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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
All right, are you ready for this? This deep dive request, it's, well, it's seriously intriguing.
Class with Mason
Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
It's like he's taking the gloom and doom we expect from Gothic stuff and turning it into like a commentary on the real world.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Exactly. Okay, so before we get too far into the weeds, I want to give our listener a taste of what we're dealing with here. I dove into some excerpts, and let me tell you, lines like, The sleep thorns mourn the departed roses gave me chills.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Right. And demons are but our souls apart. Pure gothic vibes.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
So we've got decaying nature, the presence of darkness, even demons, all those classic Gothic things.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Okay, but then, right alongside those lines, we get this. The knights, way slaves were burned alive. And this. Capital was valued better than a mere human life to give. Whoa, right?
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Suddenly, it's not just spooky images anymore. It feels like he's saying something more.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
That's what I call making a statement. And it makes me even more curious about this love, this loss that's woven through his palms, especially this Estrella who keeps popping up. Yeah, she seems important. But I think we're getting ahead of ourselves. We'll circle back to her.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
OK, so we're really stepping into Mason Carter's world now. Gothic imagery, social commentary. It's all swirling together. Where do we even start to unpack this?
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
So our listener, they want us to unpack the poetry of this guy, Mason Carter, specifically his collection, Gothic Poems to Love and Liberty, right? But here's the thing.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
He's definitely not following any rule book, that's for sure. Okay, give me an example.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Anathema. I'm going to be honest. I'd need a dictionary for that one.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
OK, but there's another layer here, right? Like, it's not just about this one person.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
And there's that image of his lover, right? Watching from a distance, wearing a mask. It's kind of heartbreaking, but there's something hopeful about it, too, you know?
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
OK, so we've got societal condemnation, the power of love. And I also pick up on some economic commentary in there.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Right. It's like they're trapped with no way out. And that feeling of being trapped. It's not just about economics, is it? There's something more going on with Carter himself.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
His real name, it's Mushahid Syed. Quite a shift, wouldn't you say?
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
It's like he's fighting his own demons at the same time as he's fighting these societal ones.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
So are you saying that we can't be truly free until we confront both the chains within ourselves and the chains of society?
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
You mean love. Because he does write a lot about love, which seems kind of counterintuitive given all the darkness we've been talking about.
Class with Mason
Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
And there are moments of real tenderness in his poems, even when he's knee-deep in Gothic imagery.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
But then the actual words, they have this surprising sweetness. It's unexpected.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
It's interesting, though, because even when he's writing about love, there's often this sense of loss, like he's longing for something he can't have. Like in those lines, a spellbound soul on the Plutonian shore, long since poison spirit liberates itself. It's like something out of a gothic fairy tale.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Heal us from the things that poison our souls. It's a powerful thought.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Okay, so we've got love, we've got loss, we've got a healthy dose of social commentary. Where does he go next with all of this?
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
You're right. There's a definite call to action in a lot of these poems. Like Take to the Masters, for example. He doesn't hold back.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Well, he talks about in darkened spirits from Hadean Imperium and warns, no hope thy life shall ever, ever be bailed. He's not just critiquing those in power. He's straight up calling them out.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
It really captures that feeling of being stuck in a system that seems rigged against you. But even with all the darkness, Carter offers these glimpses of hope, a different way of being.
Class with Mason
Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
So Mason Carter is like this whole other identity he's created.
Class with Mason
Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
And he doesn't stop there, does he? Some poems feel like a direct call to action, almost.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Yeah, I reread that one a couple of times. Not exactly what I'd call calming.
Class with Mason
Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Pretty bold. It makes you wonder who he's really trying to reach with these poems.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Maybe it's a bit of both, because that's the thing about art that aims for change, right? It's hard to say what kind of impact it will have. Some people might read his work and feel seen, understood, like their own anger is validated.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
And that's the power of engaging with art, isn't it? It forces us to think, to ask questions, and hopefully to work towards something better.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Makes you think about all the layers there might be in his poetry, right? Like he's crafted this whole persona to deliver these messages.
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
So to our listener, we hope this deep dive into the mind of Mason Carter, this gothic revolutionary poet, has given you a lot to think about.
Class with Mason
Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
And speaking of messages, we're dealing with a wild mix here. OK, so Carter, he was super into Edgar Allan Poe, obviously, but also get this libertarian socialists.
Class with Mason
Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Think Murray Bookchin, that kind of thinker. Talk about an unusual pairing.
Class with Mason
Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Well, we're talking Gothic poetry, but also social revolution. And, get this, a mysterious name change, all in one.
Class with Mason
Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
Right. It's like what happens when you mix those two things together?
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Discussion on Mason Carter's Poetry
You think he's using those elements to look at something else?
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I mean, you can. It doesn't stop you from doing that. After entertaining Jerry from the bar and stealing his jacket, I ripped a butt like that. What? I ripped a butt late that night. What does that mean?
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Anytime I misspeak from here on out, I can just hear the sound effect. Okay, let me just do this sentence again. After entertaining Jerry from the bar and stealing his jacket, I ripped a butt late that night and decided one of those girls was coming home and it was going to be me.
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I like the detail that, like, looking at the press conference photos and stuff, she noticed how much money they had by the jewelry they wore and, like, the earrings she had in pictures and stuff.
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Yeah, yeah. It's like, well, you know, if she's already willing to, like, sell herself for money, then, like, lying to a family is probably the better alternative, right?
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Uh, but I'll tell you, I would much rather wild take, but that's, uh, that was actually fine. Continue. Yeah.
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But, oh yeah, that's what I mean. That like she a hundred percent is like, this is going to be far easier. Yeah. Like I don't want to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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The Murrays still lived in the same house, an hour west of the small Michigan towns I'd been nesting in, which worked perfectly as I'd been toying with the idea of going back home to Chicago. It was a cheap way to justify the awful thing I was about to do, because in reality, there was no way I was actually going back home, even with Murray fortune in my pockets.
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It's frightening what we'll do to ensure we're the good guys in our story. So dished out a small chunk of my remaining cash to hop on a bus, I felt no hesitation or fear. Sure, it was risky, but I wasn't planning on being there for more than a night. I'd done enough research on Michaela to get in, find what I could take, and get out.
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I was going to beg the family to give me one day before alerting anyone that I'd returned, to let me rest in my own bed before being swarmed by whatever media Nowhere Indiana had to offer. After miles and miles of cornfields, I'd hoped to have plenty of time to escape that wave.
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When the bus arrived at the station, I couldn't help but notice how out of place it looked, like it had been copied and pasted from somewhere else, standing out among the rundown outlets, shops, and restaurants. I spotted a seedy-looking bar next to an even more questionable-looking mechanic and thought about making a detour. I needed a drink, but I couldn't.
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I had to make sure not to talk to anyone. couldn't risk being mistaken for the town's longest missing girl. Not here. Not now. So when an older man approached me outside the station as I smoked one last cigarette, I panicked. He asked if I could bum him one, said that he really needed it. So I did, just to make him go away.
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He started rambling on about his car having broken down and the shithole and how he was stuck here until they fixed it. He told me his name and then asked me mine. Told him it was Abby. It's not. He said I reminded him of his niece back in Iowa. Something I pretended was interesting. Maybe I can pretend to be her too, I thought.
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When I finished smoking, I wished him luck and set off for what I came here to do. I shoved the rest of my cigarettes and lighter deep into my backpack, along with my real identity. When I turned down Lincoln Avenue, I was no longer me or Abby. I was Michaela Murray.
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I kind of suspect that might be where the story's going. Um, I may be a fun hook. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of get the vibe. It's like, Oh, why? Cause the story's not just going to be, I stole stuff and I left, there's going to be something that happens. Uh, so that might be where it goes.
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She's desperate for money and she's willing to do whatever it takes.
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Yeah. She's a, she's a snake for sure. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, hold on. Let me piss really quick.
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I assume he's like ripped a butt out of the case, like pulled a cigarette. But but I don't think I've ever heard that phrase.
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I've heard ripping a cig. I've heard of people saying ripping a cigarette, but I don't. I just have not heard of ripping a butt. Yeah, I rip butt. Yeah, don't mind me. Just ribbing butt out here. I would think that would mean farting.
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The Murrays lived a pretty secluded life. Their home set alone in the middle of endless plains. Their neighbors barely dots in the distance. I'm starting to understand why Michaela might have run away. Although the house itself is beautiful, with many protruding sections and gables, a wraparound porch, and a large two-door garage.
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There is even an in-ground swimming pool out back, now covered and topped with autumn leaves, and a cute little gazebo further off in the field, draped in numerous flags and dream catchers, with flowerpots lining the railings. It certainly didn't look like the kind of place tragedy had struck.
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I stepped quietly up the stairs and was almost spooked by my own reflection in the glass of their front door. Nerves were definitely setting in now. I rang the bell and felt my stomach sink. What if my dirty blonde hair wasn't light enough, or if Michaela had had some obvious birthmark I'd overlooked? I was sweating underneath my coat, unable to recall the name of the man I'd taken it from.
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When the door opened, my heart stopped. Linda Murray was standing there in her casual weekend wear, pleasantly confused. Hello? She greeted me. Then her face went white in an instant, like her soul had left her body. She shrieked and clasped her hands to her mouth, bursting into tearful exclamations. Oh my god! She kept repeating.
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She suddenly lunged forward and squeezed me tighter than I would have liked, her arms attempting to wrap all the way around my backpack. I stood there awkwardly, bracing all of her weight onto mine, as she surely was about to collapse.
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The dog at her legs was barking madly, and as Linda's tears dropped onto my back, all I could think about was how pissed off I'd be had I gotten caught because the dog didn't recognize my scent. Okay, I will say... I guess I wasn't processing how evil this is. It's horrible. It's horrible. The mother cried and she's like, oh, this stupid dog. Like, it's like super villain levels of bad.
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Because in my head, I'm like, oh, she's going to steal money. Like, that's bad. But I guess. I wasn't thinking about the trauma.
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Yeah. She's like, she's like irredeemable. Yeah.
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What is it? Linda? Michaela's dad called from somewhere inside. He soon appeared in the doorway, his button up tucked into his jeans. And when he saw my cold pale face poking over Linda's shoulder, he stumbled back. What is this? He gasped. His eyes went wide and his bushy gray mustache twitched. The dog was still barking, reminding me that I was in fact a stranger in this house.
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I smiled and said, I'm home, daddy. Oh man, she's evil. She is awful. How gross. That accent you actually just did was a pretty good Sidney Sweeney, I think.
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Always cool to me whenever, um, actors like develop a, uh, kind of role of... What's the word I'm looking for? An investment, sort of, in the projects they're working on. Where she's like, this looks good. I'm going to go in as a producer and as an actress. And also, I believe Eric Roth is currently set to do the screenplay for it. And he did...
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Yeah, I think I hope that she keeps saying that. There you go. I was trying to make myself cry. And if Linda had squeezed me any harder, I just might have. She held onto my sleeve as we let go. So afraid her daughter would run off again. Paul Murray was still staring at me in disbelief when something shifted in his face and he stepped forward. Come here, baby girl.
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Linda passed me off like a toy she didn't want to share. Paul pulled me into his arms and held even tighter than she had. rocked back and forth for a moment. I can't believe it's you. Linda rushed for the door and yelled inside, calling for her son, James. Come inside, baby. Paul beamed as he released me, keeping a hand on my back and beckoning me inward.
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I moved into the foyer where Paul asked to take my coat, which I happily handed him. Now that I was inside, I could practically smell the bar on it. Your bag, sweetie.
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He made a face and I worried it was suspicious and then worried more that my worrying was the only thing suspicious. I had to settle down. I nearly jumped when Paul turned the locks and hit a button on the alarm system. Jesus. Chimed louder than I would have expected.
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No, it's not. No, no, no, it is. It's not because that's what the description said on the article we looked at at the beginning. It said she breaks into someone's house only to regret it. So we knew that. We knew that. Now, what is the ohm noise you're making? That's the bear getting hit. Is that the noise a bear makes when its leg gets snapped by a giant metal trap?
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Thank you, too. What kind of bears are there in Kansas City, Missouri? Black bears. Grizzly. Both of them.
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In downtown St. Louis. Exactly. Do bears have rites of passage? Is that a thing bears do? That's one of them. That's one of them. What's another one?
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All the other ones are where you got to get the straight, the, the, to be a bear, to like earn your bear rights, you have to eat fish, sleep, pass through the St. Louis arch. Yeah.
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So your bear trap isn't just a mental thing. Also, to be fair, we don't even know yet. We don't know yet if the bear trap actually hit. I think it's hit. Okay, first off, finish what you said.
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And you cut me off. And you cut me off. No, you cut me off. I didn't back out of it. You cut me off. So I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to fish what I'm saying. Pot of greed. So...
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shut up so i'm saying if i had a bear trap i would coincidentally in this occasion set mine where yours is like that was a good lay to get out of here as opposed to your 17 other bear traps that are off in the brush somewhere aren't even turned on aren't even activated they're just shut up and thrown into the weeds this was a good placement in this occasion
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dune i think he was a part of the writing team on dune unless i'm way off so the guy who wrote the dune movie no no the screenplay the screenplay the guy who wrote it is uh no no that's what i'm saying the dune movie i'm saying the guy who wrote the the dune movie the screenplay for the movie is doing the r slash no sleep horror film if that's true that's awesome make sure let me make sure hold on am i talking he did forrest gump
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Have you seen the clip where Jeremy, yeah. Jeremy sets up a claymores for alligators around their camp.
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Anyways, we read the story anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The story, the story. It chimed louder than I would have expected. I wondered if all this had always existed, or if it was a result of their daughter having slipped out one night, never to be seen again. One of her coats still hung on a hook by the door, untouched after all these years. Now mine hung next to it. Well, Danny's, or whatever.
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As we moved even further inside, I was blown away by how nice this place was. So much so that I'd slipped and let it show. Nothing in this house was supposed to be surprising to me.
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It was hard not to be impressed by the high ceilings and bookshelves, or the many sofas beside a grand marble fireplace, or the fact that it was just the room that branched off to all the other rooms, one they probably hardly ever used. As I continued to survey my surroundings, a figure high above caught my eye. It was James.
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looked down over the railing and looked more flabbergasted than anyone to have seen me. At 17, he was now the same age his sister was when she banished, only much taller, but with the same baby face.
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Now she wants to puke. All right, there we go. James didn't move right away. And when he did, it was the slow, cautious crawl. I figured surely of all people I'd have been safest room. James, after all, he'd hardly ever known his sister. Yet the baby blue eyes behind his jet black hair were piercing into mine, searching for the girl he so dearly missed. I couldn't think of what to say to him.
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I was distracted by the feel of the cigarettes in my bag. I needed one.
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Zolly mustered, stopping at the foot of the stairs. Hey, Goober. I had no idea if that was something Michaela ever called her. Yeah, she's just like dynamite. Just making up pet names on the fly. Okay, where's the food? Where's the dinner at?
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Hey, Goober. That's also really funny. That's funny to imagine that like your sister runs away for like, what's it been? Six years? Seven years? No, 12. 12 years. Like 12 years. Yeah.
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Hey, Goober. I had no idea if this was something McKayla ever called him, but neither had anyone else. James and I then did something resembling a hug and let go. Linda looked on, face red, still overcome with emotion. Paul was smiling at us. Let's go sit, yeah? You look exhausted. He wasn't wrong. I couldn't wait to sit down.
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There probably wasn't a piece of furniture in this place less comfortable than the mattress I'd been living on for the last decade. I held in my amazement as we marched from room to room, deeper and deeper into the house. Linda was still exhaling, this stuttered, painful sob kept reaching to touch me in any way. A hand on the back or a light brush at the hair.
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It was annoying, but then again, I never learned how to have a mother. When I shrugged Elena off, she looked heartbroken. Why would you shrug her off? It was at that moment that I finally began to feel like the asshole I knew I was. Okay, there you go. There it is. There's a little bit of like a human reaching out from deep down there.
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Apparently. Hold on. He did Dune. Wow. He did Dune and Forrest Gump.
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After passing through the kitchen and down another hall, we stopped in their second larger living room. It was very open, the ceiling reaching all the way up to the third story with photos lined as high as a ladder could reach. I followed Michaela's progression of school photos, remarking how eerily similar they were to mine, and how they were one photo short.
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There was an upper level behind us where a grand piano sat in one corner and a bar in the other, separated by yet another fireplace. I imagined how nice a Christmas tree must have looked in here, even during the day with the natural light coming in through the sliding glass doors to the back porch. Each Murray dropped onto a separate couch on the lower level. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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r slash classic i hope it's good i'll say this is pretty stacked so far yeah this is this is a fucking this is a killer this is a killer lineup uh i say we just fucking hop in also congratulations to uh joe coat for like writing the story on four years ago to get to this also according to what i've seen online uh he is a high school english teacher
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I was craving a cigarette more than ever, and that alone was almost enough to get me on that roof.
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So he's just like an English teacher who likes stories who wrote this and now it's got all this traction. So congratulations. Be sure to check him out on Reddit. I couldn't find any other definitive links to like his socials or stuff like that. But as this becomes more popular, like as the story gets made into a film, I'm sure it'll come out. But congrats, Joe. That is very cool.
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We can use the fields for cover, and then once we... There was a knock at the door. James? It was Paul. He tried turning the handle. Everything alright in there? Without hesitation, James ran for the window and opened it. I could hear the faint chime of the alarm from somewhere out in the hall. Paul's jiggling of the locked door grew more aggressive. Now what the hell's going on in there?
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Open the door! When he started pounding on it, I threw on my bag and joined James, who was already halfway out the window. Together, we scurried on the roof, hopped onto the back porch, and dropped down onto the rather large portico above the back door. I'd almost fallen down the side, but James held me up. A loud crash came booming from back up in his room. I looked up. Don't stop! James yelled.
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He jumped first onto the lawn, and I followed. Both of my feet and knees took the impact hard, the ground underneath the autumn foliage deceptively solid. James held me up, and we took off running. Against his advice, I looked back and saw Paul peeking out James' window. He shouted to us and then disappeared. James had already separated himself a good distance from me.
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I kept pushing my legs as he called back for me to do so, my backpack bouncing off my ass with each stride. There was a road in the distance, the same road I'd trudged along to get here. I could see where it met the orange and purple sky. It felt like it was never getting any closer.
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gunshot rang loud ripping across the plains paul was now standing by the back door aiming a rifle in our direction his crimes chasing us behind the gunpowder my word another bang and my legs buckled when i reached the gazebo i hid behind it to catch my breath there was a sharp debilitating pain in my side i held myself up one of those railings and thought i could feel my heartbeat vibrating against the wood i swore if i'd survive this i would quit smoking
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peaked around the corner and saw Paul hurry into the garage, James calling out for me by the road. But as I stood there, frozen against the gazebo, flags caressing my shoulder, I thought about the girl buried underneath. What if James was right? What if nobody ever found Michaela's remains? What if we didn't make it out of there and nobody ever knew?
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No, no, no. About, like, if we don't leave now, we're dead. What if James is right about no one knows about this?
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That's fair. That's fair. I guess she's saying, like, what if James is right that we're going to die and no one will ever know?
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No, he's right. He's right. You're going to die. No one's ever going to know.
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I thought for a while it would be like the whole liar revealed set up. But it's like, nope, nope, that's not what we're doing here.
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It's like, okay, well, here we are. What if we didn't make it out of there? Nobody ever knew. I thought of my own story, unheard and not believed. When I told my dad what my uncle had done all those years, he hit me. Couldn't let this story stay buried, too. Took out my lighter and lit a flag, and then another.
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It's like, it's no, it's, she's kind of got that. It's not Southern, but it's like Wyoming sort of. Like the mid, like a Northwest draw, you know? How does that go for you? What does that look like for you? I can't do impressions. I don't want to do that to myself right now. It's like, it's kind of Valley girl. I can't, you know what? Whatever your heart thinks is the right move. This one. Okay.
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The fire burned slowly, picking up quick as it caught onto more flags and dreamcatchers, then down to the plants below. I stumbled back and watched the flames spread and dance along the darkening sky. I hoped, at the very least, it would be a distraction, more so enough to attract law enforcement. I could hear Linda's shrill voice crying out at the sight of it.
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She rushed around the side of the house with groceries in her hands, calling out for her husband who had just sped off in his truck. He was coming. I made one last dash for James, who was impatiently waving me on. He took my arm and led me across the road his father would soon be turning onto. He slipped into the cornfield and kept going until we heard the roar of an engine pass by.
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It froze until there was nothing but the wind, the pain on my side still nagging me. As dark as the sky had rapidly grown, it was even darker in that field, the corn towering over us, clinging to life as much as we were. Paul's headlights were shining through from not much farther ahead. He waited in terror for a crunch or a shout or, ideally, for the truck to zoom off.
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Another gunshot rang high into the air. I gasped and had to cover my mouth to quiet my breathing. "'What are you doing with my son?' Paul called in a sing-songy fashion. We could hear him walking about over the sound of his engine purring. "'Where the fuck are you?'
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His footsteps wandered around, farther, closer than farther again, separated only by the sound of swishing corn as he searched randomly along the outer edge." There was a pause, followed by a door slamming shut, Paul's truck whirled and sped back down the road. I exhaled as James tugged on my arm and instructed to keep going.
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Pushed through more corn and followed along the road as best as we could. I never would have imagined being in this situation when I walked down it earlier that day. Now I was wishing I never had. Sirens suddenly wailed nearby and eventually rushed past us. The glow of the flames grew noticeably brighter in the distance. Smoke visible high above the fields. Holy shit! Come on!
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I wasn't. We shuffled farther through the corn, shoving it aside more aggressively as we went. I could hardly see more than a few feet in front of me. After a while, we could hear a steady buzz of passing vehicles, indicating that we'd reached the city, but also the end of the cornfields. We stepped out onto a road and into the glow of streetlights.
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I felt like I could breathe again for just a moment. You ready? We got to move quick, but we got to blend in. I'd realized in that moment how truly young James was and how insane I was for having put my life in his hands. I was 28, but felt just like the same little girl I was all those years ago, hoping her father would protect her. Only hope James was better at it.
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We dashed across an empty street and then slipped into the downtown area. I kept my head down. Most of the businesses on the strip were closed for the night, but the bar I'd seen earlier was now glowing in its neon signs, which did a good job masking its otherwise unapproachable facade. There were locals standing outside having a smoke, drunkenly arguing about nothing.
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James and I crossed the street. When we reached the bus station, I was relieved to see the lights were still on. This relief would not last forever. Incoming only, folks. You'll have to wait until morning. Sorry. I was already making my way for the exit. James caught up with me.
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I'm getting the fuck out of here. What am I supposed to do? He followed alongside me, being more conspicuous than I would have liked. He stopped and leaned in close.
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Come with me or don't. I'm leaving. I was on the verge of crying, the lump in my throat growing larger. James stood there to complete loss. I looked at him and saw the five-year-old boy who woke up in the night all alone, the streetlights above shining in his eyes like the headlights he'd watched disappear. I'm sorry.
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I couldn't believe I had said it and meant it. Then I realized James couldn't go home. My fire failed, he was going to be on his own, on the run, and homeless at 17. Just like I was. They're going to find Michaela, then you'll be safe. He was trembling.
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I had no answer. Not one he would have liked anyway. Even if he made a call to the police that very moment, I could already see Paul going home and putting the rifle to Linda's head before putting it in his mouth. I wondered if he already had. I think James did too. He leaned into me and started to cry. He was a whole foot taller than me and bony, but I held on to him.
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Not like I had with Paul or Linda, but with earnest. "'Excuse me!' A voice suddenly called out to us. I was about to run when I saw a familiar face. The old man I'd smoked with earlier was approaching us from the mechanic slot next to us. His face twisted when he recognized me back. "'Oh, it's you, Abby, right?' Everything all right over here? James and I looked at each other but said nothing.
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I'll trust you to it. All right. We'll see. Well, if it's horrible, I don't want to be judged. Okay, well, you should be, I think. Also, if my voice is a little rough in this episode, I apologize. I was on a flight yesterday, and there was a guy behind me who just had the wettest... like sickly cough. I think I've ever heard. It sounded like he was like gurgling as he was coughing.
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An idea crossed my mind. Actually, no, sir. We're stuck here, too. The man whose name I'd forgotten grinned. Huh. Well, car's fixed.
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Yes, that's perfect. James and I followed the man back to the lot and hopped into his old station wagon. I took the front. I thanked the old man repeatedly, even offered him gas money, but he refused it. He said he was happy to help. He introduced himself to a catatonic James in back, reminding me his name was Frank.
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Eyes kept darting between Frank's and the rearview mirror he was periodically checking. James was huffing short, panicked breaths. I wondered if he needed his meds. We drove in silence for a while. You couldn't see anything beyond the headlights path, just a deep, empty void. The old man tried to spark up conversation, but neither James nor I were up for it.
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He asked if we wanted the radio on or off, if we were hungry, if we were cold, hot. Each time I told him we were fine. We took the hint and we drove for hours down the same stretch of highway, having barely spoken, until James had fallen asleep.
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Very sure you and your friend are okay. Frank kept his voice just above the hum of the radio. I assured him once more we were fine, and even though my mind was still back on Lincoln Avenue, wondering what had been happening that very moment at the Murray household, if the flames revealed the truth below, or if they were extinguished before they got the chance.
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I played an imagined scene in my mind over and over. the fire trucks, the inspection of the damage, Paul watching eagerly nearby, ready to run, the discovery of bones, the call to the sheriff, the arrest of the man he'd known and tried to help all those years ago, or whom he might now have to hunt down. Well, at least tell me your real name. Frank asked, bringing me back to reality.
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We had so clearly been withholding the truth from this poor man. All he wanted was just a small piece of it. Maybe so he could justify the crazy thing he had done that day. I looked down at my fidgeting hands and noticed the purple bracelet still tight on my wrist. The pink lettering of Michaela's name flashing with every passing streetlight. I'd forgotten that I was still wearing it.
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I thought about how badly I wanted to give her the ending she deserved. The one she'd won for herself. An escape? Freedom? How easy it would have been to do it, to say your name. It's Rachel. I uttered instead. Frank smiled at me.
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I let him drive us another hour. It was almost midnight. When I woke James to get out, he jumped. I had Frank drop us off at a cheap bed and breakfast, something I'd grown quite accustomed to over the years. I tried once more to pay him, but he wound up giving me money instead. It wasn't much, but the gesture alone was beyond kind.
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In spite of everything I'd been through that day and all that came before it, it wasn't any less meaningful coming across someone as genuinely good as that man. I felt bad that I lied to him about my name again.
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That's a fun little way to end that little section of the story.
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We still don't know her. This story has... I'm like... The emotion works. You know, like the... Like her... Like she came from a troubled background and now she kind of sees James in the same position she was. So she feels like this kind of like duty to help him in spite of herself and stuff like that. Like even if it's kind of a...
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Kind of played out thing of like the person who went through trouble wanting to help someone else through the trouble. I like it.
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I was like sitting there and I was like, where are you going with this?
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Maybe I can't write what happened to me, but maybe I can write like the narrative around this girl. Yeah. Yeah. James and I shared a bed sleeping head to toe beside a rattling air conditioner and I wouldn't have slept anyway. I was plenty happy with the four hours I got. I woke early the following morning. I stepped outside for a cigarette and enjoyed every moment of it. I'd quit another day.
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Like, like as the cough was floating around me, like you could smell the pestilence in it. It was rough. So I'm feeling a little under the weather today. I think I caught whatever he has. I am. Um, I'm once again, a rat inside of God's hot car. Uh,
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James was sitting up in bed by the time I went back inside. His hair an awful mess. His tired eyes red. He'd asked me what our plan was. He was impatient and I understood. I told him that we should eat breakfast first and figure it out from there. It had almost been an entire day since I'd last eaten. When we entered the dining area, we saw that there was only a few other guests inside.
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I still wanted a table and back, but James insisted we sit by the bar where a TV was playing the news. I gave in. He's worried about his mother, and I couldn't blame him for that. I'd have been worried about mine too if she were still alive. I was really hoping this aspect of our lives remained different. James was glued to the TV, even as the waitress came and took our order.
