The Dr. John Delony Show
Follow-Up Call: My Wife Brags to Friends About Her Past Sex Life
Mon, 05 May 2025
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Chapter 1: What did Jesse learn from his previous call?
Never before in what, 700 plus episodes of this show have I been so incredibly lit up like a Christmas tree on the internets for how badly I just totally screwed up. Jesse was on the show. Kelly and I talked and I was like, dude, let's get Jesse back on the line. Jesse, you there? What's going on? What is going on? This is John with the Dr. John Deloney Show.
Hope you are doing well and wherever you happen to find yourself. Hope there's a path for peace in all of the madness. And if there's not and you feel stuck, I'm glad you're here. On this show, we sit with hurting people trying to figure out what's the next right move. I'd love to have you on the show.
If you want to be on, give me a buzz at 1-844-693-3291 or go to johndeloney.com slash ask, A-S-K. Love to have you on and figure out what's going to happen next in your life. And hey, all right, so we have this first caller that's up. He is, I'm going to go ahead and invite him on. Auburn, Alabama. Jesse, you there? I'm here, Dr. John. What's up, my brother? How we doing? I'm doing okay.
All right. So I'm going to give everybody the backstory here. So Jesse was on the show probably a month ago, three weeks ago, two weeks ago. Okay. That's right. So Jesse was on the show talking about a complicated issue. And...
Never before in, what, 700-plus episodes of this show have I been so incredibly lit up like a Christmas tree on the internets for how badly the internet people said I blew the call. I just totally screwed up. And so... Kelly and I talked and I was like, dude, let's get Jesse back on the line. Cause here's the deal. I get to hang up the phone, right? I hang up the phone. I finished the call.
Then I go into the next and people who are on the show, they're just kind of there, right? Jesse, you're just like on the other end of the line when I hang up. Right. Right. Yeah. So I wanted to give you an opportunity to, Hey, just let me have it. If I need to, if you just need to let me have it. Um, I would love to know after the, after the call you hung up, um,
what you felt, if you felt heard, if you felt seen, if you felt like I attacked you, and most importantly, how have the days been since? Are you still haunted by what you called me about?
Yeah, so I thought you gave some relevant advice. I took it to heart as I do all advice, and then I make it my own. And I take it into my situation, my reality. And you had advised me to, you know, apologize to my wife for feeling that, you know, making her feel that part of her wasn't welcome in the home.
And at the same time, you know, to let her know that the things that she had said about her college past 20 years ago had bothered me, had made me feel a certain way. So I did that in some regard. I did take that advice and, you know,
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Chapter 2: How can communication improve in a marriage?
Well, and I guess what I wanna challenge you, not challenge you, but just speak out into existence is, most of the time people still hurt after the apology. Oh, yeah. It doesn't make what happened go away.
And I guess that's frustrating for me because, and I hate, I don't mean anything as far as I want her to feel bad. But what I'm trying to say is like, you know, the crime, the punishment doesn't fit the crime type thing. Like, okay, I got a letter and I'm just supposed to move on.
No, I think we circle back. So I want you to stop thinking in terms of like you said, like we're keeping score. Like my pain's gotta be the same as your pain. And if I hurt this bad, you have to hurt that bad. That kind of score keeping, man, is always gonna end in contempt. And that's one of the Gottman's four horsemen of the end of a relationship. Because it gets to be this hierarchy.
You did this, so I get to do this. Forgiveness is, I'm not carrying that anymore. Still hurts. Still hurts. I lost a little bit of trust in you. If that's the case, I'm gonna ask you to not drink on these trips because that was a betrayal for me. It hurt real bad.
And I guess I also want you to be careful of putting yourself in her head and assuming you know how bad she's hurting or not hurting just by how she's responding. But also, dude, it is super okay to say, okay, it's been two weeks, it's been three weeks. You wrote me this amazing letter. I wanna read it out loud to you And I want to let you know how I feel when I read it.
Like I want to read it out loud to you. I don't want to do that. It would really mean the world to me if I could read this out loud to you. But also, yeah, be careful of wanting to hurt her back or wanting her to hurt back. And I guess be weary of your own expectation of what you think it's supposed to feel like on the other end of an apology. Sometimes it just still stings.
And you forgive her and you say, okay, I get it. And it still stings. And the next time she's going to a trip out of town, your heart rate's gonna go up and you're gonna text a little bit more and she's gonna commit, hey, I'm not gonna drink on this trip. Not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that because I know I hurt you last time.
And I guess part of that is just trusting in if you keep showing up and saying, how can I love you today? And she keeps showing up and saying, hey, Jesse, how can I love you today? That over time, that pain stings a lot less and your default setting slowly resets itself. but you're not crazy for being hurt. I don't think you're crazy at all.
I just want you to be careful about pushing and pushing and pushing to make sure she feels in some way as bad as you do. Or like you said, she can't just get off scot-free with an apology. I want you to think that all the way through because that makes you the judge, the jury, and the executioner. And be real clear about what you want her to experience on the other end. And you may never get that.
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Chapter 3: When is it appropriate to discuss past relationships?
