The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors
Thu, 12 Dec 2024
Jimmy Butler's agent, Bernand Lee, called out Shams Charania after reports that the Miami Heat are listening to offers for their superstar forward and the Phoenix Suns may be interested. What is going on with this situation that led to this staunch denial from Lee? What do the Heat have to hide here that they haven't come out with a denial? Is Micky Arison's retweet an endorsement? Out of that conversation, we transition seamlessly into Aaron Taylor Johnson's abs, the future of the James Bond series and Nosfeartu talk. Then, Tony brings the goods with his Top 5 Movies He Will Always Stop On. Is The Hateful Eight better than Once Upon A Time In Hollywood? What is the best Quentin Tarantino movie? Is The Hateful Eight terrible? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast. This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast.
You guys tell me if you were surprised at all by something that happened yesterday. I don't know why this caught me off guard, but it did catch me off guard. So beyond Jessica being fascinated by that Joe Burrow story yesterday and just athlete burglaries in general, because you know where they're going to be and their home or their families when they're playing might be unsecure.
And so I hadn't thought about that in a long time since talking, as I mentioned yesterday, to Anton Jamison a long time ago about just going to extreme security measures with his home and driving around his neighborhood several times just to make sure that somebody wasn't going to try and grab his jewelry in the driveway with a gun. And I just hadn't given it very much thought.
So it comes up when Joe Burrow's house is there's an attempted robbery that has an attempted robbery. has a robbery and has an SI swimsuit model at home who works for him and people are enjoying whatever that is. But I was not expecting this yesterday from Tua when just out of nowhere, he's like, come into my house, see how that goes for you.
I have personal security just because My house had gotten broken into, not necessarily my house, but one of my cars. And so it's a little too close for my comfort with my family being in the house. So we got personal security to take care of all of that. When we're on the road, we got someone with my wife, got someone also at the house surveying the house.
So just to let that be known, they are armed. So I hope if you decide to go to my house, you think twice.
Was that David during that clip saying, I do that too?
It's that I was robbed too, and I had personal security as well, because you have the view that it will help you, and then you realize if someone wants you, they want you. And burglars really have nowhere to go but athletes, because with remote working post-COVID, people are home all the time now.
Don't sound too excited about it.
Well, no, it's a nightmare if you're a burglar. You have to go to a place where people are out. They're not looking to find the armed guard.
I'm picturing a burglar doing a back in my day. Back in my day.
Empty homes. You can go anywhere. Nine to five. You were good. COVID, man, it crushed me.
Ring cams. Now everyone's got an OnlyFans and they work their own hours.
I never got it confirmed, but I was told at one point, and it made sense once you're talking about these kinds of economies, that LeBron's home in South Florida, because it was on water, had frogmen. like had people to make sure that you weren't coming the back way either. Like you weren't coming from, you weren't coming by sea either.
I just didn't think, I didn't know to think that Tua would have to need security around his home to make sure that somebody, I wouldn't have considered it, honestly.
There's a ton of neighborhoods in South Florida that the cars get broken into. You're told even when you live behind a gate and back when I was down here, they would say, lock your cars in the driveway of a nice area in Plantation. Lock your cars.
Doesn't everyone lock their cars always? That's the whole point, right? I always would.
Not in action movies. The keys are always up on that visor, and I don't understand it. Idiots. Where is this? I mean, what kind of life of security must you live? Well, wait a second. Didn't you have your key in your car for like three years? That was a mistake. I had no idea it was there. Yeah, I had a spare key that was in the... Someone could have just walked up to my car and driven it away.
So you were saying, what kind of movies are this, and it's your life?
Yeah.
It could have just happened. It wasn't in the visor.
It was in the glove compartment, though. Was it in the crack in between the seats that you couldn't get to?
I don't recall. It might have been in the crack.
Yeah, once it's in the crack, you don't go back. You can't find it. Yep. My hands are too small. Stuff just gets gone.
You can fit a lot in that crack. I can get some stuff out of the crack.
Can you guys tell me what's real, what's not real when it comes to Jimmy Butler, these reports, Bernard Lee entering the fray. The agents, it should be known, throughout sports are real and legitimate power brokers. They have relationships with the general managers.
