Jesse
Appearances
Bad Friends
Rat Island
What if he does blood work? What if he does blood work and the results come back bad breath?
Bad Friends
Rat Island
I'll throw it to you. But hey, can you edit this so it looks like it comes back to me?
Bad Friends
Rat Island
Yeah, I forgot about that. I said, why Sprite? And he goes, I don't know what fizz is.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
I did love all the music we made together, though, with the piano and your singing and the trumpet.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
And saying it's terrible. I can't believe you're doing spots. I had a spot at midnight and first time in my life canceled it.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
And you were watching it all day on your Instagram. And I just knew that he was.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
I've been trying to go to bed at night, but I stay awake till like 4 a.m. And then I still wake up at 9 a.m. And then I am tired all day.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
That was scary. I kept wanting to hang out with you so bad, but I knew it would be best to just sleep alone.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
Yeah, on the plane I had a panic attack and I was trying to like hold it together until I got to the hotel room so no one would know. And right at the end, well, when I got to the baggage claim, Bobby was like, go get me some donuts. So I'm like still trying to like hold my breathing together. And I'm ordering these donuts and the lady's taking forever and shrimp's like, come on.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
No, you didn't know. And so I get the donuts and I get on the thing. And right when we park, Bobby's like, what's going on with you? And I was like, I think I'm having a panic attack. Yeah, you were having a panic attack. And then he starts yelling to everyone, she's having a panic attack. I was like, you're making it worse.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
I just got to my hotel and tried to control my breathing, took a shower and calmed down.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
And then the show was transformative because I just could focus all my thinking just on the show and perform. And yeah, that venue was great.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
I think he loves you, but the bad breath is like venom. Like it's taking over.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
I watched the whole thing. It started at noon. I put it on my big TV and just watched it.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
Well, let's face it. We love each other, but we don't have a lot to talk about. We went to a dinner together, and they took our phones away, and it was kind of hard for us.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
We Googled it. Literally he, I was looking for restaurants. He goes, no, no, no, no. Just type in expensive restaurant. Correct. Then we found one.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
But they took our phones. They put them in little... They go, here's something quirky we do here. We'll take your phones, put it in bags.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
But... Yeah, we went into this store in Perth that was a sports vintage store. And there was some Arsenal jersey. And I saw one that I really liked. It was like my fit. But I was like, I'm such a poser if I wear this. I go, well, you teach me about Arsenal. Is that weird? And he said, are you serious?
Bad Friends
Rat Island
I will say, Bobby's been nothing but like... I was afraid if I wanted to like this team, he would get mad because that's his thing, but he's been nothing but like... No, like if you kind of like the team, you like it.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
And I realized I've always wanted to get into a sport, but I never could know where to start. And it's like certain shows like Mr. Robot and Arcane, like I love them so much, but they end. And I just, it clicked. Like sports, I get why people like them now.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
I like to see... Then Arsenal's one of the first teams to allow black people on their team.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
One of them. I don't know if the first, but they got some backlash for that. Some blacklash here.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
I'm going to Sunnyvale and Fort Worth and Dallas all next year. Colorado Springs, Rochester, New York.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
I know I'm forgetting some stuff, but it's all coming together. My tour, I'll post it, and my merch will be up too, jetskijohnson.com.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
The glasses will always be up on Rainbow Optics, but my t-shirts, I finally got an online store that'll mail them out. So if you can't go to a live show where I'll always have merch, you can buy it online finally.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
What is it like? Walk me through it because I can't, I have no idea what it is.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
No, my dad wanted to take me to a nudist colony and my mom was like, I don't want the first penis she sees to be your penis.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
I don't even remember it, but it had to have been after they were divorced, so probably around six to eight. Seven, yeah. Yeah.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
We talked about it the other day. I said, can you name one thing you can't do? And you couldn't.
Bad Friends
Rat Island
Well, because we kind of hyped it up the entire trip. And Bobby kept pulling me aside and saying, listen, I know everyone says they're the cutest animals on earth. But what if we get there and they don't like us?
Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita
NSA Perverts Caught & FIRED (Ep.148)
Hört mal. Es ist nicht so gut, dass wir einige dieser Transgender-Sex-Chats zwischen den Intel-Affizienten sehen. Was werden wir damit tun?
Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita
Epstein Files Drop Today-But How Much Will They Reveal? (Ep.149)
Also wir haben, weit über, über 250 tatsächlich. Also müssen wir dafür sorgen, dass ihre Identität geschützt wird und ihre persönliche Information. Aber außer dem, denke ich, morgen, die persönliche Information der Gefühle. Other than that, I think tomorrow, Jesse, breaking news right now, you're going to see some Epstein information being released by my office.
Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita
Epstein Files Drop Today-But How Much Will They Reveal? (Ep.149)
So we're going to see some Epstein information today. A lot of flight logs. All right.
HBO's The Last of Us Podcast
Episode 5 - “Feel Her Love”
The map you left in the theater. Impressive triangulation, by the way.
HBO's The Last of Us Podcast
Episode 5 - “Feel Her Love”
Do I look like I wanna fucking talk to you right now?
HBO's The Last of Us Podcast
Episode 5 - “Feel Her Love”
No. Me and Tommy. We split up when we got to the city. Covered more ground.
HBO's The Last of Us Podcast
Episode 5 - “Feel Her Love”
They didn't. But you two were gonna die out here. So we snuck out the next night. That's a good thing we did. You know it would've been pretty fucking good up until- Up until what?
Morning Wire
Hegseth’s Nomination Fight & U.S. v. Skrmetti | 12.5.24
Are there individuals who are born male, assigned male at birth, who at one point identify as female, but then later come to identify as male, and likewise for individuals who are assigned female at birth? Are there not such people? There are such people. I agree with that, Jesse. So it's not an immutable characteristic, is it?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
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So those who are watching, we're filming this on the day that the inauguration happened. And we just did a live earlier. Yeah, you guys were probably on there. Hopefully some of you.
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Yeah, the whole ceremony was... Did you see how tight it was in there? Yeah. Close people were... That would have driven me crazy.
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Same here. What did you guys watch? We got to pump some blood into this podcast. It seems a little down right now. She's trying.
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Youth inaction. We also watched this short video on YouTube about the day of inauguration, like what the White House staff does to like revamp the whole White House to where it suits the next president. Yeah. Like includes like changing out flooring, furniture, all this stuff.
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But one thing that they said was crazy was that during your presidency, if you're ever gifted something at the White House, once you are no longer president, that gift goes into the National Archive. Wow. And they give the example like if Barron Trump were to receive a PS5 when he's in the White House, that would have to be put into the National Archive. Holy moly.
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Unless the president purchases it at Value Market.
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What do you think? So you guys saw the SpaceX rocket blow up? Oh, psycho, dude. No. Whoa. Okay. No. You were in Montana. So you probably weren't on social media a lot. Hold on. Let me find it real quick. It blew up on purpose or what? Wait, let me show them the thing first. It blew up on purpose? Not on purpose.
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She sent it to me, though.
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She sent it, and she says, you will know. What did you say?
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There will be signs. I'm like, that was just a rocket launch. Lily, that was SpaceX. That was not God, that was Elon. She got mad at me. She's like, how do you know? I said, because it's on the news. Oh, show me then.
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But there's another dude that caught it. They're flying in a plane and they got on video. Jeez, man.
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Speaking of stuff in the sky though, News Nation... Yeah. When this comes out, it will be a week behind. But they had a whistleblower by the name of Jacob Barber. Say his name. Say his name, Jacob Barber.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
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But it says, for the past 30 years, he's worked for both official and unofficial capacity for the United States government and its partners in the intelligence community. But basically he talked about he was on one of the teams, the retrieval teams for UAPs and UFOs. And they showed a video of them picking up a UAP that was literally looked like a giant egg.
