Eric
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48 Hours
The Perplexing Death of Susann Sills
I woke up and my dad was just like on the covers, just laying there. Like there wasn't enough room to get in, I guess. So I just was laying there.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
Oh, yeah. Mid-century modern. It's my little office here.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
This is about 10 years ago. So there's a few characters, obviously my wife being one of them. She's kind of social butterfly, the opposite of me, Texas girl, Southern, everywhere we go, she's talking with people and people love her. She's adorable and got dimples, blonde hair. So Basically, wherever we go, she's finding friends and I'm trying to lose the friends she's making.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
And so we moved into our new house. We left the city of Rochester to move to a little town right on the outskirts of it. We were just so excited because it was tucked away. It was quiet, not a lot of hustle and bustle from the city. So we were just really excited to move in. The house was set back a little bit. So the driveway was a little bit longer than everyone else's.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
We get there and obviously we're making friends right away. My wife's talking with all the neighbors. Everyone's super nice. There's one particular neighbor right next door to us. Her name's Betty. She's about a 60-year-old Italian woman. Seems really sweet. We kind of hit it off talking at the end of the driveway, neighborly things. Everyone's really supportive in our neighborhood.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
And there was another neighbor across the street. His name's Randy. He was kind of like a bachelor guy, retired, but only like 47, 48 years old. So he retired kind of early. I think he worked for like the sheriff's department or something. Real nice guy. So late summer, we just moved in. The neighbor next door, Betty, brings over a gift. And it's a little broom, dustpan and a Frisbee.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
Oh, interesting mix. Yeah. We're like, OK, great. Thank you so much. That's nice. I found it odd because the only thing left in our house previously, you know, we moved in. It was empty. It was a couple of cans of paint and a dustpan and a broom and a Frisbee. What?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
But this is the only thing in the home. Weird. They moved out and left.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
I work a lot of evenings and weekends so I can come home and Mandy and Randy and Betty will be outside chatting, maybe having a little smoke break, having a cocktail, that kind of thing. Fall rolls around. Betty starts asking my wife, can you take out my dog once in a while when I'm running errands? They have a few cocktail hours, things like that. She's a stay-at-home mom, my wife.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
So it was just nice that she was hanging out with other retired people and had some company during the day and while I was at work and things. It was just a pretty typical fall, nothing too crazy. Winter rolls around and I'll shovel her driveway once in a while. Everyone's helping out.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
Randy comes by with his snowblower and we'll clear the end of each other's driveways after the big plow comes through and we're all helping each other out. Betty would ask my wife for a couple of rides to the doctor when it was snowing or things like that. And
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
That's when I was like, maybe you just tell her no once in a while, even if you're available, just to make sure we're not on a trajectory that's untenable. Yeah. Good fences make good neighbors kind of approach. Just another couple of things that sparked my curiosity in my office was in the front of the house.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
So I could kind of see at the end and Betty would stop the mailman and talk for like an hour to the mailman. I'm like, this is not sustainable here. You know, I just can't imagine like, why would the mailman wait that long? Maybe he's lonely. I don't know. He was a younger guy, but then the mailman started showing up in street clothes to her house. That's a little weird.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
I don't know if you're supposed to have a relationship with the mailman like that. So spring rolls around and I see an ambulance across the street at Randy's house there. And it turns out he died suddenly. Oh my goodness. At 48? Young guy, you know, he smoked 10 packs of cigarettes a day, it seemed like, and 30 coolers light a day kind of habit. So we weren't surprised.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
But I guess he had a heart attack, called his dad a few hours before saying he was having some issues and then passed away. That was really sad. He was a real nice guy. Missed him. And that's kind of when things got a little weird. We started seeing Betty in a robe all the time, not really out and about like she was walking her dog. She would just walk her dog to the end of the street.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
And then one day she just came out just yelling at kids playing basketball in the middle of the day. And I walked out there and was just like, you know, oh, hey, calm down and give yourself a heart attack. She was really worked up. Again, another checkmark.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
maybe things aren't as stable as we thought here and then she started yelling at us from the fence waiting for us to like drive by on the driveway and kind of yell right at the car she's yelling that my wife killed randy oh my god she has some theories yeah wow that we ruined the neighborhood everything was good until you arrived for like the bad luck or something.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
So that's when I was like, okay, no more connection. Let's just ignore. I had a 10 year old son at the time. I told him Betty's sick and we kind of left it at that. Well, early summer now, I came home late at night, pulled in the driveway, got out of my car and it was just terrible smell. This is bad. You know, is it my trash can or something?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
We're about 300 feet from one of the Great Lakes, so you can get some kind of terrible smells once in a while. It's summertime. I'm like, oh, that's weird, but I'm tired. It's late. I'll solve this problem tomorrow. Maybe we'll be gone. I wake up in the morning. I get some errands to run at Home Depot. I hop in my truck that was parked in the driveway the previous night.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
I still smell this terrible smell. I'm like, what is this? Look around, look in the trash can. I just can't seem to find it. I hop in the truck. I go to Home Depot. I take this road. It's through a park, very windy, 25 miles an hour. I'm driving on this road and someone just passes me, double line, shouldn't be passing me, gives me a dirty look. I'm like, what's going on?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
Sunday morning, everyone relax, keep driving. I come to a red light and I see this truck behind me and then he kind of backs up and then pulls alongside me. And this truck was like a farm truck. The doors don't match the paint. There's two gentlemen there. They're real kind of dirty guys. And he kind of makes this motion like a hitchhiker or something motion. Wasn't sure what exactly he was doing.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
The light turns green. I'm like, what is going on today? Why is everyone just looking weird? And I pull into the Home Depot. I go past the entrance. And again, I just noticed everyone looks so angry today. I'm just so confused. Pull into a parking spot. step out of my truck. I took a few steps and it just, it hit me, the smell. And I looked down and tied to my bumper. Is a dead animal.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
Oh, my God. I've been dragging this animal through my town on a Sunday morning. Through my town. And everyone's trying to tell me. And that's why everyone's so angry and passing me.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
First, I thought it was my cat.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
And I was in shock. Did get a closer look. It was a raccoon. Wow. It was tied around its neck with like a USB cable and then like a wired mouse then attached to my bumper. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my God. Wow. And again, I'm looking around. Everyone's looking at me. I got nothing to say. I'm in shock. You know, people are clenching their kids in the Home Depot parking lot.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
Like, look at this monster dragging roadkill. And then I'll call him the Home Depot angel. The guy who's collecting the carts comes over, kind of breaks the silence as the crowd is gathered around me. And I'm unsure what to do. Everyone else is unsure what to do. And just looks at me and goes, looks like he caught something. Oh, that's a nice icebreaker, I guess. Yeah, he's there to help.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
And he's like, no worries, man. I'll be right back. Comes back with a bucket and a shovel. We cut this guy loose.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
And he scoops him up, puts him in the bucket. Oh. And he's like, I'll take care of this. I'll throw it in the dumpster.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
I was in shock. What I did is a few days later, I gave him a good review. Oh, my God.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
put pieces together and realized that she must have at night, her or someone, maybe the mailman.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
Possibly to put this kind of roadkill attached to my truck underneath so that I wouldn't see it until I pulled out and pulled away. And then I just went down to the police station the next day and was like, I'm not concerned about this woman hurting us, but that's a lot of diseases on this raccoon. Yeah.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
She moved a few years after that. And then we moved a few years after she left.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
They came over to the house. The police talked with her and some of the other neighbors. I just think about all the signs. Everyone is kind of warning us. Even the previous owner of the home kind of just left what they gave her, right?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
She said something about it being good luck. It gives someone a broom or something. So they're saying it was good luck and then the people leaving it behind.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
Oh my God, that is so funny. I was not bringing that to my next home.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
It was very interesting. Wow. I thank you for letting me tell that story. Hopefully it was somewhat interesting. Oh, it's incredible.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
My wife really got me into armchair expert. We pretty much only listen when we go on road trips and she kind of created a monster. She's like, you know, can we listen to music once in a while? I'm ready to binge on experts on experts and she needs a little bit of tunage and relaxation in between. Oh, that's delightful.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
Yeah. Can she pop in and say hello?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
My beautiful Southern bride. Her name's Mandy. Hi.
