Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Turn Your Followers Into Superfans With Trust and Authenticity | Presented by OpusClip | YAPCreator
Wed, 11 Dec 2024
Are you struggling to stand out in a crowded digital world? Trust is the foundation of any strong brand, and authenticity is the glue that holds it all together. While Kat Norton blended dancing with Excel tutorials to create the viral brand Miss Excel, Rudy Mawer made red his signature, turning it into a bold and unforgettable identity. When you show up authentically, you can create a powerful bond with your audience. In episode two of the YAPCreator Series brought to you by OpusClip, Hala dives deep into why trust is essential to building a loyal community. She also shares actionable advice on how to nurture authenticity and trust as well as tips from previous YAP guests to help you turn your followers into fans. In this episode, Hala will discuss: (00:00) Introduction (05:16) The Three E’s of Building Real Relationships Online (06:42) Sean Cannell on Video as a Trust Accelerator (11:11) Authentic Engagement with Miss Excel (12:37) Embracing Imperfections for Deeper Connections (15:54) Polarity and Creating Viral Content (16:53) Rudy Mawer’s Bold Branding Strategy (21:14) GaryVee’s Guide to Niche Targeting (25:21) Jasmine Star on Growing a Loyal Community (28:39) Selling with Authenticity (32:26) Enhancing Authentic Content with OpusClip Try OpusClip for FREE: Visit https://www.opus.pro/clipanything Resources Mentioned: YAP E274 with Rory Vaden: https://youngandprofiting.com/rory-vaden-how-ive-helped-top-business-influencers-build-their-personal-brands-e274/ YAP E278 with Sean Cannell: https://www.youngandprofiting.com/sean-cannell-start-a-profitable-youtube-channel-in-2024-part-1-e278/ YAP E279 with Sean Cannell: https://www.youngandprofiting.com/sean-cannell-start-a-profitable-youtube-channel-in-2024-part-2-e279/ YAP E316 with Kat Norton: https://youngandprofiting.com/kat-norton-niche-to-riches-how-i-made-millions-teaching-excel-on-tiktok-e316/ YAP E318 with Rudy Mawer: https://www.youngandprofiting.com/rudy-mawer-the-ultimate-direct-response-playbook-for-scaling-multi-million-dollar-brands-e318/ YAP E291 with GaryVee: https://youngandprofiting.com/gary-vee-my-2024-blueprint-for-building-brand-and-sales-on-social-media-e291/ YAP E130 with Jasmine Star: https://www.youngandprofiting.com/130-stand-out-on-social-with-jasmine-star/ YAP E252 with Harley Finkelstein: https://www.youngandprofiting.com/harley-finkelstein-we-are-living-in-the-next-renaissance-how-the-next-wave-of-entrepreneurs-will-change-the-world-as-we-know-it-e252/ Top Tools and Products of the Month: https://youngandprofiting.com/deals/ More About Young and Profiting Download Transcripts - youngandprofiting.com Get Sponsorship Deals - youngandprofiting.com/sponsorships Leave a Review - ratethispodcast.com/yapYAP | Young and Profiting Watch Videos - youtube.com/c/YoungandProfiting Follow Hala Taha LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/htaha/ Instagram - instagram.com/yapwithhala/ TikTok - tiktok.com/@yapwithhala Twitter - twitter.com/yapwithhala Learn more about YAP Media's Services - yapmedia.io/
Chapter 1: What are the foundational pillars of content creation?
Hey, young and profiters, you're listening to episode two of the Yap Creator series presented by Opus Clip. In this series, we'll dive deep into the art and science of content creation. We'll unpack the secrets of capturing attention and the psychology that fuels audience connection. Today, we're going to talk about two foundational pillars for success in content creation, trust and authenticity.
Chapter 2: Why is trust essential for building a loyal community?
Let me tell you, these two elements can make or break your connection with your audience. Trust is the foundation of any strong brand, and authenticity is the glue that holds it all together, the force that keeps people coming back for more. In today's episode, we're diving deep into why trust is essential to building a loyal community.
I'll also share insights on how to maintain authenticity in everything you create, as well as some practical ways that you can nurture both trust and authenticity over time. You'll get a ton of actionable advice, and I'll even sprinkle in some great tips from previous YAP guests to bring these concepts to life.
