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Madison Marsh on Courage, Confidence, and Compassion

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Madison Marsh on Courage, Confidence, and Compassion

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I love how you bring up the suck because that's something that's a famous slogan of the SEAL teams, embrace the suck. And I think people think about SEALs and they think they go through BUDS, Basic Underwater Demolition School, and they immediately get the Trident. And that's not the case. Typically, it takes another 18 months, two years to finally pin on the Trident.

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And I have many friends and classmates who are SEALs. And what they tell me is, Anyone can get through a day of SEAL training. What the difficulty comes is, as you're describing, is it's getting up every single day, realizing that you're going to have to endure the suck and facing it and having the willpower to get through it and persevering. And that's what shapes them.

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The same thing is what you're describing shapes any passion that you want to do. So thanks for bringing that up. And many people have misconceptions about pageants. And you have said, as I've listened to and watched in other interviews, that pageantry shares many of the same core values with the military, such as leadership, public speaking, community service.

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What do you think people misunderstand the most about pageants? And what surprised you when you got involved?

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Madison Marsh on Courage, Confidence, and Compassion

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Thank you for sharing that. And becoming Miss America is no small feat. And I think that there's this stereotype that people have about Miss America, that they would think that you're different from a lot of the women who compete. But as I have come to understand it, as I have been studying this more and more, the talents that the women have are incredible.

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And the questions that you guys are asked during the competition really require a deep intellect to be able to answer them. I was hoping that maybe you can talk about that experience and some of the questions that were thrown at you and some of the other women who competed.

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The other thing that I think was so unique about your approach to the pageant was your talent performance. You did a monologue about your first solo flight, which was really, I thought, unconventional, but very impactful. What inspired that choice and how did you prepare to deliver such a unique performance?

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First, I sat down with Jessica Zweig, bestselling author of The Light Work. Jessica shared how embracing the concept of light has empowered her personal and spiritual growth. We talked about reframing inner darkness, unlocking infinite potential, and living a more inclusive, love-filled life.

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And I've heard you talk about, people have asked you the question, how do you feel about being a boundary breaker? And you always go to all the women who preceded you and all the other leaders who preceded you to break boundaries. But what you have done is pretty remarkable to be the first active duty military officer to earn this title.

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What does it mean to break this barrier and how have those others before you inspired your journey?

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I think that's such an important message. And I'll go back to my story about Wendy Lawrence, who became an astronaut. She was in the second class of females at the Naval Academy. I think it was the class of 81. And to put even more pressure on, her father was the superintendent during that time.

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Next, we welcome George Appling, author of Don't Settle, how to make the most of your one extraordinary life. George shared his insights on resilience, mindset, and intentional action to create a life that aligns with your deepest passions. His message on never settling is one we can all take to heart as we navigate our own paths to purpose. And if you'd prefer to watch these,

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So I can't even imagine what that would have been like, especially when he kept showing up on the hall to go visit her or would call her on the phone and they come to her room and say, The soup's on the phone for you.

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But I also interviewed Vice Admiral Sandy Stowes, who was one of the first females to graduate from the Coast Guard Academy, ended up coming back to be their superintendent. And she told me, that typically during that time, about 60% of Coast Guard graduates would make it through. But for the first classes of females, it was under 30% just because they were harassed and tried to push out so much.

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So just hearing their stories and how they had, I guess they felt that they had to be even better to make it through and to push through is just an amazing story for both of them to see where they've ended up. So one of the things that being Miss America allows you to do is to have a platform of sorts, because you're on all kinds of media programs.

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Madison Marsh on Courage, Confidence, and Compassion

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In this one year, I can't even imagine what it's been like, the whirlwind you've been through. But for you, It's allowed you to do something that's very personal and has the ability to influence people worldwide. That is to talk about the Whitney Marsh Foundation that was founded in memory of your mom, which is such a powerful and personal initiative.

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Can you tell us how that began and what you hope to achieve through its work?

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That's such a noble mission. I have a friend, Bill, who has fought cancer now six times, and I actually had him on this program. But what he told me, I hadn't really thought about it through this lens, is that you have to look when you're fighting cancer almost as if it becomes a business, because people don't realize

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that in order to get the treatment, you need to go to the best place that they can provide it. And oftentimes, as you're saying, that's not in close proximity to you. So you have to figure out the logistics of how do you get there? How do you cover the costs? How do you get people to care for your home and potentially pets and other things while you're going there or if you have kids, et cetera?

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So there's a real need to have cancer treatment closer to where people live because it's difficult to get that support. What are your thoughts on that?

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People who are regular listeners to this know that my sister passed away earlier this year, also from pancreatic cancer. She first developed it when she was 46. And I remember after she had gotten the Whipple surgery and it ended up coming back, she was really put in this place after they did several rounds of chemo that she had to do clinical trials.

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And I remember she was having to do it in San Antonio, which meant that in order to do that, the logistics were twice a month. She had to find a way to get down there to San Antonio. She had a son who was in middle school. So it was very challenging. So I just look at what she went through and how important that could be.

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Madison Marsh on Courage, Confidence, and Compassion

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So because of your mom and my sister, you and I are both, we both hold pancreatic cancer awareness and research close to our hearts. And I know we both try to support PanCan as much as we can, who has made some huge strives in both increasing the awareness and prolonging the lifespan of so many people who are faced with this devastating disease. What progress do you see as being made in pancreatic

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Today, we're joined by Madison Marsh, the reigning Miss America, who is redefining what it means to lead, serve and break barriers. At just 23 years old, Madison has made history as the first active duty Air Force officer to hold the Miss America title. but her impact extends far beyond the crown.

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cancer research and treatment, and how can people support this cause?

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the needs that we can meet in the coming years i think that's so important and i think one of the keys to pancreatic cancer is early detection because the most feasible treatment that they can give you is the whipple surgery which has had the most profound effect on people having longevity yet it's often caught so late and i'm happy to hear that there are companies like epi one

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who have now found blood work tests that people can take that will tell you if you've got the precursors for this so that you can get examined more regularly if you are one of those people who meet those criteria. And I hope so much more of that comes.

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Plus, I really hope that they find a way that they can utilize immunotherapy and find ways to penetrate the membrane of pancreatic cancer, which has been really problematic in treating it with chemotherapy, immunotherapy, and everything else. So those are some of the big things I hope to see in the future. So you have really used your platform to amplify the foundation's mission.

