want you to miss. So make sure to follow this and be inspired on the lookout for the next episode coming with some massive content and guests. Also, I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you wanna make it easier, you wanna make it flow, you wanna feel abundant, then make sure to go to MakeMoneyEasyBook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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But what if his woman isn't accepting him for his comprehensive emotion, his range of emotion? It's his blessing. She's like, what are you doing? That's not attractive to me. That's a turnoff. Like, don't act weak around me. She just confirmed that she's not the right one for you.

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Passive aggressive or just... It would just explode.

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Yeah, yeah. So when I was able to do that... She didn't understand the language of composure.

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Jason's going to share valuable stories from his own journey of transformation, including how his marriage evolved when he learned to express his full range of emotions when his marriage was almost to the point of failure and ending.

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So I'm sitting in the car. That doesn't feel good. No, oh, it was.

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Why did you stay on it and not return to the... single-minded man that you once were, you know, without the range of expression?

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And whether you're a man wanting to step more fully into your authentic self or a woman seeking to understand the men in your life, this episode offers game changing insights on modern masculinity.

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No, at the car. Oh, at the car? What age range was this?

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Welcome back my friend. I have been quietly away for this past month. I've been in Spain actually and I haven't been posting what I've been up to but I'm going to be sharing everything I've been up to behind the scenes here very soon. I'm going to be talking about it on social media on Instagram all my social channels and I'm going to be launching a new YouTube channel to actually show

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So we need that time, that space to pursue those things. And I get it. A lot of us have responsibilities. We don't have all day, all month, all year to do everything we want. But you do have some time. And when you start taking those action steps, nights, weekends, holidays, whatever it might be, on the thing that your heart speaks to you about, man, life just gets so much richer.

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He was like, I put up all the money, I put up all the risk, I put up, I- You're a snotty nosed 19 year old kid when I met you.

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Yeah, I mean, I worked odd jobs like in college and after college, but I was like a truck driver. I was like a bouncer at a nightclub.

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You do so many different jobs. You see what other people on your team are working on. You're collaborating a lot more and you hopefully become more resourceful.

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And usually, you know, the team is all talking about what they're working on together. Or like, hey, we're after this big project for the next few months. So we've got this launch. And we're all working on this together. And what do you need? And what do you need? It's more of like a team effort.

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So how come someone who launches a business, let's say they get to $100,000 or they get to a million in revenue after a few years? How can someone think to themselves and act in a way where they can generate double, triple, quadruple the revenue without feeling like they have to do double, triple or quadruple the work? How can they really, because when we launch something, it takes all of us.

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But when we get to the next level, it takes a different part of us that we haven't developed.

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And I want you to live a richer life. That's what this is all about. It's about creating abundance in our life. And we've got a powerful episode today with a wealth expert, someone who's lived a rich life. And he's actually talking about that there's more to life than money and business success and how to really create a fulfilling life in a ever-changing world. His name is Daniel Priestley.

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But I've heard you talk about the dying economy versus the new economy. What is the dying economy and what is the new economy coming?

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He's one of UK's top entrepreneurs and successful business builders with seven thriving companies. And he breaks down the myth that entrepreneurs have to be exhausting themselves and shows how following a certain principles can dramatically increase your chances of success. He also shares his strategic frameworks with a refreshing perspective on wealth and fulfillment from other areas of life.

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We have an annual conference called Summit of Greatness for the last nine years, but I also speak around.

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I mean, for the first 10 years of like running my business or businesses, I guess, I was doing that constantly to the point where I had, I don't know, 15 different revenue streams within a business. And it got to the point where about five years ago I felt like I was a seven out of a 10 with everything. Because I was doing too many things. And it was almost like this fast action loop.

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Yeah, everything was exciting and I took every opportunity which, led to me getting to a certain level financially and opportunity wise. But then I didn't feel like I was able to break through because I was spreading my time, bouncing around thing to thing every day to the next internal project. That, wow, there's money here. Let's go do this. And people need, there's a need, there's a problem.

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And it's something I'm interested in. And I like this too. And I like that too. And I'm passionate. Yeah. So do it all. But that only works for so long until you get kind of burnt out and resentful of your business.

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I'm kind of at that point where I'm, ready to attract the next bigger things. Maybe it starts small and it scales. I'm ready to take on. And it doesn't mean ready in the next day. If it's a year from now, cool. I'm ready when it feels like this is alignment. And it doesn't mean it's going to work.

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But it's like, yeah, this feels like it has the potential to really be exciting, be sustainable energy, renewable energy, serve and impact people in a meaningful way and bringing in meaningful revenue where it's like a win-win-win.

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Again, If you're trying to make more money, but you feel like, ah, this money has been stressing me out or I'm just working so hard and it's so hard to make the money, this is going to give you tools and a different framework on how to scale that time that you're putting into your business, your career, and also make sure you're having a life worth living outside of money.

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Yeah. And I'm like, I'm right at that stage where, you know, I feel like we're ready to do that. But it has to be the right opportunity. And we're also, I mean, I'm turning down a lot of financial opportunities that are big. Just not the right fit. But I'm like, ah, it just seems like too much of my time. Yep. I'm like, that's not scalable. Yep.

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And if I'm just doing it for a certain amount of money for the next six to 12 months. That's not where you're at right now. So much of my time, I'm like... It just doesn't feel right.

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It's huge. And it's hard to turn down money. You don't want to turn down financial opportunity in a world of just money as a tool to support you in your lifestyle.

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Yeah. And listen... I'm all for like creating incredible financial wealth. I'm all for it. Like if it comes to me over my lifetime, great. I want to be like a steward of that wealth and I hopefully want to do the right things with it to serve in the right way with that money. Not just for me alone and my family, which, yes, I want to provide and create experiences that are unforgettable moments.

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That doesn't mean you need lots of money all the time to create these unforgettable moments with family and to feel like you're living a healthy lifestyle with the right foods and having the right housing and, you know, you don't need... So like tens of millions of dollars to live a good life.

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Yeah. I mean, it's just kind of like, what is the, what is the end goal? You know, how much money will make you feel like you are enough? And what number did you arrive at? For me? I don't think I've arrived at the number because it's not like when I'm a billionaire, then I've made it. Or when I've exited a company for nine figures, then I'll be enough.

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I have, I've, you're enough is already the enough is built in. I feel enough right now. And I'm so grateful and blessed for the abundance that's come to my life for the, the peace I have internally for the health that I currently have for my marriage, for, you know, Everything that I'm creating and the opportunity to wake up another day, I'm blessed.

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Because it doesn't matter how much money you have in the bank or how much net worth you have. If you don't enjoy your life, you aren't living a rich life. There's so much in this episode. I hope you enjoy it. Make sure to share it with a friend as well. Tag me over on social media. Let me know that you're listening to this or that you're watching it. I'm so grateful for you.

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And there's so many people that I've met or I've known who have struggled so much and they have all the money in the world. So if all the money in the world isn't going to create inner peace and fulfillment, then what's the point? That's a great point. I'm not saying don't go after building extreme wealth if that's something you're excited about.

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but at what cost, what price, and are you going to have regrets that like, oh, I wish I would have spent, you know, another 10 years building more companies to make more money and become a higher net worth millionaire instead of becoming a self-worth millionaire. Yeah. And how can I develop more love, more peace, more inner expansion rather than focus on external expansion?

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And there's, again, I'm not saying there's a right or wrong, good or bad.

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And I hope this has been a friendly reminder that you deserve a rich and abundant life. And it just takes some shifting in the way you think, how you act, and how you feel about what you have and where you're heading. Daniel, welcome to the show. Very excited that you're here on the School of Greatness. Thank you for having me on the show. Very excited.

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Holding it as opposed to investing and risking and putting it out there. And how many people do you know who've exited eight, nine, 10-figure businesses that then go depressed within weeks after having all this money in the bank. It's almost like you hear more stories of billionaires exiting companies who are depressed for two years than people who are like, I've made it and life's amazing now.

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Kind of like a lifestyle documentary behind the scenes of a big dream that I've been working on and pursuing. And I'm so excited about it. There's been a lot of exciting moments. There's been a lot of downs as well. Some highs and lows all mixed up in this past month. And I just want to remind you that whatever dream you have, it's worth pursuing. It's worth going after.

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You've got a lot of success as an entrepreneur, one of UK's top entrepreneurs, money experts, and I believe you have seven successful businesses right now. I'm not sure how many unsuccessful businesses you've developed. But for people in America, The stats are crazy with the failure rate around businesses. Within the first year, I think it's over 20% of businesses fail.

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And how do you know that you should break through to 30 plus or stay under 12?

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Not that I can think of, but I'm just thinking of how it could be weird. Because you kept it under 12. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. It's like, I don't think that's ever happened. Unless it happened without my knowledge.

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So, I mean, you got to go from 12 to 30. Like, how do you do that so quickly so that you're in more of a high performance business rather than a lifestyle boutique? The fastest I ever did it was three days. How? Oh, if you just acquire a company that has a team of 20 people.

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By year five, it's over 50% of failure. And it just seems really hard. It's easy to launch a business, but it seems hard to make a business profitable where you're actually able to save money, invest money, And even the 50% of businesses that don't fail within five years, it doesn't mean they're thriving. No. It doesn't mean you're not grinding 80 to 100 hours a week to just keep the doors open.

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That's interesting. So how many of your businesses out of the seven that you have currently are lifestyle businesses versus?

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And that is kind of like clockwork. You know that, hey, I can only get to 3 to 5 million with 10 people. Maybe it gets to 10 if I'm lucky, but it's like we really have to scale. I learned that from the Army.

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That's pretty exciting. The challenging thing is, you know, I've heard you say, and I've been a big proponent of building a personal brand for, since day one, since 2008 when I started joining, right? It's like, I learned about personal brand end of 2007 when I started getting into like online entrepreneurship and learning about the digital world and what was coming in social media. Yeah.

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You're managing stress of employees coming and going, onboarding, training processes, products failing, all this stuff. How can someone watching or listening right now who has no desire to be an entrepreneur or run a business be convinced that starting a business isn't going to exhaust or kill them? Or if someone's not interested in starting a business, how can they

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And so I've been a big fan of that from the beginning. That was the year Facebook launched. You were super early. Yeah, I mean, I was on Facebook when it was just for college. I remember when our college... Oh, sorry, 2004, yeah, it was Facebook. 2004 was college. I was in college, and it was like, oh, we're about to get Facebook. Like, it's the next wave of schools.

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I opened a YouTube channel in 2007. Posted my first video in 2007. Wow. I was on LinkedIn in the end of 2007 when it was like, I don't know, 8 million people. It was very small. And I wrote a book about LinkedIn. I was one of the first people to write a book about LinkedIn in 2009 about how to build relationships in the digital world and then take them in the physical world.

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And I was hosting networking events all around the country. Awesome. LinkedIn networking events in 2009-2010, and I was using the platform to drive people to the events.

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That's cool. Exactly. And it was like... All these new events were popping up because it was like tweet-ups and meet-ups and blog world. Gary Vaynerchuk came along and we were all like, wow, this guy. Exactly. And I met Gary Vaynerchuk in 2009. Similar. And Tim Ferriss and all these different people. Yes. Before our work group. Before our work group.

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It's kind of like, there's almost like this new wave of how to create this lifestyle, entrepreneurship.

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Now here's the thing, with AI coming, and it seems like more and more content creators are doing these things to put their message out there, to build awareness, to create more touch points, to have communities and audiences. And it seems like content creation is on the rise. Podcasting is on the rise. Vlogging is on the rise. It is. Short form content. AI tools are churning it out.

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And AI tools are helping people amplify their message. The challenge is if everyone's doing it and the tools are more and more accessible, how do you stand out in a noise, in a sea of personal brands now? Like how do you really

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Yeah, I think, yeah. When you got into business, I mean, you were with a guy who was 20 years older than you who was successful and who taught you the ropes.

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double, triple, quadruple their income, whether through investing or some other element.

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Yeah, that's cool. I think you mentioned that there were five things that you need to do to build key person of interest also. And I think we only talked about two of them, right?

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Okay, that's what it is. So those are the big five. There you go. Yeah. Here's the thing that everyone's talking about, which is AI.

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and everyone's talking about it, people are starting to test it, part of me feels like it's gonna be the biggest thing ever and part of me feels like it could be the biggest distraction for people ever because there's always gonna be a new tool, a new software, a new plugin, a new something that solves some problem, right?

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So how do people actually make money in an AI world when everything it seems like you can get for free? And if you launch an idea, someone else is going to launch it for free when you're trying to charge a premium membership for it. And they're going to be 10 times better than your thing. And AI is just going to keep evolving.

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How do you stay focused when it is evolving so fastly and everyone has access to it?

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Things didn't happen 50 years ago, 60 years ago. It's like you're just working outside all day.

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And it's actually in particular... If you're not focused in like how are we using this to grow and achieve our goals, you're just like, let me try this new thing and this new tool.

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What's the greatest fear you have? I mean, you've got three kids. They're about to be, you know, some in their teen years in a few years.

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What's the fear you have around where they will be in society and how to set them up for success and be more creators versus consumers when it is so easily in an adolescent brains to do what your friends are doing and want to be on social media because they're on it and then that leads to just more consume, consume, And then reflection of how can I look better?

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How can I become more, you know, good looking in the world and get more validation, more attention and go down that slippery road.

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It seems like school is kind of irrelevant in what they're teaching these days.

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I was like, generalist. It's British Australian, so I apologize. Yeah, yeah. Now, as a parent... what are the three things you wish they taught in school moving forward in the school systems? If you could only teach three things, what do you wish all kids could learn over the next decade?

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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It's worth taking the next step. It's worth seeing how far you can take it. And it's really not about whether you accomplish the goal or not, but who you become on that journey, who you're becoming through all the adversity and the pursuit of that thing. And if you feel like you've just been kind of

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It doesn't. It's like they might say, yeah, this is some cool, interesting idea. Here's my email.

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opted in as a wait list, said, I'd be interested if this product was out there. And this is a software?

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on this hamster wheel of doing the same thing over and over again and you haven't been exploring the parts of you or the parts of your mind or your heart or your soul that are telling you to work on that art project that you have or create music or publish a book or whatever it might be or just go travel, I encourage you and I empower you to start taking those steps.

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Why, when you have seven businesses, would you even want to launch new businesses? Why not just say, hey, let's double down on the business that we're making. They're already making seven, eight figures. Let's get them to nine figures. As opposed to putting all this time, energy, resources, thinking, hiring, recruiting to say, let's launch some new idea and put out a...

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a minimum viable product and scale it from there and then hire teams around the world and manage those teams and create processes. Why not just 10X the businesses you have?

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Yeah, if you're like a design company, like how do we build AI within this? Exactly. Be a software or a tool that we could sell as a standalone product versus a service.

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But how do you find great people to hire for your team?

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And a lot of times we feel stuck or trapped is because we're just doing things that we're we're not fully excited about. And if you do those things all the time that you're not excited about and you never have time on the weekends or nights or take those holiday trips to actually pursue those things on the side, then you're going to feel like you're stuck and like you're burnt out.

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And if you only did these three things, you could set yourself up for a lot of success. What would those things be?

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I want those three things to have a good- A lot of entrepreneurs launch something that they're not passionate about, but they see an opportunity to make a lot of money. Yeah. Is there anything, what's the downside of that approach or thinking?

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There are two big things happening at one time that I've never done before. I'm going on a book tour for my new book, Make Money Easy, and I'm doing a podcast tour at the same time. It is going to be big and I'm going to seven cities in 10 days. Get your friends, get your family, bring everyone you know to these cities. I'm coming to Austin, Texas, New York, Boston. We're going to Nashville.

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Yeah, you save a lot of money.

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Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have an extremely inspiring human being. His name is Mark Pentecost. And we're gonna be talking about the seven steps to achieve your wildest dreams. Because like you said before we jumped in here, a lot of people feel stuck, they feel trapped, they feel overwhelmed on the stresses of life.

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This is fascinating. So what do you think, again, you said, what would it look like to buy a golf course? And what, what was the year around this when this happened? We moved down, would have been like 20, 2010, 2012. Okay, so 15 years ago, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you have this idea, I'm going to move out of this state, I'm going to go to Florida, and I'm also going to buy a golf course. Yeah.

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And I'm going to move the whole company, I'm going to do this. I have this crazy dream, this vision. Yeah. And you're really trying to enroll yourself. You're asking other people, but you're enrolling you in the vision. Yeah. And something you've known your whole life, I'm in Michigan, and this is what I know, but what would it look like?

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if we bought a golf course, if we moved to Florida, if it's warm, you know, 24 seven, if it's, and also you're like, how do I take my business to the next level financially? How much did taking that risk of moving the whole company to Florida, buying a golf course, spending money on all these different things, how much did that unlock new levels of financial success for you and your business?

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And they don't know if their dreams are even possible. They don't know how to dream, how to take action on their dreams. And you have this fascinating story. You went from being a high school teacher and a coach for over a decade and a half to becoming a millionaire, then a billionaire entrepreneur, a nationally recognized philanthropist, a world-renowned thought leader.

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And no one had that, so you had to build it. Yeah. You had to create it yourself, essentially. Yeah. Yeah. We're talking about your book, which is really inspiring, Life of Your Dreams, How to Take Your Family, Fund, and Financial Freedom to a Whole Nother Level.

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By Mark Pentecost. And your story is fascinating. Just how you have transformed the American dream into a reality and created so many dreams for others is really inspiring. And you have a seven-step process for creating and accomplishing your dreams. Mm-hmm. Can you walk through what those seven steps are? Yeah.

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aren't dreaming or maybe their dreams are just like so far out there that they're not even willing to start taking steps towards them. It seems so far away. And I like the idea. You're like, how can I just make an extra $500 a month? That would be life changing right now. Yeah. And maybe your dream is to be a millionaire one day.

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And so you can have that dream and that thought, but really like, how do I get to 500 extra dollars a month now?

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I remember. I grew up in the 80s. Thank you.

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And throughout your life, you've learned from past experiences and being the founder of It Works, which is a wellness company across more than 20 countries. You generated over $750 million in one year with this business, and you're doing so much good in the world.

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And now... I'm a math teacher. I'm a teacher. I can see myself like him. If he could do it, maybe I could do it.

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Yeah, exactly. She's like, this is what I want. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it works. Wow. Yeah. It's powerful. Okay. So we got say it and see it. Yep. Can you ever say something too much about a dream and to where you might have the feeling of it and then not want to take the actions? Yeah. Or can you not say it enough about your dream to people?

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And for many years, you were a teacher and a coach, probably making a teacher's salary and a coach's salary, which isn't that much, back in the, I'm assuming, 80s, 70s, 80s, 90s, things like that. Then you have a dream, a dream to do something different with your life. Yeah. And this is at a time when technology wasn't the easiest like it is today. It was hard to get the message out back then.

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You couldn't see that far ahead. No, exactly. So you needed to go from 500 to then 1,000 to 10,000 and see like, oh, how do I just get to that level before I go to having a ranch and an island and a golf course and a billion dollar business?

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What was the biggest risk that you took that you feel was actually, you knew it was the wrong action to take, but you said, well, I'm just winning anyways. I'm going to do it. It's going to work out. But you're like, ah, I didn't trust my gut or I didn't trust my team or I tried to go against what I knew I should have done.

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Was there a risk that was too big that you were like, ah, my ego got in the way? Yeah.

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And you started building something in the Midwest. Unfortunately, this was Michigan. I'm from Ohio. But even if you could do it from Michigan, you know?

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And you might like someone in that starting five that's not performing and they're not being encouraging and they've got a negative attitude and they're going to have to sit on the bench. Yeah, exactly. And it's painful.

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I know that feeling. Too many lessons I've had. I still need to learn that lesson, but that's interesting. Okay, so living on the offense, playing to win, not playing on defense all the time. And maybe there are seasons where you need to play defense, but you've got to get back to playing on offense. What would be number four then?

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You did something incredible. And you overcame so many odds. And I want to ask you... You know, if you could go back to that time when you were a teacher and a coach and you started dreaming differently, what was the biggest fear you had then that you had to overcome? Because I think a lot of people have this fear, insecurity or self-doubt. And I'm assuming you had some as well.

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That's amazing. What were you thinking about when you were experiencing extreme levels of stress, whether it be family, personal stress, or business stress? How did you learn to mentally or emotionally navigate stress and So that you weren't playing on defense, but you could still stay in a leadership, visionary mind and play on offense.

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Because a lot of people, when they feel stressed, they feel stuck, they contract, they freeze, and you're unable to... be like this joyful energy that's like creative and thinking. So how did you get to that mindset during times of stress?

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What was the biggest fear and how did you overcome it?

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Then we're going to Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Francisco. Make sure to get your tickets right now. Go to lewishouse.com slash tour. Again, bring everyone you know. If you're looking to create more financial freedom and abundance to your life, and you want to see a massive guest live on the School of Greatness show, Get your tickets. I can't wait to see you there.

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So then, so the, the big fear, how are you able to overcome the fear? Because again, you knew something for so long. You knew how to be a teacher and a coach. You knew how to overcome the fear of motivating young kids probably to overcome their challenges, but launching a business, you didn't know how to do that. Right. Let alone getting it to a billion dollars.

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It sounds like your greatest, your darkest moments and the scariest moments and you overcoming them and giving, and it's almost like your cancer diagnosis and the challenge of that, you've had to go all in on finding like how to recover and how to overcome it, that you've invested in different therapies that other people, you're saving people's literal lives and

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because of some of the biggest challenges that you've been through.

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So not only are you able to impact people's life financially with freedom, with the ability to dream more, to get out of debt and all the things you do through your business and give people healthy products to improve their life, all that stuff, but also as sucky as it sounds and as horrible as it is, you going through this situation is also making an impact on people's lives based on how you respond to it.

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And so again, I'm, I'm really sad you're going through this and it's extremely unfortunate, but I'm also glad to know your mindset is I'm going to, I'm going to overcome this. I'm going to find solutions and I'm going to help other people that are going through something like this. I think that's the only mindset we can have.

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Like what was the biggest anxiety and fear and how did you overcome it? Or were you just so naive that you're like, I'm just going to figure it out and I'm not afraid of anything.

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We're talking about Life of Your Dreams, your book. Again, it's really powerful lessons and steps that we're talking about here. And really, there's seven kind of key steps to achieving your dreams. What would you say? We talked about Get Back Up, which is number four. What would be number five on this process?

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And really making sure you're finding people, the ultimate level of finding someone as someone who's encouraging, who's also done something before that you need that support with. Yeah. At least find someone encouraging who hasn't done it.

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But if they've done it and they're encouraging, you want them on your team.

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I can relate to that a lot because playing sports, every time I would win a game, it'd be on to the next. It was never like, not even a moment. Maybe in the locker room, we're like, okay, good game. Like, let's get ready for the next one. Or you're thinking. You're thinking it, right? And the same thing in business. I translated it to business as like, just wanted to create more.

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Okay, now we're on the momentum. Let's just keep going. But it was never like... You know, it's a Friday night, man. We had a great week. Let's look, let's go to dinner. Let's go watch a game. Let's go bowl. Let's do something. It doesn't have to be like, it's so extravagant. It can be free, but also just celebrating the moment and really acknowledging and reflecting, man, what was that?

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Like, again, I just got married last weekend and all week we have been celebrating and like reliving it. Yeah. I've really tried to soak it in and be like asking people, what was your favorite moment? And just looking at videos and yeah. As opposed to, okay, on to the next thing. You know, it's like, let's enjoy this celebration.

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One day, you'll be like, yeah, that's amazing. Okay, so celebrate your wins. I think a lot of people, again, when you don't have... When you can't even have the ability to dream, you're living in survival or stuck mode. You're probably not celebrating survival mode, right? You're probably not celebrating, I'm stressed out at work. I've got no money to pay my bills.

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There's nothing to celebrate in life. If someone's watching or listening right now that feels stuck in debt, they're not getting the momentum. They're not feeling like they're alive. Mm-hmm. how can they celebrate their life when they're in that state of being?

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Okay. Did we miss step seven? Did I miss it?

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Yeah. Interesting. Okay. So you said there's an extra step, an extra credit step. What's the secret sauce?

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This is interesting. I ask a lot of billionaires and people who have exited hundreds of millions of dollars of companies and things like that. I ask a lot of wealthy people. uh, this question and I'm curious your response.

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I think I know the answer based on how you're already speaking about it, but how impactful is the growth of your business year after year based on how much you give to either charities, churches, people, causes, do you see a direct impact on how much you give or the energy in which you give and the growth of your business?

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How does someone get into that giving or generosity mindset when they have no money, when they're struggling, they're living paycheck to paycheck, they're in student loans, they're... working two to three jobs, their kids are, you know, constantly crying and they can't seem to get people to like relax and they got no time for themselves. How do they give in that state?

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What is the, you know, you are a coach for many years to students, but also to athletes. You're still a coach. You still coach basketball, I think today, is that right? Yeah. And you coach your, you know, your executive team, your sales team, like you coach the people in your business. You've always been a coach, essentially. You coach your kids, all this stuff. Yeah.

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Who was the greatest coach you had and what was the biggest lesson they taught you growing up?

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So different seasons of life, different mentors, the right teachers, you know. When the student is ready, the teacher appears, right? That's what I was saying? Yes. Who's your greatest teacher today?

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Who's the pastor? Jensen. Jensen? Yeah. What's the biggest lesson he's been teaching you?

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Yeah. We're talking about the life of your dreams, your book, and I want everyone to get this book, but there's something I'm learning in the last few years, and I'm already getting kind of emotional just thinking about it, that I feel like you've experienced.

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And I'm just assuming here, because this is the first time we're meeting and I don't know your full life story, but I'm assuming the person you chose to be your life partner, your wife has been a massive impact in your life and has supported you in pursuing your dreams. And it's the number one person you need on your team is your spouse.

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Were you asking him questions? You could see the mistakes he made. He was saying, hey, don't do this. Right. Double down here. Save your money here. He was giving you some of that coaching.

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That could be your dream supporter or your biggest cheerleader or your dream killer.

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A lot of people have dream killers of their spouse, but they still love fully and they've got to overcome that. What is the thing about your wife that you love the most and the greatest lesson she's given you?

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Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. No, definitely. Okay, so having the model and the mentor really supported you early on.

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Oh, cause then she's going to say, go out every night.

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Like keep doing the love language. Don't do it a few times and say, Oh, now I'm good.

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So what's the secret after 47 years of marriage and going from a high school teacher and a coach to building a billion dollar empire and having healthy kids that still want to be around you as adults. What's the three keys to having a healthy marriage for 47 plus years?

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That's beautiful. I love that. You've got so much wisdom. I don't know about that. You've got so much wisdom, so much life experience, and you share so much of it in your book, Life of Your Dreams, How to Take Your Family, Fun, and Financial Freedom to a Whole Nother Level by Mark Pentecost. I want everyone to get this right now.

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Because, um, again, I'm always a fan of the reason I love doing this show, the school of greatest and interviewing people like yourself is that I can always learn from someone on how to model something that I want, you know? And this for me is like, I get free mentorship, you know, it's like I get to mentorship, but then I get to give that to the world where most people don't have access to you.

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There's not many interviews of you online. This is a book that has all your life's knowledge in one place that people can have access to.

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And people don't understand how powerful that is, to have the wisdom, the knowledge, the lessons of someone who's gone through extreme adversity, someone who's built incredible life, massive business, and someone who lived like most of the country as a teacher, as a coach, making 40 grand a year, and was able to get out of that. And create a whole nother life for themselves.

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So I want people to get this book. I want people to share this book with a friend. If you know someone in your life that could resonate with this message, send them this link and say, hey, what was the biggest takeaway you got from what Mark was sharing here? And have a conversation and dialogue about your own dream. Yep. And say, what is a dream that has been lost for you?

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What is the dream that you're afraid to talk about? What is the saying again? The dream the most proud is the one you're afraid to say out loud. Like, I would love for you to text that message to one friend right now in your life that you know, maybe they've just been struggling or they got a good life, but it's not an extraordinary one. They're not leaving it all on the field right now.

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That's so interesting because I was just telling you before we got started that I just got married a week ago. Congratulations.

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They're not taking those moves that are a little scary. Yeah. And you can be that accountability partner for your friend, your family member, someone on your team, and text them this quote right now. What's the dream you're most proud that you're afraid to say out loud? Literally just text them that with a link to this episode.

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Say, I want you to listen or watch this and tell me what that dream is afterwards. I think it's a great conversation starter with the people in your life. Yeah. And also follow up by getting a copy of this book, Life of Your Dreams, so that you can go through these seven steps in detail because you have exercises and lessons and stories in the book where people can...

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follow the steps and start going through their own dream cycle. Yeah. And I think that's the key. Step one is just allowing yourself to dream and then re-dream. Not with the real dream.

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Not like, ah, but what's the thing that, ooh, that?

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And we did like a first dance, but it was kind of like something different and it was salsa dancing. And I started salsa dancing, believe it or not, 20 years ago. It's been 20 years since I've been salsa dancing. So I'm actually a pretty decent salsa dancer. But it's funny you say this because back then I was horrible and terrified to learn salsa because it was something that was so foreign to me.

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That feels different when I say it. Yeah. And I think this would be an amazing exercise for everyone watching or listening to text one friend and leave a comment below on YouTube here if you're watching on the video as well on what your biggest takeaway is from this episode. What resonated the most? What stood out the most? Leave a comment, your biggest takeaway with Mark here.

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I've got a couple of final questions for you before we wrap up, Mark. This has been powerful. And I've got tons of other questions here that I'm unable to get to. But I think this has been a beautiful place to talk about right now. You have a virtual summit coming up where you're going to be inspiring people to reawaken their dreams even more. Can you share more a little about this summit?

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And also, you do a lot of charity and giving back. Can you share a little bit about that as well?

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Exciting. We'll have, if you're watching this, we'll have the link up on the screen and we'll put it in the description below where you guys can go watch this. And I believe it's a free summit. Isn't that right? It's free. So you can click, you can sign up. It'll be in the description, in the audio or the video, wherever you're listening to this.

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And what about the charity work that you're a part of right now? I know you give back a lot to research, to things like that for cancer, but how can people learn more about that as well?

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I think I heard that all the proceeds from the book sales are going towards cancer research.

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So again, guys, if you buy a book right now, just knowing that your impact of buying a book to support your life and dreaming bigger, or if you buy a book for yourself and a friend, the proceeds are going to go towards cancer research, which is extremely powerful. So it's a big, big thing that you're doing.

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The music, how people moved. I was just like this tall white jock guy. I was like, how am I going to do this? But I saw a guy, a Latin guy dancing on the dance floor. And I was like, I want to dance like him. So I had a model and then I hired him to do group lessons and private lessons. So then I had a mentor as well. And every time I'd see him out dancing, I was like, show me this move.

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So again, get a copy of Life of Your Dreams, How to Take Your Family, Fund, and Financial Freedom to a whole nother level. You're going to be inspiring your life and the people in your life. You're going to be a model for someone in your life as well about how to live your dreams bigger. And you're going to be helping kids who are struggling with cancer with the proceeds from this book.

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So go get it right now on Amazon or Barnes & Noble or wherever you get your books. I want to acknowledge you, Mark, for an incredible journey that you've lived, but one that you're going to continue to be living for a long time. And acknowledge you for having so much joy in your life and giving back as much as you do. Because a lot of people who could be a millionaire, a billionaire...

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could just make it about them. They could just buy all the fun toys and the gadgets and have more and more and more and have more status and not be as generous as you are. So I want to acknowledge you for your generosity and your playful childlike heart. Because I really think people lose the ability to dream as adults and they forget how to be like childlike energy when they are adults.

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And I acknowledge you for that. And I think that's one of the reasons why you are so successful externally is because internally you have childlike spirit and energy. And it's a beautiful thing to witness. And I acknowledge you for the consistency of showing up for you, your family, your friends, and your community your entire life. It's a beautiful thing to watch.

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And hopefully I'll get to come down to the ranch or the island or the moon, whatever you buy next. Whatever your dream is to buy next and come down and ride some horses or do some fun stuff with you sometime. This is a question I ask everyone at the end. It's called the three truths. So imagine a hypothetical scenario. You get to live as long as you want to live on this earth. Okay.

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Many years in the future, but it's the last day for you. And you get to accomplish all of your wildest dreams. They all come true. Anything you dream and then re-dream and re-dream, it all comes true. Okay. But for whatever reason on this hypothetical scenario on your last day, you have to take all of your message, your content, this book, this interview, it all has to go somewhere else.

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So no one, when you leave this earth, no one has access to your content. Ooh. So just hypothetically, let's just imagine they don't have this book. They don't have any video online of you. You know, we just don't have your content.

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But on the final day, you get to leave a message to the world that we do get to keep. And it's the three lessons that you have. And this is all we would get to keep from you. What would be those three truths for you?

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What do I do here? And so you had a model and a mentor to give you the process.

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That's big. That's beautiful. And Mark, final question for you. What's your definition of greatness?

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Mark, appreciate you being here, man.

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Powerful. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you wanna make it easier, you wanna make it flow, you wanna feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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that speaks to me right now in my life.

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A lot of people might be stuck in a job that they don't, they can't see themselves growing in. Maybe they enjoy the job. It sounds like you enjoy being a teacher and a coach, but making $40,000 a year, you're not creating financial freedom. And you're probably working 60, 80 hours a week doing both. Right.

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And you got kids, you got a family, you got your church, you want to show up in your community. Yeah. So there's not a lot of extra time. Right. And not a lot of extra money. So how did you get out of the mindset of that kind of like, this is what I know. This is what I'm good at. This is what I'm comfortable with.

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How did you get out of the mindset to say, but I've got to give one extra night a week to this side hustle that maybe it works out. Right. And really allow yourself to dream bigger and be more risk-taking and creative because a lot of people don't have that ability. So how did you create that mindset shift to act different than what you knew for 16 plus years?

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The visionary behind it works.

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What did Gretzky say? You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

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And so if you're always playing on defense, like you said, you're never going to have any shots at goal. You never get any shots at the basket. You can't go for the end zone, nothing. So nothing great is going to happen if you're always playing defense in your life. That's a beautiful perspective.

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So you were playing defense for 16 years to try to make sure that you had enough to get by, but you weren't thriving.

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So what were the three things you eliminated from your life when you started going on offense to create the new life of your dreams with the business? Was one of them surrounding yourself with new people? What were those three things you eliminated?

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Interesting. So when you're coming up with ideas for getting yourself out of a stuck situation or breakthrough idea, You'll have, well, you'll just kind of ping ideas off your friends or people in your life, but you're looking for not a good idea, but a whole nother level idea. Yeah. When do you know it's just a good idea versus a whole nother level idea?

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You walk through a seven-step process for creating and accomplishing your dreams.

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Welcome back, my friend. Today is a blessed day. And I'm so grateful that you're here listening to this episode. And if you're looking for the keys to navigating challenging discussions, speaking with control, speaking with confidence, building connections so that you can really elevate your relationships to a whole nother level.

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But if they're yelling or raising their voice or getting frustrated.

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Make sure to get a ticket, bring some friends and family, and I'd love to see you at our event. It'll be a two for one, a book tour, talking about the book, and we're bringing surprise special guests to do an episode of the podcast on each stop as well. So again, go to lewishouse.com slash tour for that. And I am just so grateful for you for being here today. We have a big, big episode.

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And how can someone communicate with someone else to get exactly what they want without being manipulative?

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They want to be the hero. Yeah. And that's when I, you know, when I said that, it was, I feel like these three words are the most powerful words to get anything you want besides I love you. And that's what's the chance. Like we talked about what's the chance. And the more you can come from a mindset of what's the chance you can help me out with this?

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What's the chance I can get an upgrade on this hotel? What's the chance you can get me to first class? What's the chance I can get a discount on this right now? What's the chance you can give me half off? You may not get exactly what you want, but you're creating a playful, open connection with someone. Like you said, what's a chance or I need a miracle.

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Can you help give me a spoon right now so I can eat this ice cream with my kid? You're creating an open heart and a playful way of being to allow for goodness to come to your life. It's not being manipulative, but it's creating an opening for miracles to occur. Even those little mini miracles that just make life enjoyable.

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And if you can say, what's the chance? Or I need a miracle. Can you help me out?

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So let's go ahead and dive in right now. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Excited about our guest. He is back, Jefferson Fisher in the house with a new book called The Next Conversation, Argue Less, Talk More. Very excited about this, man. Welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me back, Lewis. Yeah, man.

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You know what Chris Boss told me after this? What's that? I said, say what's the chance? And I go, what else should I say? And Chris Boss said a really interesting one that's like, it could be a little manipulative. Like it could be like, ah, you're like teetering with manipulation. But it is extremely effective as a next step is saying, what's the chance you can get me 10% off this right now?

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If you're at a store, Target, Starbucks, whatever. Can you give me 10% off? What's the chance? If they say no, this is what Chris Boss told me. He said, you can reply with a follow-up. So you're telling me you're powerless? So it's a little, I don't know if it's manipulative or what, but it's like, so you're telling me you're powerless right now and helping me? Yeah.

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And it's kind of like, because he said no. Yeah. No one wants to say... I am powerless. Yeah, yeah.

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But it's almost like another level of, okay, we created playfulness. Now this is like, you're putting pressure on the playfulness.

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From what's the chance or I need a miracle to, if you really need something, you're putting that pressure on.

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You're saying, so you're telling me you're powerless right now? then the person behind the counter is like, am I powerless or am I powerful?

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But it's like, it's interesting though, because if you try it, I don't know if you'd want to try this, but if you try it, so you tell me you're powerless right now, it's interesting the responses you'll hear from people because people do not want to be powerless. They want to feel powerful and empowered.

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Shout out to Chris Voss, man. It was a good one. This is another question I want to ask you. I feel like I've probably been in more arguments than I wish in my life. Where I needed to apologize afterwards, where it's like an hour or a day later, I was like, ah, man, I was a jerk. Or I reacted or I overreacted, right?

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I let my childhood wounds get the best of me and I responded from a fight or flight. So what's the best way to apologize to someone after you said something that you really didn't mean in the heat of the moment? Hmm.

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You are a leading voice as a trial lawyer, but also speaker and authoritative figure on how to really effectively communicate better. And a lot of people struggle specifically in intimate relationships. And when I mean intimate, I'm not only talking romantic, but family and friends, I feel like are also intimate relationships.

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You know what I like to do instead? It might be a little workaround.

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No, no. Because anytime you add but, like you said, it kind of eliminates the apology or your acknowledgement of their feelings. And so I started to say my workaround.

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was, I'm sorry, and I also want to talk about... Just putting and? Yeah.

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I'm sorry. I acknowledge it. And I also want to bring this up as well.

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No, I think that's great. It's not eliminating something. It's acknowledging and including something else.

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Water you down. And what should we do or say when someone gives us an insincere or inauthentic apology? I think you should call it out every single time.

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And I just feel like there's a lot of conflict where people have lost the ability and the art to open their heart, listen to someone with a different opinion or a different belief, not get triggered emotionally and be able to respond calmly when they disagree with someone.

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I don't know if this is like a pushback to you or anything, but it's more of like, I feel there are some people in the world who have very thin skin and everything triggers them, even when they're not trying to trigger them. And they almost become victims saying, you hurt me, you hurt me every single day or week or something that was said or not said.

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And everything is an attack where it can become exhausting for a friend, a family member, or a loved one to feel like, gosh, this person has such thin skin. I'm always needing to apologize. Yeah. And most people would never take this personally. And I'm not intending to hurt someone. Right.

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So what if you're dealing with someone who is a victim and always trying to get you to apologize for something when you didn't really do anything? Yeah, there's... I'm not talking about the intentional leads were really hurtful. You said something nasty to me, but just the weak, vulnerable, thin-skinned person who just likes the attention of making someone else need to apologize to them.

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And you have seemed to educate and teach people on how to do this so effectively in your content and the way you share these messages online and in your book. And I guess my first question for you is, it just seems impossible for people to navigate these arguments.

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Don't get it. What is it? The emotional sand trap? Is that what you call it? Yeah. That's a tricky one. And you can get caught up with either childhood friends or an intimate relationship you're in for...

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then this is the episode for you because we've got Jefferson's Fisher back, who's about to dive deep into the art of effective communication during difficult conversations. We're going to reveal so many powerful key lessons in here. And I would love for you to share this with one friend that you want to see continue to elevate in their life.

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Or you can keep spinning around by yourself. Exactly. I'm removing myself. Yeah. Yeah. That's now you got it. Where have you fallen short in the last couple of years with. not using your own advice in having control, competence, or the ability to connect with someone. Where have you gotten flustered and been like, oh man, I really said the wrong thing. Or I really like wasn't listening.

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Or I hurt this relationship by how I reacted. Is there anywhere? Or are you just kind of like the perfect communicator?

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And it's almost like I either have to give in to keep the peace when someone has a different belief, I don't wanna speak up to rock the boat, or I have to speak up and then have this conflict with someone I care about. How can we start to navigate with intimate relationships, loved ones, friends, family, our partner, when we have different beliefs without rocking the boat?

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Really? Yeah. So how does that work in a, if you're a, you know, a lawyer in court, in trial, when one lawyer is getting defensive, what is that saying to the entire room?

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That's when you're defensive, you're taking something personally. Yes. And when you take something personally and you respond from that way of being, what typically happens in a conversation or an argument or a debate?

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Have you lost in the mix? That brought up a story for me. of childhood, you know, people said hurtful things, but when you said that, I remember a different memory, not what someone said, but what someone did that I held onto for almost like 20 years.

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And it was like a, I don't know, it was like a movie playing in my head where I had a, I was playing a character role for 20 years of my life when I felt in fight or flight, or when I felt like I needed to get defensive. It's almost like that energy from childhood was my go-to until I was able to recognize and heal that energy. And that story is, it's a story I told maybe 10 years ago.

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But I don't think I've told her that in a long time. But when I was in elementary school, we was in third grade. The teacher had us go out for recess during lunch on the playground. For whatever reason this day, he said, okay, class, there's probably like 20 or excuse me, about 40 of us in the classroom. He said, okay, class, I'm going to have two captains and we're going to play dodgeball.

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and he had two boys in the class pick teams, one and one. And I remember being really excited. I was like, okay, hopefully I get on this team, right? And they're picking one by one all the boys in the class first, these two pickers, right? And it comes down to me and another kid who I didn't think was that athletic, right? But they picked him over me.

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So I was gonna be the last boy picked, but then they skipped me and they started picking all the girls. all the way down to me and one girl and they picked her and I was the last kid picked in the whole class. And I remember feeling so angry and so like attacked. They didn't say like, oh, you're stupid or you're dumb or whatever, but their actions said it.

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And for probably 20 years without thinking, I wasn't thinking this story every day, but I was like, People are trying to take advantage of me. People are trying to like pick on me. People are making fun of me. It was kind of like a script playing in my nervous system, right? I was living life trying to win and prove people wrong.

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And it got me incredible results, but it left me feeling very empty and sad and resentful and angry because I was carrying what someone did, not what someone said. And it wasn't until, I don't know, 12 years ago when I finally let that go and started living from a space of how do I, not in a perfect way, but how do I create a win-win experience in life, not a win-lose? Yes.

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And how do I come from a place of, trying to lift others up rather than get back at people that like made fun of me or did something to hurt me. Right. And it was interesting how my entire life started to change when I let go of that harmful act and I'd stopped taking it personally. Right.

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But most of us hold onto these things for a long time, whether it's something that was said to us or something that was not said to us or done to us. And we take it personally. And then we are triggered in conversations where maybe it's not meant to hurt us. but we're triggered easily.

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So it sounds like we almost need to learn how to heal the stories we were told or the traumas we were received growing up that cause us to be reactive in uncomfortable conversations as well.

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What does that do when you speak that you're getting defensive in an argument?

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What if they start to hold that against you? And they're like, oh, I've got them. Let me just dig in even farther.

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I have a theory, and I want you to let me know if you think this is accurate or not. poke holes with this theory.

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The key to any successful relationship comes down to agreements because arguments and more stress is the, the lack of agreements equals the lack of agreements. That's all I think arguments are, are not having clear agreements in place and not sticking to them. And I think your grandparents, speak true to this. How long have they been married for? One time. 40, 50 years or something? Yeah.

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And what you said, I think holds the theory true, unless there's more to this. is that every year they come together at some point and say, are our agreements still working for us, right? And here's what I'd like to add to my agreement of how I'm gonna show up and what I want you to support with and vice versa. Can we agree to this, sign it, whether it be physically or spiritually,

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and then live up to those agreements throughout the year. I feel like when agreements or a lack of roles and responsibilities aren't clearly communicated and held up to in any relationship, intimately, friends, family, co-working, then That's when there's stress, resentment, frustration, or dis-ease in the relationship.

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But harmony happens, not perfection, but harmony happens when clear agreements are in place, which means having challenging conversations sometimes and learning to come together with your three C's, confidence, control, and connection. But coming into a relationship with

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with a lack of agreements or undefined agreements, just assuming someone else agrees with you based on societal norms or based on whatever it might be, cultural norms, these uncommunicated agreements, but then they're not met and they're not communicated. That's when I think there's a lack of harmony or more friction.

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It doesn't mean it can't work or can't be a good relationship, but I feel like there's more harmony and love and peace and abundance and joy in relationships when there are clear agreements and each party lives up to those agreements. Yeah, I love that. And I think that theory holds true.

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Certainly not in year 50. And seasons change, right? It's like you have kids, you don't have kids, you have money, you have challenges, you have whatever.

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If individuals getting into relationships could get out of assumptions and into agreements, they would have a lot less arguments.

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Let's just co-author that book. But it's true though. I feel like, but why is it so hard to communicate the agreements we want and get out of, oh, I'm, you know, a guy and she's a girl. And so this is, we're just going to assume that this is the way a relationship is supposed to be.

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We assume that the guy is going to do this, the girl's going to do this, and we're just, we're going to love each other this way. as opposed to just having an uncomfortable conversation, doesn't even have to be uncomfortable. It could just be a curious conversation about, hey, this is my intention and how I want to show up. This is who I am.

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And I want to be accepted in my relationship and I want to accept you for who you are. Right. Can we come to an agreement? on how we're gonna show up for each other if we get into a relationship, as opposed to just assume that you're supposed to be a certain way, I'm supposed to be a way, around everything, around money, kids, religion, career, travel, living, all these different things.

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The more clarity we can get around agreements in relationships, the more harmony and peace we will have. Absolutely. Let's go. Let's go. That's why people need to read your book. There you go. That's exactly right. The next conversation, argue less, talk more.

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Yeah, it's the unspoken... What is it? The unspoken assumptions or expectations, right? It's just like you expect someone to be a certain way. Why do people expect someone to be a certain way as opposed to just asking them what they're going to be like and say, you know... Yeah, it's much easier to assume they're going to be exactly who they were and what they are in your head.

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and can i get your agreement on i'm not looking to do x y and z that's how you can have it you have mastered a lot of these communication skills through being a lawyer being a communication coach a speaker a content creator an author a facilitator you have practiced these things you've studied them for masters as well

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But where is the area that you struggle with the most when it comes to having conversations?

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You're struggling with that too, huh? You seem very patient though, very calm, very cool, southern charm. For the most part, yes. You know, I can sit here all day and listen to you complain. That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, just complain all day to me. I'm here. Got some sweet tea. Yeah, let's go. Yeah, sit down. Tell me more. Yeah, exactly. Speaking of, you know, sitting there all day and being in an argument or someone complaining, if you cry in an argument or someone else is crying or starts to cry at some point, what's the best way to respond?

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When you're having an argument or a difficult conversation and all of a sudden you start to cry or the person you're arguing with starts to cry. Oh, okay. What's the best way to respond if you cry or they cry?

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Speaking of emotions, I recently had someone close to me lose someone who was close to them. And they're experiencing, you know, grief and sadness and loss. And how can we... What's the best way to show up for someone who is grieving? Anything, a loss of a friend, a family member, a pet, a health condition, something, a home, everything.

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Like they check the box of checking in with someone to say, hey, I checked in with you and I offered support, but I didn't, I wasn't specific about the support. So I'm going to make you think harder now. And I've probably done that many times in my past, you know, but the way you speak that is,

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It makes me think differently as opposed to, you know, I actually think I saw you post about that, I don't know, like a month ago because the fires were happening in LA and I saw you talk about that. And I remember this person who was going through the grieving process. Instead of saying, reaching out to them and saying, what can I do for you? Like, let me know if you need any support.

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I'm here for you. I think it's good intention to be like, hey, I'm here for you, whatever you need. It's like, whatever you need, I'm here for you. Instead, I just sent Postmates with coffee because I knew their family was going to be like exhausted and not sleeping. Instead, I sent meals throughout the lunchtime because I knew they weren't thinking about cooking for themselves.

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I just Postmates food to them. And just for the week, just to be like, This probably isn't going to be everything you need. It's not going to help with everything, but it's one less thing you need to think about during this week of sadness, loss, grief, overwhelm, and not taking care of yourself. How can I just add a little bit extra and then keep adding more as I see where I can help?

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So just say, I'm sorry for what you're going through and leave it at that.

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And I'd say even three is- Because also before you go to three, when someone's grieving something, it's like you go through many stages of grief. There's shock, there's sadness, there's a ton of emotion, there's a lot of tears. The last thing you want to do is ask for help. Yeah. You don't want to say, my house just burned down. Can you give me some money? Yeah.

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you're in sadness you're in breakdown you're like yeah hey can you come over here and clean this up for me like you don't want to ask for something because you already feel an an overwhelm of emotion and sadness yeah and like asking for help maybe it doesn't feel empowering right well and especially when it has to do with loss and because if you say let me know if you need anything it's like well the thing i need you cannot give me yeah and it's so it's uh it's just a um

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The next conversation, Are You Less? Talk More by Jefferson Fisher. Make sure you guys get a copy if you want to learn why you should never win an argument, how to assert yourself and communicate with intention, how to set clear boundaries and frame conversations that will empower you. why saying less is often more and how to overcome conflict with connection, then this is the book for you.

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Make sure to get a few copies, give them to your friends, give them to the person in your life who also constantly cries to guilt you in every conversation. I'm just teasing, not that person. They won't receive it. They'll be triggered if they get this.

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Exactly. I'm sorry. Here's this book. Get some copies, guys. Make sure to support Jefferson. He's got... pretty much daily content as well on social media you can follow him on social media powerful stuff we'll have it all linked up below get this book it's going to be a big seller um this year so make sure to check it out and jefferson thanks so much for being here man

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That's so hard though, when you're stressed out or you're overwhelmed and someone is like triggered and reactive or defensive or coming back at you and you're just like, I'm just trying to communicate calmly, but this person's acting like a five-year-old child.

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When they're an adult, they're grown up, they're a grown man, a grown woman, they shouldn't be acting this way, especially a loved one when you're thinking like, I'm pouring into you all the time, I'm sacrificing my life for you and all you gotta do is react to me.

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It's hard to be like, okay, settle down. I know this isn't who you are. It's hard when you're exhausted, right?

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What are the three most powerful questions you should ask when someone is overreactive, stressed out, or overwhelmed in an argument or conversation?

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Should you say, what is that reason? Or just let it sit? Usually if you let it sit, they'll say, yeah. Yeah.

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I'm feeling frustrated. I'm feeling overwhelmed. I'm feeling stressed. Yeah. Whatever it is.

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You've got to have such extreme patience to be able to use that because it could go for hours.

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You know, it's interesting if people could learn the art, cause I think it's an art of tell me more. They will have some of the most powerful relationships in their life with the people they can use that with.

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When I'm in a good state and I'm not feeling defensive and Martha's having some type of overwhelming moment or something's going on, when I'm able to be there for her and just say, what's going on? Tell me more. And continue to tell me more. Is there anything else? Is there anything else you'd like to say? Right. Tell me more about how that makes you feel.

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What else? What about this? Tell me more. until she's able to get it all out. And if I can be present and patient, there's so much power in the connection afterwards. And for weeks of just like being able to be there for someone and listen, not trying to fix, not trying to coach, not trying to guide, but just listen and say, tell me more. What else is going on?

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Is there anything else you want to say? Are you sure? What else? It is so powerful. It will change your relationship for the better. And the hardest part for me is to get out of myself when I'm feeling defensive to be able to do that for someone else. Cause I feel like I'm not speaking about Martha, but just in general, I don't feel, I don't feel like they're doing that for me.

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Before we dive in, big announcement. We have the Make Money Easy book tour and School of Greatness podcast tour happening at the same time. So it's a two for one. We're going to seven cities in 10 days. My new book is out March 18th. It drops. It's called Make Money Easy. Create financial freedom and live a richer life.

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Or not doing it, you know, it's hard to do it when you're upset or you're exhausted or you're angry or you're feeling your emotions. If you're acting like a five-year-old, you know?

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That's interesting, man. What do you think is the biggest mistake you see people making today when it comes to having challenging conversations?

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And if you have not bought your ticket yet, go to the link in the description here on this podcast. or go to lewishowes.com slash tour, and you'll see a link to pre-order the book, but also to check out one of the events. We're going to Austin, Texas, New York City, Boston, Nashville, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and San Diego. So if you live in those areas,

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What do you think for women is the most attractive thing in a man and their ability to communicate?

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You can pray for something, but you gotta act on it too. You gotta create. You can't just say, give it to me. You gotta create. You gotta learn the skill yourself.

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Yeah. You gotta act on it. A lot of people don't like losing in life. They don't like losing games. They don't like losing- Anything. Anything, right? And they don't like losing an argument. But you say in chapter one to never win an argument. Why is that?

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It's honestly the same thing.

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I love you. Love you too. Let's just start with that. I love you. I appreciate you.

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You're controlling the wrong things.

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You're trying to control things that you can't control.

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Welcome back, my friend, to another episode on the School of Greatness. We have a massive guest today. Her name is Mel Robbins. I've known her for over eight years, and she is literally exploding everywhere right now with her new book, The Let Them Theory, which I think has been number one on Amazon for almost three or four months now.

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And what have you done before you got here? I was talking about the weight of gold. There's a documentary called The Weight of Gold, which is where Olympians kind of sabotage themselves after they win the gold medal.

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No, not that. Not that. But how have you stayed present within yourself today? to make sure you don't sabotage yourself with the success? Like, how have you said, like, oh, am I actually deserving of this, or am I actually worthy of this? How have you made sure you've been able to say, yes. I don't even think about that. You don't think about it?

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So you don't have any doubt around, like, I'm- Zero. That's good.

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has ever wanted to control everything about your work or your career or your message that goes out and you've wanted to look a certain way and you want everyone to like you, this is going to be perfect for you.

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That's amazing. But I know your story from in your early 40s. I think it was like $800,000 or a million dollars in debt.

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So how do you build belief after having big financial failures? How do you continue to show up again and again and not just say, I am a failure, not this was a failure?

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It's true. Being a champion is not a sexy life. No. Being a champion, like being an athlete from the sports world, even the greatest athletes in the world, they live a very boring life because they get up and they do Groundhog's Day over and over. They get up at 5 a.m. when they don't want to wake up. They eat.

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If something's been holding you back on your insecurities or your self-doubt, you're going to want to listen to this over and over again and you're going to want to share this with your friends and family because I know you have people in your life who are blocking their ability to create freedom inside of them and externally to get to the next level of what they want.

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whatever, the same food every morning, they go to the gym the same way, and they just do the same repetition, win or lose, until they get to what they want. It's not sexy.

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There's a lot of talented people out there who are being held back by some of these things. So if you know someone in your life like that, then please send them this link because you're going to get a ton out of this conversation. Again, we got to share during my book tour.

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If you haven't gotten my new book, Make Money Easy, it's all about healing your relationship with money so you can set yourself into financial freedom internally and externally. Make sure to grab a copy of Make Money Easy.

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So how do we overcome discouragement?

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But that's the first thing. So there's two things. Discouragement. And what do you think are some ways that can help us get out of that? Obviously, your method, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, gets you moving. Right. But even if you're moving, you could still be doubting or discouraging yourself.

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And also, if you have not got a copy yet, I don't know where you've been in the last few months, make sure to get a copy of The Let Them Theory, again, which is number one on every book list out there in the world right now and continues to just go bananas all over the place. Make sure to get a copy of each one of them.

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And I cannot wait for you to dive into this episode with the one, the only Mel Robbins. You know, I just had you on the show a few months ago, but it was before the madness.

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and number one in the New York Times bestseller list for the last few months. It is everywhere. And we sat down during my book tour in the last few weeks ago. We sat down and talked about her personal journey of how she's actually navigating this cultural phenomenon that's happening with her book, The Let Them Theory.

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It was like the madness was coming. You knew it was about to hit, but it's hit in the last few months in a big way, in a beautiful way. How have you been able to expand your emotional nervous system and your kind of energetic container to be able to... What the hell kind of question is that? What am I saying? How have you been able to prepare to be able to receive this much abundance?

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Can you think of a time where you were accomplishing a lot of things and outwardly had a lot of success or things looked good or you were building something and people were acknowledging for it but you didn't feel good about you?

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Is there like a season, like a six-month or one-year season where you're like, man, it looked like everything was really great, or my business was blowing up, or this, or people were saying, you're incredible, but I didn't feel good?

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Wow. When did you start to take that on, that journey for yourself where you said, I'm good with me no matter what happens in career or numbers or money?

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Oh, wow. I used to beat yourself up a lot. Daily. Every day.

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Or you get excited. Well, yeah, that's a positive one.

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Right. So before you share how you did that, how you started settling it, I don't know if you guys are hearing a theme tonight. But I talked about memories and the meaning we give our memories create a belief within us that we hold on to. And that belief influences our behaviors.

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And we consistently show up that way until we're able to reflect and take a step back and say, why am I doing these things? What's causing me to react this way? Why am I responding this way? Why do I tense up in these situations?

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And so you started to reflect on that and what helped you start to heal, process, let go of, and integrate feeling emotionally safe within you again whenever you used to feel like you were doing something wrong and now you can feel more safe within you no matter what is happening around you.

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Your nervous system. Yes. Yes.

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But what was the awareness that you had and the process you used personally to start to feel more safe?

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That's all you need. Making a decision. Yes.

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I don't know if anyone here has ever done this. I don't know if you've ever done this where you felt the blinking, you felt the stress, and you've tried to get someone else to stop what they're doing to cause that stress within you. Yes.

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Watch what you say, though, you know?

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Yeah. But I mean when you try to control or stop someone else from doing something that's causing you to react stressed out.

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And trying to control everything in your environment except for managing yourself. Yes.

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Yeah. Is that something you used to do, though?

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I said, you got five more minutes? Are you good?

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And that's something you did for a long time?

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Because that seems like something that was holding you back for most of your life, this idea of trying to control other people and stuff like that. Everybody is held back by that. Or control the environment or whatever it might be.

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And so when was the exact moment, because I've heard you say it a bunch of times, but for people who haven't heard it, when was the exact moment, this epiphany of I'm going to let people be themselves and not try to control every situation?

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There you go. I love that. Um, I got one final question, and I asked everyone to do this when you weren't here yet, I don't think. And the question is, what are a couple things you're most grateful for today?

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Yeah, and this is something that we do. I mean, for the last three months, I've been texting you every couple weeks. I'm like, you're still here, you're still here, you're crushing it here, congrats. And it's just, you do the same for me, we do this with each other. And I think I learned early on that, like, just competing isn't fun.

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It's like, maybe there's a little bit of thrill of like, oh, I'm beating someone, but it's not enjoyable long term and it's not sustainable. But collaboration is the key, again, to that abundance feeling. If you want to feel abundant, if you want to feel joyful, free, collaborate, don't compete. And I think that's been a key for me as well.

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So if you guys haven't yet, make sure you go right now and get the Let Them Theory book. Make sure to subscribe to our podcast.

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It's going to be hard to hit number one with her up there. I mean, your book is going crazy. But it's not about being number one. It's about doing the best you can and being of service. Yes. And if it hits number one, cool. If it doesn't, that's okay, too. It's all good. So, Peta, one day. No, I'm kidding. Guys, make sure you guys get a copy of her book.

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Make sure if you haven't subscribed to her podcast, make sure you subscribe right now. Leave a review for the book and for the podcast. While you're at it, you can leave a review for my book and the podcast as well. And let's give it up one more time for the inspiring Mel Robbins. Yes! I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel exclusively on Apple podcasts.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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And she shares how she's dealing with success and staying grounded and staying present. This is the type of goal, success, or dream that most people who have an idea, who want to launch a product or a book or a course or anything like that, this is the dream most people have. They want to be number one on the bestseller list. They want to be number one on the New York Times list.

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I think it's Monday. Oh, my God.

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Interesting. Now, for the last... eight years since I've known you, and you were working really hard and developing your communication skills for many years before then. You've been one of the top speakers in the world. You've had big moments. You're a great content creator, marketer, entrepreneur. You've done a lot of big things in the last eight years. It's not like this is out of nowhere.

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For those who are entrepreneurs in the room who have been trying to build it and grow it or maybe are struggling, how did you, I guess, emotionally prepare yourself, I know I already asked this a little bit, but how did you really emotionally prepare yourself for what was really to come?

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Because you knew this was gonna be big though. There was like an energy before launch.

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They want to have the number one podcast in the world. This is the dream. If you have a podcast, a book, if you're trying to do anything in this industry online, Mel is at the top

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Here's the thing. It didn't suck though. I mean, how many episodes did you do?

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So it can't suck if you do 174 episodes.

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But also, there was COVID, right? It stopped because of COVID. Yeah, but you know what, Lewis? I'm going to be honest. You're discounting yourself, though. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to stop Mel for a second because you're discounting yourself.

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And then they cancel the show. Just because people don't watch doesn't mean it sucked.

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of the game right now and if that's something you've ever wanted to learn how to do or even just get your stuff started and learning how to manage and navigate the success the weight the pressure of it all because there is extremes once you hit the extreme she's going to be sharing some of this process and she really opens up about her personal journey of healing childhood trauma breaking free from destructive patterns that have held her back

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What was the goal of, like, okay, I'm going to launch this book, and did you have, like, a number in mind of how big it would be, and then it just went so far above and beyond? Is that what happened?

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and finally learning to feel at peace with herself regardless of the achievements and the criticism and all of it. She doesn't hold back about her struggles with self-doubt, anxiety, and the constant need for control that plagued her for decades. If anyone here listening right now

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Welcome back, my friend, to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes. I'm your host. And this has been a 12-year journey on the School of Greatness. 12 years we've been doing the School of Greatness every single week, here to be of service to you, to help you improve the quality of your life, the quality of your health,

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What's the hardest boundary you've had to set for yourself this year?

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That's wise, man. Even with this interview, we were supposed to do it, I think on Halloween for whatever reason was scheduled then.

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Absolutely. And I respect, I wasn't like mad about it, but it's like the people, when you set a boundary, you know, people can either be offended or they can understand it.

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You know, I understood it. I was like, yeah, of course I was excited to do it, but I, oh, we're going to reschedule. It'll happen when it's supposed to happen.

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If it's supposed to, it'll happen, you know?

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And when I hear someone like Big Sean talking about his spiritual journey and his spiritual awakening as a big reason why, you're going to hear why because his story is fascinating. He shares intimate details about overcoming depression, finding inner peace, and his transformation from success to significance thanks to this shift in his spiritual way of thinking.

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He said that early on when you guys were in your teens. Yeah. Back in Detroit, that there was a group called Finally Famous. Yes. And it was like five or seven dudes.

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11 dudes, right? 11 of you guys just kind of hanging out, making music in the basement or people's garages or whatever and rooms.

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Yeah, of course. a lot of them have successful careers mostly because of you in some way, shape, or form. And Mike Posner said that you were the one that welcomed him in the group. He came later. And you launched a lot of people in some way down the line to having some type of success in their life through your influence. And I like the first quote that I talked about.

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You were searching for people in your life that could add value to you, but also where you could add value to them.

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And it sounds like from what he said, this group you guys were always talking about manifesting, like here's the dream we want with our music. Yeah. And your first album was called the same thing as the group, right? That's right. Isn't that interesting that you manifested and you created the thing that you were always creating from that group?

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He also talks about how to shift from scarcity mindset to an abundance mindset by changing your relationship with money and setting healthy boundaries with people around you. And boy, if I wish I knew this about how to create healthy boundaries in my 20s and 30s with friends, with family members, with employees, with business partners, my life would have created so much more peace.

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Coachella and Ohio State, spiritual experience. There's another great quote that I saw this, you know, as you started to kind of build your career in chapter eight of your book called Hitting a Wall. And the five strategies are accepting, strategizing, trying, trusting and manifesting.

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But at the start of this chapter, I think you share a story that everyone needs to hear because most people don't know what it's like being on top or accomplishing all of their wildest dreams. And you say the most depressed I ever got was in 2017. Essentially. but nothing ever felt like enough. And you talk about the pain of this situation. And I think there's a great quote by Jim Carrey.

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I've always wanted to interview him. So I love this quote where he's like, I wish everyone would get rich and famous and realize it's not the key to happiness. Kind of paraphrasing it. Yeah. But you were that. You had accomplished kind of like, you got to work with every artist. You were doing music with everyone. You probably sold 100 million records by then. You were crushing it.

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Why? And then part two, everyone thinks they're going to be happy and fulfilled when they become rich and famous. But that didn't seem like it's the case.

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But I lacked the courage. I lacked the wisdom. I will act a lot of things. I was afraid of how I would be perceived. I was afraid of people not liking me. And so if that's something that you've struggled with, I'm letting you know you are not alone. I have dealt with that. Someone like Big Sean has dealt with that. And so many other people that we've had on this show.

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But this show is here to support you in overcoming that, in becoming the greater version of you, in becoming the healthier, happier individual that deserves healing, peace, and prosperity. We dive deep into his new book, Go Higher, where he reveals the five practices that changed his life and career forever.

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No. Yeah. But that's a lot of power, too.

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Did you ever have a scarcity mindset? And if so, how did you learn to switch it into an abundance mindset?

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From manifesting techniques to setting boundaries, Sean's got to share wisdom that goes far beyond his musical achievements, showing a side of himself that fans have never seen before. I'm so excited about this. Again, if you find any value in this, please like the show, follow the show on Twitter. Apple podcast on Spotify, and leave us a review of your biggest takeaway. I read these reviews.

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the quality of your relationship to money, the quality of relationship to others, intimately, friends, career. We are here to be of service to you. And I hope you've enjoyed the journey with us. Whether this is your first episode, welcome, or if you've been on this journey with us for 12 years,

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I love this, man. Everything you're saying is resonating with me, and there's so many questions I want to ask you about that. But before I do, in Chapter 4, again, we're talking about your book, going higher, this is a game changer, make sure you guys get a copy. In chapter four, you talk about the fluidity, fluidity of fortune, and how you had to really unlearn some of these things about money.

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I'm curious, then, how did you learn to reprogram your subconscious mind to manifest money more when you weren't taught that those things early on?

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When did you learn this? How old were you?

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And when did you first put it into practice? You learned this new concept. It was something completely new. Money's all around me, right?

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And how did you put it into practice where you said, oh, it's actually real what this means?

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I love seeing them and I'm grateful for every one of them. Also, big announcement. I have a new book coming out in about a month's time from the release of this episode. It's called Make Money Easy. And again, one of the biggest things that Big Sean talks about is his relationship to money shifting.

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So when you get money now, and when money comes in and when money comes out, how does it feel for you emotionally when you receive and spend money?

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and how it helped him unlock abundance in his life once he shifted that relationship and created new boundaries.

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There's an amazing book called Happy Money by Ken Honda. I think you'll like it, where he says it's about the Japanese art around money. And when I had him on the show, it really helped me fortify my abundance mindset around money. And he said, when money comes to me, I don't care if it's a penny or a million dollars or anywhere in between, I say thank you to that money.

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thank you to the dollar thank you to the 20 thank you to the money i found in the streets thank you to the million dollar check thank you yeah and i say thank you where do you want to go and it says where do you want to go now do you want to go to my bank account and sit there for a while do you want to go into the stock market do you want to go into this business deal do should i give this to someone for free like where do you want to go and he says when we look at his energy and his abundance

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And my new book called Make Money Easy, Create Financial Freedom and Live a Richer Life is all about creating those boundaries in your life, understanding your money personality style based on your money history and how to unlock new ways of financial prosperity in your life from that inner journey that we all get to take. And when you can tap into the inner journey of money,

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And we are appreciating it. It appreciates in value.

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And we don't hold on to it, but we say, where do you want to go? Because I know more is coming to me.

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What's the best investment you've made in yourself?

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What's the best investment you can make in yourself today that you haven't spent the money on yet?

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the outer journey of money becomes an unbelievable experience. So go to the description in this podcast. At the top, you'll see a link where you can just go on Amazon and search Make Money Easy. You'll see my book and pre-order a copy right now because it's coming out and I want you to get it the day it releases, coming very soon.

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You mentioned a little bit earlier about how when you had everything, but you also felt... I don't want to say everything.

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Okay, when you had everything that probably your 18-year-old self had dreamed of.

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Rich, famous, on tour, working with every big artist that you were looked up to, all that stuff.

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um all the money you could ever dream of you know it's like everything playing in front of sold-out arenas and you weren't feeling good you mentioned how you were doing you know drugs alcohol weed things like this and people and people made it seem regular but yeah go ahead you know that's not regular where do you feel like your frequency was when you were doing drugs alcohol weed versus when you're not doing that i don't really get like blasted anymore so i'm trying to remember

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I've never been drunk or high in my life.

