Alex Cooper
Appearances
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
i'd love that for you cherry's like go and be gone and like do your thing because i collect um movie props too so i've got like all of that there what is your favorite movie prop that you have
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Is there anything out there that you're like, I've got my eye on this?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Now I got to watch it. No spoilers. Okay, so we're going for the Batman costume.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Oh, because you want to make sure you get it?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Can you give me a ballpark of how much you're willing to spend?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
And was that where you were like running on top of the bar singing?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
yeah it's on my list but as soon as i had kids there were certain films that i was planning on seeing i was like i'll just wait to watch them with my kids but yeah i've never never seen the yeah get ready it's it's a great one but look at you you're like ashamed i'm kind of ashamed about it yeah you're allowed to say it no one can come for you you you are a movie person you've been busy you're watching other things that hasn't been top priority um does your pub have a name
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
That is the, like for women around the world listening, everyone's like, yeah, he's a really great guy. Because do you know how many men and their like toxic masculinity can't handle the concept of like, what do you mean you're not going to take my last name? Or what do you mean you're not?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
No, I think that's beautiful. Sorry, I'm obsessed with this pub idea. Can you explain to me how many people, like, are you throwing ragers in this thing?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Wait, you're not singing Christmas carols all year round. Just you're talking about... At Christmas, yeah. Okay. I know you're going to say no every week. We're doing Christmas. Or are you?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
I don't think it sounds weird at all. I actually, it's refreshing to hear you're like in a beautiful way. Not that you can't complain about it, but you're like, I'm just going to take matters into my own hands. And I now have the resources and the funds that I'm going to like build this thing so that I can like go to my pub and I can go to the chapel.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Post Malone is like one of those people that when you're in a room with him, even if you're in a room with him for like a couple minutes, you're immediately like, I need 19 more hours with you. This is enough.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
That's fun, though, that you're at a place in your career where you're even interested in doing those type of things. Because I feel like the bigger people get, they're like, no, I don't need to go do random shit like that.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
He is. What is the most embarrassing thing you can recall of just like... A drunken night, whether you're with your friends or you're out.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
What was the reaction of the people standing at the front desk?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
just the thought of also like you walking down and 4am those people are probably like so not paying attention to what's going on they're like half asleep and then just like Ed Sheeran walks into the lobby naked holding a napkin yeah yeah just Did you wake up in the morning and fully comprehend what you did? Or did you go back to bed easily?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure. So casual. Everyone's done that, right? No.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Every time you're on the road, you're like, put something on my body.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
I have the worst sleeps. And even if you have like one drink, it still is affecting you. Okay. Maybe, maybe that's in my future. We'll see.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
I do want to know, what do you think is the biggest misconception about you?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Do you think you handle being in the public eye well?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
I think that makes sense. I think it's healthy for you to have like a good balance.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Like you're talking about being like, I can go work nine to three and then I go home and I'm like with my daughters and my wife and I'm having like a pretty normal life and then I'm going to the pub in my backyard and then we're going to the lake and then we're going to the chapel and it was a full day and it was like, but I think you have to create that balance.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
world for yourself because you're right if you do just keep working then you are just like ed sheeran where people are thinking you're just like this pop star and you're mega famous and you're so rich and then it gets to people's heads and it's like you need to have some semblance of normalcy and honestly cherry is the biggest grounding force like anytime that anything is a little bit like a little bit too hollywood she's like bro
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
So it's nice having... A little mix up. We're switching it up.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
She's like, the chapel and the pub are enough. Are you good at bowling?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
You should do something with, like, movies. I didn't realize you were this into movies.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
But no one knows it's you. What's your username?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Because as a moviegoer, you're like, oh, my God, like they're basing something on me. But then that character is like.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Kind of fucking crazy. Okay. Would your username, would we be able to find you?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Okay, Azizam, I want to get lost in your ocean and drown. This obviously is a lyric from your new single. What are you talking about, Ed?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Well, it's funny because when I was listening to it, it's awesome. But I like hear it the way that you sing it. Yeah. Of like, well, I'm not even going to fucking try. But like how you kind of leave like a pause where you like. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Moving on. That was embarrassing.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Ed Sheeran, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Hey. Okay, wait. I was going to ask you. A musician never is sitting in the seat at 9 a.m. Like, I've never had a musician. Really? Is that the coffee?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Do you sing to them? Like, do they understand?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
You're going to be singing it up. Your kids are in heaven over there. They're lucky. That's nice to have. Right now, we have a single out. Is there more coming?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
How is this music different than everything you've put out before, or is it?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
It's really interesting to hear you talk about like the way that you're approaching projects, albums essentially. But there are projects in your brain of like this one was like more intense. So now this needs to feel more fun. And like I can feel that energy from you. Okay, Ed, last question. What do you want your legacy in music to be?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
No, but now I'm going to Google it. Where I can't sing. What?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Wait, you can't sing? You couldn't sing? Pull it up.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Wait, you sound like little baby Ed. Wait, that's cute.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
and then that is you for life you find one thing you work really hard at it then that is your career and i think that that i would love for my legacy to be i think that is so beautiful and i appreciate you bringing up the concept of like kids looking at celebrities and musicians and actors and anyone in the arts like it seems like this far away concept and
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
you have made it feel like achievable in a way that can be actually like everyday motivating for a person being like, I'm one step away from my gorgeous cover going on YouTube and sounding like Ed and then look where you are.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Well, I... Yes. And I relate a lot to that of not having a plan B and then people, whether it was like making fun of you for it or you feeling like, why am I not doing a traditional? Like I remember being in college and all the girls were taking courses that were like finance and all that. And I was like in the film school and everyone was like, where is that going to get you?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
And a lot of times I was like, I don't know. But those feelings are
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
That's so crazy. You can never let them forget. I'm like, you little fuckers never came to my shows in the beginning. Fuck you.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
No, that is such a beautiful... message to leave this on because I can imagine there's so many people watching this right now that are either going to quit the job because they're not making enough and they hate it and they're like, okay, I'm just going to not pursue it anymore and I'll just go do what my parents had wanted me to do.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Or there's someone that is doing something in this moment that people are making fun of them for or they feel let down and they feel like there's no way to actually get to what they want. This is like...
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Go for your passion and make it your job if you can. Ed, this has been so fun. I wish I could talk to you for like 10 more hours because I feel like we could do one entire podcast on just movies in general.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
So maybe you'll do it like your later phase of life.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
3.30. Oh, wow. So you could get like, do you get a little like loopy? Like, are you going to get like weird funny? Are you going to like fall asleep on me?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Have you ever been asked to do the Super Bowl?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
As you're talking, I'm trying to picture it. What if it's like a spotlight thing?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
don't get it twisted i really appreciate the self-awareness like most people would be like call me whenever and put me in you're like you know i don't know if i've got that side of the things where i'm like going out and outfit changes i think i could nail one song i think i could if someone brings me on i think i could do it really well for one song but i can't i
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
and also like you saying like and i come out and i'm singing like 18 like everyone just starts sobbing in the audience and it's like getting in their feels and then they just go and get a beer this is so comfy here are you isn't this cozy comfy i wanted you to feel like you can really like you could take off your shoes you don't have to take off your shoes but some people take off the very clean okay don't take off your shoes keep your shoes on um ranch dressing
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Oh my God, I thought you said a... A balsamic. No, I thought you said a balsac. No, I thought you said a balsamon. Right. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so you're into your balsamic vinaigrette.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
we're in boston last night yeah that is one of my favorite places ever i went to college there so boston to me is like boston university amazing i spent many nights on bar floors and club floors and where are you originally from pennsylvania amazing and then i went to school in boston and i remember being in boston and be like this is the greatest fucking place these bars are epic the people are epic like everyone just goes so fucking hard it definitely feels european
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Because they're pumping them with all that shit and then we're like eating it and acting like nothing's wrong.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Okay, the best American fast food chain in your opinion?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
You don't think so? I've never had their fries.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
That is like so high low. You're like eating KFC and then you're like drinking your nice wine. You're like, this is life. Okay. How do we feel about Disneyland?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
I think it's, there is no one that's like, that was fine. It's either like, or I'm getting married there.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
So you would rather someone be like, fuck Ed Sheeran rather than be like, he's all right.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Has anyone ever in the beginning days of your career tried to convince you like, wait, let's dress like this and cut your hair like this and do this?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
What would that have looked like? What would we have done, Ed?
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Yes, I do remember the like Tumblr era photos of you. And those were cool. I liked that side. But then I get what you're saying. Like, I couldn't have seen you in like a purple leather get up with like a backwards hat. And yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's good that you stayed.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Oh, my God. You're going to come out at the Super Bowl. You're going to have a full leather getup. And then the year after, you're going to go right to country music and you're going to wear a cowboy hat for the rest of your career.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Okay. Can we talk about your home in England? You built a pub in your garden.
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Ed Sheeran: You Either Love Me or Hate Me
Explain how, why, what was the inspiration?
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Like, I think there were a couple of times when we both got the same audition or, but usually one of us would come to the other and be like, I'm really not ready for this. You should just go out for this. And I'm just going to pass.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I think our ages, our looks, our energy. But we did get asked sometimes to go to the same audition. And I think some of that was just because of like... I don't know, some parts kind of would overlap. Where it's like, you know, 22 to 25 and we're like, well, we're in that age range.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah. She's like, bye AJ. Well, like really we moved for like, to be closer to my mom. My mom lives out in San Yanez. So we were like, okay, if we're closer to her, that will help with, you know, just like childcare or whatever. And then having more space. Cause the house that we live in and that we lived in, in the Canyon that we ended up renting out is,
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah, it would just be like, we both liked him and both of us failed. Or like, I remember, this is funny that you asked this, we were making a record in New York, one that never ended up coming out. And, um, we, we have 10 of those. Yeah. No, just one. You're like one day, maybe they'll come out. Yeah. Two.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Um, and we were, we were feeling very cool that you were like, you know, living in New York for like a month, no parents, you know, I don't know. At this point we were like 20, one and 22 and 20, right? And every night we were really obsessed with wanting to go out to all of these restaurants in New York.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
We're like, sometimes it didn't even make sense where it's like, girl, that's way on the other side of town. All right, you guys are from Los Angeles and you don't know shit. So we would be like, okay, we're going to catch or whatever. And we went to this one restaurant called Revel. I don't know why I remember that. I don't know if it's even still around.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
um and there was a cute guy that was our waiter and i left my number for him on the bill and i told aj and she was like i was pissed and she left the restaurant i was like he was cute and she's like i know i left my number and i was like what like you mean i could have and i didn't like and almost like judging me that i had done that you know and like put my like put my neck out so dumb but obviously this guy never texted so
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah. No, no. No, there's been a couple like close calls. Yeah. Where was like, I liked that guy kind of. And then it was like, oh, no, like. AJ and him are kind of dating and then it would be like over after six months.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
There's never been an actual crossover. No. Thank God. I mean, that would be kind of weird. We're so enmeshed in each other's lives already. I know.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
is like a super cool pad but it's more like it's for a couple it's not really for a kid so we we ended up renting a place that just had more space like so we kind of were just like we'll see but it's only an hour and a half I visit like every weekend yes but would you ever move I love Santa Barbara okay you're happy in Santa Barbara I'd move there in a second okay okay okay that makes me feel good I really would I'm not ready yet
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah, you're right. She did one time help, like literally held my hand while I broke up with a guy over the phone.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
She was like, do you remember that? It was in Calabasas. You were like, you can do it.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
It doesn't exist. Okay, tell me though. I think we just were like, what if there was a guy that was such a, like, I mean, at this point we were 18 and,
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
maybe younger maybe 17 and 15 writing this song which we had but like very little at this point we had probably each had you would have probably two boyfriends I had barely had one boyfriend because I was way behind she was behind behind her okay so like I'm like she was behind she was behind so still a lot of the songs were like
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
living in a dream world of what we thought a relationship was like because we were still really young. So to us, it was like, what if this guy was like so terrible that he didn't call you on your birthday and that you begged him to get your stuff back and he like wouldn't give it back and then you just had to deliver it in a box at your house.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
But what's funny though is that we couldn't drive. I do remember we were young enough that we weren't driving.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
stop yeah and it was like it was and we were young so it was like obviously it hits hard no matter what age you are when you feel like wow I've been completely but this was like a friendship this was like a friendship a girl friendship that was was basically the breakup it wasn't like the guy if that makes sense it was like we had found out some stuff about her that made us feel like we didn't really know who she was and we have been friends with her for like a long time and that was truly the the worst breakup and it was a girlfriend break yeah that
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
and then we mended like we're okay now and you did yeah like if we see her at a event or whatever we like we'll DM and stuff but we don't like hang actively which is kind of sad because it was a big part of our childhood but like that is so gross that guy was like didn't even matter right it's just the concept of what happened with the friendship that's always the worst when like
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
That is good. I know. That's beautiful. That's good. That's good. I don't know. I don't know what that says. Let's all clap for that. No trauma. Yeah. No trauma. I'm trying to think of. Hmm. I mean, I've had guys – I've had more guys probably break up with me than me break up with them. Okay. So I've been broken up with probably quite a bit.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I mean, I feel like I was blindsided many times. Yeah. Not many, but yeah. But a lot of them. It was like, you know, I was being broken up with because this person was like a professional athlete and was like, I need to –
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
work on my job and like you're a distraction I'm like I need to work on my tour bus right now you're a distraction I need to work on my job yeah I know wait ridiculous do you know where you're sitting that is the best direct quote I've ever heard a professional athlete telling you I have to work on my job we you know that I talk a lot about that yes yes we how long did you date it wasn't that long but it was very like um
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I think they were swapped when we were younger. Oh, really? Yeah, that's a good point. I was very much kind of younger sister and she was like older sister. And then it switched. Like we always joke how when I was young, I was very shy. Really shy. And I would have her just kind of, you were like my translator.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
That was like a solid year. Maybe, maybe a little. I don't even know. What sport?
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I remember being really heartbroken by that. Now I'm looking back on it being like.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Honestly, like having a couple of really solid guy friends was really helpful. Like I would talk to them about this and they'd be like, this guy's a total loser. Like, absolutely not. And, you know, of course you could say, well, of course you're saying that. They want to get with you. But these were, like, truly platonic. Even if they do, okay. Even if they do, it's nice to know you guys suck.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
But they were platonic relationships that were really, like, I would be on the phone, like, talking to Dan. Yeah, I knew you were going to say him. And be like, can you believe this? And he'd be like, this is an absolute sign that this guy is not right for you. And, like, he was only in it because he just wanted to, like... sleep with you and be done and over the next, you know.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I've had more, if I'm being honest, I've had a couple die outs, not conversations, where it's just kind of like you kind of stop texting and then it's like.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah. And then it's like you kind of are like, we both know this isn't right.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Sometimes it's not like this big, huge fight. Sometimes it's like... I'm seeing some things about your lifestyle that doesn't gel with mine or that, you know, I don't know. You weren't there for me in these moments that I needed you. And it's kind of like showing your true colors. And that's okay. We just part our own ways. And that's like sometimes that's part of just growing up and being a girl.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And it was like, literally I would speak for her. She like knew it was very strange.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I think I would. I'm the other woman. I'm so sorry. I didn't know. Well, what's funny is that we've seen one of our girlfriends, our close girlfriends do that. And I, it was like, I was kind of being like, don't do this. This is cringe. Like, why is this such a huge message? You know? I don't know if she did it right. She didn't do it right. I think there's a way you can.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And then I think it's swapped to being like, okay, now you don't translate for me, but yeah. Well, Girl, you never did.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I mean, I've said that to her face. Like, you didn't nail this. Too long.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah, no, no, no. And also then that girl is like, yeah, right. Sure, honey. You know, and then making her look like she's crazy when she actually is telling the truth.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
That's really hard. That's really hard. That's never happened. Thank God. Has that ever happened to you? Maybe not husband.
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And I kind of stayed out of it. Because I just didn't know. Did it dissolve on its own with you staying out of it?
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Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
That's a good point. It bleeds into every other moment in your life.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I think it depends on maybe who's the OG friend. Is it her or is it the guy? I don't know.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I mean, if you met at the same time. It's hard. It's so hard. I'd like to think I'd have the courage to say something or to be like, I don't know, like, is everything okay?
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
What do I do? Totally. We'd rehearse it. I'd hold her hand while she says the conversation or we would go in person and I'd hold her hand in person.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Well, not you. Me. Not me. Because I got my first gig was still the future.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Did he roll with it? He completely rolled with it. Wow. Saw him later that night. Ooh, but that says even more.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I would be more likely for sure to do something like that. Yeah. 100% it would be Allie more. You would. Way over me. Like I'm actually surprised that hasn't happened. But it hasn't. Once or twice.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Clumsy texter, clumsy emailer. Where she's like, hello, you're on the wrong group chat. And it's like, oh shit.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
You're in the wrong, you're on the wrong track here.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah. So like I didn't even have like I mean, I knew the basics of like this is a mark and stuff, but I learned like everything on that set.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah. I mean, with our people now. With our guys now. I don't think in the past. Have we ever really done that in the past? I'm trying to think.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah. Oh, it's been like three wheeling where it's like two people on a date and then I'm like, hey, I'm here hanging with you having lunch, you know, or vice versa. That's true.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Um. I don't know. I just got a vibe like this guy is just different. Like he's really deep. He's very mature. He's just like tapped into something. Where did you guys meet? We met on a set. He was the DP and I was the like lead actor in this like really tiny little indie. And I don't know, like I just picked up this energy from him that
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Um, like just instantly I was kind of like, this guy is like, I'm like safe with this guy. Like I can really be myself around him and he's like artistic and he really cares about this project and how he's talking about it and how he is on set. He's has very much like a leadership role. kind of energy, even though he was very young and it was the first movie that he was a DP on.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
So I don't know, it was just like, it was a meant to be thing. And at the time, I was seeing a guy that I was in, I call it like a kept relationship.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
he was like i couldn't get out it was just like he was a guy who was older than me that i had like that i had lost my virginity too to be completely honest and i was like girl we gotta get rid of and i was like i'm good like it's it's all good like this is a sweet memory and moment but like we're we're done you did break up and he and he was like i made you a woman like bad he said that he did he is cringe no it's cringe really we know how long were you together with him
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Uh, like a year, year and a, like a year and a half. Yeah. I mean, I know, I know. Well, you had an okay friendship with him in the beginning. In the beginning. It's someone that should have always been like a guy friend. Yes. Never should have dated. A hundred percent.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I know it's gross. But the fact that I was like kind of chill, like almost kind of like a bro, like this is nice. Like,
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
We're all, we're all staying in these cabins at the base of the mountain. So like after we would wrap, we all would eat dinner together and hang out and like run lines or whatever. And I just remember like essentially like talking shit about him to people being like, I don't know. I'm like, I'm in this relationship, but like I got to get out of it. Like, you know, at this time it was like, what?
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
It was like November, beginning of November. So I was probably thinking like, you know, I'm going to try to wrap this up and be on my way. But I knew that I had, I had agreed to do a movie that he was directing that was next. It was the next film. So I had to do this next movie with him as the director. And I broke up, I broke up with him at the beginning of the movie.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I was so, but then had to be in it, but had to be in it directed by him. Yeah. And he would be kind of trying to be like, no, like we can make this work. And I was like, we're done. I really don't want to do this. You're a,
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
He would always be like, no, that's normal. Like there'd be like ups and downs. Like sometimes like you'll be in and out of love. I'm like, no, no.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah. And I feel like when the music started happening on the channel and that was happening simultaneously with Phil, I think that's when we were like, oh, this is really like clicking with people. And I do remember going to, I don't know, I think... were we with Hollywood Records at the time? I don't know. I don't think so.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And I don't know how. Wait, you were there to witness it. I was there. You said that Stephen handled it as.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
But dads can say some really, really whack stuff. You guys, it's unwell.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And we needed somebody in our video or take me to be a victim in our, in our video. Cause we were playing vampires and you were like, can we kill you in a video? He should be in the video. Like let's have him. Yeah.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
It was season two. But I think season one of Fill the Future had been out. So no, we weren't signed yet with Hollywood. But for whatever reason, we were invited to Hilary Duff's concert at, I think, the Forum or something. And I think you were with me. And I got mobbed at this concert. And I was like,
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I met him at the festival. Yeah, I think you did. Was there like a panel or something together? I think, yeah, yeah.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And then we did the video shoot and he was like super down. And then we had a couple girlfriends come and also be victims. And they were like down to just kind of like hang out for the day.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah. I think maybe when AJ was younger, I was more protective or more like, who is this guy? Like, what are you after? Are you actually a loser? And you're just like hiding it really well. Yep. But I feel like I've always been on like good terms with most of the guys that you've dated.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Like kind of a friendly banter. You maybe not as much where you've been like friends with my exes.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
If I'm going to speak for AJ, I think that... Oh. Oh. No, that's fine.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
It's like maybe a bad habit. But I think that AJ, as the little sister vibes, was more... like heartbroken by it.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And took it really bad. What age did they get divorced?
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
So like in a way you're old enough to know exactly what happened, all the details. Like I think there's a positive and a negative to it. But I think for us it helped that I was on a TV show and I was living by myself alone for the first time out in Vancouver. And so I was just focused on that. And you were like left to be at home with my mom
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
still all of us at that point were living together and you were kind of mourning the divorce a little bit with her. So I think in a weird way, you like carried some of that trauma with you where I was kind of like, bye, I'm off shooting the show for eight, nine months.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
It was like the first real time I remember being like, oh, like people know me from this show. And then it was just, you know, after that, it was still very, we had a very normal life. But I just remember being like, oh, people are stopping me because of this TV show.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Girls. But I don't think it's like or at least I didn't feel like it turned me off from marriage or not believing in marriage for whatever reason.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I still like believed in the idea of it. And and. I don't know, I think we always felt like, okay, there is a chance that you can actually have a successful marriage in this day and age. You just got to really work on it. And I think if I'm- They stop working on it. Yeah, they stop working on it. If I'm going to be the little Yoda that I am in my heart- Yeah, bring it, bring it.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
But I do love Yoda, actually. The child really is.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
We love Grogo. I think that not working on- the relationship between the mom and dad is the whole end of the marriage because everything was poured into me and AJ. And that was almost like a scapegoat. And then it was like, oh, we don't work on ourselves. We're not gonna be in therapy. We're not gonna do these things. We're not gonna make sure that you are flown out on tour
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Well, I think making moments where it can be the two of us or even if like our kid is around, it's like, okay, well, he's like asleep right now. We can still kind of have like a little date night and go out to dinner and put him in his little stroller and like it can still be romantic or we can put a movie on or we can get away to our favorite place in Big Sur and it can be –
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I don't know. Maybe AJ. She'll splurge on more like a skincare thing or like doing like your nails. Your skin is beautiful.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
You have great skin. Yeah, you do. Did you ever have bad skin, like, as a teen? Did you? Oh, my God, yes.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And it was so good. Thank you. It was cute. It did pop. But, like, we only did two seasons, which people kind of forget.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I was like, come on. You're like, give it to me. That is true. AJ. I'm like, come on, bitch.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
But with each other. Got it. To the grave together. Do you know what I mean? But that's not to the grave. I know. But it has to be between the two of us.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I mean, we both can pick a fight with each other. pretty like quickly pretty quickly if it's the right subject matter you know the right thing if it's like we're disagreeing on something like how something was handled like AG will be like you had a bunch of typos in this one business email. I'm like, who cares?
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
She's like, she will. She's like, you're, you're, you're writing an email. Like you're texting, you know, like you're like, this is sloppy. This isn't good for our business. I'm like, okay. I'm like, sorry. Like that, you know, that's not even a fight, but like I usually start something sooner.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yes, that's it. That's it. I know, it's a travesty. And then it got canceled.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
That's a good one. Drives me insane. That is a great one.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Ooh, AJ. Hmm. Hmm. Okay, we both are OCD and we know this about each other. But AJ loves to reorganize an area that I've already kind of pre-tried to organize knowing that AJ doesn't like something moved. That's true. Like the shoes or something. I'm like, okay, she'll like it in this corner. I love things lined up perfectly.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
22 i think okay that's also so different like these days it's like sure episodes yeah yeah that's a good point yeah okay but 20 that's still a lot of episodes yeah so it's only two
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And then it's like moved and it's like the shoes are just in a different corner but they're still...
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I mean, this record feels like it's never been more us. Obviously, every single album, you're hoping to achieve that 10% better each time, just like you would with each season of the show. But I do feel like we've really stepped into our womanhood on this album. And I think part of that is...
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
is I think just seeing that this music has been so informed by our live show and touring and playing songs to a live audience and with our band that we've now been playing with for a few years has really helped us identify, okay, this is the kind of music we want to put on a record and what we want to then go out and tour. So I think it's looking at it from like,
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
the live show is the top of the pyramid and how do we get to the live show? And I think a lot of this music was created with people that we felt really safe with and was while I was like heavily pregnant. I mean, I guess we started writing it right before I got pregnant and then
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
really the whole making of this album has been either me pregnant and then delivering and then album is finished and delivered.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And then I got really nervous thinking OCD. I was like, she's going to be pissed because this water is on her bed and on the ground.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Like the longest running team member. Yeah. for us like you know so it was like it was kind of almost like a father figure you know so it was very hard to come to terms with it and then we we felt like this could be a song you know um and it's so specific like when you listen to the song and you read the lyrics you're like oh this is
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Laurel Canyon to then live in Santa Barbara like away from AJ and I wrote I basically wrote this song with AJ about um like moving into this new house in this new space and it not feeling like a home and feeling like I was kind of like summoning it to be this this place that I felt welcomed in and not not like it had like bad juju or vibes I just was like this isn't perfect and this isn't right.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And I want to change out this doorknob. And my husband was just like, okay. And I'm like pregnant and like nesting. And I'm just like frantic, like fix this. This needs to be fixed. And it just, and I was like, you know what? This would be a good song, like willing this to happen and to make this space a home. And I really love AJ's the way she sings the bridge on, on that song.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
The song is called, I don't know what it is. And, and I think that song just, whenever I listened to it, It's almost kind of healing because I'm finally at a place where the home doesn't feel like a shell.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Like a shell. It feels like, oh, this is a place that has good memories. And I associate like my birth and I birthed in this living room right here. And this is this wasn't traumatic. This was all kind of what I hoped it would be. Oh.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah. So I think it's like the end story of it is really great, but it was very much me struggling to find my identity within the home. And then the other song that's like maybe equal to that is a song called Dandelions, which is about Jack. And we kind of wrote this pre him being born, which is crazy.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Knowing he was coming and that we wanted... him to like have this message of hope and like whatever dreams we're not able to reach he is more than capable of reaching them himself you know that is hopefully each generation reaches more oh my god how crazy and cool that you guys like one day like your son will get to
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And I think with this record, there was so much like feminine energy around it. And I think part of that was me being pregnant. But then part of that was us just going through the growing pains of like, we are getting older and we don't live down the street from each other. And we aren't living in our childhood really anymore. We're out of that phase.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I was like, so we need to be like 21 or something? I was like, I'm 35. I was like, I'm 33.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
After the meeting, she was like, I'm sorry. I just, I have to kind of like, like, not after the meeting.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
After we had heard that it was a no. So it was like, you know, we did the meeting and then it was like, you know, whatever it was. Two days later, it was like, oh, a call is coming, you know, and we're kind of going, OK, well, I want I hope it's like positive. And that was the feedback. And he was like, I just need to sit with this for a minute.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
You know what I mean? And also, I think part of it was, besides, you know, like you said, the fact that it's maybe not ideal age for breaking an artist, whatever, in the music industry. I think part of it was also like the album was completed and done. They couldn't meddle and change stuff.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Because it's finished. It's not like, hey, here's some demos. And they're like, oh, yes, we love track one. No to two, three, and six. Change this sound and this vibe.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And they were like, you know, Ann, we wouldn't maybe go down this route like sonically for you. I'm like- Like us playing music and writing the music. Like what, what do you mean? Yeah. It's wild.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
It's, it's, it's a message that, that is very pure and what it is. There's no like a gimmick behind it. So yeah. They're not like, oh, I can like – It's harder to sell sometimes. Yeah, it's harder to sell something because they're like, what's the shtick? And it's like just we're sisters. We play music. We write. We've been doing this since we were young.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
who knows no but sure you can love pop but like i really think that you guys are connecting to something that people are loving which is authenticity so it's exactly what your show i mean yeah and i feel like people gravitate towards that you know i think people are so that's why this show works like it's authentic speaking to the truth of how women talk and how we feel and how we communicate you knew that was a missing piece yes
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And in a strange way, like any money that you're making, of course, seems like great. But like I made like $7,000 per episode on.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
That ain't nothing. Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah. That is interesting. Like, cause when you look back, I don't know what that would equate to today, but like true. Right. But I guess for a kid's show, you're kind of like, that's great.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
We're big, like, spa people. And we kind of have been since we were young. Like, we were, like, hanging out in a spa at, like, 10 and 12. And we were just loving it. And our parents would be like, I don't know. They just, like, love hot, dry saunas and getting massages.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
you know what I mean yeah I feel like our parents were very they were pretty strict and like our mom was on set with us like amazing if she needed to be somewhere for you and I was like on set she would be gone to like get you to the audition and then would be like straight back on set you know that I feel like that's like the biggest key that when kids come out now it's like there's this like missing element which was kind of like the parental figures
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I mean, yeah. I mean, it's funny. She had the offer. I had the offer. And it was, Phil hadn't ended at that point. It was like they knew that Phil, I think, was on the way out or told us like, you know, we might not be doing a third season. And Gary, who, you know, was the head of the channel, Gary Marsh at the time.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah, was like, this pilot has come in and we think that you're really perfect for it. And I just remember reading it And being like, wait, but I'm doing music as Allie. And this might be really confusing being Hannah and being the character also playing Hannah. There's like three versions. There would be three of you. It would be very confusing.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And I was like, you know, how does AJ relate to this? And then they, I mean, they literally said, well, then AJ could play the best friend part.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Lily, I think, yeah. So they were like, why don't you have... And I was like, but it feels like it's my show. It's not really like the Hannah and Lily show. And I think at that point, too, I was probably... like close to being maybe 17 at that point, which is funny too, because like we weren't on the channel for that long.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Like I booked Phil at 13, and then by the time it was over, I was like, you know, whatever, 16 and a half or something. So I was like almost 17, I think, when that was offered. And I just remember thinking like, I've kind of done what I wanted to do here on the channel.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Exactly. Yeah, I did. You're right. You're right.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Yeah, that's our number one. That's our number one. Or, like, I mean, literally, it's, like, a movie, like, just on AJ's couch. Just, like...
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
I don't um I mean, for like a young relationship, over a year is pretty good.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
And then they were kind of trying to make, like, something happen with, like, me and Kevin. And I was like, it's not really vibing. And then, I mean, bless. But, like, and then it was like, no, maybe you can, like, date the bass player, Greg. And I was like, no, it's still not vibing. And, I mean, like, again, bless him, too. No, of course. But it just wasn't. I was like, no.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
ordering in yeah how like often do you guys hang out all the time yeah all the time like every day well no because now that she's a mom to me yeah so now that she's a mom it's not every day and also we don't live down the street from each other we literally used to live i'm not even kidding you like me in my car minutes from each other driving to aj's four minutes i could walk to her house and like
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
It was, like, natural that her and Joe had a connection.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
It was always a friendship. No. Although I remember like... He's also older than you. Well, and in that... That age range felt huge. Like I was 13 and I think he was 16. I think. Oh, and that is huge. That's a big gap at that age. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
But I remember during the test, like when I tested for Phil the Future and I saw that he was the other boy that was up for it, I was like, he's really cute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then of course you meet them and then you're like, oh, now we're just buddies.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
So no, no, no. OK. We're clearing up all the rumors. That is so funny.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
But we were like not party girls like for whatever. that's worth.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
In a weird way, we should have been on for like 15 years because they would have been like, they're good. We don't need to be worried.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Like, yeah, for whatever reason, we just were not like rebellious types, both of us. And I think maybe part of it was because we had each other. Yeah. So it was like, we didn't have to act out and prove ourself to like our parents or it was just like, I don't know.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
They're like, give them some Red Bull and like, they're fine. I'm not kidding.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
No, like, truly. And we kind of, I mean, and that was during the height of all of those girls. Honestly, don't ruin your moment. Like, if you want to have fun, do it right. But, like, we were just fine. We were like, hi. Hi, we'll just be, like, no problem in the club.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
Which I think then made people be like, oh, my gosh, you're so darling to the Meshaka girls. Like, they're just harmless. Sweet. Yeah, that is pretty funny.
Call Her Daddy
Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters
No, I think we've always- Like the duo aspect of it? No, we've never resented that. I think the only thing that maybe we've been like, gosh, I wish we had had like a different band name that wasn't our names.
Call Her Daddy
Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
when you're able to look back at dissociating and obviously the bulimia and everything, have you recognized the through line of what was going on in your life at that young age?
Call Her Daddy
Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
But I knew at one point I would be able to bring that part of my life forward because the honest truth is I did that way longer than I did call her daddy. Like since I was so young playing soccer, you know how it goes. And so it's a part of your identity that feels weird. I'm willing to get to, but like when you retire and when you're away from it, you're like, who am I without this thing?
Call Her Daddy
Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
That's so beautiful, though, because so many people are not even fortunate to say that to be like a lot of times we repeat patterns. And there are so many people like, oh, my God, I did marry my dad. Fuck. Like, got to redo this one now. Like, that's this is not working. And you being able to recognize like that.
Call Her Daddy
Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
there was this feeling in your home that was unsafe and it made you not want to be in your body and i think a lot of people like obviously with eating disorders i have a lot of people in my life like a lot of it stems from control and that was the one thing you could control And so now that you're able to explore this, I think it's beautiful.
Call Her Daddy
Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
And having a partner that's sitting next to you that's like, I'm going to be there every step of the way for you so you feel safe. Because going through therapy and uncovering things from childhood is – I don't even have a word for it. It's like you're rewatching –
Call Her Daddy
Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
for some people like a nightmare that you don't want to open up and for you to have someone that's just like there to guide you and even as cute as is you walking being like are you comfortable can i adjust the pillows it's no it's it's you need someone like that you can't no one can go through this shit alone and that's what's so beautiful about this did you though abby when you know i'm talking about it with you glenn and like i'm thinking about being an athlete and
Call Her Daddy
Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
There's such a fixation on our bodies as athletes and at every different stage, whether it's the early days to then, obviously, when you get like later on. Did you struggle when you were younger at all with your body? I never had like...
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
So it's been incredible to get back into it. And I feel like I literally called my mom. I was like, I feel like a part of me is back. Like, I feel like I'm alive again. And it's just, it's amazing. And to be sitting with you, I mean, Abby, like, no, your kids think I'm cool, but
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It's so real because I'm like, oh, I don't have kids yet, but I can imagine you guys feel this way. You're like, oh, I can't wait to find out how we fucked them up.
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They're going to come. No one's life is perfect. Everyone feels. And again, it's I love that you're saying that because there are some parents where it's like, whoa, this is like objectively you fuck these people. But then there's also parents where it's like, yeah, you did your best. And I still have things from my childhood that really affected me as a human being that I can say that out loud.
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And it doesn't mean that you are this horrible human being. Yeah, both things can be true. Did you, though, Abby, like in your high school days, like did you have any insecurities that you were dealing with that you felt like you weren't able to be open about with people?
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growing up are you fucking kidding me sorry for my language i just wanted to be you and you are so fucking talented in all the things and so yes bow down to you soccer fucking god that's sweet thank you You guys, your book, first of all, congratulations. I know obviously you've written numerous books, but like we can do hard things doing it together. Congratulations.
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I, the Catholic church, I agree. There's like, There is growing up when you're so young and you're watching something and you're hearing something like I remember like hearing about sex as I'm sitting in those pews being like, OK, so I'll basically die. I do this before marriage. Got it. Like, whoa. And then like after I did it, I was like, am I going to die? I'm alive.
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This is great. Yeah, God. Can we talk about you guys both kind of talked about it earlier, but you both talked about like using alcohol to cope in ways. When did you realize, oh, I think I have a different relationship to alcohol than my peers and my friends around me? you both talked about like using alcohol to cope in ways.
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When did you realize, oh, I think I have a different relationship to alcohol than my peers and my friends around me?
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Abby, what was the moment for you that you knew you needed to get sober?
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What inspired you guys to do this?
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I think that's also really helpful to hear when you say like you didn't know anyone that was sober. I think there's a lot of people that probably are having the same exact experience as you in terms of struggling with alcohol. But like that fun factor, they genuinely believe life won't be fun.
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And am I going to be like the odd man out where people are going to look at me and I'm the only one that doesn't drink? And I feel like, yes, definitely. That is fair to think. But once you start living it like your testimony, be like, wait, you guys, it's literally great. Like, I'm totally. And of course, it's hard. It doesn't mean it's not hard. You're going through this.
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But the social element, I also think people are way more. loving and giving in moments where we think we're going to get judged. Also, depending on who you're hanging out with, there can be assholes that are pressuring you. But for the most part, if you're around people that are good people, people just want the best for you.
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People are going to meet you where you're at if you're around the right people. And I'll just say this.
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So real. They won't care. They won't care. Do you feel like any of your teammates were kind of, catching on because I know that there's a big secrecy element, but it only can last for so long. Like, how do you think it impacted your relationships?
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I think I'm doing okay. In speaking about your wife, can we talk about how the two of you met? Because I, When I was doing my research, I was like, wait, this is like a fucking epic story, you guys know, this is like. It's hot and cute and I am obsessed. OK, so. You release a book. Miss Glennon, you release a book and this book is about your husband at the time.
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He had cheated and you write about finding out he cheated and you're going to stay.
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And you go to a book event. Tell me the story. What happens?
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Glennon, Glennon, we, Abby, she's basically standing up like the fucking Lion King. And then she's bowing. What are you thinking? And what are you thinking in this moment? And what are you doing?
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At a librarian's church. I know. I'm like, damn, Glennon. You're like, I'm getting turned on at the convention. It was an inconvenient time. All these librarians are like, the fuck is she doing?
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One, I'm so sorry. Two, beautiful, because I feel like the hardest moments in life is really when you have to look inward. And like you said, you lose your way. You're like, what am I doing and what is happening? But there's a recalibration that happens because you have to go so deep inner strength. And then you know who's the closest person to you.
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I am not hard to get. Like, I have been sexually awoken. Put me in. First of all, did you feel at all? Like, at this point, she's married to a man. Are you, like, wondering at all? Like, could this even be? Like, would she even be interested? Or are you not even thinking romantic yet?
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What does this email say? Give me the gist.
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You're like, oh, wow, I really know I'm in love or I really know this person, my sister, my family, whoever it be that's there for you. If they really stand up, you're like, that is such an incredible support system that I've built for myself. And some people then come to realize like, well, fuck, I don't need this person in my life. They weren't there for me in a moment where I really needed them.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
Wait, you say you're over men as you're like married to this man. Abby's like, huh. I know. Interesting. So when throughout this email process, do you think each of you recognize this is turning romantic? Good question.
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So much of the wisdom you poured into this, I think, is so applicable to my audience that So I kind of want to just like go through it all. Yes. Let's go back to the beginning, though, because I want to get to know you guys better. And through that, we're going to obviously get the wisdom. Abby, growing up, you were the youngest of seven kids.
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Just talking. Just like you had never even kissed. You had never. OK, hold on.
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You blew up her whole life. Did that freak you out a little? No. No. Yeah. You're like, let's go. You were waiting for a girl, a straight girl to blow up her whole life and choose you.
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How did your family react to you being like, I'm with a woman now?
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No, but, like, if I got bad texts, I'd be like, oh, yeah, like, you're getting into soccer. Right. Cool. Like, it's about time. Like, no. Finally.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle, welcome to Call Her Daddy. We're here. We made it. Wait, I'm like thinking about your daughter right now and we're like, yeah, they made it. Yeah, they made it. Okay, so she's a fan?
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
Can you share with me, once you guys got into this relationship, everyone brings a little bit of baggage from their past, obviously, and you haven't gotten cheated on. How did that impact your guys' relationship with, okay, I hit the mother load. You're like, okay, how did it impact your guys' relationship with trust?
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Can you describe your personality as a kid when you were younger?
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Everyone brings a little bit of baggage from their past, obviously, and you having gotten cheated on. How did it impact your guys' relationship with trust?
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She got out too fast or too fast for you?
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I also love what you guys talked about with the phone and the trust thing. Because I have... Had so many people come on and it hasn't been the reaction that you've given Abby, which I can imagine there is a level of anger for sure someone has where it's like, you don't trust me. Why are you going through my stuff? But to be met with such grace and love. That makes now sense why, Glenn.
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Then you're like, oh, and then I never need to do it again. Because when they also blow up, it does give you even more pause as the person looking through being like, well, what are you freaking out about and what is there to hide? Not that there's always something to hide, but that moment I do think is a defining moment for a lot of relationships based off of here have everything.
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Not that you need to give them everything, but it's a nice gesture to be like, go on my Candy Crush account. There is literally nothing on my phone that I feel like I need to hide.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
It's a great point because I think a lot of people listening and specifically women like we're always –
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kind of taught to question ourselves like we're not supposed to be confident and know what we want it's like question yourself and don't be so confident and you talking about being in your body and how your life is changing by starting to be more like cognizant of like where you are and who you are in your relationships like again then having a beautiful relationship that you guys are building together it makes it easier but it still is going to show up and then it's about how you guys handle those moments that then
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if anything, they get you even closer. Like that moment, like you just said, we've never had something like that except for last Tuesday. I'm just kidding. You're like, Tuesday? But those moments make it so much easier to be light and free and in your body when you feel that safe where you're like, oh, I don't even care about your email. Don't give me the password. I'm too busy.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
Can we talk about intimacy? Because I think a lot of people, when they think about relationships and kind of like how you described it, Glennon,
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sex for you you were just like oh I thought it was something you did oils change boom bye we're done and I think a lot of people think about sex and intimacy is like it the the way to equate how good our relationship is is how much we're having sex like if someone is craving more intimacy in their relationship currently like what advice do you have for them listening and watching I guess just even saying that is a good start yeah I think that
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
I love it. Well, I'm happy you're here. I was going to say like to anyone watching, we've virtually met because you guys obviously came on my Paris Olympics show virtually. So this is the first time we're meeting in person and I'm honored to have you guys here. How are you doing today? How are you?
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
I can tell you two. It's just... You are talking so much like you're like, oh, wait, remember the other night that we were up late? Like, I think that every time you hear people give advice, like communicate, it's like, shut up.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
But it actually when you start to really dissect what is communicating in a relationship look like it is literally after the in love portion and you come down and it's reality. Are we compatible in what we want in life? And so many people, there's usually one person in the relationship that's kind of vying for the other person's attention, be like, do you like this?
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And then the person's like, no, I don't know. And then like, okay. And then they kind of mold to that person because the person that cares least in the relationship has all the power. That's right. And so it's like this uneven thing that when all of a sudden you find that person that feels like you're genuine equal. Yes. And you are compatible.
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It doesn't mean you're not going to disagree on things, but it's just this like one step forward each time and you're in lockstep. And there's nothing more beautiful than having a partner like that. But it's rare to find. I feel like you can both now, like you having been in previous relationships, me too, it's so rare to find. And that's why I want for all the women listening, like,
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If you're not sure, if you don't have that feeling, it's probably that's your answer. It's not there because like what you guys are describing. Yes, maybe you're not going to meet someone that stands up and gravitates in the air towards you.
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But that feeling of like, no, I want to do the hard work with this person that I feel like if it's missing, if it's not there, you kind of know it's not the right person because when it's right. You fucking know it's so right.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
Knowing like everyone watching this right now because I have so many people that write in every day and they're like, is this the right person? That's it. How do you feel when you're with this person? And if you don't feel like your best version of yourself, you probably have the answer. Okay, I want to play a quick game. Yay.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
Because now that you said that you're getting to like 10 years, we need to play a little who's more likely to. Okay. Who is more likely to start a deep, personal, intimate, emotional conversation at 11 p.m. at night? We've never been awake at 11 p.m. Okay, late night.
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And you're like, honey, one thought I had to go to bed, go to bed. OK, who's more likely to send a steamy text during a work meeting?
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
So good. Okay. Who's more likely to get a spontaneous tattoo? Her. Really? I love a tattoo.
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OK, who's more likely to get too competitive at board games? I knew that one. Who's more likely to suggest skinny dipping on vacation?
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Who's more likely to turn a small moment into a metaphor for life? That's my jam, Alex.
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Oh, my God. Wait, can you think of one that you've been like saying recently?
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Bubble of love. Bubble of love. I love this bubble of love. OK, love. Who's more likely to get on stage at karaoke?
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In my body. You were in your body.
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You were in that G-string. Yes. What were you thinking when she was on stage, Abby?
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I'm so proud of you.
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That takes confidence. Yeah. And I can only imagine, Abby, as you're saying that, being like – That's my wife.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
That's the best though that you got that feedback because I get what you mean when you're laying there. You're like, wait, was I like being kind of cringe? Like, did it, was it okay? Like, did I sound okay? And then everyone's like, babe, you crushed.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
Alex I was in the fetal position in the bed in the hotel going did I humiliate was that the best moment of my life or the worst moment of my life it was so you had fun yeah it was amazing okay who's more likely to sleep past noon on a weekend I would sleep longer who's more likely to start a hobby and forget it two weeks later me okay It's okay. It's okay.
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But you first have to buy all the gear for it.
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Oh, I'm the same way. Like, I will go and buy things and be like, I'm doing this. And then I'm like, oh. And then Matt loves to be like, remember when you said you were going to get into Pilates and I bought you a Pilates machine and you've used it two times? And I'm like, please, this is enough. He's like, remember when you tried tennis? And I was like... Shut up. Okay.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
I'm going to get back to it at some point. Who's more likely to suggest staying in instead of going out?
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
Okay. Love that. Same. Who's more likely to say, I have a new idea for a book slash podcast slash project? That's all we say. That's all we talk about. Yeah.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
We're doing work. We're working today, ladies. We're putting in work. Okay. Who's more likely to give the other unsolicited advice?
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
Oh, that's good. Yep, for sure. I'll report back to my meeting. Yeah, no, it's great. You guys, I had the best time with you. I like don't want this to end. I think something that is like my favorite part of my job is when I get to sit down with people that I obviously like see on social media or I'm a fan of, fan of.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
And then getting to actually speak to you guys like we are in my living room and we're just talking about things that we clearly talk about in real life. It was such a pleasure to get to hang out with you guys because seeing your relationship up close and personal, it's so beautiful and inspiring. And I hope so many people take from this like the work you both have done.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
from childhood, all the things you guys have gone through to get to this point and then to make this beautiful marriage work. And it is work, but it's fun work and it's good work. I just thank you guys for opening up to me today because I know we got a little deep in moments, but it was really fun and it was a pleasure. So thank you. Love bubble. Love bubble. We love you. Thank you.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
I love you guys. You guys are the best.
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When it's like, honey, what?
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
Glennon we're getting to you hold on go back I'm sorry carry on I think that's beautiful like oh my god it's so beautiful I hate you what give me some of that um no that's so because like I was thinking even when you're saying that two things one I think whenever we just have these like I have these memories of you on the field and these like just iconic historic moments of you pushing through where so many people must just have been like
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how the fuck is she still standing and alive on this field and still going and still bringing it and then getting that backstory of you being like oh i've literally been doing this since i opened my eyes and could walk and breathe and i'm the youngest and i think about i only have two above me i'm like thinking about you being the youngest that's what i was gonna ask you is like how much of what you were doing was you just trying to get attention from your parents and
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Because a huge family and being the youngest, you're kind of just like getting tagged along a lot of the times and you're never getting the first backpack. You're getting the hand-me-downs. You know what I mean? So there's a lot of you're just kind of having to go with the flow. Do you think that that has impacted your personality as an adult?
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
Everything you just said, I relate to. Yes, you're right. You're like seeing right through me. I'm like, I, we just met, but I can, I feel it out. I, I so relate to so many things you're saying.
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And I agree with the athlete thing of like, there's an identity crisis, but it, and you're also made to feel as though if you are going for something so big and so valued and so many people are going to look at you in this high regard and And you just keep doing it and you just keep winning. And it's so addictive. Like it is.
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
It's an addictive thing that then when you are sitting at home and really what you learn is it's actually kind of more beautiful when you have just people around you and it's longevity and love and care and kindness and all that in the house. But you're like, why is it quiet? Why is this boring? What's wrong?
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
Like, I'm a loser now. I'm just sitting here and all my athletic ability. And then it's like, no, no, no, no. This is actually peace. And this is beautiful. And it's not normal to every waking day be like, I have to one-up myself. I have to one-up myself. I have to keep doing it. That can drive you insane and can also drive you to be depressed because then you're like, I need that high.
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Like, where is it? Where is it? And then you start to look for it elsewhere. Yeah. Pausing on us, Glennon, then I'm thinking about you. Like, how was your family dynamic growing up different than what Abby is describing hers was?
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what am I doing? Your head is spinning. And you're like, this is normal. Abby's like, what are you talking about? We got so deep. We got to know that this one's dating this one. Like, what? You're like, but we didn't get into the mental, emotional. We didn't sit on the couch and talk for an hour and get deep. I get it. I get it. What insecurities?
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Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: Intimacy, Cheating & Starting Over
I know you kind of mentioned, obviously, this past year that you recognized that you were diagnosed with anorexia. But back when you were in high school, can you talk to me about the insecurities that you struggled with? I don't know.
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I really appreciate that. I think like it was almost like a part of my life that I never really got to bring forward when I got into media because it didn't make sense. Like the call her daddy girl when I was talking about sex and relationships, like also played soccer and was like a competitive athlete. I'm like, those aren't making sense.
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I know you were so young, but do you remember the first time you remember feeling like uncomfortable with your body?
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Wow. And so it just naturally progressed. That's like I, girl, we have like this. I were so in simpatico with this. I'm like, I met my man like literally online, on Zoom.
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So we had like a random meeting that my agent was having me meet like with like TV and movie producers just to see if like I would ever want to do something in that space. And he was like my last Zoom of the day. And I always joke to him because I had these like men that were like fucking 60. Yeah.
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right there's anything wrong with you yeah but they were like 16 I'm like in my hoodie I'm like looking not that cute and then the last zoom of the day he was late so I like googled him and I was like wait he's fucking young and hot what the hell I'm like putting my fucking lip liner I'm over lining my lips I'm pushing my tits up I get on the zoom I'm like hello and he was just so cute and charming but also like not overly like oh my god I want to be in business with the caller daddy girl so I kind of loved it that he wasn't giving me too much of the time of day and then we ended up talking and then I flew to LA and met him and when was this
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This was in 2020. You lived in New York, right? Yeah. And Kyle lived in LA. Yeah. I lived in New York and Matt lived in LA and we met in the pandemic online. Oh my days. No, and then we- What is this synergy? No, it's weird. I'm telling you.
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That's why I was so excited to talk to you today because then seeing your engagement, I was like, girl, we have too much in common right now.
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Can I ask you though, like when you started to talk to Kyle- Were you looking for a relationship? Like when was your last relationship prior to him?
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Were you at all like, You're an athlete. I don't know about athletes. Like, were you at all nervous? Because I feel like some girls are like you go in and you're like, oh, here we go again. And he seems obviously he's amazing. But did you have any preconceived notions?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
When you – because I remember when I got engaged, I was similar to you where, like, everyone around me was, like, knew every detail to the point where, like, my husband flew my friends out and my family out. Like, everyone was there. Isn't that so beautiful? It's so beautiful to know that – I don't know.
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Talk to me about the pros and cons of being in a long distance relationship at first because I have so many women write in to me being like, what do I do? And like, what was your experience with it? Did you ever get annoyed? Was it good because it was COVID that you were like fine with it?
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got like cut because the pandemic hit i had to go back home and then it was kind of like what do i do do i like go home to toronto and stay with my family do i like stay here okay you need to talk to me though about the weird part of social media is yes you saw this man one time coming out of a club quickly and like barely you just notice his height you're not like really focused on him you meet him in person basically for the first time and even though you guys have been talking like yeah
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Cause you're like, I thought a lot about that of like, when you're telling this story, I'm like, as much as you're sharing, which is a weird, beautiful thing. I do think when people give people shit of like,
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I feel like when you become an adult, there's little moments where you actually feel like you get surprised in life and you actually are enjoying like people coming together and doing something special for you. Because when you're an adult, it's like you're getting the niece and nephews or your kids, the presents for the holiday. Like it's just not as magical in moments.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
meeting online and i wish i met them romantically in a bar and whatever it's like there is something so gorgeous i felt with my husband of we did the same thing where we're like facetiming every single we're like covet couples where it's like you're facetiming every night you're talking we were getting so much deeper than maybe we would have been if we were just like out for drinks in la and having like one hour dinners and everything happens for a reason right and
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
But then you're like, now let's see if we physically connect. And I, like, you had the feeling. Yeah. But still, do you remember the first time that you were like, oh, my God, okay, like, we're going to, like, kiss and make out? Like, was it immediate or did you guys wait to, like, physically connect?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
What is your ideal night out? Tell me about your social life. If you have your choice and you're going out somewhere, what are you doing? What are you eating? What's your vibe?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Do you drink? Yeah. What's your go-to drink? Cocktail?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
I put it on my espresso martini. I'm like, it's so good. I like sweet drinks. Yeah, okay.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Okay, when you're drunk, are you the life of the party? Are you the person like Irish exiting or are you the drunk crier? Or like who are you in your friend group?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
And when you have the people in your life come together to like make this fun moment that's so grand, you're like- I'm always a part, like I'm sure you are a part of like the planning of everything.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
I feel like I'd run into you in a bathroom at a party in LA and we would be doing this, but like more annoying. Be like, no, no, but you don't know. You don't get it. But you're so gorgeous. No, that's so girl coded. You're just like, shut up. Shut up.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
That's literally Matt is always like, but what could you guys have been talking about? And I'm like, what do you mean? What do you mean? There's so much to discuss. Oh my God. You get it. Okay. You're one of the most famous supermodels in the world. So I want to play a quick game just to like catch your vibe. Let's do it.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
I'm going to give you a crazy modeling scenario and you're going to tell me if you would book it or you would back out of the gig.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Pose in a live snake pit. How many snakes? Oh, see me, I'd be like, I wouldn't, don't even. So you're down. Yeah. What's the craziest like modeling thing you've done for like safety?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
I love girls that do it, but I could never do that. I am such a little bitch with pain. I would be like, I would, I couldn't, I just could never.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Oh my God. Like a little like white t-shirt and you see, I'm like, girl, you're crushing.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Okay. Do a month long shoot somewhere like in Antarctica or something crazy, but you have to be gone for a month.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Okay, you were once on America's Next Top Model. Can you describe your experience in three words? I would say... Unique.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
No, I just said I'm like a sultry, raspy voice for a podcast.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Since America's Next Top Model ended, obviously so many people have come out and just been like, they didn't have the best experience. And some people were like, this was a traumatic experience for me. Like, what was your take in your experience?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
You're like, I would have picked that. I would have picked that.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
That's, like, the weirdest part of life is, like, I look back at certain things people always ask me about, like, my first job that I had or an experience that I had that, like, maybe even if it was, like, considered in people's mind, like, more negative in the public eye, like, I feel like I have now...
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
grown so much where I have I actually can genuinely say I have perspective right and when you're so close to something you don't and so even if in the moment you could say this is amazing or negative or whatever then once you get like 10 years down the line even five years down the line you're like whoa I am so grateful for what that taught me because then like what else are we going to do like whatever it is like
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Wait, can you give us like how he actually physically did it?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
the energy then like festers in a capacity where like you don't grow energy that you put into it as well you know and i feel like anything that happens like i was 18 when i was on the show that's what i was gonna say you're 18 then you're done the show like 19. like did you ever
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
struggle with confidence like as a whole as a teenager obviously going on that type of show i think people think like these are the most beautiful women in the world like oh my gosh to be a model you must have such confidence like what were you going through i feel like you can have a off day any day like it doesn't matter how old you are how young you are like sometimes i might be breaking out or you know whatever the case is and like i'm like okay cool like
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
this is a for now thing yeah like but you're still that girl don't worry about it that's such a good point of like I look back when I was in high school let's say compared to now even like even using acne as an example struggled with acne so much in high school and was like this is the end of the world now when I'm like struggling with acne I'm like I don't care anymore but again I think that's fair to say because you're just at a different stage in your life where you know how to handle things better I think when you're
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Can we talk about your early dating life? What was your first romantic relationship like?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Okay, but like your first part. Yeah, no, no. Fuck him. No, like so cute. So adorable. So adorable. But the first one that you were like, oh, I'm like in love.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
What has set your relationship up with Kyle apart from...
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
the previous relationships you've had because i do want to say i agree with you that like in the moment and it doesn't take away from anyone experiencing right now but like when you feel so like lost and why doesn't he do this or that like you're not in the right relationship and it's so hard to see it but then once you do find the right one you're like if he wanted to he would like if he wanted to he would
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
and it's like then you like almost laugh at yourself but it takes finding the right example to then be like oh my god what was i thinking it's all an experience you know like it's all a life experience and it's also helping to teach you what you are looking for because unless you you know have experiences you won't know were you always when you were dating like very straight up or were you ever a little like coy playing games like
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Yes, that's fair. What is the biggest red flag you've ever ignored?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
It's so hard when you're in it, when your mom says that, because you're like, no, you just don't get it. You don't understand him, mom. Girl, no, listen to your mom. Listen to your mom. So true. But it's so hard in that moment because you're trying to...
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
express your individuality and a lot of times when we have our first young relationships you're trying to separate yourself from when your parents were like you're not allowed to go out or you're not so it's like you're like i want to make my own decisions independent of you but then at some point you go back you're like wait mom why didn't you tell me she's like i've been telling you for a year alex that man is a walking red flag and i'm like really you said that i don't
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
that's so humbling when they just stare at you and you're like it's over and they're like finally and you're like mom um you and kyle both have such intense careers can you talk about how you guys prioritize making time together because it's such a simple concept but it is very hard when you have crazy schedules like how do you make it work communication it's so like corny to say but like it literally is that without communication like
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
And I think like I said that the other day, someone said something about like how to like with Matt. And I'm like, we communicate. And I'm like, oh, my God, you're right. It sounds so simple. But again, when I look back at previous partners that I had, it so isn't simple because some people make it impossible.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Right? Yeah. And it sounds easy, but like everyone listening, you've been there.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
But you know what I'm like thinking about when we're talking to, which is like the pros of how our relationship started with the men that we're with is like.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
matt and i and it seems like you and kyle did this where it was like the amount of conversations we had on facetime where we naturally wouldn't have probably been talking that long and extensively had we been in the same area because it would be like oh our friends are all going to the dinner or we're all going out tonight and oh we're going to sleep or we're watching the movie like the amount of conversations we've had it kind of just became this like prerequisite in our relationship that set us up for like
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Like, you saying this also, Winnie, I appreciate because... I was talking about this with my friend. She had gone into couples therapy and she was like, why do I feel this like weird shame around admitting that I'm in couples therapy? And I was like, but yet it's so normal.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
And I think you normalizing like, You can be going to therapy to even better yourself. It's not always because something's wrong and in crisis mode. It's the same thing when you're in therapy for yourself. I've gotten to the point where when I'm talking to my therapist, I'm like, I don't really have much going on today, but I'm happy.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Let's dive into other stuff that maybe I can work on that's not at the forefront of my brain. It's like, we can always evolve. We can always get better. But when people think about couples therapy, they're like, oh, What's wrong? Nothing. We're literally just trying to be as solid as we can be as we enter these next stages of life together.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Daddy gang. If you're going to couples therapy, don't let people fucking judge you.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
OK. Have you guys ever gone through a lull like physically because of your schedules? And how do you guys come back together and like make time to physically connect and be present with each other? Have you guys ever gone through a lull like physically because of your schedules and how do you guys come back together and like make time to physically connect and be present with each other?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
It's so hard to... Every time someone asks me, I'm like...
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
I would be lying if I said and I think again this is why this conversation is so healthy to have of like I would be lying if I said that Matt and I throughout our relationship have not had to have multiple check-ins being like we need to always will we need to reconnect always you always will but if you don't and I think if anything I would ask people that are in relationships to check in with yourself to be like when is the last time you and your partner were like hey I
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
we need to either one, we need, we need to make sure we have more quality time. We need to two, we need to make sure we're more physical. Like we haven't connected about whatever it is for your personal relationship. Resetting in moments because we get so fucking busy and like, we don't even have kids yet. Yeah. And we're both working. So I'm like, I don't know. So I just think it's normal to say.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
And again, I think because of social media, people are like, everything is perfect. And it's like, yeah, I love Matt, but, and we're married and he's the best.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
We got to make sure that we're on the same page. Except for our engagements. Yeah. Those were perfect. But nothing in life is perfect. OK. We're going to play a game. I'm going to list some scenarios, and you're going to tell me if it's a turn off or a turn on. He's heavy on the PDA. If he knows how to kiss, turn on. OK. He makes a special playlist for sex. Absolute turn on. Love that. Love?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
He gives you a hickey. where i was gonna say it depends where i don't need no shit on my neck but like right you know right um okay he waits for you to initiate sex it depends like you know we could take turns i agree i think if it's like he's always waiting it's like the same thing where it's like you need to reciprocate but i think it's In moments, it's hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
So first you're like, he decks out this plane. You're on this gorgeous PJ. You're like, okay, my man is like really spoiling me. Then he's reading you a goddamn love letter. And you're like, I am so in love with you. Like already you're happy. You're ready to go. Exactly.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
I agree. I agree. He wants to have phone sex. Hey.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
I fucking love you. I'm dead. Okay, he doesn't manscape. Oh, you're like down. I love this. Okay, he's very vocal during sex.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
love love love i don't need a mute ass bitch like love pipe it up pipe it up yeah love okay he loves sex with the lights on i mean it's not what i prefer but i like a vibe like i am not trying to fuck when it's like this light well actually i guess this lighting would be like hot this is cute but there's cameras and everything you're like candles or like yes
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Like I don't want it to be pitch black where you're like, you can't see me and I can't see you because that's what... Sometimes that's fun too though because like... Oh, I agree.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
That is such a good point because I never do that. But I forget what Matt and I were doing, but there was a reason it was pitch black and we're like... It's kind of hot. Yeah. But I don't want that every time. Right. And again, if it's bright. Again, balance. Balance. Balance. Like natural daylight, kind of hot. But it's like, yeah. Okay, balance. He lasts for an hour before he comes.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
I think an hour for me, I'd be like, babe, come on. Come on. Every experience is different. When he's like, actually, I'm down for four hours and count me the fucking.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
He wants to watch porn together. Hot. So hot. Yeah. Very hot. Okay. Let's talk about your brand, K-Skin. Can you talk to me? Like, I know that you started it after getting a very bad sunburn on a job. But like, what has been the most rewarding part of starting your own brand? Yeah.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
But it's around Valentine's Day. So you're already just feeling like... It was the day before. Okay. So it's like romantic. You're feeling the vibes. And then... How does he pop the question?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
I mean, I feel like that's when people feel like the best brands that people create are when you're actually filling something that you personally need. I feel like it's obvious when you see people in the market where it's like, that was just because someone told them to do it, rather than it's like, oh, this is something you're living and breathing and you need it.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
And you can feel that through your brand, which is incredible.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Of course. What is your best skincare tip that you can share with the girlies watching?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Do you put it on? No, I know. I just try not to go outside. But still, but still. Okay. You know, I saw someone recently post on TikTok and they were like, what fucking step are we putting it on if you're doing a full beat? Okay. Tell me. Got you.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
layer my products and then i will finish my skincare let that sink in do my spf let that sink in and then that's like the biggest step that's changed my life recently is like i used to be like boom boom boom boom boom then i'm like what's happening it's like i now like will do my first primary skincare and then i go and get my coffee yeah then i come back that's the simmer in the spirit you know it needs to like sink in absolutely and then you okay this is i'm
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
See, we needed you. I got you, girl. Yeah, this is good. You got rejected at one point from a job at Sephora and now K-Skin is literally sold there. What full circle does that mean to you when you found out that your product would be in Sephora?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
I'm sorry, but we have to get right into it. You just walked in here and I'm blinded by your hand. You just got engaged. Congratulations.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Last question. What do you wish more people knew about you?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
I just have to say thank you so much for coming on. That was...
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
so fun to sit down with you again like every time this was so much fun it was because i feel like we may meet at some point like at like a party in la or whatever but to get to sit down we have so much in common and especially like our recent lives it was so incredible to sit down with you and get to know you more today and i'm happy that my audience is going to get to know you more too and congratulations again i like keeping like look at her eyes but i'm like oh my god that rock is so
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Okay. First of all, that is so fucking cute. And were you guys alone or was your family around you?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Oh, so you had no clue that you were about to land. So you thought you were going to have this like weekend getaway with your fiance and then you land and it's like your mom and everyone is there. Oh, that's so special.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Okay. I am now convinced because I feel like we have a lot of overlapping in our engagement stories.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Yeah, yeah. Because now I'm like really vibing with this and I'm like, if any man still watches Call Her Daddy or whatever woman is forcing you to watch the show, take notes because- Take notes. I think the concept of having an alone moment with your partner and having the privacy and intimacy of an alone moment.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
He made the right decision by you guys got to have that time alone, a couple hours on your own. And then once it sinks in, then you want to be with the people you love most. Absolutely.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Tell me the story. I need to know like how he did it, how it happened. Tell me everything.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
that is like the perfect combination perfect because then i'm sure like how i felt in that moment i'd love to hear how you felt on the plane ride was like matt did it at our house and it was so romantic and i was in such shock that i kept being like i've got to call my mom i've got to call my mom and dad and he was like we'll call them in a minute let's have some champagne babe like and i was like you're right okay right you're like i need to tell my parents and then i'm like did you ask my parents and he was like yes
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
And I'm like, no, no, no. He's like, I promise they said yes. And like, I'm going through all this. So he's trying to calm me down. So in hindsight, I'm like, poor Matt is like, bitch, they're already fucking waiting for you. Like, just enjoy the moment alone with me.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
And Kyle actually set the whole thing up. no okay that's actually i'm gonna hype your man up for a second yeah babe that is next level shit to be like i'm gonna think about my girl's nails to the point where i am going to fly out her nail tech the trusted person that does her nails so she feels so gorgeous okay okay kyle now you're just like making everyone look bad nuts Holy, that's so nice.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
You don't even know. Wait, okay. So I want to hear though about the ring because I feel like this is just like such fun girl stuff that like some people grow up wanting it. Some people don't. But when it happens, it's so beautiful. And it's such a moment that you like can cherish forever. The ring is... It's so stunning.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
There's not words. But can you tell us, like, did you talk about engagement? And if you did, did you give him ideas of what you wanted as a ring? Or is this, like, full surprise he did this on his own?
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Okay, that is like, I agree. I think, listen, there's going to be girls out there where it's like, for the love of God, do not let your man pick the ring if your life depends on it because he can't even like put two of the same colored socks on in the morning. He's going to pick a horrible ring. And I love the girls that are like,
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
well thought out attention to detail exactly and then for the rest of the weekend in turks like what would you say with your family and your friends and now your fiance like what was your favorite moment of the like weekend proposal moments like after the proposal because i was like that you're like that once you got there with your family
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Those moments where you're like, no, I thought that this was enough. And now this, like, you've got to be kidding me.
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Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
It's so beautiful. And I love engagement stories. But I want to rewind because from what I've read, Kyle had to shoot his shot twice with you. Like you would at one point, you wouldn't even give this man the time of day. I'm like, this is so lovely. I'm like, Winnie, this is pure love. Let's start from the beginning. Yeah. You basically ghosted this fucking man. What happened?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I love though that you, like I would be interested to see what the internet would say. It's like, but was the orange juice your fault?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I'm sorry, but the thought of being on a fucking boat on LSD, I've never done LSD, but like it sounds fucking horrible, Chelsea. Yeah. It sounds like a fucking nightmare. Only you are like, woo!
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
And I could see you on a boat with all those people whale watching, like you'd want to fucking kill yourself.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Okay, I'm going to ask you situations and you're going to tell me what drug you would want to do in the situation.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Girls trip in Ibiza. Molly. Waiting in line at the DMV. Oh, God. I guess pot. Pot. A first date. Just alcohol. Okay. Your sister's wedding. Molly. Watching The Notebook.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Yeah, let's move on. Okay. Grocery shopping. Don't do it. You don't go ever. I try not to. Okay. Niece's high school graduation.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Wait, so you're taking a Vicodin right now? Absolutely. I've never had one. What does it do? You want one? No, no, no. You should have one, actually. Should I?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
and she had a great time the good thing about getting drugs from you is one I know you've already tried them two you're rich so I feel like you are sourcing the best shit and I feel like I'd be safe with you like I wouldn't feel like oh god I'm gonna have a bad trip because this is laced with something like I feel like you're really you know you're doing yeah I know what I'm doing yeah I have I was once I mean this is a little segue but I'll take it okay um I
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I'm inviting myself. I heard that. I feel like you have a big enough house I could kind of like. You could come to Mallorca. Yeah. I'll give you the house for a week.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I want to be there with you. I know.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
You're like, yeah, here's the keys. We'll set a date. I'm not there.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Do you do anything when you're skiing? Yeah, all the time. Oh. Edibles, smoke pot. Is it true that you fucked your ski instructor?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
No, no, no. This is good. You look gorge. I know. Thank you. I loved your interview with Amy. Oh, that was fun.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
They looked a little sexy and then they're a little not because they take off the gator and they take off everything. And you're like, that's not what I thought you were.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
That was a good time. And she brought her like feet with no fucking nail polish.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
That's pretty good. But you were able to cut it off.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
But I also have to just say, I appreciate that the thing that got you to be like, damn, like you're so good as me asking if you pity fuck people often. You're like, Alex, you are the next big thing. But okay, let's talk about pity fucks because I've pity fucked.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
What is the best one night stand you've ever had?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
You know what I mean? I think that's how people feel with an actual affair, sadly.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Can I ask, you've talked about how sex has gotten better as you've gotten older. What has gotten better?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Is that how you feel about what I wore when I interviewed the vice president? I wore a big fucking hoodie and everyone was giving me so much shit for it. Like how, why didn't you dress up for that?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
i i now i know it so like you're you're lucky to be fucking me and that's what makes it sexy every woman needs to clip that from themselves when they're about to go out on a date night we'll make that a tiktok because it is very inspiring when you just said that like it seems simple but then i get it when i think back to when i was having sex in college i was like thinking of everything but actually enjoying myself so
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
No, we don't need to know anything about him, but tell me about you. When did you meet him? How are you feeling?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
How does that happen? Because I feel like so many people know people that they would like to have sex with, but then if you didn't do it immediately, it's like, how did you bridge the gap? Did you initiate? Did he initiate?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
The mic didn't just hit. She's like, I'm in the sky.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Okay. We're not smoking today.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Okay, let's pretend you're not dating someone. Okay. And I'm going to describe a man for you and you're going to let me know if you would date him. Okay. Take a little sip. Mix the alcohol with the Vicodin. Let's see if it gets weirder. I hope my doctors are listening to this. Is it going to be a problem that you're getting surgery tomorrow and you're drinking?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Okay. He's rich and successful, but only flies economy to save money. And not like first class, like back of the plane.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I do too. But I'm not flying economy with him. Totally. Love that. He's built like Jason Momoa, but he's scared of your dogs.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Like in memory of what we've done in the past.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Period. He's been healed through therapy, but he refuses to go down on you. No, no.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Is it like a hard thing for you if they're horrible? Do you teach or you just get rid of them?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I agree. A bad kiss makeout is... It's kind of unforgivable. Yeah. You can't kind of come back from that. I agree. Okay, he makes you laugh harder than anyone, but he hates that you're funnier than him.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
These are great questions. Thank you. It's really sparking a debate. He's your best friend, but his best friend is his mom.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Okay, have you ever fucked a mama's boy?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Exactly. So like I still dabble with this, edibles, this, but I'm not like snorting a line today.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I thought you were just going to say my dad wasn't that impressive.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I never wanted to fuck my dad. I wasn't that attractive to my father. We're not interested in fucking our dads over here. That's a fabulous answer. Thank you. Okay, he's tall, dark, and handsome, but his whole Instagram is selfies.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Yeah, like imagine you walk into your bathroom and he's like shirtless taking a picture.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
You being on Raya at a point in your life, have you ever fucked a DJ?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
That is very good to clarify. I feel like I could see you fuck a DJ.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I was having this debate with someone the other day, though. Would you rather be really good at singing or be funny? I would rather be funny. Yeah. Not that that's, you know, they're not great. I'm just saying, like, I'm basically trying to hype you up in the process. It's okay that you're basically so fucking awful at these things. You're funny.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I do. I'm not hitting it like I used to. I used to have a bong in my apartment.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
And this one lasts kind of forever. Anyways, now that we're comparing. Okay, you've been on your healthy therapy journey, I feel like. But before that, what was your most toxic trait in a relationship? Like, give me tangible. I know you're a fucking eagle with your legs spread, but what were you really toxic with?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
You're both such huge personalities and picturing you together. I'm trying to picture a conversation between you two. And I don't. Like I read his Instagram captions, for example.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Okay, what's the most unhinged thing you've ever done during a breakup?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
The fact that that's a break. And how did you tell him you were giving this to him?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I mean, the fact that that will stick with him forever and you have nothing to remind you of him. That's beautiful.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I love being you. I love it! Chelsea Handler, welcome back to Call Her Daddy. How many times have I been here? Three. This is the third. I love it. Do you know what's happening?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Yeah, you're going to tell me the big thing soon, right?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Let's talk about our dogs. What is the most elaborate thing you've ever done for your dogs?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. No, she's already talking shit. Get in here!
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
No, you don't know. No, I do. I do. No, sit down.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Dude, did you go back out there and like take a harder glance?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I mean, I never know what's happening with you. I just know that there's always a lot happening. So I'm moving and this is like the original studio. I don't know if you've ever seen it, but like we film in here all the time. But you're getting what I would consider like a nice moment because we're kind of like saying farewell to this space. Oh, good. I love that.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I love that. Is this a lawn chair? Yeah, this is like a long soccer mom chair.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Because you don't get the nice high-end chairs that we used to have in here.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
And I obviously started laughing because I was like, what the fuck do you even say to that? We're literally talking about our dogs and you're just like taking it that aggressive.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
That is... That's a pretty wild moment, though, to have someone scream in your face like that. But I feel like you handled that well.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
The dog parks are not for the weak. Like I went once and my dogs got some type of rash.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Chelsea. I don't. You cuddle with them.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Okay, what do you think of dogs with food names? When people name their dogs like macaroni, noodles, chickpea. That's annoying. I like, my dog's name is Doug. My dog's name is Henry and Bruce. Exactly. Exactly. Like, treat them as such. Yes. When you're like, when they call them a different animal. Like, oh, skunk. And you're like, why are you calling, you know what I mean?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
It is crazy some people that are – I've had a person come to my house and say, like, we're going to discover their personality. And I'm like, shut the fuck up.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Take the 200 bucks and, like, teach him to do paw.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Okay, we're gonna play a game to kick this off.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I've had that where you're like, look, you're given a little blowy and you see from the side eye, you're like, I'm like Bruce.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
i've had that also where i'm like getting eaten out and i like look over and he's just staring like liking it a little too much and i really or the worst is like i push them off the bed immediately i'm not gonna kick them out of the room i think people that are like they can't even be in the room i'm like my dogs are one dog is running to the corner the other one is like getting a little rambunctious and wanting to hump and it's freaking me out we cut his balls but the problem is he likes the smell
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
We're just because like, you know, unlike you and Amy, like some people need to loosen up. You don't need to loosen up at all. Although I'm excited to see how this Vicodin hits.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Of sex? Yes. So of your Pikachu? He likes the smell of that. How do you know that? Because after, he's like smelling the sheets insane. Oh. We got a freak on our hands. Oh, wow.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
So that's what I'm dealing with.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Maybe you have an infection. I know that my vagina smells fucking perfect. Shut the fuck up. Worry about yourself and your fucking crooked arm. Bitch. Come for my vagina and I will cut you. Because that's what's going to trend. My crooked arm. My crooked arm. That's what people will say. I have a smelly vagina. No, no, no, no. But I don't want to get too defensive.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
So people are like, oh my God, you hit a sports ball. I think you already did. Oh, your breasts. Oh my God, my pills. Okay, your book comes out on your 50th birthday. How are you approaching your new decade?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I'm asking you if you want to keep this trend in 2024 or if you want to bring it into this year. Lookalike contests.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
wow that's a sister yeah like that's sisterhood she's I mean I met her once and I interviewed her and I was like happy I got my words out her like aura is so incredible and inspiring and as women I feel like I'm like wow I'm happy that I've gotten to like meet someone like that and now I'm happy that obviously we're friends and I've gotten to meet you love it do you have anything left to say give me the book throw me the fucking book don't you have it in your lap throw it
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I can't my shoulder. I want to say happy birthday to you. Chelsea's book is coming out on her 50th birthday date. February 25th. I knew that February 25th. Same as every year. The book is coming out. Daddy gang. If you want to laugh, if you want to cry, and if you want to fall more in love with, Wait, why is there nothing in the book?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Specifically this chapter where it said, what the fuck? No, Daddy Gang, go read the book. Chelsea, I love you. Love you too.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
You have to participate. Lookalike, no. What is that again? Timothee Chalamet, Jeremy Allen White. They've been doing like a lookalike. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't care about that, no.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Would you ever attend a Chelsea Handler lookalike contest? I doubt that. Would you be insulted? No, I just don't care. How do you feel about clean girl aesthetic?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
You kind of are giving clean girl aesthetic right now.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
But are you a pick-me girl? A pick-me? No.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
send me a plane but that's a good friend that you didn't even like want to take the offer some people would be like immediately jumping on that yeah yeah well I've been on a lot of planes so that's okay thank you though thank you but thank you for showing up yeah I did show up and now look what we're doing we've got your fucking poster with your head on it yeah I've got this I've got my unwell
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Do you wanna just do full promo and I'll just sit back and relax?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Here I am. I hear that when you shower, you only clean your hot spots, your vag, your butt, and your armpits. Is that true?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
There's no point to a shower if you're not really washing your hair.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
And I never smell. You smell amazing and you look amazing. I'm going to be honest. I do the same thing. You don't wash your legs. I have no reason to wash my kneecaps. I have no reason to like get the back of the calf. Like I don't get back of the calf.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I think you should keep doing exactly what you're doing. This is your seventh book. Yes. What the fuck? I mean, congratulations. But also, like, how do you still have so much to say?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
First of all, I do not. fly that way often i did that for you oh i thought the way to lure you in i was testing our friendship and then i wanted you to be like i'd take a bus for you i wouldn't take a bus for anyone let's be honest but i do i i i think flight attendants are some of
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
But don't you think it goes like family and then it goes friends and now you're like, fuck number seven, flight attendants. Next time it's going to be your mailman.
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
Next one goes to me. Okay, let's talk about traveling because you travel all the time. Yes. What qualities do you need in a travel partner?
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Chelsea Handler: Drugs, Dog Parks, & Dick Appointments
I feel like you have very specific requirements because you like the vibes high.
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Hallie Batchelder, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Daddy gang, welcome back to another episode of Call Her Daddy. I am so excited for you to watch this episode. We have Phoebe Gates and Sophia Chiani on this week's episode. They just launched their podcast called The Burnouts with Unwell, and they are our most recent sign to unwell.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
But I think it's beautiful that you guys have found this like perfect rhythm. Well, perfect. Yeah, you guys are still figuring it out, right? It's perfect.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
I'm kind of freaking out a little bit. Launch day for anyone that has a business, anyone first day of school, like a birthday party. I don't even know what the feeling is, but there's just this excitement and I want to get into everything. But first, I do though want people to get to know you better today.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
But I love what you said, Phoebe, because it's so real where, yes, people want whenever there is a duo. people want to be like, how is it not working? And the reality is if anyone's like, it's so perfect, just like a marriage, just like a friendship and a business relationship, nothing is perfect. And I think it's, there should be healthy arguments.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Like, and again, it's how you argue is the key factor. The fact that you guys have this like structure where you're like five minutes, let's get through it. That's so healthy.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
OK, Sophia, you have talked about feeling pressured to be the perfect immigrant daughter and have more of like a traditional stable career that you felt like at one point you probably would make your family happy if you went that way. Can you talk about how you ultimately decided to take the risk and go for something that wasn't as predictable and stable?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Because this is kind of like now your reintroduction to the world through the lens of Call Her Daddy and the Daddy Gang. So we're going to do it a little Call Her Daddy style. I want to go back to the beginning for you guys in terms of you two met at Stanford. You're in college. You meet. Can you tell me your first impressions of each other and how you actually met?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Can I ask, because obviously you guys sitting on this couch, you have such different backgrounds. And you, Sophia, talking about wanting to get scholarships and getting the scholarships and trying to figure out how to get in the door that way. And then Phoebe coming from a place of privilege and you both kind of like having this like beautiful opposite energy of where you both came from.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Like how have you guys like found an equal feeling to merge your independent lives and your backgrounds into one in a business? Yeah.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Phoebe, you coming from a place of privilege, your dad being Bill Gates, did you ever feel like it's been difficult to make a name for yourself and really like carve your own path and not just be like Bill Gates' daughter?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
obviously we've all seen like the nepotism conversation online and I think that's like there's not a right answer because if people are like what do you want them to say and I do feel that from you since the day I've met you like you're so hardworking you're so smart and yes you have this privilege but it's beautiful to see what you're doing with it in a
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
I guess what I would want to ask, because I know you're not saying you're like, feel bad for me. But like, how have you walked into rooms and in moments? How do you deal with it when you can feel someone's maybe not not not taking you seriously, but being like, oh, it's like Bill's daughter. Like, we'll just like take the meeting or whatever.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Like, have you how have you been like, no, I am an individual and I am smart and I do deserve to be here. Like, how do you push through those feelings of imposter syndrome, but then also knowing your worth? I think it's really about what Sophia said, bake it till you make it.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
I completely agree. I love also what you said about having women as mentors. women down if they're succeeding. And when you see a man succeeding, everyone's like, oh, that's so hot and attractive and go him. And when a woman is succeeding, it's like, well, she must have done something bad. Who did she fuck? Who did she fuck? Who does she know? Or who did it for her?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
And she's like just the face of it. Like there's they're always trying to tear it down. I think when men are assertive also in business, people are like, wow, this is so attractive and a great quality as where when a woman is assertive in business, she's considered a bitch. How have you guys navigated being women in business, being business owners and bosses and navigating all of it?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
I think it's easy because we're bitches. I know.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
We are hardcore bitches. I know. What if we all just start saying like, yeah, I'm the biggest bitch. I'm such a fucking bitch. Like, yup. And what else? Like it is kind of like, yeah, just own it.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
It's so fucking true. And hearing you say that, I'm just thinking about, like, how many women are listening to this episode right now and have tried to go in and advocate for themselves in the workplace, let's say. How many women have walked in and asked for something, whether it's a raise or fair treatment or whatever it be, and...
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
I know as a woman, because I've done it myself, we're always apologizing, like, sorry, like, I know you don't have that much time. And it's like a man would never walk in and feel anxious and feel like they have to kind of like placate the energy and kind of like also throw in a smile and also throw in like a compliment.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
And we as women, I feel like we have all these little cushions that we surround ourselves
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
the hard truth information that we want to deliver because as a woman we need to be graceful and we can't be a bitch and we want to come off as sweet and kind and not intimidating where a man is like i think i deserve the rave this is the things that i've done to deserve it and let me know if i if you can give me the raise or not i think that's a great piece of advice to women is maybe we need to start really thinking to ourselves
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
emotion yes it's what we've trained we've been trained to do since we were born but when it comes to business you are as deserving as the person out there with a fucking penis and so start moving forward and acting like that and be like you know what let me try it because i've been doing this recently and as scary as it is to wonder like oh my god is someone gonna call me a bitch i've just been way more direct running a business you have to be direct yep
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Is it scary? Fuck yes, because I'm also in a public situation where someone could go and be like, Alex is a bitch. I'm like, no, I just told you the job wasn't good enough. If that makes me a bitch, totally fine. But if it came out of Matt's mouth, you would have, if anything, been like, okay, damn, I want to go work harder.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
So I like this that you're saying of like firing people or being trying to be everything for everyone. You can't. So maybe we just need to start saying, fuck it. And if the word gets out that you're a bitch, okay, you're doing just fine. What has been the hardest double standard you guys feel like you've had to overcome together?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
If you guys are going to become fans of them today, I am just excited for you to listen to their chaotic stories, their best friends, their business partners, and they are officially unwell. The first time I ever met them was on a random Zoom. We had a mutual friend put us together. They were like, you guys are in complete different industries, but maybe you guys will hit it off.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
It's so true. And it's so crazy because that's not a one-off. It's wild you say that. I just had someone ask me the same thing. No way. We were talking about a specific thing for business that we were considering launching. And someone asked me about my timeline for kids. And I was like... Oh my God. And it's like, imagine ever asking a man that.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Listen, I get it that our bodies are going through something that the man doesn't have to go through. However, it's so inappropriate. And in my brain, when I have a kid, I'm like, Matt, we're 50-50 if anything. You're 70 and I'm 30 because I already have an extra fucking 100% that's on me anyways. So step up, buddy. Like, That is so crazy. Wow.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Do you have any advice for women in the workplace when they're dealing with this like kids timeline, all of it? Like obviously none of us have kids right now, but like how do you deal with it? Keep a win sheet.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Okay, you guys are obviously so well put together, but we're going to play a game called Have You Ever Been Unwell? I'm going to give you an unwell scenario, and you tell me if it has ever happened to you. Have you ever embarrassed yourself in front of someone famous?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Do you take his hand?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
You shouldn't stop talking about it.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
You're a model influencer. Speaking of famous people,
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
I'm not okay that you're like, Elton John. They're like, you dumb bitch. Okay. But you're learning. Yes, I am learning. Okay. That's good for you. Okay. Have you ever ghosted someone? Yeah. Oh yeah.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
That is kind of so genius. Although the fucking hospital one, I can't decide. Because I get if you say you're in the hospital, most teachers are going to be like, go fuck yourself. No, you're not. Like, where are the receipts? But then a selfie as opposed to just like the paperwork is fucking nuts.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Phoebe one time is like, how incredible?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
That girl, she works herself too hard. Dude, Sophia, you're fucking savvy over there. You're coming up with some good ass shit. Okay, let's talk relationship. Have you guys ever...
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
How long did each of you last with Alejandro? Literally like two weeks.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
And you guys were like the stepping stones. We were the stepping stones. You guys made him into a better man. We did. And now a deserving woman gets him. But you guys are happily in your relationships. Yes. Can you explain to me, because I'm sure people are fascinated, what is it like introducing a guy to your dad? What is it like introducing a guy to your dad?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
I think terrifying for the guy, for me, hilarious because my dad's like pretty socially awkward.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Such a good point. Wait, how are you and your dad different and similar?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Have you experienced this competitiveness?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
i guarantee right okay this crazy bitch anyways bye don't care that is you're like i wish i was in a suit and like really presenting but then honestly like look it worked out you guys are still in business together yes um okay let's talk about fia so by the time this comes out you'll have been one week launched one just tell me how much are you twitching to look at your phones right now very much i'm like i need to text fifth croft you guys literally just launched like how are you feeling
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Walk me quickly through. What do they do?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
I'm so excited for you guys. I'm excited for Fia. I'm excited for the burnouts. I think everything you guys are doing is so exciting. And it's so nice to meet people and get to know people that are so smart.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
in such a different field than me I think it's like very stimulating to listen to you guys and talk to you guys because I think what we've probably all recognized is there's so much through line between all of these different industries and when you think that you can't relate you're like oh there's all the same themes of being stressed staying up late at night like everyone listening is going to take something from this and it's inspiring to hear you guys talk about the story of
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
I love you guys. This was so fun. I feel like we got like a good amount of chaotic fun and also like really good advice. And honestly, like the hacks, the hacks that you brought. At journal request. No, it's crazy. Hashtag journal request. Everyone go become famous. We're going to be eating that up before this goes nice next week because then the hack is going to be dead.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
No, and we also need, we all need our own Kobe, okay? No, I love you guys. Thank you so much for coming on Call Her Daddy. This was a dream. You guys are amazing. Congrats.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
The fact that you guys kind of went from like enemies to lovers is kind of iconic.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
I love how Phoebe, you said, which I think is like a very relatable thing for women. It's like, OK, I was jealous and I thought she had all this. How did you go from feeling like competitive, jealous to all of a sudden being like, wait, I actually can like mutually have a good relationship with this person and not feel like I have to compete?
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
And one thing led to another, and we recognized, wait, you guys are launching a sustainable fashion company. You're young women in your 20s living in New York. You're figuring life out. Yeah, I want to listen to you guys and hear what you have to say. And so we launched their podcast. They also just launched their company called Fia, and they really have become quickly two of my favorite people.
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Because I feel like especially being at such like a high level school and you guys both wanting to have such successful careers, like where do you think the competitiveness kind of kind of died out a little bit?
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I am obsessed with you being like the moment I knew is when she was naked in front of the mirror, just really like relishing in her fake tan. Can you tell me the story, though, Sophia, of you made up in college that you had an assistant?
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That is so smart.
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Also picturing you writing as Kobe being like a thousand dollars and pressing send. I could see you out like panicking, walking around your room.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
They're so funny together. Their banter as business partners and best friends is everything. So without further ado, I'm so excited for you to get to know them. Let's get into it. What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Phoebe Gates and Sophia Chiani, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you for having us.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Also, the biggest factor that I took from this, which I wouldn't have thought of is like that you made it a man. Because when a man is like, no, this is like, it's just the world we live in. And it was so smart of you to be like, I'm going to advocate for myself through a fake man. And look how much I can get out of this fucking man. That's Kobe. That is genius. It's so sad. That's a good hack.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
It's a really good hack. If anyone is listening, boom, have a male fake assistant. Oh my God, this is genius. Do you guys have any other like hacks that you can share with the daddy gang in business that are like little tricks? On him.