The best power structures in the NBA know to have relationships with the business of agents so that they can have good relationships with Jimmy Butler.
The reports that have been leaked now, Shams is saying, and Shams is credible, that Jimmy Butler would also consider Phoenix as a landing spot, even though that would be hard for a number of different apron and financial concerns to go along with Golden State and Dallas and Houston.
The part that surprised me, and I wasn't sure what the motive was, Bernard Lee was, his agent, said, all right, listen, I gave, he's talking to Shams here, I gave you a pass yesterday because I was busy, but if you don't stop putting my name on your complete and utter made-up bullshit because you know you normally aren't worth my time to acknowledge.
I've not seen an agent go after one of the information guys that way. I will tell you that Shams, and I don't know, Look, everyone needs agents as sources, but Woj had agents and management. Shams is players. Shams is also agents, but Shams is a lot younger. I haven't seen. Bernard Lee didn't and wouldn't do that to Woj, so what's happening there?
I have no idea what's happening there. He comes out firing. He clearly has some longstanding issue with Shams whenever he reports on Jimmy Butler, I guess, specifically. This was unexpected and you don't really see anybody going at Shams specifically like this.
Is this a different tweet if he takes out, all right, listen. If this just starts, I gave you a pass. I love that first sentence.
All right, listen. And then read.
People went after Woj a little bit. LeBron's camp would go after Woj through their different avenues. I don't think I've ever really seen anything like this as it pertains to Shams, who once reported before anyone that Donald Trump got COVID.
What Chris Cody is saying there is important, and I think it needs to be inspected, okay? Because Chris Cody has stopped correctly on Bernard Lee jumping into the fray with, all right, listen. And then read. He's got a finger up. That's right. You're going to read now, but let's pretend it's listen because I've gotten your attention.
The fact that you think that has more threatening behind it than complete and utter made-up bullshit... directed at a credible journalist. Complete and utter made-up bullshit is the part that got my attention because Woj and Shams don't often get it wrong. Agents lie all the time. Why is he doing this unless Shams has it wrong?
But how does this end? Because there needs to be a victor here. If this ends with Jimmy Butler getting traded to one of the teams that Shams outlined before, then that's a whole lot of pomp and circumstance for you to end up being wrong in the end.
Can he be right now and then wrong in the end? What I'm asking you guys is this, because... We have seen how valuable information is in the information business. Shams and Woj and Schefter, like, there are five or seven of these people who you just trust that their information is correct.
You just trust that it is, even in the face of someone who's got credibility saying complete and utter made-up bullshit. And so I'm asking you guys, where do you side on this? Because most often, or to every degree that I can ever remember, when Shams reports it, it's Correct.
Don't they have a beef going back to like 2021 when Jimmy's agent called him like an ambulance chaser or like a clickbait chaser or something like that? Like they have, this is a longstanding feud.
That's where the all right listen comes from.
The baggage.
Am I remembering this right?
And with an injury where he denied that there was a sprain and then the heat announced, by the way, there's a sprain. It turns out that the agent is highly incentivized to lie and And you're going to think that's a take as an executive. But for Shams, when his currency and he's new at this now and he's not in the pole position, he's brand new.
But what he's not new at is this dude gets it right. Like the reason he's got the name that he does, it's not just because he gets it first plenty and he does. It's because he always gets it right. It's not some of the times. It's not even most of the time. It's like no real stains on getting it wrong. The value of his information is that you know that it's true.
And everything's going through Shams right now, right? Because Woj is not in the game anymore. So he's getting a ton of this information. He probably got a lot of sources that were people that were going for Woj. My question is, why don't the Heat just be like, nope, not true. Shut it down.
Well, Mickey Arison retweeted Bernard Lee's tweet. So maybe that's some sort of cosign. But this is the first time an agent's ever lied. Is this posturing? Is this 4D chess where, no, this is bullshit. It's not part of the Suns. Trying to drive the price up.