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What do you think has been the most rewarding moment in your advocacy journey so far?

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She's a tireless advocate for pancreatic cancer awareness and a passionate voice for breaking stereotypes about women and pageantry and the military. In this engaging and thought-provoking conversation, we cover how she's balancing dual roles.

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I had Maria Menounos on the podcast earlier this year to highlight her journey, and I'm really grateful for the work that she is also doing to try to help get the word out about this with the platform that she has. Are there additional stories from the PanCan family that you'd like to share of inspiration and to give listeners hope?

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I mean, those stories are truly inspirational and thank you for highlighting that. And I'll make sure We put all the resources to PanCan and the past interviews that I've done in here as well, because I've had Julie on the podcast and the chief science officer and some other members as well of their community. So I wanna go back to Miss America for a second.

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In our discussion, Madison discusses how she navigates the unprecedented demands of her military career while embracing the responsibilities of being Miss America. We go into pageantry with purpose. Madison's journey into pageantry as a passion project and her commitment to leaving a legacy that continues to break barriers.

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Madison Marsh on Courage, Confidence, and Compassion

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I have a classmate from the Naval Academy who ended up playing professional football for the Green Bay Packers, actually won a Super Bowl ring. And I know for him, he had a lot of trial and tribulation trying to convince the Secretary of the Navy at the time to allow him to play. It wasn't the easiest thing for him to do. I understand from following you that

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As you were pursuing this, you were very open with the Air Force about the fact that you were doing the pageant. You went to your commanding officer and leadership chain and kind of said, the chances of me becoming Miss America are very slim, one out of 52, but you wanted to prepare for it, et cetera. So how has the Air Force supported your role as Miss America?

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We discuss how she's reframing Miss America, debunking misconceptions about the competition, and showcasing the intelligence, leadership, and talent that define modern Miss America contestants.

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It's got to be a lot doing this and being in the military full time. How do you balance doing both and how do you put 100% into being able to do both?

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We go through her dedication to a life of service, Madison's personal connection to military service, her pride in safeguarding freedoms, and her mission to inspire the next generation by showing them what's possible.

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I think that's such an important message, whether you're in the military or you're a leader overseeing people in a civilian role. It's showing up for the people around you. And I think that's one of the reasons we have so much disengagement today is because people don't feel like they hold significance in their roles.

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They don't feel like the companies treat them as if they matter and that what they're doing is important. that being reinforced and people being treated for their individual talents. So I think you're really onto something there with what you were just talking about.

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I looking back when you first won this award, you knew if you were going to win it, that you were going to be thrust into the limelight, you were going to have to be on all these TV programs, etc. But once you went from imagining it to actually doing it, how big a chasm did that turn out to be?

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then lastly we go into advocating for change her work as the founder of the whitney marsh foundation where she's dedicated to raising awareness for pancreatic cancer and how she's turning a personal tragedy into a platform for hope and action madison's story is a powerful testament to living with purpose the courage to challenge societal norms and the resilience to turn life's greatest challenges into opportunities for growth

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I used to go to church in Austin, Texas with Matthew McConaughey. And for about 18 months, he got to come religiously and be himself with his kids and his wife. And it was fantastic because he was just He just wanted to go to church. He just wanted to have a place where he could be himself, I felt, by observing him.

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And then all of a sudden, I guess some people put up social media posts that they had seen him there. And so the paparazzi started showing up and I really felt bad for him. And being in this role, it's gotta give you some understanding of what it's like to be a celebrity and the challenges that they face.

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What's one thing that you would say to listeners about when someone's in that position, a lot of people say, Matthew, he's this movie star, he deserves this scrutiny that he gets and he shouldn't have a public life.

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Whether you're intrigued by the behind the scenes realities of balancing two high profile careers, inspired to use your platform for advocacy, or simply looking for actionable ways to live more intentionally, this episode is for you. So get ready to go beyond the crown and into the heart of service, impact, and legacy with Madison Marsh, Miss America.

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As the face of the Air Force, which you've become, probably not even wanting to be that, but it's literally what you've become, and Miss America, how do you see your role in inspiring the next generation to consider military service? And what message do you hope to share with potential recruits about the opportunities and values in the Air Force, but in all the services?

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Thank you so much for that. And I completely agree with you. We need leaders of character protecting our freedom. So we started this whole episode talking about outer space and your desire to become an astronaut. And I want to use that to lead into a quote that I've heard you talk about. You said the sky is not the limit and the only person stopping you is you.

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How has this philosophy guided you through the challenges you faced and how do you hope to inspire others to embrace the mindset in their own lives?

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Thank you for choosing PassionStruck and choosing me to be your host and guide on your journey to creating an intentional life. Now, let that journey begin. I am so honored today to have Madison Marsh, Miss America, on the podcast. Welcome, Madison.

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Madison Marsh on Courage, Confidence, and Compassion

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oftentimes what gets to become the barrier for people pursuing their dreams or not is self-belief. What would be your advice to listeners and viewers on how you would suggest they build that self-belief that they can do anything they put their mind to?

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Okay. And the last thing I just want to ask you and leave with is your mom. What's a little thing that she did that stayed with you forever?

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Well, I think Webster should put in under psychological wealth what you just talked about because that's really what it is. Well, Madison, thank you so much for being here and congratulations again. And I know you're probably happy and sad to see this phase of your life come to a close, but I'm sure you're exhausted at this point. Thank you again for coming on the show.

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Madison Marsh on Courage, Confidence, and Compassion

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So for my regular listeners of Passion Struck, they know I went to the Naval Academy and I always like to get the background paths to those who end up going and serving. I understand you grew up in Arkansas and you dreamed of becoming an astronaut, which I love this because one of my classmates, Chris Cassidy, was the chief astronaut. Love Chris.

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It was really an honor to have you.

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What an inspiring conversation with Madison Marsh. Her story of breaking barriers as the first active duty Air Force officer crowned Miss America, her relentless advocacy for pancreatic cancer awareness, and her ability to balance service, leadership, and purpose is nothing short of extraordinary.

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Madison Marsh on Courage, Confidence, and Compassion

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Madison's journey reminds us of the power of resilience, intentionality, and using our passions to make a difference in the lives of others. As you reflect on today's episode, think about this. What legacy do you want to leave? How can you take your passions and transform them into a purpose that not only fulfills you, but also serves others?