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Sophia, I feel like that is so what people need to hear also today of like, Sometimes you just have to put yourself out there, even as like embarrassing as it can feel, even if you feel like you're faking it and you're just like getting yourself in the door because you are qualified and you do deserve. If people are going to pay you that amount of money, even though you felt awkward to ask for
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Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business
Can we talk about you guys then finally deciding to work together? Because you're obviously talking about like you guys had your things. You were talking pre-med. You're talking about all of this. Like then you guys eventually come to be like, I think we want to work together. Can you talk about how you decided? Like when did you guys come together and be like, let's make this?
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Phoebe and Sophia have been up since 2 a.m., 3 a.m.? 5 a.m. Okay, your company just launched today, Thea. How are you guys feeling?
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Was there any hesitation because you guys are now best friends to be like, we're actually going to get in business together or no? Was that no hesitation?
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Oh, we did our own and then we did each other's. Yeah. Getting in business with a friend is obviously like there is a risk, but I think it's also there's an upside to like it's kind of similar to maybe how I feel kind of with Matt where it's like you guys trust each other. We don't know how you do it with Matt. We talk about that all the time.
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I would go crazy. I think we just have found this like weird balance where we know how sacred both elements are. And it's like the minute we can tell one of us is like burnt out, we're like, let's stop talking about work. But we also just like it's our passion. We love it. Like I don't feel like it's work. So and then the minute it does feel like it's too much, then we're like, OK, stop.
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So you guys end. But was it like we're going to take a break, but we're still going to talk? Were you guys like completely done? Like, did you think this relationship is completely over? Like, what were the next steps after that kind of ended?
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And it was great, even with I mean, I think that first year was hard, but I was going to say, like, I think I remember like seeing things on me chronically online reality, Steve. I'm like, how do I even know that name? But I remember like when you guys were kind of in what seems like this in between, like I was going to ask, like, were you talking to other people? Was he talking to other people?
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Like, did you guys have an agreement? Like, it's okay if we hook up with other people?
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When you got back together, coming off of that, coming off of the dynamic on The Bachelor, like. Did you have a hard time trusting him?
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Obviously, you're going through a very, very public breakup right now. It's like not under the best circumstances that we're sitting down together. I think it was a shock to the world. We're going to find out today if it was a shock to you. But just like overall, how are you doing right now?
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So the first year was difficult, but then there's three years to come that, and again, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but like seemed like you guys were so happy. Every time I opened Instagram, you guys were in a new city or a new country and you were trying different foods and you were...
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You know, being thrown into these beautiful other cultures and experiences, and it just felt like you guys were on this whirlwind together. Like, how did that lifestyle of just constantly going and traveling together feel?
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I was going to say, like, from my understanding, obviously you spent four years together, but you never lived together.
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But did you have. any friends or your family be like, Rachel, how are you guys not living together yet? No, only because... The religious.
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When you say that you guys talked about engagement, do you mind sharing just like how detailed did you guys get? Like, did you talk about how many kids? Did you talk about where you like? Can you share? Yeah.
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When you look back at those conversations do you see any like patterns or themes of like when he would engage in it like was it when you were like you know what I mean like was there any like him engaging being like I want you to be the mother of my children like I want to have a wedding like do you did you ever see a pattern.
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That's tough. Because from what I'm hearing from you two, it's like you're again kind of like waiting for him to Yeah. Yeah.
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I think in a beautiful way, and this is what...
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I know we're about to get there but like just cutting to the other side of it for you is like I've been there where I felt the same exact way where I was like we he talks about the house in Westchester with me and we're like together but I still like nothing has happened yet like I can tell you now having a partner that it does feel super like 50 50 and everything with my husband like
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
I wasn't surprised at all when – oh, my God. His name is Matt, too. When Matt would, like, bring things up about future or, like, let's go ring shopping together, like, where in previous relationships I was. And I think I recognized because I had never had it, which I'm, like, hopeful for you to experience, of, like, it was – we were so in lockstep that – I could have gotten down on one knee.
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You know what I mean? And like I like so I think I get what you're saying. And I think a lot of women experience this where like we condition ourselves to believe like it is his decision at the end of the day. And I think.
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unfortunately like that's not how it should be yes the gesture for him physically getting on the knee is so romantic and fun but like you should still have a say in whether it's going to happen or not and not have to wait for someone yeah to do that for you yeah and i think a lot of women are going to be sitting listening to this interview being like fuck rachel like there may be women listening to this that are realizing right now rachel like they're in the same situation as you is like
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
He keeps saying these things. The words are there, but the actions aren't. Yeah. I'm curious, like, over the course of your relationship, we're talking about engagement. We're talking about a wedding. Did Matt ever express any doubts about your guys' future together?
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
I still don't know I think like time will tell and I think that he'll have to answer that and figure that out but obviously every couple like has their problems like no couple is perfect um for you and Matt like what would typically trigger an argument we really didn't
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Was there someone in the relationship that would like apologize first more often?
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And what you just said, one of my really close friends just went through where she was like, I'm always the one having to take accountability. And he's getting so mad at me if, like, I don't own it. But I'm like, we put, like... Am I?
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We're in this fight because you did this and somehow I'm upset and then I'm having to... That's like... that's not healthy that's not fair to you because when you look back why do you think you were so quick to take accountability and arguments even if it wasn't your own problem because he was just so like adamant that i have a hard time like admitting i'm wrong or taking accountability and so
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
I don't know if I'll ever know. The feeling of leaving an argument and not feeling like you both won. There is no winning. It's like, oh, God, we like you kind of said, like we came together and we saw that together. Like, how did you feel a lot of times when you would apologize? Like and then you walk away from that situation after like the 50th time? Like, did it start to weigh on you?
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Like, had you come out of a breakup? Were you chronically single? Like, what was your vibe?
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From what we can see online, when your relationship ended, you were in Tokyo together. What was the state of your relationship when you were going into that trip?
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So, OK, so we're in Tokyo. Everything's going fine. What happens?
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So he would do like a review if you guys got there of like food.
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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Rachel Kirkconnell, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
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Wait, Rachel, why did you feel so upset about like the menu not being good?
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And in the past, like, how does Matt usually respond when you are upset?
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So this happens and then is literally the next day the breakup. Yes. So you wake up the next morning. What are the vibes? Is he tense? Are you guys acting weird?
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And how do you feel in that moment? Like, do you have a pit in your stomach? Are you, like, something's off?
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weird but that's like the worst when i have people write in all the time they're like should i go for my friend and i'm like my advice is just prepare that it will never be the same so but i also like commend you for like going for it because then also you then the other side is you always have the what if like yeah would we have been perfect so i guess like hearing that though like
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In that moment, Rachel, were you like, vocalizing like anything in terms of like why have you why have you been so vocal like I've seen him on podcasts and he's commented in random like fan accounts being like engagements coming soon like he's been overly vocal more than you about like telling the world like oh it's coming like it's coming which like Is a little odd. I'm not going to lie.
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Like, in my opinion, I was like like how much he was speaking about it. And yet, like now what you're sharing for him to just like quickly be like, never mind. Like in that moment where you're like, then why have you been saying this? Why did two days ago you say I was like the perfect partner with you? I think because he.
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
Was there any part of you knowing how The Bachelor works that you were nervous at all that like this is something that ends in engagement after a couple of weeks of knowing someone?
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When you were hearing him say all of this to you, what was going through your head?
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At the end of this conversation, is it like, okay, so we're breaking up?
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He did this right before he knew you were having to go to the airport to fly from Tokyo to Atlanta.
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Yes, but it also doesn't take away from the fact, Rachel, that it seems like you were completely blindsided.
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Because without a doubt, it is one of the weirder cryptic. I mean, people on the Internet are like this is this is going to go down in history as like one of the weirdest Instagram breakup posts I've ever seen. Can you talk to me about like where were you when you saw this post?
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So we're going to get to that because I'm just thinking, one, was there any part of you on this –
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12 hour plane ride one that wanted to be like sir can I borrow your phone like were you I would have been like like just to even see like were you worried about what people were saying or no you were just still like oh no I was worried it's definitely yeah it was one of those things where maybe this ties into my insecurities from the very beginning but I just felt like there was going to be people like celebrating
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mad for you because you guys have been together for four years. You've traveled many times together. That man knows that your phone doesn't work on Wi-Fi on long flights.
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
I think that makes sense. And I don't like I think sometimes with The Bachelor, too, like people would be like, so you weren't going in for an engagement. Like, I don't think anyone goes in with that headspace. I think it's kind of more your situation where you're like, I'm throwing myself into this situation. There's no way I'm going to end up at the end.
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
like accept it I guess when breakups also happen I think one of the biggest mind fucks is like you're sitting there you're laying in your bed you're so upset and the one person that you like want yeah to talk to is the person that just hurt you yep who reached out first and like
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
Well, no, and I also just want to say, like, This is why social media is so confusing, because on one hand, I agree. It's like we probably wouldn't be sitting here if you didn't post that. But also it's like.
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
Knowing that you are going to at one point have to speak, and I think we kind of like we're talking about that before this of like maybe it is nice to just like sit down and even though it's still so fresh, like I think there's a chance you're going to look back on this interview and
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
in a year even six months and watch some of your responses and be like oh my gosh like I didn't see it then you know what I mean like everyone has that Rachel like I've literally done that in every relationship I've ever been in and so does everyone in the world like you are still in this like grieving period clearly and you're still even like
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
understandably like the way that you're defending him I'm not saying it doesn't he doesn't warrant it it's actually just like when you're getting out of a relationship you're still kind of in the relationship yeah like that you were together for four years it's what been what two weeks one week yeah not even not even two weeks yeah not even two weeks so it's like I think a lot of this is
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
On one hand, there's the part of that me feels bad of like we're having this so fresh that like, of course, you're not going to have like all the answers or the insight or whatever. But I do think hopefully this conversation is going to like alleviate you from... Listen, Bachelor Nation is amazing. They're also very intense.
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
And I feel like every single thing you would type would get picked apart. Like there was no... We talked about this. There wasn't going to be like a perfect Instagram post or caption or comment you could leave that would like leave people feeling... Like, they have an understanding.
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Not that they deserve it, but they feel like they do because of the way that your guys' relationship started so publicly. So I think it's this, like, mixed bag of emotions. When you were finishing, like, that call with him, like... Where did you guys leave it? Like, what did you say?
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Did you guys talk about like, are you going to do no contact for a little bit?
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In your head right now, like, if you're being really, really honest with yourself, do you think there's any chance you guys ever get back together?
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dissect what you've been saying and they're going to judge certain things you've said they're gonna try to analyze things you've said um i've even been trying to do it i'm like oh i have an opinion on that and that but then i'm also like it's not my life this is your life and i also again recognize like this is so fresh for you i do just have to say in the most painful way and i don't think the way he did it was right i do think you're gonna look back
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And you are going to be so fucking grateful that he posted not how he did it, not the way he did it, but the fact that he did it and put it out there. Because I think we all can feel it when there's love and when there's history and when there's not something huge that happened of like cheating or whatever. It's so hard not to go back.
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
It is easier to go back than to stay away because it's your comfort. It's the person that you love. It's the person you've cried with. It's the person that you've envisioned having kids with and a life with and a marriage with and a wedding with and all the best things that come with life. You've pictured it with this person. You've spoken about it with this person.
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So the fact that you now have to be kind of just cut off from this, I do think it will be a blessing for you, Rachel, that like
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you will look back and be like i don't know anyone that maybe would have been as strong if if that post didn't go up to not go back you know what i mean because like you said you're like i don't know if he did it in the heat of the moment i couldn't really tell if we were really breaking up in that moment or if he was just angry like you do deserve someone that without a doubt wants to be with you and wants to start a life with you and wants to build a family and all the great things and you're right it doesn't make him a bad person but
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Just from like another woman sitting across from you, like why I said like it will be interesting what you if you look back on this in six months, it's like. There are a lot of things you're saying that.
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as a girl sitting across from you i'm like babe stand up you deserve so much fucking better and it doesn't mean he has to be then deemed a dick it's just like objectively you deserve so much better like you annoying him or he not like all these little things that i know we're only getting like basically one percent understandably you're not gonna like share your whole relationship but like
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you deserve so much better and you should not have to feel like you're in doubt you should not have to feel like you are second to him and like there's a power imbalance like you shouldn't have to feel like that and I know I don't need to like preach to you but I just want you I can tell you It's hard right now.
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
I also think to everyone listening and even us having this conversation right now, I almost started crying when you were like, like those like children that we envisioned creating together, like no longer will exist. Like it's devastating. Like it's absolutely heartbreaking.
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They're like, let's ramp it up, like either make out or get in a fight. And you guys like, but Waffle House.
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But I also think when you get broken up with and you're forced to move forward, I think you're going to have a lot of beautiful reflection, not even on that relationship, but of yourself. Like,
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even just like in the past almost two weeks like has there been anything that you looked at where four years is a long time like do you think there's any part of yourself that you compromised or you lost within that relationship because when you're in a partnership you do compromise yeah I'm sure um
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No, I get what you're saying. Like just to back you up there, like a lot of what you've shared with me today is like a lot of it's been on Matt's terms. It's like, if it's good for Matt, then you're being a supportive partner. But at what point is it like, what does Rachel want? And like, why don't you get to call some of the shots? And like, what would make you happy?
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And like, why are you having to beg him to do certain things? And then when he ever wants to do things, you're like, I'm ready to go. Like, I think that's where I can feel it. Every woman in America watching this is going to be like, Rachel, I cannot wait. And I know this is so premature to even be saying, but like you've said it to your friends before.
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We've all said it to our friends when they go through a breakup. And because I've lived it and you're about to live it where it's like.
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you're gonna feel the difference when you meet a guy that is all about you and has no doubts and it doesn't take away from what you and matt had but like you are like he said you are so beautiful and smart and interesting and you're like a great person i can already tell we just met and i'm like you're great you're great someone's gonna be so lucky and
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that is how you should feel in the relationship where it's like reciprocal not you keeping like wait wait for me like wait what about that like you deserve that everyone deserves that again it doesn't make him a bad person but maybe this is like the biggest blessing that needed to happen in order for you to finally find that partnership that is 50 50 where you do feel like you have a voice of value and you get to stand up for yourself in moments be like hey no
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I don't need to take accountability because why are we having this conversation? Because you made me upset over this. So you know what I mean? It's like little things that will come and I'm still working on it and I'm married. You know what I mean? So it's like, it's tough though. Why did you want to speak on this today?
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I know I've spoken a bunch, but like, why did you want to speak on this today?
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No, I really appreciate you being so open because I'm aware like if we had this interview even in like a year from now, I bet if I asked you these same exact questions, maybe 75% of the answers could be really different, which is the beautiful part of life and time of you just being like you're in it right now.
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You're in the grieving stage and slowly more things are going to become more apparent to you. And I really respect how...
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thoughtful you're being about the way you speak about him and I think daddy gang listening like once you go through a breakup now you get to just fully focus on yourself and I know that I am excited for that yeah and I know probably feels weird a little bit because you've been in a partnership where for four years it's been like me and him me and him but now I think in a fun way it's like taking this and knowing all the things of how he didn't make you feel good or when moments where you felt like shit and then the good yeah and I
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basically know like what you want next in a partner I'm sure there's things that you're like oh I have to have that Matt had that one thing of whether he's funny or whether it's that and you're gonna look for that but then let's be real you got a list now of things that you're like I will not put up with that in my next relationship as you should yeah as you should
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Is there anything else just in terms of whether it was like rumors that you wanted to just like dispel that you've read that you're like, wait, that's so not true that you were like, should we just put an end to it?
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girl advice don't let him keep coming back in I so know what you mean by you want to be friends because how can you envision a world not only not him being your friend but like without him I get that you're gonna make me cry no I know I'm gonna cry because we've all been there it's like it's unfathomable to be like Matt's not in my life anymore but what I will say is like
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from experience i feel like sometimes the person that ends the relationship has the guilt like there's guilt that and he keeps calling you to check in and unfortunately it's going to be on you to have to be like one he's moving on right but he's also checking in on you yeah it's gonna prolong you being able to actually be like okay I have to cut ties.
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And sometimes it does take no contact because it's like, how can you have someone in your life that you did everything with? You loved all of it and still be cordial while you're trying to move on. I don't I don't think that it doesn't mean you can't in a couple of years like see each other out or at a bar and so be cordial and
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But I promise you the best part. And everyone that's gone through this, you know what I'm talking about is like you're literally like, no, I literally can't live without him. Like, how is my life going to go on? Like, he's my best friend. He's my everything.
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And then when you do no contact, all of a sudden. Whether you're like at the nail salon one day or you're walking down the street or you're at a friend's birthday party or having a wine night with your girls, you're going to like smile to yourself and you're like, oh, my God, I haven't thought of him in like weeks. I haven't thought of him or even if it's days. You know what I mean?
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Like it's slow wins. But then all of a sudden. you move on. So thank you so much for coming on. You are such a sweet person. And I'm really, really, really sorry that this happened to you. But like I said, like, girl, girl, girl, we're getting back out there. Yeah, it is only the beginning. Well, thank you for having me. Appreciate it. Thank you so much.
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Yeah. Like you knew if we step outside of this, I still feel like no matter if anything, like there's a chance you were excited to get out of that to like live real life.
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Right. Obviously, your guys season ended pretty unconventionally. You got the final rose, but Matt didn't propose. How did you feel about that decision?
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I think that like why I especially want to talk to you today and what we're going to get into, though, is like even you just saying that is so relatable. Like probably everyone watching this has been through a breakup and a breakup is like not linear where you're like one day like, oh, my God, I'm perfect again.
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So like I appreciate you being honest because breakups are so emotionally devastating and hard, especially if you're the one getting broken up with.
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I'm dying. They're literally breaking it down. They're like, fuck you guys. We wanted him down on one knee. But what I do like, I think a lot of people respect about that is like, we've all seen like people on social media now and everything is like less romanticized as maybe it was back in the day because of social media.
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And we get kind of like glimpses behind the scene of like what actually reality TV is not. So reality moments. But I do think there was a level of respect maybe people had of like, Wow. If anything, maybe that means he and her will actually work out because they're literally going to do even more work off camera now rather than we have seen couples be like, yay.
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And then they like don't even last two weeks past it. So I think that there was a sentiment of like maybe he is more real for making that decision in the beginning.
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Rachael Kirkconnell: I Was Blindsided
us one day getting engaged for us and not for an audience and not for people that like won't care in a week or two yeah obviously then you guys film and then as the show was airing some controversial photos of you came to light and during the final episode matt basically made it pretty clear like he was going to take a step back from the relationship what was really going on with you guys
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Dude, whoever the fuck was peaked, okay? That's kind of true. Right? Whoever was so banging hot, they're not... They're not doing too well.
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I love that. I was going to say now I need to go Google that.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
But that's the shit though, Chapel. That's like...
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how crazy the shit that sticks with you like girls can be so fucking cutting when you're that young boys too but girls it's like you almost like care more in moments where you're like I'm pretty and anyone if like you don't get it it's like that is like the big they're trying to insult you this isn't like a nice but you're like and then you wrote that obviously banger ass song and now you're making fucking money off of it so it's true it is like the bad things that happen to me I can monetize
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And when you do that though when you publish it do you feel like finally like you've expunged your soul of all that negativity or does it still slightly hang on when you have to perform those songs?
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
But it's so telling. It's so embarrassing. It's like you want clout. How lame is your life? You want clout. You have to sleep so well at night knowing that, though, of like, ooh, and I still get to monetize off this. Loser. Loser. Bye. How do you decide when you have people call you Chapel versus Kaylee?
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Bitch. And Britney. You can't say Hannah Montana to me and me not need a minute.
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the wig in the first episode then when they changed it so good it's still like i look back on that and i'm like they really didn't know if that shit was gonna pop off and then it was like the biggest fucking thing ever but that first wig is so telling they're like let's just fucking see if this shit works and then boom did you go to the concert i went to the um one where it was miley and hannah so she starts as hannah and then she transitions to miley is that the jonas brothers opened
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
I remember. Kansas City. I remember that was the point when the Jonas Brothers weren't that big of a deal. And I was so annoyed that they were on stage. And my dad was like, one day you're going to have a crush on one of these boys. And I was like, I reject that. I'm disturbed by these men. And then I obviously like fell in love with them like a couple of years later.
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And I was saying that shit in my head. I couldn't get on board. And then, yes, Hannah at that point. Do you remember East Northumberland High, Good and Broken, you and me together, bitch? I made music videos to that shit. I was religious.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Yes. Okay. I'm going to ask you, give me the first song that comes to mind when I tell you this. Ready? Favorite song to belt out in the shower.
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Thank God I didn't make it. Maybe it is so much better because imagine if you were like... Not that it's bad to come from The Voice, but the story is better without The Voice, right? Yeah. Your come up is just a little bit better. Yeah. Okay. The song that belongs on every workout playlist.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Dude, that fucking man just being like, really want to do this with me? He's like, are you sure, honey? You're like, no, but let's fucking do it. And I was like, I don't know. I'm up here. Hurry up before I fucking leave, dick. That's hilarious, though. Like, do you ever get moments like that of anonymity where you get to, like, feel like people actually don't know who you are anymore?
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How like humbling when all of your fans are like, queen, slay, you look gorgeous and then you're home literally scrubbing your asshole and you're like, this is my life.
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That is fucking hilarious, though, that other celebrities are like, bitch, look at what you did. It's a force field.
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You're like, I'm actually in the middle of breaking up with someone or getting cheated on right now. Spare me. Yeah. Take a picture all the way across there of the back of my head and post it.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Anyway, sorry. I fucking love you. Okay, you wrote your song at Pink Pony Club about the Abbey here in Los Angeles. True or not true? Yes, true. Why are you looking away from me?
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Wait, okay, so tell me about the night or the story. Is that the story? But tell me about, I've never gone to the Abbey because everyone's like, it's not even good anymore. It used to be good. Now it's not good anymore.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
now because my phone is gonna get fucking stolen and your phone cannot get stolen i mean would you care no no yes you would no i don't care really there's nothing on your fucking phone they can't get into it it's like you're the one that has like the 17 number password not the four okay how do you feel about a dance floor makeout I look the other way.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
I fucking love it. Okay, how do you usually though dress on a chill day? Like are you always going hard glam? Are you always having an outfit?
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Okay, before you were famous, would you be down or no?
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The only way I feel like for a dance floor make out is to be drunk or on drugs.
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You've gone so many different places. What has been your most like chaotic night out on tour or even just like on the road?
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Are you a lap dance girl? Like, what are you? What's your vibe?
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I remember, like, the last time I was at a strip club, I remember just, like, staring at them in awe. And I was like, I hope... They don't think this is creepy, but, like, I'm genuinely just so fascinated by how you're doing that. Because, like, my neck hurts and my back hurts watching you do that. You're fucking incredible.
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Cheers to the girls. How has your... relationship to your sexuality evolved over the years?
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Do you want to be or you're not feeling like you're missing anything?
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the chapel roan moments because then you're like you're saying you're feeling it on stage you're like enjoying yourself you're feeling sexual then you're going home as kaylee and being like i just don't want to enjoy that like are you ever like fuck am i sacrificing my real moments of being able to find myself and embrace my sexuality for people and my art i resent myself for i resent the job
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Isn't it so annoying when you're like, I don't even want to deal with these comments or these looks, so I'm going to just like...
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
So this is like one of the later interviews I've done. Are you a night person?
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Chapel Roan, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you. I am so happy to be meeting you. I'm such a fan. So this is like a very cool moment. How are you doing tonight? I'm good. I have to tell you, everyone always wants to do like early interviews. I'm not a morning person.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Do you feel like you're usually... in the position where the person you're seeing is in the power position or are you in the... I'm getting a little bit of a vibe here, Chapel, that maybe you're not... Not in power?
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
I just want you to know that that clip is going to replay in people's mind because that is the most relatable fucking thing anyone has ever said sitting in that fucking chair because I have done the same fucking thing.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Yeah, rewind to your friends having fucking kids. You said they're in hell. But they're in hell because they love their kids. Have your friends ever successfully set you up with someone?
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Yeah, but this is life. Are you kidding me? I've been fucking dragged through the mud by a man. And I'm just like, but I still love you. And it's like, dumb bitch. He is literally giving you every fucking sign and more. And you're still like, I'm just reading into it wrong. He didn't mean that. Yeah, he did. You're like, I see the best in them. It's like, no, you stop. Stop. Stop.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
You're disgusting. I look back at my younger self. I'm like, you need to be done. Go fucking sell a bit.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
you didn't know i know it's so fucking sad wait are you a good wing woman like in the sense of helping your friends like find people no no okay i don't want to try i don't try i'm not i don't want to ever sign anyone up i think people should be single okay i'm assuming you're single right now imagine you're like i'm actually so in love imagine you fucking look at me and you go two years in babe never been better
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Wait, are you single? No. You're fucking lying. Wait, are you single? No. You're fucking lying. No, you're lying. You're fucking lying to me right now. Chapel? How long? Six months. Is it casual? No. Serious. It's serious.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
I'm like, rewind, bitch. You can't just drop that shit and be like, but anyways, be single. And any next question? I love being single. But you're not. But even if I was, I'd be okay.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Being single is the most incredible time in your life to actually be so fucking selfish so that the next time you get into a relationship, you know, you're like, I'm never going to put up with this anymore because guess what? Doing this shit by myself is better. So unless you're making my life better, fuck right off.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
okay come on what's the question how did you meet their friend but it wasn't a setup okay just like yeah i just like at a who made the first move me i'm usually the one to make i like in every circumstance i make the first move can you explain to me how you start the dating process with someone like are they are you having to have them come over to your house are you going out in public
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
I understand that now because I've interviewed like enough people to have that conversation in a healthy way. I think is you have to find a way to actually know who you are when the lights and the cameras and everything go off like who you are.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
That's, like, why I can't... You're like, I guess we're getting married. No, I don't. Lucky for you.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
I have and I cannot tell you what my fucking number is because I did it so long ago. I think I'm an eight. Are you going to walk out on me? I'm an eight. No. That's rare. I remember taking everyone thought I was going to be a two. What the fuck is a two?
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
that's iconic do you like me more now i i am you're gonna say you love me yeah we're both eights what is like a seven a seven is someone who's like the enthusiast like someone who's just like woo party i just want to have a good time maybe that's what i am the enthusiast what's it what's nate called the challenger i'm the challenger that's me dude that's me what the fuck that's cool that's why i'm like pointing at people on the red carpet i'm like the challenger
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
And if you look the same exact and you act the same exact as you do on stage, then there is no separation and there's nothing that you can keep private for yourself and protect. So that makes sense as you've tried to kind of like give yourself basically your private life. Yeah, yeah. Okay, you refer to yourself as a Midwest princess. What is the most Midwestern thing about you? I...
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
it was like princely or something like that it was crazy did you did you were you even into her or you're just like yeah she was so pretty and then yeah and then i threw up outside and i was like actually this is so dumb like what am i doing did you wake up the next morning with the scaries or were you like victory i was just like yeah shame on you you weaponized gay
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Okay, but it made for a good fucking story on Call Her Daddy. Do you have any immediate deal breakers? Car shit. Yeah, you really... This car shit is not... Something happened to me.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
oh my god that freaks me out or treat if they treat their waiter bad i will never talk to them the same i feel like people always whenever people are like oh that's a like obvious but i'm like no but i feel like when it's rare but when it happens it is like so fucking crazy and you sit there and you're like clenching your body like you hear about this in the movies and it's fucking happening in front of my eyes get the fuck out of here you freak
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
You know what I mean? Is there anything they could be into that you're like, no? You're like, I can't say that. I can't say that. Okay, let's talk about your new song, The Giver. What is the story behind it?
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Okay, great. So you're just up. I'm up. You're with me right now. I am. Good to know. Okay, good to know. Talk to me about what you are wearing. This is everything. How did you pick this?
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
No, it's so fucking sad. I was in the same position. I stayed in a relationship and I literally would just lay there and be like, I think he actually thinks he's hitting the clit and like he's at like the bottom of my labia. But do you tell him to go up?
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
I in moments would but I would find like it's fucking hard because then they shut down and then they're like and then it's like oh my god I'm so sorry like your little fucking ego you piece of shit but no then then you're just like Jesus Christ and then you're like I literally really go in the shower and just fucking master me like God bless me in America yeah fuck but then eventually I started to get fucking vocal towards the end of like if you can't fucking find it in 30 minutes and
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Right. Like let's Uno reverse. We both, if you want to do it, I want to do it. And then they're like, no, no, babe, babe.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
because they're so fucking selfish is that what it is or do you think that do you think that men don't actually like vulvas i think they do you think they do like that i think they do i think they're terrified of their masculinity being threatened if they don't really know what to do because they're so fucking dumb so then they just are like uh i guess it's different with certain men have you hooked up with a woman
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
no should i yeah first of all yes matt but like sorry to cut you off no you're i'm i'm just saying i think that there's a different level of men depending on how fucking toxic masculinity they're working with because i think some men are just like i'm not fucking doing that then other men are like i really want to try but then they need to be taught but their ego has to be intact for them to be taught and then they can be taught trust me they can be taught
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
I think that's fair. I think a lot of people are. Do you like to give first or receive first with your partner? Give first. Okay.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
like both okay i like both a lot of like i feel like a lot of gen z is just facetime instead of call but like i i like both yeah depending on the vibe yeah late night or morning sex late night late night make the first move or be pursued make the first move back in the day drunk sex or high sex
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Have you tried the one that like pulsates and it's like the womanizer thing? Yes. It kind of just like pulsates on your clit. It's the best fucking thing ever. Yes. I use it like every time I have sex.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
I think that every single person should be able to bring toys into the bedroom. And if your partner doesn't let you, he's a little fucking bitch boy. OK, I promise wrapping up just a couple more questions. I want to just talk to you about obviously your career has been
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
fucking insane this year like I don't even have words to describe it and with so much of that comes like what we've been we were talking about earlier of just like pressures and things that you don't know how to handle like have any female artists in the industry ever reached out to you to offer support in all of this yeah like almost every girl wow yeah it's really awesome what piece of advice do you think has helped you the most in all of this
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
The feeling of being watched is the weirdest fucking thing.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Do you have like moments where you're like, holy shit, am I too in it right now? Like, do you ever have moments where you try to pull back, whether it's like I need to pull back on public appearances a little bit, like I need to fucking be in a reality for like just a little bit more before I push myself back into it?
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Tell me if you have to in just like one of the accomplishments or just a moment from this past year that you're the most proud of.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Dude, growing up Catholic, I was like, you can't shake it. It's fucking hard. Favorite song to perform? I like making his karma. Love. Who is your dream artist to collaborate with? SZA. Fuck, that would be good. You started off 2025 winning a Grammy. Can you tease anything else to the daddy gang of what is to come this year? Oh, The Giver is not the only song.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
Chapel Roan, thank you so much for coming on Call Her Daddy.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
This is such an honor. You blew me away. Like, one of the best interviews ever. You're fucking insane. No, you're insane. Like, no. And you are. You are. And good vibes. Thank you.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
But when you were in your maximalist era, would you have gotten yourself a nice car? Or still, that was the one thing you wouldn't do?
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
i i get what you mean it's like i just don't if i see a cyber truck i'm like no that shit is so fucking ugly i can't when i drive up next to it i'm like what in the brick ass shit is that yeah detent it detent i want to see who's in there
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
I don't either. So we're in good company tonight. Can you imagine? What car do you drive? Do you drive a Tesla? Okay, I don't drive a Tesla. You're going to hate me. Can I guess? Take a guess. What if I said a Cybertruck? I would be like, what are you doing? You walk out of this interview like, fuck you. No, I do not drive a Cybertruck.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
G-Wagon. No, I drive a Porsche. OK, that's classy. The only reason I drive a Porsche is because I never could afford a car my whole life. And I had to drive my grandmother's car to school. And I was that bitch that couldn't just own it. And I would like park four blocks away. And I was so mortified because I went to this like preppy school that I couldn't afford.
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And all the kids were driving fucking nice ass cars. But obviously their parents were paying for it. So like kind of embarrassing. And I would park away and the door wouldn't open. So I had to get on the other side and climb through the window. It was a whole thing. That's awesome. It built character, you know?
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
And then when I got to high school, I remember this one girl that I was like, thought she was so cool. And she drove a Porsche and it was like the Cayenne or whatever. Yeah. I've only had one car in my life and it's that. Porsche Cayenne. Yeah. Yeah.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
It's a nice car, but for it to be the nanny car, go fuck yourself.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
It literally looks like you are the host of the show. You look like you are running this room right now and I'm the outsider. You look perfect. Oh my God, thank you. Okay, you're obviously known for your incredible, amazing outfits. What has been your favorite outfit to date that you've worn during a performance?
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I personally have this fragrance and I will say my favorite thing, although yes, I love my husband thinking I smell good. There is nothing better when women or your girlfriends compliment you. And every single time I have worn this fragrance, my girlfriends are like, no, what are you wearing? Give it to me right now. That smells so freaking good. And Matt is obsessed with it.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
My mom had me at 23. Wait, when you're saying that about your friends, though, like, do they think this is all wild? Like, how famous you are and, like, all of it when they see articles about you? Are they, like, calling you up and be like, Kaylee, what the fuck? Or are they just like, this is your life, bitch. Like, text us when you want to come over.
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Chappell Roan: Are People Scared Of Me?
It's nice though. It's like therapeutic when you have those girls from like when you're younger. Cause it's like, that is the shit that it genuinely is therapeutic to just be like, and that little fucking cunt from, and you're like, I don't even know where she is these days. They're probably a better person now.
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Monica Lewinsky: An Intern vs. The President
Daddy gang, picture this. You just got one of the most prestigious internships in the country and you feel like your career is about to take off. You're so excited to be working alongside your boss who is without a doubt the most important person and everyone loves and admires this man. One day, he starts to show you attention. He even begins to flirt with you. And one thing leads to another.
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I think I've recognized, and I think a lot of women can experience too, especially with media now, it's like,
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Monica Lewinsky: An Intern vs. The President
which we'll get to about the double standard because yes you made the mistake but I feel like there's also a conversation online of just like but the person within the marriage is the one that truly has the right and the is supposed to be the loyal one and I find that we are always crucifying the other woman and then there's a level of complexity of there is a power imbalance of you are 22 and this man is 49 so there's so much complexity of it makes me sad for you that
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Monica Lewinsky: An Intern vs. The President
But women tearing you down, I get it with an affair. I think it's a trigger point for a lot of women. Yeah. The way that they could identify whether they had been cheated on by their husbands. You know what I mean? Everyone's coming at it from the angle that they can personally relate to or their fears or their insecurities. But the out...
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break, essentially, from all these women towards you, in my opinion, it's devastating. Because now I think, hopefully, do you feel a difference when women talk to you about it today versus back then? Absolutely.
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Monica Lewinsky: An Intern vs. The President
Their relationship was exposed to the public after Linda Tripp, a woman Monica trusted as a close friend, secretly recorded their phone calls and handed them over to the FBI. After that moment, Monica's life was changed forever. She became the sole focus of a massive investigation that resulted in Bill Clinton's impeachment and her very public downfall.
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Monica Lewinsky: An Intern vs. The President
The White House basically left you out to dry after the president made a public statement claiming he never had sexual relations with you. How did you feel having to watch that and hear him say that? You know, in the moment...
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Monica Lewinsky: An Intern vs. The President
The White House, like you referenced earlier, tried to frame you as this like unstable stalker. But what the evidence then went on to reveal was the president called you often, gave you gifts. How did you, at the end of the day, during all this reconcile, what people were saying about your relationship and then what you knew to be true and what you lived with this person?
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Monica Lewinsky: An Intern vs. The President
In the midst of all of this, we're talking about how you're reading things online about yourself. You're watching the news. They're calling you a whore and they're slut shaming you and they're calling you unstable and mentally unstable. And you're seeing all of this. Did you ever have a moment during all of this where you...
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started to doubt yourself and you started to feel like you were going a little crazy.
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Monica Lewinsky: An Intern vs. The President
I also think what I want to get into talking about too is as a young person, when you're going through something traumatic, your understanding of it in the moment is that, and then you're also somewhat in fight or flight and you're like trying to digest it in any capacity you can. And then as time goes on, you're able to, with time in a beautiful way, start to
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actually look at it a little bit more objectively as time goes on because you're farther away from it so I can imagine like the way that you felt about it in the moment you now have different perspectives and that's okay and I think there's like a lot of shame of people who go through these traumatic moments in their life where they're people are like well how did you feel in that exact moment you're like I don't know I need to process it I need I need time to think and I can imagine people asking you questions paparazzi being outside it's like oh yeah being up on a stand it's like you didn't
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Despite, and I want to emphasize this, despite the 27-year age gap and a clear abuse of power from the president, Monica was the one who was ripped apart in the media. Her name became synonymous with blow jobs and she was relentlessly slut shamed, body shamed, and publicly humiliated for years.
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You knew the truth, but you also had to protect your like mental sanity of like, I need time to heal and to digest the fact that I thought I was in this relationship. Now it's out to the world. What is happening? Right. It's a lot. Yeah. What was your rock bottom moment in all of this? Oh, my gosh.
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I appreciate you explaining it like that because I never thought about it. Like when you're in that restaurant and you spill the wine, you go home that night and you envision those exact faces at that table. And you're like, oh, my God, I hope they forget this. I hope that like but you have a visual. Right. And what you're describing is.
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if anything, yeah, you have like the most real horrific lived experience of what now so many kids are living online, which is this like unseen beast out there that is talking about you, that is taunting you, that is speaking about you and they've never met you. They don't know you. They don't know your character. They're just taking what they've seen, glimpses online.
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Like, didn't they even just like use your passport photo when they
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oh my god my work passport photo Jesus it was the worst but it's all manipulated right like who wants their passport photo but it's all but that's so media of to train someone to believe something about yourself in those rock bottom moments that you just shared with me like having the weight of truly the world on you of people talking about you and you were contemplating is it easier to just not be here what kept you going
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Daddy gang, unfortunately, as women, we are way too familiar with the double standards of how men get treated in this world versus how women get treated. while Bill Clinton still gets to embrace and enjoy his life in the public eye, Monica has spent years working through the lasting effects of this trauma. So now, it is Monica's turn to reclaim her name and share her side of the story.
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And to know what to expect, know how you react, know what upsets you, know what you can get through. Like your threshold, you start to learn more and more.
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It is so heartbreaking because you weren't the only one that participated in this relationship. And yet you were the one who objectively took the hardest hit. Did you ever enter into the anger stage where you were like, fuck this.
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to also be fair. And I think that's like a very normal answer that anyone who has experienced a form of trauma would be like, there's the, I'm not going to say like dissociating, but in some capacity you have to dissociate to keep moving. And then one day it just kind of hits you of your reality because you've gone through enough to get yourself back on your feet.
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And like you said, you graduate and then you're like, okay, I'm going to go get a job. This is normal. And then it's like, no, you can't get a job. When you say that though, Monica, like,
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Was there ever a point that you, not that you should, but was there ever a point that you or anyone in your family thought of changing your name or your last name at all? Yeah.
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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Monica Lewinsky, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you. Thanks, Alex. I am so happy we're finally meeting. It's been a long time coming. I've been looking forward to this conversation for a very, very long time.
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I think there's so much that we're going to talk about today that a lot of the women that listen to my show will be able to resonate with and also learn from. So thank you for taking the time. How are you doing?
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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That's what I was going to say. Congratulations. Thank you. You are launching this podcast, obviously. First, you... survived being the face of a global scandal when you were 24 years old. Now you're launching this podcast called Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky. And basically you're discussing what it means to take back your name. Why did you want to do this now?
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And you guys end up in a full-blown secret relationship. For a while, everything's great. He's giving you gifts. He's making you feel special. And you confide in your coworker telling her everything about the relationship. But then one day, you're at the mall. and the FBI surrounds you.
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And that's, it's important. It's beautiful because I can imagine like the way that you're talking about being isolated and being trapped and not being able to speak to people for eight months and the emotional trauma that can do to a human being. Like you said, you weren't prepared for any of this and it hit you in the face and you had to just run with it because you had no other option to survive.
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Right. And then you come out of this and it's like, how many times did you think like, wow, this – there is a potential this will stay with me for the rest of my life?
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In dating, when you were trying to get back to some form of normalcy, did you find in moments that men were kind of in it for the wrong reason?
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So I appreciate you sharing that though, because like, I couldn't help but think, you know, there was this massive focus on your sex life in your twenties. And I've even talked about it in the beginning days of my show. It was way more sexual and it was fun, but then I would go on dates and I was like, I Wait, no. Like, I think you have the wrong idea.
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The Gigi 9000? The Gluck Gluck 9000, girl. I'm obsessed that you just said that. But that in itself is like, there's the reclaiming of as women to be like, I'm going to own it first before you can own it. But then... You talking about, you know, being slut shamed, like how did you start to trust people again?
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Like getting into a relationship with a man or going into a bedroom with a man that you think you trust?
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Let's talk about it. Your life completely changed once the news broke of your relationship with President Clinton. Can you take me to the day the world finds out about this? You find out that the world knows. Where were you and how did you find out?
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going to like lean into this this thing like you just start you start to get more self-conscious yes you know yes and you start to get more self-conscious and then you get in your head and i get what you're saying like having a glass of wine it relaxes you but i i see what you're saying it's like this is this again the smaller version of what you experienced when i think so many women can relate to whether it's middle school or high school or college and i
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a guy runs around saying something about a hookup with you whether it was true or a lie i've had that happen to me where you're like that's not true like and you're so embarrassed yeah and a lot of those moments like i then would like replay my exchanges with that person and i don't know if you had this where you're like self-consciously being
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made fun of so then you're like well what did i like do you know do i make sense a little bit you're just like replaying like what did i do and what was i like and as a woman like yeah so much of our worth people put on us is our sexuality so then to be publicly put down you're like oh my god and as a 24 year old woman then it's like what am i worth and of course you're worth everything more than that but at the time your self-worth is like well and i had i had had a lot of um
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Can we talk about that for all the young women listening? You have tackled it head on, quite literally. And it is something that I think every woman in our lifetime, we experience it in a way that men just will not understand. Can you talk
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a little bit, if you have any advice on how to overcome shame as a woman when someone is putting you down, again, sexually, for not being enough, whatever it be.
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you know so less and less i want to just kind of conclude on the double standards okay any advice for women when it comes to navigating double standards in how we are treated versus men i can only imagine the amount of women listening that have a workplace dynamic with a boss or a relationship or like you said some a financial situation like do you have any advice
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But Monica, it's the most honest answer you can give because I have sat with so many people. I literally call my mom about it in moments where I'm frustrated if I see something online or in my real personal life. I grapple with it constantly because I... start conversations like this. Like, what do we do, Monica? Like, you experienced something on the biggest platform in the world.
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How do we change this? Because as much as I would like to say it wouldn't happen to another woman again, I do think it could happen to another woman again, looking at, like, what's going on in our world. And so I do think the reality as... as it is to say is like, I don't think there is a solution yet. Yeah.
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First of all, I can't thank you enough for saying that, but I hope you know I feel the same way about you. The fact that you have chosen to sit here and continue to sit in front of cameras and speak about your experience, it makes me emotional. It's like... There are so many women that look at you and it's like, if she can get through that, then I can get through this.
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And it's not that it should be your job to make people feel more seen and more hopeful, but it is so incredible that you haven't given up and that you didn't just go away and just decide to pull back. You kept your fucking name, Monica Lewinsky, and you're not going anywhere. And that's why I'm so excited for you. Podcasting is...
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so incredible it's so hard it's so hard but it's so hard it's so much harder than i thought everyone will give you grace in the fact that you are going on to this new venture okay i am so excited for you i am going to give you my personal number and i'm here okay if you need any advice okay okay last question okay if you could go back yeah and talk to your 22 year old self what would you tell her do not go to washington
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one my heart just breaks for you because i'm thinking about myself when i was 24 and i'm thinking about all the women that are watching when you're 24 years old like your frontal lobe is still not fully developed a hundred percent you are
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in a situation that like, how would you know how to respond that you're saying they're coming to you and saying, if you don't wear this wire, you're going to go to jail. Like, were you able to confide in at least like your mom? Like, did you have to hold all of this by yourself in that moment?
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They know about you and your boss's relationship because your coworker secretly recorded your conversations and turned them over to the FBI. They tell you if you don't cooperate, you will go to jail. Suddenly, every explicit detail of you and your married boss's relationship is released to the public.
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There's a level of like, wow. we can't fathom what, as a young woman, you were feeling in that, like, pretty terrifying experience of all these people telling you what you needed to do. You don't have a chance to think for yourself.
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The media attention, there's paparazzi outside at all times. Like, what were you doing every day? Like, were you going stir crazy?
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Next thing you know, your face is on the cover of every newspaper and every news channel is talking about you. They call you a slut and a whore. They criticize your body and they embarrass you every single day for decades to come. You're not allowed to talk to your friends about it. You can barely leave your house.
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Can you explain initially, once this all broke, how right off the bat was the media portraying you?
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I can't imagine the feeling of like for a second being like, well, that's, yeah, I guess that's what happened. Oh my God, we. that's not me. How are they – why are they calling me a whore? Why are they calling me a slut? Or how am I the pursuer? Like, what – can you explain how your – the name calling and the slut shaming slowly started to chip away at the way you felt about yourself? Yeah.
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Your name and reputation are completely ruined and your life crumbles before your eyes. Daddy gang, this is a true story. This is Monica Lewinsky's story. When Monica Lewinsky was 22 years old, she was an intern at the White House, and she ended up in a two-year relationship with her boss, the President of the United States, Bill Clinton.
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Once you got out of this isolation, essentially, I guess we could call it, right? How did... people in your life treat you? And did you see a difference in the way that like men versus women treated you? Like, was there a difference?
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And it's like, as long as you're good with the people that you love, like that's all that fucking matters. And I feel like my friendships right now are in such a good place. I feel really fortunate and my family is. And so, I mean, by the time it comes Jen first, I could be like, oh, we had a fucking blowout fight in Newtown. Everyone's fucked. The whole family has a riff in it.
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But I'm going to just hold this moment where I'm at right now where things feel good. And so I hope for you, Daddy Gang, if you can take anything from this of like, I will share with you. My mom and I have had such an incredible relationship throughout my life. But we have had so many ups and downs because we are so fucking similar. And you know when you're similar to someone, it can cause...
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a lot of angst within a dynamic and before I bought my parents this house it took so much fucking work for us to just work through some shit that we had not worked through and it took therapy sessions it took very long conversations like I'm not sitting here being like I have the perfect family and I'm so proud. Like I'm proud of my family, but my family has a lot of shit.
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And the fact, I think why I'm so proud of this chapter is like in order to get to the place of getting them this house, um, We all knew we needed to be on a better page with each other for them to even move to California. And so there's been a lot of conversations, a lot of hard conversations, tears, crying. Like you guys know how it is.
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Like when you become an adult, you have to like rewire the way that you have a relationship with your parents. And it's so fucking confusing. And it's such a mindfuck in moments where you feel like you're the adult or they're still the adult and you want them to grow up with you because you're like, no, now treat me like an adult. I'm an adult too. And you're an adult.
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So let's all be adults in the room. But they look at you as a kid. Like there's so many fucking crazy dynamics that go into that moment where you recognize, well, my parents and I need to basically recalibrate our relationship. And I can imagine so many of you are going through that right now.
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Like I trust me and my mom and I can joke about it now, but like we've had Christmases where I was like, I'm going to kill you. And she's like, I'm going to kill you too, Alex. And that's life. But why I think I'm able to sit here and smile and be like, Merry fucking Christmas is I really put in a lot of fucking work in therapy and shout out to my therapist.
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I hope you have a nice fucking Christmas and Hanukkah because you deserve it, bitch. You put in the work with me this year and it got me to a place where I can feel really, really good.
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excited for the future and it doesn't mean the work has stopped a lot of my relationship with my family members I mean my sister and I just had like such a breakthrough conversation recently because my sister and I always go through things my brother and I go everyone goes through things my dad's perfect no
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But we all have these like really interesting dynamics that we're constantly working through. And if I can say anything that you're bringing into the New Year Daddy Gang is it's like, start now. Start having the conversations. If you have that gut feeling where you're like, why the fuck can I not get past this with this person? Have you talked to them about it?
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Have you sat them down in an environment where you're coming from a loving place and you're not being attacking and you're actually like, How do we fucking fix this? I love you. Like, what the fuck are we doing? That's my advice for the new year. Like, try to get closer with the people that you love because we don't have that much fucking time. And so, yeah. So Merry Christmas.
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I'm going to answer some questions and I'm going to give you guys just a little you time because we've had enough me time. Okay, Daddy Gang, I'm back. If you are listening to this in audio, you're like, you didn't go anywhere, Alex. Oh, I did, bitch. I'm a sneaky little bitch. If you're watching this, you can tell I changed clothes. It's because I had to quickly run to a meeting.
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You know, duty calls, duty calls. And so I just got back and now I'm back with you. So I figured today is In the spirit of spending a little fun time with your father, I should give back to the community and answer some questions because bitches, we've got a lot to talk about. Okay, first question from a daddy gang member.
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Hey Alex, I'm a sophomore in college and all of my friends like to go out, but I'm not a big drinker. I feel like I'm also getting judged for not drinking. How do I still have a good time without drinking? Oh my gosh. I mean, this is like, I think this spans beyond college. I think the advice I'm going to give, and again, I'm not like a savant with this situation.
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Like I do socially drink, but if I put myself in your situation, I do think this can be applicable to anyone, not just people in college. However, I do recognize that in college, you are definitely drinking maybe more in saturated environments and also in a way that is more socially...
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grouped up in and like it's not so much like a dinner or drinks with a friend it's like everyone is looking at everyone and everyone is aware of what everyone's doing in college and everyone is in everyone's business so everyone knows who drinks and who doesn't drink so I'm sorry that first of all you feel uncomfortable or you feel like you're being judged because you should never ever ever ever feel judged for doing something that you don't want to do
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If you don't want to drink, you should not drink. And I know, again, it's easier said than done because peer pressure is a real fucking thing. I feel like when you hear peer pressure, you think like middle school and high school. No, this shit goes through fucking adulthood. I'm sure this affects moms. This affects like relationships. Like it's all over. So I'm sorry that you're handling that.
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Number two, you should never feel judged or insecure about something that you don't want to do, especially when it involves putting something in your body that is not healthy. So if people are doing drugs and they look at you and they're like, oh, like she's not down or it's a drink and they're like, why the fuck isn't she drinking? I think the people that are so consumed or
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with if other people are drinking or not are really fucking weird. I cannot relate to being like, why the fuck aren't you drinking tonight? Why does my intoxication level at all impact you?
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Now for sure I can see if there's someone that's like you're so judgy when you're sober and you're judging all of us yeah but I feel like that's like rare and if they are then like don't be friends with someone that's like fucking judging your decisions but if you're just someone there that's trying to have a good time and everyone is fucking nagging on you or there are specific people that are nagging on you this is my advice.
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My parents are officially selling my childhood home. And if any of you still have your parents that live in the home that you were born in and grew up in, you know the sentimental value that that thing holds, right? Like when I look back at my childhood home, my parents have had it my entire life. So for 30 years, it's all I've known. Every time I visit my parents, it's it's at that location.
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And I don't know if this is like playing into it but there are just some social things that you can easily do that like I'm not this isn't groundbreaking information but number one I think no matter what you can always have a drink in your hand so that immediately will just like block people from asking if they can get you a drink because sometimes we can give people the benefit of the doubt like.
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I bet a lot of times someone is literally just coming up to you to be like, can I get you a drink? Because they're trying to be either the hostess with the mostest or they're just trying to be a good friend or like socially that's an in. Like a lot of times I think when it comes to flirting socially, a huge opportunity is going up to a woman and offering to buy her a drink, right?
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Like that's like a social norm thing. It's like, bitch, buy me a drink. That's all I did in college was like, which one of these motherfuckers is going to buy me a drink and then I'm going to leave and I'm going to ditch in five seconds.
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Also recognize that if people are offering you a drink, maybe some of it could be in your head that you're feeling judged, which again is totally normal because I think in college, so much of the culture is the drinking culture. But I think holding a...
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Anything, whether it's a solo cup or whether you're at a bar and you have a soda water with a lime like that can immediately mitigate the damage of like when someone's trying to slide in through using drinking as an opportunity to connect with you.
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Then we have the other side where it's not meant to be connecting with you and it's literally just some bitch that is being judgmental and rude towards you and is trying to, for some reason, get you to engage in something that you don't want to do. But I do think there's always room for.
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the in-person in a sober state conversation if this is someone in your friend group that's constantly up your ass about drinking you could ask them to just chat for a second and you can again depending on how nefarious it is or not you can say listen I love you and you're such a good friend of mine but I have been really struggling socially because I don't want to drink and I'm having the best time and I think it makes it really hard for me to have a good time though when I'm
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you consistently are making me feel like I'm like sticking out like a sore thumb for not drinking or I'm like the odd man out like I don't personally like to drink and I'm not judging anyone in the room like check yourself too though because again this is so broad the question so I would need to know more of the details but check yourself like are you being a little judgy to your friends that are drinking and are you know what I mean and if you're not amazing but we know some of those people and it's again
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This is fucking life. If you're not indulging in something, then there's a reason you don't do it, right? So you have your thoughts about it to each their fucking own. I think something I've just accepted more in life recently is I don't care what anyone else is doing unless it is directly affecting me. If you are getting fucking hammered and you are doing your thing, Great.
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Like, I'm not going to judge you. Obviously, if it's a close friend and you're seeing them deteriorating and they're making really bad decisions in life. Sure. You got to pick your moment to maybe check in on them. But if it doesn't affect you, why the fuck do you care if someone's not drinking tonight? Like, shut the fuck up. And Daddy Gang, I love you. And I think.
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this is something that we can also work on is if you are the person that is, it may not be from a mean spirited place. Maybe you are just the girl that's trying to rally all your friends and get them in the mood and you're telling them to drink or whatever. And they don't want to like, why, why are we like making people feel like they need to drink?
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No one, no one ever woke up from a night of drinking and was like, I was the best version of myself last night. And even if you felt that way, I promise you anyone sober was like, this bitch is so fucking annoying. Like, I don't know. Drinking is something that I think about a lot. And Matt and I talk about it a lot. And I love to socially drink.
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And I love a good glass of wine or a whiskey or a tequila or martini or fucking anything. But I will say it was interesting. So when I was on tour... I did not drink on tour, really. Like there were very few moments where I was drinking and I would have like a couple sips of my White Claw like on stage.
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Right. And I have had so many memories there. I grew up with my two siblings there. My parents, my grandmother lived with us at one point. I lived on a cul-de-sac. I had the Bowers and the Volpe's next to me. All the kids would be in the fucking cul-de-sac playing capture the flag. Okay. And it started, you know, as capture the flag.
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But I went on stage completely sober and every single night after a show and there were people backstage in the green room or at the after party, I was not drinking. And I'm sure even on social media, maybe it looked like I did not drink until the last show.
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night I had a drink and even I remember like when Wiz Khalifa was there in Oakland everyone was like smoking with him and everyone was drinking and they were having a time and I didn't I didn't drink and I think what happened which was odd for me because I wouldn't say I'm a party girl I definitely used to be but like I have had so many nights where I'm fucking hammered. Don't get me wrong.
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But there was this weird thing that happened on tour. And I'm not saying I'm never going to get obliterated again, because trust me, like I love a good night where I'm like having fun. But something happened on tour where because I was one of the only people that was sober the entire time, I was around so many people post show that were drinking. And I'm not going to lie. I...
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was so like I wasn't judging anyone I was actually more judging myself where I was like wait like when you're sober and you're around drunk people you're like I never want to drink again in my life because you all sound like fucking clowns or the worst is when like you're watching someone and you feel so bad because you're like oh my god you're fully embarrassing yourself right now and I know sober you would never do this and you actually like feel bad for someone but I just I don't know I
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After tour, I just kind of had this moment where I was like, I don't know if I'm going to drink to the level that I maybe have in the past in moments. And again, if I'm at a holiday party and I'm having a good time, like I'll have the second martini, you know what I mean? But
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Drinking is a whole concept that I recognize is very complicated because there are people that are watching this that may have a problem with alcohol and are sober because of that. There may be people that are sober not because they have a problem, but someone in their family had a problem. And so they're just like adverse to alcohol in general.
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There may be people that currently have alcohol problems that are watching Call Her Daddy. And then there may be people that are just socially drinking and love a good cocktail and they don't have any plans of changing. And it's all over. I just think being less judgmental of anyone on that spectrum is my biggest advice.
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And when someone is peer pressuring you to do something that you don't want to do, I think it's a fun, casual, lighthearted, like, oh, girl, don't worry about me. I'm good.
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But if they keep pressing then it's a fucking boundary issue and it's a respect thing and I could see myself probably pulling someone at some point if they kept being the aggressor in the dynamic of like bitch what do you have on me that like you why are you so obsessed with me. what I'm doing. Like, do you want to know what I ate for fucking breakfast too?
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And then it started to like, you know, start fingering each other and experimenting and you get felt up in the bushes and in the back of the woods. Like the woods was where we tried our first alcohol. I remember my first sip of vodka was out of a Pringles can in the woods in Pennsylvania behind my house. And my house had these woods behind it.
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Cause you want to know, you want me to put shit in my body at night? Like, should we, are you, are you that invested in what I'm fucking doing? Cause I don't even give a fuck. I don't even know what you're drinking. Are you drinking? I don't know. You know? So yes, I'm sorry though. And Sorry, that was a long-winded thing, but drinking culture is complicated.
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But I apologize on behalf of the annoying fucking drunk community. If you're feeling pressured, you shouldn't feel pressured. I love you. I'm sorry. Okay, next question. Hi, Daddy. I love you. Okay, now that it's out of the way, I'm writing in to ask a question about my relationship. I've been dating my current boyfriend for almost two years now, and I love him so much. I'm 23, and he's 25.
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He's honestly the best thing that has ever happened to me, and I really do think he's the one. But sometimes I sit back and think about, is this really it? Is this who I'm meant to be with forever? There's nothing wrong with our relationship. We argue now and then, but never anything huge.
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I guess the best way to explain it is that sometimes I get scared of the commitment, but I wanted to ask if that is something normal. Should I be worried and think more about my relationship? Should I just hope this feeling goes away and everything will work out? Anyways, love you so much.
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I first want to validate you and say it is so fucking normal when you are getting, in my opinion, when you're getting to a place in your relationship that it feels like, okay, this is more than dating. Like I could see my life with this person. I think it's so normal. And if anything, I would be concerned if you weren't like... is this the right situation? Like, is this forever?
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Is this going to be it? I did that with Matt. I did that with Matt multiple times of just like, whoa, like if this, is this going to be the person I spend the rest of my life with? I think there is a natural positive amount of that feeling that you should have because it means that you're taking it really seriously. It is a big decision. In my
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whether it's marriage or someone you're going to just be with forever and you don't need like marriage as a title. That is a huge, huge decision. And I think building a life with someone is a huge decision and it shouldn't be taken lightly.
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And I think that when you are pausing and reflecting and nothing is really happening, it could be like you said, because you live together, you're kind of on this track. You're like, okay, is this it? Yes, that's normal.
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I do also though have to say, because I've talked about this on the show before, and I think that it's kind of up to you to discern the difference of like, is it a normal amount of like, whoa, this is kind of crazy. I've gotten to the point where I found my life partner. Or is it going that further step where you're like, I don't I don't know. I just don't know.
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I would say if you're finding yourself doubting more than you're happy, that's your answer. And sometimes it's not as black and white for someone. Right. Like sometimes you have this weird gut thing where it's like, is this really it? And I think there are so many complex reasons as to why you could be doubting. Right. Maybe you come from a family of divorce.
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and you do not wanna repeat the pattern and you're like, I really don't wanna get divorced. So maybe you're overthinking your commitment and the relationship because you don't want things to go south ever. And so you're being hard on yourself and you're holding yourself and your relationship to a standard that is just not normal or that is just not realistic.
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So everyone would always kind of congregate directly behind my house. And I did some of the most fucked up, brilliant shit back there. It's really who I am to the core. Alex Cooper that lives in LA right now, she would be nothing without without Philly bitch Alex Cooper, okay? So it's sad.
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But I think if you go into a marriage and you're like, I've never had a doubt in my mind, I would like to say I don't think that's humanly possible because we're human beings and we have experienced life and we know what we want and what we don't want.
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And meshing worlds together is never seamless and perfect because no one is exactly going to be every single fucking possible thing that you could need. But if you were someone that just was like, I've never had any doubts. Amazing. I would say to make the person writing in feel comfortable. more seen and better. It is, I think, more normal to doubt and to wonder and to question.
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Again, a normal amount. If you're literally like fucking posted up every night and you're like, God damn it. Like, I just don't know. And I don't know. And you're just chronically freaking the fuck out. I think you have your answer always when you're constantly doubting because there's just something in your gut that is telling you, babe, this isn't right. What my advice would be
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to someone that is in a position that's just trying to like suss out, is this my person? Is this going to be forever? Am I making the right partner life decision? Here is my advice. You live together, right? So that's step number one. If you don't live with someone that you're considering spending the rest of your life with, my first step would be live together.
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Because when you live with someone, girl, you will, you will, you will see things that you either are like, I love this person even more. You will see things that you're like, I don't love it, but I love them so much that I'm fine. I'll get over that. Or you will see things where you're like, how fast could I break the lease? Like how fast could I get away from this person?
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Step number one is live together and see, do you like cohabitating with this person? Do you like being in a relationship where you are sharing space together and where you're building a life together rather than, oh, I go over to his place every couple days, but then I really have my alone time, right? And then I also think you should start to talk about what do you want in life?
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And I think this is something that I think as you get a little older, the conversation just people have less time to bullshit. So again, like when you're looking for marriage and kids in a life or no kids, whatever it is that you want, I think that dates start to get a little bit more to the point.
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But I do think for you, I think you need to start actualizing conversations that will give you a more clear answer if this is the person that you want to spend the rest of your life with. For example... Have you talked about where you want to live, where you want to settle down? Have you talked about financials? Like, do you know how much this person makes?
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And I figured since they're selling it, this would be our last Christmas to all come together and do one last big hurrah in Pennsylvania together. So Matt and I are bringing the dogs. Me, Matt, Henry, and Bruce are going to, first we're starting our Christmas in New York City. And we decided, because my sister lives in New York City, we decided let's do a little New York part one of Christmas.
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Do you know how they know how much you make? Do you know what their career goals are? Do you guys know, like, do you want kids? Maybe you do and he doesn't or vice versa. Maybe you don't and he does. Or maybe you both are like, yes, we want kids. Like you need to start talking about essentially like the core tenants of a relationship that will just go past. Like we're dating. Everything's fun.
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Are friend groups like each other? Like that's great, but that's also can be falling into the category of like a fun fling or like even friendship, right? What is it in your personal dynamic for your romantic relationship that's gonna get you to the next level? It's talking about and being very clear about the things that you want in life.
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And I've dated guys before where I was in love and I remember like there was a,
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conversation I had with an ex and I was like very in love with him but we just did not align on a lot of the later in life things like the immediate was great and it was fun and it was sexy but when it came down to I talked with him about children I talked with him about even like fucking religion and shit and politics and it was off I know for some people it works
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For me personally, I couldn't do that because people always ask me like, you know, what has changed since you got married? And at first I was like, I don't know, nothing. And then I will say, and it's cliche, but it's right, is... that what has changed is I can feel so heavily now that Matt and I in a beautiful way have become one in the sense of we are both still individuals.
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We both still are good on our own, but every single day we are not operating as just selfishly individuals. We're working towards our relationship and what we're building and a family. And I don't think you need a piece of paper to feel that. It's when you know you're committing to someone for the rest of your life.
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I think there is a switch that shifts of, wow, we're in this and we are choosing to be in this and how beautiful that we're choosing to be in this forever and
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and every single decision that we each make directly impacts the other person and so there is an accountability I think that like raises when you're in a marriage that maybe I didn't feel as much when you're in the dating phase or you haven't like claimed you know that this is your person for life because understandably like dating you're just not you're not you haven't decided you're committed.
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And once you are committed, I think there's a beautiful solidness that you feel. It's like hard to explain. There's this solid foundation. You now feel that you're both building on the same fucking foundation and you're both so invested in each other. And that is your fucking person. And they're going to get you through anything and you're going to get them through anything.
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But you are, again, the important part is still individuals working in a unit. I don't know if that fucking makes sense, but I don't know. I had been really vocal prior to getting married about how my independence was really important to me. And I'm a very independent person. Like I... And I think I was nervous.
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Like, can I be in a situation with someone where I genuinely feel like I'm sometimes can't be selfish and I can't, you know, be selfish Alex, single Alex or individual Alex. And the answer is if you're in a healthy relationship, you don't need to sacrifice any of it because when you are not doing
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being as individualized thinking in moments, it still feels like it is because you know your partner wants the same and the best for you and you want the best for them. So it's kind of like you're just less alone in this life. Like you can still maintain that autonomy over your decisions. Like Matt is many times is always like, what do you think? Like you tell me, like you're
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it's your choice and I know you'll make the right choice for us. And I do the same to him. And of course we make a lot of decisions together, but there's this safety and security of like, this person is in it till the end with me and we're doing this together.
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And so when you're making that life choice, I just urge you daddy gang, like to think about it from the standpoint of, do you feel like the person that you're dating is someone that you can look at
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Because let's be real, there's not much to do in Pennsylvania. As much as it's emotionally incredible to go back, you need a good 48 hours and then you can bounce out. Because there's not much to look around at except for the grass and the dead trees. So we're going to go to some plays in New York tonight.
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in 20 years and be like they respect me and they see me and they know me and they love me and all of my flaws and all of my issues and if anything half of my flaws they think are attractive and they love and they want the best for me and they're always going to be there
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I know that's deep but like I have friends that have kids and and they're like fuck he's nowhere to be found and I guess I kind of saw it because like he was always kind of like I was kind of always the one that was picking up the this and the that and like again I'm just using kids as an example because it's like the easiest example but there is the immediate excitement of life
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And then there is the realistic side of life. Right. And it's the planning and it's the accepting that it's not always going to be sexy and hot and fun and wild. And sometimes it's going to be really fucking hard. And who do you want to go through the worst times in life with? It's easy to have a good fucking time with someone like it is easy to
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But when you are struggling, when you are financially stressed, when you are health stressed, when you are as a woman going through it hormonally or medically, like do you have a partner? And if I'm just speaking because I'm in a hetero relationship, like if you're in a hetero relationship, like does your partner respect women?
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Does he look at you and genuinely vouch for you and respect you and speak about women in a way that you feel like, well, because if he doesn't respect women, then he doesn't respect you. How the fuck is he going to, you know what I mean? And again, everyone has a different barometer. I think I have maybe a heightened barometer. sometimes I, I don't know.
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I think everyone has a different barometer of what's important to them, but you need to do, I guess my question, sorry. I'm like, this is our whole fucking episode, but I didn't know this was going to go in this direction, but I do think it's an important conversation. Daddy gang. I'm like, do you know what you want? And I think,
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As women, sometimes we can stress understandably about time and pressures and all of it. And so sometimes we can make concessions for things that we actually don't feel good about and we don't really feel comfortable about and we don't really like. And I just want the best for all of you.
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I feel like with this podcast, I've found such comfort in knowing that I can sit here every week and have conversations with people that sit across from me and like exploring conversations that maybe in the day-to-day we don't really pause to think about. Like we literally are waking the fuck up We're going to work. We're getting home. We're fucking exhausted.
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We're like, I'm not going to the fucking gym. Or maybe you're going and you're like, I don't want to do this. And then you're fucking eating and you're trying to then zone out from work and you're watching TV and then you're going to bed and you're repeating. And then we're like, oh, it's the fucking weekend. And we're going out and we're drinking and we're having fun.
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We are kind of at that point in my family where we don't really give each other gifts anymore. But we did decide to just make it fun so people have something to open on Christmas. We're going to do a Pollyanna for my family. And so everyone had to pick someone that they're going to get. We're keeping the gifts under $100 to $200. And everyone is going to...
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And it's like, I'm not saying to fucking meditate. Okay. But it is rare. I feel like that we pause and actually be like, am I happy? Do I like where I am? Am I happy with my friendships and my work life and my...
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romantic situation and my friend's situation like and if I am happy like what's next and no one really tells us to do this but I feel like and I could do it more like I'm not saying I'm perfect I'm just saying I think when it comes to these romantic life decisions a lot of the question marks can be answered in actually just pausing for a minute and thinking about what do you want and what is currently fulfilling you in your romantic relationship and what's not and
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And if you are stressed and if you are staying because something is I've spent so much time and it's been five years, what am I going to do? Start over? Like, yes. Yes, because. You're going to start over now, babe. I don't want at 70 you to be like, Jesus fucking Christ. Like every minute is so fucking precious. And every fucking year is so precious.
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And we don't actually fucking know how long we have. So to... Stay because you've invested time in it is genuinely the worst fucking reason to stay. And I know the process of unraveling, I always talk about this, is so complex, but the process of unraveling is 10 times fucking faster than staying. And you're decades and decades and decades and decades into something.
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You guys all know a family friend or your own parents that are in something that they're not happy with. We all know someone, if you close your fucking eyes and you think about an unhappy couple or a couple that fights or a couple that is cheating, like we all know one. Sadly, we probably know more of that than the happy couples. So... I remember reading an article.
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I think it was in the New York Times. I don't know. I think it was like many years ago it came out and it was like a single person is one step away from finding their happiness and their partner. A person in an unhealthy marriage or relationship is three steps away from being happy.
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in a healthy happy situation because you first have to end the relationship then you have to be single for a fucking minute try to recalibrate why you what was in that relationship that was so unhealthy or unhappy for you and then you need to get good solid on your own and then you need to start dating again where a single person it's like bitch you're working on yourself you're working on yourself and immediately the more you work on yourself you will know immediately oh yeah yeah yeah this person can keep up this person is in line with what I want
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But if you're not working on yourself because you're grabbing on and holding on for dear life to like an unhealthy dynamic. And when I say unhealthy, like the most common a lot also is not just toxic. Like they look fine on the outside, these relationships. And a lot of you, I bet are listening and being like, nothing's technically wrong.
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But babe, if you're constantly doing that, like, well, nothing's really wrong, but you know in your gut. My overall point is If you don't know what you want, how are you going to fucking find it? You saying all the way back to this fucking question, you saying that you've been with your boyfriend for two years, you're 23, he's 25. It feels right. You love him. There's nothing wrong.
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try to go all out for someone and everyone's got someone. By this time I can say it. I have my sister. I have no fucking idea. Wait, do I have my sister or my mom? Wait, no. Cause I know Matt has, no, Matt has, no, Matt has my sister. I have my mom. Cause every single person in my family was like, I hope Matt gets me because Matt gives the best gifts.
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You fight the normal amount that a couple will fight. But you're just wondering you should fucking wonder if this is the right person and you should seriously invest a good amount of time to feel it out and to think about it and to talk with other people in your life.
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Like when I was like really getting to the point where I was like Matt is the one I remember I had a lot of conversations with my friends. I had conversations with my siblings. I had conversations with my parents. And not like interrogative like sit downs.
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It was more just like if my parents were in L.A., we'd go to a dinner with Matt and I. And then one night I'd make sure to go to dinner alone with them. And I would just talk about my relationship and I wasn't defensive and I would open it up and just be like, what do you guys think? And they would ask me questions and I would answer and my mom would say.
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you seem so fucking happy and he is incredible and I you guys are amazing together and if you're happy we're happy but there have been relationships where my parents did not say that and so I had an open communication with them and I know some people don't have that relationship with their parents and that's fucking fine you need one fucking friend that you know is going to shoot you straight and it's going to be like babe you're losing yourself
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I think I just answered, did I answer two questions? But we went on a little bit of like a, we went on a journey together. Okay. Candyland, we started it out small and then we got big and we went all in these different angles.
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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Ho, ho, ho. Merry Christmas. Daddy gang, Merry Christmas from my family to yours. I can only imagine what you guys are doing this morning. Maybe you are curled up by the fire doing a seance because your boyfriend fucked you over and you now have to spend the entire Christmas season alone with your family and
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But these are some of my favorite episodes because I know we're all different, but like, I feel like the best part of what I love doing with the show, especially when I do solos is like, I'm just a girl figuring it out, too. I just got married. I found Matt. I've been in really tumultuous relationships. I've been someone that has been extremely unconfident. I've had self-esteem issues.
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I've had moments where I feel so good and confident and my mental health is good. I've had moments of anxiety. I've had highs. I've had lows like we're all experiencing things.
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similar version of emotions when it comes to what the fuck am I doing with my life and am I making the right decision and I think these type of episodes it's nice to kind of just talk it through even though you guys can't respond you can respond in the comments let me know if you guys like these episodes but I think it's healthy to kind of just like walk through because again maybe this episode will be the trigger for you to be listening in the car on your way to work or
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or you're listening and having a wine night with your girlfriend, or you're alone and you're just playing this while you're cleaning your house or you're at the gym, hopefully this episode will elicit some form of a thought-provoking message something thought-provoking for you that maybe sparked something of like, okay, I actually haven't thought about that.
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Or maybe I haven't been thinking too much about that aspect of my life. Or wait, yeah, I guess I don't really ever pause to really check in with myself of like, how am I feeling about where my fucking life is at? Regardless, I always just want these episodes to help in any capacity, promote some form of communication, whether it's with yourself or your loved ones. And yeah, so Daddy Gang is,
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I love you guys. I love doing solos. You know, I had questions planned and I have so many more, but I do think the time is up. So I will leave you with that. And Daddy Gang, I will see you fuckers next Wednesday. Goodbye.
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My mom was like, Matt, maybe figure out how you can get my name. Cause she's like, I want a Jenny Kane cashmere sweater on from Matt Kaplan under the mistletoe, okay? Sorry, mom, I have you this year. So we all are gonna do Pollyanna and we're gonna hang out in the city. We're gonna go see some plays. We're gonna go eat. We're gonna drink. We're gonna go see the tree at Rockefeller Center.
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And we're just gonna have a time in New York City. There is nothing better than New York City during Christmas time. It is like the most magical place in the world. If you've never gone, I mean, it is like something to put on the books if you can ever make it happen. Of course, it's crowded. Of course, people are stressed and cold, but that's what makes it even better.
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and your entire family is literally annoying the fucking shit out of you, and you're miserable, and this is the one thing that's going to get you through today, hi, hello, I see you, I love you. Maybe you're enjoying the holidays. Maybe you are a holiday goer, and everything about you leads up to this one moment of the year, and you fucking love Christmas or Christmaka, whichever.
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The shoving, getting punched in the face. Merry Christmas after you get slapped silly like it is just so New York to a T. So we're doing all of that. And then on Christmas Eve, we are fleeing the city and we are going back to Newtown, Pennsylvania. And Matt and I have already put in our food request.
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My dad is the chef in our family and he makes the most incredible rack of lambs with this like mustard gravy sauce. So we have requested Brian hit the kitchen, Lori hit the booze, and my siblings and I and Matt and everyone will just be cozied up while my dad cooks for us. There is a chance that we go to church. I'm not a religious person at this point in my life.
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Like I believe there's a God up there. I'm not atheist, but like I wouldn't say I'm as religious as I used to be, but I pray to my God above. But I felt like because it's Jesus's birthday, maybe we should go and hit up the church and go. And like one last time again, like St. Andrew Church was my church growing up. And so I think I'm gonna force Matt to come to church with me.
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But then on Christmas day, We'll open our Pollyanna and we will sing our carols. And my mom will try to make pancakes and she'll burn down the house. My mother, every, so here's the thing I take after my mom, like my mom can barely use a microwave. And although she's very good with the microwave, like that's where it starts and stops in our household. My mom does not cook.
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And every single year, for some fucking reason, my mother thinks in order to be like the Susie homemaker that she wants it to be, she tries to cook all on Christmas morning. It is so insane. One year she made this egg casserole and all of us were shitting and throwing up our pants because we got food poisoning from her egg casserole. And I was like, mom, we're blowing out all the bathrooms.
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You need to put an end to this now. Hand me a chocolate chip cookie from the fucking grocery store and call it a day, bitch. She's like, I'm trying. So we're going to try to make sure she doesn't cook this year. But we'll just like watch movies, give out our Pollyanna. And then...
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My, you know how you guys have like those cousins that aren't really your cousins, but they're like not even related to you, but you call them your cousins because they're like the closest things to you. We have a family in Pennsylvania that I grew up with that are basically my cousins. It's my mom and her best friend growing up had the same kids at the same time and we're all the same ages.
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And so they're going to come over and we're going to have a one big final hurrah send off of the Coopers the last Christmas in Pennsylvania. It's making me kind of emotional because
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When I sit here and think about going back to that house for the last time, I literally told my family, like, don't be alarmed if you see me every fucking minute with my iPhone filming every crevice of this fucking house because I want to remember it all. And it makes me emotional because like specifically that basement in my house was where my all of this started for me.
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Like I would not be sitting here with my podcast and my career had I not done everything I did in that basement. And like, if you're new here, like I just was obsessed with creating and making music videos and movies and skits and plays and short stories. And I filmed everything in that basement and the hours of footage.
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My husband is Jewish. I'm Catholic. We celebrate both in this family. We are inclusive here. Regardless, Merry Christmas. I'm so happy to bring you a new episode of Call Her Daddy today. I'm going to tell you guys what is going to be going on in my life right now during Christmas because we have some big changes going on in the Cooper Kaplan household.
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that I have, I probably have the same amount of hours of footage from that time in my life, if not more than I have of me sitting on a Call Her Daddy set. How crazy is that to think about? I probably have more hours of footage of me as a kid making movies. I still have to catch up. That's why I'm still doing this, you guys. I can't retire. I've got to outlive my younger self.
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I was harder working back then. But it's just crazy to think like that time in my life was it just was everything. And I loved so many incredible memories from my childhood that live in that house. And so I'm going to try to soak it up as much as I can. Now, here's the kicker. Why are my parents selling my childhood home, right? Why are we moving? Where are we moving?
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And by we, I'm not living with my parents, but you know what I'm saying. It's a we thing, okay? The Coopers stick together. My parents are officially moving to Los Angeles, California, and I bought them a house. I think that... Oh, my God. I mean, it makes me emotional. Think about it. Because when I started Call Her Daddy, I had a somewhat of a vision of what I hoped this would turn into.
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But to be able to go to my parents this past summer and with Matt and be like, I want to buy you guys a house and I want to do this for you and I'm so excited to be able to do this for you and I want nothing in return. I just want your happiness and I want you guys to enjoy it and thrive and maybe babysit sometimes if I have kids, okay?
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I'm holding you to it, but it's such a cool feeling and it was such an emotional moment when I told my parents that I was going to buy them this house. We all cried and
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it just meant so much because I would not be where I am today without my parents like my parents sacrificed so much for me to get to where I am all the way back to my soccer days right like the goal was for me to get a scholarship to go play in college but like
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My mom and dad sacrificed every single fucking day hauling me to different counties and getting on flights and taking me to soccer tournaments and taking me to private training sessions and taking me everywhere I wanted to go. And then after soccer was done, I asked my parents, oh my God, can I go film a movie?
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And my mom would bring me to the community college and I would want to go up on the stage and I would want to use it as a backdrop for my perfect set that no one was going to see. But mom, it matters. Come on, mom. And my mom would be there and she would be on work calls, in her minivan, watching me, probably cursing like, Jesus Christ, my daughter's fucking insane.
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But it all led me to be able to do what I love for a living. And I literally wouldn't be here without them. So buying them a house is like the least I could fucking do because they sacrificed financially, emotionally. They sacrificed with my other siblings in moments for me. And so it feels really, really, really fucking insane. And incredible that I get to do this.
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So they will be moving at some point in the new year. Matt's renovating the entire home. I literally walked in. We found this house, you guys. And it is such a New England house to its core. Like my parents are from the East Coast. We love the New England style. And I remember walking into this home and seeing it for the first time and being like, this is my mother.
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So, so far, every Christmas with Matt, we've kind of spent it in different locations. One time we spent it in London together. We've spent it in California together. We've spent it in Utah together, skiing with my family and so on. But this year we are shaking things up. And I suggested we go back to good old Pennsylvania.
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Like I got chills thinking about it. And I wish my grandmother could have been here to see it. Like me getting her the house and her, like, oh my God, my mom saw it for the first time. It was the first house they went and saw in Los Angeles. And they were like, this is the one. And I, and I secretly put a bid on the house and I didn't tell them.
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And my mom went around with my dad and they saw a bunch of other homes and they were like, oh, we just can't stop thinking about that first one. And I had put a bid on without even telling them. And when we got the house, I called them and I said, OK, so like, how are you guys feeling? I know you guys really liked this new one. And they're like, we really like this this last one.
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But that first house we saw when we walked in, there was something in like the feeling I got like that's the house. And at the time someone was higher bidding than us and they dropped out. And I said, well, that's so interesting. You still are obsessed with that house mom because I have some good news. And she's like, Alex, Alex, I do this to my parents all the time.
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Like I'll surprise them with random things. I'm like, no, no, you didn't. I said, we got the house. And we all started crying and sobbing and it was such an emotional moment. And so now Matt's redoing the entire fucking house. He's like, we need to make it perfect for them to move in. And that's why I love him so much. Matt is like, he is such an acts of service kind of guy.
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Matt will go above and beyond for everyone in his life and then some. And it doesn't mean you even have to be family. Like family is...
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a loose term for Matt you can be the guy that he's Matt takes care of his hairdresser Matt's gonna take care of his dry cleaner Matt's gonna take care of everyone and then some and so Matt is just like I'm gonna make this the most beautiful great place for them so that it's safe like he wants to make sure everything is good and the bones are good and everything so
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That is the next chapter of my life. Now, am I mentally insane that I got my parents a house that's about like 10 to 15 minutes away from me? You know, we did think about should we put them a highway drive away? We were like, should we have to at least like get on a ramp to get to them and get off? But what's funny is Matt is currently having to do that with his grandmother, who on Christmas Day,
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turns 101 years old that bitch is still kicking she is the most with it shout out grandmommy happy birthday I love you but she's 101 years old at this point and we have to get on the highway and it is kind of like a bitch for Matt's mom just in terms of like oh I wish she lived closer so I did take that into consideration of like you know what I won't give them my the code to my home because
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So there's some boundaries like Lori and Brian, you can't just show up unannounced, but I can show up unannounced to your house because I'm still your fucking kid. And no, so they live like 15-ish minutes away from us, 10, 15, depending on traffic. And it just feels right. Like I'm not getting ahead of myself. I'm not like fucking pregnant, but you know, I would like kids in the future.
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And we did, it did kind of help knowing like, wow, the house is really close to where there is a school we would want maybe our kids to go to. grandma and grandpa can be in their little minivan, beep, beep, kids, picking you up from school. Also, it's not lost on me that Matthew travels a lot for his movies.
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And my father is going to be getting many visits from his youngest daughter saying, pops, make me some fucking food. My dad is the best fucking cook that I know. And I am obsessed with his food. So now the last thing I have to do is try to convince my sister to move from New York City. And I got the whole fucking gang now because my brother now lives here.
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So overall, I feel really, really blessed. And I just feel like I'm at a happy point in my life where I've worked really, really hard on my relationships with everyone in my family. And Matt and I were having this conversation the other day and we were just like, it's so crazy with our jobs and work and life and friends and all this.
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Now, I wasn't just being a martyr and saying, let's go back to Newtown, Pennsylvania just for the thrill of it when we have gorgeous California at our fingertips. I was really saying, let's go back to Pennsylvania because I can't believe I'm saying this. And it probably means nothing to all of you, but it's a huge deal to me. My parents are officially selling my childhood home.
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Right, you're like, I taught myself that while my dad never taught me that.
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That is beautiful because it means you're like changing generationally what you're gonna now instill in your kid. And then if he ever has kids, he hopefully will do that.
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You, though, talking about going at 12 years old to Los Angeles with your mom. I feel like whenever people think about actors, you sharing, you know, you're like, I was chubby. I was going through it. My voice like I was insecure. Then people would be like, so what the fuck are you talking about? Then you become an actor like people associated like actors who like love this.
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the way that they look and like to look at themselves. It's like a lot of vanity. But then I feel like in a beautiful way. What are you talking about Penn? No, but you know what I'm saying? And then I think the beauty of having podcasts like this is like you learn things about most people get into the arts because it's a way to like find themselves.
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A lot of times people pour themselves into it because they're running from something else. So when you go to LA, were you still quite insecure?
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You're sitting in a house. Your parents are basically mid-divorce. You got no cat. You're not feeling too good about yourself.
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Just to remind you. Thank you. It was awful. And then we need to find Penn something to do for the summer. So...
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When do you think you started making money off of it?
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Was there a point in your life where you turned into the breadwinner for your family?
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Yeah, that's really nice. I feel like you then kind of, from what I've researched, like you went on to really do a lot of like the awkward, nice guy roles, like pretty consistent.
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I guess it hasn't stopped until you became a murderer, but... Yeah, but he's an awkward, nice guy. Okay, yeah, that's actually fair. There's kind of a through line, even though he's a fucking psychopath. But that through line is like pretty consistent, right? That's fair to say. Were you looking for those roles or did they naturally just come to you because it's a little bit of who you are?
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Here we go. Yeah, adding two. You guys are gonna do incredible, but you're brave.
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I feel like every time I've talked to child actors, that's something that... is lost, I think, in the way that we look at these young kids. I always look at Lindsay Lohan. I'm like, it's incredible how long she worked while all of us were picking our noses and being in school and doing fucking nothing, essentially, but just being a child.
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And so to have worked your whole youth and then into adolescence and then all of it, I'm sure you're like, I never want to work another day in my life. I'm so exhausted. When you were supposed to be having fun, you were working. But then to turn down Gossip Girl is like what now we know what a success it was.
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But at the time, like, were you also uninterested in the role that you were going to play? Or was it just because you were like, I'm so fucking tired. I don't want to do this anymore.
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You can ask me more, but I'm not gonna. You obviously ended up changing your mind. So like what changed?
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I think that's so understandable for people. I think people in this industry really get that. And I think people that are consumers don't see that whatsoever. They're like, there are going to be people that watch this and then are like, Penn, what the fuck are you talking about? You run the biggest show in the world. I will forever love you. Oh my gosh, that show I rewatch every year.
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But to you, I think a lot of actors understandably have that where you don't want to be typecast into this one thing that people think of you as. Right.
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Okay, something that I love though is I think what we, and this goes past acting, is like there are stages in your life where you have to have time to step away from it to have any bit of love and respect for what you did at that time. There are people that look back at what they did in high school and they're like,
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actually fucking stab me and kill me before you even bring that up please look away but then all of a sudden you look back and you're like oh wow yeah with now more perspective and time i like look back and i can see positives from that so let's pay a little bit of you know respect to dan yeah yeah We'll go back to the childhood.
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No, no, no. We're going to go back to it. We're going to get into trauma. We're going to get into all of it. Dan's going to be a breeze. Dan is going to be a breeze. You're going to be like, let's talk more about Dan Humphrey. Rufus. Okay. In what ways did you relate at all to Dan Humphrey?
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Talk to me about the sideburns at the time.
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They were so large and thick and the width.
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Yeah, yeah. But they were kind of pronounced because you didn't have a beard. It just sat.
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What do you think is your best dad quality currently?
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To the point, though, that someone could assume that they were a prop. Like, you stuck those bad boys on every day. No, they were so pronounced.
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It looked amazing. I definitely focused on it quite often. And, like, the first season, that shit was popping. Oh, my God. Okay, so we relate a little bit to him. How are you different than Dan?
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Um, he went through his phases where I would be like lonely boy. Like I do love you now. And then I'd be like, Dan, shut the fuck up. Like when he dated Georgina, I was like, you're so done in my eyes. I hate you.
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I'm like, it's Georgina. And meanwhile, you're like Serena. Like I love her. She's great. And I wanted to just, but then he came back around to be honest.
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I'll walk you through them. Don't worry. We've got a lot here.
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Yeah. No, actually sociopathic. Can we talk about that? Where were you? What were you wearing? Where were you sitting? Or were you standing? What was the energy in the room when you found out you were Gossip Girl?
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You have to tell me who you think should have been Gossip Girl. You have to tell me. who you think should have been Gossip Girl.
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Oh my God. You get to call yourself one of the core six.
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That's just like the promo right there. It's a soundbite.
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Thank you. You're welcome. Okay, wait. When I interviewed Nate Archibald, a.k.a. Chase Crawford, he told me that he and Ed Westwick would throw these rooftop parties at their apartment. Did you ever get invited and did you ever go?
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Okay, what were you doing during your rise to fame in New York City?
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Wait, but did you have people like, as you had from Thailand, did you have people thinking because of your life in New York City, being this it guy, you had this access and this lifestyle that you like weren't living in Gramercy?
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For six years, you're living in New York City, you're in your early 20s, and I feel like a lot of the character that you were... being you were kind of had parallels, right? You were like living in New York City.
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You were also living in New York City at the time for the show. You were dating Blake Lively. You were dating Serena on the show. Did you feel like you were able to like separate your actual job from your reality and actually able to like grow in your 20s or did it all feel like it was kind of merged?
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Oh girl, like it's like the younger version. Yeah, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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Well, and I feel like that makes a lot of sense too because even as you're saying that, I'm thinking about like very specific people could look back at their time in – like Hannah Montana, for example, that is the biggest mind fuck for Miley where it's like you're playing yourself, but you're secretly a pop star and then you actually become a pop star.
