Steven
Appearances
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 24: …And Twenty Justice Four All
Oh, shit.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 24: …And Twenty Justice Four All
Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 24: …And Twenty Justice Four All
Yeah. And you're fine.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 24: …And Twenty Justice Four All
Hi.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 24: …And Twenty Justice Four All
Yes. I love it.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 24: …And Twenty Justice Four All
Best. There it is. And that's it. We're done. Stay sexy. No. Are we? Yes. Okay. Go do it again. Stay sexy. Don't get murdered. I just want a cookie. Want a cookie? That's a yes.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 24: …And Twenty Justice Four All
Okay. Sorry, go on.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 24: …And Twenty Justice Four All
Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 24: …And Twenty Justice Four All
I'm sorry. That was so condescending.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
But secondly, it's a dream where we feel like we're only just getting started. And if you enjoy what we do here, please join the 24% of people that listen to this podcast regularly and follow us on this app. Here's a promise I'm going to make to you. I'm going to do everything in my power to make this show as good as I can now and into the future.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Good luck with that. Good luck with that. I'm going to double your weight.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I'm not going to risk it. I'd be out of here.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
We're going to deliver the guests that you want me to speak to and we're going to continue to keep doing all of the things you love about this show. Thank you. Thank you so much. Back to the episode. Within all your work, what is it that you're aiming to do? And I guess most importantly, equally importantly, who are you aiming to do it for?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
So you're going to have to explain the brain to me in the context you're describing it for me to understand some of these points.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Tell me what I need to know about the brain. I'm going to draw a little picture of it on my iPad here so I can stay with you.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I love to vomit. That's so weird.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Is that when you're like, what's... Yeah, everybody slows down and you're like, what happened? What happened? Oh, yeah, of course.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I'll take the truth.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
So how would I go about switching into this right hemisphere? If I'm feeling anxious, what would you recommend that I do?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Okay. Something that makes me feel a little bit anxious.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
This is an interesting one. Okay. Sounds like a strange thing to say, but when my partner is not happy and I know she's not happy, but she's not telling me why and I'm around her and I can tell from her vibe, her face, she's not happy about something and I have no idea what it is.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I love fresh air.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Mm-hmm.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
My breath is short. Yeah. Right. I just feel tense and I become quite impatient because I just need the answer to like alleviate the anxiety. Yeah.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I'm very focused, yeah.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Okay.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
My anxiety went away.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Yeah.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Relaxes, right? Your body relaxes.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I love to vomit. Why is that?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Do you have to do the orange thing the whole time to get into that state?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Yeah. All right. The way I usually sign it or write it.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Okay. Yeah. Okay. So the way I usually sign it is a bit more complicated.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I might need pen and paper.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Terrible.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
It's terrible. It's beautiful.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
No, yours is good.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
So what does this mean for me on a day-to-day basis? If I understand the power of this, does this mean that I should draw my name a lot? Or is there something that we can all be doing to alleviate our anxiety and to get us into the right hemisphere of our brain?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I would approach it slowly or not approach it at all. And I would get down. Yes. And I'd be very gentle and say hello and I'd ask it to come to me.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
It's like here in my chest.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Yeah, for some reason it just, the volume went down. It's just like the volume has went down. And it made me wonder if, because just by you saying that, it made me wonder if in those moments I should be writing it out.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
You said something at the start. You said that anxiety is like driving over a metal spike in those police chases. That's what I was thinking about, like the police chases where they throw out the metal spikes and the car drives over. Why did you use that analogy? What are you saying there about the nature of anxiety?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
In the making, it usually feels great. Yeah. Like in the process of making. Actually, me and my partner went and did, last weekend, we went and made some art. And I was like stressed and stuff. And so when we went and did this art, I'd like never painted in my life. Yeah.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
So we went to this like random loft and there was this guy there and he had these massive two pieces of cardboard and like loads of spray cans and paint and stuff. And we just painted for... maybe three hours or something, and I was totally lost in it. I mean, that's the way people describe it. They describe it as being lost in it, right?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Get a real job. Yeah. How does this link again back to the brain? So if I'm creating, I'm making some art, I was doing that spray paint thing with the paint and the I'll show you a picture of it after. Cool, I want to see it. But how is that helping me to calm my anxiety?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
