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I'm not sure, Stugatz, how you feel about what I'm about to say because I think at this point in my life, I don't think that I should spend so much time scared of technology that when I go outside on my balcony and I see in what looked to be like 30 mile an hour winds, it's super windy out there. I see a drone show.
where all of these different drones become all of these amazing Christmas things in the sky. And every once in a while, a drone flies off in a direction and crashes in the ocean or falls on the sand. But largely what I'm witnessing in front of me is a bunch of machinery that I cannot believe is coordinated like this.
in normal winds but also is able to withstand 30 mile an hour winds to do this ridiculous technological dance that in some way shape or form i think will have lasers one day to control me and so i can't just enjoy the show because in new jersey drones are doing evil things because i don't trust the billionaires i don't allegedly well we don't know what they're doing they're not
They weren't doing anything. I think that part's confirmed. The drones haven't hurt anybody. Right. But there are apparently drones in the sky in New Jersey and New York that... And Boston. And like northeast places where they... People on the ground are like, whoa, what is this? These are UFOs.
And then the government's like, no, these are probably just aircraft or like maybe there are some drones, but they're not like foreign drones that are going to kill people, which is what some people think they are.
I watched the news this morning and they were talking about it. And it was so funny because they had the reporter go on and be like, do not shoot. shoot the drones with your guns. That's a really bad idea. You might shoot a plane. You might shoot the drone down. It could hurt somebody. And it was just them for like 30 seconds being like, don't shoot the drones with your guns, everybody.
I love that song, how it turned into a song by the end as both a parental warning and don't shoot the drones. But you guys do understand the fear. Instead of just being awed by what it is that I'm watching, how it is that I get to... Dear God, I saw in Ukraine and during a Russia war, I'm introduced to drone technology. I don't understand how it is that Russia hasn't already won that war.
That all seems terribly horrific. But, oh, there's video footage of a couple of Russian soldiers and there's just a drone over them. And now they are dead because I just saw two soldiers killed in Russia because drones can do that now.
Can't you just enjoy a Santa Claus-shaped drone show? Like, what is happening that you see this and you're like, Russia, drones. What'd they make over your house? Yeah, what did they make? Like an elf sipping cocoa? How'd they make a tree exactly? Like, it's fun.
They made an elf surfing on a surfboard.
Oh, that's fun, I get it.
What?
Because it's over the ocean.
A surfing elf?
They had the wave and everything. I'm like, how? They had obviously, you know, the snowman. They throw in a snowman for you at Santa Claus. Feliz Navidad. It's fun, Dan.
Misspelled. Just focus on that. How'd they spell it?
Feliz Navidad. Oh, that's fine. It wasn't spelled right.
Drone this, drone that. Enough about Virginia Tech football.
That was a reach. Well, we drone on Mondays about all manner of football. Can I get to the interesting transfer portal stuff? Because we have, you know, we've been obsessed with football here for a couple of months and college football, and we skip past National Signing Day, but all of a sudden we're the show that's consuming, you know, 16, 17, 18, 19-year-olds and where their free agency is.
It's wearing on me. All of it. Football never stops. Lucy, too. It hurts.
Well, you say it hurts. I think there are two things I think are criminally underappreciated around here. First, Jessica's cookies.
hmm jessica's baking second second is people think lucy's just fooling around on the weekends and she is battering the country going from party to party dragging rose with her getting pepper sprayed her body hurts she hasn't had how many straight days did you work lucy
Like, in what, forever? I don't know. I got to tell you, brain cells, they're at an all-time low right now. That's what I'm saying. During the season, especially when I had to be in Miami, I would be working like 16, 17 straight days. Because what a lot of people don't realize is I'm... doing all the pre-planning for this stuff.
So all the video ideas and stuff, I do have people to help me with that, but that all is my thing. I type everything up. I'm incredibly organized. It's a ton of work. And then there's so much involved with travel and all this stuff. And it's been, this is my 16th straight week on the road.
I did go on vacation the week before, so actually technically 17, but that doesn't count because I was just doing stuff for funsies. But it wears on your body. I'm a little bit tired. My tummy hurts a lot, and I'm really, really tired. And I'm so tired.
You had a bye week, though.
