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How I Invest with David Weisburd

E142: How to Generate Alpha on $350 Billion w/CIO of CalSTRS Scott Chan

04 Mar 2025

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In this episode of How I Invest, I have a conversation with Scott Chan, Chief Investment Officer of CalSTRS, to explore how he oversees a staggering $350 billion in assets. Scott shares insights on CalSTRS’ collaborative investment model, their approach to private and public markets, and why they aim to be the "global partner of choice." We also discuss the importance of structural alpha, liquidity management, and identifying long-term supply-demand imbalances.

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0.609 - 11.393 David

You manage 350 billion or over a third of a trillion dollars, kind of a crazy number. In what way is your capital base an advantage? In what way is it a disadvantage?

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11.913 - 30.535 Scott Chan

That's a great question. It's two sides of the same coin here. One thing that we've talked about is we just have a very long-term horizon. You're labeling me as contrarian. I think thinking long-term gives you the capability to be contrarian. because most of what you're seeing in the short term is noise. So that's number one.

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30.555 - 52.215 Scott Chan

Number two, the way you make money with a high degree of probability is bottom up, transaction by transaction, deal by deal. And so our sites gives us the capability to build an expertise, expert team across markets, which is not typical for an organization of our size, is create a nimble and dynamic decision-making structure at the division level. That's something that's unique.

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52.896 - 67.092 Scott Chan

The second thing is scale economics. Some of the transactions we can negotiate from a collaborative model perspective is the scale. If we're going to be a significant size, it just aids us being able to negotiate better win-wins with our partners.

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69.156 - 72.12 David

Scott, I've been excited to chat. Welcome to the podcast.

72.241 - 79.751 Scott Chan

Thank you. No, thanks for having me. This is really exciting. And you've done a great job with your podcast. I'm so excited to be here, David.

80.032 - 83.537 David

Thank you, Scott. So how does one go about investing $350 billion?

85.379 - 107.168 Scott Chan

Let me just talk about the CalSTRS collaborative model, which is our primary way of how we implement our investment strategy. So if I were just to step back and define what is the collaborative model for your audience, for CalSTRS, that's an investment strategy to bring more of our assets in-house to lower costs, increase alpha, or control our risk better.

108.104 - 128.362 Scott Chan

or to leverage our partners in the private markets to achieve similar benefits. You think about public markets versus private markets here at CalSTRS. In the public markets, for example, in global equities and fixed income, we have roughly 80% to 85% of our assets managed by our own internal team from trading to portfolio management and anything in between.

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