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But he had some crazy, crazy stories. What do you say? One of them was him and his team went and picked up these boxes. So he was a helicopter pilot. So he would fly over, they would hook it up, and he would fly it to whatever base that he had to fly to.
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but this one it was this box and i think there was like five guys on the team including him and they picked up this box they had no idea what was in this box it was like in the middle of nowhere yeah picked it up flew back and the next day they all felt super sick and then they all ended up in the hospital all their hair fell out and he said his skin on his arm was just coming off in globs what
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Was it like nuclear? I mean, it had to have been some type of radiation, but they didn't. He said that with the intel, they probably didn't know what was in that box or that it was radioactive. Heck yeah. Because he's picked up radioactive stuff before. He says that it's like hazmat suits, like all this precautionary stuff. None of that.
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And all these dudes like... And this thing was just sitting out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. How'd they know about it? This is the crazy part that he talked about. They're called psionics. And so when he was doing this stuff, he was working for a private corporation that had something to do with military industrial complex. Yeah, like a contractor.
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But these contractors and stuff, they use these people called psionics, which are basically the Stargate people. Remember Stargate from CIA where they could see where certain stuff is? Yeah. So they're called psionics, and they use psychic ability to find and summon UFOs. Dude, this is what we've been talking about.
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And the guy's like, well, what do you say to people that say, like, this is the craziest? Like, I don't know about that. The guy's like, it's 100% real. And he's like, in fact, every reconnaissance mission they went on, or not reconnaissance, retrieval mission that they went on, they were within, like, a 300-foot area where the psionics said that it was going to be at.
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So the egg-shaped one, the psionic person was like, this is exactly where it is, gave the coordinates, and within like 300 feet, it was right there. Dude, that's not good. He had the craziest stories, though. Like one, he said... He was on his way. He knew that he was picking up a UAP. He said it was a disc-shaped one. And he said he was flying. And all of a sudden, he was overcome with emotions.
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And he's like, this is so weird. He's like, maybe I'm tired. I don't know what's happening right now. And then he said he flew right over the thing in his helicopter. And he said he just started bawling, crying. Because he felt this energy coming off of it. And then he said, it felt like something jumped into, he said, it felt like it jumped into my soul. What?
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And he said, but it was this, and he started crying in this interview. This is like a hard military dude. And he's like, he said, it was the most, he's like, I was overcome with this presence of just like, it was like love. And it was like this maternal feeling.
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feminine love that like literally came up inside of me and i felt so much at peace but also afraid and he's like and ever since then that feeling has never left me and he attributes it to god yeah that sounds just like the um you know yeah what is the uh the heaven book
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Yeah. We talk about this. God's when it's like this maternal overwhelming love.
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I don't know. There's that one whistleblower that said that Lockheed has a... I keep on forgetting the word. What was the guy doing? Starts with an R. Retrieval. Oh, yeah. They have their own retrieval teams where it's like ex-military. They go out, guns blazing, pick it up, bring it back to wherever. And that's not a government agency. No, it's a contract.
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Yeah, that sell weaponry to the U.S. government. Cool. It's so weird. But he talked about this one mission that he went on. I forget the terminology he used, but it was like... It's like RUV or RTV or something like that. But it was basically these hard Panasonic laptops that had very sensitive information on them regarding, he believed, UAPs, UFOs. Yeah.
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And he said the location of where they were at were in the Sierra Nevada mountains. So they had to fly up into the mountains, retrieved them, brought them back, realized that the hard drives were not on there. Then they're like, oh, well, we got new intel. They're at this one lake at a very high altitude, flew to that lake.
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They were in a steel box 20 feet underwater, retrieved them, and then all of a sudden there's gunfire. So they had to shoot their way out. And he believes that their contractor set them up to eliminate them as a source. Like, you guys know too much now. Who shot? He believes that it was their contractor.
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Okay. And so I'm probably butchering the story. You guys should just go watch our news nation. But he's like, then we set up our own reconnaissance mission against the security at this, their employer.
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And basically like, don't mess with us again. And they're like, all right. That's a dirty world, man. It was a crazy, crazy interview. Jeez. It seemed like it was out of a movie. Yeah. The stuff he was talking about. Wild stuff.
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They formed their own task group to observe UAPs, like him and his team, and they're showing some clips of them sitting in a field, and they had two dudes that were the psionic dudes, blindfolded, sitting in chairs,
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summoning these ufos this egg-shaped one he's like okay i'm locked into it now i'm i'm bringing it down to us and they saw it and then all of a sudden this other uap comes and he said it was literally a dog fight and then and they just both flew off or one of them got shot down i think the egg one got shot down and that's how they retrieved it that is so crazy like what summoning these things yeah that concept is so terrifying do you think that that's demonic
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I don't think it's probably anything good. I mean, it has to be. I don't know if it's demonic or like, I don't know, man.
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Yeah, I mean, I think.
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You talk about telepathy, too. I mean, God did say thou shall not move something with the mind.
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He said if you had the faith of a mustard seed, you could tell that mountain to throw itself into the ocean.
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And so I'm wondering, they don't do their own retrieval. They do like their own, they call it something like with watching, like they are observers or something.
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Sure. Yeah. I watched the thing once at night, the interview.
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They got pictures of it and stuff. It's hard to make out on the thing, but they said they witnessed it and they got pictures of it.
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Well, like, yeah, I mean, their motive right now is that the fact that they're doing this whole whistleblower thing. So they want to collect evidence themselves to where they're not. Yeah.
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As far as I know, they don't know where he's at.
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But there was another whistleblower on that podcast show, American Alchemy. Is that what it's called? Let me see. It's by Jesse Michaels. Yeah, American Alchemy. He brings some real big hitters onto his show. I messaged him to see if he would ever want to come on ours. But his vocabulary is better than mine. He uses some really big words. I'm like, what do you mean?
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You know who does it? Taco Bell. Their cups are too small. If you get a medium, it's tiny. Someone say it's just right.
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But he had this other whistleblower on, this Green Beret. His name was Randy Anderson. That was a really fascinating interview to watch. So this guy, Green Beret, Randy Anderson, he went to – oh, I wish I would have wrote it down. It's basically like the Navy's – or no, it was Air Force or Navy. It was like NAVSTAC or something like that.
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It's like where they have training grounds, weaponry, all this stuff. But this guy, Randy Anderson, I forget the title, but it's basically like weapons specialist. So he has to memorize how to use every single weapon known to man, how to operate it and how to teach it. And so that includes foreign and domestic weapons.
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weaponry and he was at this training ground and him and this other green beret guy were called in they had to go through this whole process and they're observing this different type of weaponry uh that was from the avid adversaries whether it be china russia or whatever and they're like okay we gotta show you something else and they got in this elevator and he said the whole place it looks pretty outdated like it's from like the 80s or 90s yeah
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And so we went in this elevator and this elevator, he said, I don't know how far down we went, but we went really far down in it. And he said, the door's open and there's a new security checkpoint. And he said, but everything was just super modernized and like very high tech. And he's just like, okay. And Jesse's asking, like, did you ask, like, what am I doing on here?
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He's like, no, you don't ask that stuff. You're just like, you're a soldier. And it's like, yeah, whatever you want us to do, we'll do it. But then they walked him to this room, and on a plaque to this room, it said, off-world technology.
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Off-world? Off-world technology. And he looked at the other Green Beret guy, and they're both like, what the heck, dude? And he said, we walked in and first thing that we saw was this, he said it was like this metallic orb thing just hovering. And he said, it looked, he's like, you got close to it.
