Gilbert King

Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season 1. I just knew him as a kid. Long, silent voices from his past came forward.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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And they had secrets of their own to share.

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Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it.

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Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known.

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Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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I never expected to find myself in this place. Now, I need to tell you how I got here.

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Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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Bone Valley Season 2. Jeremy.

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Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season 1. I just knew him as a kid. Long, silent voices from his past came forward.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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And they had secrets of their own to share.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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I never expected to find myself in this place. Now, I need to tell you how I got here.

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Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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Bone Valley, Season 2. Jeremy.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season 1.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.

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Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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Listen to new episodes of Bone Valley Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season 1.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 21 - Angelique Pt. 1

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Listen to new episodes of Bone Valley Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 5 - Melissa’s Listener Essay

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At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 5 - Melissa’s Listener Essay

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I'm Gilbert King. I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 5 - Melissa’s Listener Essay

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At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 5 - Melissa’s Listener Essay

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At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 5 - Melissa’s Listener Essay

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Jeremy, I want to tell you something.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 1 - Behind the Scenes Q&A

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Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 1 - Behind the Scenes Q&A

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Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 1 - Behind the Scenes Q&A

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Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.

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Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 1 - Behind the Scenes Q&A

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Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 28 – Hannah, Pt. 1

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I'm Gilbert King. I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 28 – Hannah, Pt. 1

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I'm Gilbert King. I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 4 - The Science of Storytelling for Trauma Recovery

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I'm Gilbert King. I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 4 - The Science of Storytelling for Trauma Recovery

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I'm Gilbert King. I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott.

Betrayal: Season 4

S3: BONUS EP 1 — An Update from Stacey and Tyler

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If the cops and everything would have done their job properly, my dad would have been in jail. I would have never existed.

Betrayal: Season 4

S3: BONUS EP 1 — An Update from Stacey and Tyler

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If the cops and everything would have done their job properly, my dad would have been in jail. I would have never existed.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 31 – Jan

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Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season 1. I just knew him as a kid. Long, silent voices from his past came forward.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 31 – Jan

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And they had secrets of their own to share.

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I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it.

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I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known.

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I never expected to find myself in this place. Now, I need to tell you how I got here.

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Bone Valley Season 2. Jeremy.

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Listen to new episodes of Bone Valley Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear the entire new season ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 31 – Jan

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Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season 1. I just knew him as a kid. Long, silent voices from his past came forward.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 31 – Jan

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And they had secrets of their own to share.

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I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it.

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I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known.

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I never expected to find myself in this place. Now, I need to tell you how I got here.

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Bone Valley Season 2. Jeremy.

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Listen to new episodes of Bone Valley Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear the entire new season ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 31 – Jan

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Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season 1.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 31 – Jan

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I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.

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Listen to new episodes of Bone Valley Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 31 – Jan

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Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season 1.

Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: EP 31 – Jan

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I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.

Betrayal: Season 4

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Bone Valley

Jeremy | Chapter 4 - Horse and Buggy

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When I walked through the door, the shopkeeper's bells chimed softly. A middle-aged woman behind a desk looked up and fixed her eyes on me. The office was quiet, and we were alone. I introduced myself gently, explaining why I had come. To say she was stunned would be an understatement. She sat in silence, staring at me for what felt like minutes.

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Sometimes reinvestigating a murder case that's been shelved for more than 30 years can stir up consequences I try to tread carefully around. If there's one thing I've learned following this story to its farthest edges is that some people survive by burying their most traumatic memories just to move on.

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Before I ever met Jeremy's former girlfriend, Jamie, before I knew Jamie and Jeremy had a son together named Justin, I read carefully through something she said about Jeremy in a deposition.

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And then here I come, a writer with a podcast, asking them to revisit the very past they've worked so hard to leave behind. As I explained my investigation into Joseph Lever's death, she glanced down, her fingers moving across her phone as she sent a text, still not saying a word. I mentioned that I'd tried to call her a few years ago, and she responded bluntly. She'd blocked me.

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I assured her that I could answer any questions she might have about the case. A few minutes later, the bells jingled again as another woman walked in. Her name was Joy, Janet's sister. After receiving Janet's text, she Googled me and decided I seemed legitimate. With Joy's reassurance, Janet's demeanor softened. She relaxed and eventually agreed to speak with me.

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What was it like when I walked through this door?

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I explained to Janet that I wanted to understand more about Joseph, about who he was before he was killed. J.B. I didn't know that Joseph LeVere went by J.B.,

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Janet tells me she and J.B. went fishing the day before their son was born.

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Janet and JB had a son together, a boy named Christopher. Their marriage ended when Christopher was just two, but they remained friends.

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Janet's last conversation with JB was about making plans to get together the next day.

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But JB went to his shift that night and never made it home.

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She said something that, as far as I could tell, no one had ever looked into.

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At his funeral, Janet learned what JB had wanted to talk to her about.

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But Janet would never have that conversation with the father of their son.

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It was Buddy Shepard's job to find out who killed J.B., A week after the murder, he had his suspect.

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Yeah, we saw that picture in the Orlando Sentinel.

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Yeah, he's like laid out on the ground. Yeah. Looking at all the case files, I could never figure out why Buddy Shepard set his sights on Dan Odie for this murder. Buddy just tells me that's where his investigation led him.

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What Buddy Shepard didn't know was that at the very moment he began investigating who killed JB, Jeremy Scott was hiding in an abandoned house just a few blocks away from the crashed taxi, waiting for Buddy's dogs to sniff him out. Jeremy told me this, and from what Buddy tells me, it sounds like police dogs had picked up Jeremy's scent from a baseball cap that was left behind in the taxi.

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Okay. So the dog thought that whoever did this went to the abandoned house?

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Okay. Yes, sir. The dogs got close, but they lost his scent. Jeremy and I went over this too.

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One of the things that we learned about from your deposition was that, I think they asked if you were aware of Jeremy committing any other crimes. And he said to you, I killed a cab driver once. Can you just walk us through what you remember of that moment?

