Mike Ryan
Appearances
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Nick Turturro's Yankees Fan Rage With David Samson And Michael Kay
Hey everybody, it's Mike Ryan and I'm super excited to talk to you about Roan. This is a great company. I was introduced to them a couple years ago. I thought everything that they made was super comfy and looked great and now they're aboard and I'm wearing one of their shirts right now and I'm getting so many compliments on it. As seasons change, so should your wardrobe.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Nick Turturro's Yankees Fan Rage With David Samson And Michael Kay
Roan's commuter collection combines comfort, versatility, and breathability with premium pants, shirts, quarter zips, polos, and blazers. Each piece is made from Roan's signature stretch fabrics.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Nick Turturro's Yankees Fan Rage With David Samson And Michael Kay
with wrinkle release and anti-odor technology keeping you fresh and polished all day with gold fusion anti-odor technology enjoy more wears between washes designed to coordinate effortlessly and let us talk about the freshness because this is a big one especially living down here in south florida for me they make it easy with machine washability and collars that maintain their shape for life i cannot tell you how huge that is the commuter collections wrinkle release technology works as hard as you do making every piece perfectly packable for travel
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Nick Turturro's Yankees Fan Rage With David Samson And Michael Kay
The commuter collection can get you through any workday and straight into whatever comes next. Head to Roan.com slash DLS and use a promo code DLS to save 20% off your entire order. That's 20% off your entire order when you head to Roan.com slash DLS. When you head to R-H-O-N-E dot com slash DLS and use code DLS. It's time to embody your most confident self.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Nick Turturro's Yankees Fan Rage With David Samson And Michael Kay
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. Or bottle whatever your preference.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Nick Turturro's Yankees Fan Rage With David Samson And Michael Kay
Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. You'll take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Nick Turturro's Yankees Fan Rage With David Samson And Michael Kay
Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. Simple ingredients. like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors in the iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975, and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings? Tastes like Miller time!
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Nick Turturro's Yankees Fan Rage With David Samson And Michael Kay
Go to MillerLight.com to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Dirk Nowitzki And Stump The Meech
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. Or bottle whatever your preference.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Dirk Nowitzki And Stump The Meech
Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. Take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible. Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Dirk Nowitzki And Stump The Meech
It hits different than other light beers. Simple ingredients. It's like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors in the iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975 and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings? Tastes like Miller time. Go to MillerLight.com slash stand to find delivery options near you.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Dirk Nowitzki And Stump The Meech
Or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Dirk Nowitzki And Stump The Meech
Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. or bottle whatever your preference.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Dirk Nowitzki And Stump The Meech
Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. You'll take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Dirk Nowitzki And Stump The Meech
Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. Simple ingredients like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors in the iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975 and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings? Tastes like Miller time! Go to MillerLight.com to find delivery options near you.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Dirk Nowitzki And Stump The Meech
Or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
We do all look the same. Oh, God damn. Oh, no. Guys, all right, relax. I slipped up.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
I care more about Matthew Kachuk than I do my daughter.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
He's a mega star. Internet chat agrees.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
thank you oh god um so like i i think that was that was very well said by you but here in like the american sports lexicon you describe somebody being soft so i can go on like a three minute soliloquy describing exactly why somebody's soft or i can just label them soft which is a lot easier more efficient and it's why steven a smith is going to command 150 million dollars it's
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
It's amazing. I couldn't hear what you said, but just thank you for the compliment.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Balance.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Alrighty.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Needs more Taylor.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
I'm a VIP. You a VIP? Always.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Wow. What is happening around here? It's the AMI thing. Like that ami sound. It's a tricky one. That is the lamest of excuses.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
No, it's just efficiency. I've got to fit it in 140 characters, and I can't fit what you said in 140 characters. And to Dan, I understand what you're doing, and this is a great discussion, but I think even you would concede, when you watch the Ravens versus the Steelers, let me take this example out to the extreme. You can see it, right? It looks different. Those teams look more physical.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
That's all that's happening. I'm just an out-and-out racist. Out in the open, that's what we need.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
My card is on the table, and it's a race card.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Yeah, American Psycho.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
There's genetics. There's genetics. Some people don't have to work out. I have my friend College Mike. That guy drinks a lot of beer.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
That can't be. He also doesn't eat for joy. He just eats for fuel.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
I'm going to have my friend College Mike send me a pic.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
The game looks more violent. Those teams look tougher.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Yeah. No, I often look at people that take care of their bodies, and I'm like, they're the problem.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
I got it right. That person is clearly a psycho.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Yeah. You mean like leathery skin. Cushion for the pushing you're talking about.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
He basically said Zagaki afterwards, though.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Mine were so good. Why'd you do this?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
tough yeah well i i pose this question to diana like have you considered that there's a correlation they're a good defense because they're also very tough like diana like are there good defenses usually that's the ingredient mike you're you're you are spot on like the ingredient
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
You're not
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
I love this show because this is a great segment on mental health. This is a photo of my friend College Mike's abs. He doesn't work out really at all. He drinks a lot of beer. He's a great hang. But look, you see that? Let's get rid of that lower third right there. Let's see these abs pop there. This guy's just gifted. He has an ab. No, no, no. That's six.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
I counted six. Maybe it's the lighting in there. But Dan, you can see this guy has abs and he doesn't really care about taking care of his body.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Really? Yeah. I mean, there's the definition. Dan, your thoughts?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. Or bottle whatever your preference.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. Take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible. Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
It hits different than other light beers. Simple ingredients. like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors in the iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975, and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings? Tastes like Miller time!
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Go to MillerLight.com to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Miles came back in that game. But also, my problem with Joel Embiid is not that he's just like this unfortunate dude that gets injuries. I think I can understand that concept. I'm a huge Chelsea fan. Rhys James, hammy's cooked. He's going to try to run out there. He's going to pull his hammy. That's just his body type. I resent Joel Embiid because of his style of play.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
He's flopping around, his lack thereof when it comes to conditioning. And also, I resent him for avoiding injury when he's perfectly fine in a suit on the bench. I want to see Joel Embiid go out there and eventually get hurt.
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The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
But they're still one of the best places to work in New Jersey, according to a franchise source.
