The School of Greatness
Lucy Hale Opens Up: Getting Sober, Mental Health & Manifestation
Wed, 30 Apr 2025
Leave an Amazon Review for my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!Despite her massive success on Pretty Little Liars and millions of adoring fans, Lucy Hale spent years battling her mental health and addiction while in the spotlight. After hitting rock bottom three years ago, Lucy embarked on a sobriety journey that reconnected her with the spiritual awareness she'd lost along the way. With candid honesty, she describes how fame intensified her mental health struggles and recounts a pivotal spiritual awakening in Austin, Texas that changed everything. Lucy's mindset transformation from shame-filled people-pleaser to authentic truth-seeker offers profound insights about manifestation, worthiness, alignment, and the courage to disappoint others before disappointing yourself.Lucy on InstagramIn this episode you will learn:How external success and validation can mask deep mental health struggles with unworthiness and shameWhy people-pleasing is actually selfish, and how it blocks authentic connection and growthThe connection between disordered eating, addiction, and the desperate search for controlHow Lucy maintains her sobriety through intentional morning routines and protecting her energyThe transformative power of trusting the timing of your life rather than trying to control everythingFor more information go to https://www.lewishowes.com/1765For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960More SOG episodes we think you’ll love:Goldie Hawn – greatness.lnk.to/1630SCGabby Bernstein – greatness.lnk.to/1714SCYara Shahidi – greatness.lnk.to/1699SC Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
True alignment happens when we stop running from our darkness and start embracing all the parts of ourselves. Welcome back, my friend, to another episode of the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest today.
We've got Lucy Hale, who is going to really open up and share in a big way about her personal experience of hitting rock bottom a few years ago and how it led to a spiritual awakening that transformed her relationship with herself and became a turning point towards sobriety and her healing journey. And I want to remind you that we are all on our own journey.
If you might be struggling, you might be going through adversity, you might be uncertain about the future, whether it be a relationship or your career path or some business you're working on. But I want to give you this daily affirmation. And that is, when my mind drifts to fear or lack, Please remind me that abundance is always available to me.
Remind me that I am supported, provided for, and surrounded by endless possibilities waiting to unfold. Help me to see the blessings already in my life and to welcome even more with an open heart. Let today be a reflection of trust, gratitude, and the abundant life I am meant to live. Again, you are meant to live it.
But sometimes the darkness, the challenges, the adversities make us feel like we're drowning in stress, drowning in chaos, drowning in drama. And sometimes we have to break apart from the chaos, from the drama, from the stress, Find some stillness. Literally, get still. Turn off devices. Turn off the TV. Turn off the noise. And just be still. Sit outside. Breathe. Be still.
and allow alignment to come into alignment. Sometimes when we're in chaos or overwhelm or stress, we don't have the moment or just a moment to reflect to get back into alignment because we don't allow alignment inside of us because we're constantly reactive. So get to a place of calm, get to a place of understanding.
And just be present in this moment because you deserve to feel peace and abundance. It is your birthright, but it's not going to be handed to you if you're not willing to do the work to create that inner alignment on your journey. And trust me, I have gone through so many ups and downs in my life where I felt like, is there ever going to be any peace? Is there ever going to be any freedom?
Is there ever going to be any abundance when I'm feeling fear, when I'm feeling scarce, when I'm feeling overwhelmed? And I'm telling you, it is possible that you've got to be willing to go within you. And there is some big moments in today's episode. Lucy talks about why external success and validation couldn't fix her feelings of unworthiness and shame. And she's a massive superstar.
She's got millions of followers. And the external success didn't validate her feelings that she really needed to feel. And it wasn't until she went through her own journey, which she's about to talk about in this interview and episode, where she started to learn how to create that peace and come back to herself. And you deserve to come back to you.
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Chapter 2: How did Lucy Hale hit rock bottom?
I mean, I had in the past, but this time it wasn't. I just remember I woke up and it was almost just like I knew that if I did not change my life from that moment forward, I was going to lose everything.
Really?
And maybe even my life. Like it was that it was that clear to me and it was a sensation I felt and I felt the presence of you know, a higher power that loved me a lot and was like, listen, listen, girl, you know, it's not too late because I felt like it was too late because I had tried for years and years and years.