I will tell you this. The Heat, as a matter of policy, just simply don't comment on this stuff. But I will tell you, this isn't even Pat Riley's viewpoint, that Mickey Arison, I don't think there's much of anything in the world he has less use for than the reporting around his sport. He doesn't value what the information guys do as truth because the Miami Heat doesn't talk to anybody.
And so any perspective that's coming out on the Miami Heat is coming from somebody who's outside of the organization. This particular thing, though.
The Miami Heat are in a critical time, and we have watched a history-making era of basketball where Pat Riley is trying to get one last time at the throne, and he's so very close, and it's Bam at the rim against Tatum, and now the Celtics have wildly outgrown the Miami Heat, and the last vestiges of what the Heat had challenging the Celtics are this old contract that we know is going to age poorly.
You've got to get something for him before he opts out and you go into next postseason without him. But you're not likely to get something better than Jimmy Butler that then makes you better than Boston unless you involve a third team. What are you shaking your head about?
If he opts out, then it didn't age poorly. It means that he's worth even more than what the team is worth.
But are we also to ignore what Jimmy did in the offseason? Hey, those purple and gold uniforms look good. We're just going to pretend everything is just kumbaya over here in Miami? This is part of the Jimmy Butler playbook. And this is how he kind of operates, especially when there are seeds or beyond seeds of him outgrowing a place, which has happened several times.
But I pair this with the reports out of Golden State. where a hungry hungry champion with a star on his last legs insists on surrounding him with a player who would look like Jimmy Butler if you're trying to go all win now on let's capitalize what we just came back from on the Olympics and now the reports are out there well Golden State would like LeBron and Jimmy Butler to join Steph
Because Steph deserves to have the surroundings, what he's built in Golden State. He deserves for Golden State to go all in with all of their passion. And instead of Steve Kerr getting kicked out of games, management is doing everything they can to get two players like Steph Curry to get him to age with grace.
A lot of people want a lot of things, though. They don't always get what they want, especially when the Miami Heat want a superstar to demand a trade. Look, I want Aaron Taylor Johnson's abs. I'm craving them. I don't even know who that is.
Oh, is he from the Kraven movie? The New Bond. I found out.
Oof, that thing sucks. Is he going to be the New Bond? The rumor is he's the New Bond, and you may have seen The Savages with Blake Lively. That's him, too.
I haven't.
And you know what else he's in?
Nosferatu. Oh, that's what I know him from. Did you see it? Was it good?
I'm going to see it Christmas Day night.
I want to talk about Nosferatu in a second, but getting back to what are you doing?
I'm coming out of a casket. Well, sarcophagus. Don't call it a casket because in Nosferatu we don't call it a casket.
What are the Satan names? Beelzebub, Nosferatu.
No, no, Nosferatu is not a Satan name. It's the name for the undead, the vampire.
But it's a form of great evil. Okay, I thought it was Satan related. I'm sorry. Nosferatu is just the greatest of the vampires. I've seen him wandering around the smoke on a boat. Hmm? On the trailer for Nosferatu.
Have you seen Nosferatu? Because no one's really seen him. It's a ship. All you get is just the eyes.
David, enough.
This is, you know who directed this film? Robert Eggers, the guy that did The Lighthouse. This is his fourth feature film. He did The Vitch. He did The Northman, The Vitch. And he did The Lighthouse, which is a Christmas movie. So this is the most marketing he's ever had behind it. I'm literally wearing a collaboration for a cologne. I'm so hyped for this. Christmas Day night, the cinema.
texted me and said, or posted or something, all of this perfume or cologne, wondering like, it's really something.
It's haunting. Do you want to smell it? It smells like Count Orlok's cave. I can't smell it. It smells okay. Thank you. It does smell like a cave. It does smell like a cave, but a nice cave.
I could see what they were going for.
inviting an inviting cape so basically this is just a remake of the 1922 silent film the seminal german silent film that was basically bram stoker's dracula but without using the names so it's a darker twist on this because the count is actually undead even though it's dracula doesn't go by dracula it goes by orlok and it's supposed to be Incredible. And this is a seminal movie event.
Comes out Christmas Day night. And all the little goth kids and all the little emos and all the little vampy kids are going to be super excited because Eggers always delivers. All four of his films, over 90% on the Rotten Tomatoes meter, including this one.