And what is that shift in human consciousness that you're predicting?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
This is a related but slightly unrelated topic, but there's a lot of people and certain demographics suffering in different ways at the moment. Yes. There's like a conversation I hear a lot about men suffering with meaning and purpose and those things. And I hear this other conversation about young women suffering and depression and anxiety being on the rise there.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
When you think about those two groups, so like men and young women, what is it that you think is the causal factor of their suffering? Because their suffering is similar and different, right?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
You talked about suicidal ideation earlier on being unique to humans. When we think about suicidal ideation, it's particularly prominent in young men. I think in the UK, the stat is still the case that the single biggest killer of young men is themselves under the age of 45. Wow. So why is that? We talked about meaning and purpose and stuff earlier.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Why are young men killing themselves at alarming rates?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
So what is the solution then for young men?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
And that's not that hard to do. Why is it healing for them, doing that, using their skills, hunting, surviving? Because it's what we evolved to do.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
For people that aren't watching video, she's pointing at the studio.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
So what do we do about it? Because, you know, the more I listen to you, I think maybe I should run away. Like maybe I should. I have the funds to run away. I could go forever. And I do wonder. I'd probably be happier. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe I'd start creating though. And then this is what I said. I did a solo episode of my podcast recently. I said, if I ran away, then I'd start creating. And then.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
You know, I might start a podcast on the beach in Bali and then... You would.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Your story... is heartbreaking in many ways, but it's so evidently shaped the person that sits in front of me today because you're at a very young age, which we've not really spoken about much. You were part of the Mormon religion.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Take me into that before 10 years old, how that experience before the age of 10 has shaped the person you are.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Abuse at the hands of your father.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
And you remembered that at 28 years old? Yeah. You recalled it at 28 years old?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
You called your mother to tell her you'd been sexually abused and you realized and she said, yes, she knows.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
She said, well, yeah, that's how it is.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
How did it track? What did she know?
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Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Did you confront him?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Did he acknowledge that he had done it?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
And after that phone call with your mother where you confronted her about it and she said, that sounds about right, I read that she then denied it after that.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Did she ever admit that she had said that?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
And she was depressed, right? I was reading through your story about how she spent a lot of time in bed, upset, crying.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
the influence of the religion, was there anything that happened to them?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Was there a suspicion that your dad was abused?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
He was sexually abused by his mother.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
The things that happened to you at that age, they left their fingerprints on you as you went through your teen years.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I was listening to an interview you did where you were describing being, I think, 17, 18 years old and you were thinking about ending your own life.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Constantly.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Through what period of your life?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
How could you persuade anybody that that state of being is even possible?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Why? Why do you think that was so present in your life, those thoughts?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
And are the two linked?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Let me push it on.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Okay. I love to vomit.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Yeah.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I love to vomit. Why? That's so weird.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I love fresh air.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I love fresh air.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I love to vomit. Why is that? That's so strange.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Just for people that couldn't see that because they were listening, when, I don't know if I've just been like messed with in some way, but when I said, I love to vomit, she could push my hand down. But when I said I love fresh air, she couldn't push my hand down. And she was trying both times. She was pushing hard both times. And I would think that I'd be able to resist the forces.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
But when I said I love to vomit, it was like, the only way I can describe it was I wasn't actually connected to my strength. Yeah, exactly. It was like I was inside my head, so I couldn't also at the same time think about you. You're about to push me. Right. It was like there was two different systems.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
So let's get on to that then. Who are you in terms of your qualifications?