Coder Radio
586: Mike's Clone Army
Oh, my first line in a coat that's bright. Found simplicity in a world that's tight Concurrency's smooth, it's out of sight In gold we trust, it's a coder's delight Memories clean, no garbage in sight Gloriotines run like a horse in the night Static type that makes the airs light. In gold we code and our futures bright. Hey, with gold we're building dreams. Light and fast it reigns supreme.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
In this language clear and lean. Gold with the flow, it's a coder's dream.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
And I figured, oh, OK, why not just get that VM from the Linux team? What could go wrong? And so, yeah, I administered a server to deploy these apps on for years. It got so popular that I became in way over my head, even though I am a Linux geek on the side. I run Linux everywhere, but And over time, we ended up getting an enterprise product for that.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
But it just goes to show you this opens so many doors for people. And now a huge part of my day job is to build these really slick, you know, interactive applications that may use R as a front end only or may interact with HPC environments. But R is the foundation to tie all that together is absolutely amazing.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
You absolutely can. Yeah, absolutely. I've done that. I've done very business intelligence-like looking dashboards with some of the latest and greatest in their bootstrap design toolkit that they're exposing now.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
all the way to, like I said, these really comprehensive end-to-end, take your data, tune an algorithm, launch the analysis on a cloud or internal HPC cluster, and bring it all back with some interactive like Plotly-based visualizations or other types of interactive displays and let the users download that for a standalone report. It's all possible, and it's absolutely amazing how all that works.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Okay, and I'm assuming because R is not really OO, right? There are parts of it that are, absolutely. Oh, there are? And there are different ways to do it. That's what gets really interesting.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
And we'll make sure to link in the show notes for those that want to get into the internals of R. Hadley Wickham, who is arguably one of the most prolific R package developers in the community, wrote this book as a way for him to kind of share the way he's been developing on the language. It comes with a paradigm called S3 under the hood.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
which kind of has it's it's in between a traditional object oriented programming and a more of a expressive language. And it does some things that may make a purist programmer think, why the heck is it doing that with nonstandard evaluation and the like? But then it's got other systems that are more rigorous and also extension packages that are trying to bring it a little more rigor, such as R6.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
And there's a new one out there called S7 that's trying to consolidate it all together. So it's got a long history. And depending on your needs, you might do one system versus the other. The S3 system is great for just the interactive data analysis, get my data frame in, do a quick plot on it, do a quick table on it, and you can write it in very few lines of code.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Whereas the more rigid structure is great for, as I said, these web application development, these more comprehensive packages that are doing a lot of internal processing. That's where things like R6 and this new S7 system are coming to play here.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
No, you get to choose your own adventure here. So I would say, yeah, the flexibility of how R is built in terms of what I call its base install are absolutely tailor-made for those interactive data analysis. You might be familiar with Jupyter Notebooks or IPython type workflows.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
When you combine R with a package called R Markdown, you get that very similar experience of creating these dynamically created reports with interactive code chunks, but it's very expressive in that language, absolutely.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
Yeah, so RStudio kind of came about 12, 13 years ago where there had been attempts at IDEs in R before, and some worked decently well on specific operating systems. Heck, of all things, I remember there was a plug-in to Notepad++, of all things, to interact with R for the Windows users.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Hey, Notepad++ got me through grad school before I learned Linux, so my goodness. There you go. But RStudio came around as kind of building an IDE that was literally tailor-made for R itself instead of trying to be a generalist. And it's had its place. I won't lie. It definitely helped adoption of R in the enterprise, having that first-in-class IDE that you can install.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Very likely. It's going to take care of everything for you, having like the code editor, the interactive help browser, you know, installing packages for point and click and looking at visualizations. Yeah, you can do all sorts of wonderful things there. The company behind RStudio, like I said, they rebranded the Posit.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
They have launched a new IDE called Positron, which, get this, is a variant of VS Code. Who would have thought? But it is happening. It's so in beta right now, but it's trying to be, you might say, a generous home for more than R itself for data science, so i.e.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
You could say that. And it's taking the best of VS Code but putting their own spin on top of it to make it more tailored to that RStudio-like experience. It's coming a long way. It's got a lot of potential. I am using it as kind of like a dev test for some open source projects. And because of the extension system, you can make that anything you want.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
So I think they built this as a way that they learned from RStudio that, yeah, it was great for R. But the reality is, Mike, as much as I am an R evangelist, a lot of people love interoperability. They love to hop back and forth between R and Python or R and Observable or R and other frameworks. Positron is their way to make that a reality under their toolkit. Interesting.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
You know, and I admit it somewhat doesn't sit well with me at some point. But then again, I can't deny that it is up the game of so many dev stacks. Oh, yeah. And I was an early adopter of it, too, when that R extension came out for VS Code. And in fact... Another thing that kind of changed my dev life about a few years ago was the idea of dev containers in VS Code.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
So then I could potentially not even have R on my host system, but via Docker in the dev container, install R, install the packages, install extensions, and have it be a self-contained environment. I couldn't believe it, but it actually worked.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
That is a testament in and of itself. And I've actually been playing with WSL as well, of all things, for a really important external collaboration to get an R environment with Docker installed as a test for our colleagues in regulatory. So there's lots of great opportunities with this type of technology. And R is definitely well suited for those workflows, as I found out. So good.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
You literally said it. It is. There is a package called RM to help fill that gap for a given project. This is a good example here is there may be a project that I have where it's literally more of a traditional data analysis, get a report out, send it to a stakeholder, but do it through our scripts or in our markdown report or more recently a Quarto engine, which we can talk about sometime.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
But then I have different needs for these shiny apps where it is a software stack, right? I have dependencies that are going to be tailor made to that shiny app that that other project does not care about. So our end is kind of like ours answer to, you know, pip or virtual environments. I'll be it. I think they do it a bit cleaner.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
But again, I'm biased, but it has been a huge help to making sure that for a given project, especially for my day job stuff. I can be assured that I can have that dependency library self-contained in that project. And no matter what happens on the host Linux infrastructure with what I'll call the central library of our packages, that particular RM project is isolated.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
I can do whatever I want with that. I can opt into package upgrades. I can opt into package downgrades. But I get that flexibility. And without RM, I do think R would be in much worse straits for production use. So it has become a huge part of my toolbox to make sure that I'm doing effective dependency management. Is it perfect? Like I said, nothing's perfect, Mike.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
But it sure is a heck of a lot better than trying to manage these R libraries yourself and hope for the best that you got that symlink correct when you're loading that into your R session.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Yeah, yeah. I've had nightmares upon nightmares when somebody asked me to help debug what's going on, where they load a package and they say, wait, it can't be loaded. And wait, I thought I installed it. No, it's because you had this weird cryptic version in your home library that's masking the LDD libraries that the hero package should be loading.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
I'm more of a honey person, but boy, oh boy, I'm glad to be here. We both were in pretty dire straits earlier when we wanted to record this, so I am super thrilled to be on here.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Oh, yeah, the immense pain from that. And I wish at my day job they would let me have a Linux-powered laptop. Unfortunately, it is Mac, and I've done my best to play that game, but I am so spoiled by what I can do on my home environment with my Thaleo running. Now it's running NixOS, but Ubuntu before that, I had so much more control over it. You're a Nix convert, are you?
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
It took a bit, but ironically, I'll bring it back to R here. There is a great person in the community named Bruno Rodriguez has made a package called Rix that will let you install development environments in R via Nix packaging. It is absolutely mind boggling that this all works. I've been beta testing that already has some good success with it.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
And by the way, for those listeners, this is actually not the first time that Michael and I have had a conversation on various podcasts in the past, especially our love for a spiky-haired blue mascot and the company around them. But as a lifelong listener of Coda Radio from episode one, this is a super thrill to be here.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
And I got big plans to hopefully bring that to industry later on because I think it's a game changer as well.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Yeah, and I was skeptical, just like many other people, but of course, shout out to our friends at Jupyter Broadcasting. They're the ones that first hooked me into it, and I thought, well, that's great for the early adoption of Linux in general, but What about data signs? What about R? And then Bruno comes along and does this Rix thing. I'm like, are you kidding me?
