Welcome to the first episode of the CHD Summer Series. This week, Father Cooper sits down with Olivia Ponton. Alex and Olivia discuss their personal experience with long distance relationships…are they ever a good idea? Is it possible to live in the present while being in a long distance relationship? Summer has officially arrived and Pride Month has begun! Olivia reflects back on her first year of openly being a part of the LGBTQ+ community and shares what she has learned about herself along the way. The girls discuss their plans for summer, social media boundaries and Olivia dishes on a sky diving first date gone horribly wrong. Enjoy!
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Olivia. Hi. Welcome to Call Her Daddy. It's an honor to be here. So, it's summer. It's June 1st. Yes, ma'am. But you grew up in Florida. Yes. So, was it summer, like, all the time vibe for you?
Like, I don't know. When I moved to Los Angeles, it was even weird. Like, I don't know. it getting cold that night. I'm like, what is this? Like I never, fun fact, I never owned like a sweatsuit until I moved to Los Angeles. Like I never owned sweatpants growing up. Like what was it? Where was I going to wear sweatpants to?
Okay. So did you, cause I'm thinking like this is basically kicking off like the summer vibe for call her daddy. Did you and your family, like what was your summer situation? Did you take trips and vacations during summer? Yeah.
Like my family's like huge on travel. So like each summer we would go to like a different country. So I'm like very well diverse in the traveling. That's like why I love traveling so much. My last summer at home, we literally did like a European summer trip. It was a little weird, like traveling with my family. It's like, we went to like all these crazy places, but I was like with my parents.
I was like, awesome.
like 17 years old I'm like seeing like attractive people and I was like my mom is right there like I didn't even think about that of like when you're single and you kind of get to that age where you're traveling with your family and you're like wait I wish I was with my friends right now because I want to like go to the bars and like exactly exactly but then it's like you're with your mom and you're just like yeah my mom's like do you see anyone attractive and I'm like yeah
yeah a lot of them a lot of them but I can't say anything right well I'm gonna bring them back to the hotel room with my mom my dad we're all gonna cozy up together like what the fuck exactly that's such a good point okay I like completely forgot that concept and I can feel that for you okay I need to know this because I actually feel like this tells like a lot about someone yeah are you the type of person that can like sit on the beach or
with a book and relax and tan and knock it up are you the person that's like guys come play paddle ball let's go in the ocean i feel like i'm like the second option like i'm always like can we go do something like there's definitely my days where i'm like okay let's literally go sit on the beach that's i don't want to talk to anyone my phone's like they're on airplane mode all day but then there's other times i'm like i literally cannot sit still i'm like can we and like in florida like everyone has boats so you go boating you go wakeboarding you i water skied for like nine years of my life so it was like
you were constantly doing something on top of like just sitting and reading. Like that's like a California thing. I feel like you're actually so right.
I feel like Florida and California are completely different. And now you lived in both. Which do you prefer?
Ooh. Oh, that's. Oh, wow. I've never actually been asked that question before. I always get, like, New York versus L.A. New York, I mean, L.A. versus Florida. I would say I love Florida, like, as a state, like, the weather-wise, like, and kind of, like, my hometown's stunning. You know, don't really like what's going on with Florida right now. And then here, I mean, I like the people more.
I like how, like, open it is, how, like, I'm able to be who I am and, like, not get judged by anyone. Sure. you were named a sports illustrated swimsuit rookie for the class of 2022 congratulations how does that feel it was absolutely insane like i fell to the ground like crying i was like no i was like this is not real like major imposter syndrome i was like this is not real and then
Two weeks later, I literally went to Montenegro, that's where we shot it, which is a really small place near Albania, and you travel by yourself. It's a full deal, and I'm 19 years old, so I was like, I've traveled by myself, but you know, like New York to LA, you know, like LA to Mexico, like stuff like that, but never like a 14 hour flight.
Like I stopped in Turkey for a little bit, like no idea where I was going. I was like, I could really get lost right now. And you're by yourself. Yeah. Like coming back, I flew back with everyone cause I was the last girl to shoot, but like going there, like,
I can't even imagine going by myself at 19 years old to a foreign country also to prepare for like one of like the biggest moments of your career. It's like fucking huge.
I was like sitting in the airport just like. this is not real. I was like, what am I doing with my life?
Okay. So you show up and I was thinking like, okay, obviously I'm sure there were like so many glamorous moments of shooting this, but we need to hear Olivia, the not so glamorous moments. Like what was an unglamorous moment with you that you were like, oh my God, people would never anticipate. Yeah.
