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Smells way better than mine! Isn't this a beauty? On my plate, it looks like my creation! Oh! My guest! Gah!
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john is still coughing that's remarkable maybe i mean it's not a particularly good start to a show but john is indeed still coughing yeah
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And once again, the rumor mill about watch redesigns, it once again proves to be mostly wrong.
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Yeah, but only recently, like only a couple months ago, they were saying it was going to have a whole new band attachment mechanism with magnetic bands and like all these, they're going to change the size more.
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Although the rumors also said that both sizes would be getting substantially bigger, and that's also not true. But both sizes did get bigger, just not substantially. Yeah, by like one millimeter. They were saying they were going to get rid of the small size. It turns out the watch rumor mill is, I think, the least reliable part of the Apple product rumor mill.
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And the pattern continued into this year as well.
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I was. No, this is like my wish list for this Apple Watch included, please bring back titanium. Now, the way they did it was not quite what I was imagining, but I will happily take it. So what they've done is they've replaced stainless steel with titanium that has a polished finish, not a brushed finish.
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So the old one had a brush finish that would form linear reflections because it was brushed in a line. This one appears to be just polished the same way that the stainless steel has been polished. So it's like a shiny chrome-like look on the outside. I actually prefer the old one, I think. I haven't seen this one in person yet. I prefer the look of the old one, I think.
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But the main advantage of titanium, as we see in the phones, is it's much lighter than stainless steel for the same type of product. So, this gets it a lot closer to the wonderful lightness of the aluminum models than it used to be. Again, I think I would prefer a more, like, you know, brushed kind of finish, but hey, I'll take this. This is good. And this is also, like...
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They've also added a bunch of new colors as part of their new kind of metals refresh here. On the aluminum side, they added a jet black, which looks a lot like the iPhone 7 jet black, according to pictures I've seen. Again, I haven't seen any of these in person yet, so we'll see how they look in person.
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But that's interesting to have a shiny jet black in the aluminum side for the very first time, because in the past, you'd have to go to steel to get shiny black. So that should be really cool. Rose gold and silver there in the aluminum. And then the titanium, they have an interesting color set in titanium. They have gold, cool. Slate, which is basically space gray.
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They've been making space grays since the beginning of time. And they've been in many different grays, but it's basically very dark gray. Then they have natural titanium in most of the models, but then the Hermes model has a exclusive silver color. Now, I am very curious to see those two in person, because how different is natural from silver? Is natural just a little shade darker, maybe?
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Like, that's what I would expect, because I think that is the, quote, natural color of titanium, so... We'll see what that means in practice. But either way, I am very happy to see Titanium is back in the regular series Apple Watch. That is great news to me. I have already ordered one in Titanium, and I'm looking forward to getting it for many reasons.
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But that alone, just bringing back Titanium is a big deal. That being said, there was there was there were a couple of things about the display before we leave that that I thought were interesting. So, of course, as John mentioned, the wide angle viewing angle, I think that that actually will matter a lot on the watch.
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But also the display now updates once a second when it's in like the the always on sleeping mode. It used to be once a minute. So now it's once a second. So now they've actually updated a lot of the watch faces to have like a ticking seconds hand like quartz watches do, which is interesting.
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And they have a couple of designs like they showed off, but that should overall make the sleep mode like a little bit nicer. That's kind of the theme of this display update is sleep. you know, the wider angle makes it a little bit nicer. The once every second updating a little bit nicer, the slightly bigger screen, a little bit nicer, like all those things just make the watch a little bit nicer.
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And so I'm, I think this is actually a substantial update to the watch. Even the 10% thinner, that is something that you will see and feel more than you might think from just hearing the number 10%. It doesn't seem like it's that big of a deal, but you notice with that kind of stuff. Also, they all weigh less than the outgoing models. So you also will notice that.
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I believe they said aluminum is about 10% weight loss and titanium is 20% less than the steel it's replacing. So those are substantial savings. Again, like last year, and we'll get to this, but last year we were all very happy about a roughly 10% weight reduction on the iPhone. I think it was even less than that. But you notice that. And so on the watch, I think we will notice these changes.
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These will be, I think, very nice to have. And that's kind of the theme of most of the Apple Watch update, the Series 9 to 10 update at least. Most of the update seems to be a pretty nice-sized collection of...
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reasonably minor individual things that i think will all add up to a very nice overall update to the watch um one other thing i wanted to call out because i don't i don't think you have it on your list here oh you do never mind you have a bolded later um you can now play music and podcasts directly through the speaker on the watch
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Yeah, I mean, and to be clear, like, this will destroy, like, it destroys the battery on the phone. Like, playing out the built-in speaker for sustained amounts of time is a substantial battery cost.
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So, you know, don't buy this expecting to do this on a regular basis, but it is nice that you can do it sometimes instead of having to pair AirPods to it just to hear, like, you know, if you, like, you know, are just trying to listen to a podcast as you walk around or something. So that's nice. That's a pretty substantial fix.
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Um, also other things about it, like the, you know, they have a, uh, a quote larger and more efficient charging coil and that makes it the fastest charging Apple watch ever. That's also very interesting. Again, as, as people move more into using these as sleep devices that you're wearing most of the day, charging speed matters a lot. Uh, so that's also a great thing.
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I sure can. It is not patented or copyrighted or trademarked. I think the only thing that possibly could be is trademarked because I don't believe in patents and copyright doesn't apply here. But I'm not even going to trademark it because it is an idea that I think should spread and I don't need to have my name be the only name ever attached to it because here's what you do.
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Um, so this all, this all sounds really good so far. I was very excited to get this update to the watch. Um,
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Even the Series 10 also gets the water depth gauge and the water temperature sensor, which were previously exclusive to the Ultra, which I think means that the Ultra, I think the only significant sensor difference that the Ultra has over the Series 10 now is the Ultra has the dual frequency GPS and Series 10 appears not to.
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oh yeah i forgot about that as far as as far as i can think i don't think there's many other gains the ultra has now besides like the more rugged physical design um but you know so so if you were getting the ultra for for a lot of reasons people would were getting the ultra before i think they can now get a series 10 and and be very happy with it yeah so before the event did you think that you were in the market for a watch at this event did you expect to be buying one
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I wasn't sure. I mean, most of the Apple Watch updates are very minor. And if you look at the Series 9 compared to the Series 6, say, or the Series 5, it's substantially better. If you compare, very much like I was saying with the iPhone earlier, but the iPhone being largely incremental every year,
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If you compare the Apple Watch this year, like the Series 9 compared to the Series 8 is not a significant update, like at all. If you replace my Series 9 with a Series 8, I don't know if I would ever notice the difference until I tried to double tap and realized it was even less reliable than usual. Yeah.
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But that would be a hard thing to notice, whereas if you replaced a Series 7 with a Series 10, you will notice the difference immediately and vice versa. If you replace it the other direction, you will definitely notice that difference. So they do make big changes over time. This is bigger than I expected.
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Besides, the only thing that would be bigger than this would be like a major physical redesign, which I think this is a moderate physical redesign. It's not nothing. It's not everything. I'm actually glad I can still use all my bands. And, in fact, they even tweaked some of the bands.
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So, of course, you have the standard new colors for the silicone bands and new colors for all the bands that have colors. But they even have new finishes for the steel bands. So now this is a little tricky. You could be forgiven for assuming that the new standard series Milanese loop and link bracelet are now made of titanium. They're not.
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Those are still made of steel, but they are made to match the titanium colors of the Series 10 watch. So they're now made in slate, gold, and I guess natural, most of them. So if you get a Series 10 watch and you want the Milanese loop or the Apple Link bracelet, both of which are great bands in different ways, you can get those now that match the titanium finishes of the Series 10, which is nice.
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And then the Ultra... didn't get a new watch at all but it did get new color a new black color finally and it has a bunch of cool new bands there as well including its own Milanese loop with that cool big latch thing I'm actually really curious to see that in person I I think that actually might be a fun band to have on the regular Series 9, but it might be a little too chunky. We'll see.
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You take your rampant consumerism that you are about to use or have already used to place orders for all these new tech products that have just come out or are about to come out, and you look at the base price of those products. So the new iPhone, say it's $999. Is that the – I don't even remember. Is it?
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Series 10, I mean. But anyway, it looks like overall, this is actually a really big update for the series. The series line of watches, it's a really big update for the bands, and it's not an update for the Ultra or the SE. But, I mean, it's a pretty good update. I will say, though, not updating the Ultra...
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Only two years into it is surprising to me because as far as I can tell, just like from looking around the world and hearing people who like Apple products, it seems like it's pretty popular. Like I see a lot of Ultras out in the world, a lot. Like on non-nerds and on people who I know are not doing ultra sports or ultra activities. They're not even living an ultra lifestyle.
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They're just people who like the way it looks or who want the battery life or whatever. The ultra is very popular, it seems. So it is kind of odd not to update it to like the new, you know, the S10 SIP and some of the new features that the Series 10 has. It is kind of weird. I wonder what the story there is.
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Like, do they, is it kind of like the Mac Pro and Mac Studio where they're like, eh, we can skip a generation. We don't sell that many of these. Like, I don't know. Again, I see a lot of them out there. So who knows? I don't know what happened there. We'll see what kind of update cycle the Ultra gets, but it is odd to skip one so soon.
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So iPhone Pro 999. So what you do is you say, all right, well, I got an iPhone Pro. I got the bigger storage option. I got the AppleCare. I got a case. I got to pay sales tax. Whatever additional money you're paying out the door above that 999 base price of the actual product, say it's a couple hundred bucks, that becomes your suggested minimum donation to St.
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Jude because that's like the add-on money that you are kind of just tossing on at the end there. The theory is you can probably afford something like that if you're fortunate enough to be buying this kind of gear in the first place most of the time.
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Yeah. Look, I'm not going to toot my own horn unnecessarily. No, I'm definitely right about this. The big regular series watch is the watch that I think is right for you. For reference, my Series 9, one-year-old, heavy use, wear it almost every day. I worked out today for a little over an hour in workout mode. It is now almost 9 p.m., and it's still a 65% battery.
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So if that's you, if you can afford it, that is my suggested minimum donation is that incremental offset above the base price of the product or products that you are buying. If you truly can't afford it, that's cool. We understand. Donate a dollar if you can afford that. Any amount helps. But if you can afford more, we encourage it.
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And I use Always On. I'm using it all day, and I don't charge it at all during the day. So, yeah, I mean, the battery life on the big one is fine. And for whatever reason, I did wear the smaller one for a few years there in the middle, and I always thought that was bad.
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decent battery life but it wasn't amazing especially after the watch was more than a couple years old you know you would start to notice it would have trouble getting through the day if you were doing workouts that's not the case with the big one now and there's different workout modes too like if you are say you know running outside so it's using the gps and if you're especially a playing music while running you know playing music on the watch while running with gps and workout mode that's going to be probably the worst case scenario for battery life
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Even that, the big one, is fine. Like, you know, the big regular series watch, I can do an outdoor run for an hour, listening to a podcast over AirPods the entire time with the watch, maybe even using cellular during some of that time, and it will still get through that day. It is fine. Like, I will go to bed and it will not be in low power mode. So...
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If your wrist supports it, I would strongly recommend getting the larger regular series watch for most people. Again, if you are okay with the size, fashion-wise, and I think most people can pull it off, honestly. You have to be pretty petite and also care about that kind of thing to not be able to pull off the middle-sized Apple Watch, which is what this is.
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and for most people, that's not going to be a concern. Most adults can easily pull off the big one, especially because large smartwatches are in style.
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Even on people whose wrists are otherwise fairly small relative to the average adult, say, the bigger watch, even the Ultra, most people can wear whatever size they want, and no one bats an eye at how it looks or whether it, quote, fits them or not. You can wear whatever size watch you want. Fashion is all over the place on that, and big smartwatches are very much in fashion.
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Oh, no. This is... Oh, my God. I loved this naming clumsiness. So here's what it is. So this is actually two different products. There's AirPods 4, and they introduced another version of AirPods 4, and they didn't announce the name until the end. And during the entire introduction of that part, they kept calling them these AirPods.
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So the introduction line was, for those looking for even more performance in this style of AirPods. And the entire rest of that section, she kept saying these AirPods, you know, these AirPods have, you know, these AirPods have this, these AirPods have that. The Apple Watch case charging compatibility in case speaker in this charging case for these AirPods.
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And then eventually they unveiled the name as AirPods 4 with active noise cancellation. which is one of those two Thunderbolt ports kind of names. So I would suggest, since the actual name is so comically clumsy, we should call them what they called them, these AirPods. So we have AirPods 4, these AirPods, and AirPods Pro and AirPods Max.
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Well, so we at least know the case is different. This charging case... Mm-hmm.
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Noise cancellation requires more microphones typically than just like one for receiving phone calls. So my guess is they probably have additional microphones. But I don't think we know that yet.
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I mean, the processor in them is just branded H2, like every other H2 AirPods. We don't really know... Is the H2 the CPU, or is there a difference? Is the H2 just the Bluetooth? Who knows? And then we also don't know, is there more than one kind of H2? Maybe they're binned. Maybe it's two little tiny cores, and some of them only have one core active. Who knows? They could be higher clock speed.
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In the features that are in these AirPods, these features have... More computational load to do some of those features. Things like ANC to begin with, obviously transparency mode, they have adaptive audio, they have conversation awareness. They have most of the core audio processing features of the AirPods Pro. So
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That's going to be substantially more processing needs than the standard AirPods 4 that don't have any of those. But what gets me, the standard AirPods 4 does have voice isolation on phone calls. So that's also kind of one of those features. So... I don't know. It could be as simple as a different case and a couple of software-enabled features. Who knows?
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But regardless, they now have, you know, most of the features available in the AirPods Pro are now available in, quote, this open-ear design.
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I mean, now that they have the pizza boxes to update them, maybe that's part of the reason why they did that, honestly.
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Keep in mind, also, the sales cycle of these products is the whole year and possibly beyond. So even if they have a lot of air shipment for these first few weeks as they're pretty new coming out of the factory, at some point, that sales rate is going to...
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you know, dip below the production rate by enough that they can start sending big batches of them by boat, and it'll be fine by the time they get here, you know? But also, one other thing on the carbon neutrality of the watch, as we went back to there anyway, I forgot to mention that one, I think, significant change this year.
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So last year, they introduced the first carbon-neutral Apple Watch configuration, but it was only like you had to get, like, I think it was just the aluminum one with just certain bands. So what they said this year was now... any Apple Watch in any finish, quote, can be carbon neutral.
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So it depends on what kind of band you pick, but it's new that any of the metals, like all the Apple Watches with any of the metal choices, can now be carbon neutral with certain band choices. I think that's great. They have expanded how many of their products can be carbon neutral.
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And they're indicating even in the store interface when you pick out things, they're telling you which choices are carbon neutral. So again, they're pushing that goal forward. I think that's a very laudable thing that they're doing that they're actually making real progress on.
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I mean, obviously, they really didn't have time to fix all of the AirPods Max's glaring shortcomings since it's only been out for four years.
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So, you know, when the AirPods Max came out, pretty much everybody said, Okay, these are pretty good in certain ways. They are a little heavy and uncomfortable as a result of that. They are very expensive, and the case they came with is stupid and garbage and very inconvenient, like that weird kind of bra-shaped case. It's a bad case in so many ways. So what they've changed is...
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We got new colors and a USB-C port, and we've addressed none of the major flaws of this product.
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think the fear is that and this is a very founded fear based on apple's history the fear is that this is going to be it for the next four years like that they they touched it and it's like all right we touched it it's it's updated new banner and then that's it no that's not this is this is clearly a sort of like try to stem some of the pain while we work on the successor right or they just can the whole product line but i think there's going to be a successor and
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But it was also a lot better. It still had a long way to go. But the second one was significantly updated.
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Oh, my God. But the AirPods Max are a better product that's more successful than the Home. But anyway, if I was an AirPods Max fan and I was waiting for this update, I'd be pretty mad. And, John, I think you're optimistic. You can make a bet. Add it to your calendar. I don't think there's a chance in hell the AirPods Max get another update at least for two years.
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I don't think I would bet two years, but I would bet five.
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Three? You want to go three? It's a little harder on me, but I think I'll go three. All right, let's do it. Three years. I'll take that bet. I'm saying not before three years from now. You're saying before three years from now that we'll get an update.
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Yeah, this is awesome. For them to be leaning into hearing health and to be taking advantage of the AirPods Pro's amazing abilities here, this is a very big deal for a lot of people.
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Yeah. And to be clear, like if any of you out there are hearing this and you're like, well, it probably doesn't work that well. If you've never heard transparency mode on AirPods Pro. It is way better than you think it can be. Even if you've heard transparency mode or pass-through mode on other noise-canceling headphones, trust me, so have I. Go read all the reviews.
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Everyone agrees the AirPods Pro transparency mode is way better than every other pair of headphones on the market, including, yes, the brand new, you know, whatever new Sony XM series is out that year. Yes, even better than that. Even better than the AirPods Max when they were new, let alone now. The transparency pass-through mode on AirPods Pro is remarkably good. It is stunningly good.
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So they can do things like this. They can have really interesting and useful and amazing audio features for people's regular hearing that are built upon transparency mode and the amazing thing they've built there. And this is just one of the many things, you know, I've mentioned in the past how I now I'm now using AirPods Pro 2 as my hearing protection when I go to concerts because it works.
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And this is another feature they talked about is hearing protection.
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Yeah, exactly. And so I actually, we'll talk about in the after show, I went to a concert this past weekend and I wore the same AirPods Pro in the same part of the audience in the same venue that I was in a year ago. And a year ago, that was the first time I tried them as hearing protection in a concert. And I gave a whole report on the show about how it worked pretty well.
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It worked better than any, quote, concert earplugs that I had available and that I had tried. Way better than all those. And it was pretty great. The only problem I had noted last fall when I went to the Phish concert was that...
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if I would like turn my head a little bit, like side to side, sometimes they would kind of get unbalanced because like I wasn't, I was no longer like aligned perfectly with the PA speakers, like evenly on both sides. You know, like if I, if I'm like looking to the left or right, um, and it would kind of like make the sound kind of unbalanced and wacky. And it was like a little bit imperfect. Um,
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This past weekend with the iOS 18 and whatever latest versions of AirPods firmware there are, this past weekend it was flawless. It was just perfect. There was no imbalance. There was no pumping effects. You get compressor pumping effects if you're in audio terms. None of that. It was just perfect. It sounded exact. And at one point I was like, the guitar sounds a little bit low in the mix.
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I wonder if that's the processing. And I took them out to see what it sounded like without them. And first of all, it blew my ears off. It was so loud. But I also noticed like, no, the mix is the same. Like it wasn't messing with the mix. It was just making everything evenly quieter. And all I was doing – this was not any new feature that they're about to add.
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This is the feature that's already there. It's just transparency mode with what is currently called reduced loud sounds, which I believe is on by default now. So they already, in the last year, have made massive strides before this new hearing protection version even launches. And so to have that now on by default and available in all listening modes – That's incredible.
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And all of the idea of using AirPods Pro as hearing aids, that's not only incredible for so many reasons, but also that's totally plausible as a thing that they could be very good at within the range of what they can correct for. They can't correct above a certain level of decibel needs or whatever, and that's fine. There's obviously, quote, real hearing aids for that.
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But this is going to be great for a lot of people. The only thing I would request, if they're going to lean more into this, which I love that they are, building on what John was saying earlier...
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wearing airpods pro when you're trying to like talk to people people don't know that you can hear them and it's it's not like this is just something that people are going to figure out next year next year or in six months like we've had airpods for a while now society has not accepted the idea that you can just talk to people wearing headphones because you on the outside you can't tell whether they can hear you or not see also the vision pro weird i think like you can't tell if they can hear you or not so you kind of are hesitant to talk to people with headphones in
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And I, as an AirPods user, will frequently – will almost always take them out when talking to people because, again, like even though my podcast is paused or whatever, they don't know that. So if they want to have AirPods Pro be able to take more of these roles – the smaller and more discreet they can become, the better.
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And this doesn't necessarily mean they have to be, you know, super tiny in your ears with the thing that loops behind you, like the way many hearing aids are designed. But even just something as simple as if they were available in something closer to skin tones rather than bright white, like even just, heck, even just give us a black version, but just like something other than bright white.
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Cause that's one thing when I'm wearing them at a concert, I'm very aware that like, this is very visible, right?
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like this like i would i would love to have those be a little more discreet skin tones would be perfect if not you know just something a little bit darker maybe um and certainly if they can investigate maybe a stickless design uh for this kind of use that would also be interesting um that obviously starts you start changing the product a little you know in pretty big ways once you do that but we know it's possible because literally everyone else does it that way
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So there are different suggestions I would make in terms of the physical design and colors to lean into this kind of feature set.
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Literally every other competitor, everything is stickless except the AirPods. I was going to say Beats isn't a competitor. It's also Apple. Well, but they let Beats explore different designs and different features and everything. But yeah, so overall, yeah, a discrete design would be great in the future, or at least different color choices.
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But overall, what an amazing feature set for the AirPods Pro 2. They were already incredible headphones. They've already replaced all of my portable headphone uses, yes, including on planes. They've replaced every other time I use headphones that's not at my desk. They're just so incredibly good. And this now expands their use even more, makes them even better. I am so happy to see this.
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I would never have guessed that Apple would do this. I would have thought that Apple would not want to get into another medical area that might require certain approvals or things. But nope, they did it. And I'm super happy they did it.
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In terms of, you know, we'll get into each of the products individually. I think overall, this event focused a lot more on software capabilities than hardware capabilities. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does make for, you know, a different tone of the event compared to, I think, what a lot of people expect or hope from an iPhone slash Apple Watch, whatever launch event is.
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So on the pro phone, they expanded a little bit on this, which might be related. On the pro phone section, they said that they, quote, maximized thermal capacity with a new aluminum frame with a, quote, graphite-clad aluminum substructure that provides up to 20% improvement in sustained performance on the 16 Pro. So it sounds like at least – in both phones, they talked about thermals.
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The reality is this is the, what, 18th iPhone or something? There have been so many iPhones. It is such a mature product. The annual incremental updates are not that big anymore in terms of interesting, showy new features or hardware changes. It's not that much every year. It's incremental in the hardware market.
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And in both phones, the euphemism they used was improvement in sustained performance. But what that really means is heat dissipation. That's what that means, cooling. And so whether this base 16 has the graphite-clad aluminum substructure, we don't know that. No, it doesn't. They would have said it. Probably, yeah.
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But either way, the thermals are better in both phones, and that's good because on the 15 Pro at least, I don't know about the regular 15, but on the 15 Pro, thermals took a pretty big step back. So this is good to see.
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But, and this is like, look, Siri looks good in presentations too.
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Yeah, and I think that, so the camera control, and that's literally like, they kept calling it Camera Control or The Camera Control. It seems like this is a kind of loosey-goosey name, whether it includes the or not, whether you're supposed to capitalize it. But yeah, it's The Camera Control. Anyway, it's better than these AirPods. At least it has a name.
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What we tend to see, though, is interesting stuff in kind of software capabilities, backing services, things like that. And this year, the story is obviously all about AI-based features. And Apple intelligence in particular is what Apple is trying to push. And it's not just them. Obviously, the whole industry is pushing it right now with a lot of good reason.
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Anyway, so this button, I think this is great. I think this is... What's interesting is that if you look at the rest of the phone's updates, they're mostly, again, software and incremental improvements. The camera control is the update for the iPhone 16 series.
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That's true, yeah. Sorry, I jumped ahead to the Pro. But yeah, because they both have the camera control, which is great. And it looks like... So what's interesting about the camera control is that it has all these different modes. It isn't just another action button. It has much more input potential than that. So it has...
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It has the concept of like a light press because it looks like it's kind of like a touch ID button where it has that metal ring around the end. And so it can sense when you're just touching it. They also said that it appears to use optical sensing from below to see like where your finger is on it and maybe how much contact it's making, like how hard you're pressing.
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So what you have is you have soft touch gestures. And you have a push in gesture and you also have swipe gestures. And so what they've done with this is all sorts of of fun new controls that I think will actually be somewhat intuitive. So one that we skipped over is visual intelligence, where it's like it's like the humane pin thing of like, what am I looking at? You know, what is this?
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Do something with it. And that is you just hold it down. And that actually makes sense because visual intelligence is like Siri in a way, and it's below the Siri button. And it's like, okay, you hold down the sleep-wake button for Siri, and now you hold down the button below it for visual Siri. I think that actually makes sense.
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And then, of course, the camera, click to launch, click again to capture. While you're in the camera mode, you can use the swipey gestures and the light touches to control different camera settings, zoom, stuff like that. That, I think, is going to be pretty great. We will talk about case implications in overtime today. Yeah, that's going to be rough.
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But other than that, we'll get to that in overtime. But I think this is going to be a fun new input. I don't think it's going to be like... I absolutely must have this right now because all of those functions are available in the UI on the screen. But it will be easier and better in certain ways.
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One way, for instance, that it will be better, besides the fact that you don't have to reach that button at certain angles and stuff, one angle you don't have to reach it in is if you're trying to use the back camera to take a picture of yourself. You don't have to reach your finger around and guess or try to hit the volume button where you're reaching your hand around in a weird way.
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Yeah, and there's a whole bunch of context like that where the camera control, I think, will just make life a little bit nicer in a lot of different occasions. So I think it's going to be a really big deal. And again, it's on both iPhones. I think it's going to be a really big deal. The only thing that I've seen some people say, like, is this going to be the future of input for all apps?
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not for the foreseeable future because while there is an API for it, which I think is great to have a day one API for third party camera apps to have all those same controls, that's great. Problem is that API only works if the app is in the foreground and running an AV capture session, which means only camera apps basically while the camera is open are going to be able to use it. So like,
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There is a lot of excitement there and a lot of advancement there. But what Apple is doing here is... communicating to the world, look at us, we have AI too. And to most of us who watch Apple very closely, we know the asterisks on that. Like number one, we know that it's not really out yet. And even when it quote comes out in a month, it'll be
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I couldn't, for instance, use it to offer, say, a speed control for Overcast. I can't. It will not work for that because I don't have an active capture session.
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Also, I don't think that works in the background. But yeah, that would definitely get rejected. So Apple has restricted the use of that to only apps that are performing capture in the foreground. So I don't expect to see most apps use that for anything, really, because you kind of can't. But...
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Even if it's only ever used in camera apps, even if you only ever use it in Apple's built-in camera app, I think that's going to be really great. And again, it's not going to be massively life-changing, but it's going to be a nice quality of life improvement. So that, I think, is the feature for this year's iPhones.
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Besides Apple intelligence, we'll see how that works, when it actually comes out, how good it is. But for right now, the camera control is the feature this year.
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Yeah, the non-pro iPhone 16 now has 48 megapixels on the main sensor. It's not the same camera. It's not the same lenses or sensor as the pro. Is it the same as the 15 pro, though? That's what wasn't clear to me.
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no the pixels are not as big and the the lens is 26 millimeter versus 24 so it's not it is does not have the same specs as the 15 pro or the 16 pro 1x camera but anyway it's a step up from the 15 for sure yeah so yeah they're doing they they brought the pixel binning trick where you know they the 12 megapixel sensor becomes 48 if you ignore color divisions and temporarily figure stuff out like so it it it they brought over that
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in beta and limited and only a subset of the features like we know all those asterisks we also know almost that entire story because they showed it all to us in june but the iphone event is for the entire world it's for world media it's for people who don't care about anything else all year from apple except the iphone and the iphone event It's for mainstream people to hear about this stuff.
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trick to increase resolution and the process that goes with that they also a bigger jump should be the new ultra wide now has variable focus macro capability larger aperture bigger pixels so the ultra wide has taken a significant step up for the non-pro phone and that and the new arrangement of the sensors now allows it to take spatial video and interestingly both phones now get the ability to capture spatial photos which
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which for some reason the 15 could not do, the 15 Pro could not do spatial photos. It could only do spatial video. Now both of these can do spatial photos as well. Oh, one other thing. When we were still in the 16 section, they briefly talked about emergency SOS and all the satellite features. They talked about how they are expanding the satellite capability to more countries.
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They have just totally not mentioned SOS pricing over time. I believe, aren't we now to the point, aren't we now at the two-year mark?
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like they're just pushing it off yeah i think i think the answer is for most of this stuff they're probably just never going to charge because as we talked about last time like if somebody's like stuck in a mountain and dies because they didn't buy their iCloud plus whatever for satellite connectivity like that's not good and apple knows that and so it seems like they're probably just never going to charge for this but they haven't had the you know the the the data or whatever to be able to commit to that yet
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So we'll see how that goes. But anyway, yeah, Emergency SOS and Find My is expanding in its coverage area.
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I love, by the way, the way that Jaws phrased this. He said, you know, even larger screens, quote, we did this while minimizing product growth. Right. That's his euphemism for the phone. We didn't make the phones bigger. Well, rather we did. We minimized how much bigger they got. So now we've learned like, you know, over time, we occasionally pick up little Apple-isms.
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You know, every company has corporate speak and custom corporate vocabulary that drives outside people nuts when they hear it. And, you know, we hear a couple, like sometimes they'll leak out into public space. You know, we could tell that obviously around the forestall era, using the term blow away as an adjective would seem to be one of the still happening.
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That's one of those things that infected the company back then and still going. So, you know, you hear about you hear certain, you know, certain apple isms will occasionally leak out. And now we know minimizing product growth, which is not about sales of a product, which sounds like a bad thing.
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No, it's minimizing product growth, which is minimizing the amount that we make the iPhone bigger, which we've tried to fit this bigger screen in.
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Well, I think we are already seeing phoneflation over the last few years. If you look at the size of the current, quote, normal-sized phone, which is, I mean, now that there's no more mini, I guess, these are the smallest phones Apple's making. The size of the, quote, small phone in Apple's lineup is probably the size of the iPhone 6 Plus, if I had to guess, right?
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And it also serves as a, you know, even for people who pay attention to the WWDC keynote, it's kind of a reminder like, hey, remember that thing we showed you three months ago? Well, now it's about to come out. So it's kind of a way to like refresh the excitement, even for people who pay attention back then.
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I mean, somebody will do the math on that. We're getting close. It's certainly heavier and thicker. It's much heavier. Phoneflation and sizing has already been happening. This is not a new thing, and it isn't a question of whether it's happening. It's absolutely happening.
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Remember how nice it was last year, one year ago, when the 15 Pro came out and it had saved some weight? And we were all talking about how nice those phones felt compared to the bricks of the previous ones. We've now lost about half that gain. Well, it's like dieting. A lot of the weight comes back. That's literally what happens.
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So in a large way, this event is not incredibly targeted at people who follow Apple regularly like us. It is really a very mainstream event, and it's made to promote the new iPhone to the world. And usually in the iPhone event, what we see largely is –
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trying to associate the new software features of the iOS update for that year with the new hardware to get people excited about the new hardware, even though many of those things are software features that aren't necessarily exclusive to the new hardware. So overall, I see why people were a little bit meh about the announcements at this event.
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Well, so they said that the A18 Pro has larger caches. So I don't know what the structure is. Like, is the cache like a separate layer?
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I actually, to me, you know, so the event went Apple Watch, then AirPods, then phones. And I think that's also the order of how interesting they are. In descending order, though. Like, I think the Apple Watch, to me, I think had possibly the most substantial update. And then I think the AirPods were in the middle, and maybe the phone is the least substantial. But...
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So what's interesting about this lens and everything, it sounds like the sensor and the optics are the same as the 15 Pro. No, no, the sensor is not the same. Well, with one exception, with the readout speed. So they call it a second-gen quad-pixel sensor. It sounds like the main and possibly only difference is faster readout, which has benefits, but it's the same pixel size.
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It's the same aperture. And as the 15 Pro and the 14 Pro... Same lens, it seems. And so just the sensor, the 15 Pro added the quad pixel binning thing over the 14 Pro. And now the 16 Pro is making faster readouts on that. So this is a good camera, but we're really not seeing massive year-over-year camera differences anymore the way we used to.
