Jessica Tarlov

Welcome to Raging Moderates.

I'm Jessica Tarlow.

And today I'm joined by Mark Elias, one of the country's top election lawyers, the top election lawyer in the country and the founder of Democracy Docket.

Mark, welcome back to the show.

Absolutely.

This is...

Perfect, like, Super Bowl timing, actually, to have you join the podcast, though.

In the Trump era, it feels like maybe the Super Bowl of fighting them in court is, like, every day.

Yelling at clouds and still getting paid billions of dollars, which also links to your work.

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I want to start with the primetime address.

You watched the 20 minutes.

I did.

How did you feel?

Well, there are,

I think that some interns stitch together a bunch of truth social posts, basically.

And I should not have aspirations to like actually get something new and coherent or that like moves the country forward or a real policy position from the president.

But when they were leaking to the press yesterday, you know, these are the four goals, like what

I thought, OK, we're going to hear it's two to three weeks left, the Stone Age line, and maybe there'll be something substantive.

But I'm sure the networks are looking around at themselves saying, obviously, we had to take it because Brendan Carr is going to come and assassinate us.