So it's swimsuits, right? So you think you're going and shooting somewhere like warm, right?
no it was like october time so in the place that we were it was like 40 to 50 degrees and you're in like thong bikinis and you're like shooting in the water and it's like freezing and you're just like sitting in there and you're like shaking like i have so many funny photos of me like you know like when you're like in between changing and i'm like in this huge
huge like robe jacket situation and that was definitely like a moment where i was like nobody would ever guess that we're like freezing in all of these photos because when you look at them you're like oh my god like it makes me want to be on a beach yeah but i was like oh no i was freezing like i was like shaking there and like they probably have to like edit out my goosebumps because it's like so bad okay well no one can tell that you were cold in the photos so i have to give you props like your like teeth are chattering and all of a sudden you're like
Yeah, it's like you're... There was the last shot that we did, I got, like, soaking wet, and we were, like, on this ledge kind of situation where, like, water was, like, crashing on it, but it wasn't, like, in the water. It was kind of odd. But I was, like, laying down in it, and... the sun had already set. So there was like not really any sun. It was like very like glistening vibes.
But I kid you not, it was probably like 30 degrees out, maybe 40. And the water was like absolutely freezing. And you're just getting like splashed with water. You're sitting there, you're trying to be like super sexy and like so glamorous. But you're like, I like literally was like sitting there, like trying to like roll around on this like block of cement, like trying to be sexy.
And it was like definitely a moment where I was like, I really hope this comes out well.
Congratulations. I mean, it's so cool to sit with you and like hear the behind the scenes also because it's like such a cool moment. Also, especially because you're 19, Olivia. Is your family like...
so stoked or they my family doesn't really process anything like even the way i moved out i was just kind of like i'm gonna go to los angeles for two weeks and then i'll be back and then i kind of just came here and i never left how many siblings do you have i have one older sister okay blessing love her
So you're like the baby that just left.
Mm-hmm.
Good for you. OK, well, not only are you blowing up in the modeling world, but you've blown up on TikTok. Yes. So we're going to play a little game called TikTok Made Me Do It.
OK.
OK, a trend you've tried because of TikTok.
Emily Mariko's like salmon avocado. Have you not tried it? No. She did like salmon, rice, avocado, and like the seaweed packets. And then you like mix it all together and you like make your own salmon roll.
Okay, so now I need to go try it. Okay, something you've bought because of TikTok. TikTok.
You would think growing up in Florida, I've always been blonde, that I would know what purple shampoo was. And then I got on TikTok and I got on TikTok right when like the purple shampoo thing was a trend. And I was like, what is this stuff? And I went and it changed my life. I was like, so that was definitely something I was like, oh, that is such a good investment.
It's my best friend. Yeah. OK, a random fact that you've learned from TikTok.
This one's weird. I also don't know if it's true. I heard that your wingspan is how tall you are. But I'm 5'9", and I feel like my wingspan's not 5'9".
Okay, after this interview, I'm going to get my tape measure, and we're going to do the entire thing. No, that's actually, I've heard that too, I think, and I don't know if I believe it. Okay, a song you've added to your playlist because of TikTok.
All of my music comes from TikTok, first of all. Recently, I've put this song on repeat every single day for, it's probably like a week and a half now. It's called like 10 Things I Hate About You by Leah Kate. I think she was just on tour with Madison Beer. I think she was like the girl who opened up for her. And that song just went like insanely viral on TikTok.
And I like see it every when and I'm like, okay, let me listen to it. Let me see if it's like the hype.
Chamming in my car every day.
So good. Okay, somewhere you've went because of TikTok.
hawaii hawaii is my favorite place and i feel like italy like i see italy all over my for you page i want to go this summer so badly something you've become self-conscious of because of tiktok okay growing up i was pretty confident i was very independent once i got on tiktok i got very insecure about like my boobs and my body because i would just get like the most just
meanest comments about it and i would just start like overthinking i'd be like wow like i was like loved my body like looking up to like models and whatnot i was like why is everyone so i you know created boundaries and i like turn off my comments for like a solid like i think it was like two-ish months and then eventually i got more like secure with it have you ever responded back to like a troll and then regretted what you said
not to a troll but I actually used to be exactly like that like in high school because I was like independent like I was very much like I'm fighting for myself person so not that I was a bitch but I was like a little kind of like um like why are you talking about me like especially girls in like high school I'd be like I would confront them I'd be like why are you talking like crap about me right now so I feel like almost when I started social media I had to like create like a boundary I'm like okay like you can't respond you know people in my life help me a lot with that because I'll be like
I'm going to do it. I'm going to blow up on them. And they're like, calm down. It's OK. Talk to my therapist. And I'm like, OK.