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Yes. So that is brand new. The ultra wide has a substantial upgrade in its quality and sensor. It is not the same like, you know, giant sensor and big optics as the 1X camera. It never has been and probably never can be because of things like physics. But it is a substantial upgrade, which should be good, especially for things like spatial video capture, which uses both of those sensors.
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Overall, the story here is really about Apple intelligence and software features, and the hardware is very incremental on the phone. I would say it's more than incremental on the watch, but on the phone, it's pretty incremental. So we'll get to those details, but... I am fine with how this went. I wish the phone would have been a little bit more new.
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And I actually even considered skipping the phone this year. But it should be the first time ever, honestly. So I see why people are a little disappointed by that.
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Yeah, this is great. There's a few reasons why raw files are so much bigger than JPEGs or HEX, and now I guess JPEG XLs. Part of it is that it's saving a larger range of possible values compared to a JPEG, which is limited to a certain visible range or whatever. So part of it is we're storing more precision, more depth.
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But a big part of why RAWs are so big is that they are literally uncompressed. So they are, in some cases, totally uncompressed. In some cases, losslessly compressed, which is not that compressed. There's a lot of...
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I think middle ground that, that we're exploring now as an industry in terms of like, let's compress the image perceptually the way JPEG historically has done, like, you know, perceptual image compression. So it is lossy compression, but just at a very high, you know, bit rate, so to speak. Uh, so we're not losing too much that people would actually notice, uh,
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but still try to save more range of values and like less processed values. So that way we can do things like this. And so what seems to be the case is whatever we're doing with the photographic styles, they are storing more data like that so that you can do these things after the fact.
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And that is a great direction for photography to go because raw files are, are great for what they are really for, which is not your phone, right? and not most people using them. It's for certain professional contexts. They're great for that. But for most people, something that has lossy compression, but that can store more ranges of values is potentially very useful.
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No, but if we all had very different talents than what we actually have, it could be pretty useful to us. No, this is all... This looks great. A lot of musicians do use this for this kind of purpose. So this is... It's great. It's amazing they can do it.
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And I'm glad they're working on improving things like the microphone array and different ML processes and stuff because that can often filter down to features or benefits that everyone can use, even if they aren't songwriters or movie makers or whatever else.
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Basically, yeah. Because I think they realized that everyone was using voice memos for this anyway.
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You want to talk about any orders or are we just going to plow right through?
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I'm going to get the white one, the 256, and Tiff looked at the upgrades and was like, I don't need one.
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Well, because she's already on the 15 Pro Max, so she already has the 5X camera. The other cameras didn't change enough for her to care, and...
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I did not phrase that well. I described it to her, and she's like, eh, I don't care. Maybe she'll see mine and get envious at some point, but I think she honestly just doesn't care. Again, this is a... If you have...
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fairly recent iPhone this is not like a a blow away update sorry like this it's again it's a nice incremental update and as John was saying like over time incremental updates do add up and it does become great but if you have if you have like a 14 or a 15 Pro and and you're looking at the 16 Pro, it's not that different.
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From the 15 Pro, it's almost not different at all, with the exception of the camera control. The 14 Pro, at least you get the USB-C and the lighter weight-ish, and two generations of improvements in certain areas. So the 14 Pro to the 16 Pro, it's a better upgrade. If you have a 15 Pro, the only reason we're doing this is because we're idiots and podcasters. We shouldn't be doing this.
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And the AirPods Max. Keep in mind also, like, you know, the next year we have those rumors of the iPhone Slim, which, you know, even if that might not be what everybody chooses, that's certainly going to be an interesting new thing to shake things up. So, like, that's something that's in the next year. And also, like... This year is the year of Apple intelligence.
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That's great, but the beginning of the year of Apple intelligence is not going to actually be there. And Apple intelligence is being gradually started over the course of a large chunk of the year.
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Right exactly like I so if you're thinking like I've got to jump right now to get Apple intelligence like I would say you don't and you might want to wait until like if Apple intelligence is your main driver for upgrading you might want to wait till next year because most of this year most of those features probably won't be available.
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And even if they are, they're still going to be in a fairly beta-like status for most of the year. And most of the excitement of Apple Intelligence is going to be, first of all, if it works, it's going to develop over time. This is going to be like a multi-year ramp-up. It's not going to all come in the next few months.
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So, honestly, I think this is a nice incremental upgrade, and if you want a new phone, get it. But if you're saying, I've got to get a new phone for Apple Intelligence, like... You don't need to rush on that.
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All right. Thanks to our sponsor this week, Tailscale. Thanks to our members who support us directly. You can join us at atb.fm slash join. And this week, our overtime, which is our member-only exclusive bonus topic that we do every week for members, as mentioned, is about the iPhone 16 series case situation.
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and uh there's there's some some interesting issues there to talk about so we'll be talking about that in overtime you can join to listen to hbfm join thanks everybody and we'll talk to you next week so
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As discussed in last week's After Show, where I was talking about some issues I was having with the Rivian and the even greater issues I was having getting it serviced, I mentioned that part of the reason I needed a car to go a long distance with fast charging is that I was going to a Goose concert. This is a jam band and kind of very similar to Phish in certain ways.
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It's definitely the same genre as Phish, but of course they are their own band with their own identity and their own style. But certainly the closest analog I would say is it's closest to Phish from what people would know. Anyway, so I was going to a concert upstate and hundreds of miles away, so it was a lot of driving.
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And I do want to talk about the concert, and then I'll talk about how I got there. So anyway, because this was the first time I had seen Goose in concert, I used the AirPods Pro as my earplugs, as I mentioned earlier. They did a fantastic job. Again, even better than last year. No artifacting, no imbalances whatsoever. A flawless job. I was very happy using AirPods Pro as my concert earplugs.
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I really could not tell I was wearing them most of the time. It just sounded like it was a reasonable volume. It was great. I will say Goose as a band puts on a very good show. And if you are into seeing jam band concerts, I would say definitely go see Goose if you get a chance to. It is a little bit more, I'd say a little more mainstream compatible than Phish. Yeah. Not a lot more, mind you.
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It's still a jam band. But they don't go quite as far off the deep end for quite as long as Phish tends to do. So it's a great show. First of all, just on a personal level, for a long time, I felt like Phish is my only band. And what the heck is going to happen to my enjoyment of music when that band inevitably ends at some point in the future? And I'm very heartened to see that there's more.
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Goose is now in that same genre doing a great job as well. And so it's great to see there's more bands making the kind of music that I like. So anyway, great show. They had especially an amazing and quite intense light show. My favorite thing, I strongly suggest one of the reasons to go Seagoose, in addition to the very good music, they are a really visually interesting band.
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He's also a very good guitar player. He's very good in the jams. I didn't hear a single missed note the entire time. It was quite good. Next to the lead singer is this guy, Peter Ansbach. I don't know most of the names, but I know Peter Ansbach because I follow him on Instagram. He looks like a cartoon character, like a happy cartoon character.
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If you see pictures of the band, the one who looks like a happy cartoon character, that's Peter. He is, like, the nicest guy in the world, and he's always smiling. Because he seems like a genuinely, like, just smiley, happy, positive person. Like, he's a super nice guy. And so, you have, you know, the lead singer, like, you know, looking all cool.
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Then you have Peter looking like a cartoon smiling character, like, playing keyboards on the side. Then, in the back, you have two drummers. One of them is the regular kind of drummer. The other one is an accessories kind of drummer. He has tambourines, shakers, and my favorite, a gong. I love a band with a gong. That's always a good thing. Then you have the bass player.
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cop from an 80s movie with like a long mullet and those big sunglasses and he stays like perfectly stoic and still and emotionless the and he's a good bass player like he's playing very well but like you have the entire rest of the band is these like characters and like right behind the bass player is the drummer he they just replaced their drummer a few months ago he's a new drummer to the band he is working his butt off and
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So the entire time you're seeing this amazing new drummer who is just in constant motion, like he gets really physically into it. And to be a rock drummer, it's hard enough. To be a jam band drummer, you're doing that for 25 minutes straight. Like, without a break. Like, you're doing that for a long time.
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So, like, you have this drummer who is just working his butt off, like, really physical, just banging around for 25 minutes straight. And all around him is, like, rainbow lights and smoke effects and, like, all... Like, there's just...
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chaos going on back there and in front of it is this bass player who looks like a cop just staring at you like it's just totally still as all this chaos happens behind him it is an amazing thing to see so anyway it was a very very good show strongly recommend going to see Goose and Conch if you get a chance All right. So how I got there.
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So I mentioned, you know, I my Rivian had problems with fast charging on the highway. Like I couldn't reliably fast charge without like rebooting the car and waiting and it kept throwing errors and have problems. And I believe the two of you and certainly people in the chat and listeners suggested, why don't I just rent a car for the trip?
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And so I decided, you know what, since the Rivian was being unreliable, I thought that's a good idea. I'm going on a long trip. I'll just rent something. How bad could it be?
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So I rented, you know, I went to our local enterprise branch. And of course, on the website, they list, they have all these like fun sedans and everything. And of course, then you get there and they have two SUVs and nothing else. It's like, Okay. I wish they would stop doing that. It's literally false advertising.
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Anyway, I'm not super happy with Enterprise Rent-A-Car right now, because what they rented me with the advertisement of all these sedans they didn't have and all these other fun cars they didn't actually have, and I get there and they have two SUVs. One of them was a Jeep Wagoneer, which is A bus.
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I'm pretty sure that the bus that brought my kid to school on the beach was smaller than that vehicle. It's a very large vehicle and I didn't want to pay that kind of premium. So they offered me for the sedan rate that I actually reserved. They offered me the smaller SUV, which was a few years old Ford Escape plug-in hybrid. This was my first time using a plug-in hybrid.
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Yeah, I rented the Ford Escape. Now, it was pretty old. It had like 37,000 miles, which I think is the highest I've ever seen on a rental car, not counting things like U-Hauls, which are always miserable, but just regular rental car places. So it has 36,000 miles. It's like falling apart. There's like padding is falling off of things.
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There's like different trim pieces that are just like kind of loose. It's not in good shape. It smells like a stale car. It's not a great car. But it seemed to drive fine when I drove back to my house the night before I left and was going to leave early in the morning. Okay. So I'm playing around with the plug-in hybrid part. I even charge it up in my house because I have the connector.
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I'm like, great. I charge it up and see how it goes. And I brought the family out for pizza that night. So I got a chance to drive it around town. And I decided to use only electric mode driving around town. And it was, like, decent.
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I was like, okay, it's not as good as an EV overall, but for those brief times you're driving around town before it runs out of battery, it's actually a decent option. The way I would describe it, this is not a perfect analogy, forgive me, but the way I would describe it is, like, it's almost like the way, like, a bike with training wheels is
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gives you the idea that you are riding a bike and you're like, you're kind of, but like a bike with training wheels is really not almost anything like riding a bike. Whereas like these days, a lot of kids learn on what's called a balance bike, which is basically a bike with no pedals. Because we've kind of figured, and this is how my kid learned as well.
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We've kind of figured out that the hard part of riding a bike is not the pedals. It's the balancing. It's like figuring out how to balance with the inertia and the tipping over and the turning and things like that. And so a bike with training wheels teaches you to pedal but doesn't teach you anything about the balance.
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A balanced bike teaches you the hard part, the balancing and the turning and everything. And you can figure out the pedals afterwards when you use a regular bike. Um, so we've kind of learned that's kind of a better way to teach most kids. Uh, anyway, to me, like the, the plug in hybrid is like the training wheels bike of EVs.
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Like it gives you the idea that it's, it's just like an EV most of the time, right? It's like, no. but it's better than nothing.
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We breezed over it so fast and I want to revisit it.
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I would say it's so that's you're right that like when when you are in the electric only range of a plug in hybrid, it is in the ballpark. Certainly, like you're right. It is usually the electric motors are not very strong. So you do have that problem of like it doesn't have the power of an EV. It doesn't have the torque of an EV.
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other minor things that I think make a big difference to EV drivers so for instance like you know it will usually try to mimic the same way the gas engine would drive so you have things like very strong creep like when you lift off the gas pedal and it just starts going you can turn that off in errands but I take your point oh okay the Ford Escape like it had I mean granted you know I'm used to driving electric recently so I'm not that used to it but like
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You took your foot off the gas, and it would go five miles an hour immediately. I was like, whoa, hold on. I didn't say go. It was the fastest creep I've ever seen in a vehicle, whether it was in gas or electric mode. And also, you then have all of the complexity and size and weight of all of those systems. Yeah.
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that's true so it's again like if you if your option for your needs is either gas or plug-in hybrid go plug-in hybrid like it's definitely better than better than pure gas but don't tell yourself that like all right i'm done with the ev transition now like no like you're you have a you have a halfway point there and it's a it's a decent halfway point for a lot of people but it's not the same as a full ev and you're not getting all the benefits of an ev
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Yeah. Anyway, overall, I was actually fairly impressed with this kind of stinky Ford Escape. Like, this is not a high-end vehicle, but I was kind of impressed overall with the driving until I was driving through Brooklyn, and I was stopped at a traffic light, and the car just kind of dies.
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i'm like um that's did i do something wrong here is this well this is no different than the rivian then welcome to auto stop start well one great advantage of the ford escape plug-in hybrid i don't know if this is true of all plug-in hybrids there is no auto stop start because it just uses electric at low speeds so you don't have that effect at all and and there's not even a button to turn it on or off like you just what effect the gasoline engine will still turn itself off will it not
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Well, it will when it's not being used, but it's not like auto stop start where most cars that you stop at a traffic light and then the engine just kind of stops.
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Well, and kind of, I mean, I didn't know most of that for regular hybrids, but I think the, my ideal setup, because like Casey, you're right that like around town being all electric and then just using gas on long trips is kind of the best of both worlds. Because, you know, I didn't have to think about charging at all.
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Right. But, you know, TIFF has the BMW i3 with the range extender. And the way that works, which I think is the same way the Chevy Volt worked, is it is always driven by the electric motors. There is no direct connection between the gas motor and the electric motors, not even if you floor it, not even for extra power. The gas motor can never drive the wheels.
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It is only a generator to boost the range. So the way the i3 works is you're using all electric until you hit about 20% battery. then it will turn on the gas engine and just kind of keep it there. Like it will generate enough to keep it at 20% until it runs out of gas. And it only has like a one and a half gallon gas tank.
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It's like a motorcycle engine, but it's using it as a generator to just give you more range when you get to the bottom of your electric range. And that's, that's all, you know, it has like a hundred miles of range before it even gets there. So you have a decent sized battery and then you have like 80 miles worth of range extension from using a gas generator from one and a half gallons of gas.
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I think my ideal setup for like a long range road car, if you didn't go all E.V., would be just do that, but instead of having a 1.5-gallon tank, have, like, a 5-gallon tank. Then you could go 300 miles easily, 400 miles, at least. And then you could, on a long trip, you could just stop and get 5 gallons of gas and keep going for another few hundred miles like that.
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I'm sure there's good reasons why no one ever made that, but I don't know those reasons because I think that sounds amazing. And it's literally exactly what the i3 and the Chevy Volt were, just with bigger gas tanks. But I'm sure there's probably reasons. Anyway... So, this car stalls, and everything's dead. And it's like, it won't turn back on. It's throwing errors on the screen.
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And I'm like, oh, no. This is not good. I'm going to a trip for a concert that is tonight. Like, I have to make it there, but let me just, you know... Turn it off, turn it on again. Eventually, after like 15 seconds of messing with it, I finally just got it to turn on. And I was like, okay, I'm going to try to keep going. Let's hope for the best.
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Well, a short time later, while driving on the West Side Highway in Manhattan, it dies again. And I slowly drift over, try to get to the shoulder. I have just enough power to get over to the right lane and block an entrance ramp.
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So now I'm dead again and I'm blocking an entrance ramp to the West Side Highway.
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This is not good. It takes me a... You know, I turn on the flashers. I'm trying to... And just... I'm like, all right, well, I know I got it going last time. After a few seconds, just try to turn it off, turn it back on again. Eventually, after maybe 30 seconds, I eventually got it going again. So, you know, everyone's honking behind me. I'm like waving. So, you know. So, I... I keep going.
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Eventually, you know, I'm going upstate, taking a highway off-ramp to go – I'm sorry.
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Right. And, like, I have a concert to go to that night. So I'm like, look, I can – there's Enterprises upstate. Like, if the worst case, like – I'm going to make this concert. Worst case, like maybe tomorrow on the way back, I can get a different car if I really have to, you know, by going to some local location. But like I'm not going to miss the concert. So I keep going.
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I didn't end up having to replace the car on the trip because there was just never a time where it was that urgent because I was able to get it going every time. But over the course of this trip, it stalled about 12 times like this. Oh, my word. Usually at least while it was stopped, like at a light or something. And I tried – and here, of course, I'm a nerd.
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So I'm like, I wonder if I – because you can pick – because it's a plug-in hybrid, it has all these different modes. You can have auto or you can have only use the battery mode, don't use the battery mode, and you can have make the engine run constantly to charge the battery mode.
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Yep, yep, yep. So, of course, I tried all those different modes, trying to figure out, okay, well, is it... Maybe it's misreading the battery voltage, so I'll keep the battery at a high charge level using the generate option. Maybe it's, like, you know, dying in the switchover, so I'll make it never use the battery, and that didn't work.
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I'm like, maybe I'll make it always use the battery, and then alternate between, like, always using it until it's down, then make it charge itself all the way back up. And then, like, I tried all these, because I was in this car for, like... I don't know, seven, eight, nine hours during this trip. It was a long time. So I was like, I had a lot of time to play with the different modes.
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None of them made any difference whatsoever. It just kept dying. So I did make the trip. It was fine. Eventually, I was, you know, in some pretty bad situations with this dying in the middle of busy highways and New York City and stuff. But, you know, it was...
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I did eventually make it back with all the – including it even stalled literally the traffic light right before reentering the Enterprise location to drop it off. It stalled there.
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I told them – I expressed to them my dissatisfaction with the situation. They were apologetic.
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they didn't give me a discount or anything i but i'm like look you i'm like just take this car off the road like just you have to take like you know i wasn't going to make a huge deal out of it because i don't want them to think i was making a big deal just to get like a discount or something but i'm like you got to take this car off the road like this is unsafe so anyway um the idea that renting a car might be more reliable than my broken rivian uh nope wasn't
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Nick, these guys are low energy today, you notice that? You know what we need to do? We need to f***ing gamble. Let's do it, Nick. Let's play a f***ing hand of blackjack. Let's get these guys f***ing amped.
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Nat thought he was hilarious. Oh, because of the disparity in the looks between you and Nat is what he was sort of implying.
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It sounds like you guys are in the halls of power now, and Trump has flipped his positions on EVs, abortion, and taking away a woman's right to choose. He's flipped his position on TikTok and flipped his position on crypto. I give him a ton of credit. Four flips in a month, and he just sweeps all those votes. It's pretty smart. And for the Democrats who are listening,
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You're losers, and you're not listening to people. So you're going to lose the election, and Biden's going to get demolished. Nobody wants to vote for somebody who they think is incognito. That's your bet right now, Jacob.
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I mean, did you see the video that came out this week where he was at some event, and it looked like a Mitch McConnell moment, right, where he was kind of frozen? He was like stuck. And so I don't want to make it like elder abuse, and I know...
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Yeah, he's got to bow out.
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Who knows? I think it's all going to be determined by the debates.
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We need a cognitive test. But the Democrats need to just look deeply in the mirror and say, hey, you're fielding a candidate that nobody's going to vote for. That's the problem here. And there's not enough anti-Trump sentiment. And Trump's a genius at flipping his position to get huge swaths of voters. And so you're going to get demolished if you don't hot swap them.
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So lads, what do we want to do here? We want to put 10K and then give it to one of Tim's mates who's stuck or something. How do we do this? We Mr. Beast this? We give 10K to the next time you get coffee if we win? And give it to the barista or something? What should we do?
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I guarantee you a hot swap is coming. I predicted the Trump TV flip, and I predict it now.
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And if you frame it as that, Chamath, then it's even a bigger trouncing, right? Like if you put Biden, if you put Kamala against Trump, then what would the, it would be an even bigger shellacking, yeah? In your mind?
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And listen, Biden hasn't made it to the finish line of his first term. It's obvious to everybody he's in cognitive decline. You put up a candidate who's in cognitive decline, you're going to lose. even against, you know, Trump, who people really don't like. These are the two most unpopular candidates of our lifetime.
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I think that- Oh, he's got a core, but yeah, no, people, the Republicans, including yourself, were looking for a different candidate just months ago. You said Trump was not your preferred candidate and you were all in on DeSantis. So let's not pretend like he was your preferred candidate. He's the remaining candidate.
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There's some, yeah.
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In this, we are in total agreement. Yes, there is no enthusiasm to put somebody in cognitive decline in the White House. All right, listen, we gotta get to the docket. We could talk for hours about Biden, Biden, Biden, Trump, Trump, Trump, and we will. It's gonna be a continuing topic, but let's get to a very full docket here. Breaking news, last night, Tesla shareholders have backed their guy.
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Yes, there was two important votes, measures, that Tesla just had taken with their shareholders. The first was approving Elon's pay package, the $56 billion pay package that was voided by a Delaware judge. We talked about that on episode 164 back in February. And then moving Tesla's incorporation from Delaware to Texas. This is also major.
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Yes, absolutely. We want to be in a 10K sweat with you.
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Remember, we talked last week about the Texas Stock Exchange. Here's the two charts. massive overwhelming support. There were some notable people who dissented. I think Norway's Sovereign Wealth Fund and CalPERS were two of the ones who were voting against it. Tesla share price popped 6% on the news. You don't want to lose Elon at Tesla. That would be really bad.
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So your thoughts, Chamath, on this vote and maybe the move and what that represents.
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Are these real dealers or are these AI news? We had a debate.
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Saks, you have thoughts on this outcome? Is it surprising to you? Not surprising? And then I think the jurisdiction thing is bigger than maybe people are thinking because Delaware has been the standard for incorporating companies, but Elon is putting his companies in Nevada and Texas. We saw the stock exchange last week getting back to move to Texas.
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This does seem like there's something about jurisdiction in the water. What are your thoughts, Sax?
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Yeah, pick a book. Pick a book. Somebody who feels blue collar, who wants to work for us. We need somebody who's a worker. And you have over a million followers now watching this craziness.
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Freedberg, is this a John Galt moment? Is this where capitalism, socialism, and the state collide and people now start thinking, hmm, maybe we need to create a new jurisdiction, a new framework?
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What do you think of this guy, Tim?
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when i don't have to yeah very simple because he would leave uh morals and ethics matter and you want to do the right thing and you want to incentivize capitalism to operate properly and want to incentivize the people who take on the burden of running these companies and the people who voted against it i think people should just make a list of those individuals chamar and they should not do business with that because if somebody is going to double cross you
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They've shown you who they are. These are people who double cross them. They got the benefit. And then they stabbed him in the back.
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Then you're a true scumbag.
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I'm not saying a blacklist, but I would say making a list of people who maybe you want to consider not doing business with is how I would frame it.
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And 10% being the ownership of the company that he gets. Yeah. The pay package was laughed at on CNBC by all the experts. There is no way for him to hit this stuff. If he does hit it, he's getting a fraction of the value of it. And this is why stock is such a valuable device. If employees get stock,
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and the CEO gets stock and everybody in between and retail investors get it and endowments get it and your retirement account gets it, everybody rose in the right direction. Is it perfect? No, people can buy back their stock. They can do a little gaming on the margins, but it is the most pure system we have. Everybody has a share of the company.
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So if you're a socialist, you should actually kind of appreciate how stock works that everybody has a chance to buy it, everybody has a chance to participate. This is the model we should be using for all CEOs, they should all get a massive package. If the stock goes up into the right. It's so obvious. And this was so unfair. Let's see this flipper. I want to see their explanation.
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Yeah, put a stop for $10,000. Put a stop for $10,000.
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This woman is so smug. What is her name? Karen Frost? I don't think she's smug.
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Yeah, they're trying to catch up. They've been behind on venture.
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How does a lawyer make $5 billion? How is that possible?
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When people ask, why does Delaware have this special place that everybody decided Delaware would incorporate? It was because it was predictable. Lawyers felt this was the most predictable jurisdiction that would be the most shareholder-friendly, most shareholder-thoughtful, whatever word you want to use. They would defend the shareholders, and here we are.
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It's becoming a trend. We're having very big discussions about this in the startup community of where to domicile your company, and more to come on this one. Okay, let's keep moving. Apple had a huge announcement this week, Apple has entered the chat, they announced Apple intelligence, get it AI. And they have included a chat GPT integration from open AI.
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This was really, I think, impressive in many ways because people thought Apple was far behind. It was a banger of a demo. A lot of un-Apple-like future-looking demos. So none of these demos that we're going to show are coming to your phone this week. They were really, I think, playing catch-up with Microsoft, and it worked. Stock is up 10%. They added about 300 billion in market cap.
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Now the top three market cap companies are all driven specifically by the perception that AI is going to be the next technological wave. Microsoft, Apple, and Nvidia all cruising around about $3.2 trillion. And this top three keeps flipping back and forth. Apple had past Microsoft and Market Cap. Here's the features. I'll just give you a quick overview of what we're seeing.
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It's added Grammarly-like features. Great product, Grammarly. I'm not an investor, but they added the ability to proof, get grammar help. AI will transcribe and summarize phone calls with permission, obviously double opt-in. It will prioritize notifications and iMessage and email that are super important. You can do smart replies.
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A company where an investor in Superhuman already does this kind of stuff. And they're bringing AI to Siri. And this is going to be the big win in my mind. You're going to be able to say things like you want to order something in DoorDash or Uber Eats or Instacart. And the AI Siri will be able to dip down into apps.
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They're building a whole app AI interface, much like the Rabbit device CEO talked about doing. And I think this means that Apple is going to win the AI consumer. There is a deal with ChatGPT that I'll get your feedback on, gentlemen, in a moment. According to sources, Apple is not paying OpenAI. It's a non-exclusive deal. ChatGPT can be swapped out.
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Apple is also talking to Google about a similar deal. Obviously, it doesn't take a genius to predict that Apple is going to auction off the LLM integration, I think, to the highest bidder. They did that with the search deal. Google pays Apple $20 billion to be the default search engine. That's about 5% of Apple's annual revenue, if you didn't know. And it's all profit, right?
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So this is a huge profit moment. I'm going to pause there for a second before I get into more of this and just get your general reaction, Chamath.
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Freebird, your thoughts on the vision here, at least? And to Chamath's point, Apple used to release dope stuff. fully baked, ready to go. And now we are increasingly see them talking about what's coming next year or at some point. Do you think Apple's going to win the consumer? Do you think Apple's falling behind? Should they have built their own LLM by this point?
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It's clear sacks that right now, to enable these features, you're going to have to have a pretty solid device They announced here at the keynote at WWDC that you need to have an M1 chip or better, iPhone 15 or better. So, and having all this local data is a huge advantage for Apple. They've got your messages, your phone, your calendar, your photos.
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your app behavior, the data inside of your wallet, all of this gives them a huge, huge advantage. So I guess the question is, do you think this renews the Apple franchise and people start upgrading their phones again to get all these new features, David Sachs?
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might have to there's i cannot believe we've just blackjacked that is unbelievable well tim have a good day all right tim you are a legend everybody follow tim on instagram let's get him to 10 million let's get i mean you have a future in broadcasting you are going to make millions you you went from the farmhouse oh yeah literally and here we go now you're going to be running a casino
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It turns out Apple has addressed this head on. They hear the concerns and much like when you share a photo or you share your location, it's going to ask you over and over again, do you want to let this app do this? So they're aware that this is an issue. They brought up privacy every single time, but people don't trust open AI and they do trust Apple. So this is strange bedfellows to be sure.
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Chamath, your thoughts.
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Yeah. Well, when you're behind, you know, you behave differently than when you're ahead and you have your monopoly. Freeberg, you wanted to add anything here before we move on to the next story? Okay. In related news, OpenAI... has hit a run rate, and this is kind of stunning, of $3.4 billion. That means they've roughly doubled their monthly revenue in the past six months or so.
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These are not official numbers. OpenAI is denying them. But here's a chart that somebody put together based on all the different leaks and approximations of what OpenAI is making. The reason this makes no sense, this chart, and it shows a year, and then it shows a month, a month, a month, a month, is because there's been different leaks at different points in time.
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But just to normalize this, in 2022, for all of 2022, before... They really had a lot of customers, 28 million, and now on a $3.4 billion run rate. Again, it's a pretty stunning number if it's true.
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And so if we were to even look at the number of people who work there, 770, if you put that at 500,000 a person, some engineers getting a couple of million, some people maybe getting less, they're probably only got a half billion dollars in salaries a year. Who knows what they're spending on the infrastructure for this?
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If you were to do evaluation on this, everybody knows they sold a bunch of shares in secondary at around 80 billion, which means they're trading at, if these numbers are true, 25 times for revenue, which is close to what Nvidia is trading at right now. Obviously, they're two very different businesses. So your thoughts on this as a SaaS company?
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Obviously, the majority of this revenue is consumption-based. Some portion of it is SaaS-based, reoccurring, like subscriptions we pay for At launch, my venture fund, we pay for 6,000 a year to have all 20, 25 people on ChatGPT as a corporate account. Maybe it's 250, 300 a year per person. So what do you think of this business, Saks, and how fast it's growing?
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Obviously, some of it's API consumption-based, not reoccurring. Some of it is reoccurring.
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I think you should have Tim's blackjack. You should have your own brand. We could build a whole brand on this. Tim.Nacki on Insta. T-I-M dot N-A-K-I.
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So you would compare this business to Amazon Web Services, Google Cloud, Azure. That's really the business here.
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We'll find out eventually. Chamath, your thoughts on OpenAI's surging revenue?
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Yeah. And like we said, that 15K we won. That's yours for you and the missus. Go on vacation. No, no, no, no. We said it. We said it. We want you to do something. Go with it. We're already cashed up. You take that 15K. You take the missus out. You get some first class tickets. You meet them up in Italy. And then let's go. That's it. Come to the summit.
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The average revenue per user, ARPU, per year is single digits, maybe it hits double digits, as opposed to the United States where it could be triple digits, right?
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Okay, Freeberg, you I don't know if you got to see Sonny's talk liquidity last week, but he talked about how many of the CIOs CEOs are looking for open source solutions here. 80% of them want to go open source, they don't want a proprietary model to invest in. But the best model right now is a proprietary model. So what do you think about open as revenue surge? Is it sustainable? Or are there 20?
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Better open source projects that are going to be death by 20 open source project cuts? and schmucks general feeling here that, hey, it's not ready for primetime yet. It will be but we're in the AI dial up era, to use an analogy here, hey, you can see the promise, but it kind of sucks in terms of reliability, maybe open AI is AOL.
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We could play some. Oh, we could have a whole session.
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You do have to do that stuff. Yeah, so we pulled the source.
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Yeah, you got to come to Orland Summit for sure. Yeah, get the misses. Take the 15K. Two first class tickets. Get yourself set up in a nice hotel and we will see you there. All right, everybody. Let's get to the docket. Well done. Tim.
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It's the same thing for the enterprise, Chamath. You can just sign up and for 20 bucks a month, you can have your whole organization on it.
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So we took the time to set up the corporate. It's really easy. And then anybody with your domain can sign up and let you track it. But it doesn't consolidate. That's what I'm looking for. Chamath is the ability to consolidate all the searches in one place and everybody can share their searches. But like I said, the application layer is doing right in some ways.
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Definitely makes everybody bionic. I agree.
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If there's an internal tool and an internal people are really getting dependent on this, and they use it constantly. We're on our investment team meeting, we're evaluating a company for real estate brokers, we're evaluating a company for therapists and like tools and SaaS products for those type of people.
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And when I asked them, well, how many what's the total addressable market, boom, three or four researchers and analysts on my team are doing that search, finding sources and saying there are this many therapists, this many social workers, this many real estate brokers, as many buyers, And then I'm saying, well, did you source that? And they're like, yeah, of course.