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And he said, the only way I could describe it is like, there seemed to be like almost like a field around it, like a mirage. Kind of like, it was just like... Yeah.
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And he's just like observing it. And then there's this other thing that he walked up to and he said the only way you could describe it is like he's like, it looks like you would like place your hand in it and like grab it like a gauntlet or like a shield kind of thing.
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But then he said there's like this pad on it that looked like it was like crystal, but it looked like it would like display numbers or something like or like like display words or something like it looked like a screen or something like a digital panel. But like but glyphs. But but then he said when he was looking at all of a sudden these things are popping up on it.
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He said the only way I can describe it is it looked like Egyptian, like hieroglyphics.
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He said, like, I just, like, kind of, like, froze. And one of the head guys was like, you all right? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm good. And didn't ask questions about it. And they, like... Ask questions. You're not allowed to.
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That's crazy. Well, he said they do this constantly for this stuff to find, like, this, um...
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No, they use these people. They put them through tests without their knowledge to see how they react to things, see how they do this, to see if they can get advanced into a further program. He said they did that when he first started, when he was training for the Green Berets. He gave the example. They had him go like on this, I forget, it was like a six mile run or something.
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And he says as he's running, just random trees had like a number or a picture. And it was like a blue two. And he's just running and he's like, well, maybe I should make a mental note of that. And then they did the whole trail. And then later they're like, hey, write down everything that you saw. And he nailed it. And that's how he was able to advance further.
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But he said after this experience, they said, all right, you're done. And then they go up there, and he said, and that was it.
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Yeah, apparently he failed.
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I don't know. He doesn't know.
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Go, go. Or just start singing. Yeah, they're just waiting for one person. But that's crazy that he mentioned the hieroglyphics because... I saw these other videos of people talking about UFOs, UAPs, and they always mention these writings. They look like hieroglyphics. And one of them is this YouTube channel called UAP Gerb, which American Alchemy, his name is like Gerb or something. Gerber, baby.
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Gerb. But this guy, UFO Gerb, did a video, the 1965 Kecksburg, Pennsylvania UFO crash.
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Yeah, K-E-C-K-S-B-U-R-G. And what did he do there? Well, this UFO crash was a pretty cool documentary. But they first saw it over the Great Lakes, and they said it was moving. People thought it was an asteroid at first, but then it was moving not nearly as fast as an asteroid would. Then when it went over Pennsylvania, it did a 90-degree turn.
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So it was going, and then all of a sudden it went like that. crashed in the woods, and then they got accounts from all these different people, separate people that had no idea who each other were. And they all describe it as like a, they said it was like the size of maybe like an SUV, like 20, or they said like 12 to 20 feet or something, but it looked like an acorn.
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And around the rim, there had been like five plus people described it as it looked like they had hieroglyphics written on the outside of this thing. Oh my gosh. And one of the guys who gave this detailed account was a volunteer firefighter. And he was the first on the scene with his crew. And they walked up and they're like, because they all thought it was a plane crash.
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So they showed up thinking that, okay, we got to rescue people, put out a fire. Could you imagine? They said this acorn UFO was just sticking in the dirt. And they're like, what? And he said, within five minutes, military was there with guns. They said, get out of here. This is a secure location now.
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and they were forced off the location lucky they survived dude yeah but he said to this day well this was in the 90s when he was talking about this or maybe the 80s he said that um both his son and daughter have joined the military different brand like air force and navy or something yeah and they're not able to advance further in the program because their name is attached to their father's
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And like, cause the, the one, his daughter was like, um, she works, I forget something, but looking up records and saw her father's name and it said something like, uh, high priority or something like that to where he's on this list now to where. Yeah. It flagged him. Yeah. He's definitely flagged the list world. Dude. And it was just crazy.
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Sorry. But the writings and stuff, there's been so many people that I've talked about, they see these writings that look like hieroglyphics.
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Why does it say do not rip off tag?
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Oh yeah.
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She's like, no words. Oh, he said, okay, do you want to just move on?
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I think one of the spookiest stories in scripture is when they encountered the demon-possessed man or something. And they said, like, I know Jesus and I know the apostle Paul, but who are you? Yeah. And because, like, they didn't have that power. That's so scary. Like, we know Paul, but who are you?
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Speaking of scary and brutal, though, did you know that regarding the UFOs...
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Did you see that video of, there was, like, this couple there in a hot tub, like, in their backyard was, like, just dense woods. Oh, no. Did you see this?
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And they're, like, it's at night, and they're, like, a... Yeah. Like, the man's like, oh, hopefully it's not a panther. He's like, oh, it's probably a raccoon or something. They're looking around, and the lady has her flashlight on her phone, and she's just doing that. And then she goes, and she's like, it's a panther. It's a panther.
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And it's like for me to view that pillar, dude, like six feet away. It's just staring at him like that.
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Ancient wisdom, it said.
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This is confusing. Why didn't you tell us before we started recording?
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I would definitely do the Ancient Wisdom.
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I guess the luck one, you could, like, play the Powerball every time and win.
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Yeah, the luck's almost like a cheat code.
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Hey, Andrew, hit us with that.
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That's me and Andy when we have a sleepover.
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Oh, I have seen this.
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All right, ready?
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Don't look at me. They're a part of it, too.
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Your payment is that you get to bring the jam home with you.
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By the time this comes out. They probably would have already maybe have said who bought it or what they're doing.
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But this one guy who works in IT with these big companies of switching servers, he mentioned that whenever they have to switch servers, like if they sell the company and they have to switch servers... They typically do it on the weekend and it takes about 12 hours. And that's exactly what happened to TikTok. They did it on, what was it, Friday night? Sunday night. Saturday night.
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I'm so confused on why you don't want to do it.
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Yes, Saturday night. Yeah, Saturday night. And it took 12 hours. The next day, it's like, we're back. Thank you to President Trump for doing this. Thank you so much. But people are like, yo, it's Meta that probably bought it because apparently now Facebook, they made their own TikTok profile. No videos as far as when this comes out.
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Yo, I downloaded Red Note, and then I was on TikTok, and this one guy was like, I work in cybersecurity. Do not use Red Note. Oh, no. And he said, don't even download it. I said, oh, gosh.
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yeah but yeah red note they're like immediately like banning like any videos regarding like lgbtq like anything it's like of course because it's communist china running the app yeah which is it was it was so funny though watching all these people on tiktok freak out i know
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You kind of just threw off the vibe, Lil.
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You know, they can make money on other social media platforms. Yes.
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I bet you they felt real foolish after it popped up 12 hours later.
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Speaking of meta, watch the video I just sent. I sent it to Andy and Andrew already. Or they've seen it.
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This is the best. All right. Oh, it might get flagged. Yeah. Just do it without it. It's AI of Zuckerberg, dude. It looks so scary. It's so scary.
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Did you guys watch the Zuckerberg, Joe Rogan podcast? I did not.
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I did not. I didn't watch it. I don't think I could handle it. Just based off the one clip I saw of him acting like he goes bow hunting.
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Dude, but Joe Rogan calling him out, I was like, secondhand embarrassment to the max.
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It makes me so angry. Well, I guess, do you want a song or do you not want one of those either?
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That was crazy. He's like, oh, what kind of boat do you got? He's like, I can't. It's been a while. It's been a while. Yeah, I didn't use it this season. He's like, well, what company makes it? He's like... Uh, well, I, I, I can't think of it right now.
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right there for sure because he would just be computing the perfect answer or not and he's just like i'm familiar this is zuckerberg is literally making me think of the stories regarding mothman if we want to get into mothman dude let's do you teased it a I would say the best to go listen to after this is Haunted Cosmos. Okay. They did a two-part series on Mothman, and it's so good.