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Amazing. And I played college football, so I was always at like the frat party type of stuff. And so I never knew what that's like to be drunk or high.

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But every time I'd go to the parties, Everyone was like, you have to drink, you have to drink. It was very forceful. You have to drink. And I was like, I can get high on life. I don't need this. Or I can have a Sprite or whatever.

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But I feel like it's the natural high of just, I love my life. I'm grateful to be here, all these different things. I can get to that space. So I never felt like I needed the alcohol or something to get there. So I don't know what it's like. But is the frequency different when you're high or drunk?

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Okay, I'm excited about this episode with the one and only Big Sean. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Big Sean in the house. My man.

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I would also say it affects your soul.

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And you have to tap into something deeper to create it. Exactly. You have to tap into that ultimate power within you to create it.

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Enjoy. Oh, man. I like that. Do you smoke or drink a lot right now?

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No Adderall, no... No. No drug, no weed, not even... Why did you decide, you know, when you were making money and doing drugs and everything was working out, why did you decide now not to be on drugs or alcohol?

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Midwest. It's too bad you're from that state up north, but it's okay. Detroit doesn't feel like Michigan to me, though. Detroit is its own thing.

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Did you ever make agreements with God?

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Trust me. Oh, no. Okay, it's too bad. This year, it's happening. We're coming back this year.

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It's all a miracle. It's all a miracle. It's all a miracle. Yeah.

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Why was it one of the best shows ever? Was it like a spiritual vibe or what?

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There's two things we were talking about. One, you heard God's voice a couple of times. When you heard God speak to you, did something in your life start to change? Did you do things differently? Did you make other agreements with yourself on how you're going to live your life or did it just remind you about what you're supposed to do next?

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It's not much else to do in the Midwest, though. You like go hard. When you love someone coming to your town, you're like, ah. I know. They're screaming for you.

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You don't have to tell me or us, but yeah. Yeah. It wasn't like the deepest thing.

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Yeah. But more like what did it tell you without telling us what it said, but what, what did you feel you were meant to do with that information?

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Yeah man, thanks brother, thanks man. Yeah, congrats. You are a multi-platinum artist, over 185 million records sold is what you just told me. That is insane. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. How many records sold that is.

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I was asking your dad beforehand when you left the room for a minute, and I was like, what's the thing that you're inspired by the most about your son?

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And he said that you treat everyone as if they're special, whether they're someone or they're nobody, you treat everyone with kindness, respect, generosity, and you have a big heart and you want to serve people. And I thought that was really cool to have your dad say that about you. What's the thing that inspires you the most about your dad?

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And you have this new book out that I'm fascinated by because I wouldn't think of you writing this type of book. If I just heard some of your earlier music, I wouldn't be thinking that you'd be writing this book called Go Higher, Five Practices for Purpose, Success, and Inner Peace, which I wanna dive into. But there's a quote that you talk about,

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I saw an interview online, I don't know who this was, but I saw a clip of an older man who had billions of dollars, successful entrepreneur. And someone asked him like what his definition of success was. He's probably in his seventies. And he said, my adult children wanted to hang out with me today.

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Exactly. But like my adult kids wanted to spend time with me, not for my money, but they genuinely loved me and they wanted to hang out. And it sounds like, it seems that way. I just met you guys both recently, but it seems like, you know, you guys are hanging out together and that's got to feel good for both of you, you know?

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And a lot of people don't have good relationships with their parents and there's, you know, traumas and challenges. So, and I'm not saying you guys have a perfect relationship, but it seems like.

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Why do you like that practice? Why do you recommend people making three agreements with the universe?

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in the book on page 24 that says, I visualized being on a cliff. My higher self was saying to me that there was an invisible bridge in front of me that was gonna take me to the other side. Took a lot of faith to walk over that bridge, but that's what I did. It took four years, but during that time, I never lost faith and I kept writing.

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It's making it a stronger bond with energy, God, the universe, with your destiny.

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Something I did in my early 20s was when I was broke, I was living on my sister's couch in Columbus, Ohio. Columbus. Columbus, CBUS, baby. The greatest performance of your life was in Columbus. I like that.

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But I was at a dark phase for about a year and a half and I was trying to figure out how to develop self-worth. I was playing arena football and I was chasing the NFL dream. I got injured and I was never good enough to make it, but I lived my dream in terms of getting paid 250 bucks a week to catch a football. and play in front of audiences. For me, that was like part of the dream as a kid.

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I got injured on my sister's couch for a year and a half, and I realized my ego was much bigger than my self-worth. And I thought I had things figured out, but I really had no skills. besides catching a football. And I was actually a scared little boy inside. And I remember thinking of these things. I was like, what is the goal and the dream I want to accomplish?

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I would write these things down and I would create a certificate of achievement. I would write the goal down with the date I wanted to accomplish it. And I would sign it and frame it and hang it on my wall. And that gave me something to look at every single day and I said, who's the man I need to become in order to accomplish this? I have low self-worth. I'm in a lot of self-doubt and fears.

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I need to go conquer these fears and develop these skills to accomplish this dream. Has there ever been a time in your life where you felt low self-worth? And if so, how did you learn to develop more worthiness for yourself?

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We're always looking to find incredible conversations and incredible guests with stories, research and science to support your success and your inner and outer greatness. And I just want to say I'm grateful for you for being here. Again, whether this is your first time being here, or you've been here for 12 years with me, I'm deeply grateful.

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So when my next shot came around, I was ready and I had a ton of songs. I was asking the universe at that time to provide me with the people who could help me get to where I needed to be, as well as people who I could find a way to help as well. I wanted it to be mutually beneficial. This is powerful. And I wanted to start here because The thing you say is I visualized being on a cliff.

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In your book, we're talking about Go Higher, which is a powerful book. You mentioned that some of the early books that you got into, The Four Agreements, The Secret. I got to interview Rhonda Byrne, the creator of The Secret, a couple of times. And it was really powerful. She talked about the law of attraction, manifestation.

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I'm curious, what is your formula for manifestation and the law of attraction for you? Is there a definition for you? Is there a code for you on how to manifest better?

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185 million records is kind of unrealistic to think about.

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But it feels realistic to me, though. You made it real. Yeah. But if you're 18 and thinking, I'm going to sell almost 200 million records, like, is that realistic? It's kind of an unrealistic thought.

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It is, I guess. At that time of life. But then, oh, I sold $100 million.

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I visualized. And this is a time where you'd gotten signed, but nothing was happening for years.

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Going back to Posner, uh, I said, what else about Bashan that, that really inspired you? And he said during that time, uh, when he was glowing, he talked about a book called ask and it is given.

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I love all those books. What did that book, though, teach you or what did it say for you about your life? Ask and it is given.

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So you're excited. Something is big. I just got signed. I'm going to make it big. The next thing I do, it's going to happen. But four years, essentially, nothing's happening.

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So I like something out there that you want to create.

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This is really interesting you're saying this because I think a lot of people, I think we need to talk about this for a moment because Words matter. Words do matter. And how you desire or want something puts you on a different frequency level. It does.

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So if you say, I'm lacking something, so therefore I want it, based on how I'm interpreting you're saying this, you feel more separate from that thing that you want to create and draw closer to you.

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It's just a matter of when. Yeah, it's a matter of when. So it puts you into more of an abundance frequency versus scarcity or lack frequency.

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And I'm curious, how did you learn to trust yourself? in the universe that you would manifest something when there's nothing happening for years? How did you continue to trust the invisible bridge that would take you from where you are to where you want to be?

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How do you balance taking action to create what you want versus attracting and allowing it to come to you?

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If you want to create it now and when you feel a lack, you feel separate, you're like, how do I make it happen now?

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I'm saying for some people it's hard.

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What's the thing that you've desired the most that took you the longest to attract or actualize or create in your life that you had to trust the longest?

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You got a whole chapter in your book about therapy. I'm curious, what is the thing that therapy taught you the most? And what is the healing that you've created for yourself that has given you the most peace and freedom?

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Wow. That's powerful, man. That's a good kind of like mantra to reinforce with yourself. What would you say is the biggest mental block that you've had to let go of to create more abundance in your life?

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How do people who feel very anxious, depressed, stressed out, overwhelmed, life's just not going their way, going through a breakup, going through trauma, they feel like everything is against them. How do they learn that everything is actually in their favor and that they're deserving of abundance?

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Yeah. And it's kind of like what Posner said. It's like you were kind of down and out for a while or in more of like a lower state. And then all of a sudden he sees you a few months later and you're glowing. So you change something within you. Yeah. You didn't take a pill and make you feel better. You change something within you. You transform the way you think.

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And then you create it from a space of joy and possibilities and freedom.

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And I think your inner words also, even if you don't speak it out, but you're thinking it, also has the effect. you're just thinking, I suck, I'm nobody, but you're not saying it, it's still going to impact you.

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In your book, you have a couple questions for people. And the question is, what are you avoiding in your life? Is it possible that this thing might serve you in your development? What's the best thing that could happen from it? Curious for you, Sean, what are you avoiding in your life right now?

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What's the thing you're avoiding the most right now that when you address it, it's going to really help you unlock that next level of abundance and freedom?

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Yeah, of course, man. What do you need to make peace with? These are questions that you have in your book for us, which I think are powerful. You're a deep, wise human being, and I appreciate how you challenge anyone who's getting this book. Again, get the book, go higher. But one of the questions is, what do you need to make peace with?

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What do you need to make peace with? Yeah.

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What's the next three steps you need to make after this conversation to support you in getting to a peace with that conflict?

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That's beautiful, man. I'm going to follow up with you in a couple weeks. I would love to. We got to do like a part two of this. I'm down, man. I'm down, man. I've got a few final questions for you. I don't want to respect your time. What's the thing you are most proud of that most people don't know about you? We know you've got, you know, multi-platinum, 185 million records.

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You know, you've collaborated with every big artist in the world. You're, you know, a superstar. But what's the thing that you're proud of most people don't know about you?

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Yeah. Does that make sense? Of course. A hundred percent. I mean, you've collaborated with some of the, you know, most iconic artists of our generation and I'm sure you've learned incredible lessons from each one of them and have inspiring stories from each one of them. Yeah. But which one of those names,

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really taught you something that just blew you away of those artists that you got to work with, whether through interacting with them, seeing how they created art, just being in their presence, how they, you know, performed on stage. Like what was the lesson one of them taught you that really inspired you?

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What was that like being a Detroit kid? Yeah, crazy. And Eminem's the king.

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In Detroit. Crazy. What was that like?

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I got two final questions for you. I've got a dozen still on here, but I want to respect our time here. But I want people to get your book before I ask the final questions. It's called Go Higher, Five Practices for Purpose, Success, and Inner Peace.

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This is a game changer, and you wouldn't expect a lot of things you're going to read out of this from a guy like Big Sean, but it's extremely deep, wise, spiritual, and profound. And I want to acknowledge you, Sean, for... putting yourself out there like this. I know you do this in your art, in your music, and there's undertones of this as well in your music.

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Absolutely. I was just talking about before we jumped on our mutual friend, Mike Posner. I was just FaceTiming him and I said, tell me something about Big Sean that most people don't know.

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But you really went all in on this book. And I think it's one of your greatest pieces of art because of the impact it will continue to have for generations and how it's truly feeding the soul for so many people when they dive in and start consuming and capturing some of this. So I want to acknowledge you for...

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taking the the leap of faith to put this out there to put your heart and soul into something like this and to be willing to talk about all these concepts that i don't really hear a lot of artists like you talking about i don't hear people talking about manifestation and setting a frequency and letting go of the past you know you hear about holding grudges and getting back at people and all these different things you're you're you're speaking about

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boundaries, learning about how to love yourself, self-worth therapy, um, you know, recreating bonds with your parents, loving your child, being a great dad, being proud of being a father, being there for yourself, like all these things. It's just not typical conversation, I think with that industry. And I, maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I think a lot of people might, might be thinking.

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So I want to acknowledge you for using your heart again, what you said, Using your heart to be of service. And I think that's the greatest gift that every person can give to the world is whatever's in their heart, use it to be of service for others. And I acknowledge you for doing that with this book, my man. Thank you so much, man. Two final questions for you.

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And it's been an incredible journey just thinking of all the amazing guests for 12 years. But we have a big guest today. And If you haven't yet, it would mean the world to me if you click the follow button over on Apple Podcast or on Spotify right now. If you're listening on one of those platforms, just click the follow button on our profile right at the top.

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I want people to go get the book, follow you on social media. Where else can we be of service to you today besides getting a couple copies of the book?

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Exactly, yeah. He said you changed his life, and you're the one who brought him into spirituality and God. He said he wasn't into God or spirituality until... He wasn't, actually. He wasn't. No, he was not. Until you. And he said there were a couple of moments that you...

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This is a question I ask everyone at the end, these last two questions. It's called the three truths. So it's a hypothetical scenario. Imagine you get to live as long as you want to live on this earth, but it's the last day. could be 100 200 years old, whatever it is, you get to live and you get to accomplish and manifest all your dreams from this moment till then.

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But you got to turn the lights off and go somewhere else. Your life is over. On this last day, you have to take all of your work with you. So no one has access to your music, your art, your book. This conversation is gone. Hypothetical. Okay. But you get to leave behind three final lessons. I call it three truths. And we would have access to these three lessons.

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What would those three truths be for you?

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100%, man. Final question, what's your definition of greatness?

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you were looking to... create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you wanna make it easier, you wanna make it flow, you wanna feel abundant, then make sure to go to MakeMoneyEasyBook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is gonna help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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brought him this and it was the moment when after years of you being signed but nothing was happening, he said there was like a six month window where it was dark for you. It was pretty dark. That's right. And he thought, I don't know what's gonna happen with this guy. And then he saw you maybe six months later and you were glowing. And he said, I want whatever this guy has. What does he have?

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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What is he doing? What is the thing that he did to transform from going to the darkness and into this glowing energy? And what was that for you? Do you know what?

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How did you learn how to separate them when most people, they have a bad day, they have a bad month, a bad year. It dictates their happiness, their joy, and their peace. How did you separate things not working out for you to it not affecting you emotionally and your joy?

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It should be in the top right corner if you're listening on Apple or Spotify. And leave us a review. Leave us a review on your biggest takeaway from today's episode. The thing you learned the most from today's episode with Big Sean. Because we had a massive, powerful conversation with you from multi-platinum recording artist,

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Yeah. Do you think you can manifest your dreams from a depressed state energetically?

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Yeah. Or it's also we were talking off camera about how. If you're feeling depressed or if you're feeling overwhelmed, you may need to look to where you need to create boundaries in your life. Because when you are giving your energy to so many people without the boundary, it's going to make you feel like you don't have anything left to give.

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When did you learn about boundaries in your life? Did you ever feel like you were a people pleaser growing up or when you started kind of in your career feeling like you had to do everything for everyone?

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Big Sean, who opens up about his journey of lasting success, crediting his spiritual awakening as a big reason why. And I want to continue to remind you that the journey to success is never outward. It's always inward.

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Welcome back my friend to another special episode on the School of Greatness. And I'm actually in Spain right now working on something that is a big dream for me. I'll be sharing more about it soon. If you're on social media, you might see me talking about it here in the next week or so. So feel free to stay tuned for what's happening there.

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Sometimes you need to fail and fumble along the journey in order to grow, to develop, to get better, to improve, to put yourself out there. And again, I've talked about this so many times that failure does not mean you're a loser. It's just feedback. It's information telling you what you need to still learn to improve, to get the results and the success that you want.

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Changing people, changing your external environment, whatever it might be.

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Changing policies, trying to change things that are hurting me.

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Speaking of the spiritual circumstance, I think a lot of people don't even know what a soul is. They may have heard, I have a soul, there's a soul in me, but what, and I saw an analogy you made with Oprah one time, and I think, again, we talked about this before, you're Oprah's most interviewed guest, and you talked about she was so impacted by the book,

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And you give an analogy for what the soul is. I'm wondering if you can share around a mothership.

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So just because you're failing right now or you're not accomplishing or you haven't arrived to the results you want right now, that shouldn't be something you are sad about. It should be something that you celebrate because it means you actually have the courage to take the actions even when you weren't perfect, even when you weren't talented, even when you weren't great yet. And that's awesome.

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It's okay. That's what it takes. It takes you taking those steps, fumbling, failing along the way, and then saying, okay, I'm just going to take the information from this day and get better tomorrow. And then you come back and do it again. It doesn't mean the big dream is going to happen overnight, but it is a process.

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And if you can trust the timing of your life, trust knowing that the reason it hasn't happened yet is because you still need to learn something. You still need to develop. You still need to take action on things. And these things might take time. The bigger the dream, the longer it is it usually takes and the harder it is to get there sometimes.

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But it doesn't mean you can't enjoy the process, the moments and the days along the journey. So I want to remind you this. If you're feeling like something's been off and you're like, ah, you feel out of alignment within your soul because you know you're not taking the actions, start planning and start prepping by taking steps daily and failing daily towards your dreams.

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Someone watching is in their twenties and thirties and they feel out of control. They feel powerless. And in every area of their life, their finances, their health, their relationships, their career, whatever it might be, they feel like they're not in control and they feel like maybe they are victim to what is happening around them.

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But I just want to remind you that if you're not living fully in your life right now, if you feel stuck in some way, then ask yourself, am I doing everything I can to pursue the thing that I know I'm meant to do. And maybe you can't do all of your time pursuing it, but am I taking steps on a daily basis? Am I spending 10 minutes allowing myself to work on it? Am I doing it on the weekends?

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can they even start the process of understanding what their soul truly wants and getting in alignment with that like how do you know what your soul wants you to do in this personality meaning meaning follow your sense of meaning not your sense of need not your want i followed sex for decades

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Again, this episode is all about manifesting. It's about creating the abundance and the life within your authentic power. And you may not feel powerful because you're not being authentic. You're not being authentic because you're not taking action in pursuing the thing that you truly desire, what your heart truly wants.

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Wow. So you were at Harvard, you had this on your wall, dreaming of it, thinking of it, visualizing it, and you wanted to manifest it.

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You were living in that dream on a daily basis.

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How can someone who has a dream manifest that dream? What's the process that you used?

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You thought you were superior, but you were very insecure.

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What was the pain that you had that made you feel insecure? And then made you addicted to sex in the future and made you macho and all these things.

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But you knew at that moment at Harvard that you wanted to create something for your life. You wanted to be a special forces, right?

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In the future. But you're visualizing in the now that dream, correct? Yes, that's correct. So how do we live in the now, but also dream about creating our future now?

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And you know what it wants, but you might just be too afraid to take the actions to go after it. So just allow yourself to take a little bit of action. You don't have to have all the time in the world to go all in. a little bit of action, your soul is going to thank you. Your spirit is going to thank you.

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Your body is going to say thank you by releasing the stress, the anger, the tension, the resentment that it has towards you from denying yourself of your dreams, from denying and robbing you of an opportunity to experience life in a more profound way than you're experiencing it right now. And if you have a dream in your soul and in your heart,

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So when you were in your dorm room then and you had images of special forces individuals in the army, how were you choosing then to create that vision and bring it to your reality?

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and you know it's been speaking to you, maybe it's been whispering to you because you've been shutting it down for years. It's time to let it have a voice. It's time to let your dream speak by you actually acting on it. And I know it's scary and I know it's going to take a ton of courage from you, but that's what you need. You need more courage and to be willing to disappoint people

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Why do you think your personality went into war, essentially?

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You're going to Harvard, top school in the country. But you were angry at everything.

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to be judged, to be critiqued, to be criticized, to be laughed at. You need to be willing to have the courage and start standing up for the little boy and the little girl inside of you that has a dream that's been screaming at you to take action. That's what you deserve right now.

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And we've got Gary Zukav on the show today, who's gonna share the wisdom on what he calls the new consciousness that is emerging in humanity, which is the shift beyond the limitations of our five senses that allows us to experience non-physical reality and live from authentic power.

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You mean traveling east? Yes. You mean crossing the bridge over to Asia? Yes.

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Very. Well, part of this, where you're adding the story, it sounds like you knew you wanted to go to college, but then you knew you wanted to leave college. But then you went traveling around Europe, but then you weren't supposed to go anymore, and you came back. And part of this goes back to one of the questions I'm curious about is how do we know what our soul truly wants?

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He's gonna give a transformational framework for creating authentic power by aligning your personality with your soul. This conversation will support you if you have a big dream and you haven't been acting on it fully yet. Take your notes. Write it down, start reflecting, and start taking action.

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You had different things and then you stop and you go back and you try here and you got me here. For someone watching or listening in their 20s or 30s who's like, I don't even know what my soul is. I don't know what my soul wants versus what my desires want or my ego wants. How do I know which one is really soul's desire versus ego desire versus what my parents or my dad wants me to do?

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And if you're enjoying this episode, make sure to share with one or two friends that you care about, people you wanna see shine, people you wanna celebrate in life, and you wanna keep reminding them of the authentic power they have inside of them so they can unleash it into the world. So again, share this with one or two friends that you care about as you listen to this.

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Not just sexual intimacy, but deeper connection.

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Make sure to tag me on social media so I can see what you're thinking and how you're reflecting on this episode. I'm so grateful you're here. I appreciate you. Without further ado, let's dive into this episode. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest.

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We have the inspiring Gary Zukav in the house, who's written four New York Times bestsellers, including one that was number one for many years called The Seat of the Soul. You've got a new book called Universal Human, which is about creating authentic power and the new consciousness. So good to see you. Grateful that you're here.

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And the last time we had you on, people loved it, but we were on Zoom. It was during the pandemic. Now we're in person and I'm excited for this moment because there is a lot of chaos, a lot of pain, a lot of uncertainty, a lot of fear in the world with so much that's shifting around political changes, around economic changes, around potential war changes or threats.

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How did you feel like you were able to heal after decades of living in sex and drug addiction? How were you finally?

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More the sex addiction then. How were you able to heal from feeling powerless to feeling powerful authentically and

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And I think that's what all of us want is authentic power, not being drawn to something else because we feel powerless. We're going to go have sex or we're going to go do drugs or we're going to go get success.

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And you talk about in this book, the difference between an old consciousness and a new consciousness. And I'm curious, what is the new conscious? And what do we need to let go of in order to step into this new way of being?

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What I'm hearing you say is authentic power is not reacting to your circumstances or to your environment based on how you feel, but feeling and knowing that there is sadness or fear and security in a situation, but rising above it and responding with authentic power in a conscious way, not a scared way.

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Am I actively planning to take steps in the future when I'm going to have more time to do it? If you're not doing it, you might feel like something's off. If there's a dream inside of you to write a book, to start creating content, to mentor young kids, whatever it might be, and you're not doing it, just get started a little bit.

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You have an amazing quote in the Seat of the Soul about this, where you say the remedy for an absence is a presence. Evil is an absence and therefore it cannot be healed with an absence by hating evil or one who is engaged in evil. You contribute to the absence of light and not to his presence. Hatred of evil does not diminish evil. It increases it.

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And that's a quote from your book, Seat of the Soul.

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Yeah, and so when we see something that is evil in the world or evil in our world through our friends or our family or community or politically, whatever it might be, when we see something that is evil or is perceived as evil, I'm hearing you say that hatred of evil does not diminish it, it increases it.

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So when we talk about evil and speaking bad about it, it sounds like it increases hatred in the world. So how do we flip that and bring light to hatred when everything seems to be in chaos?

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That's interesting because you can do unto others nice things, but not have it from a nice intentional place. You can be pleasant. I'm going to give them a gift. I'm going to say the right things.

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But if you're feeling negative about this coming from fear, if you're feeling resentful or comparing yourself or you're jealous or envious or righteous or judging about them, then your intention is out of alignment from your action.

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Right. So how important is it then or I guess how important is having a meaningful intention when trying to manifest our dreams and being appreciative and grateful of the dreams when we receive them. Because a lot of times we can accomplish the goals, but it's still not feel enough.

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And that. That's it. That's it. So how can someone then get clear on the intention they want to set up for themselves? Say if it's a teenager trying to get into a good school, if it's someone in their 20s trying to get a great career, someone in their 30s trying to get into a good marriage.

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You have this quote, which says this as well, in the seat of the soul, which again, I want everyone to get this book, because if you're feeling confused, this is going to give you a lot of clarity to get start with. Then we've got universal human, which would talk about true authentic power. But your quote on this is really interesting in the seat of the soul.

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You say that the decisions that you make and the actions that you take upon the earth are the means by which you evolve. At each moment, you choose the intentions that will shape your experiences and those things upon which you will focus your attention. These choices affect your evolutionary process. This is so for each person.

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So you're reinstating this part of the book right now about following the meaning, where you're feeling the meaning, the experiences and experiencing them, looking for counsel along the way to reflect on these things and seeing, essentially, if you feel like you're out of alignment or you're disconnected or it's dis-ease everywhere in your life,

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then you're going against the mothership of your soul. And the goal, what I'm hearing you say, is that the different personality within you, you want to try to align it within the wake of the mothership.

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So you can drop in and ride that wave, like you talked about surfing in the beginning, and kind of like a wake surfer, just ride the boat's wake and let it pull you towards the life you're meant to be living.

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I've been to Laos. It's a cool country. I mean, it's a different world, but yeah.

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You're a man child. You were like in a man's body, but you're living like a scared boy.

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Yeah, and that's at seedofthesoul.com slash podcast or anywhere you guys listen to podcasts. You can check that out. Great stuff over there.

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You talked about I want to ask you about karma because I've heard you mention this before But for those who maybe you're in again twenties thirties forties, whatever age group you're in If you feel like you've done bad things in the past, maybe you've hurt people You've been judgmental of people or maybe you physically harmed environments or situations where you feel like I was a bad person I did bad things

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Yeah, I've heard Joe Dispenza say that your personality is your personal reality. So if you're living in a frightened personality constantly, you're going to create a personal reality that is always on edge or frightened or worried.

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And if your personality is... In my opinion. Yeah, exactly. If your personality is... I'm safe. I'm loved. I'm enough. I'm going to take moment by moment. I'm going to be present. You're going to create that reality.

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Yes. Challenge them, go back into cultivating the loving part of you, the awareness part of you, and fill that with love is what I'm hearing you share.

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Wow. Well, I mean, speaking of that, you know, you went through decades of having really just intimate partners, but not true intimacy with women, right? You had a lot of sex.

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You had sex, but no intimacy or real connection, authentic connection, right?

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That's where the new consciousness is taking us in a world of uncertainty and a world of comparison in a world of trying to people please to fit in

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With all of your experience of the sex addiction then transitioning into having a beautiful spiritual relationship with a life partner for decades as well, how did you learn to shift out of the temptation world of pleasure-seeking and sex-seeking into true intimacy and spiritual partnership with the partner that you've had for so long?

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Because a lot of people are struggling in trying to find a spiritual partner. They want love, they want intimacy, but they struggle in relationship. And I'm curious, with all of your experience, how were you able to create that after years of struggling and finding love and intimacy?

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when the ego is driving personalities in the world, how can people believe that they can tap into love to create more effortlessly or to manifest more effortlessly or to have the life of their dreams more effortlessly when there's so much tension in their environment, in the media, in their nervous system, and they're clinging to ego versus love.

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Or just someone looking to create a spiritual relationship with someone.

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Start writing down a little bit of a game plan and start taking these steps. I'm in Spain working on this dream right now that I envisioned and planned nine months ago. Nine months ago, I wrote this down. At the end of last year, I wrote down on my calendar for this year that I will be in Spain this month. And I'm actively taking steps.

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every unconscious intention comes from fear the intention of love requires conscious choice there's something i want to add to this that you talk about in the seat of the soul this is a quote from you that says if you cannot love yourself you cannot love others and you cannot stand to see others loved yes which i think is really powerful

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Because most people don't know how to love themselves because we don't feel like we belong, like you mentioned. We feel like we aren't enough, we're not lovable. And when we see others loved, we can't stand that if we don't love ourselves.

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Especially when someone you really don't like or who's really hurt you in the past or done you wrong or taken advantage of you. It's like learning how to have compassion. Not meaning you have to be that person's best friend or even have them in your life. But how can you have compassion for someone you truly despise? That's another level of authentic love.

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Powerful. That's pure power. That it's powerful to live into that, but that's...

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Yeah, you talk about the five sensory in here as well in the seat of the soul. You have beautiful kind of diagram talking about this.

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I was just saw it here a second ago from five sensory human to multi-sensory human, from single object of detection to uses five senses and aware of non-physical reality, which is a lot of different detail in here on page 250 of seat of the soul that I want people to dive in more. If you're not understanding this fully, it'll give you more explanation.

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I've got a couple final questions for you gary. This has been really powerful and we'll have to do another You know longer episode as well in the future.

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Yeah, very helpful. And I want people to get, I've got a couple of final questions for you, but I want people to get the book, Universal Human, which is about creating authentic power and the new consciousness. But obviously start with the seed of the soul. If you haven't,

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this is kind of your first time coming to the school of greatness and you want to learn more about this stuff get this book first dive into it your uh you call your beloved linda you were together your spiritual partner together for 20 27 27 years you had a beautiful letter that you wrote about her when she uh i guess when her soul went home so i returned to non-physical reality

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over the last couple years ago. What was the greatest, what is the greatest lesson she has taught you since her soul has returned home?

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This is beautiful. This is beautiful. And I want people to get more. Again, start with the book, The Seed of the Soul, or you can start with your podcast, seedofthesoul.com slash podcast for these kind of 20-minute bite-sized soul snacks, I think you call them.

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Well, Gary, I want to acknowledge you for the human you are and the person you continue to choose to create to be, which is compassionate, loving, courageous, giving, present, connected, and a generous human being. And I'm just really grateful for your time, your energy, your presence, your wisdom, your lessons, your correcting of me when I forget to use the part of me that is frightened saying.

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And I'm just so grateful for your time. I think this is going to really inspire and help a lot of people that watch and listen. And I want people to dive in deeper on your work because I think it is so powerful and how we can reflect on the parts of us that are afraid or insecure or unlovable or the parts of us that feel those things and how we can start to choose a different path moving forward.

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Thank you. Into alignment, into harmony, into peace.

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Well, you packaging the information and putting it out there.

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You're wrapping it and putting it on text and sharing it is helpful. We all need information that we can understand because all this information is coming through us in some ways, but how we can communicate it effectively so others can understand. Thank you.

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You're doing amazing. I have one final question for you. I asked you this last time, so I'm going to ask it in a little bit different way. If you could go as far out in the future as possible to the last day, you get to live as long as you want to live, but it's the last day for you.

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What's the piece of advice your future self would give your current self on how to live the most beautiful time for as much time as you can live left?

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That's a great answer. I'll take it. I'll take it. Kerry, thank you so much for being here. I appreciate you. This is beautiful and powerful. And I'm inspired by everything you shared. Thank you very much. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you wanna make it easier, you wanna make it flow, you wanna feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is gonna help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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I couldn't do everything nine months ago towards this dream, but I took steps that I could take, and then I planned to take action now. And I'm telling you what, I've been here for two weeks. I've been working on this dream of mine, and it's been a lot of hard work. It's not been easy. It hasn't been enjoyable every second because sometimes big dreams take time.

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What do you think shifted inside of you from being a sex addict and being attracted to pleasures to being able to align your soul to attract a spiritual partner that was beyond the pleasure world?

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If you are looking to understand the mindsets that will help you create wealth and abundance in your life, then this is for you. So buckle up right now. I have interviewed hundreds of the world's top money experts and the wealthiest people who have not only created massive abundance in their lives, but also cultivated, powerful inner peace.

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Well, most people make $1,000 and they spend 1,500. Yeah. They use their credit card to spend more than what they have because they think, well, I'll be able to pay this off next month because I have another $1,000 coming in. Exactly. And then they get into more and more debt because they're over consuming.

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I'll spend a certain amount on the things I like, but I'm not going to overspend. Or I like it where you just say, I'm going to reinvest a certain amount of my money every single month of the money that's coming in, whether it's a paycheck or your business. I'm going to take that money. This much is going every month into my investments, whatever that might be.

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And then if I want to spend the rest on a vacation or... you know, extra guacamole or whatever it is. Cool. Enjoy your life as well. Right. You don't have to live the most frugal life as well. You don't have to be so extreme, but I think first take your money to invest.

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Then spend on some activities and events and go to concerts. Cool. I get it.

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I'm a big fan. of Jasprit. He has incredible content and every time we have him on, it just takes off and people love it. And I want to remind you, you don't have to figure everything out on your own. The key is really finding mentors who have models that are successful that you can mimic. People who have already walked the path that you want to take. Don't try to do it all on your own.

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Reach out to some people who are even just a little bit farther than you who can support you. Surround yourself with people who are where you want to be financially. Their mindset will influence you. And again, that's one of the reasons why we have so many powerful financial leaders and experts on this show is to give you and provide you free resources and content to help you

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even if you don't have access to those individuals in your own city or in your own community. So feel free to come back and check out more of our content with these wealth experts at any time. And every month, ask yourself, how am I using money to invest in my future? Am I wasting money in my life or am I using it to learn new skills, to overcome challenges, to improve something in my life?

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Because if you believe rich people are evil, you don't wanna become that belief of evil.

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Ask yourself this and make sure you're surrounding yourself with the right money mentors. And speaking of many mentors, this next guest, Ken Honda, is a money mentor for me. And he's sharing how to align with abundance and let go of scarcity thinking. Because so many of us have been in stages of life or seasons of life where we felt scarce.

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And that feeling, that energy of scarcity does not attract or create abundance. So let's hear from one of my money mentors, Ken Honda, right now.

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So how does someone know where their seat is and know how to sit in it and be happy with their seat?

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Do you have a meditation or affirmation process for someone on how they can trust their heart, listen to their heart deeper, to know they're on the right path? Right. Do you have something that you use yourself or that other people can use? Mm-hmm.

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What happens when your heart is not excited. Let's say you have a project you're working on. I'm assuming all of your books you're excited about, but maybe there's an event you're supposed to go to or something that you said yes to. And you realize your heart is not excited about this. What do you do then? Do you do it, but then you don't repeat it the next time?

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Or what do you, how do you navigate that?

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I think a lot of people don't understand the power of a daily affirmation or a daily check-in with yourself, just like you talked about for two minutes. For someone that doesn't believe in affirmations,

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What are the beliefs that most people have around money that are holding them back then? Is it that money's bad or people with money are takers or what is it?

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And can you tell me how we can think about money as energy? In the book also, I saw you writing about how money is energy and sometimes people try to make it and hold on to it. They want to hold on to it. They want to stack it in their bank as high as they can go and they don't want to spend it. Sometimes it happens.

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What happens when we hoard money, when we keep it and we don't let it come and go as energy?

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Thank you for being here, go bless the world, come back as quick as possible with more friends.

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So how should people be thinking about this so they have enough safety and security, they have enough in the bank for if something goes bad in the economy, they've saved enough, but also they're not just overspending as well. Some people who have the personality where they just spend, spend, spend, then they go into debt, right? So how do we...

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balance money so that we have enough for the future and we're not in debt.

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I know people like that. So what should people be spending their money on? So they don't feel like I'm just blowing money and wasting it.

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And today we're diving into four of the most powerful money mindset takeaways from some incredible guests we've had on the School of Greatness. Now, these insights will completely shift how you think about wealth, about abundance and financial success.

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What happens with your clients when you say, okay, go spend a few hundred dollars a day or leave money out on the table for someone to pick it up and you do these experiments? What do these individuals say? afterwards, a month later, a year later about giving their money or spending it, not all of it, but some of it in these experiments.

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You have experiences, life memories.

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if you don't spend the money you don't get all the fun memories right again ken talks about letting your heart guide to where you're supposed to be let your heart guide you where you're supposed to be and sometimes when we feel anxious around money when we feel scarce around money it traps our hearts we need to learn to calm that so we can be guided

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and make sure we're in alignment of doing the right things that work for us around our money instead of doing things that are harmful around our money. The daily affirmations that you share with yourself matter. You're telling yourself a story about money every day. Why not make it a positive one? Start speaking positive affirmations internally or externally.

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Start writing things that are positive and communicating things to other people that are positive as well. Money isn't just about numbers. Money is energy. And if you're constantly stressed about it, that energy repels abundance and constantly creates more of that scarce feeling. So trust that when you let go of scarcity thinking, money finds its way back to you.

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In this next moment, we have Rob Dial, who's going to be sharing about the power of writing an empowering story to attract more in your life. If someone's broke and they want more money, how can they create a story, a narrative, a script, or a story that will empower them to attract more?

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Dude, it's so funny you say this. Isn't that crazy? It's so funny you say this because I still don't really buy myself anything. I mean, I bought a nice home. Yeah, you bought a beautiful home. I'm buying like... You know, I'm not buying things to like show off that I have money though. Like I don't showcase my home. I'm not like taking photos of it and posting it online and like, look at me.

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What do you think causes people to stay in procrastination mode for long periods of time? What is that reason they stay in procrastination?

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Yeah, and I think you gotta have the why that's strong enough is the main thing because whether it's a million dollars or a hundred thousand or whatever the number is, You know, first off, do you want that thing bad enough and why do you want it? If it's the million dollars as an example, why do you need that? And why can't you be happy with where you're at? Or, you know, whatever it might be.

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And do you need that to impress people? Or is it because you have a greater purpose you want to use that money for, right? Because you want to build a company, you want to empower people, you want to donate it. So you have to understand why you want something and be clear that it's not just serving ego, but it's serving something greater than you. I think that's when the river opens up. Yep.

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My friend got me a Rolex for my 40th birthday last year. I think I've worn it like seven times. Cause part of me is still kind of like, should I be wearing this? Talk to me about that. You know, it's well, part of it is not my style. You know, I don't like to, you know, part of it's like, I just wear the same black thing. Just like you're wearing a black t-shirt. Exactly. So that's part of it.

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And it widens and all the boulders go away when you say, I want this thing for me, but also so I can serve or empower others. For sure. Then it's like the Mississippi, you know, it's like, it's wide. This is the biggest river there is. But when it's only for you, I feel like later down the line, you're going to hit a dam. Of course you are.

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You might attract what you want, but then eventually get blocked up because it's all about you as opposed to about others, including you.

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The other part of it is, is. know i don't want to reject money coming my way by by not wearing it but it's also like how are people going to are they going to judge me or they don't want more from me are they going to be thinking i should be doing more it's just like do you also do i want to attract some type of judgment that is unnecessary i don't know it's like it's kind of a lot of that

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This is following up with the previous clip. It's something I appreciate so much that Rob shares about, which is your language dictates your reality as well. We talked about our beliefs, the way we think earlier in this episode, how these beliefs change. influence our behaviors. But the things you say, the things you speak into existence, they have a presence. They have a power.

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They have an energy. They influence your beliefs as well. And your language dictates your reality. To take action on your goals, Rob says to start today by saying, today I am committed to the action that will make me successful. And sometimes people think like there's so many big actions I need to take that just seems so daunting. Start with the action today.

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What is one thing that you can improve upon today to support you in your growth around money or really around anything in your life to create more peace in your life? It might be a hard conversation you need to have. It might be sticking to your word by getting up at a certain time. It might be moving your body. It might be resting. But whatever it is that you need,

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Listen to your needs and live in accordance with that today. It will help you for tomorrow. Speak in a way that reinforces action and a presence. And when you affirm your commitment to wealth, you naturally start taking steps towards that commitment. So again, This is something you can do right now.

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I hope you've enjoyed these four guests who have shared some life-changing insights on wealth and mindset. Make sure to leave a comment below on what part of this episode resonate with you the most because your beliefs about money dictate your financial reality. So make sure they're serving you and not holding you back.

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And if you're looking to create financial freedom and you want to have more abundance within you and also have a richer life around you, you want to have richer relationships, you want to have a richer environment, then make sure to grab a copy right now of my new book, Make Money Easy. The link is in the description right below. You can go on Amazon right now and get a copy as well.

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Get a couple copies for friends because this will give you the tools to really support you in healing the relationship that you have with money so your relationship with money is an empowering one for you instead of one that you're afraid of or you don't understand. If you want those tools, they're all in the book along with the seven habits to unlock abundance within money in your life.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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I'm not afraid of the rise and fall because I'm in the bottom.

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And if you're looking to create financial freedom and live a richer life, then make sure to dive in deeper into my new book, Make Money Easy, which will give you the tools to unlocking abundance in your life. let's jump into this first moment with Dan Martell. And when we had Dan on, it took over. This episode really blew up for so many people.

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What do most ultra rich people say around why they can't own that they're uber wealthy by speaking about it?

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Who are the wealthiest people that you know, that you respect based on how they live their life? And what are the things that they do that you respect the most about them?

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Yeah, I mean, Gary's- What are the characteristics about the wealthy like Gary that you respect?

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And in this clip, he's gonna be talking about are your beliefs keeping you broke? And again, our beliefs influence our behaviors in life. And if your results around your money are not where you want them to be right now, we need to start with our beliefs. So let's dive in. What are the belief systems that keep people bankrupt or broke?

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Again, such a powerful moment with Dan Martell and our beliefs shape our reality. Again, you hear Joe Dispenza say, our personality is our personal reality. And again, our beliefs shape are behaviors which create our environment and our reality.

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And so many of us have negative money beliefs without even realizing it because we haven't really been aware of it and reflected on these beliefs in the past. For example, if you think rich people are evil, you're already setting yourself up to reject wealth subconsciously.

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Feeling guilty about money or success in your life, that guilt holds you back from achieving more and also feeling good about what you've created, what you've worked so hard for. So that's something you need to be mindful of and reflecting on. Are your beliefs blocking you from your abundance?

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In this next moment, we have the inspiring Jaspreet Singh, who is a wealth teacher and educator who's going to be sharing about the number one shift you can make to build wealth. So let's dive in.

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How does someone who has been conditioned for decades around certain money beliefs all of a sudden educate themselves, get the tools, get the information and say, no, everything I've been taught for the last 20, 30 years of my life is a lie around money. And therefore, you know, have I been living a lie myself? Am I a fraud? Are these people that I've been telling me this, can I trust them?

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My parents, like your whole world blows up essentially. It does. It blows up. And so how does someone navigate the emotions of, oh, all these things my parents who I love, who are well-intended have taught me around money, have kind of been holding me back. And I understand they try to protect me, but it's really limited me. How do we deal with that?

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And then start educating ourselves to break free of money limits, of money scarcity, of money insecurity, so that we can have more financial peace and emotional peace around money.

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Well, a broke person on how to make money.

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Both. I get the coffee before the exercise. That coffee sounds pretty good when you're tired. So how long will that positive effect last for? If you're sleep deprived the night before, you wake up, you got a lot going on, but you're tired, you got to wake up and get started. You do a 10, 15 minute HIIT style workout. How long will that make you feel awake?

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or feel sharp and clear, like how long would that last for?

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And then you're gonna, you're exhausting yourself, then you're exhausted, yeah.

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Is this actually mattering? Is this making a difference? She talks about the power of it and why you need to be paying attention to it and which supplements matter for you. That and so much more. I'm so excited that you're here today. I'm grateful for you. If you're enjoying this, make sure to click the follow button over on Apple or Spotify.

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And how long do you think that would last? Like if you're going from LA to Florida one day, you sleep four or five hours a night, you gotta wake up early. you work out, you got your speech, like how, could you go till dinner pretty sharp? Or is it really gonna last for like three hours? That's sharpness, before it starts to fade.

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Like, all right, I did this HIIT workout, now I can go another 24 hours sleep deprived and still be on.

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Yep. Speaking of naps, how important are naps? Are they helpful or hurtful for a human in their circadian rhythm in their sleep process?

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And try to go to bed a little earlier that night maybe if you can.

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Leave us a review and share this with one friend that you think this could be helpful for. If you've got a friend in mind who's trying to optimize their health, send them a link to this audio episode. Share with them and ask them to share with you their biggest takeaway. Without further ado, let's dive into this with Dr. Rhonda Patrick. Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness.

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Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Dr. Rhonda Patrick in the house. So good to see you. Thank you for being here. First time in person on the show, but second time on the show, right?

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and it's it's it's kind of eye-opening that even just doing two to six minutes now when i gave you those statistics that was the six minute that was the upper end so the six minutes a day but six minutes a day who doesn't have six minutes a day i mean why does it seem like when sometimes i hear people say oh i'm gonna i'm gonna try this once every two hours or set an alarm every hour at my desk and i'm gonna get up and i'm gonna do 10 push-ups right or or 20 sit-ups or whatever it might be or 10 air squats

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I'm so excited that you're here. I've been a fan of your content for a long time. You've been serving humanity to help people improve their life by giving them the exact scientific peer reviewed protocols. and continually updating and optimizing these protocols over time for many years. Your podcast, your YouTube channel, your guides, your newsletter, they all add a lot of value to so many people.

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And yeah, it seems so easy to do it for 60 seconds, five times a day, right? Five minutes, 60 seconds, five times a day. Why is it that so few people do it consistently? They might try it for a day or two, but then they just stop. to do five minutes, 60 seconds five times a day. Why does it seem so hard for people to be consistent with this style of movement?

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When did you feel like, though, you needed to get into resistance training? Because you've been studying, you know, the body health for a long time. I mean, you're the expert in this. You took it to your mid 40s to say, oh, I'm actually gonna lift weights and do resistance and get into this. Why did you resist getting into resistance training sooner?

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I mean, you start to- You can't just get away with it now.

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So I'm grateful that you're here. And there was something that we were talking about before we jumped on camera, which was around sleep. And I have a statistic, a couple stats that I saw online about sleep, and I want to have you reflect and share on this. because you have so many different levels of expertise around sleep, nutrition, supplements, food, training, and really optimizing the body.

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Slow it down once you get big. Yeah. You're not going to get big overnight. Yeah.

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But weren't you learning about this, you know, 5, 10, 15, 20 years ago as well? Like seeing the resistance training and building muscles helpful for longevity and helpful for recovery and all these different things as well?

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So you were hearing this 20 years ago as an anti-aging research.

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But at this season of your life, I think we were talking about beforehand, sleep is something that people need to think about and their ability to work out and to physically build muscle and strength and aerobic exercise. But I saw a survey, a WebMD survey found that an average American sleeps 5.7 hours a night. I'm not sure how accurate that is, but 5.7 hours a night.

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But if you're doing a lot of physical activity and you're not eating protein, what's going to happen?

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That's good to know. Part of me was worried like if you're training too hard, does that make you die younger?

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And I also saw the National Institutes of Health says that six or seven hours of sleep is not enough and can lead to chronic sleep deprivation. I'm curious. Simple question. How many hours of sleep a night do you think humans actually do need to function at a high level? And if we don't sleep that much, what does that mean, this chronic sleep deprivation?

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Sure. What do you consider as sedentary? What is a sedentary lifestyle?

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They get up, they go to take a shower, they walk to get food, whatever. But they go to their school or they go to their office, but that's it.

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They're getting like maybe 1,000 steps a day, 2,000 steps a day maybe. What is that like?

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What does that actually do to the body if we don't sleep enough?

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They must have got paid a lot of money for that. I don't know. That's...

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Three weeks. Three weeks. Couldn't even get up to go to the bathroom.

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How often are you studying? I've actually never tested my VO2 max.

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And what do you get? You get the distance, the time, and then what?

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They probably transformed... They didn't even look like the same person.

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They can function with less, but is it optimizing their body and their mind with less?

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What's been the biggest thing that you've noticed kind of going all in on this high intensity interval training, VO2 max, optimization over the last year, year and a half? What's the big thing you've seen in yourself personally?

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And a lot of the talk that's been in the health world or just in the atmosphere lately has been about glucose spikes. When you lose sleep, what happens to your glucose spikes, I guess, in the body? And also when you're high intensity training, what happens to your glucose levels?

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And the way around that really- Is that with sedentary, with being sedentary or with having too much sugar consistently?

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Does that mean when they eat, processed or sugary foods, they have a high glucose spike. And then if they don't move, they can't process it better.

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After a meal. So you enjoy a meal out with friends. You know you're going to eat poorly. You're having a celebration. You're eating desserts. You're having all the fats, all the things. when should you do this vigorous workout? Like right after you finish or like 30 minutes after?

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Yeah, yeah, I can function on five hours, and I'm good, and I'm easy. Yeah, but how, maybe you can function now, but can you function in 20, 30 years?

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How long are you doing it for? Are you doing like 10 minutes right then? Or are you doing like...

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How much benefit would that actually give you? Let's say you have a bucket of ice cream. You eat and then you have, not a bucket, but three scoops of ice cream. You have a lot of ice cream after you eat, big meal, you're having cheese, you're having the breads, you're having everything. Then you got your ice cream. I mean, it's like a glucose spike, right?

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how much can just five minutes of air squats actually help?

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And will that affect your body later because you sleep deprived now?

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As one of the leading anti-aging experts in the world, you've been studying this for a long time, right? 20 plus years you've been studying anti-aging, right?

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But you've been doing this for two decades of anti-aging studying, right? You've been diving deep into this research. As someone who's been studying this for two decades plus,

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What has been the biggest shock for you in the last few years around how to live longer and anti-aging that you thought 20 years ago, this is the way, but actually you're starting to wake up and see new research or studies or personal strategies that you're like, oh, that's not the way, this is actually the way.

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And like, what, reverse o'clock 10 years overnight or something?

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Are you testing any of this stuff on yourself? Are you doing any stem cell injections or like going to these labs and trying these things? Or are you just researching and noticing?

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Because even on your speech that you had with Dr. Valtolongo, he was saying people thought it was 16 hours. Now it's actually more 12-hour time-restricted. Is that right? I don't know if that's the new research.

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We have an inspiring guest, Dr. Rhonda Patrick, who has been on before, but it's been a few years. And I wanted to really get clarity because she has so much research. She does so much great content that I wanted to try to simplify some of the things that are happening right now in the health and fitness space. There's so many different opinions.

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So when should you stop eating before you go to sleep? Like how much time should you have before you go to sleep?

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But isn't it good to sleep cold? Isn't that like dark room, cold?

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I mean, you know, food plays a big part in it. What would you say would be a few foods that you would recommend to help with optimal sleep. With optimal sleep? Like what three to five foods should we be eating to support us in sleeping better and what should we remove to help us sleep better?

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Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, if you could create an optimal day protocol, let's just say you have all things perfect in life and you can wake up, go to sleep at a certain time, eat what you want, train the way you want, do hot, do cold, like you have a perfect day all the time in the world. How would you set up your perfect day protocol with sleep, food and workouts?

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For yeah, optimal human protocol for longevity, for optimal strength currently. Like what would that perfect day look like for you? What would you eat? When would you wake up?

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How would you train? Would you do any like heat, cold, you know, any of that stuff? Would you do a...

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So I'll have... So a little bit of food before the workout, then more after.

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Where do you think you'd be without taking supplements? You think you'd still be as healthy and optimal as you are? Or is it just more of a psychological boost for you?

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And the only way you can get omega-3, is that from fish?

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But you can't eat too much fish because of mercury, right?

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Do you have a list on your site anywhere of all the supplements you take?

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That's the thing. It's like what you took two years ago is different than this year.

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If you could only take three supplements a day, and you're only allowed three right now, what would you take consistently?

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Okay. To simplify it for people. If they're like, I can't take these 30 supplements and I don't know, you know.

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Right, right. But then you'd be focusing on the magnesium-based foods.

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Okay, top five supplements. What if you could only get five supplements a day? What would those top five be?

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Okay. Amazing. Was this, I don't know if I interrupted you for your perfect day, but that would be the, would there be anything else?

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This is amazing. I'm so glad that you came back on the show. I want to tell people what they can get your stuff because you've got a lot of great reports, podcasts, everything. So if people aren't following you yet, we're going to have all this linked up.

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But is it more audio that you want to send people to or the YouTube is where you focus on more for your podcast because you have an amazing resource that I want people to get.

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But they can listen on audio as well, but YouTube's kind of where you put more focus right now.

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We'll link up the YouTube. It's Found My Fitness, Dr. Rhonda Patrick's show over there. But make sure you guys subscribe. Make sure you listen to it, watch it. It's amazing content. And you only put it out once in a while when you've really done research on a subject where you go deep on something. So...

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It's important to be watching, listening, and subscribed to it when it comes out because it's all great stuff. And this stuff is evolving. You know, the research, the science seems like it's evolving. So you're getting the latest stuff, you're implementing it, and then you're sharing it with everyone, right?

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I saw the, I saw the how to train one and it can go, it's a free guide.

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how to train guide.com. You've got a few other guys as well, but that one is really like I watched it and breaks down everything from every muscle group on how to do exactly what you need to do to optimize it. Right.

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For all the training from aerobic to lifting, to hit all that stuff based on the experts, based on the science. Um, the other one you have is, uh,

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Okay. So if you want to learn the best supplements, it's there.

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Okay, perfect. So we'll have that one linked up, fmfomega3guide.com. And then you've got one more, Protocol for Improving Cognitive Memory, which is huge.

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Yeah, I'm not a fan of blueberries, like the taste and the flavor. So the cocoa via powder, I'm going to try that for sure.

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And is the about the same amount as a couple of blueberries or something or that would give you the.

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So they can get all these protocols there. We'll link it up as well. And I'm assuming they're on your website as well, correct? Foundmyfitness.com or... Foundmyfitness.com.

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We'll link them up for people. You're on social media as well, everywhere, FoundMyFitness. What's your main social media space right now? Is it mostly on YouTube? Are you on Instagram?

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There's a lot. There's a lot. You should get on there though. I think it'd be good to have someone post your content there for sure. A couple of final questions for you. Before I ask Rhonda, I want to acknowledge you for the 20 years of consistency and saying, and also constantly researching and questioning your current beliefs or your previous beliefs and saying, how can I improve these beliefs?

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How can I not hold onto these? If there's something new, I'm willing to try that and share that with people as well. And I think that's really important that you're willing to do that. So I want to acknowledge you for constantly being in this mission to serve humanity, to help people learn this information, learn easier because it does seem so confusing.

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There's so much content out there teaching stuff and You know, I feel like I have so many different leading experts on and I'm still confused sometimes. So I appreciate you for breaking down like an optimal day and explaining it step by step and also trying to simplify some of these things because it can seem so overwhelming. And a lot of people don't have your brain.

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So I appreciate you creating guides for people. Like here's the step-by-step approach. And I'm just grateful that you are alive today because we need people like you to help us be better. So I'm grateful that you're constantly diving the research and helping people. So thank you for what you do and for being here and for sharing this on my show. It means a lot.

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It's been four years, so I'm glad you're back. And I want to acknowledge you for... implementing this in your life. You seem like you're, I told you before when I saw you a few weeks ago and today I was like, man, you look really healthy, really fit, strong, like younger.

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So you're applying this to yourself and I'm glad you're implementing it because sometimes there's experts that teach, but they don't do it themselves. So I'm grateful you're doing it for yourself and seeing the benefits. It seems like it's really working. So congrats on everything.

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We'll make it happen, for sure. I think I asked you this question. I have two final questions. I think I asked you this before. But I'm curious if there's going to be a different answer. It's called the three truths. So imagine a hypothetical scenario. You get to live as long as you want, but it's your last day on earth. And you get to live as long as you want, 100, 200, whatever you want.

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But eventually you've got to die. You get to accomplish everything you want in this life. All your dreams come true. But for whatever reason, you have to take all of your work with you. So everything you've created in this life, you got to take it somewhere else. Whether you die, it's just got to erase, or it's just not here for the world. So this conversation's gone.

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All your content you've made in your podcast, gone. Books, it's all gone. Hypothetical. But on the last day, you get to leave behind three truths. And this is all we would have of your content. Three lessons. What would those three truths be for you?

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Just from like, the only three things you can leave behind, these lessons, what would those three things be?

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And I like to get the best expert with the best research that can help us optimize the different parts of our life where we're struggling in all areas of life. And in this episode, she really shares some surprising things, especially the surprising connection between resistance training, lactate production, and brain health, which I want you to pay attention to when we get into it.

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Yeah, okay. So exercise daily, social connections, and focus on the food and vitamins you need.

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To optimize it, yeah. That's beautiful, I love those truths. Simple. Final question, what's your definition of greatness?

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Yeah, and you have a quote on this that I saw online that said, even one hour of sleep less per night for three nights can disrupt how your body processes sugar and lead to mild insulin resistance. But some good news here, HIIT can almost reverse it. So can you go with less sleep but then train hard and reverse the negative effects?

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Also, how to time your workouts and meals for optimal glucose regulation and cognitive performance. And she talks about one main supplement that I thought I was applying to my nutritional intake on a daily basis, but I'm not doing it enough. And she talks about the critical role of omega-3 fatty acids in longevity and why supplementation matters. I always go back and forth on supplementation.

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But is it pulling it from like visceral fat or more from the food that you just intake?

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So if I know I'm going to get less sleep tonight, Is it useful to say, let me do a hard, high intensity interval training workout six hours before or in the morning and really push myself kind of hard for these 30 to 45 minutes, knowing I'm gonna get less sleep and I'm gonna need to be on the next day.

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Like I've got a lot of meetings and I'm running around and I'm traveling and I'm gonna be, you know, jet lagged. What will that do for your mind or your body the next day?

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Really? So you wake up sleep deprived. You should go do it then?

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I forgot my keys. I got to go back. I'm like, I'm going to sleep right now.

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Yeah. And I think that's, you know, something I've heard you talk about and read in your books before about really taking a long time to hire someone. Spending a lot. I think it's like 13 or 15 interviews. Used to be. We got down to seven. OK. Out of control. Still harder to get on here than the FBI. Yeah. Right.

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And just like, I don't know how long it usually takes, a months long process for people to come. And I think as an entrepreneur when you're starting or when you have a smaller business, you feel like you need to fill that position now because you're running on the treadmill.

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And until you find that person, and so sometimes we as entrepreneurs might cut corners or just say, oh, they seem like a great fit. after one interview in 30 minutes and no reference checks. So let's put them into place. And then it's six months, a year of trying to make something work that isn't in alignment.

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1,200 employees in Nashville, an amazing facility that I was at for the entire day doing some press with my book launch, but also interviewing Dave for the School of Greatness. And the man just has a presence about him. He just has a character about him.

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Yeah. What would you say after 35 years in this business is the biggest mistake you've made in the last few years? And maybe it's, I know these principles, I teach these principles, but still sometimes I'm a knucklehead or I just kind of was rushed this thing and it, what was I thinking? I knew better. Was there anything that like that in the last few years?

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I'm not saying he's some perfect human being, but he has built something inspiring that has lasted and will continue to last for many years to come. And it's powerful to watch how he's built a business based on values and character. And it doesn't mean everyone likes it and everyone agrees with it, but he has built something based on his values. And those values attract the right people.

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Um, you really have to live the message.

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We're talking about your book today, Build a Business You Love, Mastering the Five Stages of Business. One of the questions I have for you around this topic is I think it's really interesting because when a lot of people see your content and think of you, I think that they think that

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you don't make any mistakes, essentially, because of just how, you know, whatever Dave does, even if it's a mistake, he just keeps getting bigger and more successful and the business grows and more people come and he can hire anyone. So I appreciate you sharing, like, you know, we dropped our guard a little bit. We just hired great people, but not the great fit.

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And maybe there were some challenges there that you had to face. Yeah, I mean, you let crazy in the building. You know, that's what happens. I'm always fascinated by your spiritual practice within yourself before you come into this place every single day. Because I know this is a part of your life in a big way and this is part of your values.

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Is there something you think about within your spiritual practice of an intention before you come here every day, before you do a show, before you have a meeting, before anything that really grounds you for what you're about to take on for the day?

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And those people, he invests in them and they appreciate in value. And if you're looking to build anything, if you're looking to build a business, a side hustle, a side project, your art, your music, and put it out into the world, there are three rules of business that no entrepreneur is exempt from

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I mean, you talk about perseverance, and I think God, for me, I feel like God has, I guess, tested me or put me in challenging situations where I've had to have courage. I've had to develop the courage to be able to persevere so that I can take on more and steward different challenges.

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in this interview he also shares some tactical things to do with growing your business and setting up the business the processes the people the product all these different things but there's one element of this interview that we kept coming back to and it's his secret weapon which is his wife and he talks about how his wife uses one skill to make some of the biggest decisions in his business and

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I mean, what is the thing you've had to persevere the most in the last few years, either personally or professionally?

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And did you know that your value appreciates every time you use your skill set to help someone else? I talk about this in my new book. That's a quote from my book, Make Money Easy. Your value appreciates every time you use your skill set to help someone else.

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Six weeks, huh? Yeah, I was gone. What would it look like to take three months off and have the personality? Do you think it would grow? Yeah, I think it will.

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You talk about it in the book that there's six drivers of business. You know, the personal one, which is kind of the first one, which is you're both the problem and the solution. And I'm hearing you say that in this part, you know, by limiting your drivingness in the business down to 20%, you know, there's...

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That's a solution for you, but it's also hurting you maybe that you're not as in control as you once were with your baby.

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And it's something that she's developed over time that is appreciated over time. And he's tried to go against it and just go with his own gut at times. And it's burned him. But every time he has to make a big decision, he leans on his wife and a superpower that she has. And it's the critical difference between the success and really making things easier versus harder.

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I love that you always talk about your wife and kind of the journey and how she's been a cheerleader and supported you throughout this and probably given you some tough love at different times as well, maybe when you made some mistakes. Every day. Every day. I'm wondering if you can share some wisdom for me.

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I just got married, and for those who are also business owners or entrepreneurs who are in a marriage, whether they've been married for a while and they're launching into business or they've had a business and they're launching into marriage, What advice do you have for either me or those in that situation on how to make sure you can have a thriving marriage while handling a business?

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So I'm excited for you to dive into this today. I hope you enjoy this episode with the one and only Dave Ramsey. Welcome back, everyone. I am excited to be here today. I'm in Nashville at the Ramsey headquarters. Dave Ramsey in the house. So good to see you, sir. You too. Welcome back. Thank you. It's exciting, man.

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That's for the business as well?

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So, yeah, that's huge. That's how it works. So a lot of your business then, I'm hearing you say, is based on a feeling of your wife. Yeah. The big single stuff.

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I gotta come back more often. You know, maybe you'll invite me back more often. Every couple years I get back. It's nice. And the reason I'm back is because you got a new book. And I'm excited about this. I was able to dive into this, build a business you love. And I think a lot of people want to build a business they love, but they stress about it. They have a lot of overwhelm.

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I mean, at the end of the day, what I'm hearing you say, correct me if I'm wrong, it sounds like if something feels off in that final interview, it doesn't matter how good they look on paper, where they went to school, where they worked before, they're not coming here.

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They have a lot of stress. They have a lot of anxiety. They go into it thinking, I have this big dream, or I want to serve people in a bigger way. but then they try to do it all themselves and it becomes this daunting thing that they, it's a nightmare.

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Yeah. Just trust it. Yeah. It was good for him. It's so interesting that, you know, that energy and that spirit is something that continues to guide you today like it did in the early days as well. And it helps build what you have right now. Yeah.

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You talk about these six drivers in business in the book, building a business you love. We talked about personal, there's purpose, people, plan, product, and profit, which you say profit is making money with integrity. Has there ever been a time where you were trying to make easy money, that it wasn't integrity, it wasn't... making money with the value of the principles that you have.

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You're like, Oh, that's a quick, quick thing I could do right there. Easy money as opposed to. Yeah.

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And I think small business owners have had a tough time in the last few years, obviously with COVID, inflation, political changes, just uncertainty, egg prices, all these things are kind of all over the place. And it's really hard for some of them to navigate how to manage a team and also manage their mindset while they're trying to build and launch a business.

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Don't put your voice on it. That's great that you guys do that because I think a lot of companies would just say, make as much money as you can, take whatever you can get. And at School of Greatness, there's a lot of stuff that I won't do. I've never been, not this is bad or wrong, but it's just against what I do.

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I've never been drunk or high, so I don't do any type of drugs or pharmaceuticals or things like that for me just because it's not what I believe in for me. Right. I don't do gambling stuff. I don't do any of those type of ads. We don't either, yeah. And it's just a lot of money there, though. Yeah. A lot of people throwing a lot of money.

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Yeah, when you're trying to survive or just stay afloat. How do you, I don't know, maybe this is a weird question for you, but when you're making money with integrity, which you talk about in the book, and you say no to money, essentially, like someone's trying to give you a sponsorship, endorsement deal, whatever it might be, an advertisement, and you're like, no, that just doesn't feel right.

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How do you think about that spiritually for you about how either God is going to set you up for something greater or you're not missing out on the opportunity? What is the spiritual mindset you have in that moment?

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And for those that are struggling or scrambling or just trying to figure this out, what should they be thinking? Should they even be thinking that they can build a business they love in this season of life? Or what should they be thinking in the world right now in small business.

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You're like, ah. Pull it back, yeah. Ah, dad got it. I know, right? One of the drivers of business you talk about in the book is people. And for whatever reason, when I think about you and the Ramsay brand, I think about culture. That's just the thing that I hear a lot. Every time I come here, I feel it. Going back to feelings. Walk in, you feel like you're home.

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You've just got an energy here and a presence of the people. I'm sure every now and then people are off or whatever, but in general, the culture here... is a beautiful feeling, going back to your wife's word. And you see it, just the inspiration, the quotes, the scripture, the attitude, the energy, the effort that people bring here.

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People show up, they're on time, they're organized, and they're positive, right? And it doesn't seem like people are overworked or exhausted or just like, ah, you're here 12 hours a day. They have structure and they have organization. We go home at five, yeah. But you got to be in every day and you got to do your job and you got to get results and you got to be a good person.

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And I feel like that's where a lot of people struggle is building the culture and the team. What would you say is the main things that have allowed you to continue to thrive culturally? If someone is never going to be able to come here, what does this place have? that most places don't have that allow you guys to continue to thrive?

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But that's normal in other places. What about if someone's really talented and they're actually driving the business growth, but they got a nasty attitude because they're undertone. They can't stay. They just frustrated. They're kind of disgruntled.

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Really? Yeah. So how important is attitude and energy? It's more important than talent. Really? And over results?

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So if you feel stuck or trapped or stagnant in life, think about how you can use something inside of you, a resource, a hidden skill, a hidden talent, a tangible skill that you have, and help someone today. When you do that, you appreciate in value because you're adding value and generosity to someone else.

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Wow. The positive energy. It's there. I mean, that's God's spirit. Final. I have one final question because I'm running out of time here before I ask the question. I want people to get the book, RamseySolutions.com slash build. You can go there and check this out or you can go to RamseySolutions.com. You can see the book.

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The book is called Build a Business You Love, Mastering the Five Stages of Business. And there are really kind of six drivers of business that you talk about on how to master as well. The six drivers push you through the five stages. Yes. And this becomes the baby steps for small business. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Beautiful. It's really inspiring.

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I love the golf stories and the golf analogies in the beginning as well. But if you guys are looking to launch a business, you're in a business that's not getting to the next level, make sure you pick up a few copies today and support the man here, Dave Ramsey, with this book because it's really going to help you. This is the final question because I know we're hitting our time here.

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If you could have... We're talking about the emotional incompetence I think you said Maxwell was talking about.

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Would you rather have someone, oh man, this is a, you probably wouldn't want either, but would you rather have someone who's emotionally competent but lower level talent versus someone who's the highest level talent and just a little bit emotionally incompetent or a little bit of a bad energy?

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Is there anything else? Is there any final words you want to say, Dave, for this conversation?

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We appreciate you, Dave. Thanks for always coming on and sharing your wisdom and being so honest and vulnerable. Appreciate it. Appreciate your friendship. Appreciate you.

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I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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It's so hard. It's so hard. And people, they get excited about it, but then it's, you're not making money. You got all these expenses. You got customers who are upset with you and you're not sleeping. And then your relationships are going to crap.

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You're like, why am I doing this? Your health is going to crap. Your relationships are going to crap. If you don't have boundaries for your life, if you don't have any type of stability, it can feel exhausting and overwhelming. Yeah. But the treadmill phase is the first phase. Is that just kind of like everyone, you're doing everything all at once? Yeah. And you don't even really own a business.

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Right. And you're not getting paid well.

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Again, you've heard me say this before, gratitude and generosity are the gateway to abundance and your value appreciates every time you use your skill set to help someone else. So if you feel stuck, stagnant, trapped, overwhelmed,

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Yeah. 35 years of doing this business. Um, If someone was asking you, you know, Dave, I'm excited to launch my own business. I want to do this thing. I want to try this out. I've got an idea. I want to launch it.

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And you could give them three keys of really what to look out for before launching it to try to set them up for some type of success and eliminate as much pain as possible, although they're going to have challenge and pain and stress

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But if you said, if you could do these three things when you launch your business or right before you're launching to make sure you do every day or you set it up in the beginning, what will support them in getting to the best success possible?

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burdened you might need a break that's one thing you might need to rest and take like five to ten minutes to just breathe and actually not do anything but if you feel kind of like just like something's not breaking through in life stop thinking about me and start thinking about how can i add value with my skill set and i want you to do that to some person today in your life reach out to someone be a giver be a resource be generous with your time your energy your talents and add value to someone today

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It is a great adventure if you can manage it. And speaking of managing it, how did you learn to manage your mind or your emotions during the first kind of three to five years of launching the business when things changed so much, when you made a lot more mistakes probably back then than you do now?

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When people came and go, when you had to learn about culture, how did you manage your emotions and your mindset around all of the crazy adventures of entrepreneurship?

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But how do you, I mean, for me, I struggled with this early on in the first probably five, seven years of the business because I was like, I'm investing in this person personally, financially, you know, emotionally, spiritually, I'm investing resources, time, energy. And if they did something where they left, I was devastated for a while. And it felt like it would emotionally set me back.

