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Crook County

4 | Keeper Of A House Of Prostitution

Tue, 25 Feb 2025

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Ken settles into his new life in The Outfit. We meet the working girls and some more mafia goons, and learn the ins and outs of how a house of prostitution is run. A robbery at the club puts Kenny in The Outfit’s crosshairs.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: Who is Kenny and how did he join The Outfit?

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You're listening to Crook County. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals participating in the podcast. This episode also contains subject matter including graphic depictions of violence which may not be suitable for everyone. Listener discretion is advised.

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197.526 - 199.086 Kyle Tequila

previously on Crook County.

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Chapter 2: How does a house of prostitution operate?

199.607 - 202.407 Ken

I got recruited into the mob when I was 17 years old.

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202.748 - 205.488 Kyle Tequila

After two years in the outfit, Kenny was on his way up.

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205.848 - 226.538 Ken

He trusted me because I didn't steal money. I just did my job. It's hard to find an honest guy in the fucking outfit. He got a new boss. My crew boss was Jack. Jack, Jackie Lemon's Erickson. He ran the whorehouses. And Kenny got a new job, working the door at a brothel. A guy would come in. I'd introduce him to all the girls by name. They would negotiate a deal.

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226.818 - 237.424 Ken

She would hand me half the take, and then she would be on her way. And then one night, he met a girl. I think I was 19 when I met her. She was 20. Saw her sitting at the end of the bar. I fell in love with her pretty quick.

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237.844 - 248.941 Kyle Tequila

That pretty little redhead at the bar was my mother. My name is Kyle Tequila. Welcome to Crook County.

269.797 - 285.762 Ken

We would have to take bus every once in a while, just so Cook County cops could, you know, show that they're making some progress here. And those were all arranged bus. Okay, Ken, it's your turn. Oh, man. When half the motherfuckers were running their own hordes on the side out of our fucking clubs.

290.744 - 294.425 Kyle Tequila

Episode 4, Keeper of a House of Prostitution.

303.459 - 314.347 Bill Curtis

Coming from Paramount Pictures. He's very good, yeah. He's the best. Hey man, he's great. He's the king out there. John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever.

Chapter 3: What role did Ken play at the brothel?

314.367 - 327.437 Kyle Tequila

I'm watching the trailer to the 1977 box office monster, Saturday Night Fever. Believe it or not, I've actually never seen this movie, which obviously is a huge mistake because it looks hilarious.

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327.457 - 331.12 Ken

I mean, I could dance with you, but you know, you're not my dream girl or nothing like that.

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332.399 - 359.725 Kyle Tequila

a 23-year-old unknown actor named John Travolta with his trademark cleft chin, strutting around Brooklyn in silk and polyester, dancing up a storm every night, to what has become the second highest-selling soundtrack of all time, just behind the Bodyguard soundtrack. Fuck, that is a good song. Oh, and how wild is this?

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360.065 - 375.958 Kyle Tequila

The Bee Gees didn't even write these cultural defining songs until after the movie was filmed because the producers couldn't license the original music. So they scrambled and begged the Bee Gees to write a few songs on spec, which they didn't even want to do because they were in the middle of recording their album in some studio in France.

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376.399 - 417.327 Kyle Tequila

So they basically threw together four songs in a weekend to get it over with. Those four songs? Night Fever? Night Fever. If I can't have you, more than a woman, and of course, staying alive. If that shit don't make you want to get up and dance, then I can't help you. I can't help you, brother.

419.11 - 430.685 Kyle Tequila

Anyway, the reason I'm even going down this rabbit hole in the first place is because apparently Saturday Night Fever might as well be a documentary of my parents' relationship in their first few years. I'll let my mom explain this one.

432.518 - 441.101 Ken's Partner

One of our songs would come on and we'd run out to the dance floor because we're so excited because we can dance so good together. We're like John Travolta.

441.181 - 445.943 Kathy

I was going to say, that was just what I was thinking. I'm like, believe me, it was Saturday Night Fever.

446.043 - 464.413 Ken's Partner

It was. That's just what it was like. How those two would practice and then they would go on the dance floor and people would just like separate, move away and watch us dance. That's how it was. People were even throwing money at us at one time on the floor. But I think that was about they wanted you to take your clothes off. I'm kidding.

Chapter 4: What secrets and stories do the working girls share?

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They may be right above your car late one night as you cruise down the road or look like mysterious lights hovering above your home. Or are they? We used the word drone because it was comfortable to other people.

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897.772 - 900.013 Unknown Speaker 3

One minute it was there and one minute it wasn't.