It's hard. It's like it definitely is takes a different level of self-restraint because you don't know the person. And so I guess that's why it's so easy for them to be mean to you because they don't know you. And then you reply back. And I've done it before where I'm like. That was dumb. Why did I give into that?
Yeah.
And I now don't do it either. Okay. Today is June 1st, the first day of pride month. You've been so open about your sexuality. What are your plans to celebrate pride this year?
I just love pride month so much, but I would say, so last pride month I came out, you know, on June 1st as bisexual. So I feel like kind of pride month last year was like me kind of like figuring out what it was like to be bisexual. Like, Being on social media and being like, wow, people are so accepting.
And, you know, like also dealing with like the not so nice people like in the streets or when you go to the parades, like dealing with like, you know, the mean people and just being like. I feel like this year I'm definitely there's West Hollywood Pride, June 3rd. And then there's obviously New York Pride. I think New York Pride is better personally. So definitely will be then.
That's so exciting for you that you can fully like lean in this year. Let's go back to the moment you came out, right? Okay. How did you tell your friends and family?
I called my mother and there was a lot of moments where I was like, I'm just going to do it. Like spur of a moment. So I was like, I just need to tell her like, it's, it's such a secret and you kind of just hold it in for months and months that you're like, okay, I'm going to do this. My mom was coming to visit me in two weeks and I was kind of lying to her about the relationship I was in.
I was, you know, didn't really know exactly how to be like, hey, mom, I'm in a relationship with a female. And I eventually called her up one day and was just like spit it out and like gave everything. 20 facts about the LGBTQ community and about my relationship. And she just was like, okay, like cool. And I was like, okay, yeah, bye.
And then we like didn't talk for two weeks and then she came and visited me and she was like totally okay with it. And I was like, oh, this is awesome.
Did she tell the rest of your family for you?
I'm assuming, cause I never told my dad. I feel like I kind of came out with my dad by like sending him, I got him a shirt that said my daughter's gay.
and i shipped it to him because it was pride month and i was like oh i feel like i should get my family like some rainbow swag and just bought him like my daughter's gay shirt and he like sent me a picture of him like smiling with him on and i was like okay he knows like he knows like that was kind of like me coming out to him
I love the not so subtle gesture. It's so baller. You're like, here you go, dad. If mom hasn't told you already, let's get into it.
Oh, fully. And then my dad has always been like, love whoever you want. Like, I don't care. And I was like, oh. Cool.
That's amazing. And was your sister same? Like, did you send her a shirt? You're like, no.
No, I called her because this was, like, right when we were getting close again. And I was like, oh, I feel like I should, like, call my sister and be like, hey, by the way, like, you're probably going to see it on social media soon. Right.
and she like screamed she was so excited for me she was like no way i'm so excited for you but i was like oh perfect reaction i was like thank you thank you sister that's why like i appreciate you sharing that just because i know there's probably a lot of people that could be listening that are also going through what you went through a year ago right like they haven't come out yet maybe they don't know how to do it it's so hard like you have to really figure out what works best for you like with my dad like i could i tried telling him probably like
20 times like there would be times where i'd be at home and i'd be like okay go up tell him he's sitting there he's not doing anything just tell him i was like i couldn't do it so i mean my dad had a very like funny relationship like you know it's like a lot of dad jokes so i was like i feel like that's kind of something that's funny that he would look at it and he would laugh but he would be like oh wait okay like okay like this is
Oh, that's cute. It's almost like to look at each relationship and cater like how you feel and what your relationship with them is and like feel safe in the way that you've always felt safe with like your dad. It's humor. Yeah.
And with my mom, it's like we're deeper. So it's just kind of like me just telling her that was like she obviously knew that took a lot for me to say to her. So she was like, OK.
Was your mom the first person you came out to? Well, I guess not because you had a girlfriend at the time.
Yeah, I would say like I always kind of knew and I feel like I had one best friend where we like kind of came out to each other. Cause we were like, I think I am, but like, I'm not sure. And I'd also, I was the type of person that was like, I don't want to come out until I like 1000% know that I am.
Cause there's always like the possibility where it really gets down to it that you're like, Oh, I don't think I could do that. And, um, So I would say them or just kind of like, I mean, my best friend right now, Emma, we like would always have conversations. We'd be like, I think that I am, but I'm not sure. Like I think. And then I met my first girlfriend and I was like, okay, I am.
