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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And I'm like, yes, good job, Amy.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Apparently not. No, no. You're like, keep on reading. I'm like, there's more. Go to that next paragraph. I know. You're probably like, you left out a few lines there, Jennifer. Why? I've got a few more. Who do you want to hear?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Go into it. Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I know.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Now they're going to hire someone else, someone brand new.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Yeah.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Yeah.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Right.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yep.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Like what?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Mm-hmm.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
How do you do it?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
For sure.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Exactly.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Yeah.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
You're healthy.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Mm hmm.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Yeah. Yeah.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Right.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Crush it.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Hi, guys. It's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it. All right, you guys. We have the one and only Ben Greenfeld on.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Actually, this is one of these companies that I drink at least one a day, and I like it. So you tell me what you think.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Right. So that GPT thing that you, well, not the, what did you say that thing was that people can use to, because I've been using or people I know, the best one I've heard of is Fitness Pal to do all that stuff. Is this one better in terms of like, like it's, is it easier?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Oh, okay.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And go into the things like I had three ounces, I had six ounces. It's just like to do all the little nuance things. Those are annoying. So you're saying going to GPT now, you can actually scan your food in the chat GPT?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Feld. Feld.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Wow.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
That's amazing. You fascinate me, I tell you this. I keep on repeating myself. I know I sound like a broken record, but you do. You meet a lot of people in this world, in this business, but you always have fascinated me from the minute I even knew who you were. Because you're not a doctor.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
You're just some guy who has an insane amount of memory and the ability to take information and retain literally everything that you've ever seen, saw, heard. read, like your brain is like, it's like, it's like a computer.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
But, and you've been like, but it kind of, I feel like it's evolved. Like, what did you start when you first started 20 years ago? What were you doing? Were you a trainer, like a, like a personal trainer? Were you like a physical trainer? Is that what you did? What was the first thing you did?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Did you write it down in your Google notebook or?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I have a few other things.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Wow.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Which college, by the way?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Oh, so you have a master's in it. So you have an education backing. It wasn't just like a human- Oh, yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
But wait, what did he say? He said he was good with it.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah, but it's in an aluminum can.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So you didn't get into the school that you wanted. So you went, that's why. Which school did you want? Duke?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Could you actually prove that they do that, though?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
You did? Who even did that?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So how did they even know? How did they even know you existed?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Right, but you never did that.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So basically 2008 when things started to really take off for you. When did Instagram start? When did social media become something? What year?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I thought it was.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
That's crazy. And then now, okay, are you shocked? Like in the area of biohacking, I feel like you're most known for the biohacking stuff, right? Like, are you shocked at like how popular you became in that world or you're not really shocked?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
If actually someone did it.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Like endurance and like hiking.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Right. So basically how it was, now I understand more. So you kind of were really into the high performance fitness world. And then as you kind of got older and as your career kind of evolved, you kind of then got into more of the longevity stuff or like from No, because actually went from high performance, how to train really hard, how to train really, how to perfect the training.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Then you got into like a lot of the crazy stuff. Like that's when I kind of recognized who you were. You were like trying out all sorts of wackadoo things.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And it's funny, but then I feel like you kind of like hit, like you were doing a lot of that for a while. And then like, you kind of like leveled out. And now talking to you, even recently, you see much more, and don't be offended by this. I mean, it's in a nice way, but more normal. Like you're more of a normal guy who does normal, like you are really fit, but you're not like as,
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
intensely crazy about all the extreme extreme as you were maybe three or four years ago. Is that accurate?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Totally. And you do all that. But what I mean is like there was not a time there was a big chunk of time where like I would scroll and see like you would never be just like I don't it would always be something like unusual. And then I think I think I met you really at the biohacking conference in London. Do you remember when that was?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And I remember like when you weren't talking to people, I was like, oh, where's Ben? I wanted to ask you a question. You were like behind the stage. You had your legs up. You had this thing on your head. Do you remember? You were like getting into like everything. Like I felt like every second of your day was accounted for doing something that would be beneficial to your.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I don't like to waste time.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Right. Like you're not interested in like small talk. You're like, well, not like it's everything with you is like every moment is accounted for. Like, like,
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
No, but I actually don't think it's... I think people would be curious how you became so intensely just knowledgeable to such a crazy level. I know if I ask you, there's nothing really under the sun of health or fitness. You may not... You always give an answer that is... way more detailed than anybody I've ever talked to in my life ever.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
It's, I, that's why I, and you may be, it may be your opinion, but people don't agree with you, but at least like, there's like, I know that it was, there's something that you either read about it, thought about it, tried, like you have an experience with it. And by the way, you've given everybody, I'm still taking my notes. Okay, so now I understand how the evolution is.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
No, this should be interesting.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
That'll be really uncomfortable.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah, let's try. I mean, this is because of you, by the way. We're going to be getting the, I think we're getting the NR Niagen IV, which is like for Niagen. Have you had it before? Yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And next thing you know, well, I've actually, I think I, well, I got this IV one time before. It's like the NAD IV, but it's like NAD, but easier.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Wow, you should be a spokesperson. I am now. How long does it actually last in your body, though, to get an NR?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Do you believe in, like, do you get a lot of IVs? Are you like an IV person? Are they coming in or? Okay, cool.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yesterday? Yeah. Where, at here?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Really? Are you able to get this many IVs and be okay? Yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So isn't also, aren't these IVs really good for brain, like cognition and focus and brain fog?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah, but you're not even Jewish.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And also for the mitochondrial health.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
That's actually a good clip.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay, so say that one more time because I want to make sure people get that. So if you are sleep deprived, here is a cocktail that you should do that's very effective. Go ahead. Say it again.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay. This is my question. Can you take NAD, if I just took like a truniogen supplement and a creatine scoop, that would work?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Can't that bloat you to take that much creatine?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Are you not wearing any trackers anymore because of all the EMFs?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Oh, so you do wear the blood.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Why?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I love that line, by the way.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
This one made me hate it. Slate's going to hate me.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Why?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Oh my God, I'm going to get fired.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
That could be your alter ego.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay, wait, hold on. Again, this happened last time. We haven't even started.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
But isn't that better than having, so by the way, Slate, Ben said eight out of 10. So that's still very good.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And for the average Joe, who's not Ben, who is a fitness fanatic, not health, you know, health phenom, it's a really good thing to have because you, at least it's getting 20 grams of protein into somebody who otherwise would not be having that.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And it's better than having, you know, a milkshake at McDonald's.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
It's crazy. Okay, so you're saying, let's get with, say with the egg. So then people, if they just eat the egg whites, they can have a bigger allergic reaction or an intolerance than if they have the egg whites and the yolk together because you need that extra fat and whatever, all the other minerals and nutrients to counterbalance that. the egg white?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
From a camel?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
How much is a liter of camel milk?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Because goat milk I see all the time. So are you suggesting to people that they should maybe switch from maybe even their almond milk or their oat milk to a goat milk? Would that be healthier?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
But how about the carrageens in them and all that stuff like that?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay, that, okay.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Thank you. They're going to, they're going to hate me now for even bringing you on this podcast. That I don't care about, but here.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
That's not from my fridge. I don't know.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay. This is the next one. This is Magic Mind. I love.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
That's good. I got that for you. Okay. And then these Magic Minds. I'm blind, so I can't even read the ingredients. I do know there's amazing stuff in here.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Let me see it.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Do you believe that though?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Because I was going to say that I feel like I've gathered my body, I've been eating eggs every single day for 25 years, that I now feel like I become allergic or I have an intolerance, but I do eat the yolk.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Right. I mean, this is the whole conversation, but people are like, fruit does not get you fat, please. I mean, this nonsense.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Fruit's not going to get you fat. Yeah, if you eat like... everything else, plus you eat nine pounds of grapes, like maybe I do sometimes, that can be not the greatest thing.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
How long did the stem cell one take yesterday?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And what kind of stem cells were they?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay, so how is that different than our friend Dr. Khan's stem cells back in... Well, if you get stem cells in the U.S., they're usually not expanded.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I would love that. Well, he's not.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
How much is it?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Of course not.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
But it gets these IVs though, right? You get the IVs with that.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So basically you can't drink, but you said also like easy exercise. You don't want to stress your body is basically your point, right?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So do you, have you seen any kind of benefit by you doing this? How often are you doing these types of, this is not stem cells. This is not, it's an NR niagen IV.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Just to be cool. Yeah. How often have you done the stem cells and do you see any benefit? Have you seen any benefit?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
You know what's funny? I'm going to say that you look younger now than you did when I first met you, even.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
But I don't know why that is. I think it's everything. Or maybe it's just genetics.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Well, you look really good.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So what other things would you say is good for your overall youthfulness, skin?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
How about this? Do you mean brothers and sisters?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Do they have your skin?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Well, maybe you should.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Has that worked?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Well, you can't look any younger now. Your name could actually be Benjamin Button because you literally look like you're like 22.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So wait, hold on. You're going too fast. God, I gotta get my bat. Okay. So you're telling me you do a clay mask. How often?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay, which brand are you using that?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And then does that mean that you shouldn't be eating the same thing over and over and over again just because it can act as an intolerance or an allergic reaction for you?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay, so wait, you put the clay mask on and then you put the red light on top for how long?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And that's once, okay.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay. Give me some other stuff you do for your skin.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Three times.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I was going to ask you about him though.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Finish what you're going to say and then I'm going to ask you about him. So did you do with Dr. Khan the stem cells on your face?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I remember you were talking to that Dr. Adelson at the biohacking conference in London about this whole stem cell. That was like in 2020 or something you did, right?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And you did that again?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah. Why? Why do you need to do it twice?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And how much is that? Like if you're getting full head to toe?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And how long does it last? I know you did it twice, but how long does it, do you have?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So how long apart did you do both treatments? About five years. Five years.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Does Dr. Kahn do that one too?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
What is gene therapy really?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
What does that do though? What you just said.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
The one where you like the vagus nerve.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Is it dangerous?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Just a couple of weeks? Yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
It does. But eventually it comes back, though, unless it's managed.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah. It sounds like all of these things are just short-lived. They're short-term. Yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
No, it makes perfect sense. That's actually a really true point. I know a lot of people, a lot of people, my friends who swear by that in terms of for couples therapy, because it gives you an opportunity to like open up or it loses your inhibitions that you would otherwise have after so many years of doing the same thing over and over again.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
When did you guys do that? Like how long ago?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Really? Yeah. And it made a big difference.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Did you date a lot? Because you said you were very much like you're homeschooled until all these years. Did you, did you have a big chunk of time that you dated people before you got married or did you, your wife, one of your.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
You didn't?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Oh my God, I can't believe that.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Wait, so you dated for... Payoff was great.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I was going to ask you, did it turn out okay? Yeah. So for a year and a half, you guys dated then? Did you guys do anything? Like, how does it work when you have no sex? Are you doing nothing else? Are you kissing even? Like, what are you doing? Everything but? Like, what do you do?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
By the way, that's become a big thing now. Have you heard about this whole celibacy trend that's become hot right now? Have you heard about this?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I don't know. My friend Emily told me about it. I don't know what it is.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I'm going to ask her again. It was something that became trendy for a hot minute. I don't know if it's still happening, to be honest. But
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I don't know if it was waiting until you got married or if it was a trend where people weren't having sex.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
You know, it's funny that that is if you I'm sure you've noticed that we're living in a society now where people are not getting married anymore. There's no real people aren't even dating properly. People, men are just like watching porn. Women are like there's no men to even be date for women to even date because apps and everything else has now ruined how people even socialize.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
They don't even know how to socialize. They don't know how to date and they're not interested in relationships because everything is just about like a swipe to the next person. Right. Like it's actually really sad how like we've evolved into this strange place where people aren't even having, they're not getting married. They're not having children.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Absolutely. Of course. And if you've seen the decline of what's happened since people were born after 1995, actually, what was happening is 83% of the things that we used to do, we don't do anymore. Like go out and date, like get in trouble, like jump off cliffs, bike ride, just basics, right? Because people are now stuck on their screens.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So you basically said to them, you're leaving the house, come back around Thanksgiving and go fend for yourself.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And do you give them money or no money?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
That's so true. So basically, in the fitness world, it's all about if you stay eating the same things, that will optimize your chance of staying within a certain weight, certain body composition, all the things. But it can actually work very much in reverse for your actual health and microbiome.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Who put this whole thing together?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
This is amazing.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
What was the top three pieces of advice that really stuck with you that would help build mentally strong children?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
That's such an interesting one that you just said. So who would tell you to do a hybrid model? So you're not homeschooling the child and you're not putting the kid in the regular school system. So you would kind of modify what's out there already and make it work to your advantage.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
That book sounds, I didn't know you wrote that book.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Even though you've sold so many books, it wouldn't give you a shot?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah. No, I mean, that's, but that's actually, and is it as big as this book?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Who did you, who did you go to for your, like for your experts or for your,
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
That's amazing.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And how did you get, are you and your wife just naturally on board with the same stuff?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I love that. Unschooling is what you call it.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I'm getting more and more interested in this. I just did a TED Talk, actually, why I'm asking you this. I did a TED Talk last week in Miami about how to raise mentally strong kids in a coddling world. Oh, okay. Yeah, and I did a ton of research on it. I also, like, I tend to try to speak to the best of the best in the world, experts, whatever, like, of how to do this.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Because what I've found is what's happening is we really are raising very soft kids. Kids, which is not good for our future generation, right? Like, I'm sure you saw the studies and how like 20% of kids now kids are now taking their parents to job interviews. Did you see this whole thing?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
They're taking their parents to job interviews because they don't feel mentally strong enough to go on their own.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So the coping mechanisms and coping skills have been very diminished since, you know, over the last, over many, many years of the helicoptering parents and everyone's getting a trophy.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Interesting phenomenon. But this is where we're living now. Isn't that just crazy? So that's why when I'm asking you, I would have loved to have read the book. Interesting. What happened is it was in Miami. It was basically hurricane season and all the power went off on the entire block. And so I had to sit there in the dark for two hours. And so when I went up to finally do my talk,
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
the sound was off. So I have to now rerecord it. So I may want to read that book and see if there's anything in there that I can maybe include.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yes. By the way, I can't believe you still haven't done it.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
It's really funny you should say that.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Well, take the shot and then I'm going to tell you why. All right. Tell me if you like it. And I want to see if you're more energized and focused.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Well, I'm going to send you some. All right. It's called Magic Wine, and they're delicious. And I like the taste of them because most of these other things taste like crap.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
But these are good. But I wanted to say something that you just said. What were you just saying?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I was going to say, I had this guy—I had Gary Brekka on this podcast a while ago, and he said that— The ultimate human. The ultimate human. Yeah. And he did this thing and we talked about how he said that when you blend, when people have these smoothies and you're blending all the fruit and in the blender, blah, blah, blah, it skyrockets your glycemic.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
first of all that clip was shared I don't know how many times it was insane because people were like just railing on him that it was wrong like all those people that normally do it like all the regular suspects who like you know look at these things and like and like
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And like, who's that other guy? He's like from South Africa or South America.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah. Well, no, no, no reaction. He's a guy who's like a doctor and he like goes and like finds.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Anyway.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Well, what do you think of all these people? Do you watch and follow these people that are other biohackers or other people who are really very popular in the wellness and health space who have a really big audience?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
He's on podcasts. He's more of a, like he's hacking his whole, biohacking his entire, what do you think of all the stuff that he's done?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
It's pretty early. What has he done that you have not done?
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Yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay, why haven't you done it?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Is it really a month?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah.
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Really?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay. I'm going to look. I think my friend.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And that sounds scary though, too.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
How much is it?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Apparently, yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Did your wife spend that or did she get a discount at least?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Could I get one done? Is it worth it?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Can you show me a picture before and after?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay. What's his last name?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay. Name me something else.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Name me something else that you haven't done that you're interested in doing. And I want you to tell me the one thing that you have done that yielded the most amazing results that you were shocked about.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
It is. And I think, but I do think self-control is the most difficult thing in the world, right? We can all know, I think most of us at this point in life, especially with all the information overload, we know what to do. We've heard it all. We just don't have the self-control and the discipline to actually execute on it. That's where we get stuck.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Well, first of all, that's actually, I don't know where you got that one from.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay, but wait, but people have to buy one of these machines though.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah, that's a lot for the average person. It's a lot of money. Okay, so let's go back to people who are like... It's less than a car. Okay, less than a car. But for the person who's listening to this and now they're familiar with... The cheap travel hack version?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
But what does the vibration do on its own?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Is it similar to what we did at the Founderland when we, you're like, oh, go to this thing.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah. What if you just have, like, did you go to the Therasage one when they had the pod and it was like a vibrational sound and then they had the red light around it?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Okay. What's the other thing that you were going to tell me?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
That was the thing that you've been using that you think have been, oh yeah, but wait, if you had to say what that thing has done for you, what has it done for you in like two sentences or less?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And we'll see, okay, now what's the other thing that you said that it was the two questions I asked you was the thing that you've done.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Are you going to do that next?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Are you? See, you know, it's probably super cool.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
See, you get to try everything.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
See, I think it's super cool because you get to try all these things. How do you spend your time though now? Do you do mostly podcasting? Do you do a lot of speaking gigs? What do you do with your day besides exercise and all that?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So you do that. So wait, so you have coach.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So you do like, you take, you have, you said a few times on the podcast, clients, clients.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
So you do have clients.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And so how do you do, how much do they pay you for this?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And then you basically are like giving them a program of some kind of protocol.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
And then they just have to do it.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Alone ever or just guests or both? You do some alone?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Oh, okay. I don't know what that is. We usually start this podcast with these magic mind shots, and I'm sure you've had a million of them before, have you not?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
You seem so much more like, again, take this the right way. You seem so much more calm and like chill than like when I first met you.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I know, but you seem much sweeter now. You seem so kind and nice. Like, you look like you're 18. Yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
You were really nice then, too. But I'm saying, like, you seem like you're at a different place in life, and I don't know what it is.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
That's a big one though. So you pray. What other modality has helped you with your spiritual or spirituality to be more grounded and be more happy?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Wow. How long is it?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah. And each prayer, like every, how long is the prayer practice? Is it a few minutes? Is it 10 minutes, 15 minutes?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Absolutely. And then the other, the last question is social media and all that doesn't strike. You don't strike me as somebody, even though you are a social media person that you would spend a lot of time on social media. Do you?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Really?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
and that's why you're so i think this is part of why you're a you're so productive like you're the kind of person where you're not saying is that you said like if i'm not saying something that's meaningful or i'm not spending every minute kind of accounted for you feel like you're wasting your time and that's probably why because social media is a huge time suck yeah you know and you've like by the way i know we have to wrap this up because what time is this it's been like forever
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
in oh yeah it's been like two and a half hours again i do have to wrap pretty soon um okay so do you wear shoes did you come here without shoes by the way they're outside oh okay so you do wear shoes yeah okay one more question and then i'm gonna i'll fly and wrap this up what's the one thing that people ask you about the most what supplement should i take and what would you say
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Which one?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Someone in their 40s, what's the best exercise to do? Depends.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
The reason why I'm asking is because I think a lot of times, as you get older, anyway, for me especially, you get injured much more easily. Your body's very wear and tear. Of course, it's about building strength training and doing cardio and all those things. However, if you had to pick one exercise, if someone's not an exercise person, what would you suggest?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Totally agree. And by the way, I know we're only two ingredients in and we're not eating.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
You'd be a great trainer. You should be a trainer again. You should do that. I know, you should do it again.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I'm telling you, I would hire you. Okay, Ben, when can we do part three?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
When are you back? I don't know. You don't come out often.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I hope so.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Because every time I'm like, listen, I have like a whole other, I didn't even ask you any of the questions from your other book, if you can believe it. Oh, geez.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Hilarious. Okay, Ben, I love having you on, as you know. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for spending two hours with me or however long it's been. God knows.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Thank you for inviting me along on your IV experience. By the way, I will say again, those NRV IVs are really good for me and great for everybody. And so I'm actually very fortunate that we got one. So thank you for making that happen.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
All right. So if anyone wants to know more about Ben, check him out. He also does coaching. He has Keyon, his supplement company, and just check him out on Instagram because even just looking at his clips and you learn so much. What else can I say about you?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I know you won't. So what do you think about the fact of when you do high intensity workouts and exercise, when I do it anyway, my appetite goes through the roof. I eat five times the amount of calories because I'm ravenous and hungry. So isn't it a better strategy than to do like the 12-3-3 that we just said or any kind of lower impact or lower intensity exercise?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah, he probably won't see it, but you can still comment and there you go. Thank you, Ben.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Because then you're able to control your appetite just on a weight loss, fat loss level. Let's not talk about all the other things, but just on that, because that's what I find. I find cardio at a high intensity, you end up gaining weight because you're starving.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
This is a protein drink. This is Slate protein drinks. Have you not... You don't know about this?
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
I thought you know about everything, Ben.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Right. But let's say running versus walking, running versus incline walking. Would you say that it's good to do a combination of both or that doing the incline walk is better? Because you're maintaining muscle mass, you're not breaking it down and all those things.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
A thousand percent.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Yeah, I think it's true.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
100%.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Oh, fuck.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah. That's right.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah. Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I think you're onto something there.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Mm-hmm.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
100%.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
We have a lot, yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
100%.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah.
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100%.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, wow.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Wow.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Where we landed, yeah.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Right.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
They don't need to.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Thank you.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
For what?
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Software as a service SaaS. Yeah.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Yeah.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Yeah.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Right.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
No.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Yeah.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Right.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Yeah.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Really?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Oh, okay.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Yeah, let's be honest. I was in the Sunset Sounds recording studio and Lady Gaga was there and I had just gotten signed and she was recording paparazzi. And I was like, I'm out of my league. Like I was signed because Ron Fair had signed Vanessa Carlton. Yes, totally. And they were phasing out of that. They wanted pop, amazing singles. I don't write that kind of music.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I don't sing that kind of way. I was more in the Sheryl Crow, Natalie Merchant era. It was over. I had to come to terms with it. And then, as you know, I started licensing music.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Don't tell me.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Little Liars, Younger, Target, Walmart.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
So fun.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
You can make a lot of money with the commercials. Yeah. There was like 75 grand per use.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Okay, well, first of all, I just want to say that in the book I just wrote, it starts off with this like really spiritual sort of like landscape and then dives into the business and the resourcefulness because I just want to pay homage to you. A hundred percent, we were put here to take action. A hundred percent. We live in a physical world.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
You cannot just sit on a mountaintop and think that all of these things will happen. And also you would miss out on who you become when you take action. Like we were meant to do hard things and find that we have a bigger capacity to do things than we thought. Like that's all in the book. It just starts off with this, like, you know what? It starts off with a lot of the spirituality.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I have to say why, because My book was a version of this and it was supposed to come out in May. And after October 7th, I actually asked my publisher if I could put more spirituality and Judaism in the book and a little less business because everyone talks about anti-Semitism, which they should, I get it. But to me, I'm like, what about pro-Semitism? Like these ideas are so beautiful.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I'm like, I want people to know them. So yes to the business part. So how did I do that? Yes, you were right. I thought it was Beyonce or bust. You know, I had a record deal. I was like, I did it. Look, mom, take a picture. And then I got dropped. And then I actually got a second record deal with Craig Kalman at Atlantic. And I was like, oh my God, this is going to be so much better.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And so glad this is where I landed. And then I was supposed to write a soundtrack to Fraggle Rock. Ahmet Zappa wrote the script. Weinstein was going to do the movie. The movie never got made. And Craig Kalman, who's like a sweet guy at Atlantic Records, like we have no vehicle for your music. So then that ended. And then I thought, well, now it's really over.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And a friend of mine said, OK, so if you're going to give up your dream, you should go make a lot of money. And so long story short, she's like, what can you do to make a lot of money? You should work in commercial real estate. And so because you and I are pretty we're going to manifesting, like whether you like it or not, like good energy is the trick to manifestation.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Like having fun wherever you are is how you manifest. So I was in line at the Cheesecake Factory and this guy was standing in front of me in Brentwood and he was like, what do you do? And I was like, actually, I'm looking for my next thing. And he's like, I own $300 million of shopping centers. You should come work for me. You have good energy.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I'm like, oh, I was just thinking about commercial real estate. I'm like, went to work for this guy and I had a blast because you and I have a blast wherever we are. And I bought my little CLK coupe and I would like go with him to golf courses and then they'd make deals and exchange like tendencies in common. I don't even know what they were doing. They're buying pieces of shopping centers.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I was like, oh my God, people just neutrally exchange hundreds of millions of dollars. Like it's no big deal. Meanwhile, they're having fun. They're going to lunch. They're going to the opera. Like I'm in, you know? And after two years, I was like, you know what? I'm not in. Like I didn't come to LA to do this.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And I saw that I could be successful at it because I realized that every business, but especially real estate at that level is all people. It's just knowing how to be good with people. And they have to diversify their asset anyway. They may as well go with you. And I was like, but this isn't my life. Like I don't want to do this. And I was making good money, but I left.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And then I asked myself a new question, which is, is there any other way I can make money with music? Is it record deal or nothing? And I Googled that. And these articles came up about, like, you could license your music. I was like, what is that? I had never heard of that. And I saw Ingrid Michaelson was licensing her songs to an Old Navy commercial. And I was like, you know what?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I should do that. And now that I've had two years in the real estate world, I'm going to cold call my ass off. So I start cold calling Ogilvy, Leo Burnett. And they were like, who are you? Click. And then I just got, I like have a thick skin. So I'd be like, oh, okay. Don't call it noon. You know, call it four.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Oh, you remember? Yeah. So I decided it's the gold. It's the juice. How are you like bearing the lead? Okay. That's in my book. Yeah. So what I decided to do is I realized like it's people, it's people skills, right? So I was like, instead of asking them to give me an opportunity to write songs for their next ad, I was like, listen, what's your favorite Starbucks drink? And she's like, what?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I'm like, yeah, I'm like making it up on the spot. I'm like, I do this thing called mochas and music. I take your Starbucks order and then I'll bring you the Starbucks and I'll also bring you some music. This is like back when we would bring like a zip drive or something. And half the time they'd be like, no, thank you. But the other half of the time they were like, I want a caramel macchiato.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Oh, can you get one for my assistant? I'm like, sure. So I went to like 50 people's offices. And sometimes I would even call like an ad agency in Minnesota because a lot of the big brands are there, like General Mills and Target. So the ad agencies there do a lot of the big spots. So I would call these ad agencies in Minnesota and be like, you know, I'm going to be in Minneapolis.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And they're like, oh, when are you going to be here? I'm like, oh, I'm going to be there in October. And where should I go apple picking? And then I would take a trip because then I would get the meeting and I would go and then I would land the spot. And then I was like, oh, my God, every one of these trips is worth it because if you get one song in a McDonald's commercial,
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
They pay you $85,000 just to use it and you still own it. And then you can license it again, license it again. And then you're right. I started teaching other artists how to do that. And again, I didn't overthink that either. It was like, you and I are not, I'm not existential. It's not like, oh, is my whole life licensing music? No, you're just doing it.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Is my whole life now teaching artists to license music? No, it's just another yes and. Other artists started asking me. Actually, my friends and distant cousins were living right next door to me. And they were my first people, like, can you teach me how you do this? And I'm like, sure.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Here's the list of people that I've now found, but you can find more of these people by Googling who's the music supervisor. I'll show you how to Google it. I'll show you the numbers of names I know. And then my friend was like, this is so valuable. You should teach this. And I had my first class in my living room for 10 people. And then I was like, you know, resourceful. I should rent a theater.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And I start calling around LA and people are like, yeah, we don't even use our theaters on Tuesday during the day. We only use them at night. So I'm like, okay, there'll be like some weird set behind me for the play, but like I can rent it. She's like, yeah, if you rent it during the day, weekday, it costs like nothing, like 50 bucks an hour. great. So I start renting theaters, filling seats.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And then one of my students, now I was licensing my own music and teaching people how to license music. One of my students in one of the classes said, you should do an online class. I'm like, I don't have an online account. I don't have Instagram. She's like, but why would it only be, this is only available to people in LA. Like there's people graduating from Berkeley school music in Boston.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
They might want to learn this. So I put up my first webinar again, didn't overthink it. I was pregnant with my third daughter and I didn't have a single slide, no slide deck. I just did what you and I did, just like told people my story and said, it's $1,000, I made that up, $1,000 and you can be in a group for a year and I'll come on Zoom once a week. And 147 people bought it that night.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And I think this should be our like buzzword is resourceful. So you know what I did? I thought to myself, who knows songwriters? And I'm like, where do songwriters hang out? And then I thought, oh, you know who knows songwriters? The guy who books Hotel Cafe. The guy who books what used to be Room 5. These were songwriter places. So I called James at Hotel Cafe.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I'm like, how long is your list, your email list of songwriters? Because he'd been booking there for years. He's like, it's like at least a few thousand. I said, why don't you send them this email that I'm going to do this thing? It's a free workshop. So he's like, OK, like we weren't even smart enough to like give him an affair. I didn't even know that at the time. He was just like, sure.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And then because he was a songwriter, he wanted to come to it. And then the deal that we made, he was like, can I just be in your class for free? I'm like, sure. But after that, I said, why don't I give you like a cut if you send people? And then I did that. And then the next thing I did was like, but this is called hustle. But all I was what I was doing was just having fun and not overthinking it.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Yeah, they don't know what it means.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And do the work.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
You know, I was thinking my grandmother was a dancer. That's how she met my grandfather. And he danced with Gregory Hines' dad. And they used to do the hustle. It was a dance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I just realized is... The hustle can be fun. Meaning to say, that is how it should be. Like, I think the reason people don't like it is because they're not as much like us.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
So when they do it, they feel they have to do it perfectly. They have to overthink it. They have to be, you know, overpreparing. And then they feel really rejected when something doesn't work. I think you and I are like... I don't even notice if someone rejects me.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I'm just like, fine, on to the next one. And then it's actually fun because I don't overthink. I don't overplan. So to me, the hustle is more like my grandmother and grandfather dancing.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
That's so incredibly kind. I fully receive it. I feel like I'm getting like electricity running through me, just being in your presence and hearing all those nice things. And it is really special when someone's known you the whole journey because you see the person continue to reach for who they really are. And it's really cool. And I've watched you do that too. And that's really amazing.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Like, honestly, here's part of what I say to people is this. I'm okay if people decide not to like me. Isn't that insane? Because guess what? I don't like everybody. Yeah. I don't. Like, how many times you go to a party and you're like, oh, all these people, these are my people. No, there's like four girls. You're like, I love these girls. The other one, not so much.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Like, I think it's weird that we think everyone's supposed to like us. Totally true. People should reject you because you're not everyone's cup of tea. Oh, my God. Can you handle that? And also, why would you take it personally? People are so busy with their own self and their own life. They sometimes can't get back to you or they sometimes can't help you. Let it go.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I'm like, I find it a little narcissistic how people want other people's approval. I really don't. I don't. I don't need it. I'm really okay.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And people ask me why. And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm thinking, what do we have in common? But my parents got divorced when I was younger. If I missed an orthodontist appointment, I had to call. I knew how to talk to adults. I was a little bit older than my peers in a way. And my dad left. And so it was on me. I guess maybe on some level, that's the ultimate rejection.