Yeah, but then I had to come here. I thought I had a bye week, and it turned out I didn't.
Peer off the bye, huh?
All right, so this is where Metal Ark Media needs to do better in general. And I am now going to ask... Billy and all of the resources of Metal Ark Media to gather behind me because I... And Billy, though. Well, all of us. I need everyone here's help. Jeremy's just left, okay? Let me write this down. Yes, please. I need my army behind me. Jeremy's got his Scott Frost song.
He's gone to prepare that because now he wants to serenade us with Christmas carols that Stugatz and I don't readily identify as Christmas carols.
Is it a Christmas carol if it's just the tune of a Christmas carol? Because nothing about that song was actually Christmas.
Yeah, the transfer portal happens during Christmas time. It's like Die Hard being a Christmas movie.
But Jessica's saying that is a Christmas song. I don't care. It doesn't resonate for me as a Christmas song. But what I need the army behind me on is the following. Stugatz walked in on me the other day. It was God. Super Bowl picks. Well, it feels like he walked in on me naked. It did because of how vulnerable I was. So, yes, Super Bowl licks. Thank you, Billy.
Because I was so vulnerable because he's walking in and I'm leaving a message. OK. I'm leaving a message because I'm trying to get Lucy a credential for a game. And Stugatz is seeing me. have to call a sports information director and leave an old-fashioned message because we're a guerrilla outfit. We're a pirate ship now, like Metal Lark Media. I mean, we stream on Max.
College football is streaming on Max. We're on Peacock. I mean, we're on SiriusXM, but she's not being treated like she's a legitimate media member, so I have to make a call so that she can have the credential access.
should we bring down the full weight of ricky williams on the texas athletic program to get us media credential because lucy needs to get into a playoff game should we have ricky williams brought in as our muscle to threat like hey you know what i gave my body to the school can we get a credential for metal arc media i don't believe we should threaten anybody no threats are
The people at Texas have been very, very kind. I wish they wanted me there, but they have been very, very kind. And the thing about me, I know they may not think I'm a professional media member, but look at the way I'm handling this. Pretty freaking professional.
Right. I told Lucy, Dan, if you fail, that I will call Major Applewhite. I mean, I did. I told her that. I have his number. I will call him. I've called him before. I will call him again. Also, I suggest perhaps Ricky Williams and Chris Sims, who was a quarterback at Texas – Except, I'm not certain anyone at Texas likes Chris Simms. That's a problem. No, they hated him. Yeah, they don't like him.
I mean, it's understandable.
I love Texas, personally. I love them so much. Horns up forever.
So I've been writing all this down, and I'm wondering what my role is in all of this.
Just out of curiosity. Because you needed Billy, the Wade, everyone behind you, right?
What I need is for our group to decide how we should handle the use of Ricky Williams to get... Tell me when the game is, where it is, and what needs to be done, you believe, that we should do to now get credentials when I'm not getting my phone calls returned and it's humbling. It's humbling to not get your phone call returned.
Well, this is what I'm going to do to help out. I'm going to figure out when and where the game is, and it's in Texas at 4 o'clock on Saturday, and now I'm going to pass the baton.
I didn't know that. Thank you. Calling a Manning.
Wow.
They may have a family section. You may be able to get a ticket from a Manning, Lucy.
What is the highest up we can go? Because Skipper calling conference commissioners has not worked. We have tried that and it has not worked. Have you said please yet?
I said please and was kind and I used my manners. All right. And Texas was very nice. I do not want to all over Texas. They're just doing their job. They have been nice to work with. Some schools, they just say no and they don't say anything. And I take it as no, I hate you. And then that really hurts my feelings. But Texas didn't say they hated me.
But we still are a bit of an underdog here, an upstart media outfit. And I do believe that the way you have battered your body in pursuit of covering football well over the last two years makes you someone who deserves to be credentialed to cover these games. You have earned it. No one's giving you any gifts here.
Does anyone know Matthew McConaughey?
Wow.
Do we know him at all?
That's a good one.
Do you know him, Dan? Dabo was very excited about the prospect of meeting him at the game on Saturday. He could pull some strings, I think.
I don't have his number on me, just his email.