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You're going to drive yourself crazy," I told him as she walked away. He shook his head at me and kept his eyes fixed. We sat in silence as we waited for our food, potentially news. Your coat. You left your coat at my house. I laughed, to which James blinked.
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It wasn't long before the waitress arrived with our meals. We ordered the same thing, only my eggs were scrambled. There was something about the smell of bacon and home fries that brought comfort strong enough to make you forget that you were on the run. I moaned at the first bite. Probably could have eaten both plates. You didn't have to moan.
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I even thought I saw a moment of calm in James' face as he ate. TV caught our attention.
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The home of Michaela Murray. James nearly fell out of his seat. Dropped my fork. Home fry fell on the floor.
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I wanted to turn back to James, but was afraid of the look on his face.
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It cut to the sheriff's press conference. He spoke matter-of-factly while cameras clicked all around him.
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The fire department responded to a 911 call around 5 p.m. last night.
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James Quilled. They found her! That is insane that that actually worked. Yeah. Yeah, I'll be honest. I'm like, huh? I did not think that would happen. Yeah, I was like... Wait, hold on. A young woman and child? Yeah. No, there's a child's body down there.
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So one of them is definitely Michaela, but there's also a child down there.
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Oh, that's a good point. OK, so, well, maybe. But anyway. Oh, God. Or it's Michaela. It doesn't. I'm not going to go ahead. yeah i know what you were thinking i know where your brain because my brain also put that together but i'm like i'm not gonna entertain that thought out loud yeah i ignored him my face sunken waitresses and patrons were noticing our panic state something wasn't right
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She'd been buried under there for so long, there shouldn't have been much to find. And a child?
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My God! Yo, oh no! Oh, the humanity. She was alive until last night. Wait, what? Wait, what? Oh, my God. Keep reading. I couldn't feel my body. I turned around and stared down at my shaking hands on the table. The world caving in on me. What happened? James cried. His breathing was heavy. His eyes bulging out of their sockets, staring at me, bewildered. I finally looked at him. I killed Michaela.
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And that's it? She set the fire. I killed her. And that's the story?
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you find out this girl who the whole, the whole ethos has been like, I'm going to make her truth known. I'm going to make her story known. I'm going to do for her what no one did for me. She was alive at the basement. So the implication is that the baby was like an incest baby. Yeah. That's the idea. Yeah. Yeah.
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Um, I mean, maybe she does. Maybe she doesn't know that her daughter is in a bunker outside, you know?
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I doubt the baby was having like toys and babies are us back. This was sort of, this was certainly like a fallout bunker set up. Yeah.
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God. What a bummer ending. Well, she was alive, but we killed her halfway through the story.
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Here we go. I pretended to be a missing girl. Michaela Murray went missing 12 years ago, on the eve of her 18th birthday. She didn't have any big plans or anything, but her friends described her as having been in a particularly good mood for what was an otherwise perfectly normal Friday.
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She had more in common with Michaela than she thought.
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Yeah. Yeah. So Michaela gets kidnapped by her dad thrown in the bunker. That explains why. He suspect James of knowing something and then shoots at our protagonist as they're running away. Cause like, he's trying to keep his, like, uh, his daughter who he's holding. It was like a mother, mother skin, like in the bunker. And he's like shooting at him as they're running away.
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I mean, I guess, but I mean, on one hand, the fire worked by exposing what he was doing, but it also killed Michaela.
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The dad's a psychopath and the mom like genuinely cares about her daughter and doesn't know that her husband is holding her daughter as like a slave wife. Yeah, yeah.
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She'd gone to school, soccer practice, work, and then came home for a night of movies with her kid brother, James. He was more excited for her birthday than she was, even wanted to stay awake with her until midnight, but, of course, had fallen asleep right away.
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Because, yeah, because the mom knows she walks in and they just kill her.
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I mean, a wild movie. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. I'm like, this is a pretty short story compared to how long you could take this idea. So making a film out of this, there's so much potential to expand it, right? Yeah, there's no shot. To add more scenes like that, more levels.
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I'd be down for it if it was satisfied up until that point.
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I think the way the setup worked though, the mom can't know because I think it's stronger that way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And like, if, if this girl pretending to be Michaela walks into the house and the dad knows and the mom knows, and they can just like, and they, and they both know that James is suspicious. They can do whatever they want. They can like,
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kill they can kill this new girl or whatever so i i think that the way the story is written here it has to go that direction but i mean man dude talk about a ride like going from oh we're going to manipulate this family into um they know they're not missing because he killed her then they're shooting at herself and then the end reveal that they killed her in the fire like dude i uh i
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When he woke in the middle of the night, he saw her headlight shining through his window and watched as they rushed down their country road, not knowing that it was the last he'd ever see her. The poor kid was only five and would be forever tormented over why she'd left him, or why she'd never come back.
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Well, that's, that's what, that's what the potential it has when it goes into a film.
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See, I think I saw an article that said he did, or I saw something somewhere that's like, he's being adapted with it or he's a part of the writing team or
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I was looking at Eric Roth. He also wrote like Killers of the Flower Moon. He has so many. He has some accolades. I'm curious to see what dramatic role this goes to. Listen to this. Forrest Gump. Killers of the Flower Moon. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.
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I forget the actor's name. In my head, I imagined him as the guy who plays the zombie in Warm Bodies.
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It wasn't until the sun came up on that cold Saturday morning that anyone realized something was wrong. Her parents entered her room to wish her a happy birthday, only to find her bed empty, car gone, and phone off. They'd started their rounds of calls to all of Michaela's friends, but nobody had seen or heard from her.
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I mean, there's a little bit of our main character being like, I don't want him to be the way I was. She goes from manipulative to wanting to take him with her.
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Yeah, of course, of course. But she did have there. And I think this is probably where the movie will go. She did have a tone midway through of like, maybe I need to tell someone's story just because mine couldn't be told stuff. So there's like, the story tries to set up an understanding of why she's the way that she is with her previous abuse and stuff like that.
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And then it's like, maybe I don't have to be like this just because I grew up like this. Like the story starts to give her an about face when it comes to her motivations and ethics and, But then that's ripped away from her because it turns out, no, you killed the girl who you're trying to write the story of, which is a brutal, brutal slap down.
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Panic really started to set in when Michaela's car was found abandoned on the side of a heavily wooded road, facing the wrong direction, practically in the middle of nowhere. There were no parks or hiking trails, nor were there any signs of a struggle, or any evidence of where she might have gone next. Until Michaela's parents followed that road on a map, they knew she had a boyfriend, Tom.
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But it's just like, I'm trying to tell the story for this girl. Oops.
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That's it. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. What's funny is I'm looking at the original version that was posted in NoSleep. So the original version ends with that conversation in the car where the guy's like, will you at least tell me your name? And she gets out. And then it ends and says...
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I paused, I looked down at my hands, I'd forgotten I was still wearing it, and then says, relax, I didn't do what you think I did. That would have been a mistake. But when the old man dropped me off at the rest stop early the next morning, I saw that I'd already made a much bigger one. And then it links to a picture of a newspaper article that tells us the same thing.
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That says missing girls, body found late last evening. Authorities responded to a house fire in Lincoln Avenue. And then we get the same readout of what happened.
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Yeah, I think this is interesting because I actually hadn't heard of this no sleep story before, and it's only four years old, which for most no sleep stories is pretty short. It's pretty recent.
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He was a year older and had just gone off to college. He'd been trying to get Michaela to come visit him, but her parents forbid it. but if they hadn't, this was the very road Michaela would have taken to get there. So while Linda Murray filed the missing persons report, Paul Murray sped on up that road, all the way to Tom's university.
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You like that? You like caring about these characters. You like that? And it's done. That's going to happen. It's just like, that's what you get. It's just like, and there it is. Bedtime.
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So it's interesting looking at the newspaper clipping ending, which I haven't read the entire version on No Sleep, but going off the newspaper clipping, it seems like in the original version, she ran away on her own and James didn't go with her or got separated from James at some point. And there's no mention of Michaela in the bunker having a child.
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It just says she died in the fire, her body found. And then it says parents Paul and Linda have been placed under arrest with their remaining child James now being questioned by the FBI. So... Thank you.
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Tom swore to him, and later the investigators, that he hadn't seen her in weeks, that he had been in his room studying that night. His roommate confirmed as such, with the added disclosure of having later gone home, where he then spent that weekend. The rest was uncertain.
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The police looked deeper into Tom and found strands of Michaela's hair in his car, which proved nothing foul, but it spooked him enough into admitting that he'd seen Michaela more recently than he'd stated. That he'd picked her up late the weekend prior for a midnight drive. This ended precisely like what had happened the night she'd gone missing, but police found nothing to substantiate it.
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Tom was eventually cleared as a suspect and the Murrays would never let it go. They were certain he was involved in Michaela's disappearance. So certain that Paul Murray spent several nights sitting outside Tom's dorm waiting to catch his daughter going in or out.
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Tom's family wanted to press charges, but Paul had friends in the sheriff's office who assured the family that it would not happen again and left Paul with a very stern warning. But being friends with law enforcement only went so far, and the case would soon go cold. Days, weeks, and months passing by without any further updates.
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The public moved on, while the people in Michaela's life were left with this dark cloud of uncertainty. Wondering what had happened to her. If she was out there somewhere. Alive. And she was. She was about to return home after more than a decade gone. Because I'm Michaela Murray, and I ran away that night to start a new life. That's what I told the Murrays, anyway.
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I had no idea what happened to that girl. That's a fun hook. Okay. That's a fun hook.
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makes it sound like i'm sitting outside the building i don't like right now you're like what's the problem is this a crime i do think uh it is illegal to set outside of a student's dorm or at least like it's probably illegal to the campus right i guess yeah because i well i guess it would be because that's probably private property i would assume they 100 would ask you to leave
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And if you didn't leave, then you'd be trespassing.
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r slash websites i think we're reading the version from r slash short stories because i think it's the updated version yes so the author is a guy named joe coat uh on joe coat no sleep or on reddit his name is j coat 12 um he originally wrote the story to r slash no sleep and it was a shorter version that actually had a link at the end that made it seem like the ending of the story was in a newspaper like it was a newspaper clipping which is pretty cool but
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Mm-hmm. I'm excited. Let's see where this goes. I'm awful. I know. I'm not proud of myself. I was desperate. Homeless and on the run. Smoking a pack a day. Sleeping with men from bars for money. Only to spend it at another bar and do it all over again. Same, honey. I was stuck and needed...
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That's really funny to imagine you, like, going to bars and being like, hey, toots, you looking for a... Oh, no. Someone warm tonight?
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How you doing, sweetheart? What's your name?
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You ever seen that? You just haven't shaved your hair still like the same way. Nothing's changed.
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Damn, a simple no would have been fine. It's like you're like laying in the alley out back. I'll see you around. You don't know what you missed out on.
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I can whistle better. Yeah. So this is you. The story's about you actually. Sydney Sweeney's playing you in the movie.
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So the recording's been going 17 minutes and 31 seconds. I was wondering how long it would take you to mention Sidney Sweeney's chest. I was proud of you for not doing it in the intro, but 17 minutes, 31 seconds.
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But you still mentioned them. I just knew it would come up eventually. That's fair.
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I was proud of you for not bringing it up in the intro. That was a big step. I know. I'm very proud of you, Hunter. I was stuck and needed a plan. Then I saw her face. Mikayla Murray. It was on a bulletin board at some cheap motel I'd been passing through. There were half a dozen girls out there, and Mikayla stood out. Her blonde hair straight and pretty, her blue eyes as white as her smile.
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It stopped me dead in my tracks, because she looked like me. Exactly like me. I could have swapped in one of my old high school photos and nobody would have noticed. Not that anyone was paying attention to this board or these girls anymore. Even the lady at the motel who spotted me staring said, I ain't coming home, dear, but I don't got the heart to take him down.
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I was curious enough to turn on the phone I'd kept in my bag just in case. My father had long stopped paying for it, but the motel offered free Wi-Fi, and I'd used it to read more about Michaela. I learned that she was only two years older than me, that the photo in the lobby wasn't just a one-off.
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She resembled me in every other photo, of which there were many, along with theories about what had happened to her. I couldn't have given any less of a shit about that rabbit hole. What got my interest were the earrings Michaela wore in these photos, or the necklace her mother wore at the press conference, or the watch on her dad's wrist.
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As I dug deeper, it became clear that the Murrays had money. A fair good amount of it. After entering Jerry from the... Damn.
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But then he decided to do a rewrite, add on to the story a bit more, and posted a second version of it in r slash short story. So that's the version we're going to be reading today. But both of those say they were posted four years ago. So as far as like horror stories on Reddit goes, that's pretty recent from what we've seen.
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Who's there? I said that, and I'm like, all right, well, that was like a trap card for Hunter.
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Yeah. Hunter gets to draw three additional insults from his deck. Yeah, you're gay. That's just pot of green steel.
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The only description he gives us is he's glassy-eyed and mute, right?
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My uncle was questioned about the incident, of course, but denied ever seeing the boy, let alone speaking to him or causing him harm. This event left me even more isolated from the other children. Before that night, they might have included me in their torments, but once Jamie had been forever silenced, they avoided me completely. I very rarely saw Uncle Marsh in person.
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So this seems to be an up-and-coming writer. So if this story is cool, you all certainly check him out. And hopefully... Nick continues to make these kinds of things. But first of all, let's check out the story. It's got an 8.7 out of 10 on creepypasta.com, which is pretty good.
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Occasionally, he would show up at a family get-together or function to make a token effort to remind us that he still existed in this world, only to disappear just as abruptly as he had arrived. My father, in particular, despised the man. He hated the appearance of his brother-in-law, and he hated that his wife and son were kin to the man.
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Most of all, he hated the way Marsh collected queer objects and strange, moldy tomes. Marsh was something of a scholar, at least of a certain sort, and loved to devour information from his astounding collection of books. His library consisted of a mass of sprawling grimoires and papers scattered around his living room in no discernible order.
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Chaotic, crumbling mess of ancient and esoteric knowledge. Many of those decaying musty volumes were written in languages unspoken in the isolated villages and hamlets of northwest England. Arcade German, French, Latin, Greek, scripts so wholly alien in structure that they must have been impossibly extraterrestrial in origin.
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Other, far stranger items dotted the cramped rooms of the cottage that Marsh called home. Warped, bent skulls, exotic stuffed birds, crystals shaped in geometric arrangements that were maddingly complex. This was the legacy of my Uncle Marsh, a repulsive, isolated, semi-antiquarian, semi-human recluse, obsessed with the forbidden and in love with the wicked and strange.
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At the edge of a cemetery in a swamp on the corner of town. Like a Resident Evil house. It really is.
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You're talking about, you're talking about Resident Evil biohazard. My apology.
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Yeah, it's like it's constantly humid there. It's like a swamp bubbles up. Everything stinks. Yeah.
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He's an old man. That's what they do. Look, they're old. Do you want them to not put people in swamps, in swamp nets?
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Okay, so I guess he's just not supposed to use it. If you want him to not use it, you should have talked to him before he bought the net.
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Look, if you're willing to make a deal, that's fine. But to just ask him not to do it, I feel is a little unfair.
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It was at the tail end of like parents recognizing that children can die.
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Well, it depends if it's a famous story. No, because then people will vote it highly or lowly for the meme, right? Like jump the killers, like nine stars or something, right. Or wise, um, to, because it's funny, but if it's not super popular, then typically the ratings are more legitimate because people are rating it in earnest.
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No, absolutely not. I'm with the kids. I'm throwing eggs at his house.
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Fucking slits my throat in my sleep. I would love an excuse to use my stinger ground doctrine to eliminate this freak from the earth.
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All these memories and thoughts flashed vividly in my mind as I sat opposite the stern, cold face of Mr. Fisher, my family's long-suffering solicitor. Just seconds ago, he had impassionately read out aloud the contents of my uncle's last will and testament, in which a man I barely knew and had good reason to despise had left me all his earthly and unearthly possessions.
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Uncle Marsh's death had been as singular and strange as his life. In the early morning of July the 24th, 1954... Oh my God, bear trap moment.
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What do you mean bear trap moment? Didn't they say... I said it wasn't going to be in the 50s. You know what? That is a...
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bear trap that one was pretty good that one was that one i will say i was not getting 50s at all i was getting like 1800s really you were did you actually think it was going to be like 1800s something about the reading in the early part made me feel like this was like an old village i mean dude it reads like fucking hansel and gretel or something yeah that's what gave me the idea of like grim's fairy tale yeah yeah yeah i mean it has that vibe
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Until he said high school, or not high school, he said summer break. And I was like, okay, maybe not then. But you saying 50s, I was like, no way. And that, all right, you know what? You can have this one. Fine, whatever.
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In the early morning of July 24th, 1954, he had stood naked on the sands of Seascale Beach, Copeland, Cumbria, and walk slowly and deliberately into the waiting maw of the churning Irish Sea. trill of large, flat footprints in the sand, and a pile of scattered clothing were all that had remained of the man.
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You know what this feels like a lot to me? This feels like it would be an Ito story.
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So if you go to like binge around, it's got thousands of 10 stars. Cause people are, you know, being the people, um, But something like this, having 8.7 is probably pretty close, pretty close to the bottom.
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I can almost see in my mind this being like an Ito comic, like a large glassy-eyed man who, like, you see him transform into a fish as he's walking.
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It's a lot like that vignette from Uzumaki, the kid that becomes a snail. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Very similar. Although a body was never found, he was declared legally dead some years after and had left instructions with Mr. Fisher that I, his only nephew, was to receive all he had ever owned. The significance of the location of his demise was not lost upon me.
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For decades ago, my family had lived in the town of Seascale. The sea had always been in the family's blood. Many a marsh had took to the waves as fishermen, sailors, and even pirates. The least of one was to believe the various myths and legends surrounding us, for the marsh blood was tainted, or so the story said. This is... Dude, I feel, like, cozy right now. Like, the... You know what?
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It kind of feels like a sea shanty, too. Yeah, yeah. Like, the way it's worded and, like, my family comes from the sailors of the sea. And it's like they got a curse at some point that made them, like, into fish people or whatever. It's like, this is Joe.
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I'm honestly dumb to it as well, especially... I'm surprised you've never done a video on, like, the North Sea.
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I kind of touched on it before, and, like... other videos I've talked about like the, um, cause a lot of that relates to like the idea of like the wool, like the lost country and the ice wall and stuff like that. And, you know, maps and things like that. So I've kind of touched on that a little bit, but not specifically the North sea, but yeah, you're right.
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That would be, that would be something interesting looking to the original branch of the family had come to England from the United States where a great deal of my relatives had lived in the decaying and damned port town of Innsmouth, Massachusetts. Yeah. Oh, there it is. There she is.
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There she goes. For those that don't know, Innsmouth is a city that's mentioned a lot in Lovecraft's words.
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So pretty, pretty recent, especially like older stories on creepypasta.com too have been around there long enough that people have like voted willy-nilly on stuff. But if it's this recent, most people who are still reading the website mean it, right? I don't think so. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see.
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The fish people. Innsmouth itself was a nest of horrid myths and repulsive witch lore. We had come to Cumbria under a cloud of dark suspicion and dread, chased out by the locals as warlocks and werewolves. forced to cross the bitter Atlantic and finally ejected upon the shores of Old Blighty. Whatever is, was, that had... Oh, this language.
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Whatever is, was... Whatever is, was, that had segregated us from the other branches of the family. For many a marsh still resided in Rotting Innsmouth. One can say... My grandparents certainly would not discuss the matter.
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My own family had made the move away from Copeland and into the small village of Barton, Cheshire, due to a chance meeting between my mother and father during a blistering hot summer holiday, which my father had chosen to spend by the seaside. Oh, he was by the sea and fell in love with a mermaid? Is that where this is going?
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I always like it because, for one, sea shanties are beautiful and stuff like that. But I always like these. like pirate lore and stuff like that. Cause I am terrified of the ocean. So I love the idea for one of monsters being it, but I also love the kind of person that would like best it, that would want to conquer it. Yeah.
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If you don't have a fear of the ocean, if I'm being honest, a hundred percent, it's terrifying, but that's why there's such a, it's so cool to have stories of people like wanting to sail to it. Like, you know, conquer them.
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I think the bottom of the ocean is the most terrifying concept in the world to me. I'm also incredibly claustrophobic. I don't even like thinking about this.
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And they can move through it way better than you can, and your visibility is lower.
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Yeah, you pass an area called the midnight zone where there's zero light particles. Like, they just quit.
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I'm going to start throwing hands. I'm at my limit. My father had been a keen lover of architecture, from ancient Roman ruins to Georgian estates. He had traveled the length and breadth of Britain in search of historical adventure. He was during such a trip that he learned of Seaskill and its magnificent Victorian hotel, the Scafell.
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What's your opinion of Lovecraft and how much stuff of his are you familiar with?
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During his stay in the town, he had encountered my mother on the beach. She collected various seashells, live crabs and bits of driftwood. Trapped by her large green eyes and raven black hair, Father spent much of the summer with the strange girl who had become my mother, but quickly became close friends with confidence. Talk about seagirls, black hair, green eyes. Goddamn, dude.
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Let's go, brother. Some months later, two young lovers were engaged, made the move to my father's home village, marrying at the parish church before buying a home in one of the cramped, sloping alleys of shadow-haunted Barton. Fortunately, there had been an unwelcome catch to his otherwise auspicious joining. Sebastian, my mother's elder brother, would also be making the move to Martin with them.
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My grandparents, you see, were sadly in no fit state to look after the man, who was himself somewhat mentally disadvantaged, or backward, as my father would say, wholly ignorant of the many social norms we often take for granted in this day and age.
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The Elder Marshes were hopelessly advanced in age, too, and it was clear that they feared for their son's well-being when the inevitable shedding of their mortal coil take them to the cold and unwelcoming grave.
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So with great reluctance, but also out of love for his wife, my father agreed to take Sebastian with them to Martin, where he lived with them for several months before finally acquiring the decomposing cottage in the woods behind the cemetery. Not long after my parents' marriage, my Marsh grandparents succumbed to a kind of wasting disease.
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I never actually seen either of them, nor had my father encountered them more than a handful of times, as they did not even have the strength to attend their daughter's wedding. Sebastian and my mother both attended the funeral in Seascale, in which a few gray, shadowy strangers appeared, many of them also bearing the odd, marsh look.
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It was during this time that my uncle acquired the vast bulk of his blighted library and bizarre trinkets from my grandparents' home, nestled as they were in the boarded-up attic bedroom, which they had queerly spent the majority of their latter years in total seclusion.
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Years passed by in Barden, and while my parents had a home for themselves and started a family, my uncle continued to live alone in the woods. His collection of fungal books, stuffed animals, his only company.
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As I have already mentioned, I was by no means close to my uncle, and although I did not hate him with the burning vitriol my father had reserved for the man, he had still unnerved and nauseated me on the few occasions I was unlucky enough to be in the same room as him, and I was genuinely taken aback by being made his sole heir.
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All this, no doubt, accounted for the puzzled look that must have graced my face and to which roused Mr. Fisher to once again break me away from my daydreaming with a short, deliberate cough.
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Snapping out of my thoughts, I focused upon the solicitor and smiled a weak, apologetic expression, and he proceeded to inform me that the cottage was in a cankerous state of decline and would be unsafe and unfit for habitation and advised me strongly from entering it, instead suggesting I hire a few locals to fetch me whatever items I desired and deposit them at my own home.
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He assured me that any effort made to restore the cottage would be nothing but a cash sink and a complete waste of time. It was decayed even by the standards of the other groaning properties that dotted the woods. Truth be told, I had no desire to enter it.
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He gave me a few more details about various bits and pieces my uncle had left me, a few pounds whirled away in a bank account, and also the residence that my grandparents had lived in back in Seaskill, which I simply asked him to put up for sale on my behalf and to sell as cheaply as possible. As luck would have it, he managed to sell it quickly to a distant relative.
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Marsh's cousin, who still resided in the seaside town and wished for whatever reason to acquire the property. After leaving Mr. Fisher's paperwork, I left the office and headed straight to my parents' home to talk about the matter with them both in full.
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My father seemed quite dismissive of the whole affair, assuming wrongly that I would have no interest in anything that had belonged to his deceased nemesis. My mother, on the other hand, seemed greatly unnerved by the matter, at first probing me to see what my intentions were regarding my uncle's belongings.
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Upon hearing that I would be taking them all to my home and cataloging them at my leisure, she could hardly contain her anxiety. This confused me greatly. I assured her that I simply wished to see if there was anything of worth to be sold to collectors, and this seemed to calm her briefly.
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Finding some local strong arms to move the immense hoard of junk from my uncle's cottage into my home proved to be quite difficult at first. Most men of labor in Barton proved to be stupefying in their reluctance to enter gunner's cloth and superstitious regarding the marsh name.
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In the end, I was able to hire a few Polish laborers who, despite being superstitious themselves, were strangers to Barton and ignorant of the mark upon my family's name.
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I busied myself with work during the week or so it took to ransack my uncle's cottage, and at first barely noticed the hoard of books, stuffed animals, skulls, crystals, and various other brick-a-brack that I had the workers stack as neatly as possible in my cellar.
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By the time they had finished, the once-vacant space beneath my house had become a labyrinth worthy of creep, a tartarus of crinkled yellow papers and moaning, saggy shelves.
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Fortunately, I had fitted the old cellar with electricity when I moved in, but the feeble light provided by that one naked bulb hanging in the center of the room seemed to cast more shadow than light, and gave the various glassy-eyed dead animals a haunting quality that kept me away from the collection until I could find someone to take the whole ungodly collection off my hands.
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The whole collection stayed well out of my mind in life for some weeks to come, as work kept me busy and I put off my once-planned mass cataloging in favor of working towards a promotion at the office where I worked as a minor clerk.
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However, when some promotion passed me by, I took a few weeks' leave from my job and decided to see how much money I could make from selling my uncle's grim treasure trove. Working through the collection proved to be a lesson in patience, and it took what seemed to be a lifetime to separate my uncle's notes and diaries from actual printed books and handwritten manuscripts.
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I forgot that Arkham House was Lovecraft stuff originally. So I always think of Batman whenever I think of Arkham.
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When I finally did so, I had before me a collection of wicked and unwholesome tomes. Musty, fat, and swollen with hundreds of pages of information, some of the books dated back centuries. The volumes before me threw me into a state of excitement at the possibility of how much cash could be coughed up by a willing collector. I wrote down the names of as many of the books as I could.
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There was Cultus de Gulis by the Comte de Erte, Der Vermis Mysteris, penned by the necromancer Ludwig Prynne, and Unus Preclacin Colton by Frederick von Juntz. There was also an English translation of a book called Things of the Water, its original title, C'thoth Aquadingen. C'thoth, we get the c'thoth, the thing. Chip of the hat, my lord. Chip of the... Erm, your gold, sir.
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I've tried to get him to read this story for a while now, and he's been like, oh, because I thought it sounds cool. But then he has that intro, so he did think it sounded cool this entire time. He just didn't want to show me enthusiasm for the thing I was interested in. That's fine. That's fine. We're reading it anyway, so it's whatever. But yes, today we are reading Dagon's Mirror.
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Presented on the inner pages in a sprawling, spidery penmanship that I suspected to be of my uncle's creation. The latter was filled with pages of notes written by my uncle. Various rites and rituals underlined in pencil appeared sporadically throughout the interior.
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I tried my best to skim the book, being one of the few written in English, but its contents were so haphazardly laid out and unorganized that I simply could not digest any significant information from within, instead relying upon various words underlined by my uncle. These included, "'Father Dagon, Mother Hydra.'" Cthulhu, Ubo Sathla, Azatoth, and other stranger arrangements of letters.
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Admittedly, I was totally ignorant of the contents of all the books presented before me and dismissed them as either works of fiction or loose fantastical treaties of witchcraft and the occult.
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Neither of these topics interested me in the slightest, so I decided to write down all I could think of as interesting to collectors such as titles, authors, dates, and the strange names of pseudo-gods and prehistoric peoples. I put them in a letter that I sent off to several rare booksellers in London. It did not take long for a reply to reach me.