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Like you guys were playing these characters that were actually physically living in New York City. And it wasn't like you guys were like superheroes. It was it was like an actual thing that people could believe. You're like, excuse me, Dan, again, Gossip Girl, bitch. But like, you know what I'm saying?
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It's like people it's easier to believe the Friday Night Lights characters and the One Tree Hill characters like those were just like normal characters that people could believe you are as opposed to this like you're playing a doctor.
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I guess even still Alan Pompeo was like people went into fucking surgery because of me but like people merge it too much and so when you're walking and you're like am I more like this or am I this character it can get fucking confusing.
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How did you approach your dating life in your 20s?
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I know. I'm like, damn, you're just constantly saying, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
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That's also what you have to do to your wife. Whenever I'm having a problem with my husband, he'll be like, what was I even thinking? I'm so sorry. I love you. I've learned better.
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Can we talk a little bit about modern dating culture? Because I know like you're kind of saying you have obviously very strong opinions.
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Casual dating. What do you feel about that for people?
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I think that some women would ask back to you, Penn. I wish he didn't feel like it was casual.
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Because he may just actually be like, oh, I don't like you.
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Okay, your podcast obviously focuses on people's like middle school experiences. So I kind of want to like go back a little bit today with you. Yeah, sure. Let's go back to yours. How would you have described yourself as a kid?
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and make eye contact with the camera. Wait, I actually don't know if you said sow.
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To have sex with a lot of women. Yeah. Like they're fucking around.
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Not the oats. It's more just they fuck around.
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Yes. Okay. Now, see, this makes more sense. Maybe someone will start saying that in Gen Z and you're going to trend it back upwards. Okay.
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Okay, so how do you feel about casual sex? Not now, obviously.
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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Penn Badgley, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Hello. Thank you. I'm so happy you're here. So you said this is not normally what you would wear. Is this what anyone would normally wear? No. What would you usually be wearing?
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I think it's a great question to pose to the girls listening. Yeah. People obviously always say relationships are hard. They're hard work. They're a lot of work. But what does that tangibly look like to you? To work on a relationship?
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like, because I was going to ask, I know obviously your wife has a child from a previous relationship. And when you were starting to date, that takes another level of commitment and stability. And like, how did you know that was something you were ready for?
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That's beautiful. I also love like just like hearing the way that you talk about your relationship. It's so nice to hear again almost back to the way that you're parenting about like listening and apologizing and doing things that are like not typically what you would think like a man is leading with.
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I think it's really refreshing to hear because I know even you've talked about with your wife that you guys like early on in your relationship took breaks and And I think like so much of what you've shared is quite helpful to people because I know there's people listening who are trying to figure it out. And I think people obviously look up to you.
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So when you're more open, obviously, with what you're comfortable, I think it's nice to hear when you are willing to share that kind of detail about your relationship. Because I know that there's people like, holy shit, can I be a good mother or father to another child? You know what I mean?
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It's like definitely a... it's definitely become something that I think people almost like aren't even noticing. And it's like these games and it's like, we don't have to do any of that. And I definitely felt like I did it. I was a part of the cycle. I was like in it heavy. That's how I literally started this show.
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Yeah. I was like, oh, we're going to flip it on its head and we're going to like do what men do to us. And then eventually when I met my husband.
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Exactly. And then I literally met my husband and I was like, oh my God, I'm literally not.
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Take it out. I want to talk to you about you though, because I do think there's a lot of themes. The show. in it that are- It's all this. Kind of, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Before we get to that, is it true you also almost turned this role down?
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Okay, so you eventually were like, yes, I'm gonna do it.
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I do, though, as I was just listening to you say that, though, it just made me realize, which is incredible for you as an actor, I do think this now is holding a light to Gossip Girl, where it's like you now are really known. Yeah. You could be on one side of the street and someone's going to know you as Gossip Girl, and then the other side is going to be you.
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And I actually feel like that is the hardest uphill battle to, like we were just saying, to do, to have people not just think of you as one character.
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Now we need another basic name for the third. Who's the third going to be? Dan, Joe, and?
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Carl. No. That's not basic. I hate that. That's not. Okay. A huge theme is obviously toxic masculinity. How have you approached being a character that is like completely toxic? I mean, beyond toxic. Is it a weird headspace to be in?
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Because did you feel that way when you were alone or was it a lot of like people saying things about you? Because I feel like when you're at that age, it's always like kids are going to make you realize things. You're like, wait, my parents made me think I was great.
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No, I was just asking, is it weird to get into this character that's really fucked up?
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The final season. Do you think fans are going to be happy with the ending?
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Okay, I'm going to end the episode the same way you end some of yours. If you could go back and talk to your 12-year-old self, what would you say?
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Maybe you're going to bring the band back. Fuck acting.
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Penn, thank you so much for coming on Call Our Daddy. That was truly a pleasure.
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It's really nice podcasting with podcasters.
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Okay. Everyone that follows you is like, what are the green pants?
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But also I feel like because I talked to my mom about this a lot because she was an only child and her parents didn't have a great relationship. So I feel like it makes you grow up pretty quickly because you are like it's almost like you're one in three adults. It feels like immediately.
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Yeah. So being an only child from your experience growing up, like what how would you have described your relationship with your parents?
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So you moved and your parents got divorced around the time that you moved here for acting? And did your dad stay? Yeah. and your mom picked up and left with you.
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Is there like a... core memory that comes to mind when you think about like a moment from your childhood where you remember being like oh my parents don't have the healthiest relationship
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That's really interesting about the dancing thing because I feel like I've talked to people before who are like, I literally because obviously you either replicate or try to do the opposite of what you watch your parents do from a young age. So for you to like watch a form of intimacy at 14 years old and be like, what are this is so strange to watch them dance and like hug and be cordial.
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Like when you were younger, did you ever have romantic relationships that you felt comfortable being overly affectionate?
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Okay, I love that for you. Your wife is pregnant with twins. Are you ready?
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I think that also makes sense because you didn't have anything like that at home. Then I think once you taste it and you feel it, okay, where these analogies are.
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Fuck. But I think then once you probably felt that you're like going to crave it because it's like I can't get any of that at home. Whereas maybe someone like was like, OK, I've seen it. I know it's out there again. We're once you.
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Yes. Yes. Now being a father, I'm curious if there were any like behaviors that you witnessed as a kid in your house that you are never want your kids to experience.
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When you found out that you were having twins... What was the reaction and emotion?
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But I get what you're saying. I also think it's like as you get older, I'm sure you've realized like it's weird when you have resentment of your childhood. And then as you become a parent. So I've heard it's like, oh, wow. They were all it is. They were really doing the best that they could. And it doesn't mean that you didn't experience what you experienced.
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But it also puts more in perspective like it wasn't so fucking personal. Sometimes I can't speak for everyone's experience.
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I fucked up. It's okay, it's okay. Okay, reaction.
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But he's allowed to be. Yeah, he's three. You got to keep it together.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Do you think the people that wear like ashes like around their neck or a little or do you do that?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Do you say I'm nothing? I'm nothing.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
gone but the asshole ready to go really ready okay we're currently in Brooklyn in a random person's house I like literally have no idea where we are yeah so they'll come in at any moment and kick us out but until then what would you say is the most New York quality about you I think that I like don't give a fuck and that like just in terms of like on the subway or whatever I'll be like move in you know
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Okay. You grew up in the city, but you were born in Long Island? No. I was born in the city, and then I grew up on Long Island. Okay. Yeah. I went backwards. Sorry. How would you have described yourself as a kid?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
I need to picture you like in school, like little Amy.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Wait, did you want to be like an actress growing up or did you want to be like a pro volley?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
So then you leaned into theater. Majored in theater. Okay. What was the most unhinged thing you did at school? Like you're the class con, like you're fucking shit up.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
We that the confidence it takes if it was freshman year to go for president and seniors are looking at you like you fucking piece of shit back up. Yeah. Like where did you get confidence from like that?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
How would you describe your social life? So you're funny. Like, did people like the funny kid or were you like alienated? No friends.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Yeah, because I know your life kind of flipped upside down around like 10. Yeah.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
To go from being comfortable to then all of a sudden having your parents go bankrupt, do you remember that conversation? How did you find out? Because usually that's an overnight thing, right?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
I need to tell you one more story before I start asking you questions, though, just to get this off my chest. Okay. I'm not a freak. Like, I'm not a freak fan, but I do love you.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Yeah. Do you remember how it was explained to you? Like how your parents lost all the money? I don't remember that.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
You know, that is like so disorienting when you become an adult because you're like, oh, Which one of you is a compulsive liar? And am I going to do that to my children one day? And are we all just completely remembering things in the way that allowed us to just move on?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
can I ask you because I know you mentioned it earlier like the your mom sounds amazing don't you love no the preface don't you love when like live for her she's the greatest Jennifer go Jen I will say it's so funny having like public platforms because my parents are always like we love how you just like talk about us and I'm like well it's my fucking life sorry um I love the no socks we did you wear no socks with those shoes
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Your hand is shaking. My hand is shaking. Okay? She's literally exhausted, you guys, from holding the mic. Because I'm panting. Back to your mother. Oh, yeah. Sorry. So, your mom had an affair with your best friend's dad. Right. How was that told to you? It was told to me, like...
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
i'm around the age she was i'm like look you don't know i know okay like there's a lot of fucked up shit that goes on yeah she kept a roof over our heads i don't know that's true i also feel like when you get to that age like again like they're you're told such different things because you don't know really what's going on behind the scenes and your mom and your dad's relationship and all these things and now that you're like married and you have a child you're like oh i'm seeing it a
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Then we're fucking popping over. Let's go. Are you someone that typically handles bad news well? Do you black out? Are you people pleasing? I handle it well.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
and you and you you're not asking me a fucking question okay this is about you we only got a certain amount of time like we are focused on amy is someone coming in here after me no oh my god i only do one basically like a week i gotta be i gotta be lubed up for you you are amazing you're not like on the casting couch and we're not rotating this shit it's you and only you look at my favorite board yeah
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Yes. The thing is, is I and I swim, but I'm like, this is 20 pounds. Can I just clear my name for a second? I always have mic stands. Always. You are the exception. Because I'm like, I'm sweating and my hand's sweating, but it's fine and I'm honored. It's only because this is not my normal studio.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
You start massaging your foot mid-interview. You are one of the most successful women, obviously, in comedy. When were you like, I'm turning this shit into a fucking career. Let's go.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
um how often are you back babs is here i'm fucking dead um how often are you using your roasting skills like are you someone like fucking roasting your friends yeah like my yeah your best friends like that's all you do we just trash each other the whole time um
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
We didn't know where to put the mic stand and I didn't want it to cover your face because you look gorgeous. No, thank you. So you're going to have to buck up. Okay. And you're going to have to do a little weight training today. Okay. So shut the fuck up. Let me engage my core and move on. Now let me tell you like a loving story while you engage the core. Yes.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Disgusting human beings. Isn't it the best where you're like, no, I am a good person, but the shit I say with my husband.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
We're talking about comedy today, but any other industry that you pick up, yes, it is male dominated at all times. But yours happens to be comedy. So we're going to talk about the men in that industry.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Did you ever have an experience like that was so obvious to you where you were like, wow, I'm literally not being taken as seriously because I don't have a dick?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
It was the year that train wreck came out and I live in Boston. I'm in college and I am literally at like what feels like the end of the road. I am so fucking miserable. I'm at the worst place in my life. What feels like it because like a boy was breaking up with me. Yeah. And I was miserable. My mom flies to Boston and it's like, I have to cheer you up. It's getting really scary over there.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
No, it is like it's I appreciate you saying that. Yeah. As sad as it is, you're like every day, every waking minute of my fucking life.
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And how sad that like we are in these privileged positions. And I'm like, wow, like I'm like a privileged white woman and I fucking feel it all the time. Like, can you?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
And it is like a random Tuesday and we go to the movie theater and I'm walking around because my mom's like, we got to just see a movie. And I'm like, train wreck like me. Like, let's just see it. Like, here we go. I walk in, I sob the entire movie. And then when I leave, I'm like, oh, I'm a new fucking bitch. Like I'm going to reverse the roles on the men. Fuck this shit. Let's fucking go.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
right someone quote that that's gonna be like on the internet like no you're right you know what i'm saying it's so true and it's really i appreciate you saying this because i was gonna ask you that today because obviously like the state of our world we don't need to get into it because it's like we would be here for 19 hours and we would start crying yeah literally kill ourselves but i think especially as women it's interesting because i've had people ask me like advice
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
And in some capacity, I try as fucking hard as I can. But I'm also like, like I mentioned earlier, we're privileged. And on top of that, like it literally hasn't gotten that much better. If anything, it's like people do it like sneakier around me, but I'm still experienced like misogynistic fucks that are like.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
essentially criticizing me for XYZ or saying stuff about like oh if she if she ever talked about sex then she's just like forever a whore like I feel like at one point people really tried to pin you as just like a sex comic every every woman is like a whore what woman is what woman like steps out of into the spotlight and is not just like
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
It's just the level of whoriness. But why do you think men are so frustrated when women talk about sex?
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and here we are yeah losing rights by the day um in your dating life did you ever feel like because you were in the beginning so open about talking about sex did you ever feel like guys had specific expectations of you if you were going to hook up with them because of how open you were about bedroom stuff that's a good question i don't think they did i i think they could tell i was full of shit
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
And then they respond and you're like, wait, what did I send? That was me to you. So I, for context, everyone listening, I sent Amy a DM in 2021. I don't even remember who I was at that point in my life. No, you were not yet born. I was not born. Yes. And I send her basically saying like, you've got to come on the show. Like, I love you, blah, blah, blah.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
And that movie, I know it sounds corny, but like you didn't know me at that point, but it literally changed my mindset in that moment. And it helped me through like a really tough time. I'm so thanks. No, stop.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
He probably just wanted to... Those are the worst moments where you're there and you're like, wait... I was bluffing. I don't actually like this. Like I was like trying to say a big game and like, please stop.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Terrified. Behind closed doors, like in your 20s and 30s, how did you like what was your relationship to your sex in your body?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Which I think is like probably more normal than not. Like I'm telling you, there are so many women that message me and are like, I literally have no, I don't feel anything. And I'm like, it's because like half of the time when you go to have sex for the first time, the guy is enjoying it. No woman is having an orgasm the first time or second time they're having sex.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Like you don't know what you're doing. So I think that's like a normal thing to say.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Is that the third line or the fifth? Which one was that again? No, listen, I get it. Like I think in the early days of my show, I used to talk so openly, like over the top openly that maybe it made some people uncomfortable, but it was like almost like trying to go above and beyond to normalize it for women because it's not normalized for women.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
So I appreciate you saying that because I think there's so many women that are going to listen to this. Not that you need to be like the advocate for like,
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
No, I appreciate you saying that. I think there's a lot of people that have experienced that. And I am absolutely not coming every time whatsoever from penetration. But my vibrator does the trick. God bless. God bless. Okay, when do you feel you're most confident? On stage. Doing stand-up.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Yeah. When obviously like I think every again woman in the industry I'm not saying men don't experience it but women obviously like tenfold like there's so much conversation about the way we look and who we are and our bodies and all the conversations and people feel so inclined to be like I have so many thoughts about it which is fucking insane.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Was there ever a point around like the conversation around like how you looked like impacted your self-worth?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
fuck this interview like everyone's like get the fuck out no I think that's like really great to hear because I you can almost see when specific women that are public figures because those are the only people we get to watch unless you're like staring at your neighbor like a freak um there you can tell when someone's going through it you can tell when like everyone is picking her part everyone is and I'm always like god damn this is not natural I wonder how she's doing so it's nice to hear that you're like I'm fucking hot bitch I like I believe that I'm hot
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
How would your friends describe you in three words? Loyal. Psychotic. Funny. Love.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Amy Schumer, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you so very much, Alex Cooper. I am so happy we're finally meeting. Me too. No, I need to tell you, I was saying this this morning to my friends. I said, okay, have you ever sent a DM and forgot you sent it?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
I am so sorry, but I'm happy that you're okay. Thank you. But I want to say something else.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
I think that's like really incredible, but you did.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
the fucking toe I can't I can't wait are you like Chelsea Handler like you get grossed out by feet well oh it's just that I don't have a like a pedicure no I don't give a shit about the pedicure I'm just shocked you don't have socks on that's my only note and then I'm gonna keep it because of the cold no because like who the fuck shows up to an interview with no socks on and shows up also with sneakers on with no socks on okay but ma'am you also are dressed like you're in hospice so like why
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
It's so cozy. It's so cozy. Come on. Can we talk about your husband? I'd love to. Chris. Chris. And he's a chef? Yep. Okay. Is it true that if you are married to a chef, like they never cook for you because they're cooking all the time? No, that's... That's not true. Oh, my God. I have to tell my friend who literally is married to a chef and she's like, it just sucks because he never cooks for me.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
He literally hates you. Wait. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Yeah, he's five and a half. Have you shown him any of your movies?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
I haven't seen it yet. Okay. Everyone's going to be like, Wicked?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
It's a little much. Yeah. But the first couple hits were good. And then when you guys took out the whole sidecar of the restaurant, I was like, Jesus.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Like, it'll be kind of pregnant all, like it's the Wicked, but yeah.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
No, it's the beginning of the movie. Fuck. Cut this. Cut this. Something crazy happens on a Zamboni.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
No, no, no, no. And it's not too, like... No. I mean, you know. Not to... Just to quickly, because I know you've talked about this before, but you...
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
talked about how your husband has autism how did you guys like decide to be public about that not that you shouldn't i'm just curious like it's kind of well i didn't ask him no i'm just kidding um just one night well we were the way it happened was i was gonna document
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Another Oscar coming. Yeah. Okay, what is the craziest fan interaction you've ever had? I guess them eating me out.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
I just wanted you to say it slow so I could say it with you.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
I agree. Like, I think it's nice. Obviously, it's not, like, his burden to bear to be, like, the poster child. But, like, it's nice. I agree because there are so many people. But it's, like, there's a stigma around it, which there shouldn't be.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
But God, that doesn't hurt. And someone you can talk shit with. Done. Can we talk about your new movie, even though I ruined the entire ending? Yes. I'm going to cut it. Yes. Did you have any more spoilers you wanted to... No, I'm going to go through the entire movie. No, I was cackling.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
I was saying to everyone this morning, I'm like, I... It was so nice seeing you lead another movie because you are so physically funny comedy-wise. Like, the way you...
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
that sounds so creepy but like move your body and you're just like very very physically funny and that is like a hard thing to do obviously you're like verbally funny yeah but you're just so fucking good that's so nice and it's an honor to sit on this couch with you oh my god this is such a nice couch
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
So the entire movie is like hilarious. It's like every single scene I feel like just keeps ramping up, ramping up like the knife in the child scene. I was like, oh, no, no one's going to see it because it's like, no, no, no. I didn't say that. I said knife in the child scene.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
They're like, it's a horror film. No, no, no. It is one of the funniest scenes.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
No child is stabbed. Child holding knife. Funny.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
And scene. And scene. But one of my favorite themes in the movie is the fact that these women, it's all about timelines. And I feel like that is the most fucking realistic conversation I have on the show. So often it's like everyone comparing like the timeline here and, Oh, you're having a baby, but I'm not engaged yet, but you're divorced. And Oh my God.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
And I'm single and I want kids or I'm doing IVF or I can't get pregnant. Like there's so much. And the reason that we get anxious is because we're looking around and we're like, where am I? Where am I? Like how, how do I fit in asking you? It's insane. How do you think this movie does a good job of like,
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
No, it's so true. And I feel like also as you get older, especially with kids or someone that's not having kids, like there feels like there can be this disparity within friendships where I have so many women right and being like, oh, my God, I like I feel like I'm getting disconnected to my friend because she just got married and I'm single. And I'm like, I so get that that could be a feeling.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Yeah. But that. Who gives a shit where you're each at? Like the reason you're friends is because you like each other as human beings. Yeah.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
No, and that's what I was going to say. Like, I feel like people can read the room better. If you are a mother and you know your friend has been struggling and whether she can't have kids or she doesn't want to have kids, stop being the one being like, let me just show you one more photo. That's sick. Knock it off.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
And I feel like your movie, though, brings light to what is a very sensitive topic. And I...
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
i found a lot of like i don't know i just enjoyed it because yes there is so much negative around it of like you we aren't allowed to talk about this and then it's like oh we're bitching if we talk about it too much but if we don't open up about it then we're not honest and real and like there's just so much that goes into being a fucking woman like we've talked about this entire episode um and i promise i'm wrapping up but um i'm having the best time you are you are did you have a good time yeah like are you gonna leave here and be like i'm gonna leave here and be like i feel like i just hung out with a good friend
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
I hope that's not embarrassing. No, no, no. I was so vulnerable at the beginning of this telling you I was like kind of like a fucking fan and I'm like DMing you like a creep. And now. So nice. Now we have like cred. Like now if I DM you, you're going to answer me not in like three years.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
You'll answer me like tomorrow. Two years. Amy Schumer, thank you for coming. Call her daddy. Thanks for having me. You're amazing.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
first of all hold on a professional athlete was a fan of yours why is that so shocking no sorry no why i'm saying it's not you know when you're young and you're in the spotlight you you know you you i mean i look i know you ma'am no i'm more saying like was he at like a fan event no i've never i don't think i've ever been to a fan event but he was at a show he was at a show he was at a show can i ask of all the sports what sport and then we're moving on baseball
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Three and a half years later, I see you saying like, oh my gosh, just saw this. And it was just in the preview. So I'm like, what the fuck did I say? Like, I'm like, what did I say to this woman? Like, were you drunk? No, literally. I'm like hammered her high and I'm like, Amy. And thank God you were like sweet and nice. And you're like, okay, I'll see you soon. Oh my God.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Have you had sex with my ex-boyfriend? No.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
And that's from real life. I love that so much for you. No, it's kind of amazing. That's like a full circle moment. I'm appreciating that story right now. That's good for Call Her Daddy. Thank you for the tea.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Well, because I guess like the furious makes sense because it's like, wow, are you saying I'm that bad? Like you're falling asleep.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
and again this mic is so heavy no i know but you're young my bones are old and they're confused what if you prop it up on the pillow no okay okay we tried it on who would be your celebrity hall pass
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
You know, now that you say that. Wait, can I ask who yours is? Specifically as the pirate Johnny Depp. Like as. Interesting. As the pirate. I'm shocked. With the. You want the makeup. I want the makeup. Jewelries. The hair. Yeah. I want the little cloak. Like his little skirt. Right. I want the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get those rings.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Yeah, like I did, but not anymore. Okay.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
I'm not like a mushroom girl. You're not? I don't know if I need, like I'm worried it's going to like affect my brain. Like in the morning, I'm like. That's smart. Okay.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Thank you. What is the craziest rumor you've ever heard about yourself?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
I am so confused. Yeah, this is good. OK, what is what is one of your biggest pet peeves?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Okay, I definitely don't do that. No, but do you know what I mean, right? I say and. Yeah, and. Like, and let's keep it fucking moving.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
um so we were at the store yeah and oh i know what you're talking you know what i'm saying when you put it in the context of that done okay i also agree with all of those things and you haven't insulted me yet so this is good which i'm fine if you roast me at some point in this interview don't hold back but i hate pickleball too actually i've never played it so i can't say i've never played it either that doesn't mean we can't fuck that shit yeah okay
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
If you play, let me know and I'll like go for the first time with you.
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
What is the greatest length you've gone to get out of plans?
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Amy Schumer: Pro Athletes, Porn & Pretending to C*m
Do you ever feel guilty about like doing a lie when it has to do with actual illness? Like I think I like lied a couple of times about my grandma dying. They're like again. I was one of those people for a while, but it was to like each different man. So I was like, this isn't like making headway like to different people.
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But then I started to be like, oh, fuck, like someone's going to die because I keep saying someone's fucking dying.
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Jane Goodall: 91 & Thriving
Hello, Daddy Gang. Welcome back to another episode of Call Her Daddy. This week's guest is Jane Goodall. I am freaking out, okay? I am so excited for you to watch this episode. Jane has dedicated her life to science and has made groundbreaking discoveries. She is truly a trailblazer and has paved the way forward for generations of women. Before we get into this interview...
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Jane Goodall: 91 & Thriving
But studying chimps in the wild, like, I need to understand from your perspective, you weren't going into a lab. You're going into the wilderness. You're going to be surrounded by animals. At the time, you had no formal training. Like, were you scared at all or did you have any hesitations?
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Jane Goodall: 91 & Thriving
incredible to know that you basically took a pretty untraditional trajectory with your life and you took a risk and you went for something that you know you were passionate about could you give any of my listeners but we have a lot of young women listening who maybe they're thinking right now like should i take a risk whether it's with their career or their life trajectory what it whatever it be like do you have any advice in taking risks as a young adult
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It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Dr. Jane Goodall, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Hi. Hello. How are you doing?
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It's such a great lesson because I feel like there's two types of people growing up. Either there's the person similar to yourself where you have this unwavering, undying love for something that you just know innately in your soul. Like I have been called to do this. I want to do this. And then there are people who are a little lost or confused. And that is also a very normal path.
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And they have to find what they love and they have to find what they're passionate about. And I think a lot of times people in that category find themselves just trying to do things that other people are doing around them because, oh, well, my friend's doing this. Maybe I will do it. And it's hard to just originally find what makes you happy.
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So I love that advice of like, if you genuinely to your core know that this isn't what you want, well, first you need to just try it to know you don't want it and to go for it first. And then if you hate it. Yeah.
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I think that's a very important topic that you just brought up that I think would be very interesting. helpful for people listening also about feeling like, you know, being a stay at home mom in a beautiful way. I think there's a lot of women who are now trailblazing in specific industries.
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And that's obviously such an incredible accomplishment that women are even allowed to sit next to men in rooms now. But I also think that there is no doubt that being a mother is a full time job. And and to not acknowledge the women who are fulfilled by that is also putting women down in a different capacity. It is in a different way.
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Jane, I just want to pause. I wish everyone could hear that. That's incredible. And yet so many people don't believe that.
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We need both. We do. And I feel like especially in the social and political climate right now, the brute is being rewarded. And people think that being tough and masculine and aggressive is the way to always go. And we always see the pendulum swing. Once we've had enough of that, then we will go back to the nurturing.
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And if we were able to establish a more like coexisting life, then both things could be present at the same time. But I feel like we're going so far to one side that then we almost feel like we have to overcorrect and go to the other. And it's exhausting.
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It's not. And I can't imagine the feeling it evokes in you to have watched women start to garner more rights only for it to almost be taken away to the point that we're losing more than previous generations for us. Something I was thinking about with your career also is, you know, you talked about how there was no one really, it wasn't even a male dominated field. It wasn't a field.
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And so you were venturing into this Unknown territory. Yes, yes. Which is exciting and exhilarating. But I'm curious about the aspect of isolation. Like, in any... form and time during your career where you're experiencing being alone in these pretty intense moments? Like, did you feel lonely or were you just alone?
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That's why I'm really excited that you're here today because you walk into a room and I can just feel your wisdom and the things that you have learned throughout your life. It's like an honor to even just get to sit down with you for an hour. I love how you're like working so hard and it's, isn't it your birthday tomorrow?
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Understandably, I'll never probably understand like the level that you're describing of being immersed in that world and being alone, but I think we can all relate on some level of if you do go watch a sunset by yourself and you're sitting in a canyon or your backyard and you're alone, And when you do things solo, there is like a deeper connection that you have.
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If you take a walk on the beach and there's no one there, if you're in water and you're alone, like there is being alone has so much power because you're really forced to also like connect with all of your senses. But it's so rare, I believe, that the recent generations are doing that because they've always got the phone and they have- Yes, oh yes, that thing, Jane, that thing.
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Could you give any advice on how can young adults get more comfortable with being alone?
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No, because I think something that I envy, honestly, and I'm sure there are gonna be people listening to this, that it's almost like, It can make people emotional is like the way that you talk about this like genuine happiness and this connectivity you felt in your life to being at a place in time where you were so immersed in a world and completely disconnected from yourself.
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humanity and all those things that really bring just more crap to our lives and moments yes it's beautiful to connect with humans but we rarely are alone I feel like there's a lot of young kids that feel like they're alone and they're laying in their bed but then they're scrolling and they're watching other people and so they're just observing
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what other human beings are doing and what other people are feeling and talking about and you're just not actually having to self-reflect in any capacity you're actually just like consuming an exorbitant amount of content that is then like shaping the next hour of your life and then you're standing up and you feel depressed and you're curious as to why you don't feel fulfilled and it's like because you just watched everyone else living and you just sat and consumed it for hours now go live your life and i think that's what's so
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incredible about your story and your journey is how much you went and have lived and experienced and you love life. Can you share with me the moment that you obviously had this incredibly huge breakthrough discovery when you observed a chimpanzee using tools in the wild? What does that moment mean to you still to this day?
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You obviously had this incredibly huge breakthrough discovery when you observed a chimpanzee using tools in the wild. What does that moment mean to you still to this day?
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You have had so many moments in your career where you've had to walk into rooms and explain something that maybe people had never heard before, where you're like, no, trust me. I saw it. This is what happened. And I think a lot of that takes time. Yes, having the truth on your side, but confidence to be able to walk into a room and do that.
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Like, do you have advice for women listening of how they can advocate for themselves in an intimidating work situation? Hmm.
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Do you ever take time for yourself? Like, are you going to celebrate on your 91st birthday? What are we doing tomorrow, Jane?
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Like, I think there's a lot of people that are crippled with that anxiety of like, I can't, I can't, I can't. Like, where do you internally go when you need to push through in moments?
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That's so real, though. Because then once it's over, you're like, oh, that wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Well, I found I could do it, you see. Can we talk about the National Geographic? You were on the cover. And the first cover you had, there was this intense focus. Well, it was obviously supposed to be about the work and your research.
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But there was an intense focus around you and how you looked and your body and What types of comments were people making about you?
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I didn't bring you a cake today because I knew you always get cakes from people. So I brought you whiskey instead. Oh, that's super. You like whiskey, right?
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Oh, my gosh. It's so typical, though, right? Like, try to discredit a woman because, well, she got there because of what she was wearing and her looks and blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, it's... It's actually like the most obvious weakest response to something. How do you think? women can flip the script and use the way that people sexualize us and objectify us to our advantage.
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I mean, it's hard because I think there's a line of like, how far you lean into how much people sexualize us as women. And I think that There's going to innately be moments where someone says something inappropriate to you at work or a man is trying to discredit you because your work can't be that good.
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It's because you're hot and because people are giving you the position because of the way you look. I think a lot of it in what we're talking about, and it's kind of the theme of this episode, actually just comes back to like, how are you internally good with yourself? And do you know your worth? Do you know your value? And are you...
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capable of standing in a room and as uncomfortable as comments can be, you leave and you don't feel like those knocked you down. If anything, you're able to take it, recognize the game that they're playing, but keep it moving because... you're confident in what you bring to the table. And yeah, you may also be very attractive and that's okay.
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Okay. Can we talk a little bit about relationships? You ended up marrying a photographer from National Geographic. Can you tell me the story of how you two met?
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I know that you kind of have said previously that you and your husband at the time drifted apart because your careers were moving in different directions. And I'm curious, like, How did you navigate, because it's a very relatable topic, navigating deciding between work and relationships? How did you do that?
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What do you think is your favorite part of aging and getting older as a woman?
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That is so sweet. And I love that your mom was like, water doesn't agree with me. I'm more of a whiskey gal. What is your favorite kind of whiskey? Oh, I...
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It would be nice, Jane. We talked a little bit about earlier in the episode when we were talking just about how you really talk so much about hope and how important it is to have hope. And I think a lot of my listeners feel anxious and lost right now because of what is happening in the world. Like, do you have any message? Yeah. of how to stay hopeful.
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I did want to take a moment to acknowledge that I think that this episode might be a little different than what you're used to on Call Her Daddy every week. I know a lot of you come here to get to know some of the biggest celebrities on a more It obviously doesn't hurt when they spill some tea.
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I got you one that's like, it's my favorite whiskey recently. It's this Japanese whiskey. Oh, that's very good. You'll be taking it home today. What did you do for your 90th birthday? That's a big one.
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I am so honored that I got to sit down with you today. You and the way that you look at life is so inspiring. And I think I will admit like I'm a businesswoman running around all day and I have meetings and I'm trying to do all these things. And it is very humbling, honestly, to sit with someone like you who has such the right understanding of what we should be Do you have that?
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It doesn't feel like there's much you can do. And I think today it's such a perfect example of like, but you can get involved and you can do something because something that stuck with me is like, these are people who are so happy. And why are they happy? Because they're doing something good and they're giving back. We all know how it feels on the most vain level to like give a gift to someone.
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It's always better to give than receive because you're like, oh my gosh, I feel that feeling can ignite something in future generations of coming together and making a difference because it is going to impact. my children and then the next generation of children and so forth. So thank you so much for taking your time today.
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I know you were very busy and I'm just honored that I got to sit down with you, Jane. Thank you so much.
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See, that's why I brought Henry today. I have not. I said to you, I said, I have not brought Henry in a while because you want to be respectful. You don't know when people are dog, people are not. And when I knew that you're a dog person immediately, selfishly, I'm like, Henry needs to meet the great Jane. Like I was like, you have to meet him and he needs to meet you. 90 dogs.
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I like believe maybe that's like a part of what heaven feels like is just like you open your eyes and there's just dogs everywhere, happy, running free.
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I love it. You mentioned you travel 300 days a year for work. Jane, I get exhausted from a week of travel. What is your secret? How do you do it?
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But you saying that you feel like you've been put on this earth with this mission, does it ever feel... like too much of a burden to carry on your own and how as much as you put into it, if you're not getting out of it, like, do you ever become exhausted?
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But sometimes I think it's good to switch it up and step away from the conversations that we're having on social media constantly, 24-7. And so I wanted to sit down with someone who has spent their life truly connected to the real world. And that is why this conversation with Jane is genuinely so special because
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Wow. How incredible that is. you have left such a legacy that whether you were doing it or not doing it, it will now live on forever, hopefully. You said you have left. I'm not dead yet. No, I'm saying if you left and stopped, Jane. I mean, if you left and you decided, like, it's time to retire. Like, I want to just go and relax on a beach somewhere.
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Like, if you decided to not do it, like, that is, I feel like, the test of a real legacy is knowing that it is going to just keep living on because you've like touched so many people. No, not yet.
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Your little friend sitting next to you, what is his name again? Mr. H. Mr. H. Okay, I need this story because I wanted to ask you, obviously you've had such an incredible career, but for some of my younger audience who maybe are becoming fans of you today or are fans of you, Can you talk about how you got into what you do and what you love? And also, how does Mr. H play into your story?
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Okay, well, let me deal with Mr. H first. Okay, let's get to it.
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I feel like there's so many people that could be listening that...
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envy that right because so much of when you're young you're able to flourish based off of the environment that you grow up in and there's a lot of kids that dream of things and maybe it's cute when they're young but as they start to get old then the adults are like that's not realistic you can't make a career out of that right that's exactly right when you told people that your dream in life was to go to Africa and to research
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Dr. Jane Goodall is 91 years old, the oldest guest that we've had on Call Her Daddy, and the wisdom that she carries is unlike anything that I've ever experienced. Sitting across from her, I felt it. Her presence, her perspective, it was so grounding in a way that I didn't realize I even needed, and I want you to feel that too today. So,
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What was the reaction? When you told people that your dream in life was to go to Africa and to research, what was their reaction?
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don't you? I find it hard, but I feel like I talked so much to my grandmother about her life because I just naturally want to know about people's life experiences. So if anything, I think there's a part now where we envy that. And I know that probably sounds weird. We're like, I envy...
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the older generations having a much more like simplistic lifestyle because I do think it's kind of like corroding our brains in a capacity. No doubt. Yeah.
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I'm curious if you saw, because it's incredible the way you're speaking about your mom and how impactful she was in giving you this confidence to go forward with your dream. Did you see your mom change?
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living her life the way that she encouraged you to do it because i feel like sometimes with generations it's like they didn't get to do certain things so then they're like with their kids they're like go and do it and do it all i wish i could have like was your mom someone that got to live out her dreams
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Yeah. And I'm sure there was something, I mean, I'm not a mother, but from what I can understand and talking to so many women who have children, like there is something innately in you that you want your child to have a better life than you have even more experiences and more opportunities. And it's just, I think it's beautiful to hear the way that you speak about your mother and how much she was
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willing to sacrifice in her life to make sure that you got what you needed. Parents.
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But make them feel good. But I bet that's what your mom in her brain was like, oh, there's no way Jane's actually going to go to Africa. There's no way she's... And then you did it all. How often do you think in your career were you... prejudged for being a woman and the way that you looked, and then slowly you were able to garner the respect because of the work you were putting in?
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That is kind of incredible and also hilarious of like this relationship that we all feel like we grew up with, whether people wished they had that relationship with their mom or they find similarities or differences. And it was like such a
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heartstring puller then it's like you're like oh we quickly met and then we got off to the races it worked what do you remember of like those first few scenes shooting with alexis because like did you feel the immediate chemistry were you guys trying to figure out your vibe together no i mean i i think we did just feel the immediate chemistry you know we are very different energies she is a shyer quieter person
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Okay, I'm going to ask you some rapid fire Gilmore Girl questions. Stars Hollow is so iconic, obviously. What was your favorite place there?
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But like, we're so fortunate to have this weather. Like I want to stay in it forever.
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I'm dead. Okay, which castmate is most like their character in real life?
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OK, what Lorelei line is most often quoted back to you? I mean, oi with the poodles already, I guess. That's good. That's good. Okay, Lorelai has some amazing outfits. Did you ever use your own clothes from your own closet? I think I did.
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So fun. OK, what storyline was a little hard for you to get behind?
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Which of Rory's boyfriends do you think was the best fit for her in the long run? You know, you can't get me.
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The frogs. Okay, which of Lorelai's partners did you like the best? I mean, Luke is the right answer for sure. Yeah, Luke. Yep. Okay. You previously said you did not date Scott Patterson, obviously who plays Luke in the show, but you did date a couple of the other guys on the set of Gilmore Girls. I know you're not going to tell me. Can I ask though, was it anyone that Lorelai ever dated? Yes.
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No, are you kidding me? I love that for you. Okay, quickly want to go through some memorable scenes. Can you tell I'm a fan?
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I hope I remember them. I'm like, wait, just one more. time. No, actually, it's good if you don't. Like, let's get through it. Okay, I'm going to give you a moment. Tell me what you remember, any behind the scenes, how you felt, whatever it was. Okay. When Lorelai and Rory get hit on by the same guy at Luke's diner, first scene of the pilot.
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It was amazing. Okay. When Lorelai and Luke finally have their first kiss. When was that? You guys are like on the porch. I think it was this...
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It's too slow. I also can't do it. I don't also do hikes as often as I probably should when I'm hiking. But yoga, I'm the same way. I'm like, and hot yoga. Yeah. Truly fuck off. Okay, when you aren't working, what is your favorite way to spend an off day?
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season four finale you guys are on the porch that early season four you like pull away you're like what are you doing and he's like would you just shut up for a second and then he goes in that's so hot i know i don't remember oh it was so hot i like re with like rewind rewind yeah because like the build i love how you say that soon i'm like i was waiting that long day one day one okay when lorelei starts dating rory's teacher well i think we've learned both from lorelei and sarah braverman don't date your teacher's kid
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No, I forgot about that. I was like, Sarah and Lorelai both dated.
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Okay, when Rory slept with Dean after he got married.
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That was very out of character for her. It was. But sometimes you had to switch it up.
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When weekly dinners with Richard and Emily were the price for Rory going to Chilton.
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So okay, there we go. I used it in my work. OK, you talked about how you did not realize that the season seven finale was the end of Gilmore Girls. And I cannot imagine emotionally just being like, see you guys tomorrow or see you guys next season.
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Obviously the show came back for a revival, but when you did walk away, How did you feel knowing like, wow, the Gilmore Girls era of my life is over?
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No, and that's what I think is like nice though to hear because I think people would be like, what do you mean you didn't know? And you're like, no, I'm literally sitting there and I didn't know. So you guys come back for the revival. What was it like playing Lorelai again?
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The show ended on a bit of a cliffhanger. Total. The bigot. I was like, wait, what? How are we, wait, do you think that it could ever come back again?
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Okay. You obviously also starred in another one of my favorite shows, Parenthood. I can't tell you how many times I have rewatched that show.
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different I have to really want a show and I that I want to like dive into and like feel something yes like I can't do that when I'm like stressed with work and I'm like I'm like Gilmore Girls when I I go through it like every few years yeah My mom and I will be like, are you starting it again? I'm starting it again. You're starting it? Oh, well, then I'm going to start it again.
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You playing episode one tonight? OK, I'm playing. And we live on the opposite sides of the country. So I'm like, go, go. And then we gush over it, and it's the best. How would you describe your relationship with that cast? Well, I mean, varied. Oh, right.
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was just really fun i was recently with dax and kristen and i was like dax can you just give me like 20 minutes just give me 20 minutes and kristen i apologize we need to talk about parenthood he's like ask me anything let's go i'm going one by one i'm like tell me this tell me because it's as a fan that
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You saying that just made me realize like we're all doing it wrong. It's like, why is my coffee machine on another floor? We obviously you played historically like a character that was obsessed with coffee. What is your coffee order?
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world that was built of that family and the chaos and the beauty and the pain and the fun like you can't help but feel one parts of yourself and your own family in it or two it really does kind of take you out of your own bullshit that you're dealing with and you're like oh this family is fucking insane I love it like
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Okay, I know this is a little broad, but if you have anything that comes to mind, like, looking back at your time on that show, is there any memory or story or moment you can share with us that really sticks with you to this day when you, like, think back at that time of your life?
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Oh my God, we're both about to start crying. If you're listening to this, we both have tears in our eyes. Oh my, I was wondering like how much in parenthood and in Gilmore Girls are you kind of improvising certain lines?
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In your early career, the press would criticize you for being single and not dating. How did those comments back then affect you? Oh, God. I mean...
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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No, every time my husband sees me, he's like, you're making a milkshake. That's not a coffee. And I'm like, shut up. Watch yourself. I'm having a nice morning. Yeah. And he just drinks it black. And I'm like, you're insane. OK, wait. So then was that like a huge part that you just like randomly brought to Lorelai? Like, did you or did was that already written as the character?
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What is something that you've realized that you're not willing to compromise on?
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It definitely doesn't. We need your advice. People listening, we can use your wisdom. I'm going to give you a scenario and you're going to tell me what advice you would give the person. Okay. What is your advice for someone who feels unfulfilled by their job and wants to make a change but is too nervous to start over?
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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Lauren Graham, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you so much. I am such a fan. This is so epic and so fun. And I think that my fans, the Daddy Gang, are going to freak out that we're in the same room.
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It's great advice. Um, what would you tell someone who is struggling to connect with their friends because they're all in different life phases?
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I thought you were saying the kids eventually go to sleep. You're like, solid.
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True. Okay. What would you say to someone who feels like they put all of their focus on their career and is now worried that they're falling behind in their dating life?
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Can we talk about the essay that you wrote for Time Magazine about aging? Yeah. And you talk about how you found the humor in aging as a woman, which I thought was such a unique, beautiful take that I loved reading. What inspired you to write a piece like that?
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in worry no i completely agree with what you're saying and i had a conversation recently with um ellen pompeo and she and i were talking a little bit about how women obviously like were the ones that it's like oh she's she's getting older and then you hit 30 and it's like oh
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oh right oh and you're like what it's like i've never felt better and from what i'm taking from every woman i keep talking to is holy shit 40s are the best yeah oh my god and if you had told me that in 20 i would have been like wait 40s old and what but it's like Every person I'm talking to, it feels like women are just getting better with age.
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And it's what society is freaking women out about of like how you look, because of course, that's the only thing they think that we care about is our fucking looks. And it's like, what do you think is the best part of getting older?
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Yeah. Why I wanted to bring this whole conversation though up about aging and the different generations is obviously because of your new show. I think there's this like huge conversation obviously about like Gen Z and it's like an interesting It's interesting. Like, even just, like, us talking about – you even saying, like, we're a different age. Like, you take on the Z-suite.
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Like, what drew you to this role? Because this is different.
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No, everyone acts like we have to like all stay home from work when it rains. It's like no one leave your house or none of us also can drive apparently.
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I love that you're talking also about the character of like being good at something, but then questioning if you're good at it because if you're getting replaced or what's happening, like that's like, again, a conversation that one, I love the point of a woman being at the top because we still don't see that that often still. How crazy.
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And two, though, like being pushed out in a moment where you're probably also feeling like you're at your best.
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right when I feel like you're starting to hit your stride is when they want to then replace the women with a younger woman, which is such a crazy fucking concept because you're like, wait, no, I just had to get, wait, how am I already not in the conversation anymore?
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No, Lauren, thank you so much for coming on. This was a pleasure sitting down with you. You're so incredible. Your life is so inspiring and everything you've done. And I feel like whenever I get to sit down with someone that I have admired and been inspired by and I get to watch and then I get to like get to know them as like a real human being, it – is why I do my job.
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Like this is so fun for me. And I just thank you for taking the time because I know you're a busy woman.
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Okay, let's talk about Gilmore Girls. Okay. I'm the biggest fan. Like, I feel like I go back and forth. It depends. Usually time of year. I'm like, it just is end of September. It's about to be October. Boom, hit it again. And I just saw that according to Netflix, people spent 500 million hours watching the show in 2023. Wow. Like, I'm like, oh, I'm 100 million of those hours.
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How does it feel to know that this show is still just so loved?
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OK, you live in L.A. What is the most L.A. thing about you and the least L.A. thing about you?
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I feel like though it will have, like it has this lasting power because the themes are so relatable and the world that
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was built is so genuine and safe feeling which i think like depending on what's going on in the world like for me like when i need a show that's gonna make me feel good i'm turning it on yeah and i think especially in the next couple years people will be like replay replay go back to episode one like i to me that may be like everyone has a different experience with it but like why do you think it resonates with so many people
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Did it feel like that when you were, it's like its own world essentially of what you guys have created. Can you explain the moment to me that you realized, holy shit, this show is a hit?
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Okay, when you got the script initially, what was your first impression like now in hindsight of Lorelai? Like in that moment, do you remember?
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Well, I love how you brought it to life, though, because even you saying that, you're right. I guess someone could read on a page and be like, Lorelai is a mom. But I'm like, the way that she had this youthfulness about her, not even saying, yes, you're young as a woman at this point and still, but it's like the energy you were bringing and her independence and her own storylines were so...
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She was an individual and she was a mother at the same time. And I think you brought that to life. And it was very inspiring as a woman to watch that character because her life didn't just revolve around Rory, even though it revolved around Rory. And it felt very refreshing to see a single mother who had her own life and her career and her struggles. Like it... I loved it.
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Like, I loved watching two women of different ages work together to this, like, common goal of trying to find happiness with each other and individually.
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In what ways did you relate to Lorelai? And how does that work in a script where you're slowly learning more about the character and you're learning about yourself? What was the through line for you?
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I feel the same way. My parents recently have been like, Alex, shut the fuck up. You literally grew up in Pennsylvania. You went to school in Boston. You lived in New York. Yeah. Why are you cold? It's like 60 something degrees. I'm like, I need a I need like a parka.
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No, Sarah needed more wins than Lorelai. Yes. Right. Different.
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Okay, what was it like the first time that you met Alexis, a.k.a. Rory Gilmore?
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And Stella walks in here and her confidence, she literally just said to me right before she's like, I responded to the publicist. I told her we're doing it. I'm like, you are such a mini of your mom. That is like she's her energy was amazing. I'm so grateful to her. I'm so happy we're here. OK, are you a strict parent or like what's the vibe? Are they sneaking out? Are they not sneaking out?
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What was your first impression of Shonda Rhimes?
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Yeah. I can imagine the electricity in the room when you're with someone like that, that is that smart and talented. I feel like when I'm around smart women, it's inspiring and you want to work harder and it's motivating. What do you think her best quality as a boss was and is?
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I don't have kids but it's not lost on me that like I'm at that point where I'm thinking about like what is that next step for me and I've literally been at dinners Ellen like in Hollywood and people have even said to me like oh just wait a few more years because you know what happens when you have kids like it's gonna all change for you as my husband's fucking sitting right next to me and I'm like
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How's it going? They are not sneaking out.
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And for him too? Or just – no, just me. Just me. I'm going to become the mom and the damaged goods and I'm not as good and I'm not as – and it's just – you feel the tone in the way that people speak. And so to have someone that is –
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advocating for you I bet there's going to be so many women that listen to this being like oh I fucking wish my boss would do that shit and that should be a prerequisite standard for the way that women are treated not even in this industry but in every single field whatever you're doing for your job like that's how we keep this fucking world moving is we are making the next generation.
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Thank you for sharing that because, like, I needed to hear that. So I can imagine there's a lot of people listening being like, yes, Ellen, thank you. Like, can I ask, did you – for your first, did you have any – Not hesitations, but how did you feel about your career and having your first child? And were you this confident at that point?
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You grew up outside of Boston, right? I did. Do you still have any of that Boston accent? Can you bring it back? Wait, are you kidding me? You can't hear it? No. Have you ever spent any time in Boston? Yes, I went to college there. My mom's from Boston.
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It's inspiring you hearing talking about it because I know there's mothers that listen to this. There's people that don't want kids. There's people that do want kids. But just the way that you can tell you are so... filled up by the decision you made. And obviously you didn't stop at one. So clearly you liked it. Hi, Stella, listening over there. No, it's beautiful. It's really beautiful.
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And I appreciate you sharing that because I think a lot of what I've talked about on my show is there's so much of what we decide to
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from our childhood and so much of our childhood impacts us but it doesn't define us but you have to decide where you want to start carving your own path and it doesn't mean that you're not going to take the things that happened to you from childhood and then whether you change things that you didn't like or you want to bring things forward that you liked but like a lot of creating your own family
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is because of what you went through. And it's beautiful to hear you talk about how like you and your husband came to this decision and it wasn't something that you were at the forefront of your brain. I think as career driven women, it's, It can be hard to feel like, well, I'm going to put a pause on. And then hearing from you, you're like, I didn't really need to pause. Look at you.
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That moment where he wrote... On your palm. I mean, the writing. Yeah. I'm like, you just killed me. Like, you just stabbed me in the heart. How dare you? Yeah. Holy shit. Okay, I agree. Which scene was the most emotional to film?
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Yeah, it felt like a piece was going to always be missing. And I felt like when obviously anyone from the core left, it felt wrong. But that because she was your person and you were her person on the show, it was like I think even back to the way that you guys the writing of that, like you're my person.
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And I feel like that has transcended the show in a way because in my life, I have my person and her name is Lauren and she's my best friend. But it's more than a best friend.
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And I think that word has kind of seeped into people's lives where you really start to think like there's that iconic scene at the bar when she's, you know, pregnant and she's going through it and she's going to like not choose to keep the baby. And it's such this beautiful moment of this like feeling
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feminine energy between these two human beings of just this bond that is this unsaid thing like we will trudge through the shit for each other and it was very inspiring to me at a young age and now I always use that term and it mostly comes up when I'm going through the really hard shit in life and I always go to my person when I need her so thank you for bringing that to life um
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Also, for me, emotional when Izzy and Denny Duquette and everyone's walking down the stairs. Oh, yes, of course, of course.
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Okay. Maybe it will come out today. Who is the most famous person in your phone?
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When I saw that interview between you guys and you were like, did you know what a Pick Me Girl is? And she's like.
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girl I was dying you're like my daughter told me that we basically and I was the ultimate pick me girl Stella's like mom you're such a pick me I'm like oh my god that line though I agree I also will never forget the stairwell moment and I have to tell you the story because it's so embarrassing when you looked at Derek and you say you don't get to call me a whore yeah
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yeah girl and you say i you basically say like i will not apologize for the way that i repair my choose to repair what you broke i'm not a whore i use that on an ex-boyfriend you do it's so embarrassing ellen I'm in the wake of a breakup. He cheated. I'm devastated. I move on. He finds out I move on quickly. He calls me a whore. I'm sitting there like, what can I say to this man?
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We're going to get brunch and we're going to talk it through. And I'm like, this man has never seen Grey's Anatomy. I pull your line out of my ass. I look this man dead in the eyes over a coffee. And I literally say, you don't get to call me a whore. And I said the whole fucking line. He was too stunned to speak.
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I was like, I literally like I hope he doesn't like go Google that shit because it was so brilliant. Oh, and he was like mortified. I was like, thank you, Meredith Gray. Moving on. So I've literally pretty good. Meredith has so many near death experiences. Which do you think was the most insane?
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No, insane in the, like, it really pushed, it pushed, like, for me, the fairy.
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And Christina saying, again, try again. I'm like, can you not watch this just a couple times? That was amazing, yeah. And I think the bomb moment was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Heavy. Yeah. Which co-star would you consider your closest friend?
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As we all saw, Meredith didn't make the best decisions in her relationship sometimes. Sometimes. We love our girl, but sometimes. I'm going to give you a scenario from the show and you tell me what advice you would now give Meredith. Meredith begging Derek to choose her over his wife. Girl. Bye. Love. Meredith rebounding with George when she knew he liked her for years. I mean, can I tell you?
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The way you just said that, even like just like not even, you're not even sure, you're like maybe DiCaprio?
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That's so interesting. Thank you for the little tea there. Thank you. Okay. Meredith attempting to be friends with benefits with an ex like Derek.
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Kind of fair. Handle your business. Meredith dating a former patient. Was he hot? Who was it? Was it Nick? Was his name Nick?
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You know. Daddy gang. He's hot. We know. Okay, and last one. Meredith building her future home out of candles to show Derek her commitment, even though he had a girlfriend. Rose. Wait, I built it? No, he did the candle house. No, you did. I did? You stupid, stupid house. I shouldn't have done this. I'm so embarrassed. Did I? And he comes in, remember? I'm so embarrassed. Yes.
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No, I don't even remember. Meredith built the house in candles. I thought he built the house in candles. No, you're like, I'm so embarrassing. This is so stupid. I shouldn't have done this. And then he's like, Meredith. And you're like, this is our living room. This is where we're going to have the kids. This is where. And he's like, I have to leave. I have to go tell Rose. Really?
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Okay. It's obviously such a big cast. Can you talk to me about like how do you handle because at the end of the day, this is your job. How did you handle when maybe you didn't vibe with certain people on set or you didn't get along with people like anyone does in a work environment? Like how did you personally navigate those moments? Maybe not always the best.
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I'm hearing you say the name George just literally brought me back to like season one, two, three, four. OK, we're going to get there. Your fans are obviously so diehard. And by fans, I mean me literally sitting in front of you right now. What is the craziest fan interaction you've ever had?
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Aren't we all? I do want to talk a little bit more about that of you being the leading role, right? And the pressures that come with that. And can we talk about money? Yeah. Let's talk about money. Let's do it. Your $20 million salary was publicly shared to the world. How did you feel when that came out?
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No, yeah. I feel very in simpatico with you on this. And I'm enjoying asking you this because I'm also like – I think probably also like enjoying any wisdom I can get because I think you deserve that. And do you. Thank you. But you don't prepare for, you're right, that feeling where you're so like, wow, holy shit. There's not a lot of women who have gotten to this point.
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And in your head, you're celebrating like, I remember in my moment, it was less about in moments myself, more about like, I don't think I'm like ever going to get comfortable with the number being out there. Like my first contract was, I remember when the number got leaked and I was like, whoa, I'm so proud though, that people know that it's there because it stands for so much.
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I thought in my mind, but then you get this wave of negativity and, that I say it all the time and it is a definite statement that men just do not experience this level of scrutiny when it comes to money.
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You have Jeff Bezos and Elon and Trump and all of these men get to just fucking shit money in front of our faces and everyone thinks it's hot and powerful and then the minute we get any of it, not even in the ballpark, we're just lightly getting a part of the conversation, It's like, oh, she doesn't deserve it. Either she's a bitch. She found a way to maneuver it because she's not worth that.
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Can you talk to me about... What doubts you personally had to push through in the moments where you needed to essentially go in and advocate for yourself of what you're worth to get to that point in your career where you're like, I deserve this number or whatever it was when you're sitting in those rooms with these people who are probably like, I don't know if you do.
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Can you talk to me about that? Well, yeah, sure.
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I also think something that you said in that that's really great advice for someone when they are going to advocate for themselves and you are going to someone like Shonda, who's again also in a position of power. In your gut, you were doing it out of a respect. It wasn't because you're back against the wall. You're like –
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if she finds out she'll be mad it wasn't out of fear base and i think a lot of times when you're going to make a business decision for yourself or a relationship decision whatever it is checking in with yourself to be like why am i actually doing this you went to shonda because she had whether it was stuck her neck out for you or you and you respected her and you had a great working relationship with her like that was between you and shonda where you genuinely wanted to do it you didn't have to do it but it meant something to you in her relationship
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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Ellen Pompeo, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you so much for having me. I was just saying this to someone before you got here. I have interviewed so many people my career now. Hands down, I have never gotten starstruck. I'm a little starstruck right now. I am a huge fan. Huge.
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Such a good fucking point about I. I remember the first contract, essentially, I was in. I was so green. I was so new. I didn't know anything about bonus structure and download structure and all of that. And it was used against me. I was being lied to about what I should be getting to for a bonus. And so it was this push and pull of begging for numbers, begging for numbers.
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And I remember when I got into my next contract, that was something I had... Personally made sure my lawyers put in the contract that every single data point that impacts this show and how much money it's making, I get to see because now I agree with you. It's like anyone out there can be out there saying we don't. We don't deserve it or whatever. I'm looking at the numbers.
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These people aren't just fucking giving out fresh cash and free cash for jack shit. It's like these – no one is giving out money these days easily. So it's like you're right. I think especially if women, even if it's you're advocating for yourself to get the – buy quarterly check-ins and getting more tangible information. Information is power.
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And when people are trying to block you out of getting information, there is a reason for that. And the more that you can push to whatever field you're in, you got to try to go for it because that's how you're going to have leverage. And you talking about the...
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Male female thing which is obvious obviously you and your co-star Patrick Dempsey I know you talked about in the past of just like they kind of would use it as leverage in your negotiations like what message did that send you of someone you're on camera with and you can't get the same.
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That's, I mean, even hearing you back to the first question I asked you about this, like, When your agent said that or your lawyer, I forget which one you said, which was so profound of just being like, girl, no one is going to be that happy for you. How did you then just navigate the interpersonal dynamics on set of, yet again, knowing you deserved this, but there may be some awkwardness?
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Your daughter is here today. She is. She is in the daddy gang. You have to just like lightly tell the story of how this came to be because I am, I love her right now. I'm like, you are an OG. Thank you for getting your mom on the show right now. Tell us everything.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Obviously, Grey's Anatomy is everyone's go-to comfort show. What is yours? Well, so I think Love Island right now.
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Can you talk to me about you're married to Chris and your career obviously was taking off simultaneously. You're dealing with grace. There's these super, super, super, not only steamy moments, but I mean, like there's the big one of the biggest love stories, I guess you could say of all time. How did your husband feel about you having this? this insane romance on screen?
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Like, was he chill with it? Was it like a conversation you guys ever had? Like, I guess, how do you deal with that as an actress?
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I literally got chills when you just said that because it's so disgusting and is... Like makes me emotional thinking about it because the beautiful family you have created and the beautiful relationship you must have to weather a storm that is... And everyone else is bringing the negativity to you. You're two human beings, like you said, before Grey's.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they're like, it's either the U.S. version or the U.K. version. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, you're U.S.
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You're doing your thing and then this thing explodes and you become on this pedestal that people want you to act a certain way, date a certain way, be a certain way. And if you don't kind of fall into that exact...
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stereotype that they want you to be then you're failing and I mean I can't imagine the conversations and but if anything and correct me if I'm wrong how much stronger in the end made the two of your relationship but you should have never had to go through that like have you guys ever Have you ever had to talk to your kids about this? Because, like, will they ever read these tabloids?
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Well, thank God you were on Grey's Anatomy. OK, because Sopranos would have been dope, too. Oh, I mean, thank God for Grey's. Thank God for Grey's. Like, yeah, no, that would not have been bad. Let's talk about now. OK. The Good American Family. I think about Good American Family and I'm like sitting here and I'm like, 21 years of Grey's. Yes. 21 years. Yeah. This is your first project since that.
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How did you decide, like, I'm going to invest in a new character, in a new story? Was it even ever a question that you would or wouldn't do anything else?
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Yeah. I mean, it's like you got to be dedicated. There's so many episodes. It's like before you know it, you've like missed on six episodes because like a bunch come out every single day when it starts going out. Like, do you watch them in bulk?
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Talk to me about leaning in, obviously, and preparing for this character. It is a very dark story. As a mother yourself, where was the in? How did you find it within yourself to enter into this character and be this character and bring it to life?
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And you have to deal with that. Is this a situation where you guys have been able to talk to the real family? Nope.
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I'm just so excited for you and for the world to see you in a different role. And I think there is an anticipation that is exciting to know that – We're not going to see Meredith Gray on screen. And that is and I think that complete departure is such a fascinating take that you did. And I'm excited that you went all the way to the other side.
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It's so entertaining. I also was addicted. I interviewed Leah and Rob from that season and it was just like the biggest thing ever. I'm like Love Island. People go hard, but clearly we know because you're sitting right here. OK, growing up. my mom and I had a ritual. We would eat dinner together. We would turn on grays.
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And I'm just excited for everyone in the world to watch this and enjoy it and ingest it and see you in a different light because you're so talented. We've all fallen in love with you through one lens. And now we have to adapt and change. And it's going to be such a fun roller coaster to watch this and to enjoy it. And selfishly now getting to know you today.
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I'm so excited for you that, like you said, especially for women, like how crazy that the first contract negotiation that you did for Grey's Anatomy, you were turning 40 and you're like, oh, well, this will probably be it. I guess I'll take the money. And now look at where you're sitting. And we are talking about,
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19 seasons and then here you are and you got a new career moment that's about to just completely take off in a different direction. And here we go again. It's wild. It's really wild. Last question. What do you hope your legacy is in this industry and what it will be? That's a tough question.
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It was more than an honor to sit with you today. I got my fangirlness out. I learned so much. I felt so inspired. I felt connected. Like this was all the things in interview I could ever ask for. So thank you so much, Ellen. You are one of one. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks to Lieb by Yves Saint Laurent for sponsoring today's episode.
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We would watch until our eyes hurt and then we would force ourselves to go to bed. How does it make you feel knowing that the way that that show has just impacted so many people's lives, whether it's bringing people together, keeping people comforted when they are lonely and they're alone, whether it's inspired them to go get a job in that field. How does it make you feel?
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what you've done, every single person watching this is going to be like, oh, she's the fucking best. She's the fucking best. She has been there on my TV since I can remember. And I love her. And I think in some capacity, it's interesting to look at actors and it's like, is it for your own ego? Or if you just love what you're doing and it's fun, like, isn't that enough?
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But I love what you're saying is like this afforded me everything. What I wanted, which was, yes, my career and I loved it, but I also love my family because right. You filmed a lot in L.A., right? All of it. Yeah. So that's what allowed you to have this steady lifestyle. Yes.
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While also being able to be a mother and to be a wife and to be a friend while simultaneously having a very successful career that is very public. But comparatively, you're not flying across the world to Serbia and filming a movie.
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I love you saying that because I do think there is a feeling for women where when you don't have the money, you still think, well, is it the money or do I need to be close to a powerful man? And it's hard to separate. But once you get there, you're like,
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Ellen Pompeo: Pick Me, Choose Me, Pay Me More
oh i don't need fucking jack shit get away from me but it takes you climbing the ladder and interacting with the patriarchy and the misogyny and experiencing it all to now be sitting where you're saying like you're sitting here and just being like i'm good wait but hold up yep i'm not even mad at you have to be next to a powerful man go ahead get next to him and use him to level up
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What were your hesitations about doing the show to begin with? And where were you at your career and financially when you were trying to make this decision? Should I take Grey's Anatomy and should I not? I was broke.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
If you don't know what East Northumberland High is, if you don't know what good and broken is, if you don't know you and me together, if you don't know nobody's perfect, life's what you make it. Like Lauren and I are OG Hannah Montana. Well, it was perfect because you would play Hannah.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Really? He's like having fun and he's thinking he's like, so he's like, yeah, he's like, wow.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Keep going. I have a feeling where this is going. Just from the sheer fact that you went to a drag show. Keep going. Keep going.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I would play Lily. Yep. OK, so Lauren and I are hanging out because Matt was like, do you guys want to watch football? And we were like, not really. Not right now. We're feeling frisky. Funky. So we were having a little cock. And we came downstairs after our cocktail and we just figured we'd podcast and hang out with you, Daddy Gang.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Not only are you an ally, you are literally trying to turn gay men straight. You're like, are we in love? He's like, babe, this is my boyfriend over here. You're like, Jonathan.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I have no words. I'm trying to like process, like again, you guys, this basically the last episode after she found out that that man was gay, she turned to the guy at the bar and she was like, he's so cute. We're like,
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
babe like he's drinking a pink martini like he's gay like Lauren is like not that again like I get straight men can but it's like it was so obvious this man was gay and Lauren was like his muscles and I'm like babe Lauren you're going OK, Lauren. Yeah. OK, but at least once you realized he was gay, like what did you do?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
You were just like I thought I was going to get a little finger tonight.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I feel like we've been seeing each other so much recently, which I'm very happy about.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Okay. So the story is not ending and you fell in love with another fucking gay man. Okay.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
no i'm like really sure this guy was okay no no i believe that so he had like swag yeah he is swag swag he was like with it also yeah okay so those are like name brands that are like not name brandy like you kind of have to know no i only know them because of you yeah okay and so i sit down next to are you in the aisle or the i'm the window he's the aisle oh so you have to like climb over his big dick to go to the bathroom
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
wait wait wait okay so you're gonna start putting yourself together a little because again like we've said and does everyone else agree and comment down below if this is on fucking tiktok or wherever the fuck this is on instagram Let's all debate for two seconds. What is one of the hottest, most like meet cute places that you could meet someone? A plane. A plane.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
It's like the fate of you ending up sitting next to someone that you end up vibing with. And the fact that they're single, like usually you just get like a fucking frumper that's sitting next to you and is like coughing and sneezing. I got a 10. Okay. But where else would be hot to meet someone?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I feel like the plane is like... The plane's like it. Or like a coffee shop. Too basic.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
No, it's actually a good point. Like there is so much to be said for when your friend is in a relationship and you can do like couple things unless you fucking hate the person that your friend's in a relationship with. But like it's nice when you can do a couple things. It's also lovely that I will just text Lauren being like. hey, do you want to like come to the Super Bowl with me?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
But you know, if you fall in love with that and you rip your shirt off and he's like, look at these titties. You're like, that's not what I leave with Alex.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I'd rather get an infection than sometimes ask, especially.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And she's like, sure. I have no plans. But we are. Yeah, we've been seeing each other a lot lately, which I feel very grateful for. But the last time I saw you, we've kind of been doing we're back to the thing you guys were. I'm like, save it for the fucking podcast, because we had kind of gone through a little. We won't podcasting as much together.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
so and he lives in chicago i don't know well or he's coming from i don't know see now would you ever have thought to yourself well i guess no because that's also reading the room because i was gonna say would you ever have thought it would have been appropriate if you just wrote your number on a little piece of paper slipped it no then you'd be like that woman literally literally took advantage of me touching you while i was sleeping
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
But OK, so it was kind of just one of those where you're like looking at this gorgeous man and you can't do anything.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
OK, but we have talked about it like a plane is really tough, but it does have opportunity. So I feel like what we know for next time that you're on a plane is number one, you're going to look cute. So you feel your best. Because let's say, you know, you saw this man and he looks like a 10 that you're sitting next to and his little fear of God fucking shirt. But you're feeling like a gremlin.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
you're feeling not your best you're feeling like wow I haven't washed my hair in 10 days I was just with my family hiking it up the mountain I got pubes on every fucking crevice of my body like you're not gonna feel like pop the pussy even to lunge over his body but had you been like a little seal you're fucking shaved up you got your like perfume on you got your lip liner on maybe you would back down
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And like he didn't want to see you on a podcast.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
maybe you will back that thing up right all over him just to get to the bathroom and maybe he would have woken up and instead of seeing me like sir he would have been like god damn yeah he probably like opened his eyes and was like oh what is that and you're like oh you're like
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Now you're back. I'm back. And you're better than ever. And can you give us an update on your dating life? Because the last we heard from you was you and I. If you guys didn't listen to me in Lauren's last episode, it was how to start there and then come back and meet us here. Because we basically were talking about how I was being the ultimate wing woman. Really, that's what it was called.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
lauren i know okay so but what i think we also know is like you're getting really good luck with like really good looking men on planes recently yes yeah also to be fair because like you're usually flying to pretty like metropolitan places so i feel like that's also the type of man that you want to be with like we've talked about like a go-getter i want like a jet setter yeah you want someone that's like in the know yeah so i feel like these are huge opportunities for you to meet men yeah
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So I'm going to get my act together and I'll report back. I'm really proud of you though. I think that you are, you have the right mindset. We now just need to like, wait, what happened at your high school reunion?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I love how you are saying that you know your arch nemesis loves Snapchat. Again, for context... We are talking freshman and sophomore year. Like we're talking high school when this girl used Snapchat. That would be like saying you and I love Snapchat. That's like saying I love MySpace. OK, you're literally living in the olden age of something that you knew in high school.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
This woman could have gone through 10 different lives.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I'm actually really proud of you. And I feel like half of this is like the things that I've taught you because you're so not a stalker.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Like if she could have slept over with your friends, you know, she'd be up in there. If you invited her, she'd be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Just for context, her mom has a Southern accent.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
it's so good lauren he's so in love with you no no you okay so first of all this is like the one thing that you did tell me on break because we were like save it for the podcast save it the podcast and then when you told me i think i texted you and matt texted me and i said he watched my mom's instagram story okay he's trying to fuck tonight not only is he trying to fuck tonight
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
But it's about Lauren almost falling in love with a man on a plane. First class flying high. We thought they were going to bang the bathroom. Turns out he was gay. So that was the last I left off with you.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
He literally thinks you're soulmates and is obsessed with you. I'm sorry. And I'm sorry if he sees this, but you can't fucking tell me. We are 30 years old and your high school ex-boyfriend who you do not speak to.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Can you imagine everybody close your eyes right now. Can you imagine you have not talked to your high school boyfriend in fucking 10 years and you're going to your high school reunion and your fucking mother alerts you that this motherfucking creeper is viewing her story. First of all, that is fucking insane. Second of all, I'm like,
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Second of all, all that's telling me is he's trying to see if you are in town and you're going to the high school fucking reunion because what the fuck else is he doing creeping around the corner in December?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
and also at that point also it's not like you're obsessed because obviously he's obsessed but like i'm like trying to clear your name before you like fuck yourself here but i do want to say it was just like a bit that we were all it was just like a bit that we were all like running in our heads like what is gonna happen it's so fun because what the fuck else are you waiting for like oh hi patricia like how's your like insurance job like no you want to see your first like i just want to you want to see your fucking high school love yeah okay come on
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Keep in mind, Lauren thinks she's vibing with this door woman and Lauren thinks this woman, this daddy gang, this woman could be like so unaware and is like, what is wrong with this girl? She's a staring problem. But okay. Yeah. She's daddy gang. She's an ally.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Is that a saying? Nope. I love it. A faded run in. I thought you like said faded. Like I'm faded on this fucking juice girl.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I'm picturing you like seconds away from grabbing the phone being like, it's me, baby. You're like holding yourself back all your fucking free will. It's like, don't grab the phone. Don't grab the phone.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So you're exposing yourself right now on Call Her Daddy to millions of people that you are in fact the girl that had Karen from the bar call him and try to get him and lure him to the bar so you could see him.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Wait, wait, wait. Let's get serious. Let's get serious. Can't do fucking anything.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Just a little like... Fair, because at least he's not gay and we know that.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
But also, we do not want him. No, I don't. We do not want him.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Then what are we doing? I just wanted to stir the pot a little bit. No, you want him to want you so that you can pull back and then you can be like, ew, I don't want you anymore. That's so high school. But you want him to come to you so then you can fucking bounce. I don't know what I want. Who has she become? It is crazy.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I don't know if anyone feels this, babe, but no matter how far away you get from your hometown, it's the saying of like, you can take a bitch out of Philly, but you can't take the Philly out of a bitch or whatever the fuck the saying is. Okay. Oh, also people got so mad at me when I was like, I will always be Philly. They're like, you're from the fucking suburbs, cunt.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I was like, okay, first of all, fuck off. It's not the same thing, but you know what I'm saying? We went to Philly every fucking day. Second of all, it's weird how no matter where you go in life,
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
stirs up those emotions of when you're like an adolescent because remember did I tell you that I think I was regressing no did I tell you that my ex-boyfriend randomly texted me a picture of the look at me now song by Chris Brown out of the blue and just texted that to me in November oh and just like a picture of like look at me now and I couldn't tell if he was saying like look at you or look at him exactly I couldn't tell like or
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
like i don't know what he's up to but like look at you kind of makes sense i was thinking that but it says look at me like i couldn't tell so i just didn't answer because i was like i'm not sure you're also married yeah yeah it was just like a little i'm not married you know you're looking i'm single you're looking to get fingered no okay so you had like you wait did you have any i'm blowing up your spot i forgot you told me what you had a makeout though yeah
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
rewind and zoom in on her face when she just said yeah oh who are you I'm obsessed you had a make out I had a make out but not with my high school boyfriend no with a different man okay now that we are in our era of you are single we do not want you to end up with a gay man although we are allies we want to keep our gays and our girls and then we want to keep the dicks that we want to suck and fuck over here for you to marry um
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I have a little game on my phone that I if anyone is single or even if you're fucking married or in a relationship, I don't give a shit. Just play with us because this is going to be fun. So I have a game for Lauren. And basically, I'm going to ask you a question. And I want to know if you would swipe right or left. I don't know. Right or left. I don't know. Is right good? Left bad? I don't know.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So just say yes or no. Yes or no. Yes or no. OK, ready? We're going to start easy. OK, hopefully. He has multiple mirror selfies on his profile.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Wait, five dates and an eight date? Jesus fucking Christ.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Okay, like what context would you be okay? Can you imagine Matt taking a mirror selfie?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Okay, let's try to think of what would be okay. I feel like a man mirror selfie.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Yes, I was thinking the same thing, although a really random image came to my mind. He's...
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
outside at a cabin and there's a there's a mirror like outdoor and he's like like with his friends like drinking beer like well that may be too frappro no it wait okay i know no i take all that back i was thinking because imagine it has to feel like he was in a moment yeah spur the moment quick like i'm at a sporting stadium yeah but not in the bathroom not it has to be like
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
No, I think you're right. The energy would be like if... They're in a costume. Is that also frat boy energy? It has, again, if he's like... Context around it. Context is really important. If there's multiple, absolutely not. One mirror selfie and the context has to make sense. We're struggling to find the context of the mirror selfie that would be acceptable. But if you find it... Send it in.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Everyone comment down below. When is it acceptable for a man to take a mirror selfie? Because I'm struggling. To know when that's the right time. I'm struggling. Okay. Um... His first photo is shirtless. Absolutely no. It's unacceptable. One shirtless photo? The only context that a shirtless photo would be.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And if we can see crevices that far away from the camera, win, obviously, to know that you have a nice body. But I agree, it should not be like... Your body's not the focus.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
scout out a date like i need to like put aside like an hour at night to like do some good swiping and like make some movement but do you feel like you kind of like burnt yourself out a little bit like you were kind of down for anything and now you're getting a little bit more subjective or no you were going hard you hit the pavement like lauren like my friends were like why do you keep going on sunday dates like i'd wake up hungover and be like oh fuck i have a date today can i say this and you can correct me if i'm wrong but i feel like you went through a period where
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
yes no he has his shirt almost like around his shoulders his shoulders or his neck and he's so hot he's sweaty yeah yeah yeah and he's doing one of those like when men do this what does this think do you know what when they do this to the they're like pointing to the person next to them do you know what i'm talking about boys do that shut the fuck up but no i think i think it's around their neck yeah okay
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
All of his... No. All of his prompts are knock-knock jokes. No.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Do you want to... Is that you being like... Ask me about my problems. What's going on with your promise, Lauren?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I fucking remember when you were telling me about this, but then you started lingering too long on the fucking top sheet conversation.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Like you now, you almost have prompts to go with once they start the conversation.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
You can just kind of black out and then eventually you want to transition the conversation.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And when Lauren showed me one of her dating app conversations, I was like, babe, I'm scrolling and we're still on the fucking top sheet, which is where you really have to be careful. Like, I think something that my advice for dating apps that I gave to you was, and I used to do this a lot, was I can be sarcastic. Like I think that was one of my like flirt. Like banter. Yeah, banter.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And like I used to do that all the time. The problem is if you don't, get out of that zone somewhat in the beginning days of speaking before, before the actual date, before the actual date, I find it very hard to transition your relationship out of the banter stage to being like sweet and romantic and like not shitting on each other.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Yeah. Because I remember, um, it was the Canadian, um,
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
and it was this Canadian hockey player that I used to hook up with, and we were both Leos, which was just a fucking disaster in general, but I remember every single fucking time I was with him, we were constantly trying to one-up each other, and we were constantly just bantering, and if you were at a dinner with us, like, we would go to a lot of group things, and people were like, you two are so fucking insane together, it's hilarious to watch, but I was also like, I also want you to, like, cuddle me, and, like... And then you...
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
end the date and you're like wait I know nothing about you it's almost like a competition yeah if you can keep the banter going and it gets exhausting and I find that you almost regret that you never were just like normal sweet conversations and then you can so be careful daddy gang that you don't get stuck in the banter phase because as fun as it is to find something that you're like okay this person can fucking banter yeah eventually you're gonna run out of like leg room to be like
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Daddy gang, welcome back to another episode of Call Her Daddy. I am back with the one, with the only, McLairby McLarson. I feel like that's like your, what would be your DJ name, Lauren?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
It's now would be weird for us to have a romantic, loving moment because we're so joking with each other. OK, good to know. OK, next, your ex is in one of his pictures. I'm in a little bit of a destructive situation.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
you had been saying to me, like right when you got out of your relationship, you were like, weekends can be weird because I'm used to like laying in bed on a Sunday. Yeah. Okay. So maybe you just like wanted like companions to talk to someone. Maybe you want a companionship. And most of your friends in Chicago are in relationships.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
How long do you have to wait? To fuck his friend? Yeah. I think it has to be like a year and a half.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
that's murky territory that's murder no i feel like because what if it's like you know love stories like if you go to fuck a guy that your ex is friends with again if it's his best fucking friend you're that's just that's mean because it's also kind of weird in hindsight like if his best friend would fuck you then i don't like what that says about him and his morals but if it was a guy in his friend group that he was always just kind of around but you guys never hung out but like then you
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Or is it like you move to a new city and you see a friend that was his friend and your city that's safe. Or you also have to check with yourself, depending on the way that you broke up with your exes. Like, are you also leaning into it for the familiarity that's just, like, comforting to you? Or do you, like, actually like this guy to like this guy? Okay, so there's a lot of dynamics at play here.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Interesting. Daddy gang, write into us if this has happened to you. He's 6'11".
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Can we talk about that for a second? Lauren, 6'11". Can you, like, give me an... If you were doing 69, you're...
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
From what I understand, a lot of like the crew boys at BU were really tall. And I just remember, I've never hooked up with someone that tall, but I remember my friends always saying, oh my God, sex is so hard. Because also if you're riding on top and you're looking at him, you go to kiss him. It's like your head would fall down and you just hit like nipple. Like you can't even reach up to him.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
6'3". Although it says he's shorter on the line and it really upsets him. Business can wait for two seconds. What is the average height of an NBA player? Like what's the average?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
So I think maybe there's a part of you that was like looking just to speak. And maybe that's why your dates were going on for five hours. To have some human contact. Because you were just like trying. You're a social person. So maybe it was also you just like down to chat.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
But there are men that are seven foot in the NBA.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Thank you. Love you. But listen, I'm telling you. You're going to see us next week courtside. Lauren's like, I don't want him throwing me around. But do you understand what I'm saying? Logistic. I love how we're saying it's too tall, but listen to me. Think about it. You are riding a man. Okay. I love what we're doing. Like science.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
You're riding this man. OK, here. You go to kiss him and his head is here. But think about that. You can't reach him. So you can't make out when you're riding him. You. That's a big dog. Well, I guess it depends the intimacy level if you're just trying to fuck. But do you understand what I'm saying? You can't. Sixty nine.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
you're so far away when you're sucking his dick that you can't really like make eye contact. He's so, he's like a mile away. But like, I think there's definitely positives to date. Does anyone, is anyone in a relationship with a man that's seven foot? Let us know. And I don't want to discriminate.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I'm just saying for you, I can tell with you, I think you want big, but I don't know if you want that big, but if it's love. Okay. Okay. Next question. What the fuck was my question? Oh, 6'11". It's a good question. It's a good question. Oh, he's doing a baby voice in his voice prompt.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
What does a man doing a baby voice even sound like? I don't know. But I know that men do it. And I actually think...
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
ladies i know it's probably like feels counterintuitive but i actually genuinely believe i remember when i was looking at your hinge and i was like do not click on that yeah don't click on their voice prompts because if they have one they're probably trying to do something funny and they don't understand like it's gonna give you the ick and maybe he is like a good guy but he's like maybe he's a stand-up comedian but like save it for the stage he's vegan
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Now you're getting a little bit more like. Now I'm like a little tired.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Yeah. Like, come on. Like, I want to go have steak. Yeah, exactly. Sushi. OK. Oh, his frat Greek letters are in his bio and he's 30 years old in the bio.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I agree. He's hot, but his outfits are horrible.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
i think it's okay like there's room to grow yeah but i also would have to like meet him in person because maybe he's like a some men are resistant to change i couldn't have a guy that like actually like like looks like to the point where i'm like we're going on a date night and i'm just like never getting turned on yeah okay fair i think that's it yeah i feel like we did it yeah okay so i think this is like a fun game you guys that lauren and i are just trying to figure out like who is lauren going to end up with and we're all we're in no rush
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
We're in no rush. And I feel like we're all very invested in this journey of yours. And I think people are really enjoying it. Like the last couple episodes that we've done, I feel like people are really enjoying the conversation around you being single, getting out of a relationship at 30, like you shared with us. And like, you're so young and you have so much opportunity.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
dipping in and doing dates when you're in the mood and then you're kind of going on little hiatus and i think that is a great um that's a great strategy like don't force yourself like don't feel bad if you haven't gone on dates in a couple months daddy gang like maybe you're just not ready and you're probably like your body is probably telling you like maybe you need to focus on yourself a little bit more maybe you want to focus on work right now like don't get mad at yourself if you go in flux of like going on a bunch of dates and then stopping i think that's normal right
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Do you agree that Lauren should not be dating if she doesn't want a relationship? Or do you think it's completely fine that Lauren is going on dates, but she doesn't want a relationship? We will leave you with that, with that big, big, big question mark. And we are going to go have wine and watch football with Matt. So God bless.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And thank you guys so much for listening to another lovely episode of Call Her Daddy. And you know the drill. I will see you fuckers next Wednesday. Goodbye.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Okay. I'm glad that you're not going for like the 25 year old. No, no, no, no, no baby boys. Okay. So you're going for the older daddies and, but now you're done with the 40 year olds.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Wait, how did I not know that? You were Laryn McCott stuff?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
You're like, so how many kids do you have? They're like, I have two families. Oh, height. Are you in height? Yeah.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
are we allowed to say that i don't know i don't think i can i don't think no i think we can i think we can you you i like to feel small i like to literally be so tiny they can't find me like i like to look up wait what is your what is your height range i don't have it restricted oh you don't but when you see it's like a little five seven or you're like
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
sorry I know I'm sorry but to each their own like some people I have some inches on me like no you're literally five six that's tall I think the average height of a woman is five five five five we're the exact same height and the exact same shoe size yeah Lauren we're five five yeah Lauren and I are both five five and we have seven and a half shoe size and we can fit into an eight and we have the same everything basically we do the same makeup we have the same every time it works out really well for me yeah
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
that takes that one that's absolutely offensive and that actually takes some balls to have that as your fucking name but it's also kind of like fun if you're meeting guys and you're just like anyways Lauren is here today what the fuck um Lauren is here and we are having a little girls night Matt is upstairs watching football with his friends and Lauren and I were acting like little freaks and so Matt was like why don't you he basically was like why don't you girls go play like why don't
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
feeling if any girl lives in fucking Chicago and finds that man they're scooping him from you they're like I'm not giving a Columbia hot tall grad to you Lauren but good to know oh wow that fucking sucks I know like there's he probably is like so confused because he probably thought you guys were like kind of vibing and thought you were about to like literally like suck the pee pee and instead you like unmatch him that probably is fucking him up and he's probably talking to his friends like I really think I'm like I need to take a break from
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
dating right now because I clearly am like have lost the plot and I like can't read a room because I thought I was about to fuck this girl and meanwhile she goes okay so you accidentally unmatch okay but have you had any fun encounters at all with a man like recently okay so yeah I've been like really open to meeting people in the wild so like I just feel like I'm walking around with like my eyes and heart open and if you guys again didn't listen to our last episode Lauren and I like said like there's something coming about
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
us no I could feel it I'm gonna meet someone in the wild we are is the word ravenous yeah we are ravenous for you to find a man to the point where like every turn we are literally you are objectifying men around every corner that you walk any man that like is somewhat attractive I'm like could he be the one Matt was little oh my god I forgot to tell you this oh my god okay so so oh my god so Matt walks into the office
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
He walks into my office to introduce me to some guy he was just like finishing a meeting with. And he walks in and it was a guy from like the film department that was coming to have a meeting with Matt at our offices. And he's like, hey, Alex, this is blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, hi.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
And like Matt always gives context like, oh, he works at Netflix or like, oh, this is a guy from Paramount or oh, this is a director or whatever. He's giving kind of like no context. And he's kind of looking at me like Matt's like.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I didn't get into enough detail. But I do think it could be like, okay, this is going to be really controversial. And I actually would love to know from people in the comments, when Lauren is on this dating journey, do we think a dad would be like a good fuck? Or is he going to be lazy?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
OK, see, this is the kind of shit learn that I needed to know, because for our single daddy gang, like I don't be scared of dads. But this is also what I was going to say. I have a feeling that if you are not looking completely for a relationship and you're kind of looking just to like meet people and have good sex.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I have a feeling a dad could be the perfect person because he may not be looking for anything serious. A recently divorced dad. Exactly.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
That's literally somehow you can like set your setting. Recently divorced dads. Please hit me up. That's in your bio. Okay. Anyway, sorry. How did we get off track? Oh, me meeting people in the wild.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Can I just say I love this for you? And I feel like the best, most fun moments can sometimes come from when you're doing shit alone. Obviously be safe. But like, I feel like no one takes themselves on dates anymore. And I just want to put that energy out there, Daddy Gang. If you were like, what should I do this weekend? Because all my friends are gone or my boyfriend's gone or you're single.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
Well, no, because this is what I said to Lauren. I said, I saw this trend on TikTok. And it's like, oh, when I tell people I'm a Miley Cyrus fan and they think I'm going to play the song Flowers. And then all of a sudden the girl is like, and then you hear me fucking blasting East Northumberland High.
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
I wonder, would you ever take an edible before a massage? All the time. Why am I going in just raw dog?
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Dating App Dealbreakers (ft. Lauren)
You're not thinking of it as a complete prospect, but potentially by more conversation, you may be like, huh. I'm just in the mood to chat and not really necessarily in the mood to go home.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Hollywood four does not work on the cat bitches.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
You and your sisters are all paid the same amount on the Kardashians. True. Oh, are you guys allowed to like cut any footage that you don't like?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Okay, lie or not, Rob lives in your house.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Okay, lie or not, you have a secret sex tape with your ex-husband.
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In 2016, you told Andy Cohen you had it locked in a safe. Oh, maybe I do.
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No, I love it. Okay. Lie or not. Kris Jenner plants stories in the press to distract from bad news of the family. No lie. But I love that people think that. I love that for her, even if she did that. I would do that too if I had that power. I'm like, plant, plant, plant, boom. But people would love what's actually in the media over this planted thing. True.
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When someone is in the middle of family drama, can you take us to what happens? Are you guys all on the phone? Are you texting? Are you meeting at someone's house? How is it going down?
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Do you feel like it's calming down a little bit? Like people are a little less crazy towards you guys?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
drama i love that for you yeah i love that for me too i deserve this for right now true i do um okay lie or not your therapist exposed your personal details to the tabloids true i know rude chloe don't be fucking rude no beyond rude no beyond like not nice that's like My heart breaks for you in that moment because that is like therapy is such a beautiful thing.
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I am in therapy and I can't imagine then like the lack of trust that comes from someone that is being paid and has all the like laws around it that they're not allowed to spread that shit. Yeah. Were you ever able to confront the person and get closure?