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Too bad. We're not going to do a song. We're actually, we're just turning the cameras off. We're done. Josh, don't say that. No, she wants to not answer these questions that come in from our viewers.
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They break it down so well. Hopefully, we're going to do something with them soon this year. Hopefully. Hopefully.
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Where are they at? Utah.
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Not for the faint of heart. It is one of the most gory shows I've ever watched.
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As far as what I witnessed, yeah.
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Because I would ask questions because I... For those... Did we ever talk about this on the podcast? I dated a... Yes, of course we talked about it. Let's rehash this. But we were both trying to convert each other. The battle of the wits. But then they got married instead. Nacho Libre. We didn't. I married my beautiful wife, Lily.
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Who's a Christian. Yes, she is.
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Anyways, when I was, yeah, I was like really heavily researching to Latter-day Saints, Mormon, church, all that stuff. And I would ask her questions and she's like, well, I haven't been taught that yet. And I was like, well, so they don't, it's not like you get all the information up front. It's like a very gradual process.
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Did you know that the LDS church, they have one of the... I forget the terminology, but one of the greatest... It's like resources or like information regarding if like there was a war that broke out or it's like evacuation plan process. That's a worldwide thing because they have missionaries all over the world. But like U.S. embassies use the LDS evacuation stuff. Really? Yeah.
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Yeah, because they just have it down to a T. So if a nuclear war were to break out or a pandemic, the evacuation for all these missionaries goes through the LDS church. And so the U.S. Embassy and other different corporations and companies, U.S.-owned and stuff, they use the same stuff that the LDS church uses. Wow.
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But Hanukkah is telling you, yeah. And Waffles does a pretty fun thing on the Mothman. But it starts off. In 1774. Ooh. And it has to do with the Shawnee tribe.
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Mrs. 300, 125 plus 125. 1774 in West Virginia. Okay. There was this, the Shawnee tribe, and they had formed an alliance basically with the colonialists because at this time, you know, it was the American Revolution, all that stuff was happening. Okay. And, um, chief corn stock got basically, they had this peace treaty in chief corn stock of the Shawnee tribe.
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Uh, their, their tree was broken because they were like, um, what was it? The, they started taking over more of his land. And so he went to the guy that was in charge. I didn't write any of their names down. But the guy that was in charge put him in a prison with his son, and it was basically to keep him hostage so that the Shawnee tribe wouldn't attack the fort and stuff. Yeah.
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And while he was being held hostage, there was this American that was killed by a Native American, but it wasn't Shawnee. Yeah. But these people formed this basically group and like, we got to kill Cornstalk. We got to kill a Shawnee. And so they went in there.
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Yeah. They went in there, killed his son, killed other Shawnee people that were in this prison, shot Chief Cornstalk. I think they said like eight times or something. But before he died, he placed a curse on them.
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And he said, basically, you shot me when I came here in peace. And basically, I curse this land. You will forever be haunted. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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scary then we started to see in the 1960s stuff in the same area where chief cornstalk was shot that's where we started seeing appearances of this mothman that was the first appearance like there was not that we know okay yeah or that was well televised and stuff so in the 60s what did they start seeing Well, so there's a lot of weird stuff that happened.
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I'm just going to try to wing it a little bit. People were reporting seeing this winged figure, demon-looking thing with red eyes. And this group of people talked about their driving past this old manufacturing place where they used to make weapons. And they saw this thing up on the roof. And they got out and they were like, what is that? Is that a man? No, it's this giant wing thing.
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Freaked out, started driving, and they're driving, and this thing was flying right beside them, and they're going, like, 70 miles an hour, still right beside them. And they said it was screeching at them, too. Oh, that's terrifying. And they hit 100 miles an hour, and it was still tracking with them. And then they, like, pulled into, like, the police station or something, and it flew off.
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But there's so many people without, before this hit the newspaper, there was like within this week span or whatever, there was like 10 accounts of people encountering this Mothman. That's what they called it. But along with that, people started reporting in the same area, UFOs.
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And this is the creepiest one. It was in 1966. There were many people reporting UFOs that were close to this World War II weapons factory. And then this one encounter, actually a couple people encountered this, but this one man talked about this. He was driving, just your normal average dude, driving at night, and all of a sudden this UFO just...
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comes down right in the middle of the road slams on brakes gets out of his truck and this man walks out of the ufo and they said he was just not he didn't look right like kind of almost uncanny valley yeah but he had this giant grin on his face oh no no And he said he was speaking telepathically with a man, and his name was Indrid Cold. Indrid Cold.
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And they said he was just asking the strangest questions, like questions that a normal human wouldn't ask, like just weird questions. I forget what the questions were, but they're like, it didn't make sense. Yeah. Then he would get in his UFO and boom, take off. And smiling? This is what's creepy. This is a sketch of what the guy said he kind of looked like. Dude. Look at that.
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Or if it attracts other things. Tell you, Haunted Cosmos, they broke it down pretty well of like,
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yeah these spirits and i haven't listened to me i'm excited um but then it was in 1967 in this uh was it was it what's the town called it's like uh sure i thought i wrote it down i thought it was like pleasanceville or something like that we should go to the exact location where blair witch project was filmed wakaiva yeah let's do it was it yeah it was filming wakaiva
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Anyways, in 1967, so after all these people were seeing the Mothman and these UFOs and just crazy stuff. Ingrid? Yeah. Indrid. Indrid Cold. It's I-N-D-R-I-D Cold. Indrid Cold. Indrid Cold. Got it. Very weird name. Yeah. 1967, in this town in West Virginia, they had this bridge. It's called the Silver Bridge Bridge.
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And while people were driving, they said that they saw the Mothman fly up onto the bridge. And then within minutes after people reporting the Mothman up on the bridge, the bridge collapsed.
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And 20 minutes after people reported it. And 46 people died on that bridge.
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But they said anytime they would see this Mothman, something terrible would happen.
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Like someone would die, a bridge would collapse, but it goes even further. Apparently it's not just a West Virginia and US thing. It's a worldwide thing.
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Yes, we ask these questions and yes, we do. We don't try to guess like Lily, but that's what we do. Anyways. Anyways. Anyways.
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There's other people describing the exact same thing?
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yeah so um examples of other people seeing around the world chernobyl no yep the nuclear power plant uh days before it exploded and stuff they the people working at the chernobyl power plant reported seeing this winged creature man they called it the blackbird of chernobyl oh yikes yeah whoa then some people reported seeing the mothman in new york city the morning of 9 11
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Yeah, and that's the picture of the supposed Mothman on New York on 9-11. That is wild. That goes way deeper than I thought it did, dude.
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I don't know.
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I don't know. But then, apparently, in 2019, and kind of like currently, too, people still see it, the Chicago Airport. Mm-hmm. Tons of people at the Chicago airport are seeing the Mothman, especially in 2019. Talking about security, air traffic control, and pilots all report seeing this winged creature man standing at least eight feet tall with red beating eyes. It's like a hotspot for him.
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Yeah. But what's so creepy, too, is so this I really I swear I wrote the name down of this town, West Virginia. But after these people seeing the UFO and the Mothman, all this stuff, a lot of people were visited by what they called the men in black.
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And the way these people described it will, I mean, it sends shivers down my spine. They said they're tall and like really tall, slender. One person reported their hand, their fingers were abnormally long.
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And like they would go. They're pale, right? Very pale. It says they look like they're almost like wearing wigs. They don't act like a normal human. And he said like this one dude was like shaking the hand of one of them. And like it's like they've never shook a hand before. They didn't know how to. But then they'd ask really weird questions.