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And I didn't even take that that way. So I'm like, if I don't take that that way... I'm going to be fine. I don't care. Like, I don't care. Let him go do his thing. I was relieved when he left. It was a toxic mess when he was there. Really? Yeah. My parents fought all the time. So then when they got divorced, I was like, thank God you got divorced. How old were you when they got divorced?
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Well, my dad lived a double life for a while, which was really gross because he would tell me about the sexual things he got to do with this new one when I'm like 12. But then he eventually left when I was 14.
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I mean, yeah. And then she would try not to know that I was telling the truth to keep herself from leaving. Like it was so lame. And also I think because my mom was so crippled with depression, I was like, that will never be me. I was like, you deserved to live your life and to bloom. And instead you let this guy like totally walk all over you and then left you. I'm like, I'm not going to do that.
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I'm like, why would you keep going back into something? And I, you know, I'm speaking. I know I'm sure you're friendly and connected to her. Dr. Edith Eager, I'm going this weekend to like this event to speak at her event.
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She's a Holocaust survivor. She wrote the book called The Gift and the Choice, like super bestseller books. And she's also a therapist. She was like being a survivor, right? She's a Holocaust survivor, but she's also like a therapist. She's like being a survivor is like everything from the past just turns to wisdom. And you survive by living your best freaking life.
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I think one of the reasons, and we'll talk about it today, why I get away with that with you, like the manifestation-ish sort of spiritual, like... the ease of the flow rather than the pushing is because I think you know from where it comes and you understand on some level, there's like a sincerity to it with me of what it really means to me.
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Like that's what you do is you're saying, I will not eat this poison again and again. Because when you go back into old memories, your body thinks it's happening again. And it's like, instead, why don't you create a good, amazing moment right now? I've always kind of been like that, though. Since I was a little girl, I was just like, there's so much to enjoy.
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Why are you guys just sitting in the sadness? There's so much more here.
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Older.
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Yes and no. We're different. Very different lives. But I think what you just said is like one of the reasons I actually love going on like a week-long meditation retreat. Like I've been with Dr. Joe Dispenza maybe four times on a retreat. And one reason I really love it is because you're not there to go back into your past and in your story.
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What you're actually doing is going to the truth of this present moment where you are bigger than your past. And you find within you like your capacity for passion and creativity and to see further. It's really interesting. I have friends who do mushrooms, okay, psilocybin. And they love it.
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And when I was with Dr. Joe at the last retreat, he showed us what psilocybin does to the brain. It shuts off the amygdala, which is where you sit in the past in your trauma.
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And opens up the third eye because it's a serotonin enhancer. And then you feel joy, right? But what he shared with us is you can create that experience by just getting out of the past, right? And stop projecting the past onto the present moment and actually go beyond time. to where you really are, the part of you that is actually available for a greater possibility, right?
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Like I say in the book, people either live from probability, which is really just called the past, what evidence they have of the past, or possibility, which is in the present moment, what is possible. And I think this is interesting research based on what we just were saying. We know this. You live this. Grit got a whole lot of attention with Angela Duckworth's book.
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And what I found fascinating when she says gritty people are the most successful, she says what makes a person gritty is optimism. Because in order to be in the science lab again and again and again and have the resilience to find a cure for cancer... You can't say, oh my gosh, I'm so upset I didn't find it yesterday. You have to be like, I know it's here. It's here. It's coming. It's here.
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So this is what you just said. Think about this. If the most successful people have grit and if the only thing that they can show that actually correlates to grit is optimism... then that is a person living in possibility, living in what's possible in the future, in here, in the present moment, rather than going back into the story of what already was.
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And I'm going to explain it to you so that your listeners hear it. But my word for and my paradigm for how to manifest is through a Jewish lens. And Judaism is really different with what we would call the law of reception, which is what Rabbi Aaron says that's like really Jewish, than Judaism. probably what's out there in the zeitgeist about most of what people hear about the law of attraction.
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So, you know, people might not like it or there might be other things. Of course, you and I can get a lot of things wrong and we don't know the full scope of why people go to therapy and maybe some of it is really beautiful and helpful and all that. But I went to therapy for years and I would say, based on what Angela Duckworth is saying, at some point,
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If you want to be, when she says successful, she doesn't just mean like having followers on Instagram. She means a life that feels fulfilling and where you're walking in your potential and everything feels good to you, right? That's success, fulfillment, right? Then optimism has to be something, and that is a discipline. My grandmother used to say, it's easy to find the bad.
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You have to look for the good. And I think that's what this is. In fact, I write about her in the book because she was born in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, lost her family in the pogroms, and they had no money, lived in a tenement, and her mother died really young. And yet my grandmother told me they had no money.
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So in order to go to a dance club, because she was a dancer, she would take an eyeliner pencil and draw a line up the back of her leg because you could only get in with stockings, but she couldn't afford the stockings. And the eyeliner pencil made it look like she had stockings on. And then she didn't go to school past the fifth grade.
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And she had a note on her shirt one day that said, this child suffers from malnutrition because the school said to her parents, you know, she had nothing. And yet she would go to the library and she would read and she would go to this dance hall. In fact, you would think this is cute. It was a restricted clubs to Jews. Jews couldn't dance there.
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So she said she was Italian because she had like dark hair and dark skin. She met my grandfather there and they started becoming dance partners. And she's like, oh, he's Italian. And he went by Benedito, even though his name was Baruch. He used an Italian version of that name to get into the club, but they were the two best dancers.
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And one day he walked her home and they were sitting on the stoop and she said, I can't date you, but I'm in love with you, but I'm Jewish. And he said, I'm Jewish. And I say that because I think my grandmother lives in me. I think her optimism, like with all the crap that's going on around me, I'm going to go dance. I'm going to find the music. Like her siblings didn't necessarily do that.
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Her siblings were like trapped in depression. Their mom had died. They came from the pogroms. They lost their family in the Holocaust. Well, it was before the Holocaust, but they lost their family too. Other versions of the Holocaust, which were happening in Eastern Europe, which is why three million Jews were killed in what is now the Ukraine, which is why so many came here.
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It was like a horrible time. And her mom died of tuberculosis and they had no money. Like it was so easy to say, here's all the trauma here. And she used to say to me, always find the music, always dance. And I like, why would you rob yourself of like what's possible in this moment and just keep looking at the past? And I think you and I were too excited about what's going to be possible today.
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I don't want to really focus on where I once was because I want to be here with you in this moment.
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That's not as much a Jewish concept as the law of reception. And I'm happy to like go into why they're different, but I think that's why, because you know me and because you, you're also really good at spotting if it's like bullshit or if it's real, we come from that same DNA, truly like we're part of the Jewish people. And so there's something about it that feels actually grounded to you.
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We need a deep dive. No. Cause it's so much more than a course. Courses, it's just like anything else. People use the internet for either lame things or cool things. So somebody can have an Instagram account that's very like lame and someone else can put a lot of value there. Your course doesn't need to be like a dumb course. It's going to be a program. It's going to transform people's lives.
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I'm going to work and talk about that. Okay, this could be the second course. Part two of my direction.
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It's so gross. I'm so allergic to this because we have this is, again, one thing I love about Jewish wisdom. Yeah. Is the way I've learned how we we don't have to choose. King David was one of the most spiritually evolved people. He wrote all those psalms. As I walk through the valley of Asherah, people are still singing these words. And yet, he ran an empire. Forget Kardashian wealth.
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King David had more money than Kris Jenner, okay?
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Have you seen her bank account? Maybe not. Maybe not. But he had to add inflation. But he could be both. And the word currency comes from the word current, which means on behalf of the world, when you get money in, it immediately is helping the world. Like, what do you put it under your pillow? No, you put it in a bank. So immediately while you making money, you're thriving.
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And I'm happy to like explain, explain why I think Judaism has an amazing lens on manifestation.
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So now your money is paying off people's loans and credit cards. Like if you improve your house and you paint your house and you have money, your neighbor's house just went up in value. Like why would you not allow yourself to say with a big declaration, because I say this in the book and you know this, this is like your world. I say, if you decided that you want to be healthy,
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would you declare that to your friends at like a dinner? Would you post on social media? Like, I've decided this is my healthy era. Let's go. I'm going to be healthy AF. And they're like, yeah, I would totally do that. I'm like, great. You should do that. Would you declare to your friends and to your world and on social media, like you want to be the wealthiest version of you?
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And like, oh, I would never do that. I'm like, why the stigma? Honestly, that's my question. It's not good. It's because we've been taught such scarcity mindset that if I have money, I'm somehow taking it from you. That's not true. If I open a store on Main Street because I have money, I just created more opportunities for other people to create stores on Main Street. The Talmud says like this.
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The Talmud says that money is like rain falling in a garden. It's an activator. This is really important because we have so much in our culture that tells us the more money you have, the more evil you become. That's a lie.
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You could make a list right now of people who have money who are horrible and people who have money who are amazing, whose names are on the sides of hospitals and theaters and everything. And you can make a list of people who have no money who are shitty people. And you can make a list of people who have no money who are awesome and kind. So the Talmud says it's an activator of what is.
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So the Talmud says if money is like rain and rain falls on weeds, more weeds grow. if money is like rain and rain falls on the flowers, more flowers will grow. So that means if a person is blessed to have money and they're out of integrity, they'll do more out of integrity with it. But if a person is in integrity and they've given more money, they'll just do more good with it.
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But women have a hard time. Like we've been raised, you know, little boys, whether we know it or not, now I'm generalizing, but it's the truth. Like by and large, boys are raised like you will be a provider when you grow up.
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And you're going to own it. Girls are raised like you will be codependent. What I mean is you will people please your way through life. Make sure everyone's comfortable all the time and set yourself on fire if you have to, to make sure because that's your job. You're responsible for everyone's feelings. No, like that's insane.
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It doesn't have to be.
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You know, there's a lot of potency to alignment, right? And so if a woman decides like she wants to have a business and whatever, she might be able, like I've been doing this work that I've been doing for, Working part-time and picking my kids up at 3 o'clock because I wanted to. I went through IVF. I want to be with my kids.
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I think when you focus on the right things in business, I don't know that I can claim Tim Ferriss that I do that a four-hour work week. I don't. But I work 20 hours a week. What I mean to say is you don't have to do it just because someone else did it that way. Right.
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I think there is a way for you to bring more ease and joy and play into it because business at the end of the day, we know this, it's not a numbers game. It is a people's game. And your greatest strategy in a business is your identity. What energy, what you put in the world, how you hold yourself, the way you talk to people, the doors that will open for you from that. That's your first strategy.
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Your second strategy is like Seth Godin would say, do you have radical empathy? Are you listening? Because if you're nailing it with a client or a customer, you've factored in what works for them. That's healthy. A business is basically a relationship at scale. You're good at reading the room and you're also good at having the confidence to to be a leader.
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Like so many women are like, I'm afraid to start a business because why? Well, because then I feel responsible for getting it all right. No, really good leaders don't have all the answers, but they lead their way through it. Like really good leaders in a business, in a family, you don't know what's coming around the bend.
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You can't be perfect, but you have the accountability to say like, all right, I'll figure it out. I'll ask good questions. I'll be resourceful. It goes back to that.
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Our careers and what's next? And I'm like, this is, So you all you have to do is talk and you're the you're not just it's not just that you talk and have interesting things to say what you do. You're so loving and you're so enthusiastic that people like talking to you. And I was like, you should totally have a podcast to be like the easiest answer.
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Exactly. So I think that's what keeps people is this feeling of like, I couldn't do it unless I could do it the way someone else does it or I could do it perfectly. It's like, it's not required. What's required is like, have the confidence to know that you've been preparing to be you every day of your life. It's enough. You know, a lot of women, I think you and I also have this in common.
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For some reason along the way, we decided to give ourselves the permission. We didn't wait for someone to give us permission. And so that's huge. Like who gave Oprah permission? Not that she's even the, but like who, she, she gave it to herself. A hundred percent. Right. At some point that's got to happen.
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It's like, I think the two biggest lies in the brain, which is mostly lying to you anyway, is I'm not enough and it's not possible anyway. And the truth is, who says anyone's enough to do anything?
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But the amount of people that I know that are like made it people who are like at the top of their game, who are literally weeping and feel dead inside is shocking, honestly. Because I think why I go back to this idea of the law of reception and all of that jibber jabber, because in a way it's like all we do is like blather as people. It's like Just, you're either like being real or you're not.
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But I think the real part of that is I'm very impatient. So for me, I want to have fun every step of the way, which means I'm not going to try to be perfect. I'm going to know that I can think on my feet and be resourceful. And I'm going to like myself enough to give myself permission to show up.
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Yeah. And when you're doing that, then if you get to the top of the mountain with some goal, it doesn't matter if you hit the New York Times list. You just had fun the whole time. That's what I'm saying. That's what I mean. I want to give you a good example. When I started my podcast, I went to Podcast Movement. And I'm like, okay, I'm here. Everyone had business cards.
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And I'm like, oh, I don't have business cards because I'm never prepared and I forget. So walking around, everybody had very schmoozy energy, which you and I were just talking before. I don't like that. I don't need to be in that room. So I'm like, when does this end? Okay, it ends in an hour. I was like, I'm going to leave. I'll come back when like the panel starts and the content starts.
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Okay. So here's the cool thing. So when I was 21, I went to Israel. I was supposed to be there for three weeks. Great. I graduated from college, go to Israel for three weeks, and then go on to my life. Instead, I met Rabbi Aaron. I was so compelled by the depth that he offered. I just kept extending my trip and I stayed for three years. And in those three years, I feel like,
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So I leave, completely leave the event for the networking, go to another hotel. And I said to my friend before I left, I'm going to leave. She's like, you don't want to stay. You could meet the head of Apple podcast. You could meet Spotify. They're here. I'm like, oh my God, I can't. Like, I just need to be, no, these people are just too, yeah. Yeah. So it was inauthentic to me.
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So I go to another hotel. I ordered a nice tea. I sat down. All of a sudden I felt fine again. I'm like, oh my God, that energy of like, you know, that's trying to get something. I just can't do it. So I sit there. This man sits down next to me. He's wearing the same badge I was wearing. And I'm like, were you in there? He's like, I hate that energy. I'm like, me too. So we started talking.
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He's from Chicago. We talked about the Midwest. He's really interesting. We talked about the last good book we read. And then he gets up. It's like 45 minutes later. And he's like, I'm going to go back in there. I'm going to meet you. He hands me his card. He was the head of Apple Podcasts. I love that. He is now such a good friend of mine. And of course, he then featured me on Apple.
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Of course, he then took me to New York to the podcast Upfronts. And then, yeah, a lot of good shit happened. But my point is, I know it sounds woo, but when you every moment, instead of thinking someone has the power that you don't, keep choosing yourself. You already won.
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Even if he didn't walk in, even if I didn't get featured on Apple, even if Steve and I never had become friends, it wouldn't matter. It just wouldn't matter. What mattered is that I knew enough to say, this is me losing my power all of a sudden. Trying to meet the right person who can do it for me. No one can do it for you. That's what I'm saying.
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programs programs because like it's infectious like you give people you you make people feel like they actually have the power we do have the power and you know wrap it up the way i wrapped up what's in this book at the end i was like how am i going to close this book and i think you'll appreciate this i may have even shared this with you esther young rice who's another holocaust survivor it was such a powerhouse like it's amazing she used to speak i think on the upper west side once a week i think a thousand people would come to the synagogue to hear her she was incredible
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And she said to me something just magnificent. She said her favorite prayer in all of Judaism is that in the morning blessings, which admittedly I don't do them, but I have seen this in the Siddur, so I know it's true. There's a prayer to be like a rooster. And she said it's her favorite prayer.
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And she said when she was in a concentration camp, before she parted ways with her family, her father said, never forget that prayer. It makes me cry. Be like a rooster. So there she was in a concentration camp, her head shaved, be like a rooster, be like a rooster. She didn't really know what that meant. And years later, get this, she was called, George W. Bush was president.
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He was going to Yad Vashem, which is a Holocaust museum, for those who don't know, in Jerusalem. He invited her to be his guest. So she gets on Air Force One. They go to Jerusalem and they have a great time and they're flying back on Air Force One. And she fell asleep and she woke. Well, he tapped her on the shoulder and he said, do you know where you are? And she's like, no.
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And he said, you're flying over Germany in Air Force One.
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coming from the state of Israel to America he said I just I had I had to have that moment with you and she said that is exactly when I knew why we pray to be like a rooster that was the moment she said because the rooster this is so powerful the rooster is the first one on the farm who knows just when it looks like the night cannot get any darker the exact second it's the darkest the
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Something hit control alt delete on the software program, which was how I saw the world and inserted in me like new software to which allowed me to like see the universe through the eyes of Judaism, which was unbelievably expansive. Like growing up, I knew Judaism was like locks and bagels and Mel Brooks. And it's like, I like Mel Brooks and I like locks and bagels, but there's so much more to it.
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That's the second the rooster crows and says, the light is about to break. You see the light? It got as dark as it could go. So that's how you know it's time to wake up because the light is here because the dawn is here.
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Jen, that is everything we basically just talked about is that I feel like I won the DNA fricking lottery because my grandparents and their grandparents, and by the way, everyone has this capacity. Don't want to be Jewish. Don't want to be Buddha. We all have the ability to be like a rooster. That's what we just talked about. No matter how you slice it, it's no matter where you are.
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One of the first questions, how do you change your energy? Be like a rooster. No matter what you've seen, no matter what you see at any moment, that's just the beginning of the story. The darkness is just the beginning. The light's around the corner and you have the capacity to bring that light and to bring that to other people. And that's why we're all here for that. I'm clipping that too. Yeah.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
one last thing I wanted to say because we were talking about spirituality and we were also talking about doing like taking action I find it really interesting when I graduated from college I wrote a paper comparing Moses and the Buddha Siddhartha and I thought it was really an interesting comparison because they both grew up in a palace okay which is so interesting yeah they both grew up as a prince and then they both went into the wilderness except what I think is interesting and this is just a matter of like observation it doesn't mean one is right or wrong I think it's beautiful to be Buddhist it's beautiful to be Jewish it's just interesting to me
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I like the fact that I think the idea in Buddhism is to really get into a state of peace, which I think they believe could then really affect the world, which you're probably right. I mean, who are we kidding? If people walked around in a state of inner peace and well-being, that'd be a really good thing. Totally. But what I like about Judaism for me is that one day a week we rest.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
We have the Sabbath, which is just similar to that whole idea of being at peace. But six days a week, God says, go out and make the world better. Go use your gifts because you're needed to contribute something and build something because you have something. I'm telling you, you're needed to help create and build this world. And I find that really fulfilling. Like, I really do.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Like, I find it really satisfying to go out and to be a part of helping to create and to build things. So I think the balance of one day a week being with what is and having equanimity and six days a week being out in the world and trying to take the right action to make the world better, I think that that's a really nice thing to keep in mind.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And Rabbi Aaron said to me at some point in those three years, he said, I feel like everyone's into the law of attraction. Have you heard of it? I'm like, yeah, that's kind of like the thing everyone's talking about. He's like, I just want to share with you, like, if you're in a conversation like that, I want you to know the Jewish take on it. I'm like, sure.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
So he's like, we would say the law of reception. I'm like, what is that? He's like, well, the word Kabbalah comes from the word likabel. Kabbalah means to receive. So it's the law of reception. I said, well, what does that mean? He said, well, if you had a radio and you put the radio in this room right now. And this isn't woo, this is reality.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
If you put the radio in this room, you turn it on and all of a sudden you would hear something. You might hear music, right? You might hear static, but you'll hear something. He's like, so let's say you hear music. Where was the music before you turned it on? And I'm like, I've never thought of that question. That's a fair question. He's like, the answer is it was hidden in plain sight. It's here.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
It's already an escrow. But in order to hear it, you have to tune the receiver to a frequency that can actually receive the music. And so he said, most people go through their life pointing at the music, so to speak, of their life. This is my reality. This is my relationship. This is my health. This is my bank account.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Not realizing that they're choosing what station they're hearing based on their music. And Einstein, right, like this is again not woo, this is just science, said that the world is not really made of three dimensions, but we perceive 3D with our naked eye because the eyeball sees things in cubes. It sees things in three dimensions.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
But the truth is that atoms are 99% energy and 1% particle particles. So most of the world in reality is something we don't perceive with our eyes, but it exists. It's 99% of the world. 99% of atoms are energy. So it's a frequency, which is why Malcolm Gladwell says in Blink, when someone walks in a room, within four seconds, you feel their energy.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
You just know if this person is net positive, net neutral, net negative, because the energy goes first. Even my cat. Like if someone walks in the space, my cat either like runs under the bed or is like kind of intrigued by this person. Babies can feel energy. You and I can feel energy. We know that if you sit down with someone and have coffee, the most impressive thing is not what they're wearing.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
It's their energy. It's like you have great energy. I feel like the reason people like being around you, you happen to be stunning. It's your energy. You Your energy brings people to life. Your energy is like bubbles that are boiling water that turn everything on. That's your energy. That's your greatest offer to the world.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
So Rabbi Aaron said, we have to understand that like we are vibrational beings. And when we're truly in flow and we're truly in alignment with our soul, not our ego, but our soul. then the music is on and everything is like beautiful music. And then our life is just like that. And then the synchronicity kind of takes over because what goes first is you're in the music.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
It's the easiest medium that God ever made for you. And then you did it. And I didn't even... Thank you.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
You have the vibration that like everybody wants to be around. So it becomes a magnet for stuff.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I mean, first of all, it's a really good question. And when I left Israel, I moved to Los Angeles and I started taking classes at the Mindful Awareness Research Center at UCLA. And I studied there for a few years and I started studying meditation, which was super hard for me at first.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And then I wound up learning what meditation really is, which is this is a long way to answer your question, but it's how I would answer it. Meditation is not about not thinking. Meditation is about witnessing your thinking.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
When I met Jon Kabat-Zinn, when I've gone to Joe Dispenza's workshops, anyone who teaches meditation is helping you to get out of the swirling blizzard of your thoughts and perceive them, witness those thoughts, because consciousness is actually not even in the brain.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I just had dinner with my friend, Dr. Lisa Miller, who's a professor at Columbia who studies the awakened brain, brains that have like a spiritual flow state, brains that connect to something transcendent. And she said they did an fMRI on a monk and there was no activity in the brain. Here's what I mean.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Most of the time, we are unconscious, thinking the same thing we thought yesterday, which makes us feel what we felt yesterday. We know that every thought secretes a hormone or a chemical like cortisol or dopamine or serotonin. And we are unconsciously living the same thoughts and the same feelings, which make us then do the same things we did the day before. So how do we change our energy?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
First of all, understanding instead of being in the blizzard of the mind, it's kind of like if it was Christmas morning and it's snowing outside. If you were in the living room looking at a snowstorm, it's actually beautiful. But if you're out in the blizzard, walking through the blizzard, it sucks. It's cold. You can't see in front of you four feet. That's being caught in the mind.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
So you've done a lot of podcasts. I've done almost a thousand podcasts. Everybody I interview who's living their best life, feeling really good, and you said how to change it, feeling good, is doing some version of some practice that gets them out of the cortisol addiction. That could be working out for some people. That could be meditating for some people. There's something they do there.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
so they don't just sit in the unconscious all day long. So when you say, how do you change your energy? Well, most people, first of all, become conscious that you're unconscious a lot of the time. You're just scrolling your phone and taking in a lot of like, ick, right? We have to remember, we get to decide.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I say to people, the same way you select what you're going to wear today, select how you want to feel. And when I teach people how to meditate now, I teach them like a five minute meditation that first of all, what you first do is like notice your body first. Is your body regulated or dysregulated? You're either betraying yourself or you're not. It's that simple.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And you will notice, oh my God, I'm actually like racing, right? I tell people, look out at nature. Do you see a tree that's rushing? Do you see like, you know, animals that are worrying and serious? No, they're in flow state. They're in homeostasis, right? You're not. you're in fight or flight. The amygdala is constantly putting you in fight or flight.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I feel like you do that for me. You're one of like five people that always tells me how proud you are of me. Like no matter what, we've been friends for a long time.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
So first notice your body, like attend to your body and maybe notice your sit bones. I'm like, can you feel your left or your right? Can you distribute your weight so you feel them both? Okay. That's the first step. Now, can you notice your thoughts with nonjudgmental awareness? Like, oh, I'm thinking of my mother-in-law. I'm thinking about my weight loss. Oh, I'm mad at myself.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
It's like, what if you could just have some distance from your thoughts and And then the trick is, who am I really? Because I'm not my thoughts. And when you really find this center part of you, there's a part of you that has equanimity, wisdom. It has a capacity to just see for miles and miles, right? And so...
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And that's what you start to do is you start to realize you are outsourcing your well-being all day long to what's going to happen, who you'll meet at the DMV, what good thing will happen. And when I teach people to meditate and they start to feel good again, they start to feel peace and equanimity and the lightness of being and their heart open and all that. It feels so freaking good.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I'm like, if you could feel that good. and give yourself less cortisol in those moments, which is good for you biologically, why would you wait to maybe feel good today as opposed to like plugging in, plugging in, right? That is how you start to feel better.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And it's just like this like very beautiful, generous heart. Like most people, look, most people have like a competitive vibe. Yeah, true. I feel like you and I are just like so happy to see each other just like in your light, thriving. And you do that for me.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
First of all, meditation has been such an abused word. That is meditation. The definition of mindfulness, right? And meditation is a byproduct of being in a state of mindful awareness, is having your own attention. Right. So a lot of monks, their meditation is making sand art. They say that an adult coloring book is a form of meditation.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
There's no such thing as beating yourself up that one version of meditation doesn't work for you. I also don't want to sit and breathe in and breathe out and say a mantra.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Also, the other thing that's really cool about what you and I, I think, are more drawn to is when people are in flow state, when Tom Petty was writing a song, let's say, he's in a meditation because what they've come to find out from the science of the brain is like when you're in a creative low. you are in the present moment, right? You and I are not people that overthink things.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I don't sit and try to figure out the ROI. What's going to happen? I'm like, let's just take action. Let's just go. And guess what? Then my whole life is like a meditation because I'm in the present moment having fun now, not saying, well, I'll only have fun if this gets 15,000 downloads or somebody. It's like, no, no, no. I don't even know if this idea is going to work, but I want to test it.
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I want to create. I want to keep going. That is what That's what nature is doing all the time.
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When CDs were a thing.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
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Because they're going to lean in to kiss you.
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Yeah.
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You just did it before I reached for my face and you did it with three, too.
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Down one finger. And I was like, you mirror me down to my fingertips.
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Right. It's already almost a done deal.
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Probably. I can do this all day.
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That's not good. Wow.
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Would I really...
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
Do you know about Misogi?
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Do you know where it comes from?
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
It comes from this guy. This comes from Marcus.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
Yeah. Yeah. You should read that chapter. Oh my gosh. Okay.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
And then Kyle Korver. We'll talk about it. Okay. So when Marcus was in medical school, Harvard Medical School, he and a friend named Garth were very outdoorsy and they didn't like being in Boston and they wanted to sort of get back to the country. So they went to the Wind River Range in Montana, which is extremely high elevation, like 12,000 feet at the low parts. And
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
very intense and they were going to pack almost nothing and catch what they were going to eat and deal with altitude by just being tough and like 10 minutes in that's a slight exaggeration garth gets altitude sickness has to go home so then but he's been the lead up he's been talking to marcus about how he does all these martial arts and there's this like shinto tradition
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
of Misogi, where you do, as Garth explained it, which is not totally accurate with the Shinto tradition, but you once a year, you do a challenge that's so intense that you think you're only 50% likely to make it. And so Marcus latched onto it as this idea of a way to get into your capabilities that are beyond what you think they could be. We're held back by our brain a lot of times, right?
