The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Key Moment: Harvard Professor Reveals The Biggest Lies About Exercise & Weight Loss!
Fri, 28 Mar 2025
Dr. Daniel Lieberman exposes the truth about cardio and fat loss, why modern shoes might be harming our feet, and how our quest for comfort is quietly weakening our bodies. This is a compassionate conversation for anyone who's ever struggled with knowing what to believe about exercise. Listen to the full episode here - Spotify - https://g2ul0.app.link/fUjTMBVO4Rb Apple - https://g2ul0.app.link/in7zjd1O4Rb Watch the Episodes On YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/%20TheDiaryOfACEO/videos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What can we learn about running from Native American tribes?
In the first chapter of your book, you say that you went to visit the Native American tribe, and I'm going to try and perhaps pronounce this, the Tarahumara. Tarahumara. And they're famous for their long running. Yes. What did you learn about running from them?
Well, you know, they have been famous for well over 100 years. I mean, many people have gone to study the Tarahumara and have commented on their amazing ability to run. But what I really learned from them is that for them, physical activity is spiritual. You know, there's this book, Born to Run, that describes their running and calls them a hidden tribe of super athletes.
They're not hidden, and they're not super athletes. And the one thing that the book missed was that the main impetus for the running, these famous long-distance races, is that it's a form of prayer. It's really very beautiful. And it's a metaphor for life. And it's also an opportunity to bet in sports and all that. It's all wrapped into one. And what I've learned was that this actually used to be
almost universal among Native American populations, Native American tribes. Everybody had long distance races and ball games, and they all had a spiritual element. It's just that they've retained their traditions because they're in a very remote part of Mexico that's essentially inaccessible. We all used to do this. All humans used to do this.
In fact, if you look around the world, every population has a tradition of endurance events.
Some of the subject matter you talk about in your book, but also outside of your book, is how we used to run in terms of, you know, I was at the foot doctor. What's it called? I don't know what they're called. Podiatrist. That's what I said. Podiatrist. What did I say? But I went to the podiatrist the other day because I got this, what's it called when you're...
I'm going to point at it on my foot. This part of my foot here started to get lots of pain. Plantar fasciitis. That's it. Plantar fasciitis. I started to get some plantar fasciitis. That's so fun. And it was just this ongoing pain. And they prescribed me some insoles. I stood on a couple of machines, some soft stuff.
And they measured my foot and took this scan of it and said, right, basically you're standing wrong. your arch is a bit too flat, take these insoles and wear them in all of your shoes. And I just, I always think in these moments when someone prescribes me something that's not natural, I go,
why like where did i go wrong and i think that's the key question where did i go wrong who lied to me to the point now that at 30 years old i have these bloody insoles that i have to put in all my shoes because presumably that's not natural presumably my my ancestors don't have bloody insoles yeah so
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