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And one of them was like, well, I asked Claude. I asked Gemini. I asked ChatGPT. I asked them all for sources. I cross-referenced them. So they have three of these things open. And so just everybody's knowledge level goes up, but you do have to check it because one out of four facts is probably wrong or cited wrong. And so it's going to be... I think one out of four is about the right number.
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Well, think about it. If somebody's salary is $100,000 and these cost $1,000 to have five of them, of course I'd pay for five.
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Consumption and metered API usage, yeah. That enterprise is really powerful.
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Anyway, this is going to make people bionic. I think all organizations will have the same number of people for the next couple of years. And then just individuals will get better and better at their jobs. And so efficiency is going to go way up. Speaking of efficiency, the market is ripping. We're going to get a little macro here in three acts. Inflation has been broken, I think it's safe to say.
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We're down at 3.X, 3.3, lower than expected. And hiring wages are surging and stocks are surging. So let's go through it here and get the besties take on the vibe session.
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Yeah, I agree. I disagree as well. Disagree with it. Let me go through the numbers and then you can all disagree. That's how that's how this works, folks. Inflation print came in at 3.3%, lower than expected. Here's your 10-year chart. Super easy to explain what's happening here. Rates were low for a long time. Inflation cruising at about 2%. And then lunatic spending during COVID.
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And we added $8 trillion to the national debt. And then Biden added a bunch. Everybody getting those STEMI checks and PPP loans. And so if you look at inflation here, we were just cruising along at 2%. Massive spike up to 9% year-over-year inflation. And now coming back down to 3.X%. And the question is, can we get to a two handle? And the rates went up faster than ever in history.
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Here's the Fred chart. You can see there in, and this goes from the 80s. You see that massive spike when they tried to break the back of inflation previously. So this is the fastest ever gone up. And here we go. The common sentiment here is that savings has been burned off and people are starting to have debt. And so now we are in act two, the lowest unemployment rate of our lifetime continues.
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If you believe those numbers, some people do, some people don't. Labor Department reported 272,000 new jobs in May, smashing, crushing the 190,000 estimate.
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uh and then act three average hourly wages up a massive four percent from last year at 35 an hour that also topped estimates so if inflation is at 3.x and hourly earnings are at 4.x maybe consumers will start feeling better about the economy eventually they obviously uh have been pretty shocked by that nine percent inflation and only four percent growth here's your chart from fred
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of the hourly earnings of all employees. And you can feel pretty good about that. Everybody's wages keep going up. The question is, do they go up faster than inflation? Okay, so there's my framing of the situation. Freiburg, tell me what I got right. Tell me what I got wrong.
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And it is true for the federal government. just to point out here what you're saying, the goal was to, in fact, increase the interest rate to cool the economy, right? Which they got too late, but that was the goal. That was the explicit goal was to cool the economy.
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Yeah, you know what happened was somebody emailed me and they're like, hey, that's my mate that you talked about. He's a big fan of the show. It turns out, you know, this is the thing about influencers now. This is the thing about this micro-celebrity stuff. We all know each other by default, right? Yeah. So he was just slid into the DMs. There's definitely camaraderie. Yeah, that was awesome.
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Yeah, that's- I'm saying this is very hard on people. Chamath, what's your take on this? We have a slowing GDP growth. We have inflation going from nine down to three. We have wages going up 4%. How do you make sense of all this? Do you feel like... Sorry, Freebrook, are you saying we're going to have stagflation or... We have stagflation right now, definitely.
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So here is total job openings. To your point, Shamath, they're getting burned off, we peaked at 12 million. Again, if you believe the numbers are not there, they obviously have some value. And we've burned off a ton of those. So sex, what's your non political, nonpartisan take first principles of what's going on with the economy?
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That's awesome. I'm so glad he won. And, you know, he basically got smashed in his DMs, like a thousand people DMed him. Oh, you're on all in. They're bugging out to you on all in. And so, yeah, I just said, hey, would you do a hand? Would you do your live hand with us? And then I didn't I didn't I wanted to clear with you guys before I put our money on it or whatever.
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Betting markets had a 70% chance of two rate cuts before Powell spoke. Afterwards, now it's one rate cut. Dow, record high again. This past week, and NASDAQ record highs each of the last month for the last four months. So the market, putting aside individual stocks, has broken records almost every month for the last three.
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NVIDIA, Microsoft, and Apple.
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But I couldn't do that because I wanted to surprise you.
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And to remind everybody, maximum employment, stable prices, moderate long-term interest rates is the mandate for the Federal Reserve. They're supposed to be independent. Famously, Reagan pushed Volcker to get rate cuts. And there is a lot of politics involved in this. And so legacy does seem like The organizing principle here, I would agree with Chamath and Sachs, that it's legacy.
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But there's always political pressure here, as you can see. Elizabeth Warren is trying to push him to make cuts for obvious reasons.
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And then there's a letter writing like Elizabeth Warren's doing here, right? So the pressure can be there. The question is, do they bow to it? Right, sex?
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My position is I think he might have already stuck the landing. I think like the fact that we've burned off all that savings to your point, Shamath, that people are going back to work and that these businesses are doing fantastic and efficient because of AI and other gains. It feels like all the record that he, I think he's stuck the landing already.
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They're trying to go back to work, but the jobs don't exist. Yeah. I think they're going to take jobs. They just might get the job they want. And that's what I think people have to recognize is they have to take a job and they may not be the one that they want working from home.
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We'll find out. All right, everybody. This has been another amazing episode of the All In podcast.
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Okay, best wishes to Peter and his sister. Help out if you can. And you're in our thoughts and our prayers.
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been busy having some adventure, Sax. Seems like you were busy last week. Anything to report from your side of the world?
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So it's exhausting to be against Trump for eight years. Like, this has been exhausting. I think they've exhausted folks.
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What were some of the greatest hits? What did he hit on? Did he hit on low pressure from showers? Did he... Because I know he's got like some things he hits on that are relatable. Was it all like... specific crypto topics, tech topics?
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I mean, they're very good looking. Huge IQ. And I mean, look at him.
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Chamath, your thoughts before this goes on for an hour?
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Freeberg, your thoughts on all this?
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No, I know. Just big picture. I want to know why Chamath didn't wear a tie.
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I've never seen a steel cage match.
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For real, dude. You would make a great professional wrestler. I mean that. Listen, that's the last thing I want to do.
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Well, we missed out on John Cena, though.
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and that's another thing that's probably really important but not working out would be way funnier you going up on the ropes and falling over scorpion on the ground threw a table, ruined Rey Mysterio's whole match. But they'd be like, yeah, this is perfect. This is actually way better than what we thought was going to happen.
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He got brand new Air Force Ones. He wasn't going to ruin them for that.
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I'm trying to get my views up. My bad, my bad. Shut out camp! No, my brother called me and I was like, what are you doing? He's like, oh, I'm cooking up some Sandhill Crane. And I was like, what do you mean? He's like, yeah, it's the ribeye of the sky. It's like one of the nicest cuts of meat that you can buy this side of Mississippi.
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So now he's gotten into exotic meats, and apparently you can buy it online. It's super, super rare, very expensive, and it's delicious. Is it legal? I think it's legal.
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Yeah, this feels like something personal.
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That's a banger of a show, bro.
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that that to me has been just unbelievable just incredible random people have been hitting me up like from high school i haven't talked in like 10 years no way just being like bro just put on the special crazy yeah like didn't know what to expect like but we're going through the same thing right now like i don't even know this about them like they're doing it's like popped up within like ivf community forums oh that's fire like some people send me links where they're like yo there's this form people it's like a hundred comments long just people being like this was our like he's just talking about our experience oh that's so cool so it's fire yeah yeah
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They had to go through some shit.
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It's real.
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a word yeah oh that's just which i thought was a fire alvin but the amount of people being like yo where can i get this shout out to our mate man shout out have you gotten those messages people like yo i need that i was like all right i've been sending them links i've just been i've been i've been lining them up that's just that's an age difference for sure because everybody hitting me up is just like man i went through this it's like i wear the pants for a million
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I think it was right around like 2015, 2016.
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All that converged.
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That's... Everyone... It was an open secret. Everyone was like, yeah, this guy's a creep. Like, Courtney Love's like, yeah, don't go to his hotel room.
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you would hope not we gotta look into it you would hope not yeah there's a lot of new stars in Hollywood yeah we should have told him that like hey you don't have to do all the DEI stuff just stop the yeah and that's fine with us yeah
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That was kind of crazy. If Brandon does that face, that's how you know it's David.
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yeah bro look at that museum and thinking her mom's crazy constantly constantly i told you my mom took my nephew to the natural history museum she's like none of these exist literally we went and little ollie was like i saw a dinosaur at the at the museum and my mom was like what did you really see and he was like i saw a reenactment of dinosaur bones and she's like what did you really see he was like i saw a plaster mold of what they thought dinosaur bones would have looked like
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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And my mom was like, see, there you go. They've never discovered a dinosaur before prior to 1826. And everyone's like, yeah, dinosaurs aren't real, whatever. Ruins the dinner. Then my mom leans over and goes, but dragons. No way. She's like, dragons are in the Bible. Look into it. I love your mom. Our mom should go to the National History Museum.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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I swear to God.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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What's the trick? And I was like, Derek, this is an ad. And he goes, no.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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But she's going to start asking you questions soon. Which is even better. But then you're going to have to come up with answers. Nah, you just make shit up. I have no problem making shit up. Are dinosaurs real? 100% real.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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They weren't sugary enough for the box.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Oh, just phenomenal. A way better cigarette. I never understood that. I feel like, why do you need your cigarette to do extra things?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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I gave it up for Lent. I'm glad you brought this up. Bullshit. I gave it up for the Lord.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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I threw it away. I watched him throw it away. Really? I really did watch him throw it away. Fuck, I was trying to correct him.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Miles fished them out of the garbage. Sweet, you really gave up sugar for Lent. For Lent, come on, dude. And you only have to give up one thing? You can give up multiple. You can give up multiple things. Wow. I knew a guy that used to inflict pain. He said, I have nothing to give up, so I put a little bead in my shoe so I feel pain throughout the day.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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If your forehead's too big. But yeah, I didn't get to do Ash Wednesday. I missed out on it. We were in Austin. I would have gone.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Okay? So I'm just following the Lord. Shout out to the Lord, bro.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Well, I guess if you are an atheist or a secular person, you could argue that, oh, all of these religious dogmas just come out of basically the same exact thing. So you're saying that the morality is internal before religion. If God doesn't exist, which I think would be his argument, that there is no God.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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So therefore, the rules that are laid out within Judaism, Islam, Christianity are just human beings creating what they think the social structure should be.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Well, secular people might lean on like natural law and say like there are certain things that violate what it means to be like a fruitful human. So like infringing on someone else's life or like sexual violence, stuff like that. So like we know that internally as a species that that is not good. So you could come to that conclusion outside of the DNA.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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But keep going, keep going. Or like Alex O'Connor. He'd be a good person to... Right, he's great. But he popularized this idea. I forget what philosopher came up with it, but I think it's ethical emotivism. So basically it's this idea that you can basically just say like... Something that happens, you could say, oh, boo that thing. So like murder. You're not saying like murder is right or wrong.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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You're not putting like a truth value on it. You're just saying boo murder. So like your emotional reaction to murder to something is what justifies your moral compass. And then ideally, whatever the majority feels about a specific thing then creates the social fabric for how that's enlisted into law.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Well, within our own civil society, we're not. But then when it comes to war, that's not murder. So there are these little spaces where murder can exist. Right. It's justified self-defense. And what if it's a duel? No, then if both parties are consenting, then it's not murder.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Yeah. And if they're both consenting to do it, assuming there's no coercion, then...
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Yeah, it's a fire philosophical debate. Like the first day in my philosophy class in college, this is one of the questions they brought up.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Same-sex incest. Yeah. Is that unethical?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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And you could argue on a biological basis that humans feel that it's wrong. Why? Like, through, like, pheromones. So, like, a person would be more attracted to, like, a dissimilar person than to a relative based off of, like, pheromone levels and stuff like that. Okay. So, like, for the reproductive health of a society, most people would go to diversify their genetic lineage.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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You feel like you could get some oxygen in there. It's the bend. It gets clogged right there. It's not aerodynamic. We need to hire a contractor. You've got to straighten it out. That's why they all get nose jobs.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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I think there is something innate. I do think that there's a biological natural law. And as someone that believes in God, I would like to believe that there is some type of order that God put into the universe that people can come to know without God. But then additionally, if you come to follow some type of faith background, that those things are also instilled.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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But then I also think that those things get, like, antiquated over time. Like, the Levitical laws of, like, eating pork and stuff probably existed in a specific time frame where pork was very dangerous. Right. And then as time has gone on, it's no longer as dangerous. I'm sorry, Jews and Muslims. Yeah. And Ethiopian Christians, apparently.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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There's, like, a bunch of people that don't eat pork. Wow. Which, you start to look at how many people don't eat pork.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Yeah, maybe they're onto something. Um, but then I think like, I don't know, I think all the faiths that have persisted probably have a lot of roots of the same things that help society prosper.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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To a point. But we also live in a non-theocratic society. Yes. So like, as someone that lives in America that likes religious freedom, I also don't want to be bound by the mandates of any specific religion.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Whether that be Islam or Christianity or Judaism. Right. Because it infringes on your personal freedom.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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It would be nice if there was a Catholic country that existed that had some type of Catholic theocratic laws that if I so chose, I could move to. But I like to live in America where people can practice freely whatever they want.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Right. I could also argue this is, I think, a slippery slope argument. Like, it seems fallacious on its onset to say, like, the logical conclusion of XYZ philosophy is decimation of a population. Because you could say the inverse, that, you know, the logical conclusion of, like, a hyper-religious society is going to be, like, oppression of women and gay people getting murdered.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Right, you can make the exact same argument in, yeah, just an oppressive way. So to me, it seems kind of misguided. I don't know if that was intention, but I think it's framed poorly.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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And this is from someone whose parents had seven kids. But I'm pretty sure even prior to pastoralist and agrarian societies, people were having three or four kids. Women were having their periods at 18 or 19. Oh, they had it way later, you said? Yeah, they were having it later. And so in hunter-gatherer societies, they still have them later.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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And then typically, women would breastfeed the whole time. They were admitting prolactin and estrogen so that they weren't able to get pregnant for longer periods of time.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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You know Magic Johnson? That should be the marketing for Netflix. We should do a billboard. Like an IVF thing. Just like your face. Shut up. Shut up, Mark, you piece of shit.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Like, that's a really interesting point. And I talked to an anthropologist that said, like, it's actually potentially more beneficial for children to have more individualized time with the parent.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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So, like, having multiple kids really close together could be detrimental for the development of kids that giving them more undisputed attention for, like, four or five years is actually better for, like, the survival of the species.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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And this is in hunter-gatherer societies where people are just, like, eating off the land and living off the land.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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So I think about this question a lot. Like, what does it mean to actually be human and what is best for humans? And I think people go back and they go like, oh, like 2,000 years ago. But, like, that's still, like, a very recent development in humanity. So, like, is it potential we go 10,000 years ago? Like, Homo sapiens have been walking around the way we are for, like, what, 100,000 years? Yeah.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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So, like, 2,000 years is just a blip. So, like, have humans existed for most of the time in the way that we were 10,000 years ago, living, walking around, having sex, eating a mango? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, is that what most of humanity has been? So then when it comes to, like, moral frameworks, like, should we be trying to go back farther than we're really looking at it?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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you know what i mean wait explain that like should we be going back to like okay what are humans really supposed to be doing okay so like oh we should have a bunch of kids because that's what people did a thousand years ago well it's like well actually that is a blip in the overall scope where for most of human history people are having three or four yeah once we started farming yeah then we start going let's have seven so you have societal explosion but also you need people to work the farm the land
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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oh wait is Adams even still of course that's the boy every other week he's getting arrested nah I saw him at Zero Bond fingering chicks the other day yo shout out Adams bro that's the boy he'd be going out I've ran into him at a fucking record room yeah is he married say what he's Batman what are you talking about like
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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We want our presidents to be married. Mayors?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Solicitation of a contribution by a foreign national and bribery. Yep.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Okay, Miles. And when you were in high school... Don't ask me.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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I think that's what Sager said.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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You got to fill people in for anyone who didn't listen to Patreon.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Oh, it's like go-karts? We put the governor on that shit.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Yes, the United States does sell F-35 Lightning II fighter jets to other countries. Don't do that to me, Mark.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Even if they did communicate it, I feel like people wouldn't believe it.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Imagine they put out a news headline, the Israel Times, and they're like, Israel stops terror attack in America. Everyone would be like, yeah, all right, of course you did.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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And so the second the economy gets tight, everyone's like, all right, where's the money going?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Now it feels like it's going too far. But then you're asking Jews to defend everything ever.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Then you're battling the emotional volatility of a populace rather than the logical coherence of the leadership.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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But then you would hope, like, okay, we're dealing with, like, the logical leaders that are going to support what's best for their people despite them not knowing what's best for them.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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For example, like... I mean, if you're China... then all of a sudden your cards open up way more. Because while you have control, a little TikTok and control, not necessarily how people feel from the messaging you tell them, but rather what you subvert into the content of the app. Okay, what about America?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Or what America did in the Cold War with modern art or with rock music. What was the rock music thing? Just putting it into Soviet countries, basically. Putting it into the Soviet Union, sneaking in albums and sneaking in Western influence. Or then even just promoting modern art. Look at how free we are. And you're able to then win this culture war and the soft power. People are like, man,
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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man, America's pretty cool. We're not as rigid as over here. You know, they're not totalitarian, you know? And so with that, you can change the hearts of people and then get them to not fight as fervently for the country that they're technically named.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Like Larry Davis, he's American, right? Seinfeld's American. You need an Israeli, you know?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Hasid. Yeah. Really? Yes. I feel like, yeah. And I don't know if it's propaganda or what, but, like, you see Hasidic Jews pop up on Twitter or, like, on Instagram, and they're just killing them, just going off in the comments.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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They're good. He got assigned from the Israeli government. He's like, yeah, go look at these guys. College girls are gay. I can't get Amsterdam or something? Like, no, no, no, you go over there. How lucky is he? He could be in a bomb shelter.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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That's not what it says. That's not what it says.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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It sounds like Smegma. It's just chicken.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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It's not good because it actually tastes good. What is that?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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No, no, no. It's actually the exact opposite. You get more energy? When you're on a fast. Once you get into autophagy, you actually get more energy. Because now, if you go back to the biological times, you're trying to find animals. You know what I mean? Ah, so you're more focused. Exactly. I'm going to be a cranky bitch. I'm going to let you know that.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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You're constantly digesting food. Your brain's getting smaller. It's shrinking. Yeah.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Yeah, you can't reason people out of a position they didn't reason into.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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not everybody is strong yeah people try to do this during like George Floyd and shit where they were like oh black people like actually technically cops kill you guys the same as other people how'd that make you feel like shit it's like you go you don't go oh those are the stats well I'll and all lives matter like come on bro you know
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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you know i'm right because it does require a lot of like uh and like empathy to be able to be like hey i feel for what black people have gone through historically and currently in america but also i feel for what cops are going through yep and it's hard to feel like oh i understand what you know ukraine's going through but i also understand what russia's going through i understand what gaza's going through i also understand what israel is going yeah do you think it would help if like a prominent jewish person came out and was like hey you guys don't understand we've been at
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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The whole way Al kept on leaning over.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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The best airline you've ever seen.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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But then the question is, what if they can't find a justification for why America needs to support Israel? Is it a necessity for the state to then create propaganda? Or do they just say, hey, unfortunately, we don't have anything?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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I was talking about physical.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Okay.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Oh, it's great. It's just, like, it's nice because it's sports, but you're able to, like, interact with the athletes in an honest way. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, if you go to, like, an NBA game, you can't talk all the shit you want to talk. Yeah. Whereas, like, with these guys, you can go crazy. They talk shit, too.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Yeah, I mean, I guess that's the point is that there isn't really. Yeah. Because Americans don't know why there's all this steak.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Mm-hmm. Yeah, when I have to pay taxes, I unsubscribe from HBO.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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I just look to see what's going on. But then HBO will send me an email and be like, you watched these shows this past year. I go, oh, that's... Give me my propaganda. That's a good point.
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HBO, that's a good point. And then HBO will set up a terror squad from Netflix to shoot up my house. I go, whoa, we got to get into it.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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I mean, that is my evil statecraft. If I was like the Machiavellian king of Israel, you prop up Hamas terror cells in America. Okay. Secretly, surreptitiously, through some other country, some type of proxy war. And then they cause domestic terrorism within the United States.
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But, like, I don't know. If I was an evil, you know, world builder, that's what I would do.
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We did. We got a mentalist at the last Mary Lou show. Okay. Oh, it was the best. Wait, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell me what happened. This guy, Josh, the foodie magician. Okay. Which also, can we just point out, a lot of people think that Jews have magic. Yeah. Which I don't think that's true. Okay. But every famous magician is Jewish. What? So you guys do have to answer for that also.
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It's just, there's a lot. Copperfield, David Blaine, this guy, the foodie magician. Houdini. Houdini, yeah. Infamously. We love magic. We love magic. You can get us some back on your side, man. So I don't think Jews have secret powers, but you guys are the closest to having secret powers. If we just look at magicians. Whoa. I'll take it. Whatever.
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But he went up on the show and, like, guessed, like, all this crazy, like, he, like, knew the restaurant that I like, my favorite restaurant, wrote it down on a thing, revealed it. Oh, that's awesome. And then had it on an Instagram post from two months ago, like, the name of the restaurant, everyone else's things. He guessed, like, some girl's, like, dog.
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And then all the black comics on the show were just fucking furious. Just watching the show, just from the back, just like, what the fuck is going on?
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Did you see this? Click it. Kanye goes on Twitter. He's like, guys, I'm playing another podcast with Joe Rogan. Here you go. And then Rogan tweets out and goes, yeah, it's not me.
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Like, some people are pointing out, like, oh, it's fake text messages and da-da-da-da. Yeah. And then, like, he put the whole thing together. There's also another.
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Maybe. I bet you he was trying to get on, and then it wasn't really lining up, and so then he put it out in the universe.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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I mean, yeah, I guess that would get me.
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Well, that's where Joe's the best.
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Is that like you tell him something new and he goes, I'd love it. I'd want to know about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas Alex over here. That shit is gay.
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But you act like that's new. You match all the time anyway.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
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Playing tennis every day, very white, but having a whole week for your birthday very black.
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Well, look, here's the reality.
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This is one of the quotes he said. I'm pleading with LeBron James as a father. Stop this. In regards to Bronny's play time in the NBA. Right.
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Yeah.
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And that's what I believe Stephen A is saying, where it's like, he's not ready. Yeah. And then LeBron's coming at him like, yo, as a father, stop talking about my kid.
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We just don't have commentary for hedge funds. We should. We should. We should have a Stephen A for hedge funds.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
And every week, they just go through all of them. They're like, yo, this trade, this person hired this guy. That was fucked up. They got money from this person. That'd be fire. We should just have a watchdog that just goes off on all the financial issues.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
Yeah. And this is, I feel like the second thing in the past week that I've heard LeBron saying about the media. What'd he say? Like he was talking about this thing with, uh, who was it? Uh, Anthony Edwards, I think, where he was like, or I forget, uh, Tatum, where he was like, why do you want to be the face of the league?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
So you can just get criticized all the time, get criticized every day, day in, day out, everything you do picked apart by the media. Yeah. So it feels like at this point in his career, he's like, I should be beyond this, but I'm still getting nitpicked at every single turn.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
It's Monday night raw. It's raw.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
But there's a moment where you get thrown and you're like. And then AJ comes in and you're like, all right, nice.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
And what's the most interesting take is saying that the, one of the greatest of all time is actually not the greatest.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
He's like, yo, I look at what I've done. And that probably fuels you when you're like 28. Yeah. But when you're 41, you just, and you've already done everything. You've won all the records of the lead score. Like you've done everything. And you're like, finally, this will shut them up.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
And then you're like, fuck this.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
And then I wonder if there's even a part of him that's like, I've been subjected to this my entire life. My entire personal life picked apart. I can't live in privacy.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
And I wonder if he feels like a little bit of a sense of like, yo, I'm putting my son through this terrible bullshit I put myself through. And he's a great player, but also like, we're good. Like I did this cause I'm, I came from nothing in Akron, Ohio. My kid doesn't necessarily have to do this. He really doesn't have to go through it.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
If he doesn't want to, but like now he's going to be subjected to it even more scrutinized. I was compared to Jordan and now my kid is going to be compared to me.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
And through no fault of his own, like just by becoming this virtuoso at this thing, your kids are going to want to emulate you.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
I want to be a comic just because my dad told funny stories. So imagine your dad's the greatest ever. You're like, yeah, you want to take a part in that lineage. Yeah.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
I'm telling you, it's raw out there, bro.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
It's tough.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
It's raw. That's amazing. What's up, guys? World's fastest dates ever, okay? Don't fast forward, all right? We're going to be at Mary Lou in New York City, March 25th. I'm going to be in Portland, Maine, April 27th. I'm also going to be in Bangor, Maine. on the 26th, and then a bunch of other dates that are going to be announced very shortly.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
Oh, yeah. Yeah, because they're treating him just like another player, probably. There's probably a little ego. I'm sure there's ego. But compared to the league, it's like, yeah, different level.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
I wonder if he has told him in private. Ooh. I wonder if he's like, hey, just chill with all that. Yeah. And then didn't chill. Yeah, it's possible.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
We got Atlanta, we got Charleston, we got Indianapolis, we got Portland, Oregon will be later, Buffalo, Philly, and Raleigh, all coming up that will be available on my website, themarkhagnon.com, and we'll see you guys there. Thanks so much.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
Oh, what do we got? Ukraine agrees to U.S.-led ceasefire plan if Russia accepts. So real quick, just on this.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
This is nice.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
And it's kind of a... I feel like where I sit is like a dumb position sometimes because I feel so jaded by political discourse that I just am like...
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
wait and see yeah which i've said before but like it's kind of a cop-out fence-sitting answer but at the same time i'm like is the ceasefire good yeah it's like all right it's good yeah but then all of a sudden part of ukraine gets absorbed and you're like is that good that doesn't seem good and then soviet union reorganized you're like is that like i don't you know what i mean so it's like until it actually affects me on like a personal basis or like the american society at large yeah i kind of try to reserve judgment where i'm like just wait and see and which isn't a good position necessarily from like a broadcasting standpoint you know i think if people want to know what
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
Looks good, honestly. Yeah. The other fans that were there were awesome because we were with the hardcore fans. And tell me their reactivity. What are they? Going crazy.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
And they're talking shit. They're like, oh, we're on the road to WrestleMania. Just get ready after WrestleMania. It's going to suck. Everyone's got their own directorial cuts of what should happen. Love it. There was one dude in the very front. So everyone that bought a front row seat got a commemorative chair to take home with them.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
The CIA killed JFK, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then someone's going to be like, well, did you know there's actually a crazy guy named Lee Harvey Oswald? And everyone's going to be like, no way.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
That's what we want to know. And then even if the truth comes out, then people go, oh, we can't trust the authority of where the truth came from. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like you kind of see with like alien bubbles where people are like, oh, aliens are real. Everyone's like, no, you're crazy. And then everyone's like, no, aliens are definitely real.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
And then eventually the government's going to be like, yeah, aliens are real. And people are going to be like, this is a psyop. This is trying to make like global control. These aliens are fake. Yeah.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
it's actually underwater type shit yeah like you go from oh aliens are real they're covering it up to then oh they're obviously flouting aliens to trick us yeah so it's like i think it just shifts form just due to the subversion of authority it's like not yeah i don't know if it changes people need storytelling and they need uh a search for truth and there's always like these threads of truth that exist within all these conspiracies that people want to tie on to god damn yeah dog i just want to know the world isn't as bad as
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
And there's a guy in the very front in a wheelchair. Oh, no. And they were like, do you want your chair? And he was like, yeah.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
and they were like all right we'll take it he's like i can't i'm in a wheelchair and so now the management and msg is like take the chair he's like i i want it but i can't can you mail it to me and the guy's like no i can't mail it to you so now they're like trying to hang it on the back of his electric wheelchair it's like a whole thing he's there with his dog the dog's barking at everyone wheelchair with a dog dude that's fine yeah he was like a like a husky he was mushing he was flying
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
You never see that. The disabled Eskimo has fire. What was your favorite match?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
CM Punk's sitting in the cage as people are leaving. He was the last one to leave. I think he was just sitting there the whole time, just milking it for the next 35 minutes.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1
Oh, I mean, taking a suplex off the top of the cage. Nah, crazy. It was insane. Yeah. Just the way the crowd reacts. I didn't realize how hard the canvas is. It's like a hard... I thought it would be springy. Yeah, you should see how hard the floor is.
Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
Aggressive on the people like Garrison.
Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
Yeah.
Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
There was just no way this story was going to end without somebody faking their own death.
Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
What a snitch ass lawyer.
Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
That's where they fucked up. Your lawyer has to ride for you.
Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
But like, I would like to know how things fucking shake up.
Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
That's a better suggestion, thank you David.
Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
You gotta go on a run, go talk to your neighbor, go pet a goat, you know.
Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
God. Wow. How do you feel at the end of this, David? Yeah, David, how are you doing? This is your first experience on our show. What's up? How's the vibe? I honestly don't know.
Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
David, do you have anything you want to plug for the listeners?
Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
It's different than this. And it reminded me I need to set my fantasy basketball lineup. So thank you, sir.
Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
It's time.
Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
A very, very small boat. Yeah. Barely a boat.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
This Is My Deal Here, Wade
Maybe he has, like, good snacks in the car while you sit and wait.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
This Is My Deal Here, Wade
Hey, Max. Welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Fan. Hey, David.
CreepCast
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And someone going, your wife looking real pretty in that truck, boy.
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You talk to a woman at a party and everything's okay. You call her 12 times at 2 in the morning and everyone loses their minds. Do you want to help me? Do you want to help me set up my webcam in between a vending machine? You place a security camera outside of your building and everything's fine because it's all part of the plan. It's simple.
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Big city boy thinking he's been coming down to this here swamp, you hear, see, and thinking he can't get by, you see. But if old Mr. Wellers sees, then, oh.
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When Mr. Wellers gets his universal donor blood type from Pennsylvania, see, it's a good season around here, you see.
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You've not said Mr. Weller's name and he's come for your blood, boy.
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He that sows the wind reapeth the whirlwind, boy, and you've kicked against the pricks one too many times for Mr. Weller's...
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Hernandez, please tell me you've come to give me good news.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
In fact, for once, I'm here to help you out. Sort of. What does that mean? Remember the night you graffitied my house? I nodded. I told you I'd consider giving you advice on how to succeed in our game. Well, the time has come. I'm giving you more than advice. See? You're no fun in jail. I've seen the evidence they have on you. You're going away for a long time.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
I don't want that, so I'm granting you a second chance to keep playing.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
I'm going to leave this knife with your fingerprints on in the car. You'll think you stabbed the cops and made a run for it. I'm going to remove your handcuffs and let you make a run for it. You'll have a 30-minute head start before I call in on the radio.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
A change of clothes, new shoes, and a map. Nearest town is 10 miles west. Better hurry. Remember, in 30 minutes, I'm calling it in.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
And if you don't do it, just play a different game, I guess.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Hashtag fuck David King. Xander, you brilliant bastard. Go get your girl. We're coming for you, David. Thousands of these. Almost all saying the same thing. How does it feel to have people rooting for you?
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
If you didn't- if you don't want him here, then come kill him.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
So, Xander. How would you like to proceed? You're running the show here.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Send Katie forward and leave! sorry i don't have a guarantee that you won't release all the information anyway come on out here and we'll discuss my terms like hell i am david looked to his partner and his partner used his free arm to punch katie in the side she cried out
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Look how you've changed. Your hair looks good. You should always dye it darker. So stoic now. Confident. Being on the run has changed you. I guess all we had to do was increase the minimum required effort was go on the run, huh?