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You go to GameTime.co on the internet and then you just scroll around and say, oh, Texas football. And then, boom, it pops up and you can even choose where you're sitting.
Crazy. Fan experience is better than the PressBox 2, right? For sure.
Unless it's really cold out. No, but press box and on the field are different things, right? Lucy has gotten a lot. That's where she got pepper sprayed. That's where the real action is. In fact, shouldn't someone who's been recently in the vicinity of being pepper sprayed have earned their combat?
Yep. She hasn't pepper sprayed there, though. Rose should go.
Rose can't go. She's out of town. Wait, does Taylor have Matt Brown's number? He probably has Texas connections.
Taylor! I'm trying to make connections here, Dan. Neil deGrasse Tyson went to Texas. You have his number, right?
He's supposed to be on with us at some point, so maybe we'll badger him on air to see if he can help us. Let's see if we can get a crusade going for Lucy in order to do this.
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He seems like a not nice guy, and he's always been a not nice guy. I don't care for him, and I hope he has the day he deserves.
Stugatz. I hope he has the day he deserves.
That's how I get people when they're really mean to me. I'm not like, go F yourself. I'm like, I hope you have the day you deserve. It's a great kind insult.
Yes. It's beautiful. It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out.
That's a less Southern bless your heart. This is the Don Levitas show with the Stugats.
You mentioned Taylor. I saw, and I don't know what to do with this, Chris Cody. I don't know if you also saw it, but in a way that was a little bit aggressive. And I thought, uh, very gently reprimanded by Jessica in the eating area.
Billy cornered Taylor, had him cornered around the cookies, the delicious, delicious cookies where everyone is gathered, and said to him, you didn't break that story. He was like he was bullying him. He was all around him. He was like, you didn't, that story, just because you whispered it in the corner of the office, that's not really breaking a story.
Just because everyone here knew it, that you knew it, that's not breaking a story when you break the news, but you keep it to yourself.
Well, the actual conversation. How do you guys have a photo of this happening? This is insane. They do. What am I doing?
They immediately have a photo. Look at Lewis. Lewis posing. Lewis can't be trusted. He is asking people. What's Samson doing? Kugler is once again secret eating.
seating did someone just fart next to jess what what happened in that photo is i i asked taylor i said how did you end up on fine bomb damn it it was me i farted notes i am taking notes in the eating area there of the fact that billy has cornered taylor
And that Jessica's making the face that someone farted and that Louis can't be trusted.
Look at you reporting. Cougs is doing dishes. Getting back to your roots.
He's not doing dishes. He's secret eating.
Jess's cookies were delish, by the way. Oh, my God.
He has felt Cougs feel shame the way Jason does that the talent has noticed the way they've eaten.
Which one was your favorite, Billy?
I liked, I think, the gingerbread, and then I had one that was like three different layers, and I didn't know what it was. I was going to ask you.
The rainbow cookies.
Maybe. The red, white, and green ones? No, this one has chocolate on the top.
Oh, those are the butterscotch tahini sesame bars.
Delish. You should try some, Dan.
Billy, why would you corner Taylor and badger him with, you didn't break that story?
Well, because the guy is on Feinbaum, and I said, how did you get on Feinbaum? And he's like, whatever he was saying. I don't know. I wasn't listening. And the thing is that I don't understand is he's always in the corner and he always has this insider information, but he's like, but you can't say anything.
And, like, everything is, like, a secret to him, and he doesn't go out on a limb and report these things. I'm not doubting that he didn't have the information, but he was actively telling everyone, you can't mention it, you can't say anything about this, and refused to go on record saying anything until the news came out, and he's like, I had that.
And then he's taking a victory lap, and he's like, no, Ollie Connolly had this information, and you dismissed him because he's British, which is a hate crime, Taylor. Not to make this about hate crimes right now, but Taylor hate-crimed Ollie.
Wait a second.
And then he said, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's wrong.
That's actually how he talks. And then, boom, he was exactly right all this time. And we almost had him on God Bless Football the same day that Taylor was on with Feinbaum, but Stugatz canceled the last minute. But correct me if I'm wrong. Ollie may be next week. Yeah.
Ollie also reported there was a 400-page manifesto, which apparently was not true. True?