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
A lot of the times, even in like breath holding, you get this panicky feeling you have to breathe long before you need oxygen, right? So you want to defeat that a little bit. And so they've done crazy things. One of the ones was run a 5K on the ocean floor carrying a rock. So if we were partners,
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
i would drop the rock it's like they do it in like the channel islands so like 10 feet deep under the waves drop the rock on the ground and then you dive down and pick it up and run as far as you can and then drop it and then i swim down pick it up run as far as i can and they do a 5k or they they paddleboarded from the channel islands to santa barbara
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
which is nine hours of wind and sharks and craziness. Nine hours. Or they climbed the height. Actually, most of them failed this one. They arranged to climb the height of Mount Everest in, I think it's called the U.S. Bancor Tower in L.A. Is that what it's called? Something like that. But a skyscraper.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
Yeah.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
The purpose of it is to shut your brain up when it tells you you can't do something. The purpose of it is to show your brain. Movement is actually interesting in rewiring your brain in terms of limits and also pain. If you have chronic pain, which is a big topic in the book too, because it's the reason why a lot of us don't move like we want to,
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
uh i talked to this awesome pain expert rachel zoffness who explains basically like the way that you convince your body it can do something where like it's sending pain signals is carefully progressing through more movement right the movement sends the signal back like no we're okay doing this so in doing a misogi you're you're telling your body like
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
you might feel like we can't paddleboard for nine hours, but I'm telling you we can. I'm showing you we can. We're going to feel that we can. And once you've finished that, you kind of have this self-regard where you're like, maybe I can do anything.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
And they used to have this thing called the Harvard Fatigue Lab around World War II where they would just abuse people and see how much they could,
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
take right and they found there's almost no physiological limits like people can deal with like insane amounts of heat or cold or you know dehydration or whatever like they just like can't really find the limits are in our brain so i mean this this is where it sounds like kind of trippy but like in writing this and i went to this research like every animal that flies used to not fly which means there was like a first one to fly like
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
That is trippy, huh?
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
Right.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
And I think about the lemmings, right? It's like they're all trying, right? They're all just like, maybe I got it. Maybe I got it. That's so true.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
People have those skin suits. They're getting closer, you know?
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
I mean, I don't know, but I'm not going to tell them they can't, right? I'm going to leave that up to them.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
Not soon, but... But if animals can do it. There are things that used to be fish that fly now. You know what I mean?
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
I mean, we all evolved from little sea creatures, I think. That's true. That's true.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
And there's this great study about, like, you can see on an MRI in the brain, like, a little thing that happens when a thing starts to fly. Like, when the first dinosaur started to fly, the skull got a little different to accommodate, like, this little new brain activity. I gotta use this for my research. Yeah, yeah, there's an idea.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
When a pigeon flies, that same little part of the skull has this little extra activity of whatever they have to do to fly. I'm guessing that the first step in humans flying would be that in our brain. We're flying. This is the to me is like, you can change your brain.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
You know, they can put a freaking, I don't know why they chose this thing, but they, like an owl can only survive if it catches mice and stuff, right? And that's why its eyes are like way bigger than ours. Like 30% of their head is eye. And they have better eyes than we do.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
But they would put like basically goggles or lenses on the owl so that it was seeing the whole world through a prism and it was like totally screwed up. Now they can't survive, right? But it would take them like two, three days to learn how to catch a mouse looking through that crazy mess. Because they just like learned a new language. They learned a new way to do it, right? Wow.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
And that's like only survival will give you that like crazy burst of learning, right? And I feel like this is what the Musogi is touching a little bit is like maybe we can do way more than we thought.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
Great question. So you know how I said this is kind of like learning language. And there's like the two ways, right? There's like drilling with your teacher doing vocab drills. And then there's like, just move to Quito and see if you can speak Spanish, right? So in the lab, you know, you pay them, whatever, that's going to be the vocab part.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
That's where they're going to assess you and watch you and coach you. Like the outside the lab part is not part of the paid service, right? This is just like, that's how Marcus lives his life. And a lot of his
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
friends and some a lot of the nba you know kyle corver was an nba player for a long time he and marcus became like best friends and that's kind of how misogi got out into the world because um there was an outside magazine article about kyle doing his first time with marcus i don't know like 10 15 years ago and so there's like this you know that that knowledge is out there marcus does it all every year he does misogi and i think if you want to you know yeah his recommendation is somewhere out in nature not something you practice
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
with friends and not something that's like easily measured. So it's fun to have a kind of amorphous like we're going to go from here to there or from that mountain to that mountain or whatever it is. But the problem is, if it's something you practice, then you're going to be thinking the whole time about well, I know I can run this mile pace and this many miles and blah, blah, blah.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
He wants you to think like, Kyle Korver had never been on a paddle board before in his life when he first started to paddle from the Channel Islands, which means his brain is massively expansive. Wow.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
It's so scary. At some point someone dropped a chicken burrito in the water and they thought they were going to have shark attack. And then like there was a, I don't know what a sunfish looks like, but I guess it has a fin that looks like a shark. And they all like freaked out because there was this like fin in the water.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
They did have a... Well, they had each other. There were a bunch of them, but they also had a boat of, like, they could retire if they wanted. They can jump in the boat. Okay, okay. Yeah, don't die. That's one of the other rules.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
Don't die. Don't die.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
It's a great one. Yeah. Yeah, very important.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
You're asking today because you're in pain.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
Yeah, yeah. No, I went through hell. I'm writing a book about joy of movement. And I was on the floor in the dark with an open bowl of Tylenol. It was like the most pathetic. Oh, my God. My brother-in-law. I was feeling like, oh, I'm getting better. I'm figuring out my stuff. And my brother-in-law popped by. It was Christmas. And he's like, this is so sad. And I'm seeing it through his eyes.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
I'm like... Yeah, it's super sad. Oh my God, that's hilarious. So then I did regular PT like all of us would do. But I had to come back out to Santa Barbara to finish writing the book. And when I got out here, they were like, can we just try to help you? Can we assess you? And I had said I didn't want to be part of it because I didn't want to lose my journalistic objectivity or whatever.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
But finally, I was so desperate. I was like, all right, let's go.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
and they assessed me on a friday and put me through a little i had one session of physical therapy and then just did the workout including that thing i mentioned with the foot on the floor and weird stuff like a stork press look that one up that's kind of cool they're a bunch of weird moves i had never done before press school and then the next day marcus you know who is a doctor he's a medical doctor and he knew all of my results he was like why don't we go for a hike and
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
And then on the hike, the hike that he took me on in the hills above Santa Barbara, which are so beautiful, we're hopping from rock to rock, which isn't something I would have been doing. I was in so much pain before, but because he knows what he's talking about, he gave me permission to give it a whirl. And Jen, like, it was like, you know, first one, I'm like, we'll see how this goes. Right.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
And like, first one, like,
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
okay but then as my right leg was usually more painful so then i'd like you know there's a stream and i have to clear it and make it to the next rock i'm like i go airborne i'm just like this might be murderous when i land yeah but it was okay and like i'm thinking about using my hips more and i'm thinking about the ball of my foot and and then next thing you know i'm like Like, I can do this.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
And I think that since I had already done the PT, I was ready for this, but I wasn't going to give myself permission to take that kind of risk. But I needed to move like that. I needed to convince my brain not to send wild pain signals all the time.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
And it totally fits with the research. At some point, you got to move, right? And it's not the day of the injury, right? Right.
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
Yeah, well, I sent Mark, there was an article in New York Times, like, I don't know, three years ago, maybe, which said, like, basically, to cure what ails you, walk. Yeah. And there's a lot of evidence about this. And so I sent that to Mark because I wasn't sure what he was going to say. And he was like, yeah, for, like, a broad swath of people, walking will cure a lot, right?
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
A lot of us are so immobile that this counts as. Right. But he's like, but, you know. Don't you want to do more fun stuff than that, right? Don't you want to learn how to really move? Marcus's take is that basically if you manage your hips and your ankles and feet well, then these things will still come up, but they'll just be speed bumps, right?
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Episode 452: Henry Abbott on Misogi - The Extreme Challenge With a 50% Chance of Failure
Rather than being out six months, you'll be out two weeks.
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Episode 408: Robert Greene: Are We All Narcissists? + Tips for Self-Awareness
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up.
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Episode 408: Robert Greene: Are We All Narcissists? + Tips for Self-Awareness
When something's contrived, you feel.
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Episode 408: Robert Greene: Are We All Narcissists? + Tips for Self-Awareness
Yeah. I mean, you know, now circling right back again to human nature, you're talking a lot about how we're all some level. We're all narcissistic to some capacity, right? But I found it interesting. You were saying that the deep narcissists tend to end up being quite successful in life.
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Episode 408: Robert Greene: Are We All Narcissists? + Tips for Self-Awareness
Right? They'd be like a CEO of a technology company. Yeah. Is it because... Tell me, well, why don't you talk about that a little bit? I'm interested in that. Why? Why do you think they can be? Because...
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Episode 408: Robert Greene: Are We All Narcissists? + Tips for Self-Awareness
You don't have to be brief at all. I love having you here. I don't want you to ever go.
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Episode 408: Robert Greene: Are We All Narcissists? + Tips for Self-Awareness
Be as long-winded as possible.
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Episode 408: Robert Greene: Are We All Narcissists? + Tips for Self-Awareness
I love that when you said that. It's always that person who is that person.
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Episode 408: Robert Greene: Are We All Narcissists? + Tips for Self-Awareness
One of your things was, and I think it was 48 Laws of Power, was to be kind of like, to kind of be flamboyant in a way, to stand out, right? That's one of your points.
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Episode 408: Robert Greene: Are We All Narcissists? + Tips for Self-Awareness
It's so true, though, when you think about it, right? Like, we tend to like the people who like us the most, right? That's just what we do, right? Like, if someone flatters, they'll say, oh, you're so great, you're so nice, you're so this, you're so that. Because it makes you feel good, you want to be around that person, obviously.
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Episode 408: Robert Greene: Are We All Narcissists? + Tips for Self-Awareness
So at what point is someone being authentic and that's who they are versus putting on a show or an act because they know they're being somewhat manipulative because they know, like a Madonna, for example, or that if they don't stand out, they'll just kind of like fade into the background, right?
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Episode 408: Robert Greene: Are We All Narcissists? + Tips for Self-Awareness
The inner self you're saying, yeah, or... Or B...
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it!
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Yeah.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Right.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Yeah.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Yeah, for sure.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Yeah, although I will say as someone that is California sober, marijuana is not poison. Alcohol is.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
100%.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I can always find something to be joyous or at least grateful for, which leads to joy. And I think it's having that, learning to discipline your disappointments, you know, not allow them to grow and to move on and to use whatever life has given you. But to me, it's like, I think there's three decisions that people make every moment of their life. Now, I'm not saying they make them consciously.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
If you make them unconsciously, you have the same patterns over and over again. And usually they're not good ones, right? And sometimes they're good, but not usually. And I learned these really because I had an experience when I was 11 years old, I had I was my fourth father and he got fired and we had no money and no food. We were always poor, but I mean, we wouldn't have starved.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
We had saltine crackers and peanut butter, right? But when everybody else around you is having a big Thanksgiving dinner, it was pretty depressing. And my mom and dad were saying things to each other that once you save them, you can't take them back. And I have a younger brother, five years younger and a younger sister, seven years younger.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So I felt like the parent almost, I'm trying to protect them. I'm only 11 years old. And what changed my life is this bang on the door. I go open the door and there's this guy, big guy with groceries in both hands. And he had a pot on the ground with an uncooked turkey. And he looks at me and says, is your father here? And I'm like, just one moment.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I'm just like, this to me was like Christmas, right? This is the greatest thing. It's going to stop the fighting. It's going to be incredible. So I go to my father and I say, you know, dad, dad, somebody at the door for you. And he's yelling at my mom through the closed door that she slammed on him. And he goes, you answer. I said, I did. It's for you. He goes, who is it? I said, I don't know.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
They said, they got to talk to you. Right. And I have this level of excitement, like little boy excitement, like this is going to be the greatest thing. And my dad opens the door and, I'll never forget the look on his face. He got angry. which shocked me. And he said to the man, we don't accept charity before the guy even said anything.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And he went to slam the door and the guy had leaned in slightly. So it hit his shoulder and it bounced off of him, which made my dad even madder. And then he said, he goes, sir, sir, I'm just the delivery guy. You know, somebody knows you're having a tough time. Everyone has a tough time and they just want you to have a great Thanksgiving with your family. My father says, we don't accept charity.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I think there's, if you want an extraordinary life, which my definition of that is life on your terms. Like, what's my idea? It might be different than yours completely. Some people, it's three beautiful children, a white picket fence. Some people, it's building a multi-billion dollar business. Somebody else, it's writing poetry, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
He goes to slam it again. But I think because he leaned in, his foot came in now. Now it hit his foot and bounced open again. And it's just like, now I got fear running through my body because I know my father, right? And my father looks at him and the guy looks at him and says something. I thought my father was going to punch him in the face. And he didn't do it mean.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
He had a softness in his face and he said, sir, he saw me. And he said, don't make your family suffer because of your ego. And the veins on my father's side of his neck were like this. He's red. I thought for sure he was going to punch the guy. And then all of a sudden, his shoulders dropped, like defeated. He took the groceries.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
He slammed them on the ground, slammed the door, didn't even pick up a turkey, and didn't say thank you or anything. And shortly after that, he left our family, which to me at the time was the worst experience of my life, I thought. And so I was kind of obsessed with trying to figure out why. And I didn't figure it out for a couple of years.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I had versions of it in my head, but now I use it in my life every day. And so I submit it to your viewers as well. These are the three decisions that I think everyone makes every moment. First, you're doing it right now. What are you going to focus on? You're going to be focusing on the story I'm telling you. You're going to be focusing on the next question you're going to ask.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You're going to be focusing on how your stomach feels if you've not eaten. There's a million things you could focus on, literally. But we don't experience life. We experience the part of life we focus on. And so the bottom line is I know my father and I had a different experience because we had different focuses that day. I was focused on his food. You know, what a concept. This is cool.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
He was focused on that he had not taken care of his family. And I know that because, you know, he said it about 20 times under his breath. And my mother echoed it, of course. The second decision, though, the minute you focus on something, your brain has to decide what does it mean? And meaning is what creates emotion, and emotion is where your life is, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And so the quality of your life is the quality of your emotions. If you got a billion dollars and every day you're pissed off and angry, your life's quality is called pissed off and angry. If you got three beautiful children, a husband or wife you love, but you worry all the time, your life is worry. You know, so his focus and then his meaning, that was the worst part.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
The meaning he gave it was that he was worthless and didn't belong here. And that usually leads to the third decision, which is what are you going to do? And like, if you think the meaning is something happens, you say, this person is dissing me, you know, disrespecting me, or is this person challenging me? Or is this person coaching me? Or is this person loving me?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So instead of looking for somebody else, it's like, okay, what do you really want from your life? and aligning yourself with moving forward towards what you really want. And I think if you can do that in a way that also you feel serving others simultaneously, there's a sense of meaning in life that can't be replaced by self-esteem or praise or compliments or being nice to yourself.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I don't know if self-esteem is the answer. I don't think it's bad to be hard on yourself, as long as you also celebrate when the victories happen. But so many people will tell you, I have poor self-esteem because when I was a kid, people said this to me and that to me. It's convenient that we remember those things and not the positive things that also occur, obviously.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
If you think they're dissing you, you're gonna have a very different emotional reaction than if you think they're coaching you or loving you. And then of course, that's gonna change what decision you make. Because if you're angry, you're gonna make a different decision than if you're playful or generous or whatever the case may be. So those three decisions control our lives.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
But so your viewers or listeners, I give them an opportunity to take a look at it because there's some patterns that you can make some simple patterns and change your whole life of focus. So the first one is, and I'd ask you two questions for you. One, Chris, is what do you think most people's answer to this question is? And the other is what's yours? If you're ready, ready to play. All right.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
It's real simple. We all have a pattern of focusing on what we have and at times on what's missing. Which one do you think most people spend more time focusing on what they have or what's missing? What's missing? What do you focus more on? What's missing? Yes. It isn't something that comes, the focus on what's missing is not something that comes with someone who is a failure.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
It comes very much with people who are very successful. And the question then becomes, if you're always focused on missing, how can you sustain happiness?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
That's correct. So scarcity is there. So you'll have drive, right? To keep staying on the hamster wheel of achievement. but you're not going to see much fulfillment, not in a sustainable way. It's impossible. And it has nothing to do with you or me, right? It's just software. And we got a soul.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
We're not software, but you run your software so often, you start thinking your mind is you versus my mind is a tool that I'm going to use. Or if I don't use it, it's going to use me. So the majority of people do that. And by the way, during COVID, that number exploded because so many things were taken from people. They were constantly focused on what's missing and that produces nothing but pain.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Second question, and I think I know your answer to this one, which do you tend to focus on more? What do you think most people focus on more, what they can control or what they can't control? And then which one do you focus more on?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I was going to say, you strive. It's part of your philosophy, right, to focus on what you can control, right? So that's part of the stoicism, the whole philosophy of stoicism, right? But most people, you're absolutely right.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Now, in my seminars, it's different because I got 15,000, 20,000 people ask that question, and the vast majority of them say they're focused on what's missing, but the vast majority of them say they do focus on what they can control. That's why they came. Why would they spend their money and time?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I don't think it's bad to be tough on yourself. I'm pretty tough on myself, I'll be honest with you. But I also, I'm much better at celebrating now. And I also realize being overly tough on yourself usually comes by making decisions you know, comparisons that don't make sense.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
They want to take control of their business or their body or their relationship, whatever the case may be. So they have a different belief structure. If you have both of those out of whack, you got some real challenges. Most people have at least one out of whack, which creates stress.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And then the third one, and there's many more than these, but just quickly for the people at home, and I'm asking them to do this for themselves if they want to, where do you tend to focus more? Your past, your present, your future? We all spend all three, but where do you spend more of your time? Where do you think most people do? Where do you? Yeah.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Yeah. And that's where most achievers live. We do. I have to discipline myself not to do that because what makes you an achiever is anticipation. you've learned by a long time, anticipation is power. As I'm listening, I'm watching you, you're anticipating, you're processing, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Yes, it does. And it gives you a sense of control. And also, if you don't anticipate, it's like playing a video game against the child. Now, you're a different generation, so you might kick the child's ass, I don't know. But my generation, I didn't play any video games
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So if a child, you know, is your nephew or your niece or your grandson, granddaughter or your son or daughter, and you give them a gift, let's say of playing a video game, you give them a new video game for Christmas or their birthday, what's the first thing they do? Oh, look, come play with me, pops. Come play with me, uncle. Come play. No, no, no, I don't do those things. Oh, let me show you.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
It's so easy. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Three shots. Boom, boom. They're going great. So some part of you finally says, I'll show this little bastard something here. I'll go ahead and do this thing here. All right, fine. Give me this thing. But you should know you're being set up when the kid says something to you like, you go first, right? And so you go and you go, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And you're dead in four seconds, right? The kid goes, not bad. Not bad for the first time, right? And then they take the, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum. And 45 minutes later, you get your second turn, right? Now you're really pissed. Maybe you make it two minutes. The kid goes for another 45. Why does the kid win every time?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Is it because they're smarter, faster, younger? No, it's because they played this game before. They can anticipate the first bad guys here, the second bad guys here. You're in reaction, they're anticipating. So it has tremendous power. So it's addictive when you learn to anticipate and it's also a great skillset for business, for life and so forth.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I remember, I remember I could just was walking by and I saw, as I was walking here, a picture that reminded me of something, which was years ago, I was in Atlanta, Georgia. I was in my early twenties, 23, 24, 25. And I was doing a seminar. And those days there weren't 15, 20,000 people. It was 125 people. I remember because it was the biggest seminar I'd done. I thought it was so exciting.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I always tell people, if you're running a business, you're always running two businesses, the business you're in and the business you're becoming. If you only focus on the business you're in, someone's going to replace you. If you only focus on what you're going to become, you're going to have the cash flow to be able to get to that place, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So it's a very similar situation inside of where we are. So for each of us, most of us who are achievers tend to focus on the future, but all the joy is in the present, right? You can have some anticipation of the future and be excited about it. Most people's stress comes from either the past or the future. The majority of people spend a lot of time in the past. right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And the problem is you can't change it. And you can use it as a reference to me, maybe for you. I don't know. I might project. You've probably come a long way in your life as my guest from Love Island to Modern Wisdom. That's quite a journey.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So there's been some growth in your psychology, your spirit, your soul to say the least, right? So the contrast of remembering where you were and who you've become is probably a beautiful thing. But if you use it that way, but most people go back and they ruminate about the past or they ruminate about a future that they can't control and the presence there. So the goal is ideal is fuel.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
The ideal fuel is a combination of the two.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
present that gives you that centered grounding and anticipation for the future the ability to bounce back and forth is the ideal for people so i'll give you an example to wrap this up um do you know anybody who has i asked this when i have an audience you know giant audience how many of you will say know somebody who takes antidepressants and they're still depressed yes yes 90 of the room raise their hand how's that possible
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Because first of all, two years ago, they did meta studies on the cover of Newsweek and it said SSRIs do not work. Sugar pills work as well as SSRIs.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Yeah, you read the study. We're still giving to everybody. It doesn't make any sense.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
It's just... But it's just, you think of the insanity of that, of us continue to do what doesn't make any sense. So I think, you know, your question is really focus, getting it back to the focus. I think if we make the right decisions, the first one is what we're going to focus on. And that's just a habit. You change anything. Take that person. Why is that person depressed still?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Because all that drug does is numb you.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And numbing doesn't deal with the issue. What's the real issue? You're constantly focused on what's missing versus what you have. You're focused on what you can't control. And there's two worlds, right? The external world, the internal world. We can't control the external world. We can influence it. We can't control it. If you think you're in control, you have a deep illusion.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I went to Mexico recently. You and I were talking off the air. And I discovered I couldn't even fully control my bowels. It's not something I want to talk about. But it's like all the willpower in the world doesn't mean squat. No pun intended, right? So it's the part we can control is what's going on inside of us. And that we can control what we focus on. We can control the meaning.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
We can decide the meaning. We're the meaning makers and we can decide what to do. And when we can make those three decisions, we're in control of our life. And all the anxiety and bullshit tends to go away, especially if we're trying to do that to serve something more than ourselves.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Not like you're so unselfish, you're not going to succeed because you can't serve something more than yourself and not benefit. Right. So it's like, it's not like you're sacrificing, you know, the people that play that game. It's not a sacrifice. It's like philanthropy. You know, I hear people talk about, well, philanthropy.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I'd give my heart and soul and, you know, going 12, 13 hours a day. And on the third day, the rooms were so small, then I'd go by and look in everybody's eyes. I gave everybody a flower. I mean, it was just, I look back now, it seems silly, but it was really just, I wanted to make that connection. I want to make sure that they had made that shift.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Well, a friend of mine the other day was on an airplane and somebody was reading. I just thought my book triggered me. It was life force. And person was really into it. And he said, Hey, what do you, he's known me for 45 years. And he says, what do you think of that book? Oh, it's incredible, the stem cells and this. You can't believe the breakthroughs. I don't know why we didn't know about this.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
What do you think of the author? Oh, he seems like a really good guy, and he donated all the profits to feed people. Of course, he's totally rich. So, I mean, it's easy when you're rich, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
My buddy turns to him and he said, well, what if I told you that I knew him since he was 17 years old, 45 years ago, and that I remember when he had $20 to his name, there was a guy in the street and he gave him 10 bucks and told me that the time to give is when you don't have it. And he said, and I watched him build that all the way up there.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
He taught me that if you don't give a dime out of a dollar, you're not going to give 100 million out of a billion, right? And it's like people look at things and they make their focus something like, oh, I'm sacrificing or I'm going to do philanthropy because, you know, I'm rich. No, you do philanthropy because it's a source of kindness and love. Philanthropy can be your attention.
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Philanthropy can be your time. Philanthropy can be a buck, five bucks. Philanthropy, you're in line with people in Starbucks and you, you know, I remember doing this research, I couldn't believe it.
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If you buy five people who you don't know their coffee, you get a biochemical change that has a more lasting impact than most things you could purchase for yourself instead of including large purchases. So it's like, it's intelligent selfishness is the truth. You can't possibly do good and not feel good. When you want some self-esteem, do something worthwhile beyond just yourself.
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What do I rely on? What do you mean by that?
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Well, I think, you know, when you think about framing, I look at framing as three. I call pre-framing and reframing and deframing. Most people are familiar with the reframing. Reframing is you came up with a meaning and it's not so good. And so now you're going to change it or you want to do it with someone else.
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I was like so obsessive about making a true transformation happen. And earlier in the day, I got a phone call from a friend of mine who said the boss, Bruce Springsteen, he was the biggest star in the world in those days. I loved him. And he's four blocks from you. He's at the Atlanta stadium there with the Hawks play. You got just finished early and come over and And you got to take it in.
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You're going to influence someone and they have this negative frame and you're going to reframe them. That's a lot harder than pre-framing. Pre-framing is, well, I'll tell you a sample story to make it simple. Pre-framing is telling somebody, getting someone to focus on something, knowing in advance what you're going to focus on and giving it a meaning in advance before it happens.
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That's a lot easier than after it's happened. Because after it's happened, you have a meaning locked in to some extent, especially if it's something that's painful. So I'll give you a simplistic example. I remember one day I went and I lived in San Diego, California, and I had a helicopter and I was flying up to LA, and I love flying.
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And that morning I got out and I had a couple of cars to choose from. And I chose this little Corvette I had in those days, blended my hair. I'm going to have fun. I drive, I fly to LA. I did this TV show and land on the roof. It was so much fun. I didn't even have to go to the airport and flew back.
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And I was just like in euphoria, having a blast, you know, it was actually Bill Maher when he used to do his program up in LA. And, um, and then I got in the car, you know, and it's getting dark and I'm driving and, um, Sure enough, oh, I'm incorrect about things. The last minute, I traded out the car. That's right. My wife needed the car, so I traded out for the BMW 750 IL. Why does that matter?
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I'm driving home. The helicopter ride, that's not dangerous. I'm on the road, you know, long winding road from the airport to the main freeway area. And I come to the stoplight and I'm, I'm on the phone chatting as I'm waiting and on the speakerphone. And all of a sudden I see these lights are coming really fast and really fast. And so then they get so fast.
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I was like, Oh my God, is this guy going to break? And before I could finish thinking the thought, At 65 miles an hour, the guy had to sit me from behind. He fell asleep at the wheel. So I can remember everything in slow motion. In those days, you had your tape deck in there, and it went flying past my head in slow motion. I mean, everything changes when you're in that kind of an experience.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I'm sure if you've ever experienced it, you know what I mean. And all I remember is waking up and the fire people extracting me out of the other side of the car. And they're like, you want to take me to the hospital? And I was like, no, I'll see my chiropractor in the morning. And then I woke up the next morning, I couldn't move. It was pretty rough.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
But the reason I tell this story is eventually I got well, and I need to go buy another car. Well, I never had the criteria before of safety. But that car, everyone told me that car saved your life. That car literally, if it wasn't the Corvette, it would have been. Just as well it wasn't the Corvette.