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
So hostile. What's your first term? He leaves. Okay.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
So, you got a gun after all. Didn't see that part in your post. Relax. I'm just making sure I can read in peace.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Now, I don't have to worry about you running off into the dark warehouse. As fun as hide-and-seek sounds, I don't have the time. You know, when I found your post, I thought I stumbled across some sort of therapy story that you were putting up. But it was so much better. You really have surprised me. You've grown and changed and tried to beat me. but you haven't changed enough.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
I can see in your face and your trembling hands you are still you, Xander. You've changed your exterior, but inside you have the same motivations and weaknesses. He tighted his grip on Katie again. I know your next term is for me to let Katie go, so I'm going to skip your turn, and I know you would prefer that she remain in my custody rather than getting shot, so I suggest you put your gun down.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Good choice. Have you realized why you're here yet?
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
You think you're here to save Katie, but you aren't. She's been gone for a year now, and you've only built up memories of her. The Katie you knew is dead, but not even that Katie is the reason you're here right now. No. No. You gave up on a happily ever after with Katie long ago. This isn't a hero's quest to save the princess. This is a revenge assault on the dragon.
CreepCast
I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
This isn't about saving her. This is about outsmarting me. Keeping Katie safe and sound is just result. So, in that sense... You and I are the same now. It's about outsmarting the other one. You outsmarted one simply living life and progressed to defending yourself.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Even if Katie isn't the true reason you're here, she's still a weakness.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Oh, it's Edgar. How nice of you to come over. I haven't seen you in weeks.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
No, no, he doesn't work there anymore.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
no he quit not long after you did he became a security guard somewhere he never mentioned where though i'll call him then he dropped his phone a few weeks ago and got a new one let me give you the new number she walked back inside for a minute and i waited on the porch she came back with her old flip phone and opened it do you mind My arthritis makes it hard to use this phone.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
I needed to freeze my account. What's your account number?
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
When did you start to notice the fraudulent activity?
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Okay. I filled out the report and submitted it.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
You know why, jackass. Not so loud. Not so loud. We're having a nice, quiet conversation.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
But, I'm not going to kill you. That's the rule. I will not kill you, Xander.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
because I'm not a sick psychopath. Clearly not, but this is boring for me.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Do you understand the rules now, Xander?
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Now, now. This isn't a theological discussion. You and Clark do your best to ruin my life. Do whatever you want. But if you kill me... I kill Katie. Can't kill her if you're dead. No, but my friend will. It's amazing the kind of people you can meet online.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Well, that's why he probably took out the money. Well, now that we have the cryptos, we'll do this for you, Davids.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Yeah, we're actually very smart. We're risk takers, but we do invest into Bitcoin.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
That's part of the game. Can't ruin me if you can't convict me. I've been preparing for years.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
How am I supposed to put in a good effort if you've been preparing for years? I'll consider giving you some advice. In the meantime, do your best and tell Clark to play along because I'll have some motivation for him too.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
It's been good catching up with you, Xander.
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I just drew you and Haley Welch making sweet love and sold it on the NFT market. But how could you? Some people consider this fine art. Okay.
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Stop, stop. Let him go. I have something to tell you.
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Some people just need minimal effort to be motivated.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
The size of a tangerine for minimal effort.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Yeah, gonna go ruin my best friend's life.
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I Dared My Best Friend To Ruin My Life | Creep Cast
Call my mom for bail. I'll be out soon.
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High school was so easy because we knew our purpose and our goals were set for us.
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I'd put my hands up and I'd be like, Isaiah, don't do it. Don't do it, Isaiah.
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I would sit there. You can't, you're my angel.
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Stop saying that. Just kill me, Isaiah.
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Just put a bullet in my head.
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There's no time, Isaiah.
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It's like almost impossible for me to be talking, but I'm like, I can't end it, please.
Dateline NBC
The Watcher
Well, in March. We kind of stopped talking, and then through May, and that's when our graduation, she sent me an email saying, would you at least please come? I'm just asking, but that's what they told me. No, I understand that. No, but it's because it's never been like fluid and continuous because when I felt the pressure of the commitment, I just kind of backed off.
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Poison Twist
He slowly started dropping all of his classes, and he was pretty much staying in bed all day and drinking a lot.
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Poison Twist
I was. He had expressed to me that he was suicidal a couple of times, which was very concerning.
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Poison Twist
I was absolutely floored. And at that time, they had asked me flat out, do you think Adam could have killed his mother? What did you tell them? At the time, I said, no, I don't think he would.
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Poison Twist
They had asked me flat out, do you think Adam could have killed his mother? You always look at the husband.
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Poison Twist
I helped him build a computer in the past. He was going to school for computer science.
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Poison Twist
I had asked him about it since it was in a flowery laptop sleeve and it had a picture of a Victorian background that just didn't suit Adam's character. So I asked him about it. He said it was Katie's.
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Return to the Lake
Tonight on Dateline. So many people still think about them. I wish I could tell them.
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Return to the Lake
I don't remember them really talking to me a whole lot after I took the polygraph and obviously passed, as they said, with flying colors.
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Return to the Lake
The media. It was out of control. Circus. They were camped out at her parents' house where we were staying. They were camped out at the courthouse. They would try to follow us.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
I just got up every day and did whatever somebody told me to do. If it was to go for an interview, if it was to take a polygraph.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
Wow. For myself, yes. Because I wouldn't have to be dealing with what's coming up now and in the future.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
I said, don't worry about it. I told her not to worry. I was trying to, like, help her pass polygraph tests. I was telling her, like, to think about a field of daisies, an autumn day in the fall, to calm her down to pass the polygraph. Because I wanted us to get past that.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
I didn't put a lot of weight into it. Because to me, she had just had her children, our children ripped away from her, snatched from her. How in the world would she be able to pass the polygraph?
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Return to the Lake
Susan is distraught. She's crying. The tears seem genuine. I believe David Ward's coming out of her mouth. Then, the news no one could believe.
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Return to the Lake
David spoke directly to his boys. Me and Mommy believe that you guys are okay and that you will be coming home soon. We're not going to give up until we find you.
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Return to the Lake
When Sheriff Wells announced it to the public. That's the way I found out.
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Return to the Lake
No. My thoughts were just, what is he talking about? I didn't think it was a mistake. I didn't think it was correct. I was just like, what is he talking about? You couldn't even get your head around it.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
You don't kill your children for what happened to you. I wanted an eye for an eye.
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Return to the Lake
It changes everything, having to bury a child. And burying two of them, that the mother killed them, I didn't know which way to go.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
She just casually, like you and I, sitting here, said, I'm sorry. And that was about as far as it went. Me? Craig, I would have been around her ankles begging her to forgive me if I had done what she did.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
Yes, I did ask her, why did you do this? Why did you, why? And she said, I don't know why, but I'm sorry.
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Return to the Lake
I don't know if I should even answer that. Be honest, though. I used to sit there and look at the back of her head and then look at where the bailiffs were, the officers were, and think about killing her. How quick could I get to her? Could I reach her before that officer reaches me? Or could I get to her before that person would jump in front of me before I got my hands on her? Yeah.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
I remember it was around 9 o'clock and Sheriff Wells said that your children have been taken and we're at the McLeod residence. You need to get here. And when you get there, what do you find? Susan is in the living room, and when I walk in, she's just distraught. She's crying. What was she saying about what happened?
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
I didn't really know either way. That was the first time I'd ever been through a trial, and especially one capital murder.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
At least she was going to go to prison. That took some relief off of me.
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Return to the Lake
That I was at a red light and that a black man jumped in the car, made me drive, and then forced me out of the car and drove off with them and still in the car.
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Return to the Lake
It was probably the, I won't say the hardest day I've ever had, but it was, it's been among the top five.
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Return to the Lake
I remember Tommy Pope just asking me a lot of questions about Michael and Alex and about mine and Susan's marriage. I remember it seemed like I cried a lot.
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Return to the Lake
He still is. It wasn't an accident. She didn't kill them by mistake. She took a life. She should have gave up her life for it.
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Return to the Lake
She deliberately killed Michael and Alex, and they can't let her out.
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Return to the Lake
You went back to the lake. And what happened? I had my car lined up on the same boat ramp. No. Because I wanted to go to the same place the same way they did. But I couldn't do it. I prayed for the strength to do it. There was a time when I was on their grave with a gun in my mouth, praying to God to give me the strength to pull that trigger.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
Wow. For myself, yes. Because I wouldn't have to be dealing with what's coming up now. I mean, Craig, I... I know that they said she had a tough life growing up, and I've never tried to make light of that. But you don't kill your children for what happened to you. I wanted an eye for an eye, but the jury saw a difference.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
I saw how dedicated and faithful and compassionate Tiffany was through all of it and stuck by my side. So I knew that I better make that jump before I lose it.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
For me, it was a fine balance between being overprotective and not very protective at all. Not being part of their life because you're scared to love them because something happened to them.
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Return to the Lake
What have you heard? What have you been made aware of? I've heard about drug abuse, had, you know, sex relations with guards, but I would just hear it and then move on.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
I don't think she's even, to me, been really sorry for what she did.
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Return to the Lake
What do you plan to say? I don't know for sure. They're speaking from the heart, nothing scripted. But I just want to tell that parole board that they can't let her out.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
God gives us free choice. And she made free choice that night to end her life. This wasn't a tragic mistake. It wasn't something that she didn't mean to do. She purposely did. meant to end their life. I understand back in 95 that through the state's law, life in prison meant 30 years to life. But ultimately to me, that's only 15 years per child. Her own children. It's just not enough.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
Just because... It's gonna give me another chance to stand up for Michael and Alex, to defend them and try to keep the sympathy off of her that she keeps trying to conjure.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
I would say the top would be my faith in God. You know, I was mad at him for a long time. Me and him have had some heated discussions, but I never blamed him. But the second was not letting her win. You may have took my children, but you're not gonna make me bitter. You're not gonna make me mad at the world. You're not gonna make me take my own life. You're not gonna win.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
Of course. Why? Because that's the way I was taught. I had to forgive her because it was just going to eat me up if I didn't. It was going to hold me back.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
I've never really had any memories of them since they passed. I was told by, you know, psychiatrists and stuff through the years early on that that was just my self-defense system. It was protecting me from myself, but that they would come back. But, Craig, we're here 30 years later, as you said. And I still have very few memories of my electronics. And that hurts. It hurts.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
You want vivid memories. Yes. Of course I want to remember them. I want to remember things I did with them.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
That's all I can think it is. It's my own mind protecting me from myself because I still miss them so much that those memories would just hurt too much. And my own self knows that. And it's just saying, not yet, David. Not yet. In January 2025, David returned to John D. Long Lake.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
This is the first time I've been back to this lake in about 25 years.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
To the eyes it's more peaceful, but to the heart it's still sad, sadness.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
I used to sit there and look at the back of her head and think about killing her. You wanted her dead. I did.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
You're not going to make me bitter. You're not going to make me mad at the world. You're not going to win.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
Then Michael was born, and I was head over heels. My first son. Then came little Alex. Tell me about Michael.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
Michael was the more sensitive one. His feelings would get hurt easy when you scolded him. He was very protective of Alex at the daycare. Even at home, Alex was more rambunctious, more mischievous.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
She always made sure they were well-dressed. Whoever was taking care of them while we were at work, she made sure they were in good hands.
Dateline NBC
Return to the Lake
I was a lousy husband. You know, there was infidelity. But there was, you know, infidelity on her part, too, after mine, but... You were both cheating on each other. Right. Yeah.
Dateline NBC
Lori Vallow Daybell: The Jailhouse Interview
A couple hours later, Alex brings back J.J. He walked in, he had J.J. on, it was asleep on him, and he carried him up to bed.
Dateline NBC
A murder suspect's brother under scrutiny. Breakthrough in parents' quest for answers. And should jurors question witnesses?
Never in a million years would you think that you'd see your parents' house taped off, the farm taped off by that yellow tape.
Dateline NBC
A murder suspect's brother under scrutiny. Breakthrough in parents' quest for answers. And should jurors question witnesses?
For myself, yes, because I wouldn't have to be dealing with what's coming up now and in the future.
Farm4Profit Podcast
F4F - Just a Jackson Thing and Tony Reed - Breaking the Internet
Join Corey. You boys want some popsicles? David. So Tanner, what I really got to know, is the juice worth the squeeze? And Tanner. All right, it's about time to wrap this baby up. They're my favorite, like Farm for Fun. It's time to put aside the stress of the work boots, sit down, grab your favorite adult beverage, and listen to the boys from Farm for Profit. Yay, it says applause.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Yeah, he did. As soon as the interview's over, he runs around and jumping on this stuff and jumping off that stuff.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Big Gashy. Big Gashy. Big Gashy.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
He kind of is running it. He is the chief tractor kid.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
I know. I was waiting for Christmas in hopes that I got it.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
49 billion downloads. 49 billion networks.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Most people are saved as that guy in this county or that guy with the 4230 or...
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Oh, it hasn't sold yet. It hasn't sold yet, yeah. I mean, as of this show, it did so. Yeah, as of this show, it did.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
How do you know you didn't get a better rate?
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
What the heck? Or you decided not to have that credit card anymore. I still have my credit card from when I was 14. I don't use it, but I'm told I'll get a negative credit score.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
I literally just got a two-year loan for my kid, but we were going to try to pay it off in one year on his truck. It'll still be positive.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
So I wonder if I'm better to just go get him a credit card.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
I need a credit monitoring service. There's got to be an app for that.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Nathan. Binder. That's how you spell Binders.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Depends on where the tongue weight is. So, like mine, I have a 14-foot trailer. It's short. I have to back it on. I need more weight on the front.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
But like a flatbed? It could, yeah. Deck over. If you had a deck over. Yeah. The fifth wheel. I lost a boat one time on the interstate and I had to... What? I had to... Dude, I lost like a wheel. The whole axle like was gone. And it was an auction deal. And I had to go... It was a repo deal. An auction repo deal. The guy was upset with it. So I gave him his money back. I went and got it.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Well, the doggone wheel fell off on the way back.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
You told me you were going to go repo this boat. Yeah. And it was like a four-hour drive away. Well, then, so I'm halfway back. I put the boat on the side of the road. I'm in a construction zone. I drive home, get a deck over flatbed with a skid loader with forks, fork extensions, so I can go back and fork this stupid boat trailer and boat onto my trailer. Fork this forking boat.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
And so then I had to back on with the boat on my forks and turn around on top of the trailer and just set it down because I wasn't long enough to load the boat and the skid loader on the trailer. So I just kept it loaded on the forks.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Got a new axle for it. Sold it to another guy in Northern Iowa. Three-hour drive there. Put her together. How much did you lose? My time. That's a lot.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
It's weird. The thing that I think is weird is I've been with some folks. Well, we've been with some folks. And they've said, well, that guy's a creeper. Why? Because he's in my DMs. Well, maybe he wanted to take you on a date. And get out of creeper status. And get out of creeper status.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
No one ever talks to me. And then they do, oh, he's a creeper. There's no winning at all.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
She Twitterpated? Twitterpated. What is that? That's even older than you guys, huh? What is that? Twitterpated from Bambi. The movie Bambi. No. I've seen Bambi. So have I. Twitterpated? I was thinking of Twitter like X. Yeah. The platform. Twitterpated. She's in love. When the skunk in Bambi talks to the deer in Bambi. That's good. Well, we got to end it. She knew it was coming. She didn't know.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
That is, I can't think of the word right now.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
It is a bunch of people that are older gentlemen that like to reminisce about old times. We always get in a discussion about what used to be there or that person used to live there or that was the old such and such place. And she got a divorce, but then remarried to such and such. And it's always just a reminisce back to the regurgitated and hopefully for a better use.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
They have a little. See, I don't show up every day on purpose because then it gets. They can talk about you? It's complacent every time. So when I show up, they're like, ooh, I wonder what he's got to say today. So then I show up and don't say anything. And then they're like, so what? And then they ask me exactly what they're looking for. And normally it's about the farmland market.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
So then I let them engage about farmland.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
For our firm. Yeah. On how. So the flyer that we talked about that I just made the other night, I want to say how to become a realtor and what are the keys to success with us. And so I wrote a nine step.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
You guys remember that? Oh Sheep Girls. Yeah.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
I follow them now. And did you see the one where she was prank checking a cow? And so she is. Yeah. She's literally like, she can't take it. It's just funny. They are funny.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
I guess I'm thinking live auctions. And because I've had a bunch of other auctioneers come to our auctions and buy and then resell the stuff at their auction. So everybody's trying to take a percent on it. And then I went to their auction the other day. So case in point, I sold a combine to a guy, local auctioneer bought it. He waited four months, put it on his auction.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
And then I watched who bought it there. And the guys from Richie Brothers showed up and they bought it on his auction. I'm like, well, heck, that ain't even the end user there. They're going to now take it down to Mississippi. They're going to resell it there. Or it'll go to Ed's Machinery in Missouri and then he'll sell it and then Florida will buy it and then they'll resell it.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
What kind of a gamble is that? And by the time we've shipped this thing 10 times and everybody took 8% in the middle, by the time the end user actually buys it, I feel like it might be jacked up 40%.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Everybody thinks they can sell it for more. Everybody thinks that it might be worth more. You better know your game if you're going to be buying and selling. If you're swapping equipment and trading. Wow. I just don't feel like we're at that point yet. Money's made in the margins. And dealers buy as well. I don't know if it's that big. But even personal property.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
We had our Christmas party last night. We were talking with personal property folks and how many people are buying that are the people that actually want the antique. That is a lot. They're not. It's actually all the consignment stores and eBay. I sold parts last weekend for an automobile parts deal and there was order buyers there. We sold 90% of the parts to five guys.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
They take them and remarket them, keep them, put them in their stores and put them on eBay for the next year until the next auction that they have there. Whoa. Heck of a game. So the last few auctions that I've attended and assisted with have been like, wow, there's a lot of people that are just buying to resell. Yeah. When you get into the big pieces, though, like, is that? No, not as much.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
And, of course, farmland, I'm 100% opposite. It's the end user that's buying it 100% of the time. Is it, though?
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
But they're not... I mean, there's a few guys, like Noah, might buy it just to flip it. There are guys buying it to flip it, you know? Well, that's what you should start doing.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Well, I've sold a handful that way, and that's why everybody writes and or assigns, and they'll just assign it to, they'll resell it. They got their buyers in mind. They'll resell it to somebody else before they have to close.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Ooh. That's a good point. Never went in your name. So then how do they get paid? You just take the cream off the top.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Tax. I've never done it, so I've never had to pay that tax. You should start doing it. Well, if I had Corey's money, I'd do it.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Are you married? Have you ever said, oh, I'm married today? No. Why do we wish people Merry Christmas? We're wishing them something that nobody knows.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
What if you said have a gay day? That used to be a thing. You can't with DEI. Yeah, now you can't.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
You can't say gay day? Nope. You can have a gay day.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
I know. My wife's like, I can't buy anything. I can't buy anything.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
Oh, yeah, you can. Yeah. We should. I can just keep my password for... That's true.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
But... No, I don't. They say you can do it for your household. What about like the studio hold? I did that once though at one of my auctions and your song started playing at my auction. Not my fault. And that can be dangerous. Not my fault.
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Farmers Say the Funniest Things: Listener Comments of 2024
I'd like to upgrade to an iPhone 16. Oh. You didn't? I didn't yet. Have you? Yes, I told you. He gets it the day it comes out. I know. And I didn't yet. I need to. So you didn't buy it for yourself?
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Some More Wine! Catching up with Gavin and Grayce
I think it's very good. It's an easy drinker. It is. It is. I went wine tasting on my honeymoon, and I thought everything was so dry. Was that just last year? No, 22 years ago, and I've not been a wine drinker since we went out to California and tasted good wine. I've actually been drinking more and more wine, and this is very good.
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Some More Wine! Catching up with Gavin and Grayce
Is there anything to the shape of the bottle there, Duff? This one is a traditional look of a wine bottle. This one's got a whiter, fatter brim on the bottle.
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Some More Wine! Catching up with Gavin and Grayce
I did on this one. So I had a guy tell me once that the deeper the hole on the bottom of the bottle, the better the wine is.
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Some More Wine! Catching up with Gavin and Grayce
It's fruitier to me. It's fruitier to me.
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Some More Wine! Catching up with Gavin and Grayce
It's fruitier. Yeah. And it's not dry at all. Very, very good. And it is different though. Between the 15 miles.
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Some More Wine! Catching up with Gavin and Grayce
On the back, this says lambertbridge.com. Awesome. So for this one, I think you could just probably put that in on your URL browser. Corey's got to pull the other one out of his ice bucket.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
I don't want to turn this into an episode about your dad and uncle, but I am genuinely curious. They farmed. How did they get into doing what they're doing? Because everyone knows that. Yeah.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Would you rather plant corn or plant soybeans? Oh, yeah.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Can I do both? I can run the cab from the studio?
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
So we do a lot of succession planning episodes and things like that. Obviously, you guys are a farm, but then you also have a media business as well. Have you guys started that? Are you going to take over the reins someday? No, we have not talked about that at all.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
That's the crazy thing about media is, you know, if you're farming – You either got to take over that farm or go find a bunch more acres to start your own. Media, there's a bunch of room. You can just carve out your own little space on the side and run in parallel.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
I think it's the best I've ever felt on the morning of a Farm Progress Show.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
don't know if that was any shorter it was exactly the same it was more entertaining and i would just just say that i just wanted i listened to podcasts outside of ag and i think ag is no different than everybody else we're all humans right i want to be entertaining and be barstool-esque and espn you know like that to to ag and so i'm a very social person
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Hydrating for today because it's the big one today.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
And I had a bunch of friends and then COVID just kind of grounded. It grounded a lot of people. And that was my social hour was with that. And then it just stuck, you know, and I still look forward to it. It's kind of my mental health away.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
July, five years? Yeah. What is that in dog years, or what is that in podcast years?
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
It was once a week, started out. Actually, they were going every other week. Then they went to once a week, and then we just could not get content out fast enough. Our list of guests and everything kept growing, so we had to go to twice a week. We could go every day, probably.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
All right. No music? No music. All right. Here we go. Today on the Farm for Fun show from the 2024 Farm Progress show here at the John Deere booth, we meet up with a first-time guest of the podcast. You may have heard his last name before. but he's looking to blaze his own trail in agriculture. He's a fifth-generation farmer from South Dakota.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
How come we didn't make the top five things to do at Farm Progress Show, your interview?
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
We get it. You can't please everyone. And when you're in this position, I mean, Tanner's brain gets so scrambled at these things because he's a scheduler by heart. And, like, yeah, it's about fried by the end of the week trying to think of all the – you should see the schedule we have. Every conversation, every bathroom break, every food intake is scheduled.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
And if we didn't have Tanner doing that, we would be screwed. Actually, this would have been dead at the start. Dave and I aren't that organized.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
And sometimes a golf cart really doesn't make you any faster in the crowds that are here. No, it's bad. You go like one mile an hour probably.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
You may have recently seen his content all over the socials. Please welcome Mr. Zach Hefty. Woo! Welcome to the show, buddy.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
It is the best thing. It is one of the most premier networking events, I mean, ever. Gosh, I can't tell you the amount of friends that we've made there. And then we got a lot. It's weird. Social media is weird, right? Like, you're my friend, but this is the first time we've ever met, right? Like, this is kind of weird. And it's just a cool place to sit down and chat in person.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
You should have seen what I had to do to get parked. I had to go through the ditch off of Highway 30 and run in here because Tanner does not do intros.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
You'll really appreciate the shop, too, because I'm pretty sure it's air-conditioned. It can hold, like, 500 people. And then he's got, like, a secret, like, hangout room with a golf simulator, a bunch of cool bourbon and all this stuff. So he's a pretty cool dude.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
you know we're a little jumpy and they're just they're just so smooth and that's because we farmer it finesse we don't run this all day and we go get in one and we think we know what we're doing and they have those sites all across america and probably the world and it's just like 160 acres out there of bare dirt and they're just spraying water all day with sprayers just putting hours on stuff yeah you know testing and they planted you know they're planting all day and
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Anyway, welcome. Let's get a background about yourself. I think everyone knows the last name. If you're an agricultor, everyone knows the last name, but they might not have heard your first name. Yeah. So I'm Zach Hefty.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
And we got to run, not the Innovation Center, but we got to go out to the John Deere Classic and run the little excavator with the world's largest putter. Yeah. And how is that? I made it my first time.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Does a full 360 like a driver. Actually gets air underneath the golf ball.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
So we didn't know what to expect. Tanner's a golfer. I whack the ball around a few times a summer in just like four-person bat shots. Dave does not golf.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
And we were supposed to go down to the NCBA with John Deere in our contract. That wasn't going to work, so we just pivoted to that, and we're like, that sounds cool. I've never been to a professional golf tournament before, and you're seeing these PGA guys play, and we just walk in, and it was a great experience. I would suggest anyone to go. They really run it fantastic.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Even if you're not a golf fan, there's concerts. They really have kind of set it up for everybody.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
I really enjoyed, we got to interview one of the grounds crew. And I'm an agronomy nerd myself, graduated from Iowa State University. A lot of their grounds crew graduated. Iowa State has a fantastic turf management program. There's agronomy in everything, right? There's agronomy here at the show. I see people planted some corn over there.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Someone had to literally come and plant corn here three weeks ago to make it look like that planter was planting. It's crazy the amount of thought that goes into it.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Exactly. It's just a visual. But the cool thing about that tournament is John Deere, a lot of the flack that we get is John Deere doesn't... People say, why does John Deere have a golf tournament? That's stupid. they don't realize they raise money for over 500 charities or 400 charities.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
And last year they raised over $14 million, you know, like the impact that they have locally and across the country. It's, it's crazy. So that's what that tournament is all about. Yeah.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Yep. Oh, they were just, and they had custom hats just for the, it said, what did it say? Deer Run Agronomy or something.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
I'm like, you can't. I'm like, come on. That'd be a cool hat.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Yeah. That was one sliding a koozie under the table did not work.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Yeah. I got a caddy hat. Yeah. And those felt special. Yeah. Okay. So we know that this takes a lot of time, this media business. It's a lot of rigmarole. I mean, it's nice because our phones, we can work from anywhere. But how do you guys manage the farm? Do you have, like, a lot of employees back there? Because I know how much it takes to be in recording every day.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Everyone wants to go farm. They want to run the tractors. For five seconds. Really, it's three months out of the year that we're really in the tractors a lot.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Yeah. Talk about the hefty field day. We've never been up to it. We've wanted to go. Do you have much part in that?
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
The only thing I ask why one day is because I don't come to these shows for, I mean, I like seeing the big combines and that, but I do it for this, the networking, right? So, like, I hear one day and I'm like, when do we get together with everybody, right? So, what's the game plan? Do you come in the day before?
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Oh, man. It was special. So tell me about the story then.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
He's like, I'm going to... No, no, that was Nebraska.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
I had a half-smoked cigarette on top of my dresser, mold on the walls in the shower, and
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
And you stepped in and it was like you stepped into a pool room and it was just humid and the air condition had been running completely. It was just like woofta.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Oh, yeah. That's probably out towards Sturgis, right? Yeah, it's right by there. Yeah, they're all kind of close together. I actually had a great aunt that lived out there in Rapid City. I forgot about that. Yeah. We're getting dripped all over.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Yeah, wrap it too. People have honestly told us to do that. And so we built a studio last year, our own permanent spot in an old Casey's General store. But we were actually looking at a bus one time because then it could just be kind of mobile, have everything set up in there. Yeah. And it's still not taking it out of the realm of possibilities, but I don't know.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
They want us on a road show, but I don't know if we would like each other as much as if we had to – Sleep in the bus together.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
So it's your dad and your uncle that run the Hefty Brothers that everyone knows. And so you grew up with that. Did you grow up helping on the farm?
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
I do like that. We've interviewed a couple of ag aviation pilots. They're wild.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
So how do we get Farm for Profit and the Hefty team to start working together? That's what we need.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
We like Acres TV. We just haven't put anything on there yet, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, we can talk more about it.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
put stuff on other platforms we'll just say that some hires and things like that so yeah we were just that really was it was just we were physically out of i mean max capacity i guess of what we could do and it's like man that's one other thing it was an experiment how much can we do and probably got too far extended and now we're we're uh gonna make up for that yeah that's great yeah this has been a lot of fun and appreciate you doing it first thing in the morning
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
He had the word balance in there at first, and I told him to switch the word to juggle because it's not always a balance.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse being close to home, like 10 miles from here. I like to go out to the trade show and go get a meal with a prospect or one of your partners and network. But now I'm expected to be home and get the kids on the bus and do that kind of thing.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
And, I mean, there's different ways of doing that, right? Like Tanner's wife is going to be at the after party getting things ready for us this afternoon. Mine's running my business all week. Yours is running your business, and mine is going to work providing health insurance and then taking care of the girls afterwards and all that. So it's like there's different ways to do it.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
I was genuinely interested in that because his dad and uncle are probably some of the first, I would call, in social media. Even though social media wasn't, I mean, they've been on TV.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Mine's a nurse at the school, and she went from the hospital there just so she could have the same schedule as the girls. Took a major pay cut, but –
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Right? For a long time. And I just wondered what a kid coming up, because it feels like everything now, influencers are kind of a first gen thing. And we've never been through it. We found it mid-life. So I just wanted to hear how that life was coming up.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
It's not going to be a shower, but it'll be a full outfit.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Everyone wants to go farm. They want to run the tractors.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Really, it's three months out of the year that we're really in the tractors a lot.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
There you go. So what do you all do now? I mean, there's a lot of things under the hefty umbrella, right? What is it you do under there?
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
So have you done anything with the Hefty Seed brand or in their Hefty Seeds and all that kind of – what else is there under? Acres TV kind of stuff? Yeah.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Two years, Dave. Or one and a half. Okay. I got it.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
And Dave's gets a lot more comments than this one. Yesterday, walking around, Tanner and I had those shirts on. Love your shirt, love your shirt. So just start that conversation.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
And we can tell you that Dave had probably the personality that would wear something like that. Tanner and I, we were like, what are we going to do with this? What do we call those, paisleys? This is called Austin Flowers. Austin Flowers, yeah. We would not normally wear that out in public, but it was a little nerve-wracking the first couple times.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
But I'll tell you what, I think it's pretty cool now.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
I will say what we did change was these are... thick australian cotton these are like uh sunday swagger actually sunday crew uh makes them it's a golf shirt you know it's very nice if you wanted to double up the mission statement sunday swagger sunday crew is all about uh melanoma awareness yes 50 spf yeah yeah let's do our good things
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Yeah, it's a lot. And I feel terrible like when I'm sitting staring at my phone and my dad and my brother are looking at me like, let's go, let's get this truck loaded, let you know. It's like, okay.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
He was sitting in that chair yesterday with just a Jackson thing. But he's always professional when he gets on the mic.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
Not like it's TikTok. Everyone wants to know, is he really like he is on TikTok? If you get a few keystones in him.
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F4F - Zach Hefty AKA "Prince Hefty"
And it was funny to see John Deere come around to that, because at first they were like, nope, don't want anything to do with that. And then they met him, and it's like, oh, yeah, he can come up here.
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F4F - Shawn Feikema - Feikema Farms
What is triticale? It's a cross between wheat and rye.
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F4F - Shawn Feikema - Feikema Farms
I took a picture of the shirt. He's investing a ton of money into that.
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F4F - Shawn Feikema - Feikema Farms
And what did he say? $30 million. He says, I'm personally backing it or something. Yeah.
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F4F - Shawn Feikema - Feikema Farms
Any of that decision-making come from, uh, carbon as well, or CI scores or anything?
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F4F - Shawn Feikema - Feikema Farms
came from laverne minnesota ford dealership up there really herman motors just rusted out or what no it was black betty is black and chrome rocker panels dual exhaust he saw the tiktok i sent you guys last night about the crappy truck and the girls like that you know all right before we get into you what was your what was your first vehicle sean oh it was uh uh i can't remember the year
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F4F - Shawn Feikema - Feikema Farms
I had an old Danger Ranger. Danger Ranger. Yeah. Ford FN Ranger? Yeah. Ford FN Ranger. Uh-huh. Blue in color. Oh, yeah. 800 bucks. Ford from the beginning. I had a Ford from the beginning. Yep. I've been through all the brands, though.