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Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
100%.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I love fresh air.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Yeah, well, I think, yeah, one of the things, the reason I say that is because I've been saying on stage and I wanted to see if you thought it was true, this idea, because people ask me all the time, they ask me about meaning and purpose and what decision they should make and should they quit their job or quit the relationship? And my response for the last, I'd say, 12 months has just been,
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
to try and impress upon them that they were born with this thing inside them, which is how you feel. And you've learned not to listen to it because your mother's opinion of which university you go to has like superseded it and Instagram has.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
But I know it's there because I know like evolutionarily you wouldn't be here if your body didn't have signals to tell you to run, to tell you to be scared, to tell you to move away from this person. So I know it's there, but you just probably tuned it out.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
and I say that to people and I've almost never asked them if that resonated with them but I've just been saying it for a while so I don't even know if it's like true but it's just how I experience life because my decision like the reason why I'm sat here now is because of just I quit a lot of stuff
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
So like, and I quit. People go, you're so young. It's like, actually, it's not that I made great decisions. It's just, I think the skill of quitting was one that just came naturally to me. So like, I don't like being at school. I stopped going. I don't like university. I left after the first lecture.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
I started a business, did it for two years, quit that business out of the blue, started another business, did that one for six, seven years, quit that one out of the blue. I love it. And it was all like, I didn't need to have a place to go to. I didn't need to have like a better option. It was just this doesn't feel good.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
But that's kind of running off the cliff. Yeah, it is a bit.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
What if you don't want to do it, but there's something telling you that you have to? So it could be like a horrible work meeting or that event you've been invited to with that person, which you don't particularly like anyway, that baby shower you don't want to go to.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
Freedom.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Dr. Martha Beck (Oprah's Life Coach): I Nearly Died, So I Stopped Lying! Why You're Anxious & How To Fix It! Fix Your Childhood Trauma!
What is freedom in that definition of the word?
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Well, throughout your teenage years to the person you are now. How radical is the difference? So if I met that 19-year-old teenager and she sat down here… I just went back for the first time in years.
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And if she turned to you and said, Dr. Martha Beck, what is step one? What would you say to her?
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Themselves?
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The suffering is part of the dream world.
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When you say that, are you referring to the anxiety spiral and those kinds of things?
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One of the things you talked about was when you saw the light during that surgery. Like when people hear you say you saw a light during surgery, people think, well, you're on morphine or something.
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Were you on morphine?
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Why truth emerged from that? Because you say, from what I've understood, that you vowed not to lie.
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Yeah. As part of you stepping in, when you step into your truth, so the body knows, from what you've said, the body lives in a better state, a less anxious state, I imagine.
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You know what it is? When people think about stepping into their truth, the reason they probably don't is because there's consequence to that, or at least there's a short-term apparent consequence. I might lose my job. When people think of truth, they think of speaking your mind. In the modern world, you speak your mind, you might lose everything.
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Who have you worked with on a one-on-one basis? What are the different types of individuals that have asked for your help and support?
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How do you know what your true nature is? Is there such an exercise one can go through to figure it out?
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Okay, so the absence of all psychological suffering is my true nature. Yeah. So is my psychological suffering caused by being not in my true nature?
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Do you suffer?
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As part of you stepping into your truth, you realized that the relationship you were in with your husband at the time was not the relationship you wanted.
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There really is something to that. There really is something to this idea that when you follow your truth, you'll live a countercultural life. Yeah.
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I don't think it's embarrassing. I've got friends that, I've got a good friend of mine that's, that is married, but also in love with another couple. So they're like a four and they like raise the kids together and stuff.
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I mean, there's nothing it's it's, this sounds so strange to say, but for me, to me, it's actually quite inspiring because it must take a lot of.