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Exactly right. So why did I tell you that? So I go looking for a car. So I thought, you know, this BMW, those damn good car, but I want another sports car. I'm going to get another 750 IL, but let me get a sports car to replace that Corvette. You know, I want something that's dirty and so forth. So the guy took me where it was three 25 eyes, whatever they were calling those days.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I forget what it was, you know, stick shift. And I see, he said, you know, he got me in the car and he said, now, before we go out, I want to tell you, I'm going to take you on this winding road. It's amazing. And, you know, this is the ultimate driving machine. He said, it's not like your 750i. Your 750i, you don't feel the damn thing.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
It was Christmas time. He said, it's going to be incredible. I said, I'd love to come. But I said, I just can't do that. That's if I said, if I finish somehow in time, it all happens. He's still on stage. You know, I'll call you and see what's going on. So I finished the seminar. I don't know how long it was, almost 11 o'clock at night.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
He goes, when you get in this car and you shift into it, he goes, we drop into it, you'll feel the wheels catch into it and grab it. He said, you'll see this is the ultimate car. So what's he doing? He's pre-framing me. Because we're going to go through a construction area that's all beat up, right? So we go in the construction area. And at 750, I wouldn't have felt anything, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Just boom, smooth. And it's bouncing around. And even though I know what he just did, my partner's like, yeah, it is really digging in, right? If he had tried to tell me after I'd done that, I would have gone, that's a piece of crap car. Because he pre-framed me. So I pre-framed myself. And the way I do it, I call priming. You're familiar with the principle of priming, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So most of us think we're having our own thoughts. Most of our thoughts have been primed by the environment. So an example would be they did a study at Harvard where they took four actors, two men, two women. they had them rehearse doing the exact same presentation and you'd be in a mall or a coffee shop or something.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And they'd walk up to you and they had a coffee in their hand and they go, could you hold this for me for a second? And then they look down, they don't wait for you to say yes. And 98% of people take the coffee and they take out their phone, do something. They say, thank you so much. And that's the whole interaction, but they rehearse the same facial expressions, the same movements.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Everybody's the same. They go out and they do this one variable. Half the people, they gave him hot coffee. Half the other people, they gave iced coffee. Fifteen minutes later, somebody comes by with a little checkboard here, and they go, excuse me, I have $20 here. There's no scam here. We have this really important study under a tight timeline.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Would you give us one minute of your time for $20 to just read these three paragraphs of the story and answer these two questions? They read the story, and then the question is, how would you describe the main character of the story? How would you describe it? Well, interestingly, the people that were given hot coffee, 81% said the person was warm and genuine.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
The people that were given iced coffee said the person was cold and uncaring, and it's the exact same story, the exact same ratios, 81% versus 80%, just to give you an idea. All they did was 15 minutes earlier have something that framed them, as you would say, right? So it happens all the time.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
It happens, you know, if they did a study where they took IBM and they took Apple and they did a little creativity test for someone and they did two things. They'd have them look at the IBM logo and then take the test or the Apple logo and then they did their commercials. And a commercial for Apple back in those days, you always think differently, right? Yeah.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
But, you know, Bruce usually does, especially at Christmas, he's like three encores. And so my buddy calls me and says, get your butt over here. He's doing a second encore. I think he might even do three if you get here. Get over here, see the end. So I sprinted the four or five blocks to get in, got in the stadium, couldn't find my buddy. But I got up into some high seats and I'm looking down and
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
22% higher score if they looked at either the Apple logo or the commercial on the exact same test. No other criteria difference, to give you an idea. So you can test so many things in this area. So I get up every morning on my first discipline. You know, I'm not a meditator per se. I don't know anybody good at not having any thoughts. But I thought, I want to prime myself. That's my goal.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So I do a breathing pattern, like a breath of fire type of thing to change my physiology for just two minutes. And then I do three things, and I do it for just 10 minutes. Because my view is, if you don't have 10 minutes for your life, you don't have a life. And I want to prime myself so whenever it comes into this world, I have the best chance of handling it really well.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I'm training my nervous system. What's the emotion I want to train? Gratitude. Why? We all know the two emotions that destroy your relationship, your business, your life, it's fear and anger. Those are two extremes. You can't be grateful and fearful simultaneously. You can't be angry and grateful simultaneously. So what I do is I start my day, I make those changes.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I close my eyes or I look out at the water and I think of three things that I'm grateful for for just a minute each. But I don't think of it like over there, like if you've ever been on a roller coaster and I asked you what it's like, some people remembered it over there. No, I remember it like I'm in the front seat going over the edge because then you get the authentic biochemical changes.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So I'm there and I do two strong things. And usually one simple thing like the wind in my hair or my daughter's smile or something of that nature. So I don't just get wired for own unbelievable things. but that primes that nervous system. And then the second thing I do is I take three minutes and it's kind of like a blessing or a prayer for the people around me, for the people I love.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I start close, I send it out there. And there's been a lot of studies, I'm sure you've read, that Dalai Lama and others have done on compassion for strangers, what it does to your brain. And so I do it every day. And then the last three minutes, I call three to thrive, where I focus for a minute each on something I really want to make happen, But I don't sit there and pray for it, hope for it.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
It's like I give thanks for it as it's done. I see it as done. I experience it as done. I wire my reticular activating system. I can speak in shorthand to you about this. So now it's going to notice anything that relates to that, but it has a joyous feeling to it as well. And I'm done in 10 minutes and I'm ready to rock and roll.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So then, you know, I do my cold plunge and I, you know, I do the parts of my normal daily ritual, but that one I do. And then I'll have like 60 seconds, you know, of joy or 60 seconds of, piece that I'll do in the middle of the day. And I'll just think of one of those things if I want to reactivate it. But that pre-frames me, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
It was back when Clarence was still there and it was just the drive and the energy was incredible. The crowd was so engaged and he was doing Christmas songs and he ends with, you know, Born to Run, you know, and I'm like, I'm so into it. And about three quarters way through the song, I got depressed. I'm like, what the hell? And what it was, was I was like, shit, what I'm doing doesn't matter.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
But then I also have certain beliefs. We all have beliefs that pre-frame you or not. And one of the core beliefs I developed over the years was just that... I think everything happens for a reason. I think there's a higher purpose. I think it's my job to find it. I think that life happens for us, not to us, but it's our job to figure it out.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And a lot of times it feel like something's happening to me. So I'll give you an example. It's like not being fed as a child, you know, I've fed, well, 10 years ago, I decided I'd been feeding people my whole life since I was 17, two people, four, eight. I built a couple million people a year. My foundation fed 2 million. I fed 2 million. And then I was writing this book, Money Master the Game.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I'm interviewing Ray Dalio and Carl Icahn and Warren Buffett and, you know, all these multi-billionaires. And Congress had just cut food stamps, which they call the SNAP program now, by $6 billion. It means every family would have to give up a week's worth of food unless people like you and I showed up. So I called my team and I said, how many people have fed in my lifetime?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And they said 42 million. And I was like, wow, I was thrilled. It wasn't the number I knew. And I said, what if I did that in a year? As much as I've done in my whole life in a year, 50 million. And what if I did 100 million a year? What if I did 100 million a year for 10 years and did a billion meals? And I did it in eight years with Partnership Through Feeding America.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And it's like, when you do that, when you produce a result that seemed impossible, then what's next gets even bigger and even more available, right? It just expands. You're pre-framed. to be able to do even more versus reframe. And so now, because of the war in the Ukraine, most people don't realize it's the breadbasket for Africa. So there's about 11 nations that are on the verge of famine.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You'll never hear about it in the news. No one cares. And then you need fertilizer. 50% of the world's supply, food supply comes from fertilizer. The WF doesn't want you to use it because of the environment, but you need it. And it's in Russia and it's been cut off. So I talked to Governor David Beasley, who's head of the World Food Program. Brilliant guy. Actually, MBS put us together one day.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
He said, you two are feeding the most people I know. I want to put you together. And I said, how big is the problem? And he said, Tony, normally you'd be in a position where maybe there's 8 million people that are on the verge of starvation. He goes, this year it's 350 million. And he goes, and no one's doing anything about it.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I said, so why don't we, how many meals would we need over the next 10 years to make the transition till we get sustainability? He said, you need 10 years. I said, what would it be? And he said, I don't know, Tony, maybe 50, 60, 70 billion meals. I said, let's do a hundred billion meal challenge over the next 10 years. I said, I did a billion. I wasn't a billionaire when I started.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I said, you're going to get blessed by doing these things. I'm sure I can find 99 other people somewhere in the world to do this. And when I went to do it, I was shocked because I had pre-framed myself this to be easy, right? I went to somebody without mentioning names who's a brilliant philanthropist and a beautiful man who's helped me when I did my billion meals.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And he said, well, Tony, how much is that going to cost? I said, well, it cost me about a hundred million bucks over 10 years. You know, you're doing a hundred million meals a year for 10 years. And And this guy's worth about $20 billion. And he said to me, that's beyond my pay grade. And so I had to kind of reevaluate. But because I kept pre-framing myself, this is a must. This is not a should.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
This guy's got 15,000 people here. I got 125 for three days. I'm not making any difference at all. And I was like, and I literally was, we were walking out and people born around, I was pissy inside myself, you know, like, but I was feeling so great before this, but not making this comparison. And of course you're never fair.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
It's not a reframing job. I just came up with a different plan. And I'm really proud to tell you, we did 30 billion meals we just announced in our first two years. And we're on track this year to be at 60 billion. And what seemed like an absolutely impossible task is there. There is another skill besides pre-framing and reframing, deframing. Deframing is when you destroy the frame of reference.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So in business, you know, one of the things you have to know is like, I believe it's my privilege to serve people, but I also believe it's their privilege to be able to learn. That's not an ego thing. It's just like, it's a mutual privilege, meaning I got to earn the right to be able to serve you. And you got to be a reasonable person for me to want to serve you too.
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And I made a change in one of my events is like 20 years ago. And, um, and one of the things I did is there was a 14 day program and the world changed. And so we brought it down to 10 days. I think it was 12 days to 14 in those days. Um, And I had some open days with some stretches and things.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
It was a very intensive program, but I was like, I need to make it tighter so people can commit the time and come. And I figured out how I'm going to add even more value. I'm going to make this even more useful. So I did. And there's this one woman who went crazy and she started attacking me and called my offices up and said, I want my money back.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I'm going to tell everybody else, Tony Robbins is screwing us and everything else. And my team was all freaked out. And I said, no, no, no, no. I said, fire her. I said, what? I said, fire her as a customer. I said, you call her because it's not her first event. She knows how incredible things are. She wouldn't come into this 14-day event, 12-day event.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I said, if she's going to say that, first of all, I'm happy to give her money back. We have a money-back guarantee on everything. So I give her money back and say, we want to give her money back, but want you to know you can never come to an event again because you're no longer one of our customers because you know better. You know Tony always adds 10 times the value, right? Yeah.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Long story short, this lady starts fighting to stay on there. My staff couldn't believe it. Right. Cause he deframed it. You took away the frame of reference. You destroyed it. Right. I said, no, no, no. You don't understand. No, I have a right to come. No, you don't. You know, I have to earn your respect. I got to deliver for you. You got to deliver for me too.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You're not, you're not a customer anymore and you can't come here. The lady, it was in Hawaii. She flew to Hawaii and demanded to see me as the program's going to start. You have to let me in this program, right? I said, if you want to get up and make a public apology for what you've done, I said, that'd be acceptable to me. I said, but you knew better. You just did this to get attention.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I said, so I bought back your seat. And I told you to send us any of your friends that want their seats back. I said, we need the seats. We really did, right? And so that was the end of it. It gave a lesson to everybody on my team. I tried to teach it to business owners. Like, not everybody's your customer. I'm not the right person for everybody. You're the right person for everybody.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
We have unique styles or approaches. And so we're not here to try to please everybody. We're here to try and serve the people that are really interested in being served. So pre-frame, reframe, and deframe as frames or references. But I think pre-frame is the most valuable. And if somebody wants to learn to do the priming, you can go to TonyRobbins.com forward slash priming.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
There's no charge for it. And there's a video I'll guide you through it if you want to try it.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You compare it to somebody else's life that has a totally different path, a totally different experience. We all develop in different stages and different things. We all want different things. But what was ironic, though, the reason I tell you this story is it was like four years later, and there I am in that stadium. And I'm not doing this crappy little two-and-a-half-hour concert, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
That's great. I love it. I love it too. It breaks the pattern.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And that's all it really is, right? Changing the frame is breaking the pattern. Correct. But easier to break the pattern before it starts.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Much easier. And then, by the way, it becomes you train your nervous, your neurons, you're training your nervous system to think that way.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Well, I think in live events we've had, I think it's 15 million people total because, you know, I've done these big ones like, you know, where I do a million people at a time now. Some of these events, it's insane.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I would, I think anything can be done by self-directed learning personally. I just think it accelerates when you create an environment where it maximizes. So, you know, low energy, you get, I have a frame, you may disagree with this massively, you get in your head, you're dead. I think, I want to say, you have to have the head and heart connected, right? It's like, why don't people transform?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
But I think it's more important to realize that self-esteem is earned. It's only earned by you with yourself. You're not going to get self-esteem because everybody praises you. Someone can tell you your whole life that you're brilliant, you're a genius, you're beautiful, you're handsome, and you not believe it.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Because they're in their head about it. They're thinking it through. They think, if I understand this, then it'll just happen. It's absurd. You know, if you're good at something, you've trained it into yourself. You know, I'm fortunate enough to own several sports teams or pieces of sports teams. And I have, you know, championships in all these sports. You know, I want to be an athlete.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So I relived it in a different way. But, you know, the Golden State Warriors are one of the ones I have a piece of. And I've got a chance to work with them. There are championship seasons, work with the players. It's been totally fun. But you look at somebody like Steph Curry. And you see this guy, you know, shoot the ball from almost half court, chomping on the side of his thing.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And he turns, he doesn't even look. He turns around and just waves because he knows it's in already. And it's swish and the crowd goes crazy. And people look at that and go, he's unbelievable. He is. He's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. He's the greatest three-point shooter in history. There's no one like him. But what they don't pay attention to is that isn't like a little gift that
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
He shoots 500 shots every single day, never less than that, seven days a week for more than 15 years. It's a 15-year professional career. He's been doing it since before he was in college. His dad really trained him. So think of that, 3,500 shots a week, 168,000 shots in a year, 2.52 million shots in his 15-year NBA career. So he can make 3,600 shots, not even one-tenth of 1%.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I'm doing 12 hours, and the crowd's going crazy. Screw you, Bruce. And I just like, I know it was just like, you know, it was humorous. You know, you get to look back and say, you know, you judge yourself too soon. And I can tell you a dozen stories like that with me.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I tell people you get rewarded in public for what you practice in private. Your training of your nervous system to do things is what really matters most. And you can't just be in your head. So I believe to answer your question, you know, the reason I still do events is that an event provides, first of all, immersion. you can learn a language a little bit at a time.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And, you know, you ask most people, unless they live in a place where they have to use the language and they learned another language in high school and college, they don't speak it anymore. They don't remember 10 words. But if you wanted to learn Italian and you have the time and money, I just drop you in Italy, drop you in Rome and pick you up four months later. There is a zero question.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You're going to speaking Italian because you're seeing it, feeling it, breathing, doing it. So that's why I do 12 hours of time, four days. And people think it sounds insane, but, It's only insane if you're not enjoying it. And people love it. Even people that get dragged there because we engage all their senses, not just their head.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And so when all your needs are being met simultaneously, time flies. It's like a minute can feel like an eternity when you don't like what's going on. Hours fly by when you're really having great experience. So I believe the environment where we produce that much energy produces it. Now, when COVID happened, give you a good example. Suddenly, I'm used to doing stadiums all over the world.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And the first one I get is a phone call from Gavin Newsom's office in California. I'm about to do a program in San Jose, San Francisco for 14,000 people. And his office calls and says, we're really sorry. You can put 100 people in the stadium. We got 14,000 people. That's not possible. So my whole thing is, OK, screw that. We're going to Vegas. They'll never shut down Vegas.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So I was so hard on myself, but eventually you wake up and saying, it's good to be strong with yourself, but beating yourself up just lowers your energy. And when your energy gets lower, you produce less, right? And you don't have the same level of joy. You don't have the impact that you want to have, nor do you have the excitement that you really want to have.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
10 days outside of Vegas after moving 14,000 people to go there, they shut down Vegas. So I'm like, screw it. We're going to Texas, their own country. The governor says he won't melt. He's not going to bend, you know. I got a friend in Houston that has a big church there, 14,000 people. Perfect. We rent the place. Two weeks out, they shut down there. I'll do it in movie theaters.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
1,400 movie theaters. We'll do this where, you know, we'll put 10 people in every movie theater. That was what they limited us to. But they'll have a big screen. They'll have great sound. And they'll have some interaction. We're going to make this work. They shut down the movie theaters.
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So I built the studio and I did something I wouldn't have done without necessity, which was like, I need to reach people where they are right now. Cause I don't know how long they're going to be stuck at home. This goes way beyond business. I got plenty of companies, plenty of money, but it's like, how do I serve in this time? And so I was like, okay, I'm going to,
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I'm going to do a seminar where there's no money involved because what's in the way? Money, travel, because most of the people usually fly to another country to see me and that kind of thing. And even time, I want to give them immersion, but not enough that it's overwhelming to them. And so I set up this program.
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We're going to do three days, three and a half hours, three hours each day, kind of like going to a movie, but one that changes your life. And let's invite people from all over the world. And the first one we had 383,000 people for instead of 15 or 20,000 people for a seminar. And then the second one was 600. So last year was almost one and a half million people. And I'm doing one again this year.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I'm super excited about it. It's one of the reasons I wanted to do your podcast. I want to get the word out because I know a lot of young men in your audience that are looking to create a meaningful life, take things to another level. And they may not know if this is worthwhile or not, but they can come and they can do it from wherever they are. They can do it from their office or home.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
They can do it with a friend. There's no charge for it. It's not partially free. It's totally free. But those stories and examples that come out of it, when people get an environment like that, I give an example of just fun one because I saw him the other day. So a gentleman named Matt, who never would have made it to one of my seminars. Why? He's in bed. He weighs over 700 pounds. He's on oxygen.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
He can't leave the bed, even go to the bathroom. He does it through tubes, right? Doctor says he'll never be off oxygen as long as he lives, but we're using zoom. And so I'm interacting with people live all over the earth. And the one thing I asked for is I don't ask for money, but I asked you to do an assignment each night and put it on Facebook.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And then I'm up all night watching all these because it's so compelling to see how people's lives are changing. So I saw this guy. So I brought him on the next day. He's in the bed. He's watching on the screen because it's free and he doesn't have to go anywhere. He can do it. Might as well make use of it. He got so inspired. He says, I want to get out of this bed. Doctor says, I can't do this.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So I look at it as something that it's worth earning your own self-esteem, but it's really not the secret. The secret is find something else you obsess about more than yourself, and you'll have a level of energy that will compel you over the long term.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I said, well, let's chunk it. You know, what are the first steps? First, we got to get some upper body strength. And I said, what do you got nearby? And he had like this like thing you hang coats on. So I said, we're going to start with that. Right. So he's in bed doing this little thing. And I said, I'll tell you what we're going to do. I said,
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You're going to sit down, you're looking for the timeline. But I said, if you can get this done in the next four months where you can get out of bed, go to the bathroom, make it into a car. I said, I'll fly you to my event. We'll walk on fire together. We'll have this experience. He's lost now over 300 pounds. 325 was the latest number. He's inspired everybody in the community that's there.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
He drives a car now. He fell in love with a lady. And so I sent him my resort in Fiji so he could go celebrate and everything else. He's got a completely different life. He would have never done that in a million years. So it's my way of saying, yes, I can bring the event to you, which I didn't believe before. I didn't believe I could do that.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
But now we'll start at 10 a.m., let's say, in Florida here to do, let's say, a four-day seminar that I'm going to do. And we have people from 193 countries participating, and we got 30,000 people instead of 10 or 15 or 20,000 participating. And it's already midnight at Sydney, Australia, and I go 13 hours.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So they're going to be up from midnight to one in the afternoon for four days, and we lose 3% of the people. So I found that that environment can work as well because we've learned how to, you know, when people go to a ball game and they get shown on the screen, we know how to keep everybody so engaged. But I also get to see them, Chris, in their home how they live.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You know, I get to see them with their dog and with their kid. I watch the sunrise and set while I'm still speaking online. and what their level of focus is and where they go. And I can call them and say, John, what are you doing right there? I don't know the person's name in a live seminar, right? The guy jumps up, you know, and I have these giant screens.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I built this 50 foot high building with 20 foot high LED screens, 0.67, highest resolution in the world. I could see every pimple, every move, everything on you. So that environment is more powerful to me than just self-directed, but Some people are self-directed. They say, screw you. I don't need that shit. And I do it on my own. I believe that too.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So a book or a tape or something is there, but I find it accelerates the experience massively because it's also, it's like going to, you know, a game and there's a thousand people in the audience. So there's, you know, 50,000. I mean, there's emotions are contagious, right? Somebody yawns, oh, don't do that. You start to yawn, right? Or somebody laughs and you start to laugh.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So I love using that dynamic as an accelerator.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Well, a couple of days in advance, I'm about to do a six-day program right now for business owners from all over the world. I start to jot down my notes of what are some of the things I'm most passionate about, beliefs I have right now that are currently alive in me. You know, I have 114 companies now. It's pretty wild. We do $9 billion in business. I have no business background.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I just learned from brilliant people. And I learned the patterns, you know, that make things work. So I think what are the most important ones I'm learning, experiencing now that I want to bring? I review what I know fundamentally people need to know in those areas. Then I start reading different articles and start loading myself up with some other entrepreneurs' recent thoughts.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And then I'm doing all my physical training, of course, which is very, very intense, right? So that I'm ready to go 12 hours a day, 13 hours a day on stage. And then the morning of, I do my priming.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
All that. And then what I do is I get up, I have a little mind map of my outcomes. I'm not driven like a script. I have certain fundamentals that you learn to speak and you speak them well and you know the impact it's going to have. But they're all like deposits in the bank of your life so that when something comes up, you can pull from those.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
But then there's all the things that happen spontaneously that make it fun. So I'll lay out what I think the sequence of what I'm going to do is. And then you get in the room and you feel people and that all changes. But my last thing that I do is quite honestly just a prayer. It's like, use me, Lord. I make this physical ritual of I shift my body pretty radically and I go into this state. Use me.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Yeah. Well, I'm going to be 65 in a few weeks. I have a little perspective on this. It doesn't mean it's the right perspective. But I think when I began, I began with a fuel, which was like, I'm going to show them. I had four fathers growing up. It's a pretty rough background. My mom was a very intense character. A huge part of who I am, I owe to her because she challenged me so strongly.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And then I get up on stage and... And then I have this plan and the plan goes out the window. I often work till two in the morning with my team laying out what we're going to do. And now they all know that's just entertainment. But I'll use a lot of it, but maybe not in that syntax because I feel it. And also that makes it art.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I'd be bored out of my mind if it was exactly the same every single time.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And that never really happens that way.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I think that that's- But it awakens your nervous system, I think, to prepare. I could get up there at this point with my pinky and not prepare at all. But when people ask my wife, what's something about Tony that- nobody understands. And it's like, nobody understands how intensely he prepares. Cause I absorb. And like, I read people's forms, a thousand of them.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You know, I'm crazy, you know, because I know I'm not going to remember their name and everything else, but I'll remember the pattern. And when the pattern shows up with somebody, I'll know that pattern is an important pattern for multiple people in the room and I'll address it in a different way each time. But it makes it art when it's different. But, you know, my wife is a different approach.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I admire her approach. I trust in God after I've done all the work. She just trusts in God and gets up and does it. I feel if I work my ass off, now I've done my part. Okay, now come through me. Let's do this. And it tends to float.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Yeah, I really believe it. But you got to dig for it.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
If you want freedom, if you value freedom, you can't possibly have it as long as you played the victim role. And even if you were physically victimized, and my mom, I don't look at it that way. She was physically intense, and you could call it abusive. I prefer not to use that language because that also puts it in that place.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I never even told anybody about that experience until maybe 15 years ago. I was now in New York, and I was with this group of people.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
young african-american and some hispanic kids all had single mothers all from really troubled backgrounds and i started talking to them about various things and i'm trying to get across that biography is not destiny i was giving different examples of people but i could just see him i could just mind read look at this big tall white guy and he's wealthy and easy for him right so i i
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
told them everything, things I never told anybody. And every single one of them was crying their eyes out. I was crying too. But then I got them to see that like, none of that, none of that is, makes you who you are. None of that controls where you are in your life. I was like, if my mom had been the mother I'd hope she'd be, I would not be the man I'm proud to be.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So, and she did many beautiful things, but You know, if I was a well-fed kid, would I be providing 30 billion meals for people? Would I work this hard to feed people that I'll never meet and never know and will never say thank you to me? I'm not looking for it. No. I mean, I'd love to believe I do. I'm a good person. You're a good person. But I wouldn't have had that hunger without that.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So that's where that belief comes from. That's like, life has been happening for me. I don't know if you can relate to this in my bed as you could. Maybe your viewers or listeners can. It's like, have you ever had something happen in your life that was horrible? I mean, it was painful. You'd never want to go through it again in a million years.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I became a practical psychologist to deal with things. Really loving woman, but when she mixed alcohol with prescription drugs, she was very violent. And I had to protect my younger brother, younger sister. So... I have these experiences early on that were so painful. And then she picked my fourth father out of the house. She's a fairly powerful woman. He went back east.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You wouldn't want anybody else to go through it that you care about. But after five or 10 years, you look back and you say, I never want to go through it again, but now I see the wisdom in it. It's like it made me care so much more. It made me so much stronger. It made something in me more. I mean, I'm sure you can relate to that, can't you?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I put them together. And when you put them together, all you have left is the truth. And the truth is it had a higher purpose. It was meant to be. Now, I don't believe like everything's meant to be. I think situations are meant to be. And then it's our job to choose how we're going to use them or be used by them. Right. I think that's the difference.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
But I think I don't, I don't, there's nothing to forgive. I know there's nothing like people say this, but you have so much to forgive. Yeah. F that and forgive. There's nothing to forgive. I mean, it's like if I get to a deeper truth, a deeper spiritual truth, a soulful truth, it's all like soul contracts. Because we're all here for something more than ourselves.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And it's not until you realize that that you stop the childhood thing of forgiveness. I need to forgive people or I need to, you know, maybe you want to think about what you want a lot of the people to, you want them to forgive you for, you know, or you can make an apology because we all screw up. We all do stupid things. We all do things we're not proud of at different times.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
He was the one who I loved the most. And then she chased me out of the house with a knife on Christmas Eve. And I know she wasn't going to kill me, but I wasn't going back in that place. And I remember coming out of the beginning, it was anger that drove me. I'm just going to show you type of thing. But that fuel doesn't last. And then the next fuel that people tend to use is I got to succeed.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
The secret is, do you do something about it or do you just ruminate or beat yourself up or pretend it isn't that?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Some of that's true. I think you're right about that. But I also think it can be accelerated by who you spend time with. I've had the great privilege of having some great mentors. They're all 18 to 20 years my senior, so... You know, some of my new, when I was, you know, 20 and they were 40 and now they're 80 and then, you know, 82, 83, 84, and I'm going to be 65.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
No, but I mean, because they give me a look at the pathway of life. You know, we're not all the same by any stretch, but there are certain fundamental things you go through. I remember some of them would tell me things, you know, like when you're 40, you're going to think this or feel this. I was like, you know, read between the lines. Shut up. You know, you're full of it.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You know what she's talking about. But there were certain things that turned out to be really true. So some of those you experience. But then once you've experienced enough of them, you don't have to wait to experience everything. You can start to project. Wait a second here. There's some real deeper truth here. And one of those, I think, is it's not hard.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I'd invite you to consider you don't have to hold both. The holding both is like the piece of being afraid that if I really enjoy myself, I won't have the same level of drive. Once you're a fucking achiever, the drive is never going to leave you. It's just a matter of now you can do it more elegantly if you choose to.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Someone can tell you you're a piece of crap and you're never going to become anything, and there's a part of you that can say, I'll show you, as many people have, and then they develop drive out of it, right? So it's really, self-esteem comes from doing incredibly difficult things where you know you pushed yourself. It's not virtue signaling. It's not telling people about it.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
But there's a little fear underneath that that's driving them, which is like, what if I don't? Versus a knowing, you know, it's like one of my original mentors, Jim Rohn, used to have this phrase, used to said, you know, Tony, don't worry about it. If you give your all every day, your gifts will make room for you. And it's like having a knowingness that things are going to be fine.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I was the most peaceful, most happy stage of my life by far. I look at things in terms of seasons. I remember in early 90s, I interviewed, I don't know if you've read The Fourth Turning. Did you read that book by chance? No. Oh my gosh, please read it. I think you'll find it really valuable. I was working, I was coaching President Clinton in those days. I also coached Gingrich.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I was on both sides of the aisle because I'm an independent, right? So I want to help both sides. So I left literally the president and he had this book. And I was reading, it was a big thick book. What's the other one they have? It's basically 500 years of American history, Anglo-American history. And it was written by the same guys that wrote The Fourth Turning.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I asked him about it and he told me a little bit about the patterns of generations and how they work. I was fascinated how it shapes history. I go to Gingrich, who's a historian, and the same book is there. And so I grabbed the book and then The Fourth Turning came out a little bit after that. It was one of those throwaway books, you know, at a discount.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I love those books, you know, because they're contrarian. And I picked it up. It wasn't popular and I read it. And it's a book that basically describes that history has patterns and seasons to it, just like everything has seasons. So I look at it this way, maybe a simple way to explain it is, I have five kids and five grandkids.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I have a 50-year-old daughter and I have about to be a four-year-old daughter in a couple months. So I have quite an extreme group. And I think about my youngest daughter or my grandkids, and even for my kids, but most of them are adults now. And I think the world is changing so much. Nanotechnology, obviously, algorithms, AI, all the things that are coming, robotics,
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
the change, we're at the base of unbelievable transformation. We're going to see more change in the next five to 10 years than in the history of humanity. And that's not an exaggeration. Well, there's going to be a huge number of jobs that are disrupted from that. And listen, 200 years ago, 85% of America was a farmer. Now it's 4% and we feed the whole world because of technology.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
But that happened over a long period of time. We're going to see changes like... self-driving cars. There's several cities where they're operating right now, right? Ubers and so forth. How long is it going to take before every truck and every taxi will be there? Well, that means every Uber driver, every taxi driver, who's going to hire a truck driver who can work eight hours a day?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You got to pay for the healthcare. And they complain and And crash sometimes. And crash, where you're going to have a 24-hour day that better insurance and you get to depreciate the asset. I mean, these jobs are going away. That's 8 million jobs in America. That's as many jobs as we lost in 2008 when the crash just happened. And no one's preparing for it. So I remember talking to Obama about it.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
It's like, you know, this is coming, you know. He goes, well, Tony, you know, I said, has anybody got a plan? Are we going to educate these people? This is going to get social disruption, right? He says, well, we've talked about, you know, the payments, what's it called, UBI. And I said, yeah, but the UBI, it'll never be enough money because once they adjust to it, it'll be more.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And then there's the next level, which is you start to know who you are and you're not trying to prove it to yourself or other people. And you just want to help. You just want to do things. And so now it's the difference between what I would call push motivation and pull, right? Push is I'm going to make this happen. And it takes tremendous willpower. And I know you have plenty of willpower.