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
So then I install, I'm like, oh my gosh, this actually works. Oh, mind blown. Okay.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
I would say understand that there can be a lot of variability in terms of how certain workflows are conducted just at the lower level. So as I mentioned, one of our greatest strengths is the community of packages, right? Well, even in the realm of just data processing and data munging, There are like different avenues you can take with that.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
There is what's become known as the tidyverse family of packages that try to have a more unified syntax or how you do that end-to-end data ingestion, munging, processing, visualization in a very literal pipeable type of syntax. But then you've got other languages that are leveraging or other packages that
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
leveraging, say, C++ on the backend to do more sophisticated processing, but with their own kind of DSL inside. So you might get overwhelmed if you try to use all this at once. It's good to try things out and then see what style suits you best. Because like in the realm of data processing, there's a great package called data.table that has been one of the mainstays in R for years and years.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
But its DSL is completely different than what this tidyverse family of packages offers to you. So I'd say be prepared for that variation. But once you find something, don't feel bad about sticking with it. I know lots of great developers and statisticians, data scientists out there that love the data.table approach and more power to them.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
I personally think the Tidyverse approach is a bit more intuitive to a new data scientist and a new person coming to R. But you have choice, right? It's just like Linux. You have all these choices for what you want to start developing in. So I'd say just be prepared for that flexibility.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
And once you find something, don't feel ashamed about sticking with it because you can do lots of awesome things. with so many parts of the language. It almost makes my head spin when I do this podcast every week and seeing what people are doing that I had no idea was even possible. So the choice is good, in my opinion.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
That's all they do. Because that's all they want to do now, I know.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Every time I think we covered it, there's something new to talk about there.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Wow. I knew one of these would happen, but this is opening my eyes to a whole new world here. This is really cool. And these folks are extremely passionate.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Oh, man. So many hours back in grad school, I was honking on that between breaks and classes. That was an amazing time. Sneaking that in my Jansport backpack. Oh, dude. Rock a Jansport. Rock it.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
Yeah, it's actually been a few different things. I started in podcasting with literally DR Podcast, so no one can take that away from me. It was the first one ever way back in 2012, 2011. I remember I started that one year before my first kid was born. And then, as you well know, life changes quite a bit after.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
Oh my goodness. Just imagine hooking this up. You know, we didn't really get to it, but I had my adventures in live streaming a few years ago and I would occasionally play hot shot racing on my stream and well, shout out to Martin Winpress for getting me in that racing league a few years ago. But nonetheless, just imagine having like this as some fun break between dev work and streaming that out.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
No, I have not. I may have heard the term once or twice before, but you've literally just opened my eyes to this very tantalizing new world.
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608: R With Eric Nantz
And what honestly this means to me is that this would be the closest you could ever get to say one of your kids being introduced to what the Game Boy was like with an actual physical cartridge instead of you just throwing the ROMs on an SD card or something and really just get that feel for what it really was like for the old timers like us, Mike. I mean, this is really neat.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
No, I think our eight-year-olds are probably very close in age, because I remember when you mentioned that on the old Coder Radio, my kid was born a few weeks apart, so I imagine everything is similar here. He is addicted to Minecraft, and I'm afraid you're right. Within five minutes, he's like, where's Minecraft?
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
You get a kid and whatnot. But yeah, that was my first foray. And honestly, I started it as a way to It was almost like learning out loud, as they say. I was still pretty new to R at the time, but I figured, well, Linux podcasts have helped me immensely in my journey in grad school. Why not be the first to do this? So that was my first foray in sharing my love for R out there.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
I did. I did. And it was tough at first because there is a very well-known plugin for Emacs called ESS for Emacs statistics that I did use for a good year or so back. And this is well before that RStudio IDE came out. And I was looking for a way on our Linux environment at work to kind of have that. you know, terminal-ish like experience, but yet have an IDE like experience.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
And at that time, Emacs and ESS got me so close. But I tell you what, those keyboard shortcuts just royally made me, you know, so confused. So then once I started to learn Vim a bit better, which was admittedly easier to do for quick text processing, I never looked back, Mike. I have to say I saw the light.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
I do admit I have a very close colleague at the day job. If he hears this, he's probably going to read me fits because he is like the one Emacs user in our group. So sorry, the other Michael that might be listening to this, but it is what it is. He knows it.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
You're not wrong there either, but yeah, I can see where you're coming from.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
It's not a direct parallel, but sometimes when you look at all these lower-level JavaScript frameworks, it just makes your head spin almost equally similarly. So that's why I'm glad I know enough that I need to be dangerous, so to speak, but I don't have to be the ninja of all the 1,000 JavaScript frameworks out there. I just know enough to get the job done.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
And then since then, I've done a couple of different things. And my most current one is called R Weekly Highlights, where we talk about the latest happenings in the community and kind of a news and discussion format. And it's been awesome.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Oh, the many hours I've wasted trying to learn that system. My gosh.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Yeah, cruft or crud is an understatement. But yeah, ironically, there are some R packages out there that try to be a front end to bringing those custom frameworks of JavaScript in. One called Packer, I believe there's other ones out there. And I tried them a bit, but they still even made my head spin.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
So when I just do my Shiny app development, if I need some JavaScript, it's still vanilla JavaScript for the little custom thing I have to do very rarely.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
But I will say the other great innovation recently that I've been hooked on, maybe you're not quite as hooked on it as I am, is WebAssembly is now starting to take the data science community by storm, even in the R community. I do like WebAssembly.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Absolutely, yes. There is a package called WebR. to help bring these bindings and combine with a package called Shiny Live, where I could take a Shiny app and make it like a traditional Shiny app, but with Shiny Live, automatically create the manifest needed to make it a WebAssembly-powered app.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
And with the right runtime, just boot it up in your web browser, local host it with a port, and you are done.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
off to the races and i cannot believe how cool that is i even shared a web assembly power shiny app with the fda of all people in a pilot submission we're waiting to get feedback on it but even they are excited about it and you know how regulatory can be they could be a bit slow on the uptake but no they're excited about this that's shocking i mean you're selling them something new and they're not like well to call you back in 18 24 months
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Oh, I had all the expectations. This is going to be like, yeah, Eric, that's a great idea, but not for like 10 years. But no, they're like, you think you can do it? I'm thinking we could try. And sure enough, we can. So yeah, I changed my dev life there too.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
So what is R? Yep, we could be here all day for that, but I'll keep it pretty brief here. It actually has its origins much like Unix itself from Bell Labs in another language called S that was jointly developed by John Chambers and some other great developers way back in the 1970s. as a way to have a pretty domain-specific expressive language for statistical analysis and data processing.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
I mean, I can say that. Yeah. You better watch yourself, Mike. You may jinx everything for us.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Yeah. Recently, when I was having that adventure in the live streaming stuff, those stream decks are pretty darn useful, not just for live streaming. That can actually automate a lot of cool stuff on your system with a point click of a button. I was not sold on it, but then people like, like I said, Martin Winpress and others convinced me and I bought one of those and now I got...