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One Dr. Artemis Harlan Glass, a collector and bibliophile, had been put in touch with me via one of his contacts and wrote me a fevered response. His excitement barely contained within his beautifully worded letter, he offered to buy the entire collection from me for a king's ransom.
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It was a six-figure sum, so high that I had to sit down immediately upon reading it in order to finish his letter in full and had to re-read it several times to let its contents fully sink in. Dr. Glass had also made it clear that he wanted any and all personal notes made by the book's previous owners in full, which I understood given the gibberish contents contained within the tomes.
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However, I decided that I would not hand over my uncle's diaries for whatever absurd sentimental reason I may have attached to them. In my reply to the doctor, I simply stated that the collection had come as is and that no notes had been found among them.
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I did, however, smooth this over by stating that several of the books had pages underlined with a few scribbles here and there, denoting other manuals and page numbers where other notes and information could be found.
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It wasn't quite the spiderweb of information the doctor had sought, but it appeared to please him nonetheless, and he organized to come and collect the books in person at a prearranged date just a few days after his reply to my offer.
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I informed my parents over some afternoon tea of what the doctor had offered me for the books, and to much humor, my father nearly spat out a mouthful of Earl Grey upon hearing that his son was to become so fabulously wealthy. He seemed overjoyed at the news, not for any dreams of personal gain. He had always been the non-materialistic type, but at the life such money could provide for me.
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I knew that he was also secretly happy that being related to Sebastian March had actually paid off in the end, and the money was at once a source of sweet revenge for him and an ointment to smooth over the wounds left by their various clashes. My mother's reaction was somewhat similar to my father's, but I could not help but think that it was all a put-on.
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This is great things to say about an author we're just now introducing to a large audience, I think. So very good. Good on you for that. I will say I like Lovecraft stuff a lot. I've made a video about Call of Cthulhu, which is his most famous work, but Lovecraft has all kinds of... interesting stories and topics like, and I really love the way a lot of his work gets adapted.
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act, and that she truly did not want to see my uncle's library in the hands of a stranger. If she had but voiced her concerns, I may have changed my mind, or at least sold perhaps only half of the collection left to me. I informed her that I intended to keep my uncle's diaries and personal notes, but she simply shrugged whilst nursing a lukewarm cup of tea.
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My father made a comment about how they would best be used to kindle a fire, and we quickly moved on to the topic of what I would be doing with the money that was soon coming my way. I'll admit that when the day came for the doctor to collect the books, a cloud of regret had fallen over me.
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Despite the ludicrous amount of money that he was offering, I felt somewhat reluctant to part with my uncle's collection. These feelings of doubt, however, were quickly dispelled as a series of brisk rapping penetrated the quiet of my usual afternoon routine, and I opened my front door to welcome my visitor.
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Dr. Glass had an appearance wholly shocking and disturbing to me, despite my familiarity with the grotesque and misshapen. He was both painfully thin and shockingly tall. Despite being bent over at the shoulder, he still towered over me by a clear foot.
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He had the complexion of a fresh corpse, blood drained and transparent, while his head was crowned by a thick head of bushy hair, raven black despite his obvious advanced age. Clothes, too, were as distinct as the man himself, for he clearly dressed in the manner of the gentleman many decades removed from the current age we occupied.
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These fine clothes were, however, somewhat lost on the man, as his willow-like frame caused them to hang off him like folds of dark, dead skin. This scarecrow of a man stood at my threshold, nodded, and extended a withered, wrinkled hand which I met, almost in a trace, with my own. I tried my best not to be repulsed by the doctor's winter-cold skin and long nails as our hands clasped.
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but I feared that a modicum of my discomfort must have been made apparent to the man as a cruel smirk broke across his features as I stepped aside to let him in. I watched as the vampiric form of the doctor entered my home.
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Another wave of anxiety washed over me, for the man whom I had just invited into my house was so far removed from what I imagined a cultivated millionaire scholar to look like that I half fancied a cruel hoax being played upon me. I'd already prepared the collection, and they stood on the table in my living room, wrapped in brown paper and string.
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Upon seeing the pile, the doctor turned to me with his pale gray eyes and spoke to me in a voice so frail and hollow that I had to strain to hear the shriveled syllables that emanated faintly from his thin lips.
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I nodded automatically, as if hypnotized by the man's voice, and watched in fright as he glided over to the table and used his long, gnarled talons to cleanly remove the brown paper barring him from the prize that lay underneath.
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I watched the grim spectacle of the doctor using his sharp nails like some kind of organic letter opener and then greedily scooping up the books in his hands, flicking through their contents with the hungry gaze of a wild predator. Happy with his lot, he turned to me and without even looking me in the eye, sharply withdrew a folded check from his waistcoat pocket and handed it to me.
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Uh, like probably my favorite season of television ever true detective, you know, season one, of course, uh, is like based off of like Lovecraft stories and theories and stuff like that. So it's, it's all very cool. Um,
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I unfolded it and was once again taken aback by the amount written upon it along with my name, quickly placed it in the top drawer of my study desk with an obvious, avaricious celerity. Our business seemingly concluded, I regained my senses and offered the doctor some refreshment.
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which he took thankfully as he singled out a seat in my lounge and with great effort lowered his mummified body down onto. As I poured us both a cup of tea, he continued to plump through his new acquisitions with a look of pure joy. It was a look that seemed out of place, and it was disturbing to see it grow upon his cold, rigid face.
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We talked at length for several hours, during which time he made several inquiries as to where I had acquired my collection, and I felt that he was trying his best to gauge just how much I knew about it.
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Be one of the world's worst liars, I couldn't bring myself to deceive the man who had given me such a huge fortune for some old books and decided instead to tell him exactly where I had acquired the collection.
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I told him all about my uncle, the Marsh family, and our Innsmouth origins, along with the legends surrounding the Gunner's Cloth and the horrible fates that had befallen several of Barton's children. the latter of which he did not seem entirely ignorant of. He listened with interest as I reeled off the collection of even stranger relics that still sat waiting in my cellar to be catalogued.
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Upon hearing this, the doctor set aside his tea and asked politely if he could be permitted to look over these objects. As being knowledgeable of such things, he could quite possibly put me in contact with several antiquarians of his acquaintance who might be interested in purchasing them from me.
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I saw little reason to deny the man who had so generously secured my future and helped to lead him gently down into my cellar by one of his spindly arms. Upon reaching the bottom of the creaking stairs to join the cellar to my house, I stood back as he picked through the objects like a carrion crow looking for the juiciest parts of a rotten corpse. He ignored most of the artifacts before him.
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picking up several crystals and tossing them back dismissively, before making his way to the back of the cellar where, covered in a dusty sheet, stood a tall object that I had yet to bother with, which he revealed at once dramatically with a swift, sharp tug.
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As the dirty, grayed sheet fell ennobling to the ground, the spectacle before us caused us both to pause slack-jawed for its horrid resplendence. For resting gently against the wall, there stood an object so magnificent and terrifying that neither of us could barely speak a word for several minutes, frozen as we were in complete awe.
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It was a mirror that stood some seven feet tall, three feet wide. A perfect rectangle that was framed by the most amazing display of carved golden creatures the like of which I had never seen. The frame was a collection of fish, crustaceans, octopods, and amphibians, all carved beautifully out of a spectral white gold.
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At either end of the mirror, there stood a large carving of what at first appeared to be a mermaid and a merman. On closer inspection, the faces of these characters were not fully human. being instead a horrible amalgamation of fish, frog, octopus, and man.
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They danced and frolicked along the mirror's edge in such a vivid manner that they appeared to sway, as if caught in an invisible breeze, causing my head to spin slightly if I looked upon them for too long. The mirror itself was equally bizarre. A green-blue tint was washed over the glass, and even in the dim light of the cellar, it was obvious that it did not fully reflect the room back at us.
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Instead, it distorted our reflections in a wavy, sloshing manner that made it appear like we were instead looking upon our faces from a murky pond or pool. The doctor stood forward and ran his hands over the gold frame, and shockingly... He gripped the tail of one of the carved mermen, and with great ease, simply bent it and pulled it off.
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The metal fin he then worked over in his hands, rubbing it between his fingers, where it molded and distorted like clay, and not as any earthly metal should have. The plastic metal he then rolled into a ball and placed in one of his pockets. He then bent down with a grimace gesture and picked up the sheet to cover the mirror once more.
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He turned to me with clear concern, etched over his gray face, and suggested that we leave the cellar immediately and make for the lounge. Upon seeing himself back down, he requested some fresh tea and bid me to sit with him. Bro, this story.
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I'm in. Yeah, this is so fun. This is just the way it's worked, the mystique of it.
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It could be It could be, but it could also be that the dad's just dumb to it and didn't like how weird and like the shame that his brother-in-law brought on the family. That's true. But maybe the mom knows and knows that there's a power to this kind of thing. And that's the kind of curse that's affected their family. And that's why it's now been passed off to him. But there's like...
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Maybe the mirror, it says it looks like you're looking into water, like you're seeing your reflection in water. Maybe it can summon things. Maybe it could change you. I think the doctor's about to explain, so I'll keep reading. But yeah, just want to comment. The reason I'm so locked in is because this is dope. I'm loving this. We have not got a story like this, I don't think, yet. This is great.
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The doctor then proceeded to tell me such a fantastic and macabre story that I became dazed, swooning on occasion at the strange mysteries he was inducting me into. He spoke as if my uncle's collection of books were factual, containing within them all the lore of mankind and the millions of years that had rolled on before our race made the slow climb down from the trees.
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He spoke of extraterrestrial invaders who had once called the Earth home, creatures that had seeped down from the stars and held dominion over our world while man's most distant ancestors were still billions of years from appearing on the cosmic stage. These dreadful beings, gods compared to humanity, had experimented with life and in an accident had given birth to the ancestors of the human race.
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He spoke of the elder things, the old ones, the dreaded fungi of Ugoth. as well as the great race of Yith. All visitors to our small and lonely blue planet, he spoke also of the few remnants of this horrid mythology that could still be found swimming and plodding in the darkest reaches of our planet's oceans. This last point he spent much of his time elaborating upon.
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bringing out quotes and page references from things of the water, uttering those unspeakable names I had once glanced over myself, Cthulhu, Dagon, Hydra, the last two of which had their images carved into the mirror's frame.
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represented by the frog-fish thing seated at either end of the disturbing object, a whole race separate from humankind, but also disgustingly intertwined with it, that lived undying in the dim breaches of the ocean bed, swimming through the slowly dissolving ruins of dead, sunken cities such as the dread Yunthalae, where the sun's rays failed to penetrate through the salty gloom. Oh, brother.
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Oh, Hunter. Oh, baby. What do we do? What do we do to deserve all this? Oh, it's so good. Oh, it's just so cool. It's so cool. I love it so much. That's one of my favorite things about like Call of Cthulhu. Like how it talks about there's a city that like is so big we can't comprehend it and it lies beneath the ocean. Things like Cthulhu seem dead or they seem gone because they're just sleeping.
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Yeah. He spoke of an ancient pact made with these Deep Ones that resulted in a mixed heritage of humans and something, and of the twisted families of New England who carried this taint within their blood, marshes being but one. He spoke too about the mirror in my cellar.
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Occasionally the Deep Ones had made such a gift to the tribes of humans who had worshipped them and their old gods as a means of contacting the people below the waves, should they ever be needed in dire times or upon the approaching times of their disgusting. unholy rites.
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By the time the doctor had finished spinning his tale of antiquated horror, the hour had grown late, far too late for him to catch the last train back to London, and so, with a little reluctance, I assured him that a bed would be available for him in my guest room. He retired long before I did.
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Better be fish people. That's all I got to say. I hope there's fish people. I hope there is as well, buddy. We'll see. Or this could also be based off another thing about the old, like, Old Testament god Dagon, but whatever. We'll see. Dagon, Samir, are you ready to begin? Oh, I'm ready. Uncle Marsh had always been the black sheep of our family.
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I found it difficult to sleep at all after hearing about the so-called marsh taint and how it connected with things written down centuries ago within the books my uncle had kept and adored. Was Uncle Marsh looking for something within those books? Was he looking for a cure to his condition, perhaps?
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Whatever he had uncovered from the tome, it had caused him to calmly walk beneath the waves of the freezing Irish Sea without so much as a second glance back at the life he once lived. I do not know exactly what time I had fallen asleep on the couch. A half-empty glass of brandy still cradled in my hand, but I was aware of what had stirred me from the depths of my slumber.
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It had been a crashing sound, like something heavy falling down, and it had greatly disturbed the silence of the house. Blinking the fatigue from my eyes, I immediately thought of the doctor and imagined, aged as he was, that he had left his bed in the night to make use of the facilities and had fallen in the dark.
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Dancing up the steps slightly, I found the door to my guest room open widely, and upon inspection found no occupant within. Indeed, the bed looked like he had not been touched at all. I continued my investigation, finding no one in any of the upper rooms. Hurrying back downstairs, I made for the kitchen and was greeted by a source of light emanating from under the door leading to the cellar.
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Pausing as I touched the door handle, I took a moment to collect my thoughts. Just what was the doctor doing down there? I quietly opened the door and winced as it made a light creaking noise. Whatever misdemeanor the doctor was performing within my home, I was eager to catch him at it red-handed and without excuse.
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As I walked slowly down those rickety wooden stairs, I noticed that the light coming from the cellar was not from the bulb I had fitted, but instead from the far corner. That it was no ordinary light. but a curious green gold that bathed the various artifacts and boxes in a sick phantom glow.
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The scene that greeted me was at once mesmerizing and terrifying, for the glow appeared to come from the mirror itself, which was lying flat upon the floor and not up against the wall as we had left it. The light immediately began to wane as I drew closer until it finally extinguished altogether, causing me to retreat to the stairs and turn on the electric light.
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As the orange bulb hummed into life, another scene invaded my senses and caused my heart to fly into a panic. As bundled up against the wall before me, there lay the doctor. his limbs stiff and his face frozen in an agonizing, bulging-eyed fright. The doctor's lifeless hands were clawing at his own throat.
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A strange smell, like that of the rotting debris found on the beach, penetrated the whole room. With ultimate horror, I noticed a set of wet, inhuman footprints leading from where the mirror lay to where the doctor had expired. Carefully, I made my way down to the floor where the terrible prints lay.
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A thorn in my father's side and a constant reminder of how corrupt and decayed our ancestral roots truly were. Sebastian Frederick Marsh was my mother's elder brother. A genetic throwback. A deviant. If the rumors surrounding him were true, a man acquainted with the most hellish of sins. His appearance was enough to make the most stoic of hearts skip a beat before its shambling gate.
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The water that composed them was thick and gluey, and possessed an awful stench of the sea that made bile rise in my throat. Suddenly, the mirror caught my eye, and I half fancied I saw the surface of it ripple like disturbed water, as if something had just decided to spy upon me before quickly retreating.
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I must have been fainted, for the whole room around me slowly disappeared in a cloud of gray and merciful oblivion, took me away from the cellar, doctor's corpse, the smell of rotting driftwood, and the odious presence of the mirror. Oh, man. That's so cool, Hunter. The mirror looked like water when it was on the ground, and there was something that surfaced in it. There's a great scene.
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The idea of something behind them is terrifying, right? Yeah, of course. Because they give the perception of space, even though nothing's there. So to imagine that there is a space, it's just one we can't see. It's like it plays on natural human-like experience. Like, I see things through there. I know they're not real, but what if they are real? Right. Like, it's fun.
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Of course, an investigation was carried out by the local constabulary, whom I had contacted as soon as my constabulary, Consciousness?
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"...whom I had contacted as soon as my consciousness had returned from whatever restful place it had been slumbering.
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I was deeply worried that I would come under suspicion of foul play, but upon hearing that the doctor was paying me close to a million pounds for some antique books, a fortune I would no longer be getting due to a dispute with his estate that I later became embroiled in, I was cleared of any wrongdoing.
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It was ruled that the doctor had suffered a heart attack and died of natural causes while looking around in the dank of my cellar." For whatever reason, the police force decided to conjure up in their follow-up report. I did not mention the mirror and lied when informing the police that the light of my cellar was on when I found the doctor's body.
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In truth, I had returned the mirror to its position, complete with covered sheet before I had called the police and had also taken the pieces of gold from his pockets. I did this in order to deprive the police of a motive, but also because I simply had no desire for the mirror to come under anyone's scrutiny.
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And I told a single living soul about strange, glowing, and disgusting seaside stenches attached to the grisly scene in my cellar. I had little doubt I would have been carted away and given a new home at Byron House.
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Thankfully, I still had plenty of time left before returning to work, so I was able to come to terms with the loss of my dreams and ambitions that the doctor's money would have afforded me. It was particularly crushing to have had such a fortune laid before me, only to have it cruelly snatched away, seemingly by one of my uncle's possessions.
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I had purposefully kept the thought of the mirror and of those dread footprints far out of my mind, but try as I might, they returned again and again to me, mainly at night when lost in the abyssal embrace of hypnos.
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Again and again the grotesque pantomime played out in my dreams, occasionally with extra details that had either been omitted from the original memory due to shock or added anew from the depths of my disturbed imagination. Sometimes the doctor was still on the cusp of life, sputtering out a blood-drenched warning and pointing at the mirror desperately in his last thrashing moments.
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Other times I witnessed his body slowly being dragged into the mirror as its glass surface splashed and rippled like water. Finally, one terrible night, I had seen what I thought to be a huge, flabby claw sinking back into the surface of the mirror with deliberate...
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flat-headed, thick-lipped, and possessing the largest, glassiest bulging eyes found in the sockets of any earthbound creature. Is this how you would describe me?
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Lugubrious? Lugubrious? With deliberate lugubrious intent. Lugubrious. Lugubrious. Lugubrious. I've never heard that word in my life.
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Okay, lugubrious is an adjective that means causing or marked by an atmosphere lacking in cheer. Red Bull. Cause your mark on S for lacking in cheer. Red Bull. Red Bull, thank you.
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This dream sickness soon became an invading presence in my life, and even when the time came for me to return to work, I would often be so fatigued from the stress of my nightmares that I would finish work early or call in sick on the days after I had experienced a strange session of the feverish night, haunted imaginings.
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I consulted my family doctor who simply dismissed the dreams and prescribed me sleeping pills which I soon discovered made my dreams more vivid, forcing me to discard them after just two nights. Yeah, great time. Desperate to starve off the midnight illusions that plagued my dreams, I took to consuming copious amounts of black coffee and spending my nights sat in my garden smoking cigarettes.
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However, this too did little to alleviate my condition, as the glowing stars looking down upon me took on a far more sinister meaning since my talk with the doctor and I quickly grew fearful of their incessant twinkling. This period of restlessness lasted for nearly a month and resulted in me being fired from my job and losing what little human contact I had in my lonesome life.
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It was an irregular visit from my mother, however, brought me out of my malaise and sharpened my focus once more. I confided in her all those things that Dr. Glass had told me on that fateful night and watched her face remain unchanged throughout the entire revelation. Not so much a revelation for her, I felt.
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Surprisingly, she said very little and simply made a comment while sipping a cup of tea in my garden. Such things had been said about the Marsh family for years, as well as cursed Innsmouth from which our family came. She did admit that she knew very little of our family's roots and had almost no contact with relatives.
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She had practically raised herself, and it was my uncle who had cared for and spent most of his waking hours with their decrepit parents before they died. She then casually reminded me that Marsh had bought my grandparents' house not long after I had been left in my uncle's will, and I realized that I could perhaps alleviate myself of my uncle's possessions in the hopes it would calm my mind.
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Quick visit to Mr. Fisher, and I was furnished with the name Eli Marsh. some kind of distant cousin on my mother's side who had bought and moved into the rotting home my grandparents had dwelled within and to which my uncle was left when they passed away.
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Not wishing to travel to seascale on the chance that I would catch this relative at home, I instead sent a simple note detailing who I was, some details about Uncle Marsh's books, and a description of the mirror.
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I asked if he knew any other details of our family's history that could help to shed some light on the strange occurrences that happened to Dr. Glass and detail the strange effects that the mirror had played out in my cellar that dreadful night. In response to my inquiry, a sparse letter arrived asking me to come visit him at my grandparents' home at my earliest convenience.
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I wasted little time in heeding the summons and boarded the train from the nearest station in East Wish toward Seascale the next day. At Eli's request, I had things of the water securely tucked away in a briefcase along with many of my uncle's notes as I could carry. The train's journey was pleasant enough, with changes over at Manchester Piccadilly and then Barrow-in-Furness.
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Despite the usual overcast weather of northwest England, the countryside was still an open beauty to behold, and I allowed myself a few hours of respite as I drank in the dark green essence of its untamed rolling hills and feral woodlands.
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Eventually, the scenery gave way to the various villages and towns that precipitated the train's arrival in seascale, and the greenery disappeared amidst the dull gray buildings and hotels of the seaside resort. Eli had no intention of meeting me at the station and had instead given me instructions to call upon him at any time of day at my grandparents' home.
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He had expressed a dislike of the daylight, and I imagined that he too must be a victim of the sinister, wasting disease that had afflicted my mother's parents in so gruesome a fashion.
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I had intended to make more of a day for myself in town whilst visiting Eli, but the autumn clouds and light rain do little to vitalize the tourist hunger, and after a short 30-minute stroll around and a lunch at one of the many seaside cafes, I instead decided to make my way straight to the house on Reeds Avenue and see exactly what light my distant cousin could shed upon the macabre conundrum that had made its way into my life.
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Yeah, his appearance was nothing less than outlandish. He would stumble along the cobbled streets of Barton Village every Saturday morning in his weekly sojourn to the local stores. His journey caused his neighbors great unease, and passerbys would cross the street in an effort to avoid exchanging even the simplest of pleasantries with the man.
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Reed's Avenue was a street crowded by various bed and breakfast establishments and other tall, narrow buildings, nothing more than a simple row of heartless Edwardian constructions that overlooked the crumbling coastline and rolling sea. I paused several times and overlooked the benches on my way, allowing myself to fantasize morbidly over my uncle's suicide and final moments.
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that plump, naked, flabby body making its way to the water's edge with as much momentum as its master could muster, and then a simple wade out to sea until his body finally gave into the cold grip of the sea and sank beneath the water.
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The wind around the coast was particularly ferocious, and it not only chilled me, but also carried upon it the seaside stenches of rotting crustaceans and slimy rocks, an aroma that caused my nighttime terrors to resurrect momentarily and persuade me to finally move along. towards the home of Eli Marsh.
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The house was sandwiched in between two beds and breakfasts, a tall three-story building painted in a washed-out white with a rusting iron fence crowning the outside. Every single window visible was either boarded up or concealed with thick curtains. It appeared that Eli was a man who valued his privacy.
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Some simple stone steps led up to the red-painted front door, the only source of color found on the entire building. This was somewhat offset by the peeling paint that revealed a dull, cracked brown beneath. I was about to knock. I noticed a piece of card on the ground, held in place by a bottle of milk that had most definitely soured.
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Short message, or more accurately, an order scribbled upon it in a poor but strangely familiar script. Holding up the card, I opened the front door, which was unlocked as per the note's description. Walked into the gloom of the narrow hallway.
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Yeah, yeah. Like the outside, the interior of the home was much taller than it was wide, and the staircase presented before me appeared to lean oddly at the top, giving the illusion that the house was fatigued and resting upon its neighboring establishment for support. It was difficult to see much in the dark of the hallway.
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I tried to turn on the lights with a few flicks of the nearby switch, but to no avail. A doorway to my right led into what must have been a downstairs living room, and I proceeded to investigate. bare wooden floor and not a scrap of furniture to be found.
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This coupled with thick sheets that had been crudely nailed into the window frame and were doing a superb job of keeping out the feeble light was all the living room had to offer. I quickly established that this was not a home, it was a mausoleum.
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I was about to enter another room leading off from the back of my current whereabouts, kitchen perhaps, when a series of loud, sharp knocks startled me and immediately made me look upwards at the source of their location. I will admit freely that this disturbed me greatly, and I wondered if I had perhaps left reality behind and stumbled onto the pages of the apocryphal ghost story.
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I was particularly disturbed by my uncle's visage as I unfortunately shared a few or more loathsome traits myself. Thankfully, however, these were less pronounced and shocking than those found on my uncle's grim face. My mother, too, shared what was known in Barton as the Marsh Look. although her deviant features, like mine, were softer and even less obvious than my own.
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Nail on the head with that one, yeah. I froze like a rabbit confronted by the sight of a predator and waited in silence to see what would happen next. Again the thumps pierced the silence I stood within, but this time I followed their source and stood at the bottom of the staircase, its thin decayed carpet doing a poor job of concealing the dry rot beneath.
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Whatever courage I summed up must have come from the realization that I was here to see a member of my own family, not some moaning spirit wrapped in chains. I smiled to myself in an effort to banish away the fear that had coiled its way into my heart. Surprisingly, stairs made little noise as I ascended them as quickly as possible, jumping two steps with my stride until I arrived at the landing.
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Several doors lay before me, but only one was open. From the room within, I could hear a series of low wheezes and finally a sickly wet cough. With more than a little reservation, I knocked and gently pushed the door inwards. What greeted me was similar to the downstairs. Bare floorboard, underfoot, and a covered-up window frame. Although, that was not all to be found.
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It was two chairs, large and crimson, covered in dust, had been placed in the center of the room. And sitting in one of them was a shadowy bundle of rags, worn clothing, and worn clothing, at second glance contained the body of a man. It gestured towards the vanquished chair opposite, and I reluctantly obeyed, placing my briefcase down and taking off my hat.
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I could see very little underneath what I presumed to be my cousin's clothing, Even his face was concealed with a scarf and a flat cap balanced ignobility upon his somewhat misshapen head. Words issued forth from my host's mouth, impossible liquid words that were punctuated with wet coughs and struggled breaths.
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There was movement beneath that scarf, but not the simple parting of lips, a series of movements from the neck area, the restless movement of something opening and closing at the rhythm of his speech. The only part of his body visible to me were the eyes, huge bulging eyes that stared at me unblinking and with focused malice.
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These bloodshot globes were not so much sat within his head as leaked out of their sockets, some unseen force keeping their jelly from outright streaming down his face. Despite their obvious vulgarity, these repulsive gelatinous spheres were at once familiar and alien to me. The marsh look was obviously something I knew all too well,
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but to see it in such an advanced state and up close horrified me to my core. It took me several moments to recognize the words that Eli was forcing out of his mouth. He spoke, bandaged hands outstretched before me like a begging child. I nodded and picked up my case, clicking it open and passing him things of the water along with my uncle's notes.
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He produces a pencil and started to write on the back pages of my uncle's diary. checking over the tome for some kind of unspoken reference and occasionally looking up at me with his flowing frog-spawn eyes. As he finished whatever notes he had written, he handed the books back to me and we both simultaneously jumped as another series of bangs issued forth from the room above ours.
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He reached down to the side of his feet and produced a broom and lifted himself with great effort off the chair. With the bare end, he then struck the ceiling in response. I half fancied this some kind of coded message, but the series of strikes did not appear random, some kind of perverse hidden code. When another set of bangs responded to this, the suspicion was confirmed.
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Eli, seemingly satisfied with this, waddled back to his seat and slung his body back down in a way that was also somehow sickeningly familiar to me. Leaning forward, far too close for my comfort, he pointed upwards with his hand and gave a simple explanation.
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She got away lightly indeed, with large, watery eyes, her only obvious heritage of the tainted marsh bloodline.
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I think I gave a nervous smile and a few words of sympathy, but I was far too transfixed upon the awful fish oil smell that secreted from his breath with every word. Perhaps noticing my discomfort, he leaned backwards awkwardly into his seat.
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I haven't seen it, but it's about like the whole family's werewolves, right?
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Okay, so first of all, you are an incredible voice actor. Oh, thanks, man. I'm glad you like that. That entire time I was like... I just went into a trance, and I was looking at the fish man under the rags.
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That was so stupidly good. To follow up on that, how is it that you have trouble reading a text message if you have to just read text, but if you adopt a character's voice, you can read the cult and pragmaticians of Cthulhu and the Granddaddy of Mars without a single break? I don't know.