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And there's one where this guy walks in and there's like this secretary and he's just acting super strange. And he's like, what is that? What is that? And he was pointing to a ballpoint pen. And she's like, this is a ballpoint pen. He said, wow. He said, can I have that? And she's like, sure. He's like, thank you. And then just like left.
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Yeah. What is the purpose of a rubber duck? There's this one encounter to where this guy... In this town in West Virginia, the family reports on this of this men in black man comes to the door, very strange. And he's like, they said that they forget his last name. They said it was very common, but they remember his first name being Tiny. His name was Tiny something.
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But they said their father was like six foot two or something like that. And they said that this man towered over their father. Comes to the door, and he says, does such and such live here? Talking about the man. And they're like, yeah, he lives here. And he's like, can I speak with him for 40 minutes?
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He actually has this inheritance from a family member, but I just need to discuss a few things with him. And he says, may I enter your home?
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But they said, the Hanukkah cosmos they talked about, it's very weird of like, And whether it's demonic or some sort of spirit thing, they always have to have permission to go into a home. That's what rumors of vampires. Yeah. And like the black eyed children. I don't know if we should talk about that sometime, too. It's scary. So scary.
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But they always have to ask or they ask permission to enter the home.
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yeah oh interesting yeah it's weird um but he goes in and he's just asking all these really bizarre questions like do you have any scars on you where are they how long are the scars and like how many children do you have what are their ages all these weird questions
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and they're making dinner at this point and they're like hey do you want anything to eat and he's like no i'm on a diet but i will i would like a glass of water in 10 minutes and they're like okay but they said his he was he was very pale but then when he's talking it sounded like he had asthma he started like wheezing And they said he just started turning bright red.
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And he says, I'll take that glass of water now. And he gave him a glass of water and he pulled up this big yellow pill, swallowed it, and his color went back to normal.
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what in the world man and just ask weird questions bro but that's what these people were experiencing with the ufos the mothman the silver bridge collapsing and it's like what the heck is going on what does that mean i don't know but i'm like i wonder if this place in western virginia is on like what we talked about before the ley lines you know yeah um but the hot spots basically.
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Where like paranormal kind of stuff happens. The pyramids are built on a ley line and stuff. But they say a ley line goes to the Appalachian Mountains which is close to where this is. But I don't know.
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I don't know. We didn't. We didn't really dive into the ley line.
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I don't know.
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No, I think it might be a measurable thing, like a higher frequency, higher energy reading in these certain areas.
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I'm not sure. We should do an episode on ley lines.
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Lay it all down, baby. I know I didn't do a super job of the Mothman, but I'm telling you there's more people that have done a way better job. Haunted Cosmos, for sure.
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rabbit trail to go down because that's like that sounds like a crazy oh one of the stories this was on the y files this during the same it was the same night that the people were driving away from this mothman thing yeah um this lady she was at her brother's house with her child they she was walking to the car left the door walking to the car and then the brother yells from the house and
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Get back in the house. Get back in the house. And she's like, what? And she looks on her car is a seven foot, eight foot winged creature with red eyes. She trips running backwards. The brother runs out, grabs his sister and the child, pulls him back in. The thing jumps up, flies to the door and is trying to open the door.
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And that was like one of the encounters from that night of this Mothman thing. And they said it was like screeching. Dude, that's the most terrifying part, I think. Dude, that's so.
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What is her vibe?
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Yeah, she'd pretend like she doesn't hear you.
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I can't get in the house. My foot hurts.
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Listen to this. There's like all these cattle ranchers and stuff. There's this one guy, and I don't know where his video went, but he's like, I don't know what the heck is going on. And his gate and stuff for his cattle ranch, the whole fence and the gate is just doing like this. It's just vibrating like crazy.
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Yeah, but then this other dude, no relation at all, he's like, dude, I keep hearing things. And then he put his phone to the ground and listened to this thing, dude.
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All right, ready? Display it. Oh.
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That's a car. Hold on.
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Yeah, we noticed Will when he was on. He was like talking back here and it worked perfect.
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Sounds like a dinosaur, bro.
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New soundboard. New soundboard, baby! Hey, new soundboard, who dis?
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I mean, you have to think of how many animals probably existed back then that have been well extinct.
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I don't know. Why do all these sailors talk about these sea monsters in the ocean? Like the giant squid. People are like, oh, they're all just made up stories. And then they got one on film. This thing's like 100 feet long.
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Haunted Cosmos, they think, which I would probably align with, they don't think it has anything to do with our government. They think it's more of a paranormal kind of encounter. Or I think could it be like more of like a really deep state kind of thing? Like it's not necessarily our government of what we call it, but it's like... But they've got full control.
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They're in cahoots with something that is no bueno. It's kind of like the government probably like, just handle your business.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
Yeah, because the whole thing of Jimmy Carter and stuff, or no, it was Eisenhower, where it was like they made a deal, these aliens made a deal with Eisenhower to where they could abduct people and their payment would be that they would give them advanced technology of weaponry and stuff. And it's like, so have they been in cahoots with whatever this entity thing is? I don't know.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
diverticulitis i don't know anyways that's all i got that's all we got i have a video i want to show you guys on patreon and it's scary it really did like it would it would scare me so much okay yeah it's cool um next week we'll be filming in chattanooga tennessee baby on the road so everyone get it out of the way comment where's lily because i don't want to hear it next week dearest lily will not be a part of it she chose not to go
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
You have a debit card. Do it.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
That just seems like a lot.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
No, I'm afraid of planes, bro. Kels will go with you.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
Drive up with Kels. Anyways, patreon.com forward slash ninjas are butterflies where you get an extra episode weekly.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
Wrong. Oh. Early release episodes, behind the scenes stuff. We do live streams every now and then. Discount codes on our merch. Merch. And if you need merch for your own company. And access to our Discord account, which it's booming. There's a lot of conversations happening on there.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
It would have been fun, but it's not going to be fun now. What? Is the question. Lily.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
I know you're trying to change the conversation and we are truthfully, I'll change, I'll change, I'll go to a different question now because I feel like this is just an easy question because Lily apparently doesn't like this segment anymore. Yeah, and I don't know what that means. Even though the millions of people watching this, Andy, love this.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
We're going to ask it anyways, and we'll give you an easy one. Here. Here's a little softball. Knock it out of the park, Lil. Today's question sent in by a viewer. Really easy. Do you support families having closure in difficult times? Seems easy enough. Do you support families having closure in difficult times? What do you say?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
That was as big as a softball as I could have thrown.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
And somehow she did three strikes on one swing. Which is impossible. Of course, Lil, we're talking about families having foreclosure on their homes.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
Yes, I did. I said, do you support families having foreclosure in difficult times? What else could that possibly mean? What else could that possibly mean except them losing their homes? Makes me sick. These families that work so hard, Lil.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
And they work. And then some of them, at the end of the day, they're like, hey, we actually don't need you anymore. We're automating everything. AI's taking over. Goodbye.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
Look at me. That's what she said. And the kids are crying. They can't even play with their toys anymore. You have to sell their toys.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
It is really sad. Bummer. I know. Well... I guess you heard it here first, folks. Lily wants the middle class to dissipate in this nation. She wants all these families in the difficult times of this economy. She wants all their homes to be foreclosed on and for the children to go hungry, the wives and mothers to be sad all the time, and the men to just feel emasculated by not having a job.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