How did you deal with those like internal feelings of struggling to figure it out for yourself?
Yeah. I was very homophobic towards myself. So even when I was out, I was like, no, I'm not like, I don't know. There was always like the backhand thoughts. It's kind of like being insecure. It's like you're confident with it. But I was also like, is this like is this bad? Like is something bad going to happen? Like this isn't OK.
Like I'd get like random comments and I'd be like really overthinking it. So I would say just kind of like for me, it was like I needed to be in a relationship with a female to be like, OK, I'm 1000 percent in this. I came out and like you know really realized and like so many things made sense like when I was younger I was like oh
that's the feeling that I had with that person okay got it so then it kind of that's amazing to also hear like then it started to all kind of click for you but I love how you also compare it to like that insecurity feeling of like the unknown and like not knowing how to handle that I think everyone can relate to that feeling what is the biggest thing that you've learned about yourself over the past year definitely when I came out I came out as bisexual and I was in a really
long-term relationship. And then I got out of it and was able to experiment with all kinds of people. And I mean, I'm so happy, but I figured out that I was pansexual and I came out with that in the past year. So I feel like that was kind of something, probably the biggest thing that I kind of realized about myself in the past year.
Can you talk about just for anyone that doesn't understand the difference between being bisexual and pansexual? Yeah.
So the difference between it is bisexual is just liking boys and girls or, you know, men and female. And with being pansexual, it's like anyone. And I would say almost with being pan, for me, it's like I care more about the vibe between the two people and like the connection that we have.
And, you know, it's also being open to talking to non-binary people, to be open to talking to transgender people. And I feel like For me, I'm so open to anything. So I feel like that's just kind of when I met someone who was non-binary and I was like, oh.
i really like you i was like okay so it's i feel like it's honestly very similar and i think when people think it's so much more common than people realize and i think it's great when anyone is like speaks up about it because it's not their responsibility to educate us but like it is our responsibility to listen yeah are there any pansexual um celebrities that you admire okay madison bailey she's in outer banks love her
when I found out she's pansexual, I feel like I loved her like 10 times more because I was like, yes. There's Cara Delevingne. Obviously, I think she's absolutely stunning. And I feel like just also like with being pansexual, it's like you really just don't care. Like with I mean, with bisexual, I feel like I don't really care either. But it's like you really don't care.
Like it is purely an emotional relationship when you are with dating someone who is pansexual. You
focused on being, like, a male's ideal woman, and I, like, I achieved it, I was the blonde, long-haired, super glammed out, every single day girl, and, you know, like, I had male's attention 24-7, but I was, like, really came down to it, it was all a validation thing, it was, like, I just wanted them to to call me pretty, so I felt validated.
But it was like, I didn't like them, so I was like, that's kind of my journey with figuring out that I was bisexual, because I was like, oh, you're telling me I'm pretty makes me feel really good, but then I'm like, I don't like kissing you. I don't like doing this. I'm like, mm.
you're raised to be like what so which boy do you like and even aside from the sex like the sex part of it you're more just like oh so i'm supposed to like like a boy and hopefully they like me exactly and it starts with like the hopefully they like me part is really where it gets in like your brain because honestly like i think like we like women are pieces of art and we
deserve for the boys to be like oh dude are they going to like me back not us being like does he like me oh my gosh is he gonna text me back oh my gosh does he want to go on a second date it's like no do like you should be asking yourself that you like him yeah and that's all that matters and i feel like that's almost like a question that i'll like start asking myself more recently it's like i'll notice about myself being like oh like why aren't they texting me back but i'll be like hold on
Do I even like them as a person? I'm like, I'll calm down and I'll be like, put my phone away. I'll like sit in the mirror for like 20 minutes and I'll be like, I'll literally write down all the green flags, all the red flags. And I was like, I'll come to a conclusion. I'll be like, I probably don't like them.
I just crave it. When you're dating. It really is interesting. I feel like I saw a TikTok on this recently of someone being like, you're constantly looking at the person that you're on a first date, second date with, and you're hoping that they're going to like you. And it's like, you leave that first date. Did you like them? Yeah. Did you like their personality?
And so many people forget that, that you need to like go home and be like, are they the type of person that I want to spend the next... Years with just like the validation.
Exactly.
And I feel like that's something that I struggle like till this day. I'll be like, oh my gosh, like I liked them so much. Kind of. Do they like me back? And then I'll sit there and I'll be like, I'll talk about it with my mom because we talk all of the time and I'll be like, yeah, I'm kind of like how they made me feel, but I'm kind of just craving the validation right now.