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All these years later, Jeremy Scott is still waiting for the police to hold him accountable.

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I wrote a letter to Jeremy saying, I know it must be difficult to replay these memories from so many years ago and then write them down in a letter. I can't imagine how that must feel, trying to tell people all of this when they won't believe you. I just wanted you to know that I'm listening and I'm grateful to hear from you. Jeremy wrote back with a letter unlike anything I'd ever read.

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I'm going to tell you the whole story, he wrote. I want you to understand, I can be charged with this murder, and I'm okay with this. I will never get out, so I'm going to tell you. What followed was a stream of details that could not possibly have come from somebody who just read about this case in the news. I'm going to read to you what he wrote. Dear Mr. King,

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I might can't remember every little thing, okay? And what I tell you is true. He explains he'd broken into a cop's house and stole a .357 Magnum pistol he found in a closet. I got a ride to Kissimmee. It was after 11.30 p.m. I was walking around. I really didn't know what to do. Then I thought about showing the gun at someone and asked for their money, like on TV.

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but there were too many people around. Then I saw a taxi cab. Jeremy writes that he got the number and called. When a cab come to pick me up, I told him that I wanted to go to Intercession City. I know this place better than most. I lived there when I was little. I told him I live on Old Dixie Highway, so it's real dark out there at night. Once we passed the last house, I pulled the gun out.

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When he saw what I had, I told him to keep driving. Once I know there ain't any home close by, I told him to pull over, to turn the car off, and leave the lights on. Then we got out. I asked him where does he keep the money. That's when he told me there ain't any, because he just came on and I was the first person he picked up. JB was lying to Jeremy.

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His shift was just about to end, and he'd hidden $154 in a folded map tucked inside the glove compartment. Outside, the night was pitch black. The round headlights of the 1977 Dodge sedan casting faint light along Old Tampa Highway. JB was staring down the barrel of a .357 Magnum. And this is the part of the letter where Jeremy describes the murder. I was pointing the gun at him.

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Jeremy once told me about this conflict, too. It was between him and his mom's boyfriend. Jeremy said he was accusing this boyfriend of abusing his mom.

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I had the damn thing pulled back and waved it at him. Then all I remember was hearing this loud boom. I look at him and it seems that he was coming. And I shot him again. Then once more. I'm sure that I shot that gun three times. It was crazy. I ran to the car and turned it around and was going real fast until I got to the stop sign. I turned and went over the tracks and turned real fast right.

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I was going fast and I couldn't stop it. Then I hit a car and it hit another, I think. But once I hit that car, I turned the wheel real fast and I hit a pole. Jeremy writes that he knew one of them, someone named John, and he says he yelled at them, told them the car was going to blow, then took off over the tracks.

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In his letter to me, Jeremy included a hand-drawn map of the streets of Intercession City, carefully sketching the exact route he took in the stolen taxi cab after the murder. He wrote, Look at this map. It will show you the truth. With arrows and lines, Jeremy illustrated how the taxi ricocheted off a parked car before crashing into a light pole.

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He accurately labeled the streets and even drew figures to represent the witnesses he saw approaching the scene. He also sketched a path to show the direction he fled afterward. Nearly every detail matched police reports and witness depositions. His account went beyond anything that had ever been revealed in the media coverage of the case.

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At the end of his letter, Jeremy wrote, It turns out that's not always the case. By the time I'd gotten Jeremy's confession, verified his connection to Intercession City, and how he was able to corroborate details from the murder of J.B. LeVere that were never made public, I was feeling incredibly optimistic. There was no possible way law enforcement could ignore this new evidence.

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Jamie says she remembers that incident and Jeremy getting very angry.

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I took what I had to the Orlando Sentinel, and they decided to do a front-page feature story about my investigation. They even reached out to the sheriff's office in advance for a comment, and the sheriff responded with this. Thank you for your patience as we gathered the facts.

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Following the meeting with Mr. King in 2021, the Osceola County Sheriff's Office did re-examine the LeVere homicide case. After a careful review, we did not find any facts to substantiate the claim that Jeremy Scott was the killer. We believe, based on the evidence, Daniel Odie is and was the correct suspect. When I read their response, I was stunned and furious.

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And the more I read, the worse it got. The Osceola sheriff publicly smeared Dan's name once again, calling him a murderer who had gotten off on a technicality. Let's be clear. Dan Odie was acquitted because a jury of his peers found him not guilty of murder. There's nothing technical about that. Now this had turned into something I couldn't walk away from.

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I had waited, trusted, and expected officials to take action, to dig deeper for the truth— The Osceola County Sheriff's Office might have decided to ignore Jeremy's confession and the evidence I'd gathered, but that didn't mean I was going to let it go. There were still untapped paths in my investigation, and now I knew exactly where I had to go.

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When the Sheriff's Office wouldn't act, I turned to the prosecutors. Ah, shit. That's terrible. I'm going to park this again. I just parked in a really shitty spot. It's one of those days. One of those days.

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I know. How are you feeling about this, Kelsey? You feel confident?

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This one I actually have a good feeling about. I reached out to the Ninth Circuit State Attorney's Office, knowing that they had the authority to conduct their own investigation into who killed JB. I managed to arrange a meeting with Chief Assistant State Attorney Ryan Williams and two investigators from his office. He said, just text, send me a text message when you are downstairs.

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I'll come to escort you in. They agreed to meet with me and Kelsey on a federal holiday, no less. Because we are closed, I will also be dressed more casual than usual. Please feel free to be casual. Too late, dude. Should I take off my jacket then? We walk toward the office and mentally prepare for what should be an important meeting. We should do a selfie in front of the courthouse for later.

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All right. Okay. We'll do it later. After we're victorious. I guess we can walk over there. Coming down. They didn't allow us to record the meeting, but it was clear from the start that ASA, Ryan Williams, and his team were taking this seriously. Kelsey turned on the recorder again when we stepped outside.

