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Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth

2594: Six Easy Steps to Good Health & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Sat, 10 May 2025

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In This Episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin Coach Four Pump Heads via Zoom. Mind Pump Fit Tip: 6 EASY steps to good health. (1:43) Seek out being bored. (26:25) Adam and Doug’s driving experience. (36:32) The Paleovalley protein diet. (42:27) Negative motivation. (45:11) When your wife doesn’t get it. (47:57) Porsche experience. (49:50) Probiotics and muscle strength. (54:36) #ListenerLive question #1 – What’s the best weight training approach to getting my speed back? (57:52) #ListenerLive question #2 – Any advice on boosting my appetite? I find food repulsive. (1:11:11) #ListenerLive question #3 – How long can you stay in a cut without losing the progress I made on a reverse diet (1:19:55) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [email protected] Visit Paleovalley for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** Discount is now automatically applied at checkout 15% off your first order! ** Visit Seed for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code 25MINDPUMP at checkout for 25% off your first month’s supply of Seed’s DS-01® Daily Synbiotic** May Special: MAPS 15 Performance or RGB Bundle 50% off! ** Code MAY50 at checkout ** What is NEAT and Why Should You Care About it? – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #2402: The 5 Reasons Why Walking is King for Fat Loss (Burn More Fat than Running & How to Do it Correctly) Mind Pump #2437: What Happens to Your Body When You Quit Ultra-Processed Foods for 30 Days Mind Pump #2377: The 4 Most Valuable Supplements Everyone Should Take Adventure as Lasting Happiness | Dr. Arthur Brooks | EP 528 Jordan B. Peterson Podcast People would rather be electrically shocked than left alone with their thoughts Justin’s Road to 315 Push Press Porsche Experience Center Los Angeles Impact of probiotics on muscle mass, muscle strength and lean mass: a systematic review and meta‐analysis of randomized controlled trials Visit Jolie for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Try it out for yourself with FREE shipping. And if you don’t like it— you can return your Jolie for a full refund within 60 days, no questions asked. ** Mind Pump #2567: Women Who Lift: Breaking Myths and Building Muscle Intuitive Nutrition Guide | MAPS Fitness Products  Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned James Smith (@jamessmithpt) Instagram Jordan B. Peterson (@JordanBPeterson) X/Twitter Arthur Brooks (@arthurcbrooks)  Instagram ATHLEAN-X™ | Jeff Cavaliere MSPT, CSCS (@athleanx) Instagram

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Chapter 1: What are the six easy steps to good health?

141.204 - 148.915 Sal DiStefano

There's only six things you need to do, and they're not that hard to do, to improve your health in dramatic ways. We're going to talk about them today. Let's go.

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149.275 - 150.276 Adam Schafer

Six sounds like a lot, though.

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151.137 - 169.393 Sal DiStefano

They're easy steps. It sounds like a lot. I know, it sounds like a ton. There's 60 steps. No big deal. There's only 72 steps you got to do. Now, as we get into these- They're pretty basic. Now, here's the deal, okay? So we're talking about just overall good health, overall decent body composition, mobility, longevity.

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170.073 - 186.187 Sal DiStefano

Now, what this is going to highlight, by the way, because as I go through these, they're going to sound like, that's not that much. What this highlights isn't that these are magical so much as it's that our normal modern lifestyle is so bad, the bar is real low. So you don't have to do that much to dramatically improve your health. And this is all backed by data.

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186.927 - 196.556 Sal DiStefano

And the data on what I'm about to say shows that doing these things will give you like 80% of the max results you can get for longevity. In other words, the other 20% is all the details. So 80% is going to be –

198.217 - 218.673 Adam Schafer

Do you think it's because the bar is so low or is it just it really doesn't take that much to be healthy? I don't I mean, I don't think it's necessarily that the bar is so low. I think that sometimes we overcomplicate what it takes to stay. Yeah. And or we're always using extreme. Yes. Fitness as the. That's right.

