Lex Fridman

The following is a conversation with Michael Levin, his second time on the podcast.

He is one of the most fascinating and brilliant biologists and scientists I've ever had the pleasure of speaking with.

He and his labs at Tufts University study and build biological systems that help us understand the nature of intelligence, agency, memory, consciousness, and life in all of its forms here on Earth and beyond.

And now, a quick few second mention of each sponsor.

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All right, let's go.

This episode is brought to you by Shopify, a platform designed for anyone to sell anywhere with a great looking online store.

With an engineering stack that utilizes the beauty and the elegance of Ruby on Rails that DHH so beautifully

articulated in my conversations with him.

I continue to tune in to DHH's tweets and posts on X. Just a beautiful human being.

And it's just nice to know that he's a big supporter of Shopify.

Him and Toby have been close for years, and it's just nice to know that great human beings and great engineers can create great products that also make a lot of money and also bring a lot of usefulness to the world.