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The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
It's unfortunate that Diana had to go because this is a bad week for the Jets, and I still think the saddest story about all of this is we all know openly, Diana's reported on it, Bill Belichick has opened disdain for Woody Johnson, hates the New York Jets, right? Did you read the report that Bill Belichick circled around to the Jets? before he took the North Carolina job. Hey, this is your shot.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
That, to me, is the saddest detail around the Bill Belichick stuff, and it's not him just lurking in the background as he signs a player from Holy Cross.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Hey everybody, it's Mike Ryan, and I'm super excited to talk to you about Roan. This is a great company. I was introduced to them a couple years ago. I thought everything that they made was super comfy and looked great, and now they're aboard, and I'm wearing one of their shirts right now, and I'm getting so many compliments on it. As seasons change, so should your wardrobe.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Roan's commuter collection combines comfort, versatility, and breathability with premium pants, shirts, quarter zips, polos, and blazers. Each piece is made from our own signature stretch fabrics with wrinkle release and anti-odor technology, keeping you fresh and polished all day. With Gold Fusion anti-odor technology, enjoy more wears between washes, designed to coordinate effortlessly.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
And let us talk about the freshness, because this is a big one, especially living down here in South Florida for me.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
they make it easy with machine washability and collars that maintain their shape for life i cannot tell you how huge that is the commuter collections wrinkle release technology works as hard as you do making every piece perfectly packable for travel the commuter collection can get you through any work day and straight into whatever comes next
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)
Head to Roan.com slash DLS and use a promo code DLS to save 20% off your entire order. That's 20% off your entire order when you head to Roan.com slash DLS. When you head to R-H-O-N-E dot com slash DLS and use code DLS. It's time to embody your most confident self.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
He doesn't own any part of it. Can we spoil? It's been years now. We can spoil what happened to the last Bond, right? Of course.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
All right, spoiler alert for people that haven't watched the last Bond. James Bond is dead.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
He died. 007, that is. Yeah. He comes back. No, 007's still around. See, that's right.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
No, that's a title. That's a title. Yeah, no. James Bond. Bond, James Bond. Dead. I don't really know how they come back from this one.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Yeah, the Demeter, or is it Demeter? Either way, there was a whole bad movie made on just that ship voyage, which is super frustrating because I'm like, guys, look for it during the day. All these bad things are happening at night. It's right, like it's a ship. You're not covering a lot of ground. Just look for it during the day. We all know where all this stuff is coming from.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
There's dirt everywhere coming from these caskets. Guys are missing. Just look for it during the day.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Take it out of preview. Here's the new Bond. You know, he did the reverse Belichick. His partner is a much older woman.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
This dude is having his moment right now.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
I think much more than four or five. You've got Connery, Moore, Daltrey. Frazier. Dalton. Dalton. Not Roger Daltrey. Timothy Dalton.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
There was one more 007 because for a moment, 007 is assumed by another person in the last one. So there have been more 007s than James Bonds.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
How do you get the jokes without... I've played GoldenEye.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
That's a great question, Mike.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
You should watch James Bond to really unlock this movie, because I know you like it. I still thought it was funny.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
You know my concept for where to take the James Bond franchise since he's now dead? You go back in time. You take the source material and you do period pieces from when those books were written. Noir.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Who's been bigger at the box office? Because James Bond has more films. But let's look it up. James Bond versus the MI franchise.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
the 60s mission impossible took a long break between the 60s all the bonds have been relatively relevant through what is it six seven decades now i think i would take jurassic park over it i would take potentially star wars for sure lord of the rings has more meat on that bone harry potter i'd probably take it over james bond i watched dune the other night not there yet but they're starting to spin that baby off
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
I wasn't a big Dune guy, cinematically. Do you like Timothee Chalamet? You know, I wanted to like Dune, but I just didn't. Didn't everybody love him on college game day? I feel like he smelled good there. Oh, yeah. No, I think he might actually know ball. Or he really prepared for this role. He was probably the best guest picker in ages. He was phenomenal.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
He invoked MAACtion, which right then and there... And he was right, by the way.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Yeah, but was he running lines?
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Exactly. That's usually not something that's afforded to a 28-year-old man. especially appearing on one of cable TV's most popular sports shows.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Did you see the news, the casting news regarding Austin Butler?
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
I am not happy about this. Dan, I know you like American Psycho. It's one of my favorite films. Top five film for me. One of the greatest dark comedies ever made. Don't touch it. But they're remaking it. Or a new spin on an old classic. Austin Butler has been cast as Patrick Bateman, according to reports. I don't like this one.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
That part's not true.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
He's been doing the Elvis accent since he did the movie. He was forced to stop, actually.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
The last act.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
But, Tony, I have a question for you. Okay. Do you think Austin Butler straddles the line between genius and hack the way that Walken and Nicolas Cage did? Because I kind of think he's bordering on bad actor. So bad that he's good? That he's becoming a bit of a caricature of himself, and you don't do that in your 20s. I guarantee you, here's my bold prediction for Austin Butler.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Ten years from now, he's going to make an appearance that will revitalize his career in a comedy where he pokes fun at himself because he's just become too outrageous a human.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Busey, Cage, Walken. These are the guys. Good job invoking Busey. He belongs in that class.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
He's straddling the line. He's straddling the line. It's a very thin line. Look, it's gone. We've seen Nick Cage straddle the line and go well over the line and become a punchline. This guy's crazy. It's like Bad Lieutenant. It's because he needed the money. Oh, a lie! It's a long list, Anno.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
No. The sequel was a sequel. The first one was great. I just don't like the Austin Butler casting either as Patrick Bateman. You can play one of the other ancillary roles. Give him Thoreau's role. No, don't give him Patrick Bateman.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
That dude from Euphoria and Saltburn, that should be Patrick Bateman. Barry Keane? No, Lordy.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
A million times better, and Austin Butler actually kills that assignment.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
If Hateful Eight was made by somebody else, I don't think we'd give it this much of a runway.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
You would have been like, this might just be bad. Not your list. Yep.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Wait a minute. No, he's right. I'm going to go see Taylor.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Exploitation.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
No, he saw Django, the one with action. I saw Django. Django was incredible. He saw the Western with action. Okay, there's a theme here.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Don't sound too excited about it.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Mustard. This is one of the few windows.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Number two, Inglourious Bastards. Probably the best movie Tarantino's ever made. Agreed. We agree there. You had one bad take on Tarantino, but you rallied. That's fine.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Ring cams. Now everyone's got an OnlyFans and they work their own hours.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
I've never seen that. I haven't gotten around to it. I've heard of it. I'd rather watch a Truman Show.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
This concept was done better with Jim Carrey, so I was just moving on.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Mine was way better, right?
