Jeff

Yeah.

Hey, how are you doing?

Yeah, well, my wife and I, we had just been married.

We moved back to California where I grew up.

And we were living in Oceanside and one of the places where we used to go camping as a family when I was a kid was one of the places I wanted to show her.

So we packed up one weekend and I told her I was going to show her Laguna Mountain in Eastern San Diego County, East County.

We would drive through the town of Alpine, California to get there.

which you may remember from the stories about the Zoobies.

There's some strange coincidences about the area, but nonetheless, we headed up to Mount Laguna, and there we were set up for camping one night, or for the weekend, I think it was a Friday night, and we pulled in, and it was the afternoon, we set up camp, and I noticed it was empty.

We were the only ones there.

I thought that was very strange, but the campground was dead empty.

It was beautiful weather, and when the ranger came around in his little cart to say hi, I asked him about it.

He said, well, it was the first week of school.

It was the first week of school, and so, yeah, there's nobody there.

And I like camping, but...

I kind of suppose now that I look back on it, there's a certain security in a full campground that's lacking in an empty campground.

And, um, you know, I had nothing in my mind about anything weird happening or anything.

And, um, you know, we, we set up camp and, um,

And the plan was the next day to hike out and see the desert.

And that's why I love this campground because I do love the desert.