So are you Team Edward or Team Jacob? Which one's Pattinson?
Edward. Oh my lord. That's the seminal movie, not this Nostradamus thing.
What? Nosferatu.
Neither of you guys know what it is, so you're not allowed to talk about it.
You haven't seen the 1922 silent film? You're a cinephile. That should be required viewing for anybody.
Didn't Warner Herzog make a Nosferatu in the 70s?
I did, and he did, and I watched it last week. And this one, they don't call him Nosferatu or Count Orlok. He's just Dracula, but he looks Nosferatu, like 1922. Now, everybody's got their original names. Lots of rats in that film.
I thought I saw a trailer for Nosferatu that was him floating over a ship in the smoke. That that's the trailer of what it is that you're talking about.
Was that the last voyage of the Demeter? That one stunk. Regardless. In all the Dracula war. That was a 40.
Two things I wanted to talk about off of what you were saying. First of all, Lamar Jackson was trending yesterday, correct? Because he says he prefers a female scent, getting back to what you guys were talking about on the cologne. But I also wanted to talk about what David said about the next bond and what's going to happen with the next bond.
Daniel Craig was asked what he thought should happen with the next bond, and his response surprised me. His response was just, I don't care. There have only been a handful of Bonds. It's a treasured position. It is one of the great movie franchises of all time.
He doesn't own any part of it. Can we spoil? It's been years now. We can spoil what happened to the last Bond, right? Of course.
Yeah.
All right, spoiler alert for people that haven't watched the last Bond. James Bond is dead.
What? !
He died. 007, that is. Yeah. He comes back. No, 007's still around. See, that's right.
That's also right. You hate 007.
No, that's a title. That's a title. Yeah, no. James Bond. Bond, James Bond. Dead. I don't really know how they come back from this one.
by hiring Aaron Taylor Johnson and his abs. Dude, those abs are sick. They're so good.
I remember in the Dracula book, he's on a ship, Dan. Doesn't he take a ship to England?
Yeah, the Demeter, or is it Demeter? Either way, there was a whole bad movie made on just that ship voyage, which is super frustrating because I'm like, guys, look for it during the day. All these bad things are happening at night. It's right, like it's a ship. You're not covering a lot of ground. Just look for it during the day. We all know where all this stuff is coming from.
There's dirt everywhere coming from these caskets. Guys are missing. Just look for it during the day.
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This is the Don Levitar Show with the Stugats.
This is a good segue because it's been two weeks in the making. I started a show and then I wandered away from it. I was talking to Tony at the beginning of a show about the top five movies that he'll stop on every single time he's flipping through the channels. Look, they're putting this beefcake up here.
Take it out of preview. Here's the new Bond. You know, he did the reverse Belichick. His partner is a much older woman.
He coaches in the NFL now?
This dude is having his moment right now.
The reverse Belichick. So this is the new Bond. The new Bond has abs. How many Bonds have there been? Four? Five? Ever?
It's reckless journalism. He hasn't been named. I said he's rumored. So that's not reckless. I don't think I get the button.
I think much more than four or five. You've got Connery, Moore, Daltrey. Frazier. Dalton. Dalton. Not Roger Daltrey. Timothy Dalton.
Daltrey wasn't one of them? Is he in the who? Who? So it's been six. It's been six bonds. There haven't been very many of them. But why would he care? He's not getting paid.
He doesn't own any part of the IP.
007.
Oh, look at that.
Is that why they killed him?
We can't have an eighth.
There was one more 007 because for a moment, 007 is assumed by another person in the last one. So there have been more 007s than James Bonds.
How about this? I have noticed while watching everybody get in on this conversation, if I scan the room, even Roy has wanted to get in, but there's been somebody who's been hiding in the shadows but in plain sight. It would appear, based on the look in Chris Cody's eyes, that he has not seen a single Bond movie.
I've played the video game. That's about my extent.
He's never seen Indiana Jones.
He's never seen James Bond. What's wrong with this guy? I've never seen a single James Bond. I've seen Austin Powers. That's the closest I've gotten to James Bond.
How do you get the jokes without... I've played GoldenEye.