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Can you think of a recent time that someone forced you out of the house and you immediately regretted it?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I was going to say because I feel like especially when you go through things that you have publicly shared on the show and that has come out in media with like romantic relationships or even just like with your family in your life like the natural thing that people would say is like you should get into therapy and you should talk about how this has affected your ability to trust or to love or whatever and then for you to have to be like I tried that and they violated.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Right. It's so backwards and I'm so sorry that you've had
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
deal with that because it's no one should ever have to deal with that and then it's like how do you even begin to look for help when you feel like the help that is there is going to exploit you you don't feel safe and the whole point is feeling safe is it true that now your new therapist is the same as kim's true oh my god how is that going that you are sharing therapists with your sister i i think it's great i don't know i think it's great but also kim and i
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I think that's amazing. I was also thinking like half the time you could be like, oh, I'm sure Kim caught you up on this, but this recently just happened. And then boom, you're in it.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Okay. Obviously, everything that you do is basically discussed on the internet. Do you read your comments? Sometimes.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I'm so happy to finally meet you. You are the first Kardashian to come on Call Her Daddy. So this is a big moment.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I think that's also interesting because – Looking at public figures, so much of what we are seeing are things that people are also experiencing in their everyday life. Like there's nothing more relatable than getting cheated on. Sadly, I've been cheated on. Everyone in this room has been cheated on. And it's so fucking sad.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
But you having to play it out on the world stage, people get to have the opinions where like so many women obviously listening and watching are going to be like, oh, I went back after he cheated on me. But that is not on the tabloid. So you having to read things, I do love that you're saying like it literally depends on the day. Some days I'm feeling good. Yeah.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
What do you think is the biggest misconception about your family?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
But- No, let me just validate you. It's so real. Like I was saying that to my friend the other day. I was like- I'm really losing my patience for just this like fake chatter. Like I either want to be with my fucking family where I can just say it as it is and no one's going to get offended and we're all just talking real or I'm at work because I love doing this. Is she calling? No.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I think what you guys have built is so fucking incredible. I just want to first say that. And I agree with you that... I feel like for a while that was definitely the sentiment where people were like genuinely so frustrated that your family had so much traction and there was like this absolute want for none of you to succeed. Yeah. And you all surpassed that.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
And like you said, you've all built your own individual businesses. Like it isn't saying that every single one of you has a thriving individual business while also the collective business. Yeah. And I think that you're right with regard to like the way that people speak about men versus women.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I also do think that maybe the tides are going to shift because you now look at a traditional influencer, right? And I think we're watching a lot of influencers rise and fall within two years or one year or three years or four years because it's like – They take too many brand deals and then they become less relevant and then they're kind of done. Or inauthentic. Yes.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
And it's not authentic and it's not this or it's that. But I can imagine. Yeah, it's it's frustrating to know if it was X amount of men in a family of brothers. God damn, they're so fucking smart. One of them should be the president of the United States.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
It's really cool to see how you guys have continued to build in a way that as a businesswoman myself, like I look up to what you guys have done.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
No, I love it. Okay. I'm going to give you a scenario and you tell me which family member you would call first. Okay. Okay. Who would you call if you needed a last minute red carpet look? Kim. Whose closet would you love to steal from the most?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Okay. Who is the most high-maintenance person in your family?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
As she should be. Yes, rightfully so. Okay. What sister are you calling if you wanted to get back at an ex that did you wrong? Ooh.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I can't imagine how much money people would pay for that trio if you need advice. I can't imagine being able to just call those three women and be like, I need advice. This man fucked me over. What do I do? Yeah. So good. Okay. What is the pettiest thing that you've done to get back at an ex?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Chloe, the way that you just said that was like, I was like, oh my God, she's done that.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Then you're like, what are you doing later? Right. Fine. Come over. Who makes the worst decisions when it comes to guys in your family? Can I say myself?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
We're done. What is the furthest length you've ever gone to get intel on a guy?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
You know, I get it. It'll just be a phone call. I respect her. What is your favorite thing to do when you are like just chilling by yourself?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
It's so crazy too when people are like, oh, well, is that crazy? It's like, no, when you force a woman to go crazy, it's like, what did you do?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
need to think is a red flag in a man when they create the psychopath in me it's so true but it doesn't mean we can't look back with fond memories like Chloe I remember I got my my boyfriend cheated on me I decided to stay and I got his iPad and it was connected to his iCloud Chloe I'm living in New York City at the time And it was a big-ass iPad. They didn't have the small ones.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I'm walking to and from work, getting on the subway, going to work, and I have the iPad open at all times, reading his incoming texts, reading, reading, reading, eating lunch. I would literally set it up at work. It'd be my computer screen and the iPad.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
The best part is you're saying you're like, he's like, how did you find out? Chloe, Chloe. They're always like, how did you find out? You're like, it doesn't matter. Why are you doing?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
No. Oh, my God. Do you remember like that? I used to go if I knew he was at a certain club, I'd like go to the Instagram story of the club. Of course. See who's tagging at the club. Then you go to their page. No, it's that you never sleep. Girls never sleep. But that is when to any girl going through it right now, there is something so genuinely freeing.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
At first, it's painful because you literally feel like you're going through withdrawals where like I remember my friend took the iPad from me and she was like, yes, we're done. You need to. And I said no. And then I took it back and it only took him finally figuring it out and deactivating it. Like she couldn't even get it away from me. But then it ended up I started living my life again.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I would go to work and not be focused on the iPad.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
This was years ago. Like you've mentioned, you recently turned 40. How would you describe this new era of your life, like entering this new decade? Just give me all the feels.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I love everything you just said because at the very beginning, you said something that I think is very relatable, especially for women and just like timelines when you're talking about like wanting this thing for yourself and having this like very, very clear vision of exactly what you thought you were going to have. And I have so many women write into me being like,
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I am 32 I'm 35 I'm 30 I'm 38 whatever it be in that 30 or like end of the 20s era and it's this like horrible feeling you feel like upset with yourself and disappointed in yourself because you're like no I was supposed to do this and especially when you're comparing yourself because To whether it's your sisters or your friends being like, but she got married and she was doing this.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Yeah, you are. Number one, how are you doing today?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
And then you start to just feel like you failed. And there's no chance to get the time back. And I fucked this up. Like, do you have any advice for any women listening of how you did end up pushing through not – sticking to the timeline that you had envisioned essentially your whole life growing up?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Okay. This is really random. But what is something in your house that may surprise people?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I thought you were going to say like your bedside drawer has like, I thought you'd be like the vibrators in there. I was like, I didn't know where you were going.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I can tell the way you're saying it, Chloe, is like it took a lot of the shit that was painful to get to the place where you're getting to say that. And so that's why I also think I appreciate you sharing that because I think someone who
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
could really need that advice right now because they could be in a similar place as you were a few years ago or you just found out that you thought the love of your life isn't going to be that anymore. Whatever it is that's shifting for someone right now, that message, I think, is so powerful to alleviate a little bit of the stress that they feel that they're putting on themselves.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I want to talk about your romantic... life for a second because you were only 23 23 when keeping up with the kardashian started i think i was 22 22 okay 22 can you talk to me about like in hindsight looking back now like how do you feel that some of your hardest romantic relationship moments played out on the world stage for the public eye?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
One of the things, again, that I think people... I mean, you got so much commentary, obviously, on your relationship with Tristan. But I do genuinely believe that there were a lot of women that connected to it. And even if they were ashamed or embarrassed that they've done something similar, I think that storyline was also so massive.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Aside from like the intricate, intricate details of like, holy fucking shit, like that was insane. But the actual relatability of it and going back to someone and trusting them again to then have them fuck you over again. Right. Can you talk to me about how you decided, though, that relationship was worth another try? Because I think a lot of people go through that feeling.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Wait, that is an episode we have to do at one point, Chloe.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Do you think that now looking back, did the first cheating hurt or was the second one worse? Do you think that now looking back, did the first cheating hurt or was the second one worse?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I do the same thing. I take like a tiny edible because I don't want to be high out of my mind. Right. But just enough to like put me in that zone where I'm ready to sit back, relax, and enjoy the show.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I was going to say like – I think that what you said, though, is so relatable of like, but they've lived since then. And I think the closer you get to more life experience, more life experience, like even you –
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
saying that Chloe I'm going to be honest like I bet when all this came out seven years ago I was probably like judging you like oh like how did she get back with him and what is that and then now I'm sitting here and I'm thinking about having kids one day and I'm thinking about myself being in a situation where I do have a child and when you're talking about this period where you're like I literally gave birth I just gave birth and
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
And yes, I want to enjoy that. I so get that now because I'm getting closer to that point in my life where I probably in my early 20s was like, what the fuck is she doing? You know what I mean?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
No, no, it does. I want to ask you like to someone sitting and listening to this right now that is contemplating staying with someone that cheated on them? Like, do you have any advice?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I also just feel like the takeaway too is like, yes, we can sit here and try to give people advice. But like sometimes you actually need to live it. Sometimes you do need to get punched in the gut and have these horrible things happen for you to know now. Like, yes, you felt that gut feeling that maybe they would have cheated again. I had the same thing and he did. He cheated again.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
But I needed to feel it because I couldn't have anyone look at me and tell me otherwise until I was – done with it myself. And I really, really learned from it and was able to move on and have closure within myself. Because also giving credit to friends and sisters, like they can beg us, but it's so fucking different when it's your life and there's kids involved. It is.
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Hands down, you have to go through it on your own.
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We got to kind of see you get this closure with your ex-husband, Lamar, this season. How do you come to terms that love just like isn't enough sometimes?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
electro currency and you have different it's so Courtney like the more I talk it's like totally a Courtney gift I just was like looking through some of your quotes and I remember you saying to Courtney like what's your why don't you have Wi-Fi in this big giant fucking house and she's like it's not about the Wi-Fi it's about the radiation nobody cares no we all want Wi-Fi
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And I think that's, like, okay to say. Like, I feel like even you saying, like, 10 years without speaking to someone and then you're sitting across from them and you're still having a trauma response, like – That is one normal to everyone who says like, well, trauma just goes away. No, no, no. Like a lot of times it can live with you for your whole life or it can be a specific things trigger it.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
If you smell something, if you see something, whatever it is. So like you having that response, I agree. It's like now you can take your time on your time and on his time when you guys can figure out it works for you to like go down that path. But maybe it doesn't all need to be in like one sit down, like let's fix this whole thing and Like, let's move on.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
When are... Are you going to get back out there? Are you still going to take it slow? Like, do you have an idea of, like...
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No. Okay. You and your mom, Kris Jenner, obviously live next door to each other. What is the most intrusive thing that she has done since becoming your neighbor? Or are you the intrusive one?
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You're like, I love this shit. I'm in bed alone.
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And you are going to tell me if you would give him a shot. Are you ready? Yes. Okay. He is super present and involved in your life, but refuses to be on the show or let you post pictures of him.
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I was going to say, is it suspicious if a guy doesn't have social media?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
I agree. Yeah. Like that's hot. So you'd be down if he didn't have social media.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Because if he has a social media and he's not posting you.
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But actually, yeah. OK, all of your sisters are obsessed with him, but Chris hates him.
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Who do you think is the hardest sister to impress when it comes to bringing a guy around?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Chris once said, you got ghosted because you didn't give your date a blow job. What other chaotic relationship advice has she given you? Fucking love her.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Chris, we fucking love that you said this. You're like, the fact that she even said that, I'm obsessed.
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Okay. He's the best sex you've ever had, but you find out he once hooked up with one of your sisters.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
...incestual? No, I think it depends. I think it depends. Like, how about this?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Which of your sisters has the complete opposite type from you? Courtney, I think. Yeah. Okay. He loves to work out with you. Love that. But he's in the NBA. I can't anymore.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
So no more NBA, but would you do a different type of professional athlete?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
OK, let's talk about your podcast, Chloe in Wonderland. First of all, congratulations, because I love podcasting. It's hard work, but it's rewarding. Why did you want to start this?
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
You guys have a vibe that you can like talk about complete random shit.
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Like if you're having Kylie on, everyone's going to be like, why didn't you ask about the Oscars?
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I am obsessed that you're going a direction that no one would have thought.
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Last question. If you could go back and talk to yourself during season one of Keeping Up with the Kardashians, what would you say?
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Chloe, I just had such a great time with you. I did too.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
thank you so much for coming on it's so nice to meet you in person obviously like I feel like I've just watched you for so many years I've obviously watched the show I'm a huge fan but like to get to sit here with you it was truly a pleasure oh well thank you for having me on I've honestly had the best time I felt like yeah chill and really fast love love done thank you
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I feel like I just bought my parents a house and they're going to live like 10, 15 minutes away from me. No, it's the best. It is? It is. Okay, but Chloe, you are like sharing a land with your mind.
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Who is Chris's favorite child right now in this current moment? Who do you think it is?
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She's like, what? Yeah, she will. I'm going to get an email. You joke about how you like rarely leave your neighborhood these days. Not a joke.
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But I feel like you're so rock solid with her.
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You know deep in your soul where you stand.
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Khloé Kardashian: I’m Done with NBA Players
Chloe Kardashian, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
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People on the internet always say the devil works hard, but Kris Jenner works harder. Has she ever known something about your personal life before you've known it's coming out?
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But- Do you like that they know before you or-
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Okay. Serious. What does it actually like take for you to get out of the house?
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That's a great point. And I also was thinking about it too when I was thinking about that. It's great to have publicists and agents and all that. But at the end of the day, I think you guys have been so fortunate to succeed in this industry because of how many of you there are and how much you guys have each other's back.
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And it's like, I really admire the way that it's so clear that you guys ride for each other no matter what. And there's just a lot of people that don't have that because it's not blood. You have these people out there and if they find something out, they're always going to have your back in these moments because that's literally your family.
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Well, you have mentioned that your family has multiple group chats. One of them even has ex-boyfriends in it. Okay, tell me who's in these group chats.
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Oh, that's so fucking true. Kylie's like, I haven't seen any of your texts in four years, but at least pretend that you're in there. OK, one of the most iconic moments was when you yelled liar at the Kardashians premiere after your ex. Oh, I thought you meant at the table. Both.
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that was the most iconic and then when you were back at the premiere and it was playing and you screamed liar in the crowd like so fucking good you have to make light of like these like you do right dark situations so i'm gonna tell you a crazy rumor that i read and if it's fake say liar okay you facetuned your cat liar
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Love. Love. Welcome to an hour sitting down with me. Let's go, girl.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Where am I? The book obviously switches between like your mom and her perspective and then yours. How do you think you guys were similar as teenagers?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
you know hang out with people i shouldn't wasn't allowed to and getting arrested and you know you got arrested i did i've never said that no you're like wait this is why publicist is supposed to come in no one's here to save you wait that's kind of like i i was arrested once yeah it's a good mugshot i never saw it what i know you need to make t-shirts i know i was a minor so luckily i think it was like so it's like an underage yeah
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A lot of people that I know got those. I was like so terrified to get one because I like needed to go play like soccer. And if you had one, you couldn't play. It was a whole thing. Right. But like I was there. You got a mugshot. You didn't get. I didn't get a mugshot. But now in hindsight, I'm like, oh, would have been like a little edgy.
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The fact that you're telling me they didn't edit your voice, you have a good voice. They didn't edit it, I think. You call them, they're like, oh, babe, that shit was auto-tuned.
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No, she was like, this is on you, girl. Yeah. Oh, my God.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Was your mom someone that would punish you? Like, are you getting grounded? I was grounded.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Love. Okay. Um, you write a lot about like the different relationships that your mom had romantically throughout your childhood. When you were five, your parents got divorced because your mom wanted to marry Michael Jackson. How was this explained to you as a kid? Like that they were getting divorced?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
So you got to see like a very loving relationship between the two of them, even though they got divorced. Yeah.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
We when you break up with someone or they break up with you and you're staying friends with them. Have any of your past relationships been like Riley? Like we broke up. Why are like are you still trying to say so amicable and are people ever confused by like how amicable you are?
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And it's just kind of like how you were raised to think that's how you go about it, which is probably in hindsight, like a bit. I don't know. Do we think it's a better way to go about it?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
We just skirted past the big name, Michael Jackson. Okay. Let's go back for a second. So on top of like your family already being obviously so famous, how did your life get even crazier when Michael entered the picture? Because he had his own slew of like paparazzi and people following him and a media empire essentially.
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How did your mom try to protect you and your brother from the paparazzi during all this?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Like, I guess they attempted to hide our faces, but it was like impossible. What is the most like extravagant thing Michael did for you and your brother?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
It's so interesting hearing that because now I know obviously you have a daughter. Growing up with such lavish things around you, have you thought to yourself that was so normal to you? And how are you going to parent differently than how your mom parented you?
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Have you had a hard time like finding happiness in the simple things since you were around such wealth and big moments?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I think that's like a relatable concept. I think like I always talk to my friends who when you get older and you're like life is changing and and families and Thanksgiving's like even if you look at what we see in like Hallmark movies and everything like the bigger seems happier. Right. Like a big family at a table and everyone is there. And when you have a smaller family.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
This feels lonely. Absolutely. Obviously, finishing because I have to acknowledge it with the Michael stuff. Obviously, before your mom's relationship with him, there were allegations of abuse and that he assaulted children. Then your mom went on to marry him and you spent a good amount of time with him.
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Like, were there any adults in your life that were like, wait, I don't know if you should be spending time at Neverland. I don't know if we want you to be there. Like, was your dad nervous?
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When your mom would break up with these people and she would like find a different partner at some point in your life, like how do you think that affected your own attachment style?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Yeah, that was what I thought was interesting in the book was like basically saying like when your mom was... when she was passing, like, wasn't he like the last person there basically for her? And through all of these different relationships, didn't she date like Nicholas Cage?
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These big moments that were press moments, but really the through line was like, it seemed like your mom and dad like always kind of stayed by each other's side, which I can imagine for your own like romantic situation. I know you're married now, but like prior to your husband passing, Were you ever feeling that through line of like, ooh, this is getting boring.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I'm going to run or have you – you know what I mean? I definitely had that when I was younger. Okay.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I'm obsessed. I had a band at one point and I was like so committed. Did you really? Yeah, but it was so bad.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Yeah, I love that for you. I mean, that's like really interesting to hear because like I know why I love these type of conversations. It's like you never know what you're going to get because some people could be in your situation being like, I was so petrified because I didn't want to do what my mom had done. Or, you know, you're going to like play out what she was doing.
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But you're like, no, I like went right into it.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
You talk about how your mom was very open with you and that sometimes could feel like a curse. What do you mean by that?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
So yeah, well, here's the thing. You know, I started as like the electric guitarist. Cool. But that is like loosely saying that. The only song I could- A loose electric guitar. Yeah. I relate.
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Wow. Yeah. So would you ever find yourself though, like roles reversed? I feel like sometimes people get to the point where they almost become the mother to their mother. Did you ever play therapist with your mom?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Yeah, our dynamic changed a lot. Can we talk about that? Because so many friends and I have these conversations now. I have people that write in and it's like such a mind fuck when you become the adult in the dynamic with your parent because you're like, wait, no. It's inevitable. It's so...
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
weird and hard and it's like you have to have so you either have to have so many conversations or you don't and it just is what it is and you're left feeling a little bit like an identity crisis because your parent who you could always go to and be like the child to you're kind of now like wait why are you relying on me so heavily for things that like I think the weirdest part about it in my experience is they don't notice they're doing it
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It's such an unsaid thing. Yeah. No, you're so right. Like, they're not aware, but you're aware.
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like grow up like what is going on and that's why I think it's such a mind fuck because then the people or the person that you're most likely going to in your past go to to complain about something like that is your mom so you go to the other one right so you go to your dad and then he's losing it too and you're like oh shit you're all going insane it's really interesting watching my parents get older now I'm like
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Do you feel like you have that dynamic with your parents? I started to in a moment. And I have been doing a lot of therapy. Yeah. And they have – like, my mom and I have talked about, like, our therapy journeys because I'm like, we got to try to not make this happen. Yeah. Like, we – even if we're equals as adults.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I like looked incredible holding it. Okay. But the minute I would get going, it was, I was giving nothing.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Like, how – I think, like, as basic as, like – calling me for help on everything where you're like, how did we get here? How did we get here? How did we get through life where?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I feel the same way. But I also feel like so many people have that point of like, I'm going to do it so differently than my parents. And it feels like every generation says that. And then we keep fucking up.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I knew how to play the like, whatever that song is. I could do those like three little things. Okay. That was all I knew. Our band was called The Aliens. Okay. It was a big deal. It was in my basement. And then we changed it to Green Jelly.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
No, it's such a... No, you're like, and pivot. And pivot. No, I know exactly what you're talking about. Also, I love that you having a daughter, like, did your mom ever talk to you about... the trauma and the grieving process of, like, losing her father and, like, how she dealt with that.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Because I feel like you write a lot in the book of, like, seeing her in a moment, like, crying and drinking and crying over Elvis's death, but then it's, like, how... She never talked about her grief.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Like binged the whole thing and sitting. Loved it.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
You obviously have experienced grief. I mean, you lost your brother and your mom in a span of a couple of years, two years. How have you thought about like how to process grief in terms of one for yourself, but also for your daughter? Because, right, like you watched your mom not be able to handle it till she was about 40, 50 and start to feel it. Like, have you taken different steps?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Just because I know there's so many people that do deal with family members that have addiction. How did your relationship with your mom change when she became addicted to painkillers?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Everyone was loose. Okay. Everyone was loose. Okay. We were kind of just there for the vibes.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Our sign was on like printer paper with like a little marker. Right. It was edgy. It was the thing. I actually paid my neighbors at one point like 25 cents to come watch us perform. Wow. They were upset that we wasted their time. So like I'm a big band girl.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I think that's a good answer, though, because I feel like I feel like there's so many people that go through it and you feel like you're kind of like going in circles at some point. It's like the same thing with it's a way more extreme version of when someone doesn't want to go to therapy and you're trying to get them to go therapy. It's like you can't make the person go to therapy with addiction.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
It's like this person you can try to help. But at some point, you also in a weird way have to like give yourself some grace that like.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I one of the things that you wrote in your book that I felt like was.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
so sad for you because it goes back to that like isolating feeling was when you kind of talked about being seen as a narc by your family you're like I was my brother is telling me to leave the club and I didn't know why and I was like oh he's sending me home so he can start doing drugs in the club and he didn't want you around like how do you think that affected the way you acted around your family because I think the people that aren't doing the drugs like I've had a situation like this where like
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someone trying to hide it from you. And then you also just kind of feeling like not wanted. And as much as you don't want to be a part of the drugs, you also feel like you're being alienated because you're the only quote unquote sober one.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
My husband was like, all right, you could take a break. I'm like, no, no, no. It's kind of one of those where you just got to get. Keep going. Yeah. I got to get to the end. It was awesome. What was your favorite part of playing that role?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
When you went through this two-year span of grief, essentially, or the beginning of, who did you lean on? Who do you go to when you need someone to support you?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Good to know. Good to know. We how do you guys know each other? Like when did you become friends?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
It is. I appreciate you talking about it.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
And I think that's what was wonderful about you writing about your experience in the book is like, like you saying you wanted to go to certain people that had experienced it because you as much as you love certain friends, it's like if they don't understand, if they've never gone through it, you're kind of like, okay, I don't need you to like hold my hand right now. I literally need like answers.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Oh my God, you on Reddit. I love that. I love that for you. Are you also a Reddit sleuth though?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
You're like XXXRFMNNQQ. Narc25. Imagine you're like the biggest Reddit sleuth and this all comes out one day. We find your account. No. Okay. I read that you're a certified death doula.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Can you talk to me about what that entails and how you got into that?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Yeah. When you were in the press with like all of that shit about the estate and everything and legal and all of this, like how does it feel when your family is so publicly like in the news like that? And that I feel like was the first time you were at the forefront of that.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her. Riley Keough, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you. I am such a big fan. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. Of course. I huge Daisy Jones and the Sixth Girl.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
And it's so interesting and maybe it's because of the name and how media was different back in the day and there were just like the core tenants of who was famous and there weren't that many famous people.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
It almost is like they're carrying on that sense of entitlement in media of like, we deserve to know this and we will go to the end of the earth to get the picture and the shot and the information. And you're literally like, Wait.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I'm like, no, no. Nope. You're like, next question. And they're like, wait, you can't say that.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Yeah, it's so interesting. Every generation, it changes and it gets different. And the way that you probably feel about your grandfather is so different than the way that your mother felt about her father and how your daughter will feel about her grandfather, like this empire that he was. That's what's so interesting is...
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Reading this book and hearing you talk about it, for most of us, like, this has been a very long time since Elvis was at the center of the conversation.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Don't you love when like people are obsessed with like celebrity friendships? We're like, no, no, no. Come on. Tell us more. You're like, we're just friends.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
You're like, no, great. Okay. In a way with this book now finally being out, do you feel a sense of relief? Like not that it's being put to bed, but you got to tell this story and now it's like the next chapter of your life is beginning.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
You know, I feel like I didn't we didn't get too crazy. Right. Oh, you wanted to laugh more.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Did your friends think you were coming in to talk about sex?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I mean, I'm an open book. Maybe you're going to have to come back on and we're going to do like a different Call Her Daddy episode. Great. Where we get into the tea. We'll do a tea episode coming soon. I'm very, very appreciative. Thank you so much for taking the time. Thank you for having me. I know this is like a lot. So thank you.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I think because it makes people feel like closer to you guys of like you guys are obviously both like very cool, interesting people. And so I think to know that you guys are friends, people like I'm like, come on, give me more tea.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
OK, OK, good. You did show up today and be like, we don't have to cry.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I don't want you to feel pressure at all. If you hate any of my questions, let me know. Okay. We can pivot. Deal. Okay, good. How do you think- Hate. What? Hate. I'm just kidding. I'm like, let's sit in silence. I do love that you were 30 minutes early and you brought no one.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Can I tell you, I've had people come to my studio with 20 people, 10 people, five people,
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I am the same way whenever I go on a podcast, which is rare. I'm like, no one come with me. I'm going to let it rip. Let God go with me. The cool thing about not having a publicist here is I can say whatever I want. For sure. Then she's going to call you after and be like, what was it? You're like, I don't remember. We talked for almost an hour. Like, who knows? Just let it be.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
You know what I mean? It's fine. You're not going to get canceled from this. How would your friends describe you?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Like how would they describe you? Like if Dakota was in the room right now, like what would she say about you? We could call her also. Do you want to? Let's call her. Hold on. That will be fucking funny. Go get your phone. She didn't answer. Okay, let's call another friend. Okay. All you're asking is how would you describe me as a friend? How would you describe me as a friend? I'm on a show.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Famous is more fun. You're like, I'll call John.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I'm obsessed. Thank you for doing that. First of all, imagine if you're like, I'm just kidding. I'm not on a podcast. I'm just like feeling needy today. Keep going.
Call Her Daddy
Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
You're like, no, no, I am on air. Don't say anything crazy. Don't say anything crazy.
Call Her Daddy
Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
No, all of that was lovely. Oh, good. And when she said you were a bitch, I'm like, that is the complete opposite of what I'm getting. You are a very gentle soul.
Call Her Daddy
Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
allegedly okay let's talk about the book it is so fascinating like what you wrote about yeah um from here to the great unknown first of all just to like tell the daddy gang my audience like how did this book come to be
Call Her Daddy
Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Wait, you were doing like full voice lessons? Yeah.
Call Her Daddy
Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
How do you think like having that project to work on after your mom passed like helps you work through your feelings?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
No, I think like hearing you even say that is interesting when you said like my natural reaction isn't to just like spill all family secrets. And I think just to clarify for anyone that is not like familiar with like your family lineage, like you are Elvis's granddaughter. Your mom was Elvis's only daughter. And so I get what you're saying is like it's a very famous family that you come from, but
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
So to write basically like a big book being like, here's detail by detail what went down. Usually we don't get that from very famous families.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Yes. It was like close to a million dollars.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Was there ever a point in your life that you would have considered a music career?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
Um, can you like looking back at your childhood, obviously growing up in this famous family, what is something that was definitely not normal that like you got pretty used to because you were just like, oh, I thought this was our reality. Like all of it.
Call Her Daddy
Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
It's the external. You're keeping it all together. But internally? Yes. Okay. Good to know. How would you have described yourself as a kid?
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
I feel like you have a good voice unless they auto-tuned it.
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Riley Keough: Nepo babies, Addiction & Grief
come out of my shell I don't want to be talking yeah but I have a camera in front gotta be here hi everyone oh that's so interesting so if like you're in if you're going through something in your life whether it's like a fight with your partner or a friend like Do you just go silent?
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
They're just like those kind of sneaky margaritas that like you get really fucked up from them. And the last time or the first time we didn't know how strong they were. When I moved to Los Angeles with Lauren, we were staying at Matt's house and he was away on a business trip. And Lauren and I, he was like, you guys should order from this place. And we got these margaritas.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And you're there to listen. And but you also have like some information that you want to give them, but you're not putting it on them to like now deal with alone. And I feel like when I told you it was going to happen over New Year's.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
you were like whoa okay and we really for context like this past new yes this past new year's Lauren was gonna get engaged and I think you were so um like whoa this is a another big red flag of like how does he think that can even happen when all of these problems are happening and I think that was kind of when it all started to unravel a little bit more for you because you really were just seeing like huh it was kind of like a like a like a like a
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
In now being single, like what do you feel like you've now realized like you really want and need in a partner moving forward?
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
You said that to me the other day when we were in the car and I thought it was so profound and I... want to keep talking about this a little bit for the daddying because you were like, every time my therapist was challenging me, like, oh, are you wanting that because of X? Like, I feel like you've gotten so good being alone. And I feel like you've always been a relationship girl.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And they're so fucking good. They're these like cucumber green margaritas. So Lauren and I start downing them. And we're in the hot tub with floats, which was weird in itself. And we're in the hot tub and we're with our floaties and slowly. We're like blasting music. Oh, we found out how to do the strobe lights in the pool.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
So I'm so proud of you right now. Like I've never really, really, really seen you just like single Lauren, like for this long in a strong way where you're like, I'm a little like, ooh, I wonder what she's going to do. You're like, you've never been, I feel like, happier. And you don't have a partner.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
No, literally. No, it's so true. You've never been happier. You've never been hotter. You just turned 30. You're thriving. And I feel like something that... it's obvious is like for the daddy gang, like we have both been at points in our life where we're both single and we aren't that good at being alone.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And so we're like chasing after something like, tell me if I'm, if you're okay with me saying this, but I think something that you had talked to me about that was like, I think very relatable was like, this was the first relationship that you were like, I actually felt like
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
I feel like I've just like lost so many people in my life that like I love. So like, I don't want to, what do I, I, my innate feeling is to hold on to this person because how am I going to just like, Oh, I was, yeah, I was so like, this is it.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
Well, now, you know, once you really have that like first like adult relationship of love, I'm not talking about like we've all been in love before. But when you're talking about like love, love of like, oh, I could see a future with this person. Then you really start to realize, which I think. I'm so happy. I feel like we were able to have a lot of conversations with like me, you and Matt.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
Cause I've learned so much being in my first year of marriage that I felt like you started to kind of like ask Matt and I questions throughout this.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And I feel like his advice a lot was like, you, there's so much more to a marriage than love. Yeah. Like if anything, that's like the easiest part.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
Morals, values, compatibility, what you want as a family. Career-wise. Career, money, socioeconomic, where you're going to live, how you interact with your in-laws, how you want to raise your kids, where you want them to go to school. All of that is shit that I think...
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
people don't talk about it maybe enough where it's like, you have to have these fucking conversations, I genuinely believe, before you get married and before you get engaged. And I think a lot of times it's like people are feeling in love and then they're
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
excited and they're moving in and then you think once you get married then like you become you like start to do all this it's like no no daddy gang you need to figure it out before because i think again you watched it with yourself is like you were in love that was down but then
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
I think you have a lot of friends around you who are going through like whether they just got married or their first year of marriage or their second year of marriage. And so you're watching all of us kind of like do this dance.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
Yep. And do you – to anyone that is the single friend in a dynamic like that, like – Can you talk about how you don't feel pressured by people just by seeing your friends at one stage of their life? Like, how are you maintaining just like confidence to not feel like, oh, well, I'm the only one, so I have to hurry up and do it. Like, how are you feeling like you're managing that?
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
Because I you could I don't know if I'm saying that right. Like, I feel like you're doing such a good job of just being like, and I'm so happy for all of you and I'm happy for myself and I'm good on my like what I'm doing.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And so Matt looks at his security cameras and it looks like we actually threw a rager at his house. And he's like,
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
That's nice to hear because I'm sure girls are like going out of a breakup being like, bitch, I'm on my fourth month and I'm still struggling.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
shed that right because I feel like that's something we should talk about too of like I've done it before a previous relationship prior to Matt like daddy gang we've all been there or you're currently in it where you are you see the path you see the future and And it is so comforting knowing you can see what your timeline is.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And sometimes having the guy, it makes you feel like, even though I have these reservations, I'm okay with looking past it. Cause I can't give all this up. I can't give this timeline up. Like I'm right here. I'm like, right.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
well you see actually there was no party well it was a party but just two people it was just lauren and i and he's like i'm having a hard time believing that alex like look at my backyard it looks like there was like a fucking brothel back there and i was like and like the neighbor called and gave me a noise complaint like i've never had that happen since i've lived here and i was like
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And I remember I said to Lauren when she was like, I feel like I was like right about to hit the finish line. I was like, babe, You have not, you are literally putting on your fucking outfit and your gear. You're not even in the race yet. Like, I know that sounds cheesy, but it's so true.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
It's like, if you feel like you're just about to get there, you're about to get the engagement, you're about to, it's like, no, no, no, no. You haven't even started the fucking marathon yet. You are literally just putting on the clothes to see if they fucking fit. Does the uniform look good? Does it fit? How does it feel? OK, then when you start marriage, that's when the fucking race begins.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And I feel like or again, even if it's not marriage for certain people, whether it's you want to have a kid or whether you decide to be life partners. But for you, I feel like that's such a relatable feeling to women listening of marriage.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
You don't want to disrupt what you feel like you've spent so much time building and you're willing to potentially look past these problems because holistically it's really starting to shape out.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And the problem is, is what I've always said on this show, you guys, that my mom had always told me from a young age was like anything that bothers you in your relationship will get 10 times worse when you're married. Anything that bothers you in your relationship will get 10 times worse when you're married.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And that is disorienting and hard to hear because I think you and I had a lot of conversations of like, Your ex is a good guy. Yeah, absolutely. It's just compatibility wise. We started to talk about things where it was like it wasn't the right person. Yeah. And we would be like, no, no, Lauren, like you're saying this and this is how it's making you feel.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
glaring like yeah there was no moment of like oh shit like that was so bad you have to end it it was just like these micro things that you kept you know what it was a lot of too which is people listening you may have this where you're just like am I okay with this? Yeah. Am I okay with compromising and when is it not compromising?
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And it's like actually kind of giving up something that's important to me or something I did think I want in life.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
I think when you really got to the point of knowing is when you were laying it out and speaking to your friends a bunch. And it was like, you were literally starting to compromise on every single thing in your life and everything. And it wasn't even compromise. It was just like,
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
Yeah. You would say it, but it was like a story you were telling yourself. And then when you, and this is where daddy gang, like finding friends to make sure that who won't judge you, but can talk with it because I've been in the scenario too, where I would go to Lauren when I was going through a breakup being like, I'm so devastated.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
But you kept me on track to be like, but that's not what you want. I feel like when you went through this, we did the same thing where it was like, this is hard that you're giving all this up. But how about you reframe it and think, can you imagine if you went through with it just because it felt like you were so close to the finish line? Then you marry this guy and you have kids.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
Yeah. I don't agree with the way where that we're doing this and this and this and this. But I wanted to just get the ring and get the marriage. And I think that's a really, really understandably relatable thing that women.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
It's just the two of us. And so Lauren and I now always have a joke with Matt where we're like, we're hitting the green marks again. And he's like, Jesus fucking Christ, the two of you together. But to be fair, I feel like whenever it's just the two of us together and we're not like interacting with other people, we are of a pretty like straight and narrow path that we always go on.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
can feel like i remember dating a guy that was so like financially stable at a time where i really wasn't and it became and i think also like growing up and not being like having my parents have like all this money even though being around friends that had it
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
I definitely like wanted that like and so it was attractive to me to have like financial security and so I was completely avoiding a lot of things that upset me or made me feel not good about myself because of this main thing that I thought it's okay I can look past these things because I feel safe with him but it's like but why do you feel safe with him
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
you don't feel like he's actually being like faithful to you. It's because of the financial stability. And while that is a huge thing when you think about certain aspects, that doesn't mean fucking shit if you don't have an actual good relationship. Money is fucking great, but it's not fucking great if you're getting cheated on or you're getting fucking emotionally abused or whatever it be.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
So I think a huge lesson for the daddy gang that we can take from what you're talking about is like you felt in your gut Compatibility wise, you were off in moments. But you kept going forward because you really also didn't want to give up. the good parts. Yeah.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
That's what I think is so crazy. I remember that because we talked about that after that session you had. It was like, yeah, I guess you could say you're blowing up your life. Not really. You're just ending something that was going to bring you in one direction. But it's a portion and everything else is going to stay the same. I remember saying that. Do you remember?
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
I was like, yeah, you're going to go to work.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
on Monday then you're gonna go to drinks with your friends that night like everything is kind of the same but then a huge chunk will be missing and so it's really really terrifying as women because we don't have the flexibility like men do to just keep it fucking moving oh that didn't that one didn't work out I can go over here like they just they have a different level of privilege and we're
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
while that is true, I really, truly believe that, like, staying in something just to appease one other aspect of your life that you're looking for is really going to come and bite you in the ass. So I also think being easier on yourselves if things aren't working daddy gang recognizing that sometimes neither of you are bad people.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
What's our straight and narrow path? We love either alcohol or marijuana to like have a little fun together. Not in that way. That sounds weird. But you know what I mean? Like, we like our little, like, thing. But then we're, like, usually passing out pretty early.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
It's just it quite literally is like your traumas and your strong suits and your issues and your things that you bring to the table that are good and bad.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
sometimes they just don't fucking work with someone and instead of trying so hard to force it while yes a relationship is work at some point you have to look at yourself and I genuinely believe for you Lauren like I'm so happy that you lived with him I'm so happy that you went all the way to the point of seeing yourself in a dress with a ring all of it
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
Because now we talk about this a lot of like, I can't wait to see the person that you meet next because you are a better person because of that past relationship.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And so technically, though, think about this, Daddy Gang, if we're doing the fucking math, although maybe you would be engaged right now and planning a wedding.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
we have talked about like now knowing how much there was breaking down there's a chance either one you would have been in a really pretty unfulfilling unhappy marriage which could have ended in divorce now you're still so much closer though to just pure happiness of finding your person and i think that should hold
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
a lot of hope in a lot of people's minds if you're about to end something or this episode is helping you think about reevaluating do you want to take that next step well yes the next step seems super straightforward and easy if you're not a hundred percent in knowing that's the right next step you're then gonna have to take a lot of back steps once you go forward because it's gonna be like well fuck this isn't working but
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
Don't force something that's not there. Everyone's timelines, while yes, it can be straightforward, a lot of times with timelines, they're just going to like fuck you into making like more rushed decisions where it's like, if you didn't have this in your head and if we didn't have a time clock, like, Would you make that decision?
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And I feel like the older I'm getting, I'm like, I can have these, like, fun rager moments, which I feel like I've been having lately. But it has to be spread out. And a lot of times, like, I'm going to go to bed at least by midnight. Yeah.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
I just wouldn't have thought it. And yet here you are. And I feel like, again, had you gone down that path with that ex-boyfriend, you wouldn't have probably even had a chance to recognize that because of just this timeline.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And then once you got the kid, we're like, oh, we're going to. And then it's all these distractions and you these milestones and everything's good for a little bit. And then once you hit that, there's a come down and then you're like, well, what the fuck is next? And you you've seen those those relationships with people.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
I think it's so beautiful when you said this to me the other day and I was like emotional for you because I feel like. We have so many things that we're just taught from young age as women and no one really tells us. But by the way, you can do it completely different. You don't have to do that. We don't have to do what our moms did.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And I feel like this is such a beautiful place in your life that you're in. Like you're really, really in control right now and in tune with what you want. And thank God you listen to yourself more. When you were in something that would have been easy to move forward with but difficult in the long run, it's like the short-term reward, really you have to think about the long-term.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And now the fact that you're able to realize all these things about yourself, I'm just so happy for you. And I really hope people listening can find their version of what you and I are both going through right now. Because I think we're both at a period where we're really having to look at ourselves. And as women, we don't feel comfortable.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And if you don't know, that's your first step that you need to spend some more alone time with yourself. If you're in a relationship, that still means you should be spending alone time and checking in with yourself. But you guys, Lauren and I this summer...
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
are aligned we are i'm on my i'm doing a huge fucking victory lap and enjoying my fucking time being a newlywed and lauren is fucking single and she's going to have a good summer and so i'm just celebrating myself yes and so the two of us i feel like it's this beautiful
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
gonna be a great fucking summer of us just like going a lot of fun plans you guys we have so many fun plans that i i don't want to fully tell you about because it will be fun um to roll like for you roll out our social calendar for you guys um but also more importantly i think lauren and i will need to come back on this couch soon because um there's a couple things that maybe you'll find out soon that little announcements yeah that you and i haven't really um
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And it was so fun. Yeah. Like after we would be at the party or we would go to the strip club, we need to talk about the strip club. I just thought about that as I'm staring at your face. We would go out, but then we would always come back to me and Matt's room and we would all sit there and like have like a nightcap and talk and schmooze and do the thing. That was enjoyable to me.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
Ever ever ever talked about. That I think will definitely. Catch people by surprise. Yeah I think the daddy gang is going to be like.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
shocked but also like oh it all makes sense now yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so that's all all good things are coming this summer but um thank you for sharing all this and because I do really think like so much of what you are going through right now and always is like so relatable and I feel like a lot of people really appreciate whenever you come and sit down so thank you Lauren this was this was a fucking wholesome ass episode yeah
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
Daddy gang, we love you. Thank you so much for tuning in and I will see you fuckers next Wednesday. Goodbye.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
But if it's me and Matt or it's just me and you and there's no part...
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
We can still drink a bottle of wine and go to bed and wake up the next day. Speaking of the Miami Strip Club. Yes. Can we tell the daddy gang? Yes. Yes. So we throw our Unwell Miami weekend and it was truly so fun. And Lauren comes and we end up after a night at the Unwell Club. We do a late, late night and we go to 11 in Miami, which is a club slash strip club. Mm hmm.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Daddy gang, welcome back to another episode of Call Her Daddy. Lauren and I are sitting. We kind of feel like we look like the parents from Willy Wonka. We are sitting on the couch, but we really wanted to like be comfortable and not have our feet fall asleep on the couch.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And so we're in a little bit of a relaxed situation, but we're happy. I could like doze off right here. Like I could take like a nap in this position. I'm really cozy. Same. Okay. Wait. Oh, so just for context, Lauren and I are on kind of like a girl's weekend in Los Angeles. Matt is taking his brother to go golf because my brother-in-law and my sister-in-law. No.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
So we get to the club and we are we get a table. We're all standing there. And I remember I'm like talking to Matt and he's whispering my ear. And then all of a sudden I look and Lauren is standing with this tall man. And at our table. And I know who this man is because he is a reality star. And he's been to a couple of our events before.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
But I know my best friend is barely has social media and doesn't watch reality TV. And she has no idea who this person is. No idea. You just think he's like a hot guy. Yeah. And then the next morning I asked Lauren, like, wait, what? No, we get in the van to leave because we end up leaving because we were like it was too crowded.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And like none of the strippers could even come to our table, which was like I was ready for like a lap dance. To throw some bands. Yes. I brought fucking a bunch of cash. I was like ready to fucking pay the strippers. And then they never ended up being able to get to our table. So we were like, this isn't even as much as fun. We leave.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
We get into the van and tell the daddy gang what happened with your night.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
But I'm not, like, hammered. You don't even have, I think at that point, because we had left the club and hung out for a minute before we went to 11.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
So, like, none of us had a buzz. No. We were sober at 11. Yes. Which was fine. Fine. But to get a sober lap dance with a man that you've barely ever met.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
But you were just like, I'm literally, like, fresh sober, basically.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
What's your name? What's your occupation? Who are you? Exactly. I remember in real time when this was happening, I turn and I clearly hit you right in that middle of that conversation because all I remember hearing you say is, let me have one more drink and think about it.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
that was literally your response and I'm looking at you and I'm looking up at him being like what did he just ask her for Lauren to be like let me have one more drink and think about it because you're a down ass bitch so I was like what is Lauren postponing in order to like liquor herself up and then I find out that he basically asked you to go into the private room and then we left and he stayed but for now Lauren's still on the hunt I'm just out there living my life but I feel like you're in a really good headspace of like
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
You are really, really in a good way single now because like how long has it been since your breakup? Like five months now. Okay.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
And it was, like, I remember I had said to you I was nervous for you because you guys obviously live together. So once the breakup happened, you had to, like, figure out, like, all the logistics.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
But then once that happened and the last day that you guys saw each other of, like, you got to take things from the apartment and all that stuff.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
I was so proud of you because I was so scared of you. that like you guys also shared each other's locations and stuff and I was like is she gonna is she gonna and then I remember I talked to you like a week after and you were like unshared location haven't talked it's over and the fact that it's gone no contact for five months I feel like it's really allowed you to focus on yourself and not
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
feel like you're lightly getting pulled back into it even if you had any questions that you've been kind of like going through in reflecting on the relationship I feel like you've been just taking full accountability of like I don't need to ask him I'm gonna do the work in therapy about like why did I put up with this or why did I do this or why did I act this way like whatever it is you're finding the answers within yourself and I think a lot of times daddy gang we can use
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
questions we have and think well it's just closure I just want to have one more conversation because I want to kind of like figure out why we both did this and it's like that's just prolonging you being able to move on I agree right so talk to me now though about like five months out of a breakup what have you realized about yourself because I don't think the daddy gang knows how close.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
It is? Yeah. Yeah. My brother-in-law and sister-in-law are having a baby. And so Matt is taking his brother to go golf and on like on a little golf trip before they like have a kid, whatever. And so Lauren's in town and we were like, oh my God, why don't we stay relaxed? Go have like a nice pool spa weekend. Girls weekend. And we're going to drink a little bit.
Call Her Daddy
I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
Because I think in a beautiful way, I found my boundary of like privacy that I feel like I needed to instill in with this show and with the internet. And I'm so happy I did that. And I feel like you with call her daddy in a completely understandable way. Like he was a private person and you and I aren't that private of
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
people like we don't really care so but the people we've are with and you were with wanted privacy and so like you were respecting that so you didn't really talk about your relationship a lot so I think a lot of people online I even saw still to this day are like wait Lauren broke up with the boyfriend and like so she's single and like what's happening like do you mind explaining how close you were to like this being the person you were about to spend the rest of your life with
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
he talked to me and matt he talked to kristin kristin's our other best friend from childhood like at our me and matt's wedding he went to kristin and was like oh my gosh i obviously like can't i don't want to bring it up to alex and matt right now because they're literally getting married but i want to propose to lauren um during the like holiday new year time and can you just like make sure you put us all on chat because i want to make sure that they can be there because they want he wanted us to like surprise you like how you guys did for me him and i came to your engagement so it was like
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
That could one day make sense. But from the stuff that I had heard from you, I wasn't sure you guys were like ready for that. But I'm not in your relationship, obviously. So I was like, I need to just like catch up with Lauren. And obviously I didn't want to tell you he's going to propose to you.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
We're going to chill and it's going to be a good time.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
Because I was like, Lauren, that was like one of the harder things. things I think I've I was going back and forth with and I think again in the best way I feel like our relationship is so beautiful because I feel like we both talk about we have so many friends that you communicate with friends differently but you and I have always had this thing where it's like
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
we're so honest with each other and i think we both have found our way to be even when it's hard what we're going to talk about we are so like graceful in the way that we approach things with each other and respectful very very very much have i feel like a policy of like it is your life and i don't know your life and like it's your life yes and it's also as your best friend yeah
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
I have to share this about the things I'm seeing. Yeah. And then I'm once that's out, I'm here to game plan everything that you need. I'll support you. Yes. Whatever. Yeah. And I think that was like a thing that I would give Daddy Gang is like, I forgot that.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
I remember multiple times in that conversation because I had literally talked about it with my therapist and she had said, like, you have to continue to reassure Lauren.
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I Called Off My Engagement (ft. Lauren)
OK, that makes me feel good. No, but and I and you were great in the moment. And I think I stand by it, too. But again, Daddy Gang, if you are in this position where you're seeing your friend not in the best relationship and you're like, how do I do it? You have to come from the place of like you have to remind them that you're not judging them, that you will be there no matter what.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I think this is the earliest I've ever done an interview on Call Her Daddy. Really? Everyone's always like, ooh, can we do it late night? Like, I think Megan Fox and I did it at legit 10 o'clock at night. So you're like... Do you feel like you do better in the morning or at night? Like, do you feel like you... I don't know. You let me know.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Cause I agree. It's like, that is the stuff that I was doing around my neighborhood when like kids would be like,
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Who do you think is most likely to have the craziest fan interaction?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I was going to say, I feel like you've had, what is like one of your weirder fan interactions that you've had in your life?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
him Millie I'm trying to help you know I don't want to make him feel bad those are the moments in life where like I I have so much respect when you watch those videos of like a celebrity getting just like cornered and in that moment there's no right way to handle that and probably if someone wasn't being filmed like a normal person be like what the fuck are you doing yeah but you're like
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
This is so thoughtful. You worked so hard on that. No, I know. I'm obsessed. Yeah, I know. Okay. You obviously had to shave your head the first season.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Wait, so you're saying if you, when you have your first child, you would shave your head?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
That's pretty incredible that even you saying like you experienced bullying from it. You did it at a young age. But now I feel like to hear someone own something that they were shamed for and made fun of and be like, oh, I do it again.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Like that's how do you think you got, though, to that point from being like insecure about it at one point to now wanting to almost like relive the feelings and experience again?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I loved that episode so much. Thank you. She is like one of one. I feel like she's like my older sister when I sit down with her.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Even you talking about that though, Millie, of starting at 10, Then having this experience where people were so fixated on like what you were looking like and your hair and then you start to mature and become a young woman. And I feel like it was obvious for so long that you were so hyper sexualized in media. Everyone was so fascinated as you were growing up.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
How do you think that impacted the way that you approached romantic relationships as you started to like become a young woman? you were so hyper-sexualized in media. Everyone was so fascinated as you were growing up. How do you think that impacted the way that you approached romantic relationships as you started to become a young woman?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
yeah and it's crazy because I don't know if you've ever had this moment but like in your career but like I looked up to Chelsea so much I watched her on late night like she when I was like sitting in my house in Pennsylvania wanting to make it like she was the person that I looked up to so to now be like friends with her I'm like oh What is life?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I feel like every time I've sat down with anyone that was a child actor, they talk a lot about how normalized it was. You kind of mentioned you're around adults all day.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
You were fortunate to have a pretty big cast of, like, younger kids.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Do you find that you are different? Like, Even me, like sitting with me, I'm just turned 30. Like thinking about you interacting with me versus if you were interacting with like a six-year-old, do you think you would speak to us differently or like your vibe changes?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Like, have you ever met a celebrity where you're like, I can't believe I'm I guess you're Pam Anderson moment?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I love that for you though, because you don't need to be on TikTok.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I love that for you. I actually think you should stay right there because the shit that fills our brains online, none of this is useful. None of it. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about your relationship. Okay. You married Jake Bon Jovi. How did you guys meet?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I don't need a best friend. No, I know. But I'm glad you thought it was all just like platonic at first.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I know he's gonna kill me for saying that but that is the truth that though is like what I do love about that is I feel like on the other side I've spoken to women about their like interactions with the guy at first and it's like there's something endearing when a guy is not like the most like aggressive pursuer because it just feels like you being the one that was like Yeah, I know.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I just can't. I can't bear it. Now in hindsight, I remember back in New York when I dated this guy.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
He was there with like his little joggers on and he was just standing. We're both gonna throw up.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
got him in a headlock yeah no absolutely not so you know he broke the cycle thank god oh my god jake we love that for you yeah no i know okay i heard that the first time then jake hung out with your family yeah is you went on an rv road trip all of you together yeah i know what
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Not your dad being like, you know what? I'm going to keep it fucking moving. I'm going to keep moving and let's see how you get in. Also kind of baller that Jake was like, instead of just standing there like, wait, stop the car. No, no, no.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I am. Thank you for sharing this because I'm like physically crying over here. The picture that you're painting is this like beautiful chaos. And then the RV trip, it is like you're a part of the family.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Wait, was it as crazy when you met his family?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Okay. We're going to play who's more likely to. Okay. Are you ready? Yeah. Okay. Who is more likely to plan a surprise date night? Out of Jake and I? Me. Really? What's your ideal date night?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Can you talk to me about how you ended up living on a farm in Georgia? Like what? This is not giving farm girl. This is not.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Yeah. Love. Who is more likely to do something embarrassing in public?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
If you look back, most cringe moment where you're like, do not show me that. Whether it's like something we've seen online. Do you know what?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
love that about you yeah I didn't know that about you so I'm like I appreciate you sharing this because it's definitely painting a better picture of like who you are behind all the characters that you play yeah um okay who's more likely to spill a secret me Jake is like a vault I am terrible I tell people don't tell me don't tell me I'm gonna tell people what is the craziest rumor you've ever heard about yourself
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Okay. Who is more likely to be the life of the party? Me. Me. Really?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Clearly not. Okay. Who is more likely to splurge on a big purchase? My husband. Really? What is he getting?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Well, I'm sure you're like, you didn't need that. I'm like, you don't need that, babe. And he's like, I know. Yeah. Do you remember like when you got your like first big paychecks, obviously from Stranger Things and you're like, wow, like my life is going to be different now. Do you remember anything that you purchased where you were like stressed about it?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
But you're like, I'm going to do this for myself. Do you remember when you got your first big paychecks, obviously from Stranger Things, and you're like, wow, my life is going to be different now? Do you remember anything that you purchased where you were stressed about it, but you were like, I'm going to do this for myself?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
That's so, so sweet. Yeah. Okay. You got married around the same time that I did last year. Yes. I remember like seeing your photos. Yes, I remember seeing yours. No, you looked...
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
sweet thank you i i remember like the first day i told the daddy gang that i had a boyfriend i was like gonna vomit i remember calling my mom being like what if they're mad at me like i i'm not doing the single days anymore no she was like i think they're gonna be ready for it alex like you've given them enough of how to like be single now let's show them maybe if you can do a relationship ample experiences of like that you know like and you have guests that are able to go like talk about that but like you being in love is so important thank you thank you you know your journey is priority thank you
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Let's talk about your wedding. Okay. One to ten. Yeah. How bridezilla were you? Okay.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Okay, take me through how many animals you now have that you're like, goodbye, parents. Hello, my own farm. How many animals and can you name them all?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
not at all this is so beautiful yeah so because first of all picturing you back there you I already now like getting to know you more you're like one yeah I'm like three you're so cute in yeah that you're like almost like directing.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I did. I think like I had it a little different in the sense that like I wasn't as into the planning. But then when I got there, it was truly one of the most magical weekends of my life. And like everything fell into place. It was so perfect. And I hate even saying those words because I was the person on my show being like, don't stress about your wedding. And then I got there and I was like,
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Millie Bobby Brown, welcome to Call Her Daddy. I'm so excited. You look so major right now.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
This is incredible. Everything you've built with this person and not just this person with your family is coming together. There's just this aura around you that is so indescribable. I know. Because when you go to other people's weddings, not to be a dick, but you don't really care when you're there. You're like, I'll have a drink. I'll sit here. I know. The vows are cute. You're crying.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
But you're not that. When it's yours. No, it's a different feeling. It's a different feeling. So I had the come down of just like, whoa. Yeah. I wish I could go back and...
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Don't, didn't you feel that once you do the vows and the ceremony? Yeah. Done. First dance. I did get a little bit. Did you do a fast dance? Okay. I didn't do a first dance because I was like, I have two left feet. I don't want to do this. So we did a first shot where we got everyone a shot. But wait, what did you dance to?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
That is so iconic. Yeah. Think of you guys doing that together. Yeah. But that's the beauty of having these moments in weddings where it's like you have to make it what you want it to be. You can't go on just Pinterest and actually try to replicate exactly what someone else said, because it's like, what have you dreamt of or what do you want?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
And that moment for you guys, no one's ever going to do that. And if they do, it's because they're copying you. And it's like that was your original moment. Yeah. OK, I saw that Bon Jovi didn't perform. Did he at least get like, do you want to do it? Or was he like, no, I don't want to do it.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
What was the most traditional and non-traditional thing you did?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
it was one of my favorite parts of my wedding was cutting my cake what did you think i definitely did you feed it to each other and do the whole thing we did it was very special and i actually liked it because our moment we kind of did it on the side where when everyone was doing their own thing we kind of didn't do it in front of people oh cute we were by ourselves and i think it was another like touch base moment to just be like private and alone for two seconds because you know when you're there it is just balls to the wall yeah everyone's in and it's so fun but we tried to find little moments we were alone and we ended up doing it alone it was really cute that's lovely we did you guys
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I am so happy for you. Like, I just love talking now about weddings. Yes, me too. Because obviously I saw your pictures. You guys look so happy. It's so fun to just like talk about all the girly things. I know. Yeah. We're here because you have a new movie. First of all, just congratulations, obviously, The Electric State. Can you tell me just like about the process, why you loved this project?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Like, what was it about this that you were like, I need to be a part of this and I want to be a part of it?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
That is so nice because I feel like every time in this industry, you're like waiting to meet someone. Yeah. And you're like, I hope- Have you ever? met someone where you go yes wow it's such a letdown isn't it i know because you're so hopeful and then they're sometimes it's the ones where you're like we i didn't expect that have just tell me have have they been on the show yes okay
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
No, but that's really good to know that you had a good vibe. Oh my God. No, it's wonderful. It's such a great experience. You tend to now, like, I feel like play these really adventurous hero characters. Yeah. Why do you think you've been gravitating towards that in your career?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
move forward in in a really inspired way um and so for me like yeah everything i've done thus far feels that and electric state definitely feels that i like love hearing you say that because i think sometimes it's lost on people when actors take roles they must sometimes just be like oh the paycheck was right or the cast was there and the fact that you were like intentionally
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
seeking out moments in your career and recognizing like oh this is like an opportunity for like a greater conversation yeah I feel like people do look at you like that Millie where people are like wow you have such a presence on screen thank you but then the undertones of the characters you're playing have such a presence for women which is like not easy to do yeah so thank you for just like picking these great characters thank you so much
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
How many of these animals are sleeping in bed with you at night?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I was like, you're even better in person. Really? She's the most normal, down to earth, cool, like everything about her. I was like, oh my God. I love. Even better. I know. So whenever you meet her, you're going to just be like, Alex told me about you. And whenever I meet Meryl, I'll be like, Millie told me about you.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
You know? Okay. Last question. Yeah. What do you wish more people knew about you?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I appreciate you sharing that though, because it does humanize you even more of like, I think sometimes people just really don't understand the actual level of scrutiny that women go through compared to men.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
And it's just like an obvious of like, even I'm sure some of your co-stars, like I have other men in the industry that like I'm compared to, and I'm like, they've never experienced certain things that like, It's just a different level, especially like you're right. We literally met you on screen when you were 10 years old.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I think there's like a hyper fixation on you that as a human being, as a young woman, like it's so much pressure. And I'm so happy that yes, you're saying like you've gotten to a point where it doesn't affect you, but it still doesn't mean it should happen.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
yes yes yes like we could do a whole fucking episode about that together at one point in our careers of just like it's wild so i thank you though for like coming and speaking today with me because this was so fun you're you are so fun i'm thinking about like jay castanel listen to this in bed oh my god would you ever watch this back or no are you gonna be like don't show me what i said i
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Like you, like so little and then you just have this dog that's ginormous. I see people online are saying that you're in your trad wife era. What is your take on that?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I don't know. Oh, I love that for Jake. You know, like I don't know what that means. I want to just say also, I was thinking about it.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
like i i think it also depends on where you're at in your life like i was cooking on sunday i cooked for my husband i was like i am a trad wife through and through yeah because i never cook so i also think it's like that i cook every night you cook every night i cook every night yeah this is the problem i know oh you're full trad wife
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
What is your go-to dish? What does Jake give it to me now?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
She's meal prepping. She's meal prepping people.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Like that is something I really, I can't. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. Okay, I want to get to know you a little better today. So I'm going to ask you some questions and you're just going to answer first thing that comes to your mind and then we can discuss. All right. If you could be cast... into any reality TV show, which would you choose?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I am so Love Island through and through. And I feel like anytime someone would ask me this, I'm like, shit, I'm married? But my answers would always be the, like, Love Island versions. But then I'm like, I'm married. But that's all I watch is, like, the loved ones.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Wait, can we talk about your blonde hair? Yes. Are you feeling like this is like an alter ego? Like what's the vibe?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
It's so fun. It's so fun. Okay. Sabrina Carpenter arrested you at her Atlanta show. Yeah. But if you really went to jail, what do you think it would be for?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
We watch it on love island like you watch the difference us just had its best season yet it still doesn't compare to the banter the drama is great the drama here is so much better yeah but in in england the banter is unmatched the banter okay what is something random that pisses you off oh i mean what pisses you off um like what like what random are we talking here no
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Like, depends how gossipy we want to get. I'm like, when someone lies to my face, and you can I can kind of tell when someone's lying. Same. Because you know, when they like do that clenched jaw thing where you're like, no, you're fully lying to my face. But I then am bad at being confrontational. Right. Right.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
I need to get so much better at that because I wait and then I like ruminate on it and I'm thinking.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
unbelievable like these dresses were they're timeless that they were ridiculous and these pants were a part of it and I was like call her daddy without a doubt call her daddy the fact that you're wearing Pam Anderson pants and you look like this today I'm like it's gonna be a good fucking morning it's gonna be a great morning
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Yeah. Do you have Jake sit on your the side where you can't hear when you're having date night?
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
It depends on the seating. Like if it's a booth situation, I love a corner booth. Yeah. So we can both be in there and we're people watching. Yes. And we're like, look at those freaks. Look at that person. They look like they're breaking up. Yeah, exactly. I love that. Sometimes we'll be across from each other. Yeah. You're next to each other.
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Millie Bobby Brown: Not Eleven Forever
Let's talk about you growing up. Okay. Obviously you got your big break on Stranger Things. Yeah. We need a little behind the scenes. You have the biggest fandom. Obviously, people will forever love the show. Can you share like any funny or chaotic story that just like happened behind the scenes that we weren't privy to as fans that you can just give us a little anything?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Okay, so you had your first kiss in high school, junior year. Yeah. Who was your first boyfriend?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Okay. You ended up going to Cabrini University. Yes. What was your reputation on campus? Because that's a small campus, right? Itty bitty. Yeah. Tiny. The athletes all stuck together. So I feel like it was very close knit. I had the same thing. Like all the best. Just like your family. Yes.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Which is I think like I always said whenever people ask me for advice about going to college, I was like, even if you're not an athlete, like if you can get into a group, you are going to thrive. Like join a fucking the jazz club or whatever the fuck it is. Because then you have like 20 people already that are your friends. And I had that immediately when I got in there.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
And then you don't feel like you're like a floundering fish, right? Okay. Did you get into dating?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Okay, so what is, like, the most trouble you've ever gotten in your life? You're like, I've been arrested, actually. No, no.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
I can't even look at you right now. I feel like a horrible person. Okay, we're going to play a game. One of your favorite phrases is, I have no business doing that. So I'm going to give you a scenario and you tell me if you do it or you have no business doing that. Okay, perfect. Dye your hair platinum blonde.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Same. But I'm like there's nothing that I can even picture for a second that I'm like this needs to be on me until I'm 90. Yes. I changed my mind. I don't know what I want.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Right? Yes. Me in college making a decision of a tattoo. You'd have an infinity symbol? I would hate myself. With a heart? And I would want you to bully me and be like, why do you? That's just it. I don't. The infinity symbol, I shout out to the girls that got it on a whim. That are living. That are living. With infinity. And beyond.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
I'm not a tattoo person, but I respect people that are.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
That's it. Moving on. Film a reality show about your family. No business.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
I get what you mean. No, I think that is something that's so crazy when you meet – you see people on the internet or in tabloids or whatever the fuck and you're like – you have this idea and then you meet them. It's like, guys, we're all just like normal human beings. We're all shitting. We're all dealing with life. We're all sweating. We have ass sweats.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Anna Wintour's quaking. Okay. She's like, but I sent you an invitation. She would never. Would you ever throw a Phillies first pitch?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
You're not going to throw the ball. But I'm not throwing the ball. But you could throw it. Yeah. A thousand. I have full faith that I can throw it. Okay. Would you ever go on a silent wellness retreat?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Where are we going? Dress in disguise to hide from paparazzi. No. No. I probably wouldn't. I'd just flip them off.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Do you think 20 or 30? Yeah. 30 feels like a milestone.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Wait, what was the song for your first dance? You Are the Best Thing by Ray LaMontagne.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Oh, I get what you're saying. I feel that way about my dog Henry right now. I'm like, I love you, Bruce, but like Henry is like the OG. I wonder if that like affects how they feel about themselves.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
I grew up in Pennsylvania. You get it. I get it. And we've been through a lot. And Philly fans, it's aggressive. That's a very nice way to say it. Really? Yeah, yeah. How would you describe Philly fans?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
It must be so wild to have children when you say things like as an adult, it must take a minute to realize how much shit sticks with them. You're like, oh, you really believed that concept. I didn't realize that was like penetrating you in the way that I was just like saying it because it's like a normal statement. And now she's like, mommy, you had a wolf.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Wait, do you have a name? Obviously, you're not going to tell me, but have you guys talked about it?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
People did not like that you... Why are people so annoying?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Okay, let's talk about your marriage. Yes. You met Jason on Tinder. I did. Before you matched with him, were you like looking for a relationship? No.
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I would do that too. And half of the time, if I matched with someone, I'd be like, wait, you're better for him. Like, let's go. And like, you end up going with him.
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Stop. Half the time, also, I was doing it just for a social life. I'm like, let's see. Do they have parties? Like, let's go. Like, meet anyone you can in college and you're just trying to get, like, the hookups. I feel like you guys are, like, literally Tinder's biggest success story. Have they ever reached out to you?
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What was it about his profile that like stuck out to you?
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Obviously, I know you've said this before, but if my daddy gang doesn't know, can you talk about who sent the first message and what these messages were? So bad.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Wait, he didn't have a picture of him like in his jersey? No. Oh my God. I feel like all the douches on Raya that have their like fucking profile picture with them and like their Ravens jersey. It's like he didn't lead with that?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Okay, but that still is like a very big green flag. Because I do think it's like if you are a professional athlete and you're feeling like you have to lead with your uniform. Say less.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
No. Okay. What was your first impression when you met him in person for the first time? He was hammered. Like drunk drunk.
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You're like, actually, I love that kid. I condone that energy. I actually love that child. Obviously, your husband's retired now, but when he was playing, what was the energy like in your household on game day? Horrific. Okay, walk me through it.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Wait, why did he ever explain like why he was on Tinder? No. I think he was just messing around. He was just looking for... But I get what you're saying. People would assume he's a catfish because it's like, why is Jason Kelsey on Tinder? Yes.
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I love that for Jason. He's like, oh, yeah, thank you so much. Give me some hydration. Yes. Did you have any like hesitations about dating a professional athlete? I told no one.
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And that's fucking tough because you're – It, correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like when you're in that position, you can feel like because they are successful and you're someone in college, you're like, they do have the power almost. And there is a power.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
You're like, fuck, like I kind of don't want to get my heart broken here and I don't want to look like the idiot because people assume that women are flocking after these people and you just don't want to look dumb. Yes. And I feel like that is a natural feeling that's like hard to admit, but it's like the reality of the situation. Absolutely.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
When did you guys like tell each other you loved each other? Like who said it first?
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And then you're like, I can't keep saying I really like you at this point.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Correct. Okay. That's good to clarify. Um, once your friends found out you were dating him, like I had dated this professional athlete when I was in college and I remember he slept in my dorm room and it made it on Twitter and everyone was like, what the actual fuck is that guy?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
He just won a world series and he's leaving a sophomore's dorm room, which now is like controversial when I think about like the age gap, but that's another conversation for another time. But I remember people on campus being like, Cooper, what the fuck? Why is he in there? Like, Did girls start to be like, Kylie, what is happening?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
But I get it in that moment. Like, there's nothing worse than finally being open to your friends and honest. And then that moment, understandably, you're dating a public person. So anyone and everyone who has had any interaction or even seen him in a room before is going to be like, I know him. And you're going to be like, wait, what? And that must have been so jarring.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Did you ever have any like... Not trust issues with friends, but did you ever, once things got more serious, have people kind of you feeling like they were in it for the wrong intentions, whether it was like asking you for tickets or just like stuff like that?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Yes. I could see that. And I feel like, obviously, now you guys are even more public with, obviously, Travis and Taylor. So you guys are like, everyone is just like, what are you guys doing? And you're like, again, I'm coloring in my kitchen.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Exactly. How did your family react when they met Jason?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
You have, this is like, I'm not trying to gas you up, but you have the most gorgeous skin. That is very kind. No, because when I – okay, so we've met before. Yes. We met on the sidelines at the Eagles game. Was that two weeks ago? Two weeks ago.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Absolutely not. You see what I'm saying? Logically. I love the energy. You're like, if this is working, we're going to fucking keep with it. Wait, are you now still doing that, though, for the Eagles? Like, even now that he's not playing, are you still giving that energy? To some degree. Okay.
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He's like, you can't take Sunday night football from me, Kylie.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
And what was your dad – was your dad fangirling or was he like a hard ass?
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Yeah. What was your first impression of the Kelsey family? Delightful.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Oh, right. He plays football too. Oh, right. He was busy. Oh, right. He was just a little busy. Super casual. And then when did you meet him for the first time?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
I feel like I have the same thing with my husband where his family, they just call each other and they're like, what are you doing? And with my family, we all just, like, lightly tiptoe. And we want to like tiptoe. No, you're like bash the door open. What the fuck are you doing? And you're like, I have a problem with you. But it's so funny merging families.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
I agree because I love my mother-in-law so much. But if we are ever having just like, oh, she's being annoying. I'm like, well, Matt, you tell her. Like, I'm not going to call Lisa and be like, Lisa, you're annoying me. But like, I agree with my mom. I'm like, you need to seriously back up. So it's like you. Yes, I agree. Family to a point. And then you're like, but there's boundaries still.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Yes. What is Donna's best quality as a mother-in-law? What is Donna's best quality as a mother-in-law?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Is it weird that you're not going? Like, is it sad? No.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Kylie Kelsey, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you so much. How are you doing?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Yeah. Does he ever ask you for like sisterly advice? Like what role do you play to him? Yeah.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Who do you think would get more nervous before a game, you or him?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
How are they similar and how are they different? Because I feel like they seem similar.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Okay. Have you ever gone on a double date with Taylor and Travis?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Yeah. Okay, the world saw you and Taylor meet, obviously, for the first time at the Chiefs and Bills game. Yes. Was that the first time you had guys met? Yes. Yes. Really?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
I can imagine that's also annoying because you're like, it was also like probably like a lovely time to meet at like a football game. It was great. How did Travis tell you guys that he was dating Taylor Swift? I'm assuming like your family was like getting told this in some capacity at some point, right?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
I went to Avalon. Did you? And my best friend had a house in Seattle. Good vibes. And I would go to the boardwalk and I would put on my little jean miniskirt. I was like. And you were doing something. I was looking for something.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
It's like the Jersey Shore. Let's preface the Jersey Shore, but it's not the Jersey Shore.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Dude, I love Sea Isle. It's the best. I'm happy that you guys still have a house there. Oh, yeah. Never leave. Okay, you have three kids. You're pregnant, obviously, with your fourth. Yes. How have you been feeling overall in this pregnancy? Pregnant? Yeah. I get nauseous all the way through. It's been every single one. For all the men listening, this is very important.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
What are three things that a husband should absolutely do when his wife is pregnant? Just like give the men some tips. Like what do we need?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
I feel like for so long, like I don't have kids yet and I want kids. And as a woman, I feel like for so many years, years probably like decades like there was this one just misconception about like pregnancy for women is just like oh my god it's amazing and you see these ads and it smiles and it's rainbows and no one was really talking about like how fucking hard it is yes and i think
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And it's not meant to make people feel scared, but it's the reality. And I appreciate you bringing up postpartum because I think that was something that no one really talked about because there was this shame where women felt like, oh my God, is there something wrong with me that I'm not feeling great? I just gave birth.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
And I think your podcast and women talking about it, those are the conversations that are going to actually allow women to feel genuinely better about themselves because they know other women are going through it. And we're not all like siloed in different sectors being like, what's your experience like? And you're like whispering about it.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
They rub up against me. That's a good answer. OK, your podcast. Yes. First of all, not going to lie. Congratulations. It is. Thank you. So fucking refreshing and incredible to see a woman up on the charts doing her thing. How have you been feeling about it all?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
There is like a level of anxiety, I'm sure, for some women. I don't know if you had it in like even admitting that, even though it's probably the more common experience.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
No, and that is why I think people are loving you being so just honest about your experiences. And again, like I commend every woman out there that has had the best experience where they're like, my baby came out, it flew onto my chest and we've been happy ever since. Amazing. I love that. I love that for you. I hope that that's most people's experience. I agree.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
But I appreciate you being honest about it because it's like, It's not. Yeah. I think it's a lot more times your experience is more common and no one was talking about it. So when the first few women started admitting it, I know I've seen things online of people like back in the day being like, what is wrong with her? Like, is she depressed? Is she like, maybe, but I don't know.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
We're having fun. Love. Okay. Last two questions. What do you think is the biggest misconception about your family?
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Are you guys going to always, you think, stay in Philly area? Yes. Love. Yeah. I love that. Okay. Jason obviously is retired, but I feel like he's working more than ever and you just launched your podcast. What do you think this next chapter of your lives is going to be?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Because obviously I feel like when he was playing, you guys had probably this routine and now you've kind of like launched into this new era, I guess, of your life. Like what can we expect and what are you expecting?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Well, I am so happy we finally got to sit down. It was like, you are such a pleasure. Like you're so fucking normal and lovely to talk to. I literally feel like I'm like back in Philly in my basement talking to you and we're hanging out. We're about to like turn on the Eagles game and be like, woo, go Eagles. But thank you so much for taking the time because I know you're so busy.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
who you're intending um okay i'm gonna ask you some questions and you're gonna have to tell the truth because obviously you're not gonna lie okay let me dab my upper lips yeah dab the upper lip you don't look like you're sweating just that's really great because i'm pretty sure i have like ass like it's pulling at my ass that's the worst when you're wearing jeans and somehow you see the sweat through the jeans that's what's about to happen you have the asshole sweat i'm never gonna look don't worry i'll moon your camera before you leave
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
That was such an insane game. The snow, all of it. But I remember we met for the first time and that was my first impression of you. I was like, why is her skin so perfect? You are far too kind. Shout out. Far too kind. I'm so happy we're doing this. I think people are going to freak the fuck out that we're getting to sit down together. I hope so. I think so.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
I agree. Okay. What is the fastest way to piss you off?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
that's what i told him you have to visit me but you can move out like i'm prepared to take the hit do you realize because you know how you were like in high school yes and i know how i was like in high school yes and no matter what parameter you were at whether you were crazy or normal like girls in high school that shit is horrible i always say the only thing worse than high school girls is middle school girls period yes what is the craziest rumor you've ever heard about yourself oh
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Otherwise, I'm so sorry to call her daddy audience. The daddy gang's like, what the fuck? No, people are going to be excited. First of all, just to give context, we are sitting in these like horrid, amazing recliner chairs.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
I think that now what I appreciate is even like I was telling you before this, speaking to the WAGs yesterday, I appreciate how people are being more vocal about like what they do independently.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
And I think sometimes it can freak people out when it's like, wait, you're just, even if you are like holding down the household, it's like people don't understand that these women do have their own independent lives with their husband, obviously. And I think people like to just be like, no, your, your husband is just like an NFL player.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
So you just like are in it for the money or the fame or whatever. And it's like, no, these are like real humans with real lives and feelings and, and,
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
They would fit. Well, they fit in there. They would fit in.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
I love you. I love you. Okay. What is a weird item that is always in your bag?
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
It's so infuriating when boys are picking on you in middle school or high school and you're like, it's so. This is a you problem. Yes.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Oh, they're cozy. That's all he cares about. By the end, we could recline. Oh, perfect. Yeah, yeah. We can like get cozy.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
Oh, fuck. That was a good one. No, that was good. Okay. Wait. Yeah. So you grew up in Philadelphia. Yes.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
We're not allowed to do that. It's kind of like me and my husband. Matt will always be like, you have to act like you know. Oh, I can't do it. If you walk straight through, no one's going to ask you a question.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
I feel like you can just go in, but I never could.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
We're going to start professional and then we're going to kick it.
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Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG
But I got this set up for us and I was like, it's ugly, but it is indicative of where we are. We're in New Orleans. Super Bowl is tomorrow. I feel like you've probably been to a lot of Super Bowls, right? Yes. What is the most like favorite memory you have of a Super Bowl? Anything.
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He would like to say no, but he does. He's lying. Okay. Did you ever date in high school? No. No? No. No. When did you have your first kiss? Oh, God.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
You're like, this is how I know it's going to be good.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
We are going to get to know you guys better today. So Paris, how would you describe Nicole's personality?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
fucking lying no beautiful blonde baby girl yeah i am obsessed with my email name yes yeah that's one of them the other one's princess ph another one's barbie 420 so wait so you're emailing people it's like from beautiful blonde baby girl that is like you have to have some confidence Paris. Yes.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Baller and a girl and beautiful blonde. Jesus Christ. Back to Joel. So you meet him. When did you meet Joel? Like when did Paris get introduced?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
It was. What did you think of them together?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Yeah, love. Were you a fan of Good Charlotte? Yes.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
It is crazy. Like I have done the same thing where I've like lied about liking something for a guy. And I'm like, then you get yourself into it. And you're like, I didn't think it would go this far. And then you're like, they're going to think I'm a full liar if I admit to this. Cause like, I've been watching, like I'm on the seventh episode and I'm like, oh my God, he's so funny. Yeah.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
I didn't know he was going to say, do you want to watch it tomorrow? I was like, oh God. Okay. Great. See you there. Paris, have you ever lied to like something for a guy and then been like, why the fuck did I do that?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Are you a big sports person or not at all?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
um okay sorry back to my game um who is throwing the best party i don't really i don't throw parties i don't like people in my not like wild parties like you would throw parties i throw crazy parties i love you do the time i interviewed you were setting up for a christmas party oh my god that was almost a year ago how insane is that times went too fast you throw great parties you don't like people
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Because you just didn't want people around you in your house.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Dude, that's fucking insane. People, like, feel, and especially if people, like, get a drink in them, they feel like, I love this place. And they start, like, doing weird shit in your house.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Okay, now how would you describe Paris?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
I'm like, are you okay? You're like, I have children that live here. Oh, my God. No, no, no. That's not the vibe. Okay. Which one of you is more likely when you were younger to like pull through with plans for the night? You're like, I've got the spot. I know where we're going. It was like a schedule.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
yeah there was just all these clubs it was like a schedule just go like where all your friends went and that's what we would do would you guys go out every single night not saturdays and sundays those days are for losers what we saturday and i feel like saturday is like the night no that's loser bill what was the best night to go out thursday yeah Learning so much.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Nicole, what is your wildest interaction with paparazzi?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh my God. You were driving and someone crashed into you? Yes.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
When you look back at that, how do you feel about that time in your life?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
That's traumatizing. I know, obviously, like you've talked about it occasionally of like not occasionally a lot. Like you've been very outspoken in a good way of like this is really dangerous of like what those people were doing back in the day. And then it's kind of fucked up when people are like, yeah, but you guys were asking for it. Like you loved it. Like, what do you say to that?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
I don't say I'm like. If that's what you want to believe, do it.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
What is one of the crazier experiences you've had with paparazzi?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
No, that like creates like an intense form of paranoia. I'm sure like you can't you have to worry about what you put in your trash.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
And your gated community, when I tried to find your house, Paris, there's no cell service there. And I literally was like, hello. And then I'm like this freak driving down. There's like a man like walking down. I was like, I'm trying to go to Paris Hilton's house. He's like, we've got a freak on the loose. He probably was like breaking in. No, your house is, you are... You're good to go.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
You're safe. Okay, sorry to bring that down for a second, but it is interesting to hear about what you guys had to go through. Okay, I know this is vague, but if you can try to give the Daddy Gang a story, what do you think is one of the most iconic nights out that you guys had together when you look back and you're like, fuck, that was insane. The two of us went all out.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
It was so fun or something horrible happened or something disastrous or fun or funny, like anything.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
You would go in public with a snake around you? As a choker.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Wait, and no one stopped you? Stop me from what? Being gorged? Oh, my God. You never were like, oh, my God, my Python is about to fucking rip the necks of everyone around me.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
OK, so are you talking about Healy's, right? Or no, these are different. No, this is like pre Healy's. Yeah, you were whipping. Would you ever wear them to the club? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're in the club with Healy. Yes, yes, yes.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Dude, that's insane. I can't imagine wearing those to a club. We were professionals. Yeah, we were just really good at it. Did you ever get in trouble by your parents together? In Vegas when we were 11. In Vegas when you were 11.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
I'll never forget that yeah that was so fun so fun yeah I can't the fact that you guys like know we're 15 meanwhile that's like old in your mind you're 11 Paris is like no I think we were like 11 but we didn't do anything we weren't doing anything we were just out past curfew classic just like except you're on the Vegas strip Yeah.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
OK, let's go back to your childhood. You guys grew up in the same neighborhood. Is that correct?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Classic. Classic. Okay. I have to ask though, because you just mentioned your dad being like, you're never doing that again. Cut to the simple life. Why we're here, obviously, aside from like, I love you guys.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
um let's talk about the simple life we're getting an encore we're getting a three-part series we're getting what do we want to call it i call it a reunion special love yeah okay can we go back to the first original before we get to the reunion because obviously the original was so iconic paris can you talk to me about like how was the show originally pitched to you of like the simple life because it is so iconic and will be forever iconic they didn't tell me
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
And you guys went to the same school. Yep. What was your first impression of each other? Do you remember?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
We didn't know until we landed. Wait, so hold on. Producers pitch you this idea and you two do it together and you're both like, sounds good. And you get on a private plane.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
And you fly to what was the first place you went? Arkansas. Arkansas. Altus. Love. And you then just start filming.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Now, obviously, the premise is you guys like doing like jobs each episode and you're like doing a job. Had you guys ever had a real job prior to that?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
You were. Yeah. Love that for you. OK, you guys have a little song that you liked to sing throughout filming. Can you guys remind us of how it goes?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
I didn't know you guys knew each other since you were two. Yes. And so you guys were just inseparable since the moment you guys were getting raised together?
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
OK, I'm going to close my eyes. Come on, give me a little tune. Ready? OK.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
So you wrote this when you're seven.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
I mean, it's kind of like a work of art. It is.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Pay me, bitch. Pay me, bitch. Let me before I want to actually talk about this. You guys stopped talking at one point. I don't know if this is a sort of topic, but I have to ask about it. You guys were like not filming together in season four for The Simple Life, right? What the fuck happened? Be real with me. Don't give me a PR answer, you little shit.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Yeah. No, I can see that. Like you guys seeing things in tabloids and it like, obviously I feel like whenever there's a duo, people want to break a duo up and it's like pitting each other against each other. Like who's better at this and who's better at this. And it's like, does it make you sad when you look back that it like the media fucked with your guys' relationship that heavily? Yeah.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
Yeah. I mean, I think that's even applicable to like social media. Like I bet people see in college or high school or whatever. You're like, oh, my God, this friend went to this party and I didn't get invited. And everything can be misconstrued because we're posting like everything.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
half versions of what's going on and you can feel so upset and frustrated if you're not included in something or you hear a rumor from someone and it's like half of it is usually never true who reached out first to clear the air how did you guys like come back together
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Obviously, he's obsessed with you guys. And he's actually in the encore. Nicole, what do you think your reputation was in your town and at school growing up?
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Yeah. it was like bigger than you guys were like, wait, we're back as friends and people like me still asking you about it to this day. Because again, I think the media makes it like they had the biggest falling out and you guys, yeah, we got like in a fight. And then as friends, we got back together. Like me, my best friend will fight and be like, okay, what time are we getting dinner?
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Okay. That makes sense. Um, okay. So you guys are back. Tell me everything. How did you guys decide to do this three part series? Like, tell me everything.
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OK, what do you think your reputation was? Just like sweet. Yeah. Yeah.
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well i think like that's why we're all so excited is it's like to see you guys back on camera together and even though it's just like a three-part series that's like more than we could have ever asked for because i think people never thought we were going to get that again so thank you guys for doing that for all of us um we and you for the first episode you fly back to arkansas yes can i say on sliving air is that a thing slither slither yeah
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You have a hard out. Yeah. When are you leaving? At three. Okay. So we have about, uh, 12 minutes to go. Here we go. We're going to rent. I'm just kidding. Everyone listening. Calm down. Sit down. Um, okay. By the time this comes out, Thanksgiving will be over. What are you guys doing for the holidays? Christmas, new year's. What are your plans? What are we doing?
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I asked everyone, is it pink or no?
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I'm obsessed. What do you think the Simple Life legacy is going to be?
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wrapping up because i know you have to fucking go you're like 12 minutes are up um can you talk to me a little bit though about like how your guys friendship has evolved over time because obviously you guys saying like you met at two years old you were friends all through basically like your whole life on and off in moments obviously as friends do now doing this again together like you're both moms um how has your relationship evolved
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No, I'm so happy that I got to sit down with you guys. We love you. Love you.
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What do you think the parents in your town thought of you? Of, like, all the kids in high school? Were you, like, when you were younger? Or even in middle school? What were people thinking?
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That's so nice to have a friend like that where you're like, it's both of us or none of us.
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Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Nicole Richie and Paris Hilton, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thanks, bitch. Thank you. I am so happy we're finally doing this again. Okay, how are you guys doing today?
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Who the fuck is going to Vegas at 14?
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You too. We were. Wait, what were you doing in Vegas?
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And when did you kiss these, I'm assuming, men, boys? They were in high school, like 10th grade. How did you meet them in Vegas from our school? At the chinchilla farm? No, I don't think they came with us to go get the chinchillas. So you had your second kiss in Vegas?
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And was that Bert and, what was his name, John?
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Okay, who had the stricter parents growing up? I know you're saying they're both strict, but who was really hard to go to whose house? You know you're not sneaking out if you go to X's house.
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the way this is like so casually you realize that childhood is like you guys have like the craziest coolest childhood right we lived a normal childhood too like yeah as you're saying second kiss in Vegas no but I think smuggling ferrets okay I'm gonna play a game with you guys because I think this is gonna like really we're gonna get to know you a lot here ready okay who had the better 2000s wardrobe
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Love. Yeah. I think you said that to me last time. You love that fucking dress. I love it. Where is that dress? In my closet. Love. How honest were you guys when you were younger with each other when like they had a horrible outfit on?
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But I do love to shop. Okay, who has the worst dating history?
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Does that feel right? Yeah. Who was more delusional over guys when you guys were younger?
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to myself um playa 2245 what was his handle to playa playa for life
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What do you do when you see that online?
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Are you a confrontational person where you would be like calling them or you're over?
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I feel like, Nicole, you're confrontational. No?
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It is fun when you look back and you're not like in the moment. It's fun to look back at the heartbreak.
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play up for life ruin my life for life yeah um who was the bigger flirt back then you yeah yeah love I would flirt but it was more to like humiliate them like more than like an aggressive not in like a like sweet yeah I wasn't you're gonna ruin your life and then some um when the two of you guys would be out like would you be the person that would go up to the guys like if you're at a club you guys want to like infiltrate a table are you going up
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Have fun. And then the guys would come and you're like, oh, this is nice. Like, this is a fun little thing.
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Did you guys ever fall for the same person or like the same person ever? We had opposite taste. OK, tell me what what was your type back then? People who cheat, I guess.
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Didn't you say once in The Simple Life that you liked men to look like they were dying? Yes, yes, I did say that. If I saw a bunch of people that you talked to when you were younger, was there a theme of them actually looking skinny and frail and ill?
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I'm obsessed with you. So you weren't going for like a specific looks wise type? No. Whose husband is more likely to crash a girl's night out? Do you guys ever go out together? Crash a girl's night out.
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Carter never goes out. So neither of them are coming.
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Wait, how did you meet Joel? A friend set us up. Yeah. Wait, had you ever like dabbled with musicians at that point?
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You are actually entering the Mile High Club, and I will be cheering you on. All of a sudden, our friend we run into at the airport, shout out Aubrey. Aubrey walks into the airport and we're like, Aubrey, what are you doing here? I've got a flight at 11 o'clock at night. Aubrey, we found- My husband. Lauren's husband. She goes, where is he? I want to get a glimpse of him.
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Because I say, this is one of the most gorgeous men you've ever seen in your life, okay? We go, he's got a Texas hat on, a Michigan shirt on. Go find him. He's in the back corner.
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She giddily saunters off. And all of a sudden she comes back and the face of happiness and excitement that she left with. She returns looking like she just saw a dead body. And I'm like. Aubrey, what's wrong? Lauren's like, did you see him? And Aubrey goes, I have really, really, really upsetting news for you both. And we're both like, what? Do you want to say it or should I say it?
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Ooh, I'm not really one for intentions, but what I will say is this. I really don't like New Year's Eve. I really don't like New Year's Eve. Like I am someone from, I think like even high school, I always hated New Year's Eve parties. It always freaked me out. I was always terrified people would be drinking and driving. If I went to a party, I was terrified to get on the roads.
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Or was it just like him being a nice person because you wanted information on the flight? I don't know. Maybe we're also like dick drunk or we're just like wanting to find you anything that we're literally... We said, what's the proof? We needed proof. So we said, Aubrey, how do you know he's gay, sweetie? He's watching fucking football over there. He's got a Texas hat and a Michigan sweatshirt.
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That doesn't scream gay to me. Come on. He's like... Yeah, come on. She goes, girls, I stood behind him as he was watching the game and he was scrolling and scrolling and scrolling naked men on Instagram and zooming in to their pectoral muscles and their V lines. And Lauren and I are dead silent, you guys. And we go.