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You were so into it that you couldn't fathom saying a word wrong. Okay. Yeah. Again, this story is awesome. I love this, but to clarify what was being said there. So their family comes from a line of people who worshiped Cthulhu, right?
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Others grew fearful of the power he had. Other Marshes who had little power themselves and wanted this for themselves. Not interested in paying service to Dagon or Hydra or another god. Grand Eddie Marsh used the names of the old ones without any priest. So I assume he was supposed to use a priest. They forced him out, chased him, and his Deep One bride out of his mouth.
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So why did they have him killed? Who knows? Maybe they thought old Dagon himself would have come to collect his due on the traitor, but it never happened. So that's where their family comes from. And then you've got some more to go, so I'll shut up. But yeah, okay. I'm sure I'm on the same page.
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He paused momentarily to catch his breath, and I watched as he struggled for several minutes before continuing his horrid monologue.
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So, so far he's saying that all member, or at least it's his mom's brother, right? So his mom has some traits and they're pronounced in himself, the author, but his uncle's the one that looks like a fish person.
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probably here okay so here's the thing we've got the um we have like his family from insmouth was a sorcerer that called upon these gods right and then one time he did the ritual one time his ancestors great grandfather whatever did the ritual wrong was forced to run away but he made bargains with the deep ones So it sounds like these bargains are that we will continue on your line.
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We'll continue on your people. So they begin to have children with the Deep Ones, make more kids for them. Then eventually those children grow up and then return to the sea. And it seems that's what's been happening to the family. That's what happened to his uncle. That's what happened to our narrator.
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So, yeah, his mom knows all of this. His mom is, you know, had a child with one of the Deep Ones.
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I think that's important to her. She also has to know that her son is half deep one, half like a. Well, exactly.
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Yeah. That's like, man, what a the way this is the kind of thing across Lovecraft, but it's very well done in the story. I'm forgetting that we're reading a creepy pasta that was written last year and not like a Lovecraft story. Right. I just, that's, this is the kind of flavor and shit I love.
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But like the, uh, the phrasing there is so good where it's like, uh, you'd be surprised how many around these parts carry the blood of the deep ones. How many make the change and swim to the depths of the anthill to dance and frolic with Dagon in the dark. What a way to describe walking to the bottom of the ocean, you know? Yeah.
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Do you think Sebastian Marsh had no kin other than you and your mother? Uh... So that would be – that would mean that – Sebastian had multiple kids is what I assume. Yeah, and he took – he had to take a deep one wife to have these kids. Yeah. Interesting. Hunter, you're on a beach. Fish girl comes up to you. Would you do it?
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Uncle Marsh lived alone, tucked away in a rotting abode that lurked and leaned queerly at odd angles at the back of the gunner's cloth, a feral grotto that skirted the cemetery at the south end of the village. It was a lonesome stretch of sepulcher woodland, home only to the witch elms, the creeping moss, and my gloomy uncle. Many an odd tale was attached to the gunner's cloth.
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And my bones in the ocean forever will be like. You're just going after that scaly, that scaly.
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I'm trying to see if those scales talk back. I am, dude. I'm playing.
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We're flipping switches, whatever they got going on. We're going to figure this out. We're going to crack the code. Start speaking Cthulhu by the end of it.
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Okay. Anyway. He said nothing more, and I waited for several minutes just in case fatigue had caused him to pause for breath. He did not say anything more on the matter. perhaps knowing that what he had added to the diary was all I truly needed to know.
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As I pondered the last few months of my life, a series of horrid realizations began to creep over me and I suddenly wished to be outside, away from the bundled menace before me. I managed to muster enough will to lift myself off the chair and pick up my belongings. He watched my every movement as I backed my way towards the door.
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As I slowly exited the room and began to descend the narrow staircase, one final sentence barked out at me from the obnoxious, fish-stinched room and chilled me.
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These last words were met with more wheezing and coughing, but also guttural and mocking laugh by the time I regained my senses. I was outside the house and underneath the gray clouds once more.
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I staggered back to the train station like a piece of debris caught in the breeze, and once the train was in full gallop back to Barton, I summed up the courage to look over the additions Eli had made to the diary. The instructions were clear, but also baffling. A ritual of sorts.
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I hoped, perhaps vainly, that following through on my cousin's scribblings would grant me some measure of peace and closure. Upon returning home, I started to make the necessary preparations for unearthing the truth about the marsh look.
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Gathering the notes and formula outlined in Eli's notes, I had no wish to visit the gunner's cloth, to walk beneath the witch elms as the silver light of the full moon bathed all around me in a chilling glow, but I didn't. I had no desire either to stumble or struggle through the mud and filth of the woodland on All Hallows' Eve in the direction of my uncle's home, but this too I did.
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I had made all the preparations as instructed to me by Eli Marsh, whose handwriting had been so oddly similar to my uncle's. The mirror, Dagon's mirror, had been removed from my cellar and once again brought back to the crumbling cottage, placed on the floor of the large room just as it had been on that dreadful night that still haunted my dreams.
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The significance of the moon and date had been clearly set down for me. Although I had the option of waiting for Alpurgis Night in April to work the old magic of Innsmouth, I simply could not wait that long for the truth. It had to be tonight.
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The moonlight was strong enough to illuminate my path to the cottage, but regardless, I brought along my torch and supplemented Luna's gaze with my own feeble cone of light. Through the blackness I shambled, making no effort to conceal my coming from the various woodland beasts who hunted during the hour of the wolf and beyond.
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Strange lights and raised voices were often heard from the depths of the woods on those days leading up to the nights of Hallow's Eve and Walpurgis. It was not unknown for local pets and occasionally even children to go missing, turn up dead on the mornings after those nights, when the frogs croaked loudly and the owls hooted their omens of warning.
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I half fancied all manner of specters and phantoms awaiting me in the woods, ghosts of little Maggie Hagen and Jamie Birtle, along with every other miserable soul claimed by the cloth formed before my vision, dancing in and out of my sight among the trees. Suddenly the cottage came into view. a leaning, rotting husk that looked more like a disused garden shed than an actual home.
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Surrounded by leaning witch helms and sitting in a circle of black, blasted earth, my uncle's home stood in defiance of the repugnant nature that desperately sought to reclaim the wooden structure. It was crowned with strange, diseased orange fungus and furry rugs of crawling moss.
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Did you like that? The story was written by Nick Lowe. It's hard to find any information about him because every time I search Nick Lowe, it just brings up stuff related to the songwriter. But it seems that the author, the story came out in 2024, so it's a little over a year old. He has this story. He has one called The House of Dead Gods, which sounds really cool.
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Insects gathered all around the cottage, feeding with indignity upon the fleshy pulp of the clinging mushrooms, occasionally pulling themselves away to dance frantically with the illuminated cone of my torch.
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The entrance to the sagging structure was not barred, and I entered into the main room of the cottage and was immediately greeted by the golden mirror laying flat upon the decomposed floorboards. Above, a crude skylight had been fitted into the flat roof.
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I say skylight, but it was nothing more than a trapdoor that had opened readily and eagerly once the single rusted iron bolt that held it in place had been relieved from duty. The ceiling door swung open, creaking like a walking corpse, and eventually came to a rest after swaying for a few seconds. A wash of moonlight came streaming through the opening and hit the mirror's surface.
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Rather than reflect off the glass, the light instead beamed directly into the mirror, drawn into it by some unseen force that then expanded the light, illuminating the whole cottage so much that my torch lay forgotten on the ground by my feet. I dropped to my knees in horrid awe and unconsciously crawled closer and closer to the mirror's glowing edge.
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Once more the terrible forms of Father Dagon, Mother Hydra, carved in gold and glaring menacingly in my direction, came into view and I hesitated slightly before finally resting my gaze upon the vision that had patiently been waiting for me.
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A vision hinted at by Dr. Glass and my cousin, a terrible legacy that even now must be swimming through my veins and transmuting my form with languid but irreversible taint. Had this been what Jamie Birtle had stumbled upon all those years ago?
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Had he seen the truth of Uncle Marsh's heritage and as a result suffered a mental shutdown caused by his feeble lizard brain rebuking the awful reality of the Marsh look? It is difficult for me to write down exactly what I saw in the mirror that night. For the sake of all humanity and for those who will come after, I will try. Now that is Lovecraft. That's right.
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I do not know if I can describe it, but I'm about to describe it.
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It's an incomprehensible horror. It was actually quite comprehensible. Here's a retail analysis, point by point, started at the beginning. By the time anyone finds and reads this, I will no longer be a resident of Barden. I'll be changed and at home among the briny depths and salt-soaked stones of the deepest gulfs of horror imaginable.
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For I kneeled perplexed, transfixed at the same... Man, is this just a Lovecraft story?
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Yeah, yeah. For I kneeled perplexed, transfixed at the scene playing out before me in the ocean grotto where the fish things frolicked and swayed amid cyclopean ruins.
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Yeah, I'm just... Not to immediately glaze this guy, but I love his riding style, at least so far. Like, it feels very fairytale.
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Dancing blindly and madly to a silent alien beat, the fungoid flabby creatures prostrated themselves before the eroded edifices of Father Dagon and Mother Hydra and to the colossal statue of Lord Cthulhu that towered over the whole sickly affair.
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Except the statue was not a statue, it was alive and moving, overseeing its baying subjects into their chaotic worship, a tentacular titan, pleased with the spectacle around it. They danced and copulated and tore each other to pieces as the assembly reached such hideous heights of frenzy that I was sure I would be sucked through the mirror and into the icy salt water of Yenthaly.
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But this disgusting pantomime being played out before my senses paled in horror compared to the realization that one of the creatures possessed a visage so familiar to me that I mercifully passed out as my mind recalled its likeness. for the newest addition to the throng of the fish things were the face of my uncle Sebastian Marsh.
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He had sought the embrace of the Irish Sea, not in order to end his life, but instead to take his place among the Deep Ones, as all men who bear the Marsh name must one day do.
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I mean, if someone does not like this, I don't want to talk to them.
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That was so fun. I love it. Like, yeah, sure. It's not like there were super deep character arcs and there wasn't like a ton of like highs and lows and stuff, but Lovecraft's original stuff isn't that way. It's about the theme. It's about the concept. What I love about Lovecraft so much is,
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Most of his horror comes from the insurmountableness of it, that there is an entity that we can't even hope to understand, much less be, right? And this entire story, Dagon's Mirror, is about a guy discovering that one day he will become this monster and go to – he is all – from the day he was born, he was set to walk into the ocean and become a part of this ritual of darkness, right?
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And he sees it before it happens, and he is powerless to stop it. That is where the horror of it comes from. And it's everything that is pushing him in that direction that proves fighting against is fruitless. That's where a lot of Lovecraft's horror comes from. And I think this story did a great job encapsulating that.
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Okay. So it's all tied into each other's story. So that we all have to read those someday. Yeah. Well, we need to read those. I think if you all like this at all, I think we need to read those. I love that story. It was awesome. It caught the vibe of Lovecraft so well for me. And I love that kind of horror. And I think it's, it's so fun. It's so well done. It's like, it's like a modern mythology.
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It feels very genuine. It feels like it's almost, you know, like a timepiece. Like there is a story here we don't know about yet, but the author's determined to let us know it. And that's also kind of the joke with Lovecraft, right? That he'll say something is unexplainable or what's the one he says all the time? Incomprehensible. And then he will comprehend it for seven pages straight.
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Well, that's really like the early... Yeah, gothic, exactly. That's really like the...
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earliest versions of gothic or like uh you know macabre literature it was taking like the tones and like themes of fairy tales and then making them morbid uh and that's what like lovecraft did for a large part but then he gives it this bigger mythos and lore and stuff and the old ones and it's it's like such a it's i mean it is what cosmic horror is right that's where it comes from yeah and i mean even looking at edgar on poe which lovecraft was heavily inspired by a grandpa and lovecraft
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I was just so, no, no, I mean, I was, I was, I was hooked into, I was, I was clocked in for that one. Yeah, that was great. Once we got going on and it really got going, that was great. I loved it.
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And if you find out that you have to be a fish person at the bottom of the ocean with Cthulhu forever, that sucks. But Hey, if you see a girl wash up on the beach, who's a fish person here. Okay. Bye.
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Yeah, especially like at the cemetery, at the gloomy witch elms on the edge of town.
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Mm-hmm. Yeah. I remember when I was very young, my mother issued me a warning to never enter the Gunner's Cloth, despite my uncle living there. And I often wondered just what witchcraft was being played out in secret underneath the skeletal trees. These warnings were ubiquitous among all Barton children, and with good reason.
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Before I was born, a local child had been found dead in the woods, half submerged in the black slop that had once been a stream passing through the cloth. Little was done about the matter. It was assumed that the child had fallen into the muck and drowned, and every Barton resident was quick to attribute a more sinister conclusion to the life of little Maggie Hagen.
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Despite the macabre reputation, or perhaps because of it, the whole area was the haunting ground of young boys during the summer months, and sadly, and with great embarrassment, my uncle was seen as something of a local boogeyman by my peers. As a result, he suffered relentless taunting at the hands of Barton's children.
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There was precious little else to do in the village during the school summer break, and the taunting of my uncle became something of a local sport.
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Boys approved their mettle by hurling rocks at the windows of the gunner's cloth cottage where my uncle resided, or knocking on his door only to flee as the frog-faced resident cautiously answered their call before sinking back into the dark of his home. God, how sad.
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jesus it's depressing i'm like getting carried away with the flowery language but at the same time it's like a guy looks ugly and they're like idiot throwing rocks at his window and stuff i mean but very true to uh childlike harassment or whatever yeah freak and they run off what does every kid do when they see a guy with a disability at the grocery store point and laugh
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And another one called The Shambler in the Attic, which also sounds cool.
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Why is it like that? Mom, why does he look like that? Mom, what's wrong with him? Mom, why doesn't he have... Why don't him do his other arm?
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Well, he said village. So village makes it sound older than that.
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Yeah, but he also said high school. So, right, he did say high school.
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No, no, he just said young boys. Oh, okay. He just said young boys, yeah. But he says, okay, that's what he says. He says summer break. So it has to be a time period where schools have a summer break and also a village, so... It feels almost anachronistic, right? It's almost like you get modern details mixed in with like old Grimm's fairy tale stuff.
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No, no, no. Like it's like a limp kind of like I'm a shamble. Yeah, like a slow, like you can't really walk right, but you're trying to like work over to something. Yeah. So it's like dragging itself around the attic. A guy with gout in the attic. Pretty much. So he has these three stories, and they're all recent. Like the oldest one, The House of Dead Gods, is from November of 2023.
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Another movie that does a great job of that is The Substance. Oh, yeah, dude, definitely. Because everything's 70s, everything's 60s, like all the cars, the furniture, the store. But then they pull out an iPhone.
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You know, it's like the best example of that, the original Alien. Oh, yeah. Like the cockpit in there of just all the dials and buttons. Yeah, yeah. Give me dials and buttons, dude. Give me those buttons. I want to slam my hand into them in here.
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I love pressing buttons. Light up the button. Let me press it. I love to touch stuff all the time, whatever it is. Oh, absolutely. Being the nephew of Mad Marsh meant that by proxy, I too suffered from the attentions of my uncle's tormentors and I tried desperately to make myself invisible in and out of school.
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I succeeded in this endeavor to such a level that I had successfully alienated myself from everyone outside of my family in just a few short years. One year, on Halloween, the onslaught of abuse directed towards my uncle reached such feverish heights that it culminated in a planned mass egging of his home. Only one boy in town possessed enough bravado to see this task to conclusion, however.
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Jamie Birtle. Man, this does feel like such a fairy tale we're reading about. That's great. It was Jamie alone who entered the gunner's cloth on that dreadful night, chest puffed out and a box of rotten eggs held confidently in his hands. The boy finally returned, many hours later, to the circle of children crowning the edge of that necromantic woodland.
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Waiting in anticipation for their champion, he was forever and irreversibly changed. Transmuted, transformed, and left naught but a shell of what was once a lively child, he staggered out of the woodlands a dumb and silent specter. Poor Jamie Birtle, the terror of all children younger than himself, said nothing about what he had seen in the dark that night.
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Nor would he ever speak a single syllable again his whole miserable life.
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Eventually, the glassy-eyed mute was taken away from his parents and moved to Byron House, home for the mentally disadvantaged. Fuck.
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There he stayed for many years, banging his head against the wall of his cell to a silent, alien rhythm until fate gave him the opportunity to escape his confines and leap to his death, exactly 13 years since he first lurched out of the shadows of the Witch Elm trees. I love all that, dude. That's so fun. This is a ton of fun. I'm bought in already. So he goes out there and he comes back.
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Let me ask you this. I see that, you know, the price of eggs, we kind of attribute it to racism more. Trump gives people a reason, allows them to be racist and vote that way. But let's say for the purposes of this argument, you're right. It was inflation. So inflation is going up, up, up. eggs prices going through the roof, all of these tariffs coming in.
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And I see now they're spinning it on Fox News that, well, it's a national security issue. So if you have to pay more for eggs, it's a national security issue. So at what point Do these people, do they have to feel it in their pocketbooks? Or do you think the fact that they're not able to buy it, will that be the turning point?
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Putin's First State of the Union With Analysis from Rep. Boyle
Or are they so dug in, like, say, for example, in Pennsylvania, that they would rather pay more for these eggs, thinking it's a national security issue, to stay with the Republican MAGA mantra?
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Putin's First State of the Union With Analysis from Rep. Boyle
Okay, one question. This is just kind of a gossipy because I'm petty. So when we had Eric Swalwell on, he said the difference in people on the floor and off the floor. So you see all this alignment with Russia from Trump and Vance and the attack on Zelensky.
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Putin's First State of the Union With Analysis from Rep. Boyle
So are your colleagues that are rah-rah pro-Trump in front of the camera, surely, please tell me they have a little bit of pause about what's going on behind the scenes.
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Putin's First State of the Union With Analysis from Rep. Boyle
My question is about Elon Musk because he scares me more than Trump because he seems more craven and organized because I don't think Trump's really that interested in governing. But with the continuing resolution slash budget coming up, is there a way that you as Democrats can say, okay, we want to bring Elon Musk in. We want to have absolute transparency about what he's doing.
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Putin's First State of the Union With Analysis from Rep. Boyle
We want to ask him about the investigations that are ongoing, about the contracts that he has awarded himself. And only will we help vote regarding the budget if Elon Musk comes in and is held to account. Is that a bargaining chip that you could have?
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WTF?! Trump/Elon's DOJ is TARGETING Dem. Congressman
What my biggest concern is right now, I mean, there are several. I mean, J.D. Vance spouting Putin talking points on the world stage, that's a big one. But here at home, I am so concerned that Elon Musk is single-handedly just demolishing agencies, cutting... waste, which is really not waste, with zero transparency.
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WTF?! Trump/Elon's DOJ is TARGETING Dem. Congressman
The numbers he has given us that he's cut all of this money have been immediately found to be fabricated. There's zero transparency. There seems to be no accountability. Where do we move from here on getting transparency from this person that is just dismantling the U.S. government?
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WTF?! Trump/Elon's DOJ is TARGETING Dem. Congressman
Angie, one question that I have, do you envision a situation where I know that you have asked for Elon Musk to come before the oversight committee and immediately the Republicans had a meltdown because they don't want transparency or accountability.
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WTF?! Trump/Elon's DOJ is TARGETING Dem. Congressman
What is your level of confidence that you can get Elon Musk and or some of his Doge associates, AKA big balls, in to discuss what they are doing to our institutions?
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MAGA Reps FACEPLANT at Town Halls
What I think is interesting is his answers. They were pathetic. I mean, he gave them absolutely nothing to make them want to vote for him or to make them think that he represents them as constituents versus Donald Trump as the monarch or Elon Musk as the real president. I mean, this guy needs a lesson here. in Politics 101, at least on how to bullshit these people better, because it was pathetic.
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MAGA Reps FACEPLANT at Town Halls
These Congress people are going to have to decide, are they going to represent their constituents? and be reelected or are they going to support Trump and risk their constituents not voting for them? Because I think this makes it pretty clear and you see it all over YouTube and the internet at large, MAGA people who are three-time Trumpers, they're furious.
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MAGA Reps FACEPLANT at Town Halls
They're furious about the way their jobs are being cut. the way all of these things are being handled, inflation not going down. So these people at some point are gonna have to make a choice. Are you loyal to your constituents? Are you loyal to Donald Trump?
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MAGA Reps FACEPLANT at Town Halls
And just one quick thing, I forget about that disastrous press conference with Elon Musk and his kid and you see it there and you see how people in middle America react to it. And you realize we're all feeling the same way. Why is this man in charge? And the president is sitting slumped over the resolute desk.
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MAGA Reps FACEPLANT at Town Halls
Absolutely. Well, he lies about everything. But what's interesting is, like in Russia, the media is all rah-rah Putin because it's propaganda, because that's fascism. You tell people lies so that they can't think for themselves. He wants MSNBC gone because he wants Fox News, his own propaganda network, to tell people only what he wants to tell them. I mean, it's fascism, plain and simple.
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MAGA Reps FACEPLANT at Town Halls
This guy is a fascist. Mark Milley said it. We all know it. We've seen his actions. But It is interesting to me that he says, I'd like to go up against Rachel Maddow. You know what? I'd like that too. Do it. I would like you to debate Rachel Maddow. Go on that show. She would eat him for breakfast because as we've said before, he's not intellectually gifted. She is. He is not an orator. She is.
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MAGA Reps FACEPLANT at Town Halls
And there's a question about his mental capacity to begin with before you even get into how insecure he is and how you can get him off on a rabbit trail anytime you want. But yeah, he is. If we have learned nothing in the past month, we have learned that he is true to one thing. A, his narcissism and insecurity. And the overarching is fascism.
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Russia is Celebrating Trump's Destruction of the US
... met Zelensky. In Londen was een flash-summit georganiseerd met leiders, inclusief die van Canada, Frankrijk, Duitsland, Italië, de hoofdman van NATO en de Britse voorzitter, die nieuwe negotiaties veroordeelde door Griekenland en Frankrijk, die potentieel de lead voor vrede nemen, uit de handen van president Trump. All right. I think we've seen enough. What do you think?
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DEADBEAT Dad Takes Over the Government and Slings Slurs at Astronauts
Yeah, that's terrifying. What's interesting about the Elon Musk situation is, I was reading an article last night that there is emergency medicine and emergency food sitting in warehouses that will not be distributed because of Elon Musk's actions. So people... And it's rotting. It's going to be gone. So he would rather have people without their medication and no food.
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DEADBEAT Dad Takes Over the Government and Slings Slurs at Astronauts
He would rather the food rot, the medication expire. Talk about cruelty. He and Donald Trump are the very cruelest. One thing, another thing about Elon Musk that I think is cruel is, you know, we had a little desktop baby mama drama over the weekend with Elon Musk. And now we have more baby mama drama. who is the mother of little X, is that right? And then several others.
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DEADBEAT Dad Takes Over the Government and Slings Slurs at Astronauts
But she says, please respond about our child's medical needs. I'm sorry to do this publicly, but it is no longer acceptable to ignore the situation. This requires immediate attention. If you don't want to talk to me, can you please designate or hire someone who can so that we can move forward on solving this? This is urgent, Elon. Guess what the response was?
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DEADBEAT Dad Takes Over the Government and Slings Slurs at Astronauts
Right. And I read that he wants everybody in the federal government to get drug tested within 30 days. And I'm like, he should be the first one drug tested. He is the one that sits around and tells people he takes ketamine all the time. Where's his drug test? But he doesn't.
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DEADBEAT Dad Takes Over the Government and Slings Slurs at Astronauts
He will never be drug tested, nor will anybody try to hold any accountability over him because Donald Trump is allowing him to be the president. So on to more embarrassing things that our president does. That's President Musk. So he was lying, as per usual, on Fox News about how Biden's political reasons kept him from bringing home the astronauts in space. And so he says that.
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DEADBEAT Dad Takes Over the Government and Slings Slurs at Astronauts
And in response, the commander of the International Space Station says lies. What a lie in response to Elon Musk. And you know what Elon Musk does? He calls him the R word. just blatantly calls him the R word. He's name calling. He's ignoring his children. He's name calling. He's tripping on ketamine.
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DEADBEAT Dad Takes Over the Government and Slings Slurs at Astronauts
He's wearing sunglasses inside and he's running around with a train saw, calling people names that know more about what's going on than he does.
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DEADBEAT Dad Takes Over the Government and Slings Slurs at Astronauts
And he is running around with a chainsaw, acting like he's chopping trees down. He is a net.
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DEADBEAT Dad Takes Over the Government and Slings Slurs at Astronauts
Well, they just have no conviction to anybody but their dear Fuhrer. Okay, one thing I wanted to bring up. So I'm very concerned that Elon Musk is going in and taking things off Twitter. And now he is going to stop or change the algorithm for community notes because he lies all the time and community notes calls him out. This is his tweet.
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DEADBEAT Dad Takes Over the Government and Slings Slurs at Astronauts
As always, Elon Musk, who is running our country, no doubt, is beyond out of control and seems to be extremely unwell. Let me show you this clip. That is the man running our government. That is the man that has gone in and decimated federal agencies. That is the man that has 13 children. That is the man that runs around with Donald Trump on a leash.
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DEADBEAT Dad Takes Over the Government and Slings Slurs at Astronauts
Unfortunately, community is increasingly being gamed by governments and legacy media working to fix this. So I think it's time to say goodbye to community notes. Goodbye to fact checking. And hello to Elon Musk running Twitter like he does the government, like he does his family. And it's a big steaming pile of dog shit.
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DEADBEAT Dad Takes Over the Government and Slings Slurs at Astronauts
Yeah, I was going to say, Elon Musk and Donald Trump have this big thing where they say, we're going to run the government like a business. For the record, Donald Trump in his businesses has bankrupted six companies. He's filed bankruptcy six times. He's bankrupted casinos, which is impossible. And Elon Musk has lost 70% of the value of Twitter since he owned it.
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DEADBEAT Dad Takes Over the Government and Slings Slurs at Astronauts
So please do not tell me about their business prowess. Additionally, Tesla, 75% of the sales are down in California, in China. I mean, Europe. These people have no business running a business, much less the government. So that's what I'm going to leave you with. Elon Musk and Donald Trump suck.
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Yep.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
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And then I also had Tyler Warren has small hands and wing size, which I still would bet on him being a very good player, but loser. How small? His hands? I think it was like eight and three-fourths. Yeah, it's pretty small. Pretty small. And his wing size, shockingly small. I have a winner. Again, I think I would bet on Tyler Warren being a good pro.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Also winner, Mason Taylor, because he ran the line drill where you catch it, catch it, run straight across the field. And it was actually beautiful to watch because his steps never deviated from the line. It was a perfect, perfect drill. So winner.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Well, I'd fall on my face. Yeah. We already know that. Okay. Anything else from the NFL? I don't think so. I think that was pretty much it from the weekend. We have free agency starting soon. I think the franchise tag deadline is Tuesday. So we're going to find out what the Bengals are going to actually do. And then legal tampering starts. Then legal tampering starts.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
All right. National Sports Podcast. Should we do a little? Let's do it. This is March. Yeah, this is March. You made it. Well, my first National Sports Podcast note was Ovi. Ovi scored another goal.
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I believe so.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Now we're just looking at a huge tuna. Max, look up hashtag tuna. This will definitely work.
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Oh, there it is.
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Tuna.
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Yeah, big tuna. Love that.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Tuna. Okay, yeah, this is March, though. It is March. Big time. Had a great college basketball weekend. Hank, at what point, let's just get this out of the way, at what point are you going to start fading? I have not lost in March yet, just so everyone knows. I'm 8-0 in bets. I assumed Hank faded me when I got to like 5 or 6-0. When are you going to do it? Is it going to be Monday?
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Is it going to be tonight? It might be. It's going to be tonight. It might be. Okay. All right. I know you're so in my head about it that I know that when you do actually fade me, that will be when I lose.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
I did feel very stupid explaining to my wife that I was like, I might not lose a bet in March. And she looked at me like, that's the dumbest thing you've ever said. I've said much dumber. But as of right now, I have not lost in March. So what if I don't lose in March?