So I'm like, I need to cut things off and just stop this here.
And I think that's very relatable. Yeah. OK, how has being open about who you really are affected your mental health?
It affected it amazingly. As before, I was living in a secret kind of and I wasn't able to tell the people in my life what was going on. I'd be like, yeah, works good. So I feel like when I came out, it just helped it tremendously. I was able to be so open about who I liked, what I liked, going on dates, like telling people everything.
And I feel like also just with myself, like kind of accepting it made just something in my brain click and it clicked and it made me so much happier on like the day-to-day basis.
OK, I remember lightly seeing there were like ridiculous rumors on TikTok that you came out for attention. People were saying one of your relationships was fake. Why do you think that happened?
So this is also struggles. This is something that I struggle with on the day to day is like I'm very hyper femme. And, you know, looking at me, this is one thing that I eventually want to change in the LGBTQ community is like being femme and being gay is a very common thing. And I think it's why a lot of girls are
scared to come out because they're like oh but i don't look the certain way but it's like there's no certain way that you have to look like i dress like this every day i do my makeup i do my hair and i'm i'm very gay so people just also didn't want to accept it like because i was catering to the men audience so much that they were just kind of almost i feel like hurt by it and they were just like no you're not like you're not gay and i was like
wait, yeah, I am. I was like, hold on. I was like, this was a lot. I can assure none of my relationships have ever been fake, especially because I'm very like emotionally invested in people that like when people would say it was fake, I'd be like, no, I don't even have the mental capacity to like have a fake relationship right now.
How has being open about your sexuality affected your friendships?
So in my hometown, it was a little hard. I lost some friends there just because,
lack of education people just don't want to believe or they just are like wait that doesn't make sense or it comes down to like the wait were you attracted to me thing and I was like no I wasn't like just wanted to let you know that like I am in a relationship with a female or I'm bisexual or whatever it would be so I would say I
little hard in my hometown but that most of it when they would would they say to you like oh are you attracted to me like did anyone ever say yeah oh fully all the time and i'd be like i think you would know if i would be attracted to you like i would flirt with you or something of the sort i'm also not once like be attracted to somebody and not say anything like if i like you like i'm going to flirt with you and i'm going to like you know i'm very like honed down on it so but in los angeles like i lost no friends like it was kind of awesome because i even
got the opportunity to make friends with other people in the LGBTQ community by being open about it. And she'd be like, Oh, like, it's like kind of something to bond about.
I also love the confidence of you being like, you know, I'm going to own it. I'm going to give you guys another chance. I'm going to explain it to you and you can take it for what you want it to be.
It's lack of education. They don't know. And it's like, maybe they are too. And they just don't know. And just kind of the lack of like experience as well.
so in terms of relationships everyone is always writing into me like Alex give us advice on long distance relationships how the fuck do I maintain this what do I do is it worth it should I stay with this person you've had a long distance relationship how did you manage to stay close with someone who lives so far away well I've had numerous long distance relationships and
it's hard. Like I feel like with myself, every relationship I get into is long distance. Even my friendships, all my friendships are long distance. It's like, it's kind of weird to say, but it's like, I'll go two months without seeing my friends. And I'll be like, love you guys. Like I'll, I FaceTime them.
I think FaceTime is probably the best advice that I could give and like schedule times to FaceTime. So it's not just like a, Oh, they're not answering me. It's like, no, we're going to go get smoothies together via FaceTime once a week, or
twice a week or however much you want to like have that communication with them I feel like that would be the best I also don't strongly recommend long distance even though like I can't say that because I'm literally that would be me like Olivia remember this for the next one yeah but it's like regardless like anything with me it's like being bi-coastal it's like well I could have a relationship in New York but then I come to LA and it's gonna be long distance or I go to I travel besides just New York and LA I'm constantly in different places so I feel like
I don't recommend it, but it's also kind of inevitable in certain situations.
I do appreciate though, like I have did the same thing when I was somewhat long distance, scheduling those FaceTime dates. You naturally would be probably going on a date this Thursday night. Like, hey, let's have a date night FaceTime date and schedule that time. That's really good advice.
Yeah, definitely. And then you guys can cook dinner on the phone together and you know, like eat dinner and it's like a three hour FaceTime call, but it's like, and people would be like, oh, that's so stupid. But I'm like, Honestly, it's not because I haven't seen them in two weeks and I like want to tell them about work or whatever it would be.
Do you think being in a long distance relationship makes it more difficult to live in the present moment?