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And I guess my feelings were hurt or I was sad. And you're just like, so how have you learned, I guess, to be emotionally invested in people and really lifting them up, but not emotionally devastated when they leave for whatever reason?

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And someone who added value to me today was Dave Ramsey. I had a chance to sit down with him and have him on my show. I've been inspired by Dave as a human being for many years. And it's amazing to watch what he's built within his business.

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Hey, my friend, welcome back to another episode of the School of Greatness. I'm excited for this episode because so many people struggle around relationships. I have been one of those individuals. For most of my life, I struggled. And I think I was in five or six kind of long-term relationships from my late teens to my late 30s.

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Because Jillian brings unique insights from both her professional expertise and personal journey, which is something that I love. including her experience with divorce and healing her relationship with her father that caused her a lot of pain in intimate relationships with men.

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What's the difference between the practice and the feeling?

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We dive deep into the difference between lust and love and why you can't convince someone to love you and how to develop the self-awareness needed for healthy relationships. This was something I wish I had 20 years ago because it would have saved me a lot of pain.

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A friend of mine said, I'm paraphrasing this, but he said, if you treated the person at the beginning of the relationship, at the end of the relationship, it wouldn't be the end.

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And it's like, it's true. It's like if you treated the person in the beginning of the relationship, you know, the same way you did at the end. Taking for granted. Yeah. It wouldn't be the end.

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One of the nine hard truths you talk about is you must speak up and tell the truth. And I think that's something that I learned the hard way many times.

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And, you know, one of the things I tested, I guess, with Martha is I'm just going to be fully honest about everything where the things that I used to say and then pull back on because women would react and cry or get emotional or whatever it is about my past, which was like, if this person can't accept my truth, why am I going to choose to want to spend more time with them?

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Why am I going to invest in a committed relationship with them? We don't need to be together. It doesn't have to work out, and that's okay.

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I wouldn't say it was harsh, but that's the way people test.

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Sure, sure. Yeah. That's good. But I think you must be come and tell the truth. I've had so many conversations and listen, If I would have gotten married in my 20s or early 30s,

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uh and a lot of stress but we all learn lessons exactly when we need to learn them so unfortunately i didn't have this podcast 20 years ago or this this content wasn't out there for me so if you're here and you're going through a breakup or you just went through a breakup or you struggled in relationships then I want you to know you are in the exact place you need to be.

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I think I would have been screwed in marriage because I didn't do a lot of these things you talk about in your book, and I didn't have the courage to say exactly what I wanted in the future of my relationship, or at least the vision I had.

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It was always to keep it as fun, lustful, and adventurous, I guess, as possible, right? How do we keep that chemistry going, those good times rolling? And any time there was...

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frustration or sadness or like challenging conversations that were like there was a reaction in a negative way or just an emotionally challenging way and Where the where I felt like I was disappointing the person I had a big people pleaser in me, right? Yes Okay, I want to make them happy. So how do I just make them happy? How do I make this situation happy?

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Yes, and it made me Lack the courage to be like, you know what? This is my truth. I'm gonna tell it to you and I'm loving compassionate way and If that doesn't work for you, then we might have to make some challenging... Choices? Choices, yeah, for the future. And maybe these good times aren't going to roll anymore. And that was always hard for me to do.

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Of course, yeah. And I wanted to make it work, and I cared about these people, and all that stuff. So it was really hard to end a relationship where you feel like, oh, but there's so much fun, things are good. But when you tell the truth earlier on in a dating experience and just being very honest with the person about your past, present, and where you want to be in the future.

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If someone's not in alignment with you, then you should not be together.

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And I think you can find out about alignment by both parties speaking up and telling the truth about everything. There was another book that we went through, Martha and I, when we were dating called Eight Dates, actually.

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And it was uncomfortable. I mean, it's like a lot of uncomfortable conversations. And it's kind of like each date is about like one about kids, one about money, one about marriage, one about like whatever, these different situations in life. And I mean, the questions might've felt like overkill. There was like 50 questions around each topic.

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And I was like, gosh, these are just, it's not enjoyable to speak about these things. Yes. And really be honest about it. And like, oh, and have her ask me the question and look at me like, oh, how is she going to receive this? And like, oh man, I got to really show up and be honest here. Oh, okay. Let me breathe through it. And like, take a break and come back. Yeah. It is uncomfortable.

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So you weren't willing to reveal yourself.

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You felt vulnerable, but you weren't being vulnerable.

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This is a synchronicity and a sign and a signal from the universe that you are in the right place. And I want you to get out of bed of paper and take some notes. She's also going to talk about the critical importance of speaking your truth in relationships, even when it feels uncomfortable and risky. And man, do I wish I had this power. for two decades.

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Yeah. And you come together stronger after that.

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Yeah. I almost feel like you shouldn't get in a relationship until you know the person of what you're wanting to change.

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Yeah, you have to be flexible too, for sure.

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I think the more you can have these honest conversations earlier, I mean, listen, there's going to be things I'm going to keep learning about Martha forever, right? New things about her constantly. Yeah. But... What I say, I feel like I know 80 to 90% of like at the core what she values. Yes. Based on what she's communicated to me, I feel like I know that. Yes.

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And because we've had multiple of these conversations and because I feel like I'm intuitive and discerning enough to like read the energy. Now, she could be lying to me about certain things. She could be hoarding stuff. And at that point, it may be a deal breaker later in the case. Be like, oh, you lied to me. You said something completely different and you lied about it.

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Like you weren't being honest. That's a bigger problem than like you changing this one thing. It's like you just were not honest with me.

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Really? Now, did you have the conversations before the marriage?

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How important is timing in a relationship?

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Yeah, exactly. Like it's the right person, wrong time, or they're not ready or whatever.

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I was not able to speak my truth and it was a massive cause of a lot of breakdowns. Then she's going to talk about the essential truths that can transform how we approach love and connection. So if you've ever struggled in relationships and you want to build stronger ones this year and beyond, This episode will give you the tools and the wisdom to create lasting change.

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Yeah. And speaking about the truth, if a woman is going out and dating, right? And they've dated a bunch of different guys, but they finally meet a guy they're like, oh, this guy's different. And he's, you know... Not only does he like check off all the things on my written down list, but like, I feel emotionally safe. We're just connected. We have similarity.

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We have alignment in so many places and this could be an amazing relationship for me. But then a month or two down, he just says, you know what, this is not working out for me. And he's dating other women and starts to date someone else. What should a woman be thinking or feeling?

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In that experience, when most of the times you hear women saying that they're devastated, they're heartbroken, that this guy didn't choose them. Yeah. And they think something's wrong with them. Instead, what should that woman be thinking or saying about that situation?

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And I am so excited for you to dive in. If this is your first time here, please click the follow button on Apple Podcasts right now or Spotify and leave us a review. When you follow and you leave a review, it really helps us to spread these messages for free to more people in the world who might be struggling or want personal growth.

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Yeah, one of your nine hard truths is you cannot convince someone to love you.

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To make him more pleased with me or satisfied or whatever.

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How does that feel when you're trying to convince someone to love you, but they're not receptive to it?

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So click the follow button, leave a review, and just go ahead and copy and paste the link to this episode and share it with one or two friends. Send it in a WhatsApp group chat, post it on social media, share it with a friend of yours that you want to see continue to thrive in their relationships now and in the future. If there's someone you care about deeply, send this to them.

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Yeah, it's not fun. And it's like, again, having the discernment to fight for the relationship.

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Versus letting go when someone's not choosing to love you in return.

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And you might have been thinking, well, I'm fighting for this because we're married and we love each other. So I'm going to fight for this and try to do what I can. It's very complicated. Versus self-betrayals, abandonment, lack of boundaries, people pleasing or whatever it was you were experiencing.

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Or they lost a parent or something. They're going through something tragic.

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That's tricky though also because it's like the analogy of the frog in the boiling water or something, right? It's like it gets hot in the water, but then eventually it just, it can tolerate it because it's getting hotter and hotter, but then it never jumps out. It just dies.

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So for 20 years, I was in multiple long-term relationships and I just, man, I struggled. And I thought I figured it out after every breakup what to do and that it wasn't my fault and it was someone else's problem. man, was I wrong?

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What would you, if you could go back to before you were married?

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And if you could... only do three things differently to either set the marriage up to be more successful when you got married or realize, oh, we're not in alignment, so I'm going to actually remove myself before getting married. What three things could you have done differently?

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And I'm excited to dive into this episode. But also, big announcement, if you haven't heard yet, my new book, Make Money Easy, Create Financial Freedom and Live a Richer Life, is coming out very soon. I'd love for you to order it, pre-order right now. The link will be in the description below on Apple Spotify. or wherever you're listening to this, just click on that link.

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Yeah. Most people don't have that in their teens or 20s or even 30s. No, they don't.

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It's almost like until they experience enough pain, then they say, okay, not that I experienced pain once, but I've experienced it multiple times. Something has to change. Now I got to wake up.

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Yeah, I have a friend who is very well-known, extremely successful and well-known, and been married and divorced, has older kids and things like that, and has a lot of prospects. Let's just say that, right? This person. But they... And I asked them and they're older. And I asked them one time, I go, you know, why even be in a relationship when, you know,

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your kids are older now, you've got your, you know, your mission, your purpose, you're doing so much with that. And you've got great community and friendships. Like you've got a lot of great stuff. Why even be in a relationship? And they were like, because that's the whole purpose of life.

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You know, it's like to be in great relationships, you know, and it's more than just friends and community and work. And it's like, you want to be able to share these moments with someone on a deeper level. than just having fun times with people and little affairs, as you might call it. A two-month affair with this person, another two-month affair with this person.

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Investing, but then pulling them out and then investing again. It's exhausting. I think it's worth investing in to do these nine things that you talk about in your book, which ultimately are just going to make your life better. whether you're with someone or not, they're going to make you better.

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And so, and by you saying, even if you say, okay, I don't want to be in a relationship, I don't want to work on these things with myself by loving myself, by learning how to speak up and tell the truth to myself and to other people. But like doing these things, you're just going to be a better human being. You're going to be more attracted to someone who's in alignment with you as well.

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And hopefully you'll be more safe and ready when you feel that alignment.

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It'll take you right to Amazon. Would love for you to get a copy of my book because one of the biggest problems that people have in relationships is around money. So if you want to create a harmonious relationship with money and have better, healthier conversations with money,

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I don't like it when someone has high standards of their partner. And not for themselves. But they can be flawed and imperfect all day long.

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You've got these nine different hard truths. And one of them is also you must make peace with your parents.

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Why do you think we need to make peace with our parents in order to have a healthy, loving relationship with a partner?

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Yeah, because being sexually or physically abused by a family member is probably going to be one of the most psychological, you know, fracturing, damaging things that could ever happen to anything, right? Yes. Outside of like, I don't know, watching someone murder someone that you care about in front of you. Or suicide. Something like that. Yeah. Those instances.

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But someone that you came from who is then sexually or physically abusing you.

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It's got to like fracture you emotionally and psychologically, spiritually and physically.

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Exactly. There's a fracturing of the mind that happens. There's different fracturings of the mind. If your parents are fighting all the time, if they get divorced, there's all these different fracturings where you have to reclaim these parts of ourselves, these wounded parts of us. It's the IFS system.

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It's like reclaiming the internal family system, which is weird as it sounds because having a reparenting that wounded self. Inside of you.

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with the people you're with, friends, family, and intimate partners, this book will give you the tools and the teaching you need to feel financially free and harmonious in your relationship with money. Make sure to check it out. It's called Make Money Easy, Create Financial Freedom, and Live a Richer Life. Without further ado, let's dive into this episode right now.

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To feel more integrated. And so it's not forgiving necessarily people that have done these things, which I'm hearing you say, if that's your choice, but you do say we have to make peace with these parents.

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Wow. Because they want to fix it or they want to repair that.

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Because he wrote a book based on you being a difficult child.

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I want to talk about some of the stuff in your book. Let's do it. These are powerful self-healing techniques to help us repair a relationship with ourselves and start building the rewarding relationships that we deserve. Again, you want two individuals to create a successful relationship need to be on a healing journey. Doesn't mean anything to be perfect or whole. Although I would ask you,

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I was like hoping it was going to happen way sooner.

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Yeah. someone being alive, but you not being connected to them.

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Can you be broken and be happy in a relationship with someone? If two people are broken and like have no wholeness at all, they're just like empty inside?

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Yeah, it's powerful. The book, it begins with you, the nine hard truths about love that will change your life. Make sure you guys get a copy or two. Get one for a friend who's also going through maybe a challenge in their relationship or who's single and struggling so they can have the tools to support them in their life as well.

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You've got an amazing podcast, Jillian on Love podcast, a lot of great stuff. Your content on social media is amazing as well. But where should we go to support you for this book? It's your website, right? It's the main place.

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Very excited for you. I hope people get the book and read it because it's going to be extremely helpful for them. Thank you. And if someone's watching, feel free to leave a comment of your biggest takeaway below on YouTube and post about this on social media. Make sure to tag Jillian as well, wherever you're sharing this out. And send it to one or two friends.

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Send it to one or two people and say, hey, let's talk about this. What did you learn? Share it with them. A couple of final questions. I think I asked you this before, but I'll ask you again. It's a question called the three truths. Yes. So imagine you get to live as long as you want, but it's your last day on earth and you have to take all of your work with you.

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So we don't have access to your book, your content, this interview, it's gone. But on the last day, you get to leave behind three lessons of all of your experiences in life. And this is all we would have to remember your content by. What would be those three truths for you?

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I appreciate you for creating this and for putting this out there. I know how hard it is to do a book. So I'm grateful that you have experienced so much life and sadness and suffering from many different relationships so that you could have the wisdom and the tools to share with us.

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So I appreciate you for your work and your service for helping so many people in relationships who are struggling and hopefully have more harmonious relationships. Final question. What's your definition of love?

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There you go. Jillian, thanks for being here. Appreciate it. Thank you. Powerful. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you, if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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And it took me a lot of sadness, a lot of suffering, a lot of pain, a lot of harsh lessons through all these different relationships on what I needed to start shifting to attract harmonious love, to attract someone who was the right match for me and really to become the person who was the right match for myself. So it was not even actually about finding someone else who was right for me first.

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If someone doesn't feel like they're worthy of love and they enter a relationship, what do you think is going to happen in that relationship?

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What do you think is worse? Someone who chooses someone that reinforces a belief in them that they are not lovable and worthy of love, and therefore that person reflects and treats them poorly? Or someone who believes that they are not worthy of love? but somehow chooses someone to accept them fully and love them unconditionally, and yet they still don't believe it themself.

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Which one do you think is more challenging?

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It was really about me becoming the person I needed to be in order to create healthy boundaries, in order to speak my truth, in order to feel safe. And then from that space, I feel like I really attracted an incredible person who understood me, who accepted me, and who saw me. But I wasn't even seeing myself in all my deficiencies until I started to do a lot of the work.

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But there's something though, like getting something you feel like you didn't deserve.

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And it's like being handed a bunch of money that you're like, I didn't earn this.

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Someone died or someone gave me this. Yes. Did I really create the value to receive this? Yes. And you have this like guilt or this.

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And then you sabotage it and then you don't value it.

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But to say I'm lucky that someone loves me.

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That's good. That's good, but she didn't believe she deserved it.

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I mean, here's the question then. You know, we're trying to talk about how to create more fulfilling experiences in our life. And I think the greatest fulfillment comes in relationships. You know, we can create fulfillment alone, but really magic happens when you have fulfillment and shared experience with someone else, I believe. Yes.

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Yes. In your book, you've kind of got these nine different distinctions that can set you up for a healthy relationship. The first one you talk about, it begins with you. And that's why I wanted to ask you about worthiness. How can someone learn, you know, having a capital self, how can they learn to develop more worthiness and deservedness of love if they never received it or saw it growing up?

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Sure, sure. Something you talked about earlier and you mentioned before is kind of like this difference between lust and love.

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You mentioned in your book that lust is not the same thing as love. How do we know the difference between when we're experiencing or feeling lust versus meaningful love?

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And today I'm sitting down with a powerful relationship coach and author, Jillian Turecki, for a conversation about love relationships and personal growth. And she's got a new book out called It Begins With You. And in this episode, we dive deep into the incredible takeaways from her book, as well as her life experiences.

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My friend, welcome back to the School of Greatness. If this is your first time here, then welcome and I hope you stick around because we are always trying to level up each and every week with the greatest guests, the most inspiring stories, research, science, And really tools to help you improve the quality of your life.

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If I can dance, you can dance.

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Your whole tagline is bring the joy.

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I want to ask you a question about thinking, because I think thinking is very important in how we perceive ourselves, how we perceive the world. What's more important to our success or our abundance? Is it thinking more positive thoughts or thinking less negative thoughts?

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If this is your first time here, please click the follow button over on Apple or Spotify, wherever you're listening to this episode. make sure to share it with a few friends because when you share helpful resources and positive, inspiring stories to others, you're making a difference on their life as well.

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Yeah, you have to have good thoughts. And you don't. We think. Yeah, yeah. If you achieve it, but you still don't accept yourself, are you going to feel good? Yeah. Let me share this.

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So copy and paste the link to this episode, put it on social media or text a few friends and say, hey, I was thinking about you and I think you might enjoy hearing this story. And without further ado, let's dive into this with my man, Brendan Bouchard. I'm curious, from your experience, I want to understand more about abundance and wealth.

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Yeah. Yeah. That sense of integrity. Doing what I say I'm going to do for myself every day. Yeah. And that will help to create more belief because you're now in alignment with what you say and do. It's matching. Yeah. And I think you're in alignment.

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And now he has the abundance of love. And it's so interesting. Thanks for the acknowledgement I receive. So interesting because we never know Like the moment before I met Martha, I didn't know four years ago I'd be where I'm at today. Isn't that crazy? It was like literally one moment and everything changed. And I didn't know in that moment when I met her, this is what was going to happen.

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But it was like literally I'd been doing so much deep healing work before I met her that I kind of was just like, I don't need to be in a relationship. And I wasn't even... like trying to be in a relationship. I was like most of the people in this room, single, not wanting a relationship. But I was just like, I am so good with me, whatever happens.

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From working with some of the biggest leaders in the world, from your experience, does wealth tend to come with more negative emotions or positive emotions for the people that you interact with?

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And if a relationship comes or the right person comes, I'm ready. And if not, I'm happy to be single. But it was like, I never had this feeling because I always had butterflies when I met certain people that I was getting into relationships with. And this may not sound romantic, but I didn't have butterflies with her.

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And it doesn't mean I wasn't attracted to her or there wasn't some connection, but it was almost like my nervous system was in alignment where I just could see a healthy human being in front of me as opposed to one where I was unsure of or anxious around. I was just like, cool, if we vibe, awesome. If we don't, I wish you the best and I wish me the best and I want us both to win.

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It wasn't like a need you to like me or anything like that. It was just like, this is who I am and let me get to know you. And I felt so peaceful inside throughout the whole kind of dating phase of the relationship. And I was just like, I'm going to be 100% me. And if she accepts me, great. If not, I wish her the best. But never again will I allow myself to get out of alignment with

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to please one person in life and then resent myself for shifting my value to try to make one person happy. I'm at peace whether this works out or not. And I truly want her to find someone who is the right alignment for her. And if we're in the right alignment, great. And if we're not, then I wish you the best. And that created this richness in me that I never felt.

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But it wasn't until I started shifting my beliefs and my behaviors and being more in alignment with myself on sticking up for me when I needed to, creating those boundaries, being fully transparent and honest and being okay if she couldn't receive it and just being like, well, this is me and it's okay.

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And it was an amazing experience that I didn't have the belief for many years that it was possible. until i started to heal then i was like oh i believe it's possible with the right timing and it happened quick i was not wanting it or expecting him in that moment but i also didn't say this is interesting because martha

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Um, after like a month of us hanging out, we were spending a lot of quality time together. And also we, we didn't have any sexual intimacy by my choice. I said, I'm not jumping into this, creating chemical confusion. I just want to get to know you. Where previously the women I would date wanted to get to know me in other ways. But I made a decision. I said, this is not happening.

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She goes, yeah, I know I'm not letting it happen, but I go, no, but I'm not going to try. She was like, okay, cool. So we were both in alignment on that. And there was something she said to me later, because after like a month of us hanging out, and she had done a lot of like her own healing journey as well, but maybe a month or two of us hanging out She did a session with her therapist.

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She was in individual therapy as well as I was, which I think was beautiful because we were both on our healing journey. And she said, I met this amazing guy that something feels different. But I feel like I'm supposed to wait longer maybe because that's what, you know, people say you should wait and do this. And the therapist said, you're an actress, right? And...

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If you did a movie in your first few years of acting, and for whatever reason, your movie was up for an Academy Award, and they chose you to win that award, but you said, no, I'm not ready for it. Would you not take the Oscar if the award was presented to you? What you wanted was right in front of you. Would you say, ah, I don't know.

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Would you block that opportunity of abundance to you, that vision? She goes, no, I wouldn't. I would take the award. And she said, then go lean into this relationship. It doesn't mean it's going to work out. It doesn't mean maybe he's crazy, whatever. It doesn't mean it will work out. But leaning into this, one day you will create that relationship. It's beautiful.

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And yeah, so it was really all about alignment and being okay if it didn't work out. Yeah. And that's when it just felt peaceful.

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We've been doing this for over 12 years, every single week for over 12 years. And today you're in for a treat. And if you've been here for a while, then you know what you're about to experience. Because we have my good friend, Brendan Richard in the house, who is a high performance coach of the high performance coaches. He's an author of many books. number one New York Times bestselling books.

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What is the thing that, for those who are super achievers, that know how to either make money or build a business or accomplish things, What is blocking them from their freedom emotionally if they're able to achieve but unable to align with their higher calling or with their mission?

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If they're achievement masters but they haven't figured out peace and freedom, what is blocking them from feeling that when they've mastered achievement?

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But they don't feel it because they've never allowed it in. Why don't people allow the success in or the accomplishment? Why do they have to go to the next thing right away without celebrating it or saying, oh man, I actually did a good job here and I can take it in.

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What's the test or the assessment that people can take right now that can figure out if they're in alignment with a meaningful pursuit or if they're playing a dumb game? Their career and their purpose and their relationship, whatever it might be.

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Check the weather and check everything.

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What if someone doesn't know their value or their worth? How can someone start to understand what their value and worth is? And what should someone do when someone else doesn't appreciate their value or their worth?

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In your book, High Performance Habits, you have a quote that says, gratitude is the golden frame through which we see the meaning of life. I feel like that's a lot of what you've been talking about, being generous, being grateful. It's something that I was talking about throughout the evening as well.

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When you feel like something is off internally or externally in your life, where you're not feeling peaceful or joyful, maybe the bring the joy isn't working and your inner critic is like, shut up about the joy. I'm going through a really hard time emotionally or externally. How do you set yourself free in creating that inner abundance and external abundance when things aren't going well for you?

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A couple of final questions for you. This has been beautiful. I would like you to imagine, I'm not gonna have, I'm not gonna call out anyone here, but I'd like you to imagine from all the people in this room that there's one person here who's really going through a tough time in life.

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And I don't know where that person is, but I'd like you to imagine that someone's going through a really challenging time and they feel like, They just haven't gotten that breakthrough or that chance or that opportunity in relationships or their financial opportunity. It just seems like something keeps holding them back. What would you say to that person here who just feels stuck?

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When then were you able to break free from that survival mindset around money into thriving financially and creating more abundance? Guys, it happened like three miles from here.

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Final question. Final question and also just final thoughts you would like to share tonight after the question. I'll let you close it out. What are you grateful for today? And what's your final thoughts?

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And any final thoughts as we close out?

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I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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And this is all about how to break free from a limited mindset and create true abundance in your life. So if you feel blocked, if you feel stuck somewhere, if you feel like you're doing good, but you're not expanding to where you want to be, this is all about how to break free from the survival mindset that keeps so many of us stuck.

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Brandon shares part of his journey from being broke to becoming a world renowned success coach who works with billionaires and high achievers. And he shares it in a way that is so vulnerable and visceral that I've never heard it before that is extremely powerful. We did this live at my Make Money Easy book tour in San Francisco.

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How do you not go back into self-doubt when, okay, you get excited to fight for someone or something greater, and you're living in that space, but then something doesn't work out or then it doesn't hit number one or people continue to laugh at you or the money's not coming.

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How do you not fall back into survival or self-doubt or insecurity or self-judgment?

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And that's where he was broke, struggling, trying to make it a few blocks away from where we recorded this live on the book tour. And it was powerful. He's going to be talking about how small daily victories of integrity can transform your self-worth more effectively than positive thinking alone. That and so much more. I cannot wait for you to dive into this episode.

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You rob yourself of blessings. Yeah. Because you don't believe you're deserving of those things.

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So they'll believe before they see.

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Exactly what you said. Maybe not today, I'll figure it out. Maybe not tomorrow, but one day I'll figure it out.

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And a failure isn't meaning they're a failure.

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Welcome back, my friend to the school of greatness. It is a beautiful day. It's a blessed day. And I'm grateful for another opportunity to live on purpose. I hope you're doing well today. I've gotten so many messages lately from so many of you. who have just been so grateful for the content we've been providing, for the interviews, for the guests.

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And so what is the main things that you've been able to observe then about the gut and how it relates to people that live over 100?

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Did he have the energy to blow all the candles out?

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And people are studying their gut bacteria.

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And we all want to live healthier with the current days and years that we have. His practical approach proves that optimizing your longevity isn't about expensive biohacking, but about working with your body's natural healing systems. And he's going to share the four specific gut bacteria that stand out in people who live beyond 100 years and which foods help them flourish.

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Does that mean there are four bacteria in people that live 100 and beyond in their gut bacteria that people... Under 100 don't have?

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70% of your immune system lives in the gut.

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So the immune system is kind of like the insulation in a house. Is that right? In the walling of the house?

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So it's kind of like the insulation or whatever inside the drywall.

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And whatever's in the house is the bacteria. Exactly. The people, the dogs, the cats, all moving around.

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And impacts our brain. And then it impacts our brain. How much of what we eat impacts our brain?

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Like either giving us clarity and focus versus cloudiness, giving us... You know, that's what I'm working on right now.

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This is going to be so powerful. Please share this with one friend. And really send this out to a friend that you think could improve the quality of their health or maybe their mind's been a little bit foggy or they've been feeling stressed or anxious. There is so much that's connected to the gut, what we eat, and our mood and our brain health and our brain function.

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Yeah. It's like Wolverine. So you become Wolverine. Without the claws. So it just, there's a probiotic that you can drink as a human now also?

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So it's not always about losing weight or something like that. but it's about optimizing the way our brain and our immune system work in tandem. And that's what this is about. So share this with one friend. If you're enjoying this, please leave a review over on Apple Podcast or on Spotify.

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100% breastfeed. Don't go right to a bottle or formula or something like that.

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So unless there's some reason the mother is unable to do it.

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Oh, yeah. What are the key foods that we can eat to cultivate the best bacteria to help us live longer?

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So fascinating. So it seems like how much disease stems from the gut? More than we think.

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Because the society is talking a lot in the last few years about mental health. It seems like there's a lot more anxiety, depression. ADHD and these types of mental health conditions or diseases that are accelerating in mass numbers.

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But based on what I'm hearing you talk about, it almost sounds like if we stop thinking about mental health, not stop thinking about it, but focus more on gut health, it sounds like it connects to the brain and the mind and it'll create more alignment in ease versus dis-ease.

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You can go to lewishouse.com slash tour to get your tickets right now. I'm very excited. I hope to see you guys there. Thank you for all of your support, as always, for being here and listening to this show. Without further ado, let's dive into this episode with Dr. William Lee. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. I'm very excited about our guest.

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Because there's a, who is the doctor? Dr. Emeryn Mayer, I think it is. I don't know if he's got a book called Gut-Brain Connection. I think somebody that's talking about these things as well. And it seems like a lot of the things that are stemming from the brain disease or challenges is in the gut.

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And it's also linked to longevity, it sounds like as well.

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We have the inspiring Dr. William Lee in the house. So good to see you. Thank you for being here.

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And it means a lot to me every time I get a message from someone on social media or when someone comes up to me on the street and just says hello and their biggest takeaway from the show, it really means a lot to me. And I was traveling the last couple weeks doing some press for the new book that's coming out called Make Money Easy. It's coming out very, very soon.

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Yeah, 100%. And seeing what's in front of you, not just only focusing on how do I make it to 100 or 110, just enjoying the moment. The rise is important, but honestly, like, so is what's directly in front of you. Sure. If someone watching or listening has... maybe neglected their health for many years. And they're now living in excess weight or maybe even obesity.

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Very excited about this because you've been on the show a couple of times and you've been a researcher, a scientist, a physician for many years. mostly helping people figure out about how to cure cancer. That's kind of where your background is around the cancer world, but you've also gone in different places around medicine and science and research.

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And they've been on a pattern and a routine of eating poorly, drinking a lot of excess alcohol, whatever it might be, and just not taking care of their health. And you were to prescribe just a 90-day game plan. to reset their metabolism and try to get the right things going again, what would you prescribe that individual?

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And how much do you think they could actually recover and start to heal from years of not taking care of their health?

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Maybe it's not that extreme, but maybe it's, you know, 20 to 40 pounds overweight.

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Before you go to the next point, can you make a distinction, if you can explain to people, because I don't think people truly understand, when you eat one processed meal, what is happening with a processed food, whether it's ultra processed or just processed and not it's complete whole food that you cook, what happens when it enters the mouth of ultra processed food or something that's processed?

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It goes through the gut and out. What is happening to your body with that versus just single ingredient whole foods cooked and in the system?

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And currently you're diving in deep into the longevity topic, which is really interesting. We were just talking off camera about a new approach to what you're seeing that the you know, supercentarians, I guess, are experiencing. And a lot of people want to know right now how to live longer, but also how to live healthy longer, how to have a good health span as well.

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Okay. So the difference between something minimally processed versus ultra-processed, what happens to the gut? the bacteria in your gut and the body and the immune system with having those different options.

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Because it's not fun if you live to 100, but for 25 years, you're on machines, you can't walk, you can't move, and you're not healthy. And so I think that's what a lot of people want. So the first question I wanna ask you is, why do you think people care so much about being immortal or living for as long as they can? And what are some of the new things that you're seeing in the longevity world?

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And you'll start to feel the effects, or at least your body will feel the effects within 24 hours.

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Wow, that's what processed foods do, ultra-processed. What are other things that ruin the gut bacteria, then, besides ultra-processed foods?

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So vaping or smoking or cigars, that doesn't help the gut bacteria.

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How much of a block, if someone is smoking every day or vaping or doing cigars or pipes every day, or they're inhaling some type of smoke, how much of a dam are they creating in the flow of health throughout their nervous system, their bloodstream, their... I don't have the number for you, but it's pretty significant.

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Okay. So number one, I think I took you off track for a second. Number one is eat more plant-based whole foods. And less ultra processed.

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Was there more to this? Was there more steps to this?

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We got to overeat, overeat fiber, overeat like the healthiest.

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Yeah, if we had a clicker and it said, okay, you've eaten all you need to fill your tank today, stop eating.

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Well, also when I eat ultra-processed foods, I never feel full. It's like I can have two pizzas and candy and I'm still hungry.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the clicker doesn't turn on with ultra-processed foods like it would with whole foods where you feel like, oh, I got a lot of good fiber in me. I got some good grains. I got some, you know, meat or beans or vegetables. Like... I feel satisfied.

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Because you've kept those toxins in. Wow. If someone, say, has one glass of wine or one drink of alcohol before they go to sleep, and they say to themselves, that's not that much. It's just one glass or one drink. How much is that impacting the brain? to not be able to recover, flush out those toxins, and feel fully rested? Different for everybody. Okay.

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So again, these four bacteria that are in the gut of people that are living well beyond 100, we talked about those before. You gave a few different foods that can support you in, I guess, the fourth one.

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What I mean, what are the things that are blocking us beyond the processed foods, beyond smoking, alcohol? Here's actually a question I have for you about this. If you're eating all the right foods, but you say take a Tylenol once a day or take ibuprofen once a day or take some type of...

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Chemical compound that is a drug, even if it seems like it's safe over the counter, what does that do to the gut microbiome when you take a Tylenol Advil, ibuprofen, or some type of pain killer?

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Yeah. Interesting. I guess I'm curious if there's side effects that would also hurt. Maybe they'd help in some way, but then hurt in some other way, I'm not sure.

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If you haven't got your copy yet, make sure to go to Amazon right now and get your copy of Make Money Easy. Create financial freedom and live a richer life. But so many people have just been coming up to me lately and really thanking me for the show. So it means a lot to me. If you see me out on the streets anytime in L.A. or if you are coming to one of the book tour stops recently,

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This may sound a little woo-woo, this question, but how much do our thoughts and our mindset impact our gut, but also our overall health?

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So stress, overwhelm, anxiety, depression, bad thoughts.

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Yeah. It almost sounds like if you're eating unhealthy foods, ultra-processed foods, it's more than likely going to have an impact on the way you think. Because you're going to feel a certain thing, or maybe the signals are sending something up of, this is not enough. I need more nutrients. I need something else.

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And therefore, it's going to create some type of fogginess in your thinking or in your mind. And if your thinking or mind is... a lower energy, a lower frequency, thinking, tired, it's gonna send it back to the gut. It seems like it's kind of connecting at the same time. So when you eat something healthy, hopefully it's impacting your mind or your brain to think better.

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And if you're thinking better, hopefully your gut is being impacted in a better way also.

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And if you could, I've got a couple final questions for you, but if you were to focus on a few supplements you think people should be taking to just non-negotiables that you think is going to help their gut, their lifespan, everything, what would those few supplements be?

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So what is that one called? The Acromantia?

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So those four things are the main that you take, vitamin D, omega-3, and these two probiotics.

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You might throw some other stuff in there, but those are the main.

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You've got some amazing books, Eat to Beat Disease and Eat to Beat Your Diet, that cover all the research that you've done and give people way more tips than what we've talked about here. This is a great starter. And you're on YouTube every week. People can check out YouTube. slash Dr. William Lee to see your content where you dive into the research and you share more.

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And you're doing it, what, two, three times a week right now?

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What's the biggest pain that people are facing around their health today that you've been answering?

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This is powerful. I want people to go subscribe to your YouTube, check you out, all your books, drwilliamlee.com. You're going to be updating people there. You have a newsletter, all these different things people can check out. Also, I'm going to get a link or a list of all the supplements you talked about and add it to the show notes.

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So I'll get that from you later and I'll add it to the show notes on YouTube and all the different audio platforms. But this has been very powerful. I appreciate you for revealing some of the new research that you're discovering and you're seeing that I haven't heard anyone talk about, which is kind of understanding the gut bacteria connection to longer-term health and longevity.

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And I think it's really important that we need to start exploring more of this. And I'm assuming over the coming years, you're going to be talking more about this on your YouTube channel, about what you're discovering and sharing the research and the science that people can have for themselves.

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Dr. William Lee, thank you so much for being here. I appreciate it.

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Again, powerful. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel exclusively on Apple podcasts.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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Yeah, he has a number of different things, which is community and your activity level and the foods you eat and having a purpose and kind of these things. He's into beans. Beans, big into beans, right? Yeah. But that may not necessarily, I guess, be the only solution, right? If you follow these kind of core tenets that he has from the blue zones.

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And we're also seeing that some of those blue zones are no longer blue zones, I think, or they're diminishing in their blue zones because of the way people are changing their food intake or things like that, I think, right? Like the place in Japan. And there may be more blue zones that haven't been discovered yet. Interesting.

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And so what are the new things that you're observing that most people aren't noticing about people that live well into their hundreds?

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That's right, I'm going on tour, seven cities. We're going to Austin, Texas, New York City, Boston, Massachusetts, Nashville, Tennessee, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and San Diego. Just let me know your favorite part of the show. What's really resonated with you? How it supported you in your life? That's what this show is all about. It's to help you improve the quality of your life.

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Wow. And how the gut impacts the brain.

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And get the lab details on the bacteria, right?

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Wow. Gingivitis. All right. So, okay. So it sounds like it starts with the mouth and then it's the gut. Because what you put in the mouth is going to be in the gut as well.

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And I hope this episode does that for you. We have got a big one. His name is Dr. William Lee. He's a physician, a scientist, and a researcher. And we had him on the show before. It got millions of views over on YouTube and the audio. But he is back.

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So they're connected. We believe so. Because we used to, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but we used to treat Alzheimer's and dementia as focusing on the brain, correct? Like, let's look at the brain and see what's wrong or what's off and try to treat the brain. Yeah. Versus now you're saying...

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Well, it's the gut, it's the whole body that's connected to the brain, so we have to look at everything.

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And Dr. Lee reveals how our gut bacteria communicates with our brain, our immune system, and overall health in ways that we are just beginning to understand. He's going to share some simple changes to our diet and lifestyle that you haven't heard before on any other show on how it can nurture beneficial gut bacteria and potentially adding healthy years to our lives. We all want to live longer.

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We still don't know how to reverse Alzheimer's or prevent it, I guess?

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There are two big things happening at one time that I've never done before. I'm going on a book tour for my new book, Make Money Easy, and I'm doing a podcast tour at the same time. It is going to be big, and I'm going to seven cities in 10 days. Get your friends, get your family, bring everyone you know to these cities. I'm coming to Austin, Texas, New York, Boston, We're going to Nashville.

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Yeah, I told you once a year. Every year at Christmas, I tell you.

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What is it that people are missing that would make them... exceptional communicators in every area of their life if they learn how to do this one thing around what you're saying.

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How do you do this in a marriage after 40 years when, you know, you have memories and, I don't know, you're... similarities of the same things and events happening over and over? How do you continue to tap into the frequency that is needed for your partner to feel seen, loved and heard and accepted, as opposed to leaning into a dominant frequency where they don't feel as appreciated?

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That's all about improving the relationship to money so you can be financially free. Make sure to get your copy right now. The link is below as well in the description. Without further ado, let's dive in. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have my good friend Erwin McManus in the house. So good to see you. Man, I am so glad to see you. I'm pumped.

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For someone who's been through a devastating breakup in a relationship, or maybe they've had just kind of heartbreak after heartbreak in relationships, how can someone use what you've created here and use their words and frequencies to manifest love and even if they've experienced so much pain and disappointment in relationships?

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So when someone, I mean, you can use me as an example. I was in many relationships that I felt they were right, maybe, or it felt like maybe a potential, and I stayed in them for a long time, tried to make them work, but then they wouldn't work out and it'd be a lot of pain. Then I'd repeat the cycle, you know, kind of all through my 20s and 30s, right? Right.

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if someone has gone through kind of breakup after breakup, what is it inside of them that's missing for them to be able to really create that harmonious match in someone else, where it is more in alignment, where it is more...

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and the right, I don't know, the right vision for what they want to create in a relationship so they don't have to go through the same pattern of breakup and pain over and over again.

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The last time you came on, we talked about your new book, The Seven Frequencies of Communication, and we walked through kind of these, each one specifically. There's a powerful episode and I want people to watch that in tandem with this. And what I want to do with this episode is to see, we're going to talk about my core frequencies. Oh, that's going to be fun.

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It's so interesting because when I was in these experiences of pain and breakup and doubts, you know, should I be in this relationship? Should I not be in this relationship in the past? And, you know, months of being single in between relationships and just like, ah, what's going on in my life? I wasn't thinking consciously like, am I worthy? But looking back, I see how unworthy I was.

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Unconsciously, I guess, and how I was attracting relationships, because I guess I didn't really believe I was. I wanted something beautiful and great, but I didn't think I was either ready or deserving of it right at that moment. Right.

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It is, and it doesn't expose you. Right. And hopefully your shadow's not as dark as them, so you're a little more light.

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Because I took your assessment, which I'll tell people how they can do this. But the goal of this episode is to give people the tools on how to use their words and understand their frequencies that are within them on how to really manifest and attract people.

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Absolutely. It's almost like I needed to, I don't know if kill is the right word, but I needed to mend and heal the old version of me to alchemize into someone new internally. Whether that's letting go of an old version or alchemizing and healing the old version to the new, however I want to talk about it. But it was like, I definitely had to step into a new identity.

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And either... heal the old identity into an upgraded version, letting it go, whatever it might be. I needed to do that in order to attract a relationship where I felt peaceful because I never felt peace. And I think a lot of people listening or watching who have been struggling in relationships, they feel like anxiety in their relationship.

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So how can we learn to, I guess, the first part of that question, how can we learn to anchor ourselves to be more empowered to both speak with people power with the actual words, but then speak with frequency, energy, and marry the two?

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How can we start to believe we are either deserving or confident or wise enough to be able to marry the two at the highest level of frequency in relationship, but also in all relationships?

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When you see someone who's an angry person towards others, what do you see in them? A person who hates themselves.

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Yeah. So true. And what do they need to transform that? they actually need to forgive themselves. Because they've been, what, blaming or shaming or feeling guilty about something?

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the loving relationship that they want in their life, or just powerful relationships in general, whether it's their soulmate, a loving partner, or the right partners in their life to elevate what they want in life. That's the direction I want to take with this because I feel like

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When did you get to that place? Like, how old were you or what season of life?

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You have such a wealth of experience, wisdom, and knowledge from what you teach, what you write about, but also life experience, being married for, what is it? 40 years. Four decades. Yeah. Which we talked about this in previous episodes as well, but really marrying these frequencies to love and relationships, I think, will be an interesting thing. You have this on page 148 of the book.

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So true. I mean, it doesn't mean there's not challenges or adversities that I face from time to time. Even before you were here today, I was going through some challenges with business stuff and some frustrations. But I wake up and I walk outside and I just put my arms up and I say, thank you, God, for this beautiful day and everything you've given me. I'm so grateful and blessed.

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I'm just like, man, it's like such a gift. Yeah. And I think about this stat that 150,000 people die every day in the world. But we're not one of them today. Today, we're not one of them. And that alone is a gift. Like, that's a reason to find joy. Even if... things aren't going well.

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Even if you're going through a horrible breakup, even if you're not happy with the government, even if someone cheated on you, lied to you, stole from you, hurt you, abandoned you, abused you, what a gift to be alive. It's not enjoyable. I'm not saying stay in that space, but still, man, what a gift and opportunity. And should we feel guilty?

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Like you said, should you feel guilty to be grateful like the things that we get at this day to be alive?

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If God created us to be good, why does every negative emotion come easily and being good or experiencing joy takes work?

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Depends on someone's definition. You know, just for some people's definition of greatness, it might be, you know, being alive and living a decent life, right? It's like just being here is greatness. It depends on someone's definition. But for my definition, I don't think there is. I think you've got to be willing to overcome yourself constantly. And that's hard work.

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You've got to be willing to make better decisions every day than the temptations. That might seem easy.

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It takes intention. It takes effort. It takes focus.

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Again, this book's really powerful. I want people to get it. It's called The Seven Frequencies of Communication. the hidden language of human connection. On page 148, you say that your sound waves do not simply send out your thoughts and ideas, but your sound waves are an extension of you.

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Then we're going to Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Francisco. Make sure to get your tickets right now. Go to lewishouse.com slash tour. Again, bring everyone you know if you're looking to create more financial freedom and abundance in your life and you want to see a massive guest live on the School of Greatness show. Get your tickets. I can't wait to see you there.

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Courageously, yeah. How does someone have faith, though, in a future they can't see that is not here yet?

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Yes. And there's cellular memory also.

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That's beautiful, yeah. So much good stuff here, but I know you've got to catch a plane here, so I want to be mindful of this. I want people to get the book, Seven Frequencies of Communication, The Hidden Language of Human Connection. And again, we're speaking about in this book, people are going to learn about what their core frequency is.

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Yes. And so you'll learn what your frequency is. We'll have a link up to the assessment as well in the show notes. You can learn what your frequencies are. what the shadow side is for you and also how to overcome that and step into the more light version of your frequency and also how to tap into the different frequencies.

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So you can really, the more you can master all of them, the more you can impact people around you and understand them and have the empathy, like you said, and be more authentic, like you said, which it was needed to have a greater impact and connection with someone. Absolutely. So you'll learn that through this process. Very powerful. Again, you'll find out which one you are.

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Motivator, challenger, commander, healer, professor, seer, and what Erwin is, the maven. Should be maverick, you know? Is it kind of similar to like a maverick or no?

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So make sure you guys get a copy of the book. Get a few for your friends as well. ErwinMcManus.com is where you can get a lot of the other stuff and that'll be linked up to the book and everything else. Um, if you're in LA, go to, uh, the church, it's an amazing church was a check it out.

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And, um, if you want to have more inspiration, community connection, you can check that out on Sundays, or you can watch the live stream also, wherever you are in the world, where do people go to watch that live stream?

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Okay, cool. And this church is also in different locations.

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Okay, very cool. But also the main, there's a live stream also of the main church here in LA. From Hollywood, yeah. All over the place. So check that out. That'll be linked up as well at Mosaic. How else can we be of service to you, Erwin?

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Awesome. We had another interview we did, I think it was like a year and a half ago, maybe, where we talked about each one of these frequencies.

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And so you guys will have that linked up as well. You guys can check that out. And you talk about your three truths and your definition of greatness there. So I'll have people go listen and watch there to get that answer. But I'm curious if you could go 10 years in the future, you say you're 66 now, if you can go 10 years in the future,

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and your 76-year-old self was sitting in front of you and he could give you one piece of advice on what you need to do from this moment until the next 10 years, if you could see into the future what you're able to do, what is the message that your 76-year-old self would tell you?

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Oh, man, I just got chills. That's beautiful. You belong. Appreciate you. Love you, my brother. Love you too. Thank you very much.

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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And also, I guess, the words and the sound or the tone of our words. That's right. It's the combination. It's the word and the frequency of the word, the sound. Yeah. can connect us, but also you could take that and it could connect you to others through someone else, right?

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It's like if you're transmuting something into someone else, speaking life into them as God did to us, that person, you could be the ripple where they could speak it into others too.

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How can we start to anchor ourselves to speak with more positive frequency? And do the words we say matter or how we say the words matter more?

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Hey guys, Lewis Howes here, and thank you so much for being here. I am excited about this. I'm a big fan of Erwin McManus, and this episode is going to provide practical wisdom for anyone looking to improve their ability to connect with other people and attract more fulfilling relationships in your life.

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Yeah, something about the way he looked at you or the way he like... I wasn't even looking at him.

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Yeah. The interpretation of it was different.

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Yeah. There's a few things that you talk about that I think are really interesting. And I want to share a few of these things. But you talk about words and frequency. And there was a line somewhere that you said, words are as close to alchemy as we could ever come. And words are magic. And I'm curious.

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What does that mean when it comes to figuring out how to attract someone we care about, we're interested in, we want to build a relationship, how to use words and frequency that we have with our voice to attract a quality relationship?

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And the interesting thing is we tend to attract relationships that match our level of self-worth. And this is the key. We need to break that pattern so we can create different relationships that unlock abundance in our life, that unlock peace, that unlock joy, more love, more freedom. And I want that for you. I want you to feel free in every area of your life.

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Yes, yes. Ma'am, that's probably, yeah. So you're saying that if Kim, you wouldn't have made it if you were only listening to her words. Is that what you said? That's right. And so words have a frequency from my understanding.

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And also there's a frequency that's underneath the words as well, right?

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Why is that? I mean, why is that? And how do we tap into a frequency within us that has a greater impact on ourselves when we speak, but also on others when we speak?

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Bicycles in the backyard, yeah, yeah.

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How do we manifest something that we really want or desire in our life when there are parts of us that have completely traumatized and ruined our lives? Is there an ability to create the life we desire and want without healing or transforming traumas and pain that ruins us and cripples us still?

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So if we believe that we are not worthy of something, what are we saying about ourselves and what's possible for us?

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It sounds like Every human being is kind of schizophrenic or has multiple personality types.

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Which sounds crazy to think about.

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They haven't grown up yet.

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How many parts of us does each individual have?

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Right. So we have, we, and does everyone build these defense mechanisms up?

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It's just, they look different for each person.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money This moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness.

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Yes, curiosity, compassion, calmness, clarity, creativity, connectedness, courage, and confidence.

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There you go.

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So everyone has an inner parent.

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And how we release the blocks is how.

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Is that through the core beliefs of like understanding core beliefs?

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It's a four-step practice. Okay.

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Right. And you created a four-step process for us.

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Yeah, I'm ready to go.

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Well, there's something you said in chapter three about core beliefs, because I think a lot of people hear about their behaviors and beliefs and that we have this a block based on our beliefs, whether that's a childhood belief or a current belief as an adult.

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And you say that the hard truth is that although we can make surface level adjustments to our actions, true change can only happen when we heal from within and address the core beliefs that block us from manifesting the life we desire. So I guess, would this four-step process help us address the core beliefs that are blocking us in manifesting what we want?

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And if so, then what is that process?

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So you're connecting higher self currently to the self that was destructive or harmed or the manager. To the parts.

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The manager or firefighter parts of you. That's correct, baby. That cause stress or anxiety or control or perfectionism or whatever it might be.

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What is the biggest challenge with having success, fame and money at a young age?

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Just taking photos mostly, right? Yeah.

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Do you ever feel like guilty for how easy it's been?

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Right. Right. You haven't said yes to every shiny opportunity. You've been like, no, no, no. This is for us. We're going to do it. I like this.

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When you're hearing all these other child actors coming out about... Yeah, you hear all these other stories.

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Wow. You know how many money wounds or traumas, huh?

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Yeah. Well, it sounds like your parents have been an amazing foundation for you for knowing yourself, being yourself, you know, empowering you to step into yourself.

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Even though you were in your late 60s at that point and you were an adult and you could logically say, well, I have resources, I have protection, I have a home, I have money, I have safety, but the little boy in you

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It's interesting that the first thing we talked about, I don't know if it was when we were rolling or right before, You mentioned how you want to learn how to build mental fortitude and how to overcome challenges. Is it feeling, I mean, because it kind of sounds like from your perspective, what I'm hearing is that you haven't had a lot of challenges in your life. Like it's come pretty easily.

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I'm sure you've had to, yeah, work 18 hour days and fly back and forth from Harvard to LA and do like work at a high level.

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But not a lot of extreme adversities is what I'm hearing. Is that what I'm hearing?

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Yeah, so it's funny.

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If you're not willing to invest in doing hard things now, you're going to experience a lot of pain later and it's going to be a lot harder to manage them mentally, emotionally.

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And so learning how to navigate your own minds at this age and investing in, which I don't think people should say, I'm just going to experience pain all day so that I'm prepared for pain later and it doesn't hurt me as much. Because I really do believe life should be about creativity and flow and joy and love and fun.

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I believe that's what we should be focusing on and intending to create every day if we can. How can we bring joy and love and service to this moment? And how can I be my creative, authentic, honest self like you talked about, which is alignment. And when we're in alignment, things flow to us easily. And we can see and discern things like you talked about. But I do believe there is a level of

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time every day where there's discipline, where I'm gonna say no to temptations, or no to the coke all day, or no to the alcohol all day, or no to partying every day, all night, or to only fun, extreme things. Because if you're not fortifying your mind, it will be hard to face adversity later. When it will come, it will hit you hard. It'll be unexpected and it will hit you.

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And if you're not preparing little by little, it's going to be daunting.

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No, no. I mean, as a kid, I was confused and scared and, you know, rebellious.

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No, I learned it. I mean, in high school, I learned how to be disciplined because then I had a goal of sports. And so it was 5 a.m. You know, I was waking up at 5 a.m. and doing study hall and reading the Bible in the morning. I went to a private boarding school when I was 13. So it was like very strict in terms of like you study from 6 to 8.

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You go to bed, you get up, you work out, all these things. And... And in college, when it was like you didn't have the house parents in the dorm kind of telling you what to do, you had to create your schedule. But I was so clear in my vision and my dream that I was willing to sacrifice anything. So I would give up all of the fun of life.

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I would have fun, but I wouldn't do the things that people said were fun. Drinking and going out and do these things. I was like, that's not fun to me.

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I wasn't interested. Yeah. And learning that skill set of disciplining my mind to say no and to be okay with people not understanding me. That was a scary thing because I wanted to have friends.

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because i kind of felt alone as a kid so i wanted friends but they didn't understand me because i was going off chasing a dream and i was you know getting up at five or going to bed at ten or whatever it was because i was committed to something you know and so maybe people didn't understand you oh you're on set 18 hours a day like just come hang out with us after school we're just like going to hang out and run down la or whatever you know so but you're like no this is fun to me

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And this is part of a dream and a curiosity that I'm leaning into. And it's providing financial abundance and opportunities that are going to set me up for my future. So it's just making a decision. Do you think a lot of your peers in terms of People your age struggle with discipline and they just chase fun and hours of social media distraction that isn't supporting their vision.

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I saw that at Harvard and so but you've been in communities of people at the top of the top these are people that are like Working full time that are in the acting world or the production world or Harvard, which is a very elite level of commitment.

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But that's a lot of people that are like, again, who are striving to be at the top, that are very creatively talented, that are in elite rooms. But that's not, I wouldn't say that's most 20-year-olds or 24-year-olds or people in their late teens right now in America, right?

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What generation is that? Gen Z. It's technically Gen Z still.

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Because there was no- You weren't watching everything online about every problem in the world all at once.

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Right, and going to their house or whatever, yeah, yeah.

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They could see everything all at once.

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Yeah, one of the things, you know, my... Early on, I was just taught never to watch news and entertainment, just get updates. Because you can easily, emotionally, especially if you're empathetic, you can be like, 10,000 people died today in this other part of the world. What is wrong with them? That can take over your whole life.

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one person died in my town and there was a shooting, that could take up your whole life. And if you're seeing it sensationalized, if you're entertained through the visual expression, sound, audio, video, making it like a movie,

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it's for me it's exhausting so i can't watch the news i can read it and be informed and educated and be like okay um and just but the entertainment of it or the clips of it just constantly it's just i don't think it's good for the brain and i think building mental fortitude is learning how to block out that and say how can i be educated and updated but not entertained by fear

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Yeah, it's different.

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Yeah. Every news channel and every political podcast has their bias and their opinion. They're going to be spreading opinions one way or another. But when you read it and you just read the updates, usually you're just saying, okay, this is what happened. You can form your own opinion. That's what I've learned.

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Yeah. Feed your soul. This has been awesome. I want to ask you a couple of final questions. That's cool. One of the things, you know, I got to meet your mom, lovely lady, and just seems super wise and fun at the same time. So congrats on calling in your mom as a child and entering this world with your parents. But I read that you grew up with your parents.

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either teaching you or showing you how to live a life of service. Like living a life of service was important and how can we add value and contribute to whatever it might be, friends, family, society. And I'm curious, what are your thoughts about service and what have you learned through being of service, being a giver, finding ways to add value?

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What have you learned about how giving allows you to receive as well?

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Yeah. Not when you need that.

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What happens when someone who is experiencing some type of mental or emotional altercation in their body decides to go the medical route versus the healing somatic route?

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100%.

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There are two big things happening at one time that I've never done before. I'm going on a book tour for my new book, Make Money Easy, and I'm doing a podcast tour at the same time. It is going to be big and I'm going to seven cities in 10 days. Get your friends, get your family, bring everyone you know to these cities. I'm coming to Austin, Texas, New York, Boston. We're going to Nashville.

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And they won't go through those emotional changes.

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What is the most interesting thing you've learned In the last year while working on your book and working with women who have gone through all these different complicated, you know, emotions.

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Wow. What are you most excited about in your life?

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I mean, I've heard you talk about the loss of your three brothers who you've lost, right? What is that? How do you navigate being a mom when you lost three siblings in your current family and then you have kids?

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How do you just navigate life with the loss but also the love that you have?

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You think he died of a broken heart?

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Do you have any advice for people who are grieving a loss of life on how to also take care of themselves so they don't decline?

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Yeah. So don't lose yourself in the grieving process.

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Wow. I'm curious in a moment for you to share the biggest thing that's opened up for you or the most important thing from this conversation that you want people to take away from. For me, it was how men can be educated and informed more. And so that when the time comes, Even if they don't know how to navigate it, at least they can say, I'm here for you.

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I'm here for you. I'm going to learn the best I can. And I'm going to do my best to be here for you. And I think if a woman sees their partner, their male partner, even do that, it should help them feel a little more safe.

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And they're never going to because they're not going to experience it.

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So women watching, send this to your men so they can understand the gist saying, I understand you're going through something and I'm going to do my best. It's a good start.

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The next thing is the five keys to kind of taking care of your health pre-menopause and during it so that you can optimize the experience and you don't have to suffer as much and hopefully not suffer at all through these different kind of five keys that you laid out. And then I would also say like just the, I think sex is really important in keeping a relationship healthy.

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So doing the things sexually, specifically with like the creams and other things, that could be an easy relief for making it still work for you.

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So those would be kind of three things that stuck away from me. But what would you say is the number one takeaway for you that you share that you want everyone to be reminded of?

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That's great, that's beautiful. As someone who's been studying this for two decades plus, what has been the biggest shock for you in the last few years around

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how to live longer and anti-aging that you thought 20 years ago, this is the way, but actually you're starting to wake up and see new research or studies or personal strategies that you're like, oh, that's not the way, this is actually the way.

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Like chronological aging versus biological aging.

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It's kind of fascinating, isn't it? It's very fascinating. So how do we reset it within ourselves?

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It would just be like a blob, right? Right. It's just, you know.

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Like what, reverse o'clock 10 years overnight or something?

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Really? Yeah. Come on. How far away are we from this?

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Are you testing any of this stuff on yourself? Are you doing any stem cell injections or like going to these labs and trying these things? Or are you just researching and noticing?

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Because even on your speech that you had with Dr. Valtolongo, he was saying people thought it was 16 hours. Now it's actually more 12-hour time-restricted. Is that right? I don't know if that's the new research.

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So when should you stop eating before you go to sleep? Like how much time should you have before you go to sleep?

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Is that no, like, treats, not even a little snack, a couple of nuts?

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You can drink water or whatever is fine.

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But isn't it good to sleep cold? Isn't that like dark room, cold?

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When your bones cold. It's your bones cold.

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I mean, you know, food plays a big part in it. What would you say would be a few foods that you would recommend to help with optimal sleep? or with optimal sleep. Like what three to five foods should we be eating to support us in sleeping better and what should we remove to help us sleep better?

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And one of the biggest, I guess, risk factors for disease with menopause?

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Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, if you could create an optimal day protocol, let's just say you have all things perfect in life and you can wake up, go to sleep at a certain time, eat what you want, train the way you want, do hot, do cold, like you have a perfect day all the time in the world. How would you set up your perfect day protocol with sleep, food and workouts?

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For, yeah, optimal human protocol for longevity, for optimal strength currently. Like what would that perfect day look like for you? What would you eat? When would you wake up?

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How would you train? Would you do any like heat, cold, you know, any of that stuff? Would you do a... Oxygen chamber. All the time. Anything you can do.

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So I'll have... So a little bit of food before the workout, then more after.

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Really? Yeah. So it's like a cocoa powder.

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Just water, blend it in or mix it in. Right. Okay.

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Hormone therapy. What's the art? Replacement. Hormone replacement therapy. What if women don't like the idea of taking drugs or therapies?

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Where do you think you'd be without taking supplements? You think you'd still be as healthy and optimal as you are? Or is it just more of a psychological boost for you?

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So you can still prevent the increases of disease by doing the other things correctly.

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And the only way you can get omega-3, is that from fish?

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There are a lot of fish in their diet.

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Wow. But you can't eat too much fish because of mercury, right?

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Do you have a list on your site anywhere of all the supplements you take?

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Really? I want your list then. That's what I want.

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Okay. Simplify it for people. If they're like, I can't take these 30 supplements and I don't know, you know.

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What happens when you give a woman experiencing menopause an antidepressant?

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Which brands are good? Which ones are not good?

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Right, right. But then you'd be focusing on the magnesium-based foods.

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Okay, top five supplements. What if you could only get five supplements a day? What would those top five be?

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Do you feel like there, I mean, is there such a thing as a chemical imbalance in some people? You know, when they say, oh, I have a depression, it's a disease, or bipolar, or I have this mental health disease, or I have a chemical imbalance, I was treated with this, don't try to say I don't, because this is who I am. Is that, do some people have that? Or is that...

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It's also like if HRT, if it sounds like it could be right for you, it doesn't mean you should stop eating fiber and sleeping well and stop moving.

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Oh, man. This is powerful. Gosh. I want to go back to what you said when you were experiencing this traumatic event in the family you had recently where you were wearing a glucose monitor. And you mentioned that there was a process. You realized the monitor went through the roof.

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Heart palpitations, stress, you could feel your physical, your body changing into this stress response, this protection, tightness, whatever it was. Fear, anxiety, all these things you were experiencing in the moment. What was the process that you broke down to bring it back to more normal levels for yourself of feeling more peace, groundedness, calm?

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I think I saw one of your videos on Instagram that was like, this is my daily menopause routine. But it was like 17 different things. It was like a cream and pills and this and that. I was like, that can seem daunting.

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Would that be considered like fight or flight, whether it's someone cutting you off in front of you on the street in the car or someone yelling at you or someone, whatever, an event happening, which is causing you to react in fight or flight, whether it's a massive T trauma or little T trauma, right?

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Wow. But I mean, a hundred years ago, women didn't have these options.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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It seems like the medical world has failed women.

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How can men who lack potentially the emotional agility to navigate anyone else's emotions beyond theirs? Yeah. Let alone, you know, once a few days out of a month, like they're maybe used to with the partner they're with to now what could be any day of the week for years of emotional uncertainty. How can a man, you know, how can a woman send this to a man in their life and say, I'm not crazy.

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I'm just going through this season of life. I'm trying to do everything I can to navigate and manage it and balance everything. But what would you say to men who maybe don't have the tools, don't have the experience, don't have the emotional capacity within themselves to look at emotions? Be there for the women that they love.

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Without... you know, making them wrong, shaming them, telling them like, figure your life out. I can't help you. Like, what can a man do with their capabilities without telling them to go learn a million things? I don't know. Like they still have their lives, their responsibilities, their stresses as well. What can men do to help women in menopause?

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Yeah. Wow. It's probably a journey for men too.

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In this phase. What, what do you think is the biggest challenge that men go through in terms of watching the see the woman transform into something different. What is the biggest challenge that men go through after, I guess, postmenopause?

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It's either way, whether you like it or not, it's happening.

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Is that more of a mindset? Like approaching it with a positive mindset or an attitude of like, hey.

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What is the age again for premenopause to menopause?

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What is the, I guess, what is the oldest woman who had menopause? Do we know? And is there a way to prolong menopause? This is a great question.

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What would life look like for a woman that never had menopause and lived until they died?

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There are two big things happening at one time that I've never done before. I'm going on a book tour for my new book, Make Money Easy, and I'm doing a podcast tour at the same time. It is going to be big, and I'm going to seven cities in 10 days. Get your friends, get your family, bring everyone you know to these cities. I'm coming to Austin, Texas, New York, Boston, We're going to Nashville.

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Right. And when a credit card is so easy to open up and everyone's selling them to you and hey, get this, you get a couple hundred dollars free when you open it up.

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What else is keeping most people broke? Is it a mindset? Is it the habits and the actions? Is it the environment, the people they spend time with? Yeah.

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So the people that are depositing into you, the people kind of in your same sphere of influence, what decisions are you making together? And then are you depositing into someone else?

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You are an example of what you do consistently every day, year after year, decade after decade, playing the long game of what you can create in the physical world. And I think that's a good representation of what I've learned from you about building wealth over time. It's not about doing it quickly. It's not about trying to find some scheme that you can get into.

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and build this overnight, but it's about doing the consistent integrity things over time. I'm curious, besides the steps, the seven baby steps, what are a few things people can start doing to increase the odds of wealth over time, to increasing the odds? Is it something mentally they can do, spiritually they can do?

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Is there something in their relationships they can do differently to increase the odds?

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Why is that so enticing? Why do so many people jump into that with all their money or all their savings or take out debt just to invest in the 17 new things a year that seem like one or two people actually made a few million dollars? but probably end up losing it a year later. Why is that such an enticing thing for people who work so hard at making their money?

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Yeah, that's a big one, man. Looking good is tough. If you don't feel good on the inside, it doesn't matter how much money and how good you look, how shiny you are on the outside. If it doesn't feel confident in yourself and proud of yourself, of what you're creating. I'm curious, you've talked to a lot of different individuals, parents, families about money.

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How often does someone, when they know like, hey, this is a big risk investment, The chances are of you making 10x on your return in one year or six months is so slim or 100x returns in two years is so slim. But why do people sometimes go all in on the money they have or 90% of their money on things that have a 1% chance of actually getting more than a double return within a year?

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26 years of your wisdom, you could do this at 26.

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What would you say are the three biggest conversation mistakes that parents teach their kids around money in general? Or three things that they don't teach they should be teaching. What are they saying that's maybe not the best thing they should say? You know, you had your experience, but what are other people saying that you're hearing?

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What does generous mean for people that – feel like they're struggling to live their own lifestyle of going out with friends once a week or having a dinner every couple of weeks or just doing some basic activities to enjoy life beyond free activities. How does generosity look like for those individuals?

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Protect your car. Exactly. I'm curious, what was the... What was the most generous year you've ever been financially? You don't have to say how much you gave or tithed that year, but what was the most you ever gave back in one year? Can you remember that year?

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So what questions should you ask an organization, a church, or a foundation that you want to give a big sum of money to? What questions should you ask the leaders of to know that they have a mindset capable of managing that much money. Because typically if you come from not having enough and that's how you've always been, and then all of a sudden you get more, you may not be ready for it.

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So what questions should we ask before we make those investments and give that generously to know that, okay, this person is actually at the right stage of their life to handle this big lump sum of money and all the donors that I'm gonna bring them.

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It's the most fun you'll ever have with money. Now you said, I think you said the year before last was the most that you gave. Yeah. That was that million dollar day. That was it. Okay. So, so essentially like a year and a month ago or something, right? It was, is that what it was? Like a year and a half ago or something like that. I'm curious.

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Um, every, uh, every individual that I've interviewed or talked to, you know, 10 plus years, my senior, um, they all talk, who I really admire, they all talk about generosity and giving and making it something you do early on in your life in any way capacity that you can and giving more and more the more you are able to give more.

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And they say, the thing that always happens is I always make more when I give, even like a little bit uncomfortably when I give more than I think, ah, can I really do this? The next year always becomes bigger. I'm curious, was the last, year, one of your biggest years? No. No?

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It's awful, you know. What do you think happens to people that never give? That they just earn for themselves or they keep it in their business and they only put it back in their business, but they don't think about giving outside of the business?

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It changes the way you parent, you know? Because if you don't give in one area, if you say, I'm going to hold back my money and I'm going to keep it here, you're probably not going to give generously to your spouse or to your kids or to your friends or community, right?

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Yeah, that's beautiful. Speaking of marriage, it seems like money affects marriages a lot. I'm curious what or it could empower marriages or could it hurt marriages if not handled properly? I'm curious. If you were to give advice on a couple dating for a few years, looking to get married, what are a few questions they must have and align to about money

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that might be uncomfortable to have those questions, but we'll actually get you clear on, hey, are we the right match?

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In terms of our money mindset, in terms of what we're gonna do with money for the next, and maybe you have this question in the first few months of dating, you don't wait two years, but what are those questions that people should be asking before they align with someone romantically long-term?

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This is the number one thing that either hurts or ends marriage is what I'm hearing you say.

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You mean it doesn't happen by accident?

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I'm curious then, what's a question a woman should ask to her man within the first few months of dating about money? where she could get a sense if he's fully honest and integrity with what he's saying and not just saying something to make her, you know, feel happy. What is a question she can ask to feel like, OK, this man I'm dating and courting and we're getting into this life with.

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I feel like I can trust him with money for the future.

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got a friend who's a plumber who's making multiple six figures a year absolutely as a solo plumber crushing it and he's like i go golfing every week i travel i was just in hawaii and he's got his own little business in vegas making multiple six figures i'm like you're crushing it he's like yeah no one wants to do this job i'm making bank no one man i just had a handyman come out to my house in nashville 60 bucks an hour probably or something 150 an hour i see y'all

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Do you think love is enough if you have... Religion, kids, family boundaries, kind of all in alignment and in harmony. But money is completely apart. But you love each other. You've been building this life together for a year or two, and you're like, should we get married or not? But we are so far apart. One's the fun and undisciplined person.

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One is the extreme saver and detail-oriented planner person. Is love enough to have a successful, long-term, healthy marriage if money is not there?

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Sure. What's the difference between saving and investing at your kind of scale? Or someone who's bringing in over a million dollars a year in their business and they've got some extra cash, what is the difference between saving and investing? Is there a difference at that level of like, okay, some money is just saved in an account and others are invested in different areas?

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What's the percentages of saving investing that people should be at?

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What do you think are three things that rich people do differently than the poor people or people that aren't thinking about building wealth in that way?

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Or they'll get sick or something will happen where

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So finding ways to give back. Are you giving back in a lot of other ways, philanthropically right now as well?

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Yeah, I think it's smart. And what would you say is one other thing that rich people do differently that poor people don't do?

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I don't even, maybe I'm weird, but I never even, I don't even know what my credit score is. I never, I never tried to get my credit score. I didn't even like check what my credit score was until like a year ago when I had to do some, I don't know, I signed up for some financial services thing and they had to like check it. And I was like, oh, okay. It's never meant anything to me.