Why are you prepared now to say why you didn't want to do it?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
Yeah. Being very optimistic about it, too.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
127 - UFO Encounters, Mothman Conspiracies, & Giant Exploding Rockets
That's intense.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
Everybody has, you know, it was this pattern of, of a person I didn't recognize. I was disappointed in the immaturity and, you know, disappointed in, uh, just, you know, I mean, so can I, I, I did not do this, um, outright last time.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
So I don't want you to feel crazy. No, I believe it was a betrayal.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
I mean, I don't think it was these emotional affairs that people talk about. There's no one isolated person. There's been comments in the thread that this person, so-and-so.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
I mean, I don't know either. I've never been hurt like this before.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
And I guess that's frustrating for me because, and I hate, I don't mean anything as far as I want her to feel bad. But what I'm trying to say is like, you know, the crime, the punishment doesn't fit the crime type thing. Like, okay, I got a letter and I'm just supposed to move on.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
Yeah, so I thought you gave some relevant advice. I took it to heart as I do all advice, and then I make it my own. And I take it into my situation, my reality. And you had advised me to, you know, apologize to my wife for feeling that, you know, making her feel that part of her wasn't welcome in the home.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
And at the same time, you know, to let her know that the things that she had said about her college past 20 years ago had bothered me, had made me feel a certain way. So I did that in some regard. I did take that advice and, you know,
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
Spoke to her, you know, about about what I'd seen and let her know that there's I'm sure there's a reason she feels she can't talk to me about those things and then shared it with some other people. And I told her, I don't think that justifies you going and talking to other people. I don't I don't appreciate it. I don't appreciate the way it makes me feel.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
But I thought about a couple of things from our last conversation, Dr. John, about kind of had we had this conversation that she didn't speak that way. And I responded no. And then I got to thinking, yeah, we did.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
You know, when we were standing on the aisle on our wedding day and promising to forsake all others and promising to cherish the other person, I considered that to be the conversation that we wouldn't have inappropriate conversations about our pasts. especially with people that either of us spouses or partners knew that we were having.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
I told you in the last call, I knew she had a group of friends that were there during those days, and they'd talk about it, and it doesn't bother me a bit. But bringing it to these people that weren't there and are new people just felt totally inappropriate to me, and I still feel that way. I also got to thinking about
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
You know, me feeling like she was tainted, I felt that way during the phone call, a way that I'd never felt before. And I felt that way for several days after. And then I thought and thought, and I said, I don't feel that way. I don't feel like she's tainted at all. I love the day we got married. I love the beautiful, strong, sweet woman I got married to.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
She had a few partners in college, nothing. outlandish like some of these text threads are saying, which is hurtful to me to hear people speak like that about my beautiful wife, just because she did what 99% of other people did in college and have just a handful of partners that, yeah, I'm not happy about, but nobody is. You said that yourself, but she's not a tainted woman.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
I don't feel that way, but I do feel like her recent conversations with, have tainted our marriage. And not that it's irrevocable or irreversible, or maybe it is a little irreversible. Maybe it's always going to be a thorn in my foot that I'm going to have to walk with as I will be married to this woman for the rest of my life. I know that. And I know that she is not... not...
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
not cheating on me and not wishing that she had done other things. And we're inseparable. We had the greatest 20s and the greatest 30s. And as you said, we raised humans together and great communication. And, you know, people get into their 40s, they get into a lull. And I do think that she found a new group of friends and they had some work trips and
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
had a little too much to drink, and she likes to get a rise and a joke out of people, and I get that. At the same time, it hurt. It hurt like, and I know some people, you know, say, hey, get over it, man. You know, everybody does that, and I am over the past. I am over it. To say that it doesn't, you know, have a little bit of a,
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
irritating feel of the past would be a foolish thing for any human being to say. Everybody is going to, as you said, you know, not love that their, you know, life partner had some experiences before them. I think any decent person is going to not like that. There may be some body count 100 people out there that say get over it. They don't count. They're not in this conversation.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
The conversation I'm having is with my spouse who has been the love of my life. And I know that I've been the same to her. Our 20s were the greatest. They were adventurous. I mean, I'm close with her friends and they've just come to me with wows in the beginning and I'm still close to them to stay.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
But the fact of the matter is, and what I'm calling about is, is I found some conversations that were hurtful and made me take a step back and realize that marriage is very challenging. Even when you seem to do everything right and everything feels right and then you find out that... for a year or two, your, your spouse is making some inappropriate jokes, just a handful, you know, just a dozen.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
Um, but you know, it, it, I just can't, I, to me, it hurts if it doesn't bother other people, you know, they can go live their life. That's right.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
Well, I appreciate the apology. I also think, you know, in your defense, me and you may have been headed to the Rocky Mountains, and we got on the train in the Great Plains, and we got to the next station, and we're like, hey, there's no mountains. We're just not there yet. I think the conversation ended prematurely, and maybe we would have got there if there was more.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
It went well. My biggest complaint today, and I guess the reason I'm back on the show, is because she did break down and apologize, wrote me a letter, realized she took our marriage for granted and didn't, you know, said some inappropriate things, kind of, you know, blamed it on, you know, a little bit of alcohol, a little bit of wanting to get a rise out of some people.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
And we've had several conversations since. I mean, some of them have been productive, and some of them have been, you know, maybe after a little too much alcohol again, and we just run in circles. But I'm just not getting the closure that I want to get to move on. I continue to wake up at night, which is unusual for me.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
But for the last month or so, I mean, I just wake up every night, stare out the window, because I can't seem to get the closure. Because one thing that I've heard you say before is, you know, you have to come to these conversations willing to be vulnerable and willing to accept the fact that there's a chance that the other person will leave. I don't think we're in that conversation, but...
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
I don't feel like I'm getting the full vulnerability or the full admittance of guilt. Not that I want to shame her once again. I mean, I just have to say that again and again. But I need her to say, I've done this. This is why I did it. I don't know why she said those things other than a joke. And that doesn't seem like a justifiable thing.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
Does it seem like a justifiable, vulnerable comment that I can let it hurt me for just a moment and then know that we went there?
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
I mean, there's a little bit, yeah.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
And maybe you're not getting that. There's truth in every joke. I mean, even the worst of jokes.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
They tell more truth than anybody there is. That's right, that's right. And so I know that, yeah, you're right. That little bit of truth to it is what's bothered me so bad, and the fact that she won't come out and say that.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
That's what I want to do. I want to knock down the building, but I feel like she won't admit that there is that little bit of truth in there because she's terrified of hurting me. Gotcha. And I told her that I want her to hurt me. The only way that I can get through this is to get that vulnerable, rock... hard pain, uh, so that I can know why she said it, because you're right.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
There's a little bit of truth in there. I don't think there's been a distance here lately. I think there's been a lack of excitement possibly. Sure. Uh, that happens.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
But I can't get her to fully admit to, to it. I mean, she's, she wrote me a letter, um, a couple of times and now I've played my cards. Like I don't get to bring it up again.
The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
It's very possible I haven't been that clear, but I did bring vulnerability to the conversation. I'm proud of you for that. I have since changed my day-to-day conversations to be a little more open and a little less hiding. I'm no saint. I've made some mistakes in the last uh, five or seven years too, that were, you know, little one-off things you got to go ask forgiveness for. Sure.
The Glenn Beck Program
5 Theories to Explain the Epstein File Bindergate | Guest: Liz Wheeler | 2/28/25
You said last week that you have the Epstein files on your desk. When can we see them and what's taking so long to release them?
The Glenn Beck Program
5 Theories to Explain the Epstein File Bindergate | Guest: Liz Wheeler | 2/28/25
What kind? Are we going to see who was on the flights? Are we going to see any evidence from what he recorded? Because he had all of his homes wired with recording devices.
The Glenn Beck Program
5 Theories to Explain the Epstein File Bindergate | Guest: Liz Wheeler | 2/28/25
Oh, you're not asking me to read?