I'm still not certain on that. Taylor, was it true? Taylor doesn't know. He can't tell you anything until after it happens. Waving a finger, not true.
Until after it happens. Let me explain something to everyone who is actively in our community yelling Les Taylor. Taylor, you're doing journalism all wrong. You're doing the insider stuff all wrong.
You don't get to be the insider who carves the lane of I've got all the news, but I never actually risk saying it out loud only to a couple of people so that I can say afterward that I had all the news.
It stays inside.
You can't do that. You've got to put it on the outside or it stays on the inside. You cannot live in both places, not even around here.
I'm trying to help him. I know that you guys don't see it this way, but I think of Taylor much like two guys think of two as a son. I think of Taylor as a son to me. Same. Taylor's like my work son. So I see Taylor and I'm like, you know what, Taylor? We need to kind of, let's go out there. Would you pardon him?
He works hard. Billy, this is so funny. Last week I was saying, are you confident enough in your sources to just put the news out there?
Yeah. He wasn't. Because he's telling us, I talked to three different people, and it's like, dude, you have all the information. Put it out there. He's like, I can't say it. But then they did. Then Ollie did.
Taylor, I got advice. Worst case, you're wrong. It's fine. Yeah, no one even cares anymore. It's 2024. Integrity means nothing.
The slow report hasn't even posted it yet.
That's true.
So we haven't confirmed if it's true or not.
Now, Dan, do you know who Ali is, by the way? Do you know his connection to Billy? I do not. He voted him as, you know, one of the top 10 NFL insiders.
Yeah, Ali's the one that put us on that list. So I have to stay on Ali's good side here. Dan Furman, be honest with you. Yes. Taylor also was telling me, and I can't say this because like anything else that Taylor has that's news, we can't report it to anyone until after it happens.
He's like, I'm working on a big addition to the VIPs. This is an NFL caliber guy. And I'm like, and what is he doing? He's going to come on with us every week. I go, where? I don't know. Me and Thomas will figure it out.
Such a good impression.
He's going to endorse me. Wait a minute.
He's going to endorse me and I'm going to endorse him. And I'm like, what is you endorsing Sam Darnold do for anyone? He's like, I can't say. Less Taylor?
Less real Taylor, more fake Taylor. More fake Taylor, because that is a good fake Taylor. I can't report anything. I'm not confident enough to report anything. I'm going to whisper it in the shadows. It's not going to actually be news, because it's only going to be you and me talking.
Inside Carolina did report that the deal was being finalized before ESPN said that the deal was being finalized.
And after Ali, yeah. Ali said it was a done deal, and then he told us about a manifesto that maybe didn't, but it was fun.
Well, the manifesto piece is crucial. Was there a manifesto or was there no manifesto?
Jessica, you were defending Taylor. You were trying, before you made the fart face, you were trying to defend Taylor from Billy in the eating area.
Before Chris farted. Well, because Billy was like, oh, if Taylor can get on Feinbaum, then what is the point of Feinbaum?
If we're being real, I watched it. Feinbaum punted on it after like three minutes. Really? Yeah. Honestly, I was watching and I'm like, Taylor...
You're in a television studio. Why are you joining on Zoom?
Well, he probably didn't want to make Jason do a bunch of extra work.
Well, he was eating. We know that. Classic Jason. Here's an important part to the Taylor, and you can only see this on video. On Taylor, when you're saying something, you just got to go like this. You just go like this. You throw out your hands and you push yourself back a little bit off the wall. And you just make a declarative statement like this. Okay, that's good.
Did you see the Yankees sign?
Keep working on that fake Taylor. It's not good enough that I liked your audio version. Now you've got a video version as well. Keep working on all of them. I'd like as many Taylors as you got. He's mad at us.
I thought his Feinbaum appearance was great.
I thought it was great. He looks great. Big smile. The lighting was a little dark, but...
It's okay.
Good job, Taylor.
You guys are telling me that Taylor, on behalf of Metal Ark Media, stumbles his way on... On behalf of Inside Carolina, if we're going to be honest, which is another issue. I want to analyze this for a second. Stop sharing the news. Lucy and Rose are out here getting pepper sprayed. Jessica's flying all over the country to be a part of near the Notre Dame experience.