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That's powerful. I love that. I'm curious, do you think the middle class is financially stuck? And if so, what can they do to start achieving more financial freedom?

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Yeah. And what would you say are a couple of qualities that you really look for when you're looking to invest in someone or when someone has an idea and whether you invest them or not, you're like, this person's going to be successful, whether it's in this thing or something else. What are those two or three qualities that all of them seem to have in your mind, whether it be a leadership skill or

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I love your take on things. I wanted to know, for those that are in their late teens, early 20s, what conversations should they be having with friends or mentors around money? I feel like a lot of people are afraid to talk about it or they don't share how much they make or how much a home costs or whatever. It's just like this hush-hush mentality.

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What should we be talking about in our late teens, early 20s, or even 30s? But what types of conversations should we be having to shift the narrative around money so we can start attracting it in our favor as opposed to rejecting it?

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Well, I had a used car. My dad taught me this principle. He always had used cars. Yeah, me too. And he had a used car for like 10, 15 years. I mean, he would keep it perfectly clean. Okay. In the highest condition for like 10, 15 years.

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And do you think someone in their late 40s and 50s, do you think it's too late for them to start learning about financial literacy if they've struggled in their 20s and 30s and 40s? Do you think it's too late to start investing and saving? What should people do in their 40s and early 50s?

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So it always looked and felt new, even though it was old.

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Should people die wealthy or should they die broke because they spent their wealth on charity or giving back or whatever, living their life and going on trips and adventures? What's your philosophy there?

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What do you think is the best investment you've ever made in yourself?

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you wanna make it easier, you wanna make it flow, you wanna feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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And if that's your thing, you like flashy cars, you like flashy watches, that's your thing? That's your thing. Cool.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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But don't do it because you need to feel better about yourself, in my opinion.

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You've been to Disneyland up here in LA?

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you realize from being broke and homeless that you wanted to learn, you wanted to teach wealth generation, but you didn't know how to make money at that point. No, I didn't. So you had to go on the journey of discovering what does that look like? What does that mean? How do I get out of debt? How do I earn a consistent living? How do I save it? How do I invest it? The whole process.

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Talking about the stick figures with the partner and the kids and the kids' kids. Mm-hmm. How important is choosing the right partner in making money, keeping money, investing money, building money?

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It's choosing the right person.

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What would be the three questions you would ask about money before you would move forward on a commitment of dating?

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And what should that conversation consist of?

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What do people in their 20s and 30s have to deal with if they don't have those conversations in their, you know, middle school, teenage years?

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Welcome to this special masterclass. We've brought some of the top experts in the world to help you unlock the power of your life through this specific theme today. It's going to be powerful, so let's go ahead and dive in. What do you see is the thing that holds people back the most from being their most creative and best self?

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wanted to go back into what you talked about what you know you mentioned transcendence and i think you mentioned you know the universe having your back when you asked for an answer uh with this you know particular song with system of down what's your thoughts on manifesting and manifesting something you want and alchemizing it into the world do you believe in manifesting do you believe in a uh you know artists should be thinking in that way or what's your thoughts on it i believe in it a million percent

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Wow. You have a whole, you know, kind of section about greatness and success in the creative act, a way of being, which I love your explanation there. That is fascinating. So greatness for you, what I'm hearing you say is a pure gift of yours to God.

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If you think of a formula for manifesting as an artist, what would that formula be? I don't think there's a formula. Is there an art to manifesting?

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Interesting. Because, you know, I... I love this. And I also hear the other side of the, I guess, the coin where, you know, I don't know if you know Ryan Holiday. Yeah, I do. The obstacle is the way is his kind of stoic philosophy of like when the obstacle is there, it presents itself. And you also feel like this is something you want to do.

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Like you've got to kind of go through that pain and then, you know, overcome it.

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But this other thing is guiding you.

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That's beautiful, man. Um, So you think that as artists, we should be thinking about manifesting, but not in the terms of doing less, but putting the maximum into making it great.

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How do you navigate putting art out there and being like, oh, I hope people like this and they don't give me negative feedback versus people are going to like it or hate it or whatever. They're going to respond to it. How do you navigate you feeling good about it? No matter what happens to it in the world.

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When you printed those first 500 singles... What was your dream or your vision? Was it, okay, now I'm going to, how do I sell these? How am I going to give them away for free? What was the process for you?

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What was it like when you came out with your first song that was a mega hit? What was the feeling before that launched versus the most recent, Unreal on Earth? Is the feeling still the same?

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But at this point, you're sustainable probably for life, I'm assuming, with the success you've had. So you don't have to make something to try to make your money back or get your time back or whatever. So what is the vision now?

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Like when you launch, you know, an album and it doesn't do the numbers in your mind, you're like, well, I hope it does this many downloads or streams in the first month or year. Yeah. If it doesn't do that, or if it does do that, how do you navigate that expectation?

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And they wanted to win.

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If you have a career or a business around it, sure, you want to figure out a way to make money and survive. But I think you have to be proud of the quality of work, no matter if it sells millions of copies or one copy. Totally, totally. Does it represent you? That's beautiful. Yeah. Man, Andrew, there's a lot I would love to talk more about with you. We'll have to have you back on another time.

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But I want people to check out your new album, Unreal on Earth. I want them to come to watch you live on tour, man, which I'm going to do one of these days. Please do.

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I'm curious, in the last decade, what has been the biggest transformation you've seen within yourself through this journey of success and experience and making all this art? And what is the biggest thing you still struggle with today?

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You weren't able to tour, you weren't able to go out and...

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And maybe it's just the way I was brought up. What does an artist need to be thinking and feeling at the same time to create great art?

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It's a nostril, you know? I can barely breathe, but I'm... Yeah, yeah.

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It is not well, but you're like, you're operating.

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So pandemic hits and that all stops and you have to face yourself. I guess so, yeah. What was the biggest fear that came to you when you weren't able to go on tour, you weren't seeing people and you had to turn around and face the parts of you that maybe you weren't aware of yet?

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what is the thing that you realized about your identity with yourself or your relationship to yourself when you no longer were chasing or on tour or distracted by facing yourself? I think it was

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How did that look like on a daily basis? What would that have been?

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And how do you know when an artist is being truthful in front of you?

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Like, no, that's not real. That's not true.

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And I'm assuming there wasn't, I mean, I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't know if in Ireland growing up, there was a lot of talk around mental health and having a good relationship with yourself and a healthy identity.

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I can feel it. Yeah. I think something that you said was, I have no skill set. It's all intuitive. It's not what's in my head. It comes through me. Yes. So you're not analyzing or thinking about it. You're saying, huh, something doesn't feel right. It starts with a feeling always.

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And, you know, I don't know if there was or not, but how did you learn to develop that then during that time without having any of those skills or tools for the first 30 years of your life?

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Yeah. So you're allowed... I mean, I'm really grateful you're talking about this because I wrote a whole book called The Mask of Masculinity. Okay. Seven years ago now, yeah, where... Because growing up, I felt like I had to be, you know, this strong man. I could never cry. I could never show my emotions in school, sports. And it tormented me inside.

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You know, it tormented me emotionally emotionally feeling like I had to wear a mask to fit in and belong, but it wasn't my truest authentic self. And when I hit about 30, that's when I started to unwind and start to navigate the therapy myself and reflect and heal. And it was extremely challenging.

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It's probably the hardest thing I've ever done is to let go of those masks and open myself up to myself. Turn around and look at all the parts of me that I was ashamed of or afraid of or scared of or insecure of and actually acknowledge them and look at them.

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And start to heal the little boy inside of me that still had a lot of guards up and fears and insecurities and doubts and shame and angers and resentments and all these different things that I was not proud of.

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and started to integrate my current self with my younger self and mend the wounds, the emotional or psychological wounds that were stored in the body and the nervous system to create alignment with the present and the now. And it was the most challenging thing I've ever done in my life, but it set me free. And as I'm sure you're into right now, healing is a journey.

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And I'm 10 years deep in the healing work, and I've never felt more free also knowing that you can't just stop doing the work. Yeah, yeah. Like I still go to therapy every month. I still show up and allow myself to talk about it and process things in a healthy, conscious way. in a safe way.

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And I think it's really inspiring to hear you talking about this because I can only imagine the amount of pressures that artists feel to create art. And I think a lot of artists tend to create from pain or suffering, it seems like, rather than peace and joy. But it's probably challenging because you're sharing it with the world, but you also still need to deal with it yourself.

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And it's just probably a messy process.

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It isn't interesting that no amount of success or money or fame will give you that piece of freedom that you're looking for.

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Yeah. But I think a lot of people, I don't think that's what you were doing. I don't think you were chasing that. You were being an artist and it took off. Yeah.

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But I think a lot of people in society and the world are looking to accelerate their career to have more status, to make more money, to have, you know, flashier things or success to fulfill a part of them that is insecure or afraid or doubting something. Yeah. And the more... I did that and the more others do that, it doesn't solve the problem.

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Why do this? Yeah, yeah.

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You still want more. Are you still comparing to what your peer might be doing? Oh, they're getting this opportunity, right?

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Wow, man, this is beautiful. I'm so happy you're talking about this though. And don't feel, and you know, don't feel like you need to open up about things here or anywhere. Until you feel you've processed things enough and you may never need to do that publicly either. It's just, I appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a, it's not a pressure here for that in any way.

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Do you have a process when you're starting the first session with an artist after you've been introduced and you say, okay, let's do this. We're going to work together. Do you have a process where you set a personal intention that you don't tell them, but then also you tell them what the intention is for your time working together?

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Um, but it sounds like you are in a journey of creating a healthy relationship with self. It's what I'm hearing you say.

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What do you think, Andrew, is available for you emotionally, internally, and externally in the world as you continue to navigate this healing journey for yourself? What do you feel like is available for you or your mission?

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Have you ever been out of alignment with yourself in this last decade with anything you've created or opportunities you've said yes to where you felt afterwards, that's not really what I wanted to do or... but I did it for ego or because whatever reason.

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This has been a powerful section, so I'm grateful we're talking about this, but I have a question about a couple of other things around your performance experience. I feel like, I hope they get to come watch you perform live sometime because I feel like it's a spiritual experience for the audience to watch what you do.

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I'm curious for you, what has been the most spiritual experience you've had while performing on stage where you felt like, Something is different here. I'm feeling something different. There's an energy that is elevated at a different level that I've ever been to. Or maybe I'm seeing myself from a different place or I'm forgetting the words, but I'm singing the word.

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Like, was there ever a spiritual experience for you that was so big and awe-inspiring while performing?

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Right before you're like, oh, thinking about it?

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How do you stay? I mean, how can you create a performance while thinking about the email you had to send to Larry? Yeah. And management or something.

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What is the poem that you've written, whether it be recently or in the beginning of your creative process that is giving you the most healing personally? Like when you wrote it, you felt you were healing. Every time you read it or perform it, you feel like you're healing. What is that poem?

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Yes. You have another quote or poem that you put online that says, how do we talk about the problems without feeding them? If we ignore them, we most likely keep repeating them. If we explore them, we run the risk of reinforcing them. So how then do we get down to the source of them?

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So if we talk about our problems or write about them or create about them, are we feeding the problem or are we solving the problem by processing them? How do we not recreate old traumas or memories or wounds by sharing stories over and over again that we're trying to heal from?

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Give me an example personally.

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So when you wrote it, how long did it take for you to fully feel at peace with the relationship you had with him or lack of relationship you had with him? How long did it take you to be like, I'm at peace with this. I forgive. I'm at peace.

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What's the most painful thing that you've had to overcome emotionally or internally that maybe it took you a long time to overcome or maybe it just was a really painful thing to overcome and you really wished it didn't happen?

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There's no control. None. And if an artist has a big expectation, I need to put out a record that's going to do well. I need to make money. I need to make the label happy, whatever it is. My fans need to love this. then that could feel like a lot of pressure. But do you allow that pressure to affect you?

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why is it so hard for most people to put out something that is their art or their expression but also has sadness pain loss embarrassment tied to it in some way why is that so challenging for anyone let alone artists because they're scared to be rejected for truly showing us who they are but the thing is like

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It wasn't fully authentic. It wasn't fully you.

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I think a lot of it was... when I started opening up about vulnerable things to individuals, to friends, to family, and then kind of publicly, you know, my expression to the world in different ways, I think I was, so depressed, you know, this line from like Jim Carrey comes to me where it's like depression is like you needing deep rest from the character you've been playing. Something like that.

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It's like you are depressed because you need deep rest from the character you've been playing. It's like you've been wearing some mask, you've been putting on some identity that's not truly you. Maybe parts of you are out there, but not all of you. And so a lot of me was out there, but there were other parts of me that were afraid if

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you or anyone actually knew who I was, what I'd been through, what had happened to me. Would anyone like me or love me? And that was the ultimate fear. If people truly knew they would never like me and then I would be alone and then I would die alone and suffer for the rest of my life. That's kind of the fear that I had. And so I think I just felt like

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I'd rather be alone and know a like me than everyone know just parts of me and not all of me. And I think it got to that point when I hit 30 that I realized there were parts of me that people weren't aware of. And I wasn't willing to face them myself, let alone share them with other people. And that just wasn't the life I wanted to live anymore.

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Now, it was scary on the other end because I didn't want to live alone and I didn't want to have people not like me or love me or accept me. But I think that's the risk probably every artist has to take to put their expression out there that you may not be liked or understood or loved. You may be criticized or hated or whatever might be, you know, taken advantage of for who you truly are.

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And I think that's the biggest fear. But I'd rather feel free and have no friends than be a prisoner and have everyone like me.

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When did you write that one? I don't remember. Is it like a few years ago or is this like a decade ago?

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It's more recent, yeah.

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Of all the poems that you've written and performed, how many of them talk about love?

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What would you say, how long have you been doing poetry? Would you say like officially, you know, that's part of your thing. Not just like, I did it when I was like seven, a little bit here and there, but like, what was the year where you're like, oh, I'm doing this consistently. Do you remember?

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What do you feel like has been the biggest lesson around self-love in the last 30 years of writing and performing poetry that you've discovered and had to learn?

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So it might be, okay, I heard the birds sing and you thought of this idea. Maybe you're on the phone with a music person and you're like, oh, they're not singing to join a Grammy. And you're like, okay, where could I take this in other areas of life? Is that kind of how it starts or...?

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You have this other, do you call them poems when you put something online, like an Instagram post? Is that like a short poem or is that like a phrase within a poem usually? Yeah.

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It seems like a lot of people, they're focused on what other people think, like you said, and it almost, it blocks them into this kind of rut feeling, I guess, that they feel like they're stuck in a rut. I don't know if you've heard this before with a lot of your artists, but with With me as a writer and an author, I've heard so many people come to me and say, I want to write a book.

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Poem within a poem, I guess you call it, about love that you shared recently. It said, love is not a guarantee. It will come and it will leave. It relies on your belief, so it will bring you to your knees. Love is weak, love is lost. Love is grief, love is loss. Love is risk, love is real. But love is worth the pain we feel. Where did that come from?

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Can you share that whole poem?

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Man, this is fascinating. Was there was there what was the experience for you where the artist or the band came in? And it was the fastest, best flowing process you've ever experienced, where just everything was lining up. Authenticity, truth, you know, raw realness was happening every day.

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And it was also, it was a great success for them personally to have the art be real and honest, but it also landed... commercially and took off.

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And I ask them, how long have you been, had this idea that you wanted to write this book about this thing? And some people will say five, seven, 10 years, but they've been worried about what people think, or they feel creatively stuck in a rut. Do you ever feel stuck in a rut? And if so, how do you personally get out of that?

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How important is confidence for an artist in your mind to have? Because I've, I've been around some of the greatest athletes in, that are freaks of nature athletically, that are gifted beyond anything physically, who can do anything in practice, but then they lacked the confidence in a game and they looked like an average player.

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Is that the same thing with artists, singers, guitar players, musicians, where they could be so gifted, but if there's a time when the pressure is on to record, then on the confidence, does that hold people back? Have you seen that?

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It's almost like what I'm hearing you say, this is really interesting point. It's almost like you just have to have courage to be vulnerable, which is not really confidence. It's more of like, you just got to, if you're unwilling to be courageous with your vulnerability, you just won't be able to share your art.

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takes a certain amount of confidence yes it's just part of the it's a hard thing to do i couldn't imagine doing it that's true my a friend of mine uh just uh rachel platten she just um she wrote a song called fight song that was you know really popular over the last six or seven years But she had, you know, she started a family over the last five years. So she's got two young kids.

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And I'd seen her play in the past where she was uber confident, but she hadn't played in a while. And so she came out and she was like, guys, I'm actually really nervous. And this is my first time playing, you know, kind of with a man with these new songs in a while. And I'm revealing myself of these new songs. You know, you could sense this, you know, vulnerability, which was actually beautiful.

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Yes. It was like, we're rooting for her. You know, she, she messed up a few times, but she kept going and she was like, Hey, I'm going to restart this. And thank you guys. You know, but it was like, wow. And it made moments of like awe and magic happen. Yes. It was so cool.

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You talk about transcendence, you talk about manifestation and the universe. I know you're a big meditator. How long have you been meditating for?

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Right. Transcendental meditation. Yeah. If you could go back to your 40 year old self, what would the number one piece of advice be for you at 40? If you can think about where you were then, who you were working with, the projects you were working on, the people in your life, knowing what you went through the last 20 years, um, what would you tell yourself then?

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Yeah, of course. Yeah. What brings you the most joy?

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That's great. Are you more of a wrestling fan or UFC now?

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They do hurt each other.

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They want it to be a win-win. It's a win-win. You talked about that in this documentary series about, you know, I love the video of you being like the ultimate promoter with the Beastie Boys in a commercial, like just being this hype man promoter, like, you know. How much has, I guess, pro wrestling influenced you as an artist? A lot.

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He knew the original story, the story before the story.

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Interesting.

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you know, show him that he is loved and held by you and also by God, right? You're loved and held by us. And the world is loving you and holding you high. It sounds like- And the river. And the river, right? It sounds like step two, you know, understanding we're all guided. It sounds like he was able to remember that he was loved and held and be guided into like having the answers within him

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for when his friend was telling him, no, that's not true. This is you were adopted or whatever it is he was saying. And it sounds like he had the inner strength to feel guided in that moment. And I'm curious, what have you learned as a psychologist about the

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science and spirituality of synchronicities, of knowing that we are guided and how to really have our antenna up and awareness up so that we can receive signals, signs, and the synchronicities of life to know where to move our energy toward to create more opportunities, abundance with our purpose.

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Will you tell the story?

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Well, I mean, I've probably told it out here a few times already, but I mean, there was just too many synchronicities that were just like, oh, this is, it was weird. It was weird synchronicities. I was like, okay, this is, and let me keep exploring. And these synchronicities were so weird that I was like, I felt like I was on the right path. I was like, let's keep hanging out another few days.

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Let's keep hanging out. You know, I didn't wanna not hang out there, but I was like, I need to keep exploring these conversations with you to see what unfolds. But the first day, you know, within the first five minutes where I knew something was different, I went to pick her up. I was visiting a buddy of mine in Mexico and near Tulum, and she was actually in Tulum at that time.

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And we had never met, but we connected online. And I just happened to respond to something that she posted online, right? She was posting something in nature actually. And I replied to that and I said, it looks beautiful there. That was it. I wasn't like hitting on her or anything. I just replied to what she was posting about.

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So nature was the first thing that I replied to within her interacting online. And then she replied, hello, my friend. How are you? Are you ever in my country? And I don't think she knew I was in Mexico, but I was in Mexico at that time. And I was assuming she met Mexico. So I said, yeah, I'm actually here with a friend right now in Playa del Carmen. And it's like an hour from Tulum.

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She goes, oh, I'm in Tulum. Let's hang out if you have time. So we ended up just getting together. When I picked her up, I had my buddy's Jeep and I had my phone, picked her up for dinner. I had my phone in the middle of the Jeep, in the middle of the seats in the front. And it was dark out because I was picking her up for dinner.

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And so my phone screen kind of turned on as I set it down, like the screen turned on and you could see my screensaver. And it was a photo of a boy, a little boy. And I could see that she looked at the phone because the screen popped up. You see this image of a little boy. And so I kind of looked at her and go, oh, don't worry, I don't have a son or anything. You know, it's our first time meeting.

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So I was like, oh, don't worry, I don't have a kid or anything. And she goes, I know what that is. She goes, that's you and you're healing your inner child. And I was like, I get chills just thinking about it. I was like, yeah. And she took her phone. She goes, here's a photo of me. I've been doing the same journey when she was five. I get chills thinking about it. And I'm just like,

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Oh, something's different right away. She understood the journey of healing that I was already on. And that had been up there for, I don't know, eight months on my phone, right? So I've had it for a while. And she was like, yeah, this is something I was doing like in the last year. And I'd been healing and transforming and...

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you know, probably getting out of a depressed state that was like a reawakening to seeing the world differently. And so even just in that moment, like that unlocked the conversation, the whole conversation was spiritual from the first moment. There was no surface. I can't do service anyways with anyone. We talk right away and I'm like, tell me about this, tell me about that.

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And so the whole conversation was spiritual. And the whole first few months was that, like every time. And some people might say, oh, that's too deep when you're like going on a date or you shouldn't be like going so deep so quickly or having spiritual conversations. But I think why wait to have those conversations? And they can be fun and lighthearted. They don't have to be deep and heavy.

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It can be like, wow, fascinating. You can get to learn about someone's soul sooner rather than six months down the line have those conversations. So for me, that was a synchronicity that said, oh, hang out again. And every time we hung out, there was just things like that that just kept happening. That was like, oh, there's some force that's more powerful pulling us to keep exploring.

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And I think I allowed myself to be open and stay in it without rushing to, this is the person I'm meant to be with forever because of one synchronicity. And I think I wanted to continue to not rush a lot of things, but just dive deeper spiritually, which created safety. It created a sense of safety and feeling at home within me and her feeling at home within her.

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So it made us feel more at home together. That was a powerful, you know, again, I would... I wish I would have learned this 20 years ago, but it happened at the right time. And I needed the painful moments, I think, to awaken to where I'm at today.

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And what happens when the bonding network engages in the brain? What happens to the body?

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Yeah. Yeah, it's beautiful.

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Yeah, and understanding if we believe that we are guided, that's what I was like doing. I go, okay, God, just show me the way. Let me just explore this a little more. Let's go hang out another day. Let's have more conversation. Let's just be guided into the possibility. Whether it works out or not, I'm just going to lean into this without rushing to conclusions.

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So what did you then learn from the research of the science of synchronicities and spirituality together?

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It sounds like you don't want to stuff the emotions, but you don't want to stay in the emotions. You got to learn to let it out in some healthy, conscious way, hopefully not hurting someone else in the process of your anger or resentment or frustration or whatever it might be. but you can't stay there also. So you can't spiritually bypass the emotion and just say, that didn't affect me.

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If it did, let it out and don't stay there. Don't keep reliving the trauma for years to come.

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I'm thinking John McElroy, the tennis player.

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Yeah, and I mean, the difference is freedom, it's peace. I think you're a prisoner of the past. when you don't forgive. And there's, there's, um, there's a reward for that as well. Like you get to be righteous, you get to be justice, you get to be right and then wrong.

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You get to be, you get validation from people having sympathy for you and understanding and understanding how something is not okay. And that was horrible with that person did and all these different things. You get rewards. But I just feel like the reward of forgiveness and setting yourself free is far greater than any other reward you could get by holding your grudge.

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And holding a grudge and being angry at someone or an event or the government or the world or the weather, whatever for ruining something in your life or hurting something in your life or causing a disruption in your life. And however, drastic or small it might be, holding a grudge onto that. That's a cost. There's a big cost. There's a big price you'll pay. There's a big price you'll pay.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money This moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness. What do the MRIs say from a brain that is connected to God or has a spiritual practice versus a brain that doesn't have a spiritual practice?

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Like taking your cat's paw and like rubbing it on you or just.

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I was going to say, I was going to get my cat tonight and just.

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So there's been a, there have been reports on lots of different dreams, right? There's been like people documenting their dreams and there's studies around that.

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So everyone has that in us, but we need to be practicing and believing it in order to experience it. Yes. What happens if we don't practice and believe that we are loved and held, we are guided and we are all one. We are never alone.

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Now, what if people, that's powerful. I'm glad you shared that. And what if people are listening or watching say, well, I can't remember any of my dreams and I don't think I dream at all because I can't remember them. So what's wrong with me and should I be worried if I don't have dreams?

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And as a clinical psychologist doing this research for a long time and doing all the MRI studies and working with individuals who have experienced this, is there any other way to get out of pain and suffering than seeking a spiritual practice?

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Okay, there's so many questions I want to ask here. Let's do it. There's different types of dreams. There's nightmares, there's erotic dreams, there's weird, crazy dreams, there's sleep paralysis. And I think I know what that is because I think I've had that a few different times.

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So I'd love to start there because this is something I can relate to where I've woken up but not been able to move or speak. Yeah. And I feel like I'm screaming but nothing's coming out. Yeah. What is that? Yeah.

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Tell me everything what it is.

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But you're a psychologist. Aren't there medicines that people can take that are gonna fix them or solve them? Aren't there drugs that people should be doing? And isn't this clinically proven that if you're depressed and you have mental health diseases that the medicine will set you free? Isn't that why we have medication?

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I've had it a couple times at night, like in the beginning of sleeping also, where I've like fallen asleep, But 30 minutes later, I've like woken up. It's almost I'm not asleep yet. That's my favorite time. I am for a minute. And so my fiance says, I mean, this is just from her theories.

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But she says, you know, that's you entering a lucid dreaming, like allowing that to happen, allowing that sleep paralysis to happen because you're half awake, half asleep. And if you stay there and you don't freak out and scream, I try to scream. You could actually enter. She says that's what happens for her. And she enters the most incredible lucid dreams that are vivid in memories for her.

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She's not wrong. And so it's more of just like surrendering to, ah, I can't move.

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What's the gift that we're all given that most of us never use?

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But why do so many of us reject God or a relationship with a higher power?

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What we consume, what we're putting in our physical space, the people in our environment, the conversations that we're hearing and listening to and having, all that stuff, right?

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It's offensive. Yeah, it's all offensive.

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To not be offensive or feeling exclusive if they don't have the similar belief. Is that right?

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Okay. If they have a different belief, we don't want to force something on them or talk about it if they feel uncomfortable or...

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Something that you said in one of your books called The Spiritual Child, I believe this one is. It talks about that you... talk about the next big idea in psychology, which is the science and the power of spirituality.

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And you're explaining the clear scientific link between spirituality and health and shows that children who have a positive active relationships to spirituality are 40% less likely to use and abuse substances, are 60% less likely to be depressed as teenagers, are 80% less likely to have dangerous or unprotected sex,

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and have significantly more positive markers for thriving, including an increased sense of meaning and purpose and high levels of academic success. Why do kids lack spiritual connection in a spiritual relationship today? Why is it parents aren't willing to encourage their kids? Do the parents not have the spiritual relationship? Why do you think that is in kids today?

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And what are the brains that are spiritually connected versus a lack of spiritual connection?

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Kids are like a portal. They're already a spiritual portal.

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It's your job not to throw on material animal magnetism types of thinking or thoughts or energy to diminish their spiritual power.

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And that's hard to do.

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When a child asks a question like, does God love bad people? Does God love evil people? Whatever, any question. And a parent says, yes. man, I think I know the answer, but I really don't know the answer. What should a parent do in that moment when a child asks a difficult spiritual question that the parent doesn't know the answer to?

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It feels it.

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I love that, man. Well, here's the thing why I think a lot of people might stay stuck is they... They allow their feelings to keep them in place of frustration. You have this great example that you say execution should be fact-based, not feeling-based. But people feel the overwhelm of the economy or the government or their parents or their partner or whatever the responsibilities of the world.

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They feel anxious, avoiding, overwhelmed, burnt out. like doubtful, insecure, and they allow feelings to consume their inaction. So what's an example of how someone can shift from being driven by emotions into fact-based actions towards their goals? It was what you teach, man, the meditation thing.

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Again, if we're. We're talking about really developing kind of a bulletproof mindset when the last five years for a lot of people has been a lot of stress, overwhelming anxiety. In order to have a more powerful, resilient mindset, how important is it for not just me and you, because I already know the answer for me and you. How important is it for everyone to have mentors in their life?

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After Jordan, after Jordan, everyone is first championship. He didn't say, I think I've got it figured out on my own. I don't need a coach. He said, let me find Tim to train me. Let me find the mindset coach, the recovery coach, you know, make sure we're getting to the next level.

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It's amazing, man. Bro, 40, a 40 chicken dunking on 20-year-olds.

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Yeah. And it's also being around other people who are in that mindset, who are pushing and you're seeing them grow and it's influencing you to grow. And you're yeah. So the community aspect of we're getting coached together, we're growing together, we're working our goals together, all that stuff. You've got an amazing challenge coming up.

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It's u2025.com where you're going to put people through a lot of what we've been talking about and more. 21 days. 21 days. Every day.

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Yeah, that's beautiful, man. So they can go to you 2025.com to register for that. That's powerful, man. I feel like I could talk to you for a long time on this, but I wanted to ask you a couple more questions before we wrap up.

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Again, we're going back to the 12 year old you who's down and out figuring about your dad's not your biological dad in your life, your mom lied, you know, challenges in life. And we're talking about where you're at now. Where do you think you'd be without a spiritual relationship with God in your life over the last 30-plus years with all the ups and downs?

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Where would you be in life right now, the ETU, with no spiritual relationship?

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You're a very driven person. You've shown that over your whole career, right? In your life. Overcome a lot of different challenges and adversities in the first time in so many different ways. When someone is going through a dark time,

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and however that looks for them, a breakup, a death, a letdown, any type of dark time in their life, is it possible to keep being driven in your career and your goals and your dreams when you're going through sadness and darkness and grief and loss without also being able to heal on the process? Can you heal and be driven at the same time

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Or is it only, you can be driven because you're masking the pain and the suffering and you're not actually addressing it. Is it possible to do both, be driven in the darkness?

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Instead of taking it one day at a time, what should we do?

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No one fully understands your life experiences. They might be able to relate to some things, but they don't fully understand and comprehend everything.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money and this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness. Do you think anyone can have a beautiful, amazing life if they live in a blaming mindset?

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Well, it's interesting you say that, because I've got an emotional coach that I work with, I was telling you about, pretty much every two weeks. She says like, healing is a journey. It's not like a destination where you're like, okay, now I'm healed. It's okay, now I've come to an awareness about the things. Now I've started processing it. Now I'm integrating the lessons.

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Now, oh, now I went back two steps because I triggered again. Now I reintegrate and I process it some more and time helps, but it may not heal all. You know what I mean? So it's our constant awareness of it. constant grace in the process of being a human being. You know what I mean?

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Yeah, I think it's inspiring when we have the courage to do the next thing and be aware that we're on a healing journey. I'm never gonna be fully healed, but I'm in the process of it. I'm working on it, I'm doing this and I'm gonna do it anyways.

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that's why i think it's really cool because in this off season that you're having in this last year you're filling up your cup of your health and wellness you're filling up your relationship cups you're filling up your adventure and travel cups you know your relaxation cup you're filling those up but you're emptying your cup of career and success and this to see the space of what can come in next that's right to see where you can grow into next yeah

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So I think it's a great analogy is like, you know, fill your fill another cup, you know? Yeah. But that cup, you got to empty it out. Yeah, exactly.

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But you look like you're in your best health and wellness phase of your, you know, since I've known you. Not that you were not in great shape before or emotionally in a good place, but you feel energetically peaceful. I see you training. I see you like getting healthy in even better ways.

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I see you with photos with your daughter and things like this and just like enjoying life together, traveling and bringing her in your life more and those trips. I'm sure you did that before too. And so you're able to experience things in a different way to allow for things to open up, which I think is great.

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You worked out in a different country.

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You spent 20 years building your career and you're, you know, stacking your income and saving and investing so that you have the opportunity after 20 years to do that.

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And have an urgency around it.

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So there's this, you know, I love your story about you were satisfied at 20 something years old in the back of the, you know, the cab or the black car, and you're satisfied now.

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And I think a lot of people hear this concept of never be satisfied, but we were just talking about how, you know, be satisfied with where you are, but also be striving for your purpose, your mission and stepping into that. And what are your thoughts on the idea of never be satisfied?

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Be satisfied even if you're just starting out as an assistant getting coffee, if you're the CEO, if you're anywhere in between, if you're in an off season.

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Yeah, it's okay. I'm a big fan of the title of the book, The Urgent Life. And when I saw this, I was just thinking to myself, yes, right away, because we have like similar, completely different experiences, but similar feelings probably from experiences we've had. So my father got in an accident. He had a traumatic brain injury and was in a coma for three months when I was 21.

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What would steps two and three be for setting people up for their ultimate life? What would that beginning process? Is it get clear on a goal? Is it start with motivation, start with discipline, like change your habits? What would the next couple steps be to set up the mindset for success?

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And I remember, we didn't know if he was gonna live or die, but he eventually woke up after three months. and he was a completely different person. Like he was physically alive, but emotionally and mentally kind of gone. It took him a while to like learn how to talk again. He wasn't able to work anymore. He had amnesia. So when I'd see him, he'd be like, what's your name again?

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It was just a different type of relationship, right? I had to learn to love my father for who he was and start to grieve the man that he once was before, right? And I remember thinking he was in his early 50s when this happened. He had worked so hard for 30 years as a life insurance salesman where he finally was starting to make money where he could travel and have some freedom in his life.

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And he was starting to feel like he was happy for the first time, fully happy. And then this accident happened. And I remember being really angry at life that my dad didn't get to go live the rest of his life the way he wanted to. And I felt like I had so much urgency to go pursue everything I wanted. Like from that moment on. I was like, I'm not gonna let any fear or insecurity hold me back.

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It might still be there, but I'm at least gonna take the actions on my goals, my dreams and live urgently because what if this happens to me? What if I get in a car accident tomorrow? And something like that happens to me, I'd be sad that I didn't at least go try.

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And this, you know, again, completely different experience you had, but it created a feeling of urgency in your life with your ex husband. Right.

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And which was almost ten years ago.

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And can you explain the story about what had happened with your husband around wanting to get divorced and then cancer situation and how this how being at a very dark, sad, challenging time, sad time, wanted you to create urgency at the same time and live into your best self during sadness.

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You know, you think that like- Unmet expectations, everything, yeah.

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What were you motivated by before then?

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You know? Moments of that might happen.

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The majority of the time it's probably like cleaning diapers and feeding and pumping and all the things that moms have to do.

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Wow. What was the biggest lesson during that time you feel like you learned about his regrets, about him not doing the things that he wanted to do? What opened up for you during that time that shifted, if anything did shift for you?

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Like just scheduling it in the calendar.

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Right. It doesn't make sense logically.

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Allow wonder and synchronicity to enter your life.

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And what would have happened if you would have listened to everyone else's fears and not made the jump?

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What are the three biggest reasons why people fail in a relationship? Why they end up getting divorced, end up getting separated, breaking up? Why do you think the... What are those three things that cause that?

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Do you think women really think that way when they see a guy who maybe is of hypothetical less quality or seeming less quality than the woman that they're with, that they start to be more attracted to that guy?

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It seems like women don't have ethics or don't have integrity as opposed to saying, hey, I appreciate and I'm happy for you too. Why is it that some women want to get in there and try to, quote unquote, steal the man or influence the man to stray?

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leaves the person he's with for you, is that woman then going to be confident that he wouldn't do it again?

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You talked about attraction and sorry to get you off track. You talked about attraction. What do you think is more important, sexual attraction or spiritual attraction for a woman?

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Wow, what would you say for any guy listening or watching if they wanted to attract the woman of their dreams or essentially any woman that they really desired, if they wanted to attract that, who would they need to become in order to set themselves up to attract an incredible, lifelong, loving partner who gave them a fulfilling, joyful life?

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What if there's a man who is extremely masculine but lacks confidence? What type of partner does he attract typically?

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that's kind of like the safe man, right? So the safe man is not always the right man is what I think I heard you say, right? Typically, but doesn't a woman want to feel safe in an environment with their man?

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But essentially, it sounds like that's a space where you don't have to fully open up and be vulnerable. It's a space where you probably know you're in control, where you're probably have more value to offer. This person is desiring you way more than you desire them.

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the person I've chosen really doesn't step into his confidence or his masculine energy. He'll do anything I want him to do at all times. He stops his dreams from my dreams, whatever it is. What is typically, the women you've worked with, what do they say about that? What do they feel about that? And what is their struggle? Is it they want to leave? Is it they just feel bad?

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They don't feel the connection anymore? What is it that they feel?

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There's drama and stress. Yeah. So, what I heard you say for a man to attract the you know,

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joyful loving partner that they really desire and have someone that they really are inspired by for you know a long term I'm hearing you say that that man needs to step into their self-esteem their confidence and their their masculinity yeah you gotta step into that leadership masculinity quality right yeah that essence if a woman really wants to attract the right healthy man someone that is

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safe in terms of they can trust, but where they have to fully, they have to feel a little vulnerable to really dive in and they really care about this man in a big way. What does a woman need to do in order to attract that ideal partner for themselves?

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I've heard you talk about a concept I want to share in a second. But I feel like there's a group of people we've been talking to, you've been talking to that are the people that have maybe don't have the opportunities they want, they don't have a life they want, they feel like people are holding them down. That's one group.

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Then there's another group of people, which I feel like is a majority of people that have a good life. It's okay, it's good, but they're not living a great life for themselves. Maybe they got a good job and they're pretty healthy, got a decent relationship, but there's something missing.

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I think if that resonates with anyone listening or watching, comment below or leave a like if you feel like, yeah, my life is good, but I feel like something's off. You have this great concept called creating a mental rock bottom to push yourself towards your goals.

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Can you share more about kind of some practical steps of creating your own mental rock bottom so that you can go to the next level in your life?

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Welcome to this special masterclass. We've brought some of the top experts in the world to help you unlock the power of your life through this specific theme today. It's going to be powerful, so let's go ahead and dive in. What do most people misunderstand about success in general? You're around the most successful people, you train them. What do people misunderstand about success?

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All of it. All of it. Wow. What was the three greatest lessons that Kobe taught you? We heard competing, accountability, and winning at all levels. For Michael, what about Kobe? The three big lessons he taught you.

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What is the mindset of winning? They both had that. Obviously, they both had a lot of things. But what is the mindset of winning? When someone adopts that mentality, what does that do for them? As opposed to the mindset of, well, whatever result I get is fine, or it's okay if I have this, and I'm okay with that.

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Yeah. The hardest thing is doing it over and over. It's not easy to win. Right. But it's easy to win and then never win again. I mean, it's so hard to do it over and over consistently. And then there's people that win at winning. They win at winning. Yes.

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So you put more pressure on yourself.

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Do you feel like people are going to be struggling with overcoming these fears more because of the internet and social media? Or how can they continue to navigate that fear of the tribe in person, not just online?

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I mean, since starting this, it's been over eight years, but the journey before then, it was, you know, decades to build myself, to prepare myself for this. And now I feel like I'm just getting started. Right, exactly.

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right and that's not absolutely yeah yeah what about the just the the anxiety of putting yourself out there whether it be going into a store and just interacting with people whether it be going giving a speech online putting up you know something human interaction in person and feeling embarrassed or rejected or made fun of yeah how do we learn to overcome that anxiety or stress about it

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Is it as simple as just you gotta practice it and just know that you're alive?

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I'm all about social, like, creating social challenges for yourself.

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Right, right. But do something consistently.

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Absolutely. This is something you've been studying for, I guess, decades now, which is just mastering confidence, body language, overcoming these challenges. What's been the biggest challenge for you in the last 10 years that you've had to overcome knowing the research and practicing these things and talking about these things yourself? what's been the challenge for you?

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Even though it was a popular, well-respected TED Talk.

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Were you able to... implement and integrate some of your own practices and teachings when those things happen to you? When you were getting, whether it be criticism or bullying or any of the stuff you were facing, were you able to actually integrate the body language for yourself?

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Should we frequently be in an expansive postural state when we're kind of nine to five-ish out in the world doing our activities?

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I think Ted Lasso was saying she goes to the bathroom and does that, right?

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I was like, oh, my God. Well, it's so cool that you, Brene Brown, and Esther Perel, who I've had both of them on as well, were all featured in there. And I'm just like, that's amazing.

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It's the obstacles. You know, Ryan Holiday says the obstacle is the way. Do you think that anyone can become a winner? Your book is about winning the unforgiving race to greatness. Do you think anyone can become a winner?

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And it's probably, you know, even if you were doing a meditative breathing technique, if you're closing your body off and breathing, you're still probably limiting yourself. So you can be breathing and trying to relax the nervous system, but you're closing your body off, it's hard to feel like more alive and confident and calm, I'm assuming, right?

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How long should we be in an expansive postural states for?

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Yeah, the tighter you are, the probably less likely that you're gonna perform relaxed. And in football training before games and in practices, they would always tell us to be loose, to move our body, to be flexible, to be expansive, but in a loose state of mind and a loose body, not like rigid or you can't catch the ball if you're like too tight.

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So it's how can you be expansive, confident, and relaxed at the same time. And practicing that in life with the power poses, I think is great. And Ted Lasso, she did it great. She was like a monster pose or something.

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She was great. She was great. Was there ever a time where you didn't implement this strategy and you realized, oh, I could have done better had I done this, but I just thought I'd had to figure it out?

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I don't- Isn't that interesting, like five or 10 people, I feel the same way.

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Final question is what's your definition of greatness?

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Why is it so hard for us to get started once we know, okay, now it's time to make the change, but it's still hard to actually get started in doing that. What holds us back from that starting step?

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Right. It's easy to procrastinate or kind of feel lazy, which is part of your process as well. It's easy to feel that when things are okay. And when things are like good, but they're not like, it's not a big enough pain for you to be like, I need the motive. Now I have motivation to make a change.

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Do we need a bigger pain or is it possible to create exponential change or transformation when things are okay or really good in your thought?

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For those who don't know, what does that mean for those who don't?

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Identity is something that is interesting to me. How important is the way we shape our own identity or view our identity in terms of where we are to where we will be. Like if we stay stuck in old identities, how do we shed identities? How do we create a new identity even though we've never actually lived it? Will that help us get there?

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Can you share more just about identity in general on how it hurts us or helps us?

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You're burning a thousand calories or you're getting whatever, like you're...

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So if belief supports you getting those results you want or making the transformation or the change you want, how would you suggest that we learn to believe in ourselves more from a scientific point of view?

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Like what's the data suggest on, okay, if you say these affirmations, if you look in the mirror and do this exercise, if you just smile at people and you'll create more reflection of joy, like what is the thing that you've seen in data that helps increase belief in oneself?

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Really? I think this is true, and I also love the examples of...

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some of the great athletes who've accomplished so much that were doubted over and over growing up and kind of have this chip on their shoulder, like no one believed in them and they said, I'm gonna go prove them wrong type of mentality, which I think can get you extremely far in terms of success and results, but never feeling this fulfillment inside.

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So you think surrounding yourself with the right people, the right environment of people, the right community, what should those people be like? What should their attitude, their energy, their communication style be like with you? If people were reflecting on their five to 10 people in their inner circle, what should they reflect on?

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They should have these qualities, they should say these things, or here's some red flags. If your best friend tells you you shouldn't do this, or your best friend says, eh, I don't think you look good doing it, whatever it is, what are those flags and what are those, I guess, positive signs?

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So he's good at instilling belief in other people.

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And actually, literally... How would you coach someone else?

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He more facilitated the experience for you to learn and create the answer within yourself, I guess, by helping others.

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What would you say are the top three or five things that a coach can do to instill belief in someone else that you witnessed from him or that you've also seen with your peer group?

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Positive feedback, social structure, supporting the team.

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I think you, yeah, you said he believed in you. He treated you like family, mentoring circles. Yeah.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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So how do we learn how to not let the doubt stay in us? How do we remove it? How do we turn doubt into fear and action towards greatness as opposed to staying in it?

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Is that the only way to get rid of doubt, you think, is by working, obsessing over something and proving something so you don't doubt?

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And here's what I'll say around that. I think that's beautifully said because most of my life until I was about 30, I was living to prove others wrong. Yes. And it was the second most powerful fuel and energy that I think humans have is like, I'm angry, I'm hurt, I'm frustrated. I'm going to go prove these people wrong about me.

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And it drove me to be obsessed around winning, around achieving, around accomplishing my goals. And I did, I accomplished them. But it left me feeling very unfulfilled, lonely, insecure, doubting myself even more. Why am I not feeling what I wanna feel? Why am I not still getting what I want inside because I was driven by the wrong things to prove other people doubting me wrong.

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And you hear that a lot by like, people will say, prove them wrong. But I think it's prove yourself right. Prove yourself right. And like you said, I love that you're saying this because you'll prove others wrong by proving yourself right. So you don't need to go prove them wrong. Just do your best.

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And you don't need to say, I told you so.

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So when doubt creeps in and we start to believe the doubt.

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go back into proving yourself right, go back into obsessing over the craft, doing it for the right reasons, not to prove others wrong, not to look good in front of a crowd or whatever, but doing it because you love the art of it, the expression of it, the creation of it, the vision of the thing you want to work on, not to validate something that's lacking, right?

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Speaking of one-on-one, how many times did you get to play one-on-one against MJ or Kobe? Often it never turned out well. Did you ever score a point against either of them?

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Or when you got the ball and he was just swatted away.

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Speak the poison out of your body. Get it out, talk about it. It becomes less scary. It doesn't have as much power over you if it's inside.

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But it is for a lot of people.

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A lot of women love being posted on Instagram. Why is that?

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What is the biggest risk of a woman wanting their man to post about them consistently on Instagram?

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If there's a woman coming to you asking for advice, saying, you know, I've been in a relationship for six months with this guy, and he hasn't posted about me yet on social media, on Instagram, and I really want him to, what should I say to get him to post about me? Or how can I do it to get him to post about me? What advice would you give that woman about this conversation?

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Yeah, and just because someone looks good on paper doesn't mean they're good for you.

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You said one of the things is poor conflict resolution is one of the things that causes people to break up. You added to that as well, Matthew. Why do you think people struggle with emotional regulation, not just in life, but even heightened more in relationships? And how can someone learn to regulate their emotions in a relationship where

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if they've been so used to reacting in fight or flight mode for so long? What do you think is a process they can start? I'll have you start and then we'll have you add to Asadio.

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Why do we select that person more?

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What is this quote? I'm sure you both have heard this. If they can't accept me at my worst, they don't deserve me at my best. What do you guys think about that saying in relationships?

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So I can't emotionally punch on them all day long and then say, well, you have to deal with my emotions.

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Yeah, you should be able to... I mean, you're worst as a child. I'm assuming you're going to scream and throw tantrums constantly. But then hopefully you learn how to develop your emotions and navigate your emotions so that you can be frustrated or have a breakdown, but not... trash on someone. Yeah, not punish someone. Not punish someone and say, you're doing this to me, right?

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It's like learning how to, you know, maybe you need to step away or maybe you're going to get loud for a moment, but you're not going to attack someone.

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Why is it so hard to leave a relationship when... after many years, when someone treats you poorly or they have dysregulation frequently, let's call it on a weekly basis or every other day, it seems like dysregulation or this type of emotional, I don't know if you wanna call it abuse or- Rollercoaster. Rollercoaster emotions, lack of respect. Why would you say, Matthew,

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Um, it's so hard to leave a relationship The relationship is failing. It's not healthy, but people tend to stay uh in your Work that you do with a lot of women Why do women stay so long? Maybe there's kids or not kids involved, but why do women stay? And how can they start to shift to make it healthier or get out of it in a healthy way?

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Why does it seem like it's easier as a girlfriend or a guy friend of a person in a struggling relationship? Why is it easy for them to see, man, this has been two years you've been in this pattern, this loop of up and down emotional rollercoaster that doesn't seem healthy, when it's so hard for the person in the relationship to, Thank you.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money This moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness. a lot of the things you've done in reality TV, right?

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Good laughter? Yes. Yeah. So it's having the community with flexibility. Yes. Where it's not like you have to do what I tell you to do or otherwise we're not going to love it.

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Sure. And what about the single people who have maybe struggled in previous relationships or who maybe took time for themselves, but now they want to attract and create a healthy relationship? How can they do the work for themselves so that they can really see when a person is in front of them that, oh, this is a healthy human being. Let me explore this and not just get into old similar patterns.

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Fundamental what? Attribution error. Fundamental attribution error.

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You don't care about me.

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That's beautiful. This is why me and Martha have one of the electronic robo cat cleaning litters. So no one has to clean the litter, yeah. It self-cleans, it's amazing.

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The cat robot, you guys know what I'm talking about. You guys got one? Yeah, those are good, right? No one's got to clean it, it's self-cleaning. They don't have that for dogs. You just gotta walk them still, you know, so. I wanna ask you a, we got a few minutes left with Esther, and I wanna ask you a personal question. I always like to do this with you.

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We'll see if you wanna receive it or not, but you've done a lot of work coaching others for a long time. And you've got amazing podcasts. Your podcast, Where Should We Begin, is incredible. I don't know if anyone's ever heard this. Where Should We Begin is incredible. You've got amazing books, which we have your books out in the bookstore.

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If people haven't gotten them yet, we've got your books here. You've got this game that'll help you. Where Should We Begin? Anyone have this yet? This Where Should We Begin? This is an amazing game of stories by Esther Perel where you can really connect with your partner on ideas and things like that. You've got an eroticism course as well.

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We'll have a link for you guys. We'll show you that in a second. For anyone that wants to be more sexually connected in that playful way, you'll be able to tap into that. But I'm curious, with all the research and all the work you've done to help others, what in the last five years have you received for yourself or had to overcome personally in intimacy, relationships?

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Again, you help and serve so many people, but sometimes as the coach, You don't get the opportunity to always self-reflect and get coached and work through things personally. I'm curious, is there anything in the last five years that you've seen a breakthrough personally with your life?

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You don't gingerly do the eroticism with asking for help.

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You're like, give me the help, let's go.

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Wow, that's beautiful. And what has been the breakthrough of the lesson for you two and a half years later now?

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Wow. That's a beautiful experience. I'm so glad you shared that. Thank you for sharing that.

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Yeah. Uh-oh.

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Part of me, I'm just trying to be present with the whole experience, part of me I've discovered That the part of me I've discovered that I knew it didn't exist.

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And I think it's been a journey of receiving it. Thank you. But I feel like For most of my life, and I don't know if anyone can relate, it was about, I felt loved by people, but I also, I think the traumas outweighed the memories of the love. So the traumas were bigger memories of fear, anxiety, and pain, and like, you know, Dan, you're safe, you're loved, you're free.

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And it's not like there was one person or people, it was just a series of events over time of all the different series of events. Sexual abuse is one of the first memories I have as a human being. And again, that kind of imprints you until you reprogram it, until you create new meaning with it and allow it to – and say, how can I use this for good, right? And how can I – this doesn't define me.

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It's a thing that happened, and I feel at peace about it. But as a child, you know, that was there. You know, my parents had their struggles. They just really – Struggled my dad was a difficult human being as much as I loved him He was very difficult and emotionally up and down so there was not emotional stability from him so therefore there was challenge with them and

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And my brother was in prison for four and a half years when I was eight years old. So there was just shame and trauma within the family dynamic that, oh, my older brother, who's my hero, is in prison. I love him. Is he a bad guy? Is he a good guy? I feel like he's a good guy. Why is he here?

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Every weekend we would go for hours in the visiting room and be around 20, 30 convicts and their families every week for four and a half years. And so there's traumas there. It's just the picking on, the bullying, the being dyslexic, not being able to read, unable to speak in front of an audience without being terrified. Just all the series of events, I focused more on the traumas than the love.

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There was a lot of love, but I couldn't feel them. And so learning how to regulate my nervous system and my heart and my body and learn how to breathe with all of it, the chaos of the world, relationship challenges from the past, and learning how to say, oh, I am safe no matter what's happening around me. Whether I'm going through a disagreement, it doesn't mean my life is at risk.

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Whether someone doesn't like me, it doesn't mean I have to give in to what they're requesting. You know? If I don't feel good right now, that's okay. I know I can transform it and feel good tomorrow. So learning the skills, learning the tools, and doing the deeper healing work has allowed me to feel loved.

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And really I think one of the biggest fears was I lacked the courage to end relationships so I would stay for way longer than I knew intuitively I shouldn't be in this. But I was afraid to be alone. I didn't know how to fully be alone and love myself alone. And I really learned how to do that to where I don't feel like I have to give in to anyone.

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I'm like, I love myself if I'm alone and I know that God will provide me in the right direction with what I need. It's not what I want, but I know I'll be provided that. And having that... Having that clarity and that inner peace of I'm going to be okay no matter what happens lets me be free to be me and feel loved. I can give myself love and I can receive it from others also.

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Even if I'm not getting it from others in a moment, if I need it, I know how to give it to me. in a, you know, in a spiritual way, not like a selfish, oh, I'm loving myself way. And so I think learning that process while healing and creating meaning from all these memories of the past, it just gives me a lot of peace and freedom. And I never had that until really the last four years, so.

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Yeah, of course, thank you. Thank you.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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Bachelorette, Bachelor, now your podcast is a top podcast, really sharing like modern dating wisdom from the mistakes you've made and the lessons you've learned and all this different stuff. If you could go back to, you know, 20-year-old you, when you were a star track athlete in college and high school and things like that, and you could give him three pieces of advice. That's a great question.

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I'm curious, what would you say are a few key things that anyone going through a horrible breakup can do to overcome that with more grace?

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on how to really become a great man and to attract a great partner for yourself, what would you say to him with that advice?

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What would you say to yourself when you were like eight months in deep, when you're like, I can't control my feelings and I'll never get over this and no one understands me? If you were coaching yourself, what would you say?

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What's the best relationship advice you've ever received?

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What's your thoughts on if people should be public with their relationship or they should be posting that they're getting in a relationship with this person and all the date nights they're doing and all the conversations they're having and should they be doing it on TV and doing it on social media? Do you think that creates a healthy long-term relationship or is that setting up a disaster?

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There are two big things happening at one time that I've never done before. I'm going on a book tour for my new book, Make Money Easy, and I'm doing a podcast tour at the same time. It is going to be big, and I'm going to seven cities in 10 days. Get your friends, get your family, bring everyone you know to these cities. I'm coming to Austin, Texas, New York, Boston, We're going to Nashville.

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Or you tell you to work harder or whatever it might be.

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Oh, yeah. You tell shame and guilt.

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On a scale of 1 to 10, in terms of a parent-child relationship that you had, or even marriage relationship, 10 being the ultimate level of control, wanting to control either your kids or your partner, where were you on that scale?

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Is it like not accepting your kids to be themselves, or they want to do something and you say, no, you can't do that, or here's what you need to do, or how does that look?

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Because you've got to discipline kids, too.

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They haven't been taught it either.

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But if someone is treating you poorly or disrespecting you or has a lack of manners and just decency in life, not saying they're stealing 100 grand from you, not saying they're cheating on you.

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It is. Other things that are like, that doesn't feel good. Yeah. How do you let them, but then also create a boundary with them or communicate to them, hey, this doesn't work for me anymore. I'm going to let you do this, but also this doesn't work in this relationship for me. Correct. How can we do that in a way- You just explained it.

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That is not angry and mean towards them or reacting emotionally. You're just creating a healthy, conscious communication.

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that sounds like part two where you're letting me you're taking your power back and you're saying now i want to communicate how you can treat me yes like these behaviors don't work right if you want to do that i'm going to let you do it but not with me bingo right see here's the thing who is the power in a narcissistic relationship i guess the narcissist if the other person's allowing it to happen

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And there's a moment of like some goodness or something happening.

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You want that to happen all the time.

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Well, I once heard someone say that if you're not changing it, you're choosing it. If you're not changing the situation or changing your relationship within the situation or changing your environment, you're choosing that environment, you're choosing that relationship, you're choosing that job, whatever it might be.

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And you can speak up and you can communicate, hey, this is something that I would like to create within this relationship, within this career, within this job. AND I'M NOT HAPPY WITH MY CURRENT SITUATION OR THIS IS WHAT'S WORKING FOR ME BUT THIS ISN'T WORKING FOR ME, HOW CAN WE EVOLVE THIS RELATIONSHIP? SO I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS.

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DON'T JUST SAY SCREW THIS PERSON AND I'M GONE. communicating with courage, with consciousness of like, here's what I do appreciate about you. Here's all the good that is happening. And here's some things that I would like to improve on. Can we improve in this situation, in my relationship or my career or whatever it might be, our friendship? If not, okay, it's information.

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Maybe I'll stay as invested with you. Maybe I won't. Correct. Maybe I'll stay in this job. Maybe I'll look for a new job and try to find some other situation. But if you're not changing it, you're choosing it. Yes. Yes. And when you're choosing it, you've got to accept it. If you don't accept it, you've got to start having a conscious conversation to change.

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Clean. Organized. No, I know, because this is my bathroom. I'm clean, you're organized. And when Martha puts something on, I'm like, you have a whole other separate counter. We're not sharing a counter. We have two sinks for a reason. And yours is three times the size of mine for a reason. You don't have to put your brush on my side. I like it clean.

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What if there's an example of like, okay, someone in your company steals $100,000 from you or takes something from you or does something that you're like, do I just let it go?

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Yeah, if you scream at someone or scold them or shame them, you're not going to get a good response. Correct. But if you sit down consciously when things are calm, not in that moment, but just say, hey, in a loving way, I love you. I appreciate you. I appreciate all the good that you do for us and our relationship. We have a beautiful home. We have three amazing children.

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Yeah, exactly. And there's just one thing that I would love to create an agreement with.

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Can we create this agreement together?

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And what support would you need in order for us to have this agreement work?

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Do I just let them take whatever they want? Do I just let them crap all over me all day long?

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Because if he sits you down and says, this really matters to me. Cardboard boxes. But it's more about feeling disrespected.

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Or they say they will, but then they don't.

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But also people could say, well, he could also just look at it and say, don't take it personally and just, who cares? Accept that there you are. She's not going to do the boxes and just let it go. It doesn't matter.

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Yeah, of course. You get a little drip of dopamine every once in a while. You're like, oh, I wish I could get that more frequently.

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What is that like psychologically when you're like, okay, I just ate too much or I just want to look skinnier and need to lose weight, but I'm numbing myself by eating because I am protecting myself. I feel ashamed of past or I feel whatever. I'm anxious, so I'm numbing myself by eating. But now I feel shameful and guilty that I ate, so I need to purge it.

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Really? But you were looked good on the outside.

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But you're good at hiding it, though, right? You're going to be like, very good. It's noon the next day. I'm put together. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fine. I'm happy. Yes.

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So you're in your mid twenties, you have, I guess, you know, a darkness that continues for months or years until there's a moment where you're like, okay, there's two roads I can take. I've had a few of those moments in my life. So I know that feeling of having to make a decision. And, you know, I grew up when I was eight, my brother went to prison.

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So every weekend for four and a half years, we would go as a family to visit, you know, during visiting hours. And I saw my life starting to go down that as well. When I was 13, I had to make a decision. And I remember saying, do I want to end up in prison? You know, because if I keep doing these things, which were not massive at the time, but will build. It builds. It'll build. And.

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you're going to keep getting in trouble and bad things are going to happen. Bad things are going to happen. And do I want to live that life and deal with that pain and shame? And I just saw what that will, you know, and I saw all the other convicts in the, and I got to know them and the traumas and the pain that they caused their families from bad decisions.

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And it was just like, do I want that or not? And I, and so you had this in your mid twenties, um,

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Well, it doesn't feel safe to be in a safe space because you're not familiar with it. Don't even know what that... So harmony doesn't feel safe.

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Because you're like, wait.

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Something's about to happen.

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You're always looking for it because you're so used to it. It's familiar. So when safe isn't safe and you don't know how to feel calm... In harmony, you're always looking to recreate chaos, whether it be in a relationship or whether it be in your own life or addictions or whatever it might be.

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What is the first thought that comes to you on a daily basis when you wake up or on a typical day? Where does that dark thought go to?

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So when you started, you know, kind of waking up from doing destructive things into creating a more healthy lifestyle for yourself 15, 17 years ago. Yeah. And you went down that journey and you started these healthy practices. You said, okay, I'm going to reach out for support. I'm going to find a therapist, even though I'm still lying to my therapist.

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I'm doing the steps, though, and I'm, like, in the work. And then what else did you start doing to develop a healthy practice for yourself? Yes. Were you still nightclubs and, you know, modeling and doing these things that weren't supporting you? Or were you removing yourself as well from environments?

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Did you feel like you were getting results? When you looked in the mirror, were you like, oh, this is working though? Or were you like, I'm still not getting the results I want?

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How old are you now? Roughly.

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So you started meditating.

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Wow. How much on a scale of one to 10 before this, What was your self-love scale? Ten being like you really loved yourself from an authentic, conscious place. One being you hated yourself. Like where were you on that scale?

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You were out of alignment with yourself.

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The thing that I'm hearing you say, which I really love is that when you started to, it sounds like your seven year old self was screaming at you during your adult life, when you were doing things out of alignment with what she wanted, right? When you weren't protecting her, when you weren't showing up for her, she was screaming at you in different ways. She was like,

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You know, the acne was coming out. You're, you know, going, you're going against your body by by binge eating or binge drinking or, you know, late nights, all these different things. And she didn't feel safe with you as an adult trying to take care of her because you weren't taking care of her. And so she felt unsafe. Right. And when and when you treat your inner child poorly as an adult,

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bad things happen in your life. Or you don't feel good, right? And you're not attracting abundance. You're not setting yourself up to be able to manifest your vision. You're not bringing the right relationships in your life necessarily. And things feel off. You feel out of alignment because you're not taking care of the inner being inside of you that needs cared for.

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And what it sounds like, I'm hearing you say, is when you said, okay, these two paths I can take, continued destruction or, you know, reconnecting to self and doing better choices. That's when when you started and you started to really be present with yourself and take time to listen to the still small voice, which is God, I think, and also your inner child.

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It's almost like the voices of both combining and saying, what does the inner child need and what is God directing me to do?

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And when you are able to meditate for a minute or 20 minutes a day, or however long you do on a daily basis, you can hear the decisions you need to take today. And you can be guided on what you need to do in the next step. Even though you don't know what's to come, or you feel, I'm uncertain, or what's the future going to bring?

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when you can listen to yourself and where you're guided, you can take action on what is needed today. And it sounds like you've been doing that for now 10, 15 years. And by doing so and continuing to be in alignment with your intuition, by serving your inner child and by serving the higher power for yourself, abundance and manifestation becomes easy, easier.

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And you just said, like, I didn't even have 10,000 followers. I just started taking these actions and doing what felt right to me and being consistent for 10, 15 years. And because of that consistent action, integrated, authentic actions, it's like manifesting everything. I'm on the cover of these magazines and this is growing and audiences and wow, these things are just happening for me. Right.

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But if you were going down destructive paths, this wouldn't be happening.

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You're like my team when they're watching.

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What do you mean? Like you're not taking on new projects? You're not like launching new stuff or what?

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Yeah, and trusting the timing of things.

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You know, I tell my fiance, Martha. I love her. She's always like, I wish we would have met like 10 years ago. Like we would have had such a life. Like our life would have been so much better and we wouldn't have been through so much pain and relationship breakups and stuff like that. And I'm like, I wouldn't have looked at you the same way 10 years ago because I wasn't ready for you.

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I wasn't ready to be in a loving, peaceful relationship. Like I wasn't ready. I would have been like, oh, you're like an attractive, like beautiful girl who's really talented, but you don't have enough wounds for me. You know, it's like, you're not a something, you're not a project I need to like help out or something, right? And I wasn't attracted to that. I wasn't attracted to peace.

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So I would have created, you know, I would have hurt you probably. You know, I'd have probably done something wrong or I'd have been like, you know, whatever. I just wouldn't have been ready.

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And I needed to go through my own healing journey to feel ready for peace because I didn't have peace inside of me still. And so I needed to be peace before I could have peace in my environment. And she's like, oh, that makes sense. But timing is everything.

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And, you know, until sometimes we have breakdowns, unfortunately, like you had a big breakdown when you're in your mid-20s, then you were ready for a breakthrough, right? And unfortunately, it wasn't sooner. You know, we all wish it was like we had peace and less pain and sadness and things we did poorly sooner. But time is everything when you can trust in a higher power. So do you believe in God?

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Yeah. And – Where was your life when you weren't believing in a higher power versus where you do now?

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You're in a room and they're, like, fitting, like, the jeans and the shirts to you and all that stuff.

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So you don't have to, like, be on for photography to, like, be in the world stage. It's actually... Not like runway modeling. You're just like, I get to hang out and the designers are just, like, fitting to me.

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And I'm getting good money.

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For moms or women who want to be moms, but also want to have their careers or have a dream that they want to pursue their art or their music or whatever it might be, what do you say to them before they become a mom? It's got to be one of the hardest things, to be a mom full time and then have the energy and the thought capacity to create beyond being a mom.

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And just life experience in general.

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But how do you have the energy and the capacity to create? You might have ideas and it might flow when you have energy and time, but when you're a full-time mom and even if your kids are in school or you have daycare or nanny support every now and then, or babysitters for a few hours a day, you're still thinking about your kids all day long.

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Your body's still responding to healing after the first few years. You're still... need energy you're well you're up all night because your child what's the better they sleep with you and they're kicking you all night whatever it is it's beautiful but it's also challenging yeah like how do you have energy during the day to be a full-time mom a full-time creator and and

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bringing the money to support the family.

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But for women that just want to generate money, they want to make money also as well as being moms.

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But this is a season of life.

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What do you think is the difference between putting all the weight and pressure on you to do a good job and perform versus allowing God in your life to deliver?

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When did you start this practice of giving it up to God?

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Did you have a relationship to God before then?

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What is the number one thing you hear from everyone in the world that only you have a unique perspective on?

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Yeah, I do. I didn't always, though. I mean, growing up, I felt very insecure. Me too. Very alone.

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I used to go to the principal's office all the time in elementary school and just say, I wish I were dead. I wish I were dead over and over again because I felt like no one cared. Obviously, my parents were there for me.

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Obviously, like, you know, my siblings. But it's just, you know, I just felt alone. And it didn't probably matter how much someone loved me. I didn't know how to receive the love probably also. Exactly. And so for years, it wasn't until maybe 10, 11 years ago when I started my healing journey where I felt a deeper sense of love for self and love for God.

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you for sharing that of course yeah but it's i know that it's challenging i know the feeling and so everything for me was driving you know i can relate to you because i was driven for so long to succeed to feel loved and accepted exactly but then it never felt like enough it never felt like oh i'm not getting what i truly want so let me go get more right and keep accomplishing exactly and things started to shift for me 10 years ago where i said um

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I want to create my life based on a vision that I have to serve people. Yes. And... If I have a dream to write a book or something else and I can still go for goals, but it needs to be in the service of others.

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So when you're on your knees screaming mercy at 2 a.m. in the back of your house.

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I'm curious, like, did you feel a connection to God then?

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Was it like the first time you really felt a connection? And if so, what did you hear or experience or notice?

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Like the words are coming to you.

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But you played it live or you recorded it live?

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I don't know if you like recorded on your iPhone real quick.

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Do you think we have to suffer to create something great?

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Sometimes you hear people saying they create like a love song out of just like, yeah, I love beauty.

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The Beatles seem to create stuff.

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That moment created a song though.

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Interesting. Wow. Okay. So since that happened, you feel like you've had a different relationship to God?

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And what is that relationship now, two years later?

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So you feel like you have a direct channel to God. You don't have to go to someone else.

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Well, she's asked me to write one.

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I didn't turn it down. I said, yes, I'll do it.

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I saw yours. I saw the newsletter that she sent out with yours. Really powerful.

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Right, exactly. You shared it, you put it out there.

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I have it in my inbox for me to do. I've just been traveling.

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I really think this is gonna help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you, if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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Very cool. So this was kind of an awakening with your son and your daughter.

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When you were able to have this kind of awakening a couple years ago, how much of these things were you doing that were holding you back?

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Why do you think you had anxiety then? Or why do you think anxiety was showing up for you in your life?

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Welcome to this special masterclass. We've brought some of the top experts in the world to help you unlock the power of your life through this specific theme today. It's going to be powerful. So let's go ahead and dive in. If you set your goal correctly, how do you know how to set your goal the right way in order to create a quantum leap in your life?

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It's habitual thinking.

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They're complaining.

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So we've got to learn how to cut out the negative thinking versus adding more positive thinking. Because you can keep adding positive thinking, but if you've got dirty water in the water, it's still going to be dirty. So you've got to remove the dirty, the challenging thoughts to have more pure energy, cleaner energy that can make you more effective, more efficient. Beautiful, yeah.

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I truly get so clear on my goals. I get very clear on what I want to attract. And I think about it. I write it down. I'll create a certificate of achievement. I'll hang it on my wall. I'll put it on my phone and say, this happened. I sign it. I put the date of when it's going to happen. And I really reverse engineer and say, what are the actions to attract this goal?

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What are the actions to attract this goal? Who do I get to become? You know, it starts from the way of being. It starts from your energy and your intention first. Then that energy goes into the action. So if you have a negative energy, but you're taking action every day, you won't attract the things you want and be fulfilled.

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Maybe you'll attract some certain things, but you'll still feel this negative lack of fulfillment because it wasn't coming from a place of joy, of gratitude, of appreciation. of growth, of possibilities, of creativity, of service. And that's when you really shift from that intention and that energy from those places as opposed to, I'm doing this to prove others wrong.