That's a great question, Mike.
You should watch James Bond to really unlock this movie, because I know you like it. I still thought it was funny.
Isn't it a Spike TV? Wasn't that the channel that used to replay all the Bonds around Christmas time? This is the best time of year to watch all the Bond movies. There's usually TV marathons.
Which one do I start on? Well, they're streaming now, of course. You can get them anytime you want.
Yeah, but there's nothing like turning on cable over the Christmas vacation and just seeing seven Bonds in a row.
You know my concept for where to take the James Bond franchise since he's now dead? You go back in time. You take the source material and you do period pieces from when those books were written. Noir.
Let me get Broccoli on the phone and we'll get right on that.
The story of little Jimmy Bond. How many brands, movie brands, Fast and the Furious, whatever it is you want to choose, would you stack up and say bigger than the Bond franchise? Just ever? Mission Impossible. Rocky, all of them? Godfather.
Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars.
Who's been bigger at the box office? Because James Bond has more films. But let's look it up. James Bond versus the MI franchise.
You have to adjust, though, for time. You have to adjust.
Wait a minute. I don't think we can trust David on this. David just put up two Godfathers. Not even the third one. He just put up two Godfathers. He said franchises. No, but against all the Bonds movies?
There's no way the box office even.
Against all the Bonds movies?
I was just channeling Adnan.
I understand Godfather is great, but I'm asking for franchise for all time. You can pick one and you've got to win this game. You've got to be the biggest franchise in movie history. If I go all in with the Bond franchise, I'm feeling decent about my hand. I don't know. I'm asking the rest of you to give me some stuff you'd put against it.
But I'm guessing that if you've only had seven Bonds ever and you've been able to keep a franchise alive since 2008,
the 60s mission impossible took a long break between the 60s all the bonds have been relatively relevant through what is it six seven decades now i think i would take jurassic park over it i would take potentially star wars for sure lord of the rings has more meat on that bone harry potter i'd probably take it over james bond i watched dune the other night not there yet but they're starting to spin that baby off
I wasn't a big Dune guy, cinematically. Do you like Timothee Chalamet? You know, I wanted to like Dune, but I just didn't. Didn't everybody love him on college game day? I feel like he smelled good there. Oh, yeah. No, I think he might actually know ball. Or he really prepared for this role. He was probably the best guest picker in ages. He was phenomenal.
I have a hot take about Timothee Chalamet on game day. I'm a big Timothee Chalamet fan. Love his work with all of Greta Gerwig's films.
There's a buck coming.
He's a 28-year-old man, and people were losing their minds that he knew anything about football. I'm sorry. Since when do we just assume theater kids don't watch any sports? He lives in New York. He probably gambles on the weekends on the MAAC championship game like we all do.
He invoked MAACtion, which right then and there... And he was right, by the way.
Ohio spanked Miami.
I love that people would underestimate the theater kid and give him bonus points because he knows a little about college football.
Yeah, but was he running lines?
I... Yes. That's what people are accusing him because his stats were so detailed and it wasn't just things you'd come off the cuff. He was prepped.
Who's kidding? Did you watch it? It looked like he was performing.
It was performative almost. It can be performative. I'm more interested in what she's saying, which is the just general underestimation of a 28-year-old pretty boy because you think he can't know anything about college football.
Exactly. That's usually not something that's afforded to a 28-year-old man. especially appearing on one of cable TV's most popular sports shows.
You would think, right? Although I guess people were assuming that he would just be all Broadway and couldn't know anything about Ohio beating Miami of Ohio.
Why, thank you, Reese.
I would like to make a pick. Yeah, real. You would make a great flamboyant. Thunder!
I think I'm going to take the under! We had fun with it. I like the birdcage. I like the window as closed.
We should make a football musical. We should do that. Who's done that? I want Chris Cody to do flamboyant. Broadway performer, but let's get to Tony's... By the way, you mentioned Dune real quick, and we'll get to Tony.
Did you see the news, the casting news regarding Austin Butler?
Oh, I did. Tell us.