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
through linux a way to map you know custom shortcuts to it even without nix os of all things so i can launch a program launch any arbitrary set of commands it is that one unexpectedly changed my my workflow a bit so yeah the stream the stream deck is is right here on my system i'm here to stay oh man i i uh i'm definitely thinking he'll get it one
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Yeah, I mean, I do have a bigger model and that was over 200 when I bought it. So maybe the smaller models in between that more elegant range or more accessible range. But again, once I started using it, it's hard to imagine life without it. So it ain't just for the streamers, folks. It can actually help your dev workflow too.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Yeah, you got it. You got it. And with these programs, they can interface with any number of these screens they could toggle back and forth with all the button mapping. So yeah, cover me convinced. I was skeptic, but it's here to stay. I love it.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Oh, you know me. I'm always eager to talk shop on data and any other Linux geekery out there. And by the way, as you said on the outset, the Discord for Coda Radio, it's happening, folks. You should definitely join there if you haven't already. I love it there. But yeah, if you want to find me, first, my podcast is called Our Weekly Highlights. We'll have a link to that in the show notes.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
But if you can find me on social media, I am on three major things. Blue Sky with at our podcast at BSKY.social. I'm on Mastodon with at our podcast at Podcast Index.social. And I'm on LinkedIn from time to time. Just search my name and you'll find me there. Sounds good.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
And that's the whole gamut, too. You've been getting some great feedback on the show since the revamp and lots of great tech questions out there. And of course, we're going to throw our love for little Sonic and Sega there, too, from time to time.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Oh, always a pleasure, Mike. I'm really glad to be here. And best, you know, great success on the future episodes. And I'll be one of the first to listen every week. Sounds great. Talk to you soon. Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
And fast forward quite a few years, there were changes in how S was licensed. It became part of a vendor after that.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
And then in the mid-1990s, two gentlemen at the University of Auckland in New Zealand, Ross Ahaka and Robert Gentleman, were inspired by S and decided to make an open source language that was basically taking the best of the S language and making it completely open source and community developed. And that became R. And so it's got a long history. But honestly, fastening forward to today,
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
R is standing on the shoulders of open source and the fact that, yes, R itself has everything you need to do a nice data analysis, visualization, import data. It's a community of over 25,000 packages at the time we're talking here. They can turn R into almost absolutely anything of what the language you want to do. I have lots of ideas on where this is going in the future.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
And it's greatly helped me in my daily work. And it's super inspiring to see just how far the community has taken the R language itself and to be able to do some really cool stuff with it across the board.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
You bet. In fact, they call it the Comprehensive R Archive Network, or CRAM for short, where basically you boot up R. You could say install.packages and put the name of the package, download it on the spot. Now, there are some really important differences to note between CRAN and, say, PyPy or RubyGems. CRAN is curated by humans, i.e. the R core team.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
So it's not just like you have an idea for the package, you write some R code, you ship it out and get it installed right away. You have to pass a lot of checks to make that happen. And there are automated ways to do that. But they're running the checks on their side, too. But admittedly, you were talking about kind of the Rust controversy on the Linux kernel.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
There is a bit of controversy, I would say, from time to time on the CRAN network where some packages do get archived for sometimes some very esoteric reasons that actually have nothing to do with the package itself.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
I did use Emacs back in the day. I knew it. Rejected, gone. Rejected, gone, yeah. Since I've seen the way with Vim, but that's another story.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Oh, we will. Yeah, so there was actually a package that was archived a couple weeks ago by a good friend of mine in the developer community, not because his package had a problem, but because a dependency package that his package used. had a problem with a bin bash prompt of all things. You'll have to listen to the latest R Weekly episode for our details on that.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Nonetheless, my point here is that there are some advancements to make our packaging a bit more modern to take the best of PiPi and parts of CRAN and try to make a more... I'll say clear system for contribution. Some of those are called our universe and a new one that's coming in the works called multiverse that I'm keeping an eye on. So CRAN has had its warts over the years.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
It still would not be where it is today without it. But we're seeing some modern approaches that I think are going to take the language to another level in the near future here.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
So the good news is your app as it is, if you don't need to change it, can still be used as is. What happens is if you needed to update anything and you try to install that.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Yeah, an ongoing thing. If you try to install it again, R itself will get mad at you and say, oh, that's not available anymore. And there's a custom way to get an archive of a package. It's more convoluted, but it is technically possible. But it is an issue that could affect people, especially, like you said, in an ongoing project.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
or a production setting where you have to update your dependencies. But that's where, again, some of these projects like our universe are stepping in to give a more automated way to host these packages with a slightly more automated structure, but with best practices. on top of that. So I'll make sure I'm linking to that in the show notes. So it's an interesting time.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
But yeah, R is not without its controversies, just like any big open source language.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
You know, I dare say there may have been one attempt at trying to get this distributed as a malware setup and it was shot down faster than a snap. So yeah, that is obviously one benefit of having this human in the loop. So that's why I can't discount their importance.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Albeit there have been some rather esoteric, questionable reasons why certain packages got flagged, whether they're new or they've been existing for over 10 years and in some esoteric build. cough, cough, Solaris, ends up having a hissy fit about it.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Yep. And truth be told, many of the users of R are just going to install a package the moment they see it mentioned on a blog or whatever setting. So it is advantageous that it is on a reputable repository, but R does let you install packages from GitHub directly if you're inclined. And yeah, that's where you have to have a little more of a careful eye, so to speak.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Yeah, I mean, certainly, like I said, it had its roots in academia, like I said, at University of Auckland and others in that space. But I would say in the last 10 years, certainly in the last five years, there's been explosive growth in how art can stand, you know, hand in hand, shoulder to shoulder with some of the other languages, as someone might typically say, is a production ready language.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
We are going to mention the infamous Python. I'm sure as we go along here, the knock has always been, well, R is great to prototype that algorithm, but you got to put it in Python for production, right? I think those days are over. I think we have enough tooling, enough resources, and enough experience with putting R in highly important positions.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
production workflows, whether it's for machine learning, whether it's for web applications, which I'd love to talk about. And now, even in the future, there are even R packages that are interfacing with the rest of all things. So there is lots of opportunities to use R in production now, and it's really exciting.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
It was only a matter of time, right? It was only a matter of time.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Call me jaded by all the virtual environment garbage I've had to endure over the years.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Oh, yes, there is. It was about maybe 10 years ago or so at this time, a new R package came out from a company that at the time was called RStudio. Now they've been rebranded as Posit.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
but they had developed a package called Shiny, which was a way to take a React-like expressive web language or paradigm for developing web apps and bring that to as an R package so that with just straight up functions, I could create an interactive dynamic web app without having to know a lick about JavaScript, CSS, or the like. It changed my dev life.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
I've always been curious about doing cool things on the web. And in grad school, I did some very archaic things with PHP and MySQL on the back end for some grad school projects. Don't get me started on PHP. Oh, gosh.
Coder Radio
608: R With Eric Nantz
Oh, lots of wars on that one. But then when Shiny came around and I was able to build this little Hello World app with an interactive histogram with a slider input, I could not believe it. I just could not believe it. So then I quickly show some colleagues at work about this. Suddenly they want me to spin up a server to host these apps.
The Mel Robbins Podcast
5 Ways to Actually Make Your Habits Stick
Hi, Mel. My name is Eric. How do I create habits that will stick? So once I keep going, I'll stay with it. I want to make it easier.
The Moth
The Moth Radio Hour: Beef
I misspelled the word did in the first grade spelling bee. The thing is, I didn't actually misspell it. I stuttered at the beginning because I was nervous and was counted for using multiple Ds. I don't know where the teacher is who counted me out, but I hope she's miserable.
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
Cool. What do you all do for a living?
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
And then I'm a math teacher in middle school.
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
Pretty much everything. We had a truck loan and we ended up paying off our house too. Oh, it's your house and everything.
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
I just accidentally fell into that.
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
oh about 150 probably okay awesome very good so all right uh 165 and you paid off cars and house and what else credit cards pretty much everything yeah we were we were normal basically you had everything yeah everything you signed up for it all and you got rid of all of it yeah before we got married um i had a bunch of debt kelsey didn't have any and i brought all that to the table and thankfully she had well okay she didn't know about all that stuff but we ended up um working together to pay it off so how long y'all been married
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
just uh seven years last week our anniversary was just this past week so all right and so seven years a couple years you limp along and then you go okay boom we're getting on this yeah covid came around and i was coaching and teaching and i ended up delivering pizzas because i didn't think coaching was going to be a thing for a little while and at that point we're like we gotta we gotta do something about this and we had listened to some of the show we just never got really serious about it and
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
Absolutely. And so we decided, we're like, we got to take care of this. And we ended up, we were thinking it was going to be another couple years with the house, and Kelsey's grandmother left us an inheritance. So we ended up finishing off a little bit sooner than what we had planned, but it wasn't too much longer.
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
It was just a lot of not very smart decisions going along. But I think, like you guys talk about a lot, it's just being normal and doing what people think is right.
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
Having all the trucks and the cars and the fancy things. And we finally decided, we're like... We'll live like nobody else so we can live and give like nobody else later on.
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
Well, I got to teach a course last year, and I was like, I can actually teach to this now because I'm following the process. It's like kids are always like, when am I ever going to use this in my life? Well, I was like, well, you can't. Negative numbers are a real thing. And the bigger those negatives get, the harder it is to come back the other direction.
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
So I'm obviously the nerd in our household. So Kelsey's more of this free spirit.
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
I think the biggest thing is just being on the same page.
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
We got the EveryDollar budget app probably three years ago, and it really accelerated that process for us.
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
And arguments that sometimes come with those surprises.
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
and working together staying together yeah all right very good so now you're 30 years old 36 years old you don't have a single payment yeah of any kind anywhere how does that feel well we've already been able to add a line item to our budget that just says giving and giving three or four hundred dollars every month to people that like that need stuff like we can help out not have to worry about doing those and also being able to spend i know the people before us were talking about shopping we get to
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
We're talking about maybe going to the Opry on Wednesday night and listening to all the big-name country music artists.
The Ramsey Show
Hope Is the Difference Between Victim and Victor
It's a really good show, by the way. Being able to do stuff like that is just that freedom that you guys talk about.
The Ramsey Show
Don’t Let Your Present Reality Define Your Future
Okay, so my daughter purchased a home probably last year. with the understanding that in three years she would leave the house to me and her mom once she's got a new position on her job. Well, it come up a little sooner than we thought. So she's wanting to leave the house to me and her mom, but we can't afford the mortgage. So she was wanting to put
The Ramsey Show
Don’t Let Your Present Reality Define Your Future
$50,000 to $70,000 down on the house and get the mortgage lower so we could afford it. But she was told since she has an FHA loan that she could not put that much down and get the payment lower. So her next option would be to sell the home and to give us the $50,000 to $70,000 to put down on us a home, but our Credit is not up to par yet. But what do you suggest?