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something to accept that people are going to be judgmental and to do it anyway yeah yeah i mean i'm like oh god i wish i had the like if that's how i felt would i be the type of person that would be strong enough to follow that feeling if that's like how i felt or would i just bat the feeling away i actually think i'd bat the feeling away and i don't like that about myself because because of consequence and the consequence for me would be in my head it would be quite grave
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Yeah, so it's going to be written about everywhere and people are going to think, they're going to tweet me all day saying, Steve's dating five people or whatever.
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Who's this other lady?
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No.
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We talked earlier on about meaning and purpose. You said the billionaires when they come to you, but really anyone that comes to you is all trying to figure out their path in life, their meaning, their purpose. It's a big, big question. What are the lies we're sold about finding our purpose?
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captivity freedom um any situation it has to work before i'll say i'll put my stamp on it and say yeah i think that works and who when you talk about you know helping billionaires what do they come to you seeking do they just express symptoms or something
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Because I have a lot of kids in my DMs that DM me and say, Steve, I can't find my passion or I can't find my purpose. And I never really know what to say to them.
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I bought the house this year, so I've been working a lot, and it's only really at the end of the year that I get to go there, so I don't really know South Africa well yet.
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I am me because
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Yeah.
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I felt like my heart rate dropped.
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That's kind of how I just felt really calm. Yeah. And I was thinking about, I was trying to look at the space in between.
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So if someone sends me a DM and says, I can't find my purpose in life, what do you suggest I respond?
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It's my deep gladness.
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And by deep gladness, how I interpreted that was the thing that makes me happy or the thing that makes me feel good?
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How has the internet messed this all up?
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Do you interact with the internet much?
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Amen. What is the most important thing in your new book, Beyond Anxiety, Curiosity, Creativity, and Finding Your Life's Purpose, that we haven't talked about yet?
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Dr. Martha Beck, we have a closing tradition on the podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest, not knowing who they're leaving the question for. Okay. And the question that has been left for you is... This is a tricky one. And you can interpret this however you wish.
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What do you think separates a great story from just a good story? Easy.
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A good story is when bad things happen to good people. But a great story is when bad things happen to heroes.
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Is this a choice that we have?
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You clearly have a great story. Oh, thank you. So do you. Because you are clearly someone that is a good person that bad things happen to. So now you're a person where bad things have happened to someone that me and many others consider to be a hero. because of all the wonderful things that you've done. It's interesting, because I thought I understood the subject matter of anxiety.
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And I think I was of the mind that it's something you attack, you throw things at. Much of society says the key to curing anxiety is just you throw pills at it or something else. But you've given me a whole new perspective on what it is and also how to navigate in a world that's increasingly more anxious. And I'm sure you've done that for many other people.
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In a way, that's really, really honest, really rooted in science and really accessible. I hope so. Thank you so much. That's genuinely the words that I mean. I'm not lying to you. Thank you. I highly recommend anybody who's resonated with any of this conversation, please go and get this book. It's fantastic.
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It has these wonderful areas where you can engage with the book and there's some sections that you can write in. But it's just a wonderful book. And I think it's a wonderful book for anybody that's struggling. And I say struggling or suffering in all your forms. That's trying to understand what that means and how to channel it into your own hero's journey of sorts.
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So Dr. Martha Beck, thank you so much. It's been such an honor and privilege to meet you. And I hope we have more conversations in the future.
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So if I'm feeling anxious, what would you recommend that I do?
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Quick one before we get back to this episode. Just give me 30 seconds of your time. Two things I wanted to say. The first thing is a huge thank you for listening and tuning into the show week after week. It means the world to all of us. And this really is a dream that we absolutely never had and couldn't have imagined getting to this place.
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I just wanted to ask you, you know, of all the things you could have written about at this exact moment in time, you chose to write a book about anxiety. It's called Beyond Anxiety, Curiosity, Creativity, and Finding Your Life's Purpose. Why did you choose that subject and specifically this word anxiety above everything else you could have written about?
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What is the Navy SEALs? Because, you know, around the world, I think people are aware of the term Navy SEALs, but we don't actually know fully what it is.