I am not happy about this. Dan, I know you like American Psycho. It's one of my favorite films. Top five film for me. One of the greatest dark comedies ever made. Don't touch it. But they're remaking it. Or a new spin on an old classic. Austin Butler has been cast as Patrick Bateman, according to reports. I don't like this one.
I asked Elvis.
That part's not true.
No, but they told him to do the Elvis accent the whole time.
He's been doing the Elvis accent since he did the movie. He was forced to stop, actually.
Dan, did you like Elvis?
I happen to know. Bop.
The last act.
Christian Bale, that was my introduction to him, was American Psycho. I don't know who else is. That is where I discovered that somebody was a good actor. I do not need that remade, but I am trying to get over to where Tony was for several weeks now. I've been trying to get over to that corner of the room and the movies that he will stop on every time, and now we're finally here.
But, Tony, I have a question for you. Okay. Do you think Austin Butler straddles the line between genius and hack the way that Walken and Nicolas Cage did? Because I kind of think he's bordering on bad actor. So bad that he's good? That he's becoming a bit of a caricature of himself, and you don't do that in your 20s. I guarantee you, here's my bold prediction for Austin Butler.
Ten years from now, he's going to make an appearance that will revitalize his career in a comedy where he pokes fun at himself because he's just become too outrageous a human.
He's not a real person. And who is the greatest example of that in acting? Is it Busey? Is it Gary Busey?
Busey, Cage, Walken. These are the guys. Good job invoking Busey. He belongs in that class.
He doesn't belong in the class with Nick Cage. In terms of cartoon characters? He's not. Nick Cage is a brilliant actor who actually, one of the best movies he's made recently was him playing himself. And I'm completely blanking because I'm just ready to get to Tony.
He's straddling the line. He's straddling the line. It's a very thin line. Look, it's gone. We've seen Nick Cage straddle the line and go well over the line and become a punchline. This guy's crazy. It's like Bad Lieutenant. It's because he needed the money. Oh, a lie! It's a long list, Anno.
He's made a lot of movies. Nick Cage has made a lot of movies while trying to pay the IRS, I think. And he buys a bunch of dinosaur bones and everything else.
All I'm saying is that if any other 28-year-old man were on college game day and was doing college football picks, you guys wouldn't be like, oh my God, he knows football?
It was weird. It was flamboyant. They wanted him to not know anything, and the bar was very low on Chalamet. Olai.
Any Mission Impossible movie. That's just starting to get the beak wet. You know what I mean? I'm scrolling through and it's like, oh, all of a sudden it's Fallout? Ooh, I'm in. I'm watching the entire thing.
The movie that David was thinking of is The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent on Nicolas Cage is what he was looking for there. I'm sorry, keep going.
Also a synonym for my top five. Another set of movies that I will always stop on. A, James Bond film.
i will be locked in on so look i stumbled into it by mistake surprising i think that's a late ad it was unprepared uh late ad by tony no no that's not these are all part of it all right getting entire franchises well no because obviously there's there's many many movies you're talking about seven movies no but what he's saying he's going off of what jessica said which is during the holidays i don't necessarily associate this with the holidays but if there is a slow time over these next 10 days at the end of the month and there's a bond marathon somewhere you're locked in i'm
gonna get hypnotized for about 20 minutes on whatever's going on there like i'm i'm gonna get stopped and i'm gonna i i will not move on from that i will stop in on bond nobody channel surfs anymore i'm just telling you i will i'll do that around bond around mission impossible thank you all right next one still in the only lie by the way coming to america the original one obviously
The second one we don't really acknowledge.
The sequel we don't acknowledge. So, Mike, on American Psycho, you don't want it made? You don't think, because he just mentioned coming to America. We didn't need the remake. The first one was fine.
No. The sequel was a sequel. The first one was great. I just don't like the Austin Butler casting either as Patrick Bateman. You can play one of the other ancillary roles. Give him Thoreau's role. No, don't give him Patrick Bateman.
It's been perfected. I don't need to see someone else in the role.
That dude from Euphoria and Saltburn, that should be Patrick Bateman. Barry Keane? No, Lordy.
No, Lordy, duh.
He's got a beard now. It looks weird with the beard.