Building trust online is crucial, especially when you don't interact with your audience face-to-face. In a digital world, trust transforms casual followers into loyal supporters and eventually customers. But how do you establish that trust from behind a screen? The first step is to get personal. That means being open about meaningful details from your life.
Chapter 3: How can personal storytelling build trust online?
Sharing who you are behind the polished brand makes you relatable, approachable, and real. Rory Vaden, a brand building expert, explained to me why this personal connection is so essential for building trust and why it even made him change his mind about the people on social media who like to post about their every meal.
How do you best build trust online? We would say, how do you best build trust offline? Well, if you made a list, okay, so let's first start with the people. If you made a list of the top 10 people you trust in your life, like would trust with your life or with your kids, right? Like I've got two toddlers. So like if you go, who would you trust?
There's a good chance that the people on that list, like you would trust with your banking information or your, you know, like that kind of stuff. There's a good chance you know those people intimately. You know...
where they eat, you know, where they live, you know, about their families, you know, where they went to college, you know, where they grew up, you know, about their siblings, you know, like, you know, maybe some of their fears, you know, some of their mistakes, like some of where they're, you know, those people intimately.
And when I first got on social media, I was like, oh my gosh, this is so stupid. Why is everyone posting pictures of what they ate? And then I realized, oh, because we trust people that we know intimate details about their life. Now, that doesn't mean you have to post pictures of your kids, right? There's a lot of reasons why not to and a lot of fears why not to.
Um, I, AJ and I happened to do it a lot. Um, AJ is my wife and she's also my co-founder, um, and the CEO of Brand Builders Group, by the way. So she was, uh, we were business partners in our former company that we sold. And then we started Brand Builders Group, just the two of us, and she's the CEO and I'm the CMO. So, and we're married, right? So we got two kids.
So we post, we happen to share those things, um, occasionally. So, um, We trust people that we know details about their life, right? If I see someone walking down the alley, I've never seen them before. I don't know anything about the person. I don't care what the color of their skin is.
If it's dark and it's an alley and I've never seen the person before, I don't care if it's a man, a woman, or their age. My spidey senses go up. I'm in an alley with a stranger. And that's how it is, right? Who's going to buy from a stranger? Nobody. So they got to know something about you. Who else do we trust in real life? Well, we tend to trust people who we learn from. We trust pastors.
We trust lawyers. We trust accountants. We trust doctors. We trust experts. We trust people. We trust teachers. We trust mentors. We trust counselors. We trust people who teach us things. Who else do we trust in real life? We tend to trust people who entertain us, right? They make us laugh. They make us inspired. They're musical, right? Or they're entertaining, like we see them on movies.
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Chapter 4: What are the three E’s for content marketing?
The only people who care about your cat typically are gonna be once they're intrigued by you and they want to kind of really vet you out, that's where they go, who are you really, right?
Rory talks about how trust comes from familiarity. People trust those that they feel that they know, whether that's through personal stories, inspiration, or education. His three E's framework, educate, encourage, and entertain, is a simple yet powerful way to build genuine relationships online. But how can we take this trust building to the next level?
Well, some of you are looking at it right now, and that's video. I learned about the trust-building power of video from Sean Cannell, an expert on video marketing and the founder of Think Media, which has over 3 million YouTube subscribers. Sean explained why video gives your audience an instant sense of connection and trust, something that other content types struggle to match.
We do business with people we know, like, and trust, and video is the best trust accelerator. If people read something you've written, they can get to know you a little bit. If they hear your voice on audio, that's great. They can get to know you better, but if they see you, they can get to know you best. And so it's kind of like. Old school, small town rules.
Chapter 5: How does video serve as a trust accelerator?
You know, we, we meet someone face to face for coffee. You want to connect with your real estate agent in person, look them in the eye, firm handshake. Uh, what are you wearing? You know, every, all those details speak something about you while in video, we are able to now communicate those details.
And, you know, Google released a report years ago called, I believe the three 11, four rule, which was, or the seven 11, four rule, which was people need to consume seven hours of your content over 11 different touch points on four different platforms. Um, and depending on your ticket price of your offer. for there to be trust for them to become a lead or even more so a customer.
