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Gary Zukav: How To Manifest Your Soul’s Deepest Desires & Awaken To The New Consciousness

Mon, 19 May 2025

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Leave an Amazon Rating or Review for my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!Gary Zukav's journey from sex addiction to spiritual awakening reveals the transformative power of authentic choice. The four-time New York Times bestselling author shares how he evolved from feeling powerless—seeking validation through his Green Beret service and numerous sexual conquests—to discovering a new consciousness beyond the five senses. His raw vulnerability shines through as he describes the moment he realized his addiction was out of control and how meeting his spiritual partner showed him what true intimacy feels like. This conversation exposes the fundamental difference between external power (manipulating and controlling others) and authentic power (aligning your personality with your soul), delivering practical wisdom for anyone feeling trapped by fear, addiction, or the pursuit of validation in our chaotic world.The Gary Zukav PodcastGary’s books:The Seat of the SoulUniversal HumanDancing Wu Li Masters: An Enlightening Exploration of Quantum Physics, Eastern Philosophy, and the Interplay of Science and SpiritualityThe Heart of the Soul: Emotional AwarenessIn this episode you will learn:The stark difference between the old consciousness (limited to five senses) and new consciousness (awareness beyond physical reality)How to recognize when you're operating from fear versus love in your daily choicesWhy your personality contains multiple parts, some frightened and some loving, rather than being a single entityThe counter-intuitive truth that hating evil increases rather than diminishes its presenceHow to cultivate authentic power by challenging the frightened parts of your personalityWhy temptation is not external but a "dress rehearsal" for negative karmic eventsThe process of transforming from powerlessness to authentic choice through conscious awarenessHow meaningful intention differs from ego-driven goals when manifesting your dreamsFor more information go to https://www.lewishowes.com/1773For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960More SOG episodes we think you’ll love:Rhonda Byrne – greatness.lnk.to/1526SCGabby Bernstein  – greatness.lnk.to/1714SCDanny Morel – greatness.lnk.to/1734SC Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?

0.109 - 19.596 Lewis Howes

Welcome back my friend to another special episode on the School of Greatness. And I'm actually in Spain right now working on something that is a big dream for me. I'll be sharing more about it soon. If you're on social media, you might see me talking about it here in the next week or so. So feel free to stay tuned for what's happening there.

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But I just want to remind you that if you're not living fully in your life right now, if you feel stuck in some way, then ask yourself, am I doing everything I can to pursue the thing that I know I'm meant to do. And maybe you can't do all of your time pursuing it, but am I taking steps on a daily basis? Am I spending 10 minutes allowing myself to work on it? Am I doing it on the weekends?

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Am I actively planning to take steps in the future when I'm going to have more time to do it? If you're not doing it, you might feel like something's off. If there's a dream inside of you to write a book, to start creating content, to mentor young kids, whatever it might be, and you're not doing it, just get started a little bit.

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Start writing down a little bit of a game plan and start taking these steps. I'm in Spain working on this dream right now that I envisioned and planned nine months ago. Nine months ago, I wrote this down. At the end of last year, I wrote down on my calendar for this year that I will be in Spain this month. And I'm actively taking steps.

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I couldn't do everything nine months ago towards this dream, but I took steps that I could take, and then I planned to take action now. And I'm telling you what, I've been here for two weeks. I've been working on this dream of mine, and it's been a lot of hard work. It's not been easy. It hasn't been enjoyable every second because sometimes big dreams take time.

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Sometimes you need to fail and fumble along the journey in order to grow, to develop, to get better, to improve, to put yourself out there. And again, I've talked about this so many times that failure does not mean you're a loser. It's just feedback. It's information telling you what you need to still learn to improve, to get the results and the success that you want.

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So just because you're failing right now or you're not accomplishing or you haven't arrived to the results you want right now, that shouldn't be something you are sad about. It should be something that you celebrate because it means you actually have the courage to take the actions even when you weren't perfect, even when you weren't talented, even when you weren't great yet. And that's awesome.

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It's okay. That's what it takes. It takes you taking those steps, fumbling, failing along the way, and then saying, okay, I'm just going to take the information from this day and get better tomorrow. And then you come back and do it again. It doesn't mean the big dream is going to happen overnight, but it is a process.

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And if you can trust the timing of your life, trust knowing that the reason it hasn't happened yet is because you still need to learn something. You still need to develop. You still need to take action on things. And these things might take time. The bigger the dream, the longer it is it usually takes and the harder it is to get there sometimes.

Chapter 2: How can I start pursuing my dreams?

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Again, this episode is all about manifesting. It's about creating the abundance and the life within your authentic power. And you may not feel powerful because you're not being authentic. You're not being authentic because you're not taking action in pursuing the thing that you truly desire, what your heart truly wants.

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And you know what it wants, but you might just be too afraid to take the actions to go after it. So just allow yourself to take a little bit of action. You don't have to have all the time in the world to go all in. a little bit of action, your soul is going to thank you. Your spirit is going to thank you.