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well maybe maybe he's a casting agent maybe he's a talent maybe he's a talent model scout like we don't know and Aubrey looks at us like you dumb fucks you dumb fuck shut the fuck and we're literally like there's no fucking way but everything that had like been built up into this moment you guys we couldn't accept that he was gay so we sent you in so I sent myself in and I'm like I need to see it for my own fucking eyes like I couldn't I at that point literally thought Aubrey was fucking with us
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So I go to find him, and I can't find him. And I'm like, fuck it. I need to go pee. Let's go pee. I walk to the bathroom. He had changed locations. And you guys, I see it for myself. I walk over, and this man is still scrolling, scrolling. Gorgeous men. Hot, sexy, chiseled. They look so fucking hot. But they're men. You know what I mean? And Lauren has a vagina. And it just wasn't going to work.
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So I come back to Lauren. I go... yeah he's gay lauren's like i'm i put on makeup for nothing so then lauren all of a sudden guys we're sitting at the bar i'm to her right there's a man to her left lauren literally goes hey hi every fucking man oh but then you know what aubrey leans in
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But then Lauren was like, fuck, fuck. What the fuck? My gaydar. And then there was another man that came over that like there was a there was a lot going on and we got a little we were a little upset for you.
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We didn't feel confident whatsoever, but we had a lot of fun doing it. And this is what I will say.
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it was so fun partaking in, although it was a fucking disaster first advice to anyone in a relationship or married or engaged, whatever the fuck, like be a fucking homie to your girlfriends and put your neck out for them and put yourself physically in moments where you are stopping men in their tracks for your fucking friend.
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Because what's so fucking great about, I'm realizing with the wing woman situation is like, It makes you look like the chill, mysterious one. If I'm the fucking annoying freak being like, hey, what time did they say we can go to the lounge? And then you're like, sorry, what did you say? It's such a good layup. Be the fucking wing woman that your friend deserves.
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And for you, Lauren, you got to keep on the fucking horse, bitch. You're fucking cruising.
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Where do we catch? We found him at catch. Oh my God. We went to catch that night, literally hunting for Dick. We literally went to catch to find you a man. And we got so intoxicated. We both brought him back home.
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And just mind you, I was acting like it was a guest bedroom. His roommate was fully another player on the team and you guys fucked in his teammates bed. And at the time I thought that the boyfriend Slim Shady was cheating on me, which ends up he was. So I don't feel bad. But I in the moment, like looking back, you guys fucked on Rob's bed and then come the morning I wake up and I'm like.
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Cause to be fair, it was like 10 AM and he was like still lingering.
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Like the fact that this man is in our home, basically, and you're leaving this man a note to be like, please let yourself out. Lauren is then comes back in bed and we lock the door. We are in my ex-boyfriend's apartment. Who is an MLB player.
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You guys for four, three years later, three years later, this man DMs me a picture and he goes one of the greatest night mornings.
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Mornings of my life. I wake up after having great sex and I walk around and And I just am literally realizing that I'm in a Mets pitchers fucking apartment. But then I remember laying there with you and we're so hung over and I'm like, there's no way he's going to steal anything. Right, Lauren? But we were so far gone that we had been like, you left a note. We were being so fucking freaks. Yeah.
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And then I remember we heard the front door slam and we walked around. I'm like, honestly, I don't give a fuck if you stole anything. Honestly, take it with you.
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Oh, he was fucking livid. And I was like, yeah, but what pussy were you in this week? Okay. Lauren fucks in his bed. You were in a different girl. And I'm the one that just gets fucked. Everyone got fucked but Alex. So that was, yeah, I was a pretty good wing woman that night. I take pride in being a good wing woman. And I'm very, very excited for this new venture for you.
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And I'm very happy that you're enjoying the single life because I think that you sometimes understandably – When you're single and a lot of your friends are in relationships, I feel like almost all your friends are in relationships, right?
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I was also always feeling like not happy if I was hung over in the morning and I just never ever Of course, I've had nice New Years, but I feel like I'm really, really entering my get fucked up on a couple martinis at home and put my feet up in relax mode. It's about the company, not the plans. Lauren, a cheery old Santa over here.
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I think that can be hard where you're like not looking forward to being single only because you're like, fuck, I don't have that many single friends. And I feel like you are having a lot of fun with it and you're being really open to going and meeting a lot of different people.
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I feel like there's only a certain amount of years you can play the game until it actually gets boring.
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Well, again, because when you're younger in your 20s, like who the fuck wants to get married and settle down? Some people, but not me at that point. I was like, I want to feel the thrill. I want to be getting my head bashed in the mattress. I want to be getting flipped upside down. And then I want to be getting ghosted the next day.
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I want to have my heart ripped out of my chest and I want to do it all over again. And then some. And then when you get a little older, you're kind of like. I literally don't have time. No taxes. I have a life. I have a family. I have fucking trips. I have work. I have a bunch of fucking shit.
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And all my friends are finding their person like I want to be intentional about how like intentional about what I'm doing and where I'm like if I'm going to leave my house and like put on makeup and like.
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Wait, sorry. I was just swallowing. Did you just say you went on a date that lasted eight hours? Yeah. Lauren, what does that even mean? What time did you start the date?
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What time did you get home? 2 a.m. You're disturbing me right now. Are you getting married? No. Did you ever, did you want to see the man again? I don't know. Wait. Only Lauren being like, I spent eight hours with a man and I don't even know if I want to see him again. I thought you were about to tell me that you literally are in love with someone. You spent eight hours with a man.
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I get what you're saying. Sometimes I do that with interviewing where I'll be talking to someone and like the beginning is like light work. You're like, ooh, you're a little nervous. Let me throw you some softballs. But by the end, once you're jiving, you could ride off into the sunset. Okay, wait, hold on. Is this the plant man? No, I can't. Can we just quickly tell that story? Okay, okay.
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I feel like we've spent, I think you're the friend that I've spent the most New Year's with, right?
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it's so good Lauren it's so good this man's gonna love this you think Lauren he's gonna love it and it's not even like offensive it's hilarious so what and tell me correct me if I'm wrong okay Lauren says she's in this man's apartment they're having a nightcap a nightcap you've been on seven dates at this point in one night and Lauren sits down and how does he ask for your foot
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Wait, does he just take your foot? Yeah, he just grabs it. He grabs her feet to which she's like this. And Lauren in her head was like, please, for the love of God, no, no, no. I hope he doesn't have a foot fetish. Please don't have a foot fetish. Please don't have a foot fetish. He takes off her sock, takes off the other sock. Thank God I had a pedicure. And he starts massaging her feet.
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Honestly, that is like a dream. If a man's going to massage, I get it. On a first date, it's a little much. But a man that's willing to give acts of service.
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She's living. So then the next morning you wake up because you don't sleep there. I leave. You don't hook up like more than a make out. No. You get home and then, and then, and then she wakes up in the morning and he shows up to your apartment with like 45 plants.
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He doesn't live in Chicago anymore. Here's the thing. Diamonds, plants, it's all in the same realm, okay? If you can get something from a first date, you're winning. You got a foot massage and a plant. Oh, he brought me cheese knives too. So he just gave you all the shit that he was getting rid of. Here's the thing. I'm really proud of you. I feel like you're having good experiences.
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To be fair, I feel like back in the day hours is fair. Three hours is a long fucking timeline. But here's the thing. I do think when you're single, there's also something to be said about like on a Wednesday night, on a Thursday night, if you didn't have plans with your girlfriends, like. Yeah, I guess you could be home, like, reading ACOTAR, but, like... I finished it. Oh, well, then, exactly.
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So, like, what the fuck else are you doing? We read our fucking series. You're done binging our shows.
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But the point is, is you, I feel like... I feel like you are someone that, like, you like to hang out with people.
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Period. Okay, Lauren. Yeah. This is my advice to you. Number one, if you're going on a weekday date, do you do those often?
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Okay. So I feel like if you're doing either a Sunday or you're doing a weekday thing, I think that because I was going to say go for drinks, but like make them fucking pay for a good dinner. Like get yourself a good steak and fill up. You know what I mean? So I think because I get it when people like just go for drinks. It's easier to get out of.
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Exactly. So I think I already know you and I was the same like go for the fucking dinner. Yeah. I do think you can always say like I have an early morning tomorrow and I know that's not that fun but you're still gonna like have a drink and you're gonna hang.
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I do think you just have to almost cut yourself though because what I also recognize is first dates are so fun but you don't want to blow your fucking load in the first date where like you almost are kind of like I don't really need anything more. We kind of talk about everything. Like what else is there to do? Almost.
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I've had those dates where I'm like, that was so fun, but I almost don't need to like see this person again because I don't see a future with them. And I kind of know everything about them now. Like it's over. I think you want to still feel like you have more questions about someone. So I would say you just have to eat at the normal fucking pace.
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And by the third fucking course, Lauren, get the fucking check and go home. But you're going for nightcaps.
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No. Okay. What's the other problem you're going with?
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literally my uber was there and i literally just like turn around and i just get in the uber i don't say anything i just turn around you just speed away yeah yeah yeah okay no no this is what i think you need to do which i actually completely agree first dates when you're vibing with someone also like i like a first date make out because i like to be like maybe if the conversation was like average or mid
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the make out if it's so good it makes you be like maybe i'll go on a second date with you you know what i mean like that's an added point like are you sexually attracted to the person yeah so i'm all for a little make out on the first date but if you don't want to do the make out i think well i've been initiating all of these and they've been like what are you doing but lauren i think you need to when you go to hug them goodbye you need to hug i can't believe we're doing this hug and then it's a it's it's pug no
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yeah it's a one two whatever the fuck hug grab their butt and then grab the ass and kind of finger the dingleberries and kind of pinch his asshole hair no no you hug and the minute you're done with the hug you kind of really you you turn your head away from them and you kind of pull back you're probably kind of doing a linger Okay, ready?
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Lauren, you're literally in my nostril hair. You literally are. No, Lauren. Okay, wait, I have a solution. You have to go like this. You go like this? And then you go like that. Have you ever hugged an uncle?
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And like the front end is fine. Like 45, divorce. If anything, we're kind of like loving that for you.
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never on the goodbye okay that's this is this is good confirmation so here's the thing though i'm gonna rebuttal a tiny bit okay the goodbye if it's the literal goodbye when you are like uber's ready i go and you're like hands on the fucking taxi cab or uber you're like i guess i'm going now and he's like bye yeah get in the fucking car okay you're trying to like elongate to a four hour situation like just one more nightcap i don't want to go home just yet but i think
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For example, after dinner, Matt and I on our first date, it was a back alley make out. How I knew it was going to be a back alley make out is there was a lot of sexual tension throughout the dinner.
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And you're having fun. You're a sexual being. You're seeing if you can... Maybe I'm too, like, pent up.
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you're kind of like you're kind of looking at them like legs open like this man is like we literally fought at dinner and our views are completely different we literally talked about like politics and like your job and like there was nothing sexual going on lauren i'm not doing that no no listen i think it's so fucking attractive when the woman makes the first move however
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No, he did. There was a wolf that walked into Matt's home and we all kind of did. I'm not sure. I wonder if I have a fucking video. You do.
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You know, we don't want you to get a reputation around Chicago. They're like, yeah, this fucking I need to clean up my act. You got to get it together. No, have fucking fun. But no, I think if it's at the end of the night, there's something really steamy and hot about this built.
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But to be fair, on my first date with Matt, he literally reached across the table at one point and held my hand and he was like, can I kiss you yet? So we had been talking. I know, that was like fucking hot. I literally was like, no.
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He's like touching me. He's like, hold my hand. He was like, can I kiss you yet? I said, no. So I knew we were going to kiss. If this man...
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is given it is a job interview through and through and he's trying to network baby and this is giving more linkedin yeah i think you don't give them the don't plant one on don't plant one unless you're in the mood and you're horny that night you know what bring him fucking back rarely are men gonna be like no no no i don't want to see you and your vibrator tonight in your bed like all right like i think you got to decide what you want to do i'm so excited that you're thriving and you're single honestly you're gonna find your guy
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And this is the first time that Matt tried to set single Lauren up. And I remember Lauren's like eating her buffalo chicken dip and she turns to me and she was like, we need to have a conversation after this. And I was like, no, I'm so sorry. She goes, no, no, no. It's Matt. What does Matt think of me that I should be marrying or even fucking even dating a wolf man? It was like pretty fucking bad.
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No, we can't. We can't. Okay. We're both not going natural. No. Fuck that shit. No.
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Summer going into freshman year of high school. And I will never fucking go back, bitch. And you will never see with my natural hair unless there's a gun to my fucking head. And even when I'm fucking pregnant one day, wigs up in this bitch.
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take a drink if you would get a dog in the new year oh my god Matt literally will kill me I make jokes to Matt being like I can see you getting a third do we want a third and he's like you are mentally unstable if you think we need a third Matt's like give me a fucking baby before another fucking dog fair I don't think we need another third dog
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everything in my body our our best friend Kristen goes on solo trips all the time she just got back from an 11 day in Nicaragua and I literally looked at her and I'm like you are everything I want to be Kristen but there isn't a bone in my body that could get myself on a plane and go somewhere and not think that there is a man gonna come through that door to kill and harm me like I can't go on a solo trip I'm too scared
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Yeah. Like you're going to go, maybe you'll go on a solo, but like I'm going to have someone trailing you. I'm going to get you a security guard or something. I'm just so, it sucks being a fucking woman.
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yeah like it fucking sucks that we have to think about that shit like i remember at one point i said to a guy at one point like i could never go on a solo trip and they were like why and i was like why do you think you're like i literally don't know and i'm like oh okay that's the difference between men man and woman Continue.
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Oh, I think that's like a fucking blazing red flag. Lauren, that's not pink. You... Not like for anyone, but like for me personally. No, no, no. If you're getting a tattoo, I know...
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This is why I know I should never get a tattoo is because, like, literally if there was a gun to my head, I'm telling you, I have nothing. I have nothing I would want to permanently put on my body. I have nothing. Nothing.
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Look at pics and pray to him. RIP, Papa. Love you, Rob. Yeah, no, I don't think we're tattoo girls.
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OK, I feel like I've set a lot of my friends up for good like fucks. I don't know if any of my friends are currently dating. Like I feel like in high school and college, I was always setting people up.
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I've seen some eyebrows go a little skew. Oh, I've had it. Trust me. Go back to my Forbes conference. I wanted to fucking end it all. I think that you should absolutely when you feel ready, get Botox in your forehead. It literally makes your skin look so nice. Also, there is a trend right now and I am I am so interested. I know the certain celebrities that have done it.
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there is a trend right now of the lower facelift that everyone is getting what is that it's like you just you're not old enough to get the full facelift so all these celebrities are getting these lower facelifts that it just pulls it basically from a little lower than like right where your nose kind of is ending and they just pull everything up so whenever you see these people on the red carpet and it's like their jaw looks so fucking snatched one i've heard that they're getting these things injected to give them a nicer jawline it's like literally a fake implant thing
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Of a jaw Like filler or like An actual fake thing apparently Oh And then on top of that They're snatching it With a facelift So I'm not getting one But like When do we get facelifts At like 50 60 Oh sooner Sooner Okay so We'll go together Matt will drop us off When we're like
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Happy New Year. Daddy gang, welcome back to another episode of Call Her Daddy. If you are listening to this while you are getting fucked by your ex-boyfriend, Jan 1, I am here to let you know that I am here with my best friend, Laryn. Hi, daddy gang. We are ringing in the new year together. We are currently in... Utah. We are skiing. We're being little ski bunnies.
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No, it'll be perfect. We'll all get facelifts together. Matt's like, I don't want one. I'm like, you're getting one. Okay, so yes, Botox in the future, obviously. Tomorrow, please.
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I don't want to shit my pants. I already do it enough. I don't want to shit and throw up. And you know me with drugs. Yeah. I'm not a drug girl. I think I could handle it. You could handle it. You and Kristen could do ayahuasca together.
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Like, I know this is like lame to say, but like, I'm just not that type of person. Like if I have a problem, I literally just like, I address it head on quickly and I keep it moving. Like, I don't feel like I'm someone that's like the nature and the sand and I need to put my feet in the ground and hit the sand. Like, I don't know. I feel like I'm every week. Would you like talk to Nana maybe? Yeah.
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No, I don't give a shit about my grandma. I love her, but I wouldn't be like, Nana. No, I give a shit about her, but not in that way. I wouldn't be like, Nana. My Nana died. I had a great life with her. She was awesome. I loved her, but I don't need to talk to her. I guess I would like to know if she's, like, sitting in mercury.
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We always wondered if she was, like, bad behaved that she never got straight up to heaven.
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Purgatory. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm not even drinking. No. I always wondered, like, is Nana. Did Nana make it out? Nana's definitely in heaven at this point. she went through some trauma. I have no interest in talking to my grandmother. I mean, it wouldn't be bad, but like, I just don't think I'd be like, I need to go through drugs to do that. You know what I mean?
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No, because I also think like it's so hard that like I don't live in the same city as a lot of my friends. Yeah. So I'm like networking. I literally told you move back to L.A., bitch. I have so many fucking suitors for you.
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So I think for me, no ayahuasca. I don't think I need that. What, what do you, who would you connect with your dad? Like not to be the dead dad girl, but like, I know, but would you want to, I don't know.
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You're like, I kind of want to keep it where I kept it. Yeah. I feel like we're not going on that journey.
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But if you do, come and sit down and talk to us about it.
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No, Nana's definitely not haunting me. But now that I think about it, who is dead and haunting me? I guess no one. So I guess, oh, confront the demons.
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oh my god you know happy new year everyone this is not the episode to talk about that no i've got some demons but like i don't want to face you want to keep them locked up today yeah pent that shit up okay lock it away demons are staying locked up for the year 2025 yeah we'll connect back maybe in 2026 let that shit that's the year of confronting demons love love love um is that it yeah do you have a new year's resolution
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what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy it's so good wait let me try how good is that Oh, that's fucking insane. I've never had strawberry with tequila.
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I have no New Year's resolutions. I will be honest. I have so many fucking goals that I am setting for myself with regard to work and career. And I feel like I've never felt more motivated and excited for this year. I feel like there's been so many changes that are coming in a fabulous way.
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So I'm going to roll out a bunch of new stuff with Sirius XM that's going to give the Daddy Gang more content, which is very exciting. And I know I've been saying that for a while, guys, but it's coming. It's just basically it's starting in February, essentially.
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So I haven't been able to talk about it because you guys know I love a good little tease and I love a good little promotion that I love a good little drop to get your panties fucking wet. So I have a lot of things I'm excited to give to the Daddy Gang because it's They have been so supportive of me and this show and I wouldn't be here without them.
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So I think 2025 is going to be the year of doing everything for the Daddy Gang and connecting with as many people as I humanly possibly can. And that's literally why I'm coming out with this drink. Like when I think of the unwell lifestyle, I totally see people online being like, I don't want to be unwell in my 30s. And I'm like, me either. Me either at all.
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But unfortunately, like life isn't fucking perfect. We're all fucking exhausted, whether it's from work or you're drinking or you're sober or you're
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your life is fucked or you're exhausted from work or it's just like children single dating kissing random men like Lauren like we're all a little fucking unwell and I think this drink was just like another extension of what the daddy gang and I have built is this community and now to be able to like
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physically hold something that can help people when they're feeling shitty I'm like that's pretty fucking cool and I never knew what the first thing that I would come out with would be um and now this feels so natural to me having been an athlete my whole life hydration has been in my life my whole life but I also am not a fucking athlete anymore and I sit on my fucking ass more than I work out and I want something that doesn't make me feel like shit if I didn't hit the gym that day or
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Oh, literally the fact that you were in between a billionaire and like a hot man from Miami and you ditched them both.
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You can have it in the gym. So it's available, guys, now in Target if you want to go buy it and try it. It's so yummy. Lauren, what did you say about it when you tried the cocktail version?
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this i just poured tequila and the strawberry and it blends so well and lauren goes alex this is gonna be the cocktail at my wedding oh yeah yeah yeah i'm gonna sponsor your wedding no hydration sponsoring my wedding i will stock you up but no i'm really excited and yeah i think 2025 is gonna be a great year how do you feel about 2025 i i
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That's my... I love that for you. That's my... I love that for you so much. I also think personal wise for 2025, like I feel like Matt and I are in such a good place and we always joke like we, you know, like we love working.
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Okay, so first of all, Daddy Gang, I saw a couple comments of like, wait, Lauren is single. Yes, Lauren is single now. She's entering the new year, a single woman. Daddy Gang, do you want to wing woman me?
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We are so passionate about what we do, but I feel like we did a really good job in 2024, like being so intentional about the time that we spent together and that had nothing to do with work.
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so I think I want to take into 2025 what we kind of like laid the groundwork of 2024 like we can love working we can be passionate but what really also matters to me is my relationship with my husband and I think I want to continue to be so intentional about the moments where we are offline and quiet and go and have good sex at a resort and enjoy our time together and
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yeah i'm really excited i'm excited for two so lauren and i are about to go to a bar um that's why lauren was pre-gaming i was like taking a break because my fucking throat was hurting but now i'm gonna start ramping it up let's have a little fucking tequila and unwell hydration and i really hope daddy gang that you listen
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If you were someone that was at home by yourself on New Year's Eve, I have been there. I have cried in my bed and been like, this is the worst fucking New Year's Eve of my life. And a lot of times I feel like those nights are what leads you to the best fucking year yet. Because there's nowhere to go but up. And I know it sounds depressing, but like I have fucking...
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been there through the trenches sobbing laying in my fucking childhood bed being like I'm a loser I don't know what the fuck I'm doing next and it's only up from there so if you're at a low right now trust me when I say bitch this is your fucking year let's get it if you were someone that had the best fucking time I'm so happy for you that you have people around you that you're able to just enjoy your life with these people and keep investing in your friends don't center a man or whatever to your life like
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Make sure you're giving all of the energy to all of your relationships. I feel like that's another thing in 2025, like, we've been so good about.
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And Lauren and I are going to go eat some burgers and get a little tipsy-wipsy, so... We're at altitude baby. Oh yeah. I love you all. This is about to be the best fucking year yet bitches. I will see you fuckers next Wednesday. Goodbye.
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You're not at a shortage of men, Lauren. Like here's the thing. Lauren was like, you know, upset about her breakup. And then she finally decided like it's time to get after it. And I remember you.
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Yes. But even prior to New York City, you have been having, even if it's not success, like I'm so proud of you. You have been really putting yourself out there.
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You're on the apps. You're going on dates. You told me you went on a coffee date. You went on a cocktail date. You went on a dinner date that lasted like two and a half hours. Yeah, we'll get there. You have a man that gave you all these plants. That's a long story. You have a man that gave you a foot massage. Like you're making headway, Lauren, in your single life.
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But we were in New York City a couple of weeks ago. And I think I posted this on my TikTok. But Hallie was hooking up with this billionaire. And Hallie was worried that the billionaire was just too nice for her. A classic. I honestly can't relate. I like nice guys. Yeah. Yeah. No, Lauren likes people to treat her well. And so Hallie was like, sweetie, you just take him.
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So it is the end of the night. We are all at this bar and Lauren is in between the billionaire. And now, if anything, it looked like you were favoring the man that wasn't even the fucking billionaire.
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I love you say smoozing. It's schmoozing. It's the best fucking statement ever. So Lauren is like hanging out schmoozing with all these people. Everyone leaves the bar because I'm like, I'm going home to my husband. Everyone's going to bed.
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And I literally woke up in the morning and I FaceTimed Lauren and I'm like... Which one did you go home with? And what do you say to me, Lauren?
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Like in your drunken state, you cock block yourself and you chose your friends over men, which says a lot about you, which I love you because you are such a girl's girl. However, like you got to choose yourself in those moments. She was putting in hours of work with these people anyways. So she ends up not hooking up with anyone. I strike out. And we're like, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine.
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So now all of a sudden we're kind of on this hunt and I don't know if anyone is doing this, but first of all, if you're in a fucking relationship and your friend is single, you're
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mindset every coffee shop you work walk into every single work event you walk into every single room you walk into is an opportunity to find a man for your friend okay I have you like dialed up differently like now I've never heard you comment on men as much as you are now you're like oh my god Lauren like did you see him like Lauren like that guy's like look at that guy speaking of let us tell you the story of what recently just happened
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We get on the plane. OK, we're leaving New York City. We are like ravenous for a man for you. OK, I am like I will find her dick. So we sit down, you guys. And Lauren and I are sitting next to each other. And I see the airplane on the airplane. And I see this guy that is in the last row in first class. And he has this like Michigan T-shirt on. He has kind of hair like mats.
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It's like rustled and hot. And it's like, oh, like I'm like, this man is a vision. OK, I turn to Lauren. I grab her wrist and I say, Lauren, back right corner prospect. She fakes gets up. She looks up in her bin cabin. She's rustling through her fucking luggage. She sits down. She goes, he's the most gorgeous man I've ever fucking laid eyes on. How do we fucking get me in and around that asshole?
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I'm really proud because you and I have the same level of like ski ability.
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Flight attendant comes over to hand us our Bloody Marys. We said, get in here. He was a gay ally. OK, he turned to me. He said, bitches, what do you need from me? I said, you need to go back right left corner, back right left. Hello. You need to go back corner right side and you need to find out if this man has a ring on.
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He goes, he walks back the flight attendant, such a fucking home. He goes, girls, there's no motherfucking ring. Lauren and I are like, boom, boom, boom. Okay. We're in now. Here's the thing about being on a flight and seeing a hot guy. That is to me, like one of the coolest fucking opportunities of how you could meet your potential husband.
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you started planning the speech you were about to give at my wedding if like you orchestrated this and like we thought I was gonna marry this guy because we we started to get so excited because we're like this is so cool like and I want to validate every single person I hate when people preface it being like oh how did you guys meet and they're like we met on a dating app or like we met on Instagram I know so embarrassing it is not embarrassing that is literally the most common way to meet people now so first of all it's not embarrassing and
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However, there is something obviously in you that's like how fucking cool to meet someone out in the wild. Like that's fucking ideal and cool.
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So we're starting to picture this and I'm like, you meet your husband on a plane. You guys hit it off. You then all of a sudden get like this is this is magic.
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So we start strategizing, Daddy Gang. And I suggest you guys do this if you see a fucking hot person on a plane. I get it's also easier when you have a friend with you. If you're solo, it's a little intimidating. Yeah. Lauren and I decide you need to write your name and your number on a napkin. And we're going to have the flight attendant bring the napkin over to the guy.
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We're kind of on the same exact page. We're like, I want to do a blue. I want to feel the wind in my hair. I want to have a two-hour apres lunch. Absolutely. But I don't want a black diamond in it.
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We decided we were going to do it like with an hour left in the flight because this flight was like five fucking hours. And then we start stressing out because you were like, Alex, Alex. I don't look the part.
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We look fucked up. And so we just kept Harold the dog going. And Lauren goes one minute. gets up into the cabin, gets her makeup down. I need to post the fucking videos that we took. I'm like giving myself like a full beat, like on the plane. So Lauren starts contouring and she's contouring it up and she's looking so gorgeous. And I'm looking at the highlight.
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No, no, you looked gorgeous. Okay. And she's highlighting it all of a sudden on the loudspeaker. We hear, thank God we didn't take like a sleeping pill over the loudspeaker. We hear everybody. We're
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We're deboarding to get back on board, okay? This man is in the Delta One pods, which means he will be going to the Delta One lounge. We're going to go to the lounge. So we'll be able to almost like congregate with him and we can follow him. So everyone gets up. We get all of our stuff.
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Lauren's finishing her lip liner and we beeline it to try to stay as close as humanly possible to this man as everyone is deboarding the We have a tail on him. We got off the plane and he stopped at the desk to ask the agents if he goes back to the lounge, will they be able to give updates to the lounge? And something just came over me where I was like... I'm now seeing this man in his height.
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He was giving athlete dick. I was in it for Lauren. So I... shove my way forward without even like thinking what i was gonna do and i put my body right up behind him so when he turns around from the desk talking to the woman at the kiosk i will be right dead center there almost to the point where he makes physical contact with me
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He turns around and almost bumps into me and I go, oh, hey, what did what did they say? And he looks at me and he goes, oh, if you're in and no, this was when we knew he eyed us because he was like, oh, us. If you're in Delta Lounge, we can all go back to the lounge. And I was like, oh, really? They said that. And he goes, yes, we can go. I said, amazing.
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lauren then just wanting to make any contact comes in she goes sorry what did they say i'm like bitch you're standing right next to me you just heard what he fucking said but she wanted to make contact with him she's like i wanted him to hear my voice feel my presence he said the same thing to lauren we go okay great he starts walking to the lounge fast he's walking quick he was
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beelining it which we didn't know why but eventually we learned why he's beelining it to lounge almost like running to the lounge we're on like a light jog following him like the lounge is big so like we can't let him get too much distance because like we can't let him go to a corner of the lounge and we lose him the lounge is like bigger than the fucking airport at jfk delta one lounge jesus fucking christ that thing is a fucking giant giant metropolis metropolis so we are running and then as we're running i'm like lauren we look so creepy if he turns around and sees us running like why are we running
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Yeah. But Matt's always like, come on, let's go Black Diamond. And I'm like, I don't really want to be an adult on crutches.
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So we tried to be very covert, very undercover. We get to the lounge. We get to the lounge and there's a man at the front and he starts speaking to the man at the front of the lounge. So we immediately stop with him again.
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And I don't know if you guys have ever had this, but whenever there is a flight that has been delayed or something going on on an airline, you start to bond with the people around you, right? You're in it together. You become so cozy and comfortable. It's almost sad when you leave after the flight because you were in this battle together. That's what we were trying to push on this man.
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Like, I want this man to feel like we are his literal friends by the end of this. And he hopefully wants to fuck Lauren. If he needs a shoulder to cry on. We're here. So he turns to the guy and he's like, we're good to go. You guys will give us updates. And the person at the front of the lounge was like, yes, you're good. He goes, great. I got a rush. Do you know where the TVs are?
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I have to watch the football game. So naturally I'm standing there, not a clue in the world what football game is on. I'm like, Taylor Swift, Patrick Mahomes. He's like, I got to watch the game. Where's the TV? And I'm like, we kind of watch the game too, actually. We're like, we, yeah, where is the game on? And he literally goes, oh, you guys want to go? Yeah, where's the TV?
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Me too. I used to be a daredevil. Now I'm like slow and steady wins race. So Lauren and I are in Utah. And I would say that you and I have... First of all, Happy New Year, everyone. Like, I hope you had the best New Year's Eve.
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I'm like, yeah, I really need to see this game. What quarter is it? Are there quarters? Yeah. What quarter are we in? And so they like point us to the TV. This man beelines it to the TV. We start making our way to the TV as well. He places himself down. We look at each other and we go, we're being so fucking creepy.
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We now know where this man is sitting. Let's go at least to the bar. You guys, this is where the story takes a turn for the motherfucking worst, okay? I would say an hour goes by.
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We're like, he went to Michigan. He's smart. He's attractive. He likes football. Oh my God. You're in a fantasy league yourself, Lauren.
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Every 30 minutes, we had to go check in with the gate person, and he kept going over, and Lauren would walk over with him. She comes back over. She goes, hey, it's getting a little more flirty. Every time I go back over, it's progressing. We were making bets on when the flight would leave. We're making progress. I'm like, you're literally getting fingered in the bathroom tonight.
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I did it at 19. You almost like were excited for two seconds to then be like, can I even actually enjoy this? Cause this, does this mean it's over?
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When the rise really started, I think about the pressure that people put on you. It's like, oh my God, you're so great. We all are looking at you. You're Simone Biles. You just did the Olympics. You're thriving. You're getting gold. Did you ever feel like... you weren't allowed to have moments of weakness?
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It's perfect. Yes. Okay. So we were just at your parents' gym. Watching from previous documentaries that you've done to watching it all get built to you now, like having your own gym and how supportive your parents have been. Like, what does that support mean to you?
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Well, that's what I was going to say though, Simone. When you're saying I had to be strong, I'm technically the older one at the gym. I've now gone to the Olympics. I know what I'm doing. You're strong for your family. Who did you go to to say, hey, I'm stressed. I have all these followers. I have the world.
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Right. You're like, I don't know if I want to be at the top if it's this lonely, like if it's this isolating.
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It's like... Well, as I'm listening to you talk about this too, it's like there's so much pressure that is put on young athletes. Then when you are the star athlete at a young age, there's more pressure to grow up and become an adult soon because everything's riding on you, it feels like. And you're under a microscope. Yeah. And
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Then you have the press looking at you and fans and you're like, now I need to become media trained and now I need to learn how to like know how to just handle myself again at 19 years old. And something that I'm realizing you're saying, talking about how you had to bear a lot of this on your own with all of your success, then there was behind the scenes so much fucking going on. Yeah.
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In 2018, you spoke out about the abuse that you endured from the USA Gymnastics physician. I'm so curious, Simone, can you talk about your decision to open up about that?
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You can create this false narrative in your head of what you should endure and what's normal.
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What we're talking about also is there's so many different forms of abuse, but the abuse of power, it's such a tricky situation and we see it so often, but we're having a conversation about one, someone that you were told to trust, but also by an organization that was supposed to protect you and foster your career. And so there's so much, yes, abuse mentally, physically, emotionally.
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But like, I'm curious because I think sometimes when people look at you, it's like Simone Biles, like the face of mental health and she's the best in this. But it's like on the real day to day, like this shit is fucking awful to go through. And people weren't with you on the day to day. Once you decided to speak out about this, like...
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How did processing this trauma show up in your day-to-day life?
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It does not define you at all. It's an experience you went through. I do think it's unfortunate how so few people understand, though. This is something that is a part of you for the rest of your life. It doesn't define you. But when people are like, okay, it's never over.
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Yes, go, go. Good seeing you. This is insane. Simone Biles, welcome to Call Her Daddy. I feel like we've been waiting for this for so long. Okay, we need to tell the daddy gang the story. So I would say like, I don't know, maybe like a couple years ago, I don't remember who DM'd who. No, I remember. You tagged me in a story that you were watching Call Her Daddy and I...
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And doesn't that bring up sometimes like, there's shame that comes with it. You're like, why the fuck is this not going away?
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But it's like... But I do think you talking about it, Simone, and that's why I think it's really important how you said, this does not define you. But this is, it's also important to show people when people are like, that's so sad that happened to someone and then they move on with their lives. This is something that stays with people forever. And so...
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When you say the word Simone Biles to the world, I think everyone immediately thinks Olympian, the GOAT. And I think there's like a lot of people that probably don't know where you came from and the backstory of like, your life hasn't always just been this picture perfect situation. When you were three, you went into foster care. Yes.
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to neglect the conversation of like acting like it didn't happen.
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And you are who you are, but it's a piece of you and it's a part of you. I also think that's such an interesting comparison of like, if you mess up your ankle, it's visible. You can feel it. You can't ignore it with trauma. Emotionally you can shut that shit down and you can bury it so far That's the thing.
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To people that, I mean, aren't familiar, yes, you went to the Tokyo Olympics, and I'm curious, like, so you're saying you kind of knew, like, When do you think you knew? Like, where were you mentally going into the Tokyo Olympics?
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Can you share just a little bit like what was going on at home that led to that?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Something was off. And in training up to Tokyo, did you feel that too?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Isn't that so crazy as I'm listening to you? Like you're like, I'm on the plane ride to Tokyo and I knew, like I knew something was weird. And you didn't know when. But, like, that's, again, like, the body just telling you, like, something ain't right. Simone, we're not good. And you're like, push it down. We are fine.
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What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy.
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As I'm sitting here being like, so let's talk about the team final in Tokyo. I'm curious. We know what happened. You get lost in the air during your vault and everyone was shocked. But I'm curious, like take me to the moment literally when you land on the mat. What is going through your mind? Take me to the moment, literally, when you land on the mat. What is going through your mind?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
And can you explain that to people that have no idea what gymnastics, like they're like, what do you mean?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
And I was like, I don't, thanks. Can we just pause also? Like you landing and the first thing that you're thinking should have been, thank God I'm alive. Because you can severely hurt yourself in those moments. And you understandably, because this is such an athlete thing, it's like praise everyone, get everything for everyone and just like sacrifice my body at all costs.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
And you land on the mat and you're thinking, what is Twitter saying?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Can you explain also to people that aren't familiar? What is the twisties?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Immediately when you get off the mat, what do you do?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
And are you, like, internally freaking out? But you're coming off just like.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
I think that's so hard. When you're an athlete, you understand that moment where you're like, you logically know there was nothing else you could have done. But your brain is illogical when you're in those moments with your teammates where you're like, I will literally die for this team right now.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
What happened in the back? Did you just try to, like, what happened?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
I think I'll send this one out. Simone's got it.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Literally, mom, come pick me up. I'm scared. I'm in Tokyo, and you're back in the United States. What did your mom say?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
It's also just like as an athlete, you're so right. It's like the feeling of trying, we're supposed to be the toughest. Yeah. We're like, you're invincible. What do you mean? We can't see the injury, so you're fine.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
How do you tweet that one to the world?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
What are your parents like on that call? Your mom's checking if you're okay. What is your dad like in those moments?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Now having met him, I get it. Like he has such a incredibly high standard for you in the best way. And he's so like fierce and loyal, but like.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
You ended up participating in the individual beam competition and won a bronze medal flex. How did you know you were okay to compete?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
But how do you even like mentally get yourself together to like after that moment with fault? It was like four days later, thank God. Thank God, you could just like chill.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
For people to be like, don't come home with that bronze. It's like, sorry, do you know how to do a cartwheel? That's what I'm saying. Sorry, who are you to say don't come home with a bronze? Yeah, it's crazy. I'll walk my ass back into America, happily raise it around.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Yeah, but you couldn't tell me that it was a bronze. Because you got it. Yeah. Like, God bless. Okay, take me to the plane ride. I'm picturing you. You're like getting through these Olympics at this point. You get bronze. You're like, time to go back. home, that's a long-ass plane ride.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
No, it is sitting in your chest. You're like, when can I sob? When can I sit in my bed for 48 hours and not leave and just sob? Yeah. And you had to do a parade. Yeah, a parade. At that point, you're like, will the tears even come at this point?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Well, no, and that's what I appreciate you sharing that because it doesn't take away from, you had an amazing experience with those people, but it's like, again, shows the level of strength you have of like, You know, Simone Biles, the public person and what she needs to do to show up. But like, and I don't want you to share what you're comfortable because therapy is sacred.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
But like in those sessions, are you going beat by beat or are you just talking about the overall feeling and experience? Yeah.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Oh, God. Is that good or bad timing?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Like you weren't in a house and then you were- You were adopted.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
I was going to say like in a strange way because I was thinking about – I'm actually like – I feel like I can visualize oddly like that scene of you opening that suitcase. Yeah. And just like sitting there with – it in front of you of like, and the emotions and everything you're feeling from what you just tried to run away from kind of is sitting there going now to this new phase.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
It's a little traumatizing, you're right, to be like, am I gonna do that again? Like I gotta do- Like I'm gonna put myself through this. Right. Yeah. When you were home, when was the first time you tried the vault again? Like, did you go immediately into the gym? What was the situation?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Did your parents ever talk to you about your biological parents?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
You're like, I'm just like here to jump on the trampoline. Like, calm down.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
What was the lowest... point of the entire Tokyo aftermath and experience?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
But you don't want to speak up because then you're like, I don't want to be out.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Cause it's, I think what people I hope understand is like, there's this mental tap, like, taxing aspect of like when you fail at something, you can't unsee it and you can't unfeel it. So you're trying to remove yourself and you're trying to push it as far away as possible, but your brain has experienced it once. So you need to be so mentally strong to lock that so far in the corner, but it's hard.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
So when did you approach your coaches and say, I want to come back.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
It's a whole family tree that you're like, don't make me explain it. My parents are my parents. I got chosen. Feeling blessed. Let's move on. Literally. I'm like, if you think too hard, it just gets jumbled. So your grandparents adopted you at six. Yes. Now they're your parents. Yes. Boom. How do you think that did change though, like the trajectory of your life?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
That we weren't going to the Olympics. So I can officially ask and you can confirm, like, the goal is to go to Paris.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
The goal is to go to Paris. Yes. So if you're going to Paris, how are you approaching the games differently compared to previous years?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Therapy is the most incredible thing that I have always said to people. You do, though, need to get into it when you're ready. It's like so many people can tell you to go, and if your body and brain is not ready to go, it's not even going to penetrate. You're going to be like, I don't feel shit. Yeah.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
I think I saw an interview of you where you were like, which I kind of loved, you were like, people will ask you your goals if you're, you know, for the Olympics. And you're like, I'm not sharing my goals because I'm so sick of people then like shoving them in my face if I don't hit it. And I think that's good for you to set boundaries with press.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Can I ask though, like a personal, like not having to do with gymnastics, a personal goal mentally for you that you're going to carry through?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Oh, yeah. You're like, sorry, I'm like a little busy. That's so relatable.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Sorry, I'm not here. That's the worst when your therapist calls you out and is like, why – I know you're free. And you're like, no, I'm not. And they're like, and those are the ones that they always get mad at you because they're like, those are the sessions you need the most.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
I'm like. But I feel so guilty and so ashamed. I do too. When I ghost my therapist. Is there anything more toxic than ghosting your therapist? You're literally like, this is like the most toxic. Because it's the healthiest relationship you're in. Thank you. But like so toxic. So bad. Sometimes you just, you can't. We need a break. Sometimes I don't want to talk my feelings too much.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Now you're shoving this down my throat. I hope you, and I know this to any one going through mental health situations or survivors, whatever it is, like it is not on you to speed up the process of recovery from trauma. That was not your fault.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
And so it's hard to, again, as athletes, you're trained to get over things so quickly, but this is one thing you have to like rewire your brain to be like, it's okay to feel this and don't shove it away. Call your therapist. Talk it through.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Okay, this is Still Call Her Daddy. So I want to talk about your husband. You're married to an NFL player, Jonathan Owens.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
You're married to an NFL player, Jonathan Owens.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
You met on Raya, which first I just want to say, like, God bless you because I had no luck on Raya. Okay, girl? Like, Raya was just doing nothing for me but, like, DJs in Australia. Yeah. So good for you.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Were they? Athletes, check. 5,200 miles. Listen, I had enough of my days with athletes, okay? Simone, I had to move on. What made his profile stand out?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
I mean, note to men listening, even if you don't own a dog, take a picture with the dog and put it on your profile because it won't work.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
I mean, mom, like, oh, he's so cute. Is that him laughing back there? Someone's laughing.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
You figured it out. Figured it out. You figured it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. So it was okay. When did you start to realize he was the one?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Wow. I mean, it's incredible to see what you have all built together as a family. I love how in the beginning you just quickly are like, and then when I'm at the gym, back up. Okay. You are the greatest of all time.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
I love- He's never seen a girl. The dog has never met a girl. Context clues. Simone, you're a genius. You're like, they've never seen a woman. Or even the delusion. You're like, they've never seen a woman in their life. The delusion. The delusion. Yeah.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
I don't even know if he's in this house yet. I think he is. We have to talk about the viral moment. Like we have to do it. I knew you were going to ask. I have to. I have to. Jonathan's viral interview where he said he had no idea who you were and the internet went insane. What was your reaction when you heard the interview and everything?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
And you were feeling great. I was feeling great.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Let's talk about when you first got into gymnastics. Do you remember? Did you just think of it as a hobby? Were you passionate about it? How did you get into gymnastics?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Like he's just so sweet. He's just doing things like you, you feel loved and you feel supported.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Like, he's the sweetest. Like, he's thinking of the little things. Yes. I think what's crazy is, first of all, just as we know, the internet, like, you never know what's going to go viral.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Right. Like you're like, I actually like that. You're like, sometimes I'm like, I want to have my wag moment on the field where I'm just like, I'm not Simone Biles, the Olympian. I'm just Simone Biles. Like, and that's my boo on the field.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
When that was all going crazy and trending, what are you guys saying to each other?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Yeah, it was just perceived in not the correct way.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
You're like, you don't want me to clap back.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Yeah, you're just like, it's better to not.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Yeah. Okay. Jonathan has never- They're in the drafts. Yeah. They're in the drafts. You draft them and you never send them. Because if I at least type it out, I feel better. I hope someone hacks your Twitter and just rips. Can you imagine? We're like, damn, damn. Because they're like quoted. Literally. Okay. Jonathan has never gotten to go to the Olympics before with you.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
What are you most excited about for him to experience?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Oh, so you're like, come with me, babe. Let me show you the world. Literally. Okay. Regardless of what happens in Paris, what do you hope your legacy is?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
I think that is so beautiful. And I think first I would just like to thank you because hearing so much of what you're talking about, like you are so perceived on the internet and there's so much pressure and it's difficult to open up and sit and be honest and vulnerable. And I appreciate you trusting me with your story and this experience because I am such a huge fan of yours.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
And I think you are... You are so much more than gymnastics, but you are kick-ass badass as a gymnast. Obviously the greatest of all time. So I just cannot wait to see what's next for you. And I don't just mean obviously the Olympics, like just your life and your career and Simone Biles. And I love you. Congrats. Congrats.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Truly fascinating that like some people you hear that are so great, like Tom Brady, for example. You think of Tom and they're like, oh, he was a little awkward and it's like kind of crazy that like Tom can even like run the way he can. For you, it's the complete opposite where like you walked into the gym and people were like, who is that girl?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
And you had never done any of this before because I was going to ask you like, was there ever once you started an aha moment that you were like, holy shit, I'm actually really good at this? Yeah.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Were you in school? Did people make comments about how short you were?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
I was going to say, I feel like getting into this sport, any sport at the competitive level that you're dealing with, you have to have such discipline and drive. And I'm wondering, where did that come from, this competitiveness in you?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Yeah. When you do compete at this level, I know that for athletes, it's like, it's not just you committing your life. It's your entire family has to get on board. It's a lifestyle change. When do you think you guys really all decided like, oh, as a family, we're going for this?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Because you went to public school till eighth grade, right? Correct. And then you officially did homeschooling starting high school. Did you get to have any, like, typical teenage experiences? Like, did you go to prom?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
No. Talk about, like, a culture shock. What? I was about to say the fact, the fact, I need to hear if there's anyone in the world that could say that statement. The first time I ever danced with a boy was on Dancing with the Stars. Literally. Icon. Yeah. Icon. Like it's giving like only you. Crazy. Are you kidding? Okay. So you never got, did you have sleepovers?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
lost my mind because I was like wait she listens like and then I started pressuring I'm like oh my god I need to like do better like I need to impress Simone like but it was such a cool full circle moment that we started DMing and we had this like DMing relationship here and there and then when NBC and I started working together for the Olympics I remember we sat down
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
And if people don't play sports, like, I look back, I'm like, okay, can I relate to that? I'm like, yeah, growing up, most of my friends were just soccer friends. Because you're just kind of becoming family and they're like your sisters. Yeah.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
And like, they're like texting boys on AIM and you're like in the gym. I don't know what that is.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
And did you resent it at all? Like, did you ever be like, why am I doing this? Like, why am I doing this to myself?
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Right. I get what you're saying. It's almost like it was okay for you to escape to the gym because you felt more confident there.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
And they were like, okay, like what person do you want to interview? And immediately I was like, Simone. And like, of course, they're like, LOL. Like, that's so cute. Like, of course, everyone wants to interview Simone. I'm like, no, like I need to interview her. And they're like, do you know her? And I'm like- Kind of. Yeah. We're pen pals like that. And now we're finally here. Thank God.
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Simone Biles: “I thought America hated me” (FBF)
Well, it's incredible to look back and as much as you sacrificed, the sacrifice has clearly paid off because when you were 16 is when your winning streak just really began. You won three consecutive world championships and then you went on to dominate, dominate the Rio Olympics. When you look back at that time of your life, like what does that success mean to you?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
I have a champagne bottle. Okay, so Spencer, right off the bat, is just shitting on me for not having a good ticket.
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And I'm like, oh, you make elevator music. Fuck off.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
They clearly were like, wait, we're filming this shit and we're not getting the same thing that Spencer came with his DVD because it was you. Brody was so comfortable with you being like, Spencer, get the fuck out of my face. And like David Foster's like Spencer, like everyone knew you. So they were giving you that content.
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Let's pop the Dom. OK, do you want to pop the Dom?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
They're not going to do it as easily in front of these like random like guys with cameras. So they needed you to get back in there. But that sucks that then your credit basically got taken as in terms of a producer.
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OK, let's do that. Let's do that. That's a better way to go about it. OK, I feel like you should do the honors.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Damn, that's wild. That like day one of filming.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Caught him cheating. And you're like, wait, no, we need one, this house to film it. This two, we need the family together. And then the rest of the season, they just like, she tried to fake it for you. Yeah, she did.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Brody Jenner had step siblings at the time. When do you remember meeting Kim Kardashian for the first time and what was she like back then?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
So no, I appreciate that because I think that a lot of people don't know about the Princess of Malibu. Like if you're on TikTok, sorry, but people may not know about it. And I think that it was interesting when you look back at your history that you started this like journey. Basically little reality show following Brody around. And Kim is just like there in a scene.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
And you're like, whoa, like this was the beginning. And then I believe you that Chris called because it's like you guys were doing it before the Kardashians started it.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
And that's when reality TV really started to pop off was like, slowly like the simple life and then obviously though the biggest I think was when the hills popped off and that was when it was like holy shit this is reality TV and because yes how I got to the hills yeah yeah yeah it's gonna be a two-part call her daddy podcast
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
All our daddy podcasts. Beautiful. I don't know. Cheers to the daddy gang.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Okay, here we go. Mr. Pratt. Oh my gosh. Look at this outfit. I love it. Oh my God. So nice to meet you.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
I'm so honored you're here. They're going to love you. Spencer, you are popping off on TikTok. I need to know, what is your strategy?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
yeah she was dating Chase Crawford who was like the it like hot guy you know peak you know a gossip girl yeah like couldn't be cooler so she wasn't like oh poor Spencer like right there was not that I love hearing you say that though because I always felt that vibe from Heidi but they always cast her as this like damsel in distress like Jordan's being mad mean to me and then you she meets you and it's like Spencer's being mean to me I'm like that's not the vibe I get from Heidi you
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
yeah like I'm they're not showing me begging her to be boyfriend girlfriend yeah I don't want that title like right you know like she was more yeah so yeah she was a gangster like you know so now knowing that's actually a really great story that it goes all the way back to your mom looking at the TV and being like you should date this girl and then you guys actually meet and you immediately have a vibe what was your first impression of Lauren Conrad when you met her
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
What was your first impression of Lauren Conrad when you met her?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Yeah. With regard to your relationship with Heidi, how did you guys separate reality from reality TV to keep your relationship healthy?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
I kind of love that Heidi's like, Spencer, knock it the fuck off. And you're like, can't hear you, a million views, gotta go.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
But you guys really took a turn to be like the most hated couple in the world. And Heidi got all the surgery. Did you ever try to convince Heidi not to get surgery?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Okay, we're going upstairs to the interview. Are you ready? Should we bring this or no? Let's leave it. You need to drive home in your fucked up car. Oh, no, I'm towing it. Oh, here? You're towing it here? That's a tow situation. Oh, you're towing it here?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Sensor? It's all about the money. Let's go upstairs. Oh, my gosh. All right. Deep breath.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
That's also just so crazy to hear you talk about it too, because of like how manipulative and like,
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
really scary like when you're young you don't understand and these doctors should do a better job of explaining like the fact that they said minor to you and you're like it was in the morning also the fact that you're like it was the day of and they're like we can just do this like we'll scoop out your back we'll pin back your ears we'll and he's saying the price of each thing and like back to heidi who's like a banker he's like this is 25 i mean it was like a quarter million dollars when he like
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
People hated you more than people who murdered people. You were more hated than OJ Simpson at one point.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
So no, you understood what you were doing. And then when people did it and they thought it was real, you were like, wait, guys. Yeah. And I don't know.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
So gold was your friend. You're like, I can't spend this.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Right, right, right. Okay, Spencer, you created the concept. I am now convinced. I look back and I'm like, there was Simple Life. There was like Newlyweds with Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey, like early, early days. But you... created the reality show villain?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
I've sat down with reality people now and sitting down with you who was like the originator of the villain. I want to expose how easily the edit process is that reality TV uses to make something look like a conversation happened. And it really was a complete different conversation that happened. Do you know what I mean? So who is someone that you really dislike?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Like someone that pisses you off and can get you like riled up.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Okay. I'm Adam Davila. Okay. And I'm going to, we're about, we're in a fight. We are in a fight right now. I'm Adam. You're Spencer. And I'm talking so much shit to you. This is what's going to happen is the point is, is, It's like I'm a producer being like, you're pissed at Adam. What would you say to Adam? And it's like, fuck you. And then you walk out of the interview.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
What I'm going to do is at the beginning of this episode, it's going to be a cold open. And I'm going to dub in a different question of me being like, Spencer, you're irrelevant. How do you feel? And you're going to be looking at me when really everyone right now will see what that original thing was.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
I'm talking about Adam DeVillo, but we're going to cut it and make it look like you were shitting on me. And you walk out of the color daddy interview.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Do you have a notes app of what you want to say to Adam Tavillo?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
We can do it twice. We just want to get the best. And again, what is happening right here is going to go in the episode, just so you know. You're not getting fucked over. We're going to show this process.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Power of edit, baby. I liked that first line you said.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
No, I think that was pretty good because you said, fuck you, fuck this. I'm going to do one more and I'm going to keep all this in of like, guys, this is the, this is, I'm like poking him. I'm Adam DeBello. I'm like, you are.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Okay, so let's, like, channel that annoyance. Let me call Heidi. Who do I dislike?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Fuck you, Cooper. Fuck you. Fuck you. Spencer! Spencer! Meryl Streep!
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Well in post edit and that's the beauty again, I'll share with everyone watching is like, we'll look back and see which one looks more real. Maybe the first one looks more real because it was less try hard.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
No, we're not. Oh, my God. No, no, no, we're not. You're like, I'm not leaving. Thank you for playing along. That was a great promo. Is there a specific manufactured storyline you regret saying yes to?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Thank you for kicking us off. I feel really zen and calm. I almost just started crying. I don't know if it was tears of joy or laughter, but it was something. You got an emotion out of me.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Totally. And I think it's fucked up because like you're saying, these men in these position of power insulate themselves with all these other men that are going to make him like almost impenetrable to any type of power. any type of getting in trouble. And however, what you're saying also is because you're the mercenary, it's fucked up.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Like we saw Christine Quinn was one of the first people which she's fortunate. She's got a lot of fucking money. She's got her own money and she's got her husband that has a fuck ton of money. And so when you're in a position where you need this person that's in a position of power and fucked up, but you need to make a living. You need money. You're kind of at the hands of their power.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
And so I hear what you're saying. You're like, I would take the Netflix show because that's what your career is. But you're not saying he's a good guy. I want to, because I've never talked about this to my listeners. So when Heidi was on Call Her Daddy last year, she brought up an incident where the producer from the Hills was physical with her.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
After filming that episode, the MTV rep that repped Heidi called my team and said, you need to take that out of the episode or you can't air it. I don't even know if Heidi knows this.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
So my team gets this call and Daddy Gang listening, like you can go back. And that interview, they said, you have to take that part out or you can't air the episode. I thought it was coming from Heidi. And I'm like, who am I to put someone's like abuse story out there if they don't want it out? So I took it out of the episode. Fast forward...
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
A few weeks ago, Christine Quinn sits down with me and she talks about how Adam DeVillo is the new producer who is the original producer of The Hills. And she mentions Heidi's name in the interview saying we both had really bad experiences with these producers. Immediately, I message Heidi.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Okay, Spencer Pratt, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
I go right to Heidi because I'm like, I don't want to put your name in the episode if you're not comfortable with it. I know Christine doesn't want to speak for you. I want to make sure you're good with it. And Heidi was like, absolutely put it in there. It's the truth.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
to which i then realized oh my god last year i fully got played i was like last year that was not heidi not wanting to put that in but now that you're done with the hills can you explain what the fuck happened with that whole situation again i wasn't there i was never allowed to be that's why that's why these predator type people like that people that want the smoke they won't have like
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
You grew up in California, going to school with celebrities and celebrities' kids. Who was the first famous person you remember meeting in your life?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
It makes me really sad for Heidi that it took years. Everyone is believing Christine Quinn right now.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
He did not believe it could have been a coincidence. Yeah, no way. He's like, you are here to kill me?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
I did not expect the answer that's fucking baller.
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That is, you know, that's really cool that you have those, like, mementos.
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We'll put them next to our portraits in our homes of ourselves.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
I'm going to give it to you right now. Like you went to USC, the whole backstory. I'm happy. You told us that the Prince of Malibu, like,
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You can't hijack something you didn't know existed.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
I'm just kidding. Honestly, thank you so much for coming on.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
So you reference your high school and how you were surrounded by like a lot of famous people. What were you like in high school and what did the other kids think about you?
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Okay, so it's interesting because I feel like what you were saying about being in high school, like you were always kind of this like polarizing figure. There are going to be people that like me and then there are going to be people that don't like me and that's okay. But when you were younger, did you ever get in trouble for your temper? No.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Oh my god! Okay, do you- can you mic yourself up immediately? Because we're getting into this.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Wait, isn't it cute? It's my- Spencer, it's the first time I'm using these.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
I'm honored because I knew you were someone that would know how to put it on and use it.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
So I should have done it. Okay, we're going over here to make a drink.
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You were going to be on those tabloids. Okay, but in your head, Spencer, what were you thinking you were going to be on the tabloids for?
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If you had grown up in Ohio, like, do you think because of where you grew up and what you were around is why you wanted to be famous? Cause you got to. Oh, 100%.
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Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
Okay. I was looking this up and nowhere is this story. When and how did you meet Brody Jenner?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
We're pretty great. But what I can imagine is like, did you have a girlfriend in high school ever?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
How did that go over with her? You having all these lady friends?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
I feel like you played a lot of games back in the day.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Tell me, why is your hometown so... Why are you looking at me like that?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Okay, we're moving on. What was the major turning point in your career, if you had to say, like, one big moment where you're like, oh, people fucking know me now?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
That must be so crazy. Like now understanding that you always kind of were like recognizable in Kentucky, but then to go somewhere else and be like, oh, fuck, I think I'm like famous now. How do you handle that? Do you like it?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
What country have you, like, maybe liked the most of the ladies? Who shows you the most love outside of the U.S.?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
You're like a strong, confident, smart woman. Yeah.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
So if a girl's playing a game with you, are you like, no? Do you like a girl that's like, hi, Jack, I like you? Or are you saying just sweet, nice-hearted, but maybe they can kind of get with you?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Maybe you're playing the games at 30. Yeah.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Like maybe you want a woman that's like making the bread.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Yeah. You mentioned when you were talking about vulnerability. I'm like, what's your biggest insecurity when you were younger? And like, do you still feel that way?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Did you get braces where like you would like decorate with the colors on the little.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
But like Halloween time, you didn't do like black and orange.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
I didn't. It was like disgusting. Like I look back and I'm like, it looks like there's like carrots and black beans in my teeth.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Oh my God. I had two big front teeth and no one wanted to finger me. No one wanted to touch me, Doc. I was always the girl like never on the top five.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
I like your purple pants. Your pink outfit. Did you match it to the studio or just that happened chance?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
You kind of look like you're the host of this show. You fit more into this room than me.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Okay, let's role play. You're trying to impress me. You're taking me on a date. Walk me through what we're doing, where we're going. What's the vibe?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
And then I think maybe you'll say, Ooh, like now I'm really in love.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
But that maybe is just also life. Like, maybe you're not capable in high school. Like, you actually were in that moment in love of what you were capable of getting.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Yeah. A brunette that's sweet in a nurse outfit? Done. Done.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
I want to discuss some of your song lyrics. You say, I'm vanilla, baby.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
On a scale of vanilla to kinky, where are you at in your sex game?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Can you help me understand? We got vanilla and we got kinky and you're in the middle. So I'm going to say something to you and you're going to tell me if it's vanilla or kinky.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Don't you think sometimes people think missionary would be vanilla? But if you do it the right way.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
yeah in there but i think some people really don't want to look at each other because they're like i fucking hate you but just let's fuck but you're not like that you're making sweet love typically every once in a while you gotta roll the motherfucker over but yeah yeah yeah what is your favorite sex position we are we just spent the last 10 minutes that is it if i didn't ask you don't know what they call me
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Jack Harlow does mention my name in the song.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
What do you think about whips and chains? Obviously, it's in your song. I like no whips and chains, but you can hold me down. It's a no-go.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
The girl you're hooking up with. If she said Jack.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Maybe it's the person earlier that you said you didn't want to say it. Perhaps. Sexting.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Hot take. Are you the guy that's sending paragraphs?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
I just hate when I read the paragraph, if a man has ever sexed me, and it's like, first. And I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ, here we go. It's like, then. Moving forward. And you're like, let's just.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
My next question was a finger in the butthole.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
I feel like your DMs are going to be scary after this episode. Daddy gang goes hard.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
I've never given one of those. Do you suggest?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
What are you saying in the bedroom? What are you doing over there? Are you now after you went through your breathing phase? Cause that's why.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Say it. Let it be known. Literature. Are you good at detecting if a woman is faking an orgasm?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
So sad. So many women have probably faked it.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Let's talk about your new single. Thank you.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Is it, okay, you just said like, you kind of like roll it off the tongue. You're like Louisville. Is it Louisville?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Ville. louisville louisville louisville it kind of just like in the throat you're just like oh yeah it's buttery it's syrupy yeah but like if you hear people say louisville do you give a
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Yeah. Yeah. Well, because I saw my friends both went to college there, like my good friends. And then when I went for a wedding last year, I was trying to suss out the vibe because I was like, I want to say Louisville. But like I was trying to not like embarrass myself. So I just said Louisville. But then you just said I said it right. So I'm going to just keep saying Louisville.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
What do you think is the biggest misconception people have about Kentucky?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Jack Harlow, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
shit this rhythm mixed with expressing myself it was just I didn't realize you were a Harry Potter stan can we talk about that for a second well I'm not a stan but yes then what the fuck are you fuck it I'm a stan come on let's go oh you're like easily persuaded I'm easy yeah you're easy peer pressure let's go Jack the whole time easily I'm very influenced yeah who's your favorite of the Harry Potters yeah the characters yeah
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Do you think the first time you jerked off was when you were at the 16th chapter and you were like, all right, I got to put the book down. I'm getting hard.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
No, no one wants to talk about that shit. They'll bleep it out. They'll cut the whole thing down.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
This will be the whole promo. This will be it.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Do you remember that feeling? Like, what did you think to yourself?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
I love how you gave yourself blue balls for the first time.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Great feeling. You said that you weren't allowed to play video games. What was your house like growing up? What was the dynamic? Who's in your house? What's going on?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Wow. So are you kind of like a romantic guy?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Just like not the vibe to be in Vegas all the time.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
I think I know it shifted, but we'll get there. Can't wait to hear your diagnosis. Yeah, yeah. Don't worry. We're going full diagnosis. This is a therapy session, just so you know. Are you in therapy?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Okay, good. Well, this is an extended version. Good. You can tell your therapist, we don't need our session this week. I sit down with Alex.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
You said that you were looking for validation. What? Talk to me about what you were like in high school. Did you get the girls? Were you a loser? Were you bullied? Were you the bully?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
What were your friends like? Were you an athlete guy? Were you a chess player? Were you in the book club?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
I feel like I know, fuck, what was his name? Was it like Sammy? Do you know who I'm talking about?
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Sammy Adams from Philly. And I remember, I know what you're talking about of like, I feel like a lot of high school.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
That's kind of funny, the juxtaposition of you being a rapper and then having your glasses and maybe not looking the part.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Okay. Okay. Good to know. Um, I want to go back to the beginning because I'm like already you sitting in this chair, Jack, the ladies are blushing. They're happy. They're cozy. They're like, Oh, Jack's here. They all have a crush, but today we're going to make them really fall in love. I can tell. Okay.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
Were people in your hometown like I feel like sometimes people are assholes at that age being like, you're a fucking loser. Stop trying to make it where people around you supportive or were they like, you're dumb. Move on.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
You know what's funny is like just so anyone listening, the ladies, like I think there's something on Google because I was going to give you merch. And I was like, oh, like I remember I met him at SNL and like he's taller than I expected. And online there's something of like he's either 5'8 or he's like 6'2. And there's like a misconception.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
And I think like people think you're shorter than you are. So I'm here to say you're pretty tall.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
So we're going to go back to the very beginning. You grew up in Kentucky, born and raised.
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Jack Harlow: I’m *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF)
It was the attention. What you gave them or did you ever hook up with anyone that helped you cheat?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
It seems like you guys agree. It seems like you guys are kind of having a good time, right? I think. So I was thinking, I'm always up to something. You're like, Alex, what the fuck now? What now? Let's sometimes go to the guest. And who better kick off season four than one of the most highly requested and anticipated guests of this show's history, Daddy Gang.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Like when you say that out loud now, like what do you feel for like your younger self? Like having to deal with that for like a peer dynamic because of something that was happening with your parents?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
First of all, like hearing that you couldn't have people over for like sleepovers or get togethers, like because everyone else was. so involved in this and this was like town gossip essentially like did it prohibit you from being able to actually like have your own opinion of the situation or do you think it just like really amplified your feelings toward it?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
How has maturing and getting older helped you to see everything maybe in a different light?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
You have been begging me to get this person on Call Her Daddy all year. All year I see it. And just so you know, I see you, I hear you, I see the comments, I get it. And let me just ask, guys, come on. When has your father ever failed you? So let's go hang out with the internet's biggest it girl. Daddy gang, here we fucking go. What is up, daddy gang?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Everyone gets fucked up by their parents somehow. You can be so affected from it, but then it also does help, I agree, when you get older to look at people and be like,
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
damn like we're making mistakes right now I'm like what's the next phase of life gonna be that we're going to have if when we have kids one day like what are we gonna do exactly trying to find the silver lining because at the end of the day you got to survive you got to move forward you love your family obviously there's been hardships but it's like how do you move forward I guess that is kind of my next question is like you do have this beautifully blended family now like what is the best part of it
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Totally. People are like, oh, I'm so jealous. I want to have this huge, big family. And it's like, you've had to deal with your own shit. It's not all perfect. We're sitting here talking about how you dealt with, in your childhood, in your family, an affair, essentially. And this past summer, you were getting scrutinized on the internet. People were calling you a mistress.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Some people were calling you a homewrecker in regards to the NFL player that you were hooking up with. Can you confirm, were you hooking up with him when he was in a relationship?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
So why do people even think that he was cheating with you?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
tell the truth or tell my truth you know so i'm excited i'm so proud of you i need a fucking drink okay me too i need 10 i'm looking in your eyes i'm like we need shots we need to go out we need tequila right now we're like both crying we're like we did not intend to get this emotional but i think it was only right that we kick off caller daddy we're both crying now we're like let's go get fucked up i have to say alex as much as i would love to go out with you in new jersey
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I think that maybe instead of going out where you were raised and born, I think we should go where you became famous, where you really became Alex Roll at the Internet Knows. Let's go to Miami.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Alex, these chairs are everything. They're kind of comfy. Yeah, they're like kind of a vibe. Like they're setting the vibe of like you just moved in. This is all you have. Yeah, this is all we have. OK, so let's let's talk about this is your first apartment post college. How did you even decide to stay in Miami?
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i think you're like when i was coming here i was like i'm so excited because we are going to go out tonight and i was like you really have become in my eyes and i think in everyone's my eyes like the mayor of miami yeah that's like a i don't know about the mayor okay let's make a fucking drink what are we making
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's stick to one. No blacking out and no crowing out.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I can't either. I think I'm just gonna go on the rocks. Wait, here. Okay. Okay. This is what we've all been waiting for, guys. Now it's gonna be fun. Cheers. Cheers.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I think every single person online is like, I want to go out and party with Alex Earl. I'm getting the honor. You're kind of taking me out of retirement because I just get fucked up in my home now. While we're getting ready, daddy gang, I'm going to ask Alex some questions because we need to get to know her. Did you always know how to do makeup really well?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Okay, but also don't you feel like when you have acne, like you come up with the most innovative ways to cover that shit?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I will take this to the grave. You just learn how to do it. It's more of like out of survival rather than like... You know what I used to do? Tell me.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Isn't it crazy too because you think like oh my god he won't notice me while we just look orange. I did the same thing but if did you ever do this because you knew that your like breakouts would get so much worse. I used to go in and I would take a makeup wipe and right when I knew he was asleep mid-sleep I would go and take it off
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
And then I would make sure to wake myself up before he wasn't that responsible. You're like, no, I just, I just triple caked it.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I'm not sleeping in my makeup. And you just leave and you're like, you will never see me again. Um, okay. Speaking of boys, Alex Earl. Are you currently single? Yes. Oh, I love how fast you just said that. Were you an NFL man ever exclusive?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
You want to live a normal life. You want to go get sushi. You want him to take you out. But you're also like, wait, everyone thinks we've been fully dating. This is our first date. Did you ever want to be exclusive?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Dude, I relate so much. I feel like all the time in college, I would feel the same. Like I never wanted to just hook up with a guy to hook up with a guy. Like I needed to make sure I liked him. And then naturally, I feel like people pose women so much more emotional than men. And I'm like, that's actually just not true.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
We may be more outwardly emotional, but when you get into a relationship, guys get fucking sappy with it. And so I would start hooking up with guys and I'd obviously want to get to know him better. And then all of a sudden I'd be like, okay, now I can actually like fuck him and like him because I'm like... I know his personality.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
But then when you do that with them, then they're like, we're ready to date.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I just wanted to make sure I like your personality before like you go down on me.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
So like, yeah, exactly. So I relate to that and I think it's okay. I just think it's annoying. Obviously. I think I've seen a lot of things in the media about people being like, oh my God, like he would never date her because she's like going out and partying. And I,
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
no shade to him but I think it's important sometimes to be like it's not always that the woman is waiting for the man to pick him like as I've been snooping around talking to your friends behind your back I'm hearing like you're very much so in control of these dating situations and you're just trying to like keep it chill I don't know we're having fun but there's just there's no pressure and I've expressed kind of my
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
It's happening. Okay. Alex Earl, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Okay, so Alex, to people that are tuning in being like, who is Alex Earl? What is happening in this episode? During your senior year of college at the University of Miami, you absolutely blew up. You got a huge following online and you are now arguably one of the most famous people on the internet. Everyone's obsessed with you.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I think that sometimes it's actually really good to just establish that, even though it seems weird to word vomit that. I think what you need to do is 100% talk about this on your show because the behind the scenes details of how you- There's a lot.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Guys, Daddy King, if you're not aware, Alex started to kind of like see this NFL player and let's just say she got herself stuck into a little bit of a love triangle. And I'm assuming on Hot Mess, you are going to talk about the whole thing, which I think is appropriate just because you're just going to, you got to clear your name, girl.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I love it. Okay. So if you met the right person right now, would you be open to a relationship or are you really trying to stay single right now?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Isn't that so weird, too, when, like, you get out of college, don't you feel, like, this pressure where, like, I have to figure everything out? And it's, like, you're still 22 years old. Like, you have time. You can date around. You don't need to get into a serious relationship unless it feels like, oh, my God, I'm so in love with this person. Are you sweating like a fucking psycho?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I'm, I'm, I'm, you guys, I have to get out of this robe.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I'm sorry. I am, I am. Alex, Alex, I'm literally drenched. Okay, let us know. I saw you and me and I'm like, am I, I'm literally drenched. Okay, we're going to be right back. Let's continue. So Alex Earle, answer this question and just, you know, what comes to the heart? What is your type on paper?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Like you want someone that can like match your energy. Like you don't want to feel bad when you're having a good time partying and you look over and the guy that you're fucking is like standing in the corner being like, why is she going crazy? You want him like right next to you. Yes. I think I saw a video of you with someone doing that with you. What? A guy, like at a concert.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Talk about Alex Earle. Daddy gang, it is your founding father back at it again for another season of Call Her Daddy. We made it, baby. Okay, we fucking made it. Season four. I don't know if you're ready for what I have planned for you, but I am really, really fucking excited. I have now officially been doing Call Her Daddy solo. for four years.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I think I saw him doing that next to you. He was dancing with you. He's matching your energy. What the fuck is he doing? What was that creeper doing? So, okay, so you like someone loud, which can sometimes come off as like cocky. So you have to kind of balance finding that. Okay, so tall, dark, and handsome. You know you're getting roasted on the internet right now already.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
What is your emotional type? Aside from being loud, what are you actually looking for from a guy?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Because meeting you, I feel like your life is a lot of like, you're calling the shots, you're running a lot of things in your life. So it's kind of hot to have a guy that like knows what he wants.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
as they're not warming that bench up and they're riding that bench then we're good to go if you're on the field we love you if not we're so i'm gonna get roasted for that no it's okay um okay what is the best and worst part i can participate in this of dating an athlete um well i think the
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
It's not like, you know, it's really nice because like when he comes home, like you're like, so being on that sideline, it gives, no, I love it. I think the answer is right. I think my answer is similar. Like, I feel like when they're doing good, it's really good. Yeah. I think the worst part is like,
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Their whole life is very much so focused on like no one telling them that they're doing anything wrong. It's like, you're doing great. So like when they're having a bad game, it's like, we need to, I used to have to sit in silence on the couch with him as he was like, Oh my God. Like that was fucking awful. And you're just like their fucking therapist as they cry.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
And you're like, I have a life too. Like we had dinner plans.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I also think on, this is like fucked up to say, but we'll just say it. I think also on campus, the athletes to me started to become on like an actual college land are not as fun because they're like on campus, they're sitting in the dorms. But then when you do meet professional athletes, like they actually do go out a little bit more than you would anticipate.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
And they also are like living a nice lifestyle and like have nice apartments and like have things that like, they're kind of more, a little bit more in the real world. I do think the NFL schedule is great for you, sweetie.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Is it like 16 games in a season? I don't know the answer to that yet. But we'll figure it out this season. But I agree, it's a lot easier. And then the MLB schedule fucking sucks. We have a game almost every day. Every day. It's awful. And they're just all crazy. Do you prefer the MLB or the NFL? NFL.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Okay, so let's tell the story of what you told me about my ex and what I told you about your ex the first time we met.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Everyone's talking about you. They wanna know who you're dating. They wanna know about your life. And I'm sitting here in your hometown of New Jersey, meeting your family, your parents, your siblings, and I'm like, What do you think that they think about all of this craziness?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Okay. Yes. So what is this? Like four months ago? Yeah. Four or five months ago. Okay. Alex and I go to a brunch together and we're like having Bloody Marys and we're like getting cozy talking to each other. And then finally, randomly, like you bring up one of your exes that played in the MLB.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Okay, so I remember... This is where I was like, wow, his type hasn't changed and he's really just still getting after that game. When I was in college, I remember he messaged me and any girl in Boston that had blonde hair, he would message. Oh, he messaged us after he won. He's in there. He's really active. He's determined. I tell Alex, I'm like, oh my God.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
So I remember your ex messaged me so often and like not to be a dick. And this is like me being the most surface level human being. But when you're in college, you're just looking for like the best time and like who can give you a good time. So like, if you're not on the actual MLB roster, if you're like down under, like in the, What is it called? The MLB and the... Minors. Minors.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
If you're down in the minors, you're literally living in dorm rooms. So not to be a dick, but I don't have interest in dating you because you're going through what the college guys are going through. So anyway, so he keeps messaging me, he keeps messaging my friends. And I'm pretty sure I messaged him back a few times, but I was always, because I wanted to get to his...
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
more interesting teammates and then whenever he would get sent down from the Yankees I would like stop answering then when he would come back up I'm like what's up today and so then finally I remember meeting you and being like Alex like I think it's for the best that you move on because he's just looking he's like almost like it's like he's obsessed looking for a girlfriend I was his like first girlfriend which I think also was another one of like maybe the big issues but like I was his first like serious girlfriend and like
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Right, like you were the first victim. And didn't he play on the same team as my ex or what was the story you told?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
And he's like, and I was like, well, it can give us like a little peace of mind, Alex, like for everyone shitting on us for our jobs, like to know that people in the MLB locker rooms are going to forever, maybe be chanting our names until they fucking retire, which I'm sure mine is like about to on his way out. He can't get a fucking contract, but, um,
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
It's not that I look, people just send me this shit. They're like, whoa, you're on your way up. He's on his way down. But it is funny to think that our exes cross paths. So now you're on to like a different experience. And listen, guys, we're like lightly talking shit. It's fun. Have you dated anyone in the NBA that we don't know about? No.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
And it's just sitting there in your DM still? Yes. Is he in a relationship now?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I don't know. Wait, I was going to ask because you said like in the beginning days of college, you weren't really like into the athletes. I'm like, so who the fuck was Alex Earl dating her freshman year of college?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Oh, does he like ever like try to clout chase and like say he dated you?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
So I was like, no, no. Is that embarrassed? Is it embarrassing? Like, is that one of the relationships you're like, please, I don't want like people to know about that.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
That's what I'm up to. You're sticking with him. Wait, can I ask you when you were in college, Did your, once you started to actually pop off, did your teachers ever fucking say anything to you? Like, did they know what was happening?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I love how, like, five minutes- I love, love, love it. You're like, I am obsessed when they treat me like absolute shit. And then also guys all in Miami taking notes right now.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I do. What are you? I'm a Sagittarius. What does that mean?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I'm curious, obviously, like this is not your home. This is your dad's house. You live in Miami. When you're in Miami, what do you miss most about being home in New Jersey?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Dude, I'm a Leo. I'm like, if I feel like I can dominate you, like, I will literally eat you alive and I will never speak to you again. Get out of here with that little fucking bitch boy energy.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Matt will always be like, oh, my God, like, you look so gorgeous in the beginning of our relationship. I would just be like, where are we going to dinner? And, like, completely almost, like, ignore.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Yeah, we fucking look amazing, bitch, obviously.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I'm also laughing as I'm thinking about that because I'm like, when someone says that to you, also I'm thinking like, I put a lot of fucking work into whatever I'm doing. If I'm going on a date, I should at least say thank you. Cause like, yeah, I did put in work. We should work on that. Okay, everybody listening and watching. You guys. Say thank you with confidence.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
We're going to just be like, thank you. Thank you so much. You look great too. Or if they don't look good, just don't say it back. But just be like, thank you. I think that's a good thing to work on. Okay, ready for this little flip flop? What is your most toxic trait?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Let them just keep getting that blue and they just like never get the answer.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Okay. Well, some people would say that's a superpower because I think a lot of girls are going to be like, Alex. So what's going on upstairs? Cause I need a little bit of that. When they slide in, I can't not say hi, even if they just fucked my best friend last week.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I get it. You're like, how do I explain this? Give the smile to the camera. Like, that's not someone I want to fuck, no. No, no, you're like, you're giving nothing but like, get the fuck out of my house. I get that. I also, ooh, is that what I should be doing right now? Alex said, I'm not gonna fuck that. Oh, do we have the same one? Okay, at least we have the same thing.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I've been like going slow because I'm like, I need to do my eyes. Oh, you're done. Okay, okay. I've been just going like this for a really long time. I've just been going like this. Okay, so this is the goal. I'm gonna finish because I was patting my face for so long. We're gonna go play a drinking game and we're gonna play truth or drink. Oh god.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I feel like you haven't had your fair share of let's let's know a little bit more about Alex and her sexual escapades and I feel like obviously this is call her daddy so we're gonna have a couple more drinks.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
We have nothing to wear. No, I think this, show the bodysuit to the camera. I mean, it looks good. You're nervous the nipple will come out? We censored it. Okay, we're gonna be back. We're gonna try on our outfits and then we'll come out. We're ready. Barely. Full mental breakdowns. We hate our outfits. Let's go. Okay. I am so fucking excited. Alex, we are going to play truth or drink. Okay.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Here we go. First, let's just start out with an easy, light little softball. When is the last time you blacked out? Like two weeks ago. What is your go-to drink? A vodka soda. Okay. What is your tolerance level? Like if we're going out tonight, what should I expect?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I think it's good that you drink too. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Okay. When is the last time that you drunk texted an ex?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Are you sending paragraphs or are you just like, hi?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I remember I used to just do like the peach emoji and then the phone. So like a booty call. And it just like, it usually worked, but like I wasn't happy in the morning, but I was happy I didn't send like a paragraph.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
yeah so okay you can like if it's short you shouldn't be that embarrassed if it's long just you know go to church and repent um how many guys did you fuck your freshman year of college
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
one and really only like frat guy i was like we gotta get out of here it didn't work okay too that's a good solid number um what is your total body count i'll drink with you know i'm just gonna drink for privacy but it's it's nothing like crazy i think that's fine okay who is your celebrity crush oh
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
So it used to be Zac Efron. Now it's Jacob Elordi. Okay, that's good. Who is your athlete crush?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
No, I love it. Okay. In the spirit of last night, maybe we'll bleep the name. Someone who ended things with you when you were still very into him. Fuck. Okay.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Sleuths go in. How many nudes have you taken in your life?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Don't come for me and be like, they're literally fire. Everyone's now, like, hacking. What is your best skill in the bedroom?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Fuck, marry, kill. Athlete edition. I can't say this seriously. Aaron Judge, Braxton Berrios, and Travis Kelsey.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I feel like I know all of you because I see all of you on TikTok. What's your name? My name's Penelope. Penelope.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Will you be attending any Dolphins games this season?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
do better do better for our girl okay tell the daddy gang a secret anything take your time oh my god a like a sexual secret maybe anything sexual maybe like a little fantasy or like a secret maybe something like you've tried that you're like oh i kind of liked it oh i have one oh
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
No, you know what I'm going to do? For the point that we just talked about this, I'm going to put little subcaptions of like, Earl family, like, mute this, and now unmute.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Is your orgasm better? Yes. I get it because it's like we aren't taught to do these things. But when you put it in there, it's kind of like a really good feeling. It is.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Why do you think I have no nails on? It's crazy when the daddy gang sees me with no claws. They're like, oh, so you're fingering Matt's asshole. I'm like, what? Sorry, Matt. So what finger are you using? I think my middle.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Yeah. When it airs, you're going to fling yourself off the balcony and be like, why did I do that? Okay. I am satisfied. We got a little bit of tea. There's obviously more to come. This is not the last time we're podcasting together, but this is just to like give everyone a little taste.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
And thank you for sharing with us because I know you've never really talked about your sex life, but obviously it's only appropriate that you do it here on call her daddy. We're going to go out tonight. Yes. We're going to party with all of our fans, all of our friends, all of our followers. We love you all. And I'm excited to see like, how does Alex Earl party in Miami?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
dog's out last dude i took my shoes off the minute we got there immediately her shoes come off i was like um we're giving them the recap i think that i have glass in my foot there is i don't this is a really gross i don't want you to have to get too close alex but i'm not lying when i say you know what is this going on what is this that's blood
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
like dried blood oh so i won't put them on your bed i'll just go like this um okay so last night we got fucking wild i got like really drunk i was also laughing so when we went to that dinner i turned to alex and alex was like oh like i can't tell if i'm getting tired and i was like Alex. That's when it all went downhill.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
This was like our first time ever going out together. It was. It was very fun partying with you. Yeah.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
You have... You I didn't tell I couldn't tell you were that fucked up.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Oh my God. Alex thought I was going to be a grandma. She went full force. Oh my God. Do you remember when the bouncer like caught my blimp body? So I'm fucking standing, jumping around, just like having the time of my life. And I don't know what happened, but at one point it was as if I was like,
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
literally about to belly flop onto the center table with all the drinks and everything and my body just like literally levitated over and i just started falling and randomly the bodyguard just comes in and with his arms like this i just do a plank onto his body as if i was going to crush the entire table and he just like picked me up and i turned around and matt was just like what the fuck
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I can't decide if I'm about to vomit or shit myself.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I think that we should go for a walk. How far is the beach from you?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
I'm just going to jump over the fucking bridge. Okay, yeah, I think we should go maybe get some coffee, more Pedialyte, and let's... You're like, oh, yeah, it's just right over there over that bridge.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Okay, guys, we're going to get our lives together. I'm going to clean my foot. I wonder if I can even stand. I can't really.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Okay, guys, we fucking lied. Alex and I are like, let's go walk. We went right back to bed. We went back to bed. It's now seven o'clock at night. So just pretend it's still the daytime. We're not degenerates. We're fine.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
So, Alex, I have to say, I have been having the most fun for the past 48 hours. Getting to live in your life has been so fucking cool, and it's been so fun getting to know you. I feel like, obviously, people on the internet look at you and are probably like, That girl doesn't have one problem in the world. She just gets to go party, have the best life, and that's it.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
And I think that's the beauty of podcasting is like we get to know you a little bit more. So in the spirit of getting vulnerable and podcasting, I want to ask you a few final questions before I leave you in Miami on your own. What is... is the hardest life lesson that you've had to learn?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
That is why I'm so happy that you're about to start this podcast, because I feel like there's a difference between like commenting back on a comment and being like, that's not true. But looking into a camera and being like, let me tell you guys the situation, what happened. And just like talking through something I think like is a way to actually connect with more people. Your podcast, Hot Mess.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
We both love our fans and our content and what we're doing. It's been cool to work with you and just be able to watch you about to literally kill it and people just be listening to you every week. I can't wait for you. I can't wait. So, Alex. Oh, this is sad. It's ending. I don't want to end it, but it feels like a really perfect ending to an incredible episode. I'm so excited. What?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
You're saying that it's a smart fridge? It's almost like a built-in iPad and all of your guys' nudes are on this fucking thing?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
so we're gonna get in the car we're gonna drive there immediately and we're gonna show up with the cameras and they're gonna be like what the fuck and we're like we're just i need you to distract them we should literally be like oh we're just filming for call her daddy yeah um i want to see your room can you guys show me the room they'll bring me into the room you go to the fucking fridge and delete that shit okay daddy gang one last adventure one more little hurrah with alex and i here we fucking go let's go all right let's just do it right now let's go
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Is this just a normal day at the Earl household?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
And I can't thank you guys enough because I literally wouldn't be here without you. So to my OG daddy gang, I love you. To the new people that have come along the way that have become daddy gang, I love you. And I have a feeling, just a little feeling, that maybe, probably, absolutely, this year, season four, is going to be the best yet.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Please, yes, I would love that. Oh my God. Okay. I'm watching your siblings and they're like, they are scrolling TikTok over there. And I'm thinking like, how does it make you feel that they are watching your content?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Okay. Well, Alex, I am so excited to go on this little adventure with you and get to really know you. We're in your hometown right now. So let's go see a couple places that are memorable and meaningful to you.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
That was good. See? Can you sing? What is it? I think I can impersonate. Okay. Like, if I was doing Christina Aguilera, it'd be like... But it's... But I can't... Are you kidding me?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
you know what why don't we try a different game she is a woman of many talents folks but it is not gonna be the carpool karaoke today we're gonna enter this town right now it's called bread bank okay here's our high school Obviously, so much has changed in your life since leaving this high school, leaving this town, moving to Miami, you know, becoming so well known.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
But it's interesting to meet your family, be in New Jersey. I feel like the world looks at your family and it looks like, you know, your mom and your stepmom are getting along. Everyone's drinking and partying and it looks like this unified family. And it wasn't always this family that was bonded together.
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Can you take me back to the moment when you were in second grade and your life essentially flipped upside down?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Because, as you know, on Call Her Daddy, we like to get into it, okay? Over the past few years, we really have gotten deep with every guest we've had on the show. And we've gotten to know so many people in really fun and intimate ways. Every episode, I feel like I actually get to know the person sitting across from me. I really get to know them. And based on my Instagram comments...
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Did you find out about like the news coverage and everything happening first? Or did you find out that your parents were getting a divorce first?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
When did you realize, because you were so young at this point, when did you realize that this scandal essentially was getting media coverage in the news?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
What were you mentally doing every day? You're going to school. How were you even comprehending this?
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Alix Earle: Secrets, Sex & Scandals (FBF)
Obviously, you're dealing with this at home, but when you talk about school, I can only imagine what you were dealing with. Obviously, parents talk, kids hear. What was the dynamic in school for you?
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
There's just so much comparison right now. And especially for women. It's just like...
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
Let's go! What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Sierra, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you for having me. I am so happy you're here. First of all, congrats on your pregnancy. Thank you. Talk to me. How far along are you?
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
Yeah. Right. Even also you saying earlier, you were like, I didn't even stop in moments because like when everything's going well, you just keep moving. And the hardest moments are the moments that you actually are hip checked with yourself to be like, whoa, first of all, so grateful for the good times. Yeah. Because this shit's rough right now. And you then gain that perspective. Yeah.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
I also think what you're saying about patience is really important, too, especially with people in this young generation. I feel it of like the patience of like the comparison is, oh, my God, that person got that job and I didn't get the job or I didn't get the thing I wanted. And it's like we're comparing ourselves to the person around us or our friends around us.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
Everything moves at a different pace. Yeah, it does. And the reason you didn't get that job is for a reason, because you're going to get another thing. I'm trying to tell you. It's hard.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
It's so true. And it's also like, like you said, like if someone pops off so fast and it's so different, like we don't know what they're going through. Maybe they're also really struggling. Like who the hell has popped off so fast and been like, mental health is at a hundred. It's not a thing.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
it is kind of about the process of like letting things play out then you appreciate it more you have more understanding of who you are as a human being when you go through more like you do you come out on top because you have learned experiences rather than just getting it all you're like oh this was easy yes Speaking of relationships, I want to talk to you about love and relationships.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
Obviously, you're married to Russell Wilson, the Denver Broncos quarterback. We love that for you. It's so cute to see. It seems like you guys have such a healthy and loving relationship. I see online people commenting like, Sierra, where do I find my Russell? Where do I find my couple goals? And
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
Obviously, in order to get to a healthy relationship, you gotta go through things before you get to that point. And I wanna talk to you a little bit about growing and learning and how you got to where you are now. Around the time that you met Russell, you were going through a really public and what looked like painful breakup.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
And I think about like leaving a relationship is so hard to make that decision, especially I'm assuming when you have a child. How did you know for yourself it was time to leave?