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Billy Snobby Dog to everybody. Merry Christmas. Christmas week is upon us. And many of you are hosting family gatherings, having friends over for the holidays, and you're wondering, how do I make this holiday time a special time? Well, you make the holiday time a special time by making it Miller Time.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
That's right, a beer with tastes that you know you can depend on, no games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. You put out the Miller Life, you set it, you forget it, and everybody is all happy during the holiday season. You'll take that first sip, and you'll know right away you made the right call, whether it's around the
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fire pit or around the Cajacina, you know that Miller Lite is going to hit the spot because Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers with simple ingredients like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors and that iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975 and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings tastes like Miller time.
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Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan. Find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs in premium regular beer.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Not in action movies. The keys are always up on that visor, and I don't understand it. Idiots. Where is this? I mean, what kind of life of security must you live? Well, wait a second. Didn't you have your key in your car for like three years? That was a mistake. I had no idea it was there. Yeah, I had a spare key that was in the... Someone could have just walked up to my car and driven it away.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
I don't recall. It might have been in the crack.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
I have no idea what's happening there. He comes out firing. He clearly has some longstanding issue with Shams whenever he reports on Jimmy Butler, I guess, specifically. This was unexpected and you don't really see anybody going at Shams specifically like this.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
All right, listen. And then read.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
People went after Woj a little bit. LeBron's camp would go after Woj through their different avenues. I don't think I've ever really seen anything like this as it pertains to Shams, who once reported before anyone that Donald Trump got COVID.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
But how does this end? Because there needs to be a victor here. If this ends with Jimmy Butler getting traded to one of the teams that Shams outlined before, then that's a whole lot of pomp and circumstance for you to end up being wrong in the end.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
But are we also to ignore what Jimmy did in the offseason? Hey, those purple and gold uniforms look good. We're just going to pretend everything is just kumbaya over here in Miami? This is part of the Jimmy Butler playbook. And this is how he kind of operates, especially when there are seeds or beyond seeds of him outgrowing a place, which has happened several times.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
A lot of people want a lot of things, though. They don't always get what they want, especially when the Miami Heat want a superstar to demand a trade. Look, I want Aaron Taylor Johnson's abs. I'm craving them. I don't even know who that is.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
I'm going to see it Christmas Day night.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
I'm coming out of a casket. Well, sarcophagus. Don't call it a casket because in Nosferatu we don't call it a casket.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
No, no, Nosferatu is not a Satan name. It's the name for the undead, the vampire.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Have you seen Nosferatu? Because no one's really seen him. It's a ship. All you get is just the eyes.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
This is, you know who directed this film? Robert Eggers, the guy that did The Lighthouse. This is his fourth feature film. He did The Vitch. He did The Northman, The Vitch. And he did The Lighthouse, which is a Christmas movie. So this is the most marketing he's ever had behind it. I'm literally wearing a collaboration for a cologne. I'm so hyped for this. Christmas Day night, the cinema.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
It's haunting. Do you want to smell it? It smells like Count Orlok's cave. I can't smell it. It smells okay. Thank you. It does smell like a cave. It does smell like a cave, but a nice cave.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
inviting an inviting cape so basically this is just a remake of the 1922 silent film the seminal german silent film that was basically bram stoker's dracula but without using the names so it's a darker twist on this because the count is actually undead even though it's dracula doesn't go by dracula it goes by orlok and it's supposed to be Incredible. And this is a seminal movie event.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Comes out Christmas Day night. And all the little goth kids and all the little emos and all the little vampy kids are going to be super excited because Eggers always delivers. All four of his films, over 90% on the Rotten Tomatoes meter, including this one.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
What? Nosferatu.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
You haven't seen the 1922 silent film? You're a cinephile. That should be required viewing for anybody.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
I did, and he did, and I watched it last week. And this one, they don't call him Nosferatu or Count Orlok. He's just Dracula, but he looks Nosferatu, like 1922. Now, everybody's got their original names. Lots of rats in that film.
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Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Was that the last voyage of the Demeter? That one stunk. Regardless. In all the Dracula war. That was a 40.
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Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can of Or bottle whatever your preference.
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Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. You'll take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible.
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Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. Simple ingredients. like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors in the iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975, and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings? Tastes like Miller time!
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Hour 2: Mike Schur's 2024 Meadowlark Observations
Go to MillerLight.com to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer.
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Hour 1: Who Broke The Bill Belichick News?
And then he said, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's wrong.
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Hour 1: Who Broke The Bill Belichick News?
He's like, I'm working on a big addition to the VIPs. This is an NFL caliber guy. And I'm like, and what is he doing? He's going to come on with us every week. I go, where? I don't know. Me and Thomas will figure it out.
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Hour 1: Who Broke The Bill Belichick News?
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Hour 1: Who Broke The Bill Belichick News?
Head to Roan.com slash DLS and use a promo code DLS to save 20% off your entire order. That's 20% off your entire order when you head to Roan.com slash DLS. When you head to R-H-O-N-E dot com slash DLS and use code DLS. It's time to embody your most confident self.
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Hour 1: Who Broke The Bill Belichick News?
Defense wins championships, baby. That's show business.
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Hour 1: Who Broke The Bill Belichick News?
Yeah. All right. Hey listeners, it's Mike. Game Time is focused on togetherness this holiday season. That means when you bring people together at live events, the experience is just that much better and it is the perfect gift. Game Time has this wonderful new feature that can help you for your holiday shopping season called Game Time Picks. It makes getting tickets for live events even easier.
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Hour 1: Who Broke The Bill Belichick News?
With Game Time Picks, it helps make curation easier to save more on sports, concerts, comedy, theater, and more. And you got all-in pricing. No surprises at checkout. With a push of a button, you toggle that, and you see all the prices up front. It's got wonderful features like all-in pricing.
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Hour 1: Who Broke The Bill Belichick News?
You toggle that feature, and you see the total up front with no surprise fees at checkout, panoramic seat views, Know exactly what you're getting into. Not everybody has that. Lowest price guarantee and nobody can touch GameTime's ticket coverage. Your purchase is covered with the most flexible customer service policy in the ticketing industry.