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When we were presenting to them, they were curious, asking a ton of questions, really good questions. But unless they find some physical evidence, from a legal standpoint, it's going to be difficult for them to go forward.

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Yeah, and I believe them. I really do feel like they were engaged, and they want to do this. They just need that physical evidence, and I thought that was a much more real... This could be the turning point that finally sets the record straight about JB's murder.

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You know, what are the odds that Jeremy Scott confesses to a murder of a taxi cab when he's not in prison, when it's a town he used to live in, and when he can draw a map showing his exact movements that match every witness's? I mean, that's the kind of thing that, you know, from a storytelling point, I'm convinced. But they need physical evidence in order to go forward, and that's where we are.

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A few weeks later, I get an update. Okay, this is a letter from Ryan Williams from December 19th, 2023. Good afternoon, Mr. King. I hope this email finds you well in the midst of a pleasant holiday season. I wanted again to reach out on this case and homicide we discussed back in September.

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Williams wrote that one of his investigators searched for the physical evidence from the case at both the sheriff's office and the county clerk. After several efforts, we obtained an answer and paperwork indicating that the physical evidence associated with the case was returned to the sheriff's office and was destroyed by them in 2009.

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I have no reason to believe this destruction was improper in any way, but the bottom line is that it no longer exists to be tested. The Osceola County Sheriff's Office destroyed all the physical evidence from the Joseph B. LeVere homicide. All of it. I know that there had been a hat, hair samples, a bullet, 22 fingerprints on the car.

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Jeremy Scott left fingerprints at the other three murders he confessed to. Now, there's no way to know if the prints left behind were his. Williams was telling me that the sheriff destroyed all of it.

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So, I mean, I just feel like there's more to do here. I'm not stopping. All right.

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ASA Ryan Williams encouraged me to keep investigating and told me to reach out if I uncovered anything significant. I try everything I can think of. I track down John, the witness that Jeremy recognized as he was getting out of the crash taxi. John grew up with Jeremy in Intercession City. At trial, he testified that it was Dan Odie he saw getting out of the cab.

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I get John on the phone and he remembered all of it. When I tell him that Jeremy is in prison today for a different murder, and he confessed to being the one who killed the cab driver, John says, I gotta go, and hangs up the phone. He doesn't say, no, it was Dan Odie. He says, I gotta go. Click. After that, I went to his house three times, hoping he would change his mind and agree to talk to me.

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Every time I showed up, I saw his brother standing outside. He called me a persistent motherfucker, but in a nice way. My brother's still not talking to you, he told me. This was one of those times when I wished I had the power to subpoena witnesses. Still, there was one piece of evidence, probably the most important in the entire case.

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It had been destroyed by the sheriff's office, but I believe there was a way to link it to Jeremy and to the murder of J.B. LeVere. Jeremy told me that after he killed J.B., he got behind the wheel of the cab, drove it a mile away, and crashed it into a utility pole. When Buddy Shepard arrived at the scene in 1987, he saw the crashed cab empty after the murderer had gotten out and run away.

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Former detective Buddy Shepard took us to that spot. So what did you see when you pull up the, like, the car's right in there somewhere, right?

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Jeremy mentions the hat in a letter he wrote me. The hat was given to him by his cousin, Jason. He says, I didn't know that I forgot my hat my cousin gave me. The hat was black. We wore so many hats growing up. As kids, we always thought they were cool hats. If the hat were still around, the state attorney's office could test the sweatband for DNA or compare the hairs found inside with Jeremy's.

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But since the Osceola County Sheriff's Office destroyed it, that's no longer an option. Buddy used to work at the sheriff's office and says he knows the guy responsible for destroying the evidence.

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If you've been listening since the beginning of this story, you've heard Jeremy tell me a little about this murder.

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We saw that. Major Wiley Black supervised the Homicide and Violent Crimes Unit at the time the evidence was destroyed.

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50 years is how I remember it. While the sheriff's office may have eliminated the physical evidence, a clear photograph of the hat still exists in the case files. I've always wondered if someone in Jeremy's family might have a photo of either Jeremy or his cousin Jason wearing that baseball hat. I wrote to Jeremy about it, and he got back to me right away. He wrote, You asked me if I had pictures.

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No, I don't. But I'm sure there's some out there. Grandma had some. But when she passed away, I don't know who would have got them all. She always saved all of them. But Aunt Debbie, Judy, or Mama might have some. I don't really know. I tried to track down Jason Scott, who, according to Jeremy, gave him a black baseball cap.

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Jason passed away years ago, but I'd been texting with Jason's brother Joshua. I wanted to show him a picture of the hat in person to see his reaction, but we couldn't make it work. Finally, I decided to text him a photo of the hat instead. Long shot, I wrote, but does this hat look familiar? A few hours later, Joshua replied, Yes, I recognize that cap, he wrote.

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Jeremy and his brother Dean fought over that cap, but my mom always told us that cap wasn't fit to wear. The next time Jeremy called me, I mentioned that I'd spoken with his cousin Joshua. I wanted to see if Jeremy could confirm what Joshua had said about the hat, that he and his brother Royal Dean had fought over it.

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I'm still holding out hope that the family might find a picture of Jeremy, or even his cousin Jason, wearing that hat. I told Buddy Shepard more than once that I believed he went after the wrong man in Dan Odie, and that I was convinced Jeremy Scott had killed J.B. LeVere. After showing him all the evidence I'd uncovered, I just wanted to know if any of it had made a difference to him.

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Did you know who Jeremy Scott was? Because he lived in Intercession City for some time.

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I thought when I showed you this and that, I thought you were going to say you considered Jeremy Scott a suspect.

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You do?

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Yeah.

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Even Buddy Shepard, the detective who led the original investigation, acknowledges that Jeremy Scott should now be considered a suspect in the murder of J.B. LeVere. And yet, I remain the only person who has ever questioned Jeremy Scott about this crime. When Kelsey and I visited Dan Odie in 2019, he eagerly supported our investigation. I promised him I'd return with everything I uncovered.