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
in any aspect of my life when you hear people talk about it it does seem like oh that's so simple but when you're in it it is like it's really hard to collect yourself when you're trying to leave something and you're like you're so used to something yeah even if it's toxic like i have women write into me sierra that are like it the fear of being alone sometimes is worse than the fear of staying in something toxic
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
And I feel like from my personal experience, I've been in some toxic relationships where...
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
it almost you can normalize it like when you're in it for long enough and i like that you spoke about it like there is a moment and and i pray for a lot of women listening like you catch that moment before it gets really detrimental to your own health but like there's that moment you know but for a while you can like have full blinders on and just not see it because it becomes so normalized i'm wondering like
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
when you were younger, like what is something that you now recognize is a red flag, but at the time you would either like ignore or maybe like turn away from?
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
Love hopes all things. Daddy gang, I am so excited for today's guest. Are you ready? Ciara is here. She is a Grammy award-winning triple platinum musician. She's also an entrepreneur, cover model, fashion icon, wife, mother. I mean, goddamn, is there anything that she doesn't do? I cannot wait to sit down with her and get to know her today.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
And yeah. And I love what you said about you and Russell. It's like, we're very similar in the way that we think and what we like and what we believe in. And like, of course, everyone's different. But when you find yourself trying to make something work so hard, and you're the one that's constantly forgiving or coming back.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
No, yeah, you're right. Don't be afraid of like the best part is leaving. The best part is getting out. The best part is finding yourself without that person. And obviously you now are in such a healthy relationship. It looks and I'm so happy for you. Just like even when you talk about him, I can just tell like.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
yeah like you're happy and so I also wonder like when you go into a healthy relationship I think sometimes it's so annoying but like sometimes we can't help but bring our baggage and our habits from our past relationships that we've had in our life like was there anything that you had to unlearn essentially when you got into your relationship with Russell leave it at the door
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
I am such a big fan and this year marks the 20th anniversary of your debut album, Goodies. It is crazy to think that because it's like you've just done so much in your career, but to think back to those OG days, I'm wondering like, what does it make you feel when you know that people 20 years later are still so obsessed, so in love with the original hits?
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
something like yeah do you know what i mean i know what you're saying too and i think it's important because obviously like you said which i love that you're explaining after a breakup of what you know you don't want anymore and you have that moment within yourself you quickly align of like whoa i gotta get my shit together like i didn't like how i felt i didn't like this this this this or i liked this and i want to bring this into my next relationship whatever it is but then when you meet that person especially when you've had maybe not like the healthiest of relationships before yeah
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
it's a feeling of like, you still have those like giddy butterflies, like we said, like you're drooling in the corner. But it's, there's a sense of like calmness. And I remember I felt it with my fiance because I, it was like,
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
he is kept it keeps me on my toes and it's so exciting but it's like safe and calm and i'm not insecure and i'm not like there's still that feeling of like oh you want to impress them and have fun but it's a different level of connection where you feel like you've known them for a long time yeah you know what i mean it is like there's something there that you're like whoa like your souls almost this is like corny but like it's like almost like you knew you were supposed to meet no 100
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
it's the two of you yeah even hearing you too like when he came over it wasn't just you like you had a son like you have a son you're like you're bringing someone into your life that now is not just going to be a relationship with yourself you need to also have a relationship with my son like how did he take on being a stepfather he jumped right in
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
We gotta know, Ciara. What? What is your favorite part about being married to a professional athlete?
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
But it's fun. I'm thinking of you saying you're also in the car with your babies. I'm like, do you play them your music? Do they know mom's music? Okay, when it's new.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
But also same with like Loki and BRB. I was like, okay. Like it's a vibe. And I wonder if Russell plays it in the car for the kids while you're not there.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
you know so like let's keep it real we know who we support in this family let's make sure we you know i love it yes it's really cute to eat because i'm sitting here and i'm like you've won a grammy he's won a super bowl like you guys are the ultimate power couple and i think a lot of people look at you guys and envy you obviously and it's like whoa their life is so amazing like
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
When you do go through the hard moments, how do you guys level set each other? What is the process of keeping each other grounded and keeping each other?
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
yeah and don't you like it too because it's different in that type of relationship where you know like you're you're both trying to come back together and like you guys have the same goal like no one's winning no we actually just have to hear each other understand it where in other relationships i've had it's like oh this is just an ego thing like i'm never gonna win because you aren't even listening to what i'm saying when you say the word toxic it kind of rings a certain way for me because like i said you earlier i'm like toxic things can
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
You have this great relationship now knowing the relationships you've had in the past of like, sometimes you got to go through the bad to get to the good, like we said.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
So it is exciting for, I think, for women listening of like, oh, like even if you're in the trenches right now listening to this and you're not in a healthy relationship or you're not feeling good about yourself or it's an abusive situation, whatever you're in, like you can get out and you can find happiness and you can find what you deserve. But again, patience, like give yourself some grace.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
100 but it is nice to hear from you of like it can happen it can happen baby let's talk about your music though because like i said we were all jamming to it in the office say we were just like laughing we were blasting it we're like how creepy if she like rolls up and we're just like screaming your music but now i'm like i think you would have liked it it would be kind of fun i might jump in and dance with you hey your epcc i need to understand yeah
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
Who is Cece? Who is Ciara? Talk about the two.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
picking my nose and like getting on Accutane. And I was like, oh shit, like, damn, like, were you always that ambitious and were your parents like go Sierra or were there ever like, oh my God, slow down, like chill. You don't need to be doing all this at this young of an age.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
It's just like a little bit more of like a vibe.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
What do you want people to feel when they're listening to this music? Is there a specific place you envision people listening to it?
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
No, when I was listening to it, I was like, oh my gosh, like this is like really like all about how in love with you are. And I love it.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
Yeah. You now being able to do things on your own and figure out what you want to continue to sound like as your career continues to grow and expand. Yeah. It's just...
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
truly was such an honor sitting with you today because like you are such an accomplished woman and and sitting with you and getting any of the wisdom we can get from you today sierra i know i'm like i'm taking it in no i'm like everyone's writing notes like you're just such an inspiration and it's really surreal for me to sit down with you today because i'm such a fan and thank you thank you thank you and congrats on your baby thank you so happy you're expanding the family maybe we'll see a number five at one point
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
Just a couple. Yeah. Yeah. You've done so much in your career when you reflect on your career. And I know this is kind of hard to answer, but like what is the most iconic moment in your mind of your career?
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
yeah i feel like it was something that like everyone will always remember like it fashion wise music wise like as a woman like it was just so iconic i remember when it came out i like still listen to it to this day i remember making up also like oh my god and then when one two step came out and i was like making up the like most awkward dances like with my friends thinking we're like hot shit like it wasn't hot just to clarify it was not as hot as you i know it's cute no okay but um
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
I just think about you at that young age though, and I'm curious if you can take me back a little bit to what was life like? You're coming out with music, you're rising to fame, and you're only 18 years old. What was your life like at that time?
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
I relate in some ways that have just being like, so open.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
yeah like headstrong and like i know what i'm doing like i'm gonna make it i'm gonna make this happen sometimes i've experienced though you almost struggle to pause and be happy for yourself in a moment of like oh shit like i did this yeah do you have a moment in your career at that young age where you were able to stop and be like oh damn like i made it like that one i made it moment do you remember that i think maybe a small blip of that was winning a grammy
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
I remember being so obsessed with her music when I was younger, fully had a dance routine to one, two step. I still remember the choreography to this day. Maybe I will have to show her my dance moves. She like fully leaves and walks out. She's like, you're so bad. No, but in all honesty, you guys, if you think about it, in her two decade long career, Ciara has seen ups and downs, but...
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
Hearing you, obviously, you're such a savvy businesswoman. I'm just sitting here thinking of you because your career started so young. What was the hardest business lesson that you had to learn early on?
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
famous and pictures and everything. Where did you find your center core?
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
our girls always come out on top. And daddy gang, we're getting into it today. We are gonna discuss toxic relationships, knowing your worth, leveling up in all aspects of life. This episode is going to be, I already know it, full of wisdom and advice and just things that are gonna make you feel good, okay? So come hang out with me and Ciara. Ciara! This is, she's like, I'm not coming in now.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
I appreciate you sharing that because, again, obviously most people that are going to listen, they can't relate to maybe some parts of your life. But that's some of the most relatable shit is making sure that you have good people around you. And actually people that you trust.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
And it doesn't have to be a lot of people, but I think if you don't have good people, you can lose your way because then you're potentially hanging out with people that could sway you or you don't trust. And then you have trust issues. It's like making sure you know people are there for the right reasons, which sometimes you can't. You have to just trust.
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
you even see some celebrities and you can tell like the people that maybe don't have people with the right intentions in their camp. Because it's like, of course, like you guys at some point can be just reduced to like an object of like, go here, go here, go here. We're all making money off of you. And at some point you have to decide like,
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
you're the one that keeps it all moving so you have to advocate for yourself in some capacity like keep those people that actually have the right intentions and the right like they want the best for you and that's hard though it is it's hard but you know my thing is it's like there's a lot in the bible it talks about what good is it for a man to gain the world and lose his soul
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
Right, imagine it all comes down, we pray we all get to 80, 90, and you're like, I did it for all, I got no one around me. I got nothing that I, I don't even know who the hell I am. I'm glad I got the Grammys and the awards and the albums, but like, who am I?
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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
Because you can lose yourself. It's so true. And I appreciate you saying that because it's like, I feel like we right now, our culture is very like, go, go, go. You want more. We want the coolest fashion. We want money. We want success. We want the big cars and the houses and the cool things. And if you don't have it, then you're a loser and you're not as cool.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Can you imagine if you had gotten Friday Night Lights? That is interesting.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Either like you playing football or you being like trust fund Mr. Suave in New York City.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
I feel like that fit you well. Not that you could have done football. OK, I want you to know I would have accepted that role, too. But I think it was meant to be.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
OK, wait. So you got denied by a girl. Did you ever go to prom?
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
How did you do a promposal? Come on.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
What a great point.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Do you remember the first time you drank?
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
You're not even fucking tipsy, but you're like, guys, things are really starting to feel different. Nothing is different. We're just driving and it's moving a little bit. Calm the fuck down. Exactly. Wow. OK, so like you had like an OK experience because I feel like to say that you had that for your first drink.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Like I was like going into my parents liquor cabinet and like grabbing like a disgusting brandy and like holding my nose and like vomiting back into the bottle and just trying to get a couple of steps. You had a nice little Mike's.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
What the fuck? What the fuck? I was so awkward. You were an Abercrombie and Fitch boy?
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
You still had to be hot. You still had to be hot and cool. You still had to have a thing going.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
How, okay, to all the Gen Z people that are listening that may have like no idea about the 2000s Abercrombie craze, can you just describe what it was like to work there?
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
I mean, you were never one of those.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Oh, it was like you because we got like a little bit of penis lines going on, like the boy's side and like the girl's side was like these abs. And I was like, I literally don't even have tits right now.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
And the smell. I was thinking about it, though. Like Hollister was 10 times worse because you had to walk in there with a flashlight. They turned all the lights off and it was like a madhouse, like and you're literally like grabbing clothes and you're just checking out. It was awful.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Chase, you had, you are like that guy, the guy that just like worked at Abercrombie and Hollister.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
It was cool back then.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
It's not, it's not embarrassing.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
It's cool. Because back at the, in the day, like I feel like half the time I would walk in that store and that was like maybe my sexual awakening being like, whoa, like these boys are like so gorgeous. Again, like you said, 25 year old men. And it was, I think it was like a whole experience that back in the day, like that was the coolest thing going. Now we don't even have malls anymore.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
We're talking about Gossip Girl again.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
The audition process. I think it's fascinating to think about, like, you obviously don't get Friday Night Lights. And then you go for this. Like, what does that even entail? Like, how long was it? Did you even know what the show really was going to be?
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
and so uh anyway so i i did that i was like i don't know if it went well and i guess i got the call so i got it so that is i love also how you just like knew layton also she was so fucking perfect for that part like no one else could have she had the headband on the audition she flipped around like and i think i'm in love with you literally you're like i love you and then america was like i love you too yeah yeah yeah did you always know you were going in for nate yeah
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
I am so excited to meet you. Okay, you have to tell a little bit of the backstory, though, because you were just telling me downstairs that you kind of were a fan and, like, I need to hype myself up.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
I think it's just so fascinating because I've heard some people go in for someone and they get switched. But, like... When I think of Nate, your character like had a very different upbringing than like what you were used to. Like when you first started filming, could you relate to anything about this person?
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
so you know but they they were somehow supportive they shockingly because i didn't think they would be right my dad being a doctor and whatnot so i was gonna say because i remember pepperdine when i was picking schools i remember looking it up because i was like so fascinated with california and i look at pepperdine i'm like this looks like the most magical place on earth yeah and then i was reading and my mom was like sweetie you can't drink if you go to the school why am i bringing that up to you i don't know didn't know that by the way till i got there i didn't know how strict it was because
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
That is like notoriously one of the strictest schools. Like you can't drink. Oh, yeah. You can't have co-ed.
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Did you do anything that like broke the rules your freshman year?
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It's so fascinating to think about you in college doing one year and then dropping out and going to Gossip Girl. Do you think that like anyone in your hometown was surprised to see that success or was everyone like, oh, it's Chase?
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They had no clue you'd be doing that.
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Did you have like random people reach out? I feel like all those people start kind of like crawling.
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You're like, wait a second. We did go to high school together and you never talked to me. Why are you texting me?
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How do you actually have my number?
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When did it get like really big? After season one, it kind of just popped, right?
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Do you have a moment that you remember that you were like, oh my God, my life has like forever changed?
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It was just like a great- You're just being like normal dudes, like sitting, chilling. And then it's like, hello?
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As it like really started to pop off, like how did you initially handle that like fame and attention? Yeah.
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Like, that doesn't mean you're not so grateful for everything that came, but it's like a very odd experience as a human being to be like, Oh, all those people are staring at me right now and watching me and they know who I am. And I have no idea who these people are.
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And you're like, I'm not Nate Archibald as much as you want me to be. I am not. My name is Chase. I'm from Texas.
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Wait, that's so weird. Can we talk about that for a minute? Because I didn't even think about that. Most shows that are like, even movies, if they're like set in New York, spoiler, they're not fucking shot in New York. Most of them are shot in Canada.
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you guys actually were living breathing filming shooting in new york city the show was set in new york city so like you're walking then to get breakfast and you're not working but you're like walking wherever you're walking and someone sees you like were people calling you nate on the street all the time that was it that was always it was always the character's name yeah yeah yeah it was crazy and also fun but like it was it blurs the lines a lot you know and and uh
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And it's also weird to be in New York city as you, like, I think it's interesting because I just asked you at the beginning of this, like, oh, could you relate to anything? You're from Texas, this character. And you're like, no.
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And then all of a sudden you went from not being able to relate to anything about this character to like, you almost were becoming a part of this character was getting- It was pretty meta.
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You're like, I live in New York City. I am getting paparazzi. People want to know who I'm dating. And so I started off being like, I can't relate to this fucking kid at all. And now it's like-
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But that's the thing about New York. Don't you feel like when you visit New York, it's so overwhelming. You get sent to the touristy spots where you're like, Times Square. And it's like all the places that if you live there, you would never go. Then when you live there, you like find the pockets and you're like, this is the best place. This is the best place ever.
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So you're friends with Ed. You guys live together. Like, I'm obsessed that you guys were roommates. I didn't know that until I was like doing research for this where I'm like, I didn't know you guys fucking lived together.
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What was Ed's best and worst quality as a roommate?
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What was Ed's best and worst quality as a roommate?
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Oh, so him, he's literally like an ashtray walking around. You're like, clean up, clean up, clean up.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Your character was too laissez-faire. You wouldn't have time to get on your computer and type away.
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Is he going to be introverted? Would you say in your life you're an extroverted person?
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Yeah, I kind of always thought of Nate as just kind of like go with the flow. Although I hate when you hooked up with that older woman. I didn't like that era. I didn't love that. But I liked when you and Serena were together. Yeah, yeah. The white party, the kiss to make everyone jealous.
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You don't even want to know how much of a fan I am. When it ends, I think I've talked a lot about with people when they're actors of like, understandably, there's this fan base that is like, don't you fucking dare say you weren't sad to see it end. But most people are like, I got to move on with my fucking life. It's time to go. Like, how did you feel when it all was ending? Were you like...
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So what kind of dog do you have?
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let's fucking go.
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But you went back to L.A.
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So talk to me about your state of depression. I can imagine it's like kind of an identity crisis, right?
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Oh, my God. I'm judging you so hard.
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And I feel like also, I mean, wait, how long was Gossip Girl? How many years?
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That's like a long ass time to be in something like at what, like towards the end of the last year, you guys knew it was ending, right?
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But you still have to start to, it doesn't probably feel real until it's over. And that's almost like a college experience plus more to be with people. And then like, do you keep in touch with anyone?
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No, that's fucking bullshit. Wait, that's like a full problem when you meet someone new and you have to be like, this is like our child.
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Do you think you'd ever go back?
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I have thought about it, but it's weird because like, you're right. You hit a certain point where like New York is so beautiful when you're in your twenties. Yeah. And it's even when I look back, like I had the, like this shitty ass apartment where there were like fucking rats. And I had, I had the ed room where like my two roommates got to have like the normal rooms.
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And then we like, there was like a built wall for me. And I'm like just putting a mattress in, I could barely fit. And it was some of the best years of my life. But now when I think about going back to New York, like I like, like a backyard and like being relaxed and like not having to like walk outside and get like hit in the head and like push to the ground and like screaming people. I'm like,
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Let's talk about your love life.
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Are you in a relationship?
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What's going on? What is your type?
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It is fucking tough. It is tough.
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What's going on? You're very single. Are you going on any dates? What are we doing?
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I was on Raya. But the problem for a lot of, I feel like the women, is the guys are very... I don't know. Like a lot of them are DJs.
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I don't, I'm not looking for like, I wasn't looking for a spin the beats guy.
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A lot of them like lived in Australia or it would be like UK. And I'm like, can I set my settings closer? Like I don't want to go on my first date across the fucking world. Yes. So it was a little bit of like a proximity thing, a little bit of like a, And intimidation thing, too, because like the other dating apps is like, oh, this is like a nice, normal person.
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This is like, who are you and like, what do you do for a living? And like everyone's net worth. And you're like, I'm just it's overwhelming.
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So I could see why you have a hard time getting off the app for that.
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That is actually mentally insane.
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I remember there was this one guy that I remember I like randomly matched with. And I think he was on like, he was on, you know, he was on, what was it called? Oh, Vampire Diaries. And I remember being like, I'm a big fan of Vampire Diaries. And so I'm like, oh, and it's like, he's shooting in Toronto. And I was like, well, I live in New York City. New York's close by, yeah.
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but you're still like am i getting on a plane to see this man yes no yes no you're like yeah no maybe but yeah barrier to entry i'm like you ever in new york he's like you ever in toronto i'm like no unmatched bye but i'll watch next season like great talk it sucks it sucks you're gonna figure it out i know you're gonna figure out yeah do you consider yourself a romantic uh i do a little bit yeah yeah i mean what would you consider romantic i think someone that like
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So you have to see her constantly, right?
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When you're in a relationship, you're like very – like you like to set it up for this like very romantic setting of like you're not just like walking through the process. It's like candles and roses and you want to like make time together and you're very like, I don't know, sweet and cute.
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How are your first dates? Are you good at first dates, bad at first dates?
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I feel like first dates, you know, that you like the person if it feels less like an interview and you're like, Oh, we're making like headway. Like no first date is going to be like, this is like the fucking best thing ever. Like I would hope there's room to grow and get better. But some first dates are like 10 minutes in and I'm like, I got to fucking go.
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Do you just say the whole time?
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No, that would be fucked. And then someone would like write online about you being like, he's the biggest fucking douche.
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Well, because part of it is like you could be respectful and be like, I literally, I know this is not right. Let's just like not waste each other's time. But some people would be like, you fucking piece of shit. Fuck you. And then you're like, oh, I don't want to be a dick. Have you been in love before?
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That is interesting where you like, Oh, that's such a good point where you like, look back at it. And you recognize who you were compared to who you are in the reflection stage where you're like, oh, my God, imagine how different I would have been even if I was me in that relationship now.
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Probably would have been fucking prospering and happy.
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Oh, and that's a really interesting topic because I, That means you're growing, obviously. But I think that when you have your own shit going on, there's no fucking way that you can be like 100% present for a partner. That's hard to do even when you're in a fucking healthy relationship.
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So imagine you're in there on a date with the dog and she comes to pick it up and has the key. You have to describe that to new women. Listen, it's nothing other than just for the dog's happiness. We share her.
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No, it's okay. It's okay. I'm just fascinated. Like, oh, how would that work?
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But so you kind of fell for a girl after that weird moment, and then it just didn't work because you weren't in a good headspace. Yeah.
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But I think it also allows you like into going into this next chapter of like whoever you're going to find, like that allows you then to like reflect and be like, I know I'm not going to do that. I'm going to be more present and like whatever you know you fucked up on, then you take that and like move on.
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How long has been your like longest relationship?
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about three four years okay probably yeah yeah what are the top like three qualities right now that you'd be saying you're like looking in for a partner we can put this on your riot profile too like just clip this and put this very sparse my ride profile i think i think every photo is cut like cut off like i'm like eyeball like i'm like i'm not screwing with it i don't even care i'm like whatever you know what i mean
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It's just like picture of dog, dog, dog, half face.
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Right, because you're hoping they like won't fully notice you and then they just click. So like the dog is nice or something and it's not like, I get it, I get it, I get it.
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Do you care if they're in the industry?
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What if a girl said, I can't do this unless you guys give up the dog?
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You're like, I want... I want that doctor, that nurse, the dentist.
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What about a therapist?
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Right now to my girlfriend. Yeah. What's a deal breaker for you?
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Bad tats? Like how bad? Like what have you seen that you haven't liked?
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You're not, you're not loving the neck tats. Have you gone on a date recently?
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Where did that come from? I don't know. He's like picturing your face and you're like, just if there's a neck tat. Okay, no neck tats.
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it's okay a necktie we're moving on punctuality too okay that's really switching gears you are really on time you were early i'm like a little bit early embarrassingly yeah you're like at the door like yeah hi ready to go it's like an anxiety thing i like if i'm running late it's it's over i can't i hate being late down you know oh i've had people so fucking late for the show so i appreciate that you're early i'm like let's get it going so thank you thank you have you ever been cheated on
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face oh my god i mean i'm not even kidding i will i will die for that dog i i'm a dog mom that's how that happens they get you like that they really i get it i get it how would your friends describe you to like someone that they wanted to set you up with like how are your friends describing you oh i don't know that's a very good question uh
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Oh, that's sad. But then it like, you know.
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Well, and I think it also tells you something about that person.
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We're like, oh, you were basically with me.
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But that can hurt if she goes from you to Brad. Yeah, yeah. You're like, I get it. But it also indicates what you're looking for.
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Have you ever gone through a partner's phone?
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She's like fully cheating on you.
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Have you ever walked in on someone going through your phone?
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Did you walk in on them going through it or you found out?
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And in the middle of the night that like the ambush of like wake up and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You're like, you piece of shit. And then you're like, what's happening? And at first you're like, someone's coming into the room. There's someone in the house. What's happening? And they're like, and then they're like, I had your phone.
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Interesting. Did you say with the person?
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How much longer did that last?
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Did you hear about that incident a lot?
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No relationship is perfect. And I actually had a couple's therapist on the other week and she was just talking to me about like, it's so weird that now we've like normalized therapy, but couples therapy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, what's wrong with you? And I'm like, who doesn't fight in a relationship? Who doesn't have problems? Who does it? Like no relationship is perfect.
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So it's almost like I commend the people that are honest about it. Like I had said, like I went to couples therapy and it was like the best thing for my partner and I, where I was like, yes, I feel so much.
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Okay, let's talk about your show. Obviously, I'm like, we're talking about Gossip Girl.
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But obviously, we just had to get through the OG shit.
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Your show, I'm obsessed with the fact that you went from a man who was dressing like this like uppery cider, this like kid with a trust fund to a superhero. Are you loving it? Like being in the one costume the whole time? Because I feel like a whole part of Gossip Girl was your outfits. Right.
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What happened with the whole penis? Dick thing? What happened with the whole penis situation?
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Tell everyone the story.
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You're like, really?
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I think that's a good sign, though. I think if you treat a woman really well in person and then sometimes you're not a bad texter but you're open about it, that's okay. Matt, my partner, my husband, is not... He is not a good texter at all. In the beginning days, I was like, does he fucking hate me?
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I mean, you're right. It was great PR because like everyone was talking about it. It was like, oh, my God, look at this penis. Like what is happening with this like big schlong?
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So you're loving it. You're having a good time.
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So what was that audition process like?
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You like, don't think you're getting it.
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But now I know I like appreciate it that he's not on his phone 24-7 being one of those freaks. Like, are you on your phone though 24-7? You're just not texting back?
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completely waking up like what if i get this job so yeah it was a very quick like week-long process well it's fun to see you obviously like back on screen and i feel like you yeah your character is like quite hilarious like it's so funny to see you in such a different light obviously because of like the gossip girl ogs that like will follow you to whatever you do it's such a departure from that that i kind of love that though because i think you needed to do that
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So, um, what are you doing this summer?
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I think it's like a little.
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We're like, no, you guys go do your thing. We'll be here. No, I think Italy is amazing. I think like the vibe is to not go in the summer.
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And it's probably not as expensive, but there's also not as many people there. Right. We're convincing ourselves why it's good that we're not in like Comfrey. We're like, it's fine. We're going to Tahoe. Okay. Okay. So you're going on some trips. Wait, I didn't realize your sister is married to Tony Romo.
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That's kind of fun.
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Do your parents fucking love that?
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I am so happy that you came on. I think you're such a great, cool guy. I really had no idea what to expect, if I'm honest. I was like, is he going to be a little stiff? Because I've never really seen you do that many interviews. Right, yeah. You don't do much.
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They all make for incredible mixers, but today we're using orange hibiscus. Let's go. So first we're gonna start with an orange. I am going to cut a slice and we are going to put it at the bottom of the drink so we can get even more of these natural flavors into Now, Alex, let's think to ourselves why you don't cook or you never really enter the kitchen. This isn't gonna work.
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Let me do that again. Let me cut a little bit of a smaller piece. One sec, one sec, one sec. Honestly, it feels right that I get to finally have my Kendall Jenner moment. I sliced my entire hand off. Okay, so I'm gonna put this at the bottom of my cup. I'm just going to kind of push out the natural flavors, you guys, okay? Because if I'm making you a cocktail, I'm going in.
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I'm putting the grit in there. I'm gonna take the peel out, leave a little bit of the juice and the remnants. Let's have a taste. Yeah, it's delicious. One day I'll be a soccer mom bringing the orange slices. Boy, isn't it so good? Okay, anyways, next, ice. I love a cold, cold, cold cocktail. Here's the thing, I was a bartender, but I never weirdly ended up hooking up with a bartender.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
I did hook up with the boss, but that's for another time. Okay, so we're gonna do two ounces of Patron Reposado. We're gonna pour this into our cup here.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
gorgeous and then we are going to add orange hibiscus matt and i have been drinking this drink kind of every time before we go out on like a weekend ladies if you are getting ready and you're going on a first date and you need a good cocktail this is the go-to if you're coming home from a date and you're crying your eyes out this is the cocktail for you i'm gonna make it gorgeous girls oh
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
would you just look at that a cocktail a stiffy oh my god that looks so cute this has been my go-to on date nights before i go out we're making this up i'm drinking it by the pool it's about to be summer whether you're going on date nights or you're going out with your girls this is the perfect perfect cocktail i personally love reposado obviously you can switch it up patron has reposado they have an aho they have blanco but i'm kind of a reposado girl so
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Look how cute. And it's literally so easy. It's only two ingredients. You also don't need to go get a real orange. This does the trick, ladies. Here's the thing, whenever I come home from work, I'm constantly wanting just like a nice little nightcap. And I feel like drinking with unwell hydration. I wake up in the morning and I'm ready for my 8 a.m. meeting. Nothing can take me down. Gorgeous.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
So Daddy Gang, thank you so much for making this cocktail with Patron and me. Cheers. Matt's going to go home and be like, thanks babe. I'm actually so excited because Matt's about to be home and he's going to be like, did you do this for me? I'm like, no, it's actually for the daddy gang. But like, yeah, we'll just pretend that I'm being like the sweetest wife being like, babe, you're home.
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I made you a cocktail. I'll make him another one. Come on. The perfect way to enjoy Patron is responsibly. Copyright 2025. Imported by the Patron Spirits Company. Coral Gables Florida Tequila. 40% ABV.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
You've gotten better.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
We love a vulnerable man that can tap into his emotions and his feelings.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
What are you doing on a Saturday night with your friends?
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Are you getting annoyed when you're out? Are you getting noticed all the time everywhere you go?
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
female is always like so excited so it's so i do get it sometimes in more touristy spots like venice or in new york or somewhere kind of there's more people from all over the place yeah but it's fun that you have like a good attitude about it because i can imagine like i've i've talked to people before on my show about like people that are have done so much in their career but there's this one thing that people are like we just can't get past it like for you it's gossip girl for like other
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Oh, my God. For other people, it's like the O.C. Like I know you've talked talking like Rachel Bilson. Like totally. It's like she's done so much in her career. But there's the one thing that people like, can we just talk about this for 19 hours? And it's like you can either just be positive about it or like fucking hate it. But like it's what made you super famous.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
And it's kind of fun for all of us to like indulge a little bit.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
I was in New York right...
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
I'm like a little younger so I was like yeah New York for me was just as crazy but like I had my fucking iPhone and it wasn't as fun like I remember college more when I was watching Gossip Girl on like high school I was like obsessed with it because I grew up on the east coast I like knew the nature of New York City but I was not I'm what didn't come from like a wealthy family so like the con I
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
I was like with the fucking Humphreys. I would have been down in like- I mean, even the Humphreys are in this like loft space.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
I can't afford shit.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
What the fuck? My first apartment in York City was quite literally a shoebox. And I'm like, yeah, it's not looking so glamorous. But you still go out and you can still go to the similar places. That's what I love about New York is like- Yeah. You can go to where DiCaprio is or whoever the fuck. And New York is cool like that where LA is a little bit more snooty where it's like-
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
You can't get in here. Where in New York, it's like anyone can get in anywhere.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
We're going to talk a little bit more obviously about Gossip Girl at some point. But I do want to talk to you about your childhood because obviously you're this like you became this heartthrob. Your life changed, I think, around like 22 ish was Gossip Girl.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
So like before that, like how would you describe your childhood?
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Oh, you were all the way back in like the blowjob tips. Like you were.
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Were you raised religious?
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
It was tough because, obviously, I can't imagine being from the South and being raised religious. Like, I was raised Catholic every single Sunday going to church, and I was from Pennsylvania, so it wasn't, like, probably as intense maybe as, like, adding on the South.
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But it was just...
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
confusing because i always felt more like pulled to the arts and like pulled to these things that just like weren't as traditional me too right yeah and so you just kind of feel like a fucking weirdo and you feel like art naturally like pushes the boundaries on conversations right and when you're raised religious it's a little bit like what are you doing here like you're like coloring outside the lines and if you were raised in los angeles it's like
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Go, sweetie. You're doing great. So it's just a matter of where you were raised. Was it hard for you? When did you know you wanted to get into the arts?
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
You're giving everyone that like the information that the world needs. It's the hard hitting facts. I appreciate you sharing that. Also picturing you like walking your dog being like. That was like the funniest shit in the OG days when it was so graphic that people would be like, my AirPods got disconnected, I'm at work. And it's like, you have to suck the living shit out of it.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Yeah, I think that's kind of normal, though. I feel like boys either are just like so outgoing and loud and like kind of annoying as shit.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Or there's like the little artsy guys that like blossom eventually.
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What were your friends like?
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Oh, my God. And you must have been like wanting that, too, because being from Texas, that kind of went like a full circle fun moment.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
So you didn't get it in real life and you didn't get an acting.
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Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Tell me about golf. Because I'm going to be honest, when I think back to high school and I think about the guys, I'm not gravitating toward the golfers. However, I feel like they figured. No, listen. Now, in hindsight, if I have a son one day, I'm like, get your fucking ass into golf. Right, right.
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And she's like, fucking shit.
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Those are the guys that, like, get the scholarships and are smart and have their life figured out and just, like, look put together. Where, like, the meatheads, like, God bless them, but, like, where are they today?
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How did your parents react when you told them? And also like, how do you sit your parents down for that? Like is that after the dinner table? Is it a phone call? Is it a FaceTime?
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OK, tell me about your outfit. How did you pick this outfit? We're loving it.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
That's a good point. And it also sucks. It's so crazy to think that your first fucking acting job is Euphoria. That is so baller. But it's also like, I get what you're saying. If your family doesn't come from the industry at all, There's also this, like, natural judgment of, like, are you about to fuck your life up?
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Like, oh, my God, are you making the biggest, like, decision that is going to, like, ruin your whole life? Exactly. Where, like, other people that may be, like, are you more used to it? It's, like, this is how it goes.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
You're like, oh my God. It's almost like when you watch a movie with your parents that has a sex scene when you're young and you're like, um, and you're pretending you're like going to get your ice cream at the time because it's so awkward. Meanwhile, you're like, so that's me.
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And I can't run away from this. Oh my God. God bless you. Honestly. Like that is strength within strength. It's so nuts. It's so nuts. I'm curious, though, when you were talking about kind of closing out that like chapter of middle school, obviously everyone needs a fucking outlet of like I am dealing with all this shit. Yeah. Like I remember reading like you said you journaled.
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I don't know if it was in middle school. But what did you do to like feel less alone with all these thoughts?
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hard in general being a child but like at that point it just sucks because like there are so many kids that get to live their life and be like not having to escape and get to like go to the fucking playground and like frolic around you being like I was trying to like use this as an escape so I didn't have to like deal with like what the fuck was going on reality yeah then you
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It's, like, the concept, like, when you say that, like, to actualize it. Yeah. Like, people have a hard time, especially because, like, you're saying, like, no one around you guys, like, you could relate to. Yeah. So you're coming to your parents with this information. And, like, obviously some parents are fucking awful when it comes to this. But it sounds like your parents... They came along.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Right. They were just like, I don't understand what you mean.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
shit okay this is this is like we got to figure this out you know right and that's what's like so heartbreaking for houses that like don't accept their child because it's like yeah
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
like let them be who they need to be because you're right like you're becoming a shell of a person because you're not like who you authentically know you need to be inside yeah and everything is telling you one thing and then everyone is like no no don't do that well I think it's out of love like I think it's like you know and I think it's like my parents first reaction where was was like that because like they love me they want me to be okay and I'm
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
It's really cute. And I'm happy that you're comfortable. And that is the key here. Like coziness.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
I love about you and like even sitting here, your energy is just like so incredible. And I think back to like younger you obviously like going through it, but like what kind of like,
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
face cracked me like that interview impacted me so much and also i lived for her outfit for her give with the with the oh my god it was so incredible because i remember like you're kind of talking like similar with like rue like presents a specific way and has these like cunt outfits that you're like this is what i'm talking about yes and i remember when rue showed up i was like oh my gosh and i remember the rep was like no rue really wanted to show up today just as like
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
yeah it's I'm so thankful for it you know first of all like thank you for sharing all that because I I know it's personal and I really appreciate you opening up because like when you're saying the intuition thing within yourself it almost like made me cry because I'm like that is so fucking real yeah and so many people watching this are probably gonna like that's why I want to share this it's incredible yeah and like just sharing your experience like that is like
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
so powerful to be like lean the fuck into what you feel stop listening to what everyone else is saying i know it's so fucking hard yeah but when you can start to channel that like we all know what's best for ourselves exactly no one else does and you can even like you it's so weird like your layers of like consciousness and everything because you can totally on surface level be telling yourself something is right for you
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
I also appreciate like as we're kind of just going through your life. I wonder and you don't need to answer but like is it annoying sometimes because like a part of a big part of your life is like this this moment that you realize like oh like I don't know if I'm like happy with the way that I was like born and I want to be this way and like I'm so happy with myself now but like.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Is it annoying when you're in interviews? I've talked about this before. Because I didn't want to ask you about it. That's why I was like, oh, we got to high school in your life. What happened in high school? I would ask anyone on the show. I hope you know. You can talk about it as much or not as much as you want. But are you like, can we move on? I'm this cute girl.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
But do you ever feel exhausted from that? Like it's not your fucking job to educate people?
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
like what the fuck are we talking about yeah no i i respect that and i just wanted to hear from you because i bet it's fucking annoying speaking of high school yeah did you like dabble with drugs and alcohol at all were you like pretty clean like so and that's something that i think the the church thing that i'm
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Okay, let's talk about Euphoria. Okay. I think I read somewhere, but, like, I don't know if you've ever actually, like, told the whole story, like, on a show where I can hear you. Yeah. Tell me the story of how you got the role and, like, how it all came to be.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
it's so crazy that like you had no interest in fame. And obviously like, I'm assuming like once you took the show, you guys didn't know it was going to be like what it was going to be.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
No, it's so interesting you say that because I... people always say, like, oh, people think they want fame and money, but if you just hand them money, then they actually don't even need the fame. That part.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
well and I appreciate you sharing like you're like I'm a socially anxious person so like naturally this isn't something that I'm like let's go like how do you in moments where your life is feeling too Hollywood like how do you come back to being like Hunter yourself not yeah Hunter Schafer like Prada, Vogue, all the things.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
like priceless yeah that's amazing that you've like been able to figure that out pretty quickly because that takes some people like a really long time it was not quick right okay well even though like you don't think it's quick some people literally get to the point where like at the end of their career they're like i should have like disconnected more and i do think thank god you have your friends and family that are like you're hunty bitch don't forget it okay we're gonna treat you like you're just hunty and you're not hunter shaffer we're not gonna treat you different exactly you
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Cause like back in the day. Your husband is, you let your husband do it? No, no. I know this sounds insane Hunter, but like Matt has incredible taste. He has like perfect taste. And I'm like, now I just let him do his thing because I'm going to be honest. I decorated my first New York city apartment where I first lived alone for the first time ever. And I was like, watch me, bitch.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
clearly like you were obviously so close when you even talked about the cast I'm just so sorry because like when you talk about like this rise like this is this became like your family yeah like these are people that you were like fuck I don't know how to handle this none of us know how to handle this let's all lean on each other so like I can't imagine and I'm so sorry and like thank you there is no right or wrong whether you guys come back or don't like it's been one of the most incredible rides yeah you guys have done such an incredible job and like
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Thank you for giving your life to something that has, like, really brought so many people, like, entertainment and happiness. And, like, there's a lot of themes that I think people have, like, loved that are very progressive and have just, like, helped a lot of people. So whether it comes back or not, we love you all. Thank you.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
of course in it girl it's it's crazy grief is a motherfucker and it's not linear and some days you'll see a picture in it i know or like a thing in the street and you're like it'll hit me on the fucking toilet i don't know but it's just like you know it's you never know crazy you never know Okay, I'm going to shift our energy, and we're going to play Would You Rather. Oh, shit.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
And then we're going to get into dating. Okay, yeah.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Okay, okay, okay. Here we go. We're going to play Would You Rather. Would you rather wear Euphoria-style makeup every day for the rest of your life or never wear makeup again? Never wear makeup again. Easy.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Okay, would you rather send a nude to the wrong person or accidentally send a sext to your mother?
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
This is going to be so gorgeous. I got the couch. And the couch sat there for so long. And I'm like, how do you make a space look good? And I see Pinterest. And I see even Urban Outfitters. It looks so cute. And then I buy it. And it looks like fucking shit. So then I hire someone. And now I hired my husband to do it. Amazing.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Honestly, I guess I was going to say the nude, but again, it depends who it's to because if like I'm looking cute, I'm like, oh my God. It's like accidentally I sent it to an ex. I'm like, yeah. But right. That's not bad. But if it's to like a co-worker or like a producer, an executive. No, ma'am. Absolutely not. I think my mom, depending on the level of the sex. Yeah.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Like if it's like a choke on your cock situation. Oh my God. I'm like, mom. This is such a crazy question.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
the best absolutely perfect use of your time yes you're like oh let me go into the storage closet yeah let me pick out which one i'm loving today go to library pick it out yeah get that shit out there okay here we go yeah drunkenly hook up with a friend who you know has feelings for you and you don't have feelings back or you have to get back with your most recent ex for a month
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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Hunter Schaefer, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you so much. I am so happy you're here.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Have you ever hooked up with a friend and regretted it?
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Yeah. What is going on in your dating life? Are we single? Right now, yes.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
graciously let in this room love put me onto your podcast during the pandemic and we were gagging and um i'm just i'm so excited i love you okay little do you know i really love you because i have to tell you a story okay so i think it was a year ago we were this close to each other and you had no idea probably we were in milan and i was sitting were you at the prada show yes i do remember seeing you there okay this is were you there
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
is um but i would like i would like the dating thing it sounds fun no okay did you go on a first date with your husband i did it was like the best first date i ever had yeah which is annoying because i hate that like i feel like some dates could be great first dates and then they like turn out to be fucking shit it turns out that he wasn't a dick he actually was a lovely guy and i ended up marrying him
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
um but I've had good first dates but I've had awful first dates before I also think like it is more normal sometimes to just like go from friends and then all of a sudden you're just like hanging out at your house your apartment and like that's fine too yeah have you ever had it where like after a first hookup you're like oh my fucking god the chemistry was so insane like I must see this person again yeah so you've had that before absolutely okay yeah and that's that tends to be when those like what will turn into a relationship yeah
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Okay, who is currently your celebrity crush? Oh, God.
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who who has this happen to them because you're you're done you're gone you're you're done yeah if you meet another musician do you think you're gonna be like i have to break the curse and the pattern or are you gonna go back are you talking any musicians right now like if you find a musician that you like again yeah are you gonna just go right back in oh girl
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
whole body like you know right yeah but I think that makes sense I think you're like at that point in your life where you're like experiencing these relationships been through it enough now yes but like you may find someone at some point that you're like oh yeah wait that is different than infatuation right right that's when you'll know is when you're like oh wait yeah because love for me when I was younger like it really I went through a point where it was just infatuation then I was like is this
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
love or is this infatuation? Right. And then I think when I met Matt, I was like, oh, this is like different. Yeah.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
No, I completely agree. How do you handle when people
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
absolutely I feel like that's like the best takeaway from any relationship anything in life even if it's not romantic it's a friendship it's a work relationship I was when I was researching you um I was reading something where like your former co-star slash relationship yeah he kind of like talked about like his need for like to get out of like his codependent tendencies yeah I'm sure you read this yeah were you on the same page like it is a breakup like where you're like
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
insane so you know okay well it doesn't maybe matter because you're leaving no can we talk about this so this is all gonna happen while i'm away okay yeah okay so talk to me you walk in here and you're like bitch you caught me at a great time and i'm like wait why hunter why you're tell me okay what is happening okay so so yes you have caught me
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
who I was which is amazing it's amazing too I appreciate you describing this too because like it's kind of hard to no but like I'm I'm keeping up with you because what I first of all I'm so happy for you and I know everyone doesn't have that experience it's like the fact that you were with someone you felt so safe with and you were like oh you get me because we're similar so it's it's a privilege to come across people in romance and sex and dating where where that lens is there
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
If someone understandably is like, I don't know like what you want and they come to you like vulnerable of like, yeah, I really like you. Like, are you open to like, that's such a turn on.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
I would say because in the moment it feels like it's all.
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You're like, what did I do? Yes. And then eventually I love that you're obviously a year out. You're clearly at that place where you're like, I can you know that you're saying it with confidence. But in the moment, you're literally like, oh, yeah.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
And he wrote a song. And like... Yes. And I agree with you. I also think like... I wish people knew sometimes like you some things like are super deep in the moment. And then when you're having a conversation like there's no ill will. You've literally said like you were in love with this person.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
I'm putting on a face here like yeah you know getting over a breakup like not even specifically talking about him anymore but like for you and what you were kind of saying which I think is like a lot for your confidence I'm like as a trans woman you're like fuck like am I not and you almost like stopped your sentence like am I not like what came up for you when that happened like am I not it yeah I mean it
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
But I think fundamentally changed you. What do you mean?
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Were you open to the concept of monogamy? Like, did he initiate or did you initiate or you both did?
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Yeah. It's so much work. And like, you're fucking busy.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Let's talk about the new movie that's coming out by the time this episode comes out. Cuckoo.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
call her daddy yeah and the reason i love having these conversations though is like i get it we can do like a press junket of like no one no one wants to know more than anything about you yeah and then we want to go see the movie because of you and we fell and that's why i wanted to do this right because i fuck i fuck with this so i i'm so happy you're here um thank you a horror movie yes your first lead role so this is my first this is the first movie i ever got it's not the first movie that
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Okay, um, horror. I'm such a little fucking bitch when it comes to horror. I'm literally like, yeah, what's happening?
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Like, how did you decide on this genre? Like, did you love I love horror?
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Me. Do you ever get, like, scared? I'm like, I'm literally terrified. Like, do you ever, it's not like that, though, I'm assuming.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
like in the scenes where i'm scared you know i have to be scared obviously but i'm just coming from the perspective where like i'm trying to think of like a movie that you'd be like why were you scared about that like honestly some scenes in like vampire diary scared me you know what i mean i still haven't seen vampire no it was great but like okay let me um like halloween town did you ever watch the movie no oh yeah yeah yeah i was scared yeah that was scary i remember that yeah yeah i remember
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Honestly, like a little pathetic, but I'm so excited for you because obviously you being like having this lead role, like it's crazy to, this is why I love talking to you because you started this interview being like, I didn't even know if I wanted to be a fucking actress. And I like get this call and I'm like,
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
making no money from modeling and i get that call and i'm like i guess i'll do it now your life has changed how has your approach since now you're like getting on a plane tomorrow right to go to europe like how has your approach changed though to like yeah being an actress yeah so i you know because i was fine i i was like you know i was really under the belief for like a few years into it that like okay i'm just doing this for right now and it's helping
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
point where I'm like okay this this is this is one of my superpowers this is what I can do and and I love it Hunter I'm going to be honest it this was like one of my favorite interviews no seriously like sitting across from you I'm like inspired and also like this is why I love what I do because I've watched you I see your social media but like sitting with you for an hour and whatever like you're fucking awesome thank
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
It's just so cool because actresses we don't get to see and even musicians like we don't get to see as much obviously of your personality when you're like playing these characters. Because we're putting our drag in the world.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
But today you coming here like stripped down like being yourself and like opening up. I'm like.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
That's like insane. Thank you. And when you have meetings like that, when you say like it goes well, like what do you look for to make you feel comfortable?
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Okay. I have so many questions of just like how we got here and how you are doing. So you grew up in North Carolina and obviously that's so fucking different than LA. What is your hometown like? Can you describe it?
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
OK, OK. Hunter's sister is in the room. She's saying she saw me freaked out. OK, this is why life is so fucking stupid, because I was standing with my videographer and I was like, oh, my God, it's Hunter. And he was like, go say hi to her. And I was like, no, no, that's weird. That's weird. He's like, no, go say hi. I'm like, no, no, no. Like, I believe one day we are going to meet in a non like.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
What were you like as a kid, like in this environment? Describe yourself.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
Yeah. Like if you're in the South, you're right. As like growing up, if you are queer in the South, like still to this day, it's crazy to say like kids are having a hard time fucking.
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
in california they have a hard time which is even fucking crazy to say yes so when you're growing up in that environment i know you have three siblings and you're the oldest yes being the oldest it was it hard to like open up to your siblings or were they like there for you like what was that dynamic i would say the siblings had was was on the easier end because i think that uh
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
But as happy as you were, that, like, makes me sad for any kid that's, like, going through something that's, like, indescribable in your mind at that point. Did you have a hard time in school? Like, what was your middle school like?
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Hunter Schafer: Polyamory, Cheating & Fame (FBF)
did you feel like not even just you as an individual, like did you and your siblings feel like you guys had this like expectation around you? Like I'm thinking of like TV shows and I'm like the pastor, like I'm thinking like seventh heaven back in the day. Like, I don't know. Like, did you guys feel like you had to like live up to this?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
isn't that so interesting when you meet people in life that obviously again like you needed to work on yourself to be able to have that hindsight and be like wait that was so helpful but like most of the time in life in romantic partnerships I feel like specifically like you can get so hurt by them but that's not your family so you're like I can walk away but you're always going to learn something so incredible and if you can get past that hurt initially yeah
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
we really should be thanking all of our exes because it's like even if you cheated on me like i have partners in the past that i had so much resentment and anger and i look back and i'm like there's so much i learned about myself and my resilience and my worth and it's like had that not happened of course there's moments in life where like i wish no harm on anyone but like certain themes that you can take find the good part of it rather than feeling so negative and angry because that gets us nowhere
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
You know, true. And, you know, it's interesting that I've had I remember an ex I had kind of similar to that. But you also wonder like. But if I was this new version of myself, we probably wouldn't have been together. Because you were attracted to me then. We ended up for some reason.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
And it's like, again, it's like you're both growing. So for him to be even able to see your growth, phenomenal, love it, amazing. But we probably needed to go on our own ways to actually get whole and good and feel healthy within ourselves. And maybe that's just not the right fit, but at the time it was. And so we can appreciate each other's growth, but we're not gonna grow together.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
if someone's listening to this and is like wow i really relate to you maybe they had someone in their life that didn't show up for them and was constantly you know neglecting to be there and show up what did actually working through that childhood trauma like look like for you because i can see some people like you know how do i begin to like repair this like where do i start
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
I love that advice because even hearing you talk it's like we all reach a point in life when we haven't dealt with our shit where it just starts coming up more and more relationships are failing friendships are having issues there's things at work like it just starts to creep up yeah and those are usually the moments where in a good way like you cannot deny you need to address it and I love that you said it's so fucking uncomfortable
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
yeah but you got to do the work because then you won't be uncomfortable but you're going against something that you literally have been living this way your whole life yes so you're going like against the grain you're going against yourself your future self is fighting your past version old version of yourself damn it's like looper
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Anyway, um, you mentioned now that you have a good relationship with your father. And I can imagine there are people really relating to you today also of like, how did you know it was time for that you were going to be able to forgive and have an actual relationship with your dad?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
How old were you when your dad went to prison?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Yeah, it doesn't matter. I was there. I was alive at some point.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
You're so successful in so many different areas. Like you're an author, you're an actor, you're a singer. It's insane how talented you are. And I'm thinking, again, it's always like, we never know what someone goes through. Like you rising to fame.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
having your father, you know, having these struggles, like, were you ever just, was he still struggling when you first came up and started to get famous?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Cause I was going to say like, damn, like everyone probably seen you in the tabloids and everything, like having all this success. And yet you,
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
you want to repair a relationship with your father because there's nothing, everyone can relate when you do something so good at work or at school or when you want to call your parents and you, cause you know, there's no one that's going to be more proud of you. And so I appreciate you sharing that a little bit because it's like, yes, you have all this success and, but family.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
And again, when I say family, I always make sure to clarify, like, I don't care if they're blood. Like you don't have to be with people that
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
abused you or whatever whatever you consider who your family is to be able to repair relationships if you want it yeah it is kind of beautiful because you get to share your life with people that love you and support you and there's no jealousy it's just like we fucking love you like your mom outside the talent shows yeah yeah mom's like oh mom no it's really cute
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
You are very private about your dating life.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
How have you decided to make that decision in this crazy Hollywood world that we live in?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
um because they didn't ask for it you know they didn't ask for it so i just like to keep peace yeah and in harmony and no expectation from the public to know our every move i think that's really healthy and i think in a weird way i do always talk about on my show now like i feel like people now more than ever can kind of relate to a lack of privacy even if you have
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
500 followers like we have accessibility now to post as much as we want and i think there are people that feel societal pressure to like post my partner with me because it's like there's almost like social currency that comes with like being this it couple and having whether you're in
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
college or high school like this is everywhere now where people are feeling pressured to prove something on the internet yeah and when you can actually step back from it i'm not saying don't post on the internet but like try to find a balance within yourself like why are you actually doing this why are you doing certain things is it just to get the photo to prove something to people right
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
it's just it's not as healthy yeah you know like live some type of privacy is really good for yourself because then you can also be with yourself like do I like this person or do I like how I'm doing this or do I even want to do this right kind of have to like yeah not just doing it for the gram
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
y'all need to really work through some things yeah no that's true because I'm thinking about it like I feel like there are some people that also now because social media has been like very you know prevalent for the past I guess like 10 something years people may have been in relationships where someone was extremely adamant about posting them and they almost found like when we're good he posts me when we're not he doesn't post me so when you go to your next relationship I bet there are some people that have like lingering feelings
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
As you should. That's phenomenal. I feel like when I go on trips with my friends, there's someone in the friend group that's like the planner, that's like the reservations and the itinerary person. And then there's people that are more like chill and just going with the flow. Who are you in the friend group?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
feelings about like well why aren't you posting me and someone could literally be like because i don't think we need to i love you we're sitting here together like isn't this better than us taking a selfie so also check in with yourself of like are you comparing yourself to your friends or your past relationships get on the same page as your current partner
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
They may not be being shady at all. They're actually like, no, I fucking love you.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
it's wild what are you like in a relationship are you romantic are you dominant like what's the vibe over there um that was also we played this game called oh god i'm gonna um
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
I can link it in the description when you if you have your team send it.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
How did you know? Was there like a conversation or did you just know the moment when you first had your first polyamorous relationship? Like, how did you know that you were comfortable with that dynamic?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
OK, would you would you continue to have those type of relationships again? Like, are you still interested in that or has anything changed?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Yeah. I love that because what is very frustrating and I love having conversations like this on my show because you're right. We were all raised with something that was like, this is the norm. And it's like, I'm so happy. Finally. I mean, there's still so much work to be done, but like even with sexuality and fluidity, it's just like.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
what like it's very frustrating I think for people that see it so clearly like let everyone do what they want to do and then people that are still so stuck in the way that they want things to have been done for thousands of years prior when you speak about polyamory like I can imagine there are people that are so judgmental of even that word like yeah how do you even do that and like yeah it's so small-minded and it's also like half the people that are saying that are speaking from a place of insecurity because I've seen people do it and be like
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
isn't he cheating on his wife and like it's like there's so much judgment when when it something really frustrates someone I always believe like there's something internally that like is getting you going because why do you care so much yeah but how did you I'm assuming at some point you have dealt with judgment and to anyone listening that's also maybe like going against the norm which fuck the norm let's just make everything normal yeah how did you deal with that
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
yeah i really appreciate you talking about that because it's just such a prevalent topic that still like is we again we have so much movement that we need to keep doing but i think having conversations like this help i'm curious to know like how did you decide obviously being a public figure to speak openly about your sexuality
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
I mean, I think that's like a great trait and quality to have. Like, I feel like that makes a lot of sense of like what I wanted to talk to you about today is obviously your new album, The Age of Pleasure is out. And while I was listening to it, I'm like, you have such a specific, great vibe that's very infectious, which I love. And I'm curious, are you currently in your age of pleasure?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
community when you were saying that like i hope everyone listening if you're sitting listening to this or watching this in your room and you haven't been able to fully embrace your sexuality whether it's people around you you're afraid how they're going to accept you like there are so many people out there that will love you and like are so having the same feelings as you and so just don't limit yourself to just the people that you've been assigned as
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
When I was researching, I read somewhere you don't refer to opening up to others about your sexuality as coming out, but rather coming in. Can you explain that?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy janelle monet welcome to call her daddy thank you so much for having me i'm first of all i'm just so excited to meet you i'm a huge fan of all your work i was listening to your music on my way here and i'm like okay you are giving sexual sensual fun party vibes it gives all the vibes your album is amazing i'm so happy to have you here
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Have you always been? And what is age of pleasure to you?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
I love that. You're so right. Cause it's like, I'm letting you in on who I am. I don't, you don't deserve me. I don't have to come out to you. I don't owe you anything. Exactly. Like when I feel comfortable, I'll let you in.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
I could too. How about this? Do you have a mantra you come back to when it comes to people who actively do not agree with the way that you live?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Mic drop. Yeah. Mic drop. What is something when it comes to dating and love that you know now that you wish you knew when you were younger?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
I remember I didn't have one and my friend bought me one for my birthday in college. And I remember like the first time I tried something with the back of my electric toothbrush.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
And so I felt the same way though. My friend got me my first one and then I was like, oh my God, like I never have to have sex again. Like this is amazing. Like it just allowed me to recognize that like I hold the power of like my own orgasm and like I don't need someone else to make me feel good.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
amazing like I can do it myself because being taught like we grow up and it's just like the men will do this for you and like you and I'm like why am I gonna wait for a motherfucker to give me an orgasm like this is amazing don't wait for a man or anyone to give you you can do it yourself so I remember I felt the same way in New York I remember the first sex shop I went to with my friend
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
i was not famous but i was mortified just being like i just can't make eye contact and i think that just comes from like shame of like we're not normalizing like like exploring your sexuality and enjoying especially as women like enjoying sex loving sex being connected with your body and i think it's so important that we start to have those conversations at younger ages obviously in a safe way but like
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
especially for young girls you just start to like feel shame and like you're doing something wrong and that's why so many women I truly believe like we have such a hard time in the beginning like figuring out what works for us and knowing how to like get off because we were like it was basically like don't touch yourself you're a whore you're a slut and it's like
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Absolutely. Okay. Everyone listening today, we are entering our era of the art of pleasure. Okay. We're taking it into our own hands.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
I know we've been kind of like essentially talking about it this whole episode because we're talking about pleasure and finding our own voices to find that pleasure. But what has been the most rewarding part of making this soundtrack for you?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
No, it's so cute. You know, I'm going to do this.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
And if you need another size. No, this is so good. I'll give you another one. Can I cut it like you?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
But I've been staring at it and it's such a vibe.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
This is bringing the gifts. Girl, I know you just got back from vacation. I did. You're getting us in our feels. We're all ready to go have sex with ourselves.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Okay, to anyone that is like, you got to tell us what is, if you have to pick, what is your favorite song on the soundtrack?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
I said Champagne Shit. Is it called Phenomenal? I really like that one.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Yeah, it's a vibe where like... I don't know. I really like that one. Like, but again, I, it feels like it's a story that's being told and you're just like, it's almost like an anthem vibe where you're just like vibing the whole time. So I, I agree. I guess I couldn't like pick one too. Cause you almost have to like listen to it all together, like start to finish and like feel it.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Janelle, I can't thank you enough for coming and call her daddy. This was truly such a pleasure. I'm so happy I got to sit in the same room with you and feel your energy. Thank you. Thank you.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
that takes a lot of confidence, but also just like self-awareness to be like, I'm going to play my friends, my songs. They're going to have no fucking idea. It's me and watch. Let's see if they vibe with it. So like every single, cause I was thinking I, when I was listening to champagne shit, I was like, okay, like this is a vibe.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Like I would listen to this, like getting ready with my friends, like getting ready to go out. Like, but then I'm all, I'm wondering like, so you're sitting there being like, do they like it? Do they like it? And then you're like, check that's going on this
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
That's so – I appreciate you sharing that because I, one, can relate in terms of, like, putting something creatively out there and being extremely nervous to see, obviously, like, are people going to like it? On top of that, obviously, you infusing parts of you with your sexuality and race and growing up and your experiences, like, that's, like, a really –
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
vulnerable moment to be infusing something into a work of art and then like fingers crossed, hoping people like it, you kind of have to slowly be really good with yourself to be able to know like, sure, I can like perfect my craft a little bit more, but down to the core, like if people don't like it, I'm still going to be okay with myself.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Okay, tell me how your summer is going. You were on vacation. Where were you? Let us pretend we were there with you.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Yeah, it's so real what you're saying too, because even when I was listening to you say like, I was fighting for so much of my life, like, and when am I going to get out of this stage? That's also the beauty of art is like, it will come to it when you're ready. Like your music would have sounded so different in your fighting stages versus now when you're like, I fucking love myself.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
I'm more clear on who I am. I'm more secure in certain things that were like eating me alive, maybe when I was younger and going through it. And you can tell like this album, like it makes you smile. It makes you feel yourself. It makes you just like want to live. And I don't know if that sounds corny, but like, no, it's facts. No, it's really beautiful.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Every moment of your soundtrack felt very thoughtful and put together. And it is a story. So I just I'm a creative person. So, you know, I really respect you and it's great.
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
Of course. It's interesting. You kind of mentioned this earlier and I want to talk about it. I know you've talked about going to therapy and working on yourself and I know you're at a great place in your life and you know, the age of pleasure, but let's go back a little bit. What is the biggest part of yourself you had to heal in order to be who you are sitting here today?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
We're going to like manifest it here now because it's like when you were younger, I feel like summers were always vacation because off of school. But when you become an adult, nothing is fun anymore. We're like, we need to go on vacation. Okay, so where were you?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
I think it's so interesting when you start to connect to your childhood and how your parents raised you and you know, what trauma did you go through?
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
when you don't deal with it there's just like this anger in you or there's this like resentment and there's just a part of you even if you don't want to label that like there's just something in you that you feel like you haven't resolved and a lot of times we don't have the perspective of kids of like oh like this wasn't intentional that my dad was doing this to like neglect me and make me feel abandoned but it happened and so two things can be true right like he wasn't trying to like inflict pain on you he was going through something
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Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes (FBF)
but it affected you and until you go through all of that it's gonna influence the way that you move in life that you see like yeah but even you saying it's interesting like it affected your art i'm interested to know how did it affect your personal relationships with this theme of abandonment within you it affected them for sure yeah it was just like trust issues um
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Like, if you don't have someone, like, that's a parent being, like, stop it. Mm-hmm.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
you kind of can just start to go wild and like not know like what is bad what is good and i'm finding myself and i'm figuring myself out and if you didn't have friends like you kind of had no one probably to compare yourself to like my friends aren't doing this had you ever done drugs before you went to la no no i was super good i never drank like i just didn't i wasn't having like sex in high school or something like that because i just never i never was that person i don't know so maybe i just thought like la be wild you know what i mean i thought
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
You're right though I can see what you're saying of like going from like being in a position where you're like oh like I wanted to be liked by these men and then to get this profession where like they all love you and they're all paying attention to you but then I can imagine like the drugs probably made you get into situations like
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
It's kidnapping, no matter if you're 45 or 50. Wait, really?
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
I think also there's a level of like at some point you kind of have to just like disconnect from it because a lot of that like for any woman listening like that is I'm sitting here being like, sorry, you woke up in the back of the truck. Like that's so scary.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
I do think obviously when you're on drugs though, everything can become way less intimidating because your senses are like not heightened whatsoever. You're just like kind of in a sedated state. So like you can't really, you don't have the ability to like
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Well, yeah, I think a lot of the time it's like the body keeps things in. But like if you've done such a good job of essentially like dissociating from it, like I get what you're saying. Like you're telling the story, but you don't personally feel that affected by it right now because you have survived through it.
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And you're like, I don't really like connect to that person anymore, which I think is how a lot of people survive. And I think there's also like a stigma where people, which I completely understand when people would look at you being like, well, you have to figure it out. You have to solve it. I think that there's a lot of people that don't want to go and relive some things. And I think that's OK.
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Obviously, if it's like significantly affecting your life to this day where like you're having like whether you're feeling like if you're having sex, you're getting triggered or you're having PTSD or flashbacks like that's usually when to like open it back up. But like definitely I think everyone has to figure it out on their own time.
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Yeah I'm curious like going through that with men and like being in positions where obviously I'm sure like you kind of alluded like.
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No but I get what you're saying I think like when you've been like fucked over or wronged by men or even just as simple as like they don't understand women and there are some men that when you're actually looking at them in the eyes you're like oh you don't get what I'm talking about you don't get what I'm like even trying to say to you and that can be so infuriating and it's not worth our time sometimes like it's not our job to educate men on why we should be treated equally to them or why we should like have respect like if you're talking so there are some men that are great like your husband seems great but like
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I get what you're saying of like the trauma of having men fail you so many times in your life. Why would you like them?
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um I mean definitely my mom yeah like my dad I saw like the summers you know what I mean yeah um but my dad I think in that though I thought my dad was so cool because he was like in California and I was like even though like obviously he was the worst sir of the parents my mom literally raised us I always felt bad saying like my dad was the best I feel like that happens so much when you come from divorced parents the one that's like the cooler one is actually just the one that never had to like instill any boundaries or like tell you like you're grounded because you did this yeah or like just was not the one parenting as much oh yeah and then you grow up
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It's so fucked up. And then to see like how many men then want to have like a say on what women do with their bodies.
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When you're in the dating world, like I'm sorry, but like I get it. Women are always going to try to like look cute for the date and look this way and talk this way. Like there are little things we always do because we still live in a man's world. So it's like we have to be delicate with how we unravel it. But once you're in a healthy, safe relationship, it's kind of nice.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
You're right to be like, I now don't need anything. And if I'm going to interact with men, it's going to be on my turn.
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Right. It's like, it's like wipe your tears and eat your pasta, Trisha. Yeah. Okay. I read a study that like pasta makes you happier. Yes.
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I always need to see it. Yeah. I was like, repost. I'm like, absolutely. Happier. Let's go. Pasta every night.
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I totally get it. Yeah. When you were talking about your time in L.A. and like struggling with drugs, did you ever have like a rock bottom moment where you're like, I've got to.
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yeah just was really like crazy let's talk about your og youtube days because yes there were some videos put out that like people considered controversial and people like tried to bring your old youtube videos back to this day like you got involved in like i feel like a good bit of drama back then like when you look back at the og youtube days how do you feel about them and how would you even describe them
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But I do think it's helpful that you're like explaining your backstory. And that's why I wanted to talk to you about it today because it's like, for sure, I bet I'll get comments being like, why the fuck are you having Trisha Paytas on? Like, what the fuck? I totally understand that. I also though think it's important.
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Like the fact that you just said like, I could make more money doing this than stripping and hooking. It's like, okay, like it's good to know someone's backstory. And I think when, again, when you're saying those type of things, usually the people that are saying those things, you're not in a great place.
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people feel like they're lucky because they can make their fake accounts but like god forbid one day all of your fake account comments and trolling and you like telling people to go kill themselves or whatever like there are people on the internet that are so ruthless but they don't have the balls to do it publicly and have their own name on it if that god forbid you walked into work one day and all of your comments were placed on your own desk like gosh
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Would you be fired or not? And I think it, like, if you look inward, all of those people are not in a good place. And clearly you weren't either. Yeah. And you've kind of had this, like, redemption arc. But, like, when you look back, do you think you were addicted to the drama once you started to see the money?
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do and can I agree I think also it's really difficult on the internet when you have a persona that I even feel it sometimes like I feel like sometimes I've met people and they're like oh my gosh like I thought you were gonna be such a bitch you're gonna be this and I'm like oh like I mean I don't know you can be honest like what you thought of before you met me yeah because you just hear all the stuff right you hear all the drama and so you're just like wow she's a ruthless she's this and you know not to say I don't judge because obviously I know like I know how people take things but you hear those things or just how
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That's the point is like we see people online and most of the time we never get to meet these people in person. So like there's a image online that people will like assume of you and it's really fucking hard to break away from that. And so obviously like I know my –
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the way that I got through it was like I know the truth and I know what happened and I know I feel like I can go to sleep and I'm a good person and I have good people around me and like and if I'm good with my life off the internet I think then I did become a better version of myself on the internet because it's like when all you are looking for is validation from the internet which it seems like at one point that was you didn't have friends you were really in a dark place like you
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you're gonna just say some crazy fucking shit and you don't give a fuck yeah but i do think second chances you're right are important because like i'm so proud of the growth that i've had and i know you feel the same way about yourself of like of course we've changed and of course now like when you have things you care about everything is put in perspective oh my god so different now it's like oh i don't want to embarrass my husband i want to embarrass my daughter you know you're like
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Can you kind of paint the picture though, like before high school, just like of your childhood, I feel like obviously so much of like who we are is from our childhood. And I know you just mentioned like your mom was working for jobs. Like, can you kind of just paint the picture growing up in Illinois with your mom?
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Yeah. Okay. We're going to play a little game.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Oh, my God. Huge. I love them. Huge. And there's like tiny little writing. I'm like, okay. Let's play a game. Yes. I'm going to give you a topic and I want to hear your opinion on it. Reusing nudes.
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yeah really oh and you've never posted nudes online I've never posted nudes online I just was such a nude girl like I remember I dated this guy that was obsessed with nudes to the point where it's like very unhealthy and he was like like every day you're sending in them I would be at work, Trisha, and this man would be, like, come on, like, can I get a pic?
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And, like, I was in such a bad relationship with him that, like, I knew that, like, if I didn't, like, is another girl going to send him a nude? So I would feel so insecure. So there I was at work with, like, my, like, pencil skirt on, and I'd, like, mosey my way over to the bathroom.
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I thought you'd have, like, a library. No, no, no. Trust me. Wow.
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i and oh my god like i would absolutely edit them i would like oh i know literally i i would slay i would be at work on the clock getting paid i would go take it in like the um handicapped bathroom sorry like it was bigger but bigger and like i needed my privacy yeah god forbid someone walks in in the stalls and i'm like getting that ass shot i'm sure if there's a handicapped person walking you'd give them the song for sure for sure yeah
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and so i would get out and i would go back to my desk and i would like look around and i would always had a girl behind me and whenever she would go to lunch i would pull up my nude i would go on and i would start like rearranging like make the ass batter like everything and then i would like send it off to him and be like here you go and he'd be like so hot so fire and then i would save those though and then obviously like if i was talking to another guy that day be like here you go oh my gosh
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I loved a good nude. I thought that I, it almost became like an art form at one point. Right. You know, like you really get those angles. You learn how to like make it look good. Like I loved a good nude. Yeah. It was fun. And then, oh my God, like I've definitely sent like some videos and like all that stuff, but I never went, I never made money off of it. No.
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never would it ever get out no one ever posted i love you no because i think like i know the amount of people that i've sent it to like i know those specific guys okay and if they ever did like i think they know i would try to sue them so i think they're like too scared especially now i feel like they would put you out there because you're you right but i'm like yeah but like try me let's go to court motherfucker but god forbid like i ever feel like i gotta pull out i'm gonna bring out my i have literally an old nude like catalog like album like yeah like you know you've got that macbook that you've got it on and you're like oh which one should i use today
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Yeah. I should change the album name from Old Nudes to Retirement Plan. I mean, it's kind of like everyone's doing it now, but I get you. I totally get you. Meeting your celebrity idols.
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everything they do because I think I saw who did I see I think I saw Snoop Dogg recently saying like there were a billion streams and he made 40k from it no that's wild to me that's why I buy the music off iTunes and I still do and they appreciate it I mean I was shook I was like oh my god Abel's in my DMs was crazy like literally maybe they need to start an OnlyFans like fuck he's like babe thanks for the six dollars to like babe literally get an OnlyFans I was like
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Taco Bell no I just I love how also like you're right we've kind of changed the game for every single question what was the game originally oh I want to hear your opinion on oh okay okay Taco Bell um I'm not I love fast food but I'm just not a Taco Bell fan what's your favorite fast food place um McDonald's McDonald's yeah just because there's one close to us I always get the nuggets right now they have adult happy meals
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That's interesting. If you go to Chick-fil-A with one of your gay friends. I think it's fine. Then it cancels it out.
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Oh, my God. Do you think if you landed in Illinois, like, would you get triggered?
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
I have food for you to try downstairs. Now I'm like rethinking everything. Wait, did you make it? I'm having someone make it right now. Oh my, booze.
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Do you have a content house with a chef? If you live here, like no, just to shoot here. I was like, wow. I just begged someone downstairs. I'm like, listen, there's this one pasta that I want Trisha to try. Do you think? Wait, what? Yeah, I want you to try it. What kind of pasta is that? You know how like girls are like, oh my God, like I have my like,
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like my girl dinner and it's like when the men are away the girls will play and like you make like just dumb shit that like men would be like i'm not eating that shit so like i grew up on this like spaghetti sauce that my mom would make me but it's like this like progresso like i don't even want to progresso yeah is that like wait what oh progress it's like prego sauce because i do like i like pasta sauce i'm trying to figure out progresso sauce
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I can't breathe. It's in a jar. And I swear to God, Trisha, I want you to try it. Like, I know you like plain stuff. Like, I'm interested to see your take. I love pasta sauce. Okay. I love pasta sauce. We're going to film it downstairs. Okay. But, like, it's good to know. Where's that going?
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Where did that go? Gotta get that coin, girl. I love it. I know. Same, same, same. I'm like, you're going to stay for 10 hours, right? I love it. We're good to go. I will. Okay, so no to Taco Bell. No Taco Bell. Okay, I'm crying. Okay, internet trolls. What is your opinion on them?
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No. I kind of relate to that, though. And I think a lot of people, especially during the holidays, like, I've seen people always say, like, it's triggering to go back to your hometown because, one, I think we, like, repress so many memories. And, two, it just, like, it just reminds us of a version of ourselves that, like, if you were cool in middle school and high school, like –
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You should literally, every time you see somebody doing trolling videos, be like, trust me, stop. Don't stop. Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Dude, wait. I feel like I know who you're talking about.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Yeah. Mm-hmm. She's made videos about me being Alex Cooper, and I always just stop it immediately. Oh, yeah. I never watch the video because I'm too scared. I don't want to know.
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Stop. I know. She'll probably clip this and be like, you fucking whore. Shut up. Like, oh. Literally.
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Do you ever scroll on TikTok? And if you hear someone talking about you, do you watch the videos?
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
I'm regressing to being 12 right now. And I'm sobbing.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Yeah. Aren't we done with that?
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
You're right. And I feel like it's expected from a man because it's like you're dumb. But from a woman, you're like.
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Well, at least you allow yourself to cry. I feel like sometimes people hold it in too much. If you're going to cry, cry and then keep eating that pasta. Yeah. Let's go. Let's go, bitch. Cry. How do you feel about reincarnation? Do you believe in it? Oh, I don't know. What do you think? Didn't I see something on the Internet that people were convinced? What is the theory?
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oh my god you know why you were probably so searched it's like you kind of like tapped into like you infiltrated the royal family like but everyone in england was like wait who is this bitch i need to see like is the queenie coming out of that v like what the fuck is going on the day she died i'm like trending i have a screenshot like right underneath her like it's so bizarre i know when i announced my pregnancy everyone's like uh-uh king charles nine months left no
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Wait, but you said you never leave your house. Yeah, I just buy it online.
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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Trisha Paytas, welcome to Call Her Daddy. I'm so excited. Daddy Gang, we're going to be really honest with you right now. We were just recording for a solid 10 minutes. We were cruising down the freeway. We were thriving. And then we realized it wasn't recording.
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Okay, let's talk about sex. Okay. I think that you obviously exude confidence. And I know you have kind of like lately in this interview talked about just like your relationship to men has evolved. But to women that are like, Trisha, how the fuck do we get confident in the bedroom? Like what personally would you say makes you feel the most confident in your sex life? Oof.
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uh I mean like back when I was like a hugger I mean I didn't shower for like five days and they would be fine with it so I think guys are just kind of nasty and they'll just take what they get so don't feel bad if you're hygienic I think that's a plus if you put on deodorant that day girls they're fine yeah you're good just do a little wash it's such a good point men are like kind of disgusting and so I feel like sometimes like we're in our own heads about like oh my god do I need to do this no you don't need to do shit no show up I yeah I've been with and I've been
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Everything was going amazing. So if you guys feel like we're a little on edge here and ready to end it all, it's because we are. Okay. I was saying to you, Trisha, congratulations. You just announced your second child.
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no i think that's great i think that's why i know people want to hear from you on it because i think you're right of like we are in our own heads so much more than men are like if if you're right if he's in the room with you and wanting to have sex with you there you go yeah he's that's it they're not gonna be like no thank you i've never had anybody like oh no
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Oh, my God, like 32. I love that you say that though, because I think so many women, even if they would lie about it, like I bet a lot of women feel that same way. Like they, we, of course we didn't have orgasms at such young age because men don't know how to fucking please us. Guys don't care about it. Did you give it yourself or did you get it from a guy?
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Going back to high school, did you have a lot of girlfriends?
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Okay no I get that. You're like hi this is my couple. Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Maybe it'll get more normalized. So the Mr. Hitachi, I was going to say, what are your top three sex toys in the bedroom that you would recommend? So one is Mr. Hitachi. What are another two?
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I like. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. But yeah. Do you if you have advice for someone like how do you approach your partner if you want to try a new thing in the bedroom?
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um at some point you can talk about this because i feel like no podcast talk about sex oh my god oh yeah you're on spotify so yeah you're not demonetized on youtube i'm like youtube they can't say anything oh no i'm like let's talk about everything yeah no that's great it's so funny what do you think of for advice for someone who wants to lose their anal v card like give us the advice trisha let's take some poppers you know loosen it up a little bit because that's the only thing i could think of right but do you even enjoy it no i mean
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Right. Like I want my nuggets and I want my pasta.
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And you're not a part of drama right now, Trisha. You're clean. You're free. You're like, ooh. But now we need to read their drama and help them with their drama. OK. So someone wrote in and said, my brother's messages linked to my laptop. And I just found out that he and my best friend have been seeing each other behind my back. I'm so traumatized from seeing these texts.
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and pictures there are so many messages that i'm talking about how i'll how i'll react if i find out but it's so hot that they're sneaking around lately when she comes over it seems like she's there for my brother and the two of them actively leave me out how do i confront them about the situation and do i bring up the fact that i saw their nudes no you're the sister like what why do you care stop
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yeah no I think that's relatable though of like when especially when we're younger like we're constantly comparing ourselves in rooms because at that age it's also like what guy likes what girl and if you're not getting picked then you feel like a loser and you feel like fuck like I wish I looked like them and then it's just this comparing game that you can never win definitely so it's hard to like I had that a lot where I like my best friend was like the gorgeous one and I was always like I love you so much but like fuck
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I get what you're saying like first of all no girl you're not telling your brother like I saw that dick pic like that shit's big like yeah that's more on you I would immediately stop looking at messages you keep looking at him like a weirdo I understand the side of, like, your friends lying to you. Like, you would like to know, like, is she going behind your back?
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Maybe just address it with your friend of, like, hey, I get you're hooking up with my brother. Can you just be honest so it's not awkward?
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
don't listen to me on that one no no i definitely i think you're right about the brother thing like don't fucking tell him like i saw your nudes like leave the brother out right right i think you could go up to your friend and be like listen i don't care what you my brother are doing but like i don't want to constantly be sitting in the room and feeling like you guys are like keeping things from me yeah let's be open with it you guys are fucking fabulous let's move on okay you want to know okay i don't think i want to know i'd be like just it's fine don't tell me
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I actually kind of agree. Whenever I think about my brother having sex, I'm like, no, he doesn't.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Okay. Next one. I have a group of six girlfriends and we've all been close since high school. Recently, a new girl has been introduced to the group. She hasn't done anything actively wrong and nobody seems to have an issue with her. But something about this girl just fucking annoys me. Oh my God. One day. What?
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one day i had five glasses of wine too many and decided i was gonna say something so i messaged her from a fake instagram account oh my god i said stop leeching onto other people's friend groups it's sad oh my god ruthless yeah it's why i don't have friends that's so scary Oh my God. She said, it's sad and pathetic.
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They obviously don't want you around and they all feel too bad to tell you the truth. So I will. Oh my God. That girl sounds crazy. And I know you don't use that word lightly. No, that's insane. She found out it was me by the email linked to the account and told all of our friends. Now I'm basically booted from the group. What should I do? Oh my God. Well, good. At least she was booted.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Like, that's so nuts. I just think, first of all, if you're going to use a fake account, I've learned, make a new fucking email, bitch. Go to a different, go to the library, get a different IP address.
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Literally, dude, never, never. If you are stalking people on your fake, don't ever let them know it's you. Second of all, what is this girl doing that's so triggering that you felt the need to message her? From a fake account saying no one likes you. Do you ever go on your fake account? Do you have a fake account? I don't have a fake account. Oh, have you ever had one?
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It takes like a lot to like make a whole new account.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
trisha yeah i used to have one i would say like i would say a year and a half ago i deactivated mine and i've felt lighter i felt happier i've just felt like why am i stalking an ex why am i like what am i doing yeah or even if i like saw something online like why am i on a fake account if i don't want people to know i'm looking at it then just maybe i shouldn't be looking that's how i feel too that's how i feel like that feels weirder when you go on like incognito and yeah that feels like you're doing something wrong
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
fuck me. Yeah. Don't be around me. Right. Like, can you move a little to the fucking right? Cause you look too good in parties. And I'd be like, I'm literally never going to get chosen if you are sitting next to me. And it's hard with girls, but it's like, now I look back and I'm like, oh my God, it wasn't actually about us competing with each other.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
I think that the moral of the story is everybody delete your fake accounts. You don't need to have a fake account.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
that I stopped and like I remember I was so consumed by it because you're constantly trying to be like okay these people think this about me so then all of a sudden you're like in a video or an episode trying to like appease them yes and when you stop giving also when I look at it I'm like there's like 200 people yeah I'm like whoa we're really like shaking it up here like why am I listening to 200 people if you have like hundreds of thousands to millions of views on something yeah obviously there's people that like what you're doing so keep doing what you're doing exactly and don't give them like energy
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
done now more people like me done yeah let's do one not friendship okay because all these friendship ones i'm like i don't know how about this my boyfriend and i have been go having ongoing conversations about getting engaged and planning to do that next year but lately something has been really weighing on my conscious my question is do i tell him that i gave his best friend the gluck gluck 9000
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
It was about the men that we were trying to like appease their standards and had nothing to do with the girls, like liking each other. Not all based off of if guys like it.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
The Gluck Gluck 9000 blowjob on the trip that the two of us met before. Obviously, we had feelings for each other. We see this friend quite often, and I'm worried that my boyfriend will feel uncomfortable if he knows that I sucked his friend's dick. Oh, my God. Should I come clean or is this something that you take to the grave?
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
i agree and god forbid like one night like something happens like if you're married and he finds out you never told him that it could like literally end a marriage yeah just tell him just tell him yeah and it was also you guys didn't have feelings for each other at the time right yeah it says a lot about how he reacts too like if he's upset about it then like maybe that's not the one for you right and he's like okay it was before we met whatever right like you want an understanding guy yeah yeah yeah are you a jealous person
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
And everyone. Yeah. I got it. I think I used to be jealous. But because it was coming from a place of insecurity of like I had gotten cheated on before. So then I'm like, oh, my God, like you must be doing it, too.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
And so like when you're just not in like healthy relationships, the toxicity, you can't help but be kind of paranoid, which turns into jealousy where you're like, oh, my God, like I don't want you out and I don't want you doing this. And then you're just like the worst version of yourself. Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
If The Weeknd wanted to have a threesome with you guys, would you do it?
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
I think he's got to do it and just like suck it up. Okay. Poor Moses.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
I don't think I would with Matt either. I'm like, it's just too... With another girl.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
so I think that's the worst is like I never like had bad intentions no there was never malice I never wanted to like ruin someone's life totally I also think just even from this interview I hope it gives people more clarity too because I feel like I have seen so much of you online but I think this interview like we really kind of went from start to finish and it shows your growth of like where you came from like the decisions you made like the headspace you were in and like of course I'm not saying it was like right but it's like it
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
you people grow and people change and the fact that you're even able to also like take accountability and I also love how you're like but I also get it and like I'm not asking like I think that's also a really mature way to look at it like there are just some people that will never look at you or me and like change their opinion if they hate us that's okay yeah but you clearly know like you're a good person and you did all of that in a place of whether it was like you said like jealousy or insecurity or just being in a bad place like yeah that happens and I think it's obviously we have a social
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
do you feel better now when you're going into like doing your podcast do you feel like you now have a better handle on like what you're gonna say and what you're not gonna say as if maybe in the other days you'd be like I'm just gonna spew all this shit and oh yeah I definitely will just like take into consideration people feelings and that like people will see it and people do like get hurt by it you know what I mean I know like Charlie D'Amelio just did Jay Shaddy's podcast like yeah people were like really meeting me like really affected me and I was like spiraling and I was like
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Oh, for sure. Like, they're not perfect either.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Well, that's just, like, the lowest form of, like, someone coming at someone who's, like, you're such, like, that's just such a weak low blow. Yeah. And then you obviously have to be, like, well, what's wrong with that person that they're going at someone's look?
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Tell me how you're feeling again.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
for her speed reading skills oh my god i love how the two of us like i am i have to actively try to talk slower like i can talk so fast i'm like oh my god you're here like i'm sorry i'm so excited to go try that like it's crazy yeah so fast and i'm like slow down i didn't think that about you like i did not think of you as like this like really fast talker because you're so like like put
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
together. Okay. When I'm having fun with someone, which I am right now, like I feel like we're actually having girl talk where like some interviews I'm like more doing the interviewing. Like I don't want to be a part of the conversation. I want it to be about that. But I feel like our vibe is just like, Oh, I love like having people. Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
You know what I mean? are you judging me bitch yeah for sure no i feel that and so but then because you talk fast like my best friend lauren talks so fast that i feel the same way with you where i'm like then i'm just gonna match your energy oh yeah and then when i do talk fast people are like what like what the fuck
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
so I feel like people will like it like I know I get on comments on my podcast like how my ADHD like thanks you because they just like want to keep up like keep going and that's actually such a good point like people can just be like shut the fuck up get to the point yeah we're getting there we're getting we're moving fast okay before you go okay can you just speed read this little message to the daddy gang okay you can read through it it's literally a bunch of like nonsense it's just like happy new year oh okay I love it I just thought it would
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
jealous and then obviously when you get your Spotify deal I was just like oh my god you know I was I was that person who was so jealous dude it's so funny because I remember just like watching you on YouTube so often and I would be so jealous of you because before I started my career I'm like I wish I had Trisha's platform I wish I could like sit on YouTube and like do what she does that's crazy because I was like alone and crying all the time
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
like I wish I could be that person that is so crazy that we're both like oh I was jealous of you oh for sure I definitely was I definitely was just like I don't get call her daddy I definitely was so when I did this I was like all I know is that clip is gonna be resurfacing so let me just go ahead and say it it's so funny because I had one of my really good friends now she went on a podcast at one point and was like I don't get the call her daddy girl stick it's so fucking dumb why are they acting like that they're like acting like little whores like
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
i i'm the first person and i think that we can talk about that too with your career of like by having a career on the internet you just say so much stuff and half of the time in the beginning days i felt like i also said stuff that i regret and i remember in those og days back in the day with my old co-host like we when we started to get desperate for views we would like
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
say stuff about celebrities and I'm so deeply embarrassed that we said those things but I know it wasn't coming from a place of like actually being like mean girls it was I know from my POV it was genuinely just like how do we stir shit up yeah and if you can teeter this line that's so unhealthy and you just become like how do we get more how do we get more oh yeah and I'm like why did I say that so if that clip resurfaces I wouldn't give a
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
You guys, we literally went through. Okay, no, we are doing it again.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
No, but I also think that comes from a place too of like people on the internet then probably like writing to you being like saying mean things about like, oh, I get it now, like relevancy or like age as a woman. And it's like, as a woman, if you're past the age of 21, you're like old as fuck. Oh yeah. And you're outdated. And so naturally that's going to cause resentment of like,
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
us feeling like when you see younger girls but really we shouldn't be mad at younger girls we should be mad at society and mainly men being the ones that tell us like after a certain age you're not valued anymore thousand percent true right right exactly you I love it I know it's true it is true I want to talk about you going to LA so you graduate high school and I remember reading like the day after you moved to LA yeah like literally the day of yeah
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Talk to me about all the food that you can eat because you're pregnant.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
What was your plan and what was your job when you got to L.A.?
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Trisha's like I can go I love how fast you can talk you're like I can go through my entire life story literally I'm like Trisha we need to like get an hour I'm like we're at 18 and I'm like we gotta get to 35 okay first of all I'm dying at your math comment because I was so fucking bad at math shout out to Oscar he was this kid in my math class that he would I would sit next to Oscar
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
And I would pretend I'm writing my whole math class doing nothing. Then when Oscar was done his, he would hand me his test and I would hand him my test and he would take my test for me. And he would like even like change like his writing to be more girly. And then Oscar would hand me back my test and I would go hand it in. And I'm like, Oscar, I knew he was like going to Harvard or something.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
And I was just like not meant for math. And I just knew like there's going to be a phone for a reason that has a calculator. I don't need to know like the square root of things. You manifested or you knew? There was already cell phones back then.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
You're growing a baby. You're allowed to just like shove food into your mouth and no one can get mad at you or judge you. It's like, fuck off. I'm pregnant. Leave me alone.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Honestly, I absolutely will take credit for that. I'm dead. Yes, I absolutely made the iPhone happen for sure, 100%. And then I – no, I was like – I just knew I didn't need math in my fucking life because I knew I wanted to be in entertainment. Did you ever cheat in school? No, I've never had friends, so –
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Let's talk about you saying so casually when you're talking this fast, you're like, okay. And then I'm going to just, I love it. You said you have an hour. So I was like, let's get it in an hour. Our podcast goes like three and a half hours.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
No, I was more saying, Tricia, we need to at least get to an hour. You're going to talk about your whole life story in 30 seconds. You're like, okay. So you got finally after like you were in LA for a second, you were having some success and then you just casually were like, and then I became a stripper and an escort, but not really. What happened?
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
You're napping and you're eating.
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
Were you scared at all whenever you were stripping? Like, were there any moments where you, like, got into situations where you're like, I am, like, a little scared?