Taylor, we send to events where... Big New York things lose. He comes back and he gets on fine bond before the people around here. Mike Ryan has bought his way into the athletic program of the University of Miami and its insider information chain. And Billy is a proud Golden Panther voice for college football.
How is it that Taylor's the first one to arrive on Feinbaum from around here as a college basketball, college football? He broke real news. He said he broke news.
He broke real legit Bill Belichick going to North Carolina. Biggest college football story of the year, Dan.
Billy is saying that they had Taylor on for two minutes, and then Paul's like, why'd they get me this bozo, run him off the air? Like, why is he here? I didn't say that.
Lucy said he was a bozo. Chris said that. Oh, Chris said it. I watched it, and it was like a four-minute interview. Maybe that was the plan.
So a four-minute interview because he whispered in the corner office that Belichick was going to North Carolina and told us not to tell anybody?
He just started ripping Schefter. No, because he called out Schefter, and they said, oh, we got to get this off. Like, we can't do this to one of our partners.
But I thought Paul agreed with Taylor saying, you know, I'm not shocked that ESPN is taking credit for something that's not their report. He was being a little condescending about it.
No, Paul's a man of the people. Paul was siding with Taylor. Yeah. But he did it with a smirk. I wasn't buying Paul. Really? He was being a little condescending.
Why is Taylor on this show before any of our actual experts?
Me on Feinbaum would be pretty useless, I have to admit. Why would you be on Feinbaum, Chris? I wouldn't. That's what I'm telling Dan.
There's a kind of self-awareness from Chris that I love.
I'm willing to go. The only people are Luce and Jessie. I mean, that's it.
I think it's a social experiment. Are makeup artists? Jessie. Luce and Jessie. Football is getting to me, man. I'm tired. You just called Jessica Jessie? Lucy Luce. I called Lucy Luce.
I like that, actually. I think it's endearing. I don't like Luce Luce. That's a good song.
You know the song I'm talking about.
I know it's a good song, but there are connotations with that nickname that I don't necessarily love.
Luce.
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Don Levitard. We didn't get to your guys' against the spread. You're right, you're right, you're right.
I don't have an against the spread.
Oh, well.
Because I wasn't prepared for this segment.
You need an Ian in your life.
You have actively played defense against me today in a way that has rarely been this undercutting. Stugatz.
Defense wins championships, baby. That's show business.
This is the Don Levitard Show with the Stugatz.
It can happen. I understand. It's been a long season. His body hurts. He's gotten in here very early for God Bless Football on Monday. And sometimes we run him so hard out of the rodeo gate after a Sunday where he's traveled after lacrosse that he runs from that studio into this studio. By the time we get to right about here, he's flat delirious. Yeah.
And so it becomes even lazier casual chummery with Luce and Jesse. And I'm going to just try to connect, but this is the worst version of me. I'm really tired. It's the holidays I've been crawling toward these next two weeks.
How do we get Chris Cody on the Feinbaum show? I'm in. This should be our mission.
I mean, for real. Well, both of these. Let's get Texas. We need a credential. Tell me how I put pressure on Texas. Get me some names. Get me some information. I want our audience to just explain to Texas that we're a legitimate media operation that is covering college football. And then we'll put Chris Cody on Feinbaum to prove it.
But most media companies don't threaten the entities to get access. That might be our problem. I really don't want us to threaten them.
Lucy, if you change your mind and you want to go to the Notre Dame game, I'm pretty sure I could get you a credential that way. But my tickets are accounted for. I'm sorry.
Not on GameTime, though. GameTime.co. Lucy, you want to get there, you can get games here.
But this secondary market, the tickets are so expensive for that game. It's going to be 20 degrees. People are going to spend thousands of dollars to sit there in snow. I'm worried about the toll road. Whiteout conditions on the toll road?
I'm worried about your dad. Yes. Are you going as a family? Like, what are you doing?
Yeah. Jessica, this is the price of fandom that the television experience is better than the stadium experience in winter football weather. Who the hell wants to be in there?
I'm excited. I got to do winter coat. It's going to be great. You found one? I did find one.