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Like Madison demonstrated, our challenges don't define us. They shape the mission we're called to fulfill. All the links to Madison's work, including the Whitney Marsh Foundation and her advocacy for pancreatic cancer awareness, will be in the show notes at passionstruck.com. Please use those links to learn more. It's a great way to support her mission. and the show.

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For more resources to help you live a purpose-driven life, head over to passionstruck.com where you can take our Passion Struck quiz or sign up for the Live Intentionally newsletter packed with weekly insights, exercises, and challenges to ignite your potential. If Madison's story resonated with you, please take a moment to leave a five-star rating and review.

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It makes a huge difference in helping us reach others with these powerful stories. And don't forget to share this episode with someone who could use a dose of inspiration and encouragement today. Now, here's a sneak peek of what's coming up next on Passion Struck. I'm joined by Caroline Adams Miller.

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a trailblazing expert in the field of positive psychology and goal setting, and author of Big Goals, The Science of Setting Them, Achieving Them, and Creating Your Best Life. And our conversation will dive into the science of achieving big goals, cultivating grit, and finding lasting happiness.

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Caroline's practical insights and actionable strategies will help you push past mediocrity and unlock your best life.

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What sparked your fascination with space and how did those early ambitions shape your path to going to the Air Force Academy?

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When I was a mid, my physics instructor was Wendy Lawrence. Wendy became the first Naval Academy female alumni to go to space. And she's been my mentor now ever since, so 30 plus years. But I remember talking to her and she told me very similarly that she saw this path to the Naval Academy, then becoming a pilot. doing all the things that she needed to become an astronaut, which she did.

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So you end up going to the Air Force Academy, and this is right after your mom, who we're gonna talk a lot about today, had a very heroic battle with pancreatic cancer. How did her passing in 2018 impact your journey and your aspirations at that point?

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Welcome to passion struck. Hi, I'm your host, John R. Miles. And on the show, we decipher the secrets, tips and guidance of the world's most inspiring people and turn their wisdom into practical advice for you and those around you. Our mission is to help you unlock the power of intentionality so that you can become the best version of yourself.

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The academies are all known for being rigorous. And I remember my plea beer and the stresses that were thrown upon me. I can't imagine having to navigate that environment while still grieving the loss of a parent. How difficult was that for you during those, when you were first at the academy?

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I have written a book called Passion Struck and in it, I describe my experience at the Naval Academy and the importance that grit had, the combination of perseverance and passion and helping me get through. How did your early struggles at the Academy help you develop grit and helped you become who you are today?

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If you're new to the show, I offer advice and answer listener questions on Fridays. We have long-form interviews the rest of the week with guests ranging from astronauts to authors, CEOs, creators, innovators, scientists, military leaders, visionaries, and athletes. Now, let's go out there and become PassionStruck. Hey, PassionStruck fam. Welcome to episode 547 of the PassionStruck podcast.

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And I think the Air Force Academy is similar to the Naval Academy in that you're judged on your academics, of course, but you're also judged on your military bearing. And then there's always a physical component to it as well. So what people don't understand about the grading system is it's much more complex.

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When I was there, our grades compared to people at civilian schools were much lower because of the different elements of it. Um, but it is definitely a challenging time. And there are often aspects of it where you're trying to seek out fun because you have so much stress on you that you're looking for an escape.

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For me, I kind of did that because I was a division one runner, but even with that, that brings on even more stress. And as I've done research on you, your interest in pageantry came during this challenging time as an outlet for fun and personal growth. Is that correct?

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So how did you end up doing that? Because looking back, I just can't imagine doing everything that we had to do and then layering another challenge on top of it where you would have to prep and do all the things that you do. So how did you go about that?

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My plebe year roommate, and we were company mates the entire time I was there, was a Rhodes Scholar. And I know just how rigorous it was for him to go through that process. So congratulations for you for doing that. This whole podcast is really about. how intentional choices shape who we become. And you're just removed from the Air Force Academy.

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And right now, all the services are having issues with recruitment. And the same thing goes with the service academies. The number of people who are applying in some ways is down from what it used to be. What made you have the intentional choices to pursue these passions

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And how would you recommend young listeners who might be tuning in today could make the decision to pursue something hard like going to the Air Force Academy or like trying out for a pageantry? Because I think oftentimes we end up taking the easier path.

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I'm your host, John Miles, and as always, I want to begin by thanking you for being here and for your commitment to living more intentionally and passionately. Whether you've been with us from the start or tuning in for the first time, you're part of an incredible community focused on growth, purpose, and igniting passion in every area of life.

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Caroline Adams Miller on the Keys to Achieving Big Goals | EP 548

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Before we dive in to today's episode, let's take a moment to recap my episode from earlier in the week, where I had the honor of sitting down with Madison Marsh, Miss America 2024. Madison shared her inspiring journey to the crown and her mission to use her platform to promote mental health awareness

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pancreatic cancer awareness and empower young women while leading with authenticity if you missed this episode i highly encourage you to go back and listen it's a powerful conversation filled with insights on resilience purpose and making a meaningful impact and if you're looking to explore more themes like leadership mental health and personal growth don't forget to check out our episode starter packs curated playlist designed to guide you through the best of our 540 plus episodes they're available on spotify or at passionstruck.com starter packs

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I have a couple of things to respond to that. One, I love what you just said that to get things into your life, you had to give first and you have to constantly give. And I think that's such an important reminder for someone. And the second thing that you brought up throughout this is

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I recently had Bo Eason, a well-known public speaker on the show, and we were talking about what stories do best when you're public speaking. And he said, no one wants to hear the story of Tom Brady talking about his seven Super Bowl wins.

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They want to hear about the lowest point of his life when he was at Michigan and almost decided to throw in the towel, but made the decision to become what he is today. And I think the same thing goes with this story. And oftentimes people... are afraid to share these stories.

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I was afraid to share some of these dark moments in my life, but I think since I've been doing it and I see other people doing it, these are the stories that people learn the best from. So thank you for sharing.

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And I'm going to tie this into your new book, big goals, the science of setting them, achieving them and creating your best life, which I just want to acknowledge is a must read on the next, next big idea clubs, best books for 2025. So congratulations on that.