And so the power of video is you're giving people a chance to get to know you pre-sale, pre-sales conversation and get to know your expertise, get to know some of your values and your principles. In fact, this would kind of be like a checklist of the types of buckets of content that you'd wanna have. It's why that, yes, you wanna establish your authority.
So you have videos that, oh, this person knows what they're talking about. You establish something that'll help them. Wow, this person got me results in advance. So their content helped me solve a micro problem compared to the big problem they solve. Dang, I can see they're good for it. They know what they're talking about and they've already helped me for free.
But one of the missing pieces is they also maybe hear bits and pieces of your story. this whole idea of we do business with people with shared beliefs, and we do business with people with similar values. And sometimes we just go so logical and so practical, like, okay, cool, this person can help me with Facebook ads, this person can help me with my taxes. But when you start weaving in
bits and pieces of your story, they start saying, oh, wow, this person has family values. Oh, wow, this person is of a particular faith. Wow, this person is even maybe kind of leans this way or that way in their ideology. These things, you don't have to put like politics and religion in your content necessarily. However, a lot of times those are polarized people
to you as well as away from you, but the people polarized to you will be even better customers and will resonate with you even deeper. So over seven hours of content consumed, 11 different touch points could include a YouTube video, seeing you on Instagram, connecting you within the DMs, landing on your website and watching the explainer video.
And four platforms also speaks to the power of being on LinkedIn, seeing a deeper dive training, listening to you on an audio podcast. When you start, this is the whole vision of content marketing is then all of this trust has been built and this familiarity has been built. And so for a lot of listeners, they might have a sales team or somebody eventually jumps on a sales call
You're not dealing with, if you will, cold traffic or even just slightly warm traffic at that point. You're actually maybe dealing with somebody who's like, listen, I already like really know, like, and trust you. I've seen this content. I'm just curious the details of your offer.
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Chapter 6: What is the importance of authenticity in content?
With over 1.1 million followers on Instagram and 2.3 million followers on TikTok, Kat has mastered the art of capturing attention. She told me how combining her distinctive passions for dancing and Microsoft Excel created an unexpected level of engagement from her audience.
So I was really just learning by the seat of my pants. Like I would read the comments people had and I'm like, okay, what do they like? What do they not like? But also for me, it really came down to authenticity. So I love dancing. I love helping people and I love Excel. So I was like, what would happen if I put all of that inside of one video, right?
And so for me, it was just an authentic expression. It was cool. It was something I had never seen anybody do before in terms of the Excel space, especially, but also in a lot of learning spaces, integrating dance, which is more native to the TikTok app, but then layering in the educational piece. And that polarity is what really helped the videos take off.
Because if I just posted Excel tip videos, people would have been like, cool, like I don't use Excel and moved on. But so many people were commenting because they were like, what the heck is this girl? doing? She is dancing. She's doing the Tuesday slot, left or right function. What is going on here?
And that's really what helped it go through the algorithm. And I want to laser in on something you said, and we'll go deeper on it later. But you talked about polarity. So the fact that you combined two things that are really uncommon together, dance and Excel. It gets people talking. It gets people like complaining. Why are you dancing talking about Excel? Or some people will love it.
And it gets people talking, which really drives everything up in the algorithm. Do you have anything else to say about polarity and how important it is for social media?
I think it's a combination of polarity because obviously you want like a healthy polarity, right? You don't just want to like say things to create polarity. It needs to be something that's actually authentic to you. So I think that's like the nuance when it comes to polarity because a lot of people too...
when it comes to polarity, it's important to make sure that your mental health is in a great spot to be able to receive what comes with polarity, right? Because a lot of times when a video goes viral, negative comments are the majority of the ones in there because it's being shown to people, it's being shared, and that's just the nature of the planet, right? We live on a polarity planet.
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Chapter 7: How does combining unique interests enhance engagement?
There's always positive and negative forces. So it comes to making sure that your nervous system is able to hold positive the energy of what is going to come through from creating the polarity in that content. So for me, that was my biggest work. I was constantly working on myself because easily some people get some negative comments and it'll take them out.