What did you try? Was it like therapy and ayahuasca? Like I tried spiritual retreats and meditation, kind of all these things.
So I didn't start all the spiritual stuff until that's the place I'm in now.
Okay.
But I mean like rehab, inpatient, outpatient, every type of medication. You know, I did try religion. I tried everything. Everything. And nothing really... nothing stuck for me. And I really think that's because I believe patterns repeat in your life until all the lessons are learned. The same people will keep showing up. You'll keep making the same habits.
Everything will continue on until you've like really wrung out that rag of all the lessons. And my God, for some reason, my soul's like, no, again, again, again. And I really did
learn a lot about myself and and you know through those 15 years of what I was running away from I mean I didn't even realize until I actually got sober and like had the clarity and clear mind for a year like how much sadness and rage and anger I was holding on to that was so old wow like it felt ancient and
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Chapter 3: What is the connection between fame and mental health?
No, I want to.
He came and spoke at Summit of Greatness last year here in LA. If I'd have known you, I'd have had you come out, but next time.
Next time, yeah.
But it sounds like You said earlier that when you were a kid, you were just dreaming and manifesting coming to LA and having this career and getting these opportunities. And it sounded like you had a pure channel to God to be able to manifest your dreams and really go for it.
I think so, and of course, as a kid, I didn't have the vocabulary of channel or manifesting, but I thought I was just a really elaborate daydreamer.
That's beautiful.
But to the point, because I spent a lot of time alone as a kid, I didn't have many friends. I just I genuinely loved being alone because then I could be in my head and I could create these environments that made me really, really happy. And so I did a lot of music growing up. So music was always my emotional valve. And just that really got me through some stuff as a kid.
But yeah, I mean, I have I have memories of. being in my house or backyard or whatever on my trampoline and just knowing I was moving out of the city I was in. I knew I was destined to do something big. I knew it. And even at this point, I didn't even know what an actor was. I was just like, And this isn't, you know, talking bad about where I come from or my family.
I was just like, I feel kind of like a square and a, you know, what's the saying? Like, yes. I was like, I love my family and, but something's not right here. I always just felt like the black sheep of the family, just in how I, viewed people, the way I dressed, like my interests, everything. Um, but yeah, now I look back and I was like, dang, I knew how to manifest as a little kid.
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Chapter 4: How can one maintain sobriety and inner peace?
Once I do that.
Yeah.
Not excuse people's behaviors or whatever or actions, but no such a meaning That's what I was gonna say like with your experience.
Of course, you didn't deserve that Of course people don't deserve for those things to happen to you. Absolutely not condoning that But it's like you I'm sure you've had to say okay. This is what happened. I didn't deserve it.
I
And you've obviously taken such a beautiful path with it.
Yeah. Well, I can either stay in victimhood and let that anger fuel me, which I did for a long time. And it created results out of anger and out of frustration and resentment and feeling abused and taken advantage of. So I was driven to prove people wrong. Wow. And it got results. Anger is probably the second most powerful fuel in the world. It will get you what you want. So true.
But you won't feel the way you want to feel once you get the results. You're not going to feel it. Love.
you're not going to feel peace you're not going to feel alignment because you did everything out of anger revenge proving yeah you know i'm going to show them i'm going to do something as opposed to i'm going to show up for the greatest version of me and live an empowered life to serve and inspire people around me yeah and really step into the version of me that i'm most
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Chapter 5: What is the significance of inner child healing?
Right.
But when you're not transparent and you're hiding even little lies here and there,
Yeah, it adds up.
It adds up. And then you're living like two different lives. Yeah. You know the truth inside of you, but you know you're not sharing that fully with the person in front of you.
Right. And I think, you know, this ties back to what little Lucy needed. Like I'm desiring emotional safety.
Yes.
And for someone to look at me, look at... all parts of me, everything I've done, the woman I'm becoming, the woman I am today and say, I freaking love this woman. Like, I accept all parts of you and just feeling really safe. And I think that that for me, like I'm not going to go into my astrological chart, but like emotional safety is so important.
Yes.
And to feel seen in that way is like.
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