Samson, what are you doing there? What are you doing that you're trying to summon a name to play the game that you know somebody and then you get it wrong? I always got his name wrong. But what are you offering to the conversation by limping in, by floating up with Barry something or another? What are you contributing to the conversation? Tony?
The one who was dating Sabrina Carpenter. We were all on the same page as David. It ended badly. Yes. You could say that again.
Tony?
Say it again.
Scarface. Scarface. Anytime, no matter what time. It's a three-hour movie. So anytime that it comes on, I'll catch it right when the blimp's going over, the world is yours. And I'm like, you know what? The world is mine. Thank you.
When is that going to stop being a thing, Tony? Because that's the same for me. Your list. I have never heard a list that has had this kind of kindred spirit.
Holding up a mirror to you, Dan.
I will stop. It does not matter when. Scarface is in the... It just doesn't matter. I'm going to get to where Frank Lopez is dead and he's offering Ernie a job.
Every dog has his day, Frank. OLI number whatever. Hateful Eight. Really? I'm a big fan of Hateful Eight. The worst of the Tarantino movies. I don't say the worst. There's other bad ones.
It's the bottom of my Tarantino list.
He does not make any bad ones. I think that's the worst. He has not made a bad one. Goggins kills it in that one, though. He was great in that. He's incredible. All the characters are great. Look, I don't even think it's an insult to call something the worst of the Tarantino movies.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is not better than Hateful Eight. We'll just start there. It is a million times better.
A million times better, and Austin Butler actually kills that assignment.
Wow, Jessica really gave you a side eye there.
That's fine. Hateful Eight's a terrible movie. She doesn't like Hateful Eight.
If Hateful Eight was made by somebody else, I don't think we'd give it this much of a runway.
We would have not even watched it.
You would have been like, this might just be bad. Not your list. Yep.
Whoa, wait a minute.
Wait a minute. No, he's right. I'm going to go see Taylor.
On Tony's list is something that both Mike and Jessica are reducing to terrible. Have you seen all the Tarantinos?
I've basically seen every single one of them. Which one haven't you seen? Basically is different than seeing I remember starting Jackie Brown. I didn't finish it. Oh, Jackie Brown's so good. It is good. I didn't finish it. It's one of his best. A little slow in the beginning, so I kind of tuned out. Oh, it's a Mission Impossible.
You guys see what's happening here, right? It's getting bad. Tarantino made an action movie with a lot of killing. It's a bit of a western. Jackie Brown. Let's move it along, Jackie Brown.
Exploitation.
I don't like the... A little slow.
No, he saw Django, the one with action. I saw Django. Django was incredible. He saw the Western with action. Okay, there's a theme here.
Bill's, I mean, come on. The tapestry. Tony needs a little action in his movie.
Come on, now you know why my wife and I don't watch movies together. Next one of the OLI, this is the last of the OLIs. We're still in OLIs? Yeah, of course. No, don't. Indiana Jones. Any of them, except for the ones like the Crystal Skull, the Compass one. Those all suck. Not any. The original Indiana Jones, okay? Raiders of the Lost Ark, Temple of Doom, and Last Crusade.
Any of those, I will go out and watch, and if they're on, I will stop every single time.
tony this is what we are as kindred spirits if i was playing right now a game show with my wife that was about knowing each other like we would both know that the thing that causes her the most shame about me is that she will walk into a room where I'm watching Indiana Jones and she will hit me with it again. Snakes.
Why'd it have to be snakes?
The newlywed game is a game. There is a game like that. Is it still there? Are we still playing the newlywed game? Is that still a televised game show? Is that still something that's on?
If you channel surf, you can find it.
On cruise ships, they still play it.
Do they?
He catches the date in the air.
Roy, did you play it on your cruise ship?
No. Did you go watch it? No. Everyone goes to watch it. Come on. They get three couples up there. They get a young couple. They get a middle couple and then a really old couple. They're always so adorable. Did not happen.
Roy, did you interact with others on this cruise ship? Hell no. So there was no community, anything? You didn't go to a show? You didn't talk to a stranger? You just stared at the sea for four days? That's right.