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Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)
I guess at the time you just didn't get scared because you don't think about it, right? No, I get that. I think it's, like, when you almost, like, can get into something that you just kind of fall into. And then you can almost just, like, keep going down that rabbit hole. And you almost don't know when, like, to stop or when to, like, check yourself. Because, again, you're right at that age.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
All of us. What would you say? Cause like, I think you're right. And I love how you described that. I think so many people can be judgmental if you don't follow like the traditional route. Like it's like 21 is too young, but then like 30 is too old. It's like, you can't fucking win as a woman.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
What do you, what was like the best and then the hardest parts of like being married in your early twenties?
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
like you had that stability even though like externally it looked all chaos because your life is like you're thriving you're a movie star you get to go home to this guy and you're like this is what I prefer like a cozy great vibe vibe yeah like I think something I was reading about you that I think is really relatable it's like you talk about how when your marriage ended you still had like so much love for this person and I'm wondering if you have any advice for
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
women listening of like maybe someone just went through a breakup and they're still so in love with their ex but they know they need to move on like how the fuck do you do that let's be very clear like if i didn't have children i probably would never speak to them stop i'm kidding
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
It's a great point. I love everything you just said, because I think I had a conversation. I think it was with Camila Cabello and she was like, yeah, like it's tough. Like where does the love go? Like when you break up with someone that you love so much, it's a strange thing to know. Like they're alive and they're out there and I'm here and,
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
But what did she, is that? No, she basically just said like, it hurts, but it's like, you know, it's not supposed to be anymore. It was, we change constantly as people. Like I'm the same person, but a different version of myself when I was 21. Oh my God, I was madly in love. I'm not in love with him anymore, but I still, yes, I think you're right.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
I choose to know that I still have love for all of these people that I loved. I think when it ends really badly, if someone like, did you fucking dirty and cheated on you and you find out and you're like, oh my God, I think you never respect me. Fuck. that can hurt. But again, it's like, how did it get to that point? I, you can always look back at yourself and be like, could I have done this?
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Or could I have done that? And sometimes they're just a piece of shit and you're like, you couldn't have done any better.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
It's not coming from anything you need from the outside world. I think that the concept of accountability and relationships is like not talked about enough. And I love that you brought up because it also gives you so much more autonomy over your own life when you actually take accountability as opposed to being like, he did this to me. And he's like,
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Like abusive. Put all of that aside. Right. Yeah. If someone's making you feel a certain way, like you have the ability to control your own emotions and your actions and what you're doing and how you're reacting. Yeah.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
No, it's a great point. It's like sometimes we also, I think people, and it depends on where you're at. I think health wise, it's like I, when I was younger, oh, blinders on. I'm like, he told me this. I'm like, no, he didn't. No, he didn't. He didn't say that to me. I'm like pretending to, I'm like short-term memory.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
And it was because I wanted what I wanted and I wasn't listening to what was being said directly to my face. Right. It's like, oh, you're an idiot. Like he literally told you he's cheated on his last 17 girlfriends. What'd you think was going to happen? I'm going to change him. No, you're not.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
later in my 20s i was like i'm exhausted like absolutely get the fuck away from me if you're like playing games but in my early 20s like it kept my heart beating i was like this is a thrill and it was just all because like i didn't want stability at that point i didn't you gotta learn right yeah you gotta be like right yeah um i have scenarios for you because you have wisdom i'm gonna give you a scenario and i want to know if you would keep seeing the guy or if this would be a deal breaker
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
I'm going to give you a scenario. I want to know if you would keep seeing the guy or if this would be a deal breaker. Okay. Okay. You catch him going through your phone and he says it's because you've been distant. How long have I been with him? You've been together for eight months.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
on my ipad or my computer whatever it's like on my phone it's like ding someone just logged into your macbook your boyfriend is on your stop and did you confront did you end it it was already on the way out okay it was like it's good to know yeah have you ever gone through a phone oh yeah are you kidding
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Oh, my God. It's my favorite hobby back in the day.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Well, I think it's incredible you're doing it also because you have a really good voice. Oh, thanks. Like, no, but I think sometimes, like, to be honest, I think people are always like, oh, God, another fucking actress is going to now try to do a singing career or vice versa. Like, yeah, the singer goes to try to act. I'm listening to you and I'm like, oh, you have a fucking great voice.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
It was a fabulous game. Okay. But when you play the game and you find things, how do you handle it? Because most of the time they're like, oh, it's null and void. You went through my fucking phone, you crazy bitch. Yeah. Okay.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Or I know you were here. How do you know that? Because I have a friend that's the bartender and she was there and she saw you. Oh, it's so fun. I've done all of it. And that's the best is when you know they've fucked you over and then you come up with the best live all time. And it's like, oh my God, I'm an Olympian. They can't even believe it. And they're like sweating. God.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
And you're like, you know what's really sad? I used to do this. It's like, I know everything. And then they'd go like pale white. And so I told you, like, I know everyone in New York. So when you go to the great white and you're there and you're having drinks with her, like, what do you think I was going to do? You think I wasn't going to know? And he's like shitting his pants.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Meanwhile, I didn't have any friends at the great white. Just saw on his phone that he was like, meet me at the great white. But you make it up and then you get out of it unscathed. But people wonder why women should rule the world.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
The difference is we get notifications that you're hacking into our computers. We come up with lies. You didn't even know we went into your fucking iPhone.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
We give them more credit for sure than it actually is. Half the time. If they're giving you like, if you get a weird vibe, the weird vibe is right. Like they're cheating or they're doing like, yeah. Sometimes women will be like, well, maybe it's because his grandmother was not feeling well. So maybe he's been acting weird. No, no, no. It's what you think it is. He's cheating.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
And then you call the number. You meet up with the girl. You get cocktails. You laugh about it. No, you have to look at it, though. You're right. It's comedy because sometimes men are so dense. I also love men. And sometimes men are so simple. And they're really just showing you their cards immediately.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Sometimes you want a little burner phone action. So, no, I think that's such a good point, though. It's like, ladies, stop ignoring the fucking signs. If it's right in front of you, it's probably what it looks like. But it's hot.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Right. it's almost like when the girl dinners, because every, all girlfriends talk about each other and it's not even like behind your back. It's like, Oh God, she's with him again. Like we know he's going to cheat again and we love her to death from that. When it gets to like, I don't even want to fucking hear about it. Like you've literally exhausted all of us. That's when it gets scary.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Cause you're like, now you've alienated yourself and we feel bad as opposed to be like, Jessica, what are you doing with him again?
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
you you know it's like or or like support it that that's hard it gets that's hard yeah that's hard okay he's really close friends with his ex oh interesting like how close is close like they get lunch i would say every month every other month and they have a kid nope oh problematic mm-hmm
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
I agree. I think it does depend sometimes on like, did you meet the, like, did you know the ex before? this is fucking confusing me. Like, did you know the person before or after? Like if my best friend became best friends with my ex, I'd be like, why the, where's the fucking loyalty? Like you didn't know him before me. I think it, you know what I mean? Okay.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Okay. Here we go. You mean if you're bestie, I'm dating a guy. Okay. Right. My best friend meets him, likes him. Woo. We break up and she stays friends with him. Odd. It depends. I guess it depends how it ended. How it ended. It depends. He ruined my life. He cheated on me.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
No, I think I think it's also just about like respect, like communicate with your fucking friends. If you're staying friends with your girl's ex and you guys are like in love. Well, OK, I'm going to give you a scenario. OK.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Okay, you said the only moment I hang out with her is, like, in big friend groups. Yeah.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
We've never gone to a lunch. You don't text. No. Oh, my God. She can't be mad.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
That's networking. How are we supposed to meet anyone?
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
then what does that mean you know and so I kind of also had to just let it go let that go and well I also think what you were saying is your lyrics like as I was like going through your music I'm like oh so much of your lyrics are about love and your relationships and heartbreak and moving on and knowing when to move on and like Romeo I feel like is like a great summer bop
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
i don't know you right like if you can't be mad at me no that's crazy yeah that's fucking crazy it's it's if it's your best friend that's it i'm that's it it's all that matters yeah well if it's like even even a like a close friend a close friend of course yeah then you can have a conversation of like this is also tough where it's like it's awkward it's like but like girls who throw shade to girls that like are dating there but they don't know them i i think that's i think that's weird it's
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
No, you got to move on. And I also think if you don't have their phone number, you owe them literally nothing. I agree. Okay. Okay. I like that. We're moving on. He has an extremely high sex drive and is trying to go every day twice a day. I mean, I'm not mad at it.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Did I read this correctly that your therapist once told you to take a break from men for a year?
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Right, you got to like get off the sauce, Kate. He's like, get off the sauce.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Being single is incredible. If you're like in the right place and like you're mentally focused on yourself, you're like, I am fucking great. I don't need anyone. And that's where you want to get to when you're single.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
I also love that you go to the complete opposite side and it's like, love ain't easy. And I'm like,
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
I have empathy for women that when you get through out of a relationship, you almost have those withdrawal symptoms of like, oh my God, I'm used to having a partner. I'm used to having them here. And then you get good at being alone.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
you're just like flexing your vocals i'm like holy fucking shit it's like a beautiful i guess ballad or like and it's gorgeous but so much of listening to it i felt like i got to know you a little bit more and i want to talk a little bit about that today because i'm like okay uh-oh when you were growing up how was sex and dating discussed in your household in our house yeah oh i mean i have very open you know
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
But I think that's a great thing for all the women listening to think about. It's like... when you're single, you get anxious of like, okay, like I need to find who's my next person. Like, oh my gosh, like my clock, like what am I going to do? And it's like, if you just chill half the time when you get to the end, you're like, oh, I don't need anyone. Like they gotta be fucking great.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
You and Danny had known each other for 15 years. Yeah. before you guys got together?
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Good for you because I think it's like incredible when you find – I love when you find people in your life that you – like I can tell you're like – you're glowing when you talk about him.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Right. Like you may be with someone that's right in front of you, but you're like, but that's not what I wanted. And you're like, but if it's right, it's right. Like don't run away just because it's not your vision board, bitch. Like throw out Pinterest. That's right.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
What does independence look like for you in a relationship? Great question.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
that you're gonna call me at 11 but you call me at two like that's gonna not create independence yeah for either of us no i think it's a great point i could talk about this shit all day long i love it i could talk to you forever because i love having insightful conversations where we don't have the same background so i'm interested to hear like oh like what is your take on this yeah i'm also like a full disclaimer i should just wear like i don't know what i'm talking about
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
No, but women should run the world. So like, okay. Um, this album, I think it's incredible because like I said, you have an incredible voice, but the songwriting is phenomenal. And knowing that you said you have like hundreds of songs, just like in your house, how did you decide what you were going to put into this album? We just started fresh.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
So, well, that's why I'm like listening to like the push and pull and moving on. Like there's a lot, that's why I wanted to talk to you about you. And I think that's when people connect the most with lyrics when they get to know someone more. And I can, I'm telling you, my fans fucking love music. So they're gonna be like, okay, now that we've
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
No, I can't thank you enough for coming on. I had such a fabulous time getting to know you and I'm so excited that I got to sit with you for this long to talk about all the girl things, but talk about the music because it is intertwined. Like you said, this album is about love and the experiences that you've had. And I think it's inspiring, honestly.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
I think some people feel like constrained to like, that was the one love of my life. You can have so many loves of your lives and you can have so many loves and you can love people in different ways and you shouldn't look back at your past in a negative way. Like every chapter is a new chapter and just like lean in and have a good time. Yeah.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
OK, last question that I know you have to go. What is your favorite song?
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Well, thank you so much for coming on. This was truly so fun. You're fabulous. Thank you.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
I think that's a good point. Cause I feel like not to shit on the kids that's parents were so strict, but I had a similar upbringing where like my parents were like very open about things. So I was never like, I want to go experiment and do all this shit behind their back because fuck you, you're making me stay home.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
I felt like I was lucky to have that, but I can see a lot of kids where you can go the opposite way because if your parent tells you not to do something, you naturally want to do it sometimes. Yeah. So if you have people that are talking openly about, especially I think for women, about like not actual sex, like your mom's not like, Kate, let me tell you about this. But when you're, well, did she?
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
No. I mean, not when I was young. What were you like with guys growing up? Like, were you confident?
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Okay. So you're kind of like in an entire new phase of your life right now with this new venture of music. Congratulations. Well, only in public. Right. You know what I mean?
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Were you bullied at all? I'm still pretty straight. Like were you awkward? Totally. Really? Totally.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
That makes sense. Where girls are just like, she's fucking annoying. And then you're like, what? Because I know what I want to do.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
I get that it didn't bother me right you're not judging them for doing the keg stand no you've like got the hair tie ready yeah and I just didn't I just wasn't I wasn't like that but I think when you're at a place in your life where you're like don't feel like you're in the same position as people like mentality wise it's hard to fit in anywhere like if you're like ready to move on and everyone's like we're loving this like we're going to the tailgate tonight and you're like stab me
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Mine was, I definitely like, I had a similar experience where like, I was ready to get out. Like I knew I wanted to do all of this. Like I was like the video production nerd, but I was also at the same time, the jock.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
So like I hid from everyone that I liked video production and I would like lie to everyone they're like why are you doing that for your elective every year I'm like I don't know they said like I'm good it's so annoying but whatever it's easy like I would lie because I was embarrassed because everyone would make fun of me for like liking that shit. Right. And I was the jock.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
So they're like, you're the soccer girl. Like you can't be both. And kind of what we talked about at the beginning of this episode, it's like, you can never be both. And I think, especially for women, it's like, you definitely can't be both. That can't be possible. And I was insecure. Like I was super awkward and gawky. Aren't we all? And like, it wasn't great, but I do look back.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
And in the moment I was like, fuck my fucking life. I need to get to college. Then when I got to college, I was like, I'm ready to go to New York city. Get me the fuck out of here. Like, I feel like at every stage of my life in those like scholastic moments, I was like, I'm ready to leave. I'm not meant to be here. But then I look back and I'm like, I learned so much about myself.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
That's what I think is interesting. When you think of like Kate Hudson, everyone's like actress. Is it terrifying to come out with music or are you like excited? Are you nervous?
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
you know the sort of no you're right it's like sometimes I think we have a hard time pinpointing like the positives in situations like I found an old laptop from college and I had some like fucked up shit happen to me in college and I looked back at like this really specific time in my life as like negative and I remember opening my laptop and like almost getting so emotional because I'm like
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
I had the best time. Like I fucking love these girls and I love these people. And I love, so like when there's something negative that happens, it's hard to remember all the positive, but most of our brain does sort of lean, you know, more to the, unfortunately to the negative. Yeah. True.
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Kate Hudson: A Year Without Men (FBF)
Yeah. Did anyone around you be like, Kate, please don't get married right now? No.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
So does that answer your question about my dynamic? It is interesting. And you have one sibling?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Yeah. I, yeah, I feel like a lot of people that I've talked to, I have such empathy for people that whether literally or just like by age kind of had a upbringing that you're essentially an only child, like your sister being so much older than you, like you were in the house alone. And I feel like a lot of times when there's such chaos from the parents, like there is
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
I found you can have such an emotional connection to siblings because you can look at someone to your right and your left and be like, oh, we're going through the same shit. Whereas when you're an only child, essentially in those moments, you can only internalize, think what's wrong with me or hate what's going on around you and try to do the complete opposite of what your parents did.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
I feel like obviously we've seen in movies, you play just like the most popular hot girl. And when you got to high school, because I know you said when you were younger, you were very tomboyish, you would be alone.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
That's really actually interesting to hear because I was going to say, like, on one hand, it is a survival mechanism for you to get through. But I'm also like, isn't that lonely? Yeah.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious before we do get into that, when people probably think of Megan Fox in high school, they're like, I would have killed to look like you. Did you have insecurities?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
just like a plebeian or like a mindless brainwashed sheep i think most of us today are mindless sheep because i feel that way sometimes when i'm on social media too much i'm like what is happening up here like i i'm not when is last time i had an original thought i'm mindlessly scrolling yeah we gotta get it gives me anxiety like i have group chats with my friends and they'll send me links to things but i don't keep like the instagram app downloaded or anything like that but
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Solve that problem. Honestly, girl, get it. I was going to – yeah, because I was going to ask you like I know you've been open about body dysmorphia and I know that doesn't just go away. And like where do you think that control of – because that's essentially a control thing of like you're trying to control how you look.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Like what were you – what do you think now you look back you're trying to achieve?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
You're, Ex-husband made headlines recently when he said that you never got to experience being a single young woman because you guys met when you were only 18 and he was 31 at the time. Do you agree with him? Like, do you feel like you missed out on anything because of that relationship?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
and then then you just met that guy yeah i thought i was really gonna go full like leo dicaprio for a while that would have been really like fun to watch everyone says that um everyone agrees i now need to know because you reference in the beginning of this interview like it literally makes your skin crawl when you think about marriage but you did get married like how did you decide to do that
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Yeah. Yeah. I think that's something that's like fascinating when you get into therapy, you're like, oh fuck. Like I'm just, I literally said I didn't want to be like my mother and I'm turning into my mother and it's on us obviously to like take some accountability of our lives to be like, pause. How do I try to change this? But it's really fucking hard to not do what we saw growing up.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
When I think about you and sense the rise of your career, I feel like your name in the public eye has been synonymous with the phrase sex symbol, right? How does that make you feel?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
30 seconds? Megan's like, get me the fuck out of here.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
As I'm listening to you, first of all, it's fucking exhausting. I cannot imagine. And what you're sharing with me in the beginning of this being like, at such a young age, I looked in the mirror and I was like, I literally cannot connect with my physical appearance. And it's so hard for me to look at myself and be like, is that me in the mirror? I don't feel that way.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
To know the eating disorders and the body dysmorphia, like what you were going through, how exacerbated it then became because you became famous. If you had to say, and I know there's like no answer, but like, why do you think people are so obsessively trying to pick at you and pull you down I don't know I think like if I were to try and speak about it from a spiritual angle that's
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
It's such a good way to look at it. And it's fucking terrifying. And I think... I think that as I'm sitting here listening to you, like... I also just have to acknowledge you are conventionally a beautiful woman. You have been called in certain years the most beautiful woman in the world. And I think people cannot accept that you could have it all. You can't be this beautiful and be smart.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
You can't be that beautiful and be a good person. And I think it brings so many... insecurities out in people when they look at you. I think for women, like I remember I just saw a TikTok of this woman who was like, I just lost a hundred pounds and my life is so different because I used to walk in rooms and women would befriend me and men treated me like shit and now it's the opposite.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
I walk in a room and every fucking woman looks at me like a threat and every man is opening the door for me, treating me like a queen. And I'm like, whoa, I just lived two different fucking experiences in a year. And I'm like, which one would I choose? But I think you threaten women because you're confident and beautiful and educated and smart. And we're all like, fuck you. You can't be like that.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
But to men, I mean, I was going to read this to you. I was like, what the fuck is wrong with the world? I read an old article, okay? And they described you as... a screensaver on a teenage boy's laptop, a middle-aged lawyer's shower fantasy, and a sexual prop used to sell movies. Like the objectification of you, Megan Fox is so much larger than you.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
It is like the embodiment of misogyny and what's wrong with our fucking society. And it's terrifying even hearing though it come from your own voice of like, I didn't ask for this. I'm not out there selling my body and my soul to this. Like I'm just trying to do my job and somehow people are like, take her the fuck down.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
are you a night owl no but i find that interesting because you've interviewed so many rappers and i did i refuse to believe that they showed up on time or in the daylight okay offset didn't show up on time but it was the daylight but no i have never done a late night interview but i do feel like it's kind of a vibe you might end up loving it okay
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
I was going to say, it's also just like this vicious cycle. Like you said, like everyone builds someone up. We've seen it with so many stars online. And then the minute you're at the top, they break you down. And I already know it. It's like if you disappear again and you go away, oh my God, we miss Megan. It happened to me twice.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Something I also noticed about you is you just announced kind of that you have like a whole new sleeve tattoo on Instagram.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
It's even making me think as you're just talking and I'm staring at you, you are so bright and you have so much to offer. And it makes me sad because I know so many people will listen to this and be like, wait, she's actually like really fucking dope, but it shouldn't take you sitting for an hour and talking. If you're a kind person, you've never done anything to anyone.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
What was the story behind that? Like how did you decide to do that?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
So you shouldn't have to prove yourself, but it's like frustrating that there's, there's this pull and push on the internet and you just can't fucking win. And I'm sorry, you have to deal with that. Um, I'm curious, like how did, how did and how has this like
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
extreme focus on your look and body impacted your relationship to sex that's a good question I have Virgo on my eighth house so Megan you gotta like talk to the girlies that are like bitch I have no idea what you're talking about I know I know I'm trying I think google it yeah you gotta you gotta deeply google to understand what I'm talking about there but I
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
I can't, I can't keep doing that. I'll just bump it on your face when you do it. Okay.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy. Megan Fox, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you. I am so happy we are doing this tonight. Same. And I say tonight, which is crazy. I have never done an interview this late in my life. It's 10 o'clock at night. Mm-hmm.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
I'm traumatized that you think that your nose won't look good right now because I'm like, the fuck does my nose look like?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Wait. After this, can you teach me how you contour your nose and I'll do it next to you?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
You look so gorgeous. You're going to keep going. This is good for you. This is good for you. She's got to keep going. Okay. So you've had your nose done. You've had your tits done. And what? Botox and filler? Yeah, that's it, right?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
wearing a body that didn't feel like my body because i always wanted it to be different yeah i appreciate you sharing that though because i think you're right it's like to the women that are shaming women for getting work done if you are so triggered that probably means you have an insecurity where have you maybe you've thought of getting fillers or botox or something but maybe you're too scared so then you shame women that have done it it's like why if and if you don't want it why do you care if another woman gets it it's all projection and
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
When someone is so angry looking at you, it is based in some form of jealousy. Like we have to just call it what it is.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Like, can we talk about your book for a second? Yeah. So you released your book, Pretty Boys Are Poisonous. And you basically write about the fact that you have your entire life kept the secrets of men, which, again, if anyone asks, like, why? It's like we kind of talked about that today. It's like, well, what the fuck? If you say it, no one believes you or they shame you or they call you a whore.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Like, there's certain reasons why women don't come forward and say these things. And you wrote a lot about it. in this book one of the things one of the common themes I wrote down was like throughout the book you talk about minimizing yourself in order to make a man or men feel comfortable and confident and important
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
When was the first time you remember doing that in a relationship, like bringing yourself down?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Have you ever had someone that like had a very strong opinion to be like, you're not allowed to wear that or don't?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Another theme is toxicity in the book. I wanted to read you this particular line. I prefer the agonizing psychological abuse of this trauma bond. to the prosaic tedium of a regular life. Why do you think you gravitate towards toxicity over stability? Because stability sounds boring.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
It just healed. It was just fine. Someone that you know also got a lot of new ink and I have to ask about it or I would get roasted on the internet. MGK. Should I call him MGK? Sure. Or Coulson or MGK. Whatever you want. He...
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
There was a time where I had never heard a man call me stupid, pathetic, bitch, cunt, slut, idiot. And there was also a time when I had never felt a man's hands hit me, suffocate me, or throw me to the ground. But now if one of those things hasn't happened by Wednesday, I consider it a miracle. When I read that to you, how does it make you feel?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Do you remember the first time that a man hit you?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
I have to be so careful. No, of course, of course. I guess I could just ask, like, once something happens more than once, there's a way that you can almost... I don't want to say, like, normalize it, but you have... You do. You acclimate to it, yeah. When it happened the first time... Do you remember your reaction and like how you handled it and moved?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
I think that's like really relatable and that's how fucked up it is to be a woman like we're trained to like make men feel like you're it's okay like make them feel comfortable also because I think it's a survival mechanism because yeah if you can deescalate a situation with a man.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
you you don't know how much farther that was gonna go so our brain goes to it's like i was talking to my therapist about this the other day she was like i call it like the blowjob effect it's like when you're about to get sexually abused or something's about to happen it's like you can rationalize like okay if i just give him a blowjob that will stop me from having to have sex with him and then people will shame you like you gave him a oh so then but so you did it's like you don't know what's gonna happen they could have a gun they could try to fucking kill you we we'd
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
know what men are capable of and so there's moments where it's just survival again i think it's such a privileged standpoint when people would be like what do you mean you soothed him i know exactly what you mean you immediately go into survival mode of how do i completely de-escalate the situation the poem you wrote called rape did anyone in your life know that you had survived that type of sexual abuse before you wrote this poem yeah
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Did your family reach out to you once the book came out? No. Interesting. Did that shock you? No. I'm so sorry. That's okay. I mean, that's, But that's telling of the relationship.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
We're going to move on to your relationship a little bit. Okay. Okay. Mr. MGK.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
we're gonna move on to your relationship a little bit okay okay mr mgk obviously this book has a lot of heavy topics and i know you clarified on multiple um interviews you did like i'm not just writing about one person i'm talking about my life experience but how did that book just like impact your relationship in the moment did it open wounds did you have to have a
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
They are Megan. They definitely are. They're, Go read the book, everyone. I feel like everyone has such an opinion on your guys' relationships. You got engaged, then I think it was called off, then we don't know what's going on with you. How would you describe your relationship with MGK?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Yeah. I mean, yeah, I think the reality is like reading your book, I was like, holy fuck. This is – some of this is traumatizing. This is scary. This is sad. This is –
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
really relatable like i think and i think that's what you just explained you wanted to do with the book is like i think a lot of women which is unfortunate and sad for us as women that a lot of people can be like uh-huh i've experienced that and that and that and i think what's sad is like so many people probably don't know how many women have gone through that how many women have normalized getting hit or getting verbally physically emotionally abused like it's
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
it's everywhere it's one in three women like it's so fucking prevalent and I think our culture likes to just turn a blind eye and pretend it's not happening so like I appreciate you writing the book but I agree I think a lot of people are like
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
you okay like are we still in this relationship and that's for you to decide like I don't think I think you're right it's like for everyone fuck off you're gonna decide what you're gonna do and also he gets to write his fucking music yeah and I think you as an actor it's not like you get to be like let's change this role to be more like that like this is a an expression for you that I bet was like healing in a way to be like put it out and let it go yeah it also is written just from the like one
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Well, I was going to say, guys, it's raining right now. There's thunderstorms in LA. We've got candles going. This makes sense for a Megan Fox episode. When you are like late night by yourself, your kids are asleep. What is your favorite thing to do at night usually?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
How have you gotten to a place in your life where you do not give a fuck about what other people think and their opinions? I have not gotten to that place in my life. Oh, wait, Megan, I thought you did. No, no. No, no, we still care.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
How do you as a mother handle knowing people are like going to try to get at your kids through you and knowing you? Like are you –
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
what's ahead and i'm i'm not prepared emotionally to have to do it i can't do it it's a lot yes okay you're gonna give the girls i thought you said they were fun it's right here right here right here okay you are funny by the way thank you we should do like a part two where we only talk about funny shit okay we just let you go okay i want to get your take on a
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
What would you say to someone who, and then like it's a girl going through it. Okay. This girl sees a hot guy at a bar, but it's too nervous to go up to him and make the first move. What would you say to her?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Megan. It's not. You're like, you're the same bitch that's getting fucking cum in your mouth. Like go home. It's not going to be worth it. Go home. It's not going to be good. Would you ever go up and approach a guy?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
I agree. What if a girl keeps comparing herself to her best friend? How do you stop comparing yourself to women? That's a great question.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
prayers for colson yeah um i was thinking about as i was reading those comments i'm like the internet is such a wild place what is the craziest rumor you've ever heard about yourself on the internet there's lots of those we could talk about that for a while let's talk about it okay let's talk about it um i guess one of the ones that's very persistent
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
just all others sucks okay what if a girl is hung up on a guy who ghosted her after a date what do we do megan i don't know i can't be friends with that person you can't be friends with the girl no no what do you mean is that rude i can't be friends with that person
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Okay, we're not friends with her. Okay, what about a girl that's too afraid to tell her partner that she's never had an orgasm? Well, you gotta just, you gotta do that.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Amen. Okay, Megan, last question. What do you think this next chapter of your life will look like for you? I feel like you're about to disappear.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Well, we'll be looking for you. Megan Fox, thank you so much for calling me on Call Her Daddy. This was overdue, and it was perfect. Thank you.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
I was actually a bartender in college. I was horrible. I remember this one guy, I'm at the bar, it's like my third night on the job and he is asking me for an old fashioned. Then he asks me for a Manhattan and I keep being like, sir, you know what? We're actually, we're out of those ingredients. Or I'm like, I just feel like that's not like your vibe tonight.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Like, I don't really think you wanna drink that. And he's like, okay, what do I want? I literally got him a cup of ice and I just poured tequila in it. And I was like, here, drink what I drink. That was just my lazy way of saying like, I don't know how to make any of that, sir, but smile and everything's gonna be okay. I mean, he gave me a fat tip. Work smarter, not harder.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
But today I don't need to be a mixologist. I have the two ingredients that I need. I'm actually gonna add a third. So water, revolutionary. This cocktail calls for two ounces of Patron tequila. Boom. Today, I am using the Reposado. I'm a Reposado girl. Next, we are gonna do the Kiwi Pineapple Unwell Hydration. This is gonna be the drink of summer. I can already feel it.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
We're gonna fill it up almost to the top with Unwell, and we're gonna do a splash of club soda. I'm someone that likes a little bit of bubbly, but not too much. A little bit of hum. And now, kiwi. Yeah, I got fresh kiwi for this. Oh wait, you guys, you know how bartenders do that where it's like a little... Wait, does that look cute? Was this unnecessary? Yes.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
With tequila, you're gonna need a little bit of that pineapple. Oh my god. I mean, gorge. Does that look so bad? Maybe we'll put it in there. Is that weird to put in there? I'm gonna put a glob of... I'm gonna put a piece of pineapple in my drink. That looks disgusting. Cut this. This literally makes me think about my wedding.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
I kept having Patron and just like a splash of pineapple because when you're on the beach, like I feel like that's all you want. This is delicious. And on the side of your Patron, Little guacamole. Never hurts. Woo! Daddy gang, thank you so much for making this drink with me and Patron. I'm so excited for you guys. Tag me if you make this cocktail. Tell me what you think.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
I kind of was born to be a bartender. Let's not lie. Cheers. Thanks, Patron. Love ya. The perfect way to enjoy Patron is responsibly. Copyright 2025. Imported by the Patron Spirits Company. Coral Gables Florida Tequila. 40% ABV.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
These are the facts we really needed to discuss today, Megan. We could end the interview here, you know what I mean? Because this is the hard-hitting truth, and I appreciate the honesty, because when you give us a little context, it does kind of make fucking sense. Yeah. And you're right. Like anyone can look at it anyway.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
Like just like Christianity when they're like drinking wine and they believe it's the blood of Christ. Like everyone has their thing. Like let everyone fucking live. What do you give a shit? Are you drinking someone's blood? No. So why do you fucking care if I do? Like it doesn't matter. But this is a great point about the come.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
And we should circle back on that for the women at the end of this episode. Really talk about who should be coming inside of you and your mouth. And yeah, I appreciate this. What other rumors? Do you have any that come to mind? Oh, that's just the main one.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
But you're here to chop down the tree and be like, it never fucking happened.
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
But it is kind of a testament to like, everything they see on social media is face value. And it's like, it's not that deep. It was Halloween. Let's go back to the beginning, Megan Fox. What were you like as a kid?
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Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (FBF)
That'll do it for you. Yeah. I remember my friend was reading it. She was like, Alex, I'm not kidding you. I keep waking my boyfriend up in the middle of the night because I'm like, I'm reading about fairies, but something get me going. I'm like, I don't understand it. Maybe I need to read it.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Point blank. You know what I mean? And I feel like when you're also saying that, would it also but it would always somehow tie back to content.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
That's what I think a lot of people aren't able to, obviously, aren't privy to that information on the internet. You see these people, they're hanging out. Oh, my God, they're new friends. Most...
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
of the relationships that i have seen in la are transactional a thousand percent i don't know a lot of people that like genuinely when we're all home like for like holidays like those people are not conversing yeah being like hey girl like how are you doing like it's not like that it's all based on we're back in la you want to shoot a tiktok yes and it and and you're promoting i remember doing it in the beginning of my show when i co-host it was like we were promoting being like
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Best friends we had met like three months before Of course and it was like but you sell This like fun Lifestyle and it doesn't look Great I guess people think that if you're Standing with someone that doesn't have followers that's Actually your friend from your hometown right no one's interested In that but if you're standing next to
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
If I'm standing next to Tana Mongeau, that is logistically going to get more downloads and views than if my friend Jackie from home is going to be next to me. Like, who the fuck is that bitch? Yeah. So there is like an incentive to create these dynamics. But it's really dark.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Where was the intent? When did those type of dynamics, when did you wake up and they stop? Right.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Have you ever stayed in a friendship longer for fear of the public perception and the fallout?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
I'm burnt out. So I'm going to take a fucking break. When we talk about going through this hamster wheel process, it's so hard to explain like a tangible feeling that it is. And like I talk about it in therapy all the time. Like I started this podcast kind of like when you started YouTube and you didn't.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
have anything in mind of like a start or end date it was like I'm just gonna start this and then all of a sudden you wake up and you're like I've been doing this for years yeah and like who am I without my podcast yeah are you without YouTube who is totally and it's like it there's no light at the end of the tunnel it's also not like the type of thing that you can ever stop thinking about
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Most people listening to this podcast right now are the ones that you're referring to as your boss, my boss. They're listening to this and they're going to make a decision. Do we like Emma Chamberlain? Does the Daddy Gang like Emma Chamberlain?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
and and i'm sure it's okay if you guys don't know and i'm sure vice versa there's gonna be people that are like why there's people that don't like me and they'll be like why did emma go on alex's show and it's like people are unforgiving and ruthless on the internet and not only that they are excited when there's drama like there are there have been episodes where people are like i'm gonna cancel you for having that person on your show yeah but does it say more about me for having them on why are those episodes the most downloaded though of
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
You mentioned kind of having an identity crisis. You have an entire life to live. How do you see this public persona that you created basically as a child evolving into adulthood?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Okay. Did you watch The Reunion? No. Emma, you need to watch it. I don't know if anyone listening is a Harry Potter fan, but some people may consider me like Slytherin. I'm more of like a Gryffindor Hufflepuff.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
People like Slytherin, but I'm like, no, I'm Hufflepuff. Like, no, I'm not Gryffindor. You're Gryffindor. Anyways, it is fascinating because Emma Watson – Daniel Radcliffe, and I think it was Ron who was like, I love how I'm calling, see, I'm even calling them by those names, the characters.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
They literally said, they were like, when we stopped the movies, I genuinely felt uncomfortable when people called me my real name. I didn't feel like I could even identify with that name. Child stars or child performers or now internet kids that come up on the internet they are losing some of their identity in the characters that they're portraying.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
How did the growth of Emma Chamberlain stop when Emma Chamberlain, the internet character was born?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Well, and also your job. Yeah. Has flowed in not only to like your purpose and your hobby, but it's also flowed into like your actual lifestyle and living every part of my life. You can't go. You're not even 21. But if once you're 21, you can't go to a bar and not get recognized. Yeah. What you do in that bar is a direct reflection on your job, which is your purpose.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
And so every single aspect of your life is wrapped up basically in your job. Yeah. Which for some people is very normal. And for some people it's like, oh, I work a 95. And when fucking Friday hits, I am a different beast on the weekend. You don't have a weekend.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Walk me through social anxiety now with this platform.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
What are you doing though, like tangibles in order to try to find and redefine that identity that you're looking for?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
And how do you not like what are the what brings you back to not quitting?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
do to entertain myself I also hear when you're saying you're gonna give yourself that freedom to find things you like but then don't grab the camera and film it for content like no it's yours let it be yours yeah let a hobby be yours and don't be like oh this would make a good vlog yes like you there's got to be a line for yourself like no because then you're working like do it for yourself I can already feel like the tension you're like fuck I know and I know I've done it too where I'm like oh that was such a fun moment and then I have to exploit it on my podcast and I'm like
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
So, yeah. In terms of growing up basically on the Internet, you have – presented a very like pc brand and no sex no like we don't even know like has emma chamberlain ever had sex has she ever kissed a boy has she ever given like we don't know right how has people's fascination with your sexuality affected your sexuality yeah
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
This is Emma's pregnancy announcement right now. You guys, I'm pregnant. Like, no. It's like, goodbye.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Did that affect your relationship then with your boyfriend in terms of psychologically for you? Was it always?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Like trying to prove now you're straight. Like, no, I do like guys.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Is there anything that made you almost quit?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
I have never heard someone explain it like that, where your boss is the public. Every single creator said does exactly what you just said. You quickly say like and I'm not ungrateful and I'm not saying I'm not like so happy with what I have. That's not it. But in everyone's life, you have your struggles and you have your adversity that comes. Totally.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
It like creeps me out. You know what I mean? I will admit I'm a tomboy and I have been my whole life. And so my brand is weird because I was so over sexualizing myself that I felt imposter syndrome sometimes where I'm like, that's not actually the full truth. Like I don't, I'm not incredible in bed every night. That's the truth. Some days I'm really tired.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
And like, and so for me, it was like weird to acknowledge that. But for you, do you ever find yourself like pushing yourself to, try to be more feminine so that you feel something. Like, does that make sense? A thousand percent.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
And when you have millions of people every single day. Having not only an opinion on you but sort of a holdover whether you have a career or not. Right. It is a lot to fucking handle as a young adult.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
And it's like a fake confidence you give yourself. By acting it out, you're like, I can be this way.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
So, and that's what it is, is like anyone listening, like sometimes it just takes finding the right partner that you don't need to change yourself. You just need to find someone that like aligns with making you feel like you can be 100% authentically yourself around them. And when you do that, it's a beautiful place to be in. It really is. So this is Call Her Daddy. Yes, I have had sex, Alex.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Can you tell me, would, can you tell me when you lost your virginity or no?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
i'm not like i talk about it all the time so it's like not and you're not saying in your show you just mean in real life yeah like in real life i'm i am like i talk about it all the time so it's weird that time you were talking about it with me i'm not saying like even just sex she's not like emma's not like a nympho like i have so much sex you guys right but like it i was surprised i remember on that zoom how naturally
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
you discussed just like oh yeah like i loved that like i've listened to your show and i like and i was like oh shit i had no fucking idea your brand is very specific and it's not that you're avoiding it it's just it's not talked about well that's the thing it's like if something's not talked about then how are you supposed to like know how someone where someone stands on a topic and it's interesting because yeah i just like it's so bizarre to like talk about it but it's also
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
kind of fun okay because i feel like i'm old enough now like i'm finally old enough where i get to talk about it i was like the disney channel effect it was like when miley cyrus was like i have to go to such extreme and go like dance on a pole because like everyone sees me as a baby and i need them to not see me as that meanwhile she was like probably like fucking smoking weed on set at hannah montana like you know what i'm saying like there's there's so many things that like
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
The perceptions can pigeonhole you and then it does affect your identity. And so I can feel you being like, hey guys, like I'm 20. Yeah. I can say I've had sex before.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
That's okay. Even though your publicist may be like, don't say that.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
That's all. Dude, no one should ever be like, my first time was incredible. Like, no.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
It's like a movement, and then you're like, all right, we did it. Because it's like, one, you're not going to have an orgasm. It's not going to fit. You're not experienced. You don't know what you're supposed to be doing. You don't know what you're supposed to be feeling. It's almost like, let me just get through this. Not in like a creepy way.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
It's more just like, no one's going to be relaxed and chill.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
And really, I think the weird thing is, is like the as I've learned through my show is like it's really start with yourself. And a lot of people don't feel comfortable starting sexually with themselves until you get a little bit older. Right. Because there's like a lot of weird shame.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
And especially if you haven't felt this like feminine sexual energy, you're so in your head that to even like be by yourself and masturbating, you're already thinking outside of your body. about how I'm not sexual. This is weird. What am I? And you get in your head.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Like stop faking it. Like you're on top and you're like, this doesn't feel genuine.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
No, but I think it's okay to say in terms of like sexually, it's hard, especially growing up where there, I mean, I will admit like my show, as much as it probably gave women confidence, it also probably drew a big hole in people's sex lives being like, wait, I don't do that. And like, I've never, and then it's, you get insecure. Totally.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
And again, porn and everything makes you feel like you've got to be this like sexual,
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
deviant yeah and so when you're like again like a position like on top eyes are on you and you're like okay so i know i'm supposed to start like moaning and then like i should like throw my head back and like but naturally right now like i feel a little out of body imposter syndrome of like yeah i don't feel that yet and it's so it's weird but also like if you're like for me personally i'm not like i don't fucking like want it it doesn't excite me to like do crazy shit necessarily i just don't
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
I will also say like I think when what you're saying is the majority and totally norm and and but people publicly don't admit that. I know. And so it's like, let's just say it.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
And I think it's also like, I'm thinking about like the sex I was having at 20. Like I'm excited for you because it's like at 20,
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
I was faking things and I was performing and I knew like I it was it was all a game to me because I was like if I do this then he'll be obsessed with me and then blah blah and it was all right it kind of all corresponded to like a bigger goal of mine not just like the immediate bedroom but I do think as you get older and again as you get to know yourself sexually you begin to like actually find things that you know you like and then it's not even about vanilla sex it's like
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
what works for you you can start to implement in the bedroom totally not like you're faking it but you have to actually find those things by yourself okay let's move on um case like i'm gonna what gives you the ick like i'm gonna do some rapid fire and then we're done i know this is going so long we need to go i know really go for six okay no no i know and i actually like I like that. I agree.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Dude, I think that also like is really, yeah, it's like real and it's not like jarring. I thought you were going to say something crazier. Then I was like, oh, that's a good answer.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
I'm kidding. That's the promo of it. Okay, I'm going to go rapid fire and then we're done. I'm ready. What gives you the ick?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
You always look good. So anyone wondering who we're talking to, it's our mutual publicist on the right side who's been crying this entire interview.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Yeah, they're like flared sweatpants. No, she genuinely is slaying and nobody can tell me different. Anyways, okay. Have you ever been cheated on? You know. Emma, you're like, it can never be short.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Have you ever cheated on someone? No. No. What is the longest relationship you've ever been in? A year and like 10 months. Is that the one you're in right now? I will not say. Okay, fine. Better question after that. Do you own a vibrator? Yes. I have one downstairs. It's in a box. I got one when I was like 17. That's amazing. Who told you to get it? You just got it yourself?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Yeah. And I hate when people say like, then just don't do it. Yeah. I understand what you're saying, but I do love it. Totally. It's my passion. Mm-hmm. So then you have to basically I think what we're both saying is like it is there is no book that gives you here's a guideline. Right.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
It was somebody I was talking to at the time. Okay. What is the most hurtful thing someone has done to you in a relationship?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Could you share what do you argue about in this relationship? Not a lot. We don't argue. Can I ask you how you guys met? Through the internet. Why do you think fans have become so invested with gaining access and insight into your dating life?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
my life to like affect them are you frustrated when you do see like if like god forbid like a paparazzi thing comes out of you like how does that make you feel
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
This is there is no one that can tell you like this is exactly how you act the minute you get this many followers. Then this is going to happen. And then you talk to this therapist because they'll know how to like it. There's just no formula. Yeah. And so it's weird. You eventually moved to L.A. Yes. How did the change of scenery affect your videos and your life? should I go pee before I do this?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Okay. Wrapping up in 30, 40 years. What do you hope people say about Emma Chamberlain?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
for coming on call her daddy we did it dude it's been a long time coming i'm sweating dude i am dehydrated my legs are cramping we're a mess you look great i'm literally well i mean that was this has just opened up a whole new chapter for me hours and 42 minutes this is gonna be another two-part series i can't wait we needed this though i could have kept going i do feel yeah it was like therapeutic yeah we need great work thank you alex thank you for having me
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
No, I'm kidding. You don't want us to listen to you pee. Um, go down the, all the way down the hall. Anyways, Emma's back. How was your pee break?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
hello hello check check um pee break was popping it was popping I hope there was toilet paper in there I don't like we could literally talk for six hours oh wait is this just like the podcast house this is the dad pad no way yeah it's kind of nice to like not be in your own house it I used to do it from my bed all the time because where do you podcast from my bed yeah and like there's pros to that but I started to feel like I could never turn it off so I just yes you
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
i've been having that struggle recently because if that microphone is sitting on your bed or near it you just keep being like should i start should i start should i start podcast i'm like i could record right now and it will be like almost midnight and i'm like oh i have a thought and i'm like no i need to like set boundaries thank you absolutely okay okay so i asked you how did the change of scenery to la affect your video in your life
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
Can you explain in your opinion, like the good and the bad evil parts of LA when you're talking about your experience?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
When you say that, can you elaborate a little bit on like when was a, and you know, obviously you're not naming names, but when was a moment that you realized like, I think I'm getting used right now.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)
When you say you're able to forgive, so you've been burned by people. Yeah. And like, again, so not saying so surface, but not going to into actual detail. Like when you say burns, like, can you give an example? Like, was it someone asking you to be in a video? Was it someone asking to come in your videos? Was it someone, a brand deal? Like, what are you referring to?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Your husband. was in a very public relationship. They were kids. People were obsessed with the idea of them. People were confused on the timeline you're talking about of like, is she a homewrecker? So I guess my question is, Hailey, were you ever with Justin romantically at the same time as her?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
So let's talk about your experience with, there's been a lot of hate on the internet. I know you don't like to talk about this stuff, but you've never. It literally makes me so uncomfortable. And I see that.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
any type of drama and I'm so happy for that so like I get nervous about talking about it because I'm like I don't want to like stir anything up or like bring anything up that is going to be like a thing or and I get that and I think the reason unfortunately is you guys aren't completely normal human beings there is a complete world out there that is obsessed with all of you in different ways and then there are people that
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
hate you for who your husband dated back in his past take me through how your husband's past relationship still to this day affects what people are saying about you and to you on the internet well I think like one of the things that we already just covered is that like the timeline of things and like a lot of the hate and the perpetuation comes from like oh you stole him
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
In December of 2020, a person posted a video encouraging haters to comment on your Instagram live with nasty messages announcing their allegiance for Justin's ex and just like fully harassing you on your live. What do you remember feeling about? on that Instagram live when you saw those comments start popping up.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And didn't Justin came publicly to your defense and like said something?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
It's bullying. It brings me back to the Rob Pattinson and Kristen Stewart, the Miley Cyrus and Liam Hemsworth, their first love. Right. And people are obsessed. I feel like with this concept of like your first relationship, somehow it's being pushed onto you as like, get the fuck out of the way. Like let them get back. And you're like, If I wasn't even here, that's not going to happen.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
So like let us just live our lives and now you go find your partner and you be happy.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I'm like, you know what? I think I agree. Yeah. I was like, yeah, I think I'd take higher classes.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
You almost can't live up to the idea of who they think belongs with him.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
What shoe size are you? An eight. I don't want to overstep, but so am I. So if you have any hand-me-downs.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I think everyone in the world almost knows that you have been bullied and harassed on the internet for almost four years now. That's a fact.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I'm like, it's actually just a game. But you're like, no, logistically.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
you are starting to share more. And even in the video that you made where you basically asked people to stop harassing you and you were like, leave me alone.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
It's fantasy. It's a game. We can pretend like, okay, but I love it. Okay. So Kylie hit us up. Uh, we're ready to take over your closet. You came in here. There's paparazzi taking photos of you. It's a lot. How do you handle the pressure of being photographed for the world to see almost every single time you step outside?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Is the crux of it the homewrecker thing? Like, is that what really bothers you?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Can you explain what happened when you were taking photos on the red carpet with your husband at the Met Gala in 2021?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And as this is happening, everyone's chanting. Was it there? Was it? I don't even know if it was their relationship name or just her name. I think probably both. So then you take the sunglasses.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
See, that's like a very public example I feel like of you having to go through that. Is there anything that comes to mind that was supposed to be a happy moment for you, for you and Justin, whatever, and it was ruined by harassment or bullying or this concept of his past?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
You're like, that was, that wasn't funny. That wasn't funny at all. Calling me ugly. Like, I guess it is kind of funny. Cause look at you. So fuck off.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Can you try to explain what does it feel like? To have millions of people against your relationship. Like what does that feel like on a day to day basis to you?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Maybe if you could talk about like the shame of having those feelings, because I bet a lot of people listening have had those thoughts and you're. You're really alone with them and how to even like comprehend them is a process in itself.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
move past and work past to close out kind of the chapter of what everything we were discussing what would you say to her fans like just coming from your heart they're all sitting listening to you having an open mind let's pretend they had it what would you say to her fans I think I would say the first thing I would say is you're not obligated to like me but
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Oh my God. I think I would have been a little nastier, but I love it from you, Haley.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
One of my last questions on this topic, because I'm just trying to get all of it just like let's wrap it in a bow. yeah so you never have to talk about this again you're like yeah I wish no I literally never will no I'm like sweating at any point did Justin or any literally anyone ever ask his ex to help put an end to the harassment that her fans put you through no
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Have you guys ever spoken? Yes. And then like recently, I don't guess not recently, but like after your marriage. Yes.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Oh, of course. That I'm just like. You don't want to know what's going to come from this interview? Hailey Bieber talking about sex. Great. Hailey Bieber. Yes. Welcome to Call Her Daddy. You're like, we've been sitting here for an hour.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
be cozy little but like still cute still like a little vibe I feel like that's your entire vibe is always being comfortable looking and then having like a tinge of like super like sexy and cute but like still like you can I can't stand being uncomfortable I like I'll do it for a certain amount of time sorry amount of time
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
No. I need to give the fans what they want, right? Okay. We need to just give them a little taste, right? Walk me through. I can't say this in a straight face. Walk me through step by step your sex with Justin Bieber. Oh my God. I was going to try to do it. So like, so straight facing. You're like, this girl's a fucking psycho. No, I was wondering, did anyone ever ask you about your sex life?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
We're the first ones over here. I don't think so. Are you a morning sex or night sex people?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
true Haley but I grew up fully Catholic okay so my parents like really it call her daddy really like I went from zero to like oh my god what is she doing yeah but they get over it this will see this is your introduction to like guys I also have this theory that people like don't care about married people sex I'm sorry you two are the hottest people in the world I feel like I'm like I don't think anybody cares oh I care okay so your night sex people we love that okay this is so graphic but I'm saying the words
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
For the rest of your life, you have to pick one of the two. Okay. From Mr. Bieber. Are you going to be fingered or eaten out for the rest of your life? You can only take one.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy okay hello hailey bieber welcome to call her daddy hi how did you pick your outfit for today i just wanted to feel comfortable and i feel like i just wanted to wear like jeans and a t-shirt
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Do you have people still in your DMs? No. You're like, I am just, I am just a married woman.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Oh, I actually didn't even mean that, too. I was like, you're doing ten positions in one night.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
No, no, so you guys have, like, you guys are not set on one position.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Like, you guys have a couple go-tos. No, no, no, no. But I feel like with my boyfriend, I have now, like, our go-to, like, three. I feel like every couple has those, like, go-tos.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
You heard it here. That was beautiful, Haley. What is the sexiest thing Justin does to turn you on?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
What is the sexiest thing you do that turns him on or what's his thing that he always says like, oh, God, like Haley, like he like gets him going.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Okay. I'm going to tell you something that I think is super sexy about you that turns me on is voting. Yes.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And there are so many people that listen to this show. And this airs in September. We have a huge election in November. And I just think it would be great to use the end of this episode and use this platform and our platforms to just emphasize why it's important to vote and just how much everyone needs to get out there. So why is voting in this year's election important to you, Haley?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
It's hard to make friends when you're in a position where you don't know people's intentions, right? Do you have a hard time trusting people?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
You've been open about the fact that people in your family have different political views than you. And I think that's probably the most relatable thing we'll talk about on the podcast today. And I think so many people can relate to that. How did you navigate that? Because it can get heated.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Oh, my God. No, I appreciate that. I think it's always good to just, one, normalize. People are going to have different views. But I do think regardless, just get out and vote because – It is so important this year specifically. For sure.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Hailey Bieber, thank you so much for coming on Call Her Daddy. I really appreciate you opening up. You don't do a lot of long-form interviews, so I appreciate you trusting me and sitting down with me.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I got to go to youth group after I get hammered for the first time in the basement. It's a classic.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I think I've had the most disgusting, ratchet, amazing, awful nights of my life in up and down.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I had a couple of awful nights at Marquis, but like up and down specifically. You're like, God bless.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
a full, like, water bottle of vodka would be in my system, and I'd be like, I'm cruising through the night.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Haley, did you, like, rip that from me? Because that is my order. Please and thank you. In New York, you go to a fucking bodega.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Have you ever had someone take advantage of you and your situation and like kind of love that it's like, oh, I get this lifestyle around her. And like, how do you deal with that?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
So many people in the world are fascinated by you and fascinated by your life. And I think the public can kind of feel that from you of, like, you don't like confrontation. Mm-hmm. You rarely will speak out on things if there's drama, which I think so many people do respect you for.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
But how much does that then weigh on you of things piling up on you that it's like, when is going to be a good moment for Hailey to just kind of like speak her truth? And you've done it a couple times on the internet, which I think people were like, oh, fuck yes. Like, Hailey, let's go, which we're going to get into.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
What marriage doesn't have ups and downs? And in a good way, you get through shit.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Here you go, Alex. Just go. She's literally burrowing in. Look at my hands. Oh, my God, Hailey. Okay. You married one of the most famous people on the planet, Justin Bieber. What are the best parts about being married to Justin?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I need to tell you, one time I went to a fitting, and this woman was like, oh, my God, try on these heels. And I was like, whoa, like, those look aggressive. And, like, they're the Hailey Bieber heels. Like, they're the classic ones she always wears.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
You can see it with the two of you, even though we only see stuff. I mean, I remember when I saw you guys on the beach in Santa Barbara and I
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I grew up I watched Justin Bieber I was like oh like I didn't know what to expect like I was definitely intimidated by you guys because we'd only met once I was like wait why are they so normal Justin's like hey what's up gives me a hug you're like what are you guys doing on your trip I'm like you guys are so so normal for what how crazy your life is and it's unfortunate that people don't get to see that side of you guys yeah he's also like he just has the kindest sweetest most like gentle heart and soul to me and I've always thought that about him
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I don't even know. Hailey, I don't know. I was like, oh, okay, I guess I'll try them on if Hailey wears them. Hailey...
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
This person that you are. happened to be married to happens to also be one of the most famous people in the world.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
From your point of view, can you explain why the internet was so angry over your engagement to Justin?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Hi, Daddy Gang. I am currently in Boston, okay? And I'm on my way to the Post Malone concert. And I figured I don't want to go alone. I would love for you to come with me. That's why I got us this limo. But if we're going to go to his concert, I don't know. I just figured maybe we should also interview him. You want to come? Let's get into it. What is up, Daddy Gang?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Right, like after class, Post would have so much gum in his hair because the entire class would throw gum. And if you fell, it was more of like a little rebound thing.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
So you wore skinny jeans. Do you think that was the gist of why you were getting bullied?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Yeah, I could see that. Like, the kids be like, why the fuck are you wearing slacks?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Yeah, and they're like, well, we're in fucking middle school and high school, bitch. So, like, literally get it together.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Like, this is my... I wake up and put this shit on a Saturday, motherfucker.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Dude, it's so fucked how mean kids are at that age.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Like, I also got bullied and I've talked about it on my show, but I'm like, people were so fucking mean and that, like, sticks with you. And I feel like it's interesting because now I feel like people know in the industry and just your fans, like, you are now known for having, like,
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Do you have any advice for anyone that is like, damn, fuck post. I relate to you of like feeling like an outsider or feeling like maybe they don't fit in and they're kind of getting bullied. Like, do you have any advice?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I actually went to college in Boston. I haven't been back since graduation. So it's kind of like a pretty surreal moment for me. If I knew in college I was ever going to interview you, I probably would have shit my pants.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
For example, you're pretty fucking cool.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Okay, I'm going to ask you some rapid fire questions.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
And Post, I want you to really just give me whatever comes to your mind and your heart in this moment when I ask you this.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Okay, here we go. Who is your best friend in the industry? Oh, shit.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
You have to get rid of one tat. Which are you removing?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Oh, I need to meet her. Lovely, lovely.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Okay. What is something you used to be embarrassed about but you don't give a shit about anymore?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Oh, okay. It's not cute. It's not fucking cute, bitch.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
They're tough. Did you know they were puffy or did you get told they were puffy?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Stop. Okay, puffy nipples. That's a great answer that I didn't anticipate. This episode is going to be Post Malone featuring puffy nipples. This is good. That's a great rap name. That is good. Okay. Have you ever joined the Mile High Club?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
No, no, no. I agree with you, and I understand that. Have you ever had the poop walk on the plane?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I have never either. And you know what? I know it's kind of gross to talk about, but this whole fucking episode is all shit. I was on the airplane, and I think there's nothing worse than when someone has gas on the airplane, and you're just like... Like, clench it or do fucking something, bro, because it's reeking.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I'm here, drinking and relaxing. It's good, it's good vibes. So as I was getting ready for this interview, I was like, okay, I know you typically go by Post, but you have a new album out called Austin, which is your first name. So what's the vibe? Do you want to start going by Austin now?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
But I have never shit on an airplane either. And I think it's like there is a level of controllability in there. You know what I mean? But would you rather someone take a shit or fart on the airplane? Well, you're the fucking culprit over here.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Your little stinkers weren't getting through. It's almost like the motherfuckers that were wearing the ones that weren't that thick, it's like, well, shame on you.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I appreciate the strategy you put into letting it go. Okay. What is your most toxic trait?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
The fiance's like, I'm just chilling in the room.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
No, no. Oh, okay. Just like I was asking. Yeah, I can tell you're so jealous.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
No, exactly. You're just letting it rip, literally. Okay, so you're jealous.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
You're jealous with your woman a little. Okay, but that shows you care. Well, I guess that's... A good way to look at it?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
And you're drinking. Are you working on it or you're like cool with it? You just are aware.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
That's so interesting, because I feel like when I see you on stage, especially online and TikToks, it's like, Post, you're busting out dance moves. It's like you're just in your own world up there. I don't think anyone would think that you would be too shy to get up there.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Yeah, you're like, I'm actually just hammered, and that's why I feel comfortable to bust a move in my jorts.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Exactly. Please put those on before the show tonight. What is a purchase you blew too much money on and regret?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Or you blew too much money on it and you're aware, but you don't give a fuck.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Oh, do you want to tell me how much that was?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Oh, you were saying you don't regret it.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. $2 million on a fucking card. Yes, ma'am. Wow. So you really like Lord of the Rings?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Yeah, I appreciate you clarifying, because I think on this show people would think you were like, oh, I jerk off to Frodo's feet. That's the vibe this show would give, so it's good you clarified that.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Putting your dick in something. In the coochie? In something?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Oh, fuck. No, no, no. Are you... Do you like women specifically? Yes, ma'am. Okay, so a V, then. A vagina.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
When's the first time you put your dick in a vagina?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I'm not going to lie. It took me like two seconds to register the joke and now I get it.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Did she shit on your dick or no, you were okay?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
No, ma'am. Okay, we're moving on. He kept it clean. It was clean. When you pulled out, you were okay? You weren't traumatized?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
It sounds like you're saying she was, though.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
No, no, no. It's great comedy. I appreciate you. No, that's interesting because I was talking to someone that's on your team and he was like, yeah, like sometimes like I'll call him Austin when we're more private vibe and then post when it's more like he's Post Malone. He's out there.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
You're like, I was having a great fucking time. Anyways, what is your biggest fear?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
So what's the most awkward interaction you've had with another celebrity?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I get it. I get it. You're like, why did I just say that? But I'm sure they get that all the time, so that's okay. But I get what you're... In a moment, you're like, fuck me. Yes, yeah, yeah.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
You're like, oh, man. Why did I do that? I'm so sorry, dude. Oh. You're a nice guy, though. You care what you can affect people.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Just be nice. Don't be a dickhead. Let's put that on a t-shirt. You're forced to dress up and role play in the bedroom. What are you dressing up as?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Do you think that would get your woman turned on?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Oh, I've been interviewing everyone about you. I'm getting all the T posts. I'm getting all the vibe. That's terrible. So do you think, like, is Austin and Post Malone the same person? Or is Post kind of like an alter ego?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Got it. And she just spread herself and be like, I guess this is girl play. Jesus fucking Christ.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I'm kind of picturing, this is good too, because it's giving like a full idea of like what your sex is like. Do you know what I mean? Like people are going to be like, ooh, this is good. Like he's on stilts. Like the whole thing. It's good. This is sexy.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Wow, this is very specific. You learn something new every day.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
This is really good. When's the last time you cried?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Someone told me you were crying yesterday.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Well, if you were to cry recently, what would you be crying over?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
That's great. Well, this is a quick little transition. We were talking about your baby blowing kisses. Just pretend that didn't happen for a second. What's your go-to porn search words?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I'm picturing you on Pornhub like, hmm, what's today's selection? This is interesting. You're kind of down for whatever.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Yeah. And is that how long you would last during sex? No.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
And what if we're working out like a 20 beer situation?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
You keep it pretty locked down with your personal life. Yes, ma'am. Which I think is great. But again, this is Call Her Daddy. So I'm going to ask you a couple questions. You answer how you're comfortable. Yes, ma'am. You're engaged?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Or are you married and you secretly haven't told anyone?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
You're not married. You're engaged. How long have you been engaged?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
We got you. We got you. What would a Post Malone wedding look like?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
That is what we need to clarify. So when I was researching, I was like, hold on. Your actual last name is Post, which I don't think everyone knows. So it's Austin Post. So you put Post as the first and you're saying you put into a random generator and you got Malone.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
And you're wearing camo Crocs. Yes, ma'am. Very trendy. Super trendy. Very cool.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
How did you know, like, what is something about her? Because I know you keep your relationship private. What's something that you knew you were in love with this person?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
So you've written some, but no one's heard them. No one's heard them.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
If I was her, I would force you to sit down and play it.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Don't stop. Don't stop. You can't get us that excited.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Okay, but you've written songs about her, but you just don't release them right now.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Congratulations. Thank you very much. What is Papa Post like?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
What do you think is your best dad skill?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
You're like, here's my MX. God bless you all.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
That's so good. You're bringing the dough. You know, you're self-aware, Post, okay?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
That's amazing. What's a lesson that your parents kind of taught you growing up that you want to make sure that you pass on to your daughter?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
No, you're fine. I agree with everything you're saying and I think it's a good approach to life. What do you think is the biggest misconception about you?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
So you're on tour, obviously. That's where we are right now. How is tour going for you?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
OK, it's good to clarify. No, maybe you don't even have to.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Trust me, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Like, let the kid decide.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Yeah, but does that get annoying though? That like, how do you decide when you're like, fuck, should I not speak up on this? You're like, hi, I'm not on fucking drugs.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. The man of the hour. Hi, everybody. Come take a seat.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
It is interesting, though, when you say that post, because in the same interview, you're saying, I've never been happier. And people think you're on meth.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Yeah, it's kind of interesting. You're like, I have never been happier. And everyone's like, but you're on meth?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
You're like, you can think that. I'm happy.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
We love it. Your new album, Austin, by the time this comes out, it will be out. What is the story behind the album?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Wait, no, you're fine. Wait, you did eight songs in seven days?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Jersey. OK, so eight songs, seven days. Yes, ma'am.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
How do you want your fans to feel about this album?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Yeah. It's a very intimate moment for you to write it on the toilet, you and yourself, and then to put it out there.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
But you wanted it to be genuine. This is me in my raw form of how I actually do it.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
What is your favorite lyric that you wrote? Oh.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
It's innovative. Thank you. And it's also nostalgic.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
What's your favorite song on the album?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
You know whatever comes out of your mouth, everyone's going to listen to.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
They're going to listen, Post. Daddy Gang is going to fucking listen.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
These people are so loyal. Daddy Gang is going to get out there. They're going to stream the whole thing. But we need to hear your top two songs.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I'm so excited for you. You're so talented. It's always such a pleasure to get to sit down with someone and meet them in person because, again, I see things online about you. I see your pictures and your videos and your amazing dance moves. But being in your presence, like you're such a soft, sweet guy that is clearly so talented beyond words.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
And I just can't thank you enough for taking the time because I know you're on tour and you're so busy. And this really meant a lot to me and my fans and your fans. So thank you, Post.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Okay, I pulled a little bit away. I thought you were way better.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I've won games. I've like, I've been like, boom, boom. I was, I have stage fright. I have stage fright. I would be too, and I was. You were doing it in front of post, you were so good. That is wrong. I know.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I feel like 28. We're just getting to our prime, no? You're tired.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I'm going to give you a little hug before. I would absolutely love that. Just because, you know, good vibes. How are you doing?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
The jort stop and then the knee brace begins.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I feel like you're the only person that could pull off jorts and knee pads or knee brace vibes.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Okay, so I hope next time I see you, you're going to be wearing that shit.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
It's okay. I don't care if we swerve. Who gives a shit? We're here to have a good time, okay? We're getting you ready for your concert. What is on your rider? And actually, can you explain what a rider is? Because some people may have no fucking idea what that means.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Post, why don't you just read? What do you like? What do you wish was in here?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
They don't give a shit about you, I guess.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Do you think you're high maintenance or low maintenance?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Do you think if I asked your team, they would agree?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
You take your beer pong very seriously.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Yeah, I was talking to Bobby and he was like, you know, he's so fucking good. You're bad now?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
You're saying that and then we're going to go in there and you're going to be playing and you're going to be better than everyone. Are you superstitious before you go on stage? Like, is there anything specific you have to do where you're like, holy fuck, my day is ruined?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I guess I should say, Post Malone, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
One could assume that you would since you were like, I've been really thinking about inventing these diapers as if this is like a serious sewage problem for you where you're like just letting it rip.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
I am so happy to be here. It's very exciting for me. I've always wanted to meet you.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
So what I've heard is you do some of your best songwriting on shrooms and on the toilet.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Well, that's what I was going to say. Let's talk about it. Are you taking shrooms and then camping out in the bathroom? Are these two things together or are they kind of like separate ventures?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
We are currently in your dressing room backstage. You're going to perform tonight. We are in Massachusetts, a little outside of Boston.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Are you often taking selfies while you're shitting?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Who would you send a selfie to while you were taking a shit?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Yeah, it gives you a little extra hair on your chest. You're like, I'm feeling myself.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Do you have any connection to Boston? Do you have friends in Boston? No.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
It's always such a pleasure to sit down with people because you never know where an interview is going to go. And like what I love about Call Her Daddy is like usually it has one vibe. But today it's like today we're talking about shit. Yes, ma'am. But it's comedy. You're bringing the comedy. I love it.
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
It went in the can. Okay, I want to take a step back. Before you were Post Malone, you were just Austin. What were you like as a kid?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
When you, when you say you're a little weird back then, is there like a memory or something like a story that comes to mind that you can help us? Like,
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
Are you friends with Tom Brady? Is that what you're saying?
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Post Malone: Joining the Mile High Club (FBF)
You'd cut it off because there was so much gum in your hair?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Okay. Can people typically tell if you're high or are you really good at hiding it?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Well, I think it's, I appreciate that answer too. Cause it's so sadly, like it's such a formula in music. I feel like we see like people when they're hot, like we could name the people right now that are like, everyone has their attention and everyone's focusing on this person. And when it goes in waves, it must be so hard as an artist to be like,
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
i may if anything be more like well suited for my craft now i'm better at it i know how to handle it better and yet once you're not the new hot thing people love to be like you're irrelevant you're not as cool anymore you're different you're this you're that you're growing but
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Yeah, I can imagine because I as a creator have it too, like doing this a certain amount of time, people saying shit like, oh, it's not as this anymore, that anymore. I would hope it's not the same. I want to fucking grow and be different. But it's tough when people try to like make you feel like you don't belong there anymore when you probably feel like you've never belonged here more.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
You've got this shit on rap now.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Right, right, right. You got to be hungry for it, but sometimes you're going to have to shift it up a little bit in ways that you're like, I don't want to fucking do this. But it's also like in order to get your music back out there and have people re-engage, you got to have a strategy. But I do really respect you saying that you spent so much time on family and wanting to be there with your son.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I think that's something that... of course you can always look back and wonder, like, could you have made different business decisions? Even when you're like, you're spending so much time on business. We always think that even when it's all business, like, could I have made a different decision?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
So like spending time with your son, you're never going to look back and be like, could I have, you know, you spent as much time as you could with him. That's, that's amazing.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
How long have you been doing that? Like how long would you say you've always been like, I've been high all day since like what age?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I'm going to give you a topic and I just want to know your opinion on it. All right. We're going to start easy.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Let's see how we feel about each topic. There's a couple I know we'll go in on. This one should be pretty quick. This episode is the first episode of the new year. What is your take on making New Year's resolutions? Do you do it?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Really? New Year's resolutions. What is going to be this year?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
For some people it is, Wiz. Okay.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Have you ever paid for someone's BBL?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Oh, that's nice. Are those the first tits you've ever bought?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Why? Your girlfriend right now wants some?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
And why don't you want her to get them?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I think it's also hard for women because it's, like, there's women being, like, because I know guys like this. Yeah. And so I think, obviously, guys don't have, like, the female gaze.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
It's a topic that we could go down.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Right? Like, we're not, like, oh, my God, like, staring at all these different body parts expecting much as long as, like, you've got a functioning dick. Right. Like, you should be good to go. Right.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Put on those gray sweatpants and we'll like try to like.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
No, you're right. But I think. But even when guys have like dad bods, like girls don't really give a fuck. But guys, it's like, do you have a nice ass? Do you have nice tits? Do you have like a slim waist? It's like, we're exhausted, Wiz.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
It's like actually pathetic at times. Like you see a guy and he's just like, and you're like, I know if I turn, I'm going to see fucking tits. Cause why is his head literally cranking tits for show?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
They're great. Tits are great.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Are you more of an ass guy or a tit guy?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
When you would get in the studio, what is the difference that you feel when you're doing music of like when you're high versus when you're sober?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
what is your take on going to the strip club with your friends or solo when you're in a relationship like you're not bringing your girl you're going alone yeah you should you should be able to go to strip club i should be able to go to strip club 100 alone alone what are you doing there throwing money watching ass
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Like you're like paying for like a boner.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Have you ever had a girlfriend that does not support you going to the strip club without her?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
no really no i just don't surround myself with those types of people i don't surround myself with those type of humans that won't let me have fun because i got a lot of girls with writing in being like i'm so sick of it my boyfriend my fiance my husband is always going to the strip club with his boys what what can you tell my girls to make them feel better
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
It's a great answer. I do feel like sometimes we're focusing way too much on what the guys are doing. It's like, let's go have fun ourselves. Who gives a fuck what he's doing?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Do you like going to the strip club with your girlfriend?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Okay, that's fun. What is your take on reality TV?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
What was that show? Did you ever watch...
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
How do you think you would do if you were The Bachelor?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Maybe you could spice it up a little bit, though.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Holy shit. Oh, my God. Yeah. That was so, oh, my God. I forgot about that.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Yeah, there's some like, I fucking love reality TV. That shit is just like crack. I just love to sit and watch it.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Which one? You'd like the ones where you're trying to find love, like you can be down for reality TV, like a survivor or survivor.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
But you couldn't do the for love.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I'm assuming you've kissed multiple women in one night, but I get what you're saying.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Three's a company. There you go. Do you have threesomes often?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
You're like the king of threesomes.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
So you've had a girlfriend be like, I'm going to bring someone in?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Do you like threesomes? I love them. Okay.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Have you ever done it with another guy?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
For sure. But that's not your idea of a threesome. That's not my idea. You want two chicks.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Have you ever had them fight over you like you gave one too much attention?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Damn. OK, well, yeah, I could see that being so high and be like, I never heard the tambourine.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Like one position, you're really focusing on someone else. And the other girl, which usually maybe one girl would feel comfortable being like, oh, guys, do your thing. I'm over here. Another girl could start crying in the corner.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
that is shit be when someone says which i encourage all my girls listening like you don't need to have a fucking threesome with the guy you like even if he wants to if you don't want to do it just be like fuck no i don't want to do it but if you are the one that's like yeah let's do it right then just make sure you're ready for that because we don't need you crying in the bedroom being all upset yeah like
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
What is your take on shirtless selfies at the gym?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
The fact that people are going to listen to this and be like, all right, fuck. Like, should I just start bringing a cameraman to the gym with me to get that shot? No, it's going to start being an Instagram photo shoot at every fucking LA Fitness and all that shit.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
How do you feel when people, if people make fun of you online for a selfie?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
That's a good answer. What is your take on camping?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
No, I was going to ask if your son asks you tomorrow to go camping, would you say yes?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Okay, so we're going camping. Let's pretend we're going camping. You're going to do mushrooms.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Wait, no. What? You can't go camping and watch electronics.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
It defeats the point of camping.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
But if he was like, Daddy, I saw this book in school. I want a tent and I want to go into the wilderness and camp.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Wow. Okay, so you're going to fake it?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Listen, I want to go camping with you guys.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
fuck you talking about that is in a nutshell Wiz Khalifa's ideal version of camping we gonna go grocery shopping before we get there
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
What type of person do you think enjoys camping? The type that I'm describing.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
but i hear this shit and it sounds fucking crazy right you're like that flute is phenomenal do you hear the flute bro that is though the perfect instrument to be like you're when you're fucking sober you're not hearing that first shit the flute is going undercover no one gives a fuck about the flute till you're high the flute is key no yeah it makes hella sense
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
The fact that you just said that you have seen, you're like, oh yeah, I've seen some seasick people. That's me.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Not every time, but like I got to really focus.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Don't you think that'll make me like a little like, oh.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Do you think you just made that up?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I'm going to smoke. And if I vomit, I'll let you know.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Last one. What is your take on the Mile High Club?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I also just think sometimes it's like logistically, it's a little too difficult. Even if you're not 6'5", it's like, it's just a hassle. Like, just wait till you land.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Out and about? Yeah, yeah. At the strip club?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I feel like you've always kind of openly talked about co-parenting. How is co-parenting going with Amber?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
on good terms and be able to show up together places and do shit for him. But I agree with you. I'm sure time makes it a lot easier. Cause like when you first end a relationship, it's, it's always difficult, even like no matter if you're like still in love or not in love, like it's tough when you leave a relationship and obviously you have this beautiful child.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Do you think that you guys would have put in as much work as you guys did to be like cordial and good if you guys didn't have so much history?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
What is a situation that you have personally been high for that you were completely fine, but a normal person that maybe doesn't smoke a lot? If they were in that situation, they would be absolutely fucked.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
do you ever have to like set expectations when you're getting into a new relationship to be like, this is my relationship with Sebastian's mom. And like, you have to be cool with it.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Yeah, I mean, that's such a mature way to look at it, too, because I think, again, like it all ties back to one, you have respect for Amber and you guys have this amazing thing that you brought into life, which is Sebastian, this beautiful child. And so I think it's a really healthy way that you're looking at it. And you're right. I can imagine it's hard for some people like that.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I can imagine that some people couldn't handle that dynamic and that's okay. But I think you're right in like, don't try to then change how I treat her just because you can't handle it. And it's not anyone's fault. It's just like, you kind of got to test out the boundaries.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
That's such a good way to look at it though. You're like, I really fuck with her and I'm happy it's her. So like, let's just let that be. And now you guys have your own separate lives also. What are you and your son's favorite things to do together?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
That is so cute. And also because you're so into fashion, it must be so cool to see kind of a mini version of yourself staring up at you, being like, dad, do you like this? And you're like, fuck, my son's cool.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Also, I saw the cutest video. I think it like went viral on the internet of you taking your son to Taylor Swift.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Oh my God. He is so cute. He's a big Taylor fan.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Do you think he's going to get into the industry?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I love it. I love that. And you're a supportive dad, so he's going to feel really excited and empowered to do it.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I was going to say, how has fatherhood changed you?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I think that's fucking amazing too just like you knowing yourself enough and then watching your son basically like take on certain things that you like and but he's doing it in his own way and you're so supportive clearly and you guys have such like an amazing way you're raising the kid I mean he's so cute every time I see just like little clips of him if he's in a video you're just like damn that is congrats you guys are doing a fabulous job man
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Like he's not just being like a little shit where you're like, oh, you're being spoiled. He's like, dad, I want to show off for my friends and show them a good time before they leave for break.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
That's adorable. Oh my God. Okay. I only have two more questions for you. Okay. Okay. What is something you wish more people knew about you?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
That is so good. There's some people that come on and will really say something serious and heartfelt, but clearly that's important to you.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
We all have those dumb moments. What is the dumbest thing you've ever done while you're high?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
It's how everyone says to me, I will say. It's so annoying because some people come up to me like, you're so much shorter than I thought. And it is kind of fucking annoying every time for that to be the leading thing.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I feel like a fucking giraffe. You're like, you got a really long neck. No, it's not a bad thing.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Oh, that's a better way to say it. Thank you. You're like, you got a long ass neck and those arms.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Thank you. Like myself. Like I was gonna say, like you. Okay.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Thank you. So are you. But let's do a little disclaimer. Wiz is tall as fuck.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
And I am 5'5". So I am short, Daddy Gang. So every time you see me in person, don't be shocked.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Okay, what projects do you currently have going on that fans should check out, should be excited for? Just talk to me about what you're up to and what you're proud of.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
what's happening right now is decisions uh i just dropped a video um off of there yeah fucking decisions listen to decisions and watch the videos as i drop them okay that's good because sometimes my audience is like really really dedicated and like if there's one song that you would say like go to listen to like they usually will also go listen to it oh for real yeah like which song should we all go stream right now
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
That's a good answer. Yeah, yeah. Wiz, since you are the first guest of 2024 on Call Her Daddy.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I think it's only appropriate that we finish out this episode with you kind of just like giving us a little toast for the new year to the daddy gang, to the Taylor gang. Let's just give good vibes. Give us a little speech about our year. What what can we the vibes we need to have?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Like what? Give me an example.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I'm never going to be at your level.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Wiz Khalifa, thank you so much for coming on Call Her Daddy.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Dude, that was so fun. Thank you so much.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I feel like when I'm high, it's usually the microwave.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Like. I'll be staring at the microwave and I've had moments where I'm like, I swear to God, I press start and I'm watching my food just sit in there and nothing's happening. And then I've been sitting there for like 10 minutes contemplating life. Just like, when's my chicken Parmesan ready? And it never started.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
And I'm not upset though, because I'm like, I had a great moment alone, staring at the microwave, contemplating life. And then eventually I'll press start. Yeah.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I think you've said this before, but in case it's updated, who is your dream blunt rotation?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Would you ever add Hillary in there?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Did you know when the world was shocked about Snoop being like, I'm done smoking? Were you in on the joke? Did you know this shit?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
It got so many fucking comments.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I didn't believe it because I was, like, I am also on the side of, like, business and media being, like, there's got to be an angle. There's no fucking way he's just posting himself crying being, like, I'm done smoking, like, for what? Like, why? There's got to be now, like, a follow-up to be, like, I'm launching this new product.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Wiz Khalifa, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Yeah, you're like, I'll just wait it out. I'll see.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
All right. So you're from Pittsburgh. I'm from Pennsylvania. So PA represent for high school.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Obviously, I know you got started young with music, but like socially, if I was to ask kids from your high school, like, what were you like? What do you think they would say?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
How were you back then with the girls?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
When you were interested in a girl back then, what would be your approach? You want to get the girl. What are you doing?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
You are the first person that has smoked in this new studio.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Oh my God. So they must have all fallen in love.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
i think if a man made me a mixtape when i was in high school i would have been like okay this is it we gotta get married that's hot like that's dope that's unique yeah for sure did you ever go to prom i did go to prom i went to three proms Wait, tell me everything. Did you ask all of them or did they ask you?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Yeah. I figured it's only appropriate that someone like you does it.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Proud of you. You had it with the girls.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
So good. Was there a specific moment when you look back that you're like, damn, I made it and I know I'm going to have a successful career in this industry?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
You're just lighting that shit up immediately.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
I have weed for myself. I have not smoked in an interview in so long because sometimes it's not the vibe. Like I can't tell if someone would be down or not. Clearly you're the right person to smoke with.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
The fact that you almost just walked right by him.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Like it was just like a buddy. You're like, what's up? What the fuck? What the fuck?
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
Damn, that's dope to have someone that obviously successful and so... incredibly influential in the music space. I mean, that must have just been so cool for you to even just see someone like that you clearly looked up to, to even just be like being at one of your shows. That's wild. That's like a dream, though. That's someone like you can't even make that story up.
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Wiz Khalifa: It’s Not Cute to Cry in a Threesome (FBF)
That's one of those like, of course, that's an I made it moment.
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Obviously, you've been in now the industry for like almost two decades. What is the hardest lesson that you've learned?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I feel like a lot of kids, we always have that like memory thing
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
maybe it's financial, maybe it's something with the parents or the siblings or extended family, like of like a childhood memory that you remember your family kind of just being like stressed or going through something difficult, kind of like if you could remember kind of a childhood memory that you remember just being like stressed about something in your life.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
And I feel like a lot of people would sit here and that may have been the answer, right? That would have been like, well, fuck, like I couldn't even, I didn't know where my next meal was. And you're like, oh, you know, maybe it was childish shit, like no big deal.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Yeah. So we are here because you can sing. When did you first realize you were passionate about singing and you could sing?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I love that the story started with, you know, there were these three triplets. And it just felt right to join choir.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Right. So like your natural, just like boy interest ended up, you realized something that you had a true talent. From the triplets to X Factor, you made it. So it's so funny, too, because you say you wouldn't be where you are without your mom because you didn't want to get out of bed the morning that you had the X Factor audition and your mom made you go. Why did you also not want to go initially?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Oh my God. And so did you like practice? You were practicing for it?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
So that probably made you stand out though.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Well, obviously not. Look where you're fucking sitting.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
But clearly there was something in there, Zayn.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Acapella and he just nails it. When you look back at that moment, obviously, is it surreal? If you even had to watch it back, does it even feel like a lifetime ago?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Yeah, you give trendy vibes. But I think I totally relate to that of like sometimes when you get to it.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
It's so good. It's so good. So obviously then X Factor, everyone, Simon, everyone came to you guys and they had this idea to invent One Direction. And then I think people don't, I don't even know, like, did you even meet anyone before they put you guys together?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
So you weren't complete strangers. That's good to know. Cause I didn't know if they like just threw you all together and then you were like, Hey, you said it very well.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
You give trendy vibes. Like look at your outfit. It's like pretty swaggy. But then you're also like hanging with the Amish folk. So it's like a good little juxtaposition, Zane. But what I find interesting is I love that you said like you would be in New York City and I'm assuming you would be going out and there's paparazzi everywhere taking photos of you. Pennsylvania, there ain't no paparazzi.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Okay, got it. Once you started obviously One Direction and you joined One Direction, like how quickly did your actual life change? Was it overnight immediate or was it a little bit gradual?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Like what were you even able to comprehend it?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Because it is so interesting. I think people forget, like, you were 17 at the time.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Like, my brother lived in this house at 17 and was, like, picking his nose and going to Wawa and, like, trying to fucking get girls to pay attention to him. And you are, like, all of a sudden overnight become one of the biggest stars in the world. Can you help us commoners over here, Zane?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Commoners. Can you help us understand, like... What skyrocketing to that level of fame can do to you as an individual when you're like by yourself at night laying in bed trying to understand like what is happening to you in your life?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
make music you know i love singing and people seem to have an interest in it so yeah a little bit just a little bit no i almost get what you're saying like you kind of have to black it out and just be present because if you stop to think about all of it then it's all gonna come exactly yeah that's how i deal with i don't black it out so much but i just don't overthink you know um
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Yeah, you just almost have to stay present because it's like, what else are you going to do?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Like now you can look at it in hindsight and be like... If you have 10 years time.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Yeah, but you've had time probably now to be like, whoa, in your quiet moments now in life where you can actually sit and dissect things that at 17, 18 years old... Again, like you said, I was just having fun. I was just going with it. And also it's not like you were just on this solo tour, like you were a part of something.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
So that also probably affected of like, be a good team player, like go with the flow, like do what you gotta do. Um, obviously your guys' fans are insane. They're obsessed. They're still obsessed. They're everywhere. They love you guys. Can you share any like memorable fan moments that you remember to this day that have stuck with you of just like anything that happened that you're like, damn.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
and they tried to like grab me and it was it was a very memorable moment that was for sure yeah i think i had a mini heart attack humans popped out from garbage cans and tried to grab you it's like a fucking video game like swallow you into the fucking what yeah oh wow do you think that in any way that's dedication though right to get into a trash can like
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I'm so happy that you're here. We have to preface this with my fans are watching this like, where the fuck are you guys? We are in my childhood home, Daddy Gang, okay? Zane and I are in my living room that I grew up in. Zane got here and has had to look at all the embarrassing childhood photos of me. Thank you so much for coming. I've never done an interview.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Oh, that's amazing. Okay, the most important question. Have you gone to Wawa yet?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Zayn, they were willing to get in the trash bucket for you, okay? Motherfuckers, they are loyal. They are. Do you think that those kind of moments though, not that we don't love the fans, we're obsessed, but like people being so obsessed with you, like is there any lingering paranoia from people constantly staring at you and following you? No.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
No one crazy in Pennsylvania. That's debatable. You're performing in front of massive crowds and...
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
i i know you're kind of saying like you were in the moment but like were you able to just easily get in front of all these people was there no fear or anxiety that came with like standing in front of thousands and hundreds of thousands of people when you're on stage um i think there was but i don't think we had time for it like there was no like you have time to have anxiety or be nervous you're just kind of gonna go do it you know like get on with it um
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I think it's interesting, too, because when you look at bands or even just like any brand that has like multiple people attached to it, like everyone loves to put archetypes with people like the Spice Girls, for example. Perfect example. You have to label everyone. And so for a boy band, it would be like the boy next door, like the bad boy, like the like the brooding one or the funny one.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I was like, how am I going to get along with Zayn if he hasn't like had a love for Wawa yet?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Yeah, it's interesting. I love the Teletubby reference. You're like, the Teletubbies, the Spice Girls, One Direction. I'm like, the fucking Teletubbies.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
It's so fucking crazy. It's all coming full circle.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Fuck. No, but it's interesting. So I was going to ask, like, I agree. You kind of had this like brooding, mysterious personality. And that's why I'm excited to sit down with you today. Because again, those stereotypes that were put onto people. I'm curious if, first of all, who comes up with that? Marketing people, I guess.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
It's not like the fans. It's kind of just happens.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
It is so fucking superior. I remember growing up and my excuse whenever I would want to go like meet up with boys would be like, mom, like I just want to go get a Wawa sub. And she'd be like, you're not getting a Wawa.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Okay, well now you're solo, so you got to jump in front, Zayn. Okay, we're going to get there.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I love how you kind of mentioned, you know, you got out at the right time. And I think that you leaving the band obviously shook the fucking world and everyone was like, Zayn, like, no, like, keep it together. But I think what, again, we forget is you're a human being and you clearly had to take care of your mental health and do what was best for you.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Can you, I know you've lightly talked about this, but just so we get a full circle moment, can you just take us back to that moment of like actually sitting with yourself and knowing it was time to leave?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I love that you're saying that too because I think people can relate to that of like if you're with the same people 24-7 no shit and I think I can imagine as you guys were younger everyone was so idealizing this band that you couldn't say that back in the day of like yeah we got fucking sick of each other it was time to like do our own things and I think that's so okay.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
But because there was this obsession, obviously, I get it. There's the nostalgia.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Yeah, you want them to stay together forever. But I also think it's so healthy because imagine if you hadn't ended it, then you really would have fucking hated each other. And being able to go on your own way. Also, someone always has to be the first one to leave. Exactly. And maybe it's the best thing for it. But in the time, I can imagine there's hurt feelings.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Were you afraid of what the world was going to think of you when you made that decision?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I think that's so smart because I think social media, even if you're not famous, like everyone is feeding themselves and their worth by what other people are saying about them. And it's like, you good with your family? And like, I don't mean family by blood. Like you may not be good with- Just yeah, people that you have around you.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
But did you not tell your mom you were doing it?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
oh my god that's actually really cute that the first person like mom do you have a bed for me she's like let's go because didn't you also buy your mom one of the first things you did with your success is you bought her a home how cool was that to be able to buy your mom something after everything she's done it's a great feeling wild um okay so you leave the band and take me to when you're laying in your mom's home you're in bed what were those next couple weeks like for you like mentally and emotionally
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
OK, so I feel like, again, you're kind of this mysterious guy, Zane. We don't really know too much about you. You're kind of under the radar. So can you take me through a typical day in the life of Zane in Pennsylvania? Like, what are we doing? Make us feel like we're a part of your life.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
That must have been so stressful, too, because I feel like I guess we see it in various different forms. But like if you make a jump, even if someone like quits their job. Right. They're like, I need to prove to myself and other people that like I now can do it. Like and so did you put pressure on yourself when obviously you came out being solo? Like were you fucking nervous?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Right, you had to be like, I need to get back to my let me love you days where I'm like back on X Factor. It's just me.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
i'm curious and i don't know because i know you were saying and i i totally respected of like you were kind of just in this phase of going going going and you didn't have time to stop but when you did go solo and you left did you have to take any moment to be like who the fuck am i independent of now not being a part of something that i was identified as in media um
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I love that too, because I feel like people, especially creators, they're such a
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
stress about taking a break and it doesn't mean you're actually taking a break you could be working still working yeah you're just but like popping out of not doing it in the spotlight yeah and you did were you able to just not have anxiety about it because you're like i know i'm coming back but it's like i gotta just be good on my own shit and not be fulfilling the tabloids and everyone else like how am i on my own right exactly yeah that's that was all thought behind it for sure you start doing your own solo music and i remember when you came out
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
pillow talk all the good stuff you popped off and it's like really dope to see you coming out with your own sound and creative and it's you and that's exciting to know like you are producing this and it's not obviously a no shade to one direction but like you're one of five like you can't really have a full say in now this is you when you started on your solo
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Yeah. Yeah. I get that because like even earlier you said like you like to write poetry. And I'm like, I can only imagine how much the writing process is therapeutic and you get to infuse parts of yourself and your identity. Whereas that just like wasn't in the past, which it shouldn't have been like it was a band. It was great, whatever.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
But now you can actually artistically exercise that part of yourself, which must be amazing.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
It's cool because I think you're getting now, we're getting to know you a little bit better now that you are doing solo music. But do you think that the world even like slightly knows Zayn yet?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Okay, how about this? Describe yourself in three words.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
All the girls watching this are like, ah, so nice. That's so nice. What's your favorite thing about yourself?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
What's your least favourite thing about yourself?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I think that's good though. That means you care. Right?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Right. Do you think you at times can be too caring in moments that you need to learn to like... I'm learning to be a bit more tame with it.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
That's good though. Again, it does mean you care. But I get, then you're like, yeah, but then I'm over here like dying inside. I gotta like muster up the courage to be like.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Yeah, yeah. Put that into a song, okay? Give us one that's like really sad so we can like cry.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
What do you think is the biggest misunderstanding about you?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
It's actually nice to be in person with you. Cause I could see in media, it could come off. I get it like serious, You're literally just chilling. Yeah. You're relaxed.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
You're cozy in your sweater. There's thunder. There's rain.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Let's talk about anxiety. I know that you have lightly talked about it in times. And I just want to talk to you about like how anxiety affects your life. What has it done in terms of playing a part in your personal life and your career? Like, just talk to me about what you're comfortable with.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
so fucking cool to obviously my mom's a psychologist so i grew up and i think mental health was not a conversation for most families and hopefully it will be but like i've watched so my mom talked to so many people and talk them through how to get over a panic attack how to get over anxiety how to not get over it but like manage it live with it be okay to go about your everyday life i think sometimes if you don't have anxiety people look at people with anxiety like
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
just get the fuck over it. And I think it shows up in everyone's lives in such different ways.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy hey Zane, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
You know, totally. If you think about the first time you can recall in your life experiencing anxiety, did you experience anxiety prior to fame?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Take me to a moment in your life where you remember being like, wow, I didn't know that was anxiety, but now I do.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Yeah, people staring at you, judging you, writing about you, following you, taking pictures of you. That's a lot. Can you share with us like in the heyday of paparazzi and insanity, like what would be something that would really trigger your anxiety in those days?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Let's talk about you being a father because... it's really cool to see you talk about anxiety, which again, I have so much respect for even you being able to talk about it because I know it's like, you're not that public about your life. And that's something that you live with every day.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
And to say like having a child has helped you overcome something that is like in your day to day, that's like pretty debilitating in moments. Um, yeah, but you being famous and having a child, like,
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
want to be there you know no I get that I feel like that's also growing up like I was recently talking to some of my audience I was meeting them in person and we're like it's kind of weird when you just start to grow up you just get more specific with who you want to spend your time with I think that's a healthy thing obviously you're on a even bigger stage because you were around millions of people in stadiums and tours and everything but I also think that's kind of relatable it's like you know what sometimes I want to be alone and then I'll still hang with people but like you got to be good company
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Okay, how has becoming a dad shifted your priorities in life?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I love how you're like, I'm fully leaning in. There is no stopping me. Okay, well, you haven't cracked one here. So if you want to, you can always give us your best. But, you know, when it feels down.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
What is your favorite thing to do with your daughter?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Wow. We got a superstar in our hands. Okay. Okay. It's interesting to hear you say like you're singing to her, which like I would have loved if my dad could have sang. He can't. What are you singing to her? And like, what are her favorite songs that you sing?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Honestly, that's really cute thinking about you guys singing that. What qualities of yourself, aside from having that musical aspect, more like personality, what qualities do you see from yourself and your daughter?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
i think zane's like uh from me from me yeah okay so i want to ask you if i can ask one question just about like as delicately as i can go about it i feel like i wouldn't be doing my job if i didn't ask about the 2021 incident i know you can't really speak on it i think obviously as a man
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
you like, there was a lot out there said about you and you basically took the high road and didn't say anything. And you kind of put out that like blanket statement of just like, I want to respect my daughter and not say anything.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
And I can imagine how difficult it is kind of like almost a culmination of everything we're talking about today of like, how do you balance when something is out there about you, about your character that like, people are reading and speculating and saying things about you. And how do you decide when you, when to speak up and when to like be silent and like chill on it and not really go there.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I can only imagine like, first of all, no fucking family is perfect. And so to be on the stage that you guys are on, I...
