The School of Greatness
Has The Medical System Betrayed Women? How To Take Back Control of Your Health
Fri, 7 Mar 2025
I'm going on tour! Come see The School of Greatness LIVE in person!Get my new book Make Money Easy here!The medical system has systematically failed women for decades, creating unique health challenges that impact everything from heart disease to mental wellness. In this eye-opening conversation, I bring together three brilliant female doctors who are revolutionizing women's health from different angles. Dr. Mary Claire Haver exposes how women were excluded from medical studies until 1993, sharing her personal menopause journey alongside scientific insights. Dr. Rhonda Patrick challenges conventional aging theories with her groundbreaking research suggesting aging might be a reprogrammable process controlled by our epigenetics. Meanwhile, Dr. Caroline Leaf transforms our understanding of mental health with her powerful neurocycle method that produced an 81% improvement in anxiety and depression symptoms. This episode delivers essential wisdom for anyone looking to understand women's unique health journeys and provides actionable strategies for optimizing physical and mental wellbeing at any age.In this episode you will learn:Why treatments for women are often based on studies of men, and how this leads to inappropriate care for conditions like high cholesterol and heart disease The surprising truth about hormone replacement therapy and why only 4-6% of menopausal women receive it despite its benefits How men can effectively support partners going through menopause by educating themselves and attending doctor appointments A revolutionary insight that aging may be a programmable process controlled by epigenetics rather than accumulated damageThe three supplements to prioritize if limited to only a fewThe powerful five-step "neurocycle" process that can reduce anxiety and depression symptoms by up to 81%Why labeling mental health challenges as "diseases" can be harmful and how to reframe your experienceHow to break the cycle of fight-or-flight responses during acute stress using mindful awareness techniques For more information go to https://www.lewishowes.com/1742For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960More SOG episodes we think you’ll love:Dr. Mary Claire Haver – greatness.lnk.to/1641SCDr. Rhonda Patrick – greatness.lnk.to/1707SCDr. Caroline Leaf – greatness.lnk.to/1079SC Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX
Chapter 1: Why has the medical system failed women historically?
I would have to agree with you. The medical system, I don't think the individual doctor goes out in the world and thinks, I'm going to fail a woman. I think the way we've built the system was for the basic white guy. at least in the US. And so all of the studies, women were not even required legally to be in studies until 1993 from the NIH. So we have an entire generation.
Now that happened because thalidomide was being used in pregnant women
For nausea and ended up causing birth defects and that freaked everyone out understandably But they removed all women from studies after that just in case they might get pregnant then when you talk to researchers It's much more expensive and harder to study women because of their cycles or because of peri or postmenopause and men are just predictable so they just study mostly men and just take those things and infer them to women when we don't really understand the gender differences and the sex differences and
and how cardiovascular medications affect. So greatest example, statins, right? We use statins left and right to treat high cholesterol. Most women will have significant elevations of cholesterol through menopause. So here she goes through the change, boom, her cholesterol goes up, goes to her PCP, you need a statin.
Statins have never been shown in women to decrease the risk of a heart attack or decrease death from cardiovascular disease.
So why do we do it?
Because it worked in men and we- Just do it. So there is no evidence to support that. It will lower cholesterol, will not decrease the risk of a heart attack. Because we develop disease differently and for different reasons. And it's, you know, this is published by the American Heart Association in Circulation Magazine. I didn't make this up. And so, yet... There's no studies right now.
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Chapter 2: What challenges do women face with menopause and hormone therapy?
So now it's like us fighting, getting NIH grants, getting Congress on board. What the menopause is doing is advocacy, is fighting on a legislative level to force these things to happen, force these American College of OB-GYN, American Board of OB-GYN. And why should all of women's health fall in the lap of the poor, busy OB-GYN who's trying to deliver babies and prevent cervical cancer, right?
I did that job. It's a hard job. This should be required in medical school. I got one hour of menopause in medical school. Every clinician who touches a woman should have required menopause training, not just hot flashes, night sweats, and what HRT may or may not do for you, but how our sex differs in disease and how we need to treat women differently.