Where, Burlington?
I'll do a fit check on Friday. I'll send you a video.
Should we plan for like, what if Saturday doesn't happen? Like, we have Monday Bowl games. No, you can't say that. Like, the Myrtle Beach Bowl, is that fine? The famous Idaho Potato Bowl?
I cannot go to Myrtle Beach.
Ooh, how about the Hawaii Bowl?
Ooh, Northern Illinois is playing in the Potato Bowl. Hawaii Bowl? Revenge game for me. They do the French fry dump. Yeah.
Oh, wow. Did you guys see the Pop-Tart trophy is a working toaster this year? That's crazy. That's awesome. The Pop-Tart Bowl trophy might be the best trophy in all of sports.
They hired, like, GE engineers to make it an actual toaster. It's ridiculous. This is the kind of energy we need from bowl sponsors.
And they ripped it out of an actual Pop-Tart aluminum casing also. These people get it. The Pop-Tart bowl people get it.
Yes, they get it.
Do they get it more than the mayonnaise bowl people?
No, not for me.
I think so. I think it's equal.
They equally did it. But Pop-Tart keeps, like, upping the price every year. Because it started off just, oh, cool, Pop-Tart Bowl. Hell yeah. Then it was, okay, you can eat the mascot. There's a live mascot.
Oh, yeah, I remember that.
Then it was like, oh, my God, we're going to make the trophy into a toaster. I don't want to look ahead, but what are they going to do next year?
Oh, an actual resurrection of a dead body. Wow.
You guys have not made enough fun of the idea that Mike Ryan's University of Miami, led in the voting at Heisman by Homer Dan Levitard, just finished a football season of great acclaim where we can argue it was the best offense in UM history and he was the best statistical quarterback in UM history. And it ends with a fart noise at a bowl for Pop-Tart.
No, that's a
great bowl dan it's one of the most prestigious bowls i'd say that like outside of the playoff that's probably like the fifth bowl right i'd rather i'd rather win that bowl than lose in the first round of the playoffs that's a great yes you get that trophy that's ridiculous do you keep that you keep that trophy right yeah i think it's not like that yeah dan there's like premier bowls that the conferences try to get like their best teams into and the pop tart bowl is one of the acc tying in premier bowl so still one of the craziest things to gots has ever said
And you're playing a team, Iowa State, that was also one game away from making the playoff. These are two playoff bubble teams. It should be a great game if everyone decides to play, which it sounds like Cam Ward is playing. They keep asking, and he's like, I already said yes, I'm playing.
I saw Restrepo's thinking about it. He has to talk to his representatives. What do you have to think about?
Your days of playing football are numbered.
Play all the football you can. No, he's projected to be like a fourth or fifth rounder.
Okay, punt returner. Whoa. Can I say what? Is that his name? Can I say what? Wait a minute. Listen, can I just say real quick before? One happy birthday, Dan. We're just going to move on.
Happy birthday.
You know what UM and UM fans gripes should be? Always having to play a camping world stadium for their bowl games. What a horrific stadium. I love Orlando, and God bless them for trying to make that stadium nice. But that stadium, Camping World Stadium, what a drag if you have to play a bowl game there. And every single year, UM finds themselves at a bowl game there.
It's always a different one, but it's always a bowl game at Camping World Stadium somehow.
So over the years, Billy has gotten really good at a number of different things. Thank you. And one of them is rolling a grenade out here and then running away from it. And just because we're not in the local hour anymore, I will not have you just roll out here, Restrepo, punt returner, and then run into the shadows.
That's right. It's a happy birthday. Days are numbered.
With distracting talk when you just said of the University of Miami's most prolific receiver ever, you've put him in the Berrios, the Braxton Berrios cache.
Yeah, that's not fair.
Of possession receiver in the NFL, that's not big enough to play in the league. That's not physically big enough to play in the NFL. That's what you're doing to him. You're saying he's only Braxton Berrios. He will be no better than that. The most prolific receiver in the history of the University of Miami. That's what you're saying.
I didn't say any of that. I said, happy birthday. And then I said, why do they have to play at the Camping World Stadium every time?