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I'm doing this to show my parents that I could do this. I'm doing this to look good. I'm doing this because I wanna have all these awards and show it off. When you come from that place, you can accomplish what you want, but at the end of the day, are you truly gonna be fulfilled?

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And that's something that we've all gotta learn the hard way if we're not willing to come from joy, passion, gratitude, and service. Another question someone might ask is how have you used the law of attraction when it comes to your friendships, business, relationships? partnerships and other relationships.

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At this stage of my life, I've learned a lot about relationships and I have a long way to go to learn more about relationships. But I really think about in friendships. Does this person think a similar way as me? Does this person on a similar path of service? Does this person have a good heart? Do I have fun with this person? Can we have cool activities together that we share and enjoy?

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And I think about that, you know, Is there a natural flow to our friendship? Is there a give and take that we both have? Or am I the only one that gives and they take? I think about these things and I try to create alignment with friends. Okay, cool, we're on a similar journey.

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Maybe they're in a completely different industry or career path, but if we have a similar philosophy and way of being and energy, I like to be around positive people. So I attract friends from that same place of positivity and gratitude.

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In business partnerships, I think about who are the partners who will compliment me, not similar to me, but who would compliment me, who have other skills and assets that I don't have. And I think about what am I really talented at? How can I be a driver of this business and the skills that I have? And how can I find a compliment partner who can support the things that I'm not good at?

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I think about that there in relationships. I really think about a lot when it comes to more intimate relationships. And for me, it starts with the foundation. of four key things. Spiritual connection, mental connection, emotional connection, and then for me also the sexual connection. But the foundation on the first three first.

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If you can build from that place and have a similar mindset, similar values, similar vision, that's what I really look for in more intimate relationships as well. Do we have those four foundational points in common? Are we aligned on these things? Do we have our values aligned, our vision aligned for what we want to create in a relationship? For me, that's a big part of it.

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So creating from that space and attracting from that space. And that means being very courageous with your words, very courageous in your communication and saying, this is exactly what I'm about. This is what I'm looking to create. This is where I'm going. This is my future, what I see for myself right now. Here's my values. Speaking from a place of integrity, speaking from a place of courage,

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to almost say can this person hang can this person keep up with me because this is what i believe not hiding those things but putting yourself out there you'll either attract or you'll repel and it's better to repel quickly than keep some things hidden for a year or two and realize oh we don't align so be courageous with your words be courageous with your your actions and your feelings towards that

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Another question, how did you visualize the School of Greatness book being at the front of the table in bookstores? So I remember for years, Back in 2007, I read a book called The 4-Hour Workweek. And I remember at the end of this book, and for most people that listen or watch the show, you know it's hard for me to finish books.

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I talk about this all the time, you know, growing up being dyslexic, having a second grade reading level when I went into the eighth grade and got tested there. And so it's a lot for me to want to finish a book. I skim a lot. I research and I go through the books, but it's a lot for me to start from word one to the last word and read every word without just skimming it.

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In 2007, I read a book called The 4-Hour Workweek. And I remember at the end, I remember shutting the book and saying, wow, this is inspiring. It opened up something new for me that I never knew was possible. This kind of like online world that I started going down the rabbit hole and really researching more about it and reading blogs and articles and trying things from onward after that.

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This is the end of 2007, Christmas time. And I remember closing the book and saying, in one day, I'm going to meet Tim Ferriss, the author of this book, And I'm going to connect with him. We're going to be friends. I'm going to do business with him. And also, whoever the agent is for this book, one day I'm going to write a book that's going to be a New York Times bestseller.

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And this agent for Tim is going to be my agent as well. And I remember a few years later, I ended up meeting Tim. I ended up meeting Tim's agent. A few years after that, I kept creating. I kept showing up. I kept building myself, my business, my brand that eventually

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His agent was my agent, and I remember saying to him, I want to write a New York Times bestselling book that does something similar to the book that I read years ago, where it unlocks possibilities in other people's life. It helps them create something new. It helps them see something different they never saw, and they can take action from that place, from a new possibility.

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And I did this on a consistent basis. And when the book came out, the book was front and center in all Barnes and Nobles right when you walked in. It was a New York Times bestseller. And it closed the loop for me visualizing this, I think it was seven or eight years prior where I had this dream.

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of writing a New York Times bestseller, of doing stuff with Tim Ferriss, of his agent being my agent, and changing millions of lives. So the idea was planted, the seed was planted then, when I had nothing. When I had a cast on my arm, I just had a surgery, I was sleeping on my sister's couch, I had nothing.

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There was no evidence, there was no proof, there was no results that would show that I would write a New York Times bestselling book. There was nothing. There was no evidence that I had the skills. There was no evidence that I had the resources, the talent, the time to get his agent as my agent, to write a great book, to be able to market a book. I had no audience. I had no following.

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But the seed was planted at that moment. And I wrote it down and I visualized it often. And I said, who do I need to become? What do I need to create? What do I need to overcome? What do I need to let go of in order to take the right actions to attract this dream?

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and if you haven't got the book yet make sure to check out the book school of greatness and get it anywhere you can go online go on amazon go to bookstores check out the book and i hope this gives you some principles some ideas some strategies to help you attract more with the law of attraction from yourself we talk about really the eight key principles that we've dissected from all the different interviews in the school of greatness podcast from all the greatest minds in the world

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It's dissected into eight key principles here in the School of Greatness. So if you want to create more abundance in your life, make sure you check out this book, buy a copy, get one for your friends, and devour it, go through it. Another question, how do you visualize the School of Greatness becoming a TV show? This is interesting. This must have been seven or eight years ago as well.

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I was traveling and doing more public speaking at that time, kind of getting started in my public speaking career. And I would go to all these different hotels around the country. And I remember when you turn on the TV in a hotel, it usually starts at channel one and you see kind of the first eight to 12 channels right away when you scroll through the TV guide. And I remember seeing,

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Yeah. So it's almost like 10X is just as easy or just as challenging as 2X. And it's about how you frame it and about going after it the right way. It's what it sounds like. They're both going to be challenging. So you might as well go for the bigger leap than the one that's like just a little bit more uncomfortable.

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PBS is usually in the top 10 channels. PBS channel. And I would always see this talk show. This talk show with inspiring people. The host and inspiring people. And I was like, huh. And I'd watch this talk show and it would be back-to-back hours. Pretty much every major city I went to in the middle of the day, I'd see these back-to-back hours for this talk show on PBS, public television.

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And I said, man, my show had just gotten started at that point, The School of Greatness. And I was like... I feel like I could do this. I mean, I'm getting similar type of guests. Like the conversations are just as powerful. Like, huh, why couldn't I be on PBS? Why can't we create this? We already have the content. And I remember the seed was planted then.

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I saw it and I said, okay, this is something I want to create. I have no clue how to do it, But what are the steps that are gonna get me there? What do I need to do? Who do I need to become? What do I need to let go of? What insecurities? What do I need to build in order to attract this? In order to say, PBS is gonna say yes when we come to them, or they're gonna approach me.

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And seven, eight years later, We are now on public television, on PBS, around the country. And it was a process. It was a journey. It took time. It didn't happen overnight. Some things happen quickly when you start to apply the Law of Attraction. The bigger goals and dreams, sometimes it happens quickly, but sometimes it takes years. It really all depends on where you're at in your life.

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But it happened, and now we're there. And it's a beautiful experience to see, again, closing the loop from a seed that was planted six, seven, eight years ago is now happening, is now manifested, is now blossoming. And sometimes when we plant the seed, it doesn't grow overnight into this giant oak tree. It takes time to fertilize and build and water.

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And that's you developing new skills, overcoming challenges, and becoming a better version of yourself. So if you want to check it out, make sure to go to lewishouse.com slash watch, and I'll show you where you can go on your local TV station to check out the show on public television and PBS all around the country as well. We'll have that linked up in the description below also.

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I want to talk about daily habits to make the law of attraction really stick. Now, we all have busy lives, like I said, and it's not easy to break old habits or create new habits when we have responsibilities of busy life and you feel overwhelmed or stressed already. But there are some daily habits that you can really introduce to start utilizing the law of attraction.

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And step one is to visualize what you want in your life to look like the first thing in the morning. What do you want your day to look like? How do you want to feel throughout this day?

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Starting with this and taking it one day at a time will eventually begin to compound, and you'll have weeks where you're becoming the type of person you really want to become, and you'll see it to manifest over time. Step two is to write down your goals for the day.

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Now this is something that I do for my dreams in the future, that is big dreams and goals, but also what do I want to accomplish today? And doing both of those, the kind of longer, bigger dreams, but also what's the daily goal? when you do that and once you see it in your mind and put it in paper so you can remember it, it helps you revisit it to track your progress when you do this process.

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So really focus on writing down your goals daily and also thinking about what are my long-term goals and dreams? What am I doing to show for them daily? Step three is to speak it out loud. Like we mentioned earlier, what if you said to yourself, I am enough. I am worthy of love. I'm going to serve my community today with my business or with my talents or my gifts.

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And saying these things out loud to yourself is like training your brain to actually believe it. And then when you say it and you follow through on the actions you commit to that you write down, you start to believe it even more. And step four is to reflect at the end of the day on how your day went.

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Thinking about your visualization in the morning, writing down your goals and the spoken affirmations. Tracking your progress to see how your life is changing in real time. And you can really start to see these things after a week. You implement this consistently for a week, you start to say, huh, I feel a little bit different.

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I got a little different result today from my friends and my family and relationships. You start to see these things happening pretty quickly. And when you do this and you track the progress, it will hold you accountable and it'll be amazing to look back on in a month from now. One of the mistakes I see most often is not getting clear about what you truly want.

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Now, this is tough because in this time during our life, there's a lot of distractions, a lot of opportunities, a lot of things that people want to do at once. But if you're chasing so many things at once, you'll never really create and catch the one thing you want to get.

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People hear about manifesting and start to say things like, well, I want more money or I want to become the most physically fit version of myself. And then they leave it at that. And if you think or speak in those general terms, then not much happens when you do that. Here's the key.

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The more specific you are, the more likely the actions you take and the energy you put out will help you achieve that goal. It's all about the specifics of this. Remember when I said, when I closed the book up and I said, I am going to meet Tim Ferriss one day. His agent is going to be my agent. I'm going to write a New York Times bestseller.

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It's going to change millions of lives around the world. I was very specific about my vision, about my goals, about manifesting what I wanted to create. And this happened. This happened specifically. I've done that in many different areas of my life. And if you aren't clear, you'll continue to go down multiple distraction paths instead of one focused one.

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You'll start to see opportunity after opportunity, and you'll put all your energy spread out as opposed to focused on growing in one area to start. So you need to really sit down and really think about this and get as clear as possible. That's why it's so important to write down your goals and be specific. Write down the dates by when. When do you want to manifest this by?

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When do you want to create this by? One of the biggest mistakes people make after getting super clear on their dreams is not taking any action at all. So I'm declaring I'm going to go create this goal. It's going to happen. And then

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nothing happens because you can't just visualize and write down your goals and say your affirmations and look in the mirror and do this and expect all your dreams to come true you cannot do this i see this all the time with people sharing their big goals on social media i'm going to lose 100 pounds by this date i'm going to create this much of my business and they start to speak it they write it down they got their vision board and you see it all over social media and then they never see them share any actions after the first week they take action then it gets hard

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They usually don't have the other things in place, the structure, the accountability, the coaching, the support, all the things you need to really support you in consistent action, the discipline of consistent action over time. And those are the things that will support you with your goals. Now, I don't want this for you. I don't want you to just have these dreams and then them not be manifested.

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The practices we've spoken about help you get clear. So I don't want you to just think about this and visualize this and not get the results you want and be a magnet of attraction. The practices we've spoken about help you get clear and in the right mindset. But you have to be willing to take action for anything to actually happen. And you have to do this consistently.

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They've got to be hungry. They've got to be- You know, anxious about something changing, they're going to want to change. They do. Because some people know they want something more, but they don't know exactly what it is.

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When I think about the results we've created in the School of Greatness, the consistency is something that I tell people. They say, Lewis, what's the secret to the success of the School of Greatness and how you've got our 400 million downloads, how it's one of the biggest podcasts in the world, one of the fastest growing YouTube channels. Now it's on PBS and public television.

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You've got a New York Times bestselling book. You sell at your conferences. You've got all these opportunities. What's the secret? I literally sound like so boring. when I say, you know, I just show up every day. I show up consistently every day. And I've been doing it for over eight and a half years consistently.

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And before that, I was doing it for 20 years, developing myself as an athlete, learning about goal setting, learning about confidence, teamwork, skill sets, all that stuff. But the key has been showing up consistently daily for eight and a half years. That's what I do.

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The consistency of it is the magnet, is what attracts people, is what creates respect, what creates trust, what creates authority, all these things in the space that you're in. So you want to think about the action that goes in with this. What do you do when you accomplish a big goal? Do you celebrate?

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Do you take time to actually acknowledge yourself for the hard work you've put in and the journey? Or are you right on to the next thing?

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Do you think it's important to celebrate, though, that for that day or that, you know, a couple of days of like the actual hard work you've put in? Or do you think it's not worth the celebration?

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And so they're in the uncertainty of, well, I'm not sure which direction I should go in. And here's another problem I see is people have too many passions. I've got this idea and this idea and this idea. Which one do I choose? And when someone has 10 different passions or different roads that they could go down, how do they know which one they should go down?

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It's kind of like when I was doing the marathon, I literally wasn't really thinking about the finish. I was more just like, I'm going to enjoy and smile every mile. That was my motto. I'm going to smile every mile. When I feel in pain, smile. Just be grateful to be out here. I never thought I'd do a marathon, so now I'm doing it. It's like, this is cool.

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And for me, that's what worked in that process. And I think it's meaningful for a lot of people because when I was younger, I used to be driven to accomplish these big goals, specifically in sports. And when I would accomplish them, I'd be very let down and upset because I was so fixated on the end result that I was doing the journey with a lot of, let's say, drive from anger, not drive from joy.

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I was driven to accomplish out of resentment or proving people wrong or frustration or not feeling good enough, as opposed to this is something I truly love. And when I started to shift, probably in my early 30, when I hit 30, I was like, I'm gonna do everything because I love it, not because I'm trying to do it to prove people wrong. And that became a different feeling inside.

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It was kind of like coming from my heart as opposed to from my ego of why I was doing something. And it's been a lot more enjoyable day-to-day process as opposed to, I just need to accomplish this thing financially or this goal, and then I'll be happier. But then...

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Do you remember what was going through your mind? I mean, I felt really... Did you feel relieved? I felt proud of myself, to be honest, because I had done 29.029, which was probably the hardest thing I'd ever done in terms of endurance. It was like 35 hours or whatever, right? I can't remember how long. 35 hours. You did it in Vermont, right? In Vermont. And we slept maybe four hours or something.

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But for me, I'd never pushed myself... Endurance-wise, that hard. I'd done three days in football camp for two weeks. I've been in extreme pain. I've lifted hard. I've ran hard, sprinted hard. I was a decathlete, so I did two days of decathlon in college. That was extremely demanding with just strength and power and speed and agility and all these things.

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But 35 hours of just walking straight up a mountain was exhausting for me, mentally and emotionally and physically. Yeah. And I just wasn't really prepared for it the first time. So when I accomplished, it was kind of the same feeling. Like when I completed that, I was like, I just didn't think my body could do something like that. So I was very proud of the completion.

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But when I did the marathon, I was proud of the completion, but I was proud of the way I enjoyed the process of it too. And I was like, and I had fun. Yeah, I was in pain. And yeah, this happened. And yeah, I took it slow. And I didn't go as fast as I wanted to. And but I enjoyed being a part of the marathon experience.

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And so I was really proud, I was with Matt, and he'd run a few before, so this was my first one, so I gave him a hug, and I was just like, okay, I don't know if I wanna do this again, but I'm proud of you. But then the next couple days, like literally the next few days, I was like, man, That was a lot of fun. I didn't look at it as this painful thing, even though it was challenging.

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I was just like, man, it was really fun. I'd never seen LA like that. On foot. Yeah, I'd never been to these neighborhoods. I never drove this far in LA. It just kind of stayed in my pocket. And I was like, huh. And then a friend of ours who's on our team, I think he said he's done like five or six New York marathons. And he goes, it's so much fun because it's like a party every mile.

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Yeah, yeah. It's great. Yeah. I've never done that. That could be a cool adventure. So I was like, oh, let's sign up for it. And I never thought I would do that. I never thought I would do more than one. I was like one and done. One and done. And who knows if I'll do more or not.

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I think... You expressing how you were kind of had this hollow feeling, this empty feeling. You were making money at 30, had the job and all these different things. But you didn't have the mission. There wasn't meaning. There's no meaning. Inside of it. Yeah. And with the meaning now, it's like creating these adventures. There's meaning behind it. And there's a mission behind it.

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And you're not looking to complete it. You're looking to enjoy every moment of it. And I think that's really cool. And if people could take this away from this conversation with whatever they're doing, they could just have much more of a rich life in general is what I'm hearing.

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How important is mastering your body and your health in terms of achieving any other goal in your life?

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All right. Final couple questions. First one is what are you most grateful for in your life recently?

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Thank you. You belong in the Midwest. I'm from there, man. That's why.

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You're not reading them.

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I love you, man. Appreciate it. Okay. This is the, uh, the three truths question. I didn't prepare for this one either. I don't even need to queue this up.

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can figure out which direction we want to go in to make a quantum leap. It's hard to make a decision of which direction to go from some people where other people just know, this is the thing I love. I'm excited about this. I have some skills or talent around this idea or this thing, and I'm going to go all in on it.

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I like it. Okay. Before we close, I want to acknowledge you for a moment, Steve. I want to acknowledge you for your incredible realness and your ability to visualize any dream and spend years going after it and make it come true. I also want to acknowledge you for your huge heart. You're a big guy, but you've got an even bigger heart. And you give more than you give yourself credit for.

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You give constantly to your friends, to people you don't even know. You're constantly giving to your following, showing up consistently every day in such a loving, huge way. And you do something that... You say that you make things so easy and so simple, but for a lot of people, it's almost impossible. And that is being positive every single moment.

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I don't know if I've ever seen you in a negative state, like Mike said. And that's a gift that you have to inspire positivity in other people. Like you said, it's the thing that most people don't do. It's the thing we need the most. And you are leading the world with positivity. So I want to acknowledge you for your incredible inspiration. It's my favorite compliment ever, man.

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But once you can figure out the path you're going and the direction you're going to take, how do you know it's time to take a quantum leap in that path? Versus, all right, I got to figure out my bearings and figure out where I'm heading in this direction and just kind of create some goals and get it going.

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You're an incredible example. You lead by example constantly. You may not... You know, you say you may not be the smartest guy in the world, but you lead by example of your actions with your integrity, with your hard work, and those are a couple qualities that you can't fake. And, you know, I'll always have you on my team, man. I appreciate you, and I acknowledge you for your gifts.

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Thank you, man. I appreciate that. You've already said the definition of greatness. So I want to ask you one final question, but before we do, where can we follow and connect with the legendary Steve Weatherford's?

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Of course, man. Of course. And you also have a book coming out, right? I do. And it's called Armageddon. Is that right? It is. So if you guys want to learn how to get in shape like this guy, like Superman over here, you're coming out with your first e-book on how to get bigger arms, essentially.

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But how do I know when my time is ready for a unconventional growth spurt, for a leap so big and grand that other people think I'm crazy and laugh at me when I talk about it?

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Final question. Let's do this. Since I already asked you what's the definition of greatness, let's do what's the question that you want to ask everyone listening to answer?

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What's the question you want them to answer over on Twitter with both of us? What's the call to action you want them to do in their own lives to get better?

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you wanna make it easier, you wanna make it flow, you wanna feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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You talk about seeking failure in one of the chapters of U Squared and in another chapter about suspend disbelief. I loved a few quotes in this because I believe self-doubt is the biggest killer of dreams. It's what holds us back from success. Taking the steps necessary to fail often, frequently, in order to make those big leaps.

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And in your chapter on suspend disbelief, you started with saying, act as if your success is for certain. Most people have so much doubt. Is this possible? What happens if I fail? What happens if I do succeed? The pressure. What about all the judgment I'm going to get from the actions and the failures? And you say, if you must doubt something, doubt your limits. I love that line.

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And one other line that really stood out to me is, your doubts are not the product of accurate thinking, but habitual thinking. And when I read that, I was like, wow, this is so true. It's not a product of accurate thinking. It's of habitual thinking. We've been thinking limited consistently. And this habit of thinking limited keeps us in a limited position.

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a state of being, a state of mind, as opposed to accurate thinking, what is possible. We don't step into that enough. And this whole chapter really opened up for me because my thesis in life is self-doubt is the killer of dreams.

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And when we can learn to believe in self, which is something you talked about here as well, needing to believe in yourself, it needs to be your goal, and you need to have a love story around this pursuit. But if we can't learn to believe in self, It's going to be hard. You can love the idea of your goal. You can have clear goals. But if you doubt you, your dreams are going to die.

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And I think that's a challenging thing for people to say, well, how do I learn to believe in self? How do I learn to have accurate thinking, not habitual thinking? How do I learn to doubt my limits as opposed to doubting myself? And how do I learn to act as if my success is for certain when I've always doubted me? What do you say to that statement?

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But the best actors in Hollywood make a lot of money. Exactly. And they're playing a role. Yeah. They aren't that role. That's right. That's not who they are in their normal life, but they're playing a role. And the better you can act, the more money you can make in Hollywood.

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Manage your remembering. What does that mean? Your memory of painful moments?

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I like to lift really heavy. Me too. And I like to run about two to three mile. I ran four miles last night, but I usually run two and a half to three at about a seven mile hour pace. Cool. So not too intense, not like too slow, but kind of like a steady pace.

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I daily do different sets and different kind of like body parts I guess but I'm constantly following a program to either intensify or add reps or add weights. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm getting more gains. In fact, I just put up 220. I haven't done 225 in years but I started like six months ago, maybe four months ago being like, how many can I do and I had three. Yeah.

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It's like, okay, let me see what I could do over the next few months and a couple weeks ago, I did... 11 and a half reps at 225. So, I feel like I'm back at almost college when I did 15 when I was training football. And I feel like I can do more than that now that I have more wisdom and knowledge and nutritional and training and recovery information.

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Exactly. I like to play pickleball. I want to make sure I'm doing like some athletic movements also, not just like I'm on a bar, I'm jogging on a treadmill, but it's like, okay, I need to do some pickleball. I like to do ping pong. I like to do different activities. I like to dance salsa.

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So I'm also making sure that I'm doing lateral movements, not just in the gym because I know how important that is for mobility, stretching, all those different things, ice tubs, sauna, like I'm incorporating as many diverse activities as possible.

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That's interesting because playing football growing up in high school and college, I always felt like I healed very quickly. Yeah. I felt like when I'd get a scrape or a cut or I'd get a bruise, it wouldn't really show. And I don't know if that was because I was training in a certain way that was explosive in power and speed that my microbiome, I guess, were helping me recover faster.

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I have no idea. Yeah. Like a rugby player.

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So would you say your gut microbiome influenced your mood more than anything else?

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Now, is this injection through the study, is that causation or is it, I guess, correlation? I guess, what is it? The difference between like, did it cause them, the microbiome to be depressed or is it... part of the correlation of it. It could be something else that is causing that.

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How do we get to the place where we start to choose healthy when we have the option? As opposed to, man, this is convenient. This Starbucks, I'm just going to get all the sugary drinks. I'm going to get the cookies. When you have the money to buy healthy food, but you still choose the convenience, the high sugar, the high calorie foods that have a lack of nutrition,

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And so this is- You're going to have the candy, the ice cream, the processed food, the packaged food all day long. Absolutely. The fast foods, all that stuff.

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And that's something you talk about with your new cookbook, which is about really eating healthy foods that taste delicious with family. Because we've lost the art of connecting with family when we eat. Everything is... fast or convenient or watching with the TV on, which I'm guilty of half the time, but not as a community.

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And you talk about in your book about how, you know, when you deal with family or friends you care about and you're eating meals together that you're specifically creating together or having some element or role in the creation process, how much more powerful is doing that consistently over time versus eating isolated and eating ultra processed foods by yourself?

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So, you want to have 30 different... Ingredients every week of plants. At least. Wow. At least. But you know what? I don't even know if I've tried 30 different plants in my life. Lewis, you and I need to spend more time together. Exactly, right? It's like 30. Wow, that's incredible.

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I was messed up for about 15 years in different relationships, man. It was like, it'll mess your health up. Absolutely. Your mind up.

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Spices count. Why is the... If someone's like, listen, I just like my five to 10 plants a week. I eat healthy plants. I eat mostly plants. I eat non-processed foods. Is that good enough? Or is it really more about the...

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Some of these guys, you hear about these NBA, NFL guys, it's like just candy half the day. Yeah. And they're just genetic freaks though.

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I've talked about this on past shows about bisphenol A. What would you say are the three oils we should try to eliminate from our diet? And then three healthier oils that...

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He takes like a shot a day of olive oil, right?

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For the audience watching or listening, I had my first taste of guacamole at your place. Yeah. Remember that? Yeah. Actually, this sounds bad, but as a 40-year-old man, I had my first avocado, like hard avocado. Congratulations. You're a big boy. I still have the palate of like a 70-year-old child.

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And I was like, ah, I'm scared. But did I do it? I'm like, that's not that bad.

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So we've got olive oil, avocado oil, all in dark bottles. What would be one more you think?

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Based on what I'm hearing you talk about, it almost sounds like if we stop thinking about mental health, not stop thinking about it, but focus more on gut health, it sounds like it connects to the brain and the mind and it'll create more alignment in ease versus dis-ease.

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Because there's a, who is the doctor? Dr. Emeryn Mayer, I think it is. I don't know if he's got a book called Gut-Brain Connection. I think somebody that's talking about these things as well. And it seems like a lot of the things that are stemming from the brain disease or challenges is in the gut.

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And it's also linked to longevity, it sounds like, as well. Exactly.

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But you can trade it to like kale or you can get rid of the ones that don't like kale, I guess.

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Yeah, 100%. And seeing what's in front of you, not just only focusing on how do I make it to 100 or 110, just enjoying the moment.

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Sure. If someone watching or listening has... maybe neglected their health for many years. And they're now living in excess weight or maybe even obesity. And they've been on a pattern and a routine of eating poorly, drinking a lot of excess alcohol, whatever it might be, and just not taking care of their health. And you were to prescribe just a 90 day game plan.

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to reset their metabolism and try to get the right things going again, what would you prescribe that individual? And how much do you think they could actually recover and start to heal from years of not taking care of their health?

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Interesting. So, the more diverse and expansive that you have with your plant diversity, the less hungry you'll be as well is what I'm hearing you say. Oh, 100%. So, if I just eat broccoli and spinach and kale- few times a week versus I might never feel like I'm full. It's like I still want more, right? So, I need some different carbs or some snacks or things to feel more full, but I'm

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Maybe it's not that extreme, but maybe it's, you know, 20 to 40 pounds overweight.

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Before you go to the next point, can you make a distinction, if you can explain to people, because I don't think people truly understand

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When you eat one processed meal, what is happening with a processed food, whether it's ultra processed or just processed and not it's complete whole food that you cook, what happens when it enters the mouth of ultra processed food or something that's processed and goes through the gut and out, what is happening to your body with that versus

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just single ingredient whole foods cooked and in the system.

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Okay, so the difference between... something minimally processed first ultra processed what happens to the gut the bacteria in your gut and the body and the immune system with having those different options yeah and i'll tell you what we know as it relates to longevity so first of all um i try to break it down really simply uh our body is like your car

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I'm hearing you say, right, if you have more diversity of plants more frequently, you're going to feel more satiated. You're going to get the fiber that your body needs to be less hungry as well.

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And you'll start to feel the effects, or at least your body will feel the effects within 24 hours.

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What are other things that ruin the gut bacteria then besides ultra processed foods?

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So vaping or smoking or cigars, that doesn't help the gut bacteria. No, not at all. Does it impact it in a negative way?

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How much of a block, if someone is smoking every day or vaping or doing cigars or pipes every day, or they're inhaling some type of smoke, how much of a dam are they creating in the flow of health throughout their nervous system, their bloodstream, their... I don't have a number for you, but it's pretty significant.

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So if someone is feeling like they have symptoms of some type of mental health challenge, they're feeling maybe they have ADHD or they have depression or depressed thoughts or they have anxiety or stress or overwhelm. What are three things they could do to start recognizing how to fix them?

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When someone takes an external drug like Ozempic... to create a chemical, I guess, formulation inside of the body, the brain, the gut, the nervous system, things like that, to either turn on or turn off certain things.

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How effective is that versus, you know, having 30 plants a week and just eating the foods that will make you feel, that will turn on these hormones that you're talking about that the drug would do and make you feel more satiated than a fool by itself?

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But it also sounds like, as I'm hearing you talk about this, it sounds like if someone's taking something like Ozempic, to lose weight, if that's their main goal, like I want to lose weight, I want to take this drug, it's going to help me be less hungry.

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But if someone's losing weight but they're just still eating processed foods and they're not having plants and they're just eating less junk but they're still eating junk, how will that affect the brain and the gut connection to feeling good beyond just losing the weight?

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And they're signaling the direction they want to go in. They want you to go in. Hey, you want more of this sugary drink. You want more candy. You want more chips.

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It's almost like we don't have control sometimes. Or maybe it's felt in the past like, I want this so bad. Yes, I can stop myself, but my desires and cravings are just like, I'm going to go to the store and buy candy right now. And is that the microbiome kind of signaling and constantly telling us, get this, go buy this, you need this?

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How long would you say it takes to change your taste buds from not craving sugar and processed foods into craving a diverse plant-based healthy options?

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So, from my perspective... Inflammation influences anxiety and depression. Oh, 100%. How much would you say, sorry to cut you off there, but how many, what's the percentage of the human population would you say has an inflamed gut and brain?

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What would be, for that first one, what would be the top five foods that everyone should eat daily to optimize their gut microbiome?

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So the number one thing you said is food. We covered some of these foods. Yes, and 30 different plants. And 30 different plants. Yeah.

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Really? Yeah. Just putting them on that nutritional food plan. Yes. For some reason, I don't like the word diet because I feel like it's a restriction. Yeah. As opposed to an addition of healthy things. Which is what we're talking about, right? It's not about like... eating less and starving yourself. And I think that's what people associate the word diet to.

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It's like starvation, cutting out all foods that I enjoy and being miserable. That's what people think when they think of diet. And so I'd like to try, I try to keep correcting myself to being like, what's the healthy food plan? What's the nutritional abundance plan that we're going to step into?

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They are not getting enough oxygen during their sleep or they are mouth breathing during sleep. These days, it's become popular in some circles to take a little bit of medical tape and tape the mouth shut and to learn to be a nasal breather.

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In the morning, or I do a portion of that weekly cardio. And I just alternate. Weight train one day, cardio the next. And then one day a week, I don't do anything. I don't do any exercise.

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Yeah, and I miss days. Occasionally because of travel or other schedules or appointments, I might take two days off. I never go seven days. I personally do well having a complete day off each week. But the hour of exercise generally is five, ten minutes of warm-up. And it's hard work.

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This is a new thing that we can get into when I talk about dopamine, but I do not allow myself to check social media, text message, phone calls, and lately not even music when I train for reasons that we can get into later. I'm really trying to get focused on what I'm doing, and I'm trying to extract the greatest amount of joy from the process in its purest form. So no phone, essentially.

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I try not to have the phone. Occasionally I'll use music or I'll listen to a podcast because it's such a great time to do that. So I don't want to say I never do, but most of the time I'm trying very hard to just do my exercise. And it doesn't matter if you run, swim, bike, row.

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uh you know people these days can do calisthenics or weight training or something of that sort the weight training thing is interesting because muscle building aside it's very clear that five sets a week per muscle group is what's required to maintain muscle and this is true for men this is true for women and obviously in young kids you don't want them weight training with heavy loads because it can shut down their long bone growth

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that's the myth or what they say anyway, but I don't know, kids are developing anyway. So I don't know, I'll leave that to the coaches to decide that and the parents.

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But I think for people that are in their late teens, early 20s and onward, it's really important if you look at longevity, a lot of the major injuries and early deaths and not just due to accident, but chronic illness comes from people falling and breaking a hip, just not being strong. And so I think being strong, regardless of who you are, is important.

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And so that's five sets per week minimum per muscle group and probably more like 10. Routines splay out differently. So I do my thing. People have their thing. So I try and exercise. Or I do a 90 minute work about. And if I exercise, we could talk about that. Then I would shower and do my 90-minute workout. But sometimes I do the 90-minute workout first.

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And there is excellent evidence now that being a nasal breather, most of the time, as long as you're not speaking or eating or exercising hard enough that you would need to breathe through your mouth, that it's beneficial to be a nasal breather for a couple of reasons. First of all, if you are deliberately nasal breathing during the day,

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And that's generally when I'm starting to drink the caffeine. And the 90-minute workout is a serious, non-negotiable time in which I don't allow myself to be on the internet. I'm not checking email. I'm not texting. My phone is off, off, off. and not on airplane mode. And it's a process of learning to focus and learning to do what we call no-go functions in the brain.

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So we have an area of the brain called the basal ganglia that control go functions, like reaching out for a pen, and no-go, which is resisting the urge to do something. And these are circuits that are very important for learning how to control attention and for controlling behavior. Young animals, puppies, humans don't do no-go very well. Do you know the two marshmallow test?

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Okay, the two marshmallow, you offered kids a marshmallow and you say if you don't eat it, you'll get two marshmallows. In 10 minutes, some kids can do it. That's pure, that's a no-go task. You're saying how well can you resist the urge to just go and eat the marshmallow? And there are a number of things that mimic this.

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Another no-go type behavior would be meditation, for instance, where you sit down, it's kind of painful to sit cross-legged, your thoughts are drawing you off, you remember something you need to do, and you're resisting the temptation to get up and do something else. And so this 90-minute work bout is a kind of combined meditation but also functional work for me. So for me, that could be writing.

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It could be planning a podcast. It could be reading. It's something that's kind of hard. And the thing to understand about this 90 minute work bout is that you should expect some friction early on. It's not like you just flip a switch and you're in. that it takes some time to get into this focus mode. And throughout that time, your brain will flicker in and out.

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And there's a tool that you can use to enhance your focus prior to this 90 minute workout. And I actually do this. It sounds a little crazy, but it actually is grounded in really good neuroscience, which is that you place a crosshatch, you know, just a target at some distance on a piece of paper and you force yourself to stare at it and not blink for about 30 to 60 seconds.

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And what you're doing is you're ramping up the neural circuits in the brain that drive go, no go, and harnessing your visual attention. Your focus. Your focusing. Visual focus drives cognitive focus. And for people that aren't sighted, auditory focus drives cognitive focus. So visual focused drives cognitive focus. Yes. These two little bits of

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that we call eyes are, as people probably heard me say before, are two little bits of brain that are outside the cranial vault. They're the only way that your brain knows what to do in terms of whether or not it's day or night, who's out there, et cetera. But it's also a mechanism by which you draw your attentional systems into, from kind of everywhere.

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Imagine spotlights just kind of moving around, bringing those spotlights to a common location and then intensifying that spotlight. And since most work involves what we call exterocepting, looking outside ourself, this is very different than sitting in meditation where you're focusing internally.

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Because when you sit down to work, you kind of want to forget about your heartbeat and how your feet feel on the floor and that your back might be a little sore or something. You want to be in the work. And so I set a timer and I force 90 minutes of this and it's really tough, Louis. Some days it's anything to go get something out of the fridge. Get up and distract myself. And occasionally I fail.

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The tendency is that you will nasal breathe at night, which tends to lead to less sleep apnea, less mouth breathing during the middle of the night, and less brain fog. Why brain fog?

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I will get up and go do something and I'll look at my phone. I do falter sometimes. But if you can learn to do this 90-minute bout. I bet consistently you can create some amazing work. You will do your best work. And what's really wonderful is it's not just about the work that you perform in that bout. What ends up happening is really special. This sort of combined meditation work.

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bout as I'm calling it, has this effect of you are actually tuning up and making your neural circuits for focus and attention better. So that after that, okay, you flip on the internet, you check your email, you're doing text messaging, you're probably hungry now. I'm hungry if I've exercised, I'll eat my meal, my lunch. I tend to fast till about lunch most days.

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But what happens then is after lunch or something, you decide, oh, you know, I'm going to sit down and read something or I'm going to do some more work. But I've only got 20 minutes. You can drop in like a laser.

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Well, during sleep, a number of restorative processes occur, but if you're not getting enough oxygen into the system, the brain is literally becoming hypoxic, and a lot of the cleaning out mechanisms, the lymphatic system, etc., as they're called, don't get an opportunity to function as well as they ought to.

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So you wake up in the morning, you slept your normal six to eight hours, but you're feeling kind of groggy and out of it. And of course, there could be other reasons that you're experiencing brain fog. Maybe you... For people that drink alcohol the night before, maybe they had alcohol. For people that maybe they ate a meal that was too large before sleep, maybe any number of reasons, right?

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But getting adequate oxygenation of the brain during sleep is key. So learn to be a nasal breather. And for those of you out there that say, well, I have a deviated septum, a lot of people think they have deviated septums. The problem is they're not nasal breathing enough. The sinuses actually can learn to dilate if you nasal breathe.

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Exercising while nasal breathing will kind of depend on the sport. Like if you box, oftentimes there's the need to do a shh or, you know, kind of like exhale on impact type thing. So I don't think anyone should tamper with their normal breathing patterns as it relates to sport or singing or some you know, activity.

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But what I'm talking about is when you're just standing around, when you're walking down the street, any low level activity, you're working at your desk, you should be nasal breathing and breathing regularly. That will reduce brain fog in many cases.

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for optimal performance and not getting brain fog okay um i will describe that uh by listing out the protocol first and then i'll give some of the scientific mechanisms second yes because in the past what i've tended to do is uh give the mechanism and then give the protocols i know some people it's like you know enough for these academic guys they'll just give me the give me tell them just tell me what to do but if people want the mechanism i'd be happy to flesh that out yes

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I should say that what I will mention is not everything I do. So for instance, I get up and like most humans, I use the restroom and I have a glass of water.

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So I'm not listing every right foot, left foot step through the morning. But the things that are geared towards getting the mind into a proper place, for me, I'll describe it as my routine. I generally get up somewhere between... 5.30 and 7 in the morning, depending on when I went to sleep. I'm not super regular about when I go to sleep, but generally that's between 10.30 and midnight.

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I try and avoid that midnight hour, but it happens. So I get up and Obviously I use the restroom, I drink some water. I do think that hydrating is very important. So I'll drink some water. And then the fundamental layer of health is to set your circadian rhythm. The simplest way to do that is to go outside for 10 minutes and get some bright light in your eyes.

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I'll just list off some of the things that people always ask, what if you wake up before the sun rises? Well, simple rule, if you want to be awake, turn on as many bright lights in your house as possible, but then when the sun comes out, excuse me, get outside and see some sunlight. You do not have to look directly into the sun, but you do want to get outside out of shade cover if you can.

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Don't wear sunglasses if you can do that safely. Don't try and do this through a window. Don't try and negotiate with me on this point.

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What about a window? Well, the filtration of the important wavelengths of light through the window is just too high, and so it would take hours for you to set your circadian clock that way.

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you want to do this because once every 24 hours you're going to get a peak in cortisol which is a healthy peak you want that peak to happen early in the day because it sets up alertness for the remainder of the day there are really nice studies done by my colleagues in stanford psychiatry and biology department showing that if that cortisol peak starts to drift too late in the day you start seeing signs of depression it's actually a well-known marker of depression

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So you want that cortisol almost stressed out kind of the day's beginning. I have a lot to do feeling that's a healthy thing. You want that happening early in the day. The sunlight will wake you up. And what's really cool is that over time, you'll start to notice the sunlight waking you up more and more. The system becomes tuned up. If you miss a day, it's not the end of the world.

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Because it's a, as we call it, a slow integrating system. But don't miss more than one day. And if you live in an area where it's very cloudy outside, just know that the sunlight, the photons coming through that cloud cover are brighter than your brightest indoor lights. Now, if you live in a very dark region of the world or it's unsafe or purely impractical to get outside in the morning...

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Then it might make sense to get a sunrise simulator or one of these lights, but they tend to be very expensive. What I recommend people use instead is just a ring light, a blue light. This is a case where you can blast your system. Wow. So get that morning light. It sets a number of things in motion, such as your melatonin rhythm to happen 16 hours later to help you fall asleep.

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I would say this is the fundamental... step of any good morning. And if you don't do this enough, you are messing yourself up in a number of ways. Does this mess with digestion also? Yeah. So every cell in your body has a 24 hour clock. All those clocks need to be aligned to the same time.

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So imagine a clock shop with lots of different clocks and you don't want them alarming off at different times. This sunlight viewing or bright light viewing early in the day, I would say within 30 to 60 minutes of waking up, for about 10 minutes, or if it's very cloudy, maybe 30 minutes or so.

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That activates a particular type of neuron in the eye called the intrinsically photosensitive retinal ganglion cell, if people wanna look that up, signals to the circadian clock, which is right above the roof of your mouth, but that is the master circadian clock that then releases a bunch of signals into your body.

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This all happens very fast, and every cell in your body gets tuned to the exact same time reference point so that your system can work as a nice concert of cells as opposed to out of whack. your gut has a clock, your liver has a clock, your heart cells have a clock, every skin cell has a clock.

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And for those that are not incentivized enough by the cortisol stuff and all the other things, actually the replenishment of stem cells in the skin, hair, and nails is activated by the system. So hair grows more readily, skin turns over and nails grow more quickly because you have stem cells, literally cells that release more cells that become new hair cells or new skin cells and new

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cells that make up the nails so skin hair and nails also benefit and it has to be light exposure to the eyes when we talk about all these things like the gut and the skin etc it's tempting to say oh it's sunlight on the skin no it's actually only can be signaled through the eyes because the clock lives deep in the brain that master clock and you need the signal to get to that master clock

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So don't wear sunglasses. If you can avoid wearing sunglasses safely, right? There are people, for instance, who have macular degeneration, who have to avoid bright lights, and they know this because their ophthalmologist tells them. If you wear corrective lenses, contacts, even if it has UV filtration, that's fine. In fact...

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Great question. Well, there are a lot of sources of brain fog. The most obvious one would be a poor night's sleep. Okay. And sleep, of course, being the most fundamental layer of mental and physical health. I mean, You don't sleep well for one night, you're probably okay. For two nights, you start to fall apart. Three, four nights, you're really a degraded version of yourself in every aspect.

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If you think about what an eyeglass or a contact lens does is it focuses light onto the eye, actually on the retina, on the back of the eye, whereas looking through a window filters it. It blocks a certain amount of light coming in, even if it's a very clear window. So go outside if you wear glasses, fine. If you wear contacts, fine.

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And if you can get out on a porch and be east-facing in the morning when the sun comes up, great. You don't need to see the sun cross the horizon. But ideally, you see the sun when it's at what we call low solar angle. It's not directly overhead.

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If you wait two or three hours after waking up to get bright light in your eyes, you are setting yourself up for a complicated sleep-wake cycle that leads to a lot of what we call insomnia.

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It depends on how bright it is. So for instance, this morning I woke up because of where I live. There's a lot of tree cover, but I saw that the sun was, there were a lot of shadows, but it was casting a nice patch of light. in the street right in front of my house. So I'm the weirdo that walked out there with my coffee. Actually, I delay my coffee. It was with my water in the morning.

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I'll talk about why I delay coffee. And I'm leaning against a tree. I confess I was text messaging for part of that. Forgive me, I'm human. And catching the sunlight coming in through my eyes for a few minutes, I allow myself to blink, obviously.

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You don't want to look directly. There's a safety mechanism. I guess if it's a lower horizon. It's not that intense. We have a built-in safety mechanism, which is if you need to blink and close your eyes, close your eyes. But yeah, I've got sunlight in my eyes. I get the weird looks from my neighbors, but they know me. And they do it too. Sometimes they'll join me. Animals will naturally do this.

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They'll migrate to the sun. So then I go inside. It's 10 minutes or so. It seems like a long time, but it is so beneficial. And then inside, if I want to be awake, I try and turn on as many bright lights as I can. One of the big mistakes that we've made in the last few years as a culture is assuming that blue light is bad.

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During the day, lots of blue light is great because that's the best signal for these cells that wake up your system. It activates all sorts of important hormone pathways and wakefulness pathways. Interesting. It can reduce brain fog in some sense. Sure. It's in the evening that you want to avoid blue lights and bright lights of any kind. We can talk about that. Okay.

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So then I come back inside and then I do not drink caffeine right away. It's important in many ways to delay caffeine enough so that you can clear out some of the chemical signals in the brain and body that lead to a feeling of fatigue. So the longer you're awake, the more a molecule called adenosine builds up in your system. And when you sleep, you push that adenosine level back down.

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When you wake up in the morning, that adenosine level can be zero, but oftentimes there's still some hanging around. Caffeine is an adenosine antagonist. It blocks adenosine function. It's a little more complicated than that, but that's effectively what it does. So if you wake up and you've got, let's say 20%, let's make, this is arbitrary, but 20% of your adenosine still hasn't been cleared out.

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That's sort of a drowsiness that you woke up with. Then you go and you drink your coffee and you crush that ability of adenosine to have that effect, but it hasn't gone away. so that when your coffee wears off mid-morning, now that adenosine is there and you feel like there's a mid-morning crash or an afternoon crash. So I delay my caffeine intake

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for about 90 and ideally 120 minutes after I wake up. Because in that way, you bring your adenosine level down very, very low to zero, and then you don't get this rebound crash in the afternoon. For years, I would get this post-lunch crash, and I thought maybe I'm eating too much for lunch, which I probably was, or maybe I'm eating the wrong foods.

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Emotionality is off, ability to do most anything is off, hormones start suffering. So sleep is fundamental. But assuming that you slept well, There are a number of things. One is your breathing patterns. We often get into discussions of breathing, but this is a slightly different one than we've had in the past. A lot of people have sleep apnea.

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Turned out it was all related to my timing of caffeine. And your system learns how to wake up naturally. You get the natural cortisol and adrenaline. Give it the time. Give it the time. And people hate this one because it's a little painful for the caffeine addicts, but I'm a pretty serious caffeine addict and I embrace that. And I'll tell you, it also makes the joy of the coffee so much greater.

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It tastes so much better. And that relates to the dopamine system, which I know we're going to talk about later. I sometimes will drink yerba mate instead of... Yeah, I love mate. Mate has a couple... Do you put honey in it or anything? I don't. Sweet stevia or something? I don't really like sweet stuff too much. Man, I wish I had that disease. Yeah, it's... You know, I wish I had that.

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I like savory things and salty things. I like yerba mate for a number of reasons. I don't like the really smoky mates. My dad's Argentine, so I grew up drinking mate. You don't speak Spanish, though, do you? I speak four words of Spanish, and those I speak poorly. Is your dad fluent? He's fluent. Come on. I know. That's a crime, isn't it? It's a crime. Well, it's not a crime I committed.

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I love my dad. Bilingual parents, please... Encourage your children to learn multiple languages. Musicians, parents. Teach your kids the instrument. Have you ever seen the people who play guitar in college? Let's just say their lives are better than everyone else's.

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Anyone that's thinking about their morning routine and brain fog, you know, there's no reason why in your morning water you might just put a little tiny pinch of salt. And if you're drinking a lot of coffee in any form, or caffeine in any form, I should say, then you want to be sure you're getting enough sodium. And you'll notice that if you drink a lot of caffeine, that you'll crave sodium.

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And this has a whole relationship in the kidney and aldosterone, and we don't have time to go into it. But I always make sure that if I'm drinking water before with my caffeine, that I try and put a little bit of salt in there. And there are a lot of supplement companies now spinning up. We don't have to throw out brands that that were, that are selling salt solution.

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This is, this is becoming big, big.

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Water with salt. Okay. And then it's a question of whether or not I'm training that day or not. Uh, so I do believe getting exercise is important. I think the data, having reviewed the data and talked to, uh, a number of experts on this. In particular, there's a guy who's really terrific. You may know him, Dr. Andy Galpin, who's down at Cal State Fullerton, excellent exercise physiologist.

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But also, if you look across the mass of studies on exercise and heart health, there are a couple of things that become clear. One is that Everybody should be getting 120 to 150 and maybe even 150 to 180 minutes of so-called zone two cardio a week. This is the kind of cardiovascular exercise where you're doing work.

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You could have a conversation, but you're kind of at the threshold where it's not super easy to have a conversation. We're not talking sprints. There's just a myriad of effects on heart health, vascular health all over the body, gut microbiome, musculoskeletal stability, mental health, all these kinds of things. So I have a routine where I either weight train for an hour.

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Yeah. So, creating that plan. Speaking of... That was great, I loved all this about getting clear on your financial health and making more. But I wanted to ask you about intimacy, relationships, money, and power. Let's do it.

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And you've been in a relationship for six, seven years, engaged for a year, but you also saw people probably go through different types of power dynamics and relationships in New York City, on Wall Street, and people with lots of money.

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When you were either dating before this, the the guys on the floor who'd been married and divorced i'm sure you heard some crazy stories of people and i'm sure and i'm sure the divorce rate is higher on wall street than just like middle america i don't know suburbs i don't know i don't know if i would say that really yeah Maybe they just keep it together but they have like separate wives.

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Yeah, I don't know. Who knows? Yeah. Three families like on billions or something.

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Yeah, exactly. But how much does money affect intimacy and relationships when one person has more than the other, when both have a lot, when both have a little? What have you witnessed and personally but also what have you experienced from your research?

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On making a relationship or marriage work, you mean? Correct.

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So do you think when a woman makes more than a man in a relationship that it eventually will fail? No. It's possible that it works out?

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I've heard this. You tell me if I'm, you know, off on this but I've heard that extremely successful you know, let's call them boss girls or whatever, boss women who are, you know, running their own business, CEOs, making money, you know, leading the way, building inspiring things and also extremely attractive women. Mm-hmm. don't get approached by men as much for some reason.

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That's what I've heard. I don't know if that's accurate or not, but that's what I've heard. It's like if you're making a lot of money as a woman or if you're extremely attractive physically, guys are intimidated. This is what I've heard. Why do you think men are intimidated by extremely successful financial success within women or physically attractive women?

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Wow, interesting. Do you think it's harder for men to approach, you know, a smoke show of a woman, I guess, aesthetically versus someone who's making more money than them? Or is it harder to approach someone making more money than them?

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Yeah, that's beautiful. I love them. Those are probably the most unique three truths I've heard. I like that. Uh, before I ask the final question, Vivian, I want to acknowledge you for your, your realness. I love this conversation. I love connecting. I love it. I think it's amazing.

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What can someone do who is an employee to be really smart and intentional about getting a raise? Yeah. How can they show their value, their work ethic, that they're getting the results that's going to increase revenue in the business? As opposed to just saying, give me a 20% raise or a 10% raise because I deserve it.

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So I'm, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm excited to connect with you and to share this message and hopefully connect more and have you back on and learn more about your stuff. So I acknowledge you for, um, for sharing this in your authentic way. I'm curious, what is the difference between millionaires and billionaires and everyone else?

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I'm curious. I think it was one of the interviews I saw from you where you're interviewing some guy. Maybe you'll remember who this is. And you ask him like, what's your definition of success? And he said something like, as an adult, my adult kids still want to hang out with me on their own. Not because I have money, but because they just like me. Yeah. Yeah.

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And I was like, man, that really hit me. And I don't know, was that from your, one of your- The founder of FedEx. The founder of FedEx. Of Kinkos, Kinkos. Kinkos. Yeah. So do you remember what that was or what that question was? I don't know if that was the exact question or what he said, but do you remember that?

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How do they enroll through actual results as opposed to, I just want a raise.

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But for 20 years, you lived a certain level of life, building your business, making money. And there was anxiety and stress around that for a long time, right? Yeah. When did you realize like, okay, this level of stress and, you know, emotional overwhelm and just like always needing to get bigger and bigger and bigger.

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When did you realize that no longer works for you and that you wanted to shift it? Yeah. Maybe you knew from the beginning it doesn't work, but you were still doing it. But when did you realize, okay, this is not how I want to live the rest of my life?

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Give it to me. Otherwise, I'm not happy.

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Really? Yeah. When most people found more stress, you found peace.

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So you were engaged, maybe there were some ups and downs and you weren't fully clear.

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And he asked you that question. Yeah. Are you getting what you're getting?

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It's interesting, I asked myself a question in a previous relationship before. I think Esther Perel said something like, can you see yourself having 10,000 meals with this person? Like, if you're going to have 10,000 meals with a person, do you see yourself enjoying those meals, having fun, or is it more stressful?

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What has money and relationships taught you about when you've been in a relationship that you weren't fully sure of?

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So what did you do with your money? Because you were making money every year. Was it just compounding in a bank account? Yeah.

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Do you believe in practicing gratitude and manifesting and the law of attraction? And if so, has that helped you attract more in the life you want?

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money This moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness.

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So it sounds like you were pretty self-critical and you didn't feel like you had self-worth or feel like you were worthy for a long time building AppSumo. Yeah. But you still built an $85 million business feeling unworthy, feeling underqualified and not fully loving and accepting yourself. Is that right? Yeah.

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On a scale of 1 to 10 of self-worth, where would you say you were for most of those years, the first 10 years of building AppSumo? Yeah. One being you have very little self-worth and don't believe you're deserving of any of it. The money, the success, the love, and 10 being you're deserving of all of it. Where were you for most of those years?

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Man, this is beautiful. I'm so glad you're talking about this. Have you seen the movie Creed 3?

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Creed 3 was the most recent one. Anyway, long story short about it, the Adonis Creed, he's now world champion in all these things. Has all the money. He's in the Hollywood Hills, like living the dream, you know, most famous guy in sports or whatever it is. And he's kind of depressed. He's like not boxing anymore. He's not like, just kind of sitting around depressed and like,

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someone from his past comes into his life out of prison, right? Someone from his past comes. And there was some darkness that they both went through which caused this person to go to prison that Adonis, the main character, never faced. And he was kind of always running from his pain, his past. You talked about facing yourself.

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I'm curious, what was the thing that you had to face that was the hardest thing in the last couple of years that allowed you to have more peace and more freedom in yourself

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What's, what's been scarier recommitting to owning your CEO role in a business that you helped build coming back to that and taking ownership or Or getting out of a relationship that wasn't working to enter a new relationship and now have a baby on the way.

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If someone only has a few thousand dollars a year extra to spend on something, what's more important for them, to invest it in the stock market or real estate, or to invest in themselves?

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If someone has skills, but they have a bad relationship with money, or they have money wounds, or they have money beliefs that... they live in fear around whenever they receive money. Are they able to earn and make a lot with those money wounds?

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That's all it is. How do people learn how to behave with money?

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That's it. What if people have never had money and then all of a sudden, oh, I got $1,000. And they get excited or they get scared or they get worried. How do you manage the energy that money brings to you?

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What's the most you spent on one-on-one time?

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What was the biggest lesson he taught you in that one hour? He said, protect your reputation with your life. Did you need to spend $350,000 for that?

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Protect your reputation with your life. What does that look like? And how does one do that? When anyone can speak about them negatively online and say what they want and make stuff up or-

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Right. You know, what I think about is like, who is able to show up with just consistent good attitude, energy and effort consistently? Who creates the least amount of stress? Yes. You know, that I don't want to think about the challenges and the stress that is being brought to the team or to myself, but that you're just consistent.

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And the longer people know you for one set of characteristics, the longer it's going to take for them to unlearn that.

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You need to spend two or three years with them now to show up as you are, not two days.

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Not that you can't have a challenging day or bad stuff happens, but just overall, you got pretty good attitude. Yeah. Pretty good energy. You're willing to show up and work hard consistently. It's like, all right, cool. You're going to get rewarded.

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It's tough, man. For about a decade, I felt like I didn't have many friends. I felt like all my childhood high school college friends, they didn't want to hang out or when we hung out, they didn't really understand me and they were kind of judging me and it felt like why are they always talking weird about me behind my back? Why am I not invited anymore to stuff? It's kind of hurtful, right?

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Totally. But at the same time, those I guess childhood friends that I maybe do have or I talked to once in a blue moon, they've chosen to accept the person I've become and appreciate who I still am, not expect me to be who they once knew. And I can respect them for that and not judge them on their journey and just accept them for being a friend.

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He's not judging you. He's like, you're amazing. And you keep him in his life, in your life.

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Speaking of young men and ourselves when we were younger, what would you say are three brutal truths that young men need to hear in order to become more successful in life?

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Yeah, yeah. Because fulfillment is winning for you. For me. That's your hobby. Your hobby is winning. Where some people have hobbies for joy and fulfillment, you have hobbies which are to win.

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Or she's gonna say, you need to be, you need to make this much, you need to do this, you need this, and she's gonna give you the answers.

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And then do you wanna pay that price? Exactly.

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Yeah. Then what do you think are the most toxic traits that young men have today that are holding them back?

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If someone is financially sick and unwell and their financial health is unstable, what are a few strategies they can do to either increase their income or get back to financial wholeness?

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No. But if you do a set set of actions, it starts to bend.

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But it bends to your will once you do the actions that it wants you to create for you to get the results you want.

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But because of the actions you took over the last 20 years, you were able to create extraordinary results.

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I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts.

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It sounds like people hire or they give raises or opportunities to people they like more. Is that what I'm hearing you say? What was the study from? Do you remember this likability study?

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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It's not about being the smartest or the most technical. It's about you want to have technical skills and be smart.

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Interesting. It's more about personality than your technical skills. Yeah. Is what it sounds like. Interesting. Yeah. But you got to be competent as well.

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Man, I don't know how I got here then. I was like barely past school, you know? Yeah. But it's interesting. We were just talking about this event this last weekend and one of the speakers, Vanessa Van Edwards, she's kind of like a behavioral scientist and studies people and soft skills and all these different things.

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And she was like, if you want to be interesting as a human being, it's not about how... much knowledge you know or how funny stories you tell or whatever your history, it's about how interested you are in other people.

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It's like your ability to listen and engage and ask more questions and when people feel that you care about them and are interested in them, they're going to be more interested in you. And so it's kind of turning the tables around where you don't need to be that smart, but you need to be present. You need to be engaging.

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You need to be able to have courage to ask those questions and look someone in the eyes and just have a good energy. And I think that's part of it as well. That'll take you a long way in a career. So that's what I'm hearing you say around if you're wanting to increase your income is some practical things. What about if you have...

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a sick financial health and you're just, you're not sure where your money's at. You're not sure where you're spending your money. You're not sure how much debt you have. You're, you know, buying three lattes a day or whatever it is. And you're just like, huh, I really don't have an emergency fund. I really don't have much savings. I don't have any investments and I'm in debt.

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How can they get back to a healthy place? What are practical steps they can do?

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Let's start with emergency fund.

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What do you say, six months, three months?

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The highest first. Yes. Even if it's got, even if, I don't know, Even if it's got the least amount or the most amount of debt, it doesn't matter? Does not matter.

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So, psychologically, you might be like, oh, I'm getting things done faster. But you're not. But you might still be paying more in interest later. Correct.

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Got it. Okay. Total debt, that's the T. Total debt.

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It's like- Millennial, Gen Z, yeah.

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Come on. Not a dollar. Over 59? No. 25% don't have anything saved. 27% is the actual. Wow. Not a dollar. Why is that? Why do people wait so long to have zero retirement?

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And buying stuff with the retirement money or with separate money?

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With that money. With that money. Interesting.

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But most people aren't aware of that, huh?

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What type of plan should they be making? What's a good idea of making a plan?

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My friend, thank you so much for being here today. And I have a massive announcement, super big, something I've been doing behind the scenes for the last two years, but really it's been 12 years in the making since I started the School of Greatness show. And if you are looking to create a financial freedom in your life,

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Then we talk about something that, man, has changed my life around business and money. And that is how to discover and develop money mentors in your life to help you from... minimizing the risks and the losses around your financial journey and helping you maximize the gains. When I started to learn about money mentors, it changed everything for me.

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One thing a money mentor could say to you could help you earn so much more or help you save from losing a lot as well. We talk about all these principles in the book And I give you the money mentors that I've interviewed in their greatest tips in Make Money Easy as well.

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All the best people that I've interviewed, I got them to mentor me and also I got them to mentor you and I share their best practices in Make Money Easy. We talk about all these things and more because this isn't just another book about finances or investing. That's not what this is about. This is everything you need to own your worth so you can earn more and create the abundance you desire.

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And in this book, you discover the seven money habits to unlock financial peace and freedom. And these seven habits are crucial. Again, 12 years of interviews on the School of Greatness with some of the top leaders in the world, financial experts in the world, money masters. And here are seven habits that you need to unlock to create financial abundance and peace in your life.

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First is the mindset habit. This is key. So many people try to get ahead of the mindset habit, and by doing so, you might make more, but you feel more scarce, you feel more chaotic, you feel more anxious around money. The mindset habit is key and is the first thing that we talk about in Make Money Easy.

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One of the biggest causes of divorce are around money problems. People fight with friends and family around money problems. This is such a big topic. Again, the biggest episodes we do are around money and how to unlock more abundance in your life.

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Then we talk about the mapping habit, how to map your vision for the money you want in your life. We talk about the monetizing habit, how to monetize your skill sets for true abundance. Then we go into the mastermind habit. Man, when I learned this principle, It's almost like I tripled and quadrupled my earnings within six months when I developed and understood the mastermind habit.

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Then we go into the mobility habit. This is really how you scale your wealth to the next level by understanding how to maximize your time and delegating the things that you don't need to do. Then we go into the magnetic habit. Ooh! Life is a game of enrollment, my friend. And there's a powerful question you can ask. What's the chance? What's the chance? What's the chance?

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There's so many things you can do that we talk about in this book to enroll people in your dreams and your goals and in your vision. And that comes with the magnetic habit. Then we've got the mastery habit. The seventh and final habit around this book is mastery. This is going to be powerful.

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And again, if money has been a struggle for you, or if you feel anxious or avoidant or emotionally overwhelmed with your financial situation, now is the time for a change. Now is the time. I want you to feel secure with money. I want you to step into a room and money be right in front of you and you have a beautiful relationship with that person called money.

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I want you to be able to look money in the eyes. I want you to feel relaxed and comfortable, feel expansive. I want you to feel like you have all the skills to be able to have a courageous conversation with money. I want you to feel like, hey, money,

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i'm gonna give you money i'm gonna receive money i'm gonna spend it and feel like it's all good it flows i want you to be like a river of abundance flowing to you and through you money where you can spend it how you choose you can save it you can invest it you can do whatever you want without feeling anxious without feeling avoidant without feeling insecure i want you to feel attached

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with your money relationship. And that's what this book, Make Money Easy, is all about. Because when you focus on who you are and the unique value you bring to the world, your energy and actions will invite more money to you, my friend. That's what this is all about. And you've been blocking your abundance. You've been blocking it.

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Maybe you've been able to get to a certain level, but you've been stuck there. And again, if that's you, if you feel like I haven't been able to break through on the money I've been making, I've been kind of stuck at this level for a few years, and I just feel like I'm not sure of myself on how to get to the next level, then let me know. If you're watching on YouTube, leave a comment below.

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If you feel like you've been blocked and you're not sure what to do, if you're listening on Apple or Spotify or wherever you're listening, let me know, message me over on Instagram or post it on YouTube if you feel blocked by getting to the next level because I want you to feel financially free. By the actions and the energy you show up with, you will start to invite more money to you.

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And I thought to myself a few years ago, after writing The Greatest Mindset, that becoming a big New York Times bestseller, I said, what is the thing that people need the most? I asked you. I did polls. I did questions out on social media to our email list. I said, what is your biggest pain point and problem? And you responded with money. So money it is.

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And if you are ready to live a richer life and create financial peace. Now is the moment and this is your key to unlock the seven money habits to make money easy. And again, I want you to get this book right now. I want you to order this book. I want you to buy this for yourself.

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I want you to buy this for a family member or a friend, someone that you know is maybe blocked by their financial situation right now. Maybe they're struggling. This is the book I wish I had when I was broke and on my sister's couch.

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If someone would have had this book and given it to me, it would have given me so much more peace because I learned how to make money around 25, 26, 27, I started to make money. But man, I had a lot of stress and anxiety around it. And I would stack my money in the bank I would just save it and stack it. And I was afraid to lose any of it.

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I was afraid like if it went down in my bank account, it would mess me up. It was like my mindset was messed up. I had the skills to earn. I didn't have the emotional mindset to understand how to navigate it though and how to feel at peace about it. So I kept making more and feeling more and more anxious and stressed. And that is like financial prison.

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Having money but feeling like you're a prisoner to it is not enjoyable. Now, being broken on your sister's couch is not enjoyable either. They're both not fun. But when you have the ability to earn more and you have the ability to feel peace and harmony around it and be in a secure relationship with money, man, life just unfolds in a beautiful way. Life feels relaxed.

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You feel like, ooh, I feel light. I feel emotionally light. I feel physically light. I feel spiritually whole. And that's what I want for you. And what you can do right now, if you are struggling or maybe you're making a lot of money, but you feel like, why do I stress about it still? Then you can go to lewishouse.com slash money right now and order a copy of this book.

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It would be a big favor to me if you go get a copy right now. lewishouse.com slash money. And here's what I'm going to do for you. I'm going to give you something in return. I'm going to do a... Make Money Masterclass that is all about the money mindset that you need to create abundance in your life. So we're gonna create a Money Mindset Masterclass for you.

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It's only gonna be for people that get the book right now. So when you purchase the book, you're gonna get a receipt and we'll give you instructions on where to upload that receipt so you can get access to the Money Mindset Masterclass.

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If I've ever added any value in your life, if you've gotten value from this show, if this show has given you any tools or tips or inspiration to support you, to help you grow in any way, then it would mean a lot to me if you go to lewishouse.com slash money right now, order a copy, heck, order two or five or 10 if you want to give it to your friends and family.

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If you know more than one person that has struggled with money, Then get a few copies right now because they'll ship to your door. So again, I want you to think about how you can show up and give in a way that brings that joy, that brings smile, that shifts someone's energy today like my dad used to do when he would tip in twos.

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And my goal is to help you make money easy. And again, we have a brand new book and I want you to order it today because I'm going to give you a very special money masterclass when you do. I'm going to share more details on that in a second. But first, I want to share a few stories that I think are going to be powerful for you today, whether you get this book or not.

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And this is a gift that he passed down to me where I've been able to bring so much joy to people just by handing them a $2 bill. And when you can give generously with your heart, the amount of richness that your life has is far more than money. You get an experience, you get a memory, you get a moment with someone when you have a mindset of generosity.

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And generosity is the gateway to abundance along with gratitude. So I wanna express my gratitude for my father who is no longer with us, who gave me this gift who showed me this mindset every single day of his life. He showed me this generous gift. And I wanna thank you for your generosity, for always showing up and listening and watching and being a part of this show.

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It's been such a beautiful 12 years and I'm so grateful for the entire greatness team who has helped bring this book to life because it has been two years behind the scenes, a lot of work to simplify money. When in a world, for a lot of people, money is hard, we want to make it easy for you. Again, make sure to go to lewishouse.com slash money. I cannot wait for you to get this book.

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This is the book that I wish I had growing up when I was broke on my sister's couch. And it's the book I wish I had a couple of years ago because I still had a lot of anxiety and stress around money. I was making more, but it was kind of like... I still hadn't mastered it. And trust me, I have no way mastered it.

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I need this book now for myself more than ever as a reminder to keep in harmony with money, to have a beautiful relationship with money, to continue to heal and mend my relationship with money so that I feel financially peaceful and abundant every single day. Get your copy. The link will be right down below, pinned in the comment, in the description. Check it out.

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Please grab a few copies for your friends as well. And I can't wait to see you in the Money Mastermind class that we're going to be doing, the Money Mindset Masterclass. You'll get that when you get a copy. You'll upload your receipt. We'll send instructions on what to do there. Thank you again. And make sure to get your copy of Make Money Easy today.

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I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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I want you to understand a very important principle around money. And again, I've had the fortune of interviewing some of the wealthiest people in the world, billionaires, mega billionaires, multimillionaires, people who have exited hundreds of millions and billions dollars worth of companies. And I've asked poor people questions about what keeps them stuck.

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if you're looking to create financial peace, if you want more abundance, and if you're looking to go from where you are at your financial situation to creating way more, then I have a special surprise for you. Because for the last couple of years, I've been working behind the scenes, deep research, a lot of work on a brand new book that I'm announcing to you today. It is called Make Money Easy.

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I've asked wealthy people questions about what unlocks the keys to freedom in their finances. And it's been fascinating over the last 12 years, the research, the science, the practical tips and lessons I've been able to gain from interviewing all these individuals. Plus, in the book, I share so many stories about my own money problems.

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Yes, if this is your first time coming to me or you're new to this show, about, what was it, 15 years ago, I was broke on my sister's couch for a year and a half, making almost nothing, barely scrapping by. One point in my life, I was a truck driver making $250 a week, driving a truck six hours a day from Columbus, Ohio to Cincinnati, Ohio and back every day, five days a week.

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I bounced on the weekends for, you know, 10 bucks an hour and trying to get some tips at a nightclub. And I played arena football where I got paid $250 a week as well back in 2007. So I had many different seasons of life where I had no money, I was broke, and I had no clue how I was gonna make money.