I mean, if you read Eleanor Cleghorn's The Unwell Woman and you look at The Invisible Woman just came out, Invisible Women, just looking at how in science women are just kind of ignored because we're harder. Harder to study. Yeah. And so we're not little men. We're more than just a man running, a short man running around with a breast and a uterus, you know, breast and uterus.
So we're actually, the way we present with disease, the way we're treated with disease is vastly different.
Yeah.
So what started out with like hot flashes and weight gain is actually a much bigger, bigger picture.
And one of the biggest, I guess, risk factors for disease with menopause?
Are there higher risk factors for diseases like breast cancer or other types of- So menopause, you see the cardiovascular disease risk starts rapidly accelerating. Yeah. So that's because our insulin resistance goes up. and our cholesterol goes up. So the risk factors for heart disease go up once you go through menopause.
So you take two 50-year-old women, one is premenopausal, one is post, and she has like a 50% increased risk of cardiovascular disease once she's postmenopausal. Yeah, so estrogen is incredibly protective for the lining of those vessels in the heart where those plaques start building up.
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Chapter 3: How can men support women going through menopause?
But having the period still.
Yeah, but still having a period. It's pretty rare, but it'll happen. But 95% of women will be through by the age of 55. So then we have our stragglers. So we don't know what can push out the life of the ovary other than good health and nutrition. We know things that will cut years off the life of the ovary.
So chemotherapy, anything that'll like disrupt the ovary, you know, chemotherapy, radiation in the abdomen. Yes. Surgery. So hysterectomy, which a lot of women have. You lose four and you leave your ovaries behind, you're going to lose four years off the life of the ovary. Okay.
In the book, we talked about a study that was done specifically looking at women who had childhood sexual abuse, whose children were then sexually abused. And for whatever reason, they looked at their age of menopause and it was nine years. Nine.
Nine. Wow.
Earlier than the average.
Nine years earlier.
Yeah. So we know that stress, that that kind of stress will take off the shelf life if you're, you know, because you're inflamed and autoimmune, you know. We know that smokers, you go through earlier. African-American women tend to go through about a year, year and a half earlier. You know, genetics plays a huge part. Asian women tend to go through a little bit later. um, than, than Caucasian.
Then, um, we have, um, if you have a bilateral tubal ligation, so tubes tied from, you know, you lose a year and a half. Yeah. So anything that disrupts blood flow or the health of the abdominal cavity, ovaries, endometriosis, you go through sooner, you know, cause of all the inflammation in the abdomen. So there's lots of things that can lower the age of menopause, how many kids you have.
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Chapter 4: What are the potential health impacts of menopause?
You know, he just kind of like, once Jude died, I just saw him just kind of go quickly. And that was a blessing that he didn't have this long drawn out, you know, horrible thing. But, you know, now here's my mom. She's been alone without my dad since 2021. she's buried three kids. She's now has dementia and she just, it's really hard. It's hard for her. Yeah.
And so me just openly talking to my kids about my feelings about that and like what I'm doing in my life to try to prevent, not that you can't guarantee everything, but like, I'm just trying to limit their time of dealing with me like that.
Right, right, right, right, right.
Yeah.
Do you have any advice for people who are grieving a loss of life on how to also take care of themselves so they don't decline?
So I didn't, I did it wrong the first time with Bob, you know, and I, I didn't give into the grief. I fought it. I would only cry on my drive home from work. I didn't get therapy or counseling. You know, I did everything wrong.
And so. Try to push through it.
Right. I'll be fine. And then, um, then with Jude, I said the things to him, like Bob, it, I didn't have the closure. And so with Jude, I said the things. I said all the I love yous and I said the goodbyes and I said everything wonderful. And then I really leaned into it and I let myself be sad and I let the kids see it. But I didn't want to be overly dramatic about it.
But it was such a different experience. I ate well. I knew it was coming. I worked out. I made myself do the things. So I was so much healthier through the process mentally and physically. I still grieved, but I just came out of it so much better.
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