You're right that it does seem like they play there a lot. But last year they did play actually somewhere else. They played at the Pinstripe Bowl. That was the game they lost to Rutgers. So that one wasn't in Orlando.
But Billy's so right that they all feel like they're at that stadium.
Oh, I thought we were going to talk about the other thing. Never mind.
What happened there? Braxton Harris vibes, right? No?
Did you vote for him for the Heisman?
Restrepo, Dan? You had him on your ballot? Sixth? Fifth? What was the number?
They only vote for three. There's no fourth vote. Oh, so third. Would you put him in there? I was struggling. Do I get Travis Hunter there at third or do I put Restrepo in there? Do I give it to one of the Hispanic names at the University of Miami instead?
But Billy is right. That guy's not going to be a great receiver in the NFL. There's no way.
How can you know that Puka Nakula was, like, what, a fifth-round pick, fourth-round pick? I mean, because I know it.
Okay. I don't know how sometimes to measure quick. I think we all know what size in the NFL looks like, and that doesn't look like C.D. Lamb. I understand if we're going to do this.
Devontae Adams.
If we're going to do this based on appearances, then Restrepo probably would have never topped Michael Irvin and Andre Johnson and all the other number one picks the University of Miami has had at wide receiver who also played with great quarterback.
Well, I mean, that's the thing, though, is you can credit it to Cam Ward partially. Right. And also like. If you make the NFL, don't let Billy Gilt bring you down. Why would you listen to anything I say? Braxton Berrios is a great life.
Because you're a college football insider who could be on Feinbaum along with Lucy and Jessica, but not Chris Cody. Chris Cody could not be on Feinbaum. That would be ridiculous.
What would you talk about, Chris?
You're still finding my lane. We're going to find one.
You could talk about the slow report.
Stadium food or something. I'll think of something. He's not going to have you on for that, though. Hello, this is Chris Cody from the Dan Levitard Show. He was a little dismissive, by the way, in introducing Taylor.
He wants to talk about the walking tacos at the University of Texas Stadium.
He comes to us from inside Carolina and also does some stuff for the Levitard Show.
Dismissive of us in general. Well, we're a fading media entity. Kind of sounds like Skipper.
I do believe he'd be a great entity for us. Petered out there.
You heard me say fading media entity because I was taking it back to trying to feud with Texas over Lucy's dead body.
Let's call it maybe Live on Air Texas. That'll work.
Okay, let's do that.
I want to talk about— No, no, no, no. Do not.
I want to talk about what happened, Stugatz. Please do. With Aaron Judge's drop to baseball in the World Series in a second because I think it's funny. But can I get an appraisal from the room as Jeremy comes in, possibly with a Frosty, a Scott Frosty, the UCF man song? Ha, ha, ha.
Is that the title? I don't know. We'll find out together. Rolls right off the tongue.
Can I get an appraisal from you guys on... Do you believe it will get any better for Deion Sanders than where it is right now, this minute? Do you believe that what he has built in two years, which gets two players, you know, he gets two players, two very unique players, family to him. He gets them.
Both of them could have been in the Heisman Trophy room, and they made Colorado a team that only lost three times. And that was two years ago the worst program in Division I-A for several years now.
Yeah.
So right now, this is, agreed, a monster success. Two years of improvement, correct?
No doubt.
And so now what, though? Because how much better does it get from here once you lose those two players? Travis Hunter, I did not see all of the players that were playing in the league, but the reason that he was able to play wide receiver and cornerback is because I saw no player while playing football who was consistently jumping higher
Like, for his size, I saw no one grabbing the football because he was jumping higher than all the other athletes on the field, more than Travis Hunter, even though he didn't look like he was bigger than anybody.
But if you're asking, will it get better for Deion at Colorado? I'm not certain. In life, of course it will. He's about to see his son be drafted in the first round.
I'm not saying life. I'm just asking you guys, what's the appraisal now of Colorado? Didn't make the playoff, but... A team that we all thought was good and interesting and two years of massive improvement. Unquestionably massive improvement that we all assign to two players who are family and are top five picks.
Yeah, I mean, I think that having a player that you coach, recruit and coach, and then transfers with you, win the Heisman, is just a tremendously huge accomplishment as a head coach. And then having your son, who will probably be a first-round draft pick, in the NFL. I don't know how it gets better than two great players like that. One wins the Heisman, the other is your actual son.
