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If You're Intentional With Money, You Can Win With Money

Thu, 06 Mar 2025

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πŸ“ˆ Are you on track with the Baby Steps? Get a Free Personalized Plan Dave Ramsey & Ken Coleman answer your questions and discuss: "How do I handle my finances after a separation?" "Should we fight late payment reports?" "How can I live on my own after a breakup?" "Stop investing in order to tithe more?". Support Our Sponsors: 🌱 Get 10% off your first month of BetterHelp πŸ₯ Learn more about Christian Healthcare Ministries 🏑 Get started today with Churchill Mortgage πŸ”’ Get 20% off when you join DeleteMe 🏦 Go to FAIRWINDS Credit Union for an exclusive account bundle! πŸ₯— Save 15% on your first Field of Greens order with code RAMSEY ⛨ Find top Health Insurance Plans at Health Trust Financial πŸ’Έ To find out more about student loan refinancing, check out Laurel Road πŸ’» Visit NetSuite today to learn more πŸ—‚οΈ Use promo code RAMSEY for 18% off at The Nokbox πŸ’΅ Learn more about Timothy Plan πŸ› Get started with YRefy or call 844-2-RAMSEY πŸ” Visit Zander Insurance for your free instant quote today! Next Steps πŸ“± Watch the full episode for free in the Ramsey Network app. πŸ“ž Have a question for the show? Call 888-825-5225 Weekdays from 2-5pm ET or click here! πŸ’΅ Start your free budget today. Download the EveryDollar app! πŸ€“πŸ’ΈπŸ’° File your taxes with 100% accurate software that’s 20% of the price. πŸ“– Preorder Build a business You Love today. 🎟️ See Dave Ramsey and Dr. John Delony LIVE in a city near you Listen to more from Ramsey Network πŸŽ™οΈ The Ramsey Show   🧠 The Dr. John Delony Show 🍸 Smart Money Happy Hour πŸ’‘ The Rachel Cruze Show πŸ’Έ The Ramsey Show Highlights πŸ’° George Kamel πŸͺ‘ Front Row Seat with Ken Coleman πŸ“ˆ EntreLeadership Learn more about your ad choices. https://www.megaphone.fm/adchoices Ramsey Solutions Privacy Policy

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?

00:00 - 00:45 Dave Ramsey

Hey guys, Dave Ramsey here. Me and Dr. John Deloney are coming to a city near you on the Money and Relationships Tour. It's happening soon, so don't wait. Get your tickets at ramseysolutions.com slash tour. Live from the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, it's the Ramsey Show, where we help people build wealth, do work that they love, and create actual amazing relationships.

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00:45 - 01:05 Dave Ramsey

I'm Dave Ramsey, your host, Ken Coleman, Ramsey Personality No. 1 bestselling author and host of the new hit on Ramsey Network's Front Row Seat, where he is interviewing big names and going really deep in these interviews. It's a wonderful show. Be sure to check it out. JD is going to start this hour in Dayton, Ohio. Hi, JD. What's up?

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Chapter 2: How should you handle finances during a separation?

01:07 - 01:29 JD

Hey, Dave. Thanks for taking my call. Sure. It's an honor to speak to you. You too. I have a question. Try to get through this. About five weeks ago, my wife out of nowhere said she wanted to separate. Came out of nowhere. Our marriage definitely had its ups and downs. We've always worked through it. Some other things I found out, but...

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01:30 - 01:50 JD

Um, we're living apart right now and about two weeks into this, she split up the finances completely without even telling me. Um, so my question is, how do I best navigate this through the separation? Since we do, we are still legally and biblically married. Um, how do we navigate handling finances right now?

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01:54 - 01:56 Dave Ramsey

Um, you separate them as if you're divorced.

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00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

And then if there is an answer to prayer and reconciliation and you get back together, you recombine them.

00:00 - 00:00 JD

Okay.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

You have direct deposit on your payroll?

00:00 - 00:00 JD

Yes, and so does she.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

Yeah, go open a new checking account and have your check sent to your checking account.

Chapter 3: What steps should you take before acquiring a family business?

05:57 - 06:01 JD

So would it be, do you think I should sit down and just say, Hey, what exactly?

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06:02 - 06:03 Dave Ramsey

Yeah, I think you try to get some clarity.

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06:03 - 06:05 JD

What exactly do you have? Okay.

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06:06 - 06:22 Dave Ramsey

Well, you know, and where's my dad got money, by the way? Hello? That'd be something I'd want to know, yeah. The money that was for my taxes, it just disappeared a minute ago, and we had set that aside for taxes. It needs to be there, and it needs to go to taxes. So I need that put back like now. And no, you can't buy your boyfriend a car.

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00:00 - 00:00 JD

And there's about $20,000 set aside for we're saving up for a home. $10,000 of that came from her boss.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

I don't care where it came from. It's common property now.

00:00 - 00:00 JD

Okay.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

And you have as much right to it as she does.

00:00 - 00:00 Greg

Okay.

Chapter 4: How can you manage a significant increase in income wisely?

07:35 - 07:57 Ken Coleman

Yeah, J.D., I'm just listening to this entire exchange with Dave, and I think you've got to separate hoping and praying for this marriage from protecting yourself. Protecting yourself doesn't mean that you can't hope and pray. So it's like do the counseling, hope, pray, do everything you can that it does work out. But at the same time, you must protect yourself and stand up for yourself.

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07:58 - 08:13 Ken Coleman

In the midst of this, she's just rolling all over you. And it feels like in some cases I heard you almost making excuses for her. And I think you've got to stop that. Hoping for the best, but also have some sense and protect yourself. So there's got to be a mental approach to this.

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08:13 - 08:14 Dave Ramsey

That's a good point.