The Ramsey Show
Don’t Let Your Present Reality Define Your Future
She makes pretty good money. She's not there where she wants to be yet, but she makes pretty good money.
The Ramsey Show
Don’t Let Your Present Reality Define Your Future
She's moving out of state, and she was going to rent. An apartment.
The Ramsey Show
Don’t Let Your Present Reality Define Your Future
Well, no, we all stand there together.
The Ramsey Show
Don’t Let Your Present Reality Define Your Future
She was going to leave. Yes, yes. Oh, okay. We all live there together.
The Ramsey Show
Don’t Let Your Present Reality Define Your Future
Right. That's what we was thinking as well.
The Ramsey Show
Don’t Let Your Present Reality Define Your Future
We have probably $15,000 in debt. Okay.
The Ramsey Show
Don’t Let Your Present Reality Define Your Future
Okay. That's what we were thinking as well.
The Ramsey Show
Don’t Let Your Present Reality Define Your Future
It was her idea. We had our own spot. We had a townhome. We lived in the house, and She was begging us to move in with her. She didn't want to stay there by herself, and she was going to leave the house to us. We thought long and hard about it, and we just went ahead and did it. I guess I was better judgment, but that's where we're at now.
The Ramsey Show
Don’t Let Your Present Reality Define Your Future
Man, I hope that helps. Thank you.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
So we've paid off $283,000. Yeah. How long did that take? Took us two years and eight months.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
Yes, sir. So we started out at $189,000, and we finished at $240,000. Way to go. What do you all do for a living? I work for a mortgage lender, actually. I lead a sales team.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
I wish I could take credit for it. It was more Cassie than it was me, Dave.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
Retirement, we've got about $500,000 for mine. And then I think on the way over here, we said you had around $200,000.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
Young millionaires. Yeah. So proud of y'all. Thank you.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
you know cars or the house or how do we do this we just didn't know right if if we did then we wouldn't have been yeah in debt um and so we looked at our cars read you know the book yeah total money makeover is kind of what what got us sold into it dave we started listening to your program and really just made a commitment to each other um you know it's a team uh not not individuals it's
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
both of us together, setting goals and then really holding each other accountable. One of the stories that we kind of laugh about as I was walking around Cabela's with my brother Andy, and he came across a real Dave Ramsey tweet. Well, it wasn't real, but it said, life short by the boat. And we laughed.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
Yeah. We laughed when we saw it, and so I sent it to Cassie, and she started panicking. She said, I can't believe Dave would say that. There's no way. Everything on the Internet is true. Abraham Lincoln said that.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
That's right, and I think the point of sharing that story is the temptation is real to really deviate from the plan, but really making a commitment to each other, setting a clear goal, and then using the seven baby steps to work all the way through it. Life is short, but don't buy the boat. Really pay off the debt.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
Yeah. So I think both of us were really, you know, when we had that meeting in January of 23, it's really trying to figure out how to tackle it. And of course, we had heard of the Ramsey show before, but we hadn't read the book. We really hadn't listened much to the radio program. So it was really just trying to think, what are some logical steps we can do to really start tackling this debt?
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
And really where we started to struggle was, you know, what do we pay off first? Like we said, we both work in banking and we thought, well, the interest rate's higher on the you know, on the house than the cars, you know, would it make sense to tackle the house first or how do we do it? And really looking at the seven baby steps really answered that question for us.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
And it was really a very simple, straightforward plan that we knew we could do together. And so reading Total Money Makeover was really what sold us together on that. And then, of course, we've become listeners since then too and really enjoy your show.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
Right, and Dave, it seems so normal, I think, people become comfortable with debt. It's so normal to have an auto loan. It's so normal to have a mortgage loan, and it doesn't have to be. And I think that's something that as we read your book and listen to your show, We shouldn't just accept that as normal, and both of us work hard. We make good money.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
We've always managed our money fairly well, but we fell into that trap of, well, doesn't everybody have an auto payment? Doesn't everybody have a mortgage loan? You don't have to live like that. It's a very simple program, very simple steps, straightforward, and you can conquer it.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
Yeah, we're just excited to be new parents. We have that weight lifted off our shoulders. We're just excited.
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
right so it feels great and to anybody that's listening you can do it um it's it's it seems insurmountable when you start but if you just take it one step at a time create a budget that was key after we paid off the house or paid off the cars because we could do that it was the budget um yeah and you start seeing where all this is going yeah i mean we make you guys make a quarter million dollars you know where the flip is we're making too much money to be this broke that's right so how are you going to celebrate what's next
The Ramsey Show
Skip the Scams, Build Real Wealth
Well, we're preparing to be parents. So we got really crazy, went to dinner when we paid our house off, which was really, really nice.
The Severance Podcast with Ben Stiller & Adam Scott
S2E8: Sweet Vitriol (with Patricia Arquette and Jimmy Kimmel)
Hi, this is Eric, and I have a question about the egg episode and how it relates to other foods you may have eaten on set. Curious to know what maybe disgusting, revolting foods you've eaten on a set, and if there are any plans to force actors to eat disgusting things in future episodes of Severance. Love the show. Thanks.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
No, I never saw that. It's like a Midnight Express type. That movie's awesome. Drugs, they get arrested. Vaughn is fucking heavyweight in that.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
If you want to see some shit you really can't do, John Wayne Gacy the Clown. That guy was doing some cutting edge shit. Oh, yeah.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Look, I'm not a fan, just you might die. Yeah. That's how you say it.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Oh, nice. I feel like Tim Blake Nelson, like he's not enough stuff. I feel like he's always really good, right?
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
I love that movie. Great movie. That's a great wreck. I was thinking The Ballad of Buster Scruggs.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Ted Bundy, people like. Ted Bundy. Yes. Oh, yeah, he's not sexy. But he's like overrated, kind of. For a killer, he's hot. For a killer, he's attractive, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
That's money. I never did it once. My brother had that poster up when he was a kid. It was just on his bed. No, no, no. It was like a photograph, but it was a different version. It was them in the car, and it just said Vegas.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
That's the best. Is this like going to be in theaters or? Oh, yeah.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Stav and I always talk about that because I guess back in the day, the actor William Peterson was offered Platoon. And he was just like, and he did some shitty movie in L.A. instead. I think he was like, I could bang models in L.A. or I could get yelled at by Oliver Stone in Vietnam. I know, right? It's like, which one do you go with? Yeah. He probably made the right choice for him.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Wait, he escaped from prison? Oh, yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, by the way, he was in the woods or something. He was so good, he could just charm you. Yeah. He's in a prison outfit. He's like, no, that's not me. Yeah. These aren't the droids you're looking for. When people lie... That kind of shit. Yeah. When people lie to your face that convincingly, you're just like, maybe I'm crazy.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Pizzolatto. Peterson did make fucking Manhunter. That's a sick movie. Oh, yeah. Wait, who made it? He was in Manhunter. Oh, yeah. The little man movie. That's a great show.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Cut to that vet murdering me. How was the shoot? We beat up a veteran. Not great.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
He'd be a good podcast guest. He'd be great. He's kind of gone full conspiracy.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
I mean, was he ever not? He made so many, he made The Doors, JFK. I mean, he's always been doing.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
earth girls are easy and league of their own no she's and she's in mensa she's an oh really smart motherfucker oh shit thelma and louise oh yeah she won an oscar for that right she won an oscar for something that movie is so much darker than you think oh yeah you think it's good you just think of the fun i don't know why i thought it wasn't going to be darker because the scene that we all know is i'm just driving off a cliff oh yeah it was fun yeah it was beautiful it was friendship
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Yeah, her husband's beating her. Yeah. And they're just like, fuck it, and they're on the run. It's pretty damn good. And he's in Ridley Scott, too. Yeah, Ridley Scott. Young Brad Pitt. Yeah, that was his first thing, right?
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
uh lenny kravitz and she's just the alien love child beautiful people and you're just like what she's like an alien man lenny kravitz is like 60 something with abs so hot yeah i think i said ass he's got an ass too but he but he uh he said some quote recently that he's been abstinent for 12 no really good that's why that's why he i know Really? I don't think we're competing for the same ass.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
That's like when you're young, at least I was, I drank so much soda when I was young that I'm like, I don't like soda anymore. That's probably how he was with pussy. Probably. He was like, I had enough Dr. Pepper for a lifetime.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
One awesome way to get rid of a bad habit is to distract yourself with a habit that's similar but good. Fume has you covered with their award-winning flavor air device. Oh, that's nice. That's good stuff. It isn't a vape, and there's no nicotine, so you can use it anywhere, and it doesn't become an addiction.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
It's a way to get out that anxious energy without hurting your body with flavors like crisp mint, orange vanilla, maple, pepper, and peach blush. You won't feel like you're missing out on anything. Yeah, I mean, this is awesome. I like having stuff just, you know, here and there.