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Hour 1: Who Broke The Bill Belichick News?
Take the guesswork out of buying tickets with GameTime. Download the GameTime app, create an account, and use code DAN for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Again, create an account and redeem code DAN for $20 off. Download GameTime today. What time is it? GameTime.
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Hour 1: Who Broke The Bill Belichick News?
Hey listeners, it's Mike. Game Time is focused on togetherness this holiday season. That means when you bring people together at live events, the experience is just that much better, and it is the perfect gift. Game Time has this wonderful new feature that can help you for your holiday shopping season called Game Time Picks. It makes getting tickets for live events even easier.
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Hour 1: Who Broke The Bill Belichick News?
With Game Time Picks, it helps make curation easier to save more on sports, concerts, comedy, theater, and more. And you got all-in pricing. No surprises at checkout. With a push of a button, you toggle that and you see all the prices up front. It's got wonderful features like all-in pricing.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Who Broke The Bill Belichick News?
You toggle that feature, and you see the total up front with no surprise fees at checkout, panoramic seat views, know exactly what you're getting into. Not everybody has that. Lowest price guarantee, and nobody can touch GameTime's ticket coverage. Your purchase is covered with the most flexible customer service policy in the ticketing industry.
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Hour 1: Who Broke The Bill Belichick News?
Take the guesswork out of buying tickets with GameTime. Download the GameTime app, create an account, and use code DAN for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Again, create an account and redeem code DAN for $20 off. Download GameTime today. What time is it? GameTime. Don Levitard.
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The Big Suey: Travis Hunter Wins The Heisman
It's Christmas time, Dan.
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The Big Suey: Travis Hunter Wins The Heisman
You just clearly don't know the song.
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The Big Suey: Travis Hunter Wins The Heisman
Play the beginning of that again without the vocal and tell me that doesn't sound like a Christmas song. No.
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The Big Suey: Travis Hunter Wins The Heisman
Should we film the music video or? Oh, Jesus.
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The Big Suey: Travis Hunter Wins The Heisman
Or to praise me for anything.
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The Big Suey: Travis Hunter Wins The Heisman
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. or bottle whatever your preference.
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The Big Suey: Travis Hunter Wins The Heisman
Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. Take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible. Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste.
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The Big Suey: Travis Hunter Wins The Heisman
It hits different than other light beers. Simple ingredients like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors in the iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975 and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings? Tastes like Miller time! Go to MillerLight.com to find delivery options near you.
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The Big Suey: Travis Hunter Wins The Heisman
Or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer.
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The Big Suey: Travis Hunter Wins The Heisman
Better than the alternative. Yeah. That's what you say.
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The Big Suey: Travis Hunter Wins The Heisman
Stugatz is so right in that I'm more proud of Tua when he doesn't get in the way of someone returning a potential pick six than when he completes a 50-yard bomb to someone. It's such a better feeling to watch him not die on the field than to do something spectacular.
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The Hockey Show: Paul Maurice Stories With Adnan Virk
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. Or bottle whatever your preference.
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The Hockey Show: Paul Maurice Stories With Adnan Virk
Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. Take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible. Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste.
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The Hockey Show: Paul Maurice Stories With Adnan Virk
It hits different than other light beers. Simple ingredients. like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors in the iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975, and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings? Tastes like Miller time!
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The Hockey Show: Paul Maurice Stories With Adnan Virk
Go to MillerLight.com to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
So we start flying up to Bristol having conversations with these people, and you were right to highlight that they actually had radio bona fides. Amanda Gifford came up through Colin Coward's show. Liam was the executive producer of Mike and Mike for a long time. John Keller was a radio lifer. So inside of the ESPN audio division, we were starting to see people that we could F with.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
really like they got us they got what we did and it was a little bit different than maybe some previous managers that we had had when we weren't a part of an actual part of clearance over there it becomes clear that colin's leaving i was actually in bristol the day that it was reported colin was leaving to fox i was sitting in colin's studio and i got to see his entire process at the time we just gripped it and ripped it dan got in in front of that microphone
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Why'd you wait so long?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I was in his studio because I was working.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Well, there was a couple of interesting things that happened on that day because I believe Colin got into a controversy about Dominican baseball players that day. I believe Jen Latta was supposed to be a part of Colin's show, who is now with College Game Day, and she was just kind of sitting in an office as all this stuff was breaking.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And it looked like Jen, who Colin specifically asked for, was now not going to be a part of Colin's show. So it was an interesting time to be there.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
But also what I realized is they're used to a totally different workflow from the host that is hosting this time slot. Colin, when I sat in with him, Colin would run through his entire show twice before it actually started. What? And he would just bounce stuff off of guys, whereas we would just turn on microphones and go.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And it was a little bit different because by then the zig had been established so we know how to zag. And that's another part of this challenge that we got. But the talks to get to midday were... We were pushing you pretty hard. We wanted this. What ultimately made you align with us and say, all right, let's go for it.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
A lot of things professionally are happening at this same time. We're not thrilled with how Fusion's going. In the last episode, we got into how that disrupted our workflow. We're still out on that set when this decision gets made. Lincoln Financial, who I'm an employee of at this time, is about to sell to Intercom.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I see this Disney thing happen because it's part of us who may be moving to middays. All my boys get to be full time. Our team gets to be paid by Disney. And man... Locally, especially, the radio market is a changing and we wanted that long-term stability. What ends up happening is we become Entercom employees because that's a company that Lincoln Financial sells to. Which is now Odyssey.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
We become Entercom employees for five business days before we become... And we can't have a lapse in our coverage. So we had to go through the entire onboarding process. There was no way. I'm like, this is so annoying. We had to do all the HR training, all of that. And then five days later, we become Disney employees. So we're about to change from...
