My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 32: Just the 32 of Us
Wed, 12 Feb 2025
It's time to Rewind with Karen & Georgia! This week, K & G recap Episode 32: Just the 32 of Us. Georgia talked about the life and death of pop singer Selena and Karen gave the lowdown on the Zankou Chicken Murders. Listen for all-new commentary, case updates and much more! Whether you've listened a thousand times or you're new to the show, join the conversation as we look back on our old episodes and discuss the life lessons we’ve learned along the way. Head to social media to share your favorite moments from this episode! Instagram: instagram.com/myfavoritemurder Facebook: facebook.com/myfavoritemurder TikTok: tiktok.com/@my_favorite_murder Now with updated sources and photos: https://www.myfavoritemurder.com/episodes/rewind-with-karen-georgia-episode-32-just-the-32-of-us My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories, and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. The Exactly Right podcast network provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics, including true crime, comedy, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What is the focus of Episode 32 in 'Rewind with Karen & Georgia'?
Hello, and welcome to Rewind with Karen and Georgia. That's right. That means it's Wednesday, and that means we're recapping one of our old shows with all new commentary, updates, and insights.
And today we're recapping episode 32, which we named just the 32 of us. I thought we were done with the number puns.
I can hear myself, and this may not have happened, but I can absolutely hear myself in my memory going, yeah, but it's so funny. We have to go back just for this one.
Yeah, like, you know, you can't, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, right? That's right. If there's a good one. If there's just the 32 of us. It's pretty funny.
It's so good. So join us today as we take you back to September 1st, 2016, when Sausage Party was still in theaters.
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Chapter 2: Who are Karen and Georgia, and what is their podcast about?
Classic. It's a classic. And now we can all be day one listeners. Okay, here's the intro of episode 32.
Hello, welcome to My Favorite Murder. My name's Karen, and I sure love murder. How about you, girl over there?
This week, girl over there is played by Georgia Hartstark. Georgia Hartstark. Georgia Hartstark. And gee, I love murder, too.
And, of course, Engineer Steven is here standing by with his mustache and his... His... Stuff.
His equipment. His general style. His general style. Xavier Morris. Supporting. Of the Purrcast.
Aw, thank you.
Yeah, welcome. Who did I... Still trapped in the basement. Vince, so we have our murderinos that we call people who listen to this podcast. I don't, we didn't make that up. No, we didn't. But that's what people call it. Okay. And Vince said that, so Steven has the per cast about cats. And Vince said that the people who listen should be called perverts.
With three R's. Right. Just to really emphasize.
You got to do that.
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Chapter 3: Why did Georgia and Karen decide to revisit Episode 32?
She was so hacky. The town killed her. The city killed her. She got killed. Do you have housekeeping? I mean, I have things I just generally want to talk about. Well, I'll say mine that are internet specific. That are important. Yeah, mine are important.
Yours aren't. And you be quiet because it's my turn. How much I hate TV. Oh, did you watch the last night? I fucking I just I don't. There's a block and I mean to and I haven't. No, the answer is no. Well, then you don't want his DNA inside you.
And you'll never get to have it. He was also on Colbert. We actually watched it at work because enough people at my work like him that we were all like, let's watch. Is he cute? He is perfection. There's something like Disney-esque about the scale of the size of his eyes to the rest of his face.
It's ridiculous. His nose looks...
Like he got a nose job. It's so perfectly shaped. And then in general, he just has the, he has the charisma, but he's very low key. Like he's smart enough to know not to overplay it. We're talking about Riz Ahmed. We're talking about Riz Ahmed.
Britain's own. And he's got the British accent, man. Oh, dude. The like street British accent.
Yeah.
Stop it. But he can do any British accent. Well, I guess I only heard, I only heard him speaking in a British accent when he was rapping. So I was like.
Yeah, he was trying to, he was turning it a little bit on, but. Okay, well that. But also I saw him in the, the Unwilling Fundamentalist. What's that movie? He stars in a movie called. About an fundamentalist that doesn't want to be.
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Chapter 4: What is the story behind the fan club president and Selena?
Chapter 5: How did Selena's career and life unfold before her tragic death?
And I remember like even listening to the music, just feeling really sad.
Were you little when she died? So you didn't know yet?
I mean, I knew it affected because I would still go over to my family's houses and stuff.
She was huge. She was like Madonna times 20. Well, I'll tell you all about it. Oh, okay.
Did I, Stephen, Quintanilla? Quintanilla.
Oh, I don't. I mean, I'm not Mexican, but I don't know how to speak Spanish. Okay, I wrote it down like I was very... She didn't know how to speak Spanish either.
Oops.
Oh, Karen, your doorbell phone is ringing. Selena Quintanilla Perez was born on April 16th, 1971 in Lake Jackson, Texas. and was called the Mexican-American Madonna. Oh, I must've known that. I've watched the movie with J.Lo. I haven't seen it. Wonderful piece of art. Gosh, she's beautiful. They were both beautiful.
And she was poised to become a crossover success when her death turned her into a legend. Selena's father discovered Selena's quote, perfect timing and pitch and helped his kids form a band. And she was like nine years old when they started performing. Wow. The band, once her parents lost their family restaurant, the band became the family's main source of income and they were in poverty.
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Chapter 6: What are some behind-the-scenes insights from Georgia and Karen?
uh, Marderos believed that this, he looked around and he saw how few, um, Middle Eastern restaurants there were with so, with such huge populations of people that would appreciate the food. There was almost no food to feed them. That was like from their home. Totally. Um, so they opened their first restaurant, um, at the corner of sunset and Normandy, um, in East, uh, East LA. Hello. Hey. And, um,
The LA Times said it's the best roast chicken in town at any price, which is kind of really saying something for the old she-she restaurants they have here. The Zagat Guide would say that Zanku was one of America's best meal deals.
Oh my goodness.
America, not just LA, which is cool. Jonathan Gold, who's a very famous food writer, he adores Zancou chicken, reviewed it and said the chicken was superb and nothing in heaven or on earth compares with the garlic paste. Oh my God, that garlic paste. The garlic paste is what everybody talks about. And it was invented by Marderos' grandmother. Shut up. Shut up.
And his mother makes it, made it all by hand. So it was a secret recipe. People still don't know what's in it. It's this white paste that you get with your chicken and your rice and your hummus and your pita. It's this little tub. It's like on the side. And it is.
tangy and pungent and garlicky but there's something else going on it's kind of like butter like you can't figure out all you want to do is eat it and put everything that you eat into it then for the next day you're belching garlic yes it's like filled with garlic you reek of it's it's quite an experience yes So that was kind of their secret weapon.
Aside from the fact that they figured out that other rotisserie chicken places, they realized you have to move the chicken itself and you have to play with the temperatures. You can't just keep it on one temperature all the time.
So they basically kind of went in there and tried to figure out how to give people who wanted to eat authentic Middle Eastern food, the best version of that food and not just go like here, here's whatever. Which is amazing. Apparently one time on Curb Your Enthusiasm, Larry David referred to it as chicken so good it could end the rift in the Middle East.
So like everybody in LA knows about this food. It was also in a Beck song. That's right. That's right. There's a list on Wikipedia of all the popular culture things. There was somebody on Buffy the Vampire Slayer also liked to eat there. So they started as this hole in the wall chicken place. And after, I would think like over two years, they were making $2 million a year. Holy shit.
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