Habits and Hustle
Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Tue, 08 Apr 2025
Have you ever wondered how someone goes from juvenile detention to flying in helicopters to save time? In this episode of the Habits and Hustle podcast, I talk with Dan Martell as he shares his incredible journey from troubled teen to wildly successful business leader. We discuss Dan's story of redemption and his strategies for reclaiming your time, building wealth, and creating a life of purpose. We also dive into how his morning routine, fitness transformation, and media company creation all stem from the same core principles. Dan Martell is an entrepreneur, best-selling author of "Buy Back Your Time," and one of the most sought-after executive coaches in the software industry. Overcoming a troubled youth that included addiction and juvenile detention, Martell transformed his life through technology and personal development, building and selling three successful tech companies and investing in over 60 startups including billion-dollar ventures like Hootsuite and Intercom. What We Discuss: (05:50) From Addiction to Multimillionaire (16:32) Transitioning From Amateur to Pro Media (22:19) Building a Media Company Playbook (28:44) Content Creation Strategies for Growth (36:47) Unapologetic Wealth and Personal Growth (42:09) Journey of Personal Growth and Transformation (48:59) Optimizing Fitness Routine for Success (56:49) Maximizing Time Efficiency and Outsourcing Tasks …and more! Thank you to our sponsors: Therasage: Head over to therasage.com and use code Be Bold for 15% off TruNiagen: Head over to truniagen.com and use code HUSTLE20 to get $20 off any purchase over $100. Magic Mind: Head over to www.magicmind.com/jen and use code Jen at checkout. Air Doctor: Go to airdoctorpro.com and use promo code HUSTLE for up to $300 off and a 3-year warranty on air purifiers. Bio.me: Link to daily prebiotic fiber here, code Jennifer20 for 20% off. Momentous: Shop this link and use code Jen for 20% off Find more from Jen: Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen Books: https://www.jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagement Find more from Dan Martell: Website: https://www.danmartell.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/annie.sarnblad/
Chapter 1: Who is Dan Martell and what is his background story?
Chapter 2: How did Dan Martell transition from addiction to becoming a multimillionaire?
and you're speaking my love language at the end of the day and tries and if she can't she can't and i just literally i stay out of it it's kind of funny because like people like even my friend damon that flew down this morning with me on my plane he goes like what are you doing today and i was like well i know who i'm going to talk to but i don't know like what the order is and he's like well how do you not know and i go because ann manages she literally 100 of my calendar is managed by somebody else
Okay, but how did you get to this place? So like walk me through your life because in all transparency, I really had no clue who you were. Yeah. And then our friend, I guess our mutual friend introduced us.
We have like a, like I went through your pod, listened to your stuff, know your background quite well, love the books, the concepts. My wife actually loves your stuff.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah. Just the idea of Strong is the New Skinny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my old book.
I know, but she loved that one. I love it. And I saw the new bold one. But my background is kind of crazy because if you went back and met the 15-year-old version of Dan, you would meet a very angry, dark, drug addict, criminal. Because you were in jail, I saw. Yeah, I ended up in juvenile detention twice by the time I was 16, 17.
For what?
Everything. I mean, I got in trouble from shoplifting to assault to drug related charges to stealing a car, high speed chase. I mean, things that I was pretty ashamed of for a really long time.
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Chapter 3: What motivated Dan to move to Silicon Valley and start investing in startups?
So I started at 17 in business, self-taught programmer, trying to build apps, websites, things. And then when I was 24, I hired a business coach, this guy named Bob. He was an e-myth coach. If you ever read that book, I was like,
No, what is it called?
The E-Myth was written by a guy named Michael Gerber. And I read it, and it was just this idea of building systems. And I was like, OK, I've tried business twice by myself. Clearly, I'm not good at this thing. I can't do the same thing over and over, because that's the definition of insanity. So I get this book and hired this coach.
And within the first year of trying, we did almost a million in revenue. Wow. It blew my brain wide open. And it taught me habits. It taught me vision. It taught me. I mean, one of the first exercise he asked me to do was to write my eulogy. Can you imagine, at 23, 24 years old, sitting down
When you talk about begin with the end in mind, that was the most eye-opening, clearing, aligning exercise I could ever do. And that company, I think I became a cash millionaire at 27, so three years later, and then sold that when I was 28 and became a multimillionaire.
When you say multimillionaire, are we talking $2 million? Are we talking $20 million?
I was closer to like $7 or $8. And you were 27 at that time. 28 when I exited. 27 when I made cash. That's like cash in the bank.