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
All right, so college basketball Saturday was awesome. Tennessee. That was such a good game. Buzzer beater. Nate Oates, all-time choke job. Just two timeouts, not calling a timeout when your team is getting a five-second call. Taking his bigs out of the lineup on the free throw. Just choking it. Choking it. He lost that game more than Tennessee won it? He said it after.
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He's like, I was not good in the last 30 seconds of that game.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
I think that's just also what old people do. He's just wasting away right now. Old people just get skinny and they just waste away. So that could be... It could be bad. We also had... No, he looks like normal Rick Barnes.
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He looks old. We also had Rick Pitino, white suit, finally came back. They actually struggled a little bit, but they have clinched. They won the Big East. Congrats to Coach Pitino. The white suit looked awesome. They did a whiteout at the Garden. Uh... Auburn is just really fucking good.
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That's that was my big they went into Kentucky and they whooped the shit out of Kentucky, a game that Cal would have lost. They feel.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Yeah. Well, it's Auburn and Duke. I keep trying to figure out. I keep trying to figure out who else could win, and it's going to be Auburn and Duke.
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Houston and Bama. Oh, you're going to be a Bama guy? You're going to be a Nate Oates guy?
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Also, Kansas is very sad. Kansas lost to Texas Tech, who is a very good team. But then they had a controversy after a Kansas player posted. It was some fucked up things the fans were sending him. And then Bill Self had to release a statement basically saying, we're trying our best. It just doesn't feel good for Kansas right now.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
which which also speaks to how good Kansas is historically because they are still a tournament team they're probably a five seed maybe a six and uh they have 11 losses but it's still it's time in in in Lawrence where they're releasing statements yeah uh and saying like this is really bad so right now they're saying the last four in Oklahoma Indiana Ohio State Texas
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
I'll say this pre-selection Sunday. We don't know how the conference tournaments are going to go. Texas does not deserve to be in. They're bad. If Drake gets kept out instead of Texas, if Drake doesn't win their conference, I'll be very upset. The bubble is... Like, some of these teams are just bad teams that, because some of the smaller teams haven't had great seasons, I'll be very upset.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
So I'm going to say right now, Drake deserves to be in no matter what. Absolutely deserves to be in no matter what. Yeah, Texas got smoked by Georgia. And, like, that was a game they needed. All right, so, yeah, they have Drake as a 12 seed right now. What do they have Wisconsin at? Two or three? Three. Yeah, the Michigan State game was tough. Drake, Oregon. Michigan State's really good.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
First round. um i also let's see oh shout out uh omaha the team i don't know if you guys have seen but they've been doing these wrestling themes all throughout the season and it's very cool like just small time basketball uh getting some energy they they did a what this what this has a lenardi oh the
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
He's probably napping. He doesn't like to do his job. He only has one job. Can you find the Omaha video, though? They won the conference, and it was very funny because they had the chancellor pop out of a garbage can with the belt on. Yeah. And it was just a very funny visual because it's like a smaller Asian woman is the chancellor and she just pops out of a garbage can for them.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
And they're what I love about college basketball, like these these teams in the smaller conferences going on these awesome runs. They still obviously got to win to get in, but it's very fun. No, that's not it.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Again, there were some consequential games. Michigan losing to Illinois. Look at this.
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I love this. That's awesome. Omaha Chancellor popping out.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
No offense, Texas. I've watched Texas play. The SEC is so deep that, you know, what does Texas have? Five conference wins or something? So that's the problem is that we're getting to 12, 13, 14 teams in the SEC. It's like, all right, we got to stop some point. Drake deserves, and again, Drake could just be in because they could win their tournament.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
But that will piss me off if we have some of these teams that were really bad, but they were in a good conference. I don't need that.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Xavier should be in. Xavier's been playing hot. It will all work out. It will all work out. Yeah, look, they have Xavier in as a first four. Nova, next four out. I need Max to get all the way back in on Nova. I really need it. They got the talent. By the way, congratulations, PFT, on winning the Sun Belt.
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Insane.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Yeah, it's going to be an awesome tournament. Also, congrats to South Alabama, Arkansas State, and Troy for winning the Sun Belt. It was funny watching all four teams. 30% of the league won.
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Well, I mean, four is a very funny visual. It is.
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When? When we went to the Wisconsin game. I got caught up. Yeah, what are you talking about? I got caught up in Bucky Fever. You were right next to me doing the same thing. I know. I just thought it was funny. 30% is very funny. It was watching all of them post it. It's like, that's pretty cool.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Do it. I'm pretty confident in their first round this year. They're not like last year where A.J. Stewart decided to.
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Yeah, right, right, right.
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But, yeah, I have zero happiness in my life. There's the bracket right there.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
It is insane. And it's going to be great because we already started. I think there was a conference tournament game tonight. We've already started conference tournament week. But I need Max back in. We need to get Max back in. Yeah. All the way back in. The last thing I had for the National Sports Podcast, do we... Can anyone make sense of the NBA debate?
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
LeBron faces this league, future faces this league. Can anyone make sense of what's going on other than I don't understand? Here's what I don't understand. Anthony Edwards said he didn't want to be the face of this league. Anthony Edwards doesn't get to decide that. No. We get to decide that. Well, not only that, but when has there ever been a face of a league that didn't win? Right.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Winning matters. You have to win a championship to be considered a face of this league. Agreed. Obviously, if you win, that doesn't automatically mean you're the face of the league. Jokic could be the face of the league, but he doesn't like the media. You could make the argument Tim Duncan won a lot. He was never the face of the league.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
I don't understand how Anthony Edwards saying I don't want to be the face of the league. Like, dude, no one said you were. You haven't won anything yet. Yeah.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Well, it's the old guys. Yeah. Is LeBron the face of the league? It's LeBron and his stuff.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
He's playing the video right now. Do you want to talk about that at all, Hank? What happened for the listeners that don't know?
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Wait, it says right here they were up 25-3.
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Also, Joe Embiid's out for the year.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
I really need the Bulls not to make the play-in game.
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Matthew Stafford is staying in Los Angeles with the Rams today. Ski trip didn't work out for Tom Brady. Ski trip did not work out. Well, it did work out for the rest of us because we got a reporter fight out of it. But yes, Matthew Stafford staying with the Rams, which I always thought made the most sense because...
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
It's become a big story because LeBron, I don't understand. And then LeBron said the media, you wouldn't want to be the face of the league because the media is so mean. I don't think the media is that mean to NBA players. I think Twitter is, like the faceless Twitter trolls are. But the media, yeah, Shaq and Chuck, they do a show that busts on people. But I actually think the NFL has way more...
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
of a media microscope on their players.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
It's just, it's very weird to me because LeBron and, and it like talking about respecting the game and stuff. And, and listen, I think JJ Reddick's doing a great job. He's a friend of the program. JJ Reddick also did say that the, you know, in the fifties and sixties, there were plumbers.
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So, I mean, he was part of that media at one point, but he also respects... I know he did a show that he was respecting the game a lot and how skilled these guys are. LeBron gets endless praise. I don't understand why he is pretending like he's getting torn down all the time. I mean, he does get shit on. He gets shit on, but it's not like... Again, it's by idiots like me and idiots online.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
We don't mean anything. So, yeah, I think trolls are the face of the NBA right now. Yeah, he's basically saying the trolls run the show. They run the league, yeah.
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It's crazy to me. I don't get it. The face of this league, again, you don't get to decide who's the face of this league. It's going to be whoever is a young dynamic player who wins a title. And Jason Tatum, you think he's got the aura?
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
It's also just such a funny thing to say, like, who's the face of this league? He might be the shoulders of this league. He does have six shoulders.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
The Rams were, you could make the argument, they played the Eagles the toughest in the playoffs. They almost won that game in the first quarter. And they had a really bad start to the season, but then they played great down the stretch. It feels like they still have a window with Matthew Stafford. I think it's a two-year deal.
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He wasn't even on Team USA. Can you play the clip? This discussion about face of this league has been happening pretty much nonstop for five days now, and all I can think about is Scotty Barnes, future face of this league.
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No one talks about this video.
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Let's find it. It's the Raptors head coach, Coach Darko, talking about Scottie Barnes' future face in this league. But yeah, LeBron, I don't get it. LeBron's also done active campaigns like GOAT campaigns. He's actively trying to get people to be like, hey, you're the GOAT.
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So to then turn it around and say the media is the problem is weird. That's why he's going to start his own league. Yeah. Yeah. He's just listening to the trolls too much.
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We made that part up.
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Oh, Max.
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Yeah, I don't. NBA players are upset. And then, yeah, LeBron went on with SVP.
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Yeah, last week.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah. Okay, let's see who's back. Then we have Nick Sirianni. Is anything happening in the Oscars that we care about at all? Uh, no. Okay. Jerry O'Connell's there. That was our Oscars recap. Good Oscars recap. Jerry O'Connell looks hot.
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I saw A Complete Unknown. I saw Concave, and I saw Moana 2. I don't think I saw any of them. And I think there was a new Paw Patrol movie. Yeah. I liked Conclave. I liked A Complete Unknown.
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What's that?
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What's that? What is that?
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About what?
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Yeah, I had it as well.
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Pretty fucked up to do the week that Gene Hackman died.
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That's a good point. Because he was a human being and his wife. And he just decided that, oh, this is the week I'm going to do it. Gene Hackman just died.
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No, he's doing a retirement tour. And he turned heel on his retirement tour. Correct. So he said that he would never, ever turn heel. There was many chances for him to turn heel, and then in his retirement tour going up to WrestleMania, he has gone heel pretty crazy. How did he go heel?
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And why would you, if you're Matthew Stafford, it never made sense, want to go to the Giants? No offense to the Giants, but the Giants aren't going to win a Super Bowl. The Rams could conceivably, in the next two years, compete for a Super Bowl. It would be crazy to leave that situation. So, yeah, he's set. And now it's a question of where Aaron Rodgers will go.
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Yeah, Rock said, hey, do it. Rock's also heel right now. It's awesome. I mean, I don't watch wrestling anymore, but I think about moments when I was a kid watching wrestling. When a good guy does turn heel, it is electric. So is he going to change out the jorts for leather pants? I don't know.
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Yeah, it's pretty cool. It was a shocking moment, and it makes WrestleMania great. And Triple H is running, basically, WWE now, and it seems like he's doing a good job.
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Yeah. And actually, I know people were saying, like, It's an all-time moment, and Travis Scott was there, which is confusing. I think it actually is kind of funny because they were focused on Travis Scott being there, saying this makes no sense, and then you have the heel turn, which is shocking, so it kind of elevated the shock factor of it.
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No, he's Team Cancer. Okay. Yeah. It's got to be. I mean, I would like to interview him again and just ask the same questions and see if he remembers. But yeah, Gene Hackman, upstaged by John Cena turning heel. R.I.P. R.I.P. Gene Hackman. Awesome. Awesome actor. Hoosiers. Best. Crimson Tide.
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Yeah, that changed everything.
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Yeah.
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Royal Tenenbaums. Yeah, yeah.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Great.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Yeah. So grumpy. Okay. I had John Cena as well. I guess I'll pivot to my second one. Daylight Savings is back this Saturday. Finally. Getting the later. What is it?
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Yeah. So we're finally going to have a little more light out at night. Golf time. Ready to go. Wait, it actually is? Oh, fuck. Sunday, March 9th. Shit.
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Damn it. Although... I was joking. I thought it was still another two weeks.
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Shit. I swear to God, I thought that we had until like the second or third week of March and I was doing this... That might be it. Might be over. The joke might be over. I fucked up. What? This actually might be the last time.
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Yeah, it's just something that people like to say.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
We'd actually lose... Yeah, we'd lose. And people... I always was like, let's not do it because I don't want it to go get dark at 4.30. And someone said once, well, what about kids going to school in pitch black? And I was like, good point. That's a fair point. Yeah. Because if we didn't do it, it would stay light out till 5.30 or 6 o'clock, but the sun wouldn't rise till like 8 a.m.
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Which would kind of be fucked up if you had kids having to go to school in pitch black and like walking on the streets, like getting on buses and stuff.
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Yeah. Run it back. Get those solar panels on your house in New Jersey. Finally, get them fully installed.
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Because I really did think that it was not even close. I thought it was halfway through March. That's huge. That's so huge. What are you doing? You just looking at the weather, Max? I mean, I do it all the time. How are we looking?
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But you know what? The sun was nice this weekend. What do we got next Tuesday? This is good. Our weather report. Oh, I'm seeing 40s and 50s. We can deal with 40. Anything in the 40s is fine. 40s feel tropical right now.
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Then it's on. Then it's fucking on. Wait, is that? Chalamet lost best actor. 63 on March 11th. Put your circle it.
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Oh. When St. Patty's Day is.
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Yeah, and then it feels like the Raiders might be in the Sam Darnold market from what everyone is saying.
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Yeah, I miss getting fucked up on St. Patrick's Day. Should I do it?
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Yeah.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Send the kids away. I just leave food out for him. Yeah. It's fine. Put a timer. One of those cat food distributors. We've got an issue in my house right now. There's an obsession with Max's butt. The Katz family loves Max's butt.
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It was because of the combine on Thursday, which I fell, and then I came home, and little kids just love any type of injury, and they just asked me a thousand questions about my knee, and then to get them distracted, I was like, look, here's my buddy Max. His butt was hanging out, and now all they... My daughter literally was asking two days later, like, can I see Max's butt?
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They're obsessed with his butt. It'll come out again soon. Yeah. Always does. Max is just a hit in my house. There's been a lot. I've sent him the videos. There's just been a lot of discussion about Max's butt. I need to see Max's butt.
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Can I see Max's butt? I want to see Max's butt. It's something about my genetics. Just got to see Max's butt.
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All right. Let's do our interviews. We got Nick Sirianni, Diana Rossini, and then we'll finish off with lottery balls.
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Yeah. And Kirk Cousins is going to be a backup. But this was the big, because if Stafford had gone somewhere else, it would obviously had a chain reaction down the line.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is Super Bowl champion head coach Nick Sirianni from the Philadelphia Eagles. Does that sound good? Has that gotten old yet?
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
My first question, actually, and you can be honest with us, I think it's bullshit that you have to go back to work only three weeks after winning the Super Bowl. I was thinking about it. You're an indie right now. You're doing work. Was there a part of you like – Me personally, if I won a Super Bowl, I'd fuck off forever. I wouldn't get that hunger back. But how is it like it's it's bang bang.
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The NFL schedule doesn't stop.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
OK, so so be honest with this one, too. At what point during the Super Bowl were you like, we got this? It's over because I know the coach speak. You can be like it's you know, you got to play 60 minutes. You never know. It's Patrick Mahomes. But I mean, come on. Halfway through the third quarter, you like this is it's over.
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That was very nice of you, but you beat their fucking ass. You did. It was an ass kicking. It was an ass kicking.
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Yeah.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Did you see the Dax cap hit, I believe? They'll probably restructure it and kick the can down the road, but I think I saw Florio report that Dax... Cap hit this year is $90 million. Dak Prescott's cap number for 2025 is set to be nearly $90 million. A restructuring could drop it as low as $51 million.
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Can I tell you when I think you won the Super Bowl? When I was like, I think this is over? When you didn't cry during the national anthem. Was there any part of you that was like, this time, don't cry? Because that was also when you lost the Super Bowl in 2022. It was like, dude, you can't cry during the National Anthem. You've got to save the tears for winning the Super Bowl.
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Was there a part of you in game prep where you're like, okay, I know they're going to sing this song. Don't cry.
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Yeah. Um, is that, is you have three kids, right? Three. Which one is your favorite human shield?
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And it would have been bad because obviously after – it was at the Cleveland game where you brought your kids to the podium. That's where you're going with this. Great move, by the way. I tip my hat to you. I have three kids. I know that – listen, I love my kids, but really their purpose is if I ever get into trouble, I'm just going to bring them around and be like, look at my three kids.
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They'll keep kicking the can until they inevitably take a massive cap hit after he's no longer on the team. $90 million. I don't understand the cap.
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Yeah.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Yeah. It's also very funny because it's like, how do you stop the tush push? Like, don't let the Eagles get to fourth and two. There's three other downs. Stop them.
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We've been putting a lot of respect on your name even before the Super Bowl because it is – like when you take a step back, I know Philly's a tough place to coach sometimes, but you guys – I think you have the highest winning percentage of any active head coach right now. Four years in the playoffs, two NFC Championship games, Super Bowl, and you've done it all coaching Italian. You're Italian.
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Is that hard where like sometimes your anger, like you want to bang on a pot and pan or like – Just scream and, like, that's got to be difficult. You're doing it all under the influence of Italian.
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Yeah. That's emotion, right?
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Do you guys – do you think you have too many Italians? You have a lot of Italians.
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I don't know. It just gets combustible.
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No, no.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Yeah, I would say if the team suffers for it, you should care. And this feels like $90 million. Again, they'll probably restructure it. You know what? Who's a capologist that we can get on? We need to get a capologist on the show. Just explain it all to us.
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On today's part of my take, we have a twofer for the people, a little Italian twofer. We got Super Bowl champion Nick Sirianni. Awesome interview with coach. And then we have one of our favorite recurring guests, Diana Rossini, talking some football. We are going to talk some football because we had some news over the weekend. Matthew Stafford, Debo Samuel.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
This year, did you ever go to Saquon and be like, hey, dude, can you just do that 60-yard run thing where you do?
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I mean, it was insane. Was there a moment where you're like, this is just not normal? It felt like every week he'd just rip a long one.
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You think he's one of the best? You think he's a top 0-0-0-1% human? Yes. Worldwide? No chance. Yes. No chance. He's better at football than he is at football.
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Take the sunglasses down. Yes. If I had sunglasses, I'd look them down.
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You just admitted it. Thank you. Point us. He's awesome.
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He is pretty damn good. The proof is in the pudding.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Well, let me ask you this. Coaching in Philadelphia is tough. I think it's pretty crazy the swings you've had where, like I said, you've been to the playoffs four years ago. You've gone to two Super Bowls, won one. But you were also – some of the fan base had you on the hot seat at the beginning of the year. Some people in this room had you on the hot seat.
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That would be Max. This is fake news. You 100% had him on the hot seat. Come on.
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So, Max, come in here and ask some questions. Also, let me ask you this. So, yeah, Max, come on in here. Super Bowl, after the Super Bowl, you guys go to the party. You're at the hotel. I would assume, like, this is the pinnacle of your career. People are asking for pictures. You love taking pictures with people. That's a moment that like, hey, this is what I want to do. Share it with the fans.
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Sure. Is that fair to say that you love taking pictures with people in that moment?
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But like was it – let me phrase it a different way. Would it –
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it was an appropriate time for people to ask you for pictures yeah yeah now i had to like i normally stop and take a picture with everybody right but with that mass of like i had to i had to keep going so i yeah sorry to anybody i didn't take a picture no you did so so you took a picture with pug okay did i did i ice somebody in this no no max thought he was like he was like i'm i'm so much better than everyone i'm not gonna ruin this moment and ask for a picture do you want to do a picture now
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You do it after, yeah.
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That's not true. That's not true. Yeah, you did. You had him on the hot seat. Not fired, but you had hot seat. You had your eye on Sirianni.
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Max is also very Italian. We actually are like the Eagles. We have our entire behind the scenes.
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Oh, yeah. He cosplays as Kelsey.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Yeah. But we have all of our support staff is all Italian. So we're kind of modeling after the Eagles. Do you have too many Italians? We do have too many Italians. I think we do. Not enough. But yeah, so Max is very Italian. He gets very emotional. He might have had you on the hot seat to start the season.
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Okay, so go ahead.
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Let's get back to some fun. Well, I would imagine it makes it sweeter. Like, you know, like if everything's easy, then the great moments don't feel the same. No doubt.
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I'll take you to the candy shop. It's your birthday.
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Way better person than he was actor.
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By the way, another Italian has walked in. Diana Rossini is here. So we're full of Italians. Yeah, this is a great room. We're close to having a Rico act on this whole room.
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He wasn't a good actor. He was an actor.
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That's true. Yeah, just a couple jokes about a double murder. I mean, when he said, not guilty. Yeah. Somebody believed him. Yeah. So, yeah, Shefty, by the way, thanks to an AWL who found it. He did put Aaron Hernandez in the In Memoriam Shefty tweet, which... Now it's become the most important tweet I'm looking forward to this year.
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That's it for me. That's it for me. Do you want to apologize for putting him on the hot seat?
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Yeah.
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I know.
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Oh, yeah, we definitely spread that you were yelling at a thing. Not me. Absolutely.
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By the way, I think you misquoted Max. I think his quote was, what does he even do during games?
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I also think when Max said that you're like, you know, immortality, I would say... Until we go three and out. Yeah, one and four. You're going to be back on Max's hot seat? That's incorrect. That's incorrect.
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I think you and I would. I think Hank would. I'm on the Christmas list. Steven Chey would. Chey would for sure. I don't know if Max and memes, we'd maybe have to put a little, we'd have to maybe text them and let them know. I think Shefty would do it. Hey, Max died. Ingrown toenail.
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You better score some points. You're passionate.
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Yeah.
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You said it. Yeah. Did he tell it? Did he tip you off last year being like Quinion Mitchell? Like, Oh, yeah, he gives great insight, yeah. I just wanted to pump Jason Candle's tires because he's awesome. He's awesome, yeah.
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Well, Coach, thank you so much. Also, congrats on the new contract. I don't think it's happened yet, but winning a Super Bowl right before a contract year – Good shit. That was a good move. That's some good shit. That was a good move. Yeah. Yeah. That's some good shit. I know that you've probably been like, oh, that's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, congrats on that.
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All right, so Stafford staying with the Rams. PFT, you got Debo Samuel. Got Debo. Big time. Got Debo. You got a little upset in the group chat this weekend. A little miscommunication.
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Congrats on all the success and appreciate you stopping by.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, our good friend, Diana Rossini from The Athletic. You can listen to her podcast, Scoop City. Great podcast, by the way. Have you ever listened to it? You've never even been on it? Yeah, Diana Rossini podcast. Where's the invite?
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Well, you did not send me an invite.
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I'm going to boycott in solidarity.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
A lion doesn't concern themselves with sheep. All right. So, Diana, we're here at the Combine. What's the buzz? What's the biggest story right now at the Combine?
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We're 40.
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Also, I want it on the record that I went home at 11 o'clock, but I didn't go to sleep till 1 because I watched New Mexico lose and not cover till 1 o'clock.
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I had the community know you. I believed it. So wherever Aaron Rodgers lands, will the team let him do the Pat McAfee show per your reporting?
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Rick is very upset.
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Yeah, yeah. Was this the first year that you had an MVP vote?
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I was really thinking about him winning the MVP.
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It was showing off. Do you like New Orleans as a Super Bowl city? It was unbelievable. It was very fun.
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Yeah, yeah. You felt it.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
vindication yeah um question for you personally uh you left espn i feel like the bet has paid off how how is it going like that's a scary thing for a lot of people to leave espn because it is kind of you know the mothership and all that stuff and you've been crushing it in your new role at the athletic and your podcast do you look back and you're like that was an awesome decision by me because it's it takes balls like it was you know that's to make that jump it does
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Let it out. Let's go. Oh, he's got a document ready to go on his phone. Oh, nice. Oh, the group chat.
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So then he was like, I got it.
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Jack Mack. Jack Mack. Yeah, he actually invented Scoop City. You stole the name from him.
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Oh, Jets fans care. Jets fans care a lot.
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Now, reading a headline and basing all your facts on that is actually the correct way to do it. So memes, what do you have? Let's... Let's get it. Let's get it.
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Feelings are hurt.
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Yeah, he's definitely on the wrong side of his career, but it doesn't matter because you're signing him. It's not like you're signing him for the next five years. You're signing him for this year. You just need him to be Debo for a year. The contract's big, but who cares? If he's good for a year, it doesn't matter. Yeah, fifth round pick.
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No, he's going to be mad at you. I think it's really just like the don't shoot the messenger, shoot the message. He's just going to shoot the messenger every time.
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All right, so memes, do you have anything else besides the ultimatum that is bothering you right now?
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Oh, now it's all called into question. Wow. Now, I think that reporting was incredible.
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I also stand by that reporting. That's a fact.
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It's a start. That could also work. That could also work.
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Yeah.
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They're a dumpster fire. Did you call me like, I hate you? No, they're a dumpster fire. No, it's usually, I actually appreciate reporters because they bring to light things that should be brought to light. So it's like when there's a problem, I want it reported so that they can be embarrassed by that problem.
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Yeah, it would be one thing if you signed him and you're like, all right, new long-term contract for Debo. Yeah, he probably has lost a step and he's not the same as he was, but it doesn't matter. You just need like 85% of Debo for a year. Yeah, I'm pumped to watch Debo. So what was the anger about? So the anger, so here, I'll read it to you guys. So memes, so PFT said fifth round pick fleeced.
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You would rather like the fact that the Brick Johnson playing Madden as the shadow GM, that's a good story to come out because then the Jets might look in the mirror and be like, oh shit, this is stupid.
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If they don't, if Diana doesn't report that, they just can keep doing that and no one will ever know.
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A very, very important distinction. Which we stand by Brick. Brick's great.
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chill Mahomes with some time he sees the problem you know Jalen Carter right so is there a team that you talk to and you're impressed and being like maybe they haven't taken that step and been a playoff team or like a Super Bowl contender but you're like they're doing things the correct way and it's coming
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Meme said, Cowboys traded fourth round for Mingo. PFT said, OK, question mark. You traded a third to us for Dotson. Meme said, I'm not Max. I'm saying that's good. PFT said, I'm sorry. I saw the M, my bad. So Meme's Max. And then Max chimed in and said, we actually won a Super Bowl, though. So congrats on the offseason win. We'll take the actual ring.
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What are you hearing about the draft in terms of there are teams that you expect to be aggressive, possibly moving around, possibly trading up? It's a weird draft because it doesn't feel like teams are totally sold on both quarterbacks, but we know that both quarterbacks are going to get drafted really high because that's just how it goes. But how are teams approaching it?
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Right. I always do. Every single time. It's the worst.
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And then I start eating when I'm at the grocery store. I need seven types of Oreos.
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Yeah. Well, that might be because you're pregnant. Not right now. But you were. Do you crave an eggnog?
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There is context because we have discussed the difference between two and three and how much it changes everything. So I was like, oh, she did it.
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Yeah.
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But no, like... I love that he just uses you as, like, anything.
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Max had Sirianni in the hot seat.
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And I love that about him.
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Wait, so we went on a tangent. Back to the question, who's going to be aggressive?
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
PFT said, it's a what have you done for me lately? Keep living in the past, Max. And Max said, well, lately I won a Super Bowl. You, on the other hand, lost in the conference championship. BFT said, last month. Max said, by a lot. Also, you want to take a look at those Miles Garrett's next team's odds thing? Things are changing. And BFT said, keep focusing on that ring you already won, loser.
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Yeah, it's a great spot.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
But I'm dumb. And you say things.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Dan is dumb. Well, cause you never know. You can keep people on their toes. Like we did a Pope watch on Monday and people were like, dude, you just said a bunch of like St. Louis Cardinals prospects. I was like, I did that on purpose, but I also could have made a mistake. Kind of never know.
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So. A team we haven't talked about in a while, I feel like, the Cowboys. Was the league shocked when they went with Brian Schottenheimer in that entire coaching search? Because it didn't feel like they did a coaching search.
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Yeah, it felt clunky. Yeah.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
So I guess Miles Garrett. I mean, let's be honest.
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Maybe not even.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
He batted his eyes at Dion.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Yeah. All right. I had one last question. It's a rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Rowback.com. Promo code TAKE. So we had Schefter on on Friday's show. I'm going to ask you a similar question. The NFL can't do a Super Bowl abroad. Can you make sure that doesn't happen?
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It would suck. It's our game. It would suck ass. Don't do that.
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No. No, no.
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Too many perverts.
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Okay.
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We can't rely on you.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Memes is starting to make a lot of sense. I see what you're saying, memes.
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We're done talking about that. We're done talking about that. He'd gas you out.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
On to the next. We're about to talk to Nick Sirianni. I think my first question was like, hey, dude, isn't it bullshit you have to be at the Combine? He's like, I've been working basically two days or a day after the parade. He's got a next man up mentality.