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I more so just also wanted to give you the chance because I think you obviously handled it so amicably. I also think in doing my job, like this is a podcast where...
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I'm trying to support women right and like reading headlines like I wanted to hear from you obviously because hearing you even today I don't know if like I'm just gonna say what it is like you have said you have 50% custody and so anything that has we've all read online like well if that was true then that would have affected that so I think it's important to just say like
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
me doing my job i just wanted to clarify like it's not like unless you can correct me like you don't have to have people with you while you're with your daughter and like visitation rights like you have custody of your child yeah so i think it's just important to say because people are reading this shit being like oh yeah no for sure yeah and i'm super full-on yeah like hands-on with my child every chance i can be if i could get 60 i would have it yeah okay let's talk about your music you're coming back
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
We're getting a song. Tell me what inspired the song. What can we expect?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
We just need a bop. Like someone asked me recently like, oh, like what's the song of summer? And I actually said, you know what? Like I'm interviewing someone and I know they have a single coming out and I have a feeling that could be the song of summer. Are you nervous to go on stage like alone?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
you obviously love music, but can you share with us like what are some of your other hobbies? What are you passionate about? What's other than music?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Can we expect any music inspired by your daughter on your records?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Wow. I think that's going to be so fucking dope to actually hear from you in long form, essentially, because an album is in long form. Like we're going to get to know you more, which is exciting again, because Mr. Mysterious over there, we're still trying to understand things. Okay. What is something that you want your fans to take away from this interview?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Okay, tell me one of your dishes. Come on, I can't cook for shit.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Is this like new or were you always good at cooking?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
That's kind of nice to be able to know like you can cook, you're over there painting, you can sing. Okay, no big deal. Don't keep bragging over there.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Actually, there's a couple. You'll see them on your way out and then you'll never look at me the same. I have never done a podcast in my childhood home. So this feels like a little sentimental. Also, you never really do interviews. I don't. When is the last time you did something like this?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
What are you saying? I'm like not laughing because it's funny.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
And when you say you're holding your chicken, like are you holding your chicken like this?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Zane, I didn't know that about you. I wouldn't have pegged you as like a Harry Potter guy.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
That's really good. Okay, and what are the dogs' names?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Yeah, it does sound pretty good. Something I love to do on Call Her Daddy is like, the reason we all are the way that we are is because of our childhood, where we came from, who we were raised by, our environment growing up. Obviously you living in Pennsylvania right now is so different from where you grew up in the UK, in Bradford, like you described.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Can you explain to people that may not be familiar with Bradford, like what was your upbringing like and what was that environment like?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
So we're kind of like popping the cherry back off.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
When you talk about like people would question your identity, I know your family is not from the UK. Your family is Pakistani.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Okay. So did, are you saying like, is that how that was influenced?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
So you're living in Pennsylvania and I obviously grew up here. I loved it growing up. It's very family oriented, very suburban. But I'm curious to know, like, of all the trendy spots that you could have picked, why Pennsylvania?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
You've got to be able to, like, hold your own.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
And when you say people are coming at you, is it more like peer dynamics of, or is it more like authoritative figures?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
So you have three sisters. Okay. And so you are the one boy and three sisters. What was it like growing up with all mostly women around you? Like, how do you think that shaped you?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
I really love when I meet a guy and you can just tell that he has sisters because you can just tell the way they move around women. You guys learned what a fucking tampon is earlier.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Wow. So you were like really supporting that time of the month.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Were you reluctant to go to the store and buy anything?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
You wouldn't stick like a couple extra like snacks around it. You're just like tampons.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Zayn's like, I'll take the supers. These bitches are on it.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Okay, to people obviously that weren't there in your childhood, how would you describe your personality as a kid?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Right, we're right, for sure, for sure. So you were getting in trouble a little bit.
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Okay, so you were kind of just like doing your thing as a kid, but I also think the way that you're describing the environment that you grew up, was there... a way that you could have gone down the wrong path easily because of that environment, it was easy to get wrapped up in the wrong crowd?
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Zayn: For the First Time in 6 Years (FBF)
Did you get along with kids in school? Were you like the cool kid? Were you bullied? Like what was the vibe?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
You did say you did. Yes. And then but you also told Leah that you weren't attracted to blondes.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay. I was just curious because obviously Leah was like, what the fuck? He said he wasn't into blondes. And then we have Liv and then we have Andrea.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
So when Andrea comes in, what was your first impression like during your first conversations with her?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay. You can imagine how that's confusing though. Cause you were spending a lot of time with her.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Yeah. And so you decided to be upfront with Leah that you were kind of feeling Andrea in that moment, which I do think everyone like appreciated that you were upfront about it. You were like, I'm really still feeling you Leah, but I do want to get to know her and I'd be lying if I didn't. Were you afraid to have that conversation with Leah?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay. But as you can imagine from Leah's perspective, like, that sucks to be like, I'm going to get to know someone. And it's like, oh, fuck. I'm not good enough that, like, you want to go try something different, obviously. Were you worried that you would lose her?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
The love island experience is odd. Like it's not normal. Like in the real world, when you're single.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
But are you usually at least talking to like a couple people at once? Like do you have like a little roster?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay. So in real life though, you don't usually have like a couple women. Are people going to come forward and be like, what are you talking about?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
What is the most romantic thing you've ever done for a girl?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Well, because you thought there was a chance they were going to be like, you ruined our family's reputation. You dragged our name through the rug.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
okay um back to love island okay the love triangle was clearly short-lived and can you walk me through the infamous conversation with leah where she goes to basically confront you and is like hey what the fuck like i feel like you're spending time with her and then it blows up and the whole thing just it was basically like the last conversation that ended your guys relationship romantically yeah oh wait oh the one where i jumped in the pool yes okay
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
That was kind of like the breaking point. Okay. Take me to that conversation.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I feel like that was like a classic, like you both were so hurt. And when you were both speaking to each other, you both needed the other one to validate the other one. And you both were so hurt that like you couldn't do that because you needed the person to be like, no, you're right. And neither of you could give that because you were so upset. But why do you think you had a panic attack?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Like what was it that was causing you so much angst?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Have you checked your DMs yet? What's going on in there, Rob?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay, but to your guys' credit, it's like you guys are in this experiment box and you can't take yourself out of it. That's the beauty and the hard part of it. I get it. You're like, wait, if I had gotten to just go home for five minutes and talk to my family and hung out, I would have come back in and been like, listen, ladies, let's all get to know each other. It's not that deep. Whoever...
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
picks who like we're all still here let's just keep hanging like we've known each other for 24 hours like but in the moment it's so intense because it's also fucking with people's like time while you're there and can someone almost get sent home like it's so many dynamics that like it is heightened um you made a pretty fucked comment in that conversation about how there was no sexual connection i did not say that yeah i did not say there's no sexual connection
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
you weren't feeling the sexual connection between you and Leah.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
You said, I mean, we can look it up. You said basically, like, you were not feeling the sexual relationship.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
And so what were you feeling? Because you clearly have a sexual connection with her, no? Or no?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Cause I think obviously like that sucked to see because I, on her side, just like as a girl, you're like, fuck, like there's no rebuttal. It's like saying you have no chemistry with someone. Yeah.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
understandably was so upset by that comment and then she slept outside that night because i think she went to serena after that was like i literally feel like what the fuck like i feel like gross like i'm like oh my god am i not sexually attractive to him but that's not what you were saying not at all and i told her that okay you gotta understand these conversations they're like max five minutes long yeah that was at least an hour yeah at the very least there's probably more of us talking up there
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
In that moment when I was watching, and you can clarify, it felt also like you were saying that, and I could be wrong, but I feel like the viewers kind of felt this way, and when you shared that with her, you used that as an example of why you basically were gonna maybe try and make things work with Andrea.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Can you explain that you weren't able to get to her? Like, do they they physically put you in different rooms and you can't see people? Oh, are you not allowed to talk about it? I can't talk about it. Yeah. Really? I think everyone knows that. OK, so I'm going to. Yeah, OK. I'll just assume that you guys are like it separated.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
And can we just like finish the conversation on how everyone thought that you were potentially crying to manipulate the situation? I think a lot of people looked at the situation like, wow, he's in a position of power. He's getting to pick between these two women. If anyone's crying and he's crying, like fucking Leah should be crying if anyone's crying. But she didn't, obviously.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
And so people were struggling to know if the tears were genuine or if they were like a manipulation tactic to like,
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
What do you think your biggest flaw is when it comes to dating?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Is that like so surreal that like you have someone like that in your DMs?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I think people felt that. You kind of shut off after all that happened. Are your parents still together?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
You're like, I don't want to say what I got from my dad moving on. That's fine. I respect it. Is there a theme? I know you kind of talk about communication, but I want to know a little bit more. Like, is there a theme of why every relationship you've had has ended?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
And what do you feel when you start, like someone starts to get close to you?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Turn it off. You're not allowed to look at your phone when I ask you a deep question. Go ahead.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I appreciate though, and I think a lot of people watching this will appreciate, Rob, that you're like... you do take accountability in what you're saying. You're like, I know I fucked up. I know I'm the one that fucked up. I want to like figure out my shit. There's so many people
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
one of your friends that we saw this season that like doesn't take accountability and is like acting like no I didn't do that like what are you talking about I didn't do that like you're like no I did that and I fucked up and I don't know why the fuck I did that like I think that's progress I think that's like the first step to actually like understanding why the fuck you make certain decisions yeah right I I try to be a good person I really do do I think I'm a good person
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
whatever you want to call it i saw that everyone was like up in arms on the internet about you got out of the villa and you followed leah and then eventually you followed all of the rest and andrea and all of them yeah but is it freak you out that like all everyone is like seeing everything you're doing or do you love the attention come on rob look what you're wearing you love the attention
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I feel like your thing this season was like you run when things get a little hard. Like you physically run under the pool. You would like walk away from things. You would go to soul ties by yourself and like stand there. And like I think you – do you do that in your real life? Like do you kind of like remove yourself when things are getting a little complicated or heightened?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Right. Oh, it's like your confessional is your journal. Right. But staring into a camera is a little.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
So you then couple up with Andrea and you were together for four days. And obviously like you went from being with Leah to then being with Andrea, like what did you feel like was the core difference in those two relationships that you experienced? You went from being with Leah to then being with Andrea.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Like, what did you feel like was the core difference in those two relationships that you experienced?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Yeah, that's a good point too. Like, women think about this if you're listening like you get upset after a fourth date if a guy ghosts you and you're because you're like well we went on our fourth date fourth date fourth day for you for almost 24 hours of basically hanging out sleeping together oh it's like our 20th day yeah yeah Yeah. OK, so it got super emotional.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
And then obviously when elimination came around, the girls decided to send Andrea home.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
And the world was fucking shocked. Like people online were like, this is the craziest episode that we've ever seen in Love Island history. Like, what the fuck? Yeah. And obviously you were shocked. What do you remember feeling when you heard her name called?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay, first talk to me about the overalls for a second. So you did bring other clothes, obviously. But like, was this the first thing you packed?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I understand your like explain your reasoning to maybe people that forget why you didn't leave.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Do you regret the way that you responded though in that moment? Because you obviously got Andrea's hopes up.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Had she not got sent home. Do you think that you guys would have gone to the finale together?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Have you seen the TikTok that's trending that like you sat up there and you thought like you said, oh, you're sending three home. Now you're fucking in your overalls.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
So. After the elimination of Andrea, she's gone. And Leah basically told you that she took a backseat in that decision of the process of sending Andrea home. And this caused so much fucking drama between you and Leah. You called her a liar. It caused drama between Leah and all the women.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Now looking back, what do you actually believe happened?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Yeah, I was not trying to like- You can't even remember Kaylor's name.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
No, no, you're fine. You're fine. I'm interested to talk to you about all that. Yeah.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
No, I agree. I think like, understandably, Leah, when she called Liv over, thought that Liv was gonna be like, oh yeah, we got your back, girl. And then Liv was like, no, I'm gonna be real. This is how I feel about it. And then in that moment, it should have been like, okay, I didn't know that. So Liv
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
It's interesting because this isn't even a question for you. It's a question for production. And I think everyone on the internet is feeling it. It's like, why will they not just air the clip? Just air the clip of the girls in the huddle.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
No, we've never seen it. No one ever aired it. And I think a lot of people have a conspiracy that like Leah was getting a bad edit. So maybe it completely clears her name and they don't want to put it up or like, I don't know what the fuck happened in that huddle, but like they never aired it.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
no but that's once again he said she said which i don't want to talk about that yeah in a negative way towards anybody because i don't like talking bad about people at all no but i get it like you're in the middle of this drama and everyone it's like this one thing everyone's like what the fuck was the decision and understandably everyone's gonna like say their piece but i just wish show us the fucking footage just show us the footage yeah just play and i thought we were gonna get that on movie night and we didn't we're like just play
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
But were you feeling yourself in it, too? Like, did you think the ladies were going to love the overalls? No. No.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Rob, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Rob. Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob. I feel like so many women around the world right now have so many feelings and emotions towards you. So today we're going to really peel back the onion and we're going to get into it.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
That's ridiculous to me. No, that whole thing just became so much bigger than it was meant to be.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Well, also, at the end of the day, no matter what Leah said in that circle, there were three, what, three or four girls making that decision.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Are you currently doing D on D? Currently, I'm not D on D. And what is D on D to people that maybe didn't watch the season of Love Island?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I know. Play the fucking clip, Peacock. They should air that as, like, a bonus episode. And it's, like, a two-second clip.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I would fucking pay for it. In the real world, do you have an easy time trusting partners? In the real world, do you have an easy time trusting partners?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
And can you talk about that? Because it feels a little bit masochistic. It feels a little bit like rug burn. Do you know?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Right, it was the toxic college thing where it's like, ugh.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Oh, my God. Yeah. Definitely don't share the story. Congrats. Congrats. So proud of you. Out of that toxic shit with Rob.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
your boy your boy aaron throughout this season online sometimes people would joke that like you guys were the strongest couple in the i've seen a lot of that a lot of that well how would you describe your friendship
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay, during Casa Amor. Now we, like, we really need you to give us some information, okay? To clarify this, we don't have to speak about this again. We watched Aaron basically cheat on Kayla with Daniela.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay, they were open, but it was like pretty fucking slimy.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay. When it was time to return to the villa, you brought his girl, Daniela, back in with you. Right. And he returned as single so that he could present as loyal basically to Kayla. And he's like, I want you. What the fuck happened? Do not lie to me. Tell me what happened.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
What is your lucky underwear? You don't need to show me. You don't need to show me. Okay, so that kind of sounds like a little bit of a kink. Like you like your dick on denim. What is some like weird shit that you like in the bedroom that's maybe a little like unexpected?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
No. That's what's been so crazy online is everyone's like, why the fuck was that not played at movie night? I don't know if Kayla even knows that yet. She probably does now that she's out.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I didn't know that. Oh, it was like the biggest thing on the internet.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Right. Okay. So he did. So he did articulate that. That's true. I forgot about that. Thank you. Can you please tell us about the conversation?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
maybe 10 minutes after that conversation he was like please forget everything I just said that's an awful idea I'm going back to Kayla and I really like Kayla like let's just don't bring her back at all unless you really want to and I was like okay and just for like anyone who's for some reason is watching this and never watched Love Island basically the point is Aaron was coupled up with Kayla goes into a new house with all new women is making out with this new girl and then basically asks Rob to bring that girl back into the villa on his accord so that like
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Yeah, that's what color daddy is. You have to tell me. What's something like a little like off the beaten path that you like in the bedroom?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay. So you just got off the plane from Fiji. You came directly here after getting eliminated. How has it been like acclimating to the real world?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Yeah. Aaron is kind of in the doghouse on the Internet.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I just met you. But everyone in America knows you. You just met me. I know you.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
yeah but he gets really emotional for you there are so many clips of like his emotions towards you versus everyone else even kaylor like he was sobbing when he thought you were gonna leave it's kind of cute so for the rest of your time in the villa you obviously kind of like didn't find that connection that was as strong as andrea or leah and i don't know if you've seen all the fan edits you have seen all the fan edits of you and leah
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
The entire world wanted you guys to end up together. Would you ever try to make it work in the real world?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
No, that's the honest truth. That's the honest truth.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
No, no. I saw you in the heart rate challenge. I've seen you in your cowboy outfit. I know you're getting up to some kinky shit in there.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Was it as epic in the villa, the feelings that you guys had as compared to these fan edits? Because you guys had this like, it feels like this unsaid insane attraction and it was this whole whirlwind and did it feel that way?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
How do you think Leah feels about you now? Obviously, we saw you're like.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Because everyone was like, oh my God, that felt too perfect that it was like produced. No.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Well, and it's like music goes into it, which like there was a music playing. Yeah, exactly, which heightens it up. While you're fucking saying that.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
But you both did you say like love you, which I feel like a not an I love you, but a love you is pretty friend zoning.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Because it's like once you say love you to someone, it's like, oh, wow. Because if you were really going to be in a romantic situation, you'd probably like save those words.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Which you just said you guys are friends. Okay, I'm curious. Andrea. She said after she left that she would love to rekindle things with you. This probably was a while ago. I know she's been like posting a lot. Would you want to give your guys relationship a shot in the real world or no?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Did it in the beginning of the villa? I think with Andrea, you looked at her and you were like, I'm sorry. Like, I haven't ejaculated in a really long time. Like, I'm having a hard time.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
So did you reach out or did she reach out when you got your phone?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
It is interesting because I feel like that must be weird for you of like –
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
everyone was sort of certain way in the villa and now that everyone's going to be done and it's coming out and everyone you're going to see everyone like i wonder if you're going to feel the same type of way have you thought about that like once you see them in the real world like will you feel the same type of way about them as you did with like these kind of blinders on in the villa yeah it is like it's like when you're in the villa it's like tunnel vision and you get outside the tube's gone you know it's like you're just a girl yeah yeah still be like down to hang with her right or is she like not the vibe because it's yeah it's
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
OK, I'm going to say the names of women that you connected with on like the season. And I want you to describe your relationship with them in one word.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
one word yep or if you want to describe your relationship no one word that's great you got this this is a rob thing yeah that's why i said one word one word it's good okay ready i guess let me think do i know that okay okay cassidy cassidy shy sex no i had sex with cassie cassie but cassidy did you didn't have sex with her you couldn't hold out anymore
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Did you do it in the bed when everyone was in the room? Yes, Rob. That's a yes.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
No, you did because this is a podcast. That's bad journalism. Yeah, you just gave me a yes in your eyes.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
No, no, no. We're not onioning. We are so fucking peeled down. You're doing so great.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Thank you. You're pretty good at this. Thank you. You're a hard one to crack. Like I will say, everyone at home that's like, why aren't you asking this? I'm trying. But we have gotten progress. Okay, so you did it in the room. Did you come, like, just on the sheets? Did housekeeping have to clean that up the next morning? Robert!
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Well, you eventually came. We'll talk about that. Okay. Are you enjoying the attention or is it freaking you out?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay. Did your, did any of the people on the island know what happened until she said?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
You're like, I feel light as a feather right now. God, you had been waiting for that.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Now you got us all making like clips of that. Think about how many fan edits.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
They did work on me. And I should know better. I like know this shit.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay. Okay. If you had to go into the hideaway with one person from the season right now, who would you go with?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
no and did everyone know about it no only you no it wasn't in the villa fuck i can't say it anymore okay moving on all right um how do you think the women obviously like everyone's having feelings about you as you've gotten your phone how do you think the women are feeling about you in america um okay basically i'm a toxic gaslighter
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
You guys did seem like you had a good little... Yeah, I would say Andrea. Okay, I need you to clear something up. During the body count game, your answer was mysteriously just completely skipped over.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
You kind of are giving porn star right now. Like I'm waiting for you to like gyrate on the chair. Not going to happen. You're not going to do that though. Nope. Anyways, okay, what is the weirdest place that you've ever had sex?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Well, clearly, you could be quiet. No one knew in the villa that you had had sex. OK, are you actually taking a break from dating? I know you keep saying it. You're thinking you've got to chill on that. You're going to have everyone as friends.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
What are you thinking right now? You need to run home to Alabama and get in your bed.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
When you pick up your first snake, what are you going to do to it? Kiss it?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Are you going to see everyone for the reunion? Isn't there a reunion? There's a reunion coming up. Are you excited? Are you nervous?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
No, we're almost... I'm serious. I haven't thought about it. This is basically the last question. I promise. We have two more questions.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
So we'll take our time. What are you stressed about going to this reunion?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
why okay will you tell me off camera who you're the most nervous about i'll tell you okay okay okay but you're gonna go and you're gonna be like drama free because you kind of what if miguel and leah aren't together i'd be like damn sorry guys i'd be like damn that sucks i was really rooting for y'all take their hands okay rob closing statement what would you like to say to the ladies of america who love or hate you
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
everything about me and what do you think this episode is evoking what do you think we're giving today i don't know i blacked out i don't really know i kind of blacked out too i was i feel like i had to ask you the same question over and over to get you to answer and then we just kept going and i think we got a lot of answers right you did all the like the stuff i thought like all the like drama stuff right all that stuff it's all good like i'm and i know you're not going to answer the questions of like who did you not like in the villa would you answer that
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
No, exactly. You're shaking your head. For those of you that are listening, driving to work, he's shaking his head.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I know, but you know that people are going to be like, why the fuck did you guys not ask certain questions? Like when, okay. The one move moment from movie night when you saw Leah making fun of you crying.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
And then she apologized and it seemed super genuine.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
the heart rate challenge do you get a little excited no yeah you did i did not you got excited for leah i got excited oh you mean like a boner no i'm just saying like you got the most the way you look excited that's how you said it you said it like a boner like don't make me weird you said it like that you said you get a little excited you winked at me you got a little excited like your heart rate went up the most for her that's why the fan edits are popping off rob
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
i don't i just did no i actually think miguel is an awesome guy and it's gonna be interesting to see this is the fascination around the show it's like he what he lives in the uk right and she lives in calabasas it's gonna be interesting for people and same with aaron right like he doesn't he's moving to america where does kaylor live oh my god i'm from pennsylvania she's from a town of 6 000
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I don't feel like- I don't feel like I do, but maybe I do. I don't know.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I don't know. Aaron seems to love those flashy lights.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
You need the woods. Okay, Rob, is there anything else you want to say? Like, do you feel like you got everything off your chest?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
i'll see you in a year we'll catch up we'll check in see how you feel about it all whatever you need thank you rob for coming on thank you this was lovely yeah this was a nice time it was good i was like it was good like you didn't feel like it was it harder than you thought it was gonna be no was it more fun than you thought it was gonna be yes that's good you came in here nervous yeah definitely i'm still nervous
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
And he's like that. Dave is honest. Dave is very honest. Even if it hurts your feelings, he's honest.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay, to your credit, I will say to you, I feel like you were upfront at all times with everyone. And maybe you weren't like, the most articulate and like long form sentences about it. But you did tell people upfront how you were feeling in moments.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Even if it upset people, which I feel like there were other people in the villa that like would skirt around the truth because they knew it was gonna hurt someone really. It's like, just tell people the fucking truth. So you don't look like a piece of shit because all of this is on camera. You know what I mean? Okay, I agree with you on the conflicted thing.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I think people are like, I'm in love with him, but I feel like he'd break my heart slash maybe he's a little bit of a red flag. What is it like to date you, Rob? Take us through the journey. What do you think it's like to date you?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay. Okay. I guess if all of your exes were in this room right now, what would they say about you?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay, we'll get back to that. This was not your first time on Love Island. You were in Casa Amor last season, but you didn't make it out of the villa. Why did you want to go back to the show?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
So you were looking for a girlfriend. Were you looking for a wife or do you not think you're there yet?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
I had to like pause. I didn't know what you were fucking saying. You're saying like the way the villa looks is so bright.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay, it's time to relive it. Let's go through it. Let's go through Love Island. Don't look so sad.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Oh, I don't know if you can do... I don't think it will work. I don't think so. Oh, okay. You're trying to set the vibe so you can like be calm.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay. I like you too. Do you want to like take your shoes off?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Or do you want like a blanket? Do you want anything to make you cozier? Don't be anxious. I promise you you're doing great.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
You're doing really good. We've got a blankie. No, it's okay. I don't need it.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
So you are a liar. I'm just kidding. Okay. But you're just uncomfortable because this is a lot for you. It's like new.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay, well, I think it's fair that we can say for everyone watching, to clarify again, you literally got on a plane, you got your phone on your way to the airport, you got on the plane, you landed here and we're doing this. This is not a month later or even a week later. You have barely had time to even see all the fan edits on TikTok. You know what I mean? This is fresh.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
So I think that's good to clarify. And like when we're talking about this, it's almost like you're still on the island. And I'm sure if I interviewed you a month from now, you're going to have a complete different perspective.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Okay. That's not kind of what I was asking though. I just, I don't know when you got your phone back.
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
We'll do a follow up. OK, so we'll compare notes from now to a month from now or a year from now. Where will Rob be in a year from now? We'll talk about it. OK, you get into the villa. You're an original cast member. And the first person that you are coupled up with on day one is Leah. What was your first impression of her?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
And how long were you guys in the villa alone together before Andrea came in?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
How did you like handle all of it? Like what did you first do when you got your phone?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Yes, I agree. I was pretty shocked too. And then you were like, you and Leah were pretty upset. Like you wanted to make your way back to each other kind of. And like, we could feel that in the beginning. I think we could all feel like you guys really liked each other and you guys shared a brain cell. Can you fucking explain what that means?
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Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
it's insane i'm telling you it's an insane experience that's like built to get your emotions up yeah which is like it's good that's how it works it's like putting a relationship in a microwave like you know someone for a week you feel like you know them for a month like it's crazy well then andrea comes in and i remember you're sitting at the fire pit and you're like oh my god that is the most gorgeous woman i've ever seen in my life did i say that actually yeah you said that you were at the fire pit you turned to the guys you're like that's the most gorgeous woman i've ever seen in my life i
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
And we zoomed for like an hour and a half and we wouldn't shut the fuck up. And we won't talk about what we were talking about because it was like everything. Our publicist just kept being like, this is off the record. This is off the record. This is off the record. Emma, don't tell her that. I'm like, I'm not going to go say anything. But so we just start talking.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Let's talk high school. Yeah. You go to a private school. Yeah. I've seen the videos. You're wearing a plaid skirt. Sort of plaid.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
But it was a weird moment because I think my brand was still very sexual. Yeah. So we said we were going to potentially have like a collaboration. You were going to come on. It never ended up happening. It just wasn't the right time. Then the next time we saw each other was New York Fashion Week.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Guys, anything. When you so when you started high school, that's interesting to know. You did have college goals.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
It's okay. It sounds good. Whatever. It sounds good enough.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
When did you have your first kiss? Like if you're not with boys, like when did you have your first kiss?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
How did you meet the guy then if you were at an all-girls school?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Yeah, we were. It was kind of funny because we were, to give people again context, it was like a 10-person dinner party. And Emma and I are in the corner while I was eating bread. You weren't because you were about to go to the Met Gala.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
You start making videos at one point in high school. Yes. And when I was growing up, I was familiar with having a camera in my face because my dad is in the TV industry. Yes. And so every single Christmas or birthday, there's cameras everywhere in my house. And so naturally, I knew I was the star. And I know that's cringe. No, it's not cringe, though. But back then, I was like, Dad? Cue the cam.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Here I come. I'm meant to be right here. What do you remember about your early performances on a camera?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
what compelled you to press upload on your first YouTube video?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
We just were talking by ourselves the entire time about like life and the industry and how it's affected us. And it was like I think that was when we're like maybe we are eventually now ready to sit down and just converse because both of our brands have evolved. Absolutely. And it's time.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
any part of this so I'm just gonna go robot mode and like just like I you know you stop at a certain point you stop processing it it's it's a really weird thing to try to explain too because it's not like you're a singer where you're like filling a stadium for a concert so you're like making these things and pressing upload and then going to bed and like yet it's crazy to see that number but it still doesn't fully register that like we're
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Yes. And we're going to get into that because. Yes. But first. Yes. Why did you drop out of high school.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Do you have you ever been had one of those moments like a little jealous of that, like classic college experience you see on TikTok? People are at the frat parties. Do you ever be like, OK? Yes. Is it more about the social aspect that you kind of wish you could partake in?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
impeccable result no it's true I almost got married six times that is helpful to hear you say and we're going to get into that like the evolution of you and then the evolution also of your brand because those are two different things and I think as creators like in a great way I think people have started to kind of peel back the layer and show people on the internet like what it is like to have an online persona versus like what is actually who you are versus that persona absolutely so
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
you know you there's no way to prepare college is basically four years of you to be able to fake act like an adult yeah you don't really have much responsibility but you are on your own and for you it was like oh wait no you actually do have responsibility because if you don't keep uploading like you don't have a job and you didn't apply to college so like where are we going at 16 years old you become famous on the internet how did people start treating you differently
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
When you say you didn't have any friends, did you feel lonely?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
When do you remember the first time you got recognized?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
You're like, oh, my God, you guys, I just got asked for a picture. Your grandma.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Eventually, though, you did start to gain attention. How did you handle initially getting noticed in public and like the attention?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Here we go. Just like I usually do in every Call Her Daddy episode, we're going all the way back. All the way back. Where did you grow up?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
It feels like no one hates you. And I'm going to take notes right now because I'm a little bit more polarizing. Why do you think you're so lovable?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Yeah. Like it's almost like you, everyone ebbs and flows with hate and love. Yeah. If you're putting content out there. Yeah. And also everyone's memory is so short on shit. People don't give a fuck. No, they act like they do because it's fun to like get together in a group and be like, let's handle this person. But then in a week they're like, Oh my God, like you're doing this.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
And then they love you. And it just ebbs and flows. But that is a good point to say like, To hear from you saying like you do get hate. Yeah. To summarize, like what do they hate you for?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
It does suck. You know. Well it's hard because then you get all these good comments and then you see one and you're like it sticks with you and then it's like wait all these people are actually like telling you how great you are and they love the content and then you see one and then you're like my whole day sucks.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Thank you so much. So my first question for you is you don't do interviews.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy are we ready when is the last time you did an interview oh my god not ever face to face i don't think i've ever done an interview face to face okay well let's start emma chamberlain Hi, Alex Koopy. Welcome to Call Her Daddy. Koopy, oh my God, we're on like nickname terms. Emma, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
So your parents are in some of your content. They seem very chill. How do you describe your parents?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
I know you said like you didn't know any different. But do you now looking back, like how did your parents divorce affect you?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
What do you remember about signing up for your first social media account? Yeah.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Like what the fuck? Thinking back to like the first like couple, like the first year of Instagram, we would have like borders on our photos and like disgusting filters.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
You would take a picture of like your shoe or like an extension cord and be like, life's long. And then you're like, what am I saying? It was dumb shit.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
I'm like traumatized. I'm like, what the fuck was I posting? Because I was like a little older and I was like trying to be cool.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
With the cute selfies. Yeah. And those were not cute selfies. Those were scary and spooky. What... Did your parents have any rules or guidelines when you like first started on Snapchat and Instagram? Or did they just kind of let you do whatever you wanted?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Because were you getting in trouble as a kid? Like, were you a good kid?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
quickly to give people context that are listening of our story I was thinking about this the other day so Emma and I have were like represented by the same agency and this was like right when I started the show like the single father era of taking the show on by myself and I was starting to have guests on and I remember my agent was like do you want to meet with Emma Chamberlain and I'm like absolutely sure we get on zoom and
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Isn't that so sad that like it when you if you get a dick pic and that's the first penis you see like you're like not attracted to it. Like I was terrified. It makes you scared.
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
Everybody that listens to my show knows that I was obsessed with Hannah Montana growing up. Same. Okay. Because I was going to ask you, I'm like, who were you idolizing and watching when you were growing up that you were obsessed with?
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Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF)
he deserved more he did he did have you ever met them I met I've met Joe I went to the Hannah Montana concert where it was like half Hannah Montana half the Miley show and I remember the Jonas Brothers opened for them and I remember my dad being like I promise you in like a year everyone's gonna be obsessed with these guys and I was like no and then I was obsessed in a year I was like I love them and then when like Nick had the diabetes thing we were all like
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Can you talk about just for anyone that doesn't understand the difference between being bisexual and pansexual? Yeah.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
i really like you i was like okay so it's i feel like it's honestly very similar and i think when people think it's so much more common than people realize and i think it's great when anyone is like speaks up about it because it's not their responsibility to educate us but like it is our responsibility to listen yeah are there any pansexual um celebrities that you admire okay madison bailey she's in outer banks love her
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
you're raised to be like what so which boy do you like and even aside from the sex like the sex part of it you're more just like oh so i'm supposed to like like a boy and hopefully they like me exactly and it starts with like the hopefully they like me part is really where it gets in like your brain because honestly like i think like we like women are pieces of art and we
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
I just crave it. When you're dating. It really is interesting. I feel like I saw a TikTok on this recently of someone being like, you're constantly looking at the person that you're on a first date, second date with, and you're hoping that they're going to like you. And it's like, you leave that first date. Did you like them? Yeah. Did you like their personality?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
And I think that's very relatable. Yeah. OK, how has being open about who you really are affected your mental health?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
OK, I remember lightly seeing there were like ridiculous rumors on TikTok that you came out for attention. People were saying one of your relationships was fake. Why do you think that happened?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
How has being open about your sexuality affected your friendships?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
I also love the confidence of you being like, you know, I'm going to own it. I'm going to give you guys another chance. I'm going to explain it to you and you can take it for what you want it to be.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
so in terms of relationships everyone is always writing into me like Alex give us advice on long distance relationships how the fuck do I maintain this what do I do is it worth it should I stay with this person you've had a long distance relationship how did you manage to stay close with someone who lives so far away well I've had numerous long distance relationships and
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
I feel like Florida and California are completely different. And now you lived in both. Which do you prefer?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
I do appreciate though, like I have did the same thing when I was somewhat long distance, scheduling those FaceTime dates. You naturally would be probably going on a date this Thursday night. Like, hey, let's have a date night FaceTime date and schedule that time. That's really good advice.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Do you think being in a long distance relationship makes it more difficult to live in the present moment?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
That's why those are they are so hard is because I'm thinking about it's like you can feel guilty. You can feel start to feel insecure. Like what is the other person doing?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
I've had in long distance when, you know, they're going out and you're not. And you're like, I'm sitting in my pajamas with my pimple cream on. And you see that they're like going to the club and you want to not be like over the top. Cause you don't want to trigger them of like, Oh God, I have my like crazy girlfriend being like, well, are you going to text me?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
And you're at the clubs, you're trying to be chill. But then you're also like, make me feel secure. Yeah. Exactly.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Was there anything ever you or a partner did that was like super cute to keep it fun and like surprise one another? No.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Oh, yeah. I'm, like, wait, are you going to die? Like, what?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
And then... He just took it too far. It just went...
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Do you think there's an expiration date to like all long distance relationships?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Or even when people are going to different colleges from each other and they're like, should I break up with this person? I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but probably because it's like, you're not going to be present. Yeah. And we're too young to not be present in our lives.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
OK, so more general dating questions. Do you consider flirting cheating? One thousand percent. Why are you flirting with someone else? If your partner has never posted any pictures of you on social media, do you consider that a red flag?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Like a camera in my face in the morning. Yeah. Like maybe not. Yeah. Okay. Is it okay to break up with someone through a text message?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Do you think, do you think it's, I wasn't expecting you to be so definitive. So I know I'm just, no, I'm 1000%.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
well yeah oh yeah like also that um right I've like called people like yeah like I've done that like that's like email the email what is the subject line of a breakup email sorry sorry goodbye have a nice life yeah yeah that's rough it's rough but I get what you're saying like in some circumstances it could be maybe justified I think an Instagram DM is a little aggressive Olivia yeah well I didn't do that I just got I got broken up with over an Instagram DM and I was like
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Yeah, that is harsh. That's really hard. Can you unsend it so I don't have to see it anymore? Okay. Which is worse for you? A heated argument with your partner in front of A, your parents, B, your friends, or C, your people you work with?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
I kind of agree and it's kind of like embarrassing like again you can justify if like it's a dumb fight and you go to your parents you're like okay we're having an off day to the work people you work with you're like I don't even I we shouldn't even have to be having this conversation because this is work and like why are we now why did you just watch me fight with my partner like exactly not a little awkward now totally okay so you being
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
on social media so often. I think like everyone that is on social media, I definitely think in the pandemic, it was like kind of almost not, I would never say healthy, but like it was helping a lot of people with loneliness and TikTok came about because everyone was like finding almost a community through there.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Now I think a lot of people are back to talking about the negative effects of social media. And there's a lot of like detrimental things to our mental health that come from it. Can you talk about
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
certain things i'll talk about and like bring up and be like hey that wasn't cool but kind of just like genuinely doing that yeah i think i mean i don't have my comment section on anymore and i think like a lot of people still to this day are like oh you can't take the heat and i'm like it's actually not it was actually that i i will i yeah it was hurting my feelings yeah that it i were just like it wasn't helping my life so i turned them off and now
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
I think I've gotten to the point where I'm like, why? Yeah. Why would I like go back? Because I don't really want to hear. And I do love when people are so nice and they're like, oh, open your comments so we can like hype you up. Like you look great. But I'm like, you know what? It's like the negative validate or the negative comments.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Like also sometimes how much positive validation we get on the internet is not normal also. Yeah. So kind of like, I think it was probably a good idea for a moment to like step back if it's affecting you. Fully, fully, fully. What is your advice for people who are bombarded with images on social media that make them feel bad about themselves?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Yeah. Everyone is going to present their perfect life. And even think if you have an insecurity, think about yourself. What did you just post? Yeah. A perfect looking. Exactly.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
even though I like very much I'm guilty of already doing it but yeah it's like a vicious cycle like I don't post as much as I used to definitely because I keep having to remind myself like wait why am I posting this again like what who is this for yeah like what's the point of this yeah so summer like I said wrapping it up summer is upon us Olivia do you have advice for women that are just like trying to go live their best life in summer but maybe are feeling a little insecure are feeling like they're not ready to like
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
I think that's great advice. So many women write in being like, I'm in a new city. How do I make friends? And the fact that you're like, you literally just turn to someone like, hey, I'm Olivia. You're kind of right. A lot of these cities specifically, I know people have moved to Austin, Nashville. So many people are moving to these cities. Chicago. And they're like, got no friends.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
But we're all saying it. So just maybe try and introduce yourself and see what happens.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Olivia's going to Egypt and I'm going to be on my couch watching your Instagram stories.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
I'm so excited for you. Honestly, congratulations on everything. Thank you. Getting that swimsuit. Like it's just truly like I grew up looking at that shit. Oh, me too. I don't believe it's a dream.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
I can't even imagine going by myself at 19 years old to a foreign country also to prepare for like one of like the biggest moments of your career. It's like fucking huge.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Okay. So you show up and I was thinking like, okay, obviously I'm sure there were like so many glamorous moments of shooting this, but we need to hear Olivia, the not so glamorous moments. Like what was an unglamorous moment with you that you were like, oh my God, people would never anticipate. Yeah.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Olivia. Hi. Welcome to Call Her Daddy. It's an honor to be here. So, it's summer. It's June 1st. Yes, ma'am. But you grew up in Florida. Yes. So, was it summer, like, all the time vibe for you?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Congratulations. I mean, it's so cool to sit with you and like hear the behind the scenes also because it's like such a cool moment. Also, especially because you're 19, Olivia. Is your family like...
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Okay. So did you, cause I'm thinking like this is basically kicking off like the summer vibe for call her daddy. Did you and your family, like what was your summer situation? Did you take trips and vacations during summer? Yeah.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Good for you. OK, well, not only are you blowing up in the modeling world, but you've blown up on TikTok. Yes. So we're going to play a little game called TikTok Made Me Do It.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Okay, so now I need to go try it. Okay, something you've bought because of TikTok. TikTok.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
It's my best friend. Yeah. OK, a random fact that you've learned from TikTok.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Okay, after this interview, I'm going to get my tape measure, and we're going to do the entire thing. No, that's actually, I've heard that too, I think, and I don't know if I believe it. Okay, a song you've added to your playlist because of TikTok.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
It's hard. It's like it definitely is takes a different level of self-restraint because you don't know the person. And so I guess that's why it's so easy for them to be mean to you because they don't know you. And then you reply back. And I've done it before where I'm like. That was dumb. Why did I give into that?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
And I now don't do it either. Okay. Today is June 1st, the first day of pride month. You've been so open about your sexuality. What are your plans to celebrate pride this year?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
That's so exciting for you that you can fully like lean in this year. Let's go back to the moment you came out, right? Okay. How did you tell your friends and family?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
like 17 years old I'm like seeing like attractive people and I was like my mom is right there like I didn't even think about that of like when you're single and you kind of get to that age where you're traveling with your family and you're like wait I wish I was with my friends right now because I want to like go to the bars and like exactly exactly but then it's like you're with your mom and you're just like yeah my mom's like do you see anyone attractive and I'm like yeah
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
I love the not so subtle gesture. It's so baller. You're like, here you go, dad. If mom hasn't told you already, let's get into it.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
That's amazing. And was your sister same? Like, did you send her a shirt? You're like, no.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Oh, that's cute. It's almost like to look at each relationship and cater like how you feel and what your relationship with them is and like feel safe in the way that you've always felt safe with like your dad. It's humor. Yeah.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
Was your mom the first person you came out to? Well, I guess not because you had a girlfriend at the time.
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
How did you deal with those like internal feelings of struggling to figure it out for yourself?
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
yeah a lot of them a lot of them but I can't say anything right well I'm gonna bring them back to the hotel room with my mom my dad we're all gonna cozy up together like what the fuck exactly that's such a good point okay I like completely forgot that concept and I can feel that for you okay I need to know this because I actually feel like this tells like a lot about someone yeah are you the type of person that can like sit on the beach or
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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)
that's the feeling that I had with that person okay got it so then it kind of that's amazing to also hear like then it started to all kind of click for you but I love how you also compare it to like that insecurity feeling of like the unknown and like not knowing how to handle that I think everyone can relate to that feeling what is the biggest thing that you've learned about yourself over the past year definitely when I came out I came out as bisexual and I was in a really
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
Yeah. Would you ever talk to your mom, like, about it since –
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
Have you ever looked at it like it's an alter ego?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
at in life like you can be like okay we're feeling good now and then like something like triggers you and reminds you of something they did when you were younger and you're like oh my fucking god actually we're not done with this conversation there's more shit i just remembered and it's like an endless cycle but i agree like yeah it doesn't it can't just be black and white where you forgive or it's like all perfect like there's gonna be conversations that keep having to happen yeah
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
I think also something interesting that you were talking about was like going to all these different schools. Like when we are young, a huge part also of like what forms our personality and our tendencies is like our relationship with our friends and our peers. You going to new schools constantly, like how did you approach a new school?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
But that's kind of fun and tough as a kid. Yeah. You're constantly not having to have this stable foundation around you of like, I went to the same fucking school from like,
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
kindergarten to eighth grade so like we all knew each other's parents and we all knew each other's shit which has its pros and cons but like constantly moving I feel like you can yes reinvent yourself but you also I feel like aren't really seen then no definitely not yeah you're just it's like fragments of you out in the world just like these little whispers of a person who's like barely even formed like my manager Anthony has a tattoo on his arm and it's a tattoo of his childhood home
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
You couldn't even like draw something.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
get around that especially if you become comfortable in it you know well and i feel like what you're sharing too about your life which i appreciate you sharing all this just to pause for a second i feel like i'm being so dark no you're not fun podcast i was lonely as a kid let me just say like this is the shit that i think like when we now like listen to your music it even adds like more context and like
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
in my opinion, like I feel not in a creepy way, but like, I feel closer to you now. Cause I'm like, Oh fuck. Like so many people are like preach. Yes. Same, same, same. Like you talking about your childhood.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
I think that when people are listening to your music, it's, it is kind of helpful to know, like, no wonder you are lonely because like you came from this household environment that you had to become lonely because you constantly were just like
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
surviving alone and like I think that happens a lot of times when there are volatile or abusive situations at home like if there's multiple people getting abused you can't even connect in the moment over it because you're just surviving and then you talking with your mom later on down the line like of course you wish you guys could have bonded over or talked about it when you were that young but you couldn't because you didn't have the tools either of you to be like yeah this is happening sometimes a lot of times it takes getting out to be able to talk about shit and
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
I'm really interested to talk about this high school glow up that you had because I could not relate more to something. I know that you've mentioned in the past you were kind of like insecure and unnoticed. And then going into sophomore year of high school, you had this glow up. Can you talk to me about that time of your life?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
What is the difference between Halsey and Ashley? Like, give us an example.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
I personally have this fragrance and I will say my favorite thing although yes I love my husband thinking I smell good there is nothing better when women or your girlfriends compliment you and every single time I have worn this fragrance my girlfriends are like no what are you wearing give it to me right now that smells so freaking good and Matt is obsessed with it.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
How did having like, because I experienced a similar thing of like overnight going through puberty and being like, no, no, no, no, no. Like the same guy that's like bullying the fucking shit out of me is now like wanting to like take me on a date. Totally. Hold on. Pause, you fucking piece of shit. Like nothing changed except my looks. And yet now you're into me.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
Like how did that impact the way that you like felt about yourself?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
But it's hard because when you go from not experiencing any of it like a lot of your peers are experiencing and then all of a sudden all this validation comes like.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
I remember when that happened to me I felt at first so excited like kind of like you're talking about there's that like excitement of validation but underneath it I think when I was alone I had some like anger because I was like totally what like is it it's so surface level like I've been the same person the whole time but you guys like didn't give me any fucking attention until I had tits and an ass and like that's when you have to start doing the would you have been nice to me before and if the answer is no then bye bye
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
It's really confusing. Yeah. Um, you said once that you thought your sexiness was a superpower, kind of like we're talking about and made it so no one could hurt you and you would enter these rooms. Oh, for sure. Feeling that confidence. Yeah.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
And I think so many people can relate to this. Like, I do think, yes, like women can relate to using that word. part of us that is so sexualized yeah and leaning into it you can feel this like great great energy from it and it's like until it becomes feels gross though until it gets gross and it feels gross pretty fast i feel like yeah
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
And I think like a lot of conversation I always see online, like I know Emily Ratajkowski has like talked a lot about it of like there's this weird fucking thing where, you know, you can use it to an advantage. But then you also have to like have some ability to like navigate for yourself what you're comfortable with and what you're not comfortable with.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
Like when do you think if you have like a memory that you were like, oh, I'm I'm taking it too far. This actually is like I'm not feeling chill about this.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
Have you ever become like a little resentful of the persona that you've created?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
And I think the concept of like being a young person in a situation where there's a power dynamic, like you're just, it's such this like hard situation
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
thing to explain until you're in those situations where you referenced it earlier of like I didn't want to make this person upset and I didn't want it to escalate where it could literally get to the point where it goes like violent so you kind of just like appease the situation and I think that is where it can get really scary and it and you keep just like we just can appease people and like make it be like oh no no everything's fine everything's fine and it's like but then you go home and you feel like gross and shitty with you I had like a really strange situation a couple years ago
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
I realize that some of the daddy gang may not know that your legal name is Ashley and Halsey is a stage name. Yeah. What do the people closest to you call you?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
That's like kind of a mindfuck mentally to be like, no, no, no. I've progressed and grown. But you guys see this persona that like was very there in your minds and it never grew. And I'm like fully grown as a human being. And yet Halsey is just like almost like stuck in time for people, which I think a lot of celebrities or performers have that.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
And everyone decides when they want to grow with their performer or not. It's fucking confusing. How would you describe your relationship to fame?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Halsey, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thanks for having me. I am so happy that we're finally doing this. I feel like I've been waiting to meet you for so long. I know, me too. So thank you for coming.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
It was intense. I'm more just speechless because I don't think I've ever heard someone articulate it so perfectly that I can imagine everyone listening right now is like,
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
maybe like pulling over to the side of the road just like have a have a pause because it's so fucking real of like most of those relationships you go to the very possible end to the point that like you even are at risk of your own life when you go that fucking far down with someone so to leave feels like but what was this all for yeah and it's like it's just gonna keep going yeah it feels like giving up but it's not it's like making you're making like a
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
I'm like, keep going. You're giving us a TED Talk. In one of your poems, you wrote, I won't love a man unless he is angry because of my father.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
How did normalizing anger in these relationships that you were having make you more willing to put up with the things that they were doing?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
You have a great therapist. Who is this therapist? We all need this person. No, it's so fucking true. Like not communicating something to your partner that you're like,
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
something is like festering inside of you and you're watching it all the time being so upset and they have no fucking idea you're upset about it it's like how would they know you're upset if you don't tell them you're upset in one of your new songs panic attack i was listening to it and i was like this is the most relatable thing i've ever fucking heard and so many people when they hear the song and be like
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
yes thank you I am I have I have to been there you talk about struggling essentially to differentiate like am I having this like these panic attack feelings or am I falling in love yeah what is the fucking difference yeah can you talk about from your experience like How those two are kind of similar in the beginning phase of a relationship.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
It's so confusing. And I love that you brought up graveyard because I was like going to reference that. And I'm like, no, but we have like a new and improved version. Yeah. And I feel like those butterfly warning signs are so easily misconstrued in the beginning phase. And I empathize a lot because it's hard until you start to just have your life experiences and go through multiple relationships.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
And it's that, again, us not giving you guys the answer, but knowing like the more you experience, the easier it is to kind of be like, oh, no, no, no. I've felt that way before. And I know how this goes down. Like I need to pump the brakes. But the beginning of relationships can be
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
very hard to discern yeah is this excitement or is this because this person is essentially like love bombing me or whatever the fuck is going on or is it like slightly mentally abusive but i'm seeing it as like he finally is giving me attention oh my god there's a validation also toxic like toxicity in relationships is addictive
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
And I feel like something I had to learn along the way, and everyone has to, like, take their time with it, is, like, you're right. The toxicity is addicting. But there's such a difference between, like, safe and boring or just not the same thing.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
And it can take you a really long time. But understandably, if you're on this fucking roller coaster ride and then you're slowly just like sitting in the little the like the game that you're just like riding around and it's slow. You're like, this isn't fucking fun. I want to be screaming my head off and I want to have my hair all over the place.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
You know what I mean? Keep going back. And it's like, why do we do this to ourselves? Because I was going to ask you about like you have written about these like volatile relationships that you've been in and like.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
You know what I mean? Because I was going to say, like, if you have any advice to maybe someone that's watching this right now, but is like fully in that cycle of whether it's with an abusive partner or a toxic partner and they just can't get out of it. And they're like, but I'll never find something that makes me feel this.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
You know what I mean? I do think like that's so important to have, though, because at the end of the day, like all these people that are famous, it you're famous for like something that you're really good at. Obviously, some people are just famous because they're famous. But like you are so talented and your talent has made you famous, of course.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
promise you if you leave and you get out of it and you heal it's going to get better I want to ask you like as an artist because I feel like a lot of people have these moments where they collaborate with someone they were in a relationship with and you've done that in the past and you have this like very famous song with someone that you have like talked about like not having a good relationship with can you describe the feeling of like having a piece of art tied to a very
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
like hurtful and not like positive experience?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
But with that, like you are just still a human being that likes to sleep and likes to eat and likes to chill with friends. And so I think having those like friends around you must still make you feel like the person from New Jersey just growing up and like had a talent. I think that's helpful to have. When do you feel most like yourself? Like what would you be doing?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
You're not fucking married. I know. It's crazy. It's insane.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
No, I have to tell you everything. It's insane and it still feels weird to say like, I have a husband. I love that. What is happening? You're a fiance. I know. This is exciting. How did the proposal happen? Can you tell me?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
I relate a lot to what you're saying because I was very vocal. Like even when I met Matt, I was like, I don't want to get married. I never want to get married. Like I thought it would threaten my independence. I was I felt the same way. Like, why do we need a piece of paper? And then I just like knew he was the person if I was going to do it.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
And I think that's so beautiful that it was just like something within you is like, I know this is right.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
And that's like, how did you guys meet?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
Yeah, I don't know. We're all just like swooning in here like, whoa, keep going. No, that is like, that's when you know there's something special. Yeah. What if you had to say, what do you love the most about him?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
Like, no, you're not boring. But I know what you're talking about. I think we all have that where we're like, yeah, what was I doing? Like, what what would you say you did that was cringe?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
Dude, that must have been so refreshing because I think when you are met by a healthy person,
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
good partner who we all have our own shit but like someone that's genuinely trying to be like no I really want to make this work and I don't want to fuck you up and I don't want to be fucked up and I want to do this together like you just start to raise your standard for yourself of like how you are going to show up and like you said it's so beautiful like with your child knowing how you care for
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
a whole ass human being and how you show up for your child to see a partner like come into your life and be able to not only like embrace you guys but also add value to the dynamic like that's so fucking refreshing and probably nice for you yeah it also forced me to do everything like really really in the right way you know what i mean like becoming a single mom was like a real grown-up wake-up call for me that was like a moment where i was like i can't just like
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
like people please I guess or like make myself smaller because I was like I can't right so like what's up you know that is like so beautiful to hear and I'm so happy for you in like everything you've shared today I feel like that has like beautifully led you to where you're at now where like you are engaged you are a mother like you are so successful you have this new album coming out which we have to talk about like like I said I was listening to it and like there is a lot in this album
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
and it's called The Great Impersonator. What is the meaning behind the title? What is the meaning behind the title?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
But then at the end of the day, you're like, well, I was fucking young. And, like, I was having, I think, a good time.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
I can only imagine how hard that is. And like I think in different capacities, everyone can find a way to relate to that feeling of like, oh, no, no, no, I don't need this anymore. I'm going to be fine. And then you go back to not being fine and you're like,
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
this is so emotionally heavy to deal with but i do think that it's incredible that you have been open as much as you want to be about that because i do again believe it helps other people realize like someone that is as successful as you also is just not living this perfect fairy tale life and everything's fucking fine like everything you're writing about in this album is so fucking real like
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
by being dying right I was gonna say like like but again going back to everything you've shared today like you're used to being the one that's taking care of and fixing everyone so like to ask for help must feel just so unnatural to you yeah but like you need help from people you need support you need people to be there for you but it's hard to ask when you're someone that is not used to asking yeah a big thing for me was like a lot of my relationships I felt like
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
Oh, yeah. It would have been worse, actually. I was going to say, if you went to Rutgers, you would have been face up on a keg stand. You would have had pictures of you on the keg stand. It would have been similar, if not worse. I know. How do you choose what to keep private and what to put into your art and your music?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
Do you have a relationship with your father? Does he know this is gonna be on the album?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
I can imagine that was very confusing for both of you. Like also you coming in being like, I don't know what the fuck to do either. And when you do look back, what is your earliest childhood memory that comes to mind?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
But I also think it's, like, the rite of passage, like, when you become a parent. You're like, give me at least, like, 10 years of calling me, like, mom and mommy.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
But don't you feel like even hearing you say that when you're like, I was always in the way, I'm like, yeah, but I feel like that's what kids are supposed to do. Totally. And like, I imagine you though, like under those circumstances of your parents constantly having to move, you were like hyper aware of just like, stay over here. Like, don't do anything. Don't like get in the way.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
Like I'm not that in Do you remember like what you felt about when you would like view your parents like romantic relationship?
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
Is it weird if anyone in your life would, like, refer to you as Halsey? Yeah.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
Yeah. You're like, oh, that is why I went for this. And it seems so simple, but it's, like, not also. Yeah. Because you don't catch yourself immediately doing it. And then when it's, like, a pattern, then you're like, whoa.
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
is this a whole other thing right I'm this is a whole other thing is it all just my childhood again no it's like no literally it's like whack-a-mole because you're like oh maybe it's not like physical this time but it's like emotional this time but it's all under the same fucking umbrella totally first of all thank you for sharing that because I feel like you're someone that like you're when you write in your songs like it's so fucking powerful and I think a lot of people connect to you on how real you are in your lyrics especially this new album coming out when I was listening to it I was like
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Halsey: Power Dynamics & Toxic Relationships (FBF)
I need I feel like I need to pull over like this is this is like it's very heavy and emotional yeah and I feel for you but I think a lot of people can sadly relate to what you're going through when you were in those moments with your parents and it was volatile like were you someone that would just like be alone and not tell anyone how would you like yeah basically get through it
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
That's why like the Internet is I hate it and love it because you're so like I remember when I was younger, like YouTube, I would find like anything that you were going through. If you were alone, you could find someone somewhere on the Internet on YouTube.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Yeah. Yeah. And so there's like a saving grace, obviously, of you saying like, I didn't know anyone trans. I was by myself going through it. And I know you've been open, like your family was very supportive of you. But still, even when like your parents are like, we got you. It's like, okay, mom, dad, like, love you. But like, I need people my own fucking age to relate to and to connect to.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Totally. So I appreciate you sharing that. I know you've also been...
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
really open in your gender journey from a very young age that like you said at one point you felt very boxed in and labeled and that everything became about being trans and you just wanted to be seen as a person yeah which I can imagine it's like in every single interview you're like I'm an artist but so many people want to also talk to you about being trans where are you now in your career and your journey of being
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
having your own identity and accepting yourself, but also like putting boundaries of like, we don't need to talk about every fucking thing every single time.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Yeah. No, I love it. No, it's so true because it's like when you break it down, it's like just let everyone do whatever the fuck they want to do. Yeah. And it's stop trying to just talk about people in one specific way. No one would be happy if the roles were reversed and you're just saying one thing about someone. We're all very multifaceted. Totally.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
what's what's in my mind what what you know what my music is about what i stand for rather than you know all the just talking about being trans all the time completely totally i think your accomplishments i mean we could go through them all but they speak for themselves like you you've really popped off in an unbelievable way you've had such an incredible career already
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
It's cool. Dude, that is so crazy to think about going on stage and accepting a Grammy and just being like, I hope I can get my words out. I hope I say one thing that like, did you have a full speech planned or no?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
What a full circle moment that one of your biggest idols, Madonna, introduced your performance at the Grammys. What is it about Madonna that inspires you?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
picturing you trying to like give her the nod and you're like i wish i could what do i do to like do a kick like the whole cage falls over you're like picturing you like fully tied up just being like do i wink do i think i know oh my god yeah no i so agree with
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
everything you're saying about Madonna it's it's so crazy to look back at certain eras where we were so young and watching like every generation has it where there's certain people that just become essentially the people that are breaking down barriers in and in that generation I know so many people were like Madonna's crazy like she should be taken off air like she shouldn't be able to do this and yet what people didn't understand is she was having such a needed conversation and allowed the next generation of performers to
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
to lean even further into it because she did what she did. And it's so cool that you now can be on fucking stage trying to give her a wing or whatever.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
thank you so much for saying that because i would have just talked her fucking ears off for hours she's like sweetie let's just pose so you can catch a breath i know i know i'm she must think i'm insane no no i bet she gets that all the time and also it's just it's it's so genuine that's also just so iconic though for you to be like hammered at a party being like madonna like i love you we love you madonna
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
i love you so much okay kim we're gonna play a game let's play this game we're gonna play would you rather okay some of these are really fucking random so don't judge me okay i love it okay would you rather accidentally post a nude on your instagram or butt dial your parents during sex
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
and for you after when you relive definitely because also how bad to find out that you butt dialed them but you figure out after you're replaying like what was i saying during sex like how nasty was that sex like what was i doing like what are the noises like just my dad couldn't see the same my mom couldn't see yeah the whole thing yeah um okay great so rather post a nude love that i agree would you rather go a month without sex or a month without music
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
with me that's actually great because I can't have them right and you can like re-listen to your music all the time in like a not stalkery way that you're like not over texting the person you're just re-listening to your music I'm not like re-watching their stories I just listen to the song I wrote about them a million times I think that's a great great answer I know you love horror movies and I know you love Halloween so would you rather never be able to watch a scary movie again or never be able to dress up for Halloween
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
yes okay that's fair i like that would you rather fuck someone who is absolutely silent or someone who screams the whole time someone who screams the whole time at least i know that they're into it you know like but silence would just throw me off right like at least you know they're there yeah totally it would just make me feel like
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
And that would be, that would really be, I've had like some hookups where the guy is so quiet and I'm like, I just need like a couple grunts. Like, I know me too. Like a light fuck, like, Oh fuck. I know.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
oh you suck it back up before it leaks in that case extra lube anything free lube chunky lube oh my god okay i want a chunky lube t-shirt chunky lube t-shirt they're like what does that mean on the back throw up that's my brand i'm gonna make so good so good would you rather have drunk sex or high sex High sex. Me too. So much better. So good.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Would you rather be in the Mile High Club or fuck in someone's car? Someone's car.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Yeah. It's not sexy. And like, I think maybe the allure could be like, oh, you have to be quiet and hide it. I don't really want to have to do that. I'd rather be in the car just like using the seatbelt, like choke me out. Let's go. Let's have a good time. Like, let's get weird. Yeah.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
I can't believe this. That's so interesting. I feel like now having sat down with people in the music industry, like we were talking about Anita. Yes, the best. The best. Shout out. We love you, Anita. Shout out. But Anita also kind of talked to me about that of like, she's actually really shy. And then like she has this alter ego that she infuses into her music.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Yeah. And they can move to what's happening. It gets a little like, yeah, it gets a little foggy. There's a lot of good things. Titanic. Exactly. Let's talk about your dating life. You said, you know, you're in a, you're in a little dry spell and we love that. So you're not dating anyone.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
I was going to say, yeah, like what is dating life like now as a pop star compared to like maybe a couple years ago where you still had like a little amenity?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
say that you want me now right or i don't have time for you you know my clog just slipped the full clog it felt like it was 500 pounds we just hit the floor oh you're like i don't have time for you boom yeah oh that's interesting so like does that make you sad a little bit that you think like do you have do you think people are seeing a persona of yours and then you have to like deconstruct it and be like i'm not really always like that
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
And it's just the way that she's able to like put her, I guess, side like personality that she wants to be into Anita the character. Yeah.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
She's so cool. She's the best. You have a commonality to talk about. Yeah. So you're not like, how's your dream? Yeah. You could be like, Rebecca's a bitch, right?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Yeah. I think that's so relatable, Kim. And like, I also love how you were like, oh my God, I should have gotten out earlier, but I'm so happy I did get out. I think so many times we're so hard on ourselves because when you're so deep in something, it's really hard to actually make the jump to envision life differently.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Even if it's toxic without that person because you've been living in it for so long. You have your routines. That still is the person that you're with all the time. And like you just become so attached to something that you almost forget like what life was like before them. And a lot of times it was so much better. Totally. It's hard, but it's hard to get out. It's really hard, but it's like.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Are we what are we doing, Kim? Are we fucking on the first date? Are we waiting? Like, do you have any rules in your head or do you just do whatever the fuck comes to you?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
um but i feel like when you when you really give it time it just makes it more special and cooler i love how you're i love kim's out here breaking everyone's hearts like give them the best sex after day one and then you literally just ghosting everyone you're like nah you're like i was happy that was great but i'm over it on to the next yeah well i'm just like in the next city right right you're gone you're gone yeah oh my god that's actually that's i've never heard someone say that you
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
You get, you're over it once you have sex the first time and you're just like, oh, that's boring. Okay, I love that.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
um legolas and lord of the rings like kim that wig no kim let me tell you something three three of the people that i like i'm like what's wrong with me number one johnny depp specifically as captain jack sparrow
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
you know i love how you're like i can't cook but i just want a fucking grammy bitch that's right it's okay kim it's okay i think we would all take that over being able to cook You also were recently on the cover of Sports Illustrated, Swimsuit. Growing up, did you ever picture yourself being on the cover of a magazine? Um, no.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
yes okay number two legolas orlando bloom specifically as the elf in lord of the ranks hot the the hair and the ears and then edward cullen as vampire but i'm like wait what are we like weirdos that were like specifically as an elf yeah no specifically as an elf
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
His name is Orlando Bloom, and I bet Orlando Bloom never thought, like, of all the roles that I've ever played, everyone in the world's, like, the hottest version of you. The hot elf, baby. Hot elf. Legolas. No, I'm not kidding. Actually, I feel like if you don't have the context, like, if you just Google him, you may all be like, you guys are freaks. Watch the movie.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Because the context is important. He's just so, like, I don't even remember. He's just great. His vibe is great. His vibe is so good. He's hot, but he looks amazing.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
I have to be honest. I really never thought that I would sit across from someone in my entire career and have someone say the same thing that I think of. Legolas, Elf, Orlando Bloom. I'm like, what the fuck? And that's why we're on Hinge.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Let's go to slut pop. Okay. You've been mentioning it, but now we got to talk about it. You coined the term slut pop to describe your music. Can you define slut pop for those who may becoming fans today?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
dude i'm thinking about how you kind of said like people after slut pop like people were kind of intimidated by you because it's like you're coming in here being like i am the throat goat like i like and all this when did you actually start to just become really confident about talking about sex
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
So... I love also that... I had actually... Someone recently asked me... This reporter was like... I... Back in the day of Call Her Daddy... Came up with this thing called... The Gluck Gluck 9000. And it was just like... You know... My go-to blowjob move... And I remember this reporter being like, you know, it's so good. It's so good.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
And I remember the reporter being like, you know, if you're a feminist, like, then like, are you ashamed that you coined that term and that you were teaching young girls how to give blowjobs? And I was like, absolutely not. Because of course there are certain things in the past that I was like, probably way too appeasing of a man.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
But specifically with that, it's like, I just go to say like, I love pleasing my partner. Like that doesn't mean you can't be a feminist if you're like, I also love giving my fiance head and like making him feel good. That's part of sex. And that gets me off by also making sure my partner is having a good fucking time.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
So it's like we need to talk about the throat goat because as much as we're like girls enjoy sex, it's also like you can also be down and pleasing your partner is also a part of enjoying sex. It's not just a one-off situation where you're just like by yourself. Well, you can do it by yourself. But when you're with a partner, can you talk about the throat goat?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Can you talk about – give us some tips. Give us a couple little – you know, Kim, just give us like one little thing, maybe like a little – What are we doing? I pull out the bottle and I'm like, Anita, no. That was iconic. What did she do? She was like, you do this. And then she said, wear the Invisalign on your bottom.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
I want to try that. I know. I'm calling my dentist and I'm like, I just need a bottom Invisalign. They're like, bitch, your teeth are fine. I'm like, no, just the bottom.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
no I love it and I think it's again I just like that we're talking about it because it doesn't there's nothing wrong with enjoying and pleasing your partner no and I think sometimes to all you know the people out there it's like if you are intimidated by it you have to just reframe the way that you're thinking about it it's supposed to be fun you're supposed to it's playful it's enjoyable yeah and if you if you don't enjoy it that's fine too you know totally find the things that you really love me I love
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
giving giving head you know and i call myself the throat coat and have been called that oh like and that wasn't coined just by myself thank you goodbye would you say you're more dominant or submissive in the bedroom
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Kim Petras, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Yay, hi, thanks for having me. I am so happy you came in your sparkle clogs. Hell yeah. You showed up. I had to bust them out.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
yeah okay good okay good yeah but i think in general just like make me feel like you really want me bad and need me you know like that's the hottest thing you can do okay on a just quickly on a little bit more serious note um are you like oh girl don't go there out of nowhere yeah just out of nowhere back in in a car it's awesome
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
this is like a little too aggressive of a transition i just realized but no i love it okay Obviously, everything that's going on with trans rights right now in America, I just felt like it wouldn't be right if I didn't ask you. Obviously, it's disgusting what's happening and we're clearly regressing. How are you handling the hateful backlash for, you know, with the trans community?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
you know making me feel so good about myself that it like all just like happened like they really make me feel like i belong on the cover and it makes me want to cry because like i i'm such a person who just like doesn't think of themselves as like you know all that when you say that when you were younger that you're like people never saw me as like sexy and cute when do you think you started to actually for yourself did you always feel sexy and cute you're like fuck you guys like i'm sexy and cute or did it come at a certain point
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Amen. Amen. Amen. Let everyone live however they want to fucking live. No, it's so annoying. It's just so crazy. Like the progress we've made in some areas that we're still having these conversations and it's so infuriating.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
our bodies are still being policed by people and it's it's truly insane but i do think it's we are so fortunate that we can sit here and you can use your music and i can use this show as a platform to just like keep talking about it totally i hope
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
anyone that it makes uncomfortable look inward as to why and like start doing the work and i think everyone that is supporting like keep supporting and be vocal and post on social media and because i think it's so important that we just keep showing we aren't going anywhere and and everyone should just be able to do whatever the fuck they want and we need to get on board with that i know it's really not that hard it really only is hard to people who
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
We're snipping you all, okay? They're like, oh, no, no, no. Okay, do whatever you want. Do whatever you want. You take away their nut, they're like, oh, no. Yeah, literally. Do whatever you want. Never mind.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Oh, my God. Okay, you have a new album coming out. Yes. And I'm so excited for you. The album is called Feed the Beast. Yes. How did you come up with that?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Kim how is this album different than past work that you've done?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
I am so excited. Where is the perfect place to listen to this album? Like, are we doing it at the club? Are we working out? Are we having sex? Are we on the beach? What's the vibe? In a car getting fucked.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
um yeah they're comfortable like i would say like like pool slide vibes pool slide just a little heavier but you're not going to like run in those no even though i probably could and should i just have to say i'm so happy for you you are everywhere right now in the best way your music your personality like everything you're doing is just fucking incredible And I'm so excited for you.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
It's going to be good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to see the outfits. Yes. I am so happy I got to sit down with you today. Me too. I've been wanting to do this for so long and you are like... I listen to you all the time, so it's been an honor to be here. Thank you. No, like you truly have such an energy about you that you're so...
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
calm and a vibe and like thanks but you're like everything it's just so fun to be able to like sit with you and actually get to know your personality because you are so so sweet and funny and amazing and i just i can't wait to see what you do with your career this is amazing thank you so much you're the best thank you daddy
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
I totally get what you're saying sometimes I actually think it's way better to feel like you're a little outside because then you're also just going based off of your own parameters of like half the time we're just trying to be like other people that's so fucking boring like I don't want to be like anyone else but I also think I appreciate you saying like I'm still working on it no
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
one even you can look at kim online like she's got it all together she's winning grammys she's hanging out with celebrities it's like but we're all still working on ourselves in some capacity till the day it's over so it's like for sure you have to you have to we and you're from germany right i'm from germany yeah can you tell me in german how to say welcome to call her daddy
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Right? It's scary. That is scary. But Kim, I do kind of feel like you made it kind of sexy. Like, I think you have a little, you know, you got something. Dankeschön. Oh, okay. I'm going to learn how to say all that by the end of this. Okay, so you talk about How you started your career in gay clubs all around the country. Yeah.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Clearly that was such a huge part of your coming up and in this industry. How did people in the clubs initially treat you? And like, how did they like you and your personality and your vibe and your music? I think.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
That's literally all you could ask for. You want all the gays being like, fuck yes, this is the bop. Totally. Oh, wow. Did that ever kind of affect you in your musical decisions? Did you ever find yourself being like, should I go a little bit more one way?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
You won a Grammy high, like no big fucking deal. How did it feel to win a Grammy and how did you celebrate?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Do you remember any like early fun stories for us of like memories from performing in these clubs that have stuck with you of like just iconic moments for yourself in your career?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
That must be. Yeah, that's pretty out there. That's pretty good.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
so fucking cool to just be like that's also how your career started of like basically you're just having fun partying and you're singing and everyone loves your music and you're just like thriving but I wonder do you ever yeah I was gonna say do you miss that because then you're like standing on stage and it's a little bit more formal yeah there's some more choreograph I go I do miss it a little bit I miss mostly going to uh to clubs undetected I can go to straight clubs now
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
I am actually interested to growing up in Germany. Like what is the difference between nightclubs in Germany versus nightclubs in America?
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Right. I always, when I was younger, was, like, I was liking going out late. But now as I get older, I'm like, why can't we start at 5 o'clock? Yeah. I know. Start raging and go to bed by midnight. And like I do the same shit. We can drink the same like we can do all the same shit.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
Like completely. Yeah. Because in your next like 48 hours, you're just not a human being functioning in the world.
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
yeah and I can't afford to do that with this career yeah totally you can't and me neither like we have to like do shit now yeah exactly yeah so American clubs just because it's a little bit more responsible in terms of our timing yeah if we're trying to have a good time let's go to Germany definitely I think people in general just like go a little more crazy there got it what is your favorite song of yours to hear played in a club
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
I love that answer so much. And we're going to talk about Slut Pop in a little bit. It's truly iconic and it's called Our Daddy. something very cool about your career is the fact that you are self-made you have been doing this since you were super young you were teaching yourself how to write and how to produce in your bedroom where do you think that drive came from honestly from
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Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
inspiring to hear you talk obviously about like there's a lot of people that can probably relate to you of like being really isolated when you're younger not feeling like you're fitting in and just like trying to find an escape which you clearly found the best escape for yourself and it worked out what would you say to your younger self that like kim sitting in her room alone just being like kind of isolated and getting picked on live a little
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I mean, I think I could ask every single woman in this room, like, what's been said about your boss? Probably similar stuff. If you think about any media company, I remember at Barstool, everyone was like, how do you work for Dave Portnoy? I'm like, should I go over to, like... And then I named all the media companies. Everyone was like, oh, you kind of have a point. Like, it's everywhere.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
It's not Dave Portnoy. So I think, if anything, it's like, of course that's what's being said about him and many men.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I mean, listen, I think a partnership is always going to be very difficult. I think anyone in this room that has a partner, even in life, like it could be romantic, it can be business, like that is a very hard dynamic because you are two complete different people trying to come to one agreement. And when I started Call Her Daddy, yes, I had a co-host. And we were from very different backgrounds.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
We wanted very different things. Like I was the crazy maniac being like, I've wanted this my entire life. I have never been more passionate about something. I'm going to drive myself through a wall until I get what I want. And I think we just had very different backgrounds. ideas of what success in our life looked like. I am a mother f***er. I am never going to stop.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I am going to be doing this till the end and then some. And we just did not align on what we wanted to do with our careers. And I think that's fine.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
Well, I think what I've built is a lifestyle and a community of people, right? Like at first it started as an IP that had a catalog and it was many episodes of me talking about my life. And then I started interviewing people and now I have a catalog that is obviously worth a lot of money.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I consider myself Alex Cooper. I don't care if people consider me a journalist or a podcaster or just a girl that talks online every week. I know what I'm doing is changing a lot of lives. And I know a lot of women specifically have been extremely impacted by the conversations I'm having.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
But aside from a catalog of just content, what the content has built is a community of primarily women who show up every week and want to be seen and heard and want to engage with the content. And from there, I thought to myself, how can I build past just a show if I do have this community that wants more? And I started the Unwell Network, which is now my company with my husband.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
And we have expanded where I'm now signing younger Gen Z creators to uplift their voices. And I'm very particular about who I choose that will work at this company. But I'm basically curating more and more creators so that when someone goes to my network, they know who I am and they like my content.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
And so they trust me to essentially create a palette for them of like, what else do you want to listen to? Here you go. There's five other shows. On top of that, because of the community aspect, I wanted to launch live events. I think a lot of people think that Gen Z wants to sit behind their phones and they don't want to go to live events. completely wrong. They want to be in person.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
They want to experience things. And so this past year and a half, I've launched two live tours that sold out in seven cities. And we've done live events. I did an event with the Red Sox where I showed up and we did an activation. We had more unwell jerseys on women than Red Sox jerseys. Love you, Red Sox. And the GM said it was the highest grossing night of the year, aside from Pride.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
And it was on a random Wednesday against the worst team in the league. So it was a pretty big success. So it's live events. We have touring now. We have television shows. We have movies. We have podcasting. And I never sleep.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I mean, I think I will always be talking because I literally can't shut up, but I love talking. I'm always going to be sitting in front of camera in some capacity, whether it's a podcast or it's a show on a streaming service. It can go either way. It's a talk show. I'm sitting, I'm talking to people. I love what I do.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
So if you want to put me in the box of a journalist who just interviewed the vice president of the United States, sure, put me there.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
When it comes to the creators that I am signing, of course, I'm always like, there's the singles, there's the doubles, and then there's the home runs and the triples, right? And of course, I wish every single creator would be a triple. But I also think there's something beautiful about finding a creator where I was at when Dave Portnoy found me.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I was a really ambitious kid that wanted to work hard and had a vision. And I think a lot of the people that I've started to work with, I see so much potential in them. And I'm there to just help them in any way I can mentor them because I've been through a lot. But I don't think it's, I want to be the face of this. It's not an ego thing. I just, I'm pretty good at what I'm doing.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
So I'm just leading the charge a little bit here.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I love television. Yes. I have so many meetings. I would say every other week with writers for scripted and unscripted. I'm very interested in the television space. And I think it's something that my audience yet again, like all I ever think about is my audience. Do they like to watch TV? Yes. Do they like podcasts? Yes. Do they like to go to concerts? Yes. Do they like live events? Yes.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
Do they like merchandise? Yes. And so I'm constantly going into the avenues where I think I can explore for my audience.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
Oh, that's hard. Um, I've been having a lot of conversations recently because people have come up to me asking like, why you and not, you know, like a news reporter. And what's challenging is when I was growing up with my parents, I would sit in our family room and I would watch the news with my parents and I trusted the people and what they were saying. And unfortunately, yes, you're right.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
That has shifted. And I think there has been a wave of skepticism within the gens. I'm just speaking for Gen Z and millennials, honestly. Like, I think a lot of us feel like we're getting sold a crock of every week because when someone is knocking at you every day, like, believe this, believe this, believe this. And it's the only thing you're constantly talking about.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
People don't want to be told what to do anymore. I think Gen Z, the minds of young creators and adults and young individuals, people want to figure it out for themselves. They don't want to be told what to do. And I think creators like me, I'm not having on a politician every week. So when I do, it's like,
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
oh, shit, we better listen to this because they know I'm going to come at it from a perspective of I don't really have an agenda. So I think my advice would be finding a way when you are creating or whether you are selling or in business, finding a way to find any form of humanity that is not so perfectly lined up that it feels like, I'm getting sold a fucking ad. Like, come on.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
Like, this is bullshit. It has to feel somewhat more organic. And I know that's challenging, but maybe you should give those young interns more of a voice. And maybe you should listen to them when they have some ideas.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
So I grew up and my father was a sports television producer. So I was like in a television truck my whole life. And I was like, I want to be a director. I want to be a producer. I want to be in media in some capacity. I was making little short form movies my whole life. And then I played division one soccer in college. And so I had this obsession with working hard and creating films and
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
and content. And when I graduated, I got fired from my sales job and it was the absolute best thing that ever happened to me. And I was like, what am I going to do? I'm on unemployment checks. And I decided, okay, there's clearly a huge hole in the market. There's Howard Stern and then there's no one for women where women can actually feel like, oh, that is what I talk about with my friends.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
when I'm behind closed doors. And we don't feel comfortable speaking about certain things in public because as women, we are at a disadvantage. Sorry, boys in the room, if you disagree, but it's the truth. So I started on episode one just talking about my life and my sexual experiences, yes, but also it progressed to talking about my relationships and my friendships.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
But yes, it was very sex heavy and I was proud of it. I know it was salacious and I know it was out there, but I also am like a marketer at heart. And I was like, this is going to get everyone talking. And then eventually I shifted the narrative, but I think it worked.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
Oh, I knew it worked when we published episode one. When episode one went up, the virality of the first three episodes was lightning in a bottle. I worked with Dave Portnoy at Barstool Sports and he was like, I've never seen something in my entire career. Because again, it was just filling a hole in the market and that's half of the reason why I did it.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
You can never speak your mind too often on social media. I think when you think it's a little too much, go even farther. I think Dave, as crazy as he seems maybe, he's really, really smart with what he's doing. He knows exactly the type of audience that he's garnered, and people hang on to every single word he's saying. And so I think working with someone like that just...
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
made me recognize that what I was doing, I could keep pushing it further and further, and there was kind of no limit.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
Oh, every week. I was like, ooh, is that a little too much? And then I was like, upload, but it kept working.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I think it's good and bad. I think when you look at social media right now, there's a lot of people that you can say, oh my God, they shouldn't have a platform, whether they're spreading misinformation or it's racist or whatever it is where you're like, why the hell is that person given a platform?
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
But I also think then there's the other side with what I've done with Call Her Daddy is I am having conversations that have not been to the degree publicly talked about in a capacity in a positive manner, right? Like mental health, we all now know like mental health, mental, no, no, no.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I'm sitting down with women who are talking about their lived experiences in such detail in moments where people are like, holy shit, I don't want to hear about this. This is, well, no, this is what's happening.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
in real life so listen and understand what's going on and I think it's if anything move the conversation forward to finally we're having more authenticity and it's not just this like perfect facade but you pivoted away dare I say from the sexting stuff yeah right like on purpose no I was like I literally have nothing more to give like I've said it all I've given you all my tips now what else is there to do it wasn't on purpose I literally like I put it out all on the table I was ready to move on um
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
You don't feel safe? No. Do you feel safe right now with me? I don't know. You're the one in the position. No, listen, I think that a lot of people, everyone is always fascinated. Like, how do you get this out of people? Like, why are they telling you things that they've never said in media after 20 years? I think it's because I was raised by a therapist, and my entire life, all I did was this.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
It was like, sit down, let's talk about your feelings. And I think that's very taboo for a lot of people. It's like, don't talk about how you feel. If anything, don't acknowledge it ever and just keep it moving. And when I sit down with people, from the minute I open the door at my studio, I am so intentional about the way that I am speaking to someone.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I am giving them all of my attention and I'm actually listening to what they're saying because I genuinely care because I know the community that I have built cares. Every single thing I do is for my audience. I live and breathe it. My husband is always like, We are in a relationship together, plus a third, which is the daddy gang. Like, all I do is for my audience.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
And so, yes, I think when a celebrity sits down, they're like, oh, shit, you actually care. Like, this is kind of refreshing. You're not like, all right, next question. Like...
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
Yeah, I think it's so healthy, first of all. No. I consider myself Alex Cooper. I don't care if people consider me a journalist or a podcaster or just a girl that talks online every week. I know what I'm doing is changing a lot of lives, and I know a lot of women specifically have been extremely impacted by the conversations I'm having.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
So if you want to put me in the box of a journalist who just interviewed the vice president of the United States, sure, put me there. But I'm fine with podcaster, too.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
Yeah, they reached out. Both sides reached out.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
We had a Zoom call with Trump's team.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I wasn't on it. I was like, let me know how that goes. I wasn't on it. But they reached out. And I think the interesting thought for me was what I have built, I'm the very competitive person. Back to my athlete nature days, I'm like, how do we keep ramping this shit up? And although I didn't want to technically get into politics,
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I did recognize there was a larger conversation that was directly impacting my audience, right? Joe Rogan has a conversation. He knows his audience. I know my audience. And it's a bunch of women looking for someone to advocate for them every single day. And I understand people are like, oh, God, like, you're going to focus the whole time on abortion? Yeah, I am. Because it's not about abortion.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
It's about women's right to their bodies. So I thought... Why not have on someone that could potentially have a huge impact on our country? And so I did it.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I thought it was fascinating. It was the fastest interview I've ever done in my life. I was like, oh my God, I have 50 minutes. It was like 45 to 50 minutes with the vice president. And I like to get comfortable. Like I'm in it for two hours, usually just like lubing the person up, like hanging out, like we're getting cozy. Okay. And with the VP, I was like, there was a clock on.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
So that was a little uncomfortable to me that I was on someone else's terms. But overall, I thought it was a very incredible conversation. And the amount of,
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
of research and time i put into this interview was probably the most i've ever done in my career because i had i had fracking conversations written down i'm like oh we could go into this and this but i at the end of the day ultimately decided i just wanted to focus on women's rights and i know some people were like why didn't you ask her about the border go watch cnn like i don't know like i'm i'm going to talk about what's helpful to my audience
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
Yeah, not in a hotel. It was like a random house.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
My studio that is gorgeous in Los Angeles doesn't even cost six figures, so I don't know how cardboard walls could cost six figures, but... But do you think they did that?
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
Absolutely not. With love to them. Oh, my God, it was gorgeous, but, like, it wasn't that nice. It wasn't, like, gorgeous marble. Like, no, that was not six figures.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I'm not the vice president of the United States. Maybe one day. No, just kidding. I don't know. I think that's up to her. I think like, listen, I think we had a great conversation. I think she could have hung with him. But I think at the end of the day, they clearly had a campaign strategy that I wasn't in these meetings and I just did my job.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I don't think of Joe when I'm having my morning coffee every morning, but I'm very aware of the comparison in the media. Every single article probably that's ever been written about me, Joe Rogan is in the same sentence, which great. I mean, he's one of the biggest creators in the world. I've never met him. We had like a little like family tie when we were at Spotify together.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
And I have a lot of respect for what he's doing.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I just am like... I was going to say something saying like I have a vagina, but that was going to be inappropriate. So let's rewind. I am a woman like I don't need to keep being compared to these men. I'm like, I'm Alex Cooper. I'm going to be Alex Cooper all day. And if I happen to sit next to Joe Rogan or Howard Stern, put me in the middle. But I'm not trying to be the next Howard Stern.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I think Howard Stern is so talented. What he has built is incredible. And I think what I have built is also incredible.
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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand
I was laughing at like, why did I just say that? This is, this is the thing I think about all day. I'm like, well, why did I just say that on the stage? But it's okay.
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Rachael Kirkael: Wednesday, January 29th, 2025
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