We Might Be Drunk
Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
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I was like, sex was hard. It meant something to them. Women back then, they were like, yeah, I'll blow you. I don't give a shit. But the sex, they're like, nah, I'm not losing it to you. Sex is natural.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Yeah. I mentioned you last night. Yeah, George Michael. I mentioned you last night to my friend, and I was like, oh, he's a really good actor. I was mentioning a couple movies here, and he's like, I don't know those. I don't know movies. And I was like, he did the song My Dick. Oh, shit. I love that song. Yeah, man.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
I had a Ted Bundy one, I think, about how in the doc, the cop came on. He was like, that guy's problem, he was a narcissist. I was like, that was his only problem? You know what Bin Laden's problem? Never punctual. Always late.
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I don't know, man. I don't know about that. You got Brando in the first one, though. The first one's fucking good. Fuck. The second one is incredible, too. It's more action-packed, the second one. He's in Little Italy. Yeah, honestly, the way he fucking knifes that motherfucker.
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Captain America is pretty good. I've never seen it. I'm not a huge Marvel guy, but that's a pretty good one. People are saying the new Wick is pretty great. I caught the second half on TV the other night, and I couldn't turn it off.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
It's so hard. It's so hard to just sit there. Especially on the road when you're not home. Oh my God. Home is easier. At least you're home, but on the road. On the road in some weird hotel room. Soprano is like white noise.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
no but it's it's uh those serial killer docs man they're did you watch the pete rose one yet no tonight i'm watching it why what's uh it's all about the gambling how he fixed everything and just he's a fucking lunatic but he's so for kind of a neanderthal meathead just unbelievable hitter he's he's it's a fascinating story charming
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Halloween was a classic. Oh, we got the picture of it right there. We got Simon in the- Oh, yeah.
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it was disturbing and i'm like oh this is just every kid now wow has access to that i'm sure our parents look at us like that too but we just had i remember my stepdad had like a playboy under the cushion and it would just be a still photo of some boobs and you're like whoa but yeah this is a i remember at summer camp like jerking off in the fucking bathroom stall to like a club magazine oh yeah that's hot yeah club was hot club was cool that was but that was hardcore that was hard penetration
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Yeah. Yeah. But you're just like, fuck. You pass it around. You're like, this is page 67. It's pretty good. Yeah, yeah. Check it out. Buried out in the woods. Yeah. No, you're right. It's over. There was a picture from 2000, and it was in New York. I saw it on Twitter somewhere, and it just said, look, no one's on their phones.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
I think you were more alert with your neighbor, but also sometimes – It is good to zone out. It's tough. It's a tough line to walk.
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It's like watching a foreign film. Just give it like five minutes and you're in. Same with reading. You just have to just commit to the...
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Don't you kind of weirdly judge those people a little bit?
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Because when I just go back to a retreat, I'm like, you're fucking weird. Yeah, yeah. Like, I admire you, but it's weird. Yeah. And they always tell a story. They're like, yeah, the first day I was crying my eyes out. Yes, yes. I'm like, yeah, I don't want to do that.
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It's not going to be corny. It's just going to be different types of rap. Like, if you listen to rap now, it's so different than the rap we grew up with. That's true. Like, it's so funny. I'll hear this shit. By the way, can I give you a peeve based off of that? My peeve is when the gym plays music that's shitty.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
No. It is funny that they're like, he's not in for gambling. They're like, well, he did fuck a minor, too. Like, just use the minor and you don't sound as bad. Minorly. Yeah. Because Ty Cobb, I think, pushed his wife down a flight of stairs. Yeah. And they're like, you know, he's in. At a certain point, you know.
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Yes, yes. I'll do that when I read drunk. Sometimes I'll come home drunk. You can read drunk? Clearly not. Oh. I'll come home and I'll try, and then I'll just be like, I'll be like 40 pages in, and the next day I'm like, fuck, I gotta reread all these pages. I was blackout drunk. Any book recs? You know what I loved? Shout out Matt Ruby.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
I said this on Rogan recently, but Matt Ruby told me to read the Agassi book called Open. Oh, yeah. He was on meth?
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It's incredible. I loved it so much. I heard it's great. I never read it. Even if you don't like sports, you'll love it. It's moving. It's hilarious. It's fascinating. It's a guy who's so hard on himself and obsessed and such a rebel. He called his dad the dragon. He hated his dad. They basically sent him away. He referred to these tennis camps as prison.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Because they knew they had a prodigy on their hands. So once they saw him, they didn't want to get rid of him. And he knew that. And he was like, fuck you. I hate it here.
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They were just, the dad would call and say like, no, no, no, money's not a problem. We want him here.
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And he just heard like, oh, they just added time onto my prison sentence like that. I had to stay there. But he realized he was miserable there. So he was like, I'm going to act out. So he was like, you know, he'd go get like a pink mohawk and earring. You know, he started dressing in like jean shorts. He started dressing like a girl and be like, fuck you.
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And he'd win these tournaments dressed like that as like a rebel. It's hilarious. I mean, he's, he's an awesome dude. I just, I have so much respect for him.
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It's a ghost written by the guy who did the tender bar, which is, it was a popular one, but he, uh, Good rec. Dude, he's... J.R. Moringer. Yeah, he is just so hard on himself the way we are. He's like, oh, I couldn't get over the hump with Sampras. Dude, he had this insane career. He's like top 10 ever.
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That's how he opens. He goes, I fucking hate tennis. Wow. And he married Steffi Graf, who was one of the best female players of all time. Oh, that's right. That's got to be awkward. And he was in love with her for years.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Yeah, but no, it's so good. The book is... I couldn't put it down, man.
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You've got to find this comic because he did a great bit on it. I forgot his name. Oh! He had the bit about how they use the three names. He goes, and I think it's because they're in a lot of trouble.
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Dude, Vincent Price, I just watched a movie he's in. Great actor from the 40s, you know. He was the guy in the Michael Jackson video, too.
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Bless you. That was adorable. That was like the cutest sneeze I've ever seen.
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That was it. There he is. Yeah, yeah, dude, I watched this movie called Fuck, Save Her From Heaven. It's with Gene Tierney. Ah!
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That was crazy. Strangle a fucking bird? Savor from Heaven. Yeah, Gene Tierney was like the hottest chick. Oh, really?
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She's in a movie called Laura. It's like one of the best noirs of all time. But Vincent Price is a gnat with her, too. But he's in this one called Save Her From Heaven, and it's basically Fatal Attraction before Fatal Attraction, where he meets this gorgeous woman on a... I mean, Leah, pull a picture of her. He met her on Tinder? He meets her on a train, and he's like, she's so hot.
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Ends up marrying her. She's furious anytime there's anyone else in the picture. Crazy jealous. He's got a brother who's disabled, and she hates the brother for just being there. Wow. So I don't want to give too much away, but it's fucking hilarious. It's...
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Once you live longer, I think you just kind of like, you just kind of like, well, I got to stay. Once the life expectancy moves further up, you're kind of like, I got to get this shit tight. I got to stay together. But yeah.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Look at Wilford Brimley. Pull up a picture of Wilford Brimley. That guy was in his 40s and he looked like he was 87.
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I want to credit him, too. You can find that. That was scary. That's such a good angle.
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But when he's like young, yeah, pull up young Wilford Brimley. He's still fucking young. He was never young.
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Was he in Cocoon? Tim Walls and fucking Brad Pitt. I'm like, put anyone next to Brad Pitt. That's true.
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The Cernan brothers wrote a new movie on Netflix called Incoming. It's like super bad level funny. Really? Wow. It's just an airtight... Have you not watched it yet? I haven't seen it yet. I haven't even heard of it. Dude, it's so funny. Really? I feel weird watching kids. It's fucking... You'll get over it in a sec. Really? Because it's written by adults. That's true. And it's...
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Just a bunch of freshmen who were terrified of being freshmen in high school. That it was the most awkward time. It's just fucking killer. All right. It's hilarious, and it's got heart. It's great. All right. I'm going to watch it. Watch it, dude. Okay.