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It's a lot of things you just said. It's a lot.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
I think so. I think he is. Oh, man. All right. Well, Diana, thank you as always. You're the best. It's great having you on. Full Italian podcast with you and Nick Sirianni. So much. Big time.
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That's what I need to be doing. Any questions for us?
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Yeah.
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No, I like Scoop City. You stole it from Jack Mack, but I like Scoop City. Sorry about that.
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I would listen. You know what? I'll break my boycott and I'll come on if we only talk about ice cream. Perfect. That's it. No questions about anything else. Just ice cream talk.
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All right. Thank you so much, Diana.
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Yeah, yeah. It's a lot, but it's also going to be awesome when they're all a little older.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Yeah, there you go. That's what I'm going for. Then you'll have the third after you win a second Super Bowl. Super Bowl, baby. Yeah, exactly. All right, thanks, Dan. Thanks, guys.
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Okay, let's wrap up. Adrian Brody threw his gum at his wife. That's our other Oscars. Brutal. Yeah. Why?
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He had gum in his mouth, and he tossed it back at her. This is some high-level Oscars stuff for people.
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He has. Mm-hmm. Just search Adrian Brody. What are you doing? Best picture.
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Oh, that's weird. Max searched best picture, and it was just a highlight of Cooper DeGene's pick six. No, it wasn't. Oh, it was Devontae Smith. Sorry. All right. Thank you to Nick Sirianni and Diana Rossini. Let's do numbers. We got to get it. Someone's got to get it. Six. It's been a while.
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Pug, are you a little upset at yourself because someone pointed out that if you had continued your working backwards from 99, you would have gotten it on Friday at 93?
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Okay. Say the numbers again.
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11. Memes, you ever gotten this? Nope.
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Memes, what'd you pick?
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It's true.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Wait, today's your fucking birthday? Well, not today.
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Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Oh, so I didn't miss your birthday. No. I got all day to fucking throw gifts at you.
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I'll go 30.
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I'll go 33, Memes.
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Yeah. So, Miles Garrett. A month ago. Max, are you going to get Miles Garrett?
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Oh, you fucking dick, Jack. He did 77? Yeah, 77. Right after I did.
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Oh, he didn't even know. What was your number last time, Jack?
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All right, I'll go 24. So you're out on 33?
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30.
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77. People are going to think from the time stamps that someone got it. Five. Five.
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Yes. The only thing memes had over you, you've now erased. Jaden Daniels. On his birthday.
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Memes said I'm taller than him, so technically I have everything over him. That's good. Memes, I want to award this five to you.
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Okay. All right. I'm finding it under section 17, rule number 84. It says that no lottery ball participant can give their winning ball to anyone else, even if it's their birthday, even if it's memes. Birthday is actually what it says, except for that one. Well, no, that wasn't. That was different. That wasn't it before. That was before the selection. Some stupid fucking rule. But now memes.
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You got nothing. You got nothing.
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Happy birthday. Memes. Memes. You know what? One more just for you. You're the only one who could say the number.
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Okay. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? Yeah. Oh, memes. It's got to be three. You so do. Are you sure?
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Are you sure, memes? I don't think it's going to be three. You should pick another number right now. No, it's going to be three. You should pick another number right now. It's going to be three. It's not going to be three.
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I did. Oh, fuck.
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Memes. I told you to pick a different number. You want to do one more memes? All right, one more memes. All right, yeah, we'll keep going.
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He's never going to get it.
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No, you got it, memes. Pick your number. All right, seven. Okay.
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I want it to be three so bad. Nothing would be better. Ah, 81. Not even close. Not even close. Memes, you're going to get this. No, he's not. He's never going to get it. Happy birthday, though, Memes. Happy birthday.
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Did Howie do it again or did Howie do it again? Howie could do it again. He could do it again.
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That's what I want.
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Bubble screen merchant, as some people would say. Maximum violence or bubble screen merchant.
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There also is a theory that he could be unlocked now that he is out of Kyle Shanahan's offense because Kyle Shanahan did try to force the rock to Debo a lot last year. There was a lot of times where it was like they're just trying to get Debo going and it doesn't seem like the correct strategy.
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How many times was Trent Williams included in that?
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Because there were a couple times when Trent Williams and Debo were out.
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Okay.
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Okay. All right. So what else? Oh, Trey Smith got tagged, franchise tag. So the Chiefs are keeping him. And then Kelsey officially, officially is coming back. Yep. As for the combine, I had some winners and losers, and it's just based off of just tweets of videos I saw. Okay. Loser Will Howard. Did you see the cut up of him throwing passes? That was tough. Very mean. Whatever.
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Whoever did that to him. Will Howard also has nine-inch hands. That's tough. So does Cam Ward. Winner, Tyler Show, because he has nine and three-fourths inch hands. Massive. Massive. Also winner, Jalen Milrow. Jalen Milrow at the Senior Bowl... He measured his hands, and I think they were eight and three-fourths, and he grew a half an inch on his hands to the combine.
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So now he's nine and a quarter. I love that. That's huge. Loser, Isaiah Bond, because he said he was going to maybe run a 4-1, and then he ran a 4-4, and he wasn't even the fastest Texas receiver. Matthew Golden ran a 4-3. I don't know who's... Who in Isaiah Bond's camp is telling him what to do? Because that's just simple where you're putting the expectations.
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You got to go in and say, I don't know, I might run a 4.7 and then run a 4.4. But damn, I'm way faster than I thought I was. Because 4.4 is not slow. But it's not 4-1, and it wasn't even close to the fastest wide receiver.
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I had him as a winner because he hurt himself early on in one of the drills and then powered through it and actually had a few of the drills he dominated, absolutely dominated. He's going to be really, really fucking good. Yeah. He said, I think there was a quote, he was like, go look at my tape of the couple of sacks I ever gave up. None of them had anything to do with arm length.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Hey, Pardon My Take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we have a twofer for the people. We have Coach Rick Pitino in studio. He stopped by on Wednesday before his game against DePaul, talking St. John's, a little horse racing. We also have Super Bowl champ Cooper DeJean.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Maybe what they should have done is they should have made the robot arms, but it should have just been the robot should have just been Joe West.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
That would have been cool. Wow. You like that one, Oldie?
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
That would be sick, actually. You said, I don't like it. It's a slow game. It's a bad game, but it's an okay game. It's all right.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Yeah. Not good. The only other one I had, the only other sports story is Zach Martin retired. Incredible career. I saw this stat Chase Daniel tweeted out. Zach Martin finished with more all pros, nine, than holding penalties, seven. That's pretty incredible. That's insane.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Yeah. Also, Zach Martin is I know that we've been doing this for a long time. We're coming up on a decade and, you know, we've been around and we meet people all the time. But it's still like always blows my mind when we meet a really good football player, really good, you know, sports player. And they're like, oh, yeah, I listen to you guys. And we met Zach Martin at the Super Bowl week.
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He's like, yeah, I listen to you guys all the time. It's like.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Yeah. Oh, yeah. A lot of body armors. Hey, Oldie, while you're taking a piss, think of at the end of every show on Friday, we do Fyre Fest, so whatever the worst thing that happened to you this week is. Or it could be the last month.
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All right, okay.
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I thought he was like, the guy's been here for fucking 13 hours. I thought he was like, you know what? That's it. I've had enough.
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No, he doesn't.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
It's wild. But yeah, he's an incredible dude.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
I almost puked on the stream because I was laughing so hard. When he did the handstand with the side pouch pussy. That moment when we first saw the side pouch, and I was convinced I was just looking at his ball sack. Yeah. And I just couldn't. He's just like, no, dude. I think his words were, this could go on Disney right now. This is his balls?
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Now that Oldie's not here, I mean, Team Canada deserved to win that game with the way Binnington played. It was incredible. It was insane. And that was an awesome, awesome hockey. He had three of the best saves I've seen in a long time. Just in overtime. Yeah, and it was an incredible tournament. I hope they do that as often as possible because that was so good for hockey. See you in 2026, though.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Yeah, see you in 2026. We're ready to go. All right, do we have anything else before we get to our interviews?
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
He was playing hockey at like 10.30 in the morning, having the time of his life. He's like, yeah, I guess it's okay for a two and a half star dump.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
You're the best spokesman. We might just hire you just to read ads.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Yeah, you just drink a body armor, then you come back off.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
8% alcohol, 100% delicious. It's the best. The absolute best. It's a berry blast right there. Yeah, have that.
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Wait, go back in and do it on the mic so we can hear you. Yeah.
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All right, Oldie, before we do our interviews, tell us real quick, you drive the Boney back at home?
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And you were a trash man before that.
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Please give me some credentials. You drove the trash truck, though.
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How would you rate your bony driving? Were you the best?
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Sure. I mean, I can't remember the last time an All-Star winner was, like, Anyone cared? No. You know what? Also, I don't know if we said this, but congratulations to Team Shaq. Yeah, we didn't get them there properly. Team Shaq, we should talk about Team Shaq. I know it's been a week, but we finally watched the tape. Team Shaq really put it on in the NBA All-Star Game. They were incredible.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest. It is head coach of St. John's Basketball, Rick Pitino, back in studio. Coach, thank you so much for coming back into our office. You have the documentary, guys. The show is out now. You can watch it on Vice. I watched the first episode. It's called Red Storm Rising. It feels like since you were last here, so last year,
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You guys didn't make the tournament. You now have a show about you. You're the 10th team in the country. Feels like everything, Patino Ball is starting to work at St. John's. Is that fair to say?
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It was great because I do think that especially in college sports right now with the transfer portal and NIL, there's a lot of people that are like, hey, tough coaching doesn't really happen as much anymore because guys are getting paid and guys can jump from one school to the next. So I feel like that was a pretty good promo for what you still stand for and your coaching style.
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And I think there are kids out there that still want that. They want to be coached hard. Yeah.
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I can't wait to see the rematch of Team Shaq and Team Chuck. Oh, come on. A rivalry for the ages. And did the NFC win the Pro Bowl?
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Yeah. I also think you're like your team defense. I love watching you guys play the Connecticut game. I think it was two weeks ago was a perfect example where you guys got punched in the mouth. It was a crazy crowd at stores. You're down. I think you're down like 16, 18 or early.
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And you guys got back in that game, but watching that game, you didn't get back in the game because you started hitting shots. You got back in the game because of defense. You started making everything tough for UConn and then getting back in the game by shutting them down first, which I don't feel like you see very often anymore.
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Okay, because we're just doing all-star game talk because that's where we're at in sports. Who cares about any of these games?
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Yeah. So wait, how do you fix that? Because I know watching the first episode, which everyone should go watch it because it is really very well done. But I watched the first episode and there was a lot talking about Qadari Richmond, who's your star player in fixing his shot. Have you noticed that his shot has gotten better? And how has that process even worked?
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Yeah. So a quote that you had, and I love this because it is very coach speak. So I want you to maybe tell me exactly what this means. But you said, "'Nothing changes if nothing changes.'" I liked it. It's like the standard is the standard. Football guys usually say that.
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Yeah, I just love the quote because it's one of those, when you hear it first, you're like, that's kind of dumb. And then you're like, oh shit, that actually means something. Nothing changes if nothing changes.
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Who cares? Right, Hank?
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It's preseason football. Should we talk about that? Like, who cares? No, but congratulations to Canada. It's really.
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Yeah. Are you starting to get illusions of grandeur with this team? Cause that was the other thing you said early on. You're like, I don't, I liked it. Cause a lot of coaches won't be as honest as you were. You're like, I don't have illusions of grandeur for these guys yet. Like, are they good? I don't know. We haven't played anyone. We got to find out.
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So are you starting to think, Hey, this team is a dangerous team. Come March.
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Yeah, yeah. And there is... There's something about Rick Pitino in the second years that you've been able to do. What is that? Because they showed it in the first episode, but Providence, second year, you go from a 17-14 team to a Final Four. Kentucky, people will think, oh, how can you turn around Kentucky? It's Kentucky. No, they had the death penalty. You guys were ineligible.
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You turned them around. Louisville, same thing. Iona. And now the second year at St. John. What is it about the second year that you're able to do this and have these big bounces?
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We're also going to talk some USA Canada Four Nations. Max is on vacation after vacation week, so we have guest producer Oldie in the studio if you tuned into our stream. You saw a lot of Oldie. You saw a lot of Oldie. So we'll get his thoughts as well. He's from Canada. We flew him in today to watch with us. And then we're going to finish up with Firefest of the Week.
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Yeah, that early season loss to Baylor, I know that you can't comment on it, but you did cover two and a half, so thank you for that.
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The overtime, first of all, it was an incredible hockey game. Just so well played, high intensity for an All-Star game. And Binnington was just insane in the overtime because the U.S. should have won the All-Star game multiple times. Yes. And if they had won the All-Star game, we would have started the show the exact same way saying... Congrats to the U.S. for winning an all-star game.
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Yeah, I mean, and also very weird. I mean, you're playing in like a conference room in the Bahamas.
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I wanted to read some criticism that maybe came from a college basketball expert at Barstool Sports, and I want you to comment on it, okay? This is what this person said. This is from actually I think the day you were hired at St. John's. He said, Facilities stink. Best players in area leave NYC. Garden doesn't draw. Haven't made conference semis since 2000. How do you fix that?
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Hire a 70-year-old man with no successor plan. Patino will make them a story and draw attention, but this is a stopgap. That's a college basketball quote-unquote expert.
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But, I mean, this person said garden doesn't draw. You literally are drawing the garden now. Yeah, that... I am surprised with selling out. Yeah, but you proved him wrong in a year and a half. This Rico Bosco guy, he's junk take. What's his name? Rico Bosco. No, so Rico does work with us. We had like a big debate.
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He's obsessed with this succession plan thing where he's like, well, what are they going to do after Patino leaves in like six or seven years? Like, what does it matter? If he goes and he has a six, seven year run at St. John's and they win, You're not going to take one of the best basketball coaches of all time for those six or seven years?
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Right.
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You don't know the future.
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Just promise me this, when Rico Bosco, when you guys make a Final Four run and he asks for a jumpsuit and jump on the bandwagon, I'll give the tweet to one of your guys on staff, just so you have it, and he'll be like, are you the same guy? Because he will. He'll ask to get a jumpsuit and be like, I always love it.
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Yeah, he is.
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pictures with memes like he's you know in front of the Statue of Liberty right now the you're absolutely right this is just I mean as far as I'm concerned that was game two of a three game series well if they really wanted if they cared about this game if you can just ask the players on the ice if they really cared about who won this game they would have fought in the first period agree and in that type of game I think the U.S.
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Yeah. Yeah, they're all over people. That's a fact. So you've been accepted back at Kentucky, which has to feel good because there's been a long time where that wasn't the case. And now Cal's going through the same thing where he got booed and he's on the outside. What has it been like with Mark Pope now being there?
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I think you even got a little criticism for maybe being too pro-Kentucky, but I thought it was cool. It was one of those moments like, hey, I had the heights of my success here and I'm finally being welcomed back into Big Blue Nation.
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No, it was conference championship Saturday. Right, it was before. It was at night. He's like, going to bed. What do you mean?
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The white suit would be pretty cool. Break it out for old times' sake. I think you should. Wait, so we were talking a little bit before, but how are your horses doing?
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Exactly. So we do have Oldie here. He has been with us all day. When I say all day, I mean literally all day. He showed up at the office at 10 a.m. Puck drop wasn't until 7.30. He is Canadian, former trash man, blue collar guy. Salt man now. Salt man. He's keeping the roads clean. Yes, doing a little bony on the side, doing a little zamboni, working for the town. Oldie, how did you see that game?
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Yeah. Where did you win? You won at the Pegasus?
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Oh, okay, Aqueduct.
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Yeah. So last year, you guys obviously didn't make the tournament. Did you think you were right on that bubble and like, hey, we had a chance? How does that work on Selection Sunday? where you're like, I think maybe we have a chance here?
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
So Max, our producer back there, he's a Villanova guy, also Italian. He claims, and I want to know what you think about this, he claims that that Seton Hall St. John's being left out, the Big East is an Italian league, and that was anti-Italian discrimination. What do you think?
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Okay, all right, all right. Yeah, so he was right. After selection study, he's like, this is just anti-Italian discrimination. They just want to keep the Italians out of the tournament.
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Yeah, and they probably had minus five for Italian.
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Yeah, there's just little asterisks there.
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Give us your thoughts. Unload your thoughts on that game.
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Yeah, I mean, it is true. Football has completely consumed American culture, unlike anything we thought would be possible. And it's the debate, is the NBA broken? Is Major League Baseball broken? It's like, yeah, maybe they've gone down a little, but I think it's more that the NFL has just...
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It's an odd fit for sure. How do you feel with the NIL and transfer portal? Because it's funny, you've gone the reverse of some of your contemporaries where like Coach K has retired, Tony Bennett, like you mentioned, Boeheim, Roy Williams. A lot of these guys feel like they've gotten out because of the transfer portal and NIL and having to play a different game.
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You've kind of almost run into the fire. and been like, I'm ready for it. I'm ready for the challenge.
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Yes, he's ready to go. Wait, so you're not even looking at any college or high school kids? No, not this year. So if a five-star high school kid calls you up and is like, hey, I know you're not looking, but I want to come to St. John's.
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The guy that kept knocking on your door. Yeah, nothing changes if nothing changes. So that's an interesting point that you just made, though. Do you think that your time in Greece has made you a better, like, have a leg up in the NIL and transfer world in college basketball?
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Yeah, because it does feel like there are teams. It's kind of like free agency in sports where they've won the offseason, and they've got this transfer and this transfer, and the parts just don't fit together.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah. Are your conditioning drills just as hard as they used to be?
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Yeah, because your teams always are some of the best-conditioned teams. I didn't know if, like, getting a little older, you didn't take it as hard on them, because I would hate to see that.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Actually, the biggest takeaway is that, Oldie, you were wrong about this game.
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Yeah, I would try to get a technical just to fire up the guys.
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Yeah. Get the guys, yeah, going and just being like, look, I'm going to fight for you. I'm going to get a technical, maybe get thrown out of a game. When was the last time you've been thrown out of a game?
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Yeah, it is crazy how that can all turn on you depending on who you lose to early. I do love your odds this year, though. Love them. I think you've got a great team.
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I love them at 30-1. Not that I know, but... We're enamored with your team. Might have. Financially. Well, yeah, I like you guys, 30-1. You're 30-1 to win a national championship?
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We can laugh about it at Belmont.
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No, this was like three or four weeks ago.
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It might have been after the UConn game, because like I said, I watched that whole game, and I was just so impressed with you guys coming, because I thought watching that game, the way UConn came out, they needed that win, and I was like, this is just a night where St. John's got nothing. And then you just fought back on that defensive end, getting turnovers.
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I'm not familiar with what you're saying.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Has anyone in your world been contacted by the Indiana Hoosiers?
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Okay. Okay.
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Okay.
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But the Indiana Hoosiers are looking. Indiana is something about the Indiana job. Every name, every big name gets thrown out there. Can I give you my pick?
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What's the sign, last question, what's the sign of a bad practice? How quickly can you know that a bad practice is occurring?
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Yes, we've got to practice better. We have Coach Gruden now. I don't know if you've seen, but he's on staff, John Gruden. I know John.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Yeah, and he's been giving us the business because we've had some bad practices.
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Well, we like him here. So maybe a couple more years here and then go back to the NFL. Maybe you'll part-time in the NFL. Yeah, we enjoy watching football with him. Yeah, yeah. Well, Coach, thank you so much for coming back. We appreciate it. And good luck the rest of the season. 30-1. Appreciate you having me. Let's do it. Let's make some magic. Let's do it.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is Super Bowl champion, Cooper DeJean. Cooper, first of all, thank you. Congratulations. Thank you for joining us. It's been, what, eight, nine, ten days? Has it fully set in? You just told us you're back in Iowa. Has it fully set in that every time people say your name now, it's Super Bowl champion attached to it?
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Wait, so you're back in Iowa right now. You're from a very small town. What was it like getting, was there a parade or anything? I mean, this is, you're the most famous thing that's ever come out of your town, I would assume. Like, is it weird being back and being like, yeah, you guys watched me on Super Bowl Sunday return an interception for Patrick Mahomes to the house.
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Like, that's got to be kind of crazy.
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Wow. Yeah. Yeah, they know. They know. Are you going to go to, like, a basketball game or something? Because this is like a storybook, like, movie thing. Like, small town hero comes back, and you're going to have, like, an insane welcome and everything.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
People are going to be going nuts. Yeah. That's such a cool feeling. Oh, man. So, all right. Let's talk about the game real quick. We have some other topics we want to hit. But the pick six, obviously, I would assume you've watched the replay a bunch. But in the moment... It felt like you knew exactly where you were going. It was such a great return.
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The pick was great, but the return was even better. Did it feel like it slowed down for you in that moment where you just kind of saw everything? Because it was a perfect return.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
How many times did you watch the replay?
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You got to. I'm not even an Eagles fan. I feel like I've scrolled past it probably 50 times on Twitter and watched it almost every time.
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Yeah, big time.
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Jersey Jerry was basically like every single time you guys were on defense, he's like, here comes another pick six and I'm going to win, you know, Super Bowl MVP with Cooper DeGene. So he was rooting hard for it. Because one pick six in the Super Bowl, you are in the discussion almost immediately. And the game did turn on your pick six.
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That's got to be a cool feeling where it's not only obviously a pick six in the Super Bowl, but that was really the moment that it was like, oh shit, the Eagles are going to kill the Chiefs here.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
They're jangings. Now, Oldie, I got a question for you from the Canadian perspective. Like, it's your sport. You invented it. Like, do you even get credit for winning your sport? I mean, it's not even in an All-Star game?
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Yeah, yeah. All right, so I got a question in the transition to the NFL. You get to the Eagles. Your first game, let's call it first month. Nick Sirianni, it's fourth and two, it's fourth and three, and you're going for it. Were you like, wait, I didn't think this was allowed because you came from Iowa and that was just punt no matter what. Was that a culture shock?
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That had to have been a culture shock.
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I imagine you like – it's a stupid – obviously this isn't how it works, but like you writing back to Iowa, writing a letter being like, you guys won't believe what happens here. Like we don't punt. It's crazy. I've discovered going for it. There's a different world out there, and it doesn't involve punting. But that is Iowa, and you guys do it so well.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
I also should say you got totally screwed in the Minnesota return. Yep. I remember I had Iowa in that game. I was very upset. That's bullshit. I don't know if that's still – I don't know if the Super Bowl maybe makes it a little easier, but I would still be pissed about that return against Minnesota a couple years ago.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
So it doesn't even matter.
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Yeah. I mean, you barely won in your own sport in an All-Star game.
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Yeah, because there's that famous draft night video where the Rams traded up and the Eagles brass thought that the Rams were going to pick you. And so it very well could have been. They're like, that's it. We lost Cooper to Gene because they had you circled. That's a crazy sliding doors moment. That could have been a completely different career.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
You would have still been great, but you wouldn't have maybe won a Super Bowl this year.
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Yeah. So you also played, obviously, other sports in high school. You were a very good basketball player. Was there ever a time when you thought, hey, I might do basketball instead of football? I also, as an aside, I love whenever the internet finds out, like, oh, Cooper DeGene was really good at basketball. It's like, yeah, he's in the NFL. He's an incredible athlete.
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I would expect him to also be good at other high school sports. But was there a moment where you were like, maybe basketball's the thing for me?
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Yeah. I mean, I think it's partially Will Compton's fault, but you do carry a lot of weight for the all-white team that he has put together. It's like Cooper DeGene, you're a very important piece to the puzzle.
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We need you.
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Yeah. Did you get hit by a can as well? Because I saw Howie Roseman got hit by a can.
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Explain the LeBron video.
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Never meet your heroes, I guess.
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Yeah. What was the toughest place to play in the Big Ten?
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Yeah. What what does your dad say to you after on the field? Because that was cool. Like it was cool seeing the I saw the picture. You guys, everyone gets to take pictures with their family in the Super Bowl trophy. It just seemed very like a really awesome moment to have your first touchdown in the Super Bowl. And then your parents come down. What do you say?
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Was he like, I can't believe this happened?
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Yeah, that's a full circle moment.
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Yeah, it was your birthday too. Jesus.
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We came and interviewed Lane Johnson. He came and stopped by, and he always ends his text to me, my Paisan. I'm not Italian, but I appreciate it. I'm just honorary with him.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
All right, well, Cooper, thank you so much. We appreciate it. Congrats again. If you're ever in Chicago, come by the office. Check us out. And we're going to be in Philly for Grit Week, so we'll see you then.
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Do you say that team down south? Yeah, so you're a Buckeyes fan because you're best friends with Rick Nash growing up. Yeah. Rick Nash, by the way, we were FaceTiming with him in between third period and OT. He confirmed that he first saw Oldie's pussy when he was six years old. Wow. Yeah. You show me yours, I'll show you mine.
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All right, let's finish up the week. We got Fire Fest of the Week.
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Wait, what? How did this start?
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Wow, so that's a smart scheme.
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Yeah, this is fraud. Hank, that's brutal. That's the worst feeling, because you're like, you don't get got, and you get got.
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I'll do some research. So those guys are dead now because Oldie's going to go after them. Yeah, these guys want to meet.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
I'm with you, Hank.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
My Fyre Fest is a great vacation, except for I had one moment. I was the hottest I've ever been gambling in college basketball, and I went down with friends, a few couples, and two of my friends decided to fade me when I was 16 and 4 in college basketball, and they faded me on a pick. I ended up winning, so I went to 17-4.
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But I think I'll probably... I told them straight up, I was like, if our friendship was 100%, it's 98% for the rest of our lives. Yeah, 2% loss.
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They did gain 1% back, because people seeing over my shoulder are probably wondering what the fuck this is. My friends gave me a gift for my 40th birthday.
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It is. The day I was born, January 30th, 1985, happened to be also Dan Marino's wedding day. So they got me a picture from Dan Marino's wedding day.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
So I have good friends, but they did fade me, so we lost a little bit of friendship.
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His first wife. His first wife.
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Oh.
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Yeah, yeah. But so I got 1% back, so 99%. But yeah, you can't. I was on an all-time heater, and they were asking for my picks. They were like, give me your picks. I gave them my picks, and then they faded one of them. I can't ask for picks and then fade it. I can tell Big Cat was actually mad about this. I was.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Yeah, I was right, though. 16-4. And they asked for my picks. And then they fade. Listen, if someone fades me, just... I would never. No, but Hank, you don't... When we're on the opposite side, it's not because you're asking for picks. We bet the opposite side. That's totally different. When you ask, like, can you give me your pick?
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
And then just go the exact opposite?
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Well, I went to 17-4.
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Hold on, Oldie. But here, more context. They took the 16-4 picks. Like, they were riding with me. So they had already won money. They were trying to time the market. Yeah, you can't do that. Like, they had already cashed. They were riding your coattails. They were riding my coattails. And they're like, ah, we're getting off right here. No, no, no, no. Oh. You got to stay on.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
But they did make it back with the damn Reno. It's a good picture.
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All right, that was a great Fyre Fest.
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Oldie, you're the best, man. I don't think it's the last we'll hear from you. All right, last thing we do, Oldie. numbers so there's a lottery ball machine so we have this we've done this for five years now for going on five years all right meme sitting next to you has never gotten it he's never gotten it Pretty insane. But you can guess any number, Oldie, from 1 to 100.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
We'll let you go first, so you just guess, and then we're all going to guess numbers. I've never gotten it.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
So are you going four or 69?
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Of oldie, yeah.
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He was FaceTiming Rick Nash, who he's been childhood friends with. And Rick Nash said that he has gotten more texts today than when he won the gold medal.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
Right? That's a good point. All right, so you mentioned biz, PFT. Biz got assaulted today, as our friend Ryan Whitney said, worse than what the Irish travelers did to him because – Fox News ran a clip. They wrote a story on a clip from our podcast on Wednesday saying, X Team Canada star says country will have national emergency if Team USA or Team loses to U.S. in four nations final, a.k.a.