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And UBI doesn't give anybody meaning.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Well, you can predict that. You don't have to be a brilliant scientist to figure that, right? A decade ago, a bit of human intuition would have taught you that. Yeah. But the point is, they said, what's being done? He goes, well, we think it's going to take a lot longer. It'll be fine. It's not. So how do you arm yourself? Or your kids for a world of such change. You have to learn rapidly.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And so you need three skills. You need skill number one to be able to really recognize patterns. You're very good at that. I'm not throwing stuff your way. I watched a couple things you're doing. And you do your homework and you recognize patterns. You utilize them. You recognize them in yourself, which is one of the things I respect even more. And you use that to improve yourself, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
But when people are fearful, when they have anxiety, it's almost always because they don't recognize the patterns that are happening. Because if you recognize the patterns, things are very predictable. What looks like chaos is just because it's not been a pattern you've seen before. Like if you look at history as an example, he's like, this has never happened.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You know, you hear people talk about, we've never been this divided as a country and all this stuff. It's such bullshit.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Yeah, there was a civil war, but there's a little sheet I brought down. Do you have that little sheet? Can I borrow this? I just read you this because I thought it's entertaining. I showed this in an event the other day. This is two placards from a photograph of them or reconstruction of them from John Adams versus Thomas Jefferson. They're running for president, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So let's see how divided they were. This placard says, if you elect Thomas Jefferson, murder, robbery, rape, incest, and adultery will be practiced throughout the land. Are you prepared to see your dwellings in flames, your female chastity violated, or your children writhing on the pike? This is what Adams wrote about Jefferson. It makes like Trump's Hitler sound pretty kind.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
John Adams says, or excuse me, Jefferson says about John Adams in the placard, it says, John Adams is busy importing mistresses from Europe or trying to marry one of his sons to the daughter of King George. He's a hideous, hermaphrodite character with neither the force or firmness of a man nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman. These are our founding fathers, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So it's like, you're so full of shit. Like when you say this has never happened before, it hasn't happened in your lifetime. Because the cycle, if you study a thousand years of Roman history, which I've done, 500 years of Anglo-American history. there's patterns that happen about every roughly 20 years. And the patterns are predictable. So think about this. This is why you want to learn this.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
If you can recognize patterns, the fear disappears. Second skill, use the pattern. When you know what the pattern is and you use it, now you have mastery of something. Now you can do better than most people in that area. So, you know, I interview all these people, the best investors in the world, they're all different, but I recognize the patterns that are in common.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And when I'm done, my billionaire clients love it. And the average person can learn from it because the patterns are fundamental, right? If I want to learn the piano in the beginning, I'd have to learn probably somebody else's patterns that have figured it out. That's how I learn.
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I do as well. But there's a limit to willpower. But there's no limit to pull, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
But if I use those patterns over and over again, I'll eventually get to where I can do the third skill, which is pattern creation. Now you have an amazing life. Now you're not managing your circumstances. You're the creator of your life. But you have to first recognize them so you're not in fear. And then here's an example.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
When did humanity transform from a fearful place as its primary base where we were hunter-gatherers, right? Where literally you had to move from place to place and you didn't know if you're going to eat or survive. What changed that to be a live in a community and grow a community, a city, a state, a country? One pattern recognition. Seasons. Seasons.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
The day that we figured out that if I do the right thing at the wrong time, I get nothing. But if I plan it this specific time in the spring, and if I know I got to protect it during the hot summer, going to reap in the fall. And if I hang on to some of that, I'll make it through the next winter. That changed humanity completely. One recognition.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
pull is when there's something magnificent that you want to serve something that you're you've got an obsession for to create or to do or make happen and that doesn't it you know you don't lose that energy you don't lose those components and you're able to laugh and enjoy along the way as opposed to oh by my god you know if i don't keep doing this and i used to believe that too it's like i gotta be so intense every moment um and then my wife's been a huge help in that also you know i've
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And most of us don't have that recognition of the season. So here's a season for you and your audience to consider. What season are you in right now? Because human life has four seasons, if we want to call it that. As an oversimplification, zero to 21 is springtime. What do you know about springtime? Is it hard to grow during springtime? Things grow automatically in springtime.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
If you start a business in springtime, you're going to think you're the business genius. No, you're just in springtime. Everybody's optimistic. Things grow easily. Goes, goes, goes. It's an overall theme. It lasts about 17 to 20 years on average. And then we exhaust that emotion. It's like... Even good emotions get exhausted. You ever smile so much your face hurt, right?
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So it's like you need variety. So then we go into a different season. We go into the summer, which tests you. It's hard. It's more difficult. And then if you make it through that time, you get to reap. And if you make it through that time, you get to be tested again. So it's always, you know, we get easy times and tough times. Why is that important? Well, zero to 21 is your springtime.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Some of us had to go work at seven or eight years old, but we're still protected. If there's a war, you didn't go to war, right? Someone fed you most of the time. You're primarily being poured into education, information. So it's a pretty easy time. Then you go 21, 22 to 42. That's your summer. That's your testing period. And I think that's the period that you're coming to the end of.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And that testing period, by the way, all the studies show it's the most unhappy time in most people's life because you start out feeling you're invincible. You learned all this stuff and you're like, you know, I don't know if I believe all this crap I was taught. I'm going to go, I'm going to do this myself.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I'm going to be president of the United States, a multi-billionaire and have a hundred relationships simultaneously and everyone's going to be happy. And you believe this shit, right? Then by the time you're 35, you're like, oh shit, man, one relationship I'm a hard time with. And oh my God, I got divorced or, oh my God, I'm not present. And oh, yeah. So you're not so invincible. It humbles you.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
but it also makes you grow. Because that stage of summer, you're basically the soldier of society. In fact, if we go to war, that's who goes to war. 22 to 42, a little bit younger, you get the frame. And then if you're in business, you're the soldier. But if you're growing in those first two seasons, then you're going to enter your power phase. And your power phase is basically 43 to 63.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And again, some people get there at 36. Some people get there at some other time, but you get the range. And in that range, it's like you can do more with your pinky and get it done. Then I'm sure you've experienced this in your life, mine too. Then when I work 22 hours a day, and I still work 22 hours a day, but now I run 114 companies, not two, you know?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And I can do $9 billion, not $100 million. It's a different game. And it's very rewarding, and it's when you really enter your power as a person. If you worked hard in the spring and the summer, then you reap in the fall. If you didn't, you weep in the fall, right? then eventually I can tell you this cause I'm there now and I never would have believed it.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So I want to plant the seed, the possibility. And my friends, I'm going to say out there who are also young men, I think that's mostly your audience. What I could see who are driven and hungry and want to be their best selves and don't want to settle. Um,
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
That stage is the winter time is basically say 63, 64 to 84 to 104 to 120 if you have that privilege of living that long, the oldest living humans. And it's a stage where it is incredibly peaceful. If you've done the job in the beginning, because you know who you are, you're no longer trying to prove it to yourself.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You're no longer hanging on to the duality you described earlier and you don't give a shit. It's like, you know, it's like Aristotle said, you know, how do you not be criticized? Say nothing, do nothing, be nothing. Right. And you're like, F that, right? You know, I know who the hell I am. And it's like, I'd love to serve everybody. It's not going to be right for everybody. I'm totally fine.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I remember when I met her, I was like, I'm a serious mofo. I want to change the world. I work 20-hour days on stuff. I want to laugh more. Some days I wish I hadn't said that to her because she's so crazy. But she's one of the great gifts of my life. And I surround myself with so many brilliant and funny people that my life has the joy and the achievement.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
But you're not trying to prove it. All you really want to do is serve. So I used to have these giant mission statements, change the world, all these things. And I do all those things. But now it's like my mission statement is how can I help? You know, and I get calls every day of my life.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Somebody's got cancer or tumors or whatever because, you know, I've got so much expertise in there because I've interviewed the best on earth, 150 of them. Or someone comes to me with a business thing or something, a relationship, or it's an athlete. And so along with what I do formally and what I do with my businesses, I have all this that's happening.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And then I have my family and, you know, you have friendships that – are 40 years old, 45 years old, people you've done business with for 30 years, if you've done it right. And you love them and they love you. So when you love at that stage, you love who you're with, you love what you get to do, you start to actually love yourself a little bit.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And when I say love yourself, meaning like you're kinder to yourself because it's like you're not in that game of still trying to prove it. So if I could magically take that stage and bring it to someone in their 20s, I would do so.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So what I try to do instead is paint them a picture of what the path might look like and that they, being an overachiever, could anticipate the next path and maybe perhaps spend less time in the struggling phase if they know what's coming. Anticipation as opposed to reaction in that area.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
Well, there's an event coming up that I do once a year. I told you about when COVID happened and I created this new way of doing what we do. We still do live events, obviously. But once a year, I now do that for free. I do it for three days. So I'm doing my next one January 30th, 31st and February 1st. It's about three hours a day.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So like I said, think of it like going to a movie once a day for three days, but it's your life. And instead of making New Year's resolutions that no one follows through on, it's really about creating a path and a plan and some of that transformation we're talking about. And it's really powerful. So there's no charge. It's not partially free. It's free.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So you can go to timetorisesummit.com, timetorisesummit.com, get yourself enrolled. If you do it at the office, you can do it with some friends or at home. And I'd love to be able to serve them and see it happens. And if they want to know about other seminars and things, we're on social media under Tony Robbins or TonyRobbins.com.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I look forward to it. Thank you very much.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
It's what you know inside your soul is true. And the more you do things that are incredibly difficult, and especially things that are meaningful, meaning they're not just about yourself, the higher that esteem would be. I think the most important thing for self-esteem is to find something you care about more than yourself. As long as you're in your own head, the
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
That's true. It's an art. It's chemistry, right? And you don't get it right in the beginning. And, you know, it takes time and you have to have the intention to want both. I remember when I met my trainer, Billy, years ago, he was one of my dearest friends. And he's brilliant. And he said, what do you really want out of your training?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
He goes, because what I find is I don't, you know, I don't even need me. He goes, you know, no one needs to push you. I got to push you back. I got to stop you from going that hard. He goes, I said, no, I'm not looking for motivation. I said, I want to be specific. I want to produce very precise results. But I said, at this point, I think I've been working out like a crazy person.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I suppress my oxygen. I do. You saw what I do. It's just ridiculous. I'm a biohacker, right? I have to be, I got to go on stage and do 12 to 13 hours and hold 13, 14, 15, 20,000 people's attention for four days. Right. When they won't sit for a three hour movie, somebody spent $300 million on, you know, it takes a level of energy.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I'm not just standing there talking, I'm running up the side, I'm doing these things. So I said, I don't want to give up any of that. I need that power in me to be able to produce. But I said, I want to have fun. He says, what does that look like? And I said, well, I don't know. I think, you know, when I was a kid, I used to play racquetball.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I said, maybe for the aerobic instead of just running, maybe we'll do something that's fun to do. And he goes, that's great. Let's do it. So we called around no racquetball courts anywhere, but squash. Do you play squash? Yep. Yeah. So you can appreciate squash is awesome and it's more strategic and how a lot better exercise than, you know, racquetball is.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So I got into playing squash and it was like, wow, it added a whole nother dimension. And then that led to, you know, you know, at this stage, if I go someplace and I'm going to be kind, which I want to be, You know, it's not a 20 minute drive and 20 minute back. It's 20 minutes, you know, in and out. I'm sure, you know, pictures and, you know, just connecting with people and taking care of them.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And so, man, I don't have time for this. So that's how this happened down here.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So it was like, you know, I came here and said, we're going to build this, but it's just like, so I built this whole place for fun. I mean, if you came here, you probably came by slide, I assume.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
So when we come to build this place, I said, the guy's saying to me, you've got 25,000 square feet. You've used up all the space. Where are you going to do this? I said, down here. And he goes, what do you mean down here? I said, below the surface. He goes, no, no, no. The ocean's here. The intercoastal's here. You're below the water table. I said, well, have you ever been to Scripps Oceanography?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You ever been to the Atlantis Hotel? He said, yeah. I said, that's what we're going to do. He's like, oh, it can't be done. I said, what do you mean it can't be done? Other people have done it. He goes, well, you never get approved. I said, yeah. The mayor here, we're good friends. I'm sure people in community like it. We'll get approved. And so it leads to a place of fun.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
We're sitting in the place of fun. You know, we've got 7,000 square feet below the surface. No one knows it's here. It's below the water. We built like a submarine around the outside of this. And so we got squash courts and my bowling alley and all this stuff, my kids and my grandkids, and it's the play area. So I think it's also important to have environments that call out the play. Yeah.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
the nature of the mind is reductionism, right? Good, bad, right, wrong, all those types of things. Of course, life is much more, many different hues than that.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
and environments that are convenient to pull out the play you know you can live by the ocean i used to live on the hill in del mar california almost never went to the beach except when friends came i want to take them there when you live on the beach i'm on the beach every day you know it's there so it's like you can engineer your life to have more happiness but i think the real challenge is thinking so hardly about being taken seriously just represents your fears right it's like
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I think spiritual development, when people talk about spiritual, not religious development, spiritual development is the level of comfort you can have with just being your real self. And I think that's not an easy task because we all are trying to be something, but we already are the something we're trying to be.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
That doesn't mean you can't be better, but it's like accepting and appreciating what you really are. And instead of projecting something else, takes a lot of pain out of your body, takes a lot of wasted energy out. It gets a lot of fears to just disappear. And I don't have an easy path for that. I think it's the hero's journey. You know, what is it? Your life is ordinary and everything seems fine.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And then something hits you and it's the call to adventure. It doesn't feel like a call. It feels like, somebody in your family's got cancer or it feels like, you know, COVID and somebody shut down your business, you know, or, you know, some issue that's happening in your relationship with your kids. But if you take the call and you go on the journey, you're going to meet some new friends.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And so when you find something you care about, whether it's your kids or whether it's something, your job, your career, whether it's a mission you have, that's something you want to bring to the world, nonprofit, it doesn't matter what it is.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You're going to find some new mentors. You're going to, You know, you're going to battle with internal things within you and external things. But if you keep going, you're going to eventually slay your dragons and you come out in the hero of your own life and you have something to share that isn't bullshit. It's not something you read somewhere. It's something you've lived.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
And everybody can feel you've lived it because it's a different level of ownership, you know? And then, by the way, as soon as you do that, it happens again. You're called on another journey. You have a new level of challenge that you need to go on. It just never ends, but it makes life really, really beautiful.
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
If you find something you care about more than you, you won't be thinking about yourself all the time and all your bullshit self-esteem shit just goes out the window. I mean, it's just, when I hear it, it's just so mamby-pamby B.S. You can have crappy self-esteem and achieve a hell of a lot. Now, the real question is, what do you want?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
I think it's important to realize wherever focus goes, energy flows. It's corny, but it's true, right? In fact, maybe an easier way of saying it is we don't experience life. None of us do. We experience the life we focus on. So in any moment, what's wrong is always available. So is what's right. So it's not about being positive. It's about being intelligent, right?
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#889 - Tony Robbins - How To Build An Extraordinary Life
You know, when you're in a totally negative state and the world's going to end and there are people like believing that in the next 12 years, the entire environment's going to collapse and they won't have a child. You know, you got to look at the impact of what you're believing. And you got to look at and say, you know, where's my focus going? I can always be upset about something.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
A little bit over and God, we've, we've had a great ride and everything that we've said, we've set out to fulfill. We fulfilled, you know, we have a beautiful house. We have two baby boys. Um, but a majority of it started about four years ago is when I first had my, my first boy.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
Yes. There you go. There you go. Is this a little bit better now? Yeah, much. And, um, and we, we had COVID had just hit. We had just gotten our first house and, um, you know, I was working, I was working quite a bit. And, um, my, my wife had basically just told me, you know, Hey, you're, you're working so much, you know, like I'm telling you, I need these things.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
Hey, she was telling me, you know, I need you to be here more. I'm stressing. Um, you know, I want to go back to work, but I also don't want to be away from the baby. Um, and you know, like what, what can we do? How can we, how can we make this better? And not only that, but you know, I kind of told her instead of,
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
trying to fulfill those needs, I, I ended up reciprocating my frustration in my line of work at the time and saying, you know, I, I want out as well. Right. And, um, and so that caused her to kind of go into this, this, this emotional wreck, this emotional hurdle of, you know, like, we're not trying to fix this, you know, we're, we're both on the same boat and, um,
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
And I really wasn't communicating. I was living by actions rather than communication. And so that caused a little bit of turmoil in our relationship in that time frame. And that's where it started. We worked on it throughout the course, but that's where a lot of it has stemmed from throughout the years from then on.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
Um, you know, any, any, any little thing, any little hurdle that we come across, any little objection or, um, you know, brings her back into that state of, you know, why am I still continuing this? You know, like I'm putting her back into a hole. Um, you know, and I think a lot of it has just been my communication hasn't been the best.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
I've been trying to figure out how to, how to dive into these deeper conversations because I'm afraid that when I, when we have had these conversations, um, I haven't had any answers for her. And that scares me as well.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
Definitely. And she's told me this, and to be candid, about two years after that first incident, You know, she delivered it to me straight on and said this wasn't working. And and so, you know, we separated. We separated for about three months, still live together because we still had our babies.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
But, you know, after about three months of trying to fix and trying to work our way back to one another, I also found out that she was kind of having an I would say an emotional affair with, you know, with someone else. Um, and, and in my head, I had tied it back to, you know, this was the cause of it. This was the cause of our separation. And, um, and, and I know that wasn't the case, right?
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
You know, she said, you know, why, why did it take this situation to happen for you to communicate your feelings?
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
She was still working, but because COVID had hit, she was technically off. Working from home? No, not working from home, but wasn't slated to go back for about six months.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
Yeah. I don't know that. And that's where, that's where I've fallen back because, you know, she's definitely, she's told me that of course, you know, she, she wants to trust me again. You know, we've worked on, and the fact that we've worked on quite a bit of these things along the way.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
No, no. I mean, that, that, that was, that was the initial start. No, I've, I've never cheated on her, but, but there was a time where last year, uh, I, I, in my job, I, I work sales. And so there was an event that I had wanted to take my wife to, and it was for a client event.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
And, um, and, and I, you know, when she had gotten home, she was working a little bit late, she had gone home and I was already ready. I was like, you're going to come with me. And, um, and she said, no, you should just go alone. Um, and so, you know, in my head, I was like, okay, I'm just going to go. And, um, and I was there for about maybe an hour. Um, and then I came back and, um, and, um,
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
And I was just there meeting with a client, meeting with, I think, a few co-workers that were potentially going to go, but they never did. And I came back home. My wife had seen a text on my phone from one of my other co-workers from some time prior to that of me saying something like, Hey, I'm here waiting for you. I'm going to get down. And this is for a whole separate company luncheon event.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
How can I get my wife to, you know, to love me and trust me again? Why doesn't she trust you? I think a lot of it's just been my communication hasn't been the best. To be candid, about two years after that first incident, you know, she delivered it to me straight on and said this wasn't working.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
But she kind of, it tailored back into that, like, what is going on, right? Is this why, you know, you wanted to go to this event but didn't want me to go?
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
And I think for me, the biggest reason was within one of those texts, I deleted one of them just because I felt like it came off as like they had said something about like, oh, I appreciate you and something. And I said, I don't want this in my phone because my wife reads it. She's going to get this misconception.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
Hey, good morning, Dr. John. This is a surreal moment for me, but a pleasure.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
A hundred percent. And that's why I think that the biggest, the biggest thing that she has stated to me, and I will never not say that, you know, she hasn't reciprocated her needs. It's been about, you know, a communication, you know, this is what I need from you in intimacy. This is what I need from you in communication.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
And, you know, I, and I, I've been living through actions rather than, you know, communicating those things, you know, which she said, I need you to be more present. I need you to, you know, make home feel like home.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
You know, there's times where she stated where she'll come home and she feels like she gets a negative, like a cold shoulder from me. Like I'm giving her a glare from the side.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
So, you know, I want to preface this by saying that my wife's a big fan of your show. She actually got me into it, to be candid, maybe a little bit about a month Two months ago, you know, we've just been talking about a lot of things. And, you know, I feel like I've been watching you forever, though. And just seeking answers here and there as far as kind of better our relationship.
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My Wife Is Unhappy No Matter What I Do
But I'd reached out, you know, and my question just overall is, you know, how do I... how can I get my wife to love me and trust me again? There's been a couple of things that have played into this factor, but that's the overall premise. Why doesn't she trust you? It started about four years ago. Prior to that, let me just say this. I met my honey about maybe about eight years ago, right?
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How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
They know how to use them. And then the third level is when you really begin to be a person who creates patterns. So it's like if you want to play the piano, most of us first learn by playing someone else's pattern, someone who was really good that figured it out, right? We look at their pattern, we study their pattern, then we learn to use it, their pattern.
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How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Eventually, if you played enough other people's music, you create your own. That's what's happened in my life with all the skills I have. I'm standing on the shoulders, just like I'm sure you are, of all these great thinkers before us, but also then you bring your own music to it at that stage, right? When you start creating patterns, you have a tremendous amount of freedom in your life.
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How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
So when I look at life and say, how is life and how people are going to do, I don't get overreactive to what happens in a single business. I have 114 companies. Now we do $8 billion in business. I had no business background, but I studied patterns and they're easy to study patterns in business and patterns of people.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
What happens is there's no fear when you recognize this, but look at humanity even just for a second. When did humanity go from living in fear of survival to being able to stay in one place and build a community and live the way we live today with communities and cities and states and countries? Well, it came from one pattern recognition that we figured out to use, and it was the seasons.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Before that, we were hunter-gatherers running around trying, hoping we could find enough food and chasing the next place to go. That all changed when we realized there is the right time to plant. If you plant in the winter, I don't care how hard you work, you're not going to reap. It's not going to work. There's one season, and this is how it works.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And then you've got to defend it during the summer, and then you've got to reap in the fall, and you've got to save some for the winter, right? Well, when we learned that, humanity exploded. Now we run the planet. For good or bad, we run the planet. Well, similarly, there's a pattern in people's life. So all those listening right now are watching. They're in one of the seasons.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
If you're 0 to 21, you're in springtime. I'm making these numbers general, right? Everybody's slightly different. But what happens in that stage of life? Well, it's like if you start a business in an optimistic springtime, you think you're a genius because everybody's well in business in springtime. Everybody's optimistic. Money's available. It goes really well.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Well, similarly, when you're a child, you're protected. Now, someone's had to go to work at seven and eight years old, but still you're overall protected. Someone looked out for you. If there's a war, you didn't go fight the war. You're being fed information. You're being taken care of to some extent. And you're learning. It's a learning process. Now, 22 to 42 is the summertime.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
That's the testing time. That's when you think you're invincible and you think you're going to be president of the United States, a multibillionaire, and have 100 relationships simultaneously and everyone's going to be happy. And you discover you can't even run one relationship by the time you're 30 or 35. And you discover you're not the president of the United States.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And so now you realize you're not invincible. That range is you're the soldier of society. You're going to take what you learn and say, I don't know if I believe this. I'm going to test what I believe. I'm going to see what I try. I'm going to create my model of the world, right? You might duplicate what you learned. You might come up with something new. But it's a testing period.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
If we have a war, you're the ones that go to war, 22 to 42. That's who goes to war, right? So you're the soldier of business. You're the soldier of society. You're learning. You're growing. It's also the period of time where all studies show people are most unhappy, right? because they're trying to prove themselves, trying to figure out who they are. They haven't figured out relationship yet.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
They haven't figured out their career yet, so forth. But if you keep growing through spring and summer, you get to the reaping time called fall, and that's 43 to 63. That 20-year period overall is when you'll earn the most because if you grew during spring and summer, By this point, you know more people. You have more relationships.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
I'm sure, John, you can do more with your pinky now than you used to do working 20 hours a day. You might still work 20 hours a day, but you just do that much more. You can accomplish that much more. So you are the leaders of society. You're the engine of society. That's the power time. That's when you're going to have the greatest rewards potentially.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
But the ultimate rewards, and I can tell you because I'm there now, is 64 to 84 to 104 to 120 rewards. The oldest humans lived 120. That's the wintertime, but that's elderhood. That's where you really get to lead, where your leadership is because you're not trying to prove yourself to yourself or anybody else.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
You know that no matter who you are, I mean, if you're Jesus, you know, people are still going to try and not be happy with you. There's no one you're going to please everybody, right? If you don't have holes in your hand, you're not going to please everybody. So after a while, you realize, you know, it's not that you don't care. It's just that you don't care. You're here to serve.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
If people don't get it, it's okay. I don't have to have everybody understand. And so there's a different level of comfort in yourself. And you have relationships that are 20, 30, 40 years long. And you know who you are.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And so now you feel like if you've taken care of your health, at least, and you've done well in terms of your life, you have unlimited freedoms to do, share, create whatever you want. And it's like life is the greatest gift possible. So those are the stages. But there's also seasons of history. So think about it. We go through a 20-year period. So imagine...
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
I'll just give you this one final metaphor. Imagine you're born in 1910, and you don't have to be a great historian to remember, okay, if I'm going to go the first season of spring, it's going to be 1910, 20 years roughly to 1930. Well, when those people were growing up, they were protected during World War I, looked out for, they didn't have to go through the war. The elders did.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And then we have this great economic surge, right? The roaring 20s. New technology, airplanes, cars, TVs, radio, all at one time. People were partying like crazy. And that generation was originally called flappers because all they did was party. They didn't do squat. They were incredibly weak. You'll see where I'm going from where you started this question.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Long way from it, but returning to it now. And what happened is when they hit 1929, they thought, 19 years old, I'm going to get a car. I'm going to party. I'm going to go out and have the time of my life. And what happened? Stock market drop, people jumping out of buildings, the middle of the dust bowl in the Midwest, people standing in line for bread, people trying to figure out how to survive.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
So a generation that was incredibly weak became strong because the times demanded it. That's what makes us strong. Going back to your original point. And then guess what? They went through 10 years of depression. Now, depression wasn't every moment. There were moments that was positive, 31, 32, and then it went back negative again. So it's wintertime. There can be sunny days.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
It's the overall theme is fear and concern. But guess what? When they made it through all that, they made it to 29 years old, and it's 1939. And now World War II breaks out, and it looks like none of us were alive back then, but those that were, look, Hitler was winning everywhere. In days, he was taking over countries. He's bombing London.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
I mean, it looked like the whole country, the whole world's going to hell. And the stock market drops through the floor, and these people volunteered, they went to war, and won. They fought and they won. They became known as the greatest generation. And when they came home, the season changed. Winter was over. They made it through 20 years. They're incredibly powerful. And good times were here.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Think about how different the 50s were and the early 60s up until Kennedy was shot. was a time of tremendous optimism in this country. And people, like, if you came back from the war, you were honored. If you came back from the war, you got the veteran loan, and you went out and you got a home in the suburbs, and new technology made it easier to be home. And then guess what?
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
After about 18 years, we get exhausted with the optimism, and we go through the summertime that tests us. Kennedy gets killed. Bobby Kennedy gets killed, senior. Martin Luther King gets killed. And generationally, and this happens every 80 years like clockwork, that generation goes, I'm not going to war. Why should I go to war?
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
That generation that was protected, right, by their parents that grew so much by pain. And so what they do, they went to college and they had love-ins and they said, you're all mean people and you think you're so great, but you don't treat black people or you don't treat white people or women well, which is also true, by the way. But they saw what's missing because they were well fed.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
They didn't have to go to war, right? They raised their children differently. They weren't there for their kids. They're off doing their thing. Their kids were latchkey kids, X generation. They came home and left themselves in the house and watched TV and figured out how to be independent. They developed a different mindset. So think of the 60s and 70s versus the 80s, 90s, 2000s.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Completely different way of being. One way to measure it is in college they asked for 60 years. What's more important? A philosophy of life that makes you feel happy or the skills that make you financially independent? When they asked in the 60s and 70s, 82% said, what would you guess? Philosophy or the skills?
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
That's right. In the 80s, 90s, 2000s, guess what the answer is?
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
That's right. Because they were raised differently. What about me? That's right. And now we're turning back to winter, where people are fearful all the time, where the same events are interpreted like it could be the end of the world. But it isn't the end. It's just a change, a transformation. So these things have gone on forever.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And when you see them, you start to realize that no war lasts forever. No pandemic lasts forever. No winter lasts forever. And by the way, some people freeze to death in winter. Other people get really strong. They learn to ski and snowboard, have a good time. They build their business. They build their family. And we're overall in a winter right now. But spring is coming.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And how far are we in the winter? If you study historians, they think we might be three quarters the way through it. There's still some winter to go through. There's still some economic challenges. There'll probably be some form of war, maybe cyber war with China or someone. But on the other side of that, people get tired of feeling that way. And they want that new springtime again.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Those seasons are part of life. That is what people need to understand is how to take advantage of the season they're in and not think that problems, most people's biggest problem is they think they shouldn't have any. When problems make us grow. So here's the last thing I'll say on that long tirade.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
But here's the history of the world in four sentences. And it comes back to what you started this question with. Good times create weak people. They don't mean to be weak. They just don't know. They've never been tested. If you live in Florida, you think cold is 68 degrees, right? If you live in Minnesota, cold is minus 30. So you have no perspective here, right?