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I didn't have a college degree when kind of the housing crisis crashed and the economy crashed in 2008, 2009. People weren't hiring during that time with those individuals that had bachelor's degrees and master's, let alone people like me who were sleeping on their sister's couch after getting an injury playing football. And I really just didn't have a lot of the tools.

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Now, I was lucky enough that my dad instilled some principles in me early on. And unfortunately, when I turned 22, my dad got into a pretty tragic car accident. He was in a coma for many months. And for 17 years, he never was able to work again. So I learned some lessons from him early on about the mindset of making money. And I watched him work so hard. Early on, we didn't have a lot of money.

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Then when I turned about 16, his business finally started to take off after 25 years of hard work. He started to make a little bit more money for five to seven years before his accident. And then he just wasn't himself. He wasn't able to work anymore. He lost his memory a lot and his personality shifted where he wasn't able to do much without the care of others for 17 years until he passed.

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But there was a big thing that he taught me early on. Not necessarily by what he said, but what he did. And I wanna share this with you because I think it's really important. And I'm gonna talk about kind of these principles in the book and how you can start to apply them in your life now so you don't have to just wait until the book comes out. But there was one thing he did early on

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Every time we went out to dinner or to a restaurant or, you know, he would take me out after a baseball game to buy ice cream with a local dairy point in Delaware, Ohio, small town in Ohio. And he would always do something that would just make people smile, bring so much joy to people's life for a moment. And it would give people a story. And something he did is he would always tip in $2 bills.

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He would tip in $2 bills. And it was like... It was like a magic trick every time he did this because I would see him tip or he'd put it in, you know, kind of the restaurant receipt thing where you put your money in and you fold it up. When the waiter would open it up and they would see $2 bill tip or multiple $2 bills, they would just light up. It was like...

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If they were having a horrible day, their energy shifted. It was literally like a magic trick. If you wanted to make someone smile, they would rather take a $2 bill than three, four, or five single dollar bills. It was like they would take less in money, but the experience... the joy that people would gain from a $2 bill was magic. And there was a mindset that he taught me.

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It's how can you be generous with your time? How can you be generous with your money? And a lot of the billionaires, a lot of the mega millionaires, there are some of them who are unhappy that stress out a lot. but there are others who just seem like they keep earning and they have a richness to their life. And when I asked them like, what is the secret to being rich and happy?

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And I cannot wait to get this book in your hands. Now, again, it's called Make Money Easy because for most of us, we make money hard. And if you want to create financial freedom and live a richer life, this is the book for you. And there's a few things I want to share with you today

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Because not all millionaires are happy. They might have money, but it doesn't make them rich in life. Can I ask the happy ones, the ones who are fulfilled in their purpose, the ones who have healthy, intact families still. And I'd ask them, you know, what's the key? And so many of them will tell me, be generous. Be generous with your money. Be generous in how you tip. Tip big.

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And I think what my dad taught me early on is something that I still do today. I carry on his legacy in my wallet. I have $2 bills. I tip with $2 bills. I've been doing it for a long time since his accident. And the joy that this brings people is priceless. You don't have to spend a ton of money to be generous, but you can do it in a generous way to create a moment for people.

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So again, the $2 bill tip strategy is one of the coolest things that you can do, something I've been doing since my early 20s. You don't need a ton of money to tip in twos, but it'll make someone's day much happier and richer in that moment. And you have the power to shift someone's energy by how you show up with your positive attitude, but also with just a creative act of generosity.

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So keep that in mind. It's one of the principles in this book, Make Money Easy. I'm going to talk about what that is. There's another thing I want to share with you. I was having a conversation with a friend the other day, and I asked him a simple question. If money was a person in your life, how would your relationship be with money? Now, I want you to think about this.

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When I asked this question to a friend, they said, well, if I was walking into a room and money was there as a person, I would not look at money. I would avoid it. I would ghost it if it tried to text me. I wouldn't reply to it, but I would use and abuse it. And I sat there and I just said, hmm. How do you think money feels if you use it in that way?

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If you ghost it, if you avoid it, if you don't look it in the eyes, if you don't talk about it, but when it's there, you're going to use it and abuse it. If you had a friend in your life that you treated that way, do you think that friend would enjoy that feeling? Probably not. And I want to ask you again, Leave a comment. If you're watching on YouTube, message me on Instagram.

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Let me know if money were a person, how would your relationship be with money? Tell me what your relationship is. And I just want you to think about that because money is energy. And the way you interact with money, how you interpret it, the way you feel about it when you see it,

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when it comes to you, when you have to pay it, when you look in your bank account, maybe you don't look in your bank account, how you think about it, when you talk about it, the energy, you either attract more of it or you're repelling it from you and causing more stress in your financial situation. So I want you to think about what your relationship is with money.

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And when you change your mindset around money, your entire life becomes richer. Again, we're talking about my book, Make Money Easy. This is not a book about investing. This is not a book about stock market. That's not what this is about. There are tons of books and resources out there. This is about developing a powerful, energetic relationship with money

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to cover around the book, but also the mindset shift that you need to change in order to unlock prosperity and abundance for your life. And some of the biggest interviews that we've done on the School of Greatness are around money. Why? Because money is such a big topic in our lives. And so many people feel the stress, they feel the strain, they feel the constraints of their money situation.

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so you feel peaceful when you talk about money, when you have money, when you don't have money, when you spend money, all these different things.

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So I wanna read you a few things that I think will be extremely important for you to know as you're getting this book, because I believe it doesn't matter what skills or what stock trades you know or where to invest your money or how to make more money in terms of like, I'm gonna get more money from my job, like all that is fine.

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But if you don't change your relationship with money, you're gonna create more stress when you have more money. And I've talked to a lot of millionaires who have lost it all, who have ruined their relationships, who have got extreme anxiety when they've created more money because they haven't done the most important thing first with money, which is change their relationship to it.

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And if you're tired of living paycheck to paycheck, I'm going to read a little bit of this right now for you. If you're tired of living paycheck to paycheck, or if you feel trapped by your monthly expenses, or if you wonder how some people enjoy financial freedom while you seem stuck, your relationship with money begins with having the right mindset because most of us don't have it.

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Until you heal your relationship with money, nothing can change for the better. Because if you don't care for your money, your money won't care for you. In this book, Make Money Easy, I'm going to show you how to identify your money style, which is a key to understanding why you are lacking abundance. Most of us have a money style, but we're just not aware of it.

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And your money style, it stems from your money story. We have a history of money in our lives, from what our parents talked about it, from how we used it in school. If our friends had more money than us, we had a story about money. And that story shapes our lives today with our money style.

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And so we're going to identify your money style so you can create a future money history that allows you to create more abundance in your life. Wouldn't that be awesome? Wouldn't it be great if we could understand our style so that we can shift it to create more? It's also going to teach you how to develop a powerful money mindset so that you can earn more.

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Most of us aren't thinking in ways of abundance. We're not thinking in terms of our self-worth being good enough to earn more money. We're just afraid of money. I asked another friend recently, they said they don't want to make more money because they'd be afraid they would turn into a bad person. And I said, why would you turn into a bad person?

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Well, because people that I know who have money, they're just stingy. They're not good with their money. They don't treat people well. And I don't wanna become out of integrity with money and do that to other people. And so again, this money mindset is keeping you trapped and holding you to a certain ceiling of how much you're able to make right now.

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And once you can break through that money mindset, which a whole book is about, once you can break through that, then you can start to create an enormous amount of financial peace in your life, And live in generosity. You don't have to be out of integrity. You don't have to be stingy when you make money. You don't have to be a bad person. Money is energy. And money amplifies who you are.

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So if you're a stingy, selfish person now, when you make more money, you're going to become more of that. If you're a generous, kind, joyful person now, you're going to amplify that energy into the world when you have more money. So it's about shifting our money perspective, our money mindset. But first you have to understand your money story, the history of your money.

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Then you have to understand your money style. Most of us don't know this. I cover everything about that in this book. Then you can create a powerful money mindset so you can earn more. But if you don't follow the steps, you're not gonna be able to get to the next level. You always fall back behind if you don't follow these steps.

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A lot of people are in debt so much from student loans still, where they've used their credit cards to the max and they feel this constant month to month, am I able to get out of this debt? In fact, our whole nation is in trillions of dollars of debt. It's kind of a mindset of getting the debt, getting the debt to get ahead, but For a lot of people, it doesn't turn out well.

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Then we talked about how to create a money map to reach clear financial goals. Most people aren't clear on how much they wanna make on a yearly basis. If you're not clear, why would you create more? If you just say, well, I just wanna make millions, well, Why? Why do you want to make those millions? How many millions? If you want to make a hundred grand, why do you want to make that?

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When do you want to make it by? You've got to clearly define your money map in order to reach your financial goals. We have it all in the book, Make Money Easy. Then we talk about how to appreciate your value and discover your hidden skills and gifts for greater earning potential. You know, when I was broke, I didn't think I had any skills.

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I was just like, there's no way I'm going to learn how to make money. I don't understand it. I didn't go to school for it. I don't know anything about taxes or interest or investments and just like what skills do I have that I can go get a job with? I thought I had nothing. I was just a football player who got injured. I didn't have any skills. I was in the bottom of my class in school.

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So I was terrified around money because I didn't understand it. But when you learn to appreciate your own value and tap into these hidden gifts, we talk about how to find those hidden gifts for extreme earning potential. I didn't know the gifts that I had would make me a millionaire, but they did. They did many times over.

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There are two big things happening at one time that I've never done before. I'm going on a book tour for my new book, Make Money Easy, and I'm doing a podcast tour at the same time. It is going to be big, and I'm going to seven cities in 10 days. Get your friends, get your family, bring everyone you know to these cities. I'm coming to Austin, Texas, New York, Boston, We're going to Nashville.

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That's fascinating. I, you know, when I decided, because it was a choice to get into a relationship with Martha. And when we got into a relationship, I told her kind of like a lot of these things that we're talking about where I was just like, listen. I've never made good decisions in previous relationships.

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And then I didn't have the courage to get out of them because I was afraid and I didn't want to hurt someone. So I stayed in things that weren't good for me. And it was just never good. And it doesn't mean they were bad people. We just weren't the right people together. And so I told her like, I want to take our time if we're going to do this.

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We're not going to sleep together, you know, which is not something that I'd done in the past. It was like kind of quick to rush to that. And that was one of the best things I did for like the kids in me.

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Was not sleeping with someone that I was dating, but trying my best to get to know all the parts of her. Her family life, her when she's happy, her when she's going through a challenge, you know, traveling together, all these different things as opposed to rushing into chemical bonding.

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Exactly, and I remember like... you know, and listen, we're only three and a half years into this. So it's like, we've got a long time ahead with our relationship with hopefully it's all good and it's all like smooth, but there's going to be challenges that we have to face.

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But I wanted to set myself up for the most harmony possible, knowing that life is going to throw challenges at us individually and together. How can we create a relationship of harmony and peace where we both have nervous systems that are calm, nervous systems that are okay, independent of each other and stronger together, hopefully.

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but I'm not reliant on her for my happiness, which I think I never had before. I was always reliant on the other people to like me or accept me and people pleasing them. And it feels so freeing to experience for the first time after 20 years of painful relationships, peace and freedom in a relationship. Like I didn't even, I didn't think it was possible. I didn't know it was possible.

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And it feels amazing to, at least up in this point, have experienced this for a number of years. So I'm very grateful for that.

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Thank you. Thank you. But I remember thinking to myself, I don't need to be in a relationship. Like I'm not going to jump in a relationship until I feel that consistently from a dating phase without sexual intimacy.

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that was it's hard i mean i'm like you know my young guy it's like it's hard to say no to those things but by creating that boundary for me it's like i've built respect for myself and about trust within my nervous system and the parts of me and it has allowed me to trust myself in the relationship more than ever before oh it's wonderful and i feel like it sounds like that's what you've been doing the last five years is reclaiming trust yeah within yourself

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that you're not going to abandon yourself. And when you do get into another relationship you're not going to abandon or people-please who you are. And it doesn't mean you're going to be avoidant either. Like you're going to be securely connected to the person because you're securely connected to you. That's what it sounds like you're building.

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Wow. When did you bring God in your life?

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Is God in 12-step recovery or is it more? Oh, yeah.

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And you don't have God in your life as like the faith or the trust or the knowingness of it. Then you find everything else to be your God, I guess, or to fill that void. Yeah.

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Wow. Do you feel a lot more peace now with God in your life?

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Yeah. I mean, you've talked publicly about kind of your love life and your relationships and books and, you know, talks and everything. You said you were married and divorced twice. What did you learn after the first marriage into the second marriage?

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Yeah, not being afraid constantly. Oh, my God.

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That's good. So 40, 45 kind of intimate loving relationships or sexual relationships.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many of these relationships... I love myself. No judgment here. No, I don't feel it. How many of the relationships you've been in had God at the core or the center?

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How many... In the future, do you feel like God will be... In the relationship in some way?

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That's a beautiful life. Isn't it? With every relationship like that. Because then you're not feeling judged or you don't have to people please, you don't have to impress. You know, obviously you got to create boundaries and you have to communicate and you have to, you know, stand up for yourself, but you don't have to worry about what happens when God is at the center.

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God is going to have your back no matter what.

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When do we make a decision that I'm going to choose to love this person? We don't make a decision.

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What would you say are three or four things that individuals could do today to enter a relationship in the best way possible to give them a chance for happy, healthy, long-term love? How much time do we have?

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Yeah, and if you want to jackhammer it two years in the future because you don't like the way it's laid down, that's going to cause real damage. And it's hard to mend that. It's not like the Japanese saying where they break a bowl and it's like golden. Kintsugi, that's Kintsugi. It's not that.

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This is like you're breaking a road and you're breaking a path and you have to almost create a bridge once you break it two years later. And that person has to want to go over that bridge every time. And that's for each thing. Yeah.

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This is interesting. I'm so glad you're saying this because we've known each other for how long? Eight years maybe or something like that? I don't know. Eight, nine years. And we're not super close talking all the time, but you've seen me go through three different relationships in the last eight years.

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And you've seen me kind of show up differently in this relationship based on what we've talked about. And there are things that I did differently, I think, because... One, a lot of the wisdom I gained from you and other different therapists and psychologists that came on that I was able to learn from.

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Two, I was doing a lot of my own healing work in the practice every week with someone that was helping guide me to heal in my last relationship and going to this new one.

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And three, because I was just sick and tired of experiencing so much pain and sadness and suffering in relationships, like the pattern that I was choosing, that I was like, I need to do something completely different than I've always done. Whether this works out or not, I have to just try something completely different. And I felt like what I've done has really worked well for me.

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I don't know if it'll work well from everyone, but it sounds like I'm doing what you're saying people should be doing, which is entering a relationship in a way that is going to lay the cement and the foundation for the whole relationship and really doing it early on, not waiting.

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So a few things that I did with Martha and we did together is when we started dating, I said, listen, I'm going to be... We're going to date each other, but I'm not going to have sex with you. That's one of the first things I said. It's not happening. Where, you know, that wasn't the case in previous relationships. So that's the first thing.

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I was like, I want to get to know someone without chemical interference. You know, without sexual chemical interference. That was always blurring me, you know, in the past. That was the first thing. And it's almost like we got to know each other as friends. And you kind of hear people who are married a long time or happy. They're like, yeah, we were friends early on.

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Or like we were just in a friendship first. And then it grew into something because we really loved each other, right? You hear that a lot. Not that that's always the case. But that was what we did. And I think that was really helpful for me to see all the parts of her and say, do I accept all the parts of her? And maybe I don't have to like all the parts, but can I accept it?

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Because she's not going to change who she is. Maybe. But this is pretty much who she is. And I was able to see clearly, I accept all the parts of her to get into a committed relationship after a few months, right? Of us spending a lot of time together, traveling together, seeing her family. All the things we did early on, I was like, I put myself in those situations.

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Friends, family, travel before getting committed. And that was really helpful. It was kind of like a year cycle and a few months. The next thing that I did was, is I told her the truth about everything. And from my past, what I've done in my past, things I was proud of, not proud of, everything. And I told her my vision for my future.

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And I said, this is the man I am now, this is the man I'm growing into, and this is the man I wanna be in my vision for my life, my career, my family, everything. And I'm not gonna change it for one person to make one person happy. You've got to accept this part of me, and I want to know what your vision is for your life and see if we're in alignment.

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Obviously, things might change and evolve, but if that's what you want, I want to be accepting of your vision for your life and you accepting of mine. And that was really helpful. And then we also did a values exercise. I never created a values exercise in any relationship before. It was like, oh, we like each other and you're beautiful and you like me and whatever. We're having fun.

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Let's just be together. But we went on a trip and I said, I want to do a values exercise and get clear on what you really value around family, friendships, money, time, everything, raising kids. Like, what are the values in your life that you have? And we wrote them separately and then looked at them together. There wasn't any influence. And we were in alignment on our values, which was helpful.

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And so having that clarity of kind of like no chemical interference around sexual acts to values to this is a vision of my life. This is my lifestyle. This is what I want to create. Do you accept it? Because if you don't, I'm not changing for you. And we were able to get an alignment. And that doesn't mean it's all going to be perfect and it's like it's going to work out.

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But that created a foundation, the pavement you were talking about, where we were like, okay, let's cement this. Let's start to mold it and start to let it dry now that we are in agreement of these things with each other. And there was one other thing that we did that I'd always wanted to do. because I'd always ended every relationship in therapy and then it ended.

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And I said, I want to start my next relationship in therapy. If that's with you or someone else, like I'm not getting in a relationship unless someone else is willing to agree to have a session once every six weeks with someone where we can get clarity on agreements, because there was never agreements and relationships that were clear and that people stuck to.

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And I was like, I want agreements so that if there's a disturbance, we can create an agreement quickly so there's less disturbances. And she was like, yeah, sounds great. I'm in. Those things that we created from the beginning have given me so much peace. You asked me, like, how are you feeling before the interview? I was like, I felt pretty peaceful.

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And it's because I've never been in a relationship where I feel fully accepted for me. And I feel that. So I have the energy to go out in life and tackle what I want. And it's been really beneficial. But I went through, you know, 20-something years of pain and suffering in choosing relationships without having the courage to do these kind of activities early on.

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And I don't know if that's something that you would recommend for all people. It took a lot of work. It takes time. It's like you can't rush into something. But it's given me a lot more peace in this relationship. So...

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Yeah. I mean... What is the big mistake that people are making today then in relationships by entering the relationship? Is it they haven't healed from the previous one? And can you enter a new relationship while being wounded from the previous one? Or do you need to be on some type of healing journey to set yourself up for a better opportunity, do you think?

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That's true. Dry, peaceful land. Abundant, fertile land that you're just like, ah. No, it doesn't mean there's not going to be challenges and life's going to throw things at you. But I think if you're in it together and you're able to create agreements early on, then it just doesn't mean you have to have a lot of disturbances within the relationship.

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There might be things coming at the relationship that you need to handle together. But when we're in disagreement constantly about each other or what's wrong with the other person and what they didn't do or what they didn't do for me. then it's just going to be a weaker foundation, I think, when you don't have agreements.

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And there was nothing wrong in the relationship early on. It does not have to be to learn good habits. I know, it was amazing. But it takes time and investment. I told her, I was like, I don't think I'd have been ready for you if I'd met you 10 years ago. I wouldn't have seen you the same way. I wouldn't have been... I didn't have the tools or the skills to deal with my emotions.

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I was still healing. I was still growing. And I was doing my interview show and I had resources. But I think a lot of people don't have the tools or the skills to have the courage to speak up for what they want, to navigate challenges in a relationship when they feel their button is pushed and they're just reactive. They don't know how to respond calmly because they're in fight or flight.

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I've been there many times in the past. It's a massive problem for people. They don't have the tools. How do you see the younger generation, people in their 20s or 30s, being able to get into relationships and have these tools if they've never been trained. It took me a long time to have a lot of pain to be like, okay, I need to learn something different.

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Yeah. I mean, you can't just be disrespectful and say, well, this is who I am. Accept me for being disrespectful to you.

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And I think it's also important to know like, hey, before you get into a relationship, make sure you find out. If this is the way they are and they're not going to change that, maybe they're not for you.

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No, I think it's really important. I think I probably over communicated more in the first year, probably out of... trauma from the past of like, okay, this is really who I am. And this is my truth. And I just want to make sure you're okay with this. Yeah.

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About 20 times. She's like, you were really traumatized in the past. I'm like, I just want to make sure you know who I am. All my flaws, all my past, where I'm at, where I'm going, this is what I want. You sure you're good. It's like kind of mile markers, right? You got to lay the cement. It's like every mile marker. Okay, you're still on the same path.

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Make sure you're in alignment because it's not worth me being like... I'm invested. And then you want me to change who I am. So I think you got to be willing to accept the person and make sure you figure out all their behaviors or as much as you can within the first six to 12 months before you take the long road with them and say, all right, am I down for this journey?

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If it's a little bumpy, am I cool with it? Or don't choose the person. If they have bad behavior over and over, you don't have to choose them. If they're not going to change, like you either accept it and that's it. But you had this on your, I think this is on your website as well, a quote from you that said, mental health is about diagnosable conditions like depression and anxiety.

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Emotional health is about common experiences like loneliness, failure, and heartbreak, the non-diagnosable stuff. And you also mentioned that you grew up, another quote from you is you said, I grew up with my identical twin, which of course made me an expert in spotting favoritism.

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So when I became a psychologist, it didn't take me long to recognize how much we favor our physical health over our emotional health. For example, if we get a cut on our arm, we can just tell by looking at it whether we need a badge, a stitch, or an ambulance. But when we sustain an emotional wound like rejection, failure, we have no idea how to gauge whether the wound is deep or

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or whether it requires emotional first aid. And a few of us would know how to treat it ourselves if we did. And as a psychologist, you find that unacceptable. You said, our physical health and our emotional health are the twins of our general well-being. And as such, we should treat them equally. How can we start to self-diagnose the emotional wounds that we deal with?

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And how can we know when we are having a symptom of an emotional wound that is worthy of a deeper look rather than just a quick rub it off or a band-aid?

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So for feeling, what would that nagging feeling look like for someone if it's an emotional wound? Is it a physical sensation internally? Is it like their chest is tight or their... It's a preoccupation, probably, and it's a mood, probably.

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What's an exercise that someone can do if they feel rejected or feel like someone hurt them, whether it was intentional or not? Right.

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It is, but that's the problem. When we think about a memory of trauma that we have yet to heal, and we relive that in our mind, is it almost just like we're living that moment all over again?

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Why do so many people take it personally when they get rejected in a dating situation or relationship?

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It almost sounds like before you start dating or getting into a relationship, one of the best things that you can do for yourself is build your self-esteem, is what it sounds like. Because when you have a quality or high level of self-esteem, you're not going to get into a relationship that's not good for you.

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You're not going to stay in one where someone's treating you poorly or not respecting your boundaries, or you're not going to take the scraps of something because you're just lonely, right? So building self-esteem sounds like a great... foundation for the individual before even getting into a relationship? It is doing.

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Give me an example for yourself. For me? Yeah, what's a good quality that comes with a downside?

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When they're sad and like, yeah, whatever. Yeah.

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Why do you think people struggle with emotional regulation, not just in life, but even heightened more in relationships? And how can someone learn to regulate their emotions in a relationship if they've been so used to reacting in fight or flight mode for so long? What do you think is a process they can start? I'll have you start and then we'll have you add to it, Sadia.

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Why do we select that person more?

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What is this quote? I'm sure you both have heard this. If they can't accept me at my worst, they don't deserve me at my best. What do you guys think about that saying in relationships?

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So I can't emotionally punch on them all day long and then say, well, you have to deal with my emotions.

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You should be able to. I mean, you're worst as a child. I'm assuming you're going to scream and throw tantrums constantly. But then hopefully you learn how to develop your emotions and navigate your emotions so that you can be frustrated or have a breakdown, but not. trash on someone. Yeah, not punish someone. Not punish someone and say, you're doing this to me, right?

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It's like learning how to, you know, maybe you need to step away or maybe you're going to get loud for a moment, but you're not going to attack someone else.

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Right now, yeah. Yeah, right now I would. I mean, I'm good right now, but yeah. I would tolerate me. In my past, maybe not.

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Why is it so hard to leave a relationship when... after many years, when someone treats you poorly or they have dysregulation frequently, let's call it on a weekly basis or every other day, it seems like dysregulation or this type of emotional, I don't know if you wanna call it abuse or- Rollercoaster. Rollercoaster emotions, lack of respect. Why would you say, Matthew,

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it's so hard to leave a relationship. The relationship is failing. It's not healthy, but people tend to stay. In your work that you do with a lot of women, why do women stay so long? Maybe there's kids or not kids involved, but why do women stay and how can they start to shift to make it healthier or get out of it in a healthy way?

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Or was in the beginning.

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Why does it seem like it's easier as a girlfriend or a guy friend of a person in a struggling relationship? Why is it easy for them to see, man, this has been two years you've been in this pattern, this loop of up and down emotional rollercoaster and it doesn't seem healthy when it's so hard for the person in the relationship to... Realize man, this is broken.

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This is not working, but I'm gonna keep trying to make it work I'm gonna keep trying to get that clock to hit the right time every minute Why do why is it so hard for people to understand they're in a broken relationship?

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What do you think are the things, and we're talking about why relationships fail, but what do you think are the things that people don't do before committing to the relationship that end up causing it to be just a rocky foundation to start with, which is destined to fail? What are the things that women do or men do that you think set up a rocky foundation? I'll let you start.

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What are some examples of deal breakers that people don't communicate?

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And what do you think are the biggest deal breakers for people? Would you say it's sex or topics around sex, money and topics around money, family, kids, religion, or something else? God, I suppose it could be anything depending on the person.

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Or is it just literally like we could have three things that are right, but if we have two that are off, like eventually it's gonna be harder to make it work? Like, what do you think?

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Why do we not communicate deal breakers and things that are actually really important before committing to the relationship?

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And then you resent the person for not giving you what you need, that you haven't communicated it.

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From the group? No, no, no.

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Sure, sure. How do you then, let's say you go through, you accept that you're a love addict, right? And maybe someone watching and listening is like, maybe I have some of these tendencies, right? And I've heard you talk about in the beginning of this conversation about how, you know, there's this love that you're connecting with every single day and asking it, what would you want of me?

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What would you have me know today?

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And you have this new relationship with love, right? but a lot of people feel undeserving of receiving love. So if you don't feel like you're deserving of having love or being loved or receiving it, how do you have a new relationship with it where you can let it into your life?

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Or you just see bad things in the world and you say, how could this be? If God is all love, how do these bad things happen? You'll question that.

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That's funny. I still ask my mom, why questions? And she says she stopped answering why questions.

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So I'm like, why'd you do this, mom? And she goes, I stopped answering your why questions. I'm not accepting your question. Ask me a different question.

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What is the best thing you've heard from God over the last four years?

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Those that were only thinking about themselves, not helping others, had more physical pain and ailments based on the stressful environment. Whereas those who were focusing out, that started to go away. And for me, that says something about how service is truly important in our lives. How about number four? is a big one, something I do all the time, is to express gratitude and appreciation.

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This may seem like so basic. This may seem like the dumbest thing because it's so simple, but it will transform and change your life. And when we appreciate everything that we already have, not focusing on all the things that we don't have, but appreciate the things we already have, it puts us in a mindset of abundance, rather than scarcity.

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And this is huge because gratitude drowns out negativity and it brings positivity into our lives. It puts us into perspective in the moment of what is meaningful, what we have created, what we have, the people in our life right now. And we can channel that positive energy into everything we're doing and we can shift that positive energy into our vision and our mission.

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And I can't speak for everyone, but gratitude has been life-changing for me. It's something, again, that I do every day. It's non-negotiable. When I wake up, it's on my voicemail. When someone calls me, I say, tell me what you're grateful for and I'll get back to you. In our team meetings, we talk about it. When we start a meeting, what are you grateful for today?

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It's just something when I go to bed at night, I express three things I'm grateful for. All these things help me continue to stay in the present moment, not focused on the past of what I did or how mistakes I made, not worry about the future, but really be present. And that's the key to being happy is focusing on what you have right now and the people in your life.

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And many of the psychologists that I've interviewed on this show tell me that gratitude is proven to create a happier life. This isn't just some fluffy woo-woo, you know, personal development thing. This is now science. It's been researched. It's been studied and proven that gratitude decreases depression, increases happiness in people's lives.

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So don't let gratitude be something you just do from time to time or once in a while or on a holiday or Thanksgiving. You need to find time and place to do it every single day. And the more you do it, the more frequently you do it, the happier you healthier, more fulfilled you will be. And it'll put your life in perspective.

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It'll get you out of the things you don't have and focus on things you do have. The simplest way to do that is just to add gratitude to the start of something you're already doing. We talked about this, what will I do? We do it before team meetings. You could do it while you're making coffee. You could do it right before you eat every meal. You could do it

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What we think, what we speak about, the actions we take, and the cycle continues every single day. And whatever we think, speak, and the actions we do on a daily basis, that becomes our habits, whether we're conscious or unconscious. And going into 2025, I want you to live a conscious life. I want you to think in a conscious way. I want you to speak in a way that

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When you wake up, when you go to bed, whatever you're about to start something, have a moment. It could be five seconds. I'm grateful for this moment. I'm grateful for this thing. I'm grateful I have this. And really be intentional on that. Spend a few minutes and use that time wisely to express gratitude. For me, again, I wake up every morning. I express the things that I'm grateful for.

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I really just wake up and say thank you. Thank you for another day. Thank you for my health. Thank you for the people in my life. Thank you for the challenging times that have helped me grow and improve myself. I try to just say thank you for it all. And that really supports me in the day. And you'll be able to love deeper. You'll create more light for other people.

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And you'll appreciate the little things around you more than ever. I'm telling you, a ritual of gratitude will change your life. Again, it seems so basic. It might seem like so, you know, this is not some crazy life hack or some thing, some app or something that's going to switch something on in your brain. This is just going back to the basics to help you improve your happiness.

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Habit number five is to create healthy relationships with boundaries. I didn't know what a boundary was until really a few years ago in certain areas of my life. And personal boundaries are essential in healthy relationships because they provide the foundation for your expectations, behavior, and how you communicate with others.

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Sometimes setting the limits can be challenging and difficult, especially if you want everyone to be happy around you. Now raise your hands if you are a recovering people pleaser like me and you want everyone to like you, you want everyone to be happy around you, you don't want anyone to ever be mad at you for anything.

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That's been me pretty much my entire life up until recently when I learned how to create healthy boundaries and know that I'm going to disappoint people. But the most important person that I'm not going to disappoint is myself. And I was always abandoning myself to try to please others, and I was hurting myself in the process. And you should never hurt yourself.

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You obviously don't want to hurt others, but you should never hurt yourself. And we often react differently when we don't get what we want or when what is happening around us isn't what we expected, when that expectation kind of hangover happens to us. Results in frustration or hurt feelings. I know. I know the feeling. You expect someone to say something or do something. They don't do it.

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You get let down, it hurts. That's why communication is so important. And whether it's an intimate relationship, a family member, a business relationship, when the boundaries we have set are not met, we feel violated. Or for myself, I felt abused, taken advantage of, and all these different things. And that doesn't feel good. I understand those. feelings. They don't feel good.

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So when you create a standard, create a boundary, you've got to communicate and talk about your expectations in that communication process. Sometimes this can be extremely challenging and difficult conversations, especially if you've never done in the past. And oftentimes boundaries are not discussed and that can cause bitterness and resentment.

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And to take the proactive approach by discussing boundaries with your partner You can avoid a lot of that pain and stress and disaster. So I highly encourage you to be willing to be uncomfortable in those boundary conversations. And I loved this moment that I had when I interviewed Nedra Tawwab. And she said she was she's like the boundary expert.

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And she said, when we think about boundaries, we think about them as something with someone else. But a boundary could be a morning routine. A boundary could be having some quiet time after lunch. It's not just all these things that we need other people to do. It's also what we need to do with ourselves. And I think it's... so important for us to reflect on.

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unlocks possibilities for you and creates opportunities as opposed to breakdowns and barriers. And then I want you to act in accordance with your highest self. Now, this doesn't mean you've got to be perfect every single moment of every day. You've got to cut out every vice you have or any fun experience that brings you joy and live up to some ultimate perfection habit formula.

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What are the boundaries we're keeping with ourselves? Not about significant others or family or friends. What are the boundaries of integrity you're keeping with yourself? So think about that for yourself and the boundaries you want to set in the specific relationships in your life. And really, are any of them being crossed already?

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What are the places in your life where you feel like boundaries are already being crossed? Make a list. Write these down. And are you not respecting the boundaries yourself? Are you crossing boundaries that you shouldn't be crossing with someone else in your life? It's a difficult thing to do, especially if you've never really thought about them.

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But when I began setting boundaries in my life, as well as started to hear about the importance of them from different therapists and psychologists that we've interviewed on the show, it made a huge difference. in my emotional, mental, physical wellbeing as well.

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Because really, when you think about boundaries, you know, when an emotional, mental, spiritual boundary feels crossed, you almost feel it in your body. I know I did. I would feel tightness, tension. I would have like eczema flare-ups when a boundary was crossed, and I didn't know how to handle it. And you feel the boundary being crossed emotionally and it physically manifests.

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So this will continue to help you be happier and physically healthier when you create boundaries. Which leads me into habit number six, which is to take care of your physical health. Work out, eat clean, physical and mental health. The emotional and mental stress can...

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can really lean into the physical damage if we don't have a clean, healthy relationship with the mental and emotional side of ourselves, creating boundaries and all that other stuff. But taking care of your body consistently, moving your body, exercising is so important for your overall physical and mental health.

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We've had so many different experts come on and talk about the research and the science of how physical movement increases happiness, increases dopamine, makes you feel more confident, all these things. Being stagnant for two weeks and not moving your body will make you feel less and less confident, make you feel weak, and all those different feelings will create stress and anxiety in your life.

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When you don't exercise, you're not giving your body the clarity it needs. It's not cleansing itself. It's not moving. And you've got to move in order to get you closer towards your desired goals as well. So you've got to think about these things. What does your body need? It's something that I've started talking about more and more as I've started to integrate this more and more in my life.

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And I started taking boxing lessons online. a couple times a week, six months ago, and it's transformed my physical and mental health. You might have to reassess, like, are the physical activities I'm doing right now supporting me? Or do I need to mix it up? Do I need to try something new? Do I need a new challenge? That's what I did with boxing. I've been able to lift and run and

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and play sports my whole life, but I felt like I needed something to shift me physically, and boxing was something I'd never done, something that was challenging, it's mental, it's emotional and physical, and it's one of the hardest workouts I've ever done.

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So I go early in the morning and I do that because that's been huge for me because it means I can take care of the most important and often the hardest things first, which set up the rest of my day for success. And when I finish a workout early in the morning, And I realized, wow, there's still a lot of people that are asleep who haven't gotten up, who haven't done anything.

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That's not what I'm talking about because that's not the way I live my life. But I do know that there is a price to pay for every decision I make with the way I think, how I speak, and the actions I take. There is a consequence to everything. And that could be a benefit or a side effect of a negativity based on those things as well.

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And I'm finishing one of the hardest things of the day for me that brings me joy, that makes me a better human, that makes me feel more confident, makes me feel happier, that detoxes things that I need to let go of. When I do that, I feel like, wow, what's next? What is there that I need to do? I can do anything. Bring it to me. I will take on the world today.

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And when you start the day with that momentum, I really support you with your overall happiness. Now, if you're not often physically active, don't overwhelm yourself and say, I'm going to do two hours a day of activity and I'm going to go crazy here and I'm going to sign up for all these classes because you'll burn out quick or you'll hurt yourself.

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You can start as small as just going for a 10, 20 minute walk around the block. five days a week, and really get started. Just get yourself moving on the process of consistency. And even if you're making small progress, that progress is signaling your brain of the changes that you are wanting to make.

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And again, five, 10, 20 minutes a day will eventually be 30 or 60 minutes a day, and it'll continue to build and compound over time. So don't overwhelm yourself by thinking you have to go extremely crazy right off the bat, and I'm going to eat perfect seven days a week, I'm going to train like a machine, and

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I'm going to get 12 hours of sleep and all these things, you're probably not going to be able to sustain that within two weeks. But getting started and being consistent is the key. So anything is better than nothing when it comes to moving your body. And the next thing is really to focus on your diet.

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I know when I'm not eating clean consistently, I kind of take the 80-20 approach for nutrition and food. 80% of the time, I try to eat as clean and healthy and organic as possible. 20% of the time, I'm traveling the weekends. I have more sugar and desserts and things that I know aren't the best for fuel for my body. But they taste good, and I give myself that balance.

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And you can work out all you want, but you can't outwork your mouth. That's for sure. You cannot outwork your mouth. You can train for an hour, and then if you're having all this cakes and cookies, it's not going to do anything for you. you're actually not doing any favors for yourself. You might be maintaining, but you're not really improving.

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And our guests all the time talk about eating things like... I've asked so many different scientists, doctors, and nutritionists about the top food you should be eating. And they all consistently say blueberries, foods that are high in omega-3 fatty acids like salmon and walnuts and avocado oil, dark chocolate. The list goes on and on from there. Leafy greens, all that stuff. But...

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Eating more of those things, adding more of those things into your body will support you. And you don't want to put in so much effort in your workout routine and then just go have alcohol and sugar and pizza every night. That's not going to really support your growth.

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You can have cheat meals in moderation, or you can just call it balanced meals in moderation if you don't want to call it cheat meals. I do the balanced 80-20 kind of percent rule.

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And you just got to ask yourself, are you happy with the life you have right now? Are you happy with how you've created it? And if you're looking to take back full power in your life, then you must be responsible for the conscious decisions you're making and the unconscious decisions you're making because you have an opportunity to evaluate every single day. Hey, was that thinking process?

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And having a clean diet will not, but having a clean diet will not only serve you physically and your health, but also in your mental health, because we've talked about so many different experts who have come on and share that the foods that actually increase your mental health and affect your mood. We've had a lot of these different doctors and nutritionists come on and talk about that.

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And when you're eating poorly, it can increase the feelings of depression, anxiety, and stress. And I believe we're starting to really understand more about how much our diet really affects us, how much food really can either hurt us or heal us.

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So for your future self, it's best if you focus not only on putting your body through the workouts, but also giving your body the cleanest foods possible to eat. Which brings me to habit number seven, the power of breathing. This is something that I really started to practice in sports.

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but didn't start to really learn how to, I wouldn't say I call myself a master at this, but I really didn't start to learn how to master breathing until five years ago when I went to India to study for two weeks meditation and then becoming a meditation instructor.

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And then from there, meeting with Wim Hof and doing the Wim Hof breathing techniques, then interviewing James Nestor, talking about breathing, Andrew Huberman, The famous neuroscientist from Stanford who talks about breathing in the brain and how it connects to the brain and the body connection.

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And really, the deeper I've gone down this rabbit hole of learning about the mastery of breathing and applying it to myself, I've noticed incredible results. And it's like I'm noticing it quicker and quicker. So it's been really helping me improve my peace, improve my mental health, improve my mood just with breathing. And that is a powerful tool. You don't need...

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Anything you don't need to buy anything. You don't need to Eat anything. You don't need to do anything different in a few moments. You can change the way you feel through your breath and breathing is the number one way to give your mind a reset and and to get you back into a balanced, peaceful state.

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When you're nervous, stressed out, feeling overwhelmed, or catching yourself overthinking something or over-analyzing, breathing exercises can help you get back to calm and control. And that's what this is all about. The power of breath is that it lets you steer your energy. It lets you get back onto habit number one, your vision, as opposed to being distracted, stressed, and overwhelmed.

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And I did this as an athlete. I would do this going up for big moments in a game in football. Breathe slowly. You know, I had different sports psychologists come on and talk about how in practice you want to actually get yourself up and practice like it's a game. And when you're in a game time situation, you want to slow down because you have so much adrenaline. You want to calm and slow down.

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So I do that as an athlete before I get on stage. Right before, I really tried to think about how do I slow it down because I know when the lights turn on, when the music gets on, I'm gonna be hyped, I'm gonna be pumped. But how do I slow down so I can communicate my message effectively as opposed to being all anxious and excited about it?

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Was that speaking process? Was those actions actually helping me today or not? Did that serve me? Or did it give me anger and upset and lower my energy? And so every day you have an opportunity to reflect. And when you reflect, and even just do a simple scale, one out of 10, how did I show up today? Am I happy with the day? And if not, then what can I do to improve?

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So I wanna share three steps to properly help yourself incorporate breathing into your day today. Number one is to bring awareness to your breath. So really just think about it and bring awareness. And when we're breathing all the time, All day long we're breathing, but we're rarely paying attention to it. We hardly really think about it.

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But when we think about it by taking a moment to bring your awareness to your breath, just as it is, you can get out of your head and into the present moment. So when you're focused on breathing, and that's all you focus on, and see how it feels in your body, see how it feels in your mind and your heart and see how it's naturally calming your heart rate.

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You can actually feel your heart rate go down and you put your attention on that activity for 60 seconds. You can eliminate other distractions by putting attention on that and get back into a rhythm that will help you in that moment. And this habit is great for when you catch yourself Over analyzing things, stressed, anxious, worried, uncertain about the future.

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Just turn your focus back to your breath and temporarily let go of any other stress. The second part is to focus on and lengthen your exhale. This is something I learned in India when I went there five years ago. They take inhales through the nose. And whatever the time amount through the nose, they teach you to practice twice as long exhale out of the nose.

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So if you're taking an inhale for two counts in the nose, four counts out of the nose. And by repeating that process, it'll calm your heart rate. It'll calm your mind and get you back into a peaceful state. And you just repeat that process over and over again. Or it could be four inhale and eight out, three inhale, six out. The exhale is just as important, if not more important than your inhale.

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So drawing out your exhale will slow your heart rate down and again bring you into a calmer state of mind. And number three is to use a deliberate sigh. So Dr. Andrew Huberman, who is a neuroscientist from Stanford who's been on the show a couple of times, showed me an exercise that involves breathing with a double intake and an extended exhale.

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So still the same extended exhale, but a double intake. And by doing this exercise for just two or three cycles can really help you calm down. And it also expands the oxygen level in your body as well. And I urge you to try it a few times during the day when you feel overwhelmed. I've been doing this a lot since he taught me. It's simply you breathe through the nose with a double inhale like this.

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So a double inhale. and twice in a long exhale that way. By doing that a few times, it really opens up the oxygen level, calms you at the same time, so practice that a couple times throughout the day. Habit number eight, this is huge. Again, this is no secret, this is no crazy hack, It's just sleep more. Sleep more. Recover.

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These 11 habits will set you up to create health and happiness and abundance. And the first step is really figuring out what is it that I want? What is my vision? What is the day that I want to have? What is the month? And what is the year that I want to have? And when you can get clear on this vision, then you can start mastering the art of breathing.

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Your body is going through so much every single day, especially in the last 20 years with all the data and information we are consuming from our smartphones, from computers. We're getting so many data points every day. The body needs more rest. We're working harder. We're trying to be more productive. We're trying to squeeze the juice out of life more, whether it's play, work.

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relationships we're squeezing more juice out of life and we need proper sleep to recover and we're staying up till 2 or 3 a.m and feeling exhausted from the day and anxious about tomorrow then we're going to be in a a sleep deficit and we need to get back on track with that with our sleep so here's a few ways to start getting better sleep Number one, stick to a sleep schedule as often as you can.

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Now this can be hard if you're traveling, I get it, but as often as you can, try to go to bed at the same time. Proper sleep recovers and refreshes your mind so the next day can be stress-free.

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But it's important to say, okay, I'm gonna be in bed by 10 every night or 11 every night or whatever that time is for you so you have a schedule so you know you're gonna get the certain amount of hours you need. Number two, pay attention to your diet that day. Try not to have big heavy meals before sleeping and also try to limit your caffeine intake after I would say 10 a.m. to noon.

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You don't really wanna have caffeine after that. The research has shown it's gonna make it harder for you to go to sleep at night. So number three is creating a peaceful environment for your sleep is crucial. My friend Shawn Stevenson talks about this in his book, Sleep Smarter, that you wanna create a sleep sanctuary.

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You wanna make sure that your bedroom where you sleep is a sanctuary for you to shut off and go to sleep. And that can be hard for some of us as we work from home, we sleep at home, we work, we've got a lot of activities happening in the same place.

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It's hard to really shut it off when you're used to picking up your phone in the morning or being on your phone at night, watching TV in bed, or doing all these other things in your sleeping space. But you want to create a sleep sanctuary. You want to create a routine that helps you separate yourself from the other areas of your life

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like taking a bath it'll help you rest and recover better so what is the routine what is the sanctuary that you're going to create the environment of peaceful restful sleep it's one of the most important things you can do and as an athlete i used to sleep a ton i knew the importance of sleep because your body would be so sore we would take naps we would sleep as much as we could i used to sleep in as long as i could to get that quality sleep as a business leader when i'm traveling

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I know now I'm not 21 anymore. I know the importance of my sleep. Even if I get two or three hours less sleep than I'm used to, it will affect me. I'll need more caffeine. There'll be other things you'll need to supplement.

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So it's important to know that if you are living a high-performance life, if you are trying to squeeze the juice out of life, if that's the season of life you're in right now, you've got to make sleep a huge priority for yourself so you have the energy, the focus, and the clarity to move towards your vision. Habit number nine, oh, this is a big one.

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It's a big one, because a lot of people don't like to do this, is to take responsibility for yourself, for your actions, and keep yourself accountable. Now, it's easy to be the victim. It's easy to say, make excuses for yourself, and say, well, I didn't want to do this, I wasn't feeling this, or this thing happened, or this circumstance happened.

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but you cannot negotiate your dreams and your goals. You cannot negotiate with your goals through circumstances or excuses. That will make you unhappy. It's up to you to take responsibility for your life, and you have to decide today that you're going to get in shape, that you're gonna start that side hustle or that business, that you're gonna take on a new hobby.

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You can start mastering the art of incorporating these habits in a powerful way. And I'm going to share personal stories and give scientific insights about how these practices have shaped my journey and my happiness.

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Whatever it may be for you, you've gotta decide, and only you can decide to take that first step, and then, most importantly, be consistent on those steps day after day, week after week, year after year. But the next step that matters just as much is being held accountable for the goals in front of you. That is important. The accountability is so key.

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And you need to create a habit of checking in with someone on a daily or weekly basis that can hold you accountable and call you out if you're falling short. An accountability partner could be a friend for you, could be a family member, could be a coworker, Could be a coach that you hire. Could just be someone you pay as an accountability person to check on you daily.

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Whatever it is for you, accountability is key. And the effects of accountability are strongest when you and your partner have similar goals so you can grow together with them. It's huge when you guys have that common goal. Just having one accountability partner can do wonders for you. Just one person to hold you accountable, to give you checks and balances.

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But you can also consider surrounding yourself with a team, a community of people who inspire you and hold you accountable. I hire lots of coaches. And personally, I try to find the experts in every area of my life, hire them to hold me accountable for what is important to me. Only what is important to me, I have them do.

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If it's not important and it's not part of your vision, it's not part of your overall life plan, then you don't have to do it. But for me, what's important, I hire people, I have accountability in those areas of my life. Fitness, relationships, spirituality, business, mental health. Financial health. I mean, I hire people in every category.

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And I understand you may not be at a point right now where you can do that, where you can afford that. But find friends, find mentors, find people that can hold each other accountable. And if you want to improve... Your fitness, one of the best things you can do is surround yourself with fitness-minded people.

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So if you're tired of waiting for happiness to find you and you're actually ready to create it intentionally, this episode provides the actionable strategies backed by research and real world experiences. So if you're tired of waiting for happiness to find you and you're ready to create it intentionally, this episode provides actionable strategies backed by research and real world experience.

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So if you're hanging out with people that are lazy and on the couch and aren't working out ever, then start spending more quality time with people that are getting up at 6 a.m. and doing joint runs together. There's run groups in every city around the world. There's different things you can do to support you.

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So think about the accountability in your life, what's important to improve right now, find those people to support you, and move forward. Habit number 10, learn to cope with tragedy and let go of regret, anger, and resentment. Holding on to our past trauma is one of the most painful things we can do for ourselves.

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I am speaking for myself here that I held on to trauma and resentment and anger and frustration forever. 25 years, if not more, in different parts of my life. And that is a recipe for suffering, reaction, stress, painful moments, all these different things.

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So, you know, the therapist who's been on who reminded me of this, Guy Winch, talks about, you know, the ruminating of our past wounds and holding on to these past wounds and how to heal the broken heart. We've got that episode that you can dive in more, and so many different therapists have come on and talked about this.

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But I try to really look for the positives and what I can learn from these events and feelings and channel those feelings into growth as a person and really how can I serve others who might be going through something similar in that situation. I remember hearing a story from Tony Robbins. He said, you know, When I was a kid, my mom used to beat me.

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She used to pour soap down my mouth because she thought I was lying. She used to do all these things that caused a lot of pain and trauma for me. But I loved my mother because she gave me the capacity, the expanded heart to want to help other people rid themselves from their suffering. So he used the painful moment not as resentment to hold on to,

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you know, being angry at his mom, but say, you know, I love my mom for this. You know, she didn't know any better in these times. She was doing her best. She was also loving in other ways. But those moments, I'm not going to hold on to them and suffer. I'm going to use them to end suffering for those around me. And I think that's really powerful.

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So really think about how you can let go of the emotional traumas. This might take some work for a lot of people. For me, it took a long time to really learn how to do that. It's one of the reasons why I started School of Greatness, because I wanted to interview these experts to teach me. But it's created so much freedom and peace in my life and happiness in the process.

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And habit number 11 is to eliminate things that don't make you happy and focus on what does make you happy. So I asked Matthew McConaughey this, and when I interviewed him, I said, you know, what are five things that we should be eliminating in our life? And he mentioned this list of these five things. Number one, we should be eliminating bad people.

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Eliminate people that don't promote your growth and that don't bring you joy. We often cling onto these toxic relationships for people because they validate us in the short term, but they're very harmful in the long term. So eliminate those people, or at least distance yourself. Distance yourself and start spending more quality time with people that bring you joy.

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Number two to eliminate is bad places. Stop going to places that encourage unhealthy lifestyle behaviors, like bars or fast food restaurants, et cetera. Again, don't go to these places if you know you don't feel good when you're there or afterwards. And if a certain place continually makes you feel bad, do whatever you can to eliminate or distance yourself or go there less.

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And I'm gonna break down each habit with practical examples and implementation tips that you can start using today. Now again, the end of 2024 is here. I want you to reflect and ask yourself by the end of this episode, which of these habits do I have in place?

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Our environment can really impact our mood in a big way. It's hard to not notice that. So create those environments for yourself that are healthier. Number three, you got to eliminate the comparison to others. Stop comparing yourself to others and eliminate jealousy because what is it, the quote, comparison is the thief of joy.

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I think Einstein said that, you know, when we're constantly comparing yourself to yourself of what you think you should be or whatever, it's like always in comparison mode is not going to do anything good for your happiness. Number four, overthinking your failures. Instead of dissecting all your problems, start dissecting all your success, all the things you've done to overcome the challenges.

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And ask yourself, how can I replicate my successes rather than how can I stop my failures? And number five to eliminate is instant gratification. This is a big one. Fight the cravings for instant pleasure and results and be okay with delayed gratification.

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Knowing that you're going to be doing the work consistently and your future self is going to be grateful for your current self and the consistent effort you're putting in. You're going to reap way bigger rewards in the future if you can delay that gratification. There you have it. These are the 11 healthy, happy habits to increase the overall joy of your life and set you up for a better life.

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If you can commit to implementing these in small ways over the next couple of months, I'd be curious about what would happen in your life. What do you think you could create and transform in your life just by implementing a few of these things consistently for a couple months? Leave a comment below.

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of one or two that you enjoy the most or one or two that you know you need to improve on in your life. Which one impacted you? Which one, ooh, that resonated. I've got to do that more. Or this one has been working wonders for me for years. Leave a comment below on YouTube and let me know. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.

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And if you're not happy, if you don't feel like you're creating the life you want, then it's time to consider start implementing some of these habits. You don't have to do all 11, but I want you to start implementing some of them because now is the time to set yourself up for success in 2025. Start with this episode. Let me know.

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Subscribe to this podcast over on YouTube or on the audio on Apple podcast and let us know your thoughts. Thanks so much for being here. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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Send me a DM on Instagram or on social media, your biggest takeaway, and share this episode with one friend that you're with this holiday, that you're connecting with, a family member, a friend, and say, hey, are you doing any of these habits? And if so, let's take on one of these habits together, just one episode.

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It doesn't have to be all 11 and go crazy, but what's one thing we can do and hold each other accountable for and reflect on by the end of the month? I am so excited for you. It's a half of a decade is over. We're going into 2025 and so many people make new year's resolutions and they quit within the first couple of weeks. I'm not asking you to make new year's resolution here.

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What I'm asking you to do is to evaluate the lifestyle you have and to see if you can add one habit from these 11 habits to set you up for more joy, more happiness, so you can live a healthier life in the back half of this decade, starting in 2025. You are deserving and worthy to feel loved, to feel joy, and to feel happy. But it's not going to happen by default. It needs to happen by design.

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And this is your opportunity to step into the design of the life that you want to live by taking on this episode today and implementing consistently some of these habits. I believe in you. I know you're worthy and joy and happiness is moments away. If you're willing to commit to making a switch, it doesn't mean everything's going to work out perfectly. That's not what this is about.

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It doesn't mean you're not going to have any challenges in your life or breakdowns. Life would not be interesting if you didn't have any challenges. What this is, is going to demand you letting go of the old version of you that's been holding you back.

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It's going to demand a new way of being, a new level of commitment, a new level of consistency that you've never had before in order to create and get what you want right now. So if you're ready to step up, this is the episode for you. This is the moment for you to lean into that future vision of yourself that you want to create. No longer time to live in playing small.

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This is your moment to step up and lean into playing the biggest life you've ever had this year going forward. You are ready for this moment. And this is your moment to live into it. So without further ado, let's dive into this episode on the happy and healthy habits. Habit number one is to create a vision and life-fulfilling goals. Now, this is something that I talk about in my book.

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It's one of the first principles in the School of Greatness is really creating a clear intentional vision. And without a clear vision, you'll end up running in multiple different directions instead of staying focused on what truly matters in your life.

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relationships your health and your business and this can lead to your success being delayed a lot longer than it needs to be and so you really want to get clear and intentional and you can have a different vision at every different stage of your life when you're 10 years old or when you're 50 years old but it's important to have a clear vision without that you'll just be kind of wandering around.

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And when we're wandering, we feel aimless. And when we feel aimless, we feel like, what's the point? What's the purpose? What's the intention for me being here? And that causes a lot of stress and anxiety when we have those thoughts. So in my life, when I wasn't clear on my vision, I was really running around and stressed out a lot. I was like, what should I be doing? I don't know.

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I don't feel good enough. I don't feel worthy. I don't feel like I matter. And those thoughts really don't help me improve the quality of my life. And a question someone had asked me is, what was your life like when you didn't have a clear vision versus when you created one for the school of greatness? And for me, I remember different moments in my life.

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It was mostly in transition when one goal was finished, when one dream had ended, whether it be, you know, a sports dreams or business ended. It's kind of like the transition period where I was like, well, what do I do next? And it's that discovery phase of the transition where you get to get clear. Start doing the things that you really love.

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Do the hobbies, hang out with people you love to spend time with, travel. Do the things you've always wanted to do and do them to the best of your ability. When you do that, you'll start to spark ideas. Things will start to come to you naturally. And that's what I really did in between transitioning before the School of Greatness into the School of Greatness. I was living my life.

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I was playing sports. I was being active with friends. And that process, I remember going through transition thinking, you know, I wish there was more tools when I was growing up that would help me overcome the different challenges that I would face with my life. I wish there was a school of greatness that could teach me about all these different things.

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And one of the biggest things that I've seen for so many people over the last year, as we get closer to the end of the year, is they've struggled with just finding out how to be happy. And I've had so many different people that I've known that said they have some type of mental health condition or disorder. ADHD is on the rise, depression, anxiety, or just overwhelming stress.

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And that was the spark in the transition from one business to the next on why I created the School of Greatness. And the mission now is to serve 100 million lives weekly to help them improve the quality of their life. And we do that through a lot of the things that we do in the School of Greatness. But I'm very clear on the vision and on the mission. It's very intentional.

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I wake up every day thinking about it. And I act based on vision. Without that vision, I would act based on, well, what am I supposed to do? I'm not sure. I don't feel good about myself. I have no direction. And again, when we have no direction, we're just kind of wandering around in a circle. And that doesn't help us move forward. It doesn't help us grow. So have a clear vision.

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I don't care if the vision is for one month or for 20 years. Have something you're working towards that will help increase the happiness and the quality of your life. Habit number two. This is something I learned in sports early on is to have a positive attitude when things go bad. Now,

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The world is filled with a lot of different negativity, drama, stress, and sometimes it's hard not to fall victim to joining in on the negativity. This is one of the reasons why my father growing up would not let us watch the news. He would not let us watch commercials that talked about a lot of harmful things.

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or the news because he didn't want us to be susceptible to hearing about things that maybe are happening in a micro level that are blown out of proportion that seem like it's happening all over the world, but it's really only happening in a small level. He didn't want us to emphasize on all this negative energy and this negative attitude.

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So he eliminated those thoughts from our mind to support us in the positive. In sports as well, I would also have coaches that, you know, things wouldn't always go our way. And I used to be so negative. I used to be so reactive. When I missed a shot, when I dropped the ball, when I messed up, when something that I did was wrong or was a mistake, I used to beat myself up so much.

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Or when we'd lose, I was such a sore loser. I'd have such a bad negative attitude. And our coaches over the years would really teach me, like, that isn't helping you. That isn't supporting you or your teammates around you. But having a positive attitude when things go wrong will lift your teammates up, will lift you up to help you improve for the next play and the next moment.

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It's really all about having that positive attitude. Because the negative doesn't usually serve us for anything ever. There are times, absolutely, to speak up and be a stand for when bad things are happening to you or happening to other people or around you. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about that specific person.

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moment in time i'm talking about spending hours of your day thinking about yourself negatively and thinking about the world negatively around you just ruminating on how negative everything is that prevents you from showing up as the best version of yourself and i believe you're robbing yourself and your loved ones and the world of your gifts and who you truly are when you sit in that negative state so when i begin to shift

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into having a positive attitude, it really helped me in every area of my life. And negative things or things that I don't like happen around me all the time. But it's a practice, even today. And when I'm hit with these adversities or these obstacles, I try to ask myself, how could it possibly serve me in the future?

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And every time I hear about this and I tell people, hey, if you could do this just one habit every single day for 30 days and let me know how you feel afterwards. and they actually implement this one habit, everything starts to shift. They're like, oh, my mental health is so much better and I feel more peaceful and joyful and abundant and all these different things.

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Or if it's worth putting so much energy into it around a negative attitude, is it really worth it? Is it helping me in my health? Is it helping me in my joy and my love for others and my love for myself by holding on to this negative energy? It's usually not worth the energy. So why do we do it so frequently?

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You know, there's this book called Don't Sweat the Small Stuff because it's all small stuff. You know, obviously there's adversity and there's challenges, but when you can have the attitude around it, it really shifts your life and the people around you. So you've got to do the work to develop that awareness, to realize that for yourself. This isn't easy. This took me a long time.

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And having a positive attitude is important. in my opinion, one of the most important things to manifesting, to attracting, to feeling better about yourself. But one thing that I've learned from the different guests and the experts on the show in the last few years is that what's most important is getting to the root of what's causing you the stress, the pain, the anxiety.

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the negative feelings that you're having. Because positive affirmations can only get you so far if you're not also doing the deep work on what's really going on, what's underneath the trigger, the anxiety, the fear. Dr. Caroline Leaf has been on the show a couple of times. I really love her message and her expertise.

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She said, it's like putting a bandaid on a bullet wound when you're just trying to have a positive affirmation without actually going to the root cause of what that trigger and negativity is.

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But if you're able to get to the roots of some of the things causing you so much pain and suffering and the negative attitude that you have and then begin working to stay positive and having an abundance mindset, that's when you can really start to create real change and start to see and notice the feelings of positivity, notice the feelings of happiness forever.

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flood into your heart, into your body, into your soul. And that's what this is all about. So habit number three is an important one. It's all about giving back, volunteering your time, helping others, mentoring, coaching, being of service in any way possible that you can. And you might have heard me share this before, but If you're going to be addicted to anything in life, be addicted to service.

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I believe it's, you know, not addicted in the negative sense, but if you're going to be committed to doing something and living an intentional practice, be intentional on the act of serving other people. And in whatever way that works for you, whatever you have to do, do that for you.

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It's been my mission since the beginning of this show, and every single day I aim to show up and give back to you, to people watching, to people listening. my friends and family, my team members, and anyone possible that I can. And it's very important for me. And it also brings me a lot of joy when I can know that something I did caused a positive impact on someone else's life.

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whether it be a piece of content, someone I interviewed, something they said, something I said, a way we put it out there that connected with people, that brings me so much joy. It brings me so much happiness knowing that my life has had meaning on one person's life. And it continues to feed and fuel my fulfillment and my soul every day.

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And so we wanted to put together this episode of 11 different fundamental healthy habits that have transformed my life and that I know When other people do it, even just one of these habits, it transforms their mental health, their physical health, their inner peace, their joy, their abundance, and everything else starts to fall into place. And we are accumulation of our habits.

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And that's why I continue to be committed to habit number one, which is the vision and staying true to that vision. And in a New York Times article by Tara Parker Pope, she wrote that several studies suggest that supporting others helps buffer our bodies against the detrimental effects of stress.

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And a five-year study of 846 people in Detroit found that stressful life events appeared to take a greater toll on people who were less helpful to others, while helping others seemed to erase the detrimental physical effects of stressful experiences. Now for me, that is crazy to think that those who were more self-centered, who weren't focusing outward and trying to help other people,

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How do we build true freedom when there's so much uncertainty happening in our lives or in the world? And I think that's what we're all looking for is that feeling of peace, abundance and freedom in our lives. And a lot of times we want it externally. We want to feel like we have the options, the opportunities.

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This is interesting now because you were chasing money or you were putting your attention on money because you didn't have it and you wanted to breeze and get space from your parent or be independent or have your own resourcefulness and not rely on anyone else.

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So you became really good at focusing on how to make money, build a business and you made it, but there was still pain and trauma that you had to face. If you would have faced the pain and trauma first, first off, Would you rather face the pain and trauma first, then create wealth and build financial abundance from a more healed journey rather than a hurt journey? You're so good, Lewis.

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It might be in three to six months. It might be in 12 or 18 months. But things are shifting in the economy. Things are shifting in the world. And I want you to be prepared. I went on a trip with Dean Graciosi and Tony Robbins six years ago to Fiji.

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What would life look like? Because you spent probably 20 years chasing, making the money until you had to face yourself.

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That hunger came from the pain. Yes.

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Yeah, because you said one of the keys that people need during these uncertain times is hunger. But if you're hungry from a wound because you're starving, instead of, oh, actually, now you have money, you have the home, you have the things to keep you safe and comfortable, you don't need more things to survive. You're thriving.

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physically with your needs met, but how do we create hunger out of something greater than just pain?

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and had a powerful experience, a mastermind experience with both Tony Robbins and Dean Graciosi, where they shared some of these things about how to be prepared in life, in business, around your finances, when tough times are coming. And they might be coming soon. And whether they're coming now or in the future, eventually they're going to come, just like they did during COVID.

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Now how can you think of a compelling future when you're so stuck in pain and you've got your hands trapped around your throat or it feels like the debt hands are around your throat because you don't have any money and you're struggling in the current economic situation?

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How can you even dream of a possibility so far in the future or a year in the future of what you wanna step into when you're living in day by day, emotional stress, financial stress, and you don't have the time to address the past pain? Your parents are on you, you don't have the time to go and sit down for counseling. Yeah, totally get it.

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You don't have the energy to have those courageous conversations and create boundaries.

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and i want you to be prepared and dean and tony also have a brand new free live virtual event that is all about the plan to create the business and life that you love in a chaotic world they've got a bunch of special guests some of my friends are going to be there speaking and i want you to sign up for it it's completely free it's a virtual event and if you go to lewishouse.com thrive

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Right, right, you've tried a few things.

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Yeah, I can't remember who said this, but I heard someone say that a healthy person has a thousand problems, but a sick person has one. Yeah, it's an Indian proverb. Yeah, right? And it's going to be hard work to stay healthy. We have to put ourselves through... And it doesn't happen over a weekend. It doesn't happen over a weekend. It's a constant way of being.

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It's a constant ritual, a constant routine. And it's a lifestyle that we have to live into. So true. And otherwise, we're going to have a lot of pain for the rest of our lives. I have people close to me who are older who are just in wheelchairs who haven't taken care of their life during their 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s. And now they're stuck with diabetes in a wheelchair.

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And they're suffering for 10, 20 years. And they can't reverse it. And it's just like... that's robbing you of the opportunity to live a more beautiful life. So true. And if we can start doing that around money, around our health, around our relationships, we will have a greater life in the future. So that compelling future, whether it's around money or health, we need to be living into it.

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But how do we start rewiring our brains then, if we're feeling claustrophobic around money, the economy, our health, our mindset, how do we rewire our brain? What is that process to start believing we are deserving of a worthier future, a worthy, better future?

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Because a lot of people stay stuck in a mindset of victimhood, or it's just like, ah, they're always complaining about something in the world. or complaining about how they've beaten themselves up to get to where they are. I'm an idiot for putting myself in debt. I'm an idiot, I'm 50 pounds overweight. What's wrong with me? Why did I do this to myself? So how do we start rewiring our brains?

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That's a good question. To believing that we are worthy of receiving a more compelling future instead of just, well, I've already beaten myself up this far financially, physically. I'm just gonna stay in this place because it's too hard to reverse it now. Yeah.

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One of the reasons I'm going to Spain next month is because I've had this dream inside of me since I was a little boy, to be an Olympian. Oh my God, I love it. And since I, I don't know, five, seven years old, right? And I moved to New York City in 2009 or 2010 to go pursue this dream after I watched it on the Olympics in 2008. So I saw it in the Olympics, I'm living on my sister's couch.

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watching this when I'm in a depressed state, and I see this sport called team handball at 3 a.m. on the TV, and I go, what is this sport I've never seen in my life? And I go, I'm meant to play this sport in the Olympics. Something inside of me, something activated inside of me. I'm 24 years old or whatever it was at the time, It was 25. I can't remember.

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the abilities to actually go create what we want, to create a life that we want, to have the things we want, to be in the relationships we want. We're looking for the external environment to be a certain way for us to feel something on the inside. But a lot of the times we need to figure out how to feel that way first. How do we feel expansive, abundant, peaceful?

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And then a few years later, I moved to New York City to pursue joining a club team in New York City, the best team in America, because there was no team in Ohio. And the whole goal was to make the USA team. Nine months after that. Nine months. So I make enough money. My compelling future was, how do I make enough money to get to New York City? To get to New York City.

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To get off my sister's couch to get to New York City. I go there and I train for nine months in New York City, and I get the email that I've been selected with the USA National Team. And I was in Los Angeles when this happened. I know the exact moment, because it was a dream of mine just imagining this. I was literally at Jimmy Kimmel's. Studio I was in the green room.

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I was like backstage I wasn't on the show But I had like a ticket backstage and I was in the green room and I pulled my phone and I get an email You've been selected on the USA national team It gives me chills thinking about it because it was literally like a couple miles from here in Hollywood and that was in 2011 I think it was 2012 and So what is that almost 15, you know 14 years ago, right 14 years ago 13 years ago and

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I played for eight years with the USA team. Then COVID happened. We weren't gonna qualify. We weren't good enough to qualify to the Olympics. USA has not played in the Olympics since 1996 for handball. For handball. But the reason we played then is because every host country gets an automatic qualifier.

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So first that's like, okay, let me make the team and see if we can qualify. But you have to win the Pan Am Games. And there's a lot of teams in South America that are better because they have professional leagues. We don't have that here. So everyone goes to Europe and they find out about it in their 20s and start playing. Yeah. And it's just hard.

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But now the USA got the bid for the host country, LA 2028. So it'll be 20 years since I saw the sport for the first time on my sister's couch that I've been in this pursuit. And I thought I was gonna be done, but I went last year to watch the Olympics in Paris and I went to a handball game and the fire was still inside of me. Couldn't deny it. And I was like, I have to pursue this.

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So make sure you check it out. Again, it's lewishouse.com slash thrive. And what you're going to hear in this episode are some incredible nuggets. We had Dean on about a year and a half ago, and this episode blew up. And this one, I think, is even better. So I hope you enjoy this one. I hope you take lots of notes.

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Now it's four years away at that time. And I've got this business and I've got responsibilities and I'm engaged at that point and all these different things. But I was like, when I'm 75, just like you said, if I don't pursue this, it's kind of irrelevant if I actually succeed. But if I don't pursue it, will I be like your buddy that says I missed it? at 75, at 50, at 60.

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Well, I'd be like, gosh, I missed that opportunity. I missed it. I missed the opportunity. And so for the last eight months, I've been rehabbing, I've been training, I've been losing weight, I've been doing everything. You look amazing. Thank you. Just to get myself to go and see if I can play competitively at that level. Not even get back on the team yet. Just can I play for a month?