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I had hoped that, with all the police and court records in hand, and Jeremy helping to piece together each detail, Dan's name could finally be cleared. And that the clarity and consistency of Jeremy's memories would solidify the truth behind not just his confession to J.B. LeVere's murder, but to Michelle Schofield's murder as well.

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Now, with all the evidence destroyed, it feels like any chance of giving Dan the peace he deserves has been stolen for good. And here's what infuriates me most. To protect the narrative that they targeted the right men in Dan Odie and Leo Schofield, the state is asking the public to swallow a lie. That Jeremy Scott's confessions are just stories, not evidence.

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Jeremy is in prison for life for murdering just one person, Donald Moorhead, the man whose blood Jamie saw on Jeremy's pants. Jeremy confessed to police the next day. Then, when Kelsey and I first met him in prison, he confessed to two more murders, Leo Schofield's wife Michelle and a cab driver.

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I can only assume these lawmen and prosecutors would rather bury the truth than admit their case was built on a lie at the cost of two innocent lives and any semblance of justice. I dredged all of this back up in an effort to set the record straight and to find something closer to true justice. Instead, it's mostly brought more turmoil for people like JB's ex-wife.

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This is one of the painful, unintended consequences of digging into these old cases. Back in 2019, when we interviewed Dan Odie, I promised him I'd come back with everything I'd learned in my investigation. There were so many times over the years when I thought I'd finally be able to bring him good news that his name had been officially cleared in the murder of J.B. LeVere.

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But with the sheriff's office destroying the evidence and dragging his name through the mud again in the Orlando Sentinel article, that closure may never come. This wasn't a call I wanted to make. I was afraid all of this would create even more pain for Dan.

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Maybe, just maybe, reopening questions about the past can also lead to something more than heartbreak.

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Do you remember the first letter that Jeremy sent to you?

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Oh.

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Our executive producers are Jason Flom, Jeff Kempler, and Kevin Werdes. Kara Kornhaber is our senior producer. Jackie Pauly and Hannah Beal are our producers. Britt Spangler is our sound designer. Mary Ann McCune is our editor. Fact-checking by Dania Suleiman. Jeff Clyburn is our head of marketing and operations. Our social media director is Ismadi Gouardrama.

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But the state of Florida insists those two confessions are fabrications, that Jeremy is just seeking attention or manipulating me, a naive writer who fell for his lies. And through it all, they maintain their original claims that Jeremy Scott isn't worth listening to, no matter how much evidence says otherwise.

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Our social media manager is Sarah Gibbons. And our art director is Andrew Nelson. Additional research and production by Kelsey Decker. Additional sound recording by James Johnson. Bone Valley is written and produced by me, Gilbert King. Follow us on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and threads at LavaForGood.

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A Florida prosecutor once told me, the only chance in hell I have of one day convincing the state to overturn Leo's conviction is to show them that Jeremy is telling the truth. No one is going to reopen these murder cases unless I hand them some undeniable piece of evidence that corroborates Jeremy's confessions.

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So that is my mission, and Jeremy Scott has become my most constant ally, someone I believe is being more truthful and more credible than the prosecutors and sheriffs, the ones who failed to properly investigate the murders Jeremy has confessed to getting away with. That's why I asked Jeremy for his help. Dear Mr. King, he wrote me last year, I'm going to tell you the whole story.

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He said, I want you to understand I can be charged with this murder, and I'm okay with this. I will never get out, so I'm going to tell you. The End

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Bone Valley, Season 2. Jeremy. Chapter 4. Horse and Buggy. After Jeremy confessed, on taping and writing, to killing a cab driver, I brought everything I'd learned to the Osceola County Sheriff's Office. This was a 34-year-old unsolved murder, and they said they'd look into it again. I thought the detectives there would be grateful for the leads I'd given them, but I was wrong.

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The sheriff's office blew me off. They never got back to me, and I was banging my head against the wall again. But then, one morning, after we'd made public everything we'd learned, I got an unexpected message on Facebook. It was from Buddy Shepard, the first detective to arrive at the scene of the murder. In Shepard's profile pic, he's wearing a white cowboy hat. I click the message.

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Mr. King, it has been brought to my attention that you might want to speak to me. I am Buddy Shepard, retired staff inspector of the Osceola County Sheriff's Office. If in fact you do, please contact me. Thank you from a big fan of all your books. I couldn't get anyone from the Sheriff's Office to give me the time of day with this case.

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And now, the lead detective at the center of it says he wants to talk.

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Now you get gone from here. Buddy's tiny, three-legged lap dog runs over to us. His name is Cujo. Cujo, right? Yep, Cujo. Definitely looks like a Cujo. Cujo, baby, go to the house, honey. I was surprised Buddy Shepard wanted to talk to me. He was the detective who first tried to pin this murder on a man named Dan Odie. Dan was brought to trial for the murder twice.

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And after a hung jury in the first trial, he was found not guilty by a jury of his peers, but his name was still dragged through the mud. And in the first season of Bone Valley, I talked to several people who told me Detective Buddy Shepard threatened them, like Tanya Dean.

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She was a 15-year-old single mother at the time of the murder, and she said Shepard pushed her to tell a false story.

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And then there was Dan Odie himself, the man who faced the electric chair because of Shepard.

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So why would Buddy want to talk to me, of all people? And did I want to talk to him? Buddy had spent some time in jail for threatening a guy on his front lawn with a gun. I didn't want to be next. But in his message confirming our visit, he wrote, I hope you are well, my favorite author. Damn, this guy really knows how to turn on the Southern charm.

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Not long after that message, Kelsey and I were with Buddy outside his trailer near Intercession City. He wanted to address the accusations against him.

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The Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigated the accusations that Buddy Shepard was threatening witnesses to frame Dan Odie. Yeah, I was going to say, they did an investigation, and like in a week they cleared you. Yeah, sure. But I wanted to keep Buddy talking.