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And how long is training? How long does it take to get through training and pass the other end?
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If you could do me that small favor and hit the follow button wherever you're listening to this, that would mean the world to me. That is the only favor I will ever ask you. Thank you so much for your time. Back to this episode. There are clues in your early context that suggest you might have walked the path that you've walked in your life.
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And what's the similarities that you notice between the people that made it and didn't?
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But there's also clues that suggest you absolutely would never have done what you've done. So taking me back to that early context, what do I need to know about that environment, the influences of that environment to understand how you ended up where you are today?
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If I were to meet the guy in his mother's basement and then meet the guy who qualified from the SEALs training, in terms of their mentality, like their psychology, how would they be different? What evidence does the guy that graduated from SEAL training have that the other guy doesn't have? What is that? What's the difference?
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It's so interesting because I've never actually heard someone give that kind of advice before.
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And it worked. This idea of rock bottom. It's so interesting, and it sounds pretty tragic that sometimes people do need to go to the bottom on their own to realize that, as the quote says, the pain of staying the same is greater than the pain of making a change.
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I was 18 years old, and I just dropped out of university, and I saw someone on YouTube say, change happens when the pain of staying the same becomes greater than the pain of making a change. And this kind of speaks to why some people sometimes, when you listen to their stories, it wasn't until they hit the basement
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that they were able to look themselves in the mirror and then take actions in the right direction. But also sometimes when you try and help someone and you prop them up, like if your mother had gone, listen, here's some money and, you know, here's some, you don't have to pay rent. Right. She would be propping you up a little bit.
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Yeah. I'm trying to think about the kid that's listening to this right now that can relate. Yeah. or the person in their life, they might be in a job or whatever, that can relate to knowing that there's something not quite right in their life. Maybe they're at a point where they can start to look themselves in the mirror and take responsibility.
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But do they have to go to rock bottom to start to change their life?
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I think it was Jocko Willick that said to me, his friend had called him and was going through a difficult time in his life, divorce, lost his wife, lost his job, et cetera. And Jocko said something, words to the effective, when you're lost... in like a military context or whatever, you need to start moving.
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It doesn't necessarily matter which direction you move in, but you need to start moving in a direction. And I was thinking about that, as you said, about this idea of like paralysis by analysis. People, they might be at rock bottom, but they just don't know what to do. So they're just sat in the same situation.
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Certainty in that context is sometimes better for people than the uncertainty of what happens if I...
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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MrBallen (Former Navy SEAL): I Wasn't Sleeping, I Became A Raging Alcoholic! I Was Disowned By The SEALS! This Will Turn Your Life Around In 2025!
Must be checked. Yeah. So I pause on the must be checked because— Once you become the Navy SEAL, and everyone's saying, that's John Allen, the Navy SEAL, does your motivation disappear or does it become something else?
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I think it's really honest, but also quite unorthodox advice to say, listen, if you're in the shower and you're going, I just want to be rich so I can prove those people wrong, or I want to be famous, prove these people wrong. It's unorthodox advice to say to follow that. But I have to say, I just completely agree. I agree because...
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Sometimes you have to have a hypothesis fail you or some kind of idea fail you for you to scratch the itch. And that's why I was focusing on the side of ticking the box. It's going to stay there.
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I don't know if you can go to therapy or do ayahuasca or something to get rid of that thing. But for me, until you pursue it and have it fail you or succeed, it's going to stay there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. That's actually really, really true. Yeah. Yeah. It's so interesting that, because I've never actually heard someone give that kind of advice before. What people say is like, find your why. And they often are quite judgmental about what's motivating you. So the only like accepted motivation is something like, I want to serve my country or I want to change the world.
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But actually most of us are either like driven or dragged, as I say, which could be, yeah, like driven is like, hey, you're very conscious of what's driving you and you're in control. But then being dragged is the insecurity. It's the shame. It's the, you know, my siblings are better than me and I want to say fuck you to my parents, whatever it might be. Very, very, very interesting.