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and stay healthy, is that a possibility at 42? Like, I don't know, maybe it's crazy. But I can't live with myself without at least taking it the next step and then taking it another step. Until it's undeniably the dream has died inside of me or some other path happens.

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And without further ado, let's dive into this episode with the one and only Dean Graziosi. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have my good friend, Dean Graciosi, in the house. Good to be here with you. I'm so glad that you're back.

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Why is it so hard for people to go after what they truly want to do? Why is the fear holding them back are so much stronger than the compelling future for so many around money or their dreams or goals or just asking the girl out, whatever it is, why do we have this fear that we resist and delay taking one step? Why is it so painful, so hard, so resistant to just have courage?

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I know the fear of failure is strong and I know it's like the humiliation and all these things.

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The last episode we had you on has continued to take off for people because we talked about money, but money in a different way. Our internal beliefs around money. And there's something I've been wanting to ask you because... Both of us grew up very dyslexic and struggled in school.

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It's scary. It's uncomfortable. There's a question I have for you about money. You surround yourself with a lot of financially successful people, but also just a lot of people who are successful in different areas of life, not just money. But you have a lot of mega millionaire friends, billionaire friends, and you are surrounded by wealth.

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What's the difference between people who are acting rich versus people who are actually rich?

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And what's the difference on the externally and internally?

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And the reason I created the School of Greatness was to learn the skills that school did not teach you, that we had to learn through mistakes as our adult life. With everything happening in the world right now, with the potential recession coming, with all the tariffs, with inflation, with the stock market crashing or just being so volatile,

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But those then that you know who are extremely wealthy, what's the difference between those who are wealthy and fulfilled versus those who are wealthy and everything's a struggle still, or it's still not enough, or they have just problems in their life? What's the difference?

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I think just looking backwards helps. Isn't it interesting, I guess when you're in your maybe 30s or 40s and you've had more extended life where you've actually built a career or you've made some money, maybe you bought a home, you're like 95% farther than most of the world.

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How can we start to learn tactically to recession-proof our future, like the tactical stuff, but also how can we on the inside believe that we're worthy of receiving more, even if we make the tactical moves based on what's about to happen over the next 12 to 24 months?

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If you're in your 30s and 40s, on the mistakes you've made, on the pain you've gone through, on what you've created for yourself, on what you've accomplished. You have intuition. Yeah, you just have, you're so much farther And yet a lot of us focus on the 5% or the 10%, whatever it is, 1% of people who have more or are more relevant or have bigger car, houses, vacations, whatever it is.

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And we focus on what we're lacking from the 1% to 5% versus the 95% that we've overcome already.

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Yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah. I want to go back to this idea of, how do we build a recession-proof inside? A lot of us are thinking about externally diversifying, making more money, getting out of debt. Should we buy stocks? Should we buy gold? All these different things, the external decisions to make to recession-proof ourselves.

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But if you had a formula for recession-proofing the internal investment, the internal process to be more resourceful no matter what recession or no recession. What would that formula be and how can we invest in our internal world to create recession proof in the external world?

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Is there a formula? Is there a process? Is there a framework that you can share?

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It's almost- Just for entertainment, yeah, yeah.

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Is the goal at the bottom or the top of the pyramid? Top of the pyramid is the goal. Okay.

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Well, you don't know if you're winning or losing. Exactly.

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That's beautiful. A few final questions for you. I've got a lot here that I want to share, but we'll have to do another round in the future. You mentioned Tony Robbins a bunch in this episode, the things you've learned from him.

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I've heard your story about this, I think it was 40 years ago or 30 years ago, you saw his infomercial, got his books, went to his programs, and it helped you build your business, the frameworks, the mindset, the process. You were able to model his mentorship through his content, but then you started working with him, I think seven years ago, eight years ago, 12 years ago.

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But in the last couple years, what would you say is the biggest lesson you've learned from him?

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Because you've learned from him for 40, it sounds like, but through partnering with him, building businesses, going through massive scaling processes, going through COVID together, reinventing businesses, probably having some adversities you've had to overcome with businesses together, all these different things.

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What's the biggest lesson in the last couple of years you've learned from Tony Robbins? I would say... Personally, professionally, anything?

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So- Maybe those two things. Yeah, yeah. Being who you say you are on camera and also off camera, yeah. Yeah, because we know a lot of people that are. Yeah, exactly. Speaking of you and Tony, you guys have a free training coming up, right? We do. What is this training about, who's it for, and how can people get access to it?

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Wow. And so when people go through this, it's a free training. Yes. Where can they go and sign up? Or I guess we'll have a link for them. Yeah, if you could put that. We'll put it in the description for people to sign up for. We'll put it up on the screen as well. I think we probably have a custom link for us. We do. I just looked it up.

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Thrive750.com. So when you go there, you can register for three days. You're going to get training. You're going to get content tools to help you figure out what your offer is going to be, how you can offer something, how you can package it, and how you can sell it.

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That's beautiful. Thrive750.com. You guys can sign up there. This has been powerful, Matt. I really like this pyramid process that you've created, which is really just getting clear on one goal. I think a lot of us want to create multiple revenue streams or multiple projects at once, all these different things.

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One at a time. Focus on one at a time, reaching that, and then maintaining it, and then you can go to the next goal. Absolutely.

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Yeah, it's been a journey of it because even in, we were talking before in Fiji when I was with you and Tony in Fiji 2018, I guess end of 2018, was kind of the early conversation around it. And I asked Tony a question. I was like, you know, I just feel like I'm a seven out of 10 with like 20 different projects. And he was like, do you want to be a seven out of 10 guy or a 10 out of 10?

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I was like, God dang it. You know, I was like, yeah, I want to be, you know, at least an eight or a nine, you know, maybe we're never reaching a 10. Yeah. There's always room to grow. But I was like, yeah. And I just felt like distract, not distracted, but spread thin. Yeah. And it's like, it's hard to be great in 20 different projects or five different things.

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If you're launching them all at the same time, I feel like you might be able to move them, but they're going to be slower. So true. And so over the last few years, I really started pulling back and eliminating distractions. all these other revenue streams, which was really scary to go all in on one thing. And now I'm at the process where I'm like, okay, what is that next thing?

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What's one thing I could add? What's one goal, not seven things? Now you're 9.5 out of 10. Exactly, exactly. So I feel like, and I also am in a place where I don't want to rush just to make more money. Yeah. I'm like, I want it to be the right timing and feel in alignment with it. Not just like, just because I can do something else, I should.

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I don't think I should until I feel like that's the right thing. This is the right partnership. This is the right timing. Now let's go. So it's also been knowing how to say no to opportunities that look really enticing. But is the compelling future two, five, seven years in the future? Am I really going to want to do this thing in three, five, seven years just to make money right now?

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So it's learning how to balance that.

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You're 66. Your son and your daughter are in their late 20s at this point. I guess you have younger kids as well. Your older kids are in their late 20s. You're 66. You've sold a billion-dollar company at this point. You've got all the material things in the world. Wow.

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What's the advice your 66-year-old self would say to you today at 56 on what to make sure you don't miss out on and what to step into for the next decade?

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My man, Dean Graciosi. Appreciate it. Appreciate you. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy.

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And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to MakeMoneyEasyBook.com right now and get yourself a copy. I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money

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How do we feel free so that we can truly create wealth and have financial freedom no matter what is happening in the external world. And I think that's a lot of what I've been researching and diving into in my own personal experience about how to create that, specifically from the latest book that I wrote, Make Money Easy, which is all about healing that relationship with money.

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Yeah. I mean, during this time, it just seems like a lot of people feel so in fear because maybe they're already in debt and they feel like, how can I even get out of this debt when I'm not making the money I want? Yeah. Or I'm uncertain of where the money will come in the future. The last time you were on, you talked about how You know money is like oxygen you kind of explain.

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There's a metaphor around that. I'm curious if you could explain that again Why is money like oxygen for people and when you don't have it?

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And in this episode, you have a great opportunity today because my good friend Dean Graciosi is on, and he emphasizes that true wealth isn't just financial. It's having the freedom to heal your past wounds, become the person you're meant to be, and serve others from a place of abundance.

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He's also going to share why having hunger is critical in uncertain times and how to maintain it without letting it come from a place of pain. And he's also going to be sharing a powerful four-step process for setting and achieving goals that actually move the needle in your life. And listen, there are some uncertain times that are going to be happening in the next year.

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You made a lot of money. I made a lot of money.

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You can't run away from your pain forever. No. It's sometimes gonna catch up to you.

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Because money didn't resolve those problems.

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to MakeMoneyEasyBook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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If you can create a harmonious relationship from the higher self of you to the wounded self parts of you, then things are going to start to flow better in your life.

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It's been like, what, 13, 14 years?

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15 years maybe since I've known you. 2008, I met you.

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Yeah, you still get results in life.

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Interesting, so the parts that were wounded are still inside of you.

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Took action, got things done.

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Yeah, right, right. Chaos.

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So these parts of us that once controlled us or hurt us to try to protect us because they all had an intention to serve us, but they didn't help the self. really at our highest self.

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They're blocking self, but they're an attempt to try to protect us. Totally. These parts of us, when we can have a relationship, a harmonious relationship with them through healing and mending those wounds, then we can use them for good.

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And it sounds like we could, by doing the self-help work and by following this four-step process that we're gonna cover in a second and just going through the book, it sounds like when we can start to have a different relationship with these parts of us that have caused us pain and suffering, but also try to protect us, if we can start to have a new relationship by mending those relationships, it can get a lot better, but it doesn't mean

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Those things can come back at some point if we don't keep having a relationship with them in a healthy way. So you might be six months, I feel better, but then something triggers you and you go back to the wounded part of you that says, I don't feel safe. You need to control this. You need to protect this. You need to be a perfectionist in this moment, whatever it is, hypervigilance.

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And so it's a constant relationship and a conversation of checking in, it sounds like.

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All right, here we go.

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Give me a specific example in your life that may be a part of you that comes up sometimes that causes you anxiety or stress or.

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Yeah. Your team are like, oh, Gabby's in that mode. Her part of her, you know, is coming out in this moment. You know, OK.

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She's being a perfectionist or she's over controlling or she's done whatever it is.

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So whatever that part is for you that maybe has tended to come up a lot in the past, can you give me an example of how you could use this while you're sharing what these four steps are?

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So is that the adult self choosing to check in or is that the child self choosing to check in?

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So it's like what you said with your son, if he's not willing to reciprocate, like saying, let's talk about what's going on, and he's like, no, screw you, mommy, or whatever he's saying, then that's not a check-in. Both parts need to check in.

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Willingness to receive or talk.

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Got it, okay. Not that your son would say, screw you, mommy, but I'm just saying.

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Why is this happening?

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To make your hair like look perfect.

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The one that you're remembering now, confidence.

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Because if you're not starting step one, then you're just going to stay in fight or flight, you know, control freak, anxiety, or whatever your manager is doing.

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Interesting. Because otherwise you are those parts in that moment.

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Until you can reflect. You just take a nap, you sleep.

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You're out of the environment.

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Of course, yeah, if you're staring at a wall or something.

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Cause I was like, Oh, he's got an amazing voice.

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He's got the whole commune.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money This moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness. Why do you think so many people lack the energy to create the vision, the dream that they want? Is it something they're missing?

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Yes. You talk about in one of your books, becoming a super attractor. How can we become a super attractor by applying this method?

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Because it sounds like you applied the method and you wouldn't have been able to figure this out if you were in stress and control and manager freak out, control freak mode, you know, that little part of you is back in that, like it needs to be a perfect pigtails or whatever. So how can you attract abundantly without managing the parts of us that are wounded?

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You can't manage the managers.

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You won't be able to break through certain levels.

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Do people need to think about motivation in order to overcome themselves and their problems and their challenges? Or do they need to think about being more disciplined to overcome the weight of the world they're feeling?

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Do you think anyone can have a beautiful, amazing life if they live in a blaming mindset?

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Take the keys back. What would steps two and three be for setting people up for their ultimate life? What would that beginning process? Is it is it get clear on a goal? Is it start with motivation, start with discipline, like change your habits? What would the next couple of steps be to set up the mindset for success?

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I've heard you talk about a concept I want to share in a second. But I feel like there's a group of people we've been talking to, you've been talking to that are the people that have maybe don't have the opportunities they want, they don't have the life they want, they feel like people are holding them down. That's one group.

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Then there's another group of people, which I feel like is a majority of people that have a good life. It's okay, it's good, but they're not living a great life for themselves. Maybe they got a good job and they're pretty healthy, got a decent relationship, but there's something missing.

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I think if that resonates with anyone listening or watching, comment below or leave a like if you feel like, yeah, my life is good, but I feel like something's off. You have this great concept called creating a mental rock bottom to push yourself towards your goals.

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Can you share more about some practical steps of creating your own mental rock bottom so that you can go to the next level in your life?

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I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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Is it something they don't have access to? Or they lack that energy that heals and draws to them their dreams?

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First off, what are the emotions of lack so that people can make a distinction and say, ah, don't think about lack. I'm not in lack. but maybe they are based on certain emotions. So what are the emotions that cause us to feel in our bodies lacking as opposed to abundant and Caveat, how much of those lacking emotions can we have on a daily basis and still be abundant? That's a good question.

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You know what I mean? Is it 50% victimhood and we're stepping to be good? Is it angry 20% of the time? How much wiggle room can we give ourselves grace and still, oh, I'm still going to be able to get my dream? So what are the emotions of lack and how much time can we really allow ourselves to be in a state of frustration or sadness and still be abundant?

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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Why do you think people struggle so much to have peaceful power in an intimate relationship in today?

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Like fear of being out of control.

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Can you feel safe if you're controlling someone else?

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So how does someone feel safe in a relationship with someone else that they're sharing their heart with, they're being vulnerable and open with? How can they feel safe if someone else has the ability to hurt them?

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I know a lot of women reach out to you and ask you questions about relationships. Based on your experience or interpretation of your community, where do you feel like women are at today in relationships? What's the percentage of women do you feel like are safe emotionally in the relationships they're in? And is it about...

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the men they're with or the relationship they're in, or is it more about they haven't learned the skills of emotional safety or regulation yet?

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Wow. Yeah. I mean, as long as you guys are coming together and in alignment on it, that's all that matters.

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What would you say are, you know, you've been married, what, 10 years now?

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10 years now. And I was asking you some marriage advice before. Yeah, because you're going. I'm engaged and, you know, going to be getting married sometime soon.

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If someone was looking to get engaged or married to their partner that they're with right now, what would you say are three mandatory questions they should ask their partner before marriage? to make sure that their answers are in alignment. And if they're not, then you should probably reconsider being in the relationship.

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So it's not just the same beliefs. It's the same shared expression of the belief.

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That's interesting because he could be like, yeah, I believe in God, but I'm an angry person.

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I'm just trying to tear the world down.

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Interesting. OK.

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Wow. OK, so one more time. Say it again.

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That is so powerful because if people have not healed the wounds of the past and they drag them into the present, they'll keep happening in the future and it's going to affect the person you're with.

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Yeah, that's interesting. Because if someone's replying and saying, well, I didn't really have anything and they're just dismissing it. Or if it is a big thing, but they're not willing to address it. It's like it's going to impact you.

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The person you're with. For sure. They might be avoidant or reactive or explosive or aggressive. You don't know.

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That's a good one. Great question.

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That's beautiful.

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Do you think the world is in more pain now than when you were a teenager?

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We didn't see this stuff.

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We would see maybe newspapers or.

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We shouldn't see it.

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It does. You incorporate prayer in your life a lot. What is the prayer that you think the world needs to hear right now?

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Yeah. I can't remember if this is like a quote or just an analogy, and I can't remember who said this, but something like, if you want to go change the world, start with your own house, start with your own family. I can't remember who said that. But it seems like so many people are trying to fix problems outside of their own life. Yeah. Like they're...

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shouting about this cause and this problem and this thing in the world that's unjust and this war and this thing, you know, changing these policies. And I get it. I understand that. But it also seems like they're just not happy with their own life. And they probably have challenges at home that they can be taken care of first.

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Why do you think so many people try to fix outside problems as opposed to focus on how they can improve their health, their relationships, their past, their traumas? their family situation, why do you think we as society try to fix outside versus first fixing inside?

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But I also think that there are some people who... But if they have broken relationships and they're, you know, sick or they're not taking care of that first, that's, I guess, what's... I mean, because it's just so much easier to sweep around someone else's front porch.

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What do you say to people that are really struggling, that really want love, really want intimacy and connection and just deep compassion with someone else, but they're afraid to do the healing work because the trauma is so scary?

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I'm assuming, you know, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I'm assuming that when you met her, you weren't... I was a boy. You weren't on the healing journey yet.

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You had traumas, you had challenges, you were struggling. And I'm assuming when you got married, you still had a lot of traumas and challenges, right?

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So how do you... heal in relationship. If you've made a commitment to someone already and you realize, oh, you know what? I still got my wounds and traumas and I'm still kind of messing up in certain ways. And maybe she is too. But we've been together for three, four, five, six, seven years now.

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Now we got kids and we're realizing we've been trauma bonding or reacting or triggering each other or hurting each other unintentionally or I've been hurting myself. Is it too late to heal and repair because of the baggage of someone in a relationship? Yeah. Or can you still heal and mend and recreate a new relationship in a broken relationship? I'm not saying yours was broken.

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So identifying it first, facing it.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money and this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness.

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And that's something you've been doing in your health journey over the last year now, year and a half?

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Two years. Because when I saw you, I think it was about two years ago when I saw you last.

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I had a little extra weight on me. You had some extra love on you.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. but what allowed you to make a decision with your health to optimize health because it's been a two-year journey you've been disciplined on this journey of health Was there a trauma holding you back? Was there an old pattern holding you back? Was it just life was good?

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Food. Where do you think you would be in five to 10 years had you not taken care of the the commitment to the decision to being disciplined with your health, but you're still on the rise, you're still serving, you're getting all this real estate, you're impacting people, millions of people are following you. Where would you be in five to 10 years?

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Wow. Okay. I love this. So when you identify it and you face it, as opposed to, I guess, running away from it or just allowing it to consume you, What would be the next step? How do we move that power into a direction that supports and serves and empowers us?

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This is a powerful story, man. And in your book, On page 49, you have a quote that says, our fruit is always connected to the root. Yes, sir. So when you thought back to your 12 year old self, where was the fruit that was in the root of your pain?

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Right. It helped you get to a certain level.

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But just like the same thing that helped Mike Tyson get to world champion status is also the thing that destroyed him.

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What do you think is missing for most people in order to reach some type of depth and joy?

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Do you feel like there's anything in your life where you suffer?

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I mean, you've got a nice home. You've got a great family.

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Yeah, right, right, right. I can almost see my house from this place, by the way. You've got things done well, but we all have our own inner battles.

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And what are yours if you have any?

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Yeah. You've been on a journey over the last, I think, like four to six months where you've been surfing almost every day. Is that right? Quite a bit, yeah. Pretty much like four or five days a week or what?

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Dolphins were going right there.

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That's terrifying.

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Now, what are the biggest lessons you've learned in the last, I guess, six months? Since you've been doing this pretty much daily, I know we had a conversation.

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You're going there like all day until like a certain time and you're not, no phone.

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You just kind of like take your journal. Yeah, yeah. What's the big lessons you've learned about doing this every single day as opposed to just jumping in kind of like the rat race of like be on your phone and like working all day?

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And what's the big thing you've learned about this journey?

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Sounds nice for you, but most men are probably thinking like, oh, my wife would never let me do that. You know, just go to the beach for all day.

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You obviously have, you know, resources now and flexibility and freedom with what you've created for the last 20 years in your life. So you have those options.

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Speak up a little bit.

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be at be at the best so that we can do what we need to do yeah if there was a if you were the author of a new book called the bible of today right and all the writers of these poems and letters and lectures and stories said rob we want there to be a new bible and we want you to write it And we want you to do your best.

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Or hit a boundary or say, no, that doesn't work for me right now.

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Obviously, this is your interpretation, but we feel like you have the keys to the kingdom to be able to write something that would help a lot of people in this world, no matter what religion, what they believe, what they don't believe. But this would be the new Bible. What do you think you would cover? What would I cover? Yeah, what would you write about? What would you cover?

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How long would it be to get the message across? And what would you want really people to feel at the end of reading this?

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As opposed to just going along with what your past identity would always do, I guess. For sure. So it's almost like create a rehearsal and practice with yourself first. Once you identify and you're aware of it, I'm hearing you say like, How would you reflect on something you would have done earlier that day that you wish you had the power to do?

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When are you going to start writing it?

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And start practicing it on your own.

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this is like the 10th or 11th 10th or 11th who's counting three New York time bestsellers tours speaking everywhere on tour with Oprah all that good stuff documentaries uh This is, let's say, 100 years is the last day for you, right? You live for another 100 years plus whatever, as long as you want to live. And you achieve everything that you set out to do.

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All your dreams, you create it, you do whatever you want. You make it come true. But for whatever reason, all your work is erased. And it's not available for people to learn or read or watch anymore. But you have a piece of paper and a pen and you get to write down three truths. The three things you know to be true, the lessons that you would pass on to the people after you're gone.

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For the whole world, this is all they see, these three lines or lessons. What would your three truths be?

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Those are powerful. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you wanna make it easier, you wanna make it flow, you wanna feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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For someone that thinks that they've never been enough, that they don't believe they're enough, or they don't believe they're worthy or deserving of their own power, what are three things that you think, maybe from your book, Power Moves, that they could start to apply today to feel more enough and more powerful?

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What's the biggest power move you need to make in your life right now? The biggest change that's on your heart or mind or in your world that you know you're still...

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Marinating and need to activate.

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Are you not being authentic in certain areas or you're not?

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Wow. So that's what you're working on?

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Yeah, yeah. Interesting. But you weren't an expert when you started speaking on stage either, were you? I was not. Did it stop you from putting yourself out there?

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Sharing a message authentically and imperfectly. And it served and moved people. I see what you did there, a little sprinkle. What is the prayer you need to hear right now for yourself?

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Yeah, this is interesting. I just wrote down kind of what you were sharing there. I put calling on top and then success versus service.

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And it sounded like you started sharing your story to be of service to people that were asking, hey, share your story.

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And you realize, oh, this was helping individuals, a handful of people, and then hundreds and thousands and millions. And you gain success as well through that process of just sharing your story and being of service. And then it sounds like it's moved you into a calling. It's what it's sounding like, right? But... How do we learn how to know when we're going after success versus service? Yeah.

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And how do we know, well, this is an amazing opportunity and here's this cool thing I could do with this person and this experience and here's a lot of money over here and this project and this deal. How do we know when we're taking on success and it is truly service versus success by itself?

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How does someone learn how to do that, though, when there's so much pressure from, you know, their survival, making money, their approval, the pressures of a publisher potentially telling you you need to do this or your community letting people down? How does someone let go of the pressure? need for something to be successful and be an obedient servant to their calling and message instead.

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In a material world when we got to survive and pay bills.

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Wow. What did he say?

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Speaking of power moves, someone could look at this and think, like, is this a relationship book about power moves and relationships? You're speaking about your husband. Yeah. It seems to me like a lot of people are struggling in relationships. Like there's. Power dynamics where there's just fights happening all the time in intimate relationships where people are dating or married.

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You've been called the millennial parenting whisperer. Is that right? I think Time Magazine wrote that one. Time Magazine called you the millennial parenting whisperer. I've had Cesar Millan, who's the dog whisperer on. And people come in to say, hey, how do you fix my dog? And he fixes humans, essentially. He teaches humans how to lead themselves better.

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And it sounds like parents come to you and say, how do I fix my kid? And you're coming to them and saying, well, you need to learn how to be a better leader and heal and reprogram yourself and learn how to regulate your emotions so you can manage these situations. Would that be accurate?

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Why do we think our kids will heal us?

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Wow. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so... Want to get to the third thing? Yes, let's get to the third thing.

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Okay, so I saved the best for last.

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But the second thing was... Resilience over happiness. Yeah. Yes. And I want to ask you before you get a third thing, how do we raise resilient children?

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Can you give an example of what this would be like for a parent and a child? Sure.

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Tired. I want to relax.

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So you're like hoping when you come home that you're having a breakdown and a temper tantrum. Because that's when there's going to be a big breakthrough, right?

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What can I get away with, right?

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A parent's words become a child's self-talk. Wow. Yes. So what your parents say to you over and over again is what you say to yourself.

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So Dr. Becky, you're not a perfect parent?

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You're not. Every day you come home and not after a long day, you're just like, okay, what do you need right now? And you're stressed out. Okay, I'm going to do this puzzle with you.

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Without you having to do it.

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Super vulnerable.

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And I didn't make it.

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Now this is gonna matter in 20 years or whatever year you're in.

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So how long should they sit on that bench of emotion?

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To the child. Say that to the child right away. When they're stressed out, when they're angry, upset, shameful, any unsettling emotion that you don't enjoy yourself, say back to them, I'm so glad you're telling me this right now.

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It's like a shame underneath.

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I'm 41 and I'm starting the process of- You're just getting on it? Getting started with thinking about when in the next year or two.

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What was the biggest thing you learned about yourself after having kids? And what was the biggest thing you learned about money after having kids?

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That was like a conscious or unconscious thinking?

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That sounds awful. I mean, it doesn't sound awful. Do you feel like it's... I think it's your instinct saying, okay, this is going to be more of an expense. This is going to take more time. I've got to invest in this. How do I go find more resources to support and provide for this family that I'm building?

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Interesting. So you feel like for most men that you've connected with who have kids, they get focused when they have a kid on their career or their finances or saving or investing and they just get a little bit smarter on that?

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness. How do we learn to make sure we raise good human beings without messing them up when we haven't been taught how to be good parents?

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We're talking about the algebra of wealth, a simple formula for financial security. On page 49 in your book, you say that the most important economic decision you'll make in your life is not what you major in, where you work, what stock you buy or where you live. It's who you partner with.

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And when someone is wanting to choose the right partner, a lot of people, my past, was choosing based on chemical bonding, sexual attraction, chemical bonding, feeling good, and not really asking those courageous questions about the future, about financial decisions, about spending, saving, all these different things.

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What would you say are three questions that young people should be asking each other when they're entering a relationship to see if the potential for a healthy and happy long-term relationship is even possible knowing that money challenges a site for 37% of the problems in divorce is around money challenges.

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It's the underlying like issue behind why someone's resentful or angry or stressed or overwhelmed. It lowers the immunity system of everybody around the household. Wow. So when a woman is with a man that makes less than them. Can they truly be sexually turned on and feel emotionally safe as well? I think so.

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Financially, education, intelligence, opportunities, resources. Women are killing it.

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Why are men not doing as well in today's society? And why are... versus women continue to thrive, which is a great thing, but why aren't men thriving equally or at the same pace?

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What are the clear signs that you could start reflecting and asking yourself if one of your parents were narcissistic in any way?

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You're just dysfunctional.

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What's the worst thing a parent could do then to their kids over and over again that will... almost surely make them dysfunctional as an adult? Is it never apologizing to them when they... That's too symptomatic.

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So bringing the generational trauma onward.

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That's a symptom of something.

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You know, it's interesting because I don't think I've ever heard that connect before you correct. And I just had a flashback to all the coaches that used to scream at me when I would drop a football or miss a basketball shot or just mess something up or I wasn't paying attention or whatever happened and just screaming at me, belittling me.

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And if we don't break the trance of the family, the origin family of ours, if we don't break that trance, then we're just going to relive that pattern in our adult relationships as well.

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Interesting. Here's the real question then. If we start to think about, oh, maybe my parents had some narcissistic tendencies and I'm starting to think about it and I'm starting to evaluate my childhood and realize, oh, I thought this was just normal because it's the only thing I knew.

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Yeah, and we should. And my parents were loving at times, and they gave us, and they were doing the best they could. So I can't think of them as narcissistic, but we start to internalize that. What are the warning signs then that show up in adult children of narcissistic parents?

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making me feel less than in front of my peers, my teammates, and shaming me to try to get better. And I remember just feeling resentful and angry all the time, right? And afraid. Now, I would still work hard, but I didn't come from an emotionally good place. So I didn't want that to happen again out of fear of shame, as opposed to...

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And so as adult children, What should we be thinking about if we felt like we had a dysfunctional childhood? Should we be thinking about how do I get myself to be self-differentiated from my parents and my family? How do I block my family completely? How do I heal the past?

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What should we be thinking about as we come into awareness as adult children of dysfunctional childhoods or narcissistic parents?

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someone actually sitting down and connecting with me where i did have great coaches also who took the time to connect with me and ask me questions and why are you so angry why are you reacting like this what's going on why are you so frustrated why did you foul that person that way yes you know what is going on

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And then I'll try to overcompensate or approval or whatever.

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Why is it so hard as adult children to break the family trance, though, of conditioning from parents guilting or you need to come visit me more or why don't you call me more or you're not doing this more or whatever?

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Really? Oh, they just go. It's the fantasy that holds us back.

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Stop looking for what? A beautiful childhood or whatever?

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They just judge me.

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So what should adult children stop trying to do with their parents? Stop needing them as parents? Really?

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Good question. I don't know. 18. Is it supposed to end, though, at 18 for everyone?

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But some people live with their parents until they're 30.

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It's interesting because the people watching and listening right now, if you're listening, if you're watching this right now, I want you to leave a comment below and say if you had a happy, like if your parents loved you, supported you, approved of you, most of the time, comment below, happy childhood.

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If you feel like you could never get the approval of your parents, they were never satisfied with you, they're always judging and critical of you, type in challenging childhood in the comments below. And I'm curious, what is the pro and con of having a healthy relationship with your parents versus an unhealthy relationship with your parents, wanting them to approve and love you as adults.

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Even if they do apologize, it still may not solve the problem.

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You know, it's interesting that you say that. I was sexually abused when I was five by a man that I didn't know. And I've talked about it openly on this show many times. But for those that are here the first time, it was something that haunted me for 25 years. For 25 years, I held onto it. I felt shame. I felt sadness. I felt anger, rage, all these different things.

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And it was a movie that played in my mind over and over again for 25 years. And it drove me without even knowing it, unconsciously, to protect myself, to defend myself, to... Not trust? Yeah, not trust. If someone's trying to take advantage of me, I'm going to, you know, get big and strong and all these different things. And I need to be right and I need to win.

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And in some ways it helped me accomplish certain goals, but it left me feeling very empty as well.

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And I got to a point when I was 30, so 25 years later, where it was too much. It was too much and it all kind of came out, right? It came out at one point after about a year of just breakdowns continuing to happen, where it forced me to look within and stop blaming everyone else of like, why is these things happening in my life?

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And it got to a point where I said, okay, I'm actually gonna dive deeper and start working on myself. and start unpacking things from childhood and start really reflecting on these things. And I went to workshops, all the therapy, coaching, all the different things. And I got to a point where I finally, opened up and talked about it in a safe environment.

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And then I started talking about it and letting my family know, some of my friends, and started talking about it publicly. And I don't think everyone should talk about their stuff publicly, but I had a platform I felt the need to, I felt pulled to, I felt like inspired to. And there came to a point where maybe it was a couple years after I started to process and heal that journey and

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self-regulate the memory and self-differentiate from that wound where I was like, do I need to confront this person? And I don't even know where the person is. I don't know where the person is or if they're alive or not. But I was like, what's that going to do for me? I got to a point where I was like, I don't need to and I'm at peace with it. But what should I do about that?

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Yeah, but I didn't feel like I need to confront this to like finish the job of my healing. I was like, this is my work to do. And no matter what this person would say, it's not going to help me.

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Unless it's a family member that you want to talk about something.

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Jerry, this has been powerful. And I want people to follow you over on YouTube slash Jerry Wise and everywhere else. Jerry Wise Relationship Systems dot com. You've got a free training on your site as well where people can go through more of your systems and your processes for understanding how to navigate.

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dysfunctional family relationships, how to start healing, how to start becoming more self-aware, self-regulated, differentiated, all these different things. I want people to go to your website and check this out. You're all over social media as well. Again, Jerry Wise.

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And you've got just a wealth of information on how to navigate probably one of the most challenging things, which is family dynamics and the dynamic you have with your inner child and self. And so I wanna acknowledge you for the decades of service you've had towards understanding, researching, and helping human beings find more peace and harmony in their relationships.

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Because like you said, I think the most important thing in the world is the family units. and having families be healthy and happy and individualistic as well within a family so they can be authentic and not a pseudo-self. So I want to acknowledge you for the work, the journey, and the commitment you have to helping families heal.

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in a world where it seems like there's a lot of stress and chaos in families. And there's two final questions I have for you. This one is a hypothetical question I ask everyone at the end of our conversations. It's called the three truths. So imagine you get to live as long as you want, Jerry, but it's the last day in the future for you.

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And you get to accomplish everything you want and see the people in your life flourish and everything else all comes true. But on the last day for you, you have to take all of your work with you. So this conversation is gone. All the content you've ever put out there, no one has access to your content anymore. But on the last day, you get to leave behind three final lessons.

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And we would have access to this information. What would be those three lessons to the world or three truths?

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I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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And it's hard for them to kind of Unwire that, I guess, right? And believe that they're actually good.

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And to add to that question, is it possible to raise a child that is not traumatized in some way, no matter how good we try to raise them?

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That that is my kid.

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What would you say are the three biggest mistakes of modern parenting today?

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Yeah. What are the three things that you think parents could do differently today to have a better connection with their children?

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So understanding it first.

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What if you don't understand it?

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That's exactly right.

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So we might have to learn, research, ask questions, get feedback from other people, whatever it might be, right? Yeah.

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That is so important and so countercultural. Why is our job not to make our kids happy?

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And so then what they do- I don't want to deal with this emotion.

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And if you avoiding it, yeah, it is.

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I interviewed a brain surgeon on here who's also a neuroscientist, a PhD in neuroscience, but also had done a thousand brain surgeries. And I said, what's the number one skill you wish every human being can learn to be better humans? And he said, emotional regulation.

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Like, from doing a thousand brain surgeries and studying neuroscience, the mind, he was like, emotional regulation will support us in being healthier, happier human beings. And it goes back to what you're saying, which is learning how to navigate all of the emotions and be with them and feel uncomfortable and sad and know how to manage them, not avoid, run away, be distracted by them, right?

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Way higher as an adult.

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There are two big things happening at one time that I've never done before. I'm going on a book tour for my new book, Make Money Easy, and I'm doing a podcast tour at the same time. It is going to be big, and I'm going to seven cities in 10 days. Get your friends, get your family, bring everyone you know to these cities. I'm coming to Austin, Texas, New York, Boston...

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So I think it's being a lawyer of your life.

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That's great, that's fun. What do you think is the difference between a rich mindset and a poor mindset?

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Of that belief system.

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Which is something you understand.

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You know, more excited, passionate, abundant feeling, energetic, and that energy attracts opportunities.

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So do the things that bring you joy.

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Why do we lack the perspective? You know, it's...

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you know and that creates more space for abundance in your life so that's cool and what would you say the biggest insecurities or challenges you face now at your stage after I guess, 13 years in business now, you know, crossing 100,000, crossing the seven figure mark and beyond. What's the challenge for the next level for you?

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You've never had this much money before.

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So what do I do with this much money?

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Which investments should I be spending it in? Am I spending it the right, wrong places? Interesting.

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Can you give an example?

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She was there the whole summer.

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Of course. Was this Florida or where is this?

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But the value in it was really like... A rich life, a rich feeling.

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Which probably allows you to think bigger and expansiveness in your business.

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Your family is, you know, feeling joy and love.

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They're too conservative.

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Yeah, it's true. What was the, what was the mindset shift for you from going seven figures to eight figures? Like what did it take?

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Is it tactical? Is it mindset? Is it a team? Is it systems, processes? What was that?

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I think debt feels daunting for a lot of people. And if you were broke today, and if you were in debt, let's say. Let's say you made a bunch of challenging financial decisions. Your mistake journal is filled up to the brim. And you're broke and in a lot of debt. What is the exact process you would take then from going from broken in debt to creating a financially free life? Woo!

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Right. I think it's to know your worth in general.

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And that's applied to everything in life. Like know your worth with your friends, with your family, in your partnership, with your relationship.

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Don't sell yourself short in any area of your life. And you've got to learn to believe in yourself to do that, which goes back to step one for you. Exactly. Surround yourself with people who've done it and then learn to believe in yourself.

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What would you say is the number one piece of financial advice you're seeing online that people should ignore?

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Then we're going to Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Francisco. Make sure to get your tickets right now. Go to lewishouse.com slash tour. Again, bring everyone you know if you're looking to create more financial freedom and abundance in your life and you want to see a massive guest live on the School of Greatness show. Get your tickets. I can't wait to see you there.

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How can people start to shift out of a scarcity mindset into abundance thinking when they're just fight or flight survival mode daily?

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What if someone doesn't want to pay it? They say, okay, I recognize the value, but that's not the value I'm willing to pay for because I don't want that value or it's not a need in my business or whatever it might be.

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There's another thing that you mentioned just before this was, you know, there's kind of two different mindsets. Your grandfather, who worked in the coal mines, who worked really hard, it sounds like on a daily basis, but didn't understand how to create more value, whether in his coal mine or somewhere else, and therefore was given what he received, correct? Yeah.

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Versus your dad, where it sounds like How did your dad break that mindset from his father, who he saw probably miserable or unhappy in the minds of dirty every night and sick and coughing? How did he say, I want to change this without a model of someone showing him abundance?

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That makes sense. And how does someone learn to feel worthy when they're broke?

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and entrepreneurism. Yeah. So you mentioned money demons. What are money demons? And do we all have them?

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How do you believe that?

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When the bank account and the relationship accounts don't show that value.

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So how does that look like in your mind? How do you kill off the old limiting belief or the demons that keep you small or holding back?

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You advise how many different, I guess, advisors would you say? Roughly 500. 500, and they're managing portfolios of what type of range?

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But you have this part of the book, page 73, called the destructive cycle of wealth. And you say, yes, it's cliche that money can't make you happy. Songs have been written about it. But why can't money make you happy? Shouldn't it make you a little bit happier if you suddenly stumble into, say, $100 million?

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You say the answer is no, and it sounds counterintuitive, but I firmly believe that to be true. And if money isn't making us any happier and most of us have much more than what we need, why do we work so hard to make more of it? Why do we spend so much of our lives thinking about money without even realizing it?

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We are stuck in the destructive cycle of wealth and learning about this cycle can help you better understand some of your decisions about money. And you say it has five phases beginning with our most basic human needs. Can you talk about what this destructive cycle of wealth is, why it's important for us to understand it and what we can do to make sure we don't stay in it? Yeah.

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It's about survival. So if I'm getting this right, we go through the cycle and you know, a lot of people who are mega millionaires, maybe even billionaires who are unhappy still. Yep. Would you say the majority of millionaires or billionaires are unhappy, the ones that you've been around or experienced?

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Really? It becomes empty. It's so empty. I need more money, more money, more money for what? It's an addiction of itself. So it sounds like the greater the purpose you have, the more fulfilled you'll be with or without money. Absolutely.

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Well, because they feel taken care of by the community or they know they're going to be provided for. They're happy with whatever they receive each day.

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I love this. And you mentioned early on that people have these screens. And just so I'm clear, is a screen kind of like a framework? It's kind of like a framework of thinking towards money or towards life? Is that your definition of a screen? It is.

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I love that approach is surrounding yourself with people that will hype you up or that inspiring that have already done that. And I've also heard people say, when I'm in those rooms, I feel like an imposter. I feel like all these incredible women, you know, if I was a woman in these rooms of women for this example, but these women have done incredible things.

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So can you give me an example? If you were doing this exercise for yourself, and I'm assuming you've done this a bunch of times, or you have an example of something, a story that you had, a money story or a moment or memory that caused a belief within your screen that...

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Or you could have said, see, there is no God because I'm divorced. Half my money is gone. My business is gone. My kids don't like me. Right? You could have also gone and stayed in that belief.

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How am I be able to, why should I, I shouldn't be in this room because they're all amazing. You know, starting to downplay my talents because they're all at a different level or have more experience or have their careers or financially successful.

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oh my gosh that was his first thing that was the first thing out of his mouth geez his screen his framework his mindset when he saw something he said you did something wrong to get this yep there's no way you could have done something good to be able to afford something that's right man and i know my dad wanted to be proud of him

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How old were you during that time? About 13. Wow. I mean, that's a memory that is still alive in you today. I'll never forget that day. 47, 48 years ago, right? That was a memory that your grandfather had with your father and your family. What...

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How does someone get over the imposter syndrome of being in the room when they are the whatever label they want to call it, the least successful financially, the least intelligent, the least experienced, whatever they want to say to themselves.

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psychological screen did you create in that moment that stuck with you that benefited you and one that didn't benefit you yeah well because money essentially that you know your dad tried to break a model of his father's to do something good but it hurt the relationship with his father that's right it caused him maybe he could think it caused him to die

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maybe maybe not but it could be like it was so bad that he died alone because he had no family and he didn't want to be around me whatever he made up in his mind so what was the benefit from you and seeing that experience versus you know a negative benefit the benefit in that was that dad stood up for his family well it's powerful and stood up to his values and what he believed about America

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What would you say are – Some things people should talk about before getting married about money conversations. What questions should you ask your partner before getting married to make sure that you're at least setting yourself up on the right track of a healthy, successful marriage?

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Because I don't have X. How can they overcome the imposter syndrome?

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And if she wasn't working, she was thinking, I'm not valuable.

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Now, I guess she might think I'm not valuable for myself, but also the fear could be, well, if I'm not working, he met me when I was working and providing for myself and independent. That's what turned him on potentially. So if I'm not doing that, will he still be turned on?

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I mean, it's a real fear though, right? It's a real fear. So she has to have a lot of trust in you that, okay, I'm going to leave my job and you're not going to leave me. Yeah. Yeah. How does a woman trust a man in that position who's already been divorced and been wounded, who's already been abandoned, who wants to make sure that doesn't happen again, who wants to provide for their family?

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How does a woman trust and have faith? What can she say to the man to feel safe?

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And probably your actions matching your words consistently for her, right? Most of our therapy had to do around the kids, I'm sure.

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It takes a long time when you have that many players involved. No, but also when you got divorced, I'm assuming it affected your financial situation or your business. You had to either split or give up a large portion, I'm assuming. Unless I'm wrong, let me know. But how did you manage that money demon of, man, I worked so hard for this, and now I've got to give up half or whatever it was? Yeah.

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How did you overcome that? And how did you, instead of being a victim to that situation, how did you start to shift and say, and use it for good, that screening?

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Because you could just stop running the company.

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But you gave up a lot of your other assets and cash. A ton. Yeah. How did that make you feel, though, that screen? Did you say, you know what, this is creating freedom and peace for me and I'm okay with this?

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So I think if someone's in the room and they're there, they're going to remember this conversation that you share here. And they're about to be in a room with a bunch of powerhouse whatever individuals. Yes. That they want to be around. and they're like, this is the first time I've been around this group of people, I'm terrified, I'm nervous.

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If someone wasn't raised around the language of money and they weren't in an environment or a household that spoke about it in a good way, maybe they said money, you know, rich people are mean or bad people, or their parents always got angry when they saw someone who had money on TV and associated wealth with... a bad person.

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What can they remind themselves in that moment when the Oprah of their industry is talking to them and they are potentially a nobody in that space, they're on their way up or whatever, what can they remind themselves?

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What did that do for you?

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How do they break that mindset that not all wealthy people are bad people?

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Yeah. Have you met a lot of millionaires who are unhappy?

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I'm driving a scooter. Scoot down the street with a smile on my face. Wave at the guys in the Ferrari. Like... I want what that guy has, you know, it's like.

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I think you want something because you want it, not because you're trying to impress someone else or show off or keep up. Or you think you should want it. Yeah, or because your friends have it, you're supposed to buy it.

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You have four kids, right?

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Four kids. What are the main themes that you teach your kids about money from all these different age ranges? You know, if you could share three things that you teach them consistently at home.

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whether it be a simple or profound principle, what are those three things that you talk about on a consistent basis with all of them?

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Am I complaining in my mind? I wish she would do this. I wish she would do this. But without saying it, that's still like creating this rumination inside of you. I love that audit. We are here talking about eight rules of love, how to find it, how to keep it, and how to let it go. If you guys haven't got a copy yet, make sure to get 10 copies right now. You mentioned this a little bit before.

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about conscious love, having agreements, principles, boundaries, and rules, which I think is a great thing. Most people don't have that. They just have assumptions and expectations. That goes more into toxic love. A friend of mine, Ryan Holmes, told me this years ago when he got married. I was like, what has made this a healthy relationship for you?

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He was like, we created a, what did he call it, like a family vision. we actually sat down and we created like a family crest, like a sign, a symbol of what we wanted to mold together to build our family. Something like we used to do in England like 500 years ago.

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And he said, doing that allowed us to get clear on our principles, what we wanted to really step into, how we wanted to serve each other and our communities, our families, and the world.

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i thought that's cool is there anything that you have around building kind of like a relationship motto uh you know crest uh vision is there anything you talk about around that yeah i i talk a lot about how there's there's three things you've got liking someone's personality you've got

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Liking their personality is what you said first, right? If you don't like someone's personality, you're going to spend 10,000 meals with them. You better enjoy their personality.

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With no distractions. With no distractions. You and the other person, you know, I heard this, I think it was a year ago, about like you're going to spend 10,000 meals with someone if you're with them forever, you know? Can you sit across the table and have 10,000 meals and enjoy the meals for the most part? So I love this liking personality, respecting values.

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I think with Martha, I got so clear on my values and communicating it effectively. And she asked me early on, I've told you this before. She asked me early on, what are your priorities, Lewis? Question. I don't know, maybe a month into dating. What are your real priorities in life, right? That every man fears answering.

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And I said, ooh, do I step into courage here, or do I shy back to keep it comfortable and not stir the boat? And I remember saying, well, I wanna be very honest and authentic with you, but I don't know if you're gonna like it, and I don't know if you're gonna wanna hang out in this way anymore. She was thinking that I'm going to say something horrible.

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And I was like, do you want me to be fully honest? And she looked at me and said, yes. I said, are you sure? Because I've been honest in the past and people don't like it. Yeah. Are you sure? And she said, yes. Take a deep breath. I'm like, okay, I got to have this courage. Because I just know that I thought that she wouldn't like what I was about to say.

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And I said, okay, here are my three main values in order in life. Number one is I value my health. And that needs to be like my top priority. Because if I'm sick, I can't do really anything. So I need to take care of health first and you need to support me in making sure that I use my energy to do that on a consistent basis.

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You can't pull me away from my health or healthy activities or make me feel bad for going to the gym or whatever it is. Number one. Number two, priority number two is my purpose, my mission.

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Like in the season of life, the mission that I have right now, and that's being all in, focused on that and not feeling bad about it, not taking time away from it, you know, not being resentful of it, any of those things. That's priority number two. And I was like, no woman wants to hear from their man or potential man that they're not their number one or number two priority.

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And I said then number three would be my relationship. You know, if we're going to end up dating together, it would be us. Yeah. And And I said, that doesn't mean you want to be like, I would never have time for you.

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But I need to make sure those first two priorities are set in stone so that I can actually give to you more so that I can be more present with you so I can give you fully abundantly and we can do all the things you want to do. You're gonna feel like number one, but you need to know that number one and two, I have to do these first. And you will feel like the most important person in the world.

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But if I don't feel healthy, if I'm being pulled away from my purpose and my mission, I'm not gonna be good for you. And she looked at me, she goes, this is amazing. And she goes, that's amazing. I love this. And I go, really?

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Because I'm thinking like, I've experienced and I've heard other people experience that if you're not making your woman your number one priority, if you don't put me first over everything, then it's like a stressful experience. And for me, that goes back into toxic love. And it's not about you aren't my top priority. It's prioritizing health and purpose and service first.

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whether you want to call it the same level or just above it so that you have the energy to be present uh to your relationship at least that's for me what i feel like a man needs to be in their relationship they're on they got to be on purpose right and she told me I love it because I've never been with a man who had a purpose. They always made me their purpose.

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And after a while, it doesn't feel good. You're like, go out and do the thing you want to do in life. I don't care if you want to serve two people a day, but go do something that you're excited about, not just make it about me.

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yeah and so give me your thoughts on this you know yeah this this idea or this philosophy um if you think that's in alignment with your eight rules of love or if you think that's i'm crazy and i just got a lucky one who just accepts me for that i love it so it's really interesting you say you did that because inside my book eight rules of love i actually talk about how i gave a client that same exercise so i asked them to rank their top three priorities in order and i was coaching the couple

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Like he was... Go ahead. No, go ahead. This is funny because I want to unpack this because I went to Cesar Millan, the dog whisperer, and I took my team to do like a full day of leadership training, which you got to take your team one day. So cool. I'm always scared Cesar's going to give me a dog. That's why I don't go. I know, right? I'm so scared.

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And he talks about the dynamics, at least in America, of married couples who... where if you if he asked most women what's the priorities in the relationship it's it's like mom kids dog then the husband this is what he says a lot of women say it's like the husband is last because they get this unconditional love from the dog but that's after the kids oh my gosh and then husband

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And he's like, we've got it all backwards.

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We need to be, the parents need to be leading the pack together, side by side.

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I love that. That's a beautiful point. Yeah. So you said he had one thing, which was her, the kids, and then himself. And she had herself, the kids, and then the man.

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And so what happened from that dynamic? And what happens when you enter or are in a relationship like that?

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How is it not the kids?

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And being lazy about everything else.

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Speaking of priorities, I'm curious your thoughts on... What is more triggering and harder to talk about in intimacy, which will lead to marriage? Is it around money or how to raise kids? Or are they kind of equal on their triggering?

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Why are so many people holding on to resentment of what someone did in a relationship in their past versus allowing them to find forgiveness and peace about it? Maybe not agreeing that it was okay what they did, but why do people hold on to resentment for so long or anger about a past?

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It's an explosion of love.

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What's the difference?

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What is the thing that you see them do extremely well versus? Oh, yeah. They forgive each other.

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What happens if we don't forgive something that our partner or in a relationship does? If it hurts us or they said something and they did something, maybe it was really bad or just.

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And if you're holding a grudge of the past, it's going to predict that in the future.

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Yes. You mentioned about survival mode. When we're in survival mode, we're feeling stressed. And when we're feeling stressed, we're unable to feel that kind of self-love, love for self. Well, when you're in stress, you're altered. You're altered.

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You're shaken. You're not feeling whole. You've moved from love. Right. Yeah. And when we enter a relationship from survival or stress... or lack of worthiness or neediness. I need someone to make me feel more love because I don't have it myself. What do we usually attract and create when we're attracting from neediness, survival, and a lack of wholeness?

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They wish them well.

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I love your definition of toxic love versus conscious love. And when I was hearing you say this, I was thinking that conscious love is also wanting to take emotional responsibility and accountability for emotions, as opposed to saying, you made me feel this way. You said this, you didn't do this, and it made me explode on you.

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And when I think you're more awake in your heart and your brain, you start to attract more great opportunities and you start to see is this person in alignment with

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it's having the emotional responsibility to to manage it and if you aren't good at managing it saying i take full accountability and i'm working on that healing journey and i think that responsibility and accountability adds to the potential growth for conscious love

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Yes. what is the main thing you would recommend people work on themselves whether in transition of relationships or in a relationship is there one thing that they could always be working on to improve themselves to be better for other relationships if their entire story about the relationship that just ended is about what the other person did wrong to them

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It gives me what I need.

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How are you going to add value?

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Yeah. And if someone's like, you know what, they listen to you, Esther, they really want to have an amazing relationship. They want to have a rich life, knowing it's not going to be perfect, but they want to create beauty and adventure and play and go through life through the sadness and the adversities and all the things that happen in life.

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And they're thinking to themselves, how much should I pour into myself for my dreams, my health, my friends and family? How much should I pour into the other person, into their life that I'm creating a partnership with? And how much should I pour into the relationship itself? What would you say to that?

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Not physically alive, but...

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How often are you playing in your relationship?

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Some people may be resisting the humor. They want to hold on to the seriousness. Yes.

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I want to ask you a few more questions, then I want us to play your game for a little bit. Over the last two years, was there anything that came up for you personally in your own inner world that you noticed, oh, there's something, like we talked about it, it created a lot of pressure for people if there were things that came out.

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Was there anything for you that you were like, huh, there's something I still need to work on myself or...

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Wow, talk about humor.

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No one can come here within 1,000 yards of us. No, no.

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get your tickets i can't wait to see you there i'm curious what is the difference between toxic love and conscious love because i feel like a lot of people get into relationships based on a wound and it causes you know toxic chemicals that might feel like love but then they unwind after six months, a year, two years, and it feels like then it's not conscious love.

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It's one of the key things in a relationship and in life is what I'm hearing you say.

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that are actually the most harm. Not like he cheated or she's lied to me or he's watching porn or whatever that is. But what are actually the things that most people think, that's not really that big a deal. That actually you do it year after year after year is a big deal breaker in ruining relationships. Maybe it's the little things, maybe it's the whatever it might be.

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Is there anything you can think of?

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Or at least not during their season of being driven. Correct. Maybe in 20, 30 years, it'll change, but you can't expect it to change.

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Okay, so that's number one, the idea of control.

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They got into it from a chemical romance, wounded, as opposed to conscious healing, integrating that into a relationship. What is the difference between toxic love and conscious love?

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That is the bottom line. That's it. And you do that week after week, year after year. You're like, I'm never enough for this person. What do I need to do? So they start celebrating what we're doing, not what everyone else is doing.

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And that goes back into your third agreement of love.

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It was criticism. Like diminishing them.

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I think this is a beautiful audit and probably a lot of people aren't even aware they're doing it.

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It's such a pattern and an unconscious reaction to seeing something. And even if you don't do it verbally, I would ask yourself to audit it internally. That's what I'm saying. Am I criticizing? Am I comparing? We're not even saying it. Maybe I keep the peace and I don't say what I really think, but are you thinking it? Yeah, you're scrolling on social media. Yeah, yeah. Am I comparing?

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Storytelling is something you're really passionate about. What's a story...

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Why do you think so many people struggle with self-confidence and self-belief today? Is it social media, outside influences? Is it people just don't think they're good enough? How come you were able to drink the Kool-Aid and stay in that environment and not let outside forces creep in?

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What was so uncomfortable about it? Was it doing something you've never done before, like getting out of your comfort zone and asking to raise money for something that maybe you're new at? Is that what it was?

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Yeah. Who was more influential for you, your father or mother?

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Yeah, wow. What do you think was the greatest skill that you developed in your training on the court and as an athlete that you're able to translate into these moments of raising money for a business?

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Wow. Have you ever been afraid of failure or have you just been confident? Yeah. Really? Yeah.

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What's the thing? Speaking of holding on to things, what's the thing that you in your life held on to for the longest period that once you let go of it, allowed you to step up in a greater way as an athlete or a human or, you know, in business? What was that thing?

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So the letting go of the letting go of, oh, I should have invested in this. I should have taken this action and beating yourself up. You let that part of you go for that.

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so that's good that's good i know you weren't expecting that answer but no whatever's on your heart and mind what do you think regret what do you think has been the uh the emotion that you've had that you held on to for too long in your life that when you let go uh allowed you to be a better human being a better athlete a better you know person in your family really um

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What would you say, you know, your parents, obviously, I think a lot of people know about your parents making a big impact in your life. You speak about them a lot. What would you say was the greatest lesson that each of your parents taught you growing up that you still hold on to today and implement today in your life?

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You're playing against other 10, 11-year-olds? You didn't score once? Not one. Were you in the game? I was in the game. How did you not score? Because I was terrible.

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What is your weakness that you think you could improve on?

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Do you feel like you're just overly generous and you're not thinking, oh, is this person just taking advantage or just maybe they weren't thinking about contributing?

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Sure. I'm curious about your mindset. Again, with someone like yourself who's accomplished so much at the highest level in the world of what you do, can you break down a little bit on how you think before entering a big moment in your life, in your sport, or in the business you're building? Is there a process that you think about when you're going to enter the arena of whatever you're working on?

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Um, is there a mantra, a process? Do you visualize something? Do you, do you release something? Can you just walk through a little bit about that process?

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I love that. How do you train to stay strong mentally? Personally.

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Absolutely. I think a lot of people want to win at whatever game they're playing in life or their career or their business or their sport. They want to be more successful. They want to win. And it seems like more than ever, society, at least in America, American society, it seems like everyone, Laura, lots of people want to become more famous, wealthy, and successful.

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And the more people I interview and ask about this who have fame, wealth and success, they talk about, you know, the pressures that come with that. Can you share a little bit about how you were? Did you feel like you were mentally and emotionally prepared?

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When you became a world icon in your sport and you started to gain popularity, fame, success, money, did you feel you were mentally and emotionally prepared? Or was that a challenge? Or was it a lot of pressure at first?

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Is that when you think the mentality of hard work started to come in for you at that age when you failed so miserably, I guess, that summer?

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Wow. Did you ever feel like you got punished after a loss?

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Yeah. And not holding on to it for like days or weeks of, you know, a loss.

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Absolutely. The younger generation might have today or the confusion around how to build confidence. Can you share, and I think this speaks into building a confident identity, can you share your passion for really starting to shift the conversation from appearance to capability and your own personal journey given the insights in this issue?

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How did you learn to build confidence during a time of maybe not feeling that confident growing up?

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This will determine the rest of your life.

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Where you go to school and college and everything else.

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And then you'd be like, I've got my jump shot from 15. I've got my- Yeah, I got my jump shot from 15.

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There wasn't opportunities for women to really be stars back then when you started.

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Why not? Why can't you plan it?

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Interesting. How long did you... And them wanting... Wanting you for who you are.

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So how long did you transform into someone you think they would want? How long was that process for?

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And then your athleticism, once you have the fundamentals, the hard work, the mindset, and you tack on the athleticism, it's game over.

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What was your routine and ritual like after every game? Would you watch almost every game over or certain games?

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How did you value yourself then?

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And so you were wrestling. You were pursuing professional wrestling, I guess, at the time.

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Then you quit to be a flight attendant?

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How old were you when you shook it?

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Is this in London now or where is this?

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Oh, it's in Dublin, yeah, yeah.

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Where did you feel like you were not connecting with in that first year? Was it the story aspect? The story part was what helped me. That's what saved my job. That's what kept you in it.

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Interesting. Is it like six days a week training?

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Gosh, that would have been so fun. Watching the matches? Just, I mean, that whole experience. Just like being a full-time athlete. Training, watching, testing, trying, just like...

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You could be cut like every week.

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subsided then you could enjoy it more sure but when you were scared that you were going to get fired every other day not enjoyable not enjoyable at all so when did you feel like i'm making it like when did you feel like okay i'm actually making it i don't know in my sport in society culturally financially when was the moment from 10 years ago to like i'm arriving

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You tried to do the Irish dance.

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Big WWE fan, Rick Rubin, we had on the show. I love Rick. And he talks about what you just said, making art for you. And writing in your journal, in your diary, the things that are meaningful for you, your art, not worrying what people are going to think about it, but having the courage to put it out there and allowing others to see it as well. That's like part of the process.

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Have you read it? Yeah, it's so good. Yes.

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Have you ever not felt like you were prepared before going live and having to come up with something on the spot? a million times. Really?

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As you're going out. Yes. You have to evolve what you're going to say. Yeah.

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It's scary but exciting at the same time.

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It's just in the moment. It's the ultimate yes and experience.

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Someone's going to say something and hit someone and go on to the next person.

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They'll throw you out there. You just figure it out. Yeah.

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Wow, that's exciting. I told you I've never been to a show, so I got to come and watch you. You got to come.

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I'm curious, when is there a moment, and you've had so many different matches over the last 10, 15 years, when was the match or the moment that you were in the most flow, that you felt like 100% authentic to you, that the words were flowing, the movement was flowing, like it was all connecting and the audience was connected to you.

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Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What year is this? It's 2018. 2018, okay. I want people to get your book. It's beautiful stories, lessons about someone from, you know, really a small town, small country who was able to become one of the biggest stars in the world and all the different life lessons and stories along the way which are really inspiring. So I want people to get a copy of

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Your book, The Man, Not Your Average Average Girl. Make sure you guys check this out by Rebecca Quinn. Really inspiring stuff and just some really cool stories in here that I think people will like, whether you're into WWE or not. Again, I've never been to a match, but I thought all this stuff was fascinating. So I'm coming one of these days. I'm going to be there.

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I have three final questions for you, Rebecca. The first one is called The Three Truths. It's a hypothetical question. So I'd like you to imagine, if you can, a moment, that you get to live as long as you want in this world, but it's your last day, many years away. You get to pick as old as you wanna be, but eventually you gotta turn the lights off for yourself.

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And in this hypothetical world, you have to take everything with you. So no one has access to this book, our conversation, any piece of content that's ever been out, anything you create from this moment moving forward, it has to go with you when you leave.

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But on the last day, you get to leave behind three lessons to the world, three things you know to be true, and that's all you would ever be able to leave behind to everyone else. What would be those three truths for you?

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seeing it before it happens. Yeah. We, you know, in football, we'd watch it once a week, game film, but not, you know, after every game, it was only one game a week. You got like three, three weeks. Yeah. Yeah.

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It's contained. It's contained.

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That's beautiful. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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I don't know. Tom Brady's obsessive over game film as well. I mean, watching his show that came out, Tom versus time was all about him just in there studying even months after the game he's studying to prepare. Right. It's just like, he's not stopped. And that's one of the keys, you think.

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It's like if you're not watching film, whether it be as a speaker on stage or a performer and a musician, if you're not watching yourself back. You've got to learn, man.

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So let's go ahead and dive in. The thing I love the most about you is that you really care about other human beings. Your heart is so big, even though you've been known for this focus mentality that is just almost psycho in some ways, but you care deeply about human beings. And I think that's why so many people love you as well.

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Now, did you have your teammates also follow on this obsessiveness that you had as well, or did you just encourage them or what was the.

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So you'll show them the game from a little bit here and there.

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Let's do it. Yeah, yeah. What about season 16, 17, 18? Are you still watching every game film as obsessively as the first 10 years?

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How do I lift everyone else up? It's tough. I mean, you were so dominant in your whole career. one of the greatest of all time, was there a weakness that you had? Or did you, because obviously you're always trying to master your weaknesses so they became strengths, but at the end, or towards the end, did you ever feel like, gosh, I still haven't mastered this one part of the game?

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Do you feel like you never really had the compassion you wish you would have had? Like until the last maybe couple years?

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Yeah. Wow. What are you most proud of from your 20 seasons?

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So I want to acknowledge you for your kindness and your generosity towards humanity. My first question for you is I'm curious about Who was your greatest teacher growing up? Because you had an interesting childhood being in Italy for a while, coming back to Philadelphia, I think it was. Who was the greatest teacher for you in those early days?

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Wow. What do you think the biggest challenge is for most athletes after they retire?

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At any time when you were playing, you mean? Yeah.

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Wow. That was that. What was the vision for you afterwards then? Was it to do what you're doing now? Did you have other ideas or what is what's the vision?

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Was it more money thinking or?

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And I remember going for- Didn't you launch a fund or something?

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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People also need perspective. I think you gain a mindset when you experience a perspective that wakes you up. We were just talking about, you know- Indian culture, I've been to India, I've been to Guatemala five times, I go to Mexico all the time, even in wealthy areas of Mexico.

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The thing that breaks my heart the most and gives me a lot of perspective and a lot of appreciation for my life is when I see seven-year-old girls walking in the street, nine-year-old boys, four-year-old girls walking by themselves with little candies

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working all day and all night to survive that day because their parents don't have money and their parents are out working as well, selling whatever they can sell. And you see a girl trying to get 20 pesos for a little piece of gum or something or a little candy. And that is her life every day. She's walking the streets in Mexico or Guatemala or India or whatever it might be to survive that day.

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And it puts your mindset in perspective. Yeah. When you're eating at a nice restaurant and you're getting your cup of coffee and you're spending $8 for coffee and you see a child working 12 hours a day because she needs to support the parents to live that day. It puts your life in perspective and makes you realize, okay- Maybe I can be more fulfilled with what I have.

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Maybe I can make some different choices. Maybe I can appreciate where I'm working right now, or I can appreciate what I've created for myself far. Maybe I don't have to be so jealous of everyone else around me of what they're buying and consuming or where they're going on their trips. I can value my life in a different way. And I think perspective like that wakes you up in a big way.

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What is the personality type do you think that is for starting or buying a business versus a personality type that is not for owning a business?

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Can you say those one more time?

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Working 80-hour weeks for years, probably.

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And that was an employee job. You were an employee. You were making a lot of money as an employee, but that was what it took to put in the time, to have a skill set at the right business, to deliver results, to get that type of income. It took you 78 hours a week.

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So you can't do it with like 40 hours a week, just kind of casually showing up and expect like multiple six figures. I don't think so. Do you know any business that's paying someone to just do the bare minimum?

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Unless you have the money.

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Right, right, right.

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You can lose it all.

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How valuable do you need to be? How much do you need to be earning for that business, like bringing in for that business?

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That's the worst.

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So if you're not a personality type that doesn't like risk, you shouldn't be a business owner.

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How many hours do you put in a week on average as a business owner versus when you're an employee?

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And now as an owner.

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Yeah, it's yours.

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And you couldn't pay him the salary where he's making it in a big company?

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He's not managing payroll. He's not having to hire and fire people necessarily, or maybe that's his job, but he's not. dealing with having to bring in all the money constantly to keep the business running.

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So you go five years making no money, essentially.

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Working more hours than as an employee. Right. What's the benefit then if you spend a half a decade of your life where most likely you're going to fail?

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It doesn't seem exciting then.

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Everyone thinks it's the best idea ever. You're going to sell millions.

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What are the main reason people are selling their profitable businesses then? If a business has been profitable for five or 10 years and it's so hard to be successful, why sell the business?

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Yeah, he's a buddy.

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I got him connected. He's lost a lot of weight in the last year because I got him set up with my trainers. No way. Yeah, so he's been just transforming his health. He's been doing great.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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So your mind and your words and your actions need to be in congruency and alignment.

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What would you say are five things people should look for when finding a great deal or an investment in real estate?

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Really? Oh. What's the ego mean when they invest in ego?

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What a nice home.

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Unless you're living in it, maybe.

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When did you really learn about how to manifest in your life? Was there a time or a season or a decade where you started to think a certain way when it came to either attracting the right clientele as a realtor in terms of attracting the right homes that you wanted to buy and invest in, in terms of business deals that you wanted to do?

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Was there a season or a time that you learned about manifestation?

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Really? What was the secret?

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Mm hmm. What would you say are the three most painful mistakes in business that you've made over the last 30 plus years that really taught you an important lesson?

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Really? Yeah. Because. You mean people you knew or people you didn't know?

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What type of distractions over the last 30 years did you find?

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Where did that come from?

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People pleasing, trying to fit in, doing whatever others do.

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I know that feeling. And you felt like you only had worth based on who you were with, it sounded like. Yeah. Or who you were friends with or who you were dating or who you were married to.

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What made you think that? And what made you realize and actually start to believe that?

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Yeah, right. You got more out of it than he did, probably.

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That's beautiful. Yeah. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

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In a moment of time when it seems like inflation is rising higher than ever, it seems like people are more in debt than ever, and it seems like we don't know who to trust. The government seems like some of them could be lying to us potentially about the economy. There are so many wars that are causing transfers of money that we're not sure where the money is going.

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Judging people who have money.

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So when you say then... That the government is designed to keep people poor unless they're willing to invest in financial literacy and education and make the right choices to get them into creating more wealth.

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student loans, debt is at an all-time high, and it's harder and harder for people to make money these days. We brought on one of the leading experts on the internet today, Jaspreet Singh, who is a trusted individual and advisor to millions around the world about money, managing money, making money, understanding money in their lives.

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People that are making under $100,000? People that are making it from $100,000 to $500,000 a year? Or people that are making $500,000 to $1 million a year? Over the next few years, with the elections, the economy, wars, inflation, who is at the biggest risk financially?

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I'm confused, and I feel like a lot of people are confused around money. Can you give us any insights on how we should first emotionally navigate the money troubles that millions of people are dealing with today.

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And you're not living out of your means. So you've figured out how to have a comfortable lifestyle, a lifestyle that suits you, that aligns with your financial income, and you're not choosing to overspend. And I've met a lot of people who rent, who have great relationships, who have good family ties and community that are able to use their time without having to spend money to have fun. Yeah.

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To enjoy their life. Yeah. Beyond, obviously, you've got to buy food and you've got to pay rent and bills and expenses, but they don't need to overspend. They can go in nature. They can go on walks. They can be with their dog or their friends or family and do things and activities that stimulate more fulfillment and joy than spending on watches and clothes.

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com right now and get yourself a copy.

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start to develop some of those instincts or a game plan and what what financial advice would you give to millennials who who don't have these these tools yet besides obviously getting your book and starting to practice some of these things but i feel like millennials are overspending more than ever they're uneducated on finances and personal finances what what advice would you have there pay attention to the feedback you get from the realities you encounter yeah okay i mean

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do you think it's you have the wealthiest friends in the world you're friends with uh some of the wealthiest people in the world do you think it's easier to uh get wealthy wealthy or stay wealthy which one is harder to do get there or stay there stay there is definitely harder to do than get there getting there can also be like has a certain element of luck you know um

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Yeah. When you doubt a decision or maybe just a moment in your life, personal or business related, doesn't matter when you, when you're in doubt of something, what is your personal mantra to get you back to a kind of a centered aligned place where you can make a better decisions?