The Glenn Beck Program
5 Theories to Explain the Epstein File Bindergate | Guest: Liz Wheeler | 2/28/25
You're going to say I was involved in the list.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1545 - The 'Mass Graves' Hoax Is Officially Dead, And No One Will Be Held Accountable
She said last week that you have the Epstein files on your desk. When can we see them and what's taking so long to release them?
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1545 - The 'Mass Graves' Hoax Is Officially Dead, And No One Will Be Held Accountable
What kind? Are we going to see who was on the flights? Are we going to see any evidence from what he recorded? Because he had all of his homes wired with recording devices.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1545 - The 'Mass Graves' Hoax Is Officially Dead, And No One Will Be Held Accountable
Okay.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1545 - The 'Mass Graves' Hoax Is Officially Dead, And No One Will Be Held Accountable
Absolutely. And he had help. That's for sure. He sure did.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1546 - Yesterday’s Epstein Files Release Was A Total Disaster
And it's required that you grow a beard, hey
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1546 - Yesterday’s Epstein Files Release Was A Total Disaster
Said last week that you have the Epstein files on your desk. When can we see them and what's taking so long to release them?
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1546 - Yesterday’s Epstein Files Release Was A Total Disaster
What kind? Are we going to see who was on the flights? Are we going to see any evidence from what he recorded? Because he had all of his homes wired with recording devices.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1546 - Yesterday’s Epstein Files Release Was A Total Disaster
Absolutely. And he had help. That's for sure. He sure did.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Fox News in Total Panic as Trump Approval Falls
What never lies? besides George Washington. Math, math never lies. Math always tells the truth. Doge is math.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Speaker Johnson BOOED ON STAGE by GOP…He RUNS AWAY
Well, I don't think Johnson likes you now. Next time you guys see each other walking through the calls of Congress, he's going to probably kick you in the leg.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Speaker Johnson BOOED ON STAGE by GOP…He RUNS AWAY
He's a friend and you just threw him overboard. Man, politics is tough, Senator Lee.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Speaker Johnson BOOED ON STAGE by GOP…He RUNS AWAY
Yeah, no, I don't like it either. I think it's terrible, and we got to stop doing it, and it's got to stop now.
The Ramsey Show
If You're Intentional With Money, You Can Win With Money
Hey, Dave. How's it going? Great, man. What's up? Well, my question for you, I'm 19 years old. I own my own company. It's a contracting company here in the Seattle area, and I started about a year ago, and I just got my contractor's license here about two weeks ago. And my question for you, being wintertime right now, works kind of slow and very unpredictable.
The Ramsey Show
If You're Intentional With Money, You Can Win With Money
My question for you, should I go out and get another more steady job as well as working my company? Or since my expenses are pretty low right now and I can live on a pretty minimal amount, should I put my all into my company?
The Ramsey Show
If You're Intentional With Money, You Can Win With Money
Just a general contractor. I do just about everything, retaining walls, land clearing, concrete, just about anything.
The Ramsey Show
If You're Intentional With Money, You Can Win With Money
Okay. Okay, yeah, I understand that. So I do not do, like, inside work. Like, I don't build houses. I don't remodel anything. Everything I do is going to be outdoors.
The Ramsey Show
If You're Intentional With Money, You Can Win With Money
I could. It's not something I've gotten into yet. You don't know how. It's not something we have the know-how for. Yeah, you don't know how.
The Ramsey Show
If You're Intentional With Money, You Can Win With Money
Yeah, totally, 100%. So I do have another. It's kind of a, it's not very steady. It's down at the rail yard in Tacoma. I work down there when they have an excess of work. I'm maybe working there like once a week or so. I mean, it's, you know, it's 300 bucks a day. So just my work's really not very steady right now. And, you know, so that's kind of what I'm thinking here.
The Ramsey Show
If You're Intentional With Money, You Can Win With Money
Land clearing is kind of my specialty, gravel driveways, concrete, and retaining walls.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
No, he was very love-bomb-y at the beginning of our relationship. Came in very hot and strong. I think he said, I love you to me two weeks into seeing each other. Just very, from the get-go, just like... I'm going to like overload you with like affection and gifts and things like that. And that's something that I definitely needed at that point in my life.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
I was very insecure, just kind of like going through a lot mentally. So he was exactly what like I needed. And I feel like he knew exactly what to do to kind of like snatch me and get me in. So, yeah.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
I think it's definitely a super taboo subject, especially within our church. I feel like you're taught your whole entire life, do not have sex until you're married. And then magically when you're married, you're supposed to just enjoy it and know how to do it and everything like that. And I feel like that's not common.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
And it's hard to learn your body too when there's a lot of shame around it in the church or you're married that you can't have it. And I feel like just me personally, I was ashamed to kind of get to know myself and know what would help me have an orgasm. I just always felt like shameful around it and I didn't want to explore and figure out like what would get me there.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
And yeah, it took a lot to kind of get over that mental hump that finally like was able to like help me get there. It was just definitely more of like a mental game for me because I feel like I had like the tools to like get there. I felt like I knew what possibly could.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
But it was just kind of like every time I would do it to myself or like things like that always just felt like dirty after almost. And that's kind of just like the shame that like we have in our church kind of to begin with. So once I finally got past that mental hump, I feel like that's what kind of like helped me. She's never been more relaxed.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
I think personally for me, the behaviors that I saw were just so alarming that I couldn't just kind of turn a blind eye to it. And I try to give a lot of people grace. That's something that I'm very big on. I'm very big on forgiving and like giving people second chances.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
But for me personally, seeing what she did to Jesse and just kind of honestly how evil it was, I was like, what makes me think that she's not going to go and try to do this to me? And then she did things to Taylor as well. And I just felt like it was a pattern that was repeating itself. And I didn't want to be caught on the wrong end of it. So I was just like, I'm going to take a step back.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
I'm not going to surround myself with her anymore. And ultimately, if she wants to come back one day and kind of like share her side of the story and make amends with people, I feel like I'm open to that. But every conversation I have had with her, unfortunately, has ended negative on her end and it's name calling and it's just very...
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
mean and i feel like she kind of shows her true colors in those moments and just i don't need to surround myself with people like that that talk down to me and make me feel bad about myself so i think just ultimately i just don't really have a space for her when you say what she did with jesse are you referring to jay-z styles are you referring to the contract disputes are you referring to vanderpump villa or all of the above all of the above i feel like it was just kind of i feel like the first thing the contract thing i was like oh well
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
Jesse forgave her and I feel like that's kind of how like we all mutually felt that we were like okay like Jesse and them are good so like that's fine we'll let it pass and then the hair thing came up and I was like oh okay that's a little weird and then now the Vanderpump thing came and I was like it's just it's repeating itself and I feel like at this point if we were to just keep turning a blind eye I feel like that would be kind of dumb of us almost I feel like at some point you kind of need to wake up and see like
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
I think, yeah, ultimately when it comes down to it, I think the word to just describe it is confused. I think you should always believe a victim. If someone's coming forward and they're claiming that they were assaulted, you should always believe them. But I think for me, I'm a very logically driven human and I feel like I need factual based things to prove what's happening in the situation.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
And I feel like right now there's just a lot of he said, she said.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
um and yeah just like you said i was there in the villa and there definitely was some things that were happening that were interesting for a married woman to be participating in i think personally but ultimately when it comes down to it i didn't see what she's claiming and i didn't see those things happen so i can't speak on something that i didn't see what was y'all's reaction to her um quote unquote plan for the finale of season one wait which plan sorry um with dakota
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
Oh, very interesting. I think that was, we were all very confused on why that even went into her head as something that would be okay on Brett's end, on Dakota's end, on Taylor's end, on her end. It was just very interesting.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
Definitely surprised that conversation that Marciano and Demi had, especially that was like a two and a half hour long conversation that everyone in the castle that day was like, they're still talking like that's that's interesting. We would kind of like peek in and out and they're still talking. They're still talking. And that conversation got very, very, very dwindled down.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
And then there are side conversations that they would have as well, too, that were he would make little weird comments towards her and then like she wouldn't necessarily like shut them down. And like I was present for them. So like I can say that those were happening. And none of those were shown, too. So I just think there's definitely a lot of moments that were not shown.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
we can show him all these things and if he chooses to stay then that's up to him like it's his marriage that's his wife if he chooses to like ignore that behavior I would never personally if I was married and I've seen that behavior from my spouse but I mean like it's it's their own do you think she will return for season three
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
I think I'm shocked personally that she hasn't come back already. Yes. Like I thought her return. I think she will come back. Yes. And I thought her return honestly was going to happen sooner than this.
