Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 – Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans
Tue, 01 Aug 2023
Joscha Bach is a cognitive scientist, AI researcher, and philosopher. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Numerai: https://numer.ai/lex - Eight Sleep: https://www.eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off - AG1: https://drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/joscha-bach-3-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Joscha's Twitter: https://twitter.com/Plinz Joscha's Website: http://bach.ai Joscha's Substack: https://substack.com/@joscha PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (06:26) - Stages of life (18:48) - Identity (25:24) - Enlightenment (31:55) - Adaptive Resonance Theory (38:42) - Panpsychism (48:42) - How to think (56:36) - Plants communication (1:14:31) - Fame (1:40:09) - Happiness (1:47:26) - Artificial consciousness (1:59:35) - Suffering (2:04:19) - Eliezer Yudkowsky (2:11:55) - e/acc (Effective Accelerationism) (2:17:33) - Mind uploading (2:28:22) - Vision Pro (2:32:36) - Open source AI (2:45:29) - Twitter (2:52:44) - Advice for young people (2:55:40) - Meaning of life
Full Episode
The following is a conversation with Josje Bak, his third time on this podcast. Josje is one of the most brilliant and fascinating minds in the world, exploring the nature of intelligence, consciousness, and computation. And he's one of my favorite humans to talk to about pretty much anything and everything. And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description.
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I try to make this interesting, but if you must skip them, please still check out our sponsors. I enjoy their stuff. Maybe you will too. This show is brought to you by Numerai, a hedge fund that uses AI and machine learning to make investment decisions. It's basically a super difficult machine learning tournament that uses real data and people's submitted models to that try to predict the market.
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In a scorching Texas heat, the thing I go to to escape, to escape nature or the external harsh conditions of nature and going to the nature of my own mind, wherever that weird and beautiful dream world is, the place that has no rules, no boundaries, no limits. No physics. No constraints on what is possible and what is impossible. The dream world that we go to, what is that world?
It's the same world as imagination. It's such a fascinating world. The human mind, its capabilities are just so incredibly fascinating. And one of the ways to explore that is to dream. But it's the return from the dream world that is the most refreshing to me. That's why I love naps. It's a quick stroll through the dream world and you're back.
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