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the All-Star Game. And then he got community noted and it said Bissonette may have played for Team Canada as a teenager in under 18 world championships. He was far from a star then and could be considered the pinnacle of his career. Paul Biznasty never played for Canada again. His fame has come post career as a media personality.
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
brutal yeah but fair fair because that's community notes yeah on x the everything app yeah it's all happening on it yeah so uh but yeah it was it was it was a great all-star game it was one of my favorite all-star games i'll say that much yeah i'd say it's probably this year i'd say top two top two top two not two i'd say uh yeah shack chuck shack shack one for the ages yeah uh all right so oldie we're gonna talk some other sports uh you can chime in whenever you want uh what do you any thoughts on wemby being out for the year
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Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week
He was a rookie last year. He was at one point.
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I immediately think of Chris Bosh because he had an incredible career, but he had to retire at the end because of blood clots. I thought those might have been in his lungs. Yeah, but this is still serious.
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Yeah, it just sucks because I wanted to see Wemby, you know, he's having a great year. Hank, you don't root for injuries, but you also do have a Jaron Jackson Defensive Player of the Year ticket.
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You know, the Spurs probably weren't going to make the playoffs, but still they had a chance to maybe sneak into the play-in game. It still just sucks.
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And Russillo.
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Yeah, it sucks. It sucks. All right, what other sports? This is a national sports podcast. We probably shouldn't have even talked about all-star games.
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I kind of like it. Yeah. I do worry, as always, that when you take away umps, you take away like 50% of the conversations guys can have with each other. And that goes for refs and everything in sports. If you can't complain about the calls, what are we going to talk about? It'd basically be like putting a ban on no discussion about the weather.
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What small talk can you do if everything is robots and it's always perfect? But... It's kind of cool.
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There you go, Oldie. Right now, Lenardi has it San Diego State, North Carolina is the playing game. That would kind of suck North Carolina, Kansas in the first round if North Carolina won that game.
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Yeah, and then the best part is tomorrow is maybe one of my favorite days of the year because, and I know I say that a lot, Hank, but the matchups are the best. Yes, we got it. Creme de la creme.
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Florida, Tennessee, right? Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama. The Big Ten's got great games. Michigan State, Oregon to start is going to be great. Badgers play UCLA. I think Illinois plays Maryland. And then Purdue versus Purdue. That sucked. USC got screwed. That sucked.
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It's institutional.
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Yeah. It's just carryover. But it was a great day of hoops. I don't know what else to say. Oh, we should talk about the Villanova game. Max, that was tough to watch.
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And Dixon, what was his?
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Which is good. Not his career.
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But that's good.
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Can we watch it again? Because I think it was the last pussy. We don't have to watch it again. Let's watch it one more time. It was the last pussy that felt like...
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No, I think the last pussy was – no one's meant it more than that moment when he called him a pussy at the end.
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Oh, no, Max. It's not based on your algorithm, is it? We're going to have to put this in the show again. That's Campus Cuties. This is the for you page. Okay. Going to have to put that in the show. Make sure you subscribe to the YouTube. You just get Max's the hot girls he follows every single day.
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That one.
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Also shout out Texas Tech and Clemson. They were in dog fights. Those are two very good teams that Clemson could, I mean, with Duke Cooper flag being out, Clemson is very live too. Yeah. I mean, I think Clemson plays Louisville next. Oh yeah. That's going to be a great, great game. And Texas Tech is playing great ball.
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It was incredible.
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Red Panda hot seat. Yeah. Although Red Panda still, she is the queen. She's the queen. She's the Big East tournament. Fanta was fanning out for her. It was a good time.
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No, it was an incredible clip.
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I agree. I agree. Absolutely agree. All right, so other things. I'm just scrolling to see if we missed anything. I got something.
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Bill Raftery, Conference Championship Thursday, Oldie Is Back With The Boys + Fyre Fest Of The Week
Okay, wait. Let me see if we have any other college basketball. I think that's it. Hank, did you have a good day of watching college basketball? Oh, does that have anything to do with I did well? Yeah, I might. Oh. Good for you, though. Mr. Marsh. The faders are having a tough day. Yeah, I just got to trust the process.
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Yeah, he's buying the dip. Yeah. Yeah, just stay invested. Buy the dip.
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Don't panic. Any thoughts from you? I know you're pretty upset about Cooper Flagg.
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Yeah. Well, Stanford Cow was Wednesday night.
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Yeah.
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Oh, okay. That's a good big note.
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What? Oh, yeah. In the ACC.
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Bill Raftery, Conference Championship Thursday, Oldie Is Back With The Boys + Fyre Fest Of The Week
Yeah. I was confused. Yeah. But we did have a classic matchup of, yeah, USC versus Purdue. Love it. I love it. Need it. Need it. Maybe there's not more two polar opposites of locations.
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Yeah. I already knew. Max gave me knuckles on that. Yeah, I knew. I knew.
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Oh, can I get the cash instead?
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That's it?
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Yeah.
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Very far. To Earth? Very, very far.
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Yeah.
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You're trying to instill family into the program. It's like Miss Terry. Can I say something? And listen, it's no offense to Bill Belichick. If they have a kid, that's going to be. They can't. That would be so funny. They can't. That would be so funny. They can't, Hank. That would be weird. They can't. They can do whatever they want to do. That would be weird. They can't. It's like Robert De Niro.
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Doesn't Robert De Niro have a kid like every two years? Yeah, that guy fucks. He just keep popping out kids.
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So we need to email her.
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So we need to email Jordan asking to have Bill Belichick on the show. Yes.
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I had a couple things as well. Rory McIlroy is the worst. I don't really know what's going on. Did you guys see the clip of him taking a fan's phone? No, I didn't see that. You didn't? I didn't think that was that bad. Hank, that was some... Golfers are so soft. So here's what happened, PFD. Rory McIlroy is in the Players' Championship this weekend. On Tuesday, he's playing a practice round.
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He hit one into the water. The guy said, oh, just like the Masters in 2011. He goes and re-tees, hits his second shot. This is a practice round. Then goes and takes the guy's phone and just starts walking off with him.
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That's soft, Hank. Yeah, it's soft. That's insanely soft. Like, it's a practice round.
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If he can't take that type of heat, I mean, yeah, the guy might be a dick. You could be like, oh, that guy's kind of a dick. Like, why would you say that? But still... That's soft. It looked like he was also typing something on the phone. I think he was trying to delete the video. But then he's got to then go to the next person who took the video of the video.
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And it's also a practice round. Like, I would understand if this was a Sunday. He's competing for it's the fifth major competing to win. Then it's like, all right. Yeah, that's a fucked up thing. It's a practice round.
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This is so soft. This is soft, Hank.
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That's soft. Written apology. What did Rory say about it? Rory. He doesn't want to answer questions.
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Also soft.
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That's revenge porn.
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Wow. Hank, I can't believe you were going to defend him. You're too much of a golfer. Yeah. You're not the common man. You're too much of a golfer. You're closer to a PGA Tour pro than the common man. I'm not completely exonerating this guy because, like, yeah, he's a dick.
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If this, oh my God, Kentucky's about to blow this game. You hit the over PFT. You jinx it, big cat. I think you said Kentucky playing today, Friday. Yeah, I did. Oh shit. I just heard yelling. Oh, something happened. Okay. Kentucky's no longer playing today. It's going to be Alabama-Oklahoma. What a comeback.
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This might be a double jinx. I might double jinx it. Wow. What a meltdown, Kentucky. That's a game that Cal would have won. Cal would have won. He would have had a player. Cal would have won this game.
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Yeah. All right, well, I guess we'll see. I'm going to get so many tweets about Kentucky playing Bama if this ends up being Oklahoma. All right, back to the Roy thing. You know how this works, Hank. If this guy posts the video, the internet has brains, and the internet would say, hey, dude, that's lame. He would get shunned.
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It's kind of like when someone will DM a player, and the player will respond in an angry tone, and they'll post it, and everyone's like, dude, why would you DM a player after a loss? Like, you're the loser here. Yeah. That guy would have been the loser here. Instead, Rory flipped it, and now he's the loser, and it's soft.
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Well, he shouldn't have done it.
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You could easily just walk away.
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All right, Kentucky's about to inbound the ball. By the way, they were up 80-72 with 119 left. Holy fuck. Jeremiah Fears just took over. Oh, man. Oh, Kentucky. Oh, wait, there's .5 seconds. Okay, Kentucky-Bama. Yeah, Kentucky-Bama. All right, you were right. I got to correct my tweet because I said Cal would have won this game. Now I'm going to have to say Cal would have lost this game.
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Cal would have lost this game, yeah. That will be fun. All right.
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There were so many awesome games, so many awesome finishes. My eyes feel like they're going to fall out of my head, but it was awesome.
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Yeah. Big time.
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I know everything. What an ending. What a day. That was incredible. Jeremiah Fierce did it all there in the end. I feel like he scored every bucket. And then Kentucky. Good job, Kentucky. So Kentucky-Bama, that's going to be fun. That'll be great. That over is going to be like 170. All right. The other golf related thing I had, we had a big respect the biz. Did you guys see this? Yep.
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It was... Hold on. I got to find it. It was... Morikawa, right? Morikawa basically said, I don't owe anything to anyone, which is fine. I don't care. Like... Yeah. I mean, you do owe answers, but if that's kind of the attitude you want to take, I'm not going to be upset about it.
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Yeah, yeah. In the media, we've been very consistent on this. The media complains about it, but what they don't realize is they're not looking in the mirror. And when a player says, I don't owe anyone anything or I'm not going to do media, they're literally just giving you a story. Yes. You now have a story to write about how Morikawa didn't do the media.
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So it is better than him giving a cliche answer.
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But I did like Ian McMillan, who's a senior editor at Sports Illustrated, said, Colin Murakawa said, I don't owe anyone anything. He said, yes, you do. Professional sports and the money that comes with it relies on the relationship between athletes and media.
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Yeah. But the media. He's saying the media. The media. If they don't talk to the media, then no one's going to watch the game.
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So the media is the one. Let's respect the biz here.
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Maybe he also put a scare into everyone being like, he will take your phone. He will rob you at any moment. We also had this league between Micah Parsons and Demarcus Lawrence because Demarcus Lawrence is on the Seahawks now. And he said on the way out, Dallas is my home, but I know for sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there.
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And then Micah Parsons quote to it said, this is what rejection and envy look like. This is some clown shit. And then Demarcus Lawrence replied, calling me a clown won't change the fact that I told the truth. Maybe if you spent less time tweeting and more time winning, I wouldn't have left. This league. This league. That's some good this league shit.
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Yeah. Maybe not the best of friends.
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Maybe not the best of friends.
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Oh, let's go.
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Well, it's like to consider them.
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Is future considerations like a grandkid?
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Yeah, we'll get to that. He knows ball. Yeah, we'll get to that. Yeah, good job. Oldie is back. Oldie, what were your impressions from the gambling cave today? Because this was your first time being around us in these high stakes situations.
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Yeah, that is weird.
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Yeah.
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The coldest examples of sports is a business. There has to be more to this story, right? His son probably asked for it.
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Yeah, maybe that is. Oh, yeah. Wait, wait. Utica is last in the AHL's North Division and 14th in the Eastern Conference. The Comets will not be making the playoffs, even in a league where 23 of 32 teams qualify for the postseason.
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Jackets affiliate.
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That's not what I was asking. Don't try to embarrass PFT. Wait, where's Torts right now? Don't try to. Don't try to. I think. Is he Flyers? Yeah. Yeah. He's wild. He's wild. Don't embarrass PFT. No, no. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. What do you think about him?
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You are. He's right. But it does stand to, if you look at the transcript, you just ask, what do you think about torts?
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And how's he doing his job in Philadelphia? He still gives it to the guys, too. Yeah, he does. Yeah, yeah. He's not afraid to tell them what's up. Yeah.
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Is Nasher part of the program, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so you got to ride with them hard. Hard.
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Max is struggling with the idea of tanking. He said that he can't watch the games.
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But he can watch on the... Yeah, you know why?
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Yeah.
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But you should be happy because the Bulls are going to make the 10th seed. They basically have sealed it up. It's insane that they're going to still be in this fucking play in game when they're so bad and they traded away Zach Levine and they're still going to like it's so stupid.
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Yeah.
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Wait, but that's after the lottery.
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Right.
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And he kind of belongs to us because of the whole tariff situation.
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No, if that is the case. If that is the case. If that is the case. The last thing I had was Virginia Tech, who lost on Tuesday, which feels like 10 years ago. We had one of the best quotes from a player ever. Virginia Tech's... Toby Lall on Virginia Tech exceeding expectations because they were 13 and 19 and they were bouncing the first round of the ACC tournament.
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He said they thought we were going to be ass. I mean, we were still ass, but, you know, we weren't that bad. Yeah, not a big ass.
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And we were, but we weren't as bad. Yeah. Suck it, haters. Yeah. Have that, haters. Who does Duke play?
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Yeah. That would be funny. Yeah. Yeah. We have some awesome games tomorrow. Oldie, you ready to strap it in and do it again?
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Oh, you want some food? Oh, sure. No problem.
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See you later.
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No problem. You do seem like you're a little thirsty. Do you have a body armor flash IV with you?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Oh, Wrigley. Yeah. Yeah. It was awesome. Yeah, you were going putting in your breaths at DraftKings.
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Yeah.
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It looks like ooze. It's got to be a band, color band or something. Yeah. I'm going to call a 20-second timeout real quick.
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Don't jump in the river.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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There you go.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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What's the link to Jeff Saturday?
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That's why we came down. And you just love him.
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That's a great story.
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Have people recognized you since you came a few weeks ago?
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Yeah. Yanzi's the best. He's the best.
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There was tempers at some points during the day. Oh, it's good. Did you like that? Oh, I love that. Should we play the Max video? We should probably play the Max video. He said that his mom's going to get mad. Well, she probably already saw it, so what are you going to do? I mean, it was an all-time rant, but this is what March... March is gambling with your friends, but also just losing it.
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Yeah. Butte, I'm coming in for the boys. He nailed it. He called me and said, I got a guy for you. And I was just like, okay. He's like, you got to just do it. All right. Let's do it.
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Yeah. He already tried to move his flight. When's your flight back? Sunday. But I was like, you might have to stay till Monday. And he's like, but if I stay till Monday, shouldn't I just stay for the whole next weekend? That's what I mean, right?
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You might have to stay for another day.
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Yeah.
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Cheering on my team. Big time. All right, Oldie, send us into Bill Raftery with a little, what do you got in your hand there?
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The combo. That's a memorable combo. A single combo.
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And I'll say this in Max's defense. Everything that you're about to hear him say was all fair play because it was all in the confines of the gambling cave in March where you can say the most vicious things to your friends, and it doesn't count. Yes, between the lines. It does not count. It should not count. You can act however you want to act. It should not count.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. He is a legend of the game, one of our all-time favorites. It is Bill Raftery. You're going to hear him. He is March. We're going to hear him all March. Bill, Raft, can I call you Raft? Sure. All right, so Raft, thank you for joining us. It's awesome to talk to you. We're getting into the best time of year.
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What's it feel like in the Raftery house when we get to March and you're like, all right, here we go. This is it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I love it. So, I mean, you've been doing this for so long. And like I said, you are like one of those announcers that it just feels right when it's March and I'm hearing you on the call. I have a question about your career and your famous onions call. I want to get into all your calls. But do you remember your first onions? Do you remember the first time you did it and how it came to you?
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Yeah, and it is a great call that some of the most iconic moments, you can hear onions in your head. Do you have a bar for double order? Do you have an internal... All right, can't do it too early. Can't do it too early in the game. It's got to be later in the game.
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It also is a nice refresher that for anyone who thought if Max, when Max wins the Super Bowl, he's not going to still be Max. He's still Max. He's still Max. He's still Max. Okay, here it is. This is after the end of the Villanova game, which we'll get to. And our friend Rico Bosco said, well, Max, at least I... He bet you, Connie, he's like, at least I didn't rub it in your face.
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It's the best.
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It's fantastic. Yeah, it does. It just goes in your sports brain. You just have these things that just rattle around. And we had Mike Breen on last year and talking about the beginning of yelling bang and double bangs. And they're just, as sports fans, this is how we consume the games. And when I think onions, it's like, oh, it must be March. It must be a big shot. And Raph's on the call.
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What about a favorite player or a player that you can look back and like, I just loved calling his games because the way, the style of play, or the moments that he stepped up to?
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And Max then said this.
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Are you still hitting last call?
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Yeah, we saw the story went viral last week of Ian Eagle saying that you once came out of a bar after last call with eight beers in your trench coat for everyone. Can you confirm that? I hope it was more like he got it wrong, it was a dozen beers.
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That's fantastic. Yeah, I mean, I read a profile about you that, you know, your move sometimes would be just go to a bar, and then you'd buy, you know, 20 beers, have them out on the table. If someone came and said hello to you, they have to have a beer with you. I mean, that's a legendary move.
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That sounded like, you know when in Hollywood there'll be... He's playing it again.
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Yeah, if Raph's been here, then it's going to be good.
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It's one of those TMZ reports, Christian Bale caught on live mic, freaking out. One of those where David O. Russell screams at the whole... I can't even talk right now. The lighting crew. Yeah, the lighting crew. Quit freaking out on the behind the scenes guys, Max. But that was fun. All right.
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If you had to pick one of your, maybe do your top three, it could be any city, top three places that you go to when you're on the road.
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I honestly, because we watched so much Hoops today, I was going to just literally scroll the scores and just anything we wanted to talk about, any games we wanted to shout out. And the first one is Cooper Flagg's turned ankle.
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Yeah, that's another great one. Good picks, yeah. This is going to be weird for me to ask you. Do you have anywhere in the country that has Bill Raftery Day? Is there any towns or anything that have Bill Raftery Day?
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Okay, all right. That's fair. That's fair. Are you okay? Because I found an old tweet of mine. It was from April 3rd, 2021. I said, We don't appreciate Raftery enough. Someone set a calendar reminder for August 17th to respect Raftery more. So are you okay if, as a podcast, our show, if we make August 17th the official Bill Raftery day on part of my take? Are you okay with that?
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Yeah, we're going to need a float. We're going to need a whole meal. Yeah, so you will have to pay a little bit. But yeah, are you okay with us making it? Maybe you'll come back on the show August 17th, Bill Raftery Day.
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So that's official. I don't think we've ever had a holiday on this show.
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Yeah. See, maybe we'll get a metal detector. See how many beers we can get through a metal detector. That would be fun. That would be very fun.
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Bill Raftery, Conference Championship Thursday, Oldie Is Back With The Boys + Fyre Fest Of The Week
So I have a doctor on staff, Dr. Dan. He's also a Duke fan. He said that probably out for the ACC tournament, March Madness. He wouldn't be surprised if they sit him out the first game because they'll win anyway. And then probably a Toradol shot, steroid shot, wrap him up. He could probably go in the second round if needed.
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Yeah, it is. It's true. You make sports fun. And I think that when we tune in, we want to be it's entertainment at the end of the day. That's a lot of what our show is, is like, you know, we know that we can't take ourselves too seriously. Sports supposed to be fun and you do a great job of making it fun.
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They could. I don't know. And Malik Brown got hurt too, separated his shoulder. I think he's going to be out for the year. And he's not like their star player, but he was a key piece.
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I do love whenever they come out and zone and you give them the 2-3 zone with man-to-man principles. Yeah, that was behind. Yeah, you had to throw them off. Yeah, you can't steal that from me.
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His foot is going to just be the size of a softball with very black and blue. But the wheelchair. That was a tough look. That was a dupe look. He might have just shat himself.
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Yeah, yeah. Our producer's a big Villanova fan, and he texted us when you came on. He just said, Chris Jenkins, how about those onions is forever ringing in his head. So, I mean, that had to have been a thrill. I mean, having a buzzer beater to win a national title is an all-time moment.
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This is why I wish... Better safe than sorry. I wish players could stay longer. And I know that it wouldn't matter because he's just a freshman, but... When Cooper Flag got hurt today, if that were Grayson Allen or any other Duke players that I hated, I would have reveled in it. I didn't really feel anything because I kind of feel bad for Cooper Flag. He's an awesome player to watch.
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I hate Duke, but I wanted to have more hate, and I didn't have it. Well, I don't think he's that hateable of a guy.
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Uh,
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Yeah. So wait, does he have it? Does he have the picture or no? No, no. Oh, wow.
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Yeah, because the legend goes that he has a picture of the way he wants toast toasted in his wallet, and he'll pull it out. And he's actually said it, so he might just be getting a prank on everyone that he pulls it out and shows the waiter or waitress being like, this is what I want.
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Okay.
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Yeah, because he told the story on Dan Patrick, so I like – Yeah, he's become part of the Jim Nance legend and giving away the tie. Yeah. Do you ever consult with him about the tie when he was about to give away the tie?
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Because he's not there. He's not there.
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Bill Raftery, Conference Championship Thursday, Oldie Is Back With The Boys + Fyre Fest Of The Week
couple more years you know he'd start kicking guys in the ball yes that would be very funny we'd see him cry in the march madness tournament yes we'd get the hate they're just so it's so transactional they're in and out that i just don't even have it for him i agree if this was a mick roberts if this was a plumley yeah we'd be like shout out our guy also now but he's no longer duke yeah so we like him
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Do you have a team that you've watched and you're like, this team's going to win it all? I know you're not in the predictions business, but do you have a team you're like, that team has everything?
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Bill Raftery, Conference Championship Thursday, Oldie Is Back With The Boys + Fyre Fest Of The Week
On today's part of my take, we have the legendary Bill Raftery. Great interview with him talking about his career, March Madness, some of the awesome stories from the road. Kind of a bucket list interview because he is someone that we just is synonymous with March and all the big moments. We are going to talk about some college basketball. Incredible day of hoops.
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Yeah.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah. Yeah, they're keeping it from us. Well, Raft, thank you so much. Thank you, guys. I appreciate it. Yeah, we look forward to August 17th. It's going to be Bill Raftery Day.
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Yeah, that would be perfect.
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We look forward to hearing from you all March. You got it. Have fun.
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Bill Raftery, Conference Championship Thursday, Oldie Is Back With The Boys + Fyre Fest Of The Week
All right, let's wrap up. We got fire fest of the week. Henry? Yeah. Oh, your mic's off. Your mic's off. Memes is sabotaging you. Oh, no. Memes doesn't want you to have your mic on. Yeah. That was bad producing by Oldie there. Mm-hmm. Oldie, you got to do a better job of getting Hank's mic on. Dude, you got to get him on line one right away.
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I guess there's technically another one that would be right there. Wow. Oldie knows more about our show, how to produce our show, than we do.
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Okay, there we go.
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Wait, what happened with the deuce? I flushed it like last night. Oh, no.
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The water being shut off, that's such a... And I wanted to shower so bad. Yeah. Because I remember in my old apartment in Brooklyn, they would shut off the water, I don't know, like twice a year. And when they did it, it would be like, how is this possible? How could you shut this water off? I'd go buy a bunch of water. They're like, got to get ready.
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It's like, yeah, there's no water for four hours, dude. You can handle this.
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Did you try to turn on the shower?
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Yeah, and you get the air coming out? That's what you get for working out.
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Also, you could have a chance to play with Wemby because I don't know if you guys saw, but who got hurt today? Fox. Yeah, Fox. He's having pinky surgery, which just reads, we're trying to tank.
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Yeah.
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You know you could just by filling out the card however you wanted to. That's true. I'll break 85 first round. Thanks, man of honor. I guarantee I shoot 84 first round out this year.
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I'm sure that will come soon. I'm sure you'll be like, hey, we got this awesome sponsor, and I was thinking maybe we play golf.
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I do have fun when I go out.
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It was, if you're going to be in that creator classic and what was the prize?
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yeah just cut it off we're tanking this whole thing pinky surgery all right so that was duke duke survived but i want to see cooper flag in the tournament that would suck if he i agree misses extended time uh but the wheelchair was the story uh st john's rolled good job rick patino uh byu is a shocker i know that wasn't like uh you know they're they're a very good team but they were underdogs and iowa state was having a good season so byu the mormons we also
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Okay, so if you can't win, you know how the old Ricky Bobby, if you're not first, you're last? Listen, in that type of setting, if you're not first, be really, really last because everyone will remember it. And he had the most memorable performance. And it's literally the creator classic. Yeah, it was incredible. So he created the best content.
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The guy Grant Horvat, he's not a professional golfer? No. No. His name is a professional golfer. You're thinking there's a guy named Horvath, isn't there?
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When I saw it, I was just like, wait a second. How's this guy in this? He should be a professional golfer. That's a professional golfer's name. I agree. He's a great golfer. If you see Grant Horvat, he's 12th in the FedEx Cup standings. I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.
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He was really good, but I couldn't believe that. And he looks like a professional golfer. He should be a professional golfer. I don't know if his game's there, but he checks the look and the name. Professional golfer.
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Well, we'll be on Hank's back next year. There's something brewing. Yes, yes. This is a problem, PFD. I don't think you were here for this conversation. Max, for some reason, is pushing for him to be in the Creator Classic. And I said, well, then he has to practice a ton. And Max was like, but that would be great. He could practice more. I think Hank paid off Max.
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Yeah, there's something.
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You just saying, Hank, I want you to golf more. Either that or he's trying to push you out.
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Why couldn't we get you in the Creator Classic? I know we're not a golf channel, but we're the number one sports podcast. We can't be like, hey, this guy should be in it. I doubt it. I bet you we can. PFT should do it. Next year, we're getting Hank. Also, I'm now putting it all together. Max wants your seat because now he has Oldie, who knows the one through sevens on the mic. This was yesterday.
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Yeah.
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What does time moving quickly have to do with it?
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That's true. You know what I mean? That's right.
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they were what three and a half point underdogs yeah i'm gonna get you ready for a storyline pft when selection sunday we're gonna have to do the whole discussion of uh where byu gets seated did they get screwed because they can't play on sunday yeah yeah so they have to move them around yeah yeah so did they lose a seed because they had to fit them in somewhere they shouldn't have been uh that would be fun yeah also minutes just play on sundays yeah play on sundays
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I'll tell you what, it's even worse when you have kids because it doubles where my son has asked me, did you play with him? He'll meet a hockey player or NBA player and be like, did you play with him? I'm like, no, I did not. I did not play with him. I did not play professional sports. That's not what yet.
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I remember when I first took him to a Blackhawks game last year and he got to meet Wayne Gretzky. And then I told him he was the best hockey player of all time. He has the most goals soon to be Ovi. He asked me, he's like, how many goals did you score in the NHL?
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How would you answer that question? When was the last time you could dunk? Would you say I almost dunked once?
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I haven't peaked yet.
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I just have a trampoline in my backyard. Yeah, little basketball hoops all the time.
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We'll send Oldie as a correspondent. Yeah, Oldie as our correspondent. Oh, man. The side pouches out on the beach.
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We might have to send him as our international correspondent. Because you are international.
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My only concern with sending Oldie is he would make it fun. And I think people would be like, that was an awesome time because there was this Canadian dude that was making everyone go balls to the wall.
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Just go to hell.
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Fuck yeah.
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Also, God is definitely a March Madness fan. So yeah, he'd be fine with it. Amen. Amen. Thank you. The Texas Texas A&M game was insane. Yeah. Double overtime back and forth. Those two teams don't like each other.
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Where is it?
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Okay, well, to be continued. All right, my Fyre Fest is just the... it's an age one. I don't know. We, we are two days into like true March madness conference tournament week. I, there's nothing worse that I woke up this morning, uh, feeling like absolute dog shit. And it was not like sick, tired. And then I had the moment of, what did you do yesterday?
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Oh, yeah, you sat on a couch and watched TV all day. And it's the most pathetic feeling ever to be like, I'm mentally and physically wiped from watching basketball.
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Oh, remember the the ad machine I put on for a podcast once? Maybe we get those. I mean, we should we should try to get some workouts in because, yeah, it was it's just it's we're two days in and I'm already feeling and I know I'll be fine because this is my favorite time of the year, but it's just like.
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It's absolutely pathetic that sitting and watching basketball can mentally and physically drain me that way.