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08:14 - 08:18 Ken Coleman

alongside the emotional. And boy, my heart breaks for you, JD.

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00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

I mean, I feel for you. I can't imagine.

00:00 - 00:00 Ken Coleman

But you need a mental strategy while you're dealing with this emotional mess. And that's what Dave's telling you.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

My friend that does divorce counseling says that divorce turns a marriage into a business transaction. And so far in this conversation, you suck at this business. So you need to separate this, protect, and then come from a position of strength with an attorney in your corner of how we're going to reconcile or how we're going to split equitably under the law, not under what she wishes.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

She's got this fantasy in her head that is not reality, and she's getting ready to find that out. This is The Ramsey Show.

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Chapter 5: Why is combining finances crucial in marriage?

14:54 - 14:55 Unidentified

Cool.

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14:55 - 14:58 Derek

Yeah. So he'll be fine without anything here. He's totally good.

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14:58 - 15:08 Dave Ramsey

So basically he's, this is the, this is the transition. He's tossing you the keys and you got this puppy. So your question is how to handle the increase in income responsibly.

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15:09 - 15:34 Derek

Right, correct. I've had a, you know, my history, I've always lived pretty comfortably, but, you know, whenever I do get more money, I tend to spend it on things that are stupid and, you know, try to, you know, not spend more than I have. I'm not in debt necessarily, but not having a whole bunch of extra savings coming in. I'm 33. Are you married? I am married, one kid.

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00:00 - 00:00 Unidentified

Okay, all right.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

Well, here's the thing. Very few people do something stupid intentionally. So if left to a vacuum is where stupid sneaks in. And so what I mean is that you're being very wise right now, the opposite of stupid, in that you say, okay, I need a plan for this because if I don't have a plan, I'm going to have a problem.

00:00 - 00:00 Derek

Right.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

And so what I would do is sit down with your wife and say, write down what we're going to do with $450,000 this year. What are we going to do with it? And then do that with it.

00:00 - 00:00 Derek

Well, and the thing is, you know, talking about some of the stupid things, you know, and maybe not stupid things is not the right word, but we bought a house in the past two years. That was certainly stretching our income. So a big portion of what we make right now goes to, you know, paying the mortgage. Okay.

Chapter 6: Is a dual MD-JD degree beneficial for a legal career?

34:54 - 35:06 Sam

And currently how that's going to be paid is 60% of it is going to be grants. 30% of it is going to be scholarships through the university, and the rest of it will be paid for.

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35:06 - 35:23 Ken Coleman

That's great, but here's my question. Let me jump in, because you asked us for our thoughts on how to do this, and so my question is, why are we doing this? I mean, I understand you initially wanted to be a doctor, but now it sounds like you've fallen in love with the legal side of things. Where do you want to be 10, 15, 20 years from now? MD. MD.

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35:26 - 35:33 Dave Ramsey

Being a medical doctor and a lawyer simultaneously serves zero purpose.

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35:33 - 35:43 Ken Coleman

Yeah, and I was expecting some unicorn description here, and you don't have that. So where do you want to be 10 years, 15 years from now? Doing what? Law or medicine?

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00:00 - 00:00 Sam

So I currently work for a hospital here nearby, and I would love to continue working for them. I just thought that as far as working in their legal department, that it would be really beneficial for me to have a medical background as well. Not at all.

00:00 - 00:00 Ken Coleman

No. No. Any doctor would tell you that. It's not going to make you a better lawyer.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

You need to be smart enough to grasp the issues in the medical field of law, but you don't have to go get an MD to be an effective lawyer in the medical community. Not at all. No. That's like saying I have to be an architect to represent architects in the law field. No. Or I have to be an engineer to represent an engineer as a lawyer. No, absolutely not. Okay. No.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

I mean, I think you need to decide what you want to do, and it's all over the map. I think that's your issue. And then you can start. You've already figured out how to get the bachelors under your belt with no debt, okay? And then we say, okay, we're going to go to law school. All right, what kind of law school? It's obviously going to be a nontraditional law school.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

uh because you're not going to be able to do you know just just stop your life and go for two years with little kids and it's not you know so you're going to do some kind of a a version um i don't i think i don't know if it's still open here we used to have a version here in nashville uh that there was that um it was a night school if it's what we used to call it and you go to night school and you get your you know you can become an attorney no question you

Chapter 7: How can a young contractor navigate seasonal work challenges?

42:13 - 42:37 Rachel Cruze

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43:01 - 43:23 Rachel Cruze

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43:26 - 43:48 Dave Ramsey

Live from the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, it's The Ramsey Show, where we help people. Build wealth, do work that they love, and create actual amazing relationships. God's and Grandma's ways of handling money and life, that's what we're going to talk about here. It's a free call at 888-825-5225.

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00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

Ken Coleman, number one best-selling author, Ramsey personality, and host of The Front Row Seat, a new hit show on YouTube on the Ramsey Networks. Be sure and check him out. He's going to help me this hour. The phone number is 888-825-5225. Greg's in Dallas, Texas. Hey, Greg, how are you?

00:00 - 00:00 Greg

Hey, Dave, how are you doing? Better than I deserve. What's up? So I've gotten myself into a situation where I have a couple hundred thousand in credit card debt and loans that I've let go delinquent. And my question is, do I let it? sit there and fall off my credit report. My research showed maybe it falls off in seven years or do I attack it?

00:00 - 00:00 Greg

And the reason I ask that is we're kind of attacking my wife's debt and my truck payment. And those debts are about a hundred thousand and we're using a snowball method starting that now to, to attack those debts. And I just cannot afford to pay these other debts. And part of my question may have been answered Saturday. What the flip did you buy for $200,000 on credit cards?

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Ramsey

52.

00:00 - 00:00 Greg

And my wife is 52. It's our second marriage.

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