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900.833 - 909.155 Unknown Speaker 9

Oh, that is beyond creepy. Do you feel like this drone was targeting you specifically?

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909.535 - 920.957 Unknown Speaker 18

Yes, absolutely. Listen to Obscurum, Invasion of the Drones, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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922.932 - 943.25 Ben Ham

What's the one thing you've never told anyone? People just like you tell all in a podcast called The Secret Room. If you're a true story fan and you cannot get enough of people's most intimate dreams, desires, and shame, you will love The Secret Room. Like Mila's deathbed confession that her daughter's absent father is a movie star.

943.511 - 946.773 Mila

I wish I could tell someone who the father is while I'm still on Earth.

947.134 - 949.436 Ben Ham

Or Jen's secret love affair with a man on death row.

949.781 - 954.57 Jen

It's turned my world upside down and something he just did has devastated me.

954.77 - 957.515 Ben Ham

Or the way that Joey falls in love with inanimate objects.

Chapter 5: What impact did Ken's lifestyle have on his personal life?

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When a young woman is murdered, a desperate search for answers takes investigators to some unexpected places. He believed it could be part of a satanic cult.

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1001.994 - 1006.236 Unknown Speaker 8

I think there were many individuals present. I don't know who pulled the trigger.

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A long investigation stalls until someone changes their story. I like saw the whole thing that happened. An arrest, trial, and conviction soon follow. He just saw his body just kind of collapsing. Two decades later, a new team of lawyers says their client is innocent. He did not kill her. There's no way. Is the real killer rightly behind bars or still walking free? Are you capable of murder?

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I definitely am not. Did you kill her?

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Listen to The Real Killer Season 3 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

1053.083 - 1080.406 Ken

I'm running whorehouses. I'm not running them, but I'm a doorman. I ended up running them later, you know, 18, 19, 20, 20, you know, up till, what, 28, you know. So, but these girls, man, these, I mean, you know, we're talking lost, hardcore souls, you know, just lost. Some of them are angels, you know, just lost angels, you know, just lost and drug addicted.

1083.51 - 1099.475 Kyle Tequila

During the years I filmed these conversations with my dad, we spent hours and hours talking about all the sensational mafia bullshit you would come to expect in a story like this. But when he remembers the girls that worked in the club, there's an immediate shift in his demeanor.

1100.376 - 1122.076 Kyle Tequila

A calm washes over him as he smiles in memory and begins diving into dozens of stories from his 10 years as a doorman and eventually manager of the clubs. Many of these stories I will feature in later episodes as they relate to the larger overall story. But first, I need to say what's on my mind. None of this has been an easy pill to swallow for me.

1122.997 - 1145.135 Kyle Tequila

The drugs and the murders make this whole thing bad enough. But where I get the real pit in my stomach is hearing him talk about his time in the clubs with these girls. Especially knowing my mom was very much in the picture during these years. And as hard as that is to digest, the fact is, this is not my story. It's Kenny's story.

Chapter 6: Who was Cindy, the club dominatrix?

1432.34 - 1448.64 Kyle Tequila

And by doing so, he was laying the foundation that would eventually fragment his life into two completely separate halves, both mentally and physically. But as fascinating as all that sounds, the reality is much easier said than done.

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1451.603 - 1459.731 Ken's Partner

He realized at 19 years old, what am I doing being engaged? And I'm 20. He's only 19.

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1459.851 - 1461.433 Kathy

And that has a lot to do with it.

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1461.713 - 1468.059 Ken's Partner

So anyway, you know, maybe a year into the engagement, he called it off.

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1478.607 - 1492.356 Bill Curtis

Bill Curtis with Chicago's number one news, Channel 2, the 10 o'clock news. In Chicago, the connection between organized crime and prostitution was the target of government sting. More from Ned Potter.

1493.036 - 1500.761 Ned Potter

The targets involved were clubs and bars such as these, where officials say sex was openly for sale, but the transactions were carefully covered up.

1502.078 - 1517.607 Ken

We would have to take bus every once in a while just so Cook County cops could, you know, show that they're making some progress here, okay? When half the motherfuckers were running their own hordes on the side out of our fucking clubs. Anyway, that's another fucking story.

1518.527 - 1530.494 Kyle Tequila

Well, that is a story I would love to hear. But we've been going for a while now, and he's getting a little hungry, so we decide to take a drive. Of course, he starts talking in the car, so I whip out my phone and hit record.

1535.444 - 1547.993 Ken

So, you know, these motherfuckers were so crooked and we owned them. We owned them. But here's the deal. You know, they had to show numbers. So somebody had to catch a bust every once in a while. All right. So I caught two busts.

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