Come on, I know you went to the sailing away party. No. Come on, up on deck 10. Bingo? I did not. White party? No, they went to bingo. I joined them late. You showed up late to bingo? I didn't know where they were. Just at the bow of the ship, like...
Roy won a staring contest with the sea.
Are you the old man from The Old Man and the Sea? Yes. You went to the lifeboat drill. You have to go to that.
14.
Mustard. This is one of the few windows.
There you go. All right, continuing the old lie. We got a couple left. You said that was the last one. No, no, I was wrong. Have you considered a top 10? Oh, Christ, man. Ocean's 11th. Nobody's smoother than Danny Ocean, Dan. You know that. That's another movie you'll stop on every time. True or not true?
I do like the Oceans movies. In fact, Andy Garcia is going to be on South Beach Sessions here in a couple of weeks. And I couldn't stop staring into his eyes just because of whatever it is that Oceans does. Big get. There are certain movies. Indiana Jones is obviously this. But that will just transport you back to a time where you could just turn your brain off and be a child.
And it's everything that's on Tony's list. Every single thing is turning his brain off.
Number five.
Thank you.
This is a two for one, actually. So it's five, but it's two for one.
Every one is just make a top ten.
No, no, I can't. I can't. There's too many. There's too many. Godfather one and two. Bigger than Bond. Lighthouse better be on this. I've never seen it. Number four, Goodfellas.
It's not on anyone's list, Mike. Nobody's.
Number three, Training Day.
Number two, Inglourious Bastards. Probably the best movie Tarantino's ever made. Agreed. We agree there. You had one bad take on Tarantino, but you rallied. That's fine.
Goodfellas is the, I amuse you. I'm a clown. Is that that one? Are you asking? Yeah, I just get them mixed up. I get Casino, Goodfellas. They're all like the same actors. Pesci does kind of do the same thing in both of them. I amuse you.
i'm a clown like a clown that's the one yeah that's it is uh put it on the poll juju isn't glorious bastards the best of the tarantino movies and also put on the poll at lebitard show is um once upon a time in hollywood better than the hateful eight and also put on the poll at lebitard show uh is the hateful eight terrible
Number one, Dan, this is a movie that started this entire list because it's the movie that no matter what time of the movie it's on, I will watch it and I will watch it to its entirety. Yes, he was a rat, but it doesn't matter. Number one, Denzel in American Gangster. He's a rat. He's a rat. He's a cop. He wasn't a cop. He was a rat. That's okay, though, because you know what?
This is $25,000 alpaca. You don't wipe it. You blot that shit.
Yeah, I like his list. It was an excellent list. I think David's would be so much different than yours.
Mine would have Ed TV on it. I don't even know what that is.
If we had to do a list for you, you could do one probably off the top of your head that would be even longer than his. Would you not?
I could get it down to five. It can be shorter. Easily. All right. Well, let's do it quickly then. Number five, A Few Good Men. Every single time.
Ah, you can't handle the truth.
That's the movie. Ah, you. Number four, Fletch. Fletch is a great movie.
That should have been all live. Fletch is great. 6'4", 6'8", with the afro. That's very true.
I can't believe that you and Tony are connecting on Fletch. Tony has never known one of the old movies that you're talking about. When you go 1970s on Tony, you always lose Tony. How does he know Fletch?
Because that's from the 80s, and you get the afro joke. Number three. Number three. Ed TV. That's Matthew McConaughey. Jenna Elfman. It was the beginning of the Kardashians. Who doesn't want to watch that?
Number two. Nobody here, evidently. Number two. No. Everyone here.
I've never seen that. I haven't gotten around to it. I've heard of it. I'd rather watch a Truman Show.
Did you not see the general indifference and the blank stares looking back at you? Nobody knew what you were talking about.
This concept was done better with Jim Carrey, so I was just moving on.
Number two. Castaway. Castaway. I love The Lonely and Cast Away. I will watch that. I'll actually make sure I find it.
I love The Lonely.
He was on Survivor, of course. This is very of his genre.
Number one. And the number one movie that I will always watch, Stranger Than Fiction.
A terrible list. Weird list.
Mine was way better, right?
Both sucked. It was.
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