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F4F - Shawn Feikema - Feikema Farms
Well, the cattle market's been a lot better than the row crop market for you, probably.
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F4F - Shawn Feikema - Feikema Farms
I've had a couple clients that have said that, and they're like, well, we'd like to move our 2,000 acres to here. Can you find us 2,000 more? I'm like, well, all connecting? Yeah. Like, this is not an easy feat to do, you know? But they bought it way back when, when it was, you know, 50 bucks an acre. And so now they're ready to cash out and move somewhere else. But, yeah.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
You guys know our friend Huey. Be cool. He's always got business ideas, and he was talking to me about selling direct-to-consumer the other day. He wants to start this and was asking me. We have cattle at my house as well. We don't sell direct-to-consumer. And so he was asking, what does it take to get started and whatnot? You said you rented 20 acres and you had six acres of your own.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
So you had about 26 acres and you had six head that you kind of started with. To me, that doesn't add up to dollars that that's enough to feed a whole family, you know, for a living wage. How much did it like we're yet now? We're yet now like how many head if I can ask, what's it take to make a living at this if you're going to do direct to consumer?
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
Well, and I was leading into the next. Now you're teaching people to sell beef. So you must have some analytics of if I'm going to teach you how to sell beef, that's my next question. How do we sell beef?
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
You don't think so? No, not at all. Okay. We need it to elect the next president, you know?
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
Canada, it's Tim Hortons, isn't it? Not Starbucks?
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
Amy, what I'm hearing is you have a way to show customers how to market their product probably really good or an education program that does that. Do you teach them how to, say, buy cattle at the auction? No.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
She didn't say enough. No, she didn't. Happy New Year. Got the brand for those that are watching online, too. I like the WK Inside H. That is cool.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
My father-in-law sells direct to consumer. He started doing that. We were cow-calf for a while and he'd sell genetics and then he realized that instead of selling the bull for genetics, he'd get whatever, $3,000 a head.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
He's like, well, I could cut its head off and sell it as meat and steer it and then end up feeding it out, make more money doing that and get $5,000 worth of meat out of it instead and in a shorter window. And he would start doing that.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
But when he would do it, a lot of people didn't realize how much the packer cost to have them process or the processor, not the packer, but the processor to process the meat. And so some people would sell it as hanging weight. Some people would sell it as just the meat. So there's bone in or bone out weight.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
And then some would sell it as carcass weight, you know, with skin, without skin, et cetera, et cetera. And so explaining that to the consumer. What he's always tried to explain to him was here's the price of what you're going to pay at the grocery store for hamburger. Here's the price of what you're going to sell for steak. I'll just split the difference.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
Instead of paying $15 for a steak and $3 for hamburger, I'm going to sell it all to you at $7. You know, and he just split it all and he just split it in the middle. But I don't know if there's a right way to do it, but that was his.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
Uh, he did it on yield.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
Yeah, I'm from Hawaii. She's not from Hawaii. It sounds like a Canadian accent, but Hawaii is what I guessed. Canadian accent?
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
I am.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
Good skiing in BC. Go to Whistler back home. Get to see the ocean and be on the mountains. Dual ski resort.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
Yeah. I'm going to take these guys skiing. We're going to go out to the old Commodity Classic and...
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
She wanted a Montana cowboy, and I said, well, I'm from Montana, but I'm not necessarily a cowboy, but we can make it work.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
Yeah.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
How many people in the States don't have insurance that just have kids all the time? I mean, the government, I guess, takes care of them nonetheless. But I never thought about decision making to move to the States.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
So, but don't, aren't your taxes in Canada, don't you guys pay like 40, 50% like income tax on your income? No. Oh, okay. I'm wrong. Okay.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
And David is definitely here today.
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
I'm curious, like, how do two engineers say, all right, we're going to start a farm, like, let's go buy some cows. Yep. How do you know what kind of cows to buy and how do you not buy dairy steers instead of beef cattle and, and then get the land to support the cattle and like all those decisions that go with it. And do we need creep feeders and how do we do it?
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Direct to Consumer: Amy Hay - Former Engineer Driving The Future of Beef Sales
Like there's a lot of learning curve there.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
If I remember right, this isn't brand specific. So it isn't X, Y, Z. It's 1,300 different seed.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
Isn't it Inauguration Day tomorrow? Oh, it is, yeah.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
I saw it on Facebook. It's official this morning.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
We're picking what it is.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
I'm still back to David Letterman. I'm still back to David Letterman. Do you think Rachel Z knows who David Letterman is?
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
I don't know. She didn't know who Mr. Mustache was, so. We'll ask him. Yeah, we should know who Burt Reynolds was.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
I think you've done that by listening to your customers. You just said it like we didn't know we were going to go down the biologics route, but, hey, they've requested it, and I think that's any good business. I mean, listen to Google. When did we come up with Google Maps? Everyone was asking for maps. Remember when Garmin's came out?
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
It was like the number one gift for, like, dads across the world. Yeah, Garmin watch right here.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
like garments weren't a thing anymore why because google's like all right we need maps like everybody wants google maps what they do they listen to their customers and all of a sudden now it's like everybody has it on their phone google maps well you never know you listen to your customers next thing you know maybe biologics you're gonna be the next i do not miss printing off those map was map quest oh yeah printing off those maps and you're driving and you're trying to read left hand turn at 290th street and all of a sudden you're looking at 410th
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
I try to tell these guys all the time. Apple Maps just doesn't cut it.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
like oh i could beat that by 15 minutes you know and now you can't you can't you can't beat it anymore i don't know if it just if it reads and knows your driving habits or whatever it is well and it also knows the traffic it does yeah i like that you could change the name of your garmin and you could also change the voice so i change it to like a female lady and like a british gal yeah exactly
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
I love her voice. You can change the voice like, oh, hey, Shannon, how long is it going to take us to get there?
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
No, I'm punching it. I did get a speeding ticket already this year, and my wife's like, really? I'm like, it's only one this year. She's like, it's January 5th. It's only one this year. Didn't you get one like right before the end of the year too? It's like two this month. In a couple weeks.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
It's about five. At about five you get a letter and I'm sitting at about three right now.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
This is analytics. I should get cheaper car insurance, not more expensive car insurance, because if I can drive that fast and be pulled over that many times and get that many tickets and never be in a car accident, it just proves I'm that much better of a driver. There is a silver lining, Dave. I like that. They're like, you're that much more prone to get in an accident?
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
I'm like, no, I'm that less prone to get in an accident. I've been pulled over like 42 times and I've got like 28 tickets. So it's like, I'm just proved that I'm that much better.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
It's really tough. So I'm not the cheapest guy at what I do, And I want people to hire me not because I'm the cheapest guy. So don't undercut me because somebody else is cheaper. You get what you pay for sometimes is what I think.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
So they're buying cheaper corn, but then guaranteeing the upside too.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
Oh, really?
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
Oh, big time.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
I called him the other day because I got a postcard and it says you get a discount on something. I'm like, hey, wait a minute. Did I get this discount? And he's like, yeah, you already did. I was like, okay, fair enough.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
I was calling bull crap on it. I was like, wait a minute.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
Right. I did too. You got it. Go comment, right? I was like, wait a minute, discount code on this postcard.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
What's your guys' opinion on this? This is where I was going. Farmers are just so loyal. I am all for getting the best deal and shopping around. I'm a dealer. I love to negotiate. I love to shop for the best deal. But I also love relationships. So in farming, I'm all about relationships. And I love guys that like to do business with me because they like to do business with me.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
Corey, what's your answer? Do you like the relationships more or do you like to shop for the deal?
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
Really?
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
Correct. So the reason my car insurance is higher... is because statistically, they think I speed a lot, that I'm gonna get in an accident more often. So they've proven that statistically, they know that they might have to pay out more to me.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
you're an insurance company in a sense that statistically somebody's done the analytics on this, that you're every insurance companies, there's big money behind this, that somebody's done the analytics that it must work or cause you don't want to pay out. You don't want to pay out. You don't want to not have it work. So somebody's done the math that we know that
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
99.9% of the time, we're not going to pay out. It's going to yield this or we're going to go out of business. So we're not in this business to go out of business. It's going to work. So you've proven this over so many acres already. Can you give us kind of a shot of what that looks like? Like how many acres has it been proven on?
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
We were having this conversation last night after hours of what are setting some of the most successful people apart that in these tougher times, that's when the best of the best thrive.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
Yep. So all the more reason I need more tech because I can't tell you what my yields are because I don't have the mapping on my field yet.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
But what I'm saying is all those older farmers that just don't have the data because they're not collecting it yet. and are listening to this podcast, you need the data.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
Well, I'm even thinking like 25 bushel more or less. People ask me like, well, if I put tile in, will you get more? Well, I'm trying to even figure out like, how can I judge how much more I got? Or even on a farm, how much more will I get selling the farm? Well, I can't sell the farm twice. to tell you how much more did it get. I don't have a Delta to tell you.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
I can't sell it the same day at the same time to tell you that if I would have sold it this way versus this way, it would have brought more money. So it's hard to do any trial and make it exactly perfect.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
Corey, Dave, got a guess?
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
I don't have a guess. I'll go with Tanner's guess.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
I just figured out what we're going to be for Halloween, Corey. It's a long time from now. I'm going to be a priest and make a confession booth right next to you. You're just going to be a farmer. You're going to put farmers enter here? I'm going to just be like the farmer bank and the confession booth. Your job is just to watch. Forgive me, Dave.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
I'm going to dress up like a banker.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
Sometimes feel like snake oil, yes.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
Oh, man. I don't know. I think it's biological.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
Is that just because that's what they're hearing in the background? They've tried everything else?
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
It's the new. It's the new. Right.
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Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
And are you going to –
Farm4Profit Podcast
Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
section those out where it's just biological testing like we don't want to do fungicide and biological i know cory talked about this we need your dad tried to do like multiple different tests on you want good data and you couldn't you couldn't like separate out like what was the the factor that actually changed something right yeah he had too many trials going on and too many directions like i mean he might spray sideways and then have different population trials going this way different hybrid you know so too many things changing at one time you don't know what worked
Farm4Profit Podcast
Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
So we just want to test. That's my question, I guess. You're just testing microbiologics.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
So what if... they all come back and they, they aren't good.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
So it's good that if they come back not good, that's good for your customers because you have good analytics. Yeah, exactly.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Trying New Farming Practices with Your Risk Mitigated - Billy Rose AcreShield Guarantee
And for those of you that are just getting a short glimpse of what Acre Shield is, go back to the previous episode and you'll get a deeper dive in. We're just giving you a short glimpse there of what it is. But go back to the previous episode. We'll put it in the show notes of where that is. But go back and take a deeper listen for a full hour of what that is. But continuing on.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
So who comes up with the WASDE report? The World Agriculture Board at the USDA.
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Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Is it a survey or is it based on data?
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Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Oh, geez. I bet it goes back to the 60s.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Yeah, a little bit past that. I bet it's 60 years.
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Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
That's true.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
So is there any little, a bit of phantom in there, like 20 million missing voters or anything like that?
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Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
I don't know. I have to look. I know there's probably more than 300.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
No. I'm going to do corn on corn still, but for different reasons for silage. But not to get into politics by any means, but markets, as I said, we're talking markets today, are emotion markets. And since the election, we're a red state as it came out on the map. But every person that I've talked to has a more positive or bullish attitude since the election.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
So as we see going forward, just a lot of people have an ease about them now that they feel comfortable. Well, the Dow was up.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Well, yeah. And if your reserve cut rates. Cut a half a percent.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
So Andrew question for you, if every farmer I want, I know wants less government oversight and they, and the WASDE report kind of is a pseudo government agency, correct? Yeah, it's a division of the USA. It puts it out. And everybody I know puts trust in the WASDE report. Does government have influence on commodity prices?
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
So for some of our operators that don't use operating notes and they're fortunate enough to do cash, is there a different recommendation for them?
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Correct. You know, just judging, do you keep it in your bins and hopes that the new administration markets go up? We're back to $5 and you made a, a $2 improvement or do you, or do you take it out, sell it now, put it into a Dow Jones industrial and, and make, you know, X. Yeah. Yep. Corey, I'll ask you and Andrew both on this one. Tanner, you can chime in as well.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Yeah, you can chime in as well. How did the drier corn of this season, 2024, I know when I rode with a couple guys that we were getting 11%. So there's less drying costs this year. Did that weigh into your decision for where you're going to go with markets?
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Yeah. Listeners, if you are wanting more content, of course, we've all kind of been out of the studio and this is kind of back in the studio. So get prepared and buckle up because there's a lot more content coming your way. That's right.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Andrew, do you think that the WASDE report takes in for that consideration that we were awfully dry?
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Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
But remember, her yields were less than ours considerably.
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Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
And that's a big concern on that with carbon credits, that 45 Z.
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Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Well, I think payments are still going out in 2025, but they just haven't figured out.
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Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Tanner, you still have crop in the field. So that must just three letters. We need to get you a shirt that says B T O. It's free storage.
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
So, Andrew, what tools do our farmers need to be looking at right now that you could give out as a tech tip if everybody's trying to make decisions on marketing right now? So what tools you got?
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
within the you know not seven dollar corn then set some targets stick to them and just be disciplined about it you need to start like the secret list the farm for profit list and it's the secret list where like the best basis is and and we'll just put it on we are the tool farm for profit you are the tool you gotta subscribe dave's got the biggest tool this is the premium service it only costs you ten dollars a month how has the hedge beacon performance been this fall
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Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Well, it's covered.
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Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Corey, you made a comment about selling, should have sold a year ago. How many people, I just realized this the other day when I went and talked to the co-op, they said that most of the people this year had actually pre-sold at least half of their stuff. How many guys out there, I did not know this, how many guys out there are selling years in advance?
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
How many years in advance do most people go?
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Do you think – I just thought of one more question, guys. The farm bill. So there was a prelude to the farm bill. I did not read through it, but I saw that TractorZoom was talking about what equipment prices would do if the farm bill came to fruition. Has anybody here looked at the farm bill, and what's that going to do to grain prices?
Farm4Profit Podcast
Breaking Down the November WASDE Report: Andrew Kaabes - Lighthouse Commodities
Oh, my. Oh, my.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Mic stand for an hour.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Well, it's just fake art.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
It's just life, you know, the high and the low, you know.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
And I like what Tom Brady said, and I thought he did a great job announcing. So I like his announcing. He's very, very bright. But at the end, he said – He was in 10 Super Bowls. He doesn't remember the seven that he won. And there's still Super Bowl. I don't know which one or all three that he lost. He still isn't over it. Not fears. Thinks about it.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Look, you don't have that kind of brain. You're like, pretty good. I just cry myself to sleep. No, I interrupt. Why am I interrupting now? Why won't I shut up? Why did I have coffee before he came on this show? The David Spade show.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
No, no, and I'm kidding too.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Is it possible it was $750,000? That's what I read when I went over the morning's newspapers.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Is it okay to say that maybe I'm a Buddhist monk in a previous Buddhist monk life? I don't really like or want things. I stole this jacket, as you know. This is a Gap t-shirt. I stole this jacket. I stole it. I have a $10 Casio watch. It's in the drawer.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I am. Everything you own owns you back. Newsflash, David.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I see it, yeah.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Your closet's the size of a Macy's department store.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I remember the first time a guy said, hey, dog, to me.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Do they wrap it in plastic and say, we can't find, come back later. We can't get stain out. You need to have a ticket.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
You need ticket.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
What's up, dog? And that was kind of cool, too. Which brings us to Kendrick Lamar. I know it's...
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Well, wait a minute. So you were on Busboys today.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Ran here. And you got manhandled.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Oh, wow. Sick. Dana, what would you do?
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Let me just put in context.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
But they jump and they're going to hit the ground eventually. They can't fly. They can't gain altitude.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Well, you know, they're called spy birds and they're half bird, half spider.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I don't like anything coming from the sky at me and mass spiders, ants, comedians who just did an open mic, just flying through the sky, hundreds of them.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I was born and bred and introduced to hip hop in the 90s. I said a hip. Okay. I got three examples. I'm saying a hip hop in the 90s or rap, if you will. The first one was Sir Mix-A-Lot. I like big butts and I cannot lie.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Cut to our clip editor.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
What the freak is it?
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
That's a rat. A 20-pound rat. Oh, man. This is the most nauseous I've been on this show.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Well, what's a guinea pig? What's the thing that looks like a rat?
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
One time, my house in Encino, and there's this noise outside. I open the door, and I thought I saw a 40-pound rat. And I think it was some other thing that looks like a rat.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
If you can saddle up a rat, that's too big a rat. If you can saddle it up and ride it around a county fair.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
If a camel looks at your rat and goes, whoa, that's a big one. You might have a large rat on your hands.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
If your rat is so big that it demands you pay your rent on the first of the month, that's too big a rat.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
If you see a creature and its little paws go up and I go, I know, I'm too large for my species, that might be a big rat.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
If you play Scrabble with an entity that looks like a rat that spells out rat hole and gets offended by its own word score.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Rat hole. And it was mad at its own word score, but that's a triple score. Scrabble.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Nope. Humans are fantastic.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
That's funny. Very potent, really. I got good buzz and I cannot lie. Good rhythm, yeah. Got it. Super catchy.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
But that was Howard Stern's book, right? Coming all over to you. Didn't Howard Sperm do that? Look it up, Heather, Greg. Howard Stern book.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Howard Stern comes again. Howard Stern comes again? So David Spade comes again.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
We have to look at it.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I'll tell you something that's very charismatic. I saw a guy do it. You know, these people who listen to music and then listen to it and tell you they like it or not.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Yeah. For the first time. This British guy. He's putting on a day in the life and he's looking over here like he's listening. I'm looking to the right. And then he would do this. He would go. You know, he's looking. You see what I'm doing? What is he looking at? Well, he's looking at something. Maybe the song countdown. He's looking like this. And then he would share it with us.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
One of your favorites, I believe, which I think also is crazy brilliant. Mama Said Knock You Out. Mama Said Knock You Out by LL Cool J. Mama Said Knock You Out.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
He would go back. And I thought, man.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
It was charismatic. Do it for me so I can see it.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Look away and then look right at the camera.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Oh, boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See? That's cool. About a lucky man who made the grave.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
They're playing I'm a Walrus and like, I like that song. You know, I'd never heard before.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
There are a lot of Beatle people. It's fucking easy. Listening to the Beatles for the first time.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
And then they're like, I got to say, man, these Beatles are wild.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
He wrote it. Lennon thought he could have sang it better because Lennon had that. Paul recorded it like five times. They'd already had the music.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
And then Paul, on the last time, came in and shredded his voice like he's never done before or since. So that is his.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
So it has an anthem. I mean, the lyric of Mama, my mother said knock you out.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
So that was, I know. How would you decide?
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
No. I mean, usually the songwriter sings it. And if it's a co-written song, early in the day, it's like you go, they do Day Tripper. Got a good reason. And then John will go, taking the easy way out, yeah. Not a good reason. Yeah, classic back and forth. Taking the easy way out, yeah. I forgot about Day Tripper. No, there's too many songs.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Too much genius-itis. It's a disease.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
It's the only time he's kind of... Always about Jane Asher, I think, or a girlfriend. I'm looking through you. Where have you been? It's a total chopper.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Yeah, Paul is just... If you listen to the song, it's great. It's hard to ask Paul McCartney, even now, even if he was on right now.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Madre. Mi madre. El knocko de alto. So it's sort of sweet in a way. Mama said knock you out. I'm going to knock you out. Mama said get you in a headlock.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Ask him a question that he hasn't been asked. But I do... The only reason I had podcast regret, which I've said before, is I realized when you interview anyone... Not even Paul McCartney. They cannot toot their own horn or pound their chest. But if you introduce something that's brilliant, then they can talk about it.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
We're educating today.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Is that safe?
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
People are lying flat in an arena and a bull is running over the top of them, but they're not all getting killed.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I'll just say this. The non-regulated society is interesting. I was doing a gig in Acapulco and I was out on my veranda looking down on the beach and I see like a maybe five, six year old walking up to a guy talking, talking, talking. He buys some cigarettes, likes the cigarette. The guy gives him a boost.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
He's bareback on a stallion, a horse, five years of age, smoking a cigarette, just going down the beach. I'm like, what the? Where is the safety helmet? Well, the old days, you know, we didn't wear helmets for sure on our bikes.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I'm going to kick you in the balls. Mom said, wrap a pizza around your face. I'm going to wrap a pizza around your face.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Did anyone witness this? Or is this a figment of your spade-a-mation?
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
You probably went five feet. Let's be honest.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
And I would go down a hill, a long, long hill, zigzag down. That's it? I wouldn't do it now. Well, look, I mean, a steep, long hill on a board with no helmet or safety.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Would you, if you tried to qualify for something of the world's world record.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
What would it be?
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Well, what did Mr. Beast, didn't he at one point just repeat someone's name for 24 hours? I don't know. Kelsey Grammer, Kelsey Grammer, Kelsey Grammer.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Kind of a genius. Could we get him on here and just have a genius?
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Yeah, we'll pair him with a Beastie Boy, you know, just because the symmetry of that. That's kind of funny, right? Yeah.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Is that how it starts? Yeah, don't call it a comeback. LL Cool J is cool.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
He was on, yeah, don't call it a comeback. I like LL Cool J. I think he also, he was on SNL as the host. And I had him in church chat in read-through. And then for whatever reason, he was perfectly good. For whatever reason, his part got cut. I wasn't sure the reason I did it.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Okay. That's it. What happened? What happened to your brother?
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I used to do this bit and I'll just do a little bit of it. Flight of fancy.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I just had a flight of fancy of people who've passed that are in a bunker beneath Las Vegas. And it would be Bobby and Jack Kennedy, Elvis and Hitler. And they're all in there and they fake their death and they're going to take over the world. So they're just hanging out for decades in there. Elvis, would you tell Adolf to stop staring at me? Come on, Elvis. I mean, come on, Hitler. I'm Elvis.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
You know, Bobby don't like it when you stare at him. I believe that Adolf Hitler doesn't know what he's doing. I don't know what he's saying.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
This is my pitch right back. The funny part is, I'm going to put on a dress and go to the shaft. You want to come with me, Jack? Yes, I will go with you. They're in Las Vegas in a bunker. I will stay here and teach Adolph English. Adolph, repeat after me. See. Shoust. Spot. Rope. Run. Fight. Oh, look, Bobby. Yeah. Here's that one word English in there. He just, it's just gibberish.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Oh, he can do better. Adolf. Repeat after me. See. Spot. So what do you think? I got a movie deal.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Well, because then, well, I'm rushing it. It's a 20-minute bit. Elvis is like, you know, Bobby, we've been in here, faked our death, been in here 40 years. He don't understand. Hide in our tale of English. Oh, yeah. Elvis, you're wrong. He does. Oh, watch this. A bird flew into a cave. Repeat after me, Adolph. A bird. Fart, fart. flew into a cave. Come on, Bobby. He's not speaking a word.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I believe that Bobby is making progress. I don't think he's doing it because he's easy. He does it because he's hard.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I will do a longer bit next time. I like it. Oh, it's shaft elevator and it goes on and on.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I don't remember. It wasn't a big part. But then later on, he saddled up and kind of was very serious. He goes, what was wrong? What'd I do? What'd I do? What'd I do wrong? I said, Lorne said, knock you out. Lorne said, cut you out. Knock him out. Okay, two more. Just before we go to Kendrick Lamar.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
History of baseball.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
That was too fast again.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
We can do it. Try to look like a mannequin.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Not... Not too bad.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
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Oh, yeah. That looks like it. Okay. These are human beings with entirely too much time on their hands. What else is on TikTok? They've been at the park for 17 hours. How about we pretend we're Minicans? I love you, Charlie.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
It's just the clicks and the views. They'll do anything. Look at us.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Rook. They tell him what they're moving. And he fucking smokes him.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
One of the best players in the world.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Seems like a beautiful person. Snoop Dogg.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Bishop to... Well, his latest one was that he has a guitar and he's playing Blackbird continually over and over again. And they put a bowl on his head and a blindfold around it. And he's 10 miles away. He beat 50 guys.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Hitting the bowl. And then he has to tune the guitar. You know what happens?
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
That was uplifting.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Yeah, definitely.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Yes. Remember, Busboys.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
February 2028.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
That's it. David Spade whips it out. That's your tour.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Drop It Like It's Hot was the first one. Oh, Drop It Like It's Hot. I played A Day in the Life for my kids, and they put on... Drop it like it's hot. Drop it like it's hot. Drop it like it's hot. Snoop. But talk about crazy catchy.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I like big butts. Drop it like it's hot. Mama said knock you out. And then the other thing I was introduced to hip hop and rap was Eminem. With a real slim gay. Please stand up. Please stand up. And so this is my introduction to how I perceive.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
No, I don't.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I still have a pretty good amount of chest hair. No, I don't. Not really. I'm Norwegian and Irish. I mean, come on.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
He sounds like an auctioneer. I mean, I'm not... I'm saying Mama Said Knock You Out. All I got, I couldn't get a... You couldn't decipher. Now, I don't know. I like Mama Said Knock You Out.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I just want to understand it, and I want the commenters to help me. I'm not... shedhane on it i'm just saying i don't quite get it and the early hip-hop rap was uh very very clear to me and i just trying to understand it also the whole diss song about drake i've heard drake stuff i really like it but that's uh kind of i agree that i listen if a song is about
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I'm telling you, I fluff and fold it. I have my secrets. I have my ointments and my oils and my moisturizers. But when I am no longer on camera in life, maybe, you know, in Italy cruising around, I'm going full Letterman. This Dutch main goes downtown, trims down. This goes way out, covers all the sins. No more Adam's apple.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I think I give Kendrick K.L. an A plus for the aesthetic, the dancing. And I did, I read an article in the New York Times. And it broke down all his visual elements. In other words, they used to call them MTV videos. And they are sort of brilliant. The visual is brilliant. It's growing on me already, the more I do it. Yeah, I mean...
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
No, he trimmed about two inches off it. So it just covers his collarbone. I don't know. But I think he looks good in it because... You know, all the stuff around here, not you, because you're kind of eternally youthful. Your new nickname is Peter Pan Spade. Christ sakes. But I think Letterman looks good. It's just an advantage men have. Women have to get facelifts. Men can grow a beard.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Yeezy.com or Yeez.com.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Well, as far as stealing focus, I put the bookends. He was there with his teeth, and I couldn't really talk. This is my new girls, and again, this is all I could do on an iPhone because I paid so much for the commercial, $8 million. So it's kind of brilliant. And then the bookend to that is Bill Murray going, hey-
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
you know, you might want to get another beer of a meantime, you know, Bill Murray, but yahoo.com. And I don't know what product that was for, unless it was for Yahoo.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That relationship, you know, my blink is not really equal. It looks like one person in the relationship is more dominant than the other. I'll leave the listeners, the viewers to figure out which one.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
It's a click-friendly world. If you really... I just thought... Two kids in love. Two kids in love. Let's leave it at that.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I just would like to... It's a Hallmark movie. It is. Look, I can say they're an adorable couple, and no one can say they're not. Yeah, there's nothing... You remember this song? Frankie Valli, 1983. No one knows what goes on behind closed doors.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Oh, Charlie Rich, right. I don't know where I put a bookmark guy in there.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
It's a little cryptic, isn't it? I mean, that would be good for like the serial killer. No one knows what goes on behind closed doors.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
So there, end of story, newsflash.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Hey, would you like some cocoa? Sure, babe. Do you mind putting on this see-through thong while you make the cocoa?
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I wish I was at a Kansas City Chiefs super party. I mean, everyone's got jerseys on Mahomes. They've got beers flowing. We got this. Oh, fucking Chiefs. 34 zip.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Make a clip out of that, Patrick.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
People literally took Magic Marker. They had a Mahone's jersey on and just crossed it off. I mean, fair weather fans. Jesus.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I know. Yellow mustard socks with little copper shoes. Exactly. Lots of buttons and little collars.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I mean, he looks super cool. That Clark on the bench, Clark Gable Harry, a little coming down. Oh, he's a fucking stud. But then they didn't publicize it. We went over and sat next to Taylor. And he goes, hey, baby.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
After the game when they lost. And she scooched over. She actually moved over.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I think that guy could retire from football and become another action hero.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
And actually, he's pretty funny and charismatic. He's good in commercials. Jason, he retires last year and they win the Super Bowl.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Who was that?
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Sort of. But, I mean, he would have got a ring. Missed it by 12 months.
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Those Kelsey brothers, they're an ecosystem now. Eco. And his wife. I mean, it's just they're everywhere all at once.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
No, the mom has a cooking show. The entire extended family. It's really cool to see an empire built from the ground up. They're the new Kardashians.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
Well, or not enough. I don't know.
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SUPERFLY #55 - Mama Said Knock You Out
I think I told this story, but I dropped shrooms in the early eighties and went to the LA County art museum, my friends and I, and it was like a cam of just a 40 foot white canvas with one red dot in the middle. And we, we had to go out in the stairwell. We laughed so hard. I mean,
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We're in the era that a Band-Aid, it's not a bit. It could just be a fashion choice. I remember the first dude I saw, dude, who had pants on, Levi 501s, and one pant leg was rolled up on the top of his knee. And first time I saw it, just walking around, what's up? No comment, no wound on the calf, but just one pant leg rolled up. I remember the first time I was going on the lot.
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Well, here's our experiment. We're going to book you at a big theater. You know, you tend to sell tickets. Big theater with the mic there. Ladies and gentlemen, David Spade is going to stay backstage for an hour. Enjoy the show.
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
You manage 350 billion or over a third of a trillion dollars, kind of a crazy number. In what way is your capital base an advantage? In what way is it a disadvantage?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
What else are you focused on?
How I Invest with David Weisburd
E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
So you're building up your liquidity in case there's a market drawdown. Do you internally sit around, wait for this drawdown and have almost a buy order if it drops by more than 20%? How do you operationalize the strategy of waiting for a trade-off? Managing a venture capital firm is complex. Fundraising, reporting, compliance, it all adds up. But what if there was a smarter way?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
You're shifting your assets into things that could become liquid if you need them to. What are some of those assets? Obviously, you don't want to be in equities, so maybe it's not equities, but what are some assets that have that option for liquidity?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
You've been in the capital markets for more than two decades. Is it always the case that when public markets sell off, the real opportunities are in the illiquid alternative assets? Or is that an oversimplified way to look at it?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
But it appears that the availability of liquidity would have been helpful in both of the crises. So that's the lesson learned.
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
You need to really have a prepared mind. You need to be ready for it, almost a visualization exercise to get the whole organization behind the strategy ahead of time.
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
Implicit to this is CalSTRS seems to have a very flexible governance structure that you're able to move very quickly on opportunities. Talk to me about your governance.
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
Why is it important for you to be the global partner of choice for the GPs that you work with?
How I Invest with David Weisburd
E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
CalSTRS is famous for utilizing structural alpha. What is structural alpha?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
Speaking to people about David Swenson, this really reminds me of his style where he would both advocate for Yale, he would advocate for other LPs, and he would also advocate for the GPs. You take a step back and you say, that kind of sounds nonsensical, but really it's non-zero-sum. If CalSTRS comes in and anchors a fund or anchors a new strategy, that's massive alpha for the GP.
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
CalSTRS is able to come in and capture some of that alpha. It truly is a win-win. It's truly a non-zero-sum arrangement.
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
You manage 350 billion or over a third of a trillion dollars, kind of a crazy number. In what way is your capital base an advantage? In what way is it a disadvantage?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
When we last chatted, you mentioned that you look for supply, demand and balances in the market. How do you find markets with supply, demand and balances? Thank you for listening to join our community and to make sure you do not miss any future episodes, please click the follow button above to subscribe.