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
the fusion thing's not working out those guys tried hard and i think we established in the last episode it wasn't so much them as it was us we had a different vision for that stuff you start talking to eric ride home to take over the production of the simulcast begging him really begging him give me something i will give you no responsibilities you don't have to do anything just give me something put it on television in some way and so he got us a single employee lorenzo well charlie is still with
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
at this time initially.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Charlie wasn't around with us for very long because with that move to Ride Home and ESPNU, Charlie, ever the climber, took this opportunity to move to the studio that the show was getting produced out of, which was Washington, D.C. And once you get Charlie around those executives in D.C. around Ride Home, you know that his career is going to go a certain way.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
So Lorenzo comes aboard and even though the support system that we had was way slimmer when we moved to ESPNU and we went under Ride Home's umbrella your comfort level really increased because you knew that he was at least across it and could give recommendations and it gave you a peace of mind that you just simply didn't have with the Fusion TV.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
If I may, let's put pause on that because we didn't just go straight to mid days. We had one bit of training with a prize piece of radio real estate that gave us all the kind of data that would put a little suspicion into us because Mike and Mike go on vacation. They ask us to replace Mike and Mike and we're working with a totally different team. This is a production that is based out of Bristol.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
We're in our fusion studios. And for me, it was a nightmare. filling in for Mike and Mike. And there was one big technical mishap that happened on this show. We, at this time, were so reliant on off-mic communication. I would constantly be in Dan's headphones because of the physical disconnect to the main production studio that was in another room. So we were... heavy in each other's headphones.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
They set the mics because it made it easier to produce for them in Bristol to on all the time. So I was catching word from our diehard audience on social media, hey, we can hear what you're saying. And that was never communicated to me.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
We'll get into all those particulars in this episode that'll cover probably the second most important decision because the decision to leave ESPN when that time came was probably the biggest for our lives. But professionally, second biggest decision the show ever made. And it wasn't going to ESPN in the first place because we had carved out a nice little lane there in afternoons.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And while we didn't say anything that got us in trouble, I wanted people to be alert over at ESPN that, hey, you're messing with our livelihoods here when you can't communicate with that. And at the time, I'm an intercom employee. I'm about to be an ESPN employee. This is my one last opportunity to say something and not really have repercussions to me professionally.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Probably took it too far, but this was the biggest argument that I had with Amanda Gifford over at ESPN, where I really turned it on extra. Again, me being angry, me not having the life experience, me not taking HR with ESPN. I'm raising my voice to my superior here because you cannot mess with my guys' future like that.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And it needs to be stressed, but I do know that it was part calculated in that I only had one of these cards and I'm not going to burn it up when I'm an ESPN employee. Let me do this one. I have the safety of Enercom. But what do you remember about your experience there and all the additional attention that came with taking over for Mike and Mike for just a day?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I remember I sternly spoke to the producers that were producing from afar in Bristol. I'm like, we can't be on the air. and you not relay to us that our microphones are always hot. I can't be finding out about this two hours into this show. And I got a complaint from Amanda saying, hey, the producers didn't appreciate you criticizing them in front of everybody. I'm like, I have no direct comms.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
This is the only way that I'm alerted to that they can actually hear me. We've been to Bristol like once. We have no idea the setup that's up there. I'm like, what is this culture over there? We could have lost everything. And you're talking to me about hurt feelings from dudes in a production truck when we need to be the priority.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And that was the real battle that I was having with managers over at ESPN. Like if we move, it's going to be a different management style from you too, because we're more of a renegade outfit. And that's why I seized on that opportunity. So I remember I had an interesting conversation with Dan during this time because I had saved up for about two years for a trip to Hawaii.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And this was another one of those things, which is we had a target start date in mind and then the target start date just randomly moved up a week. And so if you see footage from the very first show that we do in the mid days, I'm in a Hawaiian shirt. I have a lei and I have like sunblock on my nose because I literally go straight from the airport to the studio.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
No one was really paying attention to us. We had already made that decision. The decision to go to mid-days really changed everything for us in a variety of ways. I guess professionally, there were a lot of benefits too. Our reach was about to increase dramatically. Our visibility, our cultural impact, the money that we made, all this was a bit of a game changer for us.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I remember Dan kind of holding it against me, like, why didn't you cancel this trip? Because Dan and his brother were in the studio and putting up new art, really making the show look livelier and sprucing things up. Fair question by Dan. Yeah, and he was like, why didn't you? I'm like, well, Dan, I presently make $36,000 a year I save for this.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
It's not really one of those things like, oh, I'll get to Hawaii the next day.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
bit of a disconnect there, but we survived it. But this general era, Dan has less confidence in the stuff that we're making. He's got additional attention because at this point it's inverted. I was by the end of our run at ESPN, the guy going into all the rooms. If someone had an issue with Dan, unless it was a top line issue, they'd go to me.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Not when we first started in mid days because they didn't know me from Adam. I don't have these relationships and I don't have the trust built up with Dan yet where he's sending me on his behalf. So Dan, you're hearing all of this. You're talking to more suits than you ever wanted to in this era. You're not feeling good about the show. You have a breakup.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
The on-air relationship with Sue Gotts is a little icy. You're not physically engaged with the shipping container over there. You're doing this on this new set that looks cool. We pop. We're on ESPNU now. We have good channel placement. Our dreams are coming true. You're not entirely happy with your relationship with work, the content that you're making, and the bosses that are riding you.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
What is your life like?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
But what Dan was consistently warning against as you and I pushed for this move.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Nothing's going to change.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
You had to fight for Ron McGill even more because when we move time slots, they're like, hey, you play douche or no douche. You can't do douche or no douche here in this time slot. A lot of things from how we did the show. And you asked a very good question about the newsy aspects of the show. How did that change your process?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
to replace Colin Coward, and we'll get into all those spicy details here in this episode, was we go to this great prize piece of real estate in radio, and all of a sudden, overnight, a lot of suits that left us alone, that probably left the office early before we even turned on our microphones in the afternoon, all of a sudden had to justify their jobs and their responsibilities and pay attention to a show that didn't really care much for the ESPN brand.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
But quickly, I just want to talk to you real quick as if Dan's not here. This was a time in the show where you knew that if you did something that sidetracked the show, got us off of a good vibe, you'd feel it. You could cut the tension with a knife during breaks.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