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
So when you have good times, you don't get strong. By the way, if good times create weak people, weak people create bad times. Bad times create strong people. And strong people create great times. And then a cycle returns. That's the history of the world. So can we be optimistic about the future? Yes.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And by the way, the X generation, excuse me, the millennial generation, the Z generations that are looked down by Xers and baby boomers, like they're so weak and all that stuff. I have no worries about them. Yes, right now, some of them react like I have to have a trigger warning before you can talk about something. But that's not the majority of them. And because of winter, they will be tested.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And when they're tested, they will grow. And they have great tools, great technology tools, great intelligence, great caring. They're going to be the next heroes of the next generations.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
No, look, winter, like I just said, winter in Florida is different than winter in Minnesota.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
So the truth of the matter is, you know, I have a home in Fiji. I bought it. So if all hell is breaking loose in the world, they're on a different cycle. But we're so connected as a world, it still affects everybody. But your level of cycle will be different. But the best answer is not to hope you get yourself in a good place.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
The best answers get so strong that when winter comes, you're not complaining about it. You take advantage of it. If you look at. The top 1,000 companies in the United States, the Fortune 1,000 in the world, I should say, 60% of them, they could be born in one of four seasons, but 60% of them were born in winter, meaning they came to life during the middle of a recession or depression.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
It's mind-boggling, the biggest names. Why? Because if you do well in that season, you'll do well in every other season. So my lesson for people is, look, I know it seems really difficult right now. You need to create a compelling future. Anyone can deal with the difficult today if we have a compelling tomorrow.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
I think the most important thing is to get rid of the labels because labels become the story. And once you have a story, you live the narrative, right? So the most powerful force that can change anybody's life is the change of identity. What is identity? We all have a way of defining ourselves. And the problem is we probably defined it a long time ago.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
I don't know exactly which one story you're talking about example, but here's what I'd say. Maybe I can orient you towards my own evolution in this area. So when I was growing up, we had no money for food at times. On Thanksgiving, when I was 11 years old, we had no money for food. Now we had saltine crackers and peanut butter, so we weren't going to starve. But, you know, it's Thanksgiving.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Everybody else is having a feast. And it was pretty emotional. And my forefather and my mother were screaming at each other, saying things that once you say, you can't take back. I have a younger brother, five years younger, younger sister, seven years younger. I'm trying to make sure they don't hear the conversation.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And my whole life changed because there's a knock on the door and they open the door. And there's this man standing there with two giant bags of groceries and an uncooked turkey on the ground. And he goes, is your father here? Well, long story short, I got my dad to the front door. I thought he was going to be so happy. He was not happy. He's like, we don't accept charity.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And he went to slam the door on the guy. And the guy had been leaning slightly in, so it hit his shoulder and bounced out. He said, sir, I'm just the delivery man. Someone knows you're having a difficult time. You know, it's like... you know, please, you just accept this gift. And, you know, they just want you to have a great Thanksgiving. And my dad went to close it again.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And this guy hit the guy's foot. My dad's really starting to get mad. The guy looks over and sees me. And he says to my father, I'll never forget. He says, sir, don't let your ego get in the way of taking care of your family. Wow. The veins on the side of my dad's face were just blowing out. I mean, he was so angry. But then he took the food and slammed it down.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
I thought he was going to punch the guy. And I remember I left that going like, why is he not happy? And a few weeks later, he left our family. It was the worst. I felt the worst moment of my life at that point because I loved him. But he focused on three things. Three things control your life. What you focus on, because every moment you're deciding what to focus on.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
The decisions you make about what to focus on, the decisions you make about what it means and decisions make of what to do. So that day he focused on the unfit his family. I know because he said it constantly. The meaning was the worst part. He said he was worthless because he'd not take care of his family. And he decided to leave. I focused on, wow, there's food here. What a concept.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
You know, this is pretty amazing. And then I started looking around and saying, you know, the thing that changed my whole life was, wow, someone cared enough about my family. They don't even want credit. My father always said, strangers don't care about you. Some stranger cares about our family. So if strangers care about me and my family, I want to care about strangers.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And so that set me on this path that set me forward to say, my God, I've got to figure out how to do well because I want to pass this forward. So I fed two families and then four and then eight. And then gradually I had a small company. I got my people involved and then 2 million people. Then 4 million a year were 2 million from my foundation, 2 million from me.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
If someone said, oh, I can't do that, I'm not one of those. What they're really saying is that doesn't match my identity. But when did you come up with your definition of yourself? And the power of identity is so powerful. Like if you, for example, let's say, you know, have a big goal and you start to go for it. The last minute you get fearful and you put it off, you procrastinate.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And then now in the last 10 years, I said I was going to feed a billion meals. And we did in eight years with Feeding America as my partner. And now I'm doing a hundred billion meal project, right? And we're 30 billion meals into it in the first two years, which no one thought was even close to possible.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
It's because so many people are dying around the world because of the war in Ukraine, which is the breadbasket for Africa. So I tell you that because in order to figure that out, I remember I went to my teacher, original teacher, a man named Jim Rohn. He's a personal development speaker. And I said to him, I wonder if you can tell me, I've had four fathers. We've always been broke.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
We haven't had much food. I said, I want a different life for my family in the future. What are they doing wrong? And Jim was so brilliant. He said, Tony, let me ask you a question. He said, he goes, your fathers were good men. He said, there's no question about that.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
He said, but they picked a profession where obviously they weren't either able to do well or they did well, but they weren't in control of their own future. And he said, think of it this way. Could a person make twice as much money in the same amount of time? Is that possible? And I said, well, obviously people do that. He goes, what about five times as much money? What about 10?
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
What about a hundred times as much money in the same amount of time? I said, yeah. He goes, how do they do that? I said, I don't know. He said, the way they do it is they understand something. We're all equals as souls on this planet, but we're not equal in the marketplace. He said, if you want a different experience for your family than your father, then here's all you need to remember.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
You have to figure out how to do more for others than anybody else in the marketplace over and over again. And you will build a brand and you will dominate and you will never have to worry about economics. If you can do more for other people than anybody else, if you can add more value, not the value you want to add, the value they need. He said, the whole game changes. And so I got obsessed.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And he said, by the way, Tony, because I was saying, well, it's not fair that, you know, a teacher makes, I think back then it was like $30,000 a year or something like that. And this billionaire guy made his runs a hedge fund, just made a billion eight last year. And he said, well, Tony, let's just use McDonald's as an example. He goes, McDonald's is a great company.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
It helps a lot of people have a first job. If you go to McDonald's, you get minimum wage. Minimum wage back then, I forget what the number was, but it was tiny. He goes, it's not meant to be your ultimate job, your ultimate to grow and to expand. But the reason you make so little is there's so little added value. Today, it's getting replaced by robots, right, in most of the fast food places.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
But it's like, you can go today and learn that job in an hour. They even have pictures who can't speak English to do it, right? There's not a lot of added value. But he said, that guy that you complain about, the teacher, he goes, some teachers are good, some not so good, but they're not willing to put themselves on the line.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
They want to be paid the same amount and they want a pension, whether they teach well or not, whether the students learn or not. I said, but I had some great teachers. He goes, I did too. But how many? Well, they changed my life. He goes, well, that's great, but they pick something safe. He goes, the guy that you're talking about, he got people a return of an average of 34%.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And then you go for it again. And the last minute you get fearful and procrastinate. You have four or five times. After a while, you don't want to feel bad about yourself. So you develop an identity. I'm a procrastinator. And now, by the way, you won't be disappointed. You'll do it on a regular basis. You won't achieve your dreams, but you'll be comfortable. You follow me? Absolutely.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
That was when people were trying to get 5% returns. He said, Tony, he does that for foundations. He does that for businesses. Those people just got a jump. They made more and are growing their university educations for the kids, whatever it is, like tenfold almost. So he deserves, he made people more than 50 billion, so he deserves a billion. He added more value.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
So stop your judgment based on economics and what you think is spiritual or not, and ask yourself this question. If I could be smarter, should I? If I could be more giving, should I? If I grow financially, should I? He said, only limitation is you're not adding in a value. So that became my obsession. And that's how I built all my companies all across all these different industries.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
I'm in so many different industries and every one of them, every one of my teams obsessed, like how do we do more for people than anybody else in that industry? And that's how you get there. So it's a combination of understanding these patterns, but also understanding the most important pattern in life and in business is do more for others than anybody else.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Then you emotionally prosper, but you can also, if you work it out in a business, financially prosper as well.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And I think people that do that are the happiest people in the world. They've found a path. They know what they've chosen, and they feel great about it. It isn't about economics. I'm just trying to show people that your level of choice expands with the level of contribution that you make. And these people aren't lucky because what I learned from Jim Rohn was success leaves clues.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
That if someone is successful, not for a day or a week or even a year, but decade after decade, if they've lost weight and kept it off 30 pounds for 15 years, if they've been in a relationship 25 years and they're passionate for each other, they're not just hanging out. If they've started with nothing, anybody can make money. Anybody can get lucky.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
but they're financially free 20 years later still and are able to do beautiful things, they're not lucky. They're doing something different than you. So if you don't like where you are, instead of complaining, study them.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Because you can try and take 10 or 20 years to figure it out, or you can take someone who took 20 years to figure it out, find out what they learned in a few days or a few weeks or a few months, get yourself on the path to get there in half the time, 10% of the time. So my whole life became about how do I compress decades into days? And so I love wickedly smart people.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Or another example might be, you know, because of your background, John, as a doc, is like, okay, a person is clinically depressed. Do you think a clinically depressed person ever has happy moments? What would you say? Yes or no? Of course they do. Of course they do. But if you catch them when they go, I'm not really happy, it just looked like I was happy.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
So most of my books have been me. Like I want to help people financially after 2008. I was so angry because I work with Paul Tudor Jones, one of the top 10 financial traders in history. And, you know, these guys are, they're the kings of the mountain. And I looked around and saw what was happening, but a few people almost destroyed the entire world economy. It's like,
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
I want to show people how to take care of themselves in this area. I wasn't known for finance. I taught finance before, but not known for it. It's like, I don't care. I'm going to write a book. I haven't written a book in 20 years. I didn't like writing books. I went to Simon & Schuster and said, I'm going to write this book. And they said, Tony, you haven't written a book in 20 years.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
We'll give you a million dollars more not to write a financial book. That's it. They literally offered me a million dollars more, they said, because that's been picked over. It's a vulture. There's nothing there. I said, there's nothing there because it's all the same BS.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
I said, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to go to the very best of the world and find out what they do, what they do best, and then teach that. Something like billionaire clients could use, but something just beginning the journey can use, right? And of course, you know, wrote three number one New York Times bestsellers in that category, but it was all extracting the patterns for them.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
You don't have to be a billionaire to see there are certain patterns around risk, for example, right? Right. The most successful people don't take massive risks. Multibillionaires don't do that. If they do, they don't stay multibillionaires. They do something called asymmetrical risk reward. There you go. Right.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
So in the teachings that you do and your partners in crime have done a lot of great work for people. So like managing their debt load is great. But these guys will go out and make an investment where they have no downside.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And we have upside. And most people don't think that's even possible or they have very limited downside with huge upside. I have a friend that took, what he took $40 million and turned into 2 billion in one year. And he did it in 2008. And he did it because everybody thought real estate is going to go up forever.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And he figured a way to do investments where his risk was he could be wrong 16 times and still make money. He wasn't wrong 16 times. That's how he made $2 billion, right? I asked him, I asked him one time, his name's Kyle Bass. And I said, Kyle, I said, how would you teach this to like a child? He goes, Tony, I can't believe you asked me this.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
He said, I was just thinking, how can I teach it to my kids about six months ago? And I found the answer. And I said, what's the answer? He goes, asymmetrical risk reward is the least amount of risk, most amount of upside. So I kept asking the question, what's an investment I can make that has no downside? I cannot lose and only upside. And I said, I don't think, I can't think of one.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
He goes, most people won't even ask the question. But he said, I asked it for six months till I got the answer. And he goes, the answer was nickels. I said, nickels? He said, yeah, if you invest in a nickel, it never goes down. It's always worth a nickel. But he said it costs nine cents to make a nickel. That's how our government works. He said it won't last forever.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Because our need to stay consistent with our definition is so high. When someone's having an identity crisis, right? Somebody says they're going through that. They're questioning everything. They don't know who they are, what they're about, what they really want. So we come up with a definition of ourself and it starts to control who we are.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
He said they used to do that with pennies. Pennies used to be made of copper. Now there's almost no copper. It's mostly tin in pennies. But here's what you need to know. Those pennies that were the old ones... worth twice as much, three times as much just because of the content. He goes, just the content itself.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
It costs nine cents to make it, but the actual, if you were to melt that smell value of that five cents, it's really seven and a half cents. So he says, I can make a 25 to 30% return on day one. I go, but you can't melt the money. He goes, no, no, no, no, you can. He goes, but you don't need to because he said, like I said, when they change the game, the numbers will go up.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
So he called the Fed and bought all the nickels. He bought 20 million nickels, truckloads of nickels, had his kids carry all the nickels, put them in there. He said, if I could push a button right now and buy all nickels, I'd make my entire thing that. He goes, because I'm up 25 to 30 percent instantly. And he goes, there's no downside. So that mindset is what can shift people.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
They don't have to live this small little world, but they have to be willing to understand that four-letter word that most people avoid at all costs. It's called risk. It's not about not taking risks. It's about taking intelligent asymmetrical risks. Those are the people that win at the highest level. And that's true with your family. It's your emotional risks.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
The downside is so little compared to the upside of you stepping up and telling the truth or breaking through in that relationship or going after your kid and not letting this stuff continue. But most people, especially after COVID, don't want to risk anything. I remember I was telling people the six-foot thing. There's no science behind it.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
I was telling people that in 2020 and people were online slamming me and everything else. And like four months ago, Fauci admitted under oath that the six-foot thing had no science behind it, that he didn't know how it kind of appeared, and people walking around like lemmings, freaking out if someone was within four feet of them. We have to take risks to have life.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Can you imagine the people that settled this country and what they had to do to cross the oceans to come here to deal with this world, the risks they took so we could have this? They would be so embarrassed by us, right? It's like, we're not going to take any risks for anything. Time to take some intelligent risks. That's how your life changes.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
If you go to somebody that used to smoke cigarettes and they don't smoke anymore, they haven't smoked in 10 years. And you walk up and would you walk up and say, would you like a cigarette? We're not going to say what brand is it? They're going to say, oh, I'm not one of those. I'm not a smoker. I'm not one of those. That's not my identity. That's how powerful identity is.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
If they raise their hand, I don't just walk on the street and stop people. I used to do that. I've learned that.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
But my twenties, I did that stuff. But, but today if someone raised their hand, they're willing or they get dragged there by somebody else. But what I do is I create an environment where I don't have to tell them that. Again, I give them an experience where their energy is lifted so much. I mean, people won't sit for a three-hour movie and we go 12 hours a day for four straight days and nights.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And, you know, we just went for 19,000 people in New York. But by the way, we have since COVID, we have about half the people usually or a third of the people are experiencing it online. You know, we start here at 10 a.m. and we go 12 hours, right? Sometimes 13 to 11 p.m. And guess what? The people in Sydney, Australia are starting at midnight.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
They're going from midnight to 1 in the afternoon for four straight days and we lose 2% of the people.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Because we make it that compelling. So when the experience is that compelling, it's not words. It's the experience. When your energy is that high... What seemed impossible becomes not only possible, but you find yourself taking action. But most people since COVID, they don't even realize how low their energy has dropped because everybody has. People work at home. Their tempo is different.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Their energy is different. And it's like we're fishing water. We don't notice. But you got to imagine you got a couple that totally love each other. I mean, they adore each other and they're both in peak energy states. They take care of their body and they deal with challenges. And you know what kind of relationship they're going to have. They love each other and they got lots of energy.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
It's going to be an awesome relationship. You get two people that are worn down by daily life. So many soccer practices, ballet practices, financial stress in the new business or my job or something else, someone sick in the family. And they're like, you know, doing okay. They love each other just as much, but it is not the same relationship. You know it as well as I do.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And if you get people that are burnt into the ground who love each other, they'll say stuff and do things that will really hurt the relationship. So the level of your energy, as simplistic as that sounds, is where it starts. And it doesn't matter how much sleep you have. It doesn't matter how much food you've eaten. What matters is the psychological habit of energy.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And so one of the things we do in three or four days is people condition their nervous system at a higher level of energy, and then everything changes. When you're in a peak state of mind, I mean, have you ever done this? Have you ever been in a lousy state where you can't remember your own cell number, how to spell a difficult word like the? You know the answer, but what the hell? Yeah.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And yet there's other times when you get on the flow, when you're in a peak state where you do something or say something goes perfectly. I don't even know how I did that, but I'm impressed. I like that. I want to do that again. It's all state driven. So we show people how to change their state because most people say to me, well, I just don't feel like it.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Well, if I waited until I felt like it, I couldn't have done 90% of what I've done. I've learned how to change how I feel so I can do it. And that's one of the most important skills of life that almost certainly don't get taught in school or just about anywhere else.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
But when we get people in an environment like that, they come out saying it's the greatest experience of their life because they experience themselves at their best.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
It works on both sides, though. Let's say metaphorically. You set a thermostat at 68 degrees. That's the temperature we want. That's your comfort zone, not your goals, not your absolute ideals, but what you're used to. So imagine 68 degrees as a metaphor for how much money you're comfortable with having. You want more, but that's what you're used to.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Well, you know, as I mentioned, during COVID, we had to figure out how to adapt because all the giant structures in the world, all the stadiums were shut down. And I was like, I got lots of other businesses, but this is my mission. So I got a way to help people. So I built a studio. I put 50-foot high ceilings, 20-foot high LED screens, 50 feet around. And then I went to the founder of Zoom.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And Eric's on. And I said, look, he's a fan of mine. I said, I can't have a thousand, need 25,000. And then I created some software. So instead of clapping, you shake your phone and it sends electrical signal. If one person does it, you don't hear it. But when 25,000 people do it, it's like thunder. So now people at home are experiencing something like they're there.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And so we decided I'm going to eliminate all the things that stop people. It's money. It's travel. It's time. So I said, let's do an event to help people right now. They need it desperately. Let's charge nothing. Let's do it so they can do it from their home or their office, wherever they are. We'll do it on Zoom. And let's make it so that it's not too long, but not an hour of some pump-up.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
but about three hours for three days in a row, enough to give them the skills to go from where they are to where they want to be. And we've done it every year for the last four years. I'm doing one final one this year, and I'm real excited about it. So as you said, it's January 30th, 31st, February 1st. It's called the Time to Rise Summit.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And you can come with your family, your friends from your house or from your coworkers at the office. And what it'll do is give you a path. It's like everybody knows new year is a great possibility, right? We get excited. New year, new life. It's totally artificial, but it feels good. And people are willing to start working out or something, but then they don't have a real plan. So what happens?
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
You know, they could do it for a few weeks and make their news resolutions and then they're gone by the end of the month, right? This is figuring out what you really want for 2025. What's been holding you back? How are we going to shift it? What are the strategies? Put together the plan literally in three days.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
So imagine like going to a three-hour movie for three days in a row, but this one changes your life. And there's zero cost. It's not partially free. It's totally free. So if they go to time to rise.com or time, excuse me, time to rise summit, time to rise summit.com, you can register yourself for it and it's coming up, but get yourself registered.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Last year, we had 1.1 million people from 193 countries, every country in the world that participated in
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Well, you too, John. I really appreciate it. Please keep doing the great work you're doing. I know nothing's going to stop you. You're as driven as I am in that area. I really salute the work you're doing.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Or 68 degrees is how much intimacy, how close you are to people or your connection with God. It's a measure. Not what you want. It's what you're used to. Well, if all of a sudden things aren't as good as they should be, the 68 degrees drops down to 60. I'm sure you've experienced this in your life. I know I have in mind. Most people have. Suddenly something happens.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Your brain goes, hey, you're supposed to be up here. You're down here. And you get this push. The heaters kick on to bring the temperature up again. You feel this push to get yourself back to where you want to be. Most people listening have had that experience, but they don't realize it happens on the other side too. If you get momentum, you start to do some great things.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
I don't know if you've ever done this, John, in your life. And you start doing really well, like better than you expect. And you go from 68, metaphorically, to 75, to 78, to 80. You get about 90 degrees and all of a sudden your brain goes, hey, what the hell are you doing up here? You're a 68 degree-er. And then all of a sudden the heaters stop. You lose your drive.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And if that's not the air conditioners come on, you start to self-sabotage to get back to where you think you need to be. So my life has really been about showing people lasting change only happens when there's an identity change. When it's no longer a fight in you to try to do something. It's like this is who I am. So there's two types of motivations I'm sure you know. Push and pull.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
push is I'm trying to make it happen. I got a lot of willpower and obviously you do too, John, but you know, there's only so much willpower. Willpower will never last long-term. What lasts is pull something that you want more than who you are, something that you care about more than yourself. That's what everyone needs.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
If you can find something like that, that you're going for, then your identity will expand. I mean, I'll tell you how I changed my identity. One version of it I had four different fathers growing up. My mom was an interesting character. She's quite a handful. And all my fathers were broke, and we always had pain and no money for food sometimes.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
But I remember specifically there was a Christmas time she kicked out my fourth father, and I really loved him. And then she thought I was on his side, so at Christmas she kicked me out of the house. And she kept my 1960 Volkswagen and earned 40 bucks a week as a janitor.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And I was in high school still traveling to this place in Pasadena about, you know, if I was driving there about 40 minutes away each way and working all night in the middle of the night, finishing at two in the morning, coming back, sleeping on five hours sleep and getting up and going to school. Well, one day I finished cleaning. Oh, she keeps my car. So now I'm taking buses.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
So now it's not a 45 minute process. It's 90 minutes, sometimes two hours each way. But I get to be paid for results. If I could do two banks and I did a great job, it wasn't by the hour. So I could make enough money to support myself and come home. I come out to catch the bus at two in the morning. No bus, 215, no bus, 230, no bus.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Around 235 or somewhere in that range, a car pulls up, rolls his window down and goes, hey, buddy, didn't you see? There's a bus strike. There's no buses. And he drives off and I'm like, I have no one to call. I don't have any way to do this. And I'm 17 miles from home. And I'm like, that's the straightest arrow to get home. What the hell am I to do? And I literally, John, true story, ran.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
The most powerful force that can change anybody's life is the change of identity. What is identity? We all have a way of defining ourselves. And the problem is we probably defined it a long time ago. If someone says, oh, I can't do that, I'm not one of those. But they're really saying that doesn't match my identity. But when did you come up with your definition of yourself?
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
I never run three miles. I ran 16 miles. Last mile I walked. but 16 straight miles. And how did I do it? I literally conditioned my brain and that day changed my identity. It started with anger, to be honest with you. I'll show her, I'll show her, but you don't go very long in anger. You run out of fuel really quick, right?
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
So I read these books like The Magic of Believing by Claude M. Bristol, The Power of Your Subconscious Mind by Dr. Joseph. And so I read these books. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to condition my mind
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Not with affirmations, I'm happy, I'm happy, but where I'm going to engage my body, my focus, my language over and over with such repetition, I'm going to condition my mind with every step I take. So I started doing it every day and every way I'm getting stronger and stronger. Every day and every way I'm getting stronger. And I'll be yelling it. I do that for like five minutes.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And then I go every day, healthy and healthy, happier and happier. I did that all the way for 16 miles. And it was like two hours plus. I had shin sprints, of course. I was prepared for this or anything else. But I found a part of myself that I use to this day. I found that part of myself that will not give up. That's where I shape my identity that day.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And I've used that energy anytime I faced a challenge ever since. And so I think people can train themselves to discover who they really are. But the best way to do that is do something you don't think is consistent with your identity. In other words, a belief is a poor substitute for an experience.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
You can tell me what China's like in your belief system, but if I take you to China, you're going to have an experience. Experience is more powerful. So I try to give people experiences in my events that violate their limitations.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
That's why I've done skydiving and firewalking and all that stuff too, is because when you do something you thought was difficult or impossible, your brain goes, well, what else can I do that I thought was so impossible and so easy? And I'm one of those now. I'm a person who does these things. That shift is the most important shift for anyone to go to the next level of their life.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Yes. Well, when we're comfortable, we rarely change. Everybody wants a better life. No one wants to change.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
Exactly right. That's how it works. But here's what I can tell you about history. You know, I'm a student of patterns. You know, like when people go like, what's the future going to be like? Are you optimistic or pessimistic? Well, I'm not just an optimist to be an optimist. I believe in intelligence. I believe in seeing things as they are, not worse than it is, though.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And then I believe seeing it better than it is because without a vision, people perish. It says in a very good book. Right, right, right. And then you've got to make it that way. You've got to have the strategies to make it that way. So that's kind of my mindset with it. But part of what makes me confident is studying history.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
It's like I tell – one day I remember I have five kids and five grandkids. And I have my three-and-a-half-year-old daughter and my 50-year-old daughter. I mean it's quite a range. Wow.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
That's a gap. But I have more skills today. But I think of my grandkids and my daughter, my youngest daughter today, and I go, you know, we all know that with AI, with robotics, with nanotechnology, there's going to be more change in the next 10 years than the previous 1,000. The tempo is going to explode. It's already exploding, but we're at the base of that growth pattern, right?
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
So 40% of the jobs we have right now are going to be gone. Well, that's not a problem. We all used to be farmers, you know, 150 years ago. You know, 85% of America was farmers. Now it's 3% and we feed the whole world, right? But there was time to make those changes. So... this is going to happen so fast. So it's like, what needs to be done? Everyone needs to learn three skills.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
If you want to have your kids do well, if you want to do well, number one, you have to be good at pattern recognition. You're good at that genre. You couldn't do what you do, right? You recognize patterns that takes away fear. So when people look at things like, Oh, it's the worst it's ever been. Like, You haven't studied history.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
You study 1,000 years of Roman history, 500 years of Anglo-American history, and you see there is a cycle, almost like seasons, that happens every 18 to 20 years where there's a primary emotion, just like a season. And it controls how the majority of people think, not everybody, how people react to things. The same events are reacted to differently based on the season.