I was pretty quiet and shy. Um, but, And I just feel like I have so many people telling me, like, I guess I wasn't good enough. And then I didn't feel good enough. And it's funny because even his mom has told me, like, I'm a very strong person, but it's taken years to get to this point. And now I feel like since we have kids, I feel like I often have to be their voice.
And be that strength that I know they're going to need someday.
And can I tell you something crazy? I'm telling you this because I love you. Okay? Yeah. I'm so grateful for you.
Thank you.
How old are your kids?
Two and four.
Okay. When we over voice for our kids. Now, our kids need us. They need us to be sturdy. As Dr. Kennedy says, we need to be plugged in, anchored in.
Yeah.
And I will burn your village to the ground if you hurt my daughter.
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Chapter 4: What are the effects of parental involvement in adult relationships?
And what I often see happen is mother-in-laws become... Yes, they can be intrusive and yes, they can become overly whatever. Our father-in-law is like, I'm going to pay for everything. They can do this at our house. We need to struggle through some things so that stop coming into the weight room and taking the weight off the bar.
Our marriage has to go through some hard times so that it can have the strength down the road. But often they become like an easy thing to point fingers at when actually I lose respect for you because of the way you treat the waitress. I'll lose respect for you because you don't open the door for me.
I lose respect for you because you sit on the couch and play video games and have four beers every night while I'm trying to bathe the kids and get them to bed. And this general loss of respect is a much bigger cloud hanging over our home than just, hey, you keep letting your mom pay your cell phone bill and you keep letting your mom pay for our vacations.
I want us to save up and struggle and pay for stuff ourselves. And so I think the pictures and words is a bigger conversation about, hey, I'm losing respect with you as a man, as my husband. Here's my picture of what a husband is inside and outside of the financial transaction stuff. And I think that's the place to have the conversation.
And that's a scarier conversation to have because it peels back a ton more layers. But here's my promise. If you keep just pecking and pecking and pecking and pecking at him, mom and dad will back all the way off. And you're still going to have that respect issue with your husband that you got to deal with. So let's just go straight there and deal with that.
Let's just lay that one bare on the table. And if you need a professional to walk with you, do that. But let's start there with that conversation. And then some of this might be humbling for you. Some of it might be, dude, I gotta learn to just smile and say thank you for the gift.
If it's something that completely violates your values, like food or safety for your kids, whatever, absolutely, I'm not just gonna cave on that. But sometimes it's, you sent another set of clothes, great. You sent another whatever, great. You bought us a car, okay. And sometimes you just say, okay, I wouldn't have done it that way, but I'm just going to be grateful.
And other times you exhale and have the bigger, harder conversation, which is, husband, I'm struggling with my respect for you on all these different fronts. It's a scarier, bigger conversation, but I think it's well worth having. And like I said at the beginning of the call, y'all been through a lot. My guess is if y'all both choose to, y'all can get through anything. Y'all are very, very strong.
All right, coming up next, we talk to a 24-year-old young woman who wants to know how soon is too soon to talk about your past with new people you're dating. Stay tuned. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. More and more people are becoming aware of the need for mental and emotional health resources.
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Chapter 5: How can couples navigate financial dependence on in-laws?
Yeah, I think there's days where, especially I've listened to your show a lot since all that happened and talking about rebuilding and things. And it just makes me think like, what if I had given a chance of saying like, okay, but this is very clear what I want. And if you like giving him the option to opt in or out, I didn't do that. I just, he did.
You did. He opted out. You're very clear. If you drink again, you're smashing things and it's not safe here in this house. And when you said, I don't feel safe in this house, he went out and got wasted. He gave you, he gave you his answer, right?
Yeah.
But what I'm hearing is the person you're not okay with is you. And here's where I'm coming from with that question is a person you meet on a first date or a second date or even a third date, they don't get a vote into your life. They weren't in that room when that trained veteran was smashing things. They weren't up all night wondering if your ride or die was dead. Night after night after night.
They weren't in that house when a drunk intoxicated person says, we're doing this actually tonight, no matter what you say. They don't get a vote. And so I guess my answer for you is, I don't think you're being deceptive by saying, hi, my name's Marie. How are you? And I don't think you have anything to hide to say, I got married when I was 19, 20 years old.
And it ended up being a pretty unsafe situation. And so I'm a 24-year-old who's already been through a divorce. How about you? And if that scares somebody away, then that's a better sorting mechanism than any swipe right could ever be.
Yeah, you're right about that. And to be fair, the people I have gone on dates with and told, I mean, their reaction is obviously a little shocked, but there's not really any judgment. If anything, they're like, okay, that's cool. I mean, when I tell them, like, you know, it's giving me a different perspective on things I want and, you know, they, they're accepting of it.
I think it really is a, an inside battle.
Yeah. I mean, it feels like an inside battle and, and, If I can just, I've heard this over and over and over again for forever. I mean, for as long as I've been having these conversations, it doesn't matter if somebody's been separated for five years. The day that divorce is finalized starts a new grieving process. Now, I've seen it on Instagram, like the hooray or the divorce party.
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