clearly not happy part of us pushing for this growth allowed for dan to blame somebody else for that added pressure and we felt that and we knew that that was a cause to do in business for our decision to push so hard yeah we knew that occasionally during a break when dan is frustrated why'd you guys make me do this it was something that we heard occasionally it would cut like a knife but we knew that that was going to be coming our way with it i said it out loud huh often
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Often articulated. I don't think Sue Gatz and I have ever directly communicated. Correct. as much as we did during that area because we genuinely loved you. And I think both of us knew that there was more going on there. It was clear to us that a lot of things were happening in your life. This was a time of change and your relationship with work was changing and you were always a vibes guy.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
If what you were doing wasn't feeling good to you and understandably so, because at this point you're doing it for 10 years. Why is the thing that I've always felt good for 10 years and all of a sudden not feeling good, even though when this is a time that I should be enjoying the rewards. Right. So we were racking our brains over how do we fix this?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And also sometimes vent to one another because we knew that we had a lot of displaced rage. No question. We probably individually and collectively occasionally dropped the ball and had reasons for you to come down on us professionally.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
But what was happening was a series of things that we didn't have control over that would often just manifest with you saying, can't believe you guys made me do this.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And we were out of answers. Like nothing was really working. And naturally, and I understand like this isn't truly fair. I'm just doing this for the audience. Dan's already lived through this because we've tried to pick up the pieces after that and figure out what happened there. And we've since addressed it. But during this time, naturally Dan's stressed. I'm a huge ball of stress.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And a stressed Dan is really bad for the show. It's hugely bad for the show. We're all trying to find answers, and sometimes it's just vibes. But me, early manager, unconventional climb. I'm taking this out on my shipping container. I am passing on my stress to others. I'm growing frustrated. There's all sorts of communication issues.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
This is a very young production team outside of Allison that I'm just struggling to connect with them, get them to be professionals in this moment.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
seeds of resentment that i end up reaping a little bit later on when we probably creatively turn the corner this is when i am probably at my worst with my anger this is when my communication isn't good this is when i'm most surly i'm just genuinely frustrated and it's not until i find the solution which we'll get into now that it kind of turns that corner
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I remember you actually being strong. Our very first afternoon episode for ESPN Radio, you were a star that day. Dan was nervous and we were thanking you for weeks on end about how good you were at the beginning. You were probably at the peak of your powers in terms of hosting and being able to roll with these punches.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
You were kind of a guiding light in being able to tune out that noise and keep doing it. You were a punching bag when you needed to be and We probably don't navigate it without your general approach to it here. Your on-air character is interesting, but it's so tied into Dan's approach that it really all settles in on Dan. And part of being the 10 a.m.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
ESPN radio show is we set the table and we've never set the table before. And setting the table is important to our executives over there. What about your actual approach and process did people try to meddle with?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Doesn't Skipper, when we move time slots, recommend that Bomani kind of replace Duvall? Recommend? He said it right to my face. Yeah. Oh, that's right. In his office. We took a meeting with Skipper just as this all happened.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Oh, so many great Drogba jerseys in his office. And it was cool being in the office of the president. It wasn't so great when Skipper was like, hey, and who are you?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I'm sure Stugat, it hurt your ego to hear that. But on the opposite side of the coin, uncommon to have a host that says, no Stugats, no show.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And he was going through a really difficult time at work, understanding that, look, I had plenty of bad days when we were on in the afternoon, plenty of stressful days. And it was really compounded by the time I got home and it's 10 o'clock and I don't have anything to take my mind off of. I had stressful days.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
So let's get into how that opportunity presented itself initially. But we have to address that around this time, it's kind of an ambiguous timeline. Chris Cody was an intern and then made full-time, I think briefly, by Lincoln Financial, which was about to sell to Entercom.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And let me tell you, a stressful day hits different when you don't have to go through drive time traffic and you have the rest of your afternoon and evening to kind of get over it. So it was tough. I was appreciative that Dan made the move. I wasn't so appreciative that we were kind of being blamed for making this move, but it's a process and we have to figure something out.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Because there is not going to be a show anymore if we don't get the show better, if we don't get Dan in a proper headspace to create. We're out on this main stage and Dan keeps making the observations because we're doing local hours before we go live for ESPN radio. And he says things like, why does local feel so much better than national? It's what we're used to.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I'm like, is it the local stories? What is it? And this was an issue that was facing us for close to a year. We were out on that main set in middays for a good chunk of time, but it felt like forever. And ultimately, thank God she listened to me. I go to Amanda. I'm like, Dan keeps saying local hour feels better. And we keep trying to find the reasons why.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
But I think ultimately, it might just be the room because he's not disconnected from the shipping container. It's a totally different workflow for him. We did the local hour in the radio studio. In the radio studio. And then we'd go out to the main set because it looked better and that set was wired and we wanted to look polished.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I want to once again highlight it wasn't the subject matter. It was the room. It ended up being the room and our aversion to returning to that room because it seems obvious. Just do it from there. Well, this is a very big time move for our show. And at least on that main set, we looked the part.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And to the listener, they didn't really know that the show in our mind was dipping because we didn't feel good creating it. Why would we move into this broom closet as we're ascending? Why would we go into this cramped space? They spent all this money. We have such a cool futuristic looking set. Why would we go into a broom closet as we get bigger? That doesn't make sense.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
But ultimately we got past that and that had to be what changed things. We got bigger. The room got smaller. We did. So I talked to Amanda Gifford and I'm like, look, I can't get representative sample here without us being off of television for a while because I didn't know if it was a studio thing or if it was a TV thing. I just knew that I didn't have the sufficient data to make the call.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Chris Cody goes from Nepo Baby intern to Nepo Baby employee and joins our team formally because I remember Chris in the Clevelander as we were building stuff out being a big part of that process.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
So let me just get two weeks in that studio, man. I'm begging you. No TV, no nothing. I need to get Dan in a place where he feels good leaving that studio. Back to the roots. Where we have good
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
shows because if we string together a couple good shows we can turn this thing around and it was in that two-week span and god bless amanda for allowing it and our partners and ride home allowed it dspnu had to find some other programming to fill in those two weeks but it worked almost immediately it did and it felt good and it got dan in the right headspace this was around the time that we had the relationship counselor kind of shine a light on because we weren't going to say that i gotta be honest i was pissed because i enjoyed the big room and the big lights and i wanted the big lights and