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We had the Churning Brothers on the pod who wrote it, and I feel bad I didn't watch it before it came out, but I don't feel as bad that Mark hasn't even seen it yet. You should watch it. It's really great.
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Joe List used to say that doing the road with me was like Midnight Runs. We would just fucking beat each other's throats. Yeah. Great movie.
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Isn't that crazy? They listen to our podcast, they pause, they strangle a hooker, they get back in the car. I know. They need pods for the long drive. That's true. They pop on us, a little Rogan, kill Tony. Hey, Theo Vaughn's got Trump.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
It's pretty fantastic. It's like a perfect movie. And all the cameos. Every character actor is in it. Fucking Dennis Farina in National. Oh, wow. What's his name from The Sopranos? Joe Pantoliano? He plays such a good scumbag. Joey Pants.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Which I think put us on Robert Smigel's radar- That's right. You got to get him back on with the insult dog versus Winnie. Oh, Triumph versus Winnie.
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That's perfect. Perfect. Where do you stay when you're there?
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You know what I love to do when you're debating what to order with the lady? I was like, give me three types of foods. There's four different types of foods.
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So easy. Give me three. And she can now, I'm like, all right, I'll give you three.
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And I'll, and I'm, I'm good with it, but you got to give me three. Yeah. Give you three. Sometimes. That's crazy. Usually I have to give the three and then she's like that one. I'm like, all right.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Yeah. That's how I started. Yep. I'd say Cheesecake Factory. It's too many options. What are we doing? You're like, how does an omelet have 3,600 calories?
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I got to show you something else. I'll send it to you if you could throw it on if you want. Fuck.
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Oh, yeah, let's do it. I already gave like four wrecks today. You guys do the wrecks.
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The taxi... I'm loyal to the taxis here, but there are so many problems. In a world with no ratings, it's madness. It's madness. They've not been called... It's literally like... They're like single people. They haven't been called on their shit. Yes. So they're just like...
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
going to behave horribly yeah meanwhile the uber they've been raided but i i'm still lord of the cabs yeah you love the cabs you're new york i'm a new york guy they got done dirty it's fucked up but you go in there and it smells like shit half the time and then i i didn't ride back from jfk and you're like oh fuck it's like 90 minutes and he's just on the phone like like i just like yelling i'm like you don't have to yell it yeah who's on the other end just some guy like
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Yeah, that's true. They're just screaming back and forth. They're never like, yeah, yeah, I did this. That's true. It's never once. Never that.
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You did it. Get a life. You're one of the few that come prepped. We don't have to even prompt. Yeah.
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Hey, Mark, you're staying right here. Watch me do Cosby, motherfucker.
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He's so fucking fun. He is fun. Do people still go live on Instagram? Oh, yeah, all the time. I do it like once a year. If I have a special come out, I'm like, hey, guys, watch my special. That's how I am.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Prime Video, same girl you've changed. Wasn't trying to do that.
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Tan France, thank you, buddy. That suit was his idea. Oh, really? Was that your boy that directed it? No, that's my friend James Webb. No, Tan France is from Queer Eye. I was like, what suit do I wear? Oh, nice.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
I feel more like there's like a swagger and a confidence. You what? I did a gig in Vegas like a few weeks before and I was like, let me throw a suit on so it doesn't feel weird because it's, you know. I can't keep telling. Yeah.
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He doesn't laugh. You've got to pull up the clip of Artie Lang and Howard Stern. I think he's on Seth Meyers telling the story already, but it's like... It's the story of roasting Trump and how he kind of couldn't take it. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's really.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
it's not just about to be home i was on a zoom podcast the other day i'm doing my friend's zoom pod and i felt the shit coming on oh shit just please wrap it up it's been over an hour he's gonna wrap it up and uh just as we're about to wrap up he's like well if you want to plug anything i'm like oh great this shit's about to plug my ass but then it just turns into another five minutes another five minutes and my body's like dude it's like your body's like dude come on yeah
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Full fire hose. That's one of the best feelings, and one of the best feelings is when you first get in a hotel room, whip off those pants.
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There it is. Damn, that was like, I think I'm going to nail that. Yeah. Yeah.
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This beer's pretty good. I haven't had a beer in a while.
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No, no. I got to do two shows tonight in Jersey. Oh, where in Jersey? Stress Factory. Stretch Factory? Stress. Oh. I am working out. I'm trying to get my... Wait.
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I was like a 13-year-old kid in the movie theater, like, a woman's finger has to go up your ass? I know, and I was like, oh, good to know. I'll try this tonight.
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Anything else in the works? Any movies that you're coming up that you're pumped about?
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No. I mean, Pryor did a lot of act-outs. Yeah. I think if the joke calls for it. Yeah. I guess it depends on the comic. Yeah. I think, like, comics, we're snobs. We want a good joke. Like, Stephen Wright ain't doing an act-out. No.
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Right. But it's another gear, man. Burr will do act outs. That helicopter story. Yeah, I mean, and we do it sometimes.
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I've got some longer stories in my last couple hours, so it's like I'll do – I'm not, like, physical, but I'll do, like, a little act out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man.
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Well, it's like, you know, when the crowd's small, it's like you kind of play to that small energy. Yeah. So it's like if it's like 80 people, I kind of play. But if I'm in a bigger venue, I'll kind of up it a little bit. I kind of try to match their energy. But, yeah, they were – look, I was doing new shit. A lot of it was nothing.
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But as long as you leave with a few, you're like, all right, I'm fucking –
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
That's true. Yeah, if there's like six people there, you probably have to be like, are you good? And I'll jerk you off for a second. I'll fucking work the room a little and act out.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Yeah, that's not natural to who we are at this point. Like, you know, if I were doing that, it would be not me. It would be me putting it on. Right. Like, if I'm me, that's the energy. That's right. And it just feels more honest to them, I think. And they probably feel more comfortable. They're like, oh, he's not, like, putting something on. Right. Yeah. You're always putting something on, but...
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
You do everything. You guys both did the garden? No, I've never done MSG.
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You know, we both did a bunch of arenas with Amy back in the day. I did a bunch of Sandler's arena shows. Burt, we did the Burt. Yeah, we've done a lot of big arena shows, but the biggest one on our own, I think probably somewhat similar.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Like MSG Theater was probably the biggest I've done on my own.
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And also your style becomes more of that, I think, the more you do it. So I think my broadest hour is my first hour, honestly.
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If you're bombing a corporate, don't you find yourself going back to like that?
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It's the old shit. You're kind of just trying to tread water and you're like, this shit killed in America has got talent.
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Yeah, but Billy Joel gets so much love for putting out like one new song in 30 years.
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And I liked the song. I thought it was good. But it's also like, man, he's also got such a crazy catalog that like, of course you just want to hear that stuff live. You're like, I want my, that's a pricey ticket.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
He went to singing lessons. Can a singing teacher, can they take you from like,
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My point is, do you think a singing coach could make it so Mark and I have a decent singing voice?
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It's like a rhythm. It is music. But Shatner doesn't have a great voice. He just is like, that's me.
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I've told this story before, but I remember the night she died, I was playing this club in Knoxville, opening for a guy. Side splitters? Yeah, back in the day. And it was the same night Jeremy Lin went for 38 against the Lakers. And every tweet was just, Lin-sanity, Lin-sanity. And someone tweeted, Whitney Houston died. That's Lin-sane.
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Well, he, I mean, he, I think, you know, against Jokic was Serbia, right? Was that the last?
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Second to last. Second to last. The free throw line talking a lot of shit, and I'm like.
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you never see Steph but he is so competitive but he's got that baby face you don't like that the baby face assassin but that's right talking all this shit at the free throw line hit both of them ice the game yeah then that last game he just four in a row they were all insane all contested shots unbelievable and it's that crazy shot of LeBron and Durant just open and he's just like fuck it drains it like wow yeah I watched a montage and it was it put like classic music behind it and they made it in slow motion it was it was beautiful he's phenomenal
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
That one wasn't our fault. I mean, the T-Wolves drafted two point guards before him. He went like seventh. Yep. And the Timberwolves took two point guards ahead of him.
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Wow. I don't think anybody knew he'd be that, I mean. Yeah. But he was fucking awesome in college. He was just at a tiny, he was a Davidson. Like, you don't know. Like a division three. Joe Zimmerman knew him in college. Really? Yeah, Joe played golf in college.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Yeah, he's just a freak athlete. He's a freak. He could probably retire basketball and be a pro golfer if he wanted. Really? Probably. He's that good at sports. I mean, he's...
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
There you go. There you go. That's a great fucking clip, though, isn't it? I think of that every time.