The Dr. John Delony Show
How to Change Your Life in 2025 (With Tony Robbins)
And so when you recognize patterns, you're not fearful. Second step, though, is when you learn to use a pattern, you have power. Mm-hmm. If you look at anybody that's a good dancer, good singer, someone who's run multiple businesses successfully, someone who's a great investor, which I spend my time studying those people, you'll discover that they don't recognize the patterns.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Yes, but not small by most averages, as you know, right?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
They've also done a study where, a separate one that they published in a different journal that I can get to you, which was about the teaching style, because what they wanted to figure out is- Right. How? How does this work? So I'll tell you what they uncovered.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
There's a separate group that had been working with them and had worked on measuring my body on stage, because I do immersion events, I think you know, four days, 15, 20,000 people in a stadium, 12, 13 hours a day. And when COVID happened and they shut everything down, I wanted to still help people, so I built a studio, because every stadium in the world was shut down.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And I started doing it with people in their homes. So the first thing I did was during those first three and a half years before COVID, they had been measuring me. So they had me wear this $75,000 device that measures everything. They take my saliva and my blood at every break. And they found a whole crazy set of statistics. Like, you know, I burn 11,300 calories on stage in a day.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I didn't think that was possible. But consistently, that's my average. Chess masters, Jordan, I guess, burn about 3,500 to 4,000 not moving. and about 3,500. I jump a thousand times. I'm standing here. I'm going out in the crowd. I'm running up. I keep the stadium engaged. Most people won't sit for a three-hour movie.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
No, I mean, I'm serious about... Only the toddler's got you engaged.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Because if you think about it, people spend $300 million on a movie and go past three hours and you lost everybody, right? For attention spans. We got people there. We do the digital program now. And we'll start at 10 a.m. here in Palm Beach. And we have people from 193 countries, every country in the world. So let's say Australia, we start here at 10 a.m. It's already midnight there.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
They go from midnight to one in the afternoon for four straight days and nights, and we lose 6% of the people on average. It's mind boggling. We've figured out how to keep people engaged.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Why does it work? So they measure all these things in my body and then they discovered something else. If you know Tom Brady or the Tampa Bay Lightning, that's won multiple championships in the NHL. They studied these people. They found something called what they call the championship biochemistry. And you'd appreciate this.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Every time I get on stage and the same thing, if Tom Brady's down by 10 points, as I'm sure you've seen in the Super Bowl, and he's got two minutes to finish and somehow he comes back to win. He, all these people that, including myself, have this explosion of testosterone. I mean, it looks literally like jumping up a hill.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And normally with testosterone, as I'm sure you know, cortisol comes, the stress hormone as well. cortisol drops off the cliff. So all you get is this incredible focus and drive. Plus, you remember things, which is why they think it has such cognition that's lasts a year later.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Because if I asked you, where were you at 9-11, every person, you're not even American, could tell you where they were sitting, what was around them, what was going on. Ask them where they were on 8-11, they have no clue, because information without the emotion doesn't have any lasting impact.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You got it. Then they're doing mirror neurons, right? They mirror neurons. So first they did this with me and they said, this is incredible. And the level I could sustain it was what blew them away for the amount of time. Because normally it's something somebody does for 20 minutes or 30 minutes or an hour. But the best part is then they started measuring my live audiences.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And then when COVID happened, they put people in 10 different countries and measured people there in real time. And then they showed it up and it looks like music. Because as you know, with mirror neurons, if you saw some people rowing and you're empathetic or connected, you actually feel that to some extent in your body. Well, I do that with people, obviously.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Well, these people, their energy, their explosion of testosterone, the drop off of cortisol, and that is why they believe it has that lasting impact. But they did a study with one of the top professors at Stanford teaching my exact content, that was the comparison group, and saw what the measurements were afterwards versus mine.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And the difference was for the first, I think it was three weeks on that one, almost a month, there was a nice increase, like 30% increase, more than you would expect. He's one of the top professors there. But mine was 350% and it lasted six months and then 12 months. And the difference was, wasn't the content is what we did with our biochemistry. So it's about rewiring yourself.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You can think all day, but you might both know. I modeled it with my body, my voice and everything else. And they do it. And when you do a, the other thing of it is we're using immersion. So I could have a lot easier job by going there for four or five hours and doing it, right? But the immersion is when you go 13 hours, there is a different change in your body and your biochemistry.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Well, the beautiful thing is you get to see that lasting impact because people know how to ignite it themselves. They also see that you can do it. So I got a funny story. They experience doing it. This is the point I really think is important.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
A belief is a poor substitute for an experience.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So I give them the experience of it over and over again, and they get wired. And now it's like, I'm hungry. I want to do more of this in my life, and that's why it has such lasting impact. And I knew we would, but I didn't go out for the study. They came to me. Now they're doing another one. They're doing a third or fourth study. So they're just fascinated by the results.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
However, that was published in the Journal of Psychiatry two years ago. Not one phone call from anyone about how to implement that with themselves. But if you look at the cover of Newsweek, right, two years ago, I'm sure you saw it, it says hooked on hype. And it talks about the meta studies now show that no SSRIs, they don't work.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And they're no better than sugar pills, but we still give them to 43 million Americans over and over again with all the side effects they have. So it's part of the culture that we're in, unfortunately. But we're just working to the people that are hungry and want to shift. We provide them opportunity. I don't pretend to be the end-all and be-all for everybody, but it works.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And people who've been through it know it works. It's been them telling their friends for decades, but now we have the science to back it up.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
It has to be life on their terms, not mine.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
No one on earth can do what you do and do the depth of analysis you do to take a Pinocchio story and turn that into our typical study of personal evolution and archetype. I mean, I'm thinking about consciousness, the bug bugging you and your conscience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, you blow me away. I think you're a treasure, Jordan.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I think you're one of the gifts to this world. But please continue. But I just love the way your brain goes into these things.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Right, no hope, no enthusiasm. I call it that when you look at people that are pressed or even people just not where they wanna be, they have no compelling future. Anyone can deal with the difficult today if they have a compelling tomorrow.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And so when people think about our country, our country has just gone through a period regardless, I'm an independent, I voted on both sides of the aisle, so this is not a political statement. But if I asked you what has been the vision for this country in the last four years, last eight years even, to somehow pay off our debt, to make it through these times.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
No one has got a clear vision as opposed to, look at a Democrat and a Republican. Kennedy got up and talked about, in this decade, we're going to put a man on the earth and return him safely. The city on the hill with Reagan, you could pick, it doesn't matter which person, but they both had a vision that unified America for a period of time, created an optimism.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Now you're starting to feel, not everybody, obviously, because it's left and right, but But a lot of people are now, I don't care if it's Republican or Democrat, give me somebody competent, give me somebody to get results. And there's an excitement about change because things have not happened.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
There seems to be more of a compelling future, especially in the health area you and I are both passionate about, right? With Bobby Kennedy and the army of people that were attacked during COVID who were telling the truth and now they're gonna be in charge. So the world is shifting. But I really think it's important for your listeners or viewers
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
understand, because I think you and I couldn't be more aligned, a compelling future is everything. Because without that, you can have an aim, by the way, but if it's not compelling, it's not going to do much.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
But I also get them to experience it once again. If they just watch me, you know, like I'm not here to be their role model examples. I'm not here to be your guru. I'm here to be your friend. I have some insights. You have insights. We can learn from each other, right? But the idea of getting in a state of mind where you're in a heightened state of consciousness because your energy increases.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Think about it. When your energy drops, usually negative thoughts grow with that pretty massively, right? Self-negative thoughts, thoughts about society. As you raise the energy level, it's like plugging into a computer, you know, the greatest computer, but enough electricity. But if there's full electricity, there's power there.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And most of us have gotten adjusted to a level of energy, especially post-COVID, that we don't even realize, because we're like fish in water. It has dropped massively. When I walk around into companies, that's why engagement became so important to me. There's just not the same level of engagement, and no one's trying to deliberately do it.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
They were conditioned for four years to sit still in front of a computer and do anything, and many people before that weren't doing anything. It just magnified it. But when the energy increases, that's my first job, your consciousness increases with that frequency of intensity.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You're going from dial-up to a higher level.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
That's correct. Right, right. And when you have a new view of the world, you come up with new meanings. And meanings, as you know, we both know, you did maps of meaning. My entire life has been, you know, I remember reading Man's Search for Meaning. I'm actually making the film.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And it was one of the books that influenced me the most because the ability to find meaning, even in the most difficult time. And Viktor Frankl, to me, is just a godsend to this planet. Yeah, it's a great book.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
If you haven't read it, please, whoever you're listening, read it.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Read that book. It's incredible. But the point of... your meanings change, your focus and your meanings change when your energy shifts. And so it's so fundamental to bring that energy up. And most people have no reference for it in their body. You know, if you go to our concert, I remember Pat Riley came to one of our, who owns a piece of the Miami Heat. It was an amazing coach.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I look at it this way. We don't experience life. We experience the life we focus on. Much of what we think we're doing ourselves is being shifted by the outside world. So I say prime yourself.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
If you're not familiar with the NBA basketball, one of the winnings coach in history, good friend of mine, known him for 30 years. And he came to one of our programs and he said, Tony, this is like the seventh game of the NBA championship, but it goes on for four days and it's 13. hours a day.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So that vibrancy and most people at the game are cheering at times and not, this is an experience in your body. That's why I do the number of hours. That's why it's immersion. That's why it's multiple days, four days or six days. And that's why it has the lasting impact. But you're right. The dopamine circuits are actually creating, what's the white matter in your brain? The myelin, right?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You know, people look at somebody like, I'm fortunate enough to own a piece of several sporting teams, and one of them is the Golden State Warriors, and you look at Steph Curry, the greatest 33-point shooter in the world, and people look at him, and he goes and he shoots the ball from like almost half court, and he's chomping on the side of his mouthpiece, and he doesn't even wait to go, he turns and smiles, and he knows, and then all of a sudden the crowd goes wild and it goes through.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
It's like, it looks like impossible. But where did that impossible come from? He built the myelin over and over and over again. So it's hardwired. Yeah, exactly. He knows exactly what did and how did he do that. This is the part that we all forget. I always tell people, when you see people who are amazing in public, they're being rewarded in public for what they've practiced massively in private.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Yes, yes. So here's his plan. Just take 15 years in the NBA. That's all he's been there. Greatest three-point shooter in history. Nobody even close if you're not familiar with the NBA. He practices 500 shots a day, every day, seven days a week, bar none. That's 3,500 shots a week. So 168,000 shots a month. 2.52 million shots, not forget his college career, just in his professional career, so bad.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
He can make 3,300 three-point shots and be the greatest in history. That's less than one-tenth of 1% of the time compared to his practice. So the wiring in him is so powerful, but it doesn't just show up. Hope and excitement are wonderful things, but you need competency as well.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And in order to have that, the hope can get you started, give you the drive, the vision, the aim, but you've got to have the execution. You have both the strategy... And you've got to have the execution that's practiced so it's in your nervous system.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Because motivation is—the reason I use it is it's like a warm bath. You should probably take a bath, but it doesn't last, right? You should still do it. But drive is like, everyone is motivated. If you're overweight, you're motivated to eat, right? Come on. I want to find out what drives you because if we unleash your drive, not my drive.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
That's right. What is it that will unleash you?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Okay, so- And by the way, I find, tell me if it's the same for you, it's not just the aim or objective, it's strong enough reasons. In other words, somebody say, I want to make a billion dollars, but they don't do it. And they even vision to get excited about a million dollars, whatever it is. I want to have three perfect children. I want to write a book, whatever.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
The secret is reasons come first, answers come second. Once I know what I want, I got to figure out why. Because purpose is stronger than object. So the object may inspire you, but what's going to keep you going is strong enough reasons when it's tough. What are the reasons? Okay, I want this money. For what? Well, I want to provide a home for my mom.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Well, that's very different than I just want to have these pieces of paper with pictures of dead people on it, right? People say, I want money. They don't want money. They want an emotion. They want an impact. They want security, or they want freedom, or they want to be able to contribute, or they want to do something they think money will give them more choices on, right?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
They don't want the money. So I'm always trying to dig underneath to figure out what is the... Yeah, that's the substructure. Exactly. That's the surface desire. And many people focus on the surface desire, not knowing enough reasons to follow through. That's why New Year's resolutions don't work.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
91% of them, I don't know what the latest statistic is, people don't follow through after three weeks. By the time they're hearing us speak, if they had New Year's resolutions, they're gone. Because they don't have... The reasons to push through, they don't have the strategy. It's wonderful if you say, I want to see a sunset.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
But if your strategy is to start running east as fast as you can, I don't give a damn how positive you are. It's not going to work. So it's a combination of that aim, those values, that drive you and I are talking about that ignite enough reasons for it and then the strategy. strategies to execute because you'll eventually find your way there.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
But the speed at which you do it is if I believe in modeling, I believe success leaves clues. My original teacher, Jim Rohn, taught me that. He said, if someone is successful at anything, they've got a great relationship and it's 20 years down the line and they still do it. Or they lost weight and kept off for 10 years.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Or they went from nothing to not just making money, but sustaining financial security and freedom for their family. They're not lucky. They're doing something different than you are. So instead of you trial and error, which is standard way in which we learn, you find the pathway to power by finding someone who's done it consistently and produced results.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
That obsession within me has launched most of the books I've written, most things I've done. It's like, I want to know what, you know, this book was, how do I help people with, The best breakthroughs in health, for example, life force and energy, they take 17 years to go from the breakthrough time to your clinician. Like, how do I shorten that up?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I'm going to interview 150 of the most brilliant regenerative doctors in the world, Nobel Prize winners, and find out what they're doing and give it to you right now. Or I'm going to finance. I can talk to you finance about what I think, or I can go interview 50 of the smartest financial people in the history of the world that are alive today and find out what do they do?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And while they're different, I look for what are the common strategies, elements, what is guiding this? And then I can teach that my billionaire client goes, this is incredible. And the average person goes, this is incredible. Because it's very much what you do. It's finding the pathway. It's finding the DNA. It's finding the codex. of how to go from where you are to where you want to be.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
But it is more than just the aim. That'll start you. You've got to have the purpose or the reasons or your purpose. If it's somebody else's purpose or reasons, it won't last.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And then you need the strategies too because that'll give you the drive and you will figure it out if you can discipline your disappointment. If you can push yourself beyond what most people give up on, you're going to get there eventually. You're going to keep flexing. But you'll get there 10 times faster if you can say, wow, there's already a pathway that's been proven.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Why would I reinvent the wheel? I'll still bring myself to it, my own uniqueness to it. But there's certain fundamentals that if you do them, you're going to have economic abundance. If you don't, you're going to have pain.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And then you're not at... As opposed to being pulled apart. I want to be totally successful and never be rejected. If you're going to be successful on a social scale, that's not possible. And so if you have those two conflicts, you're going to take two steps forward and three back. And that's what we do with people.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
We have them re-engineer the values so they pull you forward as opposed to pull you apart. Because most of us have so many conflicts. It's A lack of clarity, usually. Yes, definitely.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
There's not enough reasons. Yeah. Poor strategy. But ultimately, what really stops people and what I do with people and events is I find the inner conflict.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
The inner conflict is what's keeping them from executing.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Yeah, yeah, okay. And that's okay, too. It doesn't have to all be the same story, but there has to be some unifying element to what matters most to you for you to live an extraordinary quality of life. Again, life on your terms. What you think is extraordinary. Is that three children? Is that writing a book? Is that building a business? Is that all the above?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
If you persist long enough, because it took you like 98 to have this first kid, right? Yeah, exactly. But he didn't give up, he just kept moving forward. It didn't matter if he made mistakes, he kept moving in the right direction.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Because we'll always do more for those we love than we will for ourselves. Yes, right. That's the beauty of being human. That's humanity at its best, right?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
That's where all the energy comes from. There's so much. I look at it this way. you can call it God or you can call it life, whatever your, I prefer God, but still, life supports whatever supports more life.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So as an individual with my own goals, take your bees, the bumblebee could be selfishly going after just the nectar for itself, if you want to call that selfish, but then what attaches to its legs is pollen and that's why it more flowers, right? So there's a certain amount of benefit by anyone's individual desires, desire of the father, right?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You know, it's like with that desire is the ability to fulfill it if you can persist and discover. But I found that I believe that when your desire is to serve something more than yourself, first of all, you get out of yourself. So there's no more of the internal anxieties.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
The mind is, it's distorting, deleting, and generalizing. It's a reduction system so that all this input doesn't overwhelm us. So what happens, that reduction system makes us not see, not experience some aspects of life. Yeah, yeah. That's why I said, we don't experience life, we experience life we focus on.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So it's our job to direct the focus, but then have enough reasons to follow through on that focus and then have enough emotional fuel. I mean, think of it this way. It's the difference between knowing something intellectually and having it in your nervous system. Mastery starts with cognitive understanding. Cognitive understanding is like $3 will almost get you a Starbucks.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You know, no one cares, it won't do anything, right? But if you go from that to emotional understanding, which is consequence you're describing, where I start to learn that if I do this, it gives me this pain, or if I do this, it gives me this pleasure, now I'm gonna apply more of what I've learned. Well, my goal is to get down to physical mastery. That's the procedural memory level.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And that's what you're able to do with immersion after day after day. Yeah, that's right, that's right. Because you don't have to think about it anymore. It just happens. When I went to drive a stick shift car the first time, I don't know your experience, but mine was overwhelming. That guy teased me because I'm like, I'm supposed to do this and this and this and watch the road to them.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
It's never going to happen. But sure enough, you get in your nervous system. with enough repetition, enough emotional reward, and then all of a sudden it's in your body, and now you can do 12 other things. Hopefully you're not texting, but you can do it all.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
What do you call the process you described? Future authoring. And you are getting to think of reasons. So the only thing I would add to that, if I could, if I was able to add my two cents, which is all it's probably worth, I would alter their state while they're doing it to a higher level of energy.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You can still generate... choices of music, or you could generate some element of exercise for them to do physically, a breathing process. Like, for example, in the study you saw, they mentioned 10 minutes of practice. Well, not everybody did it, but the 10-minute practice comes from something I do. You're familiar with priming, right?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So for your to remind people, priming is when you think it's your thoughts, very often those thoughts have been primed by the environment. So one quick example, so they know what we're following, you and I are following, is they took a group of actors, four of them, two men, two women, had them go out and approach people in the park and the mall and all these things.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And they walk up to them and they have a cup of coffee. I mentioned this the other night when we were together. And they hand you the coffee and they look down. So could you hold this for a second? And they look down. They don't wait for you to say yes. Well, 98% of people take the coffee because it looks like it's going to fall otherwise. They reach in their pocket. They take out their phone.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
They put it back. They say, thank you very much. They practice doing the exact same way, the same facial expression, men and women. They do 100 people each, 400. The only difference is half of them they gave iced coffee to, half of them they gave hot coffee to. Now, 15 to 20 minutes later, somebody comes by with a clipboard and they come up and say, excuse me, here's $20. This is not a scam.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
We're just under a tight timeline for our research. If you'd read these four paragraphs of this story and answer these two questions, we'd give you $20. And a lot of people didn't even take $20. They're just, okay, I'll do it. They read the story. They ask them a question. The primary question is, describe the main character of the story. What were they like? What are their qualities?
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
81% of the people given iced coffee said the person was cold and uncaring. 79%. basic meant variability, of the people that got the hot coffee so the person was warm and genuine. The same thing happens with creativity tests, showing you IBM and Apple, seeing those. That's all you got to do before the test.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
The ones that see the Apple commercial or even the logo, because Apple commercial was Think Differently, scored 22% higher on the creativity test. So much of what we think we're doing ourselves is being shifted by the outside world. So I say prime yourself.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You wouldn't last those 12 hours if you're just sitting still. It's all movement. It's all music. It's constant. In different types of music, there are different emotional states that I want to produce. Right, right. So I use that as well.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
There's a clear outcome that unifies you moving towards it. And you're unconscious.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Well, that's the problem. Because I can even have the plan, but because I know the outcome, when I go out, I feel the room and it always changes.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I'll mention just about public speaking as a whole. It's one of the largest fears that people have in public place. And people ask me, don't you have that fear? Well, of course not. I've done it, you know, 8 billion times. But the real reason is I wasn't scared in the beginning.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And the reason I wasn't scared is because I was obsessed on the audience and what do they need and what I believe passionately I can serve them with. So I'm not there. I call it uptime. When you're in uptime, I'm out here feeling you. You see a speaker that loses the audience for a moment or completely, they go in their head and they're trying to figure out what to do.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
What do people think of me? Yeah, that's it. That's different than am I getting through to them? Very different. Or am I pursuing the quest? That's right. Well, how far along are we in getting them to where we're committed to here? Like, what are they really experiencing? Yeah. But my preparation starts with physical for the same reasons.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You wrote in your first book, and I've been teaching it since I was 19 years old, I guess. I call it physiology first. You call it shoulders back, right? It's like the physiology has to be created first in me or I can't take you there. How am I going to... If I want to touch you, I got to be touched. If I want to move you, I got to be moved.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So first there's the endurance aspect, which is, you know, I do oxygen deprivation. I do everything you can imagine, you dream of, of exercise so that I can get up there and sustain for 12 or 13 hours for four days or six days. So that's one part. Then people ask my wife, what's something about Tony that no one realizes? She said, how hard he prepares. Because I can do the same.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I could use my pinky. I could do nothing and get up to do with this stage of my life. But I believe that loading my commitment to be the best I can be to deliver for these souls is I got to be clear on the outcomes. And I have multiple outcomes with multiple days and pieces. I have primary outcomes for each day and even segments of the day. It's like, okay, these are my primary outcomes.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And then I close my eyes and I focus on who's there and why they're there.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Because I want to see it. I want to feel it. I'm a see-feel person. I see it and I can feel it immediately. So I see what the result needs. I see where the audience is. And then I think about what makes everybody unique. If I'm going to a stock brokerage company or I'm going to a general population, I'm going to China.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And there, obviously, it's not about, or let's say Japan's even better example. It's not individualism and the need that people have to save face. And then how do I meet those needs? So I think in depth about who these people are. Even though there's a huge audience, there are patterns. Some are general, but they're wide enough and important enough.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And then I also have interviewed people in advance. My staff does. And I read why they're there, what they're interested in, what the hooks are, just as triggers. a 12 to 22 page questionnaire they do. That's a very intensive program. I read them all, 5,000 of them. I will not remember everybody's name, but I will remember those patterns.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
When somebody stands up, my brain takes off and knows where to go with it, right?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So physically I'm there, mentally I'm connected. So I tell people in business, fall in love with your customer. Don't do a transaction. Yeah, right. Like if you fall in love with your customer or your client, they'll become your client. They become your client, you're gonna serve them long-term. You're gonna give yourself a friendship, a relationship, you know?
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And so I do that before I create that relationship with them before they've ever had a relationship with me inside of me. And then the third thing I do- That's gratitude for their presence. I'm so grateful to the president and grateful that I have the privilege to serve them and learn from them.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Because I don't have the delusion when I get up there that I'm just here to deliver every single time. I'm going to learn from these interactions as well.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You know, it's interesting. You see people who are intimidated or arrogant. I don't experience either one of those in my life. And I think it's because early on I made a decision. I don't have to worry about trying to be enough because I know every person I meet is superior to me in some way. Not because I'm inferior, because they have a different life experience.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Like with you, your capacity with language, your capacity, I know how to deal with stories. active, pragmatic stories reshaping. But your ability to take any mythological, religious element, you just blow me away. I mean, that's very sincerely, it's like you have a gift in that area. It's incredible. I don't have that same gift. I have portions of that maybe, but not that.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I have other gifts, right? So I look at you and I hold you with such respect And so I developed strong relationships because people feel the love and respect. You can love somebody and not respect them, right? You can respect somebody and not love them. Well, I'm a lover, so that's easy, right? I find the good in everybody. But I respect because I know it's going to be there.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And I'm not worried about losing something because I also know.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
But I also know, and this is not ego-driven, I'm superior to every person I meet in some context because I have a different life experience. And in my life, it's been an obsession, this will be my 48th year doing this, of understanding what makes people do what they do.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Why can you give some people everything, love, support, education, economics, and they end up in rehab their whole life, and someone else, life just smashes the hell out of psychologically, spiritually, emotionally, go through abuse, and they become Oprah Winfrey. And they touch the world, right? And what I began to realize is biography is not destiny.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And so then I started to see what are the core principles that shape all of that. And now I want to put it into a process. So then what I do is right before I go on stage, I have a last set of physical things I do every time. I do a set of movements I do on my body, like wake up my whole nervous system. Imagine...
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I wanna take my energy to level zero to 10, level 20, because there is no 20 level 10, that's limited thinking, right? I'm gonna take it as intense as I can. So now when I relax, relaxing is a nine or a 10 as opposed to a four or five. My energy has to capture a stadium and sustain it. So I do that. Then the last piece that I do personally is it's a prayer.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And it's just, I wear these baseball caps a lot of times and on the side of it, it says to be a blessing and underneath it says, and you'll be blessed.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So I ask God to just, you know, please use me. Use me, Lord, today. Use me to bless them in whatever way they need to be blessed. And I make that move my body and music hits and I go outside there and then it takes over. It takes over when I was bleeding out. It takes over when I had mercury poisoning and I was throwing up as they're announcing my name. And I'm gonna get up for 13 hours.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
The other day I went to Mexico and I won't give you the gory details, but I discovered that willpower does not control your bowels. It's not enough when you've been to Mexico. And I'm getting on stage with 19,000 people and I've gone for five days with E. coli and my body is in convulsions. And I'm trying to think of how am I gonna hang on? I walk out there.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I had to tell the audience, if I disappear, please don't leave. I'll be right back. I've had this little experience, right? And in 15 minutes, I go from my body's hanging off a dear life to something takes over. I don't know if it's the sympathetic that takes over, but then 13 hours without a break and I'm in it.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
But I really believe that's that part when I said life supports what supports more life. If I now, when I suddenly had I was 25, I married a woman that was 11 years my senior. She'd been married twice before and she was unhappy without her kids. So I adopted her kids. So I'm 25 and I have a 17-year-old son, an 11-year-old, a five-year-old. My level of growth
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
by that responsibility that I took very seriously, while I still wanna change the world, was explosive. Well, if your goal is to support your family, that's a different level of insight than just you. You're gonna get more insights. If you're looking to serve a community, if you're looking to see humanity, I'm not talking about virtue signaling.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I'm talking about in your soul, you know what is real, what your deepest purpose and desire is, what you're called for. Well, when that happens, there's an aliveness and a strength that seems to overcome. It overcomes exhaustion. It overcomes everything. Well, that's what Frankl said. Because it comes through you. It's a calling. It's a different experience, right?
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
But I also just want to mention, I just mentioned the 10-minute pieces. That priming I was telling you about, I start every morning by priming myself, including the days I'm on stage. What is priming? I wasn't much of a meditator. My meditation is serving people. God kind of comes through or somebody stands up and they're going to commit suicide. It all just happens.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Or I'm running on the beach, I'm in nature. That's my version of meditation, more active movement. But I realized there was value in the stillness at that stage and the peace. And so I developed this little 10 minute process. And why 10 minutes? Because if I told you 20, you'd tell me you don't have the time, right? If you don't have 10 minutes for your life, you don't have a life, right?
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You agree with me? So I said, I want to do three things in that 10 minutes. What is the emotion that keeps most people, what messes up their relationships, messes up their career? Two of them, in my belief. Fear and anger. Those two. What's the antidote to those? Gratitude.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
But not mamby-pamby gratitude, I'm grateful. Like, if I ask you what it was like driving on a roller coaster, and you remember the roller coaster over there and tell me about it, there's no change in your biochemistry. But if I get you to be in the front seat going over the edge, that's fully associated with it. I'm going to get the biochemical changes.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So what I do is I do these changes in my body. It takes less than a minute of this kind of breath of fire. If you know yoga, breath of fire, explosive breath, which changes the biochemistry. And now I take 10 minutes and I do three things. One, I take three minutes, a minute each.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And I think of something in my life that I'm incredibly grateful for, but I'm in the front seat, feeling it, being there, experiencing it. So it has a biochemical change, not an intellectual change. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I usually pick one of those three. It's got to be something really simple. It could be the wind on my face from the ocean here.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
It could be the smile of my daughter, you know, the morning. And so I don't make it just like everything's going to the moon, right? And so I train myself to feel that. When do you do that in the day? First thing in the morning, right? What do you mean first thing? Do you mean as soon as you wake up? I go outside. I do the water first. I do the hot and cold.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So I do, you know, people, now it's very popular, but I've been doing it for, what, 17 years. I've been jumping in the cold and doing it. So I have cold plunges everywhere in my home in Sun Valley. So that wakes you up. It not only wakes you up, it's also a mental discipline. Your entire lymph system, blood flows, but...
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
There's never a day that I can remember where I was like, I can't wait to jump in this freezing water at 52 degrees. Yeah, right. Or if I'm going to the river in Sun Valley walking through the snow and it's like 42 degrees there, right? But when I get to it, there is never hesitancy because I am training my brain besides my body that like people say, oh, I don't feel like it.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I don't give a shit if you don't feel like it. Of course you don't feel like it.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
No, but I don't negotiate with myself. It's like the minute I get there, I don't go, okay, let me get ready or let me get one more comfortable moment. It's like, when I say go, we go. And I've done that for years. So now when I say go, we go with anything else. There's no discussion. This is what we're going to do right now. This is a unified force. So I get that.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And then I sit and I do this breathing and I do three minutes. Fully connected to what I'm grateful for, a huge biochemical change. Three minutes on what would be a prayer or a blessing, where I ask for guidance to cleanse my system of anything that's no longer needed, to strengthen my greatest strengths, my love, my passion, my commitment.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And then I see sending that energy out like in a circle to those closest to me, my family, my closest friends, my associates, my clients, my customers, anybody I want to meet.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And also, I'm sure you've seen, you know, Dalai Lama, they did those studies where people focus on compassion for people they don't even know. And there's a change in the brain and how it functions. So I do that for myself. So there's a science based everything I do as well. And then third.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Well, why not, right? If you practice gratitude, you're going to get better at it. What am I doing all this? I'm wiring myself every day to do this, right? So it becomes like when I wake up, it starts to happen. And then the third one I call three to thrive, where I think of three things, a minute each, that I want to accomplish or achieve, and I see them as already done. I feel them as done.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I celebrate them as done. So my reticular activating system, which I can talk in shorthand for you, you understand, if I go and I... buy a car and outfit, suddenly you see their car and outfit everywhere. Well, weren't they always there? Yes, but now it's important to be RAS, right?
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So I wire my RAS for the final victory with the emotion and the impact on my family and my friends and everything else. So are you doing that with the images? Yes, I close my eyes, I see, feel, and I feel. I walk through it, I celebrate it.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
It's image and feel. Everyone has different synesthesia patterns, as I'm sure you know. Mine are see, feel. Some people are audio, feel, right? Some people, everybody has different synesthesia. Well, not everybody has synesthesia. Some people stay on one modality, as you know, and that limits you. But I wired myself to see feel. So I know that's it. So I see it. I feel it is done.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And then I'll say something.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And now what happens is now you're vibrating. Now the world hits you. Because look, there's two worlds you've got to master, the outside world, the inside. Well, you can't control that outside world. You can influence it. But I can certainly control what I focus on, what it means to me, what I'm going to do. And so now when things come in, they bounce off.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Now, I might do 60 seconds of grace later in the day, like take a minute and kind of reignite it if I feel like I need a little boost for it. But when you do that enough, it's the myelin. It's like Venus Williams and her sister, right? They wired themselves by playing since they're so small and doing it. So I'm wired to find the solution. I'm wired to find the gratitude.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And I'm wired to find the good in it. So it doesn't just show up, right? It doesn't show up for Steph Curry. You do, again, what you're rewarded for in public is what you practice in private. So I do all that before I get on stage, then I get on stage and then it flows. And then I feel, and I will work sometimes till two or three or four in the morning
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And I have a team around me that are amazing and they work crazy hours with me and I'm creating something new and I lay out. I'm a sequence guy. The dog bit Johnny, Johnny bit the dog. Change the syntax of the same ingredients. It's a very different experience, right? So I'm always figuring what's a good syntax. And we all laugh about it because we work hard.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And then I get up that morning and get up on stage. And within five minutes, all that crap's out the window. I may still use pieces.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
But like you said, this is the part you understand that most people don't. Why do I do that if it always changes? Because I'm loading my brain. It's like, there's a difference between what people call emotional intelligence and what I would call emotional fitness. Emotional intelligence is a capability. You can be capable of being smart and not use your intelligence.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I ask people, are you an honest person? Yes, but can you lie? And anybody who's honest has to say, yes, I've lied, right? So let's say, you know, whether you show up or not, I look at emotional fitness as not a capability, it's a state of readiness. I have activated all the circuits. So now when I walk out there, My nervous system is wired to serve you in any way that could possibly show up.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
They're activated. It's like a belief. Think of this. A lot of people have conflicting beliefs. So which one do they act on? You may have been raised, look before you leap. Someone else thought you, he who hesitates is lost. Okay, they're both in you. Which one are you going to act on? Whichever one has been activated the most. It's the activation of your nervous system.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
That's the part I think people miss. So many people have great philosophical understanding, but they don't execute. And I'm a big believer that knowledge is not power. Knowledge is potential power. Execution dwarfs and trumps knowledge every day of the week. So I am an accelerant for the activation of moving forward, not just the understanding.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
100%, but also then it resides in you, not as a thought.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
That's right, and by the way, this is a really important distinction. I believe, and I think you probably do, and correct me if I'm wrong, we have multiple personalities. We don't have one personality. This idea that we're seeing a personality. That's right, and I believe when someone stands up and they've got a problem, what that really is is an unanswered question.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Somebody's like, I got a problem. And I'll say, what's your question? Right? Yeah, right. Because if we solve the question, your problem disappears, right? But what I also notice is I believe that answer is already inside them.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
They presume the question too rapidly and jump to the solution without allowing the- Or another consideration is they don't want you to solve the problem right now, and men are focused on solving problems. That's how we grew up in the hurricane. Well, but they also solve the wrong- They want connection, they want caring, they want empathy first and foremost.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And so if you're busy giving the solution, I've made this mistake so many times, Jordan, in the beginning, because I'm wired to give people solutions, as my whole life has been. But for my wife or for any woman, even my daughter, my mother came in earlier and it wasn't about solving, it was about bringing presence to her. Yeah. It was about her being comforted.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
It's about me feeling her and her feeling that I feel her. And that solves it by itself because women get together and oftentimes they don't solve the problem. They just say, I can't believe you're going through this. How do you, I don't know how you do it. And that nurtures them so they can return to their natural self where they're able to deal with all these things. So women are unbelievable.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Men are, you know, tend to be single focus, as you well know. They have diffused awareness. They could be here and hearing what's going on with a kid and what's happening to you and what's going on here together. That blows my mind what women are capable of. But with it comes an enormous burden. And what we need to understand as men is we don't carry that same burden.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
We can end things more easily. Women tell us how to be alive because men can go for the target and get there, celebrate, and it's over. Women bring the life to everything. So we miss out on that when we make the illusion that we're just going to solve this. It's why not just men and women, all of us have different models of the world, as you well know.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And so the more I can understand your model of the world, the more I can support you, love you, influence you in a positive way towards what you want. So to me, to influence another person, you have to know what already influences them. Like most people are good. I look at what creates an extraordinary life. I think it is leadership. And to me, leadership is influence.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And influence is the ability to shape the thoughts, feelings, and emotions in a positive way. You can influence in a negative way, the quality of someone's life. Whether it be your kid, whether it be your friend, it has to start with you. You can't do it yourself, you can't do it with anybody else. So if influence is that, you gotta know what influences people.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Most people, do you have, you have three children? How many children do you have now, I'm sorry? Two. Two children, right? Yeah. So I'm at the campus, I know her. If you're, you know, most people have not a favorite child, but they have an easier child. Was that true in your experience?