One thousand percent. Yes, it's I mean, I'm sure, you know, it's like you're constantly my screen time was like probably doubled when I was in any long distance relationship and. Cause I'm always texting the person just being like, Hey, like I'm thinking about you. Like you're at an event and I feel like at events, like it's, it's work.
So you're there and you're trying to be on your a game, but then you're like, Oh, I haven't answered them in five hours. Like I need to like text them. And like, I even got down to the point where I was texting them probably every like 20 minutes. And it was like, okay, Olivia, get off your phone. You're at work right now. Stop.
That's why those are they are so hard is because I'm thinking about it's like you can feel guilty. You can feel start to feel insecure. Like what is the other person doing?
Exactly. Because my also thing is I will like post on my social media and not answer anyone. And people get so offended by that. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Like it's it's not.
I haven't even opened my text.
Yeah. Like all of my text messages are I haven't answered my mom today. Like it's it's not a personal thing. It's like, oh, I like had to post this at this time or I'm. in the car and I'm taking a selfie. Like I'm not answering text messages. Like, no, I'm taking a picture. I'm posting my story. Like it's not that deep.
I've had in long distance when, you know, they're going out and you're not. And you're like, I'm sitting in my pajamas with my pimple cream on. And you see that they're like going to the club and you want to not be like over the top. Cause you don't want to trigger them of like, Oh God, I have my like crazy girlfriend being like, well, are you going to text me?
And you're at the clubs, you're trying to be chill. But then you're also like, make me feel secure. Yeah. Exactly.
And I think that was honestly probably the hardest thing, like just in like a long distance relationship in general. Like I've gone like months without seeing the person. It's like, well, I go out like a decent amount for like events and work and dinners and not being on my phone. And it's like, oh, crap. Like I don't ever want them to feel insecure because they shouldn't.
Was there anything ever you or a partner did that was like super cute to keep it fun and like surprise one another? No.
Ooh, I personally hate surprises. I've never been a surprising person. I'm like, no, like just tell me, like if you're planning on coming see me, just tell me. I feel like just other cute things, like just like fun dates. Like I feel like more recently I have a rule. Um, I will not go to dinner with someone like you want to take me on a date. We are not going to dinner. Like let's go do something.
Like I had this guy, I told him that and I was like, okay, cool. And he was like, okay, I have a crazy day plan. Like let's do this. And I was like, okay. He was, like, wear, like, athletic leisure. So I was, like, okay, maybe we're going to go work out. I don't know, like, boxing, something. And he picks me up, and we're in the car for maybe, like, 45 minutes.
And I'm, like, oh, like, where are we? I also lived in Calabasas. So we were, like, driving further. So I'm, like, where are we going? Also, first date. So I'm, like, this man could kill me.
Oh, yeah. I'm, like, wait, are you going to die? Like, what?
And all of a sudden, he, like, looks at me, and he's, like, we're going skydiving. What?
I was, like.
I'm scared of heights I you I probably should have told you this before that but I am like deathly afraid of heights to skip forward um I actually ended up getting out of the car and ubering home and I was like I never talked to him again I was like no like this is this that was kind of like the biggest red flag that like you were gonna take me skydiving to take someone skydiving on a first fucking date when you've never met in person how did you meet that person
I met them because I used to live in a content house, so our content house would have, like, events. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was, like, an event that we were having, and we just had, like, mutual friends. And I was like, oh, like, you're cool. And he's very, like, spontaneous. So I was like, okay, like, I need to date someone that's spontaneous. So I was like, okay, cool. Like, got it.
Like, let's do this.
And then... He just took it too far. It just went...
right over his head like the spontaneous so you just said hey i'm not down and you just ubered back i just was kind of like can you pull over did he go skydiving i don't think so i don't i don't i like literally like never answered him after that i was like sayonara dude
okay also because you're afraid of height yeah like no i was like i'm already deadly scared of planes even as much as i am on them i'm terrified of planes so i was like the fact that you just asked me to jump out of one with you i don't even trust you i don't even know you i'm like we're not even dating i'm like hold on this is romantic if you're with like you're the love of your life you're like let's do this and who knows what's gonna happen it's like i don't know you yeah i was like this is a lot for me i was like get me out of this car right now i'm not risking my life with a rando
um okay so with regard to all the long distance relationships you've had did most of them end because of the long distance I feel like it would be a factor in it but like never it was never like the pure reason that I was like we're breaking up because of distance like I should have never I should have cut the relationship off when it became long distance in any relationship just because it made things way harder than it needed to be um that's why I don't recommend long distance but you know
Do you think there's an expiration date to like all long distance relationships?