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And it made us happier because we got our guy being happy again. What was it about that transformation that it finally clicked and we could finally turn that ugly corner?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Speaking literally from on high. You remember when he first started having guests there? He'd like, we'd have Chris Mullen in the studio and Chris Mullen's neck would be, he would be looking straight up at Colin as Colin gave, Takes from on high. We knew that we had a different aesthetic. I love the way that the show looked on the main set. That little island actually looked cool.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
We could play with that big screen. If we had Brian Windhorst on, we could have a goofy photo of Brian Windhorst.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Because the shipping container was a bigger part of the show. And Dan would do the show off of their faces. And it's a lot different when you're doing it on the main set and you're playing to just a camera guy who's watching you do work you're insecure about.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
We ceased being a radio show that was trying to be on TV to a radio show that TV was going to have to work around. And that decision really helped turn the corner for us. We start feeling good about what we're doing. And it really serves as a launchpad for what I would say would be commonly referred to as the golden era for this show. It saw the most growth. It saw the most creativity.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
This is when our show was really funny, especially sticking out compared to the rest of the network.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
We were able to parody ESPN while being on ESPN. We were able to be anti-establishment while working for the worldwide leader in sports in a coveted time slot. We got to be this renegade outfit that was still, if you get down to brass tacks, the establishment. You're doing 10 to 1 on ESPN radio. You're not this little scrappy underdog, but we always maintained that.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
We were always kind of anarchist. We were punk rockers, even though we had one of the biggest gigs in the nation. And this really, for me and Dan too, interpersonally, and for you and I, because we look back on that time as very challenging and we kind of survived it. Made us closer. It did. But also with Dan, me being able to get Dan back on track.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
With that decision, in collaboration with people at ESPN that allowed for it, it changed my relationship with Dan, which was still contentious. There was still some resentment because I was one of these people that was pushing for a decision that ultimately led to a lot of unhappiness for him.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Being able to fix that problem and get Dan feeling good with his relationship with the content that he was making, with his work, with his workspace, putting a smile on Dan's face, letting Dan see the smile on others' face, this is where I became Dan's guy. This is where I truly think I got most of Dan's trust because I overcame some hard stuff.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I still struggled as a manager, but I was going into the breach and fighting people on his behalf to get this done. I got buy-in from ESPN. I really stuck my neck out there for him. It was never said in this moment, but I really do think that this was a tipping point for you and I, in which you became a big Mike guy because I was able to find the solution here.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
A switch flipping.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I think getting you to be happy again and have fun and laugh with your friends. You were yearning for that at this point for an extended period of time. It was about a year and a half where you're unhappy, felt longer.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Even as Skipper's like saying no to Bomani.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
It felt like a big achievement when it happened, but certainly with the benefit of hindsight, I know that that's where I became Dan's guide. Now, in that year and a half that we were struggling, I write a lot of bad checks and seeds of resentment will get fortified because of how I handled that stress. I wasn't good. At this point, I had interned the therapy. I didn't know how to carry myself.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Like I felt like if I felt And if I was being let down, I only had so many off ramps before I would just get angry. And I found out the pitfalls of being angry. And at this point, I started clashing a little bit with Allison. And I'm not really clashing with a container so much as being frustrated with telling them what to do and they're not doing it. And I'm holding them accountable.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Yeah, they're also in a different room. Right. So like, I'll feel it. I'm sitting in that and I'm just not great at being able to deal with that. And even though our show is about to turn a corner creatively, grow and really do some important good stuff that changes the game.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I, unbeknownst to me, open the door for more resentment that quite honestly, I'm still dealing with and trying to dig myself out of to this day. But I don't want to set up the next episode on such a bummer because when I think about what's ahead of the show on the timeline, 2016, 2017, those were such great years for our show. It felt like we were doing some really cool, big things.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
It felt like we were the rock stars, the bad boys of podcasting. Podcasting all of a sudden becomes a legitimate industry. And it felt like all the moves, all the bets that we put, on ourselves, carrying over the RSS feed, moving to middays. Now that we're feeling better about the work that we're doing, these bets are starting to pay off and you kind of feel like top dog a little bit.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
So it led to a really good time, Dan.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Growing up early in the industry, I saw creative sparks fly. Tension usually breed good segments afterwards. I grew up in a very angry household, not to get too much into that stuff, but I had never had to be checked on how I carried myself. We highlighted a scenario at 790 where I got in a yelling match with Todd Castleberry and I survived it. I ended up winning that political battle there.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
So I see a lot of bad behavior fortifying here. And shortly before I tell Dan straight up, I'm scared of you is because now I have to talk this thing out. Because by that point, Dan straight up told me, you yell at me one more time. This is how you lose your job.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
It's not going to be because of whether or not you get along with Allison, whether or not we're good, whether or not ESPN is happy with us. Just respect me. Respect me. Stop yelling at me. Just because you saw Hawk do it a couple of times, we're not there yet. And you are angry, kid. You need to think.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Quite the opposite. There was a time there where I just didn't have many moves other than anger because I was clearly frustrated. Look, we told you ultimately what ended up being our salvation was moving into that other studio. It was quite literally the answer to all our problems. How did we deduce that?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
By being super frustrated and angry and blaming other things that weren't the actual issue and trying to work through that, totally being frustrated with, this is not the issue, this is getting blamed for it, how do I fix this?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Yeah, it's a miserable place to be at for a year and a half, but it would have been a hell of a lot more miserable if I was still hourly and getting home at 10 o'clock in the evening. In the evening, I arrived to the place where so many people in my industry wanted to be. And I wasn't super happy with it. And I felt like I was crumbling under the pressure. Thank God we turned that corner.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I was made better for it, not just as a manager, but as a person. I just didn't know it then. It was real challenging, but Dan fixed it. To a large part. I don't really talk about my anger issue as it's something that I conquered. Dan occasionally says that you got over it. And I talk about it like it's recovery from an addiction and you're never fully recovered.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
It's constant because there are constantly times, not constantly, I've gotten better. I've been generally more patient. But there are times where I feel it bubble up and I have to really try to avoid from ever getting my life back into a place. I was so ready to be off the cuff angry.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Hmm. Talking about like the anger stuff, like specifically going away?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I'm confronted by everything. I wasn't fully aware of what Dan was to me as like the center of all my stress and my relationship with work not being super healthy. I ended up being that for a lot of people because I was the go-between and Dan wouldn't chastise them or criticize them or hold them accountable.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And I was always that person for other people, not just in the radio studio, but for TV people, for ESPN managers. I was always a very convenient fall guy, not without blame. In many respects, I was that person. That was just cost of doing business.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I don't think people really understood the level of stress that I was under, my unique position, how it was so tied to Dan's healthy relationship with work. And ultimately, I'm not going to change a damn thing. I wish I knew about the anger sooner. And I certainly wish that the way that I found out about how much I had hurt people during this time was presented at me in a different way.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And we'll get to that in a future episode. But I did what I had to do to get us across that line. I know Dan has said time and time again in the last episode and this episode, the show was never going to be over. Dan had the relationship with Skipper that if he said, I can't do this anymore, he had a successful show with Dan LeBretard is highly questionable and then highly questionable.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