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I asked him if he'd be willing to give us a tour of the crime scene, to take us back to April of 1987, the night Joseph LeVere was killed. Buddy has back problems, so he gets around with a rollator, sort of a walker with wheels that you can sit down and rest if you need to. I'll get this. I'm going to put this in the back. I folded up his rollator and put it in the trunk.

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Buddy sat up front with me, and Kelsey sat in the back with her microphone pointing between us.

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Oh, there you go. The area just outside of Intercession City is still pretty rural. We pass through farmland and prairies with cattle grazing along the way.

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The whole time Buddy was in the car, I kept wondering why he wanted to talk to me.

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Besides Jeremy, Buddy Shepard and I are probably the two people who know more about this case than anyone else alive. And I'm convinced Buddy knows things I don't, things nobody else knows. Maybe this former detective who wanted to convict Dan Odie would now reveal some key piece of information or evidence to finally prove that Jeremy Scott was the person who killed the taxi cab driver.

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I want him to talk.

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We pull over to the side of Old Tampa Highway and park on the spot where Lavera's body was found in April 1987. That night, a nearby resident heard gunshots and called police.

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Standing there on the side of the road with Buddy, it became clear. There was so much more to the story I still needed to understand. Like, who was Joseph LeVere? I wanted to know more. So I tried to track down his ex-wife, Janet. I sent her a few messages. She never responded. But I had a rural address in southwestern Georgia that seemed promising. It would be a long drive, but I had to try.

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When I pulled up to the address, I saw an above-ground pool in the front yard with half a dozen kids splashing and laughing in the water. On the porch... A young woman in summer clothes stepped out, shielding her eyes from the sun. I introduced myself and explained that I was looking for Janet. She seemed wary at first, her eyes narrowing as she sized me up.

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The kids in the pool stopped playing and their laughter faded as they turned to watch this stranger standing in the yard. With a thick Georgian accent, the young woman finally spoke. Janet was her mom. She's at work just up the road, she said, and even offered directions. A few minutes later, I pulled up to a small mobile home office situated along a busy stretch of road.

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And Jeremy was giving me good information. I was able to source it and corroborate it with records I had.

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In one of his letters to me, it's clear Jeremy was still thinking about Michelle. He wrote, They know Leo didn't do it. Hell, he'd been locked up for 35 years. The state don't want people to really know. During the course of my conversations with Jeremy, Leo was finally able to get out of prison. He wasn't exonerated. He was still a convicted felon in the eyes of the state.

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But he was paroled, and he was now in a halfway house in Tampa. So I told Jeremy about it and told him Leo believes that a big part of why he's out is because of you and your willingness to be honest about what you've done. Jeremy didn't say much, but I could tell he felt like he'd done something good.

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It was a strange place for me to be, in between these two guys, both of them caring about each other. In a way, it's what gave me permission to continue the conversations, even when they weren't explicitly about the cases I was investigating.

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He always seemed to call when I was at the office, so I'd see it pop up on my phone saying, Rayford.

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I always picked it up if I saw it. I'd just say, all right, half hour, time for Jeremy.

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From the very start, I was excited to get his calls.

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Like, wow, all right, this is going to be interesting.

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He talked a lot about how, in solitary, reading is the only thing I can do. If I don't have any books, all I can do is sit here and think. And I know those were really dark moments for him. And so he would tell me what he likes to read.

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So I started sending him paperbacks.

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He likes James Patterson and Stephen King. He likes some Western writers. I sent him Game of Thrones.

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I was mostly sending things that my kids had read because Jeremy had only gone through the fourth grade in school. I didn't want to just keep sending him the same authors, so I sent him The Hunger Games to mix things up for him.

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Books have a way of building empathy. They let you step into someone else's life for a little while. And I wanted Jeremy to experience that too. To escape the reality of being locked in a prison cell, even for a moment. I could see how reading relaxed him, how it opened him up. Our conversations became more honest. And as I got to know this side of Jeremy, I started to see him differently.

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The more I talked to Justin, the more it was clear he wanted to talk to his dad.

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The more we talked, the more I understood. He didn't want to be the violent person he'd been in the past. He wanted to be better. And maybe, just by talking with him, I could help him do that.

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Sometimes, Jeremy was in a really, really dark place. And when I'd pick up the phone, I'd recognize that today would just be a listening day.

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He was having some real health problems, losing a lot of weight.

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I would honestly say it's true. I mean, he does talk a lot about his family. I explained to Justin that Jeremy was on lockdown. We've been corresponding with him. I'll just tell you right now, he's in sort of in like solitary confinement right now. Jeremy's life was still marked by chaos and violence, even in prison. At the time, I was the only one writing and talking to him.

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At the time I was getting all these phone calls from Jeremy, I found out that, for the first time, he'd found someone on the inside that he could trust.

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He does feel kind of lonely. It's been only recently that people are talking. He was no longer getting any letters from anyone in his family. He would say to me, you're the only person I talk to. The only person. Jeremy said that to me multiple times.

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This is Oscar Smith. Turns out Oscar went to theological school with Leo while they were both at Hardy CI.

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It's a class that you can get a degree from within the prison. From what I understand, Oscar and Leo graduated at the top of their class.

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After Leo got released, some of the graduates were spread throughout the prison system to serve as pastors for other inmates. Oscar was transferred up to Florida State Prison, where Jeremy was.

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And he mentions that he came from Hardy CI.

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Oscar knows exactly who this is. He's very familiar with Leo's case.

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Jeremy was impressed that somebody close to Leo was still willing to talk to him and be kind to him.

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I remember thinking, like, this is a relief in a way, that now there's someone on the inside who can keep an eye on Jeremy.

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Oscar told me that once a week, he goes up on that wing and talks to Jeremy.

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Oscar was worried about Jeremy's mental health. Oscar told me you busted your head open. What happened?

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I was still pressing Jeremy for answers, but I could feel myself getting pulled into his life in ways I never expected, helping him navigate his health issues, trying to reconnect him with family he hasn't heard from in years. I'll tell you this.