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What's the minimum amount of timeframe that this supply-demand imbalance needs to exist for it to be interesting for CalSTRS?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
Your wife has been a teacher in California for over 30 years. Does that impact how you go about investing the pensions of California teachers?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
And you mentioned you focus on optimizing yourself, sleep. How else do you become better as a CIO? What do you read? What do you listen to? And how do you become better as a CIO?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
Those supply, demand, and balances become more obvious if you talk to enough people, you start to connect the dots, right?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
Well, Scott, this has been a masterclass on how to invest $350 billion. What would you like our listeners to know about you, about CalSTRS, and anything else you'd like to shine a light on?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
Thank you, Scott. I learned a lot. And thank you for taking the time. I will fly out to Sacramento. And I have a couple of people to see there. And I would love to host you in New York as well.
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Great. Thank you, Scott.
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So you divide it into public and private parts of the market. And the implicit understanding there is that the public side of the market, there's not much alpha there. So you don't want to be spending a lot on management fees. But on the private side, there is a lot of alpha. So you want to partner with managers there.
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
And you mentioned you want to be the global partner of choice, and there's different ways to do that, whether through JV, through anchor checks. What is CalSTRS ideal way to work with a private manager? And talk to me about the life cycle of partnering with a private manager.
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
What does CalSTRS look for in a GP before deciding to do a joint venture?
How I Invest with David Weisburd
E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
What are the benefits to the manager of partnering with CalSTRS?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
Scott, I've been excited to chat. Welcome to the podcast.
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And you're somebody that I would consider a contrarian thinker. How do you go about incorporating that contrarianism as the CIO of CalSTRS?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
What specific assets are you shifting towards if you're shifting away from global equities?
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E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan
Thank you, Scott. So how does one go about investing $350 billion?
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Yeah, we manage a lot of things in a unique way. I do feel like that's something different about us is that we've never merged our finances. I take care of the mortgage, she takes care of utilities. And we both kind of have our own separate accounts, which I do feel like might complicate the cross country move logistics.
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I'm proud that we do not Venmo or Zelle each other. I know there are some couples that do, but no, we're not at that level. But we've kind of just always had the you take care of this, I take care of that. We both in general feel that that's a fair way to do it.
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I think we're both making about the same amount. I might make maybe 10 or 20 percent more. But again, we've always done it the way that we do it. And I've not felt the need to bring up or cause a major problem. change as we prepare for what could be a cross country move.
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We're doing very well. I feel very fortunate to have the means to plan for a move like this and just feel like I have options. I feel like I should start this conversation by just acknowledging that I'm coming at this from a point of privilege, even being able to have this conversation and access funds from different accounts. And also family is available to help us out if needed.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, we live in a Western state and I grew up in a Midwestern state. So we're highly considering moving back that way to be closer to family. The state that we currently live in is just one that I've never thought would be the best to raise children.
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Growing up in the Midwest and just seeing how people interact with their neighbors, the weather and the climate is something that I also feel like is better. I live in a desert state and I want to move back to one with four seasons is nice.
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And again, just the biggest reason was just to be closer to family and a place for my children to know that this is where they're growing up and going to graduate from high school.
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I do think the cost of living in the state we're looking at is about 5% to 10% less than the state we're currently living in. To me, the biggest things with finances is hoping to get a similar salary in the new state, but also just not taking a huge hit in terms of moving costs.
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When I start to do the basic research about what it will cost to physically move a house of our size with all of our items and two small children, the numbers can be alarming. But I remind myself that millions of people have done this, but it's just something that's a little scary to start.
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I think I'm comfortable sharing that I am a high school teacher. I have spoken to a couple schools in the area we're considering moving to. I have had an interview that I'm still waiting to hear back about if that will be a possibility. My wife is... a journalist, and she has a potential job lined up that she could transfer within the same company.
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So we're both optimistic that a somewhat easy transition could happen with similar income levels, maybe adjusted for cost of living.
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The biggest one that comes to mind is just that I feel very fortunate to be well-respected at my current school. Just the other day, an administrator approached me already asking about plans for next year. I kind of had to delay and stall what I even said to that question. So I do think that my current school would notice and acknowledge my loss if I were to decide to leave.
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Yeah. And just again, just uprooting the place that I've lived for nearly 20 years to move back to the place where I grew up. But again, it's really just thinking about being close to family. I have two small children, both in elementary school. And I just think to myself, where do I want them to graduate high school?
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Correct. I was in the same school district from when I was second grade till I graduated. And I feel like that's powerful to just know that this is where I'm growing up. This is where I'm going to graduate from high school.
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The biggest one is just what should we do with our current home? We are homeowners. We've got about 10 years until the house will be paid off. The biggest question, again, is just renting versus selling. Our current mortgage is about $2,200 per month. A website like Zillow estimates that we could rent it out for $3,000.
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What are the key factors we should consider specifically related to being cross-country landlords with little to no property management experience? Well, Lisa, I'll let you take that.
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Yeah, I'm glad she mentioned that recommending a property manager. I will admit that I'm not the most handy homeowner myself. So having to deal with the middle of the night phone call 2,000 miles away, that obviously is something that would be a challenge in itself. So I was strongly considering the property management option.
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And again, Lisa, I think if we do go that route, that may be a strong consideration.
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I think that is the long term goal. Yes, we did consider possibly renting or we're fortunate to have family who would take us in for the first weeks or probably even month or two if needed. But yeah, one of my other biggest questions was just how to access funds for a down payment for a new home. I do feel fortunate that I do have a good amount of money saved across different
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account types, a Roth IRA, taxable investments, a 403B and cryptocurrencies. But if 50 to let's just say 50,000 to 150,000 or more down payment was needed, I was just curious, what should we consider in terms of tax implications withdrawing strategies? or just selecting which of those accounts to draw from.
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I currently don't have a large liquid down payment available, but with a couple months notice, I'm just curious, Lisa, your advice for where I could access a large down payment if needed.
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I do have the nerdy spreadsheet, but no, I have not taken the next step to really see the tax implications or exactly where I want to draw this money from. I just want to minimize the tax bill from potentially tapping into these accounts that in theory are for long-term growth, but this is obviously a major life change and I know that having access to this is definitely a time to use it.
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As a teacher, the goal is to obviously finish out the school year, which for me here would be the end of May.
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i wouldn't need to for for my job i would not have a nice about two months june and july to get out there but i just think the logistics of the move are also the most daunting it's just should we hire professional movers use a service like pods or u-haul or we also consider just selling a lot of our belongings and starting fresh i did get a quote from a few of these options but i'm just curious if if anyone else has on the call has an idea for
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Where should we start in terms of physically getting a four or five bedroom house with two small children 2,000 miles away?
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No, not gotten that far. I don't know if it comes across on the call, but feng shui is not in my vocabulary. That is not something that I think about. My wife, definitely I could see her once we find a place to live, realizing that, yeah, the couch or, yeah, a large piece of furniture just doesn't fit. So this is helpful feedback.
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I do think there's maybe an argument to sell and start fresh once we see what we need. Really just bringing the basics, I feel like would really make this a lot easier.
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I did reach out to pods. I did get a quote from them for one of their largest containers. I haven't looked into U-Hauls or professional movers yet, but I feel like the pods or the U-Haul option is going to be the least expensive. So yes, I have started that process, but again, just taking that next step is daunting.
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I hadn't considered that. That's great advice, Lisa. Thank you. Yeah, that would obviously make it way easier if we didn't have to sell anything and can maybe just charge a little bit extra giving them a fully furnished house.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Cross-Country Moving Tips and What a CFPB Shutdown Could Mean for You
Yeah, at this point, it's really just waiting to see if the job offer I'm looking for ends up coming through from the state we're looking to move to. So that's really where we're at. The timing as a school teacher, this is where we're entering kind of the time of the year when staff starts letting administrators know whether or not they plan to return.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Cross-Country Moving Tips and What a CFPB Shutdown Could Mean for You
So I'm kind of just playing the waiting game right now to see if this works out. But I know if it does, we're going to have to be frantically planning the move. So I really appreciate this advice.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
No, not gotten that far. I don't know if it comes across on the call, but feng shui is not in my vocabulary. That is not something that I think about. My wife, definitely I could see her once we find a place to live, realizing that, yeah, the couch or, yeah, a large piece of furniture just doesn't fit. So this is helpful feedback.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
I do think there's maybe an argument to sell and start fresh once we see what we need. Really just bringing the basics, I feel like, would really make this a lot easier.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
I did reach out to pods. I did get a quote from them for one of their largest containers. I haven't looked into U-Hauls or professional movers yet, but I feel like the pods or the U-Haul option is going to be the least expensive. So yes, I have started that process. But again, just taking that next step is daunting.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
I hadn't considered that. That's great advice, Lisa. Thank you. Yeah, that would obviously make it way easier if we didn't have to sell anything and can maybe just charge a little bit extra giving them a fully furnished house.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
Yeah, at this point, it's really just waiting to see if the job offer I'm looking for ends up coming through from the state we're looking to move to. So that's really where we're at. The timing as a school teacher, this is where we're entering kind of the time of the year when staff starts letting administrators know whether or not they plan to return.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
So I'm kind of just playing the waiting game right now to see if this works out. But I know if it does, we're going to have to be frantically planning the move. So I really appreciate this advice.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
Yeah, we manage a lot of things in a unique way. I do feel like that's something different about us is that we've never merged our finances. I take care of the mortgage. She takes care of utilities. And we both kind of have our own separate accounts, which I do feel like might complicate the cross-country move logistics.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
I'm proud that we do not Venmo or Zelle each other. I know there are some couples that do, but no, we're not at that level. But we've kind of just always had the you take care of this, I take care of that. We both in general feel that that's a fair way to do it.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
I think we're both making about the same amount. I might make maybe 10 or 20 percent more. But again, we've always done it the way that we do it. And I've not felt the need to bring up or cause a major change as we prepare for what could be a cross-country move.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
We're doing very well. I feel very fortunate to have the means to plan for a move like this and just feel like I have options. I feel like I should start this conversation by just acknowledging that I'm coming at this from a point of privilege, even being able to have this conversation and access funds from different accounts and also family is available to help us out if needed.
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Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
Thank you.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
Yeah, we live in a Western state and I grew up in a Midwestern state. So we're highly considering moving back that way to be closer to family. The state that we currently live in is just one that I've never thought would be the best to raise children.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
Growing up in the Midwest and just seeing how people interact with their neighbors, the weather and the climate is something that I also feel like is better. I live in a desert state and I want to move back to one with four seasons is nice. And again, just the biggest reason was just to be closer to family.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
and a place for my children to know that this is where they're growing up and going to graduate from high school.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
I do think the cost of living in the state we're looking at is about 5% to 10% less than the state we're currently living in. To me, the biggest things with finances is hoping to get a similar salary in the new state, but also just not taking a huge hit in terms of moving costs.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
When I start to do the basic research about what it will cost to physically move a house of our size with all of our items and two small children, the numbers can be alarming. But I remind myself that millions of people have done this, but it's just something that's a little scary to start.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
I think I'm comfortable sharing that I am a high school teacher. I have spoken to a couple schools in the area we're considering moving to. I have had an interview that I'm still waiting to hear back about if that will be a possibility. My wife is a journalist, and she has a potential job lined up that she could transfer within the same company.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
So we're both optimistic that a somewhat easy transition could happen with similar income levels, maybe adjusted for cost of living.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
The biggest one that comes to mind is just that I feel very fortunate to be well-respected at my current school. Just the other day, an administrator approached me already asking about plans for next year. I kind of had to delay and stall what I even said to that question. So I do think that my current school would... notice and acknowledge my loss if I were to decide to leave.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
Yeah. And just again, just uprooting the place that I've lived for nearly 20 years to move back to the place where I grew up. But again, it's really just thinking about being close to family. I have two small children, both in elementary school. And I just think to myself, where do I want them to graduate high school?
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
Correct. I was in the same school district from when I was second grade till I graduated. And I feel like that's powerful to just know that this is where I'm growing up. This is where I'm going to graduate from high school.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
The biggest one is just what should we do with our current home? We are homeowners. We've got about 10 years until the house will be paid off. The biggest question, again, is just renting versus selling. Our current mortgage is about $2,200 per month. A website like Zillow estimates that we could rent it out for $3,000.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
What are the key factors we should consider specifically related to being cross-country landlords with little to no property management experience? Well, Lisa, I'll let you take that.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
Yeah, I'm glad she mentioned that recommending a property manager. I will admit that I'm not the most handy homeowner myself. So having to deal with the middle of the night phone call 2,000 miles away, that obviously is something that would be a challenge in itself. So I was strongly considering the property management option.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
And again, Lisa, I think if we do go that route, that may be a strong consideration.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
I think that is the long-term goal. Yes, we did consider possibly renting or we're fortunate to have family who would take us in for the first weeks or probably even month or two if needed. But yeah, one of my other biggest questions was just how to access funds for a down payment for a new home. I do feel fortunate that I do have a good amount of money saved across different
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
account types, a Roth IRA, taxable investments, a 403B, and cryptocurrencies. But if 50 to, let's just say 50,000 to 150,000 or more down payment was needed, I was just curious, what should we consider in terms of tax implications, withdrawing strategies, or just selecting which of those accounts to draw from?
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
I currently don't have a large liquid down payment available, but with a couple months notice, I'm just curious, Lisa, your advice for where I could access a large down payment if needed.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
I do have the nerdy spreadsheet, but no, I have not taken the next step to really see the tax implications or exactly where I want to draw this money from. I just want to minimize the tax bill from potentially tapping into these accounts that in theory are for long-term growth, but this is obviously a major life change and I know that having access to this is definitely a time to use it.
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
As a teacher, the goal is to obviously finish out the school year, which for me here would be the end of May. I wouldn't need to, for my job, I would have a nice about two months, June and July, to get out there. But I just think the logistics of the move are also the most daunting.
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Should You Keep Your Old Home? The Financial Case for Selling vs. Renting
It's just should we hire professional movers, use a service like pods or U-Haul, or we also consider just selling a lot of our belongings and starting fresh. I did get a quote from a few of these options, but I'm just curious if anyone else on the call has an idea for where should we start in terms of physically getting a four or five bedroom house with two small children 2,000 miles away.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
121 - The Drones Have Been Here Before, Telepathy, and New Nuclear Tech
I hate spilling.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
121 - The Drones Have Been Here Before, Telepathy, and New Nuclear Tech
Oh, my gosh.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
121 - The Drones Have Been Here Before, Telepathy, and New Nuclear Tech
Who did this?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
121 - The Drones Have Been Here Before, Telepathy, and New Nuclear Tech
Who did that? It's in our little group chat. It's Anthony's baby. That's Josh. Anthony is a baby being bathed by Lionel. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
121 - The Drones Have Been Here Before, Telepathy, and New Nuclear Tech
1697.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
121 - The Drones Have Been Here Before, Telepathy, and New Nuclear Tech
Let me explain. I'm joking.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
121 - The Drones Have Been Here Before, Telepathy, and New Nuclear Tech
Was that a sympathetic gag?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
120 - Secret Societies and Schemes You've Never Heard of with Sam Tripoli
Yeah.
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Tukaj v naših odravljah nima renomeja sploh, ampak je super šola. Mogoče pa je veliko šol v okolici in potem se lahko zmišljuješ. Če imaš veliko možnosti, potem lahko izbiraš. Čeprav načinami ne bi smel, ampak ima rata ljudi. Ene šole bolj pohvalja kot druge.
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Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
It was beaming something at us, and then once when it deemed whatever it was doing, the task to be complete, then it turned off the hypnotic feeling of what it was doing. It didn't look like the beam was still even present at all when it started to move away. Again, when I said it, it kind of just turned it all off, or at least turned down the light and turned down the resonant frequency.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
To go from experiencing something that is so inescapably loud to fading out at the end of a song, it was pretty mind-blowing. All that happened in the span of maybe 20 seconds to where it was directly over us, and then it was completely out of sight in sound.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
about 20 seconds, but it didn't look like it was, it didn't like blast off or, you know, I seen the footage of UFOs where they will change direction and, you know, zip off at like unfathomable speeds. This one just seemed to kind of take its time and just move away. At that point, as crazy as it is to say, but I think we all just kind of went back to sleep. We all like made sure everyone was okay.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
It's almost frustrating that it's happening. I'm going to die. His limbs were just like, wrong.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
the guy that brought the hot cheetos into the tent slept through this whole thing. I don't know how he did, but at that point, I think he'd woken up and just be like, like, what? Like, what was happening, you guys? I heard something going on. Which is absurd. But... Yeah, I also remember there not being any sort of noise, any sort of crickets. I couldn't even hear the creek that was next to us.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
It was almost just like this thing had just sucked up all the noise out of the environment, even after it was long gone. It was just a completely dead night.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
We woke up the next day. Everything was where it was in the campgrounds. Nothing was blown away or out of the ordinary. Our cars were still there. I even noticed that the trash bag that we'd hung up had been completely untouched by any sort of wildlife when the previous night we had tied up the trash can and the raccoons had torn it to shreds.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
So it wasn't like we had done a spectacular job of tidying up, but just whatever. Yeah, nothing was disturbed at our campgrounds. It was almost like there wasn't even any wildlife around us in the first place. I was anticipating some sort of ear ringing.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
I was fortunate enough to have a childhood where my parents really valued music and live music, so they took me to concerts all the time when I was a kid. And the next day after a show, my ears would always be ringing. We didn't wear earplugs at the time, so ears would always be ringing. This, no ringing in the ears whatsoever. It was almost like it never had happened.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
My hearing was perfectly fine. It should have been affected and impacted. I've noticed tinnitus from way quieter things. And yeah, this did not cause any sort of damage to my ears. We just silently packed up just all the gear and whatnot and then we went home. We never really talked about it.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
Until like a few years later when we were all like hanging out at like a party or something like that and then we were sharing stories and whatnot and then... One of the guys brought it up and said, guys, remember we saw that UFO on the camping trip in Ojai? And I just remember a kind of a hush falling over the friend group, which was uncharacteristic because myself and my friends are pretty loud.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
And, you know, when we're telling stories together, we're pretty boisterous and laughing and whatnot and like yelling over each other. So I just remember everybody just kind of exchanging glances as if to say, Like, oh, shoot, like, you guys remember that too. It wasn't just me, you know?
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
My name's Dave. I live in the Bay Area. I just work as a software engineer up here just in the local tech hemisphere. I am actually from Southern California and grew up, I had a very normal childhood, had really no experiences in any sort of paranormal activity.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
It was a really sobering moment because I think all of us realized that what we had actually witnessed was actually reality. It was unexplainable, but it was certainly something that we had witnessed and we could no longer, you know, write it off as just a dream or something else that would be more easily explained. We never really got into the specifics of it.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
I think we were talked about, you know, the noise and the lights and whatnot. And we all concurred that we had witnessed the same things. I don't... We never really talked about it in detail, which I think we should at this point. But...
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
Yeah, we definitely agreed on the overall details of the UFO, but I do remember one detail that my friend felt like he was having this out-of-body experience, especially when looking at the lights and hearing the resonant frequency. but he just felt like his body was floating up.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
And then once when the aircraft started moving away and we were no longer like in its trance, he remembered like falling quickly back down to earth. Almost like somebody dropped him from like eight feet above and just he hit the ground. Like he said he could feel the force of his self like hitting the ground. I think it wasn't really awkward.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
I would say maybe the reason why we didn't really talk about it or address it was because I don't really think we're naturally superstitious people, or I guess we weren't at the time either. I also think it's maybe just the tendencies of teenage guys to not really talk about things, especially pretty traumatic things like that.
Otherworld
Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
This encounter definitely did traumatize a couple of the guys that were also on the trip. I personally don't have any sort of resulting trauma from it, but it was never like discussed as like, wow, it wasn't that crazy. It wasn't that cool. It was always a, yeah, that was really messed up. What was that? We don't really know what that was.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
Also, some of the guys on the trip were pretty religious at the time. I'm not personally religious. I've never really been religious at all. So witnessing that didn't really shake my belief systems, but I'd imagine that the guys who were pretty religious might have had trouble coping with it, really. I didn't tell my parents either. Had I told my parents, I don't think they would have believed me.
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They were naturally pretty rational people, I guess you could say. So I think they would have just assumed that I was like, you know, smoking too much weed or whatever or whatnot. I don't think they would have believed me at all. After that happened, I was trying to rack my head about like what that could have been besides, you know, a UFO. And I thought it could have been a helicopter.
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But I could tell that it was a couple hundred feet off the ground. And normally, you know, I live in the Bay Area in Oakland, and there's police helicopters flying around all the time, and those fly pretty high up in the air. But you can still hear the chopper blades, you know, slicing through the air. And I'd imagine that if a helicopter is flying, pretty low to the ground.
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Grew up just kind of vaguely believing in this stuff and never really thinking that it would actually come to fruition or that I would ever really experience anything like this. But that all changed when in the summer of 2013, in between my sophomore and junior year of high school, me and my group of guy friends wanted to do like a little weekend getaway camping trip to Ojai, California.
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It would be still disturbing the wind around us. And I recall just no sound coming out of the craft other than just the resonant frequency that it was emitting. There's no sort of sound that it was jet propulsion or whatever. In a weird way, I just remember how silent everything else was around us. There was no sound of coyotes howling or any sort of disturbances to the nature around us.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
It was a pretty run-down campsite, so it didn't have any really amenities. It barely had plumbing, just some outhouses. So there's no machinery around there or construction happening. There's nothing that could actually really produce... a noise like that, let alone a noise at that scale.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
And that's why I was so entranced when I first woke up to see this craft overhead, was because even in my half-asleep, half-awake stupor, I knew that what it was was not an organic thing. It wasn't of planet Earth. There's no way it could have been a helicopter. It was this complete otherworldly entity that was present in our space.
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I had just never heard any sort of noise like that ever in my lifetime up until that point. It just had the characteristics of nothing that I'd ever heard of. I'll never forget that noise. It's hard to describe, but I'll never forget that feeling of witnessing something that was just completely beyond the scope of my understanding, even now and as an adult, let alone as a 16-year-old kid.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
After that, I had a pretty, you know, continuing on my pretty normal high school experience. My parents were always big about me getting into, you know, higher education. So I went to college in the central coast of California. I got an engineering degree, graduated, met my wife there. You know, pretty run-of-the-mill experience for a young, upwardly mobile person, I guess.
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After everything, I just... proceeded to move on with my life, graduated, got a job, moved in with my girlfriend from college, and just carried on as usual. All that really changed in 2019, so about seven or eight years later, after my encounter with the UFO. I was going on a trip with some friends from college. At that point, I had graduated, and we were going on a trip to Palm Springs.
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It was the day that we were flying into Palm Springs, and my girlfriend said, hey, I'd love to do this really cool thing. It's called a sound bath. It's this meditative experience, and they have a sound bath out in Joshua Tree, so I'd really love to do that before we go meet up with everybody at the Airbnb.
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And I think I was just too fixated on, like, partying with my friends that I was just, like, didn't really think anything of it. I was just like, yeah, yeah, sure, we can go do that. I kind of was just thinking, like, this is just some kind of new-aged woo-woo bullshit. But, yeah, I'll do it, you know. My girlfriend wants to do it. Let's go. So we drive. to the outskirts of Joshua Tree.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
I remember about, it was over an hour drive from the Palm Springs airport to this place. And the place we go to is called the Integratron. So we get to this place, it's like this, it's out in the middle of the desert. There's like a few derelict gas stations, but it's really in the outskirts of the Mojave. We get to this little kind of ranch or area.
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We were working a little odd-end summer jobs, and so we were accruing like a little bit of money in allowances. So we wanted to kind of have that taste of freedom and like, oh, let's go on a trip all together. And we wanted to do a camping trip.
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And in the middle of the ranch, there's this massive building. It's like maybe 30, 40 feet tall. It's two stories. And it has this massive white dome over it. And that is what is called the Integratron. And that's where the sound bath took place. So we get into the building and we walk up the stairs into the second floor of the Integratron. So we're in the dome of the Integratron.
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And we're all oriented in a circle. We're given blankets and pillows to lie down. It's just a complete meditative experience. And you close your eyes. And then the person that's leading the sound experience has these massive quartz bowls that they are, you know, rubbing the rim with like a wand or something to generate a frequency. So I'm laying there with my eyes closed.
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And the person leading the meditation starts rubbing the rims of the quartz bowls with this wand. And I was taken aback because I immediately recognized that frequency as the same exact frequency that was generated by the UFO that I experienced all those years prior. It was unmistakable. I'll never forget that sound, and I knew right away that it was the same exact frequency.
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You know, the same exact frequency. sensation of feeling like the sound had permeated my bones and my head. I could feel it in my spine rattling all of my joints. Another interesting detail about the Integratron is that it is acoustically perfect. So it's the parabolic nature of the dome makes it so that on the edges of the walls where we were all laying down is like the frequency hotspots.
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So the frequencies generated by the quartz bowls were being amplified off of the walls. And so that definitely contributed to the overall intensity of the frequency. After a while, almost again like anesthesia, I unknowingly just kind of slipped out of consciousness.
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And so we looked at some of the local places like El Capitan Ranch on the coast, like central coast, and these kind of boutique camping experiences that are like a few hundred dollars a night. So we said, you know, screw that. We're just going to find the cheapest campsite that we can find, which was this place called Wheeler Gorge in Ojai. And it costs like $40 a night. So between...
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
I think it was the only time of my life that I've truly had an out-of-body experience where I felt like I was no longer in my physical vessel. And I remember what accentuated this was that Like kind of towards the end, it was like an hour long, this whole experience. It felt like ages. It felt like a day I was in this kind of stasis, you know, entranced by the frequencies of the quartz bowls.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
And I recall somebody else that was doing the sound bath, not part of our party, but just some other guy, had fallen asleep and then started like audibly like snoring. And the snore completely took me out of the experience. But the reason I bring this up is that when I hear that initial snore, again, it felt like my body just came crashing down to earth, like I was floating 10 feet above the air.
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And then someone just dropped me, and I just slammed back into my body, like my friend had said when he was witnessing the UFO. And the feeling of like falling back down to earth, like almost like your spirit is now being influenced by gravity. It was now back under the influence of gravity, the same kind of accelerating, this wham of just smacking into the floor.
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But again, my body had never left the floor. It was like truly transcendental. I'll never forget that feeling. But my main takeaway from that was it was the exact same frequency as the UFO.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
And also similar to the previous UFO experience was that I went into the sound bath experience equally as, you know, as non-believing, you know, kind of with an attitude of like, oh yeah, it's just a meditation, okay, whatever, it's not really going to do anything. But then I had this incredibly impactful experience. Same thing with the camping trip.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
I didn't think UFOs even existed, let alone did I think that I was going to encounter one on that trip, but then lo and behold, that's what happened. Hearing that sound again was really unnerving. I had previously thought that that sound was not possible to be created by a human. It was not an organic sound, but at the same time too, it was also somewhat comforting.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
From that point on, I knew that whatever UFO I had seen was not antagonistic. If anything, it was just, it was like a kind of a wandering, you know, vessel that was just maybe like collecting data on humans and just happened to stumble upon us. Because the sound bath was such a peaceful and positive experience overall.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
I still think about it to this day about just how much that impacted me too, but in a good way. And so having that experience was able to kind of demystify the UFO that I'd seen and demystify that experience as not one that's traumatic, but just one, it's just like another encounter that you would have with another creature that you're sharing space with, I guess.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
Like it's like encountering like a deer, you know? It was, I mean, just mind blowing, really. Especially when you're not actually like looking to piece information together and then everything fits or seems to align really well. Once again, it was very validating about this newfound perspective and belief that, you know, there is probably something out there that we don't really know about.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
A group of eight guys, we just like pulled together some money. It was about the most that we could afford at the time. These were all like my best guy friends. You know, even now, some of them were like, you know, groomsmen in my wedding. So it's my friends, Zach and Diego. Those are like my best friends. They both played football with me and they...
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
And maybe there is a higher consciousness that we as humans can aspire to. It's made me a more spiritual person, I think. Not as in a religious spirituality, but just in a spirituality that my own being and my own consciousness is part of a larger ecosystem. I am not the individual, I am a part of the collective.
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Especially at the time where I had just graduated college, I had just started working in engineering. And, you know, engineering, kind of the prevailing sentiments amongst a lot of people that, like, work in this industry is all about, you know, money and...
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aspirational wealth and, you know, career and all these things that are kind of superfluous, really in the grand scheme of things, and don't really actually matter. And just having this experience, this truly kind of transcendental experience is... solidified my overall feeling of just, oh wow, we're like, we're all part of something so much bigger than ourselves.
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And if only we're all given the opportunity to be shown that, you know, I feel almost grateful that I was able to experience this and to be shown that.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
were, I wouldn't really call them tough, but they were certain, like I'm definitely more on the softer side, and they were the guys that kind of brought me out of my, you know, shy, sensitive shell, and really kind of be bros with me. There was Diego's brother, who's this very like stoic guy, and There was two other guys. One guy, we don't really keep in touch with him.
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His name is Daniel, but he was a devoted, like sober guy, like didn't drink whatsoever. Like this guy was dead sober the entire time. And then there was two other guys, a guy named Al and a guy named Brian. They were in our friend group at the time as well. So we set out, we load up my old Toyota truck with all of the supplies.
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We had like, I think, two racks of beer and we got like, you know, a bunch of hot dogs, you know, typical like teenage boy cuisine and whatnot. And we drove out, it was like in the summer, so it was like super, super hot in Ohio. It was like 90 to 100 degrees, super dry, barely any sun coverage at the campground, barely any people at the campground too. It was just like this...
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you know, your typical campground, you know, supervisor guy that lives on premise. And he just came up to us and was like, hey, guys, you know, I basically called our bluff, was like, I know you guys have alcohol. I know you guys are underage. It's cool. I won't bother you. Just, like, don't burn down the forest and we'll be friends.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
So we were definitely left to our own devices, and it was just so, so remote out there. And Wheeler Gorge is about 30 minutes inland from Ojai, so it's even deeper into the mountains and even more remote. You know, one of those places where you lose service about 20 minutes away from the campsite, and it's just kind of a dead zone. So the first day we were there, you know, nothing too crazy.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
You know, we just played beer pong for like five hours or so, just hung out, you know, typical camping stuff. We all shared this one big family-sized tent that my buddy Zach had brought. So we're all kind of sardined next to each other, side by side. And because it was so hot, we also slept without the tarp on top of the tent.
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Just because there was no moisture, we wanted to be able to see the stars and the whole sky. Because it was so remote, there was no light pollution, so we were able to do that. There was tons of raccoons, though, so the raccoons were just completely shredding through our garbage the entire night, so I remember being kept up by them.
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My buddy Brian had snuck in a bag of hot Cheetos into the tent for, like, a little late-night snack, and anybody that's ever been camping knows that you don't keep any food in the tent just for that reason. So the first night, we actually got woke up by a family of raccoons breaking into our tent and undoing the zipper and, like, climbing all over us. So...
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Yeah, it was just funny, all the commotion of that. You know how people say like, oh, raccoons have hands? They actually have like little hands. I felt one like step on my thigh and I felt like it was almost just like a shrunken human hand just pressed onto my thigh. So we woke up the next day, you know, had some breakfast, just kind of shook off the night before.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
I think we ended up going on a hike, or at least trying to. It was so hot that we couldn't actually really go up on the mountain. And I'm kind of glad that we did not because I'm sure we probably didn't have the necessary supplies. We were all kind of worn out from the festivities of the day before. So I kind of took it a little bit easier, just listened to music.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
I think at one point we actually went into town just to get more supplies, really just hung out and just chatted and goofed off like we normally did, but just camping.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
I was feeling pretty tired and just kind of over the festivities, so I just decided to take it easy and just help out making dinner and make some s'mores and whatnot and just kind of have a quieter evening in preparation of going home the next day. So we all went to bed pretty early, around like 10 or 11 or so.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
I was pretty much smack dab in the middle of the tent, just so I had a pretty clear view looking up into the sky. I recall not being obstructed by any sort of trees or even like barely even like the tent poles or whatnot. So I had a pretty clear view of everything. We learned our lesson from the previous night. We got rid of all the food out of the tent.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
We hung up our garbage bags on a nearby tree to get them out of reach for the critters and whatnot. So... around one or two in the morning, I hear more commotion. I wake up to my friend, I forget who, I think it was like my Diego's brother or something, like yelling, like, what the fuck is that? Like, what is that?