He was going to be fine. He would have found his way. You and I live with this all the time. I wasn't going to be. And I knew I had to get this show over the line by almost any means necessary. And we did. We figured it out.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
It did. It made me better, certainly in the long run. I am better today because of finding that solution. I am better today because Dan, whether he knows it or not, found a lot of trust in me. I look back on that time, that battle, that decision to move back into that womb because we invite Mike Schur into it a little bit later on. And he says, you guys are just in a baby's womb right now.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I look back on being able to get this show right as my biggest achievement because I genuinely don't know if there's a show today if we didn't figure that out. It was such a crucial move and it was so high stakes. It wasn't like the afternoons. We had people managing us at
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
this point and a whole economy revolved around us figuring that issue out and we did and then dan i mentioned that this is when you were at your strongest i think once dan got back into that studio this is where for my money dan and stugatz are the premier pairing in sports audio There are people that you seek out their opinions. They're giving you funny day in, day out consistently.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
The timing is great. Other characters are finding the roles. The show is ultra creative. We're doing parody songs. We're doing bits. We're doing trailers. We're doing visual stuff. We're starting to have clips break out on social media. This is where the show really breaks out and it doesn't do any of that stuff if there's no show and we had to get the show continuing.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
It's a little bit sports here and there. But when Dan says, keep them away from me, keep that away from me, you're probably listening to this right now and saying, well, it seems like all the issues that you're having are just in a personal and your literal work environment. What kind of noise does Mike need to keep away from you?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Tell me more about that because one of your best friends in the world is Greg Cody and his son wants to do this. It's one thing to say, yeah, we'll give him an internship, see if he wants to try it out. But by then you grew a bit more of a callous to the radio industry, having gone through the primetime media days. Your tone with Chris Cody was a loving one.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Like, I don't think you want this in your life because it's a very difficult industry. And I'm curious to know how those conversations went, not just with Chris, but perhaps with his father.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
But you're making me think about Zagaki now. And I do love me some Joe Zagaki.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I mean, it's a parody of sorts. It's definitely a bit of an exaggeration, but yeah, touchdown. That's a Miami's Aquarium touchdown is ruining every great call.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Genius. That's his idea. And his idea allows for a certain amount of theatrics. Like, you could, like, throw, like, something, like a smoke bomb or something. Magic at bad time. Like, you throw out the smoke bomb onto the field. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like a little firework, like a little cherry bomb. Magic.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I didn't understand that. I didn't either. Sorry for party rocking.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
future in this career just because we were having so much fun creating stuff he didn't take your advice i was i was happy to have chris aboard though very quietly and i'd say quietly because as we've highlighted before this era the shipping container is just about finding its voice but the full-on ensemble that maybe the audience now knows wasn't fully developed these characters individually and collectively weren't fully developed but we were a very young team and it was very different than what you had before when you had mark hawkman's cul-de-sac in charge
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Steve Martin was a prop comic. He was? Yeah, yeah. He came out with an arrow through his head.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Had everything to do with Vin Scully.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Yes, very good. He was great for morale. He had a good energy in there. He was fun, lighthearted. Billy was stressed with all these additional responsibilities. Roy is very cerebral. So to have that youthful energy there was good. And we also got even more popular by being so much younger in that back room. hip show, if you can imagine that way back then.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
And I think it was in small part due to the young people around you. You were playing literally in your studios to a younger audience, so you really sharpened that skill. So the show starts humming. We feel good about the show that we're doing in the afternoons for ESPN Radio. We have contacts like Amanda telling us what a great job that we're doing.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Trog Keller's telling us what a great job that we're doing. Colin Cowherd has a making it pretty well known that he is negotiating with Fox. This is around the time that FS1 launches, and they want to make a big splash with their talent signings. So it seems as though Colin Cowherd is going to leave the mothership, and we are the likely replacement there.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Conversations, I imagine, start happening with Trace, and I'm curious. Was it your feeling that we were... I feel like we were the obvious backup to, they were clearly trying to extend with Colin Cowherd, but they weren't going to pay him that. Had Colin Cowherd decided to leave, we would be the show that replaced him.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
I want to know what those conversations were like with Trace, your agents, ESPN, and did you even talk to Colin about it?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Norm on the phone for like two minutes. I'm pretty sure she said, no, you go on hold first. No, you go on hold first. Really? That's what happened? She was so flustered and she forgot to put him on hold. Oh, God. She just hung up on him.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
She read his book and developed this thing.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
It's the holidays, people are shopping for great gifts. One of the great gifts that I always like depending on is something experiential, like going to a sporting event. There's nothing like it, especially when the stakes are ratcheted up high, especially when it's a game that everybody wants to go to.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
The motivations to move to middays were pretty obvious, but for those that don't know, Dan had a very different relationship with time. Dan was a single man, didn't have kids, and had just moved into a studio that was blocks away from his home.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
So when we were in the afternoons, I'd be doing all my pre-production, I'd get there close to noon, our show would end at 7 o'clock, I got a ton of work to do. ton of post-production to do. And then I leave the island and I crawl across the 836 and I'm getting home sometimes around 945. So family life is difficult to maintain at this point.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
A young husband, I want to start thinking about having a family. How do I spend time? Am I just not going to be a part of this child's early life with this window? And also you make stuff for people to hear it. We were starting to be a really big digital property. Certainly for ESPN we were, but the time that people were getting to our podcast was when games were tipping off.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
Our podcast was becoming antiquated the second that we released it. I felt like if we started up and had our podcast hit to market around 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock in the afternoon.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
We could still be a part of people's drive time traditions. And that's how we sold it to our South Florida audience, because that was also something that we were worried about. I could really maximize my digital audience. So for me, life balance, money, career opportunity, the fact that you have this Cadillac of a real estate space in radio, I thought we could do a lot with it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 7
But that life balance was a huge part of it, not just for that moment, but seeing where I wanted to take my life beyond that.