I would say like max. Like, I mean, it also depends what kind of long distance you are, because I know friends that live in Los Angeles and then like the other significant other lives in Vegas. And it's like that's such a quick flight back and forth. They see each other like all the time. But it's like also for me, it's like.
if I were in Los Angeles and I was dating someone in New York, it's like, first of all, different time zones. Also, I'm kind of not just in one specific time zone. I'll be like, when I was in my Sports Illustrated, like in Montenegro, like the time difference, I think it was like nine hours. And it's like, I don't even talk to you the whole day because when you're sleeping, I'm awake.
And when I'm awake, you are sleeping.
Or even when people are going to different colleges from each other and they're like, should I break up with this person? I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but probably because it's like, you're not going to be present. Yeah. And we're too young to not be present in our lives.
And that was my biggest thing. It was like, I was missing out on all these crazy opportunities because I was like, oh, no, my partner won't feel comfortable with this. Like, I'm so sorry. And it's happened numerous times with numerous partners. It's just kind of like a me thing that I feel like almost I need to work on. But you don't live in the present at all. Yeah.
OK, so more general dating questions. Do you consider flirting cheating? One thousand percent. Why are you flirting with someone else? If your partner has never posted any pictures of you on social media, do you consider that a red flag?
Any foot like if they haven't posted any, I think it's a red flag. One thousand percent. I also do think it's a really red flag if they're posting you a lot and like consistently just from like my own knowledge of like things that have happened. I'm like, OK, no, I'd like know what I don't like. So I feel like that's like moving forward. I'm like, yeah, like don't, why are you doing that too much?
Like a camera in my face in the morning. Yeah. Like maybe not. Yeah. Okay. Is it okay to break up with someone through a text message?
Yes. And people are so controversial.
Do you think, do you think it's, I wasn't expecting you to be so definitive. So I know I'm just, no, I'm 1000%.
I have,
broken up with people over text message i have been broken up with numerous times over text message i've been broken up over an email before like i've been broken up on instagram dms snapchat like anything that it's like i don't know i just take like any form of social media also when you're long distance it's like am i really gonna try this person on for the next like month until i see them and then break up with them like no like then that becomes messy and then there's like but maybe could you call them
well yeah oh yeah like also that um right I've like called people like yeah like I've done that like that's like email the email what is the subject line of a breakup email sorry sorry goodbye have a nice life yeah yeah that's rough it's rough but I get what you're saying like in some circumstances it could be maybe justified I think an Instagram DM is a little aggressive Olivia yeah well I didn't do that I just got I got broken up with over an Instagram DM and I was like
this was harsh. I was like, okay.
Yeah, that is harsh. That's really hard. Can you unsend it so I don't have to see it anymore? Okay. Which is worse for you? A heated argument with your partner in front of A, your parents, B, your friends, or C, your people you work with?
Oh, definitely the people I work with. Cause I feel like with my family and friends, I can like justify it and be like no i swear they're a good person work people they're like we saw that uh they're done next no no no like you are not going back to this person we see their true colors we want what's best for you no i was like
I kind of agree and it's kind of like embarrassing like again you can justify if like it's a dumb fight and you go to your parents you're like okay we're having an off day to the work people you work with you're like I don't even I we shouldn't even have to be having this conversation because this is work and like why are we now why did you just watch me fight with my partner like exactly not a little awkward now totally okay so you being
on social media so often. I think like everyone that is on social media, I definitely think in the pandemic, it was like kind of almost not, I would never say healthy, but like it was helping a lot of people with loneliness and TikTok came about because everyone was like finding almost a community through there.
Now I think a lot of people are back to talking about the negative effects of social media. And there's a lot of like detrimental things to our mental health that come from it. Can you talk about
the boundaries that you personally have had to set for yourself with social media I started using the feature on your phone where it's like the do not disturb where you get like zero notifications it's awesome it's so good people hate me because I don't answer but I'm like like I'll and you don't even get phone calls like my phone is like not buzzing at all I'm like this is awesome like I'm not I've not nobody's trying to contact me all of a sudden I look at my phone there's like 20 missed calls I'm like
Dang it. So I feel like boundaries wise. I mean, even when I turned off my comment section for that time because I couldn't read people making fun of my body anymore. And I feel like just it came down to a point where I now have like very strong boundaries with me on social media and.
certain things i'll talk about and like bring up and be like hey that wasn't cool but kind of just like genuinely doing that yeah i think i mean i don't have my comment section on anymore and i think like a lot of people still to this day are like oh you can't take the heat and i'm like it's actually not it was actually that i i will i yeah it was hurting my feelings yeah that it i were just like it wasn't helping my life so i turned them off and now
I think I've gotten to the point where I'm like, why? Yeah. Why would I like go back? Because I don't really want to hear. And I do love when people are so nice and they're like, oh, open your comments so we can like hype you up. Like you look great. But I'm like, you know what? It's like the negative validate or the negative comments.
