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Kimberly Jackson

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So, actually, my family, part of my family got together this past Saturday and One of my cousins said that she was told that my great-grandmother may have suffered from postpartum depression. So each brother seems to have had their own story, you know, so to speak, about what happened. She had four children, three boys and a girl. My grandmother was the girl, was a daughter.

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So she had her, though, she had her, though, kind of, I guess people would say late because there was six years in between her and her youngest brother. So possibly, possibly, she had postpartum. And then by the time my grandmother came along, you know, it just progressively got worse after each pregnancy. Right. That's what my cousin told me.

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And it doesn't sound too far off, honestly, too far fetched either, that that could have possibly happened to her.

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Everybody. As far as my family, except for those two who were really close, because those would have been her, that's her niece and nephew. Well, great niece and nephew, actually. So aside from those two, yeah, all the cousins I've grown up with, yeah, everybody knows.

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So initially, it was like, what? Really? You know, you found her where? You know, because nobody knew where she was. This is the mystery that was Xenia has really opened up. Like, we are ecstatic. We didn't know what happened to her. We didn't. We had no idea where she was. You know, we kind of knew, but we didn't really know. This was at UMMC.

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Do you know how many of us have actually had to go to UMMC for appointments? I've even been there. I was a patient there. I had no idea. So this has been great. I mean, I hate what happened to her, but I'm glad we found her.

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We never forgot her. Of course, Grandma Elvia, which is my grandmother's stepmother, played a huge role in our family. She really stepped in and was a true mother, grandmother to my grandma, her siblings, my mother, her siblings, her cousins. She really was that person. She she did get to meet a few great grands, you know, which was awesome. But she really did.

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But we never my grandmother wouldn't let us forget who Xenia was. Her siblings never let them forget who she was. We all knew who she was and what she meant to them. There was just this huge question mark.

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As of right now, we haven't really talked about what to do with the information. However, I know, just want people to be helped and just want people to know that if something is going on with your loved one, just try to persevere and get them to help the best way that you can. Considering that's what my great-grandfather did in the 1920s, I just don't want anybody to stop.

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And there are a lot of roadblocks in getting your people help. And then sometimes you can get your people help, and then they don't want to stick with the program or with the prescription. It's just a lot. I just don't want people to give up. Just pray and keep going. And reach out if there are resources. Reach out for those resources.

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Ask for help because more than likely somebody is going to help you if they can. But also don't take care of yourself as well because it's a journey. It's important as we are taking care of our loved ones that we also take care of ourselves. That's the main thing. I think about my great-grandfather then had to come home and look after four kids with the help of community.

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Because at first, you know, like I said, he was still married to her. And he did not remarry until my grandmother was 10 or 11, if I'm not mistaken, 11. So, you know, he raised his kids with the help of family and community. That's what I hope, that people have family and community as they are on this journey. If not family by blood, then family by blood, just community.

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I just hope that they have someone to help. I really do.

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You know, families are not necessarily, you know, your blood relatives. It would be awesome, though, I guess, to put it on paper so that it could be widely shared. I don't know how much more could be shared than what is shared now. But, you know, I just don't want it to be lost. And I'm going to her reunion. Actually, her family reunion is going to be this summer in June.

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And maybe I can find anybody else that has some info, especially the brother who told my great grandfather, when are you bringing home? His family is going to be there. So I'm hoping maybe they can give me some info that maybe he shared with them or maybe that was passed down to them. We'll see. But anyway, I'm going. I'm looking forward to it.

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I'm wanting to go and share whatever I can with them about what happened with Zinnia, just so that they'll know. And she'll just be a part of, you know, family lore, so to speak. She may already be, and I just don't know it. But I just want to share that, that, hey, she has been found. What we're going to do next, I don't know. But hopefully it'll help somebody.

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If it has assisted anyone, encouraged anyone to, hey, try to find what happened to your lost loved ones, relatives. Because, you know, some people are just lost out here. You know, some people are missing. And they don't have a clue. If nothing else, I'm hoping that that even gives them hope. That your people will come home. You will find out what happened to them.

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Get your people to help son, daughter, uncle, brother, sister, the help that they need. Mom or dad, the help that they need with their mental health issues. Just whatever. I just hope someone has been encouraged.

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My name is Kimberly Jackson.

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So we were always told her name was Zinni. It was just such a mystery. Such a mystery as to what happened to her. With just about everybody else, you know, there was a beginning to the story and there was an end to the story. And they have the whole middle. There wasn't that with her. There was not that with her. There was always obituaries and always, of course, like I said, stories to be told.

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But hers was always that sense of unknown. And with that, like I said, a little twinge of sadness, but with a lot of love, a little twinge of sadness. And it just felt like, you know, it was just a puzzle missing.

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Oh, yeah, because my grandma was big on visiting cemeteries. So, yeah, we were, oh, yeah. Thank you.

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My grandma was big on visiting cemeteries. It was the whole thing for them to have the churches to get together and clean the cemetery, you know, mow the lawn at the cemetery, change out the flowers. That was the whole thing. That was a day set aside to do that kind of thing. Look, I'm a little kid. I'm at all the funerals.

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It felt like, you know, there was always obituaries and always, of course, like I said, stories to be told. But hers was always that sense of unknown.

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It was a happy memory, but it was only one memory of her baking this cake for her birthday. And to then go from that to news of her passing, it's just a lot of gaps. And a sense of, a little bit sense of longing. Now she would never really dwell on it too long. Like if she mentioned her, she would say a little something and that was it. So she wasn't, she didn't ever shy away from it.

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But there was just always this sense of that's all there is. You know, that like there's, this is the end of the story. There's nothing else. But with a lot of love, but there were two ends of sadness.

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But they never had that. They never tried to keep it a secret. It wasn't a secret that she went to Whitfield, as they called it. There was never they never did. Never did. And I will say that, yeah, it wasn't something they tried to hide. They were always very upfront about that.

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As time went on, they called it Whitfield. So in our minds, we're thinking that she was buried where Whitfield is, out in Pearl somewhere.

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My grandmother attended Tougaloo. So when I think about it, she was not that far from where her mother was buried. And she had no idea. No idea that that's where she was buried.

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I see an ad in the Carthage Genium, which is our local newspaper, and it mentioned that the following people were believed to have been buried at Asylum Hill. And I see her name. And so it had a contact number. It turned out to be lighter. And so that's how I found out. You ever watch Roots? You know how Alex Haley, when he made it to Africa and he went to the...

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to the village where Kunta Kinte was born, and he was like, I found you, you know. That's how I felt. I was like, oh my God, we found her, I found her. And I let my family know, you know, and you know, the whole, you know, I was like, oh my God, I told my mom. First I told her, I was like, your grandma sent a name in the paper, you know. And yeah, so it was, I felt,

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a sense of relief, but just to know that, you know, it was just mind boggling that to think that, to see her name in print, to know that, oh, there's more to the story. I'm able to fill in the gaps, just mind-blowing. Because think about this, by this time, my mama's in her late 70s, you know, finding all of this out.

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And so, like I said, all of a sudden, Zenni went from being, you know, a story to a real, you know, person. I mean, think about a person with a whole entire life. You know, not just, you know... creating a home life with, you know, her grandfather and, you know, having my, you know, because basically it was, when they heard of Grandma Zinni, it was the same way she told it to us.

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You know, there was no extra stories, you know what I'm saying? And so to go from, wow, so, you know, there was an actual, they go from her being admitted to the hospital to her dying. No news of what happened while she was there, no nothing.

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For lack of a better word, completeness. My people always talked about their family. always, both sides, you know, always was all of this talk about, remember what grandma did, remember what uncle so-and-so did, a cousin so-and-so. There was always these stories, always. And when it came, and so it makes me, like I said, it makes me give a sense of completion in a way.

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Finding Zen, I just really feel like, ah, I got it. This is, it fills me to finally know that there was an end to her story, whether happy or sad, there was an end because it didn't, it was just such a mystery. Such a mystery as to what happened to her. With just about everybody else, you know, there was a beginning to the story and there was an end to the story. And they have the whole middle.

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There wasn't that with her. There was not that with her.

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There's a grove of trees in the grassy area. If I'm not mistaken, that's where she would have been buried. I ride by there now and think, you know, she's there. I think about it as her burial place, you know, when I drive by. I look out there and I think, you know, there she is.

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And that's what my grandmother and her siblings did not ever have, was a sense of, there she is, or we can go out there and visit her when we would like to, or drive by. They did not have that sense at all. They never knew where she was.

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Now somebody, your children were raised with love. So, you know, don't think that, you know, they were just out there in the world left to their own devices. No, they were raised in the manner you would have want them to be raised. They were loved in the way that you would want them to be loved. We did not ever forget about you. You were always loved. You were always missed.

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We just did not forget. But now we have found you.

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I feel at peace knowing that I found her. You know, I felt a sense of peace knowing that we found her. So right now, I'm just, you know, living in that peace.

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And it just felt like, you know, it was just a puzzle missing. You know, it feels like now the piece, like I have the piece of the puzzle that I just felt like my family needed.

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Right now, pre-K through second grade, they think you're a superstar. Every day, it's like walking on a red carpet every day.

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That was clear even when we were trying to pin her down for an interview time.

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So, thank you for making this drive. You're welcome. Like I said, my aunt and uncle in... They're on the third floor? Yeah, they're right in there. Oh, that's perfect. Okay, great.

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One gentleman from the community said, I'm going to walk you home, but let me run out here to get a lamp. to her great-uncle's fashion choices. He wore these knickerbockers and thought that he was looking real sharp with these knickerbocker pants on, you know. So they would laugh and they would joke at him and say, you think you something with these knickerbockers on, you know, whatever.

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What do you know about her? bits and pieces. So, uh, since all of this has occurred, I found out a little bit more. Uh, so I always, we were always told her name was Zinni. She married my grandfather, Monroe G. And they had four children. They had three boys and then a girl, which was my grandmother, Marie. So they lived in Conway and, um,

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My great-grandmother was born and raised in another community in Leakey County called Pilgrim Rest. And so a lot of her family members are buried in the Pilgrim Rest church cemetery. Except for her, but I'll get to that.

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And as the story goes, when her mother passed away, she became, I guess, so despondent with grief that that she slowly started to, her mental health started to decline. My grandmother always said that she had a nervous breakdown.

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One cousin said that she would leave home, she would put my grandma on her hip and take off walking. And, you know, people be like, you know, where is it? You know, looking for her, where is it? And she would hitch a ride going to Pilgrim Rest. She would just take off, hitch a ride, go to Pilgrim Rest, you know, hitch a ride, get on, you know, and come back. They said she'd always come back.

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She'd always come back. My great-grandfather was able to get her admitted to Asylum Hill.

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According to my cousins, my great-grandfather went to visit her at least three times. And that must have been a hard track for that time. Exactly. Now that touched me, because when I think about, now this is Mississippi. In the late teens, you know, him traveling either by wagon or a Model T kind of a car, who knows? You know, to think about him getting back and forth three times.

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Oh, he loved her. You can't tell me he didn't love her. If he was determined to visit her three times, yeah, he meant to bring her home. until he, for some reason, thought that he couldn't. He and her family were thinking, of course, that this was going to be a short-term stay, you know. And so her brother said to my great-grandfather, so when are you bringing Zenny home?

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And he said, I don't know. Every time I go, she gets further and further away from me. While she was at Asylum Hill, she passed away. So as far as I know, it was through a telegram is how he found out that she passed. As far as I know, he was not able to see her before she was buried. You know, they thinking she's going somewhere for a little while and she never comes back.