A lot of people say they're millionaires, but. It means nothing. I know. They're not. I want to know the, like, the.
Yeah. And I mean, so what's crazy is you, like, go there at 28. Again, I'm 44. And then I just, I've always been a builder. Sometimes hardheaded, sometimes incredibly dumb, emotional, not smart. I just never stopped. And even moments where I took two years off to chill out, I was still angel investing. I was doing other stuff.
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Chapter 4: How did Dan Martell build his network and reputation in the tech industry?
Which ones did you invest in?
HootSuite was early. So that was a billion dollar company today. Intercom, so it's a messaging app. Getaround that competed against Turo. I've done, I mean, 60 is what's reported. It's more like 100 now.
But I mean- And how much were you giving each? Like 25,000, 100,000? No, more like 100. Yeah, 100K each. And were you kind of getting those opportunities by the network that you were meeting?
So nobody knew me. So until recently, like you said, how did I never hear about you? Because I was just behind the scenes. I was networking. I read a book called Never Eat Alone. And I did what it said.
Oh, I love that book.
Yeah, Keith Rossi. I just did what he said. Organize meals, invite people to it.
Never eat alone. You should never eat lunch alone.
I would organize daily Canadian entrepreneur lunches. We would all have burritos in the Mission in San Francisco. And I put on some weight eating too many Mexican burritos. That was, in hindsight, not a smart move for my health, but... a great way to just have a place as people emailed me and wanted to meet up or I was meeting people I can invite them to.
And I met hundreds and I wasn't trying to start anything. So it was kind of fun for me. I moved there and I didn't know a soul. I almost went home after three weeks because the truth is, San Francisco specifically, they don't like people that aren't from there. Like if you didn't go to Berkeley or Stanford or you're like, they were like, who are you? What are you trying to get from?
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Chapter 5: What is Dan Martell's approach to media and content creation?
Five years total, beginning to the end. But what changed for me, and everybody listening can take this lesson, was I cold emailed, I saw a blog post on TechCrunch's tech site, and it said, here are the 100 most influential CEOs and online bloggers, tweeters, all that stuff. And I cold emailed every one of them. And I just asked them questions about like, I'm new to the city.
I'm trying to get to know people. Here's my skill set. What do you recommend I do with this? This like three sentences. And it was Paul Graham, the founder of Y Combinator, which today incubated Dropbox and Airbnb and all these luminary tech companies. He replied, and most didn't. And he said, all startups need help with marketing. Help them with that.
And I said, oh, next day I go to Ritual Roast, this little coffee shop on Valencia Street in the Mission. And first person I meet, they go, what do you do? And I say, well, help start us with marketing. And he's like, I'm a startup. Help me. And I was like, game on. So I went three weeks with people not talking to me, ignoring me. I remember calling my brother, like, this city sucks.
People aren't very nice. I'm used to Canadians.
Yeah. That's right.
And the truth was is nobody knew what I did. And I think a lot of people go through life and don't know how to explain what they do. And then they confuse people and they wonder why opportunities don't come to them. So now I'm very clear. I wrote a book called Buy Back Your Time. People ask me, what do you do? Doesn't matter.
All the other stuff you talked about, if somebody asked me, they see me driving around, they go, what do you do? I go, I wrote a book. That's it.
Keep it simple, stupid.
It's so clear. And then people go, oh, okay. Well, if you're driving that car, you wrote that book. I might want to read it. Or you flew in on your plane. Maybe I should read the book. Cool. Read the book. And then in there, they get to know who I am.
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Chapter 6: How did Dan build Martell Media and what is its purpose?
So the big thing, if you want to know, Jen, because people want to know the how, you got to understand, I just decided to stop treating marketing like a marketing department and instead decided to build a media company. And that was the difference. And I call it the difference between going from amateur to pro.
And I know a lot of people that say they wanna have a lot of impact and help a lot of people, but they're still acting like amateurs. And I used to brag about it. I used to be like, I shoot all my YouTube videos for a whole quarter in two days a month. And I switch my shirts and I batch everything. And I have these scripts and dah, dah.
And then I'm wondering like, why are all these other people growing? And my videos would get 2000, 3000 views and I wouldn't add any subscribers. So that's how I used to do it for a very long time. And what changed was the decision of, really just going all in on media.
But because I realized everything that I wanted to accomplish in my life, and at that point, on the backside of two things would be 10 times easier, 100 times easier. And that was reputation, which luckily, I had a good reputation. Problem was the second part, which is reach. Nobody knew who I was. And growing up, Keith Ferrazzi's book, Never Eat Alone, you hear it's who you know.