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It's also even more interesting that you ended up where you are today. So you get medically discharged from the military after the Afghanistan time?
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Yeah.
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MrBallen (Former Navy SEAL): I Wasn't Sleeping, I Became A Raging Alcoholic! I Was Disowned By The SEALS! This Will Turn Your Life Around In 2025!
So first and foremost, I have to ask, what do you think happened to those hikers?
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And my next question is, as you reflect on the journey of your life, from the basement to the Seals, to then producing the Seals content, getting disowned from your Seals brotherhood because of that, then stumbling across this TikTok thing, then YouTube and everything else that's happened.
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When you look back and go, like, how can I give anybody advice on how to stumble into their thing based on the actions, the intentional actions that I took that brought me here?
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It's interesting because as you were talking about timing, I was thinking, that's not what I think the answer is. I was thinking that timing is one of those things you see in hindsight and go, gosh, wasn't that perfect timing?
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For it to be perfect timing, you need to be the kind of guy who's willing to send their kids down to the pool with your wife and make a TikTok video on a platform you know very little about, doing something you've never done before. And it's actually in that moment that I think that's your moment of brilliance. That's when your life pivots.
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Because genuinely 99.9% of people would not be making a video on a platform they don't know much about on a subject that they've never made a video about before. And your story is like riddled with those moments where, like even responding to the guy on LinkedIn, you said most people didn't reply.
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But I responded and then you went and met him in New York or something. So in hindsight, yes, it looks like timing, but actually it's that... you were in moments where you were lost, you got moving, you did something, you had a bias towards action. And failure is feedback. Feedback is knowledge, knowledge is power.
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So it's interesting because when you're talking about like your bias of just like do something, aim at something, what it appears is happening there is even if the thing fails, like some of the things you tried failed, at least you're getting feedback. True. And then the feedback's informing what you do next. Like you said, I did the Seals thing on LinkedIn.
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You learned some stuff about social media there. Okay, it didn't work out how you wished, but you took that into the next test. Yeah. And... And that's really, I think, when I looked at your story, the defining thing is these just a willingness to, in fact, I'll be honest, a willingness to embarrass yourself and be bad at something.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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It goes back to what you were saying about when Will jumped out of the plane. Yeah. All the fear was there before he jumped. Oh, yes. And just like you walking out on that stage, the fear, you're tormented before. Oh, yes. I always find before significantly harder in every way.
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MrBallen (Former Navy SEAL): I Wasn't Sleeping, I Became A Raging Alcoholic! I Was Disowned By The SEALS! This Will Turn Your Life Around In 2025!
yeah before before everything that i've done in my life is the worst part once you get into it it's you're confronting reality which isn't always as bad yes before is horrible and also when you're talking i was thinking you know it's really either way you're making a decision in those moments like when you're thinking about your life tour the decision is do i accept the unchecked box or do i accept this mental torment that i'm going to inflict upon myself that's very true
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And I think, yeah, when they talk to people on their deathbeds and stuff, the worst thing is the unchecked box. It's got to be. Not that I walked out and put the mic down and walked off.
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How do people misunderstand you? Because they like you, they see you on a screen and they consume a certain type of content you make. They probably don't know the full context of your life. But how do you think people have misunderstood you?
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When I say that, I really mean because when you're a content creator, like we both are, like you say, you're constant. It's constant. It's constant. It's constant. And there's no light at the end of the tunnel in terms of there's not like you get off this train at some point. If you get off, you fail effectively. That is how it works. So how do you think?
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Because if I said to you, you're going to be doing this forever, like you're going to be doing what you do now for the next 30 years.
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Could you see yourself ever stopping?
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You think you're capable of that?
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How many subscribers have you got total? It's like, I mean, your main channel's got almost, what, 10 million?
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say, 20, 25 million subscribers, you would be okay with just walking away and saying, could you see that reality in the future?