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And I've got to fight against you every day. Yeah. Tooth and nail. Hank, by the way, faded me when I lost. And then yesterday I won and he didn't fade me. Isn't that weird? You didn't fade him yesterday? Yeah, but isn't that weird that it was the day I won? Yeah.
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He really is a commenter who's just like halfway through a game like bad bet.
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But you said you were going to fade me, and then I won.
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Hop in.
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Got it. Got it. But it's just interesting. Like, the day I lose, you faded me. The day I won, you didn't. Yeah, good luck. You're like Jim Cramer. You're good at timing the market.
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Yeah. All right, Oldie, your Fyre Fest.
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Wait, there was mosquitoes on the plane? Yeah. They must be so confused.
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Yes, I would say so, to put it lightly.
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This is going to be a while to figure out a rhyme.
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You looked at me like I'm in the airline. No, I'm just kidding.
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Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. My Badgers beat with Northwestern, needed that just for some mojo. Klezmitz back, so it feels good. Yeah, we did. Also, Indiana, yeah. Oldie was a Badger fan and Villanova fan today, so he went one and one. He's wearing the Villanova shirt right now. Right now. But you got to get the Badger stuff back on tomorrow. Oh, yeah. I'm ready to go. Big tilt against UCLA.
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All right, well, so no bugs, but good trip.
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Good trip. I'm glad I'm here. This is awesome. This is great. Yeah, tune into the streams. Oldie will be watching college basketball with us.
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How's the snow situation in Canada right now? Starting to melt. Nice. Starting to melt. Do you get a little sad, though, because that means the plow's going away for the season?
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You'll be able to get that Audi out.
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Hank drives an Audi.
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Okay, that's a chick car.
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17.
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99 pug. Good odds. Someone's going to get it. A lot of them.
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It's Lil' Jackie until he proves he's the man. Yeah. Until he fights Shane. Correct.
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42. 42. Jackie Robinson. Love you guys.
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Top of my backpack. Ready to go. All right. Rock and roll tomorrow. Also, Indiana might be out of the tournament now. I don't know if you saw that.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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God damn it.
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Joe Lenardi also is probably napping right now. So, all right, I'm trying to look to see if he updated it anywhere. Does he not do a live bracketology update?
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And we have our good friend Oldie back in studio sitting next to Max. So we're going to have some good vibes as well. And it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. Who's scoring big in the NBA this season? You are with the all-new ways to get in on the action at DraftKings Sportsbook and official sports betting partner, the NBA.
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Well, I know he writes an article, too, but it doesn't... Like, this... It should be out... There should be updates every second. It's ridiculous. Max, don't you agree?
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Wait, what's today's date? Oh, he did update it at 6 o'clock. My bad. Whoops. Sorry, Joe Linardi. He did update it. All right, last four in right now are San Diego State, Xavier, North Carolina, Texas. First four out are Indiana, Ohio State, Boise State, Colorado State. Next four out, Dayton, UC Irvine, Wake Forest, Villanova.
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We'll get to that in a little bit. Yeah, we'll get to that in a minute. We'll get to that in a minute. All right. Oh, Marquette Xavier was an incredible game too. Xavier totally blew it at the end, although Marquette was just hitting every shot. And then Xavier with the shot of the day in terms of covering with a half court bank shot to cover two and a half. That's what March is about.
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It didn't mean anything for the game, but it meant a lot. It meant a lot.
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Shaboom.
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I was still fired up. Oh, we had two buzzer beaters, too. Or we might have had more. But Ole Miss, buzzer beater on Arkansas. And then Chucky Hepburn and Louisville, buzzer beater on Stanford.
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Yeah, the ball was just flying around, and he got it. And perfect shot at the end. That was awesome.
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Oh, we got the Kentucky. Oh, that overdone. Sorry. PFT. It's okay.
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DePaul with almost the upset of the day that they just fought their asses off but we knew it they just couldn't survive double overtime if you're buying stock in any program right now I feel like you could do worse than DePaul yeah if Chris Holtman stays yeah now if he leaves then I guess that's the risk that you take but this is a great penny stock this is a great shit coin to invest in yes we should actually make Holtman shit coins someone probably already did
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I also want to give a special shout out to Middle Tennessee because I watched every second of that game. Absolute war. I don't know if I've ever seen that where Middle Tennessee hit a buzzer beater to end the game, but he got the shot off in time for it to be a buzzer beater, but it was late on the shot clock violation.
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They started the possession with 31 seconds left, and he got it off for a buzzer beater, but it was shot clock violation.
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Bill Raftery, Conference Championship Thursday, Oldie Is Back With The Boys + Fyre Fest Of The Week
Yes.
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Bill Raftery, Conference Championship Thursday, Oldie Is Back With The Boys + Fyre Fest Of The Week
Absolutely. There's been, like, good basket. We're just going to go just pretend it didn't happen. Also, Arizona looked good against Kansas. Kansas is just broken. They're not going to be. That's going to be one of those ones where they're going to be a five or six and everyone's going to say, oh, my God, down goes Kansas.
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Bill Raftery, Conference Championship Thursday, Oldie Is Back With The Boys + Fyre Fest Of The Week
It might be a six. I got to see where they are. Let me see bracketology. I kind of hope they're a five seed already is. Because they've fallen down the stretch. Let's see.
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We Finally Finish Our Previous Dungeons and Dragons Campaign With Timm Woods And Nick Turani
15.
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We Finally Finish Our Previous Dungeons and Dragons Campaign With Timm Woods And Nick Turani
And so, Greg, that's going to bring us to the next question.
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We Finally Finish Our Previous Dungeons and Dragons Campaign With Timm Woods And Nick Turani
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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We Finally Finish Our Previous Dungeons and Dragons Campaign With Timm Woods And Nick Turani
100%.
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We Finally Finish Our Previous Dungeons and Dragons Campaign With Timm Woods And Nick Turani
18.
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We Finally Finish Our Previous Dungeons and Dragons Campaign With Timm Woods And Nick Turani
11.
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We Finally Finish Our Previous Dungeons and Dragons Campaign With Timm Woods And Nick Turani
11.
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We Finally Finish Our Previous Dungeons and Dragons Campaign With Timm Woods And Nick Turani
18.
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We Finally Finish Our Previous Dungeons and Dragons Campaign With Timm Woods And Nick Turani
Oh, no! But I'm also part troll. And see...
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Hey, everybody, and welcome back to The Messy Podcast. If you want to skip the ads and get right into the good stuff, you can sign up to be a premium member on Apple Podcasts. Or you can also head over to our website at themessypodcast.com. We're still in the thick of it with Season 1 Foundations of the Let Them Theory.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It's a transformational experience.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
And, you know, we truly believe that everyone has that power within them.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
And, you know, one of the things I'm most excited about is seeing how this movement grows and evolves in the years to come.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I think Let Them Let Me has the potential to create a ripple effect of positive change in the world.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Exactly.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I love that vision.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
And, you know, as we wrap up this part of our deep dive, I want to remind our listeners that let them let me is a journey, not a destination.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
We'll be right back after this quick break. All right. We're back. Let's continue. There will be times when we stumble. We fall back into old patterns. We feel frustrated or discouraged.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It is. And that's, let me, the often overlooked second step that transforms detachment into empowerment.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
And to remember that we're not alone on this journey.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
We have each other. We have this amazing community. And we have all the resources that we need to succeed.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
We do. So let's go out there and create a world filled with empowered action takers, one let me at a time.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
And we'll be right back after a short break with even more inspiring insights and practical tools on the Messy Podcast. We're back for the final part of our deep diving to Let Them Let Me.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It really has. It's amazing how much we've unpacked in such a short time.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
We explore the science.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
We talked about taking ownership. Our power. And we even walked through some of those real life scenarios.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yes, from those micromanaging bosses to those well-meaning but oh-so-judgmental relatives.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
But now it's time to bring it all home.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Exactly. And, you know, as we've been talking, I keep coming back to that profound question from Mary Oliver.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
What is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It's such a powerful reminder that we're not just passive passengers on this journey. We have the power to choose our course, navigate the storms, create a life that feels meaningful and fulfilling.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
We really do. And Let Them Let Me is like a compass and a map all rolled into one.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It is. It helps us detach from the things that drain our energy and focus on what truly matters.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Exactly. So as we trap up this deep dive, I want to leave our listeners with this question.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
What will you do with your one wild and precious power to let me?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
What dreams have you been putting on hold? What changes have you been longing to make? What steps can you take starting today to create the life you truly desire?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Exactly. It's time to stop letting fear, doubt, or other people's opinions hold us back.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yes. So, dear listeners, I encourage you to embrace the messiness. Take those bold steps and let your light shine.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah. What can I do for me?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
And remember, you don't have to do it alone. We have a thriving community over at TheMessyPodcast.com filled with amazing people who are on this journey with you.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
We've got workbooks, guided meditations, and a full list of all the inspiring books we've covered.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Exactly. And this isn't just some, you know, feel good mantra or whatever.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Plus, you can connect with other listeners, share your Let Me Wins, and find support every step of the way.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
So head over to TheMessyPodcast.com and let's continue this conversation together. Until next time, keep embracing the mess, keep choosing empowerment, and keep letting your Let Me Flag fly.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Let me has a real impact on our brain.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I mean, think about it. When we're constantly stressed or feeling overlooked or dealing with difficult people, our brain's alarm system goes into overdrive.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It is. It's like, oh, my God, we got to get out of here. Right, it's like fight or flight.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
You know, our ancestors needed that to survive Sabertooth Tiger.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It's a little different. Those tigers are more likely to be a demanding boss or just a never ending to do list.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
So we get stuck in this chronic state of stress.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I mean, who can think clearly when their brain is just flooded with adrenaline and cortisol all the time?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
So this is where it gets really interesting. This is called amygdala hijack.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
We are, and today we're diving into Episode 3.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Have you heard of this?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
So tell us a little bit about it.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Very fancy.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It's like, goodbye. You're done. I'm out of here. See? So how does let me fit into all of this? Does it like magically calm the amygdala?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah. Let them plus let me.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Oh, I like that.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It can finally do its job.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay, so let them creates distance from that initial stressor.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
The two step power move.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
And let me helps us regain control and actually move forward.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It's a one-two punch.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It is a powerful combo.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
So how do we actually put this two-step power move into practice? Because it sounds great in theory, but what does it actually look like in real life?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
And, you know, let them is something we hear about all the time.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
You do have a choice.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay. I'm ready.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Well, we talked about, you know, the Friends of the Girls trip. So let them have their fun, I guess. Yeah. Or like let them gossip if you're dealing with, you know, the rumor mill at work.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Oh, that's a good one.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay. But that almost feels like giving up, doesn't it?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
For good reason, because it could be so helpful in navigating those tricky situations that we all find ourselves in sometimes.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Ooh, which is?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
This is where it gets good.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay, tell me more.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Oh, I like that.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Ooh, that's a good one.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
To advance my own goals.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Oh, yes, we all have them.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
At least one. So what do we do with them?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yep.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yes, I love it.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
You do deserve it. Hang tight. We'll be back right after this short break.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right. Get out of the chaos.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Thanks for waiting. Let's pick up where we left off. Now, I know what you're thinking. This all sounds great. But making that leap from let them to let me can be so daunting.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right. It's like a mental hurdle to get over.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
five seconds to a calmer, more empowered me.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I am intrigued. Tell me more.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
But sometimes it's just the beginning. Yeah. Like you detach.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay. I can do that. What happened the next?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Maybe it's like a mini mental reset.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Like just creating that little pause between the trigger and the reaction.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yes. I like it.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay, let's do it.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right. What happens when that initial let them leaves you feeling kind of empty or even stuck?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Ooh, I could feel my blood pressure rising already.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Let them stress out. I can't control their need to micromanage.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay, let me create a really detailed project plan with clear deadlines and proactively keep my boss updated. That way they might feel less of a need to micromanage.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yes.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Oh, that's good.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay, I'm starting to see how this works. Let's try another one.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
What about a family gathering with those relatives who always have something to say about your life choices?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
A classic.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It is. So what's my, let them. What do you think? Let them judge. I mean, they're going to do it anyway, but let me steer the conversation towards neutral topics.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Or excuse myself for a break when things get too intense.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
That's important.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
No.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
That is so empowering. I'm like finally taking charge of my own experiences instead of letting other people dictate how I feel.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I am.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah. And I've been there myself. I mean, picture this. You're scrolling through social media and bam, there they are, your friends living it up on a girl's trip.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah, just a little bit easier.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I hate when that happens.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Let them be responsible, I guess. But let me calmly and politely remind them of the leash rules. Or if it's a recurring issue, let me report it to the park authorities.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
This has been such an eye-opening deep dive into Let Them Let Me.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It is. It's like a whole new way of looking at challenging situations.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I'm already starting to see how I can shift from feeling helpless to feeling empowered. I'm actually excited to put this into practice.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
And for our listeners who are feeling the same way, we'll be back with even more insights and practical tools in the next part of our deep dive.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
So stay tuned, and we'll be right back.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
You know, as we're talking about this, I'm realizing that Let Them Let Me isn't just about dealing with difficult people. It's really about taking control of our own lives, no matter what challenges come our way.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
A trip that you weren't invited to.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Or?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right. It's that choice between empowerment and helplessness.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It's like a gut punch, right? You try to let them have their fun, but it's hard to shake that feeling of being left out. You start overthinking everything, wondering what you did wrong.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
This reminds me of that quote you shared in your book from Mary Oliver.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It's so powerful.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It's like a reminder that we're not just passive bystanders.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
We do. And Let Me is about tapping into that power.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It's about asking ourselves, what do I truly want? What kind of life do I want to create? And what steps can I take starting today to make that happen?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I love that. So for our listeners who are ready to embrace their let me power, what's one small step they can take today to start putting this into practice?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Like when that coworker takes credit for your brilliant idea yet again.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay. How do we do that?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I like that, turning that frustration into a catalyst for positive change.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right, like what's going on?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Small, consistent actions.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Just little things to take care of ourselves.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I love that. And, you know, one of the most rewarding things I've found about What Them Let Me is that it can actually help us build healthier relationships.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Because when we're constantly trying to control other people or change their behavior.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It just creates tension and resentment.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
A quick break for our sponsor and we'll be right back.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Exactly.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
All right. We're back. Let's continue. It really does. It's like we're trying to force them into a box that we've created.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
No one wants to be in a box.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It creates space for genuine connection.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I love that this makes me think about a listener who wrote in recently about a toxic friendship.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
She was constantly feeling drained and taken advantage of, but she felt so guilty about setting boundaries.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It is.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
And it doesn't have to be that way. Sure.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
That makes sense. So in this case, what did you advise her to do?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It's like checking in with your inner compass.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Right.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Just simple things.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Yeah.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It's like a ripple effect.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Okay, before we get too deep into that, let's pause for a moment to hear from our sponsor.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
This is so inspiring. I feel like I'm finally starting to understand the true power of let them let me. Yeah. It's not just a coping mechanism. It's really a framework for living a more empowered and fulfilling life.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Oh, yeah.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It's like we're constantly refining our let them and our let me learning and growing along the way.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
The messy beauty of it all. I love that. So for our listeners who are feeling inspired to embrace their Let Me Power, what are some resources or tools that you recommend?
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
It's like a treasure trove.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
And we're constantly adding new content.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Thanks for listening to that. Let's jump back into it. And that's where I think this episode gets really interesting because we're not going to dwell in that hurt. We're talking about what comes next.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
So be sure to check back often.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Oh, yeah.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I love that it's like a virtual support group.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
I love it. And for those who are ready to take their let me to the next level. Tell us about the course.
The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
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The Let Them Theory | The Messy Podcast
S1 EP3 | Let Them + Let Me – The Two-Step Power Move | The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
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The Ramsey Show
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The Echoes of Moon River. Another shout out to Brandon, by the way.
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Come on out, Kara. Welcome, lovely. Kara, would you please tell everyone where they could listen to you?
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We're going to change that, okay? We're going to move that podcast up. Moving up! Because everyone here is going to subscribe, and everyone watching at home on Kiswee will subscribe, too.
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All right. So, Kara, we have a really fun category. Love it. And we cannot wait to hear you weigh in on all of these. Should we just get started with them?
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This is Best Fight. Best Fight. Will you read the first one, please?
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All right. Oh, one of our guests in attendance, Dolores doesn't like that Jackie called her a slob. Slob. Slob. Really? Slob.
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I think that was the best fight because it was both intense but also hilarious the entire time. It wasn't very serious. I support that one.
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All right. Now it is time to reveal the winner of the best fight. Thank you.
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stop it no ronnie okay okay no but like let's not let's not overlook all the contributions that ronnie carroll makes look look so much i'm giving you a compliment like i don't want you to start complimenting me now because i just gave you a compliment that's weird but i want to give you a compliment no because that's like a youtube ronnie to you no i like i want my own segment
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I think I'm entitled to give you a compliment.
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Well, I guess if that's how you really feel, then that's how you really feel, but I just think you're doing a good job.
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Okay, well, we are gonna talk about best scandal with you. Speaking of scandals, okay, this is the chaotic thing. We'll just put that right over there. This is the part of the show where our desk looks like we're at a news desk in 1950. We're like, okay. All right.
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And by the way, thank you to Ariana Maddox for giving us that little video message.
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I swear, there's nothing like watching Ronnie doing the Ronnie thing. Am I right, everyone? That was amazing. That was amazing. It was amazing. Okay, all right. So that was, okay. Now it's time to talk about villains. So let's bring out from Betches, Dylan Hafer. Dylan, come on out.
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All right, Dylan. Well, we're so happy to have you here. I have a question. This has actually nothing to do with villains. Well, maybe it does. I don't know. Did you work at Betches when Paige and Hannah were working there? You know, I did. You did? I did. And how was that?
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Yes, I agree. Team Paige all the way. Yeah, we're with you on that. So we brought you out here because we felt like you were particularly equipped because you have a razor sharp sense of humor and you also have a good perception of the world to talk about best villain in the past year of Bravo. So shall we get to the nominees? Let's do it. All right. Why don't you start us off with the first one?
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Also from the Real Housewives of Orange County, Tamara Judge.
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And here's a fun one. Whitney Levitt from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Let's get some Hulu representation here.
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I can only see so many Diet Cokes get assaulted with, like, Coffee Mate. And Mountain Dew Spritz.
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Miss Sadie. Glorious and prestigious award. Little Miss Golden Crappies. Thank you.
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It's almost like makes me not want to go see the band Arizona.
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A partnership. It's about, like, how I feel and how you make me feel.
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I know. Finally, a good use for AI. Hi, I'm AI. OK.
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She was lit. She was lit. I have to say, you know, we haven't really been, we've been so excited, we haven't weighed in on a lot, but I feel like it's important to weigh in right now. I don't know if this is the biggest scandal, but I have to say my favorite scandal is definitely Countess Luanjo Bradley and Danielle. Oh!
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Okay. So, oh, this is fun. Well, you know what? There's always exciting moments on Bravo, and there's always scandalous moments. So to help us talk about best scandal, please welcome YouTuber extraordinaire Kempire. Kempire!
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We'll put this up. She's great. It was a very close race. Just because she hasn't sent in the video, she won fair and square, and it's amazing.
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We got one more nominee for best show of the year, though. So now, a scene from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
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Ah, pesos. Okay, this is a text message from Bronwyn, and it is the most hurtful thing that anyone has ever written about me.
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It says, I booked Lisa Barlow a ticket in coach.
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OK. Hold on. OK. This is what Heather wrote about me. OK. You guys ready? OK. OK. Here's the text. Huh?
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Kempire. Everyone go listen and subscribe to Kempire. Go see his live shows.
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Um, prism? No? Wait. Oh. You exploited my vagina. And scene.
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And now it is time, the highest honor of the year, best show of the year, as voted by everyone in the audience.
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For a wonderful evening of celebration. Thank you to our wonderful pianist, Brandon. Our director, Mark, who saved the slideshow. And to all of you and to everyone at home watching on Kiswe, thank you so much for coming tonight. And get home safely. We love you guys. We love you.
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Watch what crappins would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King. Our way is the Amber way. It's the Foster and the Furious. It's Amanda Foster. It's always automatic with Ashley Otto.
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Put your hands together for Carly Clapp. Catherine DiBernardo has our heart-o.
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Knock, knock, knocking on Katie Mannock's door. She's our favorite streamer, Caroline Peacock.
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Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman. Let's share with Sharon Eldridge.
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Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall. Know your worth with Jason Kerr. We got our wish, it's Jen Plish. She's not harsh, she's Jill Hirsch. She's a little bit loony, Junie. My favorite Murdo, Karen McMurdo. We love him madly, it's Kyle Pod Shadley. We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Barron. She's a whiz, it's Liz Sarthy. Always killing it, it's Lola Alcalani.
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Give him hell, Miss Noelle. She's the Queen Bee, it's Sarah Lemke. Shannon, out of a can in Anthony. Let's take off with Tamla Plain.
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She like wasn't feeling like good like in the car like guys like.
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If you keep crying, like, Jody's going to, like, leave you, like.
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Why is she throwing chicken at poor people dogs? I grew up poor.
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Oh, my God, dead baby dolls hanging from the tree. Look.
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Guys, please don't make me go on that. Please don't get me on the island of the creepy dolls, please.
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And scene. You know, I have to say one of the great honors of my life was pretending to throw up on a gondola ride in front of my parents.
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And also, to all the plus ones who were dragged to this show tonight, everything we just said, that happened. That happened. That all happened.
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All right, everyone. Sit back. You may have heard about this next person, and the person who may have told you about her was Serena from Tenafly. Ladies and gentlemen, Margaret Josephs.
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We are so happy to have you back here at Town Hall. Last time we did a show here, you came, which was so generous. And this time, you brought Joe.
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And by the way, a shout-out that Paul was here with Dolores, too.
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So what's been going on with you? Have you been to Jersey Mike's lately?
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I, this is, I can only imagine Jennifer Aiden as Oprah. You get a tuna sandwich.
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Well, I don't know what's going on with New Jersey, but of course I want you and Dolores back.
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Who would you rather see on the reboot, Jennifer Aiden or Laura?
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Okay, well, honestly, you have been a lightning rod in so many group scenes, so we thought it would be best if you came out here for the category of best group scene.
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All right, next up we've got Meredith's Bat Mitzvah.
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What was the episode? You were on one of the Real Housewives, right? They pulled a clip of you talking.
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Would you ever go on The Traitors if they invited you?
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You know what? The last person that we asked that question to on the crappies was MJ.
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Okay, let's find out the winner of her best group scene. Do you have any here that seem good for you?
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It's our dream. You know, one thing that one benchmark that we haven't really hit is that we have not ever really had the pull quote that comes up at the reunion that says, watch what crap ends. I'm shocked. I know, but we can dare to dream. But you have had an impact on these shows. You've been on them. They pulled your videos. Yeah, I'm still blocked by Andy.
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An all-time classic episode. Ladies and gentlemen, give a warm hand for Mark and Joseph. Who would accept this on behalf of Meredith Marks?
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Codependence: How to Stop Controlling Others with Melody Beattie (Best Of)
I'll take over there. When I was in my early 20s, Codependent No More was probably the most transformative and important book. Melody, we love you, and we hope you are on your journey. We love you, PodSquad.
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And so if you do love yourself as much as you're loving others, then are you free of codependency? Because I read your book over 20 years ago. And one of the things that I have always struggled with is, Mm-hmm. equally and sometimes more than other people, but I do still exhibit similar behaviors that I did then. Am I still codependent now? Do you heal from this travesty? What of being human?
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Being codependent because I don't know the difference between codependency and love. Like, like that is my big question. Like marriage and, and my children, um, Raising children feels like a big pile of codependency.
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Thank you, Melody. Okay, this makes me feel better.
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You just solved my life right there. I'm a Gemini too, Melody. Thank you for making me feel seen and heard. Thank you.
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Exactly.
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Yes.
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how do you approach the idea of every single day needing to surrender? Because there's so many of us, myself included, I want to do it once and be done with it. How do you approach feeling okay with the idea that every day you're Because it's not a forever finished done thing. It's like every time you get on a website and it says, do you accept the cookies?
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Codependence: How to Stop Controlling Others with Melody Beattie (Best Of)
Oh, that makes me feel better.
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Codependence: How to Stop Controlling Others with Melody Beattie (Best Of)
I mean, on behalf of my 20-year-old self, I'm now 42, I just want to say thank you so much for giving me the language back then to know that I had a life's work ahead of me. And I think that, I don't know if you meant this at the time, but it's really a feminist manifesto of women returning to their homes. And I just...
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On behalf of all women everywhere, I want to thank you for your work and sharing this hour with us.
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You're incredible.
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LIVE from Mexico with Brandi and Catherine Carlile
We are Theresa and Nemo and that's why we switched to Shopify.
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Finally, our Nemo Boards shop also makes a good figure on mobile devices and the illustrations on the boards are now much clearer, which is also important to us and what also makes our brand.
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The Rituals that Make a Magical Life with Michael Norton
No, it actually makes me feel I'm still niche, which is cool. Okay. Okay. Oh, like you're like edgy, cool. You're like... You got to know to know.
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The Rituals that Make a Magical Life with Michael Norton
Better not be clinking any forks with anybody else. Well, we already stole it from somebody else. That's fine. But for, you know, in 20 years, we will be still doing it. And how exciting is that?
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The Rituals that Make a Magical Life with Michael Norton
I have something to say to that because I think it's really interesting. I played professional sport and I basically prior to a game, I would go through a sort of like a hundred step ritual process and And if it was a good game, for instance, I would think through very specifically if there was any altering of that. And then I would add that to the ritual.
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So when I retired at 35, you can imagine the long list of stuff. And then if I forgot to do something, it would mess psychologically me up for the game. One thing I'm thinking about, and I'm curious what your thoughts are on this, because I can see kind of the difference between ritual habits and superstitions. They're kind of similar. They have a similar through line of a desire for control.
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But with ritual, it feels like ritual is the place that we land after we try superstitions and habits over time. And ritual is almost the surrender of in a way that the contract we make with the universe is like, okay, I'm going to do these rituals. It's going to bring me a little bit more peace. I know that I don't really have control, but this is just the little game that I'm playing.
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It's like the surrendering to the control by trying to create this little ritual. Is there any truth into what I've just said?
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Well, this would require us to actually have to take showers in the morning and the night.
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Yeah, religion, let's get away from religion.
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The Rituals that Make a Magical Life with Michael Norton
Could we have like a temporary thing? Like, let's just hypothetically say, because I'm an optimizer, unfortunately, but let's just hypothetically say that you don't have time to do your candle or your meeting or whatever in the morning. Is there a replacement ritual that you can do that can be like, bam, we're still going to be good today?
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The Rituals that Make a Magical Life with Michael Norton
That's good. And you also know that tomorrow you can do it and kind of like cut off the failure day. Yeah. You'll find your way back. Yeah. Yeah.
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The Rituals that Make a Magical Life with Michael Norton
What if that's not true? Tied to that. I just want to be protective of the people who might just be doing ritual for their own sake, not because they are believing or tapping into something deeper. But for their own sake is a bigger meaning.
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The Rituals that Make a Magical Life with Michael Norton
No, I understand. Who wants to have a human experience. I understand. And maybe that's the same thing. It's just I didn't want to ostracize a person who's like, I don't believe that there's, you know, I just think that I'm trying to do this thing because it makes me feel good.
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And then it allows them to step in and maybe be creative and have some sort of input themselves and so we have teenagers who are just about to become real adults and they could care less about what we do it's like okay well think of something for yourself and then maybe they will have some sort of individuality and if they choose to have kids later
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The Rituals that Make a Magical Life with Michael Norton
That's exactly right.
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The Rituals that Make a Magical Life with Michael Norton
I tell them all the time, like, I cannot wait until you have your first home. I'm going to walk in here and I'm going to mess it up on purpose. Believe me, I will have a grandma.
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The Rituals that Make a Magical Life with Michael Norton
What if we get millions of people who listen to our podcast clinking their forks right before they start eating? What if we could just find like a collective ritual that starts?
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Oh, I love this conversation so much.
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The Rituals that Make a Magical Life with Michael Norton
God, that is a dream of mine.