Chapter 7: What strategies does Dan use for optimizing content performance and growth?
that can solve problems for you. And I don't disagree. That's actually a really important point. Turns out it's who knows you even more important, right? And if you're creating content, we live in this beautiful world that I didn't grow up in. What happens on social media today and the power of this phone and these platforms, I didn't have that growing up.
You couldn't follow billionaires on social media and watch how they interacted and they taught you stuff for free. That's crazy. And I just thought, you know what? I always ask myself, what scares me? And the thought of going pro on that, I was already rich. I was already successful. I didn't need to do that. But it also gave me the most anxiety.
And oftentimes, I always look at what things or decisions give me the most, ugh. And I go, OK, that's what I have to do. So it's kind of like whatever scares me the most is almost like the prioritization method. And then the book is really what started it, though. So the book came out last January 17. My publisher said, if you sold 4,000 copies, that'd be really cool. Sold 20,000.
It's now number one book in entrepreneurship, time management, and small business in the world. Sells more copies every week than the previous week. People in the publishing world says that's a pretty good thing.
Who's your publisher?
Penguin Random House. And I'm a person of faith. And I had this moment. So it comes out in January. And it's probably April or May that I realized I've been asking God for this gift my whole life. And I wasn't going to just ignore it. I almost ignored it. I honestly almost decided to keep building my businesses and not support the book, not support the message, not do the thing.
Because again, it was scary. I didn't want to. I remember I talked to my wife. I was like, I think I'm going to go all in. She's like, what does that mean? The thing, the thing, like, you know, the Gary V thing and the Hermosi thing and all these people thing. I think I'm going to go do that. And she's like, well, you're not doing that in my house. And I'm like, okay, that's fair.
And I called up my buddy Sam, and he lived back on the other side of the world at that time. And I said, I think I'm going to go and build a media company, Martel Media. I'm going to go all in. I'm going to shift my whole life. I literally thought, OK, this is where I'm at, and this is my priority. I'm going to do this. And I said, if you want to be part of this, I need you in my hometown.
I need you. We're going to build a studio. We're going to do this. We're going to do the thing. I don't know what it is. I just know two things. I look at my calendar, and I look at my bank account. So if somebody tells me, like, my family's important to me, that's cool that you said that. Show me. Those are the two things I need to see.
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Chapter 8: How does Dan structure his media team and manage production costs?
So it's called Martell Media, and we don't produce anything for anybody else. It's all my own content, which is kind of bananas. We have an equipment room that's got more stuff. I'm like, what is all this? Like gimbals and drones and da-da-da-da-da. And Sam's convincing me that we need all this stuff. And I'm like, okay. No, I'm kidding. We do use it.
No, it's fascinating.
Yeah, no, we shoot contents on scooters. I mean, we have mounts for things, car content. I mean, we just, and again, do I know what I'm doing? No. Do I have a process for figuring things out? Sure do. What's the process? Process is you have to try a bunch of things that feel 100% aligned and authentic to you.
And if something hits, you have to figure out what the format is and you got to lock in the format. So what a lot of people in the content world that are not, because if you don't do enough volume, you don't have to do this because it's not a priority. And you can just try a bunch of stuff. But all the best people, and I would say Mr. Beast is always at the top.
If you actually look at his videos, and he's talked about this in these nerdy producer type conversations with different YouTube channels. But essentially, he realized that there's these formats that work for his audience. And then he takes that format and he figures out all the variations. And for example, we'll spend 60% of our effort just on the packaging of a YouTube video.
What does that mean? It means the concept, the title, the thumbnails. Let's add some S's to that. Split testing. We're talking first 30. We go literally one second, three second, 10 second, 30 second. And it's not like, oh, I like this, I put it. No, it is, and it's tested and retention, and we're looking at the analytics. It's just deciding if you wanna get fit. It's same thing.
To the degree that you measure with more precision, you will have the feedback to be able to improve your situation. People that are struggling with their health, it's because they don't measure anything. They don't measure their sleep, they don't measure their weight, they don't measure their food, they don't measure anything. I learned, hey, macros, you got to focus on them.
Workout intensity and progressive overload, and you got to track your workouts, all these things. So it's like, I just applied the same concept from software just to media. And again, surround yourself with people that do it. So we built a network around Sam. We hired great talent, consultants, agencies, and-
Do you have a lot of outside agencies who work with you? No.
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