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I think that's the formula. There's that famous quote, I think it's Gustave Flaubert said, be violent in your work and ordinary in your life. Yeah. That's a good one.
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chris brown was the opposite damn i like that a lot yeah that's good be violent in your work i just re-watched magnolia fuck it's good yeah it's good oh so good he doesn't miss me but that whole character that whole character thing of uh philip baker hall is like did you fuck our daughter and he's like i don't remember what is this a tim robinson sketch i don't know i don't know if i
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
I don't love what they did with the ending, but the movie's incredible. It's beautiful.
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And the energy of the movie is, like, insane. Yeah. Yes. The zooms and the... The music and, like, the cutting, all these... It's, like, clearly influenced by, like, Robert Altman. Yeah. And, like, bam, bam, bam, all these things happening at once.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
I don't think you can top that. Yeah, I don't think so either. But he's made some other great shit, too. Oh, yeah, Punch Drunk. That was good. Punch Drunk was really good. The Whoopi Blood was good.
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Oh. Yeah. But to laugh, you really have to know what's going on. That's true. Yeah, that's true. He's just not right, right, right, right, right, right, right.
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The Whoopi Blood was really good. Over the Boogie Nights.
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You're not re-watching There Will Be Blood like you're re-watching. Yeah, exactly.
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It's brutal, but it's still kind of fun. Yeah. I mean, Boogie Nights, not There Will Be Blood.
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by the way you know it's one of those things where like you could just do you know the technology they have in films you can just shoot this and no one you could just say you went to outer space and didn't go right i know i fucking know yeah yeah gravity looked great it's great and won oscars it's almost it's almost fucked up you're like costing some people work yeah oh yeah he's just going to space there's no crew out there and there's no location scouting either just in space you don't have to pay for the uh the building
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Hope so. That would sound great. Dude, I was on the phone with Delta yesterday just complaining about a flight. Yeah. And Anthony just sees me on the street because he was picking me up for a road gig. He was sitting on the street going, well, you better fucking figure it out. And I'm just holding Winnie.
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Bodega Cat, baby. Oh, dude, the new bottle's coming soon. I mean, we have it already, I think, but we had a shipping issue today. But Bodega Cat, we're doing it, man.
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You have to do the complaints. It's a whole thing. Yeah. I used to have a joke about this in an old special. We don't do complaints. It's a real thing. They don't. They have a complaint division that you can't call. So they can email and they just count on you tiring.
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I thought you were going to say there's people getting raped in Delta flights. No, just on the fucking money. Yeah. The mileage. Comfort rape.
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Some dyslexic person. It's like brain droppings type stuff.
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I still remember Hannibal Buress had that bit about how he didn't know what Orthodox Jewish people were. So he's like, why don't these Amish guys have blackberries?
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Or is it like, you know, Jews on Saturday, you have to have someone come over?
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That's a great movie. Old school. No, I read about that one. I heard it's good.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Well, Norman turned me on to that guy, Cody Tucker. Cody Tucker.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
I got an adapter for my tub at home. So it's like, it's not expensive. It makes it an ice bath? Yeah, it freezes the water. Wow. That's a wreck. And it's clunky as fuck. Oh, wow. I'll tell you it's a wreck. I had to use it a couple of times. Oh, you haven't used it yet? No, I used it twice. And look, it woke me the hell up. Oh, yeah.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Oh, he played him before. He just is like, he'll tell you the origin of words like that.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
First thing in the morning, you got to set it up the night before. You just hop in there. You're like, all right, this sucks, but it's also awesome.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
We got Bodega Cat whiskey. It's all over New York right now. Strip House is going to carry it. Woo! We've got a new bottle will debut very soon.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
The new one's sexy. It looks cool. Do we have a picture? Thick with two Cs. Yeah, I will be in London September 18th. Whoa. Belfast September 22nd, the 24th in Dublin, the 25th in Paris. Then I will be in Amsterdam. We had a show in Amsterdam and Paris, so please fill those up. Copenhagen. Oslo, Stockholm, and then, yeah, Cleveland is the next spot. Not until November.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
So I'm going to add something in October, but then big tour in January. So keep your eyes open, samorell.com, or just go to punchup.live slash samorell, punchup.live slash Mark Norman, and you can see all our stuff there. Mark, where are you going to be, man?
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Yeah, thanks, boys. Punch-Up follows both on punchup.live slash Mark Norman, punchup.live slash Samuel. Go see Simon's, all his movies, Blink Twice. Thanks, guys. The new one's coming out. It's awesome, crushing. It's such a good guest on the podcast.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Love Bad Monkey, dude. It's been great so far. And get some Bodega Cat Whiskey at bodegacatwhiskey.com. We got a new fucking batch. We're making moves with this. If you want a piece of this shit, DM Bodega Kid on IG. I don't know what to do.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Slow it down. They got the right idea, though. We're going to do it. I just smell your fart now.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Sorry. And on that note, it's been a great episode. We love you guys.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
This is like a version of the All Dress. Because I said I like All Dress. Is that why you did it? You fucking. What a thoughtful man. You considerate motherfucker, Matt. All Dress is my favorite potato chip. Winnie, you can't have any.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
I'm going in three days. Where are you going? London. That's Europe. Where else am I going? Belfast, Dublin, Paris, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Oslo, and Stockholm. That's Europe. Chosen all of them, baby. That's amazing, dude. That's great. I can't wait. And Frank House. That was a hot ticket. That was tough. You got one? I literally couldn't get tickets. It's sold out. I'm like, sold out six weeks.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
What is this, fucking Taylor Swift? It's insane that I'm having to call in favors to get into the Anne Frank house. So I put in Instagram stories. I'm like, didn't know it was such a hot ticket. Any help would be appreciated. The Jewish mafia starts hitting me up. Jessica Seinfeld's like, let me know what I can do to help. Schumer DMs me. All these Jews are like, I got you.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
And someone said, wait till Tuesday. They put up new tickets, and I waited, and I got them.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
good point but uh yo europe man van gogh museum too i got tickets so i'm gonna try to do a bang bang out one day in amsterdam it's so annoying i got a few and others yeah there's not enough time and you're not a stoner so you're not gonna go do all that don't do all that because i i try i'm not a stoner either and i was like let me get weed it's amsterdam and i ruined my whole trip yeah why are we not stoners
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
I think it heightens the doubts. Yeah, that's exactly right. That's why I like drinking it. Fucking shuts up those boys.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
It sounds like you're just high. That's a high. Maybe. I don't think. Because normally you just look at a person, right? I feel like it's the weed.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
My friend and I were so high once at home, and my dad knew, and he came in, and he just handed a pamphlet on cigarette smoking. It was the most passive-aggressive way to be like, he didn't know it was weed. What is this?
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Dude, we- Reuse it. I had her on the morning show segment in Baltimore, and then I'm walking into the comedy club there, and there's a line for people to get in outside, and as I'm walking around, everyone goes, Winnie!
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Winnie! That's awesome. I got to get her like a little scarf and sunglasses. Yeah.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Dude, we haven't even mentioned this, but you're in so many new movies, but you're just in a new one with... Pacino? Oh, yeah. Vince Vaughn.
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Ep 197: Simon Recs (Rex)
Really good, dude. What's the new show? Bad Monkey. Oh, is it good? Have you seen it? I'm two in. Oh, really? And I'm loving it. With Vince Vaughn? Yeah. It's like Carl Hyasin books, so it's like Florida Noir. Is that Japanese? No, he's like a Florida Noir type. Oh, wow. Floir. But he's like Vince Vaughn being like a really funny guy.
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Ep 221: Are You Garbage - H.Foley & Kevin Ryan with Mark Normand and Sam Morril
What do you want me to fucking say? What do you want me to say? They know who they fucking are. We chose as a group and they stood out and they said they belong there.
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Ep 221: Are You Garbage - H.Foley & Kevin Ryan with Mark Normand and Sam Morril
Okay, answer the fucking question. We keep talking like this out in the fucking parking lot. Out in the parking lot, kid. You give the fucking answers. Fuck that shit, dog. Want a fucking jacket? Want to talk some shit? Let's go step outside, motherfucker. I ain't here for that, dog. Want to talk about fucking fighting? Oh, wow. Want to get fucking rough? Do you think I'm scared?
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Ep 221: Are You Garbage - H.Foley & Kevin Ryan with Mark Normand and Sam Morril
No, you got two big security guards.
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Ep 221: Are You Garbage - H.Foley & Kevin Ryan with Mark Normand and Sam Morril
You were a second ago. Yeah.