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Your body is going to say thank you by releasing the stress, the anger, the tension, the resentment that it has towards you from denying yourself of your dreams, from denying and robbing you of an opportunity to experience life in a more profound way than you're experiencing it right now. And if you have a dream in your soul and in your heart,

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and you know it's been speaking to you, maybe it's been whispering to you because you've been shutting it down for years. It's time to let it have a voice. It's time to let your dream speak by you actually acting on it. And I know it's scary and I know it's going to take a ton of courage from you, but that's what you need. You need more courage and to be willing to disappoint people

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to be judged, to be critiqued, to be criticized, to be laughed at. You need to be willing to have the courage and start standing up for the little boy and the little girl inside of you that has a dream that's been screaming at you to take action. That's what you deserve right now.

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And we've got Gary Zukav on the show today, who's gonna share the wisdom on what he calls the new consciousness that is emerging in humanity, which is the shift beyond the limitations of our five senses that allows us to experience non-physical reality and live from authentic power.

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He's gonna give a transformational framework for creating authentic power by aligning your personality with your soul. This conversation will support you if you have a big dream and you haven't been acting on it fully yet. Take your notes. Write it down, start reflecting, and start taking action.

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And if you're enjoying this episode, make sure to share with one or two friends that you care about, people you wanna see shine, people you wanna celebrate in life, and you wanna keep reminding them of the authentic power they have inside of them so they can unleash it into the world. So again, share this with one or two friends that you care about as you listen to this.

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Make sure to tag me on social media so I can see what you're thinking and how you're reflecting on this episode. I'm so grateful you're here. I appreciate you. Without further ado, let's dive into this episode. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest.

Chapter 3: What is the difference between old consciousness and new consciousness?

867.041 - 883.31 Gary Zukav

And she would come over and we would talk sometimes in the afternoon. And sometimes that was pleasant. And other times I just wanted to leave. I didn't, I was very uncomfortable. And after about six months, I began to think, I'm in a relationship.

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think this is what happens Wow then she went to Europe for a couple of weeks and during that time I realized I don't want to live in a cabin next down down a street across a little town from hers I want to live with her and when she came back she'd had the same realization it was a sweet realization it was effortless and we moved into my little cabin together.

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And that's when things continued to happen. For all the time we were together, our togetherness was so easy, so effortless, so real, so complete, so deep. I don't think, I thought a relationship had to have a lot of struggle and do you love me? I want you to feel my love. No, I just loved her. Just loved her completely.

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What do you think shifted inside of you from being a sex addict and being attracted to pleasures to being able to align your soul to attract a spiritual partner that was beyond the pleasure world?

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949.373 - 972.496 Gary Zukav

Yes, it didn't jump from A to B. It was, I already knew. This book, The Seed of the Soul, describes exactly my process in going to and through and out the other side of my addiction to sex. And I recommend it to everyone, whether your addiction is to alcohol or drugs or sex or masturbating or pornography or shopping or gambling.

974.938 - 993.675 Gary Zukav

An addiction is a part of your personality that's out of your control. It's in the control of the external world. It's your greatest inadequacy. But it is a frightened part of your personality, and it can be treated the same way as any frightened part of your personality.

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What is at the root cause of all addiction?

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Fear. Pain. It's the same. Fear is pain. Emotional pain is fear. Emotional pain is physical pain. And when you read this book, you learn how to learn when you're in fear. Or when you're in love, somatically, through your body, it won't lie to you. So, for example, if you're feeling a painful physical sensation, a painful emotional experience, then you put your attention inside of you, not outside.

1031.444 - 1048.178 Gary Zukav

This is where the old consciousness has you put your attention. Because from that perspective, it's the world that's producing pain in you. So to relieve yourself of the pain requires changing the world. That's manipulation and control. That's external power.

Chapter 4: What is authentic power?

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Yeah.

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2198.968 - 2232.448 Gary Zukav

And so I can speak from this perspective now. I have a non-physical teacher, an angel, and I have another one also, and so did Linda, same one. And I asked my teacher once, I told him, I want to die consciously. I want to be aware when I die. How can I do that? How can I die consciously? And he said, Gary, I suggest that you focus on living consciously.

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Because what I know now that I didn't know then, and I will share with you and with our viewers, you are your perceptions. They're not happening to you. You're not having them You are your perceptions. What does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. It is a suggestion for you to look at. You are your perceptions.

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What are your perceptions?

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I am sitting here talking to an old friend, Lewis Howells, in his new studio in another location. And he's had experiences that are different in his life since we last met, and so have I. These are my perceptions. The studio has got black walls. There are two books on this table. Lewis is sitting in front of me.

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And these will, that's, now, you ask the question in a way that already gave an incorrect answer. What are your perceptions now? What are you now? I can answer that in many ways. I'm a powerful and creative, compassionate and loving spirit. I'm a universal human. I'm beyond nation, beyond religion, beyond culture, beyond ethnic group, beyond gender. I am not a child of the universe.

2327.349 - 2363.187 Gary Zukav

I am an adult citizen of the universe. My allegiance is to Life, capital L, first, and everything else second. For example, I am a universal human first. and a male second. I am a universal human first and white second. I am a universal human first and a grandfather second. I am A universal human, first. My allegiance is to life, first. And everything else, second.

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All of these are happening at the same time. And there's only time here in the Earth School. The new consciousness is taking us to these places, Louis, not immediately, if it's like in my case. In my case, the big news was there's a new consciousness that's not limited to the five senses. I know that I'm more than a mind and a body and so does the people around me. That was the big news.

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That was the headliner. It still is as we're transiting from five sensory to multi-sensory humanity. But even as we're making this huge shift, this unprecedented epic transformation in human consciousness, we're being called to something beyond. We can't name it.

Chapter 5: How can we identify our soul's desires?

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And I think that's what all of us want is authentic power, not being drawn to something else because we feel powerless. We're going to go have sex or we're going to go do drugs or we're going to go get success.

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I felt that exactly. But I know now, and I'm sharing with you now, that it's not I that felt that. It was frightened parts of my personality. Parts of my personality. Your personality is not a single monolithic thing. It's got many different parts and they all experience power.

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the world differently some of them come from fear some of them come from love and creating authentic power requires becoming aware of all of them with emotional awareness and then consciously choosing yes for example when a frightened part of your personality is active and you're in pain That is a time that you can use your will, your volition, to put your attention into a loving part.

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A time when you were loved and loving and you knew it. And then choose in that moment to act and speak from the loving part while you are experiencing the painful physical sensations and the critical judgmental thoughts of the frightened part. That is the moment of creating authentic power. That's when the rubber meets the road.

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4157.912 - 4177.672 Lewis Howes

What I'm hearing you say is authentic power is not reacting to your circumstances or to your environment based on how you feel, but feeling and knowing that there is sadness or fear and security in a situation, but rising above it and responding with authentic power in a conscious way, not a scared way.

4177.992 - 4198.658 Gary Zukav

Yes. Functionally, that's exactly right. The way you expressed it is a little more poetic in the actual functioning of it. I wasn't thinking these things. I just knew, I'm not going to do this anymore. But it wasn't as simple as that. You don't say that to an addiction and it stops. You go through it. You experience the pain under it.

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The frightened part under it is pain, the pain of powerlessness. What is the pain of powerlessness? Everyone has it. Five sensory humans, multi-sensory humans. It's the experience of wanting to belong and not belonging. It's wanting to be loved and knowing you're unlovable. It's wanting to love and knowing you're not capable of loving. It's wanting... Wanting to be enough. Yes. at least enough.

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Frightened parts want more. They want to be more, much more. It's a bottomless pit of what they want. Admiration, knowledge of sex, money, education, the best equipment to ski on, dreadlocks down to your waist. Whatever it is that impresses and manipulates people, they want it. And they have to have it because this is a matter of

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Life and death in a way for them is very Look at our president look at the people with him. Look at the extent to which they must have power the external part Manipulation and control it's not a by the way. This is what I'd like to do with my life. They're controlled They have no ability to say no to this they do

Chapter 7: How do our past experiences shape our present?

Chapter 8: What does it mean to live consciously?

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It's not only billionaires who are discontent, but you would think from the old consciousness, from the perspective of the old consciousness, that if they can buy whatever they want, whatever woman they want, whatever man they want, whatever home they want, and how many, as many as they want, that there must be some satisfaction in that. But that is not a pinnacle. It is simply an experience.

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And we have experiences in the Earth School. As long as you are striving for something to fill an emptiness in you, There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing right or wrong with it. But that itself is the pursuit of external power and it produces only violence and destruction in your life as well. That's why we're here to talk about love. Yes. That's why We're alive.

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That's why we have a life in the earth school. And I know my life has gotten simple. I know that I don't try to control my life or what's in it. I'm not responsible for that. I am responsible for my choices.

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And that. That's it. That's it. So how can someone then get clear on the intention they want to set up for themselves? Say if it's a teenager trying to get into a good school, if it's someone in their 20s trying to get a great career, someone in their 30s trying to get into a good marriage.

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You're going back to the same question again and again. And I love you for it because you're trying to support people who are most in need of support. Yes. How can they start to, what's the intention? You experiment with your life.

4829.938 - 4858.258 Gary Zukav

you follow your meaning if you're drawn to read a book like this or to listen to a podcast like this listen to it and then follow the counsel that i offered as a possibility at the beginning of this podcast if you hear anything that i say or that lewis says in this podcast or with any of his guests in any of his podcasts that resonates with you experiment with him just listen to it don't just say that was nice oh i like that or oh i don't like that

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experiment with it take it into your life apply it yes and see what it produces and if it doesn't produce what you want Keep experimenting. Keep experimenting.

4871.715 - 4889.401 Lewis Howes

You have this quote, which says this as well, in the seat of the soul, which again, I want everyone to get this book, because if you're feeling confused, this is going to give you a lot of clarity to get start with. Then we've got universal human, which would talk about true authentic power. But your quote on this is really interesting in the seat of the soul.

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You say that the decisions that you make and the actions that you take upon the earth are the means by which you evolve. At each moment, you choose the intentions that will shape your experiences and those things upon which you will focus your attention. These choices affect your evolutionary process. This is so for each person.

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