218.993 - 223.397 Adam Schafer

And so when people look at that, it's like, I mean, but that's not that's not an example.

223.417 - 224.758 Justin Andrews

We always stray away from the basics.

224.998 - 225.179 Sal DiStefano

No.

Chapter 2: Why is walking 8,000 steps a day beneficial?

225.299 - 226.781 Justin Andrews

I just feel like that's part of the culture.

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226.801 - 247.677 Sal DiStefano

No. So again, so I'll go with the first step, which is to walk 8,000 steps a day. So now why 8,000? What they find, and this is true for all the steps we're going to talk about, If you were to look at like you at your worst health versus you at your absolute best optimal performance and health, 80% of that can be accomplished by doing the following.

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247.737 - 260.126 Sal DiStefano

So in other words, 80% of the benefits of walking will get accomplished with 8,000 steps a day. Now more than that, you'll start to squeeze out more and more benefits, but you can get 80% of the benefits from just 8,000 steps a day. That's it.

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260.687 - 273.078 Adam Schafer

Not only that, but the last 20%, you risk tipping over the other direction too. So it's like you could do 20% or you could do more, potentially squeeze out another 20%, but then you also flirt with the, Oh, that's too much. Now I'm going the other way.

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273.238 - 292.449 Sal DiStefano

Right, right, right. And it's also about the consistency. Uh, 8,000 steps a day is, for most people, realistic. For most people, you can do that realistically. If I said 12,000 steps or 15,000 steps, okay, you might get a 15% benefit, but now you're almost doubling or 50% or more than what I had just said.

292.569 - 305.718 Sal DiStefano

And the sustainability of that, 8,000 steps a day is, I mean, how much would you need to walk, Adam, time-wise for that? Because you tracked steps quite a bit. Did you get 8,000 steps? Yeah. Yeah. Total in the day? Like if I went on an hour walk, what would I get?

305.738 - 306.279 Adam Schafer

That's not enough.

306.359 - 308.18 Sal DiStefano

No, not enough to get eight, but what would I get in an hour walk?

308.2 - 309.141 Adam Schafer

Like 45 or something.

Chapter 3: Is strength training once a week enough?

504.27 - 504.37 Sal DiStefano

No.

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505.191 - 519.904 Adam Schafer

I don't. You don't see a lot of that. You see a lot of creatures, but no. Yeah, you see a lot of different stuff for sure. But really, really overweight people, you don't see as much. So I'm curious to where they rank, Doug. Are you done searching other stuff over there?

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520.124 - 521.506 Sal DiStefano

You know, what are you looking at?

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522.607 - 524.189 Doug Egge

I'm typing about San Francisco.

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524.669 - 541.788 Sal DiStefano

All right, now, as he looks that up, you mentioned strength training. Here's the data on strength training, everyone. Most of the results you'll get from strength training, like 75% to 80% of the results, is from one day a week. One day a week of strength training. Now, the other 20% would be two, three days a week, four days a week, but...

542.697 - 549.54 Sal DiStefano

If the average person consistently did a full-body workout once a week, they would get most of the results you could get. Healthy city, yeah.

549.58 - 551.421 Doug Egge

Healthiest in America, according to this. Wow.

551.641 - 573.191 Adam Schafer

Okay, yeah. I mean, I've never really thought about it until you brought this up right now, but you were talking about it, and I'm like, you know what? When I think of somewhere like, it wasn't that long ago, I was in Florida, and I went to Disney World, and I was like, holy, I have never seen... so many scooters and people like really, really overweight.

573.691 - 585.319 Adam Schafer

And I remember being there going like, God, when was the last time I seen this many? And the opposite is true in San Francisco. I think back of all the, I was just not there that long ago and walking around. I'm like, you know what? I can't picture a really obese person that I saw.

Chapter 4: How can diet and processed foods impact health?