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
And my initial thought is like, Brian brought more hot Cheetos into the tent and something else, like a coyote got into the tent. So I woke up disgruntled, but when I actually became conscious, I realized, like, what was actually happening.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
My sight and hearing are, like, the first to come, and I'm, like, curled up in my sleeping bag, so I couldn't really see, but I remember hearing this really, really loud humming frequency, like... like just this noise just ringing in my head. And one thing that I recall about this was that it wasn't like a loud volume like you'd hear at like a concert or whatnot, like an artificially loud volume.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
It was like my entire body and skeleton was just resonating with this frequency. It was incredibly loud. It was so loud, it was inescapable. You couldn't plug your ears to get away from it. But it wasn't like a splitting, like overly loud concert sound. Like I'm a musician, I play live all the time. Our band, being in a metal band, we're pretty loud.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
And so, you know, we wear ear protection because otherwise it's just like that super loud splitting, you know, ear ringing volume. But this didn't really have the same characteristics. This was something that like permeated my skull. Like I'd almost hear like my teeth rattling in my head. It was just inescapable, this loud, just humming noise.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
You could try to plug your ears with your fingers and then hum. Like that. And you can hear the hum kind of rattle in your head. You really hear it inside of your head as opposed to this directional sound. sound that's coming into your ears. It's almost like this is coming from inside of your body and then spreading outwards out of your body. You just can't get away from it.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
You just can't get it out of your head. And so I kind of wipe the sleep out of my eyes and I look up and there's just this incredibly bright light just beaming down directly on top of us. so bright that it was obscuring not only its own shape, but I couldn't really see anything around me. I couldn't really see any of the trees. I could barely even see my car that was parked 20 feet away.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
Whenever you come out of an operation, You know, you get out of the anesthesia cloud and you have those, it's like this big center bright light and then like a few lights kind of scattered lining the center light. Kind of like an overhead fixture that you'd see in like a hospital. But it was just massive. And I could tell it was massive because
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
It was burning with, like, the same ferocity of, like, an overhead lamp, like, direct, like, you know, a foot over your face. But it was clear that whatever this was was maybe a couple hundred feet in the air. So just tons and tons of light, like, bright, hot, yellow light beaming down on us. Whatever it was... knew that we were there and it was still nighttime.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
And I actually, I could see like a rough circular outline, but because the light was just so bright and directed and like in our eyes, it's just really hard to tell what exactly it was. The whole time it's just hovering there, beaming down on us and, you know, just vibrating and emitting this resonant frequency. And I recall after everybody woke up, We were, it was just very silent.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
You know, we weren't screaming like when the raccoon had gotten in the tent. We were just all laying there, silently looking up at it, like transfixed at this beaming light that was pointed down at us. I didn't recall feeling this way, but one of my friends on the trip had said that he felt like, almost hypnotized by it.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
Like, he was, like, it was, like, pulling him up and, like, he was floating, though obviously nobody left the ground, but just, like, the feeling, like, his energy was being, like, pulled upwards. I could see just because of, like, the blocking out of, like, the stars and the constellations that it was... probably the length of like a school bus, I would say.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
So it was quite large, but it was a circle too. That's another kind of thing that felt like kind of incredulous was that This particular craft kind of looked like a lot of the UFOs that I'd seen, you know, in media in my childhood. But it was unmistakably circular. It did not look like it was spinning or rotating. It just looked like it was, like, this static hovering object over us.
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It didn't look like it was tilting due to, like, balancing issues, you know, like a helicopter would. It was just perfectly static floating in the air, like, weightless, basically. But it was massive. The lights seemed to take up most of, if not all, of the surface area of the underneath of the craft, which I assume what we were looking at was the underneath of the craft.
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But again, just due to the bright directional lights, I could only really make out just the general shape and the size of it. It looked to be pure black. Now, whether it was the material was black or it was, you know, refracting the light around it, like almost like cloaking. Who's to say? It looked like solid material. It didn't have any sort of shine like metal would. Almost like there's this...
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artificial color black called Vantablack. It's the blackest black that there is. So it looked like it wasn't even really registering the light, just no reflection of the light at all. I remember feeling just like a huge knot in my chest of dread. Like not knowing what it was going to do, whether or not we were going to be okay. I remember thinking, like, are we about to be abducted?
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
Like, are we going to be, like, pulled into, like, a tractor beam or whatnot? So that's why it was really interesting when one of the other people there was saying that they felt like they were floating looking at it, like, almost, like, hypnotically. But I remember just laying there in paralyzed fear, knowing that We were at the mercy of it.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
It knew we were there and at this point could do whatever it wanted with us. We had no cell service. We couldn't call anybody. I'm not even sure we would have had time to do anything. We just were, I remember just laying there paralyzed in fear, just like looking at it silently. We just sat there all transfixed in complete silence at this thing that was floating up over us.
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Episode 122: Hum Over Ojai
And eventually after maybe a minute of it just hovering over us, it just slowly just floated away. As it started to move away from it, it almost felt like it had turned off the hypnotic qualities of the light. It noticeably got quieter immediately as it started to move. So it was almost like
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Grass.
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Can we get it right? The worst winter I ever spent was the summer I spent in San Francisco.
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But it wasn't the quote you said either. I know, so I don't have to respect the quote if it's not a real quote.
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It's a Tuesday for people to feel that in their job, but you don't manifest it, especially when you're a professional athlete in the public view. You don't manifest it by walking off the field the way he did. The image that we haven't shown... He's hurt, David. He wasn't limping. No, no, no. He is hurt. His ego is hurt, yes.
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It's a designer hammer. I've never heard that. It was like a specially designed hammer. Like a Louis Vuitton wrapped hammer?
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That's what I would expect. Count me in on the Bahamas Bowl. What are you shaking your head about, Samson? All I'm hearing from Hawkins, and I'm happy working with him today, but all I'm hearing are things that I have such contempt for that I'm having a hard time because I'm trying. I'm trying to like you. You have a Yankee hat on. You're talking about walking out.
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You're talking about not telling a coach that you won't go in to catch a punt. And now you're saying that you don't want to practice the extra for a bowl game. I thought it was business first with you, David. I thought that was. The business is telling your coach that you're going to go in. That's like saying, oh, I'm not good at bunting. Don't put the bun sign on.
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Andrew Hawkins on De'Vandre Campbell Quitting
Owners like comfort. It's like comfort food. They go back to people, and that's the talk of Belichick going back to some of his old assistant coaches. It's a weird thing that owners have when there's openings. They want to bring people back.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Andrew Hawkins on De'Vandre Campbell Quitting
Think about George Steinbrenner with Billy Martin, old reference, but you bring them back again and again, and owners have always been like that, and everybody's smart. They're starting these consulting companies. where you get paid to perform a job that anyone could do without being paid to do it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Andrew Hawkins on De'Vandre Campbell Quitting
So when you're being paid to sell a team, if you want to sell a team, you raise your hand and say you're selling a team and people come to you. When you've got an opening for GM, what they're saying is we can identify kids in a way that you can't, but that's not how it works actually.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Andrew Hawkins on De'Vandre Campbell Quitting
Well, wait, the situation, just to be clear, is that he had started 12 of the first 13 games. He was second on the team in tackles. But then Greenlaw, who he had replaced because he had an Achilles injury, Greenlaw got healthy. He gets his starting job back. And then Campbell's back on the bench. But then Greenlaw said, oh, I got a little thing. I got a thing.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Andrew Hawkins on De'Vandre Campbell Quitting
And then the coach said, all right, we're going back to you. And Campbell said, you didn't want me. An hour ago, forget it. And he literally walked off. Are we really going to act like we don't understand that a little bit? A little bit of that logic. I'd release him on the spot. I would have gone to the locker room and released him on the spot.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Andrew Hawkins on De'Vandre Campbell Quitting
I don't care if he's on waivers and goes to a playoff team. I don't want him in that uniform again. It's a disgrace. But, David, wait a second. Let's hear Hawk out because there's a human element.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Andrew Hawkins on De'Vandre Campbell Quitting
If I'm extra lonely and I'm on a cold streak, that sounds like a you problem, David.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Andrew Hawkins on De'Vandre Campbell Quitting
I bought the over-under to 17. So I have no idea why anyone's upset at all. I did a Stugatz. The 12-6 game was a barn burner. Loved every minute of having six field goals.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Andrew Hawkins on De'Vandre Campbell Quitting
So I viewed that as a positive.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Andrew Hawkins on De'Vandre Campbell Quitting
Oh, I hate it. I think it is, again, the sneakiest way to add four preseason football games. What about the day after the Thursday game? It may have been a bad game, but now they get 10 days off.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Andrew Hawkins on De'Vandre Campbell Quitting
That's my kind of guy.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Andrew Hawkins on De'Vandre Campbell Quitting
It's San Francisco.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Andrew Hawkins on De'Vandre Campbell Quitting
All of a sudden, it came out of nowhere. It's the worst weather city of all the baseball cities. Seattle's worse. Plain and Candlestick Park, there's a roof. But Plain and Candlestick Park, I don't know if you ever did, but it's the worst.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
So, to give you some background, I met my wife in June of 21, got married in January of 2023, so we're almost at our two-year anniversary. And before I met my wife, I was a pretty rabid alcoholic-slash-gambling addict, and I was clean for about two years prior to meeting her. So when I met her, you know, if she would drink, I would use cannabis, no issues.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
Uh, but I started telling her more about, you know, like recovery, watching intervention, stuff like that. I like shows like that. She was like, Oh wow. Like, you know, you shouldn't be using anything.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
And I'm sitting there thinking, okay, well, when I went to rehab back in 2018, I mean, a lot of people would say, I don't know what your thoughts are, but basically they're not, if you shouldn't be doing anything at all, you should be totally sober. And I would say 9% of people I've met or healthcare professionals agree with that. I'm almost six years sober in those two issues in February.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
And now my wife saw my case quite a bit. You know, she just thinks I shouldn't be doing anything. It's like taking a big risk. And it's starting to annoy me and cause a little bit of issue. So I was kind of curious to get your feedback on that. Everything else is great. It's just this one little issue that it's kind of causing bigger issues.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
Well, I guess that's fair. She says, like, I'm not present. I guess to you it's something she has said.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
Which is fair. And I guess here in Canada, like, we do have it legalized. That's something I used, to be honest with you, a crush when I quit drinking back in 2019. They just legalized it.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
I don't know, to be honest with you, like I'm in the military here in Canada and you know, it's the only thing I can really do. I know I'm being honest with you. I'm just saying I feel like that's something that I can get my hands on that's not me having trouble with work, so I do it.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
But also, too, it's probably a bad answer, but my wife's having a few drinks on a Friday night, and I want to smoke up a bit. I really don't see the issue there because I don't mind that she drinks. That's not a factor at all. That's something that really, I guess, during the past time that I kind of feel like she's partaking and I should be able to as well, I guess, would be how I feel about that.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
That's a really good point. And the funny thing is we're both actually retiring in a couple of months, kind of forced out on medical. So we're going to have like, work won't be a thing there anymore. We're going to kind of have the ability to travel and do whatever we want and Maybe this might just be the addict in me talking, but I feel like as soon as I have that, I'm kind of out of a position.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
I know I say that, but I'm saying right now that's how it feels to me. When I have that ability, I'm not really going to have that need anymore. That's kind of the way I'm looking at it. I've got a couple more months, but then it's still obviously causing a bit of tension.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
No, no, I drank, uh, I joined at 17. So it's kind of hard to tell you. And also I've been doing the military for 18 years now. It's all I've done. Okay. It's all you know. You really get to build, build, build, you know, and you can be alcoholics in the military. No problem.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
Um, the gambling thing kind of cycled with me from, uh, when taking my first step within a year, I was in rehab, like that hit me like a, like a truck, uh, Um, so yeah. And the funny thing is about never developing the gambling addiction, I would still be drinking today, but I don't know. I never felt like I had a problem with alcohol, which is strange to say, but looking back, I'm like, cool.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
Yeah. Well, with gambling, you know, you win and lose a hundred thousand dollars a day. You realize you have a problem pretty quick. Yeah, absolutely.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
No, no, that's fair. There's probably something else I should mention. It's going to make me sound like not a great dude. But when she brings this up to me, I kind of just default and say, well, you know what? You can just leave. I know it's wrong. I know it's, you know, especially if my wife tells me she feels abandonment issues in the past and her childhood.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
And I know that's like the worst thing I can say, but I'm like, just like kind of what you're saying. If you're not going to take me for me, then. Which I know is a horrible thing to say.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
Yeah. Yeah. And I'm just, uh, it's funny cause you can come up with anything to rationalize and be like, well, at least you didn't know me when I used to drink or at least when I, you know, but you know that as well as I do, that's stupid.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
You're going back to a facility? Or do you mean just in terms of resources?
The Dr. John Delony Show
Can I Be Married and Still Have Friends?
Okay. No, that's a, that's a good point. I always do feel the need. I need to be doing something, which I know is, you know, some addiction coming in a different form, but no, no, that's, that's good advice. I do have some time left before I'll be you know, out and be able to not have those resources. So no, that's pretty, pretty clear cut advice. I don't think there's too much to agree there.
The Glenn Beck Program
Bud Light Insider Reveals What Led to Dylan Mulvaney Controversy | Guest: Anson Frericks | 2/20/25
Hi, Glenn. First of all, thank you guys, you and your team. God bless you guys for doing what you do. Thank you. You're welcome. I've been doing this since I was, well, since the 80s. I'm going to be 57. I've been in IT since My whole entire career. The adoption is going to happen whether we want it to or not. How we adopt it is up to us. I've always said it's a tool. It's like a hammer.
The Glenn Beck Program
Bud Light Insider Reveals What Led to Dylan Mulvaney Controversy | Guest: Anson Frericks | 2/20/25
You can either build something with it or bludgeon someone with it. But what we have to do is educate our families and our children on things that AI can't do. Yes, yes. So the adoption is going to be much faster than from horses to cars. I used to tell people, because I did a lot of training, people would say, well, I don't need a computer to do this.
The Glenn Beck Program
Bud Light Insider Reveals What Led to Dylan Mulvaney Controversy | Guest: Anson Frericks | 2/20/25
And I used to tell people, I'm not telling you how to do your job, I'm training you to keep your job. In other words, you've got to adapt. Und jetzt denke ich, es wäre fantastisch, wenn jemand Grock benutzt hätte, um Gott existiert zu prüfen, weil dann würde jeder gleich mit ihm folgen. Aber ich werde immer gefragt, weil ich das tue. Und ich habe Freunde und Familie und Co-Arbeiter.
The Glenn Beck Program
Bud Light Insider Reveals What Led to Dylan Mulvaney Controversy | Guest: Anson Frericks | 2/20/25
Und ich weiß, dass es manchmal sie irritiert, aber ich komme zurück zu Joshua 1,9. Ich kann das nicht fürchten. Sei stark und ehrgeizig. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Sure. Sure. We just have to be educated, aware.
The Glenn Beck Program
Best of the Program | Guest: Anson Frericks | 2/20/25
Hi, Glenn. First of all, thank you guys, you and your team. God bless you guys for doing what you do. Thank you. You're welcome. I've been doing this since I was, well, since the 80s. I'm going to be 57. I've been in IT since my whole entire career. The adoption is going to happen whether we want it to or not. How we adopt it is up to us. You know, I've always said it's a tool. It's like a hammer.
The Glenn Beck Program
Best of the Program | Guest: Anson Frericks | 2/20/25
You can either build it, build something with it or bludgeon someone with it. But what we have to do is educate our families and our children on things that AI can't do. There will be still things out there that AI can't do. You want to have a purpose? Find something that AI can't replace you. Unfortunately, I'm in IT. I'm sure it's going to replace me. I'm toward the end of my road here.
The Glenn Beck Program
Best of the Program | Guest: Anson Frericks | 2/20/25
But I do have children and grandchildren. My goal now is to be sure that they know what's coming. We've raised generation on iPads. So the adoption is going to be much faster than from horses to cars. I used to tell people, because I did a lot of training, people would say, I don't need a computer to do this.
The Glenn Beck Program
Best of the Program | Guest: Anson Frericks | 2/20/25
And I used to tell people, I'm not telling you how to do your job, I'm training you to keep your job. In other words, you've got to adapt. Und jetzt denke ich, es wäre fantastisch, wenn jemand Grock benutzt hätte, um Gott existiert zu prüfen, weil dann würde jeder sofort folgen. Aber ich werde immer gefragt, weil ich das tue. Und ich habe Freunde und Familie und Mitarbeiter.
The Glenn Beck Program
Best of the Program | Guest: Anson Frericks | 2/20/25
Und ich weiß, dass es sie manchmal irritiert, aber ich komme zurück zu Joshua 1,9. Ich kann das nicht fürchten. Sei stark und ehrgeizig. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Sure. Sure. We just have to be educated, aware.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
We'll be coming in just two weeks to start the build ahead of the event. So we've got acts such as McFly. We've got Sam Ryder. We've got Melanie See. It's a whole host of music acts. But obviously the sort of main draw is the food from top chefs across the country. Dishes from Seven Pounds. Amazing dishes, I might add. We got a taste of those in Marlow last month.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
I can promise you that they're going to be very exciting. And also, actually, this year we have some new local music acts, which we did not have last year.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
Wherever we bring Pump in the Park, we want to get the local community involved. So to have somebody that's got a ready-made roster of great talent locally and to bring them on stage with people like Mel C and Sam Ryder and sharing that space is not just incredible for them but also for us and show that we actually have the local community in our mind when we come to these amazing spaces.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
You know, it will be a huge stage in front of, you know, thousands of people that are waiting to just enjoy a great weekend in the sunshine.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
What else is going to be different? So I think the biggest thing that you'll notice is new menus. So the menus this year across the restaurants, we've got some new restaurants, we've got some updated restaurants. We've also got our chef specials. So each of our restaurants has been sort of challenged with creating
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
A pub in the park special, something you won't get in their restaurants or anywhere else. They're a little bit more expensive, but they're a little bit bigger. The chefs have got creative with ingredients. Ginger wings, for instance, have got some caviar on top of their chicken wings. So, you know, they've kind of got all out. So it's very exciting for that. We've got our fire pit demo stage.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
So you'll see live fire pit cooking from some incredible people, including DJ BBQ. And he's also bringing his restaurant. So his restaurant is like none of the others because he's got a huge fire pit next to it. It's being served to you fresh from the barbecue. There's no sort of reheating or anything like that. It is off the barbecue that day. So I think that is very exciting.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
He was at Marlow and yeah, there's a huge sort of DJ set that's going alongside the cooking as well. So it's a very, very experiential sort of moment for people to kind of take part in. So I would definitely recommend sort of stopping by his area. My stomach is rumbling already. You're holding on to yours, I notice as well.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
One of the things that we really wanted to do this year was really focus in on each location. Ten shows, as you might imagine. It's quite a lot to get through in a year. And what we really wanted to do was get under the skin of these great towns that we're coming back to. So we're coming back to Marlow, Chiswick, St Albans and, of course, Reigate.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
And Reigate is relatively new for us in terms of location. So Marlow's been, you know, since the beginning, Chiswick from the second year, St Albans from the second year. And I think for us, Reigate is that perfect pub in the park town for us. It's not too big. You don't necessarily have lots and lots of huge events here.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
But actually what we want to do is kind of bring a bit of something special to the community, have great music acts. It is a stunning setting here. You know, you've got the beautiful hills in the distance. You've got great access as well. So the other thing that's challenged for quite a lot of locations is car parking. But here you've got great train access.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
You've got public transport, which means that people can come on foot and actually really enjoy themselves. Whereas some of the other locations we've gone in the past have been a challenge to get to. And I think, you know, here, I mean, you've kind of got a bit of everything. You've got a great high street. You've got this great park.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
You've got great surroundings and great villages and towns locally as well, which hopefully will all be coming to join us on the weekend.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if you look at the way that our sessions run across the weekend as well, so Friday, we're Friday evening only, so you've got people that will be arriving earlier, they'll want something to snack on, they'll want, as you say, maybe a nice drink in the sunshine beforehand.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
Saturday is interesting because it's split over two sessions, so four hours in the afternoon and four hours in the evening. So we close, you know, everybody leaves and vacates the session and then they'll go into the town, they'll enjoy some food. Some people may even be coming back for the evening session for Pub in the Park, which we definitely do see.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
But actually a lot of those people will be going out looking for some drinks to carry on the party, you know, looking for something really, you know, to have a substantial meal for. And again, likewise, people are then coming for the evening session. We'll be doing exactly the same, but the other way around. And then Sunday, we've got a really long session.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
So it's one till seven and people tend to sort of come in and out on a Sunday session is what we see anyway. So they'll come in maybe for a couple of hours, one till two. explore the food, look at some of the demonstrations. They'll nip back home, you know, change of clothes and come back for the party later.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
So, yeah, you will see a lot of people sort of coming and going, to your point, from the station.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
We've had lots and lots of great support. I met with Helen from Reigate and Banster Council earlier today. She's really excited about the event. We've loved working with her and the team. Everyone's been super supportive. We've also worked with a load of local organisations this year. Your marketing team have been helping us outreach into the community.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
You might see that we've got flies in a number of shops that want to support us. And again, we've got a lot of returning visitors year on year. so obviously this is only the second year of this show, so to have so much of that support coming back means we did something OK last year, and hopefully we can prove that we can do even better this year with an even better line-up.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
Some names I haven't mentioned, actually, so we've got Gabrielle coming on the Sunday, we've got the Hoosiers, we've got Jay Rayner, who is, whilst a very well-known food critic, also has his own... He's got his own band, isn't he? Yeah, it is Jay Rayner, Sextet, Skating for Girls, McFly, MLC. The Blue Tones have just been announced as well, actually, so they're coming on the Friday evening.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
so yeah it's very exciting i mean the chef demonstrations i think as well are really not to be missed i think sometimes at our shows because it can be quite a lot to take in when you sort of walk through those gates and you know there's going to be food and you know there's going to be music and i think what's often missed is all of those extra sort of additional demonstrations learning to cook with the pros you know tom carriage will be demonstrating just all of these incredible people that will just be showing their expertise and um
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
And again, the fire pit, I think it's one not to be missed because I think it's so visual to see those flames and that great food and the smells, just incredible.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
Yeah, so tickets are available, pubintheparkuk.com. You can also check out the full line up there. You can see the chefs. We haven't got the day splits yet for which chefs are coming on which day, but that will be announced very soon. Everything's on the website and hopefully we'll see you there.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
The main thing they need to do is, one, be courteous. So, you know, if you are arriving, if you are leaving, respect the area that we're in. It is incredible here. You know, look after your rubbish. Take that home, definitely. If our visitors are kind to the town, then hopefully the town will be kind to us.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
But ultimately, in order for us to come back, we just need you to come and experience it and hopefully come back next year.
The Ramsey Show
Don't Chase Money, Chase Freedom
Well, it was my mortgage, and so I used my side job, which is real estate, to pay that off. You paid off your house? Yes. In California?
The Ramsey Show
Don't Chase Money, Chase Freedom
how's that feel it feels great it feels great it's actually uh since i paid it off in december not to have a mortgage since january is just it's awesome it's just like you feel like no weight on your shoulder that's right nothing's being taken out yeah i love it very good
The Ramsey Show
Don't Chase Money, Chase Freedom
Well, what I did was I had like a PMI on my original mortgage, and so they wouldn't take it off. So I had to find another mortgage company to take the PMI off. And it was actually owed 270. So what I did was I had some money saved up from real estate. And when I refinanced, I actually wired the money to the new lender. So that dropped it from 270 to 230.
The Ramsey Show
Don't Chase Money, Chase Freedom
And they were going, well, why don't you just take money out? So that was my situation. Okay. How'd you run into all this Ramsey stuff? Years ago in church. Okay. A program. Okay. And so the snowball has always been in my mind.
The Ramsey Show
Don't Chase Money, Chase Freedom
Well, I do a couple deals a year specializing in probate, and I just really liked it. It was like a hobby, and that's really what helped me with the big chunks of change to pay it off.
The Ramsey Show
Don't Chase Money, Chase Freedom
oh okay you're selling them helping the people solve the problem yeah calling the calling family and and sharing you know what my what i can do for them and and uh that's how i did it good for you wow that's neat so good having good commissions then yeah good commissions to be able to do that and and so that's that helped me a lot plus a great income absolutely very very cool so who was your biggest cheerleader while you're doing all this
The Ramsey Show
Don't Chase Money, Chase Freedom
uh pretty much just uh it was me i'm my own well one of the reasons i'm here is i'm doing this for my kids so i can be an example oh okay very cool how old are your kiddos uh let's see uh uh 35 33 uh i got one in the navy he's 26 and then my youngest is uh 21 all right very good very good cool
The Ramsey Show
Don't Chase Money, Chase Freedom
Well, you know, the last six years, I knew that this is what I can do. I wanted to come here. I do it for my kids, but also, you know, the goal of being debt-free, and there's no other place to come except here.
The Ramsey Show
Don't Chase Money, Chase Freedom
uh you know what i'm gonna actually fix my house i i didn't do anything to it it needs flooring it needs a bunch of stuff so i sacrificed that for for getting this thing you put off the remodel that's right yeah okay okay cash flow pretty easily now yes absolutely so when someone's listening and they're in their 50s and they say i've still got a quarter million dollars owed on a house what do you tell them the secret to getting out of debt is
The Ramsey Show
Don't Chase Money, Chase Freedom
Well, I really think that if you can get a job, a side job that can really help you out and help you make those snowball payments, slowly but surely it works. The whole thing reminds me of that book, Where the Red Fern Grows, and that young man, it took him two years to save $40, and he bought two hounds. And that's how, you know, it goes quick, but It's just little steps.
The Ramsey Show
Don't Chase Money, Chase Freedom
And I would say the side job is what really saved me.
The Ramsey Show
Discipline Is the Key to Building Wealth
Thank you. I'm in $80,000 of debt after I graduate, and I heard you're the guy to get me with a game plan to get me out of debt.
The Ramsey Show
Discipline Is the Key to Building Wealth
I have. Very anxious about it. What are you going to make? $120,000 with a $10,000 signing bonus.
The Ramsey Show
Discipline Is the Key to Building Wealth
I drive an old Honda, but I already have it paid off. How old? 15. It's only like 2015, so it's not... Oh, dude.
The Ramsey Show
Discipline Is the Key to Building Wealth
Fair enough. Take the 10 and then pay off. Throw it at it.
The Ramsey Show
Discipline Is the Key to Building Wealth
exactly so that makes sense i could probably pay off all my debts in like a couple years three at most then honey you weren't listening i thought you said you had eighty thousand dollars in student loan debt yeah you got other debt what no no other debt okay you're making 120 yes let's do some fourth grade math
The Ramsey Show
Discipline Is the Key to Building Wealth
Okay, now I get what you're saying. Yeah, like super fast. How much? Because it'll be $120 or $130 pre-tax. I know, I know.
The Ramsey Show
Attack Your Debt Instead of Letting It Attack You
Well, I just, uh, lost my job. And I feel like I pay way too much in rent. I don't know really what to do.
The Ramsey Show
Attack Your Debt Instead of Letting It Attack You
Yeah, and I worked five feet away from where I slept.
The Ramsey Show
Attack Your Debt Instead of Letting It Attack You
I worked in an automotive BDC call center.
The Ramsey Show
Attack Your Debt Instead of Letting It Attack You
Just applying around. Got found on LinkedIn. They messaged me. I was applying to everything, and I found a job that was a mile up the road from my house. So the office is here. But I didn't have a car for the longest time, so they let me work from home.
The Ramsey Show
Attack Your Debt Instead of Letting It Attack You
$12,000 an hour, so about $24,000 a year.
The Ramsey Show
Attack Your Debt Instead of Letting It Attack You
Oh, yeah. I was being berated for $24,000 a year. Yeah, I mean, you can make $20 an hour at Target.
The Ramsey Show
Attack Your Debt Instead of Letting It Attack You
Yes. It's kind of a junker, but it can get me from A to B. Get you from A to Target.
The Ramsey Show
Attack Your Debt Instead of Letting It Attack You
What's your rent? $8.95 a month. Okay. You live in a low? Utilities and everything included.
The Ramsey Show
Attack Your Debt Instead of Letting It Attack You
No. Service scheduling. So whenever you needed an oil change or had a check engine light on, I was the person you talked to. So why were you getting berated? Oh, people, when it comes to their car, if it's not done now, it's a problem. Hmm.
The Ramsey Show
Attack Your Debt Instead of Letting It Attack You
I was definitely fired up when I worked. I was in a pretty nice job. I made just barely more than I made at the call center. But I was working for a giant manufacturing company. I don't know if you've heard of them, link belt grains. But what do you want to be doing, David?
The Ramsey Show
Attack Your Debt Instead of Letting It Attack You
I mean, I'd love automotive repair, but I don't know where to start. I can't save money to save my life. I'm down to basically zero dollars.
The Ramsey Show
Attack Your Debt Instead of Letting It Attack You
Another issue is I've been applying for, I mean, I knew it was a terrible job. I've been applying for about six months and Nobody seems to want to take me.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
Sorry for my English and thank you for having me.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
Yeah, at first I want to tell you a bit about my situation. I'm at baby step three and starting for the fourth one. And I'm asking for advice living with my mom at 30 years old in one house. I have asked to pay off the mortgage. It's about $70,000. And yeah, should I put my energy in our relationship and the house? Or should I live on my own and create my own lifestyle?
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
No, no. She is helping me because the cost of living outside is more than I pay at home. Okay. Gotcha. So we are helping each other. So I wanted to force her to put more money uh, payments and into mortgage. And, uh, that's, that's my goal, but I don't think it's, it's working out. And so I want to ask for advice. Uh, what should I do?
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
Should I stay at home and, uh, build my wealth or should I, uh, it's only her name on the deed, right.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
Uh, yeah, but, uh, um the lifestyle i would say i would say so she's single and uh i want to yeah i'm paying uh a lot of the bills okay so she's dependent upon your income to a degree yeah okay
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
Yeah, I wanted to save money. Yeah, absolutely. I want to be because at the dead end. When anything is happening, the mortgage will be the same when I'm alone. So I have one sister, but there's some time to get together and make the house debt-free.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
Yeah, for sure. She is retiring and she has her own business with some beauty and so on.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
Yeah, around $6. With 62K in dollar, I have to write it down from euro to dollar.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
Yeah, it's a little bit other situation because the health care is about health care and the taxes are in that 62K. So I get home 30, 39 or 40. The taxes here are a little bit higher. So, yeah, for sure.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
Yes, but on the debt end, I don't have really margins to put in my sales and my retirement plans at the end. Okay.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
I'm listening to the show. I'm staying out of debt, and I thought about a car, but... As long as I was thinking about it in my mind, no.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
So I recreated my career in sales. So I went to, I was looking for a hotel degree. I get it. And then Corona hits and I started a sales career. So I'm improving on that. I want to go further. I'm a sales manager for energy resources for healthcare and hospitals. So yeah, I will make more money. Listen, that's always an option. I think the main thing to take away is I would not
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
Go ahead. I will be clear at that point. So don't worry about that.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Depends on What You Do Today
He's going to lay it down. I'm very open minded, but thank you.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
Ken, Jade, you guys are awesome.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
I'm excited and I'm nervous. Oh, well, you're going to do great.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
Thanks. My question is, I was wondering if I should save up money or go back into investing. The reason is I was feeling fatigued. I went to the doctor. They gave me an EKG, and I left the doctor with a stage four cancer diagnosis. Oh, David. So I'm on chemotherapy right now, yeah. But the Lord's going to help me through this. We're going to make it.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
It was in December, and I've been doing chemotherapy for about a month.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
How are you feeling? Well, you know, the first round I had some side effects. The second round was a little bit better. The third round starts this Wednesday, so just dealing with it and, you know, getting some side effects and stuff like that. But I got a good job, good insurance and stuff like that.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
My daughter lives here and I do have family and I've got friends and got lots of support from the church and just everybody around me. I'm really blessed.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
Well, I quit investing because I was paying things off. I believe I'm in stage four now. I only have my mortgage and my HELOC.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
Right now I'm making $80,000, but I'm burning up sick leave right now. I'm on FMLA.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
With the intent of probably going into disability retirement, federal retirement, which would start out at 60% of what I was making and then 40% of what I was making until I turned 62. What do you have in your emergency fund? SSDI. I've got $6,000 in my emergency fund, which is about three months. Okay. I did have eight in there, but I had a water heater go out.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
It didn't freak me out. I just said, yeah, go ahead. That's what it's for. Let's do it. Nice.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
Just pay stuff off, yeah. I've already maxed out my out-of-pocket for this year on the insurance. Good. So everything should be covered.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
I do have a Roth IRA at work.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
I was investing and then I paused it because, you know, I listen to you guys a lot and I was like, you know, I could be putting that extra $800 a month towards these bills and I'm paying stuff off. And I was at the point where I was ready to start reinvesting. And then, of course, I went to the doctor and they said, guess what?