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where you go hanged around a little bit is okay yeah right so how do you have confidence when you're doubting yourself and you're like i think this is going to do well based on all the math and historical evidence and feelings how do you have confidence when you you know

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You mentioned a team going through the jungle with you and supporting you, whether it be mentors or hiring. How have you learned to bring together this great team that you've assembled? where people are gonna disagree with you. It sounds like people would have different thoughts and be able to free to disagree with you on certain things. How do you know when the disagreement becomes toxic?

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When you can look at it from the point of view of like, okay, I need this disagreeing thought, but when does it become toxic where you actually need to let go of that person in your life or on your team?

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And how have you personally learned how to disassociate the maybe personal attack against your ideas or your position on an on a stance of whatever? between someone personally attacking you and just, oh, this is a curious idea that they have. Let me ask them more about it. How have you learned how to do that? And what advice would you have for others?

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Right. So you stop thinking, okay, my way is the way you start basing it based on data and scorecards results.

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Yeah. But did you at one point in your life for a period of time, Were you committed to your way and thinking that you had the answers?

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That's it. So first, having the ability to have delayed gratification, then obviously diving in, researching, testing and trying different things. But the more and more you can say you don't want something now for greater later is the essential key.

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Yeah. What is thoughtful disagreement in your mind? And how important is that in this moment, especially with the, this political unrest and economic unrest and just everything, how do people have thoughtful disagreement as opposed to kind of toxic disagreement?

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When it's escalating, when people are yelling at each other.

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That's why I love your principles and protocols. What happens if we don't speak about money in a healthy way?

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You wrote like a love letter to money.

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This is a topic that I've been fascinated about for decades because I didn't have money at one point. Also, I was living on my sister's couch for a year and a half. I couldn't pay for the rent. I didn't buy food. I was just like living off of her for a year and a half while I was recovering from a surgery, a wrist that I broke playing football. And I was afraid of it.

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Yeah. Cause there's lots of places to put it for investments. There's real estate, there's stocks, there's building your own company. There's different places to invest. What have you found are the top places that people should be investing?

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My father also got into a pretty bad car accident a year prior to me getting injured, where he was kind of that, like, lifeline for me, where he'd give me $100 when I needed it and paid for things and just said, hey, you know, go live your dreams. And when you're done, we'll figure out what you're going to do with the job. He got in a car accident.

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He had extreme head trauma, was in a coma for three months. Oh, my God. Ended up surviving, but wasn't able to work anymore. So he was physically alive, emotionally and mentally kind of not here.

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So he passed, but it was 17 years of him struggling, right, to try to recover. So I had this, you know, father backup to support me financially in a sense. I mean, just give me 20 or 100 bucks here and there.

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And he was no longer able to do that. Wow. So I remember being fascinated by this conversation 20 years ago because I was like, I don't understand it. I don't know how to make it. I don't know why anyone would give me money. You know, where does my value come from? Like, how am I going to ask someone for money when I don't even know what skills or values I have? Right, right, right.

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And early on, I started to learn from these mentors and coaches teaching me about money. And one of them was around the way we speak about money. Because if we are essentially saying this is bad and evil or I'm not good enough for this, then why would that thing come to us if we think it's bad and evil? We're going to be rejecting it.

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Or if we don't think we're deserving of it, why would we receive it? Why would we bring it into us? Right. And so I had to really shift this conversation 20 years ago around money. And do what you talk about, which is just having more open conversations.

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Not talking about it like it's this hush-hush thing, but just being more open and conversational and not being so emotionally heightened when you talk about it. And learn from a peaceful place of talking about it. So I love that you have this write a letter to money. Yeah. And really, I tell people, like... If you want your money to appreciate, you must appreciate it. Exactly. Yes.

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And treat it like you're the greatest lover of your life. Right. Yes. Treat it like if you want your partner to be investing in you and to be giving you words of affirmation and physical touch and like gifts. If you want all these love languages, then you've got to pour into it. Appreciate the partner you're with.

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Tell them how grateful you are every day. Tell them what you love about them, what you see in them. And when you appreciate a person, like you said, or if you appreciate money, it can appreciate in value and come to you in return.

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So now when you write a statement or a mantra that you're wanting to step into, but you don't believe it yet. Mm-hmm. Is that lying to yourself or how do we overcome this thing that, okay, this is what I want and this is what I'm stepping into and the feelings I want to experience, but I don't have it yet. And that's not actually true yet.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money and This moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to this episode on the School of Greatness.

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Do you feel like, okay, you said you're around 40 years young when this kind of happened. Was there something in your life that was like, I'm just sick and tired of feeling this way after two decades or... Like, I just want to see what's possible for me in this next decade. Or is there something around that time that made you say, all right, this hasn't worked for 40 years of my life. Yeah.

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Now I want to try something different.

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My friend, Dean Graciosi says, we pay attention to what we pay for. Do you think you making this investment in a coach made you pay attention more to, okay, now we're going to make my money back and I'm going to make more than my money back. So I'm going to focus, I'm going to do all the painful things that she tells me to do And I'm going to be the best student I can be.

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Is that what your thought was because you invested?

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Because you can decide to invest, but you're still not committed to taking the action and doing whatever it takes.

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Before you weren't committed.

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Because you had the emotional blocks that were just half

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I've read it hundreds of times.

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Yeah. What was the biggest takeaway from that book?

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Wow. So how do we know that we are in harmony and congruency with our desires? that it's for something not just selfish and self-serving by itself or ego driven, but more, I don't know, driven by something greater.

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You know, because if someone says, well, I want to make a lot of money or I want to make $100,000 in a year or $500,000 or whatever it is or millions, how do we line up our desires with our authentic selves so that we don't hurt ourselves in the process of making money or it become overwhelming, daunting, or draining?

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And does it give me meaning? Yeah. And is it meaningful? Yeah. Is it meaningful? Yeah. I like that. Yeah. And where were you at 39 doing things that weren't fun? They drained your energy and they didn't give you meaning?

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Or at least start working towards it because you may not be able to at this season, but you got to focus on it. Can I get one?

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When was the biggest aha moment for you then? Like, was it after you made a certain amount of money or a client paid you something? Or was it just a feeling you had, like releasing all of it in the process of working? Like, when was that moment where you're like, I'm actually emotionally and mentally free around the idea of money? Oh, interesting. Um, maybe I'm not.

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Money is currency and currency is energy.

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Imposter syndrome.

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You're like, I should have been 15.

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Well, here's the thing. It's not like he would charge you 12 hours on an hour. Obviously, you created a position and a packaging of services that would over-deliver, that would serve him a big way.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not like, I'm just going to charge some number and give very little.

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You made sure that the value was there. Totally. How did you learn to package and position your value to be able to charge for what you wanted?

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Because you pay attention to what you pay for.

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You'll rise to the occasion. Like I got to focus.

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I got to show up on time. I'm going to deliver the results on time. Absolutely. Give my best here. Yep. Interesting. So now here's, I'm curious about the next thing. Was that everything to the story first off? I want to make sure I get it.

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Not, not real estate, not stocks, not the market.

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Okay. Money is currency and currency is energy. I'm curious about the next thing. So once this happened and you sold a $12,000 package and you were like, this is crazy and this is more money than I've ever made in my life essentially in two days, did you fall back at any point or did you stay focused?

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Oh, sure. And they decided and then, well, I tried it again and it didn't work. So maybe this is a fluke. Maybe this is a one time. Right. The thermometer goes back down to what they're comfortable and familiar with.

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100 grand for like a year of coaching? Wow.

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It's different levels.

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You feel comfortable at this level, but if you want to break through- Exactly.

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You do something you've never done, it means you've got to have a different frequency still, right?

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Do you feel like you're kind of at like a block right now? Because again, you've sold, I don't know, five or 10 million copies of your books. You've got a coaching program. You've got all these success, financial freedom, all these different things. But is there like a level you've reached that you feel like, okay, well, can I break through that?

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This is so much now and I feel abundant, but could you break through?

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What's your biggest, what's your biggest fear or insecurity around money right now?

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Right, right, right.

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Well, you're being honest about it, I think.

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There's one thing about speaking it out loud so it doesn't happen, but another thing about saying it so it doesn't have power over you.

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If you're afraid of it, like you're afraid to have the conversation around money, I'm all a believer, like don't speak into something that exists because you don't want that to happen. But I think when I started talking about my fears and my shame and my insecurity, it actually felt like the poison was coming out of me.

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And now I can see it outside of me or I could have a conversation with it as opposed to it being in me and afraid to talk about. Right. And then I could get coaching about it. With all the tools and all the distractions and all the social media and all the apps and all the responsibilities that we have in our life, is there a way to multiply time and to become more productive?

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No matter how many hours you didn't sleep, you felt tired and you were working sluggish and trying to get it all done, everything.

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When you mean linear way, do you mean focusing on our priorities?

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Right. How do you know which actions to focus on urgently that will have impact over the long haul?

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When you've got everything significant.

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What would you say is the mindset that wealthy people have around making it and growing their money for them versus the mindset of people that stay stuck in not making it?

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What do we feel most guilty about? We feel most guilty about not doing something that we want to do, about delaying something, about wasting our time.

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So give me an example of your life or someone's business or career or whatever it might be.

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Which took 20 hours of their life.

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But if you're saying you're too busy and overwhelmed, check to where you're spending your time the most.

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If it's six hours on Instagram a day and you're not creating something of significance and you're just browsing, or if you're 20 hours a week on TV and I'm overwhelmed and tired and exhausted, then just look at where you're spending your time.

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27 hours a week. How much is that a day?

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Four hours a day of TV?

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That's a lot of time.

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Even if you just cut half of that down and you watch two hours a day of TV and you spend two hours on your side hustle or something else, your health, your relationships, imagine the benefits you would have down the line.

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Especially when you get to a certain level of success where there's a lot of opportunities and cool things and exciting things and new shiny objects. We want to do lots of things. High achievers, people that have gotten out of the weeds of their life and they have different problems, which are opportunity problems. Again, first world problems.

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It's how do you focus your time and energy and making the decisions that you want to focus on now?

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for your future and that is a challenge in just making decisions decision fatigue is a thing for people and learning how to place importance on the things that you want to spend your time on is going to be key for you totally and a lot of people the decision fatigue what happens is they it it it does wear on you and so a lot of people

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So what happens is... They make what, emotional decisions, reaction decisions?

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What if everything matters to you?

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What do you think they'd say? It takes too much time. It takes too much time. It's easier to do it myself right now, just a couple minutes every day, as opposed to figuring out the system, figuring out the software, learning it, going through the training, hiring someone, teaching them all the time and energy. I might as well just do it myself right now.

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Because if you did do automate, you would save time or you'd multiply time and you'd earn more money from your time doing something else.

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I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you are looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to makemoneyeasybook.com. dot com right now and get yourself a copy.

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I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. We have some big guests and content coming up. Make sure you're following and stay tuned to the next episode on the School of Greatness. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.

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Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I want to remind you if no one has told you lately that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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You're a very philanthropic individual, you and your wife, uh, your foundation, your company, you give back in a lot of ways. Some might be through donations, like computers, some might be through financial Some might be through just your work and your content on LinkedIn, which is amazing. I recommend everyone subscribe to on LinkedIn. The content there is amazing.

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You're giving back in lots of ways. I'm curious, what's the greatest gift a rich person or someone with money can give someone who doesn't have money?

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What would you say then are the three greatest skills that people that aren't financially abundant or that are struggling financially, should learn to master in order to be in a better position financially, three skills, what would you say they should learn?

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I love that you talk about the sports analogy, the Olympics. You're speaking my language now as a former football player. Some of the greatest quarterbacks seem to get not too high. They get excited, but not too excited and not too low when things go good or bad. How important is that skill to be emotionally resilient on both levels, high and low, for you? How important is that skill?

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And I said, okay, I want to do it every week. I want to reach 100 million lives a week. And so I was like, all right, that's, That seems like a big stretch, but it's a quantifiable number, and it will force me to get creative, get resourceful. It'll force me to overcome my fears and insecurities that hold me back.

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It'll force me to develop new skills and talents, to think beyond where I'm currently at so that I could potentially achieve that goal one day. And so it just excited me. And it seemed far away. It gives me something to measure, and it gets me something to be excited about every day.

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When I focus on the mission, which is service, there can be different... mechanisms that can do it. If podcasting dies tomorrow, then I don't want to be, well, I'm only a podcaster now, I can't service the mission anymore with this mechanism, because the mechanism's gone. And there's always a message within the mechanism to serve the mission.

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And so the message will continue to evolve and expand, whether it's packaging content and storytelling in a book and giving tools and resources so people can consume it this way, whether it's audio, whether it's video, whether it's AI, it's always going to evolve and expand.

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But there's a mission, and then you gotta figure out what are the mechanisms that will serve you in accomplishing the mission's goal, which is 100 million lives weekly. And then there's a message. What is the message that you're going to use and share? Am I sharing the message? Is it audio? Is it video message? Is it a written message? Is it other people's messages?

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How can I distribute that message through the mechanisms to serve the mission? And so I'm just trying to think of what are the things that excite me that I'm good at, that I'm talented at, that I enjoy doing. Those mechanisms, sharing the message through those mechanisms to get to the mission faster. That's what I think about. I haven't mastered it.

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I don't feel like I'm close to figuring it out, but we have something we can measure every single week to support us in getting there faster.

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Yeah, it's really figuring out the talents that you have, the skill sets you have. It's figuring out what makes you unique, and then how can I go profit from these talents? How can I go monetize these talents? What are the tools and the things available for me to do these things?

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When we figure out those two areas, I feel like there's a sweet spot there in between that that we could take action on. And for me, again, it was, I didn't think I had a lot of talent. I didn't think I had a lot of skill, but I was curious. And I go, how can I use this talent of curiosity? Is this a talent? I didn't think it was, but I was like, there's a hidden talent of curiosity there.

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So how can I use this to make money and to make an impact? Okay. I don't have to be the voice. I can interview people. I didn't know how to use video or how to use audio at the time, but I was like, these are tools available out there. How can I use these tools and ask questions? Can I make money around this? I have no idea.

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But the more I did it, the more I showed up and was of service to people, I was able to monetize these things. And so for me, I didn't know the path, but I started to ask myself, what are my talents? What are the things I'm really good at? What are some mechanisms out there that I could start tapping into?

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And then how can I just take action consistently around this so that I can figure out how to make a living doing the things I enjoy doing?

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Well, on page 204, I have a graph. I have a chart. And I don't know if we got you a book or not, but there's a graph here for people. Sorry, 201. And I show the difference between a greatness mindset and a powerless mindset. So a lot of people live in a powerless state.

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And it doesn't mean they're in a powerless state all the time, but they might have one or two areas that make them feel more powerless than powerful. And so I'll just share these six categories of a powerless mindset versus a greatness mindset and use this as an assessment. So if you're listening or watching, just ask yourself, okay, am I doing any of these things?

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If so, you may feel like you are powerless in your day-to-day or your decision-making, or you feel like there's a weight on your shoulders. It's probably because of one of these six things are happening. So a powerless mindset occurs when you lack a meaningful mission. So when I was living on my sister's couch,

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for a year and a half and I was in a cast and had a surgery and didn't know what I was gonna do in my life, I lacked a meaningful mission and I felt powerless. I was like, who am I? What's the point? What am I doing here? I felt very powerless. People think they need to get it all figured out for the rest of their life. And it's really season by season. What is the mission of this season?

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This season can be for the next six months, the next six years, the next whatever. We don't have to define, I need to know what I'm going to do for the rest of my life. It's what is this season's calling? And getting clear on the meaningful mission will make you step into a greatness mindset versus a powerless mindset. So when you lack a meaningful mission, you're going to feel powerless.

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You're not going to feel as courageous, as strong. You're not going to have belief in yourself when you're in this state. The second thing is you're controlled by fear. A lot of people are consumed by fear, and there's three types of fear that cause us to doubt ourselves. The first one being the fear of failure. The second one being the fear of success.

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Believe it or not, almost 50% of people are just as afraid of their own success as they are their own failure. And the third main fear that causes us to doubt ourselves is the fear of judgment, people's opinions. And this causes us to be crippled by making decisions, by acting courageously on our dreams. I don't know, Hala, if you've ever asked someone, what is your goal and what's your dream?

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And they say, I want to launch my own podcast. I want to write a book. I want to start a business. I want to get into a relationship, whatever it is. And you ask them, how long have you been thinking about this? And people say, five years, seven years, 20 years. I've been wanting to write that book. And one of those three fears holds them back.

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The fear of failure, the fear of success, and the fear of judgment. And so these are factors that cause people to hesitate, to not take that step forward. And so we got to understand what's the root of one of these three fears that we all have faced at different times. There is a root underneath those fears. And typically the root is, I am not enough.

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And when we believe I am not enough, we are going to allow one of these three fears to run our lives as opposed to us running through them and beyond them. So when we are controlled by fear, we are powerless. We are in a powerless state. We're saying this has power over me, so I'm not taking action. The third thing is crippled by self-doubt. Fear and self-doubt play hand in hand.

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When we are controlled by fear, we usually have an insecurity. I'm not going to be enough, so my self-doubt is holding me back. I am therefore powerless to these opinions, these beliefs. The fourth thing I don't think a lot of people talk about this in the different habit, mindset, success books of the world. The fourth thing is that they conceal past pains.

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So for 25 years, I held on to a pain and secrets that no one knew about me. I was sexually abused when I was a kid and no one knew it. And I was terrified. I concealed this past pain. It was like a poison running through my psyche, my body, my heart, my energy, everything that

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because I was ashamed and I thought if people knew this about me, no one would accept me or love me and I would die if they actually knew this about me. That was the story running through my mind constantly and I was afraid of the opinions and judgments of others. That was my biggest fear. I was not afraid of failure or success.

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But people's opinions crippled me because I had this shame and guilt inside of my soul. And when we conceal past pains, I'm not saying you need to say everything publicly to the world, but when you're holding on to something that is a poison inside of you, it will make you feel powerless. You will not be stepping into the greatness mindset with this inside of you. So we've got to learn to heal.

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Most of my book is about healing. It's a Trojan horse for processing, healing, and getting out the poison inside of us so that we can thrive at the highest levels. Most of these books don't talk about revealing past pain, but from all the research and the 10 years of doing this, This is the path. It is the path to achieving greatness is by setting yourself free emotionally and psychologically.

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The fifth thing is being defined by the opinions of others. This is something I mentioned already a couple of times. When we are defined by people, they have control over us. They control our decisions and our actions because we're so concerned about their opinions. So therefore, you are powerless if someone else is controlling you. And the sixth thing is you drift towards complacency.

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I'm not saying you need to be striving to be making more and doing more all the time, but I just feel like when we are drifting, when we are wanderers, and we aren't improving or growing in some area of our life, we feel powerless.

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These six areas of your life, I would ask everyone to do an assessment, a self-assessment, and say, is there any one of these things that's happening for me right now or maybe causing me to doubt myself more? If so, there's a way to break through them. You have the awareness now. Then we've got to make a decision and a commitment to break through to get into the greatness mindset.

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And the greatness mindset is the sixth opposite. It's driven by a meaningful mission. You heard mine. Impact 100 million lives every single week. I'm driven by that, and it's meaningful for me. It gives me a direction. It gives me a place to go towards that I can measure that excites me. It doesn't mean it's not challenging at times.

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It doesn't mean I don't go through pain and hardships and certain agony at moments, but at least I know where I'm heading. Second thing is you turn the fears into confidence. And fears are going to come at different stages and seasons. As we unlock new potential, there's going to be a new fear and uncertainty. So we have to keep driving into the fear, turning into confidence.

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You overcome self-doubt is number three, as opposed to letting it cripple you. Number four, healing past pains. not concealing them. When we heal, we become greater than our past powerless self. The fifth thing is creating a healthy identity. Most of us, Hala, say a lot of negative things to ourselves unconsciously and outwardly. When someone compliments us, at times we diminish it.

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We say, no, it's not me. We put ourselves down and our body remembers and our body listens to the words and the thoughts that we have. So we must shift that into a healthy identity. And the sixth thing is taking action with a game plan. I'm not saying you're going to accomplish all your dreams and goals if you do these things, but you're going to feel a lot greater when you do.

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And you're going to have a deeper sense of peace, harmony, and alignment inside of your soul when you step into these things as opposed to being in the powerless mindset.

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I never was afraid of failure because in sports, I was taught that failure is the pathway to success. So for me, I knew that missing a shot didn't make me a failure. It just mean I needed to practice better technique. I need to learn better. I need to become bigger, faster, stronger. So it was all information. It was all feedback. Failure was always feedback.

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Information telling me what's not working yet and how to get better at the thing. So for me, it wasn't about failure because I understood through coaching and through sports that you have to fail in order to succeed. There's no way to not fail in order to succeed. So if you want success, this is the pathway. It's about reshaping what it means to you. A lot of people have a deeper meaning.

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If I lose or if I miss the shot or if I failed, then I am a failure. And I never identified with that as me being the failure. I was just like, oh, I wasn't prepared enough. Oh, I need to get faster. Oh, I need to get stronger. I need to have better technique. I need more reps. I didn't like the feeling of failure. failing or losing. I hated it, but it also drove me to get better.

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Success was not something that I was afraid of either, but most people are afraid of success. And I didn't understand this. When I started doing the research 10 years ago and asking people in large rooms, I'd say, how many people are afraid to fail? Most people would raise their hand. And I'd say, how many people in the room are afraid of success?

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And over 50% of the room would still raise their hand. And I was always like, what? Because you want to be successful, but you're afraid of it. So why would success come to you when you're afraid of it? You're resistant to it.

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you are scared of it, and yet you want it, you sound like a clingy girlfriend who wants to be in a relationship but is anxious and scared to be open and emotional and vulnerable but is needing your attention all the time or whatever it might be. If you want to be successful, you cannot be afraid of it. And I didn't understand. It didn't make sense to me.

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But then it started to make sense the more I asked people questions over the last 10 years. And really, when people become more successful, unfortunately, there's usually a couple people in their family or their close friend circle that is not accepting. Some people are like, you're amazing. Keep going. High five. You got this. But there are some people close to us

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that start to pull away, that think, huh, what are you doing? Are you better than us? Come back here. Come be comfortable, safe. Don't keep learning and growing and expanding beyond your reach. That makes me feel uncomfortable. When you leave the tribe to go for success, Not always the tribe is supporting of that journey you're going on.

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And that is a big factor for a lot of people who are married or their parents don't want them to do that or whatever it might be. When you want to grow and go beyond something, it can be scary for others. And you want community and love. And if you're leaving to go after something, or if that's what it looks like, then you may not get that love and attention and affection anymore.

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So it made sense to me. And over my journey, I lost a lot of friends. A lot of friends that I thought we were going to be friends forever just stopped returning my calls, just weren't as supportive or jealous of my success or whatever it might be. And it was sad and it hurt for a long time, these different stages.

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But I learned that's part of the process if you're going to grow and others aren't in alignment with your journey. It's important to find people in your friend circle who support your success so they can grow with you as well. Another fear that success has with a lot of people is the weight. There's an amazing documentary called The Weight of Gold, which is about Olympic gold medalists.

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who commit suicide, go through extreme depression, become addicted to drugs after they win the gold medal, and about all of the suffering that gold medalists have afterwards. They were happier before they won the gold medal. And it documents the lives of all these people that have committed suicide within a year or two after winning gold.

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Going after the gold they had their entire life, they win it. And then they die, they commit suicide, become drug addicts, they suffer, and they lose it all. In the documentation, there's this immense pressure that if you are not prepared to handle the fame, everyone talking about you, the success,

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Being at the top of the mountain and now needing to maintain that level of success is an extreme pressure. And that's why you see a lot of people go bankrupt after they make a lot of money. That's why you see a lot of lottery winners who make a lot of money go through death or go bankrupt as well within a couple of years. And you see people that exit big companies sometimes losing it all quickly.

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Because if you're not emotionally and mentally prepared for the success, you will sabotage it. That's why healing past pain is so important. Because you can win and succeed and make money, but if you have pain in your chest, guilt, shame, insecurity, all these things, that doesn't go away until you heal it.

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And if you heal it on the journey, you're going to be able to sustain the success in a different way and maintain it. I wasn't afraid of those things because I wanted to be successful. I wanted the weight. I wanted the pressure. It was challenging at times, but I wanted it. For me, it was the fear of judgment. That was the thing that crippled me.

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So when I was successful or growing or whatever, and I would get nasty comments online about stuff, it was almost as if I had to defend my life with these comments and had to reply to everyone. And I was so worried about what they would think about me. That's the thing that got me in trouble or crippled me until I learned to heal past pains, until I learned to realize I am enough. It's okay.

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People are going to have opinions about me. I can't please everyone. I'm not going to conform to everyone's opinion. That was part of the process for me.

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It can be an amazing driver. And it's what I did my whole life. It's because I was picked last on sports teams. And so I said, I'll never be picked last again. I'm always going to be the most valuable person on every sports team. And it drove me to train six hours a day as a kid and not play video games, but go outside and play sports all night until I had to come home.

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Because I was like, I'm never going to experience this pain again. And I'm going to prove everyone wrong. And I did it. I'd proved people wrong and I felt empty, unfulfilled, and I felt like exhausted, drained, emotionally frustrated, resentful, and all these anger emotions inside of me that continue to drive me. Until 10 years ago, I realized this is not sustainable.

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It got me external results, but left me feeling completely emotionally bankrupt. And it can only last so long until things fall apart, your relationships, your business, something, which everything fell apart for me 10 years ago. That's one of the reasons why I got into this show, starting this, because I was like, I need to learn how to heal. I need to learn how to not be driven by my ego.

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It's one of the reasons why I called it the School of Greatness. I didn't call it the Lewis Howe Show. I was like, my ego needs to die. I'm so worried about other people's opinions and proving people wrong. And that's what's causing me pain. Sure, that chip got me results and got me credibility and got me on stages and helped me make money. But why am I emotionally exhausted? The ego must die.

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And 10 years ago, I started to kill my ego and not make it about me. And I started to put the light on everyone else, shine the light on everyone, make it less about me, be of service, not about me being successful. And it started to shift. And by no means did I do it perfectly, and I still made mistakes and stumbled along the way. But that intention of letting go of my ego allowed me to thrive.

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Now, It's a dance because in a world of personal branding and being a host and being an author and writing books and being on the cover of magazines and stuff like this, you've got to learn to build a brand but not believe you're the best thing in the world and how to continue to be of service. And that's why I try to focus constantly to remind myself this is not about me and my success.

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This is about us and the service we have on the world. And when I do that, I feel a lot more harmony and peace than when I say it's all about me. So there's a dance because in marketing, you've got to promote things. You've got to promote yourself. You've got to promote your name. You've got to promote your brand. But I think internally, you've got to remind yourself this is about service.

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I think I had something inside of me calling me for something more in a moment of, or in many moments, many months of breakdown and sadness and kind of grieving, grieving the loss of my dream of playing football, grieving my father who was in the hospital for many months in a coma, and just kind of grieving loss in general, emotional, mental, physical loss. and having a lack of certainty.

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Yeah, just last night I was doing a session with my therapist and the conversation was, what do I want my 50 and 60-year-old self, 90 and 100-year-old self to say to me right now about the decisions I've been making on a daily basis? Because I've been very focused on my health. and almost making it a full-time job.

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Not in the sense of I'm spending 10 hours a day on my health, but I'm thinking and intending it to be optimized in a level that I've never fully done in the last 10 years.

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Now, I've also been a professional athlete and I've trained hard and all these things, but just being very intentional about nutrition, sleep, recovery, working out, and tracking and measuring it in a different way than I have before. And I was having a conversation with my, I'm 40 now, and I was having a conversation with myself as my 50-year-old.

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So I don't know if you can stay with me for a moment, but I was in the future having a conversation with my current self at 50 today. Then I went in the future at 60 and had a conversation with myself today. Then I went to 90 and 100. And I told myself,

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And I imagine the feeling that I had as a 50, 60, 90, and 100, and the appreciation I was telling myself today for how I was taking care of my health. Because at 50, at 60, I'm still able to work out like a 30-year-old, and I'm flexible, and I'm strong, and I'm running marathons, and I'm lifting heavy weights, and I've got muscle, and I'm flexible, and all these things.

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I've got all the capacities as a 30-year-old at 50 and 60. At 90 and 100, I was saying, thank you for taking care of me at 90 and 100 today at 40 by making these decisions. Because look at us. There's sadness all around us, unfortunately, because your friends are dying. Your friends are getting hip replacements.

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But you took care of us when it was uncomfortable, when it was challenging, when it was hard, when it wasn't easy. You said you were thinking about me and us at 90 and 100. So I was having these conversations with myself last night.

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doing these exercises, which allows me to be intentional about my decisions today, to not be so strict and hard on myself, but to be really intentional and deliberate about how I want to feel in the future. And I was having this multi-time dimensional conversation with self from the future and now, all last night.

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And I just think that's an important strategy or exercise that we should be thinking about our futures and making decisions today based on what will make our future self proud.

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I feel like I keep doing lots of different exercises, events, workshops, therapies. I'm willing to try lots of stuff. And what I originally did was 10 years ago, I just started opening up about it. I started talking about these things. I think the first step is finding a safe environment and space to be able to share. I'm not saying you need to post about things on social media.

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I didn't have certainty. I didn't have clarity about my future. I didn't know what the point of all this was. And so it was just very confusing time. And I didn't have any resources. I didn't have any money. I was in debt from my college loans. This was in 2008, 2009, when the economy in the US was essentially tanking. The housing crisis was tanking and everything.

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I don't think that's wise until you feel like, oh, I feel like I really want to do this for whatever reason. But finding spaces and people that you trust to talk to about your shames. And that's the first step is allowing it to get out of you, allowing the poison to get out of you. And then there's lots of different somatic things

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physical healing therapies and things like that and emotional therapies and retreats and workshops, and they're all great, I think. Anything you do, if you go all in on it, I think you'll get some results. If you've seen other people do it that recommend it and they've gotten results, as long as you go all in on the therapeutic experience, I think it will be serving to you.

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I've never personally done drugs or psychedelics. I've never been drunk or high in my life. So I don't prescribe to something that I haven't done, but I have friends that swear by psychedelics. I just, I'm more afraid of the side effects that the brain chemistry has based on the people I've interviewed who are experts in the brain, that I get worried about that stuff for long-term.

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But I think if you have tried everything and you feel like you're not getting any results, then that might be a last resort to allow your mind to relax and open up. But I think there's a lot of things you could do and it's worth exploring different things.

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Yeah, there's really two parts to it. It's one imagining and visualizing what you would like to experience on a perfect day. If you could close your eyes and think about it at some point in your life, what would this look like? What would this feel like? A day in a life that you feel like, wow, when you shut your eyes to go to bed, you said that was a perfect day.

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From every moment to moment, from the moment you wake up, where are you waking up? What do you see first thing when you wake up? What area of the world are you living when you wake up? Is there someone next to you? If so, what does that feel like? So putting yourself in an emotional state of all five senses, imagining that perfect day scenario.

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And obviously, if you did the same thing every day, it wouldn't be perfect anymore. But just imagine what that experience, that feeling would be like. Mm-hmm. And then writing it down, writing it down what that dream is like, that experiential feeling is like. Writing it down in detail and description is part one. Part two is flipping the page over and scheduling it.

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You know, something I learned early on when I was 15, I've joined the football team for the first time. Day one in my locker was a piece of paper hanging up on my locker and every kid's locker that was the itinerary for practice. And I'm thinking, I'm just going to go out there and kind of run around and just got drills. But every five minutes was scheduled.

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from putting on our pads, to water breaks, to coaches giving us talking and giving us speeches, to stretch breaks, to offense, defense, special teams, to individual practice time. Every minute was detailed. It made sense because it allowed us to prepare and put attention on all the things to become great as a team and have the perfect game.

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And I didn't have my father, who was kind of my backup bank account. If I needed money, he would give me like 50 bucks here and there. It was like a security blanket almost. Like, okay, go chase your dream. When you're done, you can come and I'll hire you for my company type of thing. So I didn't have that anymore. So I had to learn how to be resourceful.

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to excel in the perfect way when game time happened at the end of the weeks. And so I think when we get intentional about our schedule and our time, and we marry it with the vision, the experience of the senses, we can take action on the perfect day almost every day. And it's just figuring out how to work into that, how to work into that experience and that feeling.

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And there's, again, different seasons and stages of my life that didn't feel perfect. I was a truck driver for three months, driving eight hours a day. I did a lot of different odd end jobs at different times. It's figuring out, okay, how can I build into it? How can I use my gifts and my talents at this time to enjoy this, to experience something beautiful?

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And then if this is not for me right now, what can I step into next? What's the next season to get closer to that perfect day? That's what it's about.

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focus on gratitude. I just think that gratitude is a universal energetic law that allows you to open the doorway for abundance. When we are grateful and we experience gratitude continuously, our energy shifts around us. Our attitude, our perspective, our way of being shows up differently. And people... are attracted to others who are positive, who are kind, who are generous, and who are grateful.

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We aren't attracted to people who are ungrateful and frustrated and negative. That's not an attractive quality. when you express gratitude from the inside out, people gravitate towards you.

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And you will create more opportunities, whether it's in your career, you'll advance farther, or if you're starting a business, it will be more effortless feeling, and you'll attract more abundance in the journey.

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It just goes back to healing. I know a lot of wealthy people who are miserable internally or who are sick or who are physically overweight and struggling because they have yet to heal. And you could build the business and make all the money and know all the celebrities and get in all the press and have the biggest following. But if you are

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sick emotionally or unwell and you have yet to heal the things that cause you the most pain, then you're really living in a powerless state. And having it all but feeling powerless internally is one of the greatest prisons we can be in psychologically because you don't know what else to do.

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You've done everything to become more successful and make more money and accomplish, but you still don't feel enough. And for me, that's a prison sentence psychologically. And until we heal, we will never feel enough.

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Lewis Howes, anywhere on social media and the School of Greatness podcast.

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I had to learn how to kind of fend for my own, really, and how to tap into a network of people that I didn't know, but I felt like I needed to know. So that's when I started reaching out to mentors, coaches, guides. I started consuming as much as I could in terms of resources and books, going to conferences, and just trying to meet people, learn from people, and take action.

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So that was kind of that journey then.

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Yeah, I started on LinkedIn end of 2007, actually. I think there was only about 12 million people on the platform at the time. I wrote a book about LinkedIn in 2009. There was one other book about it, but I think there's probably hundreds of books about it now. But I was one of the first that wrote a book about LinkedIn.

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And I became obsessed with it early on because a mentor said, why don't you check it out? Maybe you can find a job there. And I was just trying to network on there originally. LinkedIn was not as robust as it is now.

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And so after about five years, I kind of gave up on LinkedIn because it was so powerful in the beginning for me, but then they weren't innovating like other social media platforms were. And they did not connect with creators, influencers. They didn't have any support for someone like me back then. So I really felt like they neglected the community, in my opinion.

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And then I guess about five, six years ago, they started to innovate their platform. and add more tools and resources for creators, I slowly got back on because I kind of got burnt out from LinkedIn because it just was, it was so challenging to work with the platform and the team at LinkedIn wasn't responsive as they are now.

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It was a launching pad in sense of building powerful connections early on for me. And I met some incredible people that I networked with on the platform that I'm still friends with today back in 2007.

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There's a friend of mine who is a mega billionaire now that I met in 2007 by just sending him a direct message on LinkedIn and us building a friendship over the years and going to events together and watching each other grow. And I just saw him a couple months ago. And it's like all because of LinkedIn, the power of connection. So it's been an amazing platform in general.

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I wish I would have used it when I had my podcast launch because I actually didn't use LinkedIn that much when I launched the show.

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Yeah. In 2012, I was going through a transition in my business at the time. I had an online marketing company. I was kind of getting burnt out by what I was doing. And I just didn't feel like it was meaningful to me anymore. It was still like powerful. It was making money, but it wasn't like a deeper meaning, sense of purpose.

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And what I was doing, though, is I was using LinkedIn before then to connect with coaches and mentors and leaders. And I would meet with a lot of them in person. And I was getting so much wisdom and knowledge from them when I would ask them questions. I was just like, I should probably record these. And I've heard of this thing called podcasting. No one really knows what it is at the time, 2012.

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But I was like, I feel like it might be big one day. I said, all right, I'm going to, I called two friends that had a podcast. There was probably only 50 people at the time that had podcasts. And I called two of them. They told me they loved it. They loved the experience. They loved the connection with the community. They felt like it was

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the most engaged type of content they were able to create with people in the community. So I said, I think I could do this. I have no clue what I'm doing. I've never done this before. I didn't go to school for this, but I feel like I can figure it out. Let me try it for one year. I'll do it once a week for a year as an experiment. And if it doesn't work out, then I'll stop.

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But I fell in love right away. And now 10 years later, 1400 plus episodes later, almost a billion downloads later, it's still going.

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Yeah, it was almost eight years ago after maybe it was two or three years into the podcast. I started to see probably the third year in, I was like, oh, okay, this is a thing. And there are lots of other people starting to jump in. I would say I was like the second wave of people that jumped into podcasting.

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If Joe Rogan was like two years before me, and then there was just like some underground tech podcasts, that was essentially it. There were no bigger shows. There were some big shows at that time in the small ecosystem, but it wasn't mainstream. Then there was guys like me and Pat Flynn and Rich Roll kind of all came in around the same time, maybe within a six month window in 2012, 2013.

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And so we were kind of like the second wave of people jumping in and trying to figure it out. And then probably 2015, I think that was probably around the time when Serial came out and it became more mainstream podcasting. And then there was, that's kind of the third wave. And now it just keeps, the waves keep coming.

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I remember around that time, I was just like, I don't know, I feel like this is just going to keep getting bigger. And it's hard to innovate audio, at least it was at the time. And I still think it is kind of hard to innovate audio at this time. It's not viral. It's not really shareable that well. It's You can only do so much with the editing. There's only so many things you can do.

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So I was like, I feel like I need to film these and just put them up on YouTube and use it as a promotional tool to promote the audio. And so for five years, that's what I did. I put them on YouTube. I would cut up clips, put it on social media, but I never monetized the YouTube or the video until two years ago, two and a half years ago.

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And then I turned monetization on because I didn't want guys who were running ads to be in front of my content. selling their Ferrari courses or whatever it was. So for me, I just wanted to add value and serve and just give for free. So I invested for five years, a videographer, an editor, to do it without monetizing it at all.

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And it was probably one of the best decisions I did because now we have over a thousand videos on YouTube that are constantly searchable and shareable and adding value to people.

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My first year going all in, promoting every single week on every channel of marketing efforts that I had, I got only 750,000 downloads total in my first year. And that was every day promoting everywhere. Second year, I had a million and a half downloads. Third year, I think it was like three and a half or four million or something like that.

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And so I feel like it took like years really for me to get certain types of scale. Two years ago, I think we had a few hundred million downloads in one year, but it took many years for that to scale up. It takes time. And I think that's why I tell a lot of people like don't do a podcast unless you're committed to doing it without getting any downloads and any results for years.

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If you think you're going to make money and get millions of downloads right away, it's just not going to happen. So you got to do it because you really enjoy it. You really love it. You feel like you're called to share something in the world and in your unique perspective. Yeah, it was a struggle. But at the same time,

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there was traction in the sense that the community loved it and they were talking about it and they were raving about it. So there was a small community that was really growing. It just wasn't this mass scale for years.

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But now we get that in like a couple of days, you know, so.

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It's really discovering the unique gifts and talents that are within you. And in that discovery, pursuing your dreams and goals. In that pursuit, making an impact on the people around you. That's for me what it is. It's like, what's the unique talents and gifts we have? Figure those out over our journey. Try to help as many people as possible on the pursuit of our dreams and goals.

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It's to serve 100 million lives every single week to help them improve the quality of their life. And how I came about that was probably three years into the podcast, as I was building and growing it, I didn't know what it was for me. I was like, why am I doing this? What's the purpose? What's the reason? Why am I getting up every morning and working hard on this thing? And then I got clear on it.

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I was like, well, what do I want to accomplish? How do I want to serve people? And how many people do I want to serve? I would ask other people this question. I would say, what do you want? I want to change the world. I want to make billions of dollars and all these different things. And I was like, okay, changing the world. Everyone says I want to impact the world.

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And I was just like, all right, that's hard to quantify. And so for me, I was like, what is something that I could quantify? And then I would hear people say, I want to impact billions of people. And I'm like, okay, yes. And you're just getting started. So it just seems too far away. And so I said, I want to reach 100 million lives. And then we did that in one year.

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I think I had something inside of me calling me for something more in a moment of, or in many moments, many months of breakdown and sadness and kind of grieving, grieving the loss of my dream of playing football, grieving my father who was in the hospital for many months in a coma, and just kind of grieving loss in general, emotional, mental, physical loss. and having a lack of certainty.

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Yeah, it's really figuring out the talents that you have, the skill sets you have. It's figuring out what makes you unique and then how can I go profit from these talents? How can I go monetize these talents? What are the tools and the things available for me to do these things?

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When we figure out those two areas, I feel like there's a sweet spot there in between that, that we could take action on. And for me, again, it was, I didn't think I had a lot of talent. I didn't think I had a lot of skill, but I was curious. And I go, how can I use this talent of curiosity? Is this a talent? I didn't think it was, but I was like, there's a hidden talent of curiosity there.

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So how can I use this to make money and to make an impact? Okay. I don't have to be the voice. I can interview people. I didn't know how to use video or how to use audio at the time, but I was like, these are tools available out there. How can I use these tools and ask questions? Can I make money around this? I have no idea.

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But the more I did it, the more I showed up and was of service to people, I was able to monetize these things. And so for me, I didn't know the path, but I started to ask myself, what are my talents? What are the things I'm really good at? What are some mechanisms out there that I could start tapping into?

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And then how can I just take action consistently around this so that I can figure out how to make a living doing the things I enjoy doing?

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Well, on page 204, I have a graph. I have a chart. And I don't know if we got you a book or not, but there's a graph here for people. Sorry, 201. And I show the difference between a greatness mindset and a powerless mindset. So a lot of people live in a powerless state.

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And it doesn't mean they're in a powerless state all the time, but they might have one or two areas that make them feel more powerless than powerful. And so I'll just share these six categories of a powerless mindset versus a greatness mindset and use this as an assessment. So if you're listening or watching, just ask yourself, okay, am I doing any of these things?

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If so, you may feel like you are powerless in your day-to-day or your decision-making, or you feel like there's a weight on your shoulders. It's probably because of one of these six things are happening. So a powerless mindset occurs when you lack a meaningful mission. So when I was living on my sister's couch,

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for a year and a half and I was in a cast and had a surgery and didn't know what I was gonna do in my life, I lacked a meaningful mission and I felt powerless. I was like, who am I? What's the point? What am I doing here? I felt very powerless. People think they need to get it all figured out for the rest of their life and it's really season by season. What is the mission of this season?

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I didn't have certainty. I didn't have clarity about my future. I didn't know what the point of all this was. And so it was just very confusing time. And I didn't have any resources. I didn't have any money. I was in debt from my college loans. This was in 2008, 2009, when the economy in the US was essentially tanking. The housing crisis was tanking and everything.

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This season can be for the next six months, the next six years, the next whatever. We don't have to define, I need to know what I'm going to do for the rest of my life. It's what is this season's calling? And getting clear on the meaningful mission will make you step into a greatness mindset versus a powerless mindset. So when you lack a meaningful mission, you're going to feel powerless.

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You're not going to feel as courageous, as strong, You're not going to have belief in yourself when you're in this state. The second thing is you're controlled by fear. A lot of people are consumed by fear, and there's three types of fear that cause us to doubt ourselves. The first one being the fear of failure. The second one being the fear of success.

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Believe it or not, almost 50% of people are just as afraid of their own success as they are their own failure. And the third main fear that causes us to doubt ourselves is the fear of judgment, people's opinions. And this causes us to be crippled by making decisions, by acting courageously on our dreams. I don't know, Hala, if you've ever asked someone, what is your goal and what's your dream?

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And they say, I want to launch my own podcast. I want to write a book. I want to start a business. I want to get into a relationship, whatever it is. And you ask them, how long have you been thinking about this? And people say, five years, seven years, 20 years. I've been wanting to write that book. And one of those three fears holds them back.

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The fear of failure, the fear of success, and the fear of judgment. And so these are factors that cause people to hesitate, to not take that step forward. And so we got to understand what's the root of one of these three fears that we all have faced at different times. There is a root underneath those fears. And typically the root is, I am not enough.

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And when we believe I am not enough, we are going to allow one of these three fears to run our lives as opposed to us running through them and beyond them. So when we are controlled by fear, we are powerless. We are in a powerless state. We're saying this has power over me, so I'm not taking action. The third thing is crippled by self-doubt. Fear and self-doubt play hand in hand.

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When we are controlled by fear, we usually have an insecurity. I'm not going to be enough, so my self-doubt is holding me back. I am therefore powerless to these opinions, these beliefs. The fourth thing I don't think a lot of people talk about this in the different habit, mindset, success books of the world. The fourth thing is that they conceal past pains.

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So for 25 years, I held on to a pain and secrets that no one knew about me. I was sexually abused when I was a kid and no one knew it. And I was terrified. I concealed this past pain. It was like a poison running through my psyche, my body, my heart, my energy, everything.

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because I was ashamed and I thought if people knew this about me, no one would accept me or love me and I would die if they actually knew this about me. That was the story running through my mind constantly and I was afraid of the opinions and judgments of others. That was my biggest fear. I was not afraid of failure or success.

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And I didn't have my father, who was kind of my backup bank account. If I needed money, he would give me like 50 bucks here and there. It was like a security blanket almost. Like, okay, go chase your dream. When you're done, you can come and I'll hire you for my company type of thing. So I didn't have that anymore. So I had to learn how to be resourceful.

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But people's opinions crippled me because I had this shame and guilt inside of my soul. And when we conceal past pains, I'm not saying you need to say everything publicly to the world, but when you're holding on to something that is a poison inside of you, it will make you feel powerless. You will not be stepping into the greatness mindset with this inside of you. So we've got to learn to heal.

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Most of my book is about healing. It's a Trojan horse for processing, healing, and getting out the poison inside of us so that we can thrive at the highest levels. Most of these books don't talk about revealing past pain, but from all the research and the 10 years of doing this, This is the path. It is the path to achieving greatness is by setting yourself free emotionally and psychologically.

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The fifth thing is being defined by the opinions of others. This is something I mentioned already a couple of times. When we are defined by people, they have control over us. They control our decisions and our actions because we're so concerned about their opinions. So therefore, you are powerless if someone else is controlling you. And the sixth thing is you drift towards complacency.

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I'm not saying you need to be striving to be making more and doing more all the time, but I just feel like when we are drifting, when we are wanderers, and we aren't improving or growing in some area of our life, we feel powerless.

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These six areas of your life, I would ask everyone to do an assessment, a self-assessment, and say, is there any one of these things that's happening for me right now or maybe causing me to doubt myself more? If so, there's a way to break through them. You have the awareness now. Then we've got to make a decision and a commitment to break through to get into the greatness mindset.

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And the greatness mindset is the sixth opposite. It's driven by a meaningful mission. You heard mine. Impact 100 million lives every single week. I'm driven by that, and it's meaningful for me. It gives me a direction. It gives me a place to go towards that I can measure that excites me. Doesn't mean it's not challenging at times.

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It doesn't mean I don't go through pain and hardships and certain agony at moments, but at least I know where I'm heading. Second thing is you turn the fears into confidence. And fears are going to come at different stages and seasons. As we unlock new potential, there's going to be a new fear and uncertainty. So we have to keep driving into the fear, turning into confidence.

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You overcome self-doubt is number three, as opposed to letting it cripple you. Number four, healing past pains. not concealing them. When we heal, we become greater than our past powerless self. The fifth thing is creating a healthy identity. Most of us, Hala, say a lot of negative things to ourselves unconsciously and outwardly. When someone compliments us, at times we diminish it.

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We say, no, it's not me. We put ourselves down and our body remembers and our body listens to the words and the thoughts that we have. So we must shift that into a healthy identity. And the sixth thing is taking action with a game plan. I'm not saying you're going to accomplish all your dreams and goals if you do these things, but you're going to feel a lot greater when you do.

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And you're going to have a deeper sense of peace, harmony, and alignment inside of your soul when you step into these things as opposed to being in the powerless mindset.

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I had to learn how to kind of fend for my own, really, and how to tap into a network of people that I didn't know, but I felt like I needed to know. So that's when I started reaching out to mentors, coaches, guides. I started consuming as much as I could in terms of resources and books, going to conferences, and just trying to meet people, learn from people, and take action.

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I never was afraid of failure because in sports, I was taught that failure is the pathway to success. So for me, I knew that missing a shot didn't make me a failure. It just mean I needed to practice better technique. I need to learn better. I need to become bigger, faster, stronger. So it was all information. It was all feedback. Failure was always feedback.

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Information telling me what's not working yet and how to get better at the thing. So for me, it wasn't about failure because I understood through coaching and through sports that you have to fail in order to succeed. There's no way to not fail in order to succeed. So if you want success, this is the pathway. It's about reshaping what it means to you. A lot of people have a deeper meaning.

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If I lose or if I miss the shot or if I failed, then I am a failure. And I never identified with that as me being the failure. I was just like, oh, I wasn't prepared enough. Oh, I need to get faster. Oh, I need to get stronger. I need to have better technique. I need more reps. I didn't like the feeling of failure. failing or losing. I hated it, but it also drove me to get better.

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Success was not something that I was afraid of either, but most people are afraid of success. And I didn't understand this. When I started doing the research 10 years ago and asking people in large rooms, I'd say, how many people are afraid to fail? Most people would raise their hand. And I'd say, how many people in the room are afraid of success?

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And over 50% of the room would still raise their hand. And I was always like, what? Because you want to be successful, but you're afraid of it. So why would success come to you when you're afraid of it? You're resistant to it.

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you are scared of it, and yet you want it, you sound like a clingy girlfriend who wants to be in a relationship but is anxious and scared to be open and emotional and vulnerable but is needing your attention all the time or whatever it might be. If you want to be successful, you cannot be afraid of it. And I didn't understand. It didn't make sense to me.

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But then it started to make sense the more I asked people questions over the last 10 years. And really, when people become more successful, unfortunately, there's usually a couple people in their family or their close friend circle that is not accepting. Some people are like, you're amazing. Keep going. High five. You got this. But there are some people close to us

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that start to pull away, that think, huh, what are you doing? Are you better than us? Come back here. Come be comfortable, safe. Don't keep learning and growing and expanding beyond your reach. That makes me feel uncomfortable. When you leave the tribe to go for success, Not always the tribe is supporting of that journey you're going on.

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And that is a big factor for a lot of people who are married or their parents don't want them to do that or whatever it might be. When you want to grow and go beyond something, it can be scary for others. And you want community and love. And if you're leaving to go after something, or if that's what it looks like, then you may not get that love and attention and affection anymore.

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So that was kind of that journey then.

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So it made sense to me. And over my journey, I lost a lot of friends. A lot of friends that I thought we were going to be friends forever just stopped returning my calls, just weren't as supportive or jealous of my success or whatever it might be. And it was sad and it hurt for a long time, these different stages.

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But I learned that's part of the process if you're going to grow and others aren't in alignment with your journey. It's important to find people in your friend circle who support your success so they can grow with you as well. Another fear that success has with a lot of people is the weight. There's an amazing documentary called The Weight of Gold, which is about Olympic gold medalists.

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who commit suicide, go through extreme depression, become addicted to drugs after they win the gold medal, and about all of the suffering that gold medalists have afterwards. They were happier before they won the gold medal. And it documents the lives of all these people that have committed suicide within a year or two after winning gold.

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Going after the gold they had their entire life, they win it. And then they die, they commit suicide, become drug addicts, they suffer, and they lose it all. In the documentation, there's this immense pressure that if you are not prepared to handle the fame, everyone talking about you, the success,

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Being at the top of the mountain and now needing to maintain that level of success is an extreme pressure. And that's why you see a lot of people go bankrupt after they make a lot of money. That's why you see a lot of lottery winners who make a lot of money go through death or go bankrupt as well within a couple of years. And you see people that exit big companies sometimes losing it all quickly.

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Because if you're not emotionally and mentally prepared for the success, you will sabotage it. That's why healing past pain is so important. Because you can win and succeed and make money, but if you have pain in your chest, guilt, shame, insecurity, all these things, that doesn't go away until you heal it.

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And if you heal it on the journey, you're going to be able to sustain the success in a different way and maintain it. I wasn't afraid of those things because I wanted to be successful. I wanted the weight. I wanted the pressure. It was challenging at times, but I wanted it. For me, it was the fear of judgment. That was the thing that crippled me.

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So when I was successful or growing or whatever, and I would get nasty comments online about stuff, it was almost as if I had to defend my life with these comments and had to reply to everyone. And I was so worried about what they would think about me. That's the thing that got me in trouble or crippled me until I learned to heal past pains, until I learned to realize I am enough. It's okay.

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People are going to have opinions about me. I can't please everyone. I'm not going to conform to everyone's opinion. That was part of the process for me.

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Yeah, I started on LinkedIn end of 2007, actually. I think there was only about 12 million people on the platform at the time. I wrote a book about LinkedIn in 2009. There was one other book about it, but I think there's probably hundreds of books about it now. But I was one of the first that wrote a book about LinkedIn.

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It can be an amazing driver. And it's what I did my whole life. It's because I was picked last on sports teams. And so I said, I'll never be picked last again. I'm always going to be the most valuable person on every sports team. And it drove me to train six hours a day as a kid and not play video games, but go outside and play sports all night until I had to come home.

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Because I was like, I'm never going to experience this pain again. And I'm going to prove everyone wrong. And I did it. I proved people wrong, and I felt empty, unfulfilled, and I felt like exhausted, drained, emotionally frustrated, resentful, and all these anger emotions inside of me that continue to drive me. Until 10 years ago, I realized this is not sustainable.

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It got me external results, but left me feeling completely emotionally bankrupt. And it can only last so long until things fall apart, your relationships, your business, something, which everything fell apart for me 10 years ago. That's one of the reasons why I got into this show, starting this, because I was like, I need to learn how to heal. I need to learn how to not be driven by my ego.

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It's one of the reasons why I called it the School of Greatness. I didn't call it the Lewis Howe Show. I was like, my ego needs to die. I'm so worried about other people's opinions and proving people wrong. And that's what's causing me pain. Sure, that chip got me results and got me credibility and got me on stages and helped me make money. But why am I emotionally exhausted? The ego must die.

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And 10 years ago, I started to kill my ego and not make it about me. And I started to put the light on everyone else, shine the light on everyone, make it less about me, be of service, not about me being successful. And it started to shift. And by no means did I do it perfectly, and I still made mistakes and stumbled along the way. But that intention of letting go of my ego allowed me to thrive.

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Now, It's a dance because in a world of personal branding and being a host and being an author and writing books and being on the cover of magazines and stuff like this, you've got to learn to build a brand but not believe that you're the best thing in the world and how to continue to be of service. And that's why I try to focus constantly to remind myself this is not about me and my success.

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And I became obsessed with it early on because a mentor said, why don't you check it out? Maybe you can find a job there. And I was just trying to network on there originally. LinkedIn was not as robust as it is now. And so after about five years, I kind of gave up on LinkedIn because it was so powerful in the beginning for me.

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This is about us and the service we have on the world. And when I do that, I feel a lot more harmony and peace than when I say it's all about me. So there's a dance because in marketing, you've got to promote things. You've got to promote yourself. You've got to promote your name. You've got to promote your brand. But I think internally, you've got to remind yourself this is about service.

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But then they weren't innovating like other social media platforms were. And they did not connect with creators, influencers. They didn't have any support. for someone like me back then. So I really felt like they neglected the community, in my opinion. And then I guess about five, six years ago, they started to innovate their platform and add more tools and resources for creators.

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Yeah, just last night I was doing a session with my therapist and the conversation was, what do I want my 50 and 60 year old self, 90 and 100 year old self to say to me right now about the decisions I've been making on a daily basis? Because I've been very focused on my health. and almost making it a full-time job.

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Not in the sense of I'm spending 10 hours a day on my health, but I'm thinking and intending it to be optimized in a level that I've never fully done in the last 10 years.

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I slowly got back on because I kind of got burnt out from LinkedIn because it was so challenging to work with the platform. And the team at LinkedIn wasn't responsive as they are now. It was a launching pad in the sense of building powerful connections early on for me. And I met some incredible people that I networked with on the platform that I'm still friends with today back in 2007.

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Now, I've also been a professional athlete, and I've trained hard and all these things, but just being very intentional about nutrition, sleep, recovery, working out, and tracking and measuring it in a different way than I have before. And I was having a conversation with my, I'm 40 now, and I was having a conversation with myself as my 50-year-old.

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So I don't know if you can go stay with me for a moment, but I was in the future having a conversation with my current self at 50 today. Then I went in the future at 60 and had a conversation with myself today. Then I went to 90 and 100. And I told myself,

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And I imagine the feeling that I had as a 50, 60, 90, and 100, and the appreciation I was telling myself today for how I was taking care of my health. Because at 50, at 60, I'm still able to work out like a 30-year-old. and I'm flexible, and I'm strong, and I'm running marathons, and I'm lifting heavy weights, and I've got muscle, and I'm flexible, and all these things.

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I've got all the capacities as a 30-year-old at 50 and 60. At 90 and 100, I was saying, thank you for taking care of me at 90 and 100 today at 40 by making these decisions. Because look at us. There's sadness all around us, unfortunately, because your friends are dying. Your friends are getting hip replacements.

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But you took care of us when it was uncomfortable, when it was challenging, when it was hard, when it wasn't easy. You said you were thinking about me and us at 90 and 100. So I was having these conversations with myself last night.

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doing these exercises, which allows me to be intentional about my decisions today, to not be so strict and hard on myself, but to be really intentional and deliberate about how I want to feel in the future. And I was having this multi-time dimensional conversation with self from the future and now, all last night.

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And I just think that's an important strategy or exercise that we should be thinking about our futures and making decisions today based on what will make our future self proud.

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I feel like I keep doing lots of different exercises, events, workshops, therapies. I'm willing to try lots of stuff. And what I originally did was 10 years ago, I just started opening up about it. I started talking about these things. I think the first step is finding a safe environment and space to be able to share. I'm not saying you need to post about things on social media.

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I don't think that's wise until you feel like, oh, I feel like I really want to do this for whatever reason. But finding spaces and people that you trust to talk to about your shames. And that's the first step is allowing it to get out of you, allowing the poison to get out of you. And then there's lots of different somatic things

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physical healing therapies and things like that and emotional therapies and retreats and workshops, and they're all great, I think. Anything you do, if you go all in on it, I think you'll get some results. If you've seen other people do it that recommend it and they've gotten results, as long as you go all in on the therapeutic experience, I think it will be serving to you.

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I've never personally done drugs or psychedelics. I've never been drunk or high in my life. So I don't prescribe to something that I haven't done, but I have friends that swear by psychedelics. I just, I'm more afraid of the side effects the brain chemistry has based on the people I've interviewed who are experts in the brain that I get worried about that stuff for long-term.

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There's a friend of mine who is a mega billionaire now that I met in 2007 by just sending him a direct message on LinkedIn and us building a friendship over the years and going to events together and watching each other grow. And I just saw him a couple months ago. And it's like all because of LinkedIn, the power of connection. So it's been an amazing platform in general.

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But I think if you have tried everything and you feel like you're not getting any results, then that might be a last resort to allow your mind to relax and open up. But I think there's a lot of things you could do and it's worth exploring different things.

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Yeah, there's really two parts to it. It's one imagining and visualizing what you would like to experience on a perfect day. If you could close your eyes and think about it at some point in your life, what would this look like? What would this feel like? A day in a life that you feel like, wow, when you shut your eyes to go to bed, you said that was a perfect day.

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From every moment to moment, from the moment you wake up, where are you waking up? What do you see first thing when you wake up? What area of the world are you living when you wake up? Is there someone next to you? If so, what does that feel like? So putting yourself in an emotional state of all five senses, imagining that perfect day scenario.

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And obviously, if you did the same thing every day, it wouldn't be perfect anymore. But just imagine what that experience, that feeling would be like. Mm-hmm. And then writing it down, writing it down what that dream is like, that experiential feeling is like, writing it down in detail and description is part one. Part two is flipping the page over and scheduling it.

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You know, something I learned early on when I was 15, I've joined the football team for the first time. Day one in my locker was a piece of paper hanging up on my locker and every kid's locker that was the itinerary for practice. And I'm thinking, I'm just going to go out there and kind of run around and just got drills. But every five minutes was scheduled.

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from putting on our pads to water breaks to coaches giving us talking and giving us speeches to stretch breaks to offense, defense, special teams to individual practice time. Every minute was detailed. It made sense because it allowed us to prepare and put attention on all the things to become great as a team and have the perfect game.

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to excel in the perfect way when game time happened at the end of the weeks. And so I think when we get intentional about our schedule and our time, and we marry it with the vision, the experience of the senses, we can take action on the perfect day almost every day. And it's just figuring out how to work into that, how to work into that experience and that feeling.

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And there's, again, different seasons and stages of my life that didn't feel perfect. I was a truck driver for three months, driving eight hours a day. I did a lot of different odd end jobs at different times. It's figuring out, okay, how can I build into it? How can I use my gifts and my talents at this time to enjoy this, to experience something beautiful?

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And then if this is not for me right now, what can I step into next? What's the next season to get closer to that perfect day? That's what it's about.

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Focus on gratitude. I just think that gratitude is a universal energetic law that allows you to open the doorway for abundance. When we are grateful and we experience gratitude continuously, our energy shifts around us. Our attitude, our perspective, our way of being shows up differently. And people... are attracted to others who are positive, who are kind, who are generous, and who are grateful.

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I wish I would have used it when I had my podcast launch because I actually didn't use LinkedIn that much when I launched the show.

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We aren't attracted to people who are ungrateful and frustrated and negative. That's not an attractive quality. when you express gratitude from the inside out, people gravitate towards you.

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And you will create more opportunities, whether it's in your career, you'll advance farther, or if you're starting a business, it will be more effortless feeling, and you'll attract more abundance in the journey.

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It just goes back to healing. I know a lot of wealthy people who are miserable internally or who are sick or who are physically overweight and struggling because they have yet to heal. And you could build the business and make all the money and know all the celebrities and get in all the press and have the biggest following. But if you are

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sick emotionally or unwell and you have yet to heal the things that cause you the most pain, then you're really living in a powerless state. And having it all but feeling powerless internally is one of the greatest prisons we can be in psychologically because you don't know what else to do.

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You've done everything to become more successful and make more money and accomplish, but you still don't feel enough. And for me, that's a prison sentence psychologically. And until we heal, we will never feel enough.

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Lewis Howes, anywhere on social media and the School of Greatness podcast.

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Thanks, Hala.

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Yeah. In 2012, I was going through a transition in my business at the time. I had an online marketing company. I was kind of getting burnt out by what I was doing. And I just didn't feel like it was meaningful to me anymore. It was still like powerful. It was making money, but it wasn't like a deeper meaning, sense of purpose.

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And what I was doing, though, is I was using LinkedIn before then to connect with coaches and mentors and leaders. And I would meet with a lot of them in person. And I was getting so much wisdom and knowledge from them when I would ask them questions. I was just like, I should probably record these. And I've heard of this thing called podcasting. No one really knows what it is at the time, 2012.

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But I was like, I feel like it might be big one day. I said, all right, I called two friends that had a podcast. There was probably only 50 people at the time that had podcasts. I called two of them. They told me they loved it. They loved the experience. They loved the connection with the community.

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They felt like it was the most engaged type of content they were able to create with people in the community. So I said, I think I could do this. I have no clue what I'm doing. I've never done this before. I didn't go to school for this, but I feel like I can figure it out. Let me try it for one year. I'll do it once a week for a year as an experiment. And if it doesn't work out, then I'll stop.

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But I fell in love right away. And now 10 years later, 1400 plus episodes later, almost a billion downloads later, it's still going.

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Yeah, it was almost eight years ago after maybe it was two or three years into the podcast. I started to see probably the third year in, I was like, oh, okay, this is a thing. And there are lots of other people starting to jump in. I would say I was like the second wave of people that jumped into podcasting.

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If Joe Rogan was like two years before me, and then there was just like some underground tech podcasts, that was essentially it. There were no bigger shows. There were some big shows at that time in the small ecosystem, but it wasn't mainstream. Then there was guys like me and Pat Flynn and Rich Roll kind of all came in around the same time, maybe within a six month window in 2012, 2013.

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And so we were kind of like the second wave of people jumping in and trying to figure it out. And then probably 2015, I think that was probably around the time when Serial came out and it became more mainstream podcasting. And then there was, that's kind of the third wave. And now it just keeps, the waves keep coming.

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I remember around that time, I was just like, I don't know, I feel like this is just going to keep getting bigger. And it's hard to innovate audio, at least it was at the time. And I still think it is kind of hard to innovate audio at this time. It's not viral. It's not really shareable that well. It's You can only do so much with the editing. There's only so many things you can do.

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So I was like, I feel like I need to film these and just put them up on YouTube and use it as a promotional tool to promote the audio. And so for five years, that's what I did. I put them on YouTube. I would cut up clips, put it on social media, but I never monetized the YouTube or the video until two years ago, two and a half years ago.

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And then I turned monetization on because I didn't want guys who were running ads to be in front of my content. selling their Ferrari courses or whatever it was. So for me, I just wanted to add value and serve and just give for free. So I invested for five years, a videographer, an editor, to do it without monetizing it at all.

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And it was probably one of the best decisions I did because now we have over a thousand videos on YouTube that are constantly searchable and shareable and adding value to people.

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My first year going all in, promoting every single week on every channel of marketing efforts that I had, I got only 750,000 downloads total in my first year. And that was every day promoting everywhere. Second year, I had a million and a half downloads. Third year, I think it was like three and a half or four million or something like that.

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And so I feel like it took like years, really, for me to get certain types of scale. Two years ago, I think we had a few hundred million downloads in one year. But it took many years for that to scale up. It takes time. And I think that's why I tell a lot of people, like, don't do a podcast unless you're committed to doing it without getting any downloads and any results for years.

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If you think you're going to make money and get millions of downloads right away, it's just not going to happen. So you got to do it because you really enjoy it. You really love it. You feel like you're called to share something in the world and in your unique perspective. Yeah, it was a struggle. But at the same time,

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there was traction in the sense that the community loved it and they were talking about it and they were raving about it. So there was a small community that was really growing. It just wasn't this mass scale for years.

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But now we get that in like a couple of days, you know, so.

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Yeah, exactly.

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It's really discovering the unique gifts and talents that are within you. And in that discovery, pursuing your dreams and goals. In that pursuit, making an impact on the people around you. That's for me what it is. It's like, what's the unique talents and gifts we have? Figure those out over our journey. Try to help as many people as possible on the pursuit of our dreams and goals.

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It's to serve 100 million lives every single week to help them improve the quality of their life. And how I came about that was probably three years into the podcast, as I was building and growing it, I didn't know what it was for me. I was like, why am I doing this? What's the purpose? What's the reason? Why am I getting up every morning and working hard on this thing? And then I got clear on it.

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I was like, well, what do I want to accomplish? How do I want to serve people? And how many people do I want to serve? I would ask other people this question. I would say, what do you want? I want to change the world. I want to make billions of dollars and all these different things. And I was like, okay, changing the world. Everyone says I want to impact the world.

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And I was just like, all right, that's hard to quantify. And so for me, I was like, what is something that I could quantify? And then I would hear people say, I want to impact billions of people. And I'm like, okay, yes. And you're just getting started. So it just seems too far away. And so I said, I want to reach 100 million lives. And then we did that in one year.

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And I said, okay, I want to do it every week. I want to reach 100 million lives a week. And so I was like, all right, that's, That seems like a big stretch, but it's a quantifiable number, and it will force me to get creative, get resourceful. It'll force me to overcome my fears and insecurities that hold me back.

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It'll force me to develop new skills and talents, to think beyond where I'm currently at so that I could potentially achieve that goal one day. And so it just excited me. And it seemed far away. It gives me something to measure, and it gets me something to be excited about every day.

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Absolutely.

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When I focus on the mission, which is service, there can be different... mechanisms that can do it. If podcasting dies tomorrow, then I don't want to be, well, I'm only a podcaster now. I can't service the mission anymore with this mechanism because the mechanism is gone. And there's always a message that within the mechanism to serve the mission.

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And so the message will continue to evolve and expand, whether it's packaging content and storytelling in a book and giving tools and resources so people can consume it this way, whether it's audio, whether it's video, whether it's AI, it's always going to evolve and expand.

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But there's a mission, and then you've got to figure out what are the mechanisms that will serve you in accomplishing the mission's goal, which is 100 million lives weekly. And then there's a message. What is the message that you're going to use and share? Am I sharing the message? Is it audio? Is it video message? Is it a written message? Is it other people's messages?

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How can I distribute that message through the mechanisms to serve the mission? And so I'm just trying to think of what are the things that excite me that I'm good at, that I'm talented at, that I enjoy doing. Those mechanisms, sharing the message through those mechanisms to get to the mission faster. That's what I think about. I haven't mastered it.

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I don't feel like I'm close to figuring it out, but we have something we can measure every single week to support us in getting there faster.