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Okay. Most people tell me, well, I had an easier child, and they laugh. And I said, now, was that child more like you or more like someone else? And they all laugh because the one that had great influence is the one that's more like them, right? But the real secret to influence is being able to influence anyone by understanding what's already influencing them.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Of course, when you tell the child that's like you to clean the room the way that worked for you, it works. The other one goes read between the lines, right? Because they have a different personality, different way of being. So my whole focus is...
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Enter people's worlds where they are by understanding their model of the world, as opposed to trying to impose yours and wondering why it doesn't go anywhere. If I can align your needs, your desires, your outcomes with what we're doing together in a company, in a family, in anything, then we're going to have enormous harmony and there's less friction. Of course.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Well, you took that complexity and made it equally complex. Yeah, thank you, sir. Thank you. I appreciate it. It was actually really simple. You know, I've been working with people. This has got to be my 48th year beginning now across the world. I have the privilege of recognizing there's only so many patterns.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So I may start, I'm going to raise the energy. I'm going to start to introduce questions and they're rhetorical questions, but you watch people start to process. If I say to you, don't think of the color blue, don't think of the color blue, don't think of the blue, we know what color you're thinking about, right? If I want you to think about your mother, I start talking about mine.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
If I want you to think about your high school years, talk about mine. You'll go into trance and you'll go to your place. Most change I find, lasting change always happens in an altered state. an altered state of consciousness. Well, you can call it hypnosis. Have you ever seen people go to an elevator and push the button that's already lit up? If you got a dollar for every one, you'd be rich.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Or you're even driving your car and then all of a sudden something gets you fixated and then you wake up and go, who the hell's been driving the car, right? People go into trance state. Trance just means you're more internal than external. So I utilize that. I let them go to their internal world and enrich their maps.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And then once they have an understanding, the cognitive, and they start seeing the emotional consequences, now I have them do something while they're there. I call it e-cubing. I'm able to hold people that length because I believe people want to be entertained first in the world we're in today. We're not in the information age. It's over, it died. There's too much information.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
We're drowning in information, starving for wisdom. So what people want is entertainment. So I earned the right By entertaining, by making them laugh, cry, move them so much that people didn't think they're going to be. The people came there like this, right? In a matter of 15 minutes, that's all changed so radically. So now I have the right to educate them.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And I want to bring them the best insights. Why do you think that convinces them?
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
It produces an emotional change, not just an intellectual one.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Because they get comfortable when you're laughing or trying or moved emotionally, you're wide open. Things are not, you're not hanging, you can't hang on. Is that a matter of establishing something approximating trust? Without a doubt, there's trust. I remember one time, a good friend of mine is now, I've known him for 25 years, but when I first met him-
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Yeah, I was on stage and I go out there, so what you said, and I'm working in those days, it was the 80s, you wore a suit and tie and three-piece suit, like you on stage for 13 hours a day.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And my friend who was not, wasn't my friend then, he came in and he was, somebody dragged him there, he's like this, and he goes, I remember looking at you and watching you, and the sweat on your tie was gradually going through the entire, it was soaked, my chest was soaked, I was dripping, and I was giving every ounce of my soul.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
He goes, anyone could fake that for an hour or two, but 12 days, he said, That son of a bitch can jump. I can jump and make this thing happen too. And so there is a trust factor that happens there.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
While the brain has infinite complexity, it's not completely complex in terms of the mind. And so over the years, I've developed a series of processes to help people kind of develop what is their true north for them, not for me, and shift their values so that they're naturally pulled in the direction of what they really want at this stage as opposed to what their conditioning has to do with.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
They get that I'm there in service of them. But I could do all this a lot less and be fine. And they'd probably be fine. I'm not looking for fine. I'm looking for transformation. That requires more. And then the answer to your question is I have them do exercises where they take that insight and they do with somebody else. Let's say it's
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
matching a mirror and learning how to create rapport unconsciously. I'm sitting next to a stranger they've never met and mirror their body perfectly, have a third person adjust them till they're there and then say, tell me what you're experiencing. And the other person writes down what they're experiencing.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And somewhere between 80 and 90% of the time, they will say the same feeling, but about 30% of the time, they'll see what this person is seeing. I'm on a boat, there's two children, they're blonde. I mean, how could they know that? because they're tapping into the exact same thing that's happening in the nervous system next to them. Now, once you have a bad experience, you don't forget it.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And that's that mirroring. And for your viewers or listeners, you know, there are different modes of the brain. So when you're in a visual state, imagery state, you tend to talk more rapidly, use words like, I see that, a picture, imagine that, right? Visual words, and this rapid, because a picture's worth a thousand words. When someone's more in an auditory state...
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
They have a different tempo, a different approach, much more Jordan-like, and it also soothes. And for somebody who's in that state, it's great. And then there are people that will get into the kinesthetics of their body, and they're more like, You know, I just don't feel it. I just don't get a sense of it. The audience is going, I don't hear it.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I don't, it just, I'm listening, but I just, I'm not hearing it, visual person. So by the way, visual people driven crazy sometimes, like anesthetic people, we're all free, right? But in certain contexts, and so I tend to go more visual. I've got so much I want to share. My passion brings it, so it brings in energy. But if I don't slow it down for 12 hours, I'll lose a part of the audience.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So the same thing, shaking hands, you shake and reach out and shake hands and shakes the hands like that. That's the person's individual person goes like this. It's more rhythm and they shake hand like that. It's auditory. Somebody is more hesitant and they kind of reach out. It's more kinesthetic.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I can even know by the way they're approaching me, what language to use that will pull them in closer. Am I going to use visual language, auditory or kinesthetic language?
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And it can change because I can tell by their movements. You can see if someone's more kinesthetic what their movements are like versus visual what their movements are like. And you mirror it. And when you mirror it, they feel an unconscious connection with you, right?
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
It's like a dance. It's exactly like a dance. And you see people do it naturally. You asked about the audience. When I look at the audience, I'm looking at people and I'm seeing individuals and I'm talking, people say, it sounds like you're talking directly to me and there are 20,000 people. Well, I'm sure you experienced that as well.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And so as you well know, we don't experience life. We experience the life we focus on. In every moment, what's wrong is always available, so is what's right. And it's not positive thinking, it's about intelligence. If you're in a lousy state, you don't treat people better, you don't perform better, you're obviously not happier.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Well, it's because there's only so many patterns, but I care so deeply. I'm looking, I'm feeling, I'm talking directly to people, but I'm also watching. Because if you watch your audience, there's waves. There's a person there that when they change the leg and flip over, four other people do, right? And I start seeing the movements of the audience and I go, okay, boom, I'm going after this guy.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Because when I get him, I got 10 people.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
oh yeah so you can identify the people who trigger that yes yes and it's not always who you think it would be like there might be some strapping you know guy like you know an athlete a guy that comes in that's an NFL player and people might be looking at everything else but they're not influenced by him and then there's this young lady right here and she moves or this mom and she moves and there's 20 people that seem to adjust I've never noticed that it's a fun thing to notice it just it also makes you makes me stay so awake because I have to be right here not in here
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And that's why you can sustain engagement and sustain joy and excitement and everything else. We're moving their bodies. We're completely connected. They're altering their own physiology and biochemistry, and they're focusing on what matters most to them, not to you. And they're learning tools there's consequence to, and they get to feel the consequence in real time. So the chances of falling up.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So I call it e-cubing. First, entertain them. that educate them with the best tools. So I don't just say, oh, here's how you're going to do financially. I go out and I interview 50 of the smartest financial people on earth and I teach them their strategy. And they're like, oh my God, or like, you know, everybody wants to do well financially and they have more freedom.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Well, anyone get their compounding, right? You can take a child, 19 year old and say, put $300 aside. Sounds like a lot, but you're living at home. Put that $300 aside, put it in the market and the S&P, it's averaged 10% over the last 100 years. And guess what? They do that from 19 to 27 and they can stop. They put in $28,000. Their friend starts at 27 when they stop and has to go to 65.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
They put in $140,000. The first guy's got 1.8 million at retirement. The second guy who's putting more money in, he's only got 1.2 in that experience, right? So today, one of my last books was the Holy Grail of Investing. It's like, I don't just teach you the philosophy. Yes, there's the philosophy. How you're going to invest is very important.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I interviewed Ray Dalio, the greatest hedge fund investor in history. And Ray, I asked him at one point a question, I'm always digging for the strategy too, right? Besides the philosophy, I said, what's the single most important investment principle of your life? And he paused and he smiled and we had this great conversation.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So what we teach people is how to shift their focus, how to determine what values at this stage of your life are the ones that are most important to you that will pull you towards what you want. I always look at motivation and I don't like the word motivation, but people overuse it. So I might as well use it because I'm not a motivator. I'm a strategist.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
My interviews were supposed to be 30 minutes and they went three hours because I got so engaged, it was fun. So Ray and I became good friends. But he said, Tony, I'll tell you, there's a holy grail, that's the name of the book, because there's a holy grail of investing. Anytime you can find eight to 12 uncorrelated investments, In other words, stocks and bonds usually are uncorrelated.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
If stocks are going up, bonds are less, vice versa, right? If you can find eight to 12 of those, you reduce your risk by 80% and you increase your upside with nothing else. And I told me this in about a month later, I was at JP Morgan, they do this program at this alternative investment conference, you gotta be a billionaire to go. And I'm one of the speakers and right before me is Ray.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And somebody asked him a very similar question. At least he ended up going back to it and giving the same answer. And I watched all these billionaires who had not taken an ounce of notes drop in their head and write like crazy. So it's like, people don't get this. And they realize it was hard to do. So then here's the strategy part. I'm not just gonna tell you that, I gotta show you how.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And so I had to find out for me. Now you and I are lucky enough and blessed enough that we're done well financially and we have access to a lot of people and I'm sure you're offered the opportunity, but it's like, where do the wealthiest people put their money? Where they're gonna get the most return with the least risk, right?
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
The average person doesn't have access to what they have, private equity. If you look at the last 37 years, 37 years of stock markets all over the world, basic private equity has outstripped every stock market in the world for 37 straight years.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Private equity means they buy private companies, they build them up, they add value, and then they sell the company for a multiple or they take it public for people who don't understand. That's what I mean by private, as opposed to the stock market. Those individuals have more flexibility.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
If you want to see what wealthy people do, 46% of their assets are in private assets, private credit, private equity. Because if you look at the Fortune 400, the wealthiest people in the world, here's the pattern. Which industry has the most billionaires? It's not tech, which is what a lot of people think. It's not real estate. It's financial services.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And it's not hedge funds because they go up and down. It's private equity. So I found this out. You invest your money in the S&P 500, and over the last 37 years, average compounding has been 10.7%, which is really nice. Basic private equity, not the guys I interviewed for this book.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
When I interviewed this book on the Holy Grail, I interviewed the 10, 12 top people in the world, the best guys that have produced returns plus 20% for 25 years compounded. It's unheard of, right? So guess what? S&P is 10.7. Basic private equity, not these guys, have averaged 15.7. So imagine compounding 50% faster per year.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
But I also believe in the power of inspiring people, obviously, and having high energy. But, you know, there's two types of motivation. There's push motivation, as I'm sure you know. That's where you're using willpower and making yourself do it. And, you know, Jordan, you have enormous willpower. My respect for you is through the roof, all that you've dealt with and all that you've done.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
If you put a million dollars in 30 years ago on the S&P, it's worth $42 million today. If you put a million dollars at the same time, same amount of money in private equity, it's worth $223 million if you did basic private equity. So then I go a step further and go, how do I get people in there?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And then I fortunately saw that, right, you probably know there's something called an accredited investor, these levels that the government has where you don't get access to the best investments unless you have a certain amount of money, a million dollars, a certain level of income.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Well, it doesn't make sense because how many business people you know are good business people, but not great investors or someone inherited their money. So they don't have these skills, but they get to do this. They get to have this kind of return. So I was pushing for it. It didn't come from me. It just happened. It's like, why? This is so unfair.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Congress last year decided, why don't we give people a test they can study for? And if they pass the test, they got the education. It's not that complex. Now they can have investments that can grow 50% faster. And so it's available. Then I went a step further. I was like, okay, it's good to know this. It's good to have access to this.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
But the very best of the best, I'm sure you know, they're very hard to get in because it's all sold out in advance. The very top people, the people that produce the greatest returns. So I was ruminating about this with a friend of mine who I'd helped, who was a friend of Paul Tudor Jones.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I've coached, he's one of the top 10 traders in history, and I've coached him for 24 years now, or more than that. But one of his partners broke off and I'd helped him out. He says, Tony, I was saying, you know, I get pieces of these things, but not big enough to make enough of a difference. And I said, I want to help people because there's new rules changing.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And I was like, but I don't even want to talk about it because what little slice are they going to get? It's not going to matter. And he says, Tony, he goes, you've done so much of my life. I got to tell you where I put most of my money. Now I'm perking up. This is a very bright man, right? He goes, there's this place in Houston, Texas, this company.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I'm like, Houston, Texas, not Singapore, not New York, not Connecticut, not London. He goes, yeah, they're off the beaten path. He said, they've discovered a way where you don't invest in these private equity and try to get a little piece of it. where you literally buy a piece of the company and you own all of those and you get the 2% they charge and 20.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So you not only get the compounding I told you about, but you're doing what the wealthiest people in the world do. I said, how the heck do you do that? He goes, I'll show you how it works. Imagine the difference between betting on a horse or owning the racetrack. That's the difference.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Well, now you take that strategy that you instituted and the compounding of what it does, you end up at your goals 10 times faster. So it's not just understanding. It's everything I do has got to be philosophy and strategy. It's one of the things I respect about you. A lot of people teach philosophy and then you understand it. And philosophy helps you to understand the why and have meaning.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And it's shaped who you are because you haven't given up and moved forward. But there is a limit to willpower. I got a lot of willpower too. So, but there's no limit to pull motivation. Pull motivation is where something that you care about more than yourself, something that's a magnificent obsession, something where you're contributing. It could be your kids. It could be your family.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
It's critical. But if you don't have the strategy, you're not going to execute.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And so they know how to do it. They don't know why to do it.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
A lot of the corporate world's like that. And so my world is constantly modeling the best. I'm no idiot. I know most people in the world are not really physically fit. They're not really happy. They're not in a passionate relationship. They're not earning what they think they should earn. That is most people. But there's a few who do.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And I mentioned the few who do versus the many who talk, so I can take their models and bring it to the person who can now be one of the few do also if they choose to. Got it. But then it requires all the things you and I teach, the aim, the piece, the persistence to make that happen.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Sure. You know, it's interesting. I'm used to doing, for most of my lifetime, these big stadium events. And I love doing it. It's fun. And I do it all over the world. And then COVID hits. So, you know, my wife was beautiful. I had a 60th birthday party and I said, I don't want to party. And she said, we're doing a party. We'll do a party with a purpose. So we raised money to help.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
One of our passions is helping kids that have been trafficked. And so we raised $19 million. We put in 5 million, but 14 million for the audience. It was like unbelievable celebration. All my friends there was just great. 3,000, 4,000 people. Three days later, I'm on this high, and I get the call from Newsom's office saying, by the way, this thing has come about.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You can put 100 people in the stadium up here where 14,000 people are planning to come, right? And we still have a few more weeks to market. We can't put 100 people in there. So I'm like you. I'm not a person who gives up. So I was like... We're going to Vegas. They'll never shut down Vegas, right? So sure enough, we moved 14,000 people, Jordan, to go to Vegas.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And about 10 days out, I think it was 11 days out, they shut down Vegas. So I'm like, we're going to Texas. It's its own country. And the governor says, I'm not bending. And a friend of mine has a big church there in Houston, has rent the church. We're going to come there. They shut it down nine days before we got there.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So then they said, movie theaters, you can put 10 people in the movie theater. I said, here's what we'll do. We'll broadcast the movie theaters. They can put 10 people each. They'll have a giant screen. They'll have great music, and they'll still have personal interaction, and they can do it local. We'll make this work, right? Shut down the movie theaters.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So I built the studio, and this relates to the event I'm doing, is... I would never have done this, Jordan, except necessity. That's why I say crisis is one of the greatest gifts in our life, because it produces a necessity for change if you're going to succeed, if you're going to find a way.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And so if you said to me, I'm going to take the energy I have in a stadium and have people do this in their home, in their living room, in their garage, or wherever it is, there's no way. But I had no choice. I want to serve people. So I built a studio, 50-foot high ceilings, 20-foot high LED screens, 50 feet around me, I went to the founder of Zoom and I said, I can't have a thousand people.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
We got to get, and he's a fan of mine, we got to get it to 25,000 people. I made it so that we built some software so that people, instead of clapping, could shake their phone and it sends an electrical signal. Well, if one person does it, you don't hear anything. But when 25,000 people do it, it's just like the stadium. It's like thunder, right? You can feel it. So it's all authentic interacting.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
But all that ties to the aim of your values that move you forward. And so we have a six day process I do called date with destiny. And by the way, if your viewers ever want to get a feel for it, there's a documentary on Netflix called Tony Robbins. I'm not your guru because I'm not here to be your guru, but it'll give you like an hour and 45 minute walkthrough. And it's, Pretty dramatic.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And then I can bring people up on the screen bigger than life. I can see everything. I can see more than if I'm there. And I know their name. People are sitting and I can see them throughout the day as the sun rises and sets because it's 13 hours, right? And I can see somebody there in Australia and I can see what's going on. I see their kid.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I can say, John Smith, what the hell are you doing there sitting on that bed? And they jump up because I got their name. I know where it is. So it actually works incredibly well. And women, some women, The idea of being in a giant audience doesn't feel safe. So for some women, some men, it's actually a better experience for them.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So then I was like, okay, I want to help people with this, but they're not going to do this. People are stuck in their homes. you know, I can't just sit here, we gotta do something. I'm fine business-wise, financially, that's not it, it's my mission. So I said, let's do a seminar where there's no cost.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Let's do a seminar where there's no travel, because usually people fly to another country to meet me and go to an event. There's no expense for a hotel, none of that stuff. And still immersion, but not enough that freaks them out. We'll do like three hours a day for three days or four days in a row. and let's do it in their homes and see what we can pull off. First year we had 343,000 people.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I would have had it done 16 stadiums, right? The next year went to 700. This last year was 1.2 million people that attended from every country in the world. Now here's what happens. It's free. It's not partially free. It's totally free. My only request is since you got it for nothing, I need you vested. I want you to do an assignment each night that shows you're acting on this.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
and put a little video or description here on YouTube or on, what do you call it, on social media, on Facebook. And then I'm up all night, Jordan, because I get so inspired by all these different people and their stories. But then I get to see someone and call them the next day. So I'll give you an example. There's a guy there named Matt. I just saw him recently.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
700 pounds he would never make it to a seminar because he's in bed for six years with oxygen mask on he's told he'll never live without the oxygen mask he can't get up to go to the bathroom it's all through a tube but it's free and it's on a screen so he decides to attend the seminar right he gets so inspired and he he did some of the exercise i asked so i saw it the night before so i call him bring him up to interact with him and we start to put together a plan because think about it it's
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
It's the hero's journey. You know the hero's journey better than anybody, right? You have this ordinary life and you get that call to adventure. It could sound like cancer. It could sound like your business is shut down by COVID. It could be a relationship ending. It doesn't sound like a call to adventure, but that's what it is. Well, the call to adventure happens, and as you know,
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Most people don't take the calls. They have to take more hits. So they have to take the call. And then you go on the journey and you meet new people, new friends, and you meet new mentors. And you get past the point of no return where you have to go forward and then you do battle. And eventually you slay your dragons.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You come home the hero of your own life and you have something real to give people because you've lived it. It's not just book knowledge. And then as soon as you're done, it happens again. You're challenged again. So I look at it this way. Instead of waiting for life to show up, I say, have a way to measure, are you on the path? Here's how you know if you're on the path.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And the name of it again? Tony Robbins, I'm Not Your Guru. It's on Netflix. And you see me deal with people that are suicidal and turning them around. And then you see us follow up four years later. So you see it last because most people wouldn't think it lasts if you can make a change that quickly. So how does that relate to the study?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
First question, you and I'd be so aligned on this. What is your deepest desire now? Let's awaken that. Let's find the reasons for it. What do you want now? Because desire sets the tone of the story. Is my desire to serve God? Is my desire to build a family? Is my desire to... Whatever it is, you know that sets the tone. So we activate that.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Then the second step that we take you through is face the truth. which is what has stopped you in the past? And Jordan, I found relatively, there's only a few things, maybe five. It's like fear. That's why he didn't do it. Or it's a limiting belief or story. All the good ones are gone. I've tried everything. It's not true, but you believe it, so you don't act on it.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Or it could be a different emotion. It could be an emotion like overwhelm, stress, something of that nature that keeps you moving forward. Or it could be a habit. You want to lose 30 pounds, but you go to Starbucks and get a smoke and milk or whatever every morning. It's not going to work. Or you're missing a skill. You just don't know how to manage it.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
No one taught you what to do in those areas, right? So there's only a few things. So once you have enough driving desire and reasons and you take on the path, you're on the path now, you know what you want. Second step to keep on the path is knowing what's prevented you. Next step is build a map, a massive action plan. Not a perfect plan.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Just what are the two or three things that'll get you momentum? What can you do right now? What's it gonna do that's difficult? What can you do that's easy? Start with the easy one, then go to the difficult one. I personally like to go with the difficult one first. You do whatever your style is. You go with the most difficult one you're likely to manage. Yes, I agree with you.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
It's your most certainty that you can still find the way. And then step four is you got to do the hard work. You got to slave the dragons. You got to actually get the skill. You got to push through whatever that limiting belief or fear is. Once you've done that, the rest is easy. Now all you need is a daily practice like priming.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And by the way, the priming thing I mentioned, if your audience wants to go there, there's no charge for it. You can go to TonyRobbins.com forward slash priming, and there's a video that shows you how to do it if you want to do that little 10-minute practice. Okay. We'll put that in the links. That'd be great. But regardless, you now have some daily practices that keep you on the target.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Then you measure ruthlessly because you can't manage something you don't measure. That's the biggest problem in most businesses, right? You know, it's like, I'm fortunate enough now, I have literally 114 companies who do $9 billion in business and I have no business background, only self-educated by studying the best. The patterns are the same. I see what the patterns are, right?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Well, two professors, as I understand it, we were approached by Stanford. And they said, two of our professors had come here. They were clinically depressed and they're off medication. And all they did was go to this six-day program. We don't understand it. Do you have data on this? And I said, sure, I've got millions of testimonials. And somebody said, no, no, no, scientific data.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So now you measure, And then you celebrate. And then just like another one, you start over again. Oh, what's my next desire? So while they're with us, we show them how to increase their energy, what to do to shape their relationship, what to do to shape their career. Three hours a day. It's like going to a movie, but the movie's your life.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
They can go to, it's called the Time to Rise Summit. So it's timetorisesummit.com. And when is it? And it's coming up January 30th, 31st, and February 1st. We do this once a year. Okay, and this is all online. They can access it online.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And they only see it, but they can experience it, they can do it, and they can put a plan together for this year.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Yeah, we're in your basement tonight, today, which is really quite fun. We're actually in a place that's underwater. We have ocean on this side, intercoastal on this side, and I started playing squash, and my friends, I had to go drive 20 minutes, and if you're nice, it's 20 minutes of pictures. So it's a couple hours to work out, and it was like, I need a place.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And they said, well, you got 25,000 square feet, several acres, but there's no place to put it. I said, we're doing it down here. And he said, what do you mean down here? He goes, it's below the water table. I said, have you ever been to Atlantis? Have you ever been to Scripps Oceanography? And they said, yeah. I said, build a submarine around it, whatever we got to do to make it airtight.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
So we literally are underwater with a submarine surface around us. And we've got 7,000 square feet and we've got bowling alleys and all the things for kids and grandkids.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You guys, I got Tom Brady, Ray Dalio, like come in here, everybody becomes a kid when they come down.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And I want to make sure fun is part of life. You know, I'm a serious mofo. I want to change the world, but I created a structure that creates fun as well.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I said, no, that's not been my focus. My focus is just get results for people. But if you want to do one, I'm open to it. What would you like to study? And they said, well, right now is the middle of COVID. And they said, you know, depression is through the roof, suicide's through the roof, overdoses are through the roof. I said, I know.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
It's such a pleasure. Thanks to all your viewers and listeners for watching and taking the time.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Looks like it's just you and me. It's not just you and me.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And they said, we'd love to test this non-pharmacological approach to it that you have and see what it really produces, because this seems miraculous. And I said, well, it's not miraculous. It's just rewiring the way in which people perceive their world. If I'm going to go do the Dakar race where I'm gonna go, you know, 9,000 miles to the Sahara desert.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You can't take the car you're currently running and expect it, and you're gonna die in the desert. You need to have that car re-engineered. So for example, the exhaust can get above the sand. Well, we help people re-engineer and we don't tell them what to do. We show them how to re-engineer themselves so they have their own autonomy and ownership.
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And I said, but tell me something, if we're gonna study this, what do the medical studies show? And the meta studies show that they said that 60% of the people who come for treatment, whether it's drugs or therapy or both, 60% make no improvement. That's the average. 40% improve overall. The average improvement is 50%. So I said, so they're half as depressed as they were?
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
They said, yes, some people get well, but most people are on drugs for the rest of their lives. And I said, you can almost do that with a placebo. And the guy had a nervous laugh and he said, well, yeah, maybe. I said, well, I said, I'm sure it sounds like hubris, but I said, just based on history, I'm sure we'll do better than that.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
I said, what's the best study of all psychiatry you've ever seen in terms of wiping out these symptoms? And at the time they said there was a study done at Johns Hopkins, you're probably familiar with it, five years ago, where for a month they gave people psilocybin, magic mushrooms, and cognitive therapy. And they said the results were the greatest in the history of psychiatry.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
At the end of six weeks, it was their evaluation, that group had 54% of the people had no symptoms whatsoever of depression. I said, well, that's a great standard. I said, I'd like to see us beat that. I said, again, it doesn't sound, sounds like hubris. It sounds like maybe arrogance. I'm not coming from that place. I just think our numbers will be significantly higher, but we'll see.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
you design the program. So they designed it. And as you said, they had a separate group that was just like they did for Johns Hopkins, you know, test group that didn't have my work. They had gratitude journaling. They did various other things. And the results were beyond their imagination.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
At the end of six weeks, after just going through seminar, no drugs, no one-on-one therapy, just the rewiring for themselves, 93% of them had no symptoms whatsoever. It's nothing like it has ever been done. And they published it in the journal. It's like,
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517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Yes, yeah. And 7% of the people still improved, but they didn't completely eliminate their symptoms. But here's the best part. 19% came in with suicidal ideation, zero suicidal ideation afterwards, which is what I've seen over and over, over the decades. So they followed up a year later and they found 52% increase in positive emotions, 71% decrease in negative emotions. A year later. A year later.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And now they've done additional studies. They just did a one-year study with 1,500 people. So you can appreciate this.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
It's like the biggest study you can imagine. 750 in each group. And this one is on engagement in business and in life because... Right now, since COVID, the engagement levels have gone through the floor. You're probably familiar with it. They have three measurements. One is, you know, are you engaged? And engagement equals EBITDA or equals profit in companies.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
You can see a direct relationship, right? Then there's those that are disengaged. That would be what people started calling quiet quitting, where they're doing the minimum they need to. And then there's actively disengaged, which is actually people who are angry and they're just trying to hurt the company when they stay there as well.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
Since COVID, the drop in engagement is the biggest drop in the history of any form of measurement around the world. In addition, the largest increase is in active disengagement.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
That's right. They were angry. And so they did a group, and they haven't published it. It'll come out shortly, but I can give you the broad strokes of it that I'm so excited about is they eliminated all of the disengagement that had been driven by four years of isolation in six days.
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins
And then the best part was without any more interaction with me every month, imagine for a year, they increased in their engagement. Oh, really? Because what's happened is now the hunger is awakened in them. They now have a sense of control over their own life. Same authors or different group?
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 202: Kyle Dunnigan & Blair Socci
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We Might Be Drunk
Ep 202: Kyle Dunnigan & Blair Socci
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We Might Be Drunk
Ep 202: Kyle Dunnigan & Blair Socci
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Ep 202: Kyle Dunnigan & Blair Socci
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Ep 202: Kyle Dunnigan & Blair Socci
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Ep 202: Kyle Dunnigan & Blair Socci
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