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Is there anything that it would take for you to get there? Is it like, would you need... Is there anything, any catalyst, you think?
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Everybody needs an unchecked box, don't they?
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It's like a...
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What's your journey like been with your own mental health? Because you talked about PTSD. You talked about becoming a bit of an alcoholic as well at one point. What's that journey been like? What's that sort of overlaid across your story?
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Why?
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You still have those demons.
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Everybody has their demons to some degree, whether it's, you know, it's a spectrum of how strong those demons can be and how much control they can have over your decisions. What have you learned about dealing with demons that might be of any, because you've been to therapy, a lot of people haven't, a lot of people maybe even haven't arrived at the awareness that they need to go yet.
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What have you learned about dealing with demons that might be useful to anybody listening?
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And this is why Perfect Head has become so important in my life, because previously, when it came to energy products, I had to make a trade-off that I wasn't happy with. Typically, if I wanted the energy, I had to deal with high sugar. I had to deal with jitters and crashes that come along with a lot of the mainstream energy products.
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Your father, you mentioned earlier that you were raised by a single mother in the basement at least. How has your father been a sort of key figure in the man that you are? And we talk about demons and the demons that you have.
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It's interesting because even before that, there was something that it seemed to happen to you in that basement, which I consider to be the starting place, which is awareness.
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It's like self-awareness. And with that self-awareness came responsibility. You said, actually, I need to stop blaming my mum and dad. Yeah. I have a role to play in this. Yeah. And that's really, really hard. It is. I think for everybody to be truly aware of how you might be contributing to the circumstances of your own life.
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There's a lot of men that aren't at the place yet where they'll speak openly about their demons and how they're feeling and their emotions and stuff, especially, I mean, people that have been in combat and that are seen as big, tough guys, right?
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What would you say to those men that maybe... Because we all feel things. Sure. Most of us don't have the tools to know how to talk about it. We don't have the environment. Maybe we don't have friends or outlets where we can talk about it. And a lot of men don't feel like they can... Even I was one of those men that...
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Probably until about the last, I'd say, two years, I would never tell my partner if I was having a bad day. If I was feeling bad, if I was anxious in any way, if I was struggling with something, I would always try and shield everyone from it. Like I thought as a man, my job was to just take it, take everything, absorb, hold. But what I came to learn is that it is coming out.
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yeah but in with unintended consequences and in unexpected ways it's coming out somewhere maybe in my mood um maybe in my health maybe in my habits um maybe in my search for quick fixes of dopamine it's going to come out so i ran the experiment one day of just like sitting my partner down and saying look i'm not i haven't been honest with you this is how i feel and this is what's happened that's what i'm going through yeah and it was such a
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important pivotal experiment in my life.
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You know what I mean? Yeah, I do. So I'm just wondering what journey you've been on with opening up.
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And what's your relationship been like with responsibility? And what's your view on the importance of that broadly?
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The other thing I've noticed is that when I don't state them, especially in the context of a relationship, is you live misunderstood.
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So like, let's play out the scenario that you struggle to urinate in front of other people. Your wife might always start to wonder... why you don't want to go to certain places or when you're in those places, you're acting strange. She'll misunderstand that as maybe he's X, Y, and Z. And then you're dealing with a problem. You're dealing with another set of problems.
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He's like, he's cheating on me. No, no, no. Actually, it was just, we didn't have an environment, a safe space where we could talk about the actual issue. So I've created like five other issues. And I have that in my life where I'm like, Fuck, if I just told the truth... It's a shame, Matt, sometimes I have to get to the, like, bust-up moment, turn around and say, you've got this totally wrong.
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And the reason why you've got this totally wrong is because I didn't tell you the truth. Yeah. And it's led you off down a path which is really unfortunate and it's caused us more hurt than me just being honest with you. Yeah. But it's... Look, I'm not saying it's going to be easy. I think...