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
That's true. I was thinking that, but I wanted to confirm it. No, thank you for calling.
The Ramsey Show
You Need To “Happen” to Your Life Instead if It Happening to You
She's keeping an eye on me and stuff, too.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Self Deserves Better Choices Today
Okay. Well, I got onto the debt-free train a bit further down the track than most people. We are currently debt-free except our mortgage. Awesome. I'm hoping to retire in about six years. And my question is, I am currently investing 15% of my income into the 401k at work, and Sometimes during the year we'll have an extra $500, excuse me, an extra $1,000 that we can put towards something.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Self Deserves Better Choices Today
And I was wondering, given that I'm in my 60s and I don't have the 20, 30 years or compound interest to work its full magic, should I be putting extra money towards our mortgage or should I be putting a little extra into my IRA to try to give that a little bit of a boost?
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Self Deserves Better Choices Today
I'm trying to remember. We just moved. We just downsized. I think it's about $1,100 a month. I'm paying like $2,000 a month on it.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Self Deserves Better Choices Today
Okay, yeah, that does make sense. Yeah.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Self Deserves Better Choices Today
Well, I'm already doing that, but yeah.
The Ramsey Show
Your Future Self Deserves Better Choices Today
Yeah, I hadn't really thought of that angle, and that actually makes a whole lot of sense. I mean, technically, I could pull money out of my 401k and pay off the house now.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Love on the Spectrum: Why Abbey Romeo wants to get married
They're like their little pets. That was true. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Love on the Spectrum: Why Abbey Romeo wants to get married
Oh my gosh.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Love on the Spectrum: Why Abbey Romeo wants to get married
You're saying this. The way, oh my gosh. The way you have mothered Abby so selflessly, it makes my heart feel some type of way I don't really have words for.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Love on the Spectrum: Why Abbey Romeo wants to get married
It just really affects me. It's really, really... I'm crying because I'm happy. It's weird.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
That poor man. I have that she's accused of several felonies, which include fraudulent schemes and artifices, forgery, perjury, and tampering with physical evidence.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
One count of fraudulent schemes.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
She hasn't posted on TikTok since April 29th. April 29th was like a week ago.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yeah, those underwear.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Oh, my God, though. But when he came out shirtless for the car, like the car toy racing, it was just like, come on, man. But that's what I'm saying.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Can I tell you that Connor and I literally were pausing the screen going frame by frame trying to read her phone? Oh, same.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yes. See, mine, I can hit back and it clears the whole display. So I was reading the entire thing.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
But he's, like, not upset because of his choices. He's upset because he's forced to have to go through this program. And so he's blaming everybody else. During that video, he kept throwing digs at Brittany. And it's just like, you're not doing the work. You're just upset that you have to be here.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I don't know. I'm not going to lie. Janet made me laugh multiple times during this episode. I was like, don't make me like Janet. Yeah, I'm married to you. I would have cheated on you, too. If I was married to you, I'd cheat on you, too.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Getting in her face. Oh, my God.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
But it was it was like airing out like something that you had with another person and then like a moment that you're grateful for with, I believe. Because Brittany was like, I'm grateful for my son. And I think the rules in the beginning was like, you weren't supposed to pass it to your spouse or to like, like somebody that you're in a relationship with.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Well, I mean, they're technically not together.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yeah. But it's like. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I mean, it was kind of funny, though, how Jesse was just like, if you're that happy, you don't have to keep saying how happy you are. And they cut to her in the car being like, I'm so happy.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Then Michelle went on Watch What Happens Live, though. I don't know if you saw. Then she gave Andy a bottle of Aaron's honey and called Jussie crazy for his theories of, well, she went to Runyon and then he lives by Runyon and the honey company. And I was like, girl, that...
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
That one's a little... That was crazy. Yeah, her boyfriend owns the Honey Company. And remember last episode, Jessie was like, the honey was in our cabinet. And then she would put makeup on to go to Runyon. And guess where this guy... I went on his Instagram and guess where this guy lives? By Runyon.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I went to a screening of the documentary from the first trial and then yesterday I kept kind of like trying to like tap it and be like, fuck, gotta work. But like, it's intriguing. What do you think? Do you think she's innocent or guilty? I don't know. I genuinely do think that she's innocent and I think that she's being framed. But I'm like, I haven't paid attention enough to this trial go-round.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
David, what's your favorite thing about Abby?
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I'm a big Disney fan.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Doop!
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I believe it was a mistrial. But wait, did you see the police officers the night of the incident that they were collecting evidence in red Solo cups? And then putting it in a grocery bag?
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
What about the video where they're in the auto shop and they flipped the perspective of the videos?
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Nicola Peltz is allegedly fed up with how narcissistic Victoria and David Beckham are, and they verbally berate Brooklyn. The actress alleges that she doesn't like the way her husband's narcissistic parents treat him.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
They've reportedly made themselves available for months and months to discuss the ongoing drama, but are devastated that David and Victoria don't want their daughter in law around for the conversation.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
It kind of felt like they would post things, though, intentionally to kind of be like, oh, here's the headline that's coming through. And then they're like, no, we're together on a yacht. Like, no, we're together celebrating my birthday. We're best friends.
The Viall Files
E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
They've been married for three years. For three years? For three years, and he's 26 now, so he got married at 23.
This American Life
860: Suddenly: A Mirror!
Oh, I'm glad she's safe, obviously, but I didn't have anything to do with that.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
I was eight years old, and I knew just what he was talking about. He was just saying the same thing I had read in my Bible dozens of times. As an evangelical Christian, I wanted desperately to please God, so for my entire adolescence and up into my twenties, I literally tried to avoid having lustful thoughts. I was taught this was possible.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
Paul says in 2 Corinthians that we take every thought captive in the name of Jesus, which means that any spiritually healthy person ought to be able to control every thought in his head. Of course, in practice, this is even harder than it sounds.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
So for young evangelicals like me, there's a whole sub-industry of sex advice columns and books with titles like Every Man's Struggle or Taking Thoughts Captive. You can find them in the For Men section of any Christian bookstore. The first thing they always tell you is that sex is a beautiful gift from God.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
Even though it's a gift, they don't want you to touch or even think about it because you're just going to ruin it with your filthy paws. Any physical pleasure, even pleasure you'd give yourself while alone, is completely forbidden. Then they tell you how to survive until marriage. They all run some variation on, you can't help the first glance, but you can prevent the second.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
This is Josh Harris in the audio version of his book, Not Even a Hint, Guarding Your Heart Against Lust. It's full of practical tips.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
Other tips. These books tell you to watch TV with a remote in your hand, so if a sexy beer commercial comes on, or when the sports camera cuts to the cheerleaders, you can immediately jump to another channel. And be honest with yourself. When you watch ESPN2, aren't you hoping to see gymnastics? And guys need daily quiet time to read the Bible and pray for strength in the fight against temptation.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
I don't know why, but in my case, none of this ever worked. I wanted it to work, longed for it desperately. But every week or so, late at night, I'd give in. M happened again, I would write in my journal, as if it weren't an action, but an event. Something that could just engulf you like a flash flood or a car accident. Something so terrible it could only be referred to in code.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
I was an adulterer. That's what the Bible told me. And I struggled with the guilt of that every day. After high school, I went to a huge state college in Tucson. And on warm days, I would walk across campus feeling like a monster. Because I believed that noticing a girl's body was the spiritual equivalent of something like sexual assault.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
I assumed all this was the same for all of us fundamentalist kids. At every All Guys Prayer meeting I ever went to, someone was always asking for help with their thought life. But I'd never actually asked if anyone had quite the same problems I did. So I called my friend Derek, a missionaries kid who was my best friend from church back then.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
Oh, yeah, that's the other thing. I mean, it seems so trivial and silly, and yet it caused actual agony. Yeah. You know, we felt depraved.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
Do you ever, you know, wish you could go back? Yes. Okay.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
He's right. They do crack. And for me, they cracked worse than for Derek. I couldn't buy porn. That was obviously forbidden. I didn't have a girlfriend. I couldn't even watch MTV. So the only sexual experiences I'd had were the ones that happened by accident. A woman bending over in a low-cut shirt, for instance.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
And then at 22, I started finding myself walking slowly along campus or in supermarkets at a library, hoping to see another accidental glimpse of something. It took more and more of my time. My grades started to suffer. I was like a stalker, but a shy one with incredibly low standards. Then after a couple unbearable months of this, I begged my pastor for help. He suggested Sex Addicts Anonymous.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
At my first meeting, we all told our stories. There was a guy who'd spent thousands of dollars on prostitutes in a single long weekend. There was a woman who'd slept with a different guy almost every night for years. There was a huge tattooed biker who was so ashamed to be there that a friend let him in blindfolded. And then there was me, a 22-year-old virgin.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
When I told my story, there was an awkward silence. Even here, nobody understood my problems. A few days later, I went to a Christian counselor, expecting he'd just tell me to pray harder, look for answers in the scripture. I explained my problem, and he looked at me and frowned, and he asked if I ever did the act, the one that I found so horrible I only referred to it in code.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
Trust me, he said, let yourself do it. Give yourself permission and see what happens. This was shocking, that a Christian would give me this kind of advice. that it's possible to obey too much, that you could lead yourself astray by following the Bible's rules. That very day, I took home my first Playboy magazine, and that was that.
This American Life
332: The Ten Commandments
After five minutes, I was no longer desperate to glimpse random women bending over the freezer cases at the grocery store. It felt like a miracle. It was so fast, so life-changing, that it was like converting all over again.
This American Life
856: You’ve Come to the Right Person
I don't know if you've ever went through this yourself, where you just have this slight, a niggle, you know? And you go, I don't know what the niggle is because everything's perfect.
This American Life
856: You’ve Come to the Right Person
Yeah, a slight doubt, slight confusion. It just didn't have that oomph. I'd say we were vanilla beige, but lovely.
This American Life
856: You’ve Come to the Right Person
So, I mean, you wouldn't be thinking that we were maybe flying off to France and having a romantic getaway together. There was nothing wrong, but no... Passion. Yeah, there was zero French in any of the relationship. It was a very British relationship.
This American Life
856: You’ve Come to the Right Person
I just had that holy shit moment of, this is my life you're describing right now, and I didn't realize it.
This American Life
856: You’ve Come to the Right Person
And then I had this moment where I was like, what do I do? Like, what do I do now with this information? And he's like, well, I think you know what you need to do in this situation.
This American Life
856: You’ve Come to the Right Person
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was really taken back.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
Mike Friedman. Ian knew who the favorites at this race were, and this Mike Friedman wasn't one of them.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
Ian was worried now. If he kept the lead, blocking all the wind for Mike, he was going to get tired. Mike might burst ahead. So Ian was like, let him get in front for a bit.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
Now, in cycling, this type of gentleman's agreement happens all the time. Competitors will temporarily agree to a truce so they can conserve energy and stay ahead of the pack. It's a strategy. Sometimes this happens at the end, which could end up deciding who wins. Like, hey, there's two of us here at the top. I won't sprint on you if you take on the win resistance for me.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
First Place takes home a jersey with stars and stripes, like Captain America.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
Ian was not having it. He immediately told the reporter what happened. He was like, Mike cheated. He cheated.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
As if to say, hey man, you're doing well. If you keep it up, you might even win this thing. I said you could win, not that I'd let you win. And so, life goes on. Ian races professionally for a bit, but gets injured and becomes a journalist. Of course, he covers cycling. Mike becomes an Olympian. The whole time, they're sort of circling each other's orbits, but avoiding crossing paths.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
And annoyingly, everyone in the racing world really likes Mike.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
It's like saying you hate Mr. Rogers, right? Yeah, yeah. So as time passes, this race stays. like a thorn in Ian's side.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
Then one day, about 15 years later, Ian's covering a race in Colorado, near where Mike lived, He's on the tour bus hanging out.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
And that is Mike Friedman. That day on the bus, Mike didn't fully fess up and apologize. For Mike, it's complicated. Here's how he remembers those final moments of the race.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
It ate at him. He didn't race for two years. Mike didn't even tell anyone for a really long time. Fessing up that he cheated would mean that he was just that, a cheater. Not a kid who lost himself for a minute in a race.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
It never meant as much to anyone else as it did to him, but he couldn't let it go. He thought about it for years. After a cycling career was done, his life sort of tanked. His marriage ended, hit bottom. He was living in a camper in his friend's land when he realized he wanted to reach out to Ian, that he missed his opportunity on the bus a year back.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
Mike also wanted to give Ian the jersey, the Captain America one. He'd stuffed it deep in a drawer all these years. So they agreed to meet up.
This American Life
668: The Long Fuse
This event set off by a few words had just ballooned and ballooned in their heads for about 15 years. Even though in the grand scheme of things, this race didn't matter. It's not like it was the reason Mike made it or the thing that ended Ian's career. And fixing it took something that's so simple. Three words. You were right.
This American Life
198: How to Win Friends and Influence People
I thought that seeing him without his group might be unsettling, like finding a single arm on the sidewalk. But Thad was fully capable of operating independently. Watching him in action, I understood that his popularity was not an accident. Unlike a normal human, he possessed an uncanny and wholly natural ability to please people.
This American Life
198: How to Win Friends and Influence People
Much like a Whitman sampler, he seemed to offer a little bit of everything. Pass on his athletic ability and you might partake of his excellent manners, his confidence, his cultish enthusiasm. Even his parents seemed invigorated by his presence. All right then, Mr. Pope said. Now that everyone's accounted for, I'm hoping we can clear this up.
This American Life
198: How to Win Friends and Influence People
Sticks and stones aside, I suspect this all comes down to a little misunderstanding between friends. I lowered my eyes, waiting for Thad to set his father straight. Friends? With him? I expected laughter or the famous Thad snort, but instead he said nothing. And with his silence, he won me completely. A little misunderstanding, that's exactly what it was.
This American Life
198: How to Win Friends and Influence People
The immediate goal was to save my friend, and so I claimed to have essentially thrown myself in the path of Thad's fast-moving rock. What the hell was he throwing rocks for, my father asked. What the hell was he throwing them at? Mrs. Pope frowned, implying that such language was not welcome in the rumpus room. I mean, Jesus Christ, the guy's got to be a complete idiot.
This American Life
198: How to Win Friends and Influence People
Thad swore he hadn't been aiming at anything, and I backed him up, saying it was just one of those things we all did, like in Vietnam or whatever. It was just friendly fire. My father asked what the hell I knew about Vietnam. And again, Thad's mother winced, saying that boys picked up a lot of this talk by watching the news. Oh, you don't know what you're talking about, my father said.
This American Life
198: How to Win Friends and Influence People
What my wife meant, Mr. Pope said. Oh, baloney. I looked at my father then, a man in dirty shorts who drank his beer from the can rather than pouring it into his tumbler, and I thought, you don't belong here. More precisely, I decided that he was the reason I didn't belong. How was a person expected to fit in when he'd been steadily poisoned by his parents?
This American Life
198: How to Win Friends and Influence People
Bad little doses until he was ultimately so contaminated that no one would have anything to do with him. The hokey Greek phrases, the how-to lectures on mixing your own concrete, the squabble over who would pay the stupid dentist bill. Little by little, it had all seeped into my bloodstream, robbing me of my natural ability to please others.
This American Life
198: How to Win Friends and Influence People
Well, Mr. Pope said, I can see that this is going nowhere. My father laughed, saying, yeah, you got that right. It sounded like a parting sentence, but rather than standing to leave, he leaned back on the sofa and rested his beer can upon his stomach. We're all going nowhere. At this point, I was pretty sure that Thad and I were envisioning the same grim scenario.
This American Life
198: How to Win Friends and Influence People
While the rest of the world would move on, in a year's time, my filthy, bearded father would still be occupying the rumpus room sofa. Christmas would come, friends would visit, and the popes would bitterly direct them towards one of the easy chairs. Just ignore him, they'd say. He'll go home sooner or later.
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198: How to Win Friends and Influence People
In the end, they agreed to pay for half the root canal, not because they thought it was fair, but because they wanted us out of their house. Some friendships are formed by a commonality of interests and ideas. You both love judo or camping or making your own sausage. Other friendships are forged by a mutual hatred of a common enemy.
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On leaving Thad's house, I decided that ours would probably be the latter. We'd start off grousing about my father, maybe going so far as to scratch up his car, and then, little by little, we'd move on to the hundreds of other things and people that got on our nerves. You hate olives? I imagined him saying. I hate them too. As it turned out, the one thing we both hated was me. Rather, I hated me.
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Thad couldn't even work up the enthusiasm. The day after the meeting, I approached him in the lunchroom where he sat at his regular table, surrounded by his regular friends. Listen, I said, I am really sorry about that stuff with my dad. I'd worked up a whole long speech, complete with imitations, but by the time I hit my second sentence, he'd turned to resume his conversation with Doug Middleton.
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Our perjured testimony, my father's behavior, even the rock throwing. I was so far beneath him that it hadn't even registered. Poof. The socialites of E.C. Brooks shone even brighter in junior high, but come 10th grade, things began to change.
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Desegregation drove a lot of the popular people into private schools, and those who remained seemed silly and archaic, deposed royalty from a country the average citizen had ceased to care about. Early in our junior year, Thad was jumped by a group of the new black kids who yanked off his shoes and threw them in the toilet.
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I knew I was supposed to be happy, but part of me felt personally assaulted. Yes, he'd been a negligent prince, yet I still believed in the monarchy. When his name was called at graduation, it was me who clapped the longest, outlasting even his parents, who politely stopped once he'd left the stage. I thought about that a lot over the coming years.
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He's the poet laureate of Lichtenstein, the surgeon who cures cancer with love, the ninth grade teacher who insists that the world is big enough for everyone. When moving to another city, I'm always hoping to find him living in the apartment next door, We'll meet in the hallway and he'll stick out his hand saying, excuse me, but don't I, shouldn't I know you?
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It doesn't have to happen today, but it does have to happen. I've kept a space waiting for him. And if he doesn't show up, I'll have to forgive my father.
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I was in the snack bar listening to a group of sixth graders who lived in another part of town and sat discussing significant changes in their upcoming school year. According to the girl named Janet, neither Pam Dobbins nor J.J.
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Jackson had been invited to the Fourth of July party hosted by the Pyle twins, who later told Kimberly Matthews that both Pam and Mike were out of the picture as far as the seventh grade was concerned. Totally, completely out, Janet said. Hoof. I didn't know any Pam Dobbins or JJ Jackson, but the reverential tone of Janet's voice sent me into a state of mild shock.
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Call me naive, but it had simply never occurred to me that other schools might have their own celebrity circles. At the age of 12, I thought the group at E.C. Brooks was, if not nationally known, then at least its own private phenomenon. Why else would our lives revolve around them? I myself was not a member of my school's popular crowd.
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but recall thinking that whoever they were, Janet's popular people couldn't begin to compete with ours. Then I worried that our popular crowd couldn't compare to those in Charlotte or Greensboro, not to mention the thousands of schools located in other states. What if I'd wasted my entire life comparing myself to people who didn't really matter?
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Try as I might, I still can't wrap my mind around it. They banded together in the third grade. Ann Carlsworth, Christy K. Moore, Deb Bevins, Mike Hollowell, Doug Middleton, Thad Pope. This was the core base of the popular crowd, and for the next six years, my classmates and I studied their lives the way we were supposed to study math and English.
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So complete was their power that I actually felt honored when one of them hit me in the mouth with a rock. He'd gotten me after school, and upon returning home, I ran into my sister's bedroom with hugging my bloody Kleenex and crying, it was sad. Lisa was a year older, but still she understood the significance. Did he say anything, she asked. Did you save the rock?
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My father demanded that I retaliate, saying I ought to knock the guy on his ass. Oh, dad. Oh, baloney. Clock him on the snot locker and he'll go down like a ton of bricks. He was mistaking Thad for a bully, which was a different crowd altogether. Besides, who did my father think I was?
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Boys who spent their weekends making banana nut muffins did not, as a rule, excel in the art of hand-to-hand combat. I mean, come on, Dad, Lisa said. Wake up. The following afternoon, I was taken to Dr. Pavlich for x-rays. The rock had damaged a tooth, and there was some question over who would pay for the subsequent root canal.
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I figured that since they'd conceived me, given birth, and raised me as a permanent guest in their home, my parents should foot the bill. But my father thought differently. He had decided the popes should pay, and I screamed as he picked up the phone book. But you can't just call Thad's house. Why the hell not, he said. Don't they have a telephone?
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Well, of course the Pope's had a telephone, probably three or four with a separate line for the children. I imagined Thad's as a state-of-the-art desk model with blinking red lights alerting him that Doug or Christy was waiting on line one. Equipment was not the issue. My father's voice simply did not belong on the Pope's telephone. It wouldn't fit with their things.
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A meeting was arranged for the following evening and before leaving the house I begged my father to change his clothes. He'd been building in addition to the carport and wore a pair of khaki shorts smeared with paint and spotted here and there with bits of dried concrete. Through a hole in his tattered t-shirt, without squinting, it was possible to see his nipple.
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What the hell is wrong with this, he asked. We're not staying for dinner, so what does it matter? I yelled for my mother, and in the end, he compromised by changing his shirt. From the outside, Thad's house didn't look much different than anyone else's, just a standard split level with what my father described as a totally inadequate carport.
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Mr. Pope answered the door in a pair of sherbet-colored golf pants and led us downstairs into what he called the rumpus room. Oh, I said, this is nice. The room was damp and windowless and lit with hanging Tiffany lampshades. The shards of colorful glass arranged to spell the words Bush and Budweiser.
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Walls were paneled and the furniture looked as though it had been hand-hewn by settlers who'd reconfigured parts of their beloved Conestoga wagon to fashion such things as easy chairs and coffee tables. He directed us towards a sofa and asked if we wanted anything to drink. Coke? A beer?
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I didn't want to deplete Thad's precious cola supply, but before I could refuse, my father said, sure, we'd have one of each.
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The orders were called up the stairway, and a few minutes later, Mrs. Pope entered the room, carrying cans and plastic tumblers, and as she set the drinks before us, I noticed that her son had inherited her blunt, slightly upturned nose, which looked good on him, but caused her to appear overly suspicious and judgmental. So, she said, I hear you've been to the dentist.
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She was just trying to make small talk, but due to her nose, it came off sounding like an insult, as if I just had a tooth filled and was now looking for someone to pay the bill. I'll say he's been to the dentist, my father said. Someone hits you in the mouth with a rock, and I'd say the dentist's office is pretty much the first place a reasonable person would go. Mr. Pope held up his hands.
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Whoa now, he said. Let's just calm things down a little. He yelled upstairs for his son, and when there was no answer, he picked up the phone, telling Thad to stop running his mouth and get his butt down to the rumpus room, ASAP. A rush of footsteps on the carpeted staircase, and then Thad sprinted in, all smiles and apologies. The minister had called. The game had been rescheduled.
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Hello, sir, and you are? He looked my father in the eye and firmly shook his hand, holding it in his own for just the right amount of time. With others our age, the gesture appeared forced and sloppy, but Thad seemed born to it. While most handshakes mumbled, his clearly spoke, saying both, we'll get through this, and I'm looking forward to your vote this coming November.
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Hey there, it's Ira here with a quick message. The other day, two colleagues and I went into the studio and we listened to the very first pilot episode from This American Life. This is a reel-to-reel tape.
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So we need the interviewee to just say some words about something while we set recording levels. And so we'll ask them some kind of, you know, neutral question to describe the route they took to work that morning or what they had for breakfast. This comes from radio producer Talia Ugisteres.
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Groundhog Day, of course, is the 1993 Bill Murray comedy about a self-centered weatherman who gets trapped in time, repeating the same day, again and again. A day where he covers a Groundhog Day ceremony on local TV.
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That story from Talia Ougastetis. She's the creator of the podcast Unreality. She first produced the story for Shortcuts, a Falling Tree production for BBC Radio 4. Act three, Raiders of the Lost Chard. Sometimes the repeating situation that you find yourself stuck in every day is something you do not like and you want it to end.
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I hadn't heard it actually since 1995. We had no idea what to expect. So let's just jump in. And it kind of blew our minds just how weird it was. There were found tapes.
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And I guess like Bill Murray, who is caught on repeat in that old movie, you have to strategize and figure out how to minimize the unpleasantness. David Kestenbaum has this story about that.
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Until, finally, at the end of the film, he unsticks himself in time and wakes up on the next day. Again, here's Parker.
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Barker says she's not a big birthday person, but this is a little thing she's done for herself to mark the day ever since she was 22. I first saw Groundhog Day in a film class.
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David Kestenbaum is our show's senior editor. Coming up, one man combats the chaos of the world on a narrow block in Brooklyn, week after week, every Tuesday and Thursday. That's in a minute. Chicago Public Radio, when our program continues. It's This American Life from Ira Glass. Today's program, Groundhog Day. Have you ever had a day that just seems to repeat again and again?
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It's This American Life from Ira Glass. Each week on our program, of course, we choose a theme, bring you different kinds of stories on that theme. It's This American Life from Ira Glass. Each week on our show, of course, we choose a theme, bring you different kinds of stories on that theme. It's This American Life from Ira Glass.
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Each week on our program, we choose a theme, bring you a variety of different kinds of stories on that theme. Today's show, Fiasco. Today on our program, 24 Hours at the Golden Apple. Today on our program, a story of race and politics in America, the story of Harold Washington.
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I'm Eric Glass. It's This American Life, the radio program that dares to ask the question,
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Today's program, The Long Fuse. I had forgotten about that one, The Long Fuse. Doing this theme this week, I have to admit, made me really think about what it feels like to do our program week after week, 853 times. This is our 853rd episode. And it does feel very different making the show for the 853rd time than it did at the very beginning. Definitely.
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There is a sameness to doing things again and again every week that is not entirely pleasant. But, of course, while the process of making a show is always the same, the content of the show changes so much. And there's just something about, I don't know how to put this, like creating the little dream that radio can be. I don't know, it just gets to me. When the music enters. Thank you for that.
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Everything you say just sounds smarter when you're saying it over music. And just making all the little parts of the show perfect, you know, or at least as obsessively perfect as you can make it. It's just so easy to get lost in that. Even on the 853rd time. Act 4, Heart of Parkness. People who own cars in certain cities really are just asking for pain.
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Certain cities are not set up for them and deliver regular, repeated punishment to car owners. Valerie Kipnis' hometown definitely does that on a schedule that's literally posted on signs.
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So she created this birthday movie night for herself to do alone. That she still does alone every year with the film Groundhog Day. That she's going to do this year for the 16th time. And maybe you think that means that she's really into the film Groundhog Day. Nope. I don't love the movie.
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Valerie Kipnis is the producer on our show. Act 5, it's been a hard year's night, and I've been working like a hog. So Punxsutawney Phil is not the only groundhog who gets drafted into annual Groundhog Day ceremonies around the country. There's actually a website, groundhogday.com, that lists over three dozen of these poor critters around the United States and Canada.
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There's French Creek Freddy in West Virginia, Woody the Woodchuck in Michigan. There's a groundhog in New York City at the Staten Island Zoo. In New York in the past, the city's mayor used to be part of the Groundhog Ceremony until 2015 after Bill de Blasio dropped a groundhog and died later that same week.
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Parker says there are lots of films she'd much rather be watching once a year, year after year. Like her favorite film, Point Break, the Keanu Reeves surfing film.
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The current mayor, Eric Adams, is a well-known rodent hater who launched a war on the city's rats, and he has never shown up in person at the ceremony. And as a man who runs the city, he could use his powers to try to shut down the Groundhog Day ceremony on Staten Island once and for all. And there's somebody out there who would like that very much. We are pleased to bring her to you now.
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This is a This American Life exclusive. She's a resident of New York, specifically Staten Island, more specifically the zoo.
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Susan Hogg Kaplowitz's letter to Mayor Adams was written and read by Bess Kalb. She writes books and other funny stuff. Her newsletter, which you can find on Substack, is The Grudge Report.
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Our program was produced today by Aviva de Kornfeld. The people who put together today's program include Bim Adewunmi, Jindaye Bonds, Dana Chivas, Michael Kamade, Angelo Gervasi, Khanna Jaffe-Walt, Tobin Lo, Miki Meek, Catherine Raimondo, Stone Nelson, Nadia Raymond, Ryan Rumery, Lily Sullivan, Frances Swanson, Christopher Svitala, Julie Whitaker, and Diane Wu.
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Our managing editor is Sara Abdurrahman. Our senior editor is David Kestenbaum. Our executive editor is Emmanuel Berry. Special thanks today to Carrie Rose Thiessen, Ethan Brooks, Eddie Wong, Lindy Wade Dlamini, Saudi Tukada, Avery Truffleman, and Ned Ryerson. This American Life is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the public radio exchange, to become a This American Life partner.
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I'm Ira Glass. Back next week, there's more stories of this American life.
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But the thing that makes it feel comforting is the repetition. And it's a movie about how awful repetition is.
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But today on our program for Groundhog Day, the power of repetition, how it can be utterly devastating to do something you love dozens of times or hundreds of times. You can rob it of all feeling. You can turn it into drudgery. But repetition can also do the opposite. The more you do something, the more you can find in it and live in it.
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I've said these next few words hundreds of times, and I said them today, excited for what is to come this hour. From WBEZ Chicago, this is American Life. I'm Ira Glass. Stay with us. This is American Life, Act One. Will you still slug me tomorrow? Sometimes, choosing to repeat the same moment over and over again is an act of love. Aviva de Kornfeld has his true life example.
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I was really surprised what this pilot was like. Very avant-garde. Okay, well, let's find out what's going to happen. And I mention all this because if you sign up as a life partner, you can hear this bonus episode and many, many more that we've made. Plus you get our show without any ads. You get hundreds of favorite episodes that show up right in your podcast feed.
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And most of all, you help us keep our show going. If you've been thinking about joining, try it out. Go to thisamericanlife.org slash lifepartners. That link is also in the show notes. All right. Thanks. It's a little ritual that Parker invented for herself. And it's always the same, every year. Around this time of year. February 2nd, to be exact.
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Aviva de Kornfeld is a producer on our show. F2, I'll repeat the question. So our show today is about Groundhog Day and what repeating the same thing over and over can accomplish or reveal. And I don't want to say much about this next item before it starts, except to say that it is a common thing when radio reporters sit down to interview somebody, we have to set the record volume properly.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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I know, we've been working our asses off. You guys, get off your asses and back to work. Come on, man, we're taking a break.
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Ooh, that's a good comeback. Right away? Oh, so he forces him. That's how he gets him. Oh, wow.
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exactly and then they laugh of course yeah of course it's really fun yeah yeah these saltwater crocodiles in indonesia have apparently learned how to pretend to be drowning to lure humans in who they view as prey who they then obviously eat that's awesome right that's incredible yeah
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You guys, get off your asses and back to work.
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We're taking a break. Fuck your break. There's 15 cars here that need to be serviced. Now get back to it. Listen here, fucker. The only thing that needs servicing around here is our cocks.
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So get on your knees and beg like a bitch. What?
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Meow, meow, meow.
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What?