They'll be like, I don't wanna post anymore. People think this, or you start having certain limiting beliefs that then are adjusting the actions you'll take. So instead of following your intuition, You're following the actions that'll please the most people or things like that.
So it's really important to keep coming back to yourself, come back to that intuition and know that, you know, the polarity is going to trigger some people and that's okay. That was a big lesson for me as a former people pleaser. You know, I had to, I had to let that go.
As Kat Norton points out here, combining contrasting elements in a genuine way, what she calls polarity, can drive engagement and deepen connections. It's a reminder that showing up authentically may involve quirks or unique passions, even if they seem unconventional. When people see those real, unfiltered sides of you, they're drawn into the person behind the brand, not just the content.
Okay, speaking of drawing audiences, audiences today crave authenticity. They wanna connect with somebody who feels real and relatable, not just some polished, perfect version of you. So don't shy away from sharing the ups and the downs. True engagement comes when you share your failures, your setbacks, your lessons in progress.
These raw, unpolished moments build authenticity and foster deeper connections with your followers, making them feel like they're part of your growth story. At Yap and on my personal profiles, we blend polished visuals with everyday moments. So for example, one day I might put up a photo from a photo shoot that was professionally shot. And the next day might be a selfie that I shot myself.
And tools like Opusclip make it incredibly easy to create these authentic moments on video. So for example, you can set up a tripod in your house to take B-roll of your day-to-day activities. So think cooking, cleaning, taking meetings, working on the computer, whatever it is, you want to take this B-roll footage.
Then you can upload that into Opus Clip and it will pick out the most exciting, actionable parts of the videos and you can ask it to turn it into a day-in-the-life montage video. It can create multiple video clips for you like this, and then you have real behind the scenes glimpses of your life that helps your audience feel like they're truly getting to know you.
So we've talked about sharing personal details, the power of video, and not being afraid to be our unique and authentic selves, even if that means leaning into being imperfect and unpolished. Another aspect of building trust with your audience and establishing authenticity is consistency.
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Chapter 8: Why is consistency key in brand identity?
I went all in with my personal brand and we did $25 million in three years, just selling courses, programs, coaching programs. So we grew it super fast. And I'm saying that because I think half of that is because I went all in on the personal brand and the social and the organic and stages and all of that sort of stuff. So it had a massive impact.
I don't think I would have grown it to that amount so quickly without the brand. But during that time, we were just getting feedback. People were buying courses, programs. I had this like red backdrop, nothing as extreme as I've got now, but it was kind of similar to this if you're watching on video. And people loved it. They were buying 20K masterminds saying, I don't even know who this guy is.
I just see his red ads everywhere and his branding's on point and he clearly knows what he's doing. Luckily, touch wood in this industry, I do feel I know what I'm doing. It's not just a facade like half the industry we live in is.
And then I was going to events when COVID lockdown ended and all the friends that I had known for five years were like, dude, I love your branding now, like how you did this whole red thing. So it just got more and more and more. And I'm a very extreme person, which is sometimes great and sometimes terrible. So I just went all in. All my cars were red. I made all the offices red.
I made all the staff wear red. And I played into it, and now it's very recognizable, and I'm well known for it.
Yeah. I mean, I think the key thing is that you're memorable, right? There's so many other influencers out there and you do have the knowledge to back it up and the credentials to back it up. But the red just makes it memorable and makes you stand out, whereas other people might have to be seen 10 times to be remembered. Maybe just once is all you need to be remembered.
Rudy's story perfectly highlights the power of bold, consistent branding and making a lasting impression. His commitment to a signature red theme ensures his brand is instantly recognizable and memorable, cutting through the noise in a crowded space. In addition to visual identity, a strong brand voice is key for forming meaningful connections with your audience.
Your brand should not only represent who you are, but also reflect and mirror the qualities and interests of your audience. And that's because people connect with those who are similar to them. People like people who are like themselves. A strong brand voice means consistent core messages.
Choose a few messages that you repeat in different forms over and over again so that your audience remembers what you stand for and how you can transform and improve their lives. For example, I have core messages that I repeat over and over again. I remind my audience that you're never too young or too old to learn something new and that if a gatekeeper tells you no, find another path.
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