698.511 - 714.317 Adam Schafer

Oh, I had clients straight up hire me and tell me that. I'm not changing my diet. Yeah. I'm going to drink. I'm going to eat. I'm going to do those things like that. I know that I could be in better shape, but that's not why I'm here. I'm here for you to teach me how to lift weights, and I know the benefits of being strong and having muscle. And that's all I care about them. I'm like, okay.

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714.497 - 730.525 Sal DiStefano

No, it's better than not. Yeah. It's funny when you look at the studies on strength training, one day a week, it gives you a bulk of the results. Two days a week gives you a little more. And then every successive, you know, each successive increase in frequency gives you even less and less and less in terms of results.

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730.545 - 746.876 Sal DiStefano

So like two days a week is definitely better than one day a week, but one day a week gives you most of the results. Add a third day a week, you get a little bit more. Four days a week, eh, a tiny bit more. Five days a week, eh, you're squeezing out another 2%. So it's really a one day a week for most people is going to give them, again, most of the results we're looking for with strain training.

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746.896 - 747.437 Sal DiStefano

It doesn't take us much.

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747.457 - 749.058 Justin Andrews

It goes a lot further than people realize.

749.078 - 749.438 Sal DiStefano

That's right.

749.458 - 750.719 Justin Andrews

We continually learn.

751.12 - 768.651 Adam Schafer

And especially, too, if you keep that statistic in mind and go – Man, I just, okay, just don't fall off for longer than, you know, as long as I come back and get at least a workout in, it's not a huge failure. Because I know that as a younger lifter, I would do that to myself. Oh, well, I've got this coming up and that coming up.

769.072 - 779.077 Adam Schafer

At best, I'll be able to get one workout in over the next week or two where I just, I'll forget it then versus, oh, go get it. Maybe I don't work out for another week or so, but that's okay because you get tremendous.

Chapter 5: What role does boredom play in creativity?

Chapter 6: How does sleep affect testosterone and health?

1010.417 - 1023.123 Sal DiStefano

So we have to kind of abandon it. A little side note, by the way, which is funny. We have all this time-saving stuff that we've done over time, and yet we have less time to ourselves than ever before. Isn't that interesting? We're shortening our lifespan.

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1023.163 - 1029.565 Adam Schafer

Well, we shove more things in there now. I mean, they've done studies on that before. Oh, huge studies. The amount of things that you add in.

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1029.625 - 1048.954 Sal DiStefano

Oh, later I'll tell you guys about this great podcast I listened to that talked just about that. So next up, drink only water. That sounds silly, but don't drink anything else. Don't drink anything else. Now, a cup of coffee is fine, but don't have sodas, juices. I don't like the taste of water. Just water. By the way, if that's you. You've heard that, right? That's bad.

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1049.014 - 1051.035 Adam Schafer

That means you've been drinking a lot of shit, bro.

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1051.095 - 1070.251 Sal DiStefano

I was like, what? If water tastes bad to you, you know. Something's, yeah, that's not a good sign. Ew. My wife, so she explained this to me because she grew up this way and she won't mind me talking about this. She grew up with, and their diet at home was not great at all. And she's like, all I drank was soda. That was what I drank. I didn't drink water. Yikes.

1070.311 - 1076.818 Sal DiStefano

And she said, I used to hate, I hated the taste of water. I had to actually acclimate to it. And I had clients like that that would tell me that. Oh.

1077.418 - 1085.483 Justin Andrews

I've hung out with plenty of people, especially when I was in the Midwest. Mountain Dew was a big thing. Literally all they drank was Mountain Dew. I was like, this is not good.

1085.683 - 1105.432 Sal DiStefano

All right, next up, eight hours of sleep a night. Just target being in bed eight hours before you need to wake up. This has profound impacts on health, hormones, and behaviors. So lack of sleep, poor sleep, you're far more likely to overeat. You're far less likely to be active. If you are active, you're not going to adapt as well to it.

