Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
SCOTUS Blocks Trump’s Deportation Efforts
Tue, 22 Apr 2025
Scott and Jessica unpack the Supreme Court’s decision to block Trump’s use of a centuries-old immigration law, the unraveling of Ukraine peace talks, and Pete Hegseth’s involvement in a second Signal chat sharing classified military plans. Plus, David Hogg sparks generational drama in the Democratic Party—does challenging seniority politics help or hurt the left? Follow Jessica Tarlov, @JessicaTarlov. Follow Prof G, @profgalloway. Follow Raging Moderates, @RagingModeratesPod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
What did the Supreme Court decide regarding Trump's immigration policy?
That there's a lot of people in prison, probably likely unnecessarily, unjustly, and there are a lot of nonprofits trying to work. on what is obviously an enormous issue. But in general, some basic tenants of our system are one, we enforce the Constitution, and two, we're willing to err on the side of making mistakes around innocence as opposed to guilt. And this is exactly the opposite.
We're saying, well, you know, people are actually, Republicans are actually going on media and saying, well, if a few people get locked up that shouldn't have been, it's worth it. No, that's not. That's not how, that is not the decision we as Americans have made.
We have decided that if we're gonna make mistakes, it's gonna be around some people don't get incarcerated that probably should be, as opposed to locking up people for having the wrong tattoo or because the administration never wants to admit a mistake and say they can't bring them back. These things are totally contrary to how America has operated for the last 250 years. Yeah. All right.
Senator Van Hollen visited Obrego Garcia in El Salvador and said his main goal was to check on Obrego Garcia's health and rights. But he was blocked at the prison gates before meeting him hours later at a hotel. What does it say about the U.S. and our relationship with El Salvador and our leverage when a sitting U.S. senator is denied access like that?
Well, I actually think that this is a bit of a happy story with how it ended up. And you could see President Bukele, the El Salvadorian president, almost in real time come to grips with the fact that they are losing the PR battle on this. And that's why they had to present Albrego Garcia. And then it's also come out now that he has been moved to
to, I guess, country club prison, El Salvador style. And he's no longer in Seacott because his name has been publicized everywhere. It's the story that's leading all the newscasts. And they know that if something happens to him and if he shows up looking beaten, bruised, or there was an expectation from a lot of people that he was probably dead. that is going to be a massive issue.
And El Salvador is completely dependent on America for aid. And if Bukele is smart, he's thinking, come 2028, we could have a different president, right, who doesn't share my passion for authoritarianism, and maybe we get cut off, right? There has to be life after Trump.
I mean, not according to Steve Bannon, but for the rest of us that live here on planet Earth, we have an expectation that we will have an election soon. And that we will get someone new and hopefully that new person is a Democrat. So what he did, though, was so classic dictator in terms of the propaganda, right? Setting up Albrecht Garcia.
So he's dressed very casually like he would be on a normal day. They have him wearing a hat to cover up the fact that they've shaved his head. And they put out the drinks, the so-called margaritas, right? And Van Hollen said, which I thought was a very interesting detail, that they made sure that Albrego Garcia's was a little bit less full than Van Hollen's.
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