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So when you're facing something like addiction, like bulimia, when you think about that, it's a really big goal to overcome that dilemma in your life. How does this book, when you look back in time, relate to that trauma you were going through at that time and that goal that you had to set?

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For even more inspiration, sign up for my Live Intentionally newsletter at passionstruck.com. It's filled with exclusive content to help you apply the wisdom from our episodes into your daily life. And don't forget every conversation we have here is also available in video form on our YouTube channel. where you can watch, share, and grow with others who are passionate about creating change.

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I think you just named two great examples. I think it's important because it's top of mind to go through another one. And I have flown American Airlines for years and years, have right now a million and a half miles on them. And they are a huge Boeing customer. But there was one point in time when they were going to move to a different carrier.

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And they went to Boeing and said, if you don't do something, we're going to move away from you. And so what happened to Boeing's culture? Because I think it's important to talk about this because I remember when I was doing my MBA studies, I took this course and The professor said, I want you to look at the Fortune 500 from the 1970s and how many companies are on the list today.

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And the strange thing about this is if you do this for the 80s, the 90s, the 2000s, you'll get the same answer. So many companies disappear because they get comfortable in what they're doing and they lose the creativity and inventiveness. And this is exactly what happened to Boeing. Maybe you can use this goal setting failure to describe their story.

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Today, we're diving into a topic that is fundamental to living a fulfilling and purpose-driven life, goal setting. My guest is the renowned positive psychologist and bestselling author, Caroline Adams Miller. Caroline has been a trailblazer in the science of goal setting, grit, and success for over three decades. She's one of the world's leading experts in positive psychology and

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In the book, you also draw a parallel between Dr. Andrew Huberman's ability to distill complex research that he's doing into actionable protocols. And your mission, as you've been discussing is to make goal setting science accessible to everyone.

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So how did Huberman's approach inspire your work and what lessons are you taking from his method into your own real world application?

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and her groundbreaking work has transformed how we approach personal and professional growth. Caroline's latest book, Big Goals, The Science of Setting Them, Achieving Them, Creating Your Best Life, challenges the traditional ways we think about goal setting and introduces a research-backed framework to help us accomplish transformative goals.

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She brings fresh perspective to Locke and Latham's goal setting theory, a powerful yet overlooked concept, and explains how we can use it to unlock our potential and achieve lasting happiness. In our conversation, Caroline shares her Bridge Framework, a revolutionary approach to goal setting that blends science, grit, and the psychology of flourishing.

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I love it. So one of the things that you mention in the book is that men and women approach goals differently. And oftentimes biases and traditional systems penalize women for behaviors that reward men. What steps outside of an individual, like what steps can organizations take to create more equitable and effective goal setting practices?

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We explore why big goals are essential for personal growth, how the self-esteem movement hindered goal achievement, and the actionable steps you can take to set and stick to goals that truly matter.

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Whether you're a young professional, a parent, or anyone seeking greater clarity and direction in life, this episode is packed with insights that will inspire you to think bigger, act boldly, and create a life aligned with your purpose. Let's dive in with Caroline Adams Miller as we explore the science of setting big goals and unlocking the life you were meant to live.

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Thank you for choosing PassionStruck and choosing me to be your host and guide on your journey to creating an intentional life. Now, let that journey begin. I am so excited today to bring Caroline Adams Miller to the PassionStruck audience. Welcome, Caroline.

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For whatever reason, what you just brought up triggered in my mind something that you and I were talking about before the podcast, and that's Albert Maduro's self-efficacy theory. And in the book, you connect self-efficacy theory with goal-setting theory, emphasizing the importance of building confidence and resilience to tackle big goals.

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A good friend of mine, Scott Simon, has this book, Scare Your Soul, which I love because he talks about the importance of courage muscles to help you achieve goals. What are some steps listeners can take to develop their I can do it muscle and increase the likelihood of committing to and achieving ambitious goals?

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Caroline, you and I have been chatting now for a few months on different topics. And the more I learn about your story, the more it resonates with me. And I think it's important for the audience to hear part of the backstory. And so I want to start at when you were at University of Pennsylvania, because this happened when you're in your mid 40s.

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Welcome to Passion Struck. Hi, I'm your host, John R. Miles. And on the show, we decipher the secrets, tips, and guidance of the world's most inspiring people and turn their wisdom into practical advice for you and those around you. Our mission is to help you unlock the power of intentionality so that you can become the best version of yourself.

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So one of the things I think it takes... to realize a big goal and to even set one is giving yourself psychological safety, something that Amy Edmondson has pioneered and you talk about in the book. What do you think is this correlation between psychological safety and goal setting?

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While you're raising three children, you make this bold decision to join the first ever Masters of Applied Positive Psychology program. And most people at this stage, and I hear it a lot, when people see the cover of my book, or they hear about the podcast, that they fear it's too late to try something new or they fear they've lost their sense of passion and it's too late for them to regain it.

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And I can't talk about this whole topic without getting into grit with you. So in the book you talk about, well, let's go back for a second. You wrote Getting Grit in 2017, which Angela Duckworth has said is one of the best science-based approaches that she has seen outside of her own work.

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In my own book, Passion Struck, which I know you've read, I describe that being passion struck is this combination of grit and intentionality. And in the book, you mentioned that to go after your goals, you need self motivation in order to do it. And that really unleashes the grit.

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So when you think about intentionality, or I think Angela would call it self control in her research, how powerful is that intentionality in building grit and applying it to the goals you're trying to achieve?

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So I think it's important for them to hear your backstory. What drove you to take that leap? And how did reclaiming your purpose during that time shift your sense of mattering

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Thank you so much for doing that correlation because I think it's important for the audience. As I was getting further into your book, One of the best frameworks or exercises that you bring up that I think would be valuable for listeners is something out of positive psychology called best possible future self. Can you describe what this is?

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And I want them to go to your book to use it, but why this is something they should be keyed in on?

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As you saw in my own book, I think it's extremely important to tie these principles to science because then it really shows that locking mechanism. So I'm so glad you did it. And I think that's why it's getting so many accolades even before it's launched. The last thing, Caroline, I want to talk about is a metaphor that you use in the book.

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And I heard this metaphor used recently in another book by Adam Grant, Hidden Potential, where he talks a lot about scaffolding. Can you talk about why it's important to build your scaffolding of your bridge and how that relates to achieving a specific goal.

