
The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
Raging Moderates: Trump's Deportation Plans Backfire as Dems Hit Record Low
Tue, 18 Mar 2025
Scott and Jessica break down Chuck Schumer’s controversial vote on the spending bill, Trump’s defiance of a court order on deportations, and the escalating ceasefire talks between the U.S., Ukraine, and Russia. Plus, Scott and Jess are taking the show live on April 17th at 92nd Street Y in New York—grab your tickets now! https://www.92ny.org/event/scott-galloway-and-jessica-tarlov Follow Jessica Tarlov, @JessicaTarlov. Follow Prof G, @profgalloway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who are the hosts of Raging Moderates?
Welcome to Raging Moderates. I'm Scott Galloway.
And I'm Jessica Tarlov.
Jess, so this is going to be like every other show. You're going to have to carry it. I got home at about 2 a.m. last night from Mexico. Very jet lagged. Was up till 4. Took a Xanax. And I woke up about 10 minutes ago. Cool. And I'm feeling a little, I don't know. I feel like a Democratic member of the Senate. I don't know where I am. I just want soup.
And I'm looking for people to do my work for me. And I have just absolutely no understanding of my surroundings or the current situation. So back to you, Jess. What's going on?
Okay. Well, do you want to do a whole show about what it was like with little kids this weekend? Since you don't have the strength to fight me on this. And I can tell you about having my first fight with my husband about parenting in front of other couples. Yeah. with kids the same age. Did you guys ever do this? It's very uncomfortable. And they probably think we're getting divorced.
So uncomfortable fights are just part of it.
Yeah. Just lean in.
Yeah. Just lean in. And what was the... Let me help. So I'm very good at running other people's lives. Give me the situation. I'll tell you who is right, who is wrong, and what you need to do.
Okay. We're in a public place. It is quiet. But people are eating. So we're in like the cafeteria part of a Whole Foods having lunch with three three-year-olds and the respective parents. The kids start being really loud. disrupting other people, for sure. There are other kids there, but they're not making noise. They're younger than ours are.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of Schumer's spending bill vote?
And he said, this is the hill that I am willing to die on. You can't disrupt other people's lives. because of your children. So who's right, who's wrong, who's moving out, who gets to keep the house?
Sure. No, I understand. I understand. No, the real fissure here is between you and horrible couples who are those couples who decide they're not giving their kids screen time. Those are awful people.
No, they're not. Those are... They're lovely and their kids... aren't addicted to screens. They don't yell out for Moana in their sleep.
Yeah, those are the people that, oh, it's parenting and they shouldn't have screen time. Those are awful people. You need better friends, too. The real key here is you need to start hitting your children. That... immediately resets the operating system and brings a moment of shock, but a moment of peace to everything. And I'm in favor of giving them screen time. So first off, I totally empathize.
I go absolutely crazy when our kids... when our kids, my kids, or other kids are loud and distracting. If they're really loud and distracting, I think you take them outside and separate them from the rest of the crew. I have no patience for that. Also, it's a very difficult situation. Actually, I'm now being serious because the reality is
And I get accused of this a lot, and that is I decide I understand parenting when it's bothering me, but I'm not interested in participating in parenting when everything's fine. And so it's a little bit like selective parenting. But I think the good news is this is only going to happen to you about every two weeks for the rest of your marriage until the kids are out of the house.
So I think, and also I think your husband needs to realize as it relates to parenting, he's an influencer, not a decision maker. I have generally found, which is a bit of an abdication and I want to acknowledge that, but I've generally found that mom has just much better instincts around how to handle this stuff than dad. I'm a sexist that way.
I'll provide input around parenting decisions and then mom gets to make the decision because I find she's just more, much more in tune with the kids. But yeah, the way the kids behave in public is absolutely a point of tension for me because I think what he's doing is just, I think he's reflecting on his own shortcomings as a parent.
Thank you.
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Chapter 3: Why are Democrats upset with Chuck Schumer's decision?
He feels as a man, he's a disciplinarian. And when the kids are out of control, it's a poor reflection on him.
He also grew up hypersensitive to this, apparently. So I and I get it. My dad used to just pick us up and take us out of restaurants and say, like, Judy, my mom, you know, get the check. We'll be outside. And that's the end of it, which I would have understand. I mean, this wasn't, you know, like a high end restaurant. We were in the public space at Whole Foods. But I take the point.
Anyway, we ended up in a good place. And I appreciate your sexism when it's going in a feminist direction that you should try to always hang in that direction. But anyway, that was basically my weekend.