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Yeah. And then there were moments when I heard something else in him, a flash of who he might have been, a childhood memory that makes him laugh.

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I found myself in an unusual position, the bridge between a multiple murderer and the 35-year-old son he'd never met. I never thought I'd end up here. So I want to tell you the story of how I did.

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One day I got this letter from Jeremy. It says, Mr. King, I almost forgot to ask you. You have asked me about my family. I just don't understand why they stopped writing me. My Aunt Debbie, of all people. I tried writing her but heard nothing. Maybe you can find out. I really would like to know. I miss them. Thank you, Mr. King. He's lost his whole family.

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He hasn't had contact with them for over a decade. And I said, well, listen, I'm trying to talk to them too. I'll try to find out. I had no luck with Jeremy's Aunt Debbie, so I reached out to some family members who were close to her. I finally got in touch with her son Joshua, Jeremy's cousin. I set up a time to meet with him, and at the last minute, he said he had COVID. He was very apologetic.

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He said, I'm so sorry, it's just not a good time. So I kept texting him, and he ended up telling me some bad news, news I knew Jeremy was going to take hard.

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Before I met Jeremy's son, Justin, I didn't think anyone else from Jeremy's family was ever going to write him, much less call or visit. I had tried to be a bridge between Jeremy and his family, but I'd failed.

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The Florida State Prison Cemetery at Rayford doesn't get many visitors. The gravestones are simple gray concrete slabs in the ground, each anchored by silver metal plates produced by inmates in the prison's license tag plant. They're embossed with the inmate's name, prison number, and date of death. That's it. You don't see any flowers laid on top.

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It's the final resting place for inmates who died in custody and are unclaimed by family members. Some of the men buried here were strapped to old Sparky, Florida's electric chair, or a gurney where they were executed by lethal injection. Jeremy knows he's never getting out of prison, but the idea of being buried on prison grounds seems to bother him more than anything.

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There would have to be someone out there who cares enough to claim Jeremy's body. When Jeremy's son Justin asked me to help him talk to his dad, I was wary, but also intrigued. I knew if I told Jeremy there was a family member who wanted to talk to him, he would be uplifted. And the idea that it was his son, I could only imagine the excitement he'd feel.

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So I told Jeremy that his son wanted to write to him. Jeremy told me he would write to Justin. And while I waited for them to find their first words for each other, I headed back to Florida. I wanted to make one final attempt to put my hands on evidence that could prove, without a doubt, that Jeremy Scott was telling the truth about what he'd done.

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Yeah, sure.

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That's next time. Bone Valley is a production of Lava for Good Podcast in association with Signal Company No. 1. Our executive producers are Jason Flom, Jeff Kempler, and Kevin Werdes. Cara Kornhaber is our senior producer. Jackie Pauley and Hannah Beal are our producers. Britt Spangler is our sound designer. Marianne McCune is our editor. Fact-checking by Dania Suleiman.

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Jeff Clyburn is our head of marketing and operations. Our social media director is Ismadi Gouardrama. Our social media manager is Sarah Gibbons, and our art director is Andrew Nelson. Additional research and production by Kelsey Decker. Additional sound recording by James Johnson. Bone Valley is written and produced by me, Gilbert King.

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Follow us on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and threads at lava4good.com.

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Bone Valley Season 2. Jeremy. Chapter 3. Never turned her back on me. Well before Justin reached out to me, I got a midnight email from Jeremy. Mr. King, I have no hard feelings towards you or to society. I'll make this short. This will be my last time writing to you. The monster in me is coming alive one last time. Hope everything works out for you. Goodbye.

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After I got that cryptic message, I didn't hear from him again for a while. I had no idea where he was. Finally, I learned he'd been transferred to a different prison. And that's when we found out that he'd gotten into some kind of trouble.

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This is Inspector Padgett regarding an aggravated battery that occurred while you were... I was able to get the report on the incident from the Florida Department of Corrections in a recording of the interview with the victim.

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The critical incident summary from the corrections officer on duty that night is also heavily redacted. It says, by stabbing inmate blank numerous times. Inmate blank was stabbed by inmate Jeremy Scott with an improvised ice pick style weapon. The inmate that he stabbed survived and was transported to a hospital, and Jeremy was put in immediate confinement.

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It was months later, after I found out Jeremy had been transferred to a different prison, that I got this letter. Dear Mr. King, I hope you are doing well. As for myself, I'm still alive. He's got the exclamation point there. He says, I had some trouble. It's all fucked up. I don't have shit. Not even deodorant. I get one free letter once a month. Please get back to me as soon as you can.

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Thanks, Jeremy L. Scott. Jeremy was in solitary confinement at Florida State Prison. And at first, he could only receive letters. But after a few months, he was allowed two free telephone calls a week, one for five minutes and one for 30.

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Jeremy was living alone in a cell, sharing a floor with other inmates who were also in disciplinary confinement. They call it close management, or CM. An officer brings the phone to him in his cell. Hey, can you hear me?

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And at first, we just talked about how he was holding up in solitary.

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He started calling me almost every week. And after a while, I asked him to tell me about the stabbing incident.

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Jeremy claims that another inmate in his dorm with a contraband phone had seen a code, numbers or an emoji or something, with Jeremy's picture. And Jeremy said he'd been in prison long enough to know what that meant. He was a marked man.

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Jeremy said he knew the guy that was supposed to come after him.

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He said he was just laying there with one eye open until the guy fell asleep.

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This is Jeremy's side of the story anyway. There's video of Jeremy getting up from his bunk and going into the bathroom. He grabbed the weapon, went over to the bunk where his would-be attacker had fallen asleep and he started stabbing him. The feeling I got from Jeremy about this is that he wasn't proud of what he did, and he wasn't ashamed of it.

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He was telling me, I had to do this to survive in here. And he said, I stabbed him, but I didn't kill him.

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When I got that note from Jeremy that the monster was coming alive one more time, it was terrifying. And then to learn that he actually waited in the dark in his prison dorm for someone to fall asleep so he could stab him, it made me a little sick. Just what am I doing? Why do I stay in touch with him? Up to this point, most of my communication with Jeremy had been pragmatic.