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Caroline, thank you for sharing that and for this amazing conversation. I have one last question for you. You write at the end of your book, the greatest gift you can give to others and to me is for you to share these techniques and tools with people who have never heard of them. What's your challenge to listeners on how they can walk someone else across the bridge?

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Well, thank you so much for joining us today. What is the best place for people to go to learn more about you?

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Well, Caroline, it was such an honor to have you today. And I was so anticipating doing this interview and it totally lived up to my expectations and exceeded them. So thank you so much.

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Well, I think my challenge or goal to readers and listeners is to buy both our books because as you rightly pointed out, I covered a lot of things, but goal setting is something I should have focused more on and now they have a whole book on it. So you can use that to help you accomplish the tiny actions and micro choices that I talk about in the book.

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Wow, what an inspiring and thought-provoking conversation that was with Caroline Adams Miller. Today's episode was a deep dive into the science of goal setting and achieving the life you truly want. Caroline's bridge framework and her insights into the psychology of grit and human flourishing have given us powerful tools to pursue big goals with intentionality and resilience.

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Her message is a reminder that setting meaningful goals isn't just about achievement. It's about transformation, growth, and unlocking your full potential. As we close, I encourage you to reflect on the big goals in your life. Are you aligning your actions with your aspirations? Are you challenging yourself to go beyond the status quo and embrace the discomfort of growth?

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Caroline's wisdom offers actionable steps to help you create a life filled with purpose and meaning. If Caroline's message resonated with you, please take a moment to leave a five-star rating and review. Your feedback helps us continue to bring transformative conversations to the PassionStruck community.

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And if you know someone who could benefit from this episode, share it with them because a single idea can spark profound change. You can find links to everything we discussed today, including Caroline's book, Big Goals, in the show notes at PassionStruck.com. You can also watch the video version of this conversation on YouTube.

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And don't forget to explore our sponsors and exclusive deals at PassionStruck.com slash deals. Supporting our partners allows us to keep bringing you these impactful episodes. Before we go, I want to remind you that I'm passionate about bringing these insights to organizations and teams through speaking engagements.

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If today's conversation inspired you and you think it could benefit your workplace, visit johnrmiles.com slash speaking to learn more about how we can ignite intentional change and growth together. Next week, I'm honored to welcome Dr. Abraham George, a visionary leader and social entrepreneur who has dedicated his life to reducing poverty and inequality in India.

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Dr. George is the founder of the George Foundation and the Shanti Bhavan Initiative that provides education, healthcare, and empowerment to those in need. His pioneering work has transformed the lives of over 15,000 individuals as well as their communities, and his insights into leadership, philanthropy, and social justice will inspire you to think differently

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about how you can make meaningful impact in the world. This is a conversation you don't want to miss.

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Remember, the fee for the show is simple. If you found value in today's episode, share it with someone who could benefit. And as always, take what you've learned here and put it into action so that you can live what you listen. Until next time, live life passion-struck.

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If you're new to the show, I offer advice and answer listener questions on Fridays. We have long form interviews the rest of the week with guests ranging from astronauts to authors, CEOs, creators, innovators, scientists, military leaders, visionaries, and athletes. Now let's go out there and become passion struck. Hey, passion struck family.

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Well, I have to ask, you got to study under Marty, Chris Peterson, Angela Duckworth, Barry Swartz, Barbara Fredrickson, and you just mentioned that study. So Sonia was one of the three authors of it. What was it like? I mean, some of those are my favorite people I've read and studied.

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That is super inspiring and makes me just think of everything I think about the program is what it delivers. So, well, I want to ask a follow-on question to this. So many people today feel like they've lost their sense of mattering. They feel hopeless, which we're going to talk about further in the interview, but a lot are unsure how to reignite their passion.

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What lessons from your journey can you share with others who may feel stuck or searching for ways to find meaning and purpose in their own lives?

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Welcome back to episode 548 of the passion struck podcast. I'm your host, John Miles, and I am so grateful for the incredible energy, enthusiasm, and dedication you bring to this community week after week. Your commitment to living a purpose-driven and intentional life is what makes the PassionStruck movement so powerful. And together, we're creating a ripple effect of positive change.

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Well, I want to do a little bit deeper dive on this since you brought it up. I was going to do it later, but we might as well do it now. So the story here is you are at Harvard, you're a competitive swimmer, and you have all these incredible achievements on the outside. But privately, you're battling this eating disorder that almost cost you your life.

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If you're tuning in for the first time, welcome. You've just joined a global community of game changers who are igniting their purpose and pursuing lives of boldness, meaning, and impact. We're so thrilled to have you on this journey.

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And I think there are probably people listening to this who are facing maybe not an eating disorder, but an addiction battle or some other battle where they're outside is completely different than how they're feeling on the inside.

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Can you take us back to that period and share what it was like to be the girl who had it all while facing a deeply personal struggle and what it took you to have the strength to break free in that period of time?

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Coming up next on PassionStruck, what if everything you thought about success was backwards? What if the secret to achieving more isn't grinding harder or playing it safe, but something far simpler and often overlooked? In this episode, I'll explore a mindset that has propelled some of the world's most daring and accomplished people to extraordinary heights. It's not about luck or genius.

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List one activity that made you feel alive or engaged. For instance, cooking, solving a tough problem, or playing with your kids. Small wins. Write down one thing you accomplished, big or small. Maybe you sent that email you've been avoiding. finished a workout, or simply stayed calm during a stressful meeting? And then lastly, what did I control?

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Reflect on something you handled intentionally, your attitude, how you reacted to stress, or the time you spent on what mattered most. At the end of the week, look back at your entries. Identify patterns. What consistently brings you joy? Where did you feel most in control? How can you prioritize these wins moving forward?

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By intentionally tracking joy and control, you'll reframe your focus and start noticing opportunities for happiness in your everyday life, even in the chaos. The second element in your playbook is how to feed your curiosity, turning what if into why not.

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Curiosity was Branson's superpower, whether it was breaking into the record industry, starting an airline, or launching a hot air balloon across the Atlantic. His success came from a willingness to ask, what if I tried this, and why not me? So how can you do it? First, you need to take one small risk. Try something new, something that makes you just a little uncomfortable.