1105.452 - 1119.942 Sal DiStefano

In other words, you're not going to build muscle as well, burn body fat as well. And the hormonal effects. Men alone, you can lower, by the way, guys listening, if you want to slam your testosterone down by over 25%, one night of bad sleep will do that. One night of bad sleep will crush testosterone.

Chapter 7: What are the benefits of supplements like creatine?

1760.653 - 1760.853 Nikki's Son

Yeah.

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1761.013 - 1781.486 Sal DiStefano

And being bored. We're not expressing that anymore. No. And being bored is very painful. It sucks. Nobody likes being bored. And they've done studies on this. And I looked these studies up. They're fascinating. They took people and they had them sit in a room for 15 minutes with nothing except for a button that would shock you. So you could push this button and shock yourself. What?

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1782.907 - 1798.376 Sal DiStefano

Most people would rather shock themselves than sit there and do nothing. Shut up. Animal studies show the same thing. People hate being just still and quiet. And they were going, and I didn't get into the depth of it. That can't be true, Sal.

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1798.836 - 1804.5 Adam Schafer

Somebody sits in a room for 15 minutes. Now, do I know that button shocks me or is it more like it?

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1804.52 - 1806.481 Sal DiStefano

No, they tell you. If you push this, you'll get a little shock.

1807.509 - 1809.57 Justin Andrews

There's got to be a curiosity factor to that.

1809.73 - 1815.132 Sal DiStefano

Oh, yeah, of course. It's more than once. It's not just, oh, I'll do it again. And you can't talk. Really?

1815.152 - 1829.739 Adam Schafer

Yes. I mean, come on. Think about how interesting that is. It's fascinating. It's way fascinating. The fact that you know that it's not like you're going to get candy or you're going to get a positive feedback thing. You're going to get shocked, which is, I would think, mostly negative.

1830.079 - 1834.521 Justin Andrews

Also shows that we seek out negative things. Sure.

Chapter 8: What was the Porsche driving experience like?

2596.98 - 2597.761 Adam Schafer

That's really bad news.

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2598.061 - 2614.994 Sal DiStefano

But what happens with that is because I've dealt with gut health issues for so long, it's like what I would use to gauge how I should eat. And when it feels okay, I'm like, yay, I'm going to eat everything. And so I've been eating. You're blasting out your wife? I just have too much. That's YouTube. I know, I'm projecting it.

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2617.928 - 2622.489 Justin Andrews

She's not happy with me.

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2622.629 - 2641.716 Sal DiStefano

Yeah. So I've been eating like too many foods. I have intolerances to, they're not affecting my gut, but that doesn't mean they're not affecting me. And one of the effects that I get is I hold water. I just get kind of bloated. So I've been eating like gluten here and there and dairy here and there. And so like last night, my wife never comments. on the way I look.

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2641.916 - 2658.713 Sal DiStefano

In fact, all she ever tells me is you always look good, which I'm like, you're full of crap. There's times I look better in something. She's like, no, you always look good. I'm like, okay, whatever. But last night I go to sit down, she looks at me, she's got a funny look on her face. She's like, your face looks puffy. Like, why is your face puffy? And I'm like, thanks. I'm like, oh, man.

2658.753 - 2676.084 Sal DiStefano

So yeah, so I'm going to do... I'm essentially going to fast most of the day for a whole week. Not because it's a great diet, everybody. I was just kidding. But because it just gets rid of water and it's allowed me to reset my gut. And I like their bone broth protein because it's super easy to digest. I have no reaction to it whatsoever. I can do a lot of it.

2676.744 - 2685.775 Sal DiStefano

And also bone broth is really healthy. At least the amino acids in it are, or the high amino acid content for certain amino acids are good for gut health. So I'm going to be doing that twice a day.

2685.795 - 2694.786 Adam Schafer

Now I'm assuming, I'm assuming your, your idea of doing this for a week is more like a discipline thing because if you know, just to get, just to reset, but you would get that from a two day fast.

2695.427 - 2699.31 Sal DiStefano

I would, I would, but I don't want to do pure fast. I want to have the protein.

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