Jordan B Peterson: You Need To Listen To Your Wife! We've Built A Lonely & Sexless Society! If You & Your Partner Do This, You'll Divorce!

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Jordan Peterson 0:00
we know that couples that live together before the marriage actually increases the probability that the relationship will fail and the reason for that is very straightforward and talking of things that risk harming relationships the subject we've never spoke about before is oh yeah and that's a huge reason sex has disappeared people need to stop doing that jordan peterson the psychology professor people love or love to hate he's undeniably one of the greatest intellectual phenomenons on the planet and many view him as the ultimate father figure welcome back mr peterson We're built for maximal challenge. And that isn't the way we view ourselves in the modern world. We view ourselves as built for consumption and pleasure. For example, watching pornography.
Steven 0:36
But what are the downstream consequences of that?
Jordan Peterson 0:37
Well, first of all, it's easy.
Steven 0:38
To get what?
Jordan Peterson 0:39
Sexual gratification. But does it matter? Oh, it's a catastrophe. You're not desperate anymore. And if you're going to have the true adventure of your life, you're going to need love, shame, guilt, desperation, and pain. Like, it's hard. But now, people take the easy road, like avoiding conflict, for example. I spent a lot of time studying evil that arises when good men hold their tongue. Now, you may suffer some consequences of speaking, but retreating one step at a time defensively when it makes you sick of yourself, there's nothing worse that can happen to you. You want your life to be unbearably entertaining. And maybe all the sorrow and catastrophe has to be part of it, because otherwise there's There's nothing about it that's glorious.
Steven 1:18
Over the last two years, you've been through a particularly difficult time. And because you've been through that, have you been able to develop a strategy that helps you go through suffering?
Jordan Peterson 1:26
Yeah, oh, definitely.
Steven 1:27
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Steven 2:21
And it's my belief and suspicion that there's a lot of people wrestling with God at the moment. And when I say the word God, I don't necessarily mean some man in the sky with a beard. What I really mean is a greater meaning, a greater sense of meaning. The world feels like, and you speak to this in the book, that it's gotten more and more individualistic, and there's consequence to that.
Jordan Peterson 2:41
Fractionated is another way of thinking about it, right? Because you can think about it as individualistic, and that's a positive spin, so to speak. But alienated, isolated, and fractionated is the, what would you say, is the accompaniment to that. See, I think the case is that the liberal experiment in... Individualism only works when the conservative foundation is in place, right? If you aggregate people together and they share enough fundamental values, especially of a particular sort, then you can concentrate on the individual and individual freedom. But there's a lot of preconditions for that. And, you know, the Scottish liberals, so the ones who really established Western liberalism as a philosophical and political movement. They knew that.

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