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Start that project you've been overthinking. Explore a hobby without worrying about being good at it. Next, ask better questions. When faced with a problem, replace why me with what can I learn from this or what's the opportunity here? And then lastly, make time for curiosity. Build space in your life to explore. Read books, listen to podcasts, or meet people outside your usual circles.

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Curiosity doesn't spark itself. You need to feed it. The important thing here that I want you to remember is that curiosity doesn't require certainty. It thrives on possibilities. Lean into the unknown and you'll discover opportunities you didn't even know existed. So I'm going to give you an exercise to do. Let's call it the curiosity experiment list.

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We talked about breaking barriers, setting bold goals, and the mindset it takes to pursue them. Then on Thursday, I had a fascinating conversation with Caroline Adams Miller, a leading expert on grit and goal setting. Caroline shared practical insights about how to set the kind of goals that stretch you, challenge you, and ultimately help you achieve lasting success.

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The objective here is to push yourself to make small, curiosity-driven risks and explore ideas, hobbies, or challenges without overthinking outcomes. So let's go through the steps. The first one is to create your why not list. I want you to write down five to ten small things you've been curious about but haven't pursued. Examples might include trying a new hobby like painting, yoga, or coding.

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Starting a side project or passion initiative you've been postponing. Taking a class, listening to a new podcast, or reading a book on a topic that you know nothing about. It could be having a conversation with someone outside your usual circles or pitching that idea at work you've been hesitant to share. The next step is to set a timeline. Commit to trying one to two items on your list.

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Keep it low pressure. This isn't about being good. It's about being curious. Then document the experience. After each experiment, reflect on these three prompts. What did I learn? How did it feel to try this? What new possibilities opened up? Then you rinse and repeat. Add to your list regularly and keep exploring. Let one why not inspire the next. And here's the outcome.

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By taking small, curiosity-driven risks, you'll train yourself to embrace uncertainty, enjoy discovery, and unlock opportunities that you've never expected. And now let's talk about the last element of your playbook, anchoring yourself in purpose, which is knowing your why. Purpose isn't about chasing big, lofty ideas. It's about connecting what you do to what matters.

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Branson didn't build Virgin just to make money. He built it to solve problems, to challenge norms, and to create something exciting. Purpose gave his risks meaning and his failures direction. So how can you do it? First, define what matters to you. Ask yourself, what kind of impact do I want to have? What values guide me? What problems excite me to solve?

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The important thing here to understand is that purpose doesn't have to be grand. It just has to resonate. Second, connect your tasks to meaning. Even the mundane can have purpose. Writing a report, it's not just a task, it's an opportunity to share an idea. Helping a coworker, it's not just about work, it's about connection. And then third, reframe failure as progress.

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Purpose allows you to see setbacks not as dead ends, but as lessons. Keep your eye in the bigger picture and ask, what can this teach me? Purpose is what gets you up in the morning and keeps you going when the path gets tough. It transforms challenges into stepping stones and gives every effort a reason to matter. So here's an exercise on how you can anchor yourself in purpose.

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We're going to call it the purpose map. The objective here is to clarify what matters most to you and connect your daily tasks to a greater sense of meaning. So let's go through the steps. First, define your values. Write down three to five core values that guide you. Examples could be growth, creativity, family, connection, impact. Second, identify your why.

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Ask yourself, what kind of impact do I want to have? What problems excite me to solve? What activities make me feel fulfilled and aligned? Write a short statement of your purpose in one to two sentences. For example, I want to create work that inspires others to think differently and take action. Then third, connect tasks to purpose.

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If you've ever wondered how to move from setting goals to actually achieving them, that episode is one you'll want to bookmark. If you've missed either of those episodes, I highly recommend you go back and give them a listen. They're filled with insights that perfectly complement what we're talking about today. For anyone new to the show, I've got a shortcut for you.

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For the next week, before starting any task, pause and ask yourself, how does this align with my values? How can this contribute to my bigger why? For example, writing a report isn't just about meeting a deadline. It's about sharing ideas that add value. Answering emails isn't just busy work. It's about building trust and connection. Fourth, reframe setbacks.

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When you encounter failure or frustration, write down, what's the lesson here? How did this challenge help me grow or move closer to my purpose? And then fifth, reflect weekly. At the end of the week, review your tasks and ask, did I stay aligned with my purpose? What can I adjust next week to live more intentionally?

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The outcome here is by identifying your why and connecting it to everyday actions, you'll transform even mundane tasks into meaningful contributions, fueling resilience, focus, and satisfaction. Each exercise is about progress, not perfection. Start small, stay consistent, and let joy, curiosity, and purpose guide your actions.

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Over time, these habits will rewire how you approach challenges, opportunities, and success, just like Richard Branson. Now, take one step, choose an exercise, and start today. So wrapping up, if there's one thing Ranson's life teaches us, it's this. Success doesn't come from waiting for the perfect moment, the perfect plan, or the perfect circumstances.

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It comes from the mindset you choose every single day. Ranson's story isn't about having all the answers or avoiding failure. It's about leaning into life with a sense of joy, following your curiosity wherever it leads, and anchoring yourself to a purpose that matters.

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It's about building habits that allow you to see setbacks as stepping stones, challenges as opportunities, and progress as the real victory. And the best part? You don't need to start a global empire or fly a hot air balloon across the Atlantic to follow his playbook. You just need to redefine joy by focusing on what you can control and celebrate the small wins.

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By feeding your curiosity, take risks, ask questions, and explore without overthinking. And anchor yourself in purpose. Find your why and let it give meaning to your daily actions. Happiness isn't a reward waiting at the finish line. It's the fuel that gets you there. It's the thing that makes success not just possible, but worth it. So what's next? Take one step today.

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Choose to see joy in the process. Ask why not when you're tempted to play it safe. Connect your actions to something bigger than yourself. Because if Richard Branson could start from an unassuming English village, armed with nothing but optimism, curiosity, and resilience, then why not you? The choice is yours. Will you lean into life fully, or will you wait for happiness to just happen?

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As Branson's story shows us, the answer is simple. Stop waiting. Start choosing. And when you do, you might just find that success starts to follow. So go ahead. Take the leap. Build your playbook. Why not start now? If today's episode resonated with you, please take a moment to leave a five-star rating and review.