Like also sometimes how much positive validation we get on the internet is not normal also. Yeah. So kind of like, I think it was probably a good idea for a moment to like step back if it's affecting you. Fully, fully, fully. What is your advice for people who are bombarded with images on social media that make them feel bad about themselves?
I was literally talking like I was dealing with this two mornings ago. It was I mean, I feel like every morning I wake up and I scroll through my Instagram. I'm like, oh, what's going on? And I feel like I get bombarded. I mean, I follow all the amazing models and like, don't get me wrong, love women, literally love women.
But sometimes it like really messes with your head because you're like, oh, like like you were talking about, like, oh, my stomach doesn't look like that. Oh, my boobs don't look like that. Oh, like they're working out right now. Oh, my gosh, I haven't worked out today. Like I need to go work out things like that. And I feel like my advice would to be.
social media that one picture is literally so constructed it's by a really good photographer you have your hair done you have your makeup done you have your nails done that's not what i look like 24 7 even right now i look like this maybe like a like i don't even know how like not that often like i was doing my makeup and i was like wow i haven't put like a face of makeup on in like
few weeks I'm like this is weird but just kind of like people present themselves as like the best possible version of themselves so I feel like on social media you just gotta remind yourself like okay this was a split second on one time of their day It's not real.
Yeah. Everyone is going to present their perfect life. And even think if you have an insecurity, think about yourself. What did you just post? Yeah. A perfect looking. Exactly.
Like that's like even the part that messes with my head. Cause I'm like, I'm doing the same thing. I'm falling in the trap. I'm posting these beautiful photos that I get back and I'm like, Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to post this, but it's probably detrimenting to like other people. And I'm like, ah, so I get in my head about it.
I'm like, I don't want like, I'm kind of on like a boycotting Instagram right now. Cause I don't want to fall into that.
even though I like very much I'm guilty of already doing it but yeah it's like a vicious cycle like I don't post as much as I used to definitely because I keep having to remind myself like wait why am I posting this again like what who is this for yeah like what's the point of this yeah so summer like I said wrapping it up summer is upon us Olivia do you have advice for women that are just like trying to go live their best life in summer but maybe are feeling a little insecure are feeling like they're not ready to like
get out there and like live their best life because they're they're seeing things on social media and they're like I can't live up to that I mean I feel like honestly my biggest thing is like just do it I've even noticed when I first moved to New York I had zero friends I knew nobody besides my agent and I was in like this pickle for like an awkward three months because I didn't know anyone and I was like I have no friends and
I'm nervous to do anything and then I just started like doing stuff and I would go to the gym and I would walk and go get coffee and I would like honestly go to Central Park and like walk around and it's like just you'll be at the hot dog stand and you'll see the girl right next to you and she looks cool and I'm like hey like what's up like my name is Olivia and it's kind of like that situation it's way easier than people process and yes it's very anxiety filled but once you kind of like turn it as in especially New York City like
I think that's great advice. So many women write in being like, I'm in a new city. How do I make friends? And the fact that you're like, you literally just turn to someone like, hey, I'm Olivia. You're kind of right. A lot of these cities specifically, I know people have moved to Austin, Nashville. So many people are moving to these cities. Chicago. And they're like, got no friends.
But we're all saying it. So just maybe try and introduce yourself and see what happens.
I'm so excited for summer. I'm going to Egypt. I'm like, whew.
Olivia's going to Egypt and I'm going to be on my couch watching your Instagram stories.
No, you have not.
I'm so excited for you. Honestly, congratulations on everything. Thank you. Getting that swimsuit. Like it's just truly like I grew up looking at that shit. Oh, me too. I don't believe it's a dream.
I'm like, wait, I saw myself and I was like, that's no, that's not me. That's not me. But I'm like, have it in my head. I printed it out in like the huge form and I put it in my apartment so like I can look at it and be like, that is me.
Damn.
Remember that Olivia. Yes. Happy Pride Month.
Thank you Olivia for coming on.
Thank you for having me.