Yeah. So just recognize that kids ruin everything. Kids are the best thing that could happen to you that will ruin your life. And it does put a huge strain, I have found. There's actually, just to be serious for a moment, all the studies on happiness show that your least happy years are the years you're in, 25 to 45, specifically around child-rearing. You'll look back
On the period we have young children at home and reflect on that as the happiest time of your life. But what's interesting is in the moment, people without children are actually happier on average than people with children because of instances like this. But as they get older, I do find it gets easier and easier. Yours are 11 and 9?
Three and not even one. Have we met?
I knew that. Oh, you did?
Okay, that's a Mexico hangover joke. Okay. Yeah.
No, it gets much better. I know. There's a very...
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Chapter 4: How is the Trump administration defying court orders on deportation?
Now they're saying this is war.
I thought that was great. So, yeah, the graph that sort of indicates this is the very beginning of the last Trump administration in 17, 74% of Democrats wanted Democrats to work with Republicans and get things done. That number is now 42%. And there's a difference between being effective and being right, and right now we look neither.
It looks as if we are the gang that can't shoot straight between these ridiculous, feckless attempts to be angry at the Joint Address or march down to federal buildings and wave our cane. It's clear the leadership is divided and has no control over the caucus. They're responding late. One of the strategies that the GRU sort of invented and that Trump has adopted is flooding the zone.
Every day throw so much shit out that they react to and chase that we can slip through almost everything because they're not unified. They don't know which arrow to put their wood behind. And so let's announce we're letting the Tate brothers back into Florida. Everyone goes apeshit. Let's blame a helicopter crash on DEI. Everyone goes apeshit.
And they're not looking at kind of the bigger issues that America cares about or they could actually have some reasonable chance of pushing back on. America, quite frankly, over the last couple of weeks has been the nation of surrender. Trump surrendering to Putin and the Democrats surrendering to Republicans.
And his argument was that, look, Schumer's argument was that all we were going to do here was play into Trump and Musk's hands by closing the government, shutting it down,
Everyone in the government or nearly everyone in the government would be furloughed except where he could invoke some sort of emergency powers to keep air traffic controllers and effectively never end the furlough and essentially shut down the government. And they didn't want to let him do that. We're at that point where we need to take that risk.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the administration's actions on immigration enforcement?
Chapter 6: What future events do Scott and Jess plan?
In today's episode of Raging Moderates, we're discussing the Democrats' fury over Schumer's vote on the spending bill. Trump challenging the courts on deportations and the latest on Ukraine-Russia ceasefire talks. All right. Let's jump into it.
Last week, as the clock ran down to a potential government shutdown, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer found himself in a tough spot trying to balance a divided Democratic Party. His unexpected decision to support the GOP's stopgap funding bill sparked major backlash from House Democrats and members of his own caucus. who wanted a stronger stand against Trump's agenda.
The bill itself slashes about $7 billion in overall spending from fiscal 2024 levels, cutting $13 billion from non-defense discretionary programs while boosting defense spending by $6 billion. With no easy path forward, Schumer's choice has left Democrats questioning their strategy for the battles ahead in Schumer's volatile political climate.
What led to Schumer's decision to back the GOP funding bill? And do you think him folding was a misread? What do you think?
I'm very upset, like most Democrats are. And that's not because I don't think that we ended up in the correct place, because the calculation was, what's scarier? The government being open and them operating the way that we know, which is very bad, but we have an insight into it, versus the government is shut down and then they get to make the decisions on absolutely everything.
And it doesn't become Donald Trump's government. It doesn't become Elon Musk's government. It becomes Russ Vogt's government. The guy who's running OMB. The guy, the Project 2025 guy. The guy who... is the most dedicated to destroying the federal government, I think, of anyone in this administration. And he would decide who's essential and who's not. He could close entire bureaucracies.
And Democrats were worried about, well, how are we even going to get these open again? What is the path forward? So I understand the conundrum, and I think ultimately probably Schumer was right that The devil you know is better. But the way he went about this was totally feckless, totally spineless. He screwed over his caucus.
I mean, just 24 hours before he said that he was voting for the continuing resolution, he said they don't have the votes. And then all of these moderates, all of these Democrats that are in swing districts up for re-election, like John Ossoff in Georgia, for instance— came out against the continuing resolution, thinking that this was a unified front like it was in the House.
There was only one Democrat in the House, Jared Golden from Maine, who voted for it. Hakeem Jeffries had the caucus absolutely in line in this. And I think it's ultimately— and we're almost broken records about this— there's such a tremendous messaging problem about this continuing resolution. If you went out and asked people on the street— what the continuing resolution is.
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