Not only is it going to be difficult to replace that level of production, but also the family dynamic. These are his family. So yeah, great season. Obviously disappointing they didn't end up making the Big 12 championship game. They were close. But huge improvement from last year and two really great success stories.
But I think this is what Dan is asking. You should be able to build off of what he just did over the first two seasons, right? Or is this the pinnacle for Deion Sanders?
The thing that I would simply, I would just simply alert everyone to the story and our myths, lest we underestimate it, because Stugatz is saying two great stories. No. Three great stories. Deion Sanders was laughed at when he mentioned, I should be able to coach an NFL team. I don't need to interview. You should respect that. I know enough about football. I should coach NFL. Nope.
You're going to have to go historically black colleges, Dion. Someone like you, a Hall of Famer, usually doesn't have to go that route on how it is that he's going to work his way up the system. But historically black colleges is where you're going to have to start. Then you're going to parlay that into Colorado.
And I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know the history of this trophy well enough to know. Whether a player who has come from a historically black college, like Travis Hunter, has ever made it this far in the business of what is marketing and football to get to best player in the land, led by someone who's a father figure. God damn, that's a success story.
Like, stand back and marvel at what just happened. You were a big feeding media frenzy at the beginning. Ah, black excellence is going to make it a culture war. Two years in, he got his family to the league. Top five picks from a historically black college earned. All of it.
But you are left to wonder, were those the reasons Deion went to Colorado? So we can get his two kids, those two kids, as top five picks in the NFL. Jeff, what does he do now? I think that's a fair question to ask. What's he going to do? And if he does nothing else, that's fine.
But Stugat, so as watching one of the best businessmen in sports that I have ever seen... climbed to the top of this business in two years to the Heisman Room when I've lived long enough to see Randy Moss is walking with a cane and cancer. And it was a big controversy when he showed up to the Heisman Room with sunglasses.
It wasn't received quite as nice as Travis Hunter putting on a smile when Randy Moss was trying to attack that sacred room.
with all of the style and swagger that comes now with what Deion brings to black excellence in 2024, loud in your face, and I'm going to overrun the Heisman Room and football, and I tell you I'm great, and I'm going to show you I'm great, and who's going to deny I'm great now? The reason I ask the question is because I fear winning is so hard that it will be hard to get another two top five picks.
who can help you grow it that fast in two more years. And he should be looking to parlay this opportunity in whatever is the most explosive opportunity of Dallas Cowboys or wherever he can get into the maximum marketing game of, no, I succeeded at the college game, correct? You guys saw how hard this was, right? It doesn't go through black colleges to get here this fast.
I'm in the commercials and I got two of my boys because he considers Travis Hunter family. I got him into the, like, one of them's in the big room, and the other is throwing the football out in a frozen street with neighbors and getting Giants fans excited because they don't have a quarterback. Malik neighbors. Yes, thank you. Because, what's his name?
Because DeVito is out with a concussion now, and that's where the Giants season is. Because they're going to Drew Locke as their third quarterback. Yeah, mm-hmm. Give me another Christmas song. Thank you.
Oh, Christmas. Now you are going for Big 12 titles The Knights looking for their old approach Everybody knows Nebraska was a real sh** show Oh that offense was not right UCF, it was not long ago undefeated seasons were in sight. Did you know that transfers are on their way? All right, can we stop this?
It's beautiful. All right, let's stop this. I mean, Frosty would have been better, but it's beautiful, Dan.
That was good.
Not Frosty, though.
Quarterback will soon arrive. To see if Scott Frost really knows how to thrive.
The only reason that I tried to get out of that, it was not to bully poor Jeremy.
It started with Gus Malzahn.
Jeremy is doing a vulnerable thing. It is hard. The reason I tried to get out of that quickly is because he whimpered at the start of that song and only my headset did my best. And so I was trying to help Jeremy there because he did the most vulnerable thing, which is I'm going to throw myself in the song and the expectation of song being good. Oh, it's not as good as I wanted it to be.
I did my best.
That's right. Do a better one.
Yeah, go do a better one.
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