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Like many of the things you've described in your story, first you have to just take one step in that direction. I'm not saying like pull your partner in and like offload or offload to a therapist today. It's just you have to run the experiment to build the evidence and have it compound and go, actually, this is a better life than secrecy. I agree. Keeping everything to yourself.
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When I interview people, there's always questions I know that they get asked all the time. And I'm like, do I ask him the question that I know he probably gets asked all the time? But you're so good at telling stories.
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You really, really are great at telling stories. Thank you. So there's really two questions I wanted to end with. I guess we've got a couple of minutes, but the first question is, to be a great storyteller, and we're all telling stories whether we know it or not, is there any principles that you've come to learn that you could give me to tell better stories?
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I'll go and tell people to check it out on your channel, but is there a particular story on your channel that is, this was the cliche question, that is your favorite? Oh, man. It's like asking your favorite kids, right?
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We have a closing tradition on this podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next, not knowing who they're leaving it for. And the question left for you is, what do you see as the most desirable future for the new media podcast world?
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Amen. John, thank you so much for everything that you do. Thank you. It's really, really incredible. It's really incredible. You run a phenomenal media company, which I don't think people truly understand.
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You and Nick run a phenomenal media company, which I think, I don't know if people understand the scale and size of that media company, but it's truly impressive. And you have this awesome graphic novel.
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The illustrations and all the, I think you call them illustrations. The illustrations are phenomenal. Yeah, we're very proud of it. Thank you so much for all that you do. I'm someone that loves, is absolutely enthralled by all these stories. I love mysteries. I love unsolved mysteries and I love true crime.
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So, and as we were saying before we got recording, me and my partner, when she lets me listen to these things in bed and it helps me sleep and your channel is by far and away the best at
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this thank you because you're such a gifted storyteller thank you and as you've been speaking to me today i've been thinking ah that's i've been trying to piece together what makes you so brilliant as a storyteller but um i guess it's a long journey a family influence and generally probably you know the experience that you've had so thank you for what you do thank you for your time today as well and it's been an honor to learn about your story of reinvention but also to hear some of these stories which by the way i need to go and figure out this fucking what's it called the avalon pass the diatlov pass the diatlov pass pretty well thank you and it's an honor to be on your show really thank you so much for having me i appreciate you
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I'm going to let you into a little bit of a secret. You're probably going to think me and my team are a little bit weird, but I can still remember to this day when Jemima from my team posted on Slack that she changed the scent in this studio. And right after she posted it, the entire office clapped in our Slack channel.
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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
MrBallen (Former Navy SEAL): I Wasn't Sleeping, I Became A Raging Alcoholic! I Was Disowned By The SEALS! This Will Turn Your Life Around In 2025!
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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
MrBallen (Former Navy SEAL): I Wasn't Sleeping, I Became A Raging Alcoholic! I Was Disowned By The SEALS! This Will Turn Your Life Around In 2025!
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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
MrBallen (Former Navy SEAL): I Wasn't Sleeping, I Became A Raging Alcoholic! I Was Disowned By The SEALS! This Will Turn Your Life Around In 2025!
There's something really important in that. That's really also critical to business, but just really critical to anyone that's a professional or in a relationship, which is if you make a mistake, you get the second opportunity, which is how you respond to the mistake you made.
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
MrBallen (Former Navy SEAL): I Wasn't Sleeping, I Became A Raging Alcoholic! I Was Disowned By The SEALS! This Will Turn Your Life Around In 2025!
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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
MrBallen (Former Navy SEAL): I Wasn't Sleeping, I Became A Raging Alcoholic! I Was Disowned By The SEALS! This Will Turn Your Life Around In 2025!
And in fact, so many times in business, you know, when I was running a marketing business, we'd have clients and we might drop the ball in some way, but we could actually make the relationship stronger than it was before the mistake by how we responded. So making a quick phone call, apologizing, taking responsibility,