The Viall Files
E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
So I'm kind of shocked already that she hasn't come back yet. I just think personally for me, I don't think I could go on with the accusations that are being made without like clearing my name. So I think at this point, like she has to come back. I feel like.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
Very convenient. I think would be the great word to use. I think for the longest amount of time they were like enemies basically. Like to me the amount of shit she talked on Whitney was astronomical. I mean she does it to a lot of people but it was pretty heavy in the way that she treated her too. Like I think I would use the word like bullying.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
so to now have them very close and kind of like together I feel like it's because they kind of don't necessarily have anyone else in the group at the moment and again that's on their end if they want to come forward and kind of like take full accountability for like everything else aside on Demi's end if they want to take accountability for just like not being bestest of friends and like maybe they would have other people in the group that they could lean on and I feel like
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
It would be very telling if they started to like kind of like drift apart after that. But yeah, I just feel like it's very it's very convenient.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
New York press.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
Honestly, it was a very short relationship. We were together for maybe three months. And like I said, he came in very strong and hot from the beginning. And we talked about marriage and engagement in a very short amount of time frame, which was pretty crazy looking back. But again, I think He saw how vulnerable I was and he knew exactly what to say to me.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
And I feel like me too, being a single mom, that's something that like I long for is like to have a complete family and to like have a partner to come home to at night, especially in this environment when I see so many happy couples. I want that so badly for myself. And I think he knew exactly what to say to like snatch me in.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
And then we ended up not working out because he felt like morally we didn't align, which he's very contradictory in some ways that like he said that he wanted to be like a more active member of the church. And when we were together, he told that to me and I was like, okay, well, this is something that's really important to him. So I'm going to try to like be more active for him.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
So we would go to church together. And then five minutes into us being at home, he's trying to rip my clothes off and have sex with me. So it's just like, it's the double standard that like I hate and I do not appreciate. And then he also didn't like the show, which was interesting because he knew about the show on our first date.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
He didn't like me modeling, but I feel like that's kind of like an insecurity thing.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
Yeah. Yeah. He was on the show multiple times, as you guys saw. So it's just it's very interesting that like he said those things once we were breaking up. I personally I can't say completely because like I don't know what his intentions were like talking to me at all. But I honestly looking back, I feel pretty used. I feel like he kind of came in.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
He got his screen time and then he dipped when he felt like he got enough.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
do you feel like he kind of tried to make you feel like safe and comfortable by being like i don't like this show i don't like but then yeah would be on it and obviously like have set conversations on it exactly yeah exactly i feel like it was kind of maybe a way to make him not look like he used me and be like oh well i don't really i don't like the show like i don't know if i want this a part of my life for the rest of my life even though multiple times i've told him like
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
I don't know how long I want this in my life like I would voice that to him all the time like you know like we're on season three right now but like who knows like maybe like at season five like I feel like I'm I've reached my limit and I'm gonna walk away from the show like I just don't know what the future holds for me so I feel like him holding that kind of above me and being like I don't know if like I want this part of my life I'm like okay that's like interesting because again it wasn't a red flag when you showed up to filming all the time.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
as well but what what can you share about that moment that season two ended on and like I guess how shocked or not shocked were you yeah for the first question I think for me personally just this show has given me a lot of opportunities in my life that's kind of like changed my life like being able to be a single mom and provide my children with
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
a really good life is something that a lot of women stay in relationships for because they can't do that so it's something that I'm very grateful for and I think that's why I've become more confident because I'm like I'm doing the damn thing and I'm doing it on my own too which I'm just really proud of myself because truthfully that's something that for a long time is why I stayed in my marriage so long is because I didn't know if I could do it and then the show came into the picture and I was like wait like there's a chance that I could do this on my own and that's what kind of like gave me the confidence to leave and season one that's when I was in the process of my divorce and like still like
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
kind of in the depths of that. And that wasn't shown obviously in season one, but I was struggling a lot mentally season one for sure. And I just wasn't able to show up for myself mentally. So I wasn't really able to show up when we were doing this experience. But season two, I'm finally like in a good place. And I feel like I've just become just a happier person.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
I'm kind of getting back to like who Layla is. And then your second question, I was shocked. Very, very shocked. I think it was a really hard thing to hear because I just in that moment it was I didn't know what to believe. Like I'm hearing this man that I don't even know say something about one of my best friends that was hard to hear. And yeah, I just think shocked is the right word to use.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
It was definitely a hard day for me to hear that.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
I think he's a scummy person, personally. I think he's trying to do the right thing now, which is good. But I think his intentions of what he was doing behind the scenes is very icky. And just messing with married women, too, in general. Yeah, going for married women in general. If a woman is married, leave her the hell alone. I just think it's so gross to even kind of, like, venture into that.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
But... Yeah, I think it comes from a place of insecurity.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
At that point, when I did meet with him that day, he swept everything under the rug with Demi. So it was, I didn't find anything out at that day meeting him. He was just kind of like, nothing happened, nothing happened. And then kind of reverted the whole entire conversation to Jesse. So yeah, I did go there that day with intentions to kind of figure out what actually happened in Italy.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
And he didn't give me that.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
I do. Yeah, I do.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
I think that this is a very hard situation for sure. This world's just really hard to navigate. And I think we're all human. And at the end of the day, we fuck up and we make mistakes. But I think right now what's hard for me is that she's seeing how it's affecting people and affecting people that she loved. It doesn't matter how she feels about Jesse now.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
At one point in your life, you really love Jesse and she was one of your really good friends. And I think for me, it's hard to like
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
kind of feel sympathy when like she's seeing how badly it's hurting jesse and like there hasn't been like an attempt to like reach out or like try to like just see if she's doing okay but i do feel bad i just feel like this is hard for sure to have this all broadcasted to the world too because like normally when people make mistakes in life it's not being shown to millions of people all over the world and it's definitely an isolating experience that like when you fuck up it's
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
I think I'm willing to hear her out for sure. I'm never going to just be like, if you don't talk to me, but I definitely would see how she handles that conversation and kind of.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
takes accountability and doesn't deflect I feel like that's something that this group kind of does a lot is when we're in the hot seat we kind of start like pointing fingers towards everyone else and they're like well you did this and you did this and I'm like okay like stop take accountability for what I'm coming to you for right now don't come at me and like try to say things about me right now this isn't about me so I think if she's able to like take accountability and kind of like be like yeah I fucked up then like I'd be willing to hear her out I'd love to have you both answer do each of you think that Demi and Brett's relationship will last
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
I'll say yes for now. What do you think, Layla? What do you think? Hot take, no. Okay. I think this world, unfortunately, the way that she's operating with the things, I think this world might break them.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
No, Taylor's just comfy. She's a comfy girl. But I think sometimes we'll show up to things and she comes in sweats and everyone else is in jeans.
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E938 - Mayci And Layla, Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives And The Valley Deep Dive
She's farty.
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