Kimberly Jackson’s family never wanted to lose track of her great-grandmother Zinnie, but somehow she still disappeared. Now, however, Kimberly thinks she may have the answers that generations of her family wanted. Meanwhile, those in charge of the remains of the asylum’s former patients have a different kind of search ahead. And Larrison learns how this cemetery will finally be woven back into the community.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What is the significance of the old asylum in Jackson's history?
And the patients would come out on the front lawn. But as the city moved that way, they had to borrow the porches because they became a buggy problem. Well, they would get out and show out on the lawn and people would stop riding around.
Oh, buggy. Oh, I thought human insects.
Oh, no.
No, horse and buggy.
Over the course of the old asylum's life, it grew. Jackson grew around it. Its story unspooled, threads joining the tapestry of ever-expanding daily life in central Mississippi. Back at the State Hospital Museum, Donna Brown and Kathy Denton showed us around a room full of photos and memorabilia from the old asylum.
There are a lot of stories, too. If you look closely at the picture, you can see there's a road that turns here and circles up close to the building. Sunday afternoons in Jackson, it was a common, fun thing to do to go picnic on the grounds and watch the, quote, crazy people.
After the old asylum shuttered its doors when its buildings were torn down in the 50s, the stories died down for a bit, too. But with the rediscovery of the Asylum Hills Cemetery, the lore is also coming back to life. Asylum Hills' Lyda Gibson even has her own.
Well, the first time I heard about the old asylum, was from my mother. My mother is still with us. She is 95 years old, but she remembers as a child driving through the gravel driveway in front of the asylum on Sunday afternoons and waving at the patients. We've had lots of people who've come from the community and said, yeah, oh yeah, that was like the place to go.
For the most part, the stories that survive are the ones that lean into the Southern Gothic of it all. Here's Bill Lee, Wayne's cousin.
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Chapter 2: Who is Kimberly Jackson and what is her connection to Zinnie?
Pilgrim Rest was a small community, not too far away. Zennie's whole family was nearby. But then things went south for Zennie. Her mom died. It shook everyone in the family, but no one more than Zennie, a young mother herself.
And as the story goes, when her mother passed away, she became, I guess, so despondent with grief that that she slowly started to, her mental health started to decline. My grandmother always said that she had a nervous breakdown.
Kim's grandmother was Zenny's youngest child, not even 10 years old yet.
One cousin said that she would leave home, she would put my grandma on her hip and take off walking. And, you know, people be like, you know, where is it? You know, looking for her, where is it? And she would hitch a ride going to Pilgrim Rest. She would just take off, hitch a ride, go to Pilgrim Rest, you know, hitch a ride, get on, you know, and come back. They said she'd always come back.
She'd always come back. My great-grandfather was able to get her admitted to Asylum Hill.
But Kim's great-grandfather, Zinni's husband Monroe, remained devoted. His wife was his wife, in sickness or in health.
According to my cousins, my great-grandfather went to visit her at least three times. And that must have been a hard track for that time. Exactly. Now that touched me, because when I think about, now this is Mississippi. In the late teens, you know, him traveling either by wagon or a Model T kind of a car, who knows? You know, to think about him getting back and forth three times.
Oh, he loved her. You can't tell me he didn't love her. If he was determined to visit her three times, yeah, he meant to bring her home. until he, for some reason, thought that he couldn't. He and her family were thinking, of course, that this was going to be a short-term stay, you know. And so her brother said to my great-grandfather, so when are you bringing Zenny home?
And he said, I don't know. Every time I go, she gets further and further away from me. While she was at Asylum Hill, she passed away. So as far as I know, it was through a telegram is how he found out that she passed. As far as I know, he was not able to see her before she was buried. You know, they thinking she's going somewhere for a little while and she never comes back.
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Chapter 3: How did the family of Zinnie cope with her loss?
Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known.
If the cops and everything would have done their job properly, my dad would have been in jail. I would have never existed.
I never expected to find myself in this place. Now, I need to tell you how I got here.
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
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Chapter 4: What role does the Asylum Hills Cemetery play in the community today?
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