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Dr. George's mission to tackle poverty, inequality, and injustice is a masterclass in purpose-driven leadership and creating lasting impact. You won't want to miss this inspiring conversation.

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Now let's talk about today's episode. If you've ever sat around wondering what it takes to be successful, you've probably thought about the usual suspects. Hard work. Intelligence. Strategy. Maybe even luck. And sure, those things matter. But there's a sneaky little factor that often gets left out of the equation. Happiness.

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yeah i know the self-help world has shoved just be happy down our throats so much that it's tempting to roll your eyes but hang tight because it's possible we've been flipping the script all wrong success doesn't create happiness happiness fuels success sounds a bit backwards right we've been conditioned to think that life works like this hustle like your hair is on fire achieve big important goals voila

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Happiness will reward you like some celestial participation trophy. But science and experience suggests otherwise. Some of the most accomplished people don't see happiness as a reward. They see it as a prerequisite, a driver, an edge. Richard Branson, for example. The guy practically turns work into a playground. Founding the Virgin Group was never just about building a business empire.

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It's about how you show up every day and how you approach life's challenges. Stick around because by the end, you just might rethink the way you define success. Welcome to Passion Struck. Hi, I'm your host, John R. Miles. And on the show, we decipher the secrets, tips, and guidance of the world's most inspiring people and turn their wisdom into practical advice for you and those around you.

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It was about living life fully, joyfully, and sometimes ridiculously. Branson launched Virgin Atlantic not just to disrupt airlines, but because it excited him. He attempted to break records in speedboats and hot air balloons, not to prove anything, but because, well, why the hell not? Life for Branson isn't just a series of achievements, it's a series of adventures. And here's the kicker.

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Even when he failed, and he failed a lot, crash landings, business losses, mechanical disasters, He maintained a radical sense of optimism. He chose to laugh when he could have quit. He chose to enjoy the chaos. And that joy, that relentless enthusiasm became his competitive advantage. So instead of asking, how do I become successful so I can be happy? Maybe the better question is this.

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How do I stay happy so I can become successful? counterintuitive, sure, but also incredibly powerful. In this episode, we're going to unpack the science of why happiness isn't just good for you, it's good for business, achievement, and resilience.

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How Branson's joyful outlook became a cornerstone of his success, practical ways you can engineer happiness into your life, because it's not all sunshine and hot air balloons, and joy doesn't happen by accident. But before we dive in, let's clarify something important. What the heck do we actually mean when we say happiness? Is it bliss? Satisfaction? Purpose? Let's start there.

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Thank you for choosing PassionStruck and choosing me to be your host and guide on your journey to creating an intentional life. Now, let that journey begin. Before we start thinking about happiness as some magic fuel for success, we need to get clear on what it actually is. But let's face it, happiness is one of those words that gets thrown around like confetti at a wedding.

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Nice to look at, but kind of a mess when you try to clean it up. So let's get this straight. Happiness isn't just about feeling good all the time. It's not sipping margaritas on a beach while your problems politely disappear. That's not happiness. That's a vacation, and a temporary one at that. Real happiness is more like a combination of three things. First, pleasure.

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Those bursts of joy that make life fun. A great meal. A solid laugh. A killer concert, which I love. These moments are important, but fleeting. Then there's engagement. The state of being so absorbed in something that you forget what time it is. You're focused. You're in flow. You're alive. Whether you're writing, playing basketball, or geeking out on a project.

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This is where you feel connected to what you're doing. And then there's meaning, the big one. It's the sense that your life, your work, and your time matter. It's about contributing to something larger than yourself, whether it's your family, a cause, or your own personal vision of what success looks like. When psychologists talk about happiness, they're not talking about one fleeting emotion.

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They're talking about these three layers working together like gears in a well-oiled machine. When you have pleasure, engagement, and meaning, you've got the kind of happiness that doesn't just feel good. It fuels you. It keeps you going when things get tough. Now here's the twist. This kind of happiness isn't just a nice-to-have. performance enhancer.

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Shawn Achor calls this the happiness advantage. Studies show that happier people aren't just more fun to be around. They're more productive, creative, and resilient. Their brains perform better. Their relationships are stronger. They handle stress like pros. In short, happiness makes you better at everything. Think about it this way.

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When you're happy, when you're engaged, when you're connected, when you're excited about life, you show up differently. You make better decisions. You take smarter risks. You bounce back faster from failure. And that's exactly what you need to succeed. So the next time you're tempted to put off happiness until after you've hit some arbitrary goal, remember this. Happiness isn't the finish line.

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Our mission is to help you unlock the power of intentionality so that you can become the best version of yourself. If you're new to the show, I offer advice and answer listener questions on Fridays. We have long-form interviews the rest of the week with guests ranging from astronauts to authors, CEOs, creators, innovators, scientists, military leaders, visionaries, and athletes.

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It's the fuel. The challenge, of course. is figuring out how to create this kind of happiness in your own life. Because let's be honest, it's not always easy to choose joy when your boss is a jerk, your deadlines are breathing down your neck, and you're two days deep into existential dread. So how do you make it real? How do you build happiness that lasts?

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Not the fleeting, surface-level kind, but the deep, sustainable kind that actually drives you forward. The answer isn't about ignoring the tough stuff. It's about building habits that prioritize joy, curiosity, and purpose. The same tools that have shaped some of the world's most resilient and accomplished people. If there's one person who embodies this mindset, it's Richard Branson.

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If his life teaches us anything, it's that joy, curiosity, and purpose aren't fluffy concepts. They're the foundations of a life worth living. They're not something you wait for. They're something you cultivate. And Branson started building them early, shaped by experiences that most of us would call unconventional, even extreme.

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Richard Branson didn't stumble into resilience and optimism by accident. His story starts in the English countryside, where his childhood was a crash course in mindset. His mother, Eve, was relentless in teaching him independence and resilience, sometimes through eyebrow-raising methods. Take this story. One day, she drove him miles away from home and told him to find his way back.

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Not exactly helicopter parenting, but Branson's mother understood something critical. Confidence comes from struggle. Branson wasn't born with a silver spoon or a golden ticket. He was born with dyslexia, a challenge that made words and numbers feel like enemies. School became an uphill battle, and in any other household, he might have been labeled as a failure.

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Instead, his parents flipped the script. They focused on what he could do, not what he couldn't. That mindset, shifting attention from limitations to opportunities, became a cornerstone of his life. Branson threw himself into sports with an infectious enthusiasm. He didn't just play, he excelled. Rugby, football, cricket. He captained all the teams. Then came the long jump.

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He'd never attempted it before, but on a whim, at age 10, he gave it a shot. Not only did he succeed, but he broke the school record. This wasn't about the record itself. It was about something bigger. The joy of trying.

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the thrill of discovering what's possible when you lean in give it a go and stop worrying about failure branson's success in sports wasn't just about competition it was about curiosity he approached new challenges with the simple question why not where others might hesitate afraid of looking foolish or failing Branson leaned in. That curiosity didn't stop on the field.

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It carried over into the rest of his life. School didn't work for him, but that didn't stop him from looking for other ways to thrive. Branson developed an insatiable interest in the world outside the classroom, people, problems, possibilities. As he grew older, that sense of curiosity led to his first entrepreneurial ventures.

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While his dyslexia made reading and organizing difficult, it also sharpened his ability to think differently. He had no interest in playing by the rules of the system. He wanted to find ways to work around them. And this started a pattern. He started seeing a problem where others saw no opportunity. He began asking, why not me, when others didn't dare.

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And he started taking action, even when the outcome was uncertain. Curiosity gave him an edge. It freed him from the trap of perfectionism and let him explore without the weight of expectation. Branson's early life was not a fairy tale. The world didn't hand him success. It handed him obstacles. Dyslexia could have been a reason to quit.

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Poor grades could have been proof that he wasn't smart enough. And later, his early ventures, like his first mail-order record business, were littered with setbacks. But here's the thing. Branson never let failure define him. Why? Because he had a clear sense of purpose. Even as a teenager, he was focused on creating, building, and solving problems that mattered to him.

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When his record business struggled, he didn't see failure as the end. He saw it as a lesson. Each setback fueled his next attempt. Every obstacle became a stepping stone towards something better. Branson wasn't just chasing money or status. He was chasing the process. He believed in the work he was doing, and that belief gave him the resilience to keep going when most people would have quit.

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Now, let's go out there and become passion struck. Welcome back, everyone, to another Momentum Friday in episode 549. I'm thrilled to have you here. Whether you're a longtime listener or brand new to the show, this is where we challenge conventional thinking and explore what it means to live with intention, purpose, and impact.

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Purpose was his anchor. It allowed him to weather failures because he wasn't tied to short-term results. He was focused on the bigger picture, building something meaningful, solving problems creatively, and living life on his own terms. So this leads to the science of happiness, the key to Branson's success.

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Branson's story perfectly aligns with the principles outlined in Shawn Achor's The Happiness Advantage. Branson exemplified how happiness, optimism, and resilience could serve as powerful tools for success, even in the face of repeated setbacks. Rather than viewing happiness as a result of his achievements, he cultivated it as a driving force.

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Studies like Akers Harvard Research and the work of Laura King, Sonja Libomirsky, and Ed Diener underscore the transformative power of positive emotions. Just as Branson used his joy, gratitude, and optimism to fuel his entrepreneurial spirit, these studies reveal that happiness isn't merely a byproduct of success, it's a precursor to it.

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Positive emotions spark creativity, resilience, and productivity, allowing individuals to thrive in the face of challenges, just as Branson did. Richard Branson's formative years were a masterclass in what it means to live fully, to find joy in what you can do, to follow your curiosity, and to stay anchored in a sense of purpose. He could have been weighed down by his dyslexia.

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He could have avoided risks out of fear of failure. Instead, he leaned into the discomfort, asked why not when others said no, and found meaning in the process of growth. So what does this mean for you? It means stop focusing on what you can't do. Start finding joy in what you can. Letting curiosity lead you. Try things. Explore ideas. Take chances. Stay anchored in purpose.

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Find what matters to you and let that guide your actions. Branson's story isn't about perfection or innate brilliance. It's about mindset. It's about habits. It's about choosing joy, curiosity, and purpose as a way of life. And if he could do it, starting from a small English town with no special advantages, why not you.

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In the next section, I'll take these principles and break them down into practical, actionable habits you can start building today. Because happiness doesn't just happen, it's something you choose. So now that we've explored how Richard Branson turned joy, curiosity, and purpose into a way of life, the question becomes, how do you do the same?

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Because let's face it, most of us aren't being dropped miles from home as resilience training. and we don't wake up with Branson's instinct to say, why not, when everyone else is saying, why bother? The good news, you don't need extreme experiences or larger-than-life adventures to cultivate these habits.

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You just need to take small, deliberate steps, steps that make joy, curiosity, and purpose a regular part of your everyday life. Here's how you can start building your own playbook. First, redefine joy by focusing on what you can control. Happiness doesn't come from waiting for the stars to align. It comes from finding joy in what's already within your grasp.

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And today's episode dives into one of the most inspiring examples of all, the legendary Richard Branson. But before we dive in, let's talk about this week's incredible episodes. On Tuesday, I sat down with Miss America Madison Marsh, an Air Force pilot, humanitarian, and an exceptional example of what it looks like to chase audacious dreams with discipline and grace.

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Branson didn't dwell on his dyslexia or poor grades. He found joy in sports, in competition, and in every small victory he could create for himself. So how can you do it? First, identify what energizes you. What activities make you feel alive? It doesn't have to be groundbreaking. Maybe it's painting, cooking, or problem solving at work. Make time for those things daily, even in small doses.

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Second, find wins in the process. Shift your focus from outcomes to effort. Whether you're running a business, writing a report, or learning something new, celebrate progress, not just perfection. Third, control the controllables. You can't change your boss, your deadlines, or traffic jams, but you can control your attitude, actions, and where you direct your attention. Prioritize those.

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The trick isn't to avoid challenges, it's to approach them with a mindset that allows you to find moments of joy, even in the chaos. So I'm going to give you an exercise. Let's call it the Daily Wins Journal. The objective here is to train your mind to notice and celebrate small victories, progress, and the things that you can control, bringing intentional joy to your day.

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So let's go through the steps. The first thing you're going to do is set up a journal. Create a simple log using a physical notebook or digital note with three sections. What energized me today? What small wins did I celebrate? And what did I control or improve? Then, at the end of each day, spend five to ten minutes writing answers to each section. What energized me?