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I wrote to him with questions and sent him a few stamps. He wrote me back with information that helped confirm he was the man who murdered Leo Schofield's wife. Now I was talking to him every week, sometimes twice, and about all kinds of things. It used to be that the only phone calls I got from prison were from Leo. Leo was the person at the center of this story.

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Leo was the guy I kept in touch with. Now, I started to worry. What would Leo think of my recent telephone calls with the man who confessed to murdering Michelle?

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The first time I talked to Leo about the fact that I was continuing a dialogue with Jeremy Scott, I wasn't really sure how Leo would feel. But Leo told me, Gilbert, I'm proud of you.

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Jeremy continued to help me corroborate that his account of what he'd done to Michelle was the truth, that Leo was innocent. In one of my letters to him, I wrote, You've been so helpful to me in my investigation, and I think you could help me understand a few more things that I'm still not very clear on. In our calls, he would answer most of my questions.

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A Florida prosecutor once advised me that if I want this reporting to one day exonerate Leo, I need to prove that Jeremy Scott is credible. So that's one reason I wanted to keep my conversations with Jeremy going about Michelle and about another murder he told me he committed.

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Where were you born? What did your parents do for a living? Just give us an idea of your growing up and what you remember.

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Jennifer Stone lived just two doors down from Jamie's grandma.

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When Jamie was seven, her mom married a strict and controlling ex-Navy guy. By the time she turned 17, they're divorced, and her mom gets a job as head nurse at a local hospital.

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Jamie found herself experiencing a new sense of freedom, one she'd never known before. With her stepfather out of the picture, she could finally breathe, and in that space, there's a quiet resistance to the control she'd grown up under.

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One night in April 1987, Jamie's sitting in a chair right off the dance floor. She's got thick brown hair and glasses, like a wallflower, hiding off to the side with her friend Maria when they see this teenage boy enter the club. He's tall and thin, and he moves with confidence in a quiet presence that's hard to ignore. His name is Jeremy Scott.

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Jeremy Scott told me in terrifying detail how he was the one who killed Michelle Schofield.

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And he's heading toward them.

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At the end of the night, Jeremy walked her to her car.

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Jamie's friend Maria leaned on one side of the car with her boyfriend.

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While Jeremy and Jamie settled by the driver's side.

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From what I've learned about Jeremy, Secrets seems like the last place he'd want to be. Tight supervision, no alcohol, and parents hovering just outside. So a few nights later, Jamie meets up with Jeremy at one of his usual spots, behind the Lakeland Mall.

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When I first learned about Jeremy Scott, I didn't want to know any more than I had to. Here was a man with a history of extraordinary violence. He was impulsive and volatile, attacking random citizens and teenage girls on the outside, and cellmates, guards, and nurses while locked behind bars. I'll admit, at first I saw Jeremy as sort of a monster. It was Leo, of all people, who changed my mind.

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Jeremy's hanging out with people like this guy named Rambo, a stocky 20-something who wears camo, rides a motorcycle, and who spent some time in the Polk County Jail on burglary charges.

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Jamie's childhood friend Jennifer was less than impressed with Jamie's new boyfriend.

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Jamie's spending more and more time trying to understand Jeremy's secret off-the-grid world. She wants to know more about him and the people who matter in his life.

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As we talked with Jamie, I could sense she was allowing herself to remember not just the painful truths Justin would have to confront about his father, but perhaps for the first time in decades, she was willing to think about why she'd once been drawn to Jeremy Scott.

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But Jamie also found herself doing things for Jeremy, things she never would have imagined doing before she met him. At first, it wasn't anything too bad, just sort of weird.

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It's not unlike giving blood to the Red Cross. They'd go into a harsh fluorescent lit room where people wait in long lines, trading the plasma in their blood for cash.

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It's like they live in separate worlds. While Jamie roller skates with friends, Jeremy's getting drunk in the park. While she's in school, he's breaking into houses and pawning whatever he can.

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One day, Jeremy tells Jamie he wants to take a trip a few hours north. Jeremy gets behind the wheel, even though he doesn't have a license.

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After hours of driving, they finally make it to Perry, Florida. Jeremy pulls into a gas station where his mother Linda is working.

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Leo, whose wife was murdered by this man, was able to see something in Jeremy that I couldn't.

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They make the long, quiet drive back to Polk County. From that moment on, her fear was mounting and always there.

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Sitting in that hotel room with Jamie, listening to her go back in time, I could see she was entering some of the territories she'd tried to leave behind. Things that caused her a lot of pain, and at times, probably caused Justin some pain too.

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But it was a constant battle to keep Jeremy out of her mind.

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But now, with Justin wanting to know everything, Jamie told me it was time she said it all out loud. She takes us back to 1988. She's dating Jeremy, and he disappears yet again.

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He'd hang outside Lakeland's gay bars like the Green Parrot and Fantasy 2000.

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The lesson doesn't take, and he's soon back at Lake Morton after dark, prowling for his next targets.

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I know from going through court records that robbing gay men is not what Jeremy went to prison for this time. Instead, it was for breaking into a home in Lakeland, stealing a few cameras, a VCR, and some other electronics. He was caught, convicted, and sentenced to state prison where he spent over four months until his release in May of 1988.

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Weeks after Jeremy got out of prison, Jamie remembers him disappearing again. For a while, she didn't see or hear from him. She had no idea where he was. Until one hot summer morning, when Jamie, her sisters, and her mom were getting ready to head to Disney World for the day.

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Except for this time. Jamie leaves with her mom and her sisters. They spend the entire day at the Magic Kingdom. And as they step into their ground floor apartment that night, they see him. Jeremy. Jeremy. He's outside, knocking on the sliding glass door.

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Jeremy was trying to tell me and anyone who would listen the truth, that he was the guilty one, not Leo.

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Jamie steps out into the backyard. Jeremy gives a small wave, motioning for her to follow. It's dark now. Jeremy leads her to a spot behind the townhouses, out of sight.

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By the fall of 1988, Jamie's been seeing Jeremy for about a year and a half, always on his terms. She's 18 now, and she drops out of school.

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In season one of Bone Valley, I told you the story of a man fighting to prove his innocence. This season, the story of a man trying to prove his own guilt and the unlikely collection of people who heard Jeremy confess and out of nowhere stepped forward to help him make things right.

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Jamie thought she was finally rid of Jeremy and all the chaos, the violence, and the abuse. But two weeks later, he's back. This time, with blood on his pants and a stolen car. He wants Jamie to get in. And by now, Jamie knows the consequences of telling Jeremy no. Next time...

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Our executive producers are Jason Flom, Jeff Kempler, and Kevin Werdes. Kara Kornhaber is our senior producer. Jackie Pauly and Hannah Beal are our producers. Britt Spangler is our sound designer. Mary Ann McCune is our editor. Fact-checking by Dania Suleiman. Jeff Clyburn is our head of marketing and operations. Our social media director is Ismadi Gouardrama.

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Our social media manager is Sarah Gibbons. And our art director is Andrew Nelson. Additional research and production by Kelsey Decker. Additional sound recording by James Johnson. Bone Valley is written and produced by me, Gilbert King. Follow us on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and threads at lavaforgood.com.

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Jeremy Scott confessed, and the state of Florida doesn't believe him. These are the stories of the people who do.

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Bone Valley Season 2. Jeremy. Chapter 1. You told me no. One morning, in the fall of 2022, I woke up to a flood of text messages, a missed call, and a voicemail that came in at 1 a.m.

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Jeremy's son wanted to talk to me.

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I texted him back right away, and we started chatting. His messages felt urgent. He'd just finished listening to his father confess to murder. Justin wrote, Sorry for getting excited and talking so much. I've never had a chance to talk about my dad, and I'm 34. Hello? Hey, Justin. Hey, how's it going? It's Gilbert. How are you?

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I'm doing good. I'm so sorry I missed you last night. I know it was late. I was asleep the whole time I woke up this morning.

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Yeah, I could imagine. One of the first of a long list of things Justin wants to talk about is actually not his dad. It's Leo. Justin has listened to our podcast, done all these sleepless calculations, and he's come to this conclusion.

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If Jeremy had gone to jail instead of Leo, Justin would have never been conceived.

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While we're on the phone, I realize Justin is with his own son.

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Oh, sweet. Two years old?

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He tells me he's raising his son with his girlfriend, Arielle, who also has three young daughters from a prior relationship. That's how I look at it.

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This is why his voicemail came in so late at night. He's incredibly busy. He works the night shift as a supermarket manager, and during the day he's taking care of the kids while Arielle's at work.

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Justin tells me he feels immense guilt about Leo Schofield.

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In the podcast, he heard his dad trying to tell the truth about Michelle's murder to help absolve Leo. It was the first time he ever heard his dad speak.

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Justin told me, growing up, his mom never spoke about his dad at all. Nothing bad, nothing good, just nothing. But when he was around other family members, he'd catch bits and pieces.

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Yeah. As we talk, I get the sense that overnight, Justin has embarked on a delicate and complicated mission to find out everything he can about his dad, however difficult, and to see if any of what he learns can bolster his dad's confession and help Leo. A big part of that mission is getting his mom, Jamie, to talk to me.

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Among the texts he sent me were screenshots of a Facebook conversation he had with her. He tells her he just finished listening to the podcast and he floods the chat box between them with questions about Jeremy's murders, whether or not Jeremy really loved her, if he tried to kill her. She answers his questions and she tells him that his dad only saw him once.

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Something unexpected happened after I told you the story of a man convicted of murdering his own wife.

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I already knew something about Justin's mom, Jamie Nellems. She was Jeremy's girlfriend around the time of Michelle Schofield's murder. While I was investigating Jeremy's crimes, I saw her name in police reports. So Kelsey and I tried to talk to her years ago. She even agreed to meet us for lunch at a nearby restaurant in Polk County. She texted me that she was on her way.

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We waited and waited, but Jamie never showed up, and I never heard from her again. But now, after hearing his dad talk for the very first time, Justin was asking Jamie to talk to me. In the messages to his mom, he talked about hearing Jeremy's voice. He wrote, he sounded alone and afraid, always on guard, trust issues, weirded me out how alike we are.

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He wanted to know if she heard the podcast too. She says, I haven't. I'm sorry, hon. I can't bring myself to hear his voice again. He says, I understand fully. And when he tells her, I'm trying to contact Gilbert King now and see what happens, she says, he tried to contact me a while back. I wouldn't talk to him. I just couldn't do it.

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Later on, she says, my psych doctor thinks I should tell my story to Gilbert King if it would be therapeutic. Justin urges me to contact her again. He says she wants to talk now.

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Kelsey and I rent a hotel room for our interview with Jamie.

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Kelsey has arranged the room simply. Three chairs, a table in the middle, and two microphones set up.

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If you haven't heard season one of Bone Valley, you might want to go back and listen. It's the story of Leo Schofield, who spent 36 years in prison for a crime he swears he did not commit.

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She's dressed in jeans and a blouse, her short brown hair showing just a hint of gray. She's visibly nervous as we settle around the table. I wanted to start slowly, assuming she might have a hard time opening up. But as she spoke, I realized that this was going to be different from the Jamie I'd come to know through depositions and courtroom transcripts.

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In those formal settings, she was responding to lawyers focused solely on the facts. Here, it became clear she was responding to Justin. She was determined to give him the answers he'd always wanted about his father's life and her own.

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After investigating his case for years, I'm convinced he's telling the truth. Because I also met the one man who says he knows for sure that Leo is innocent.

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I never expected to find myself in this place. Jeremy was pulling me further into his world, drawing me closer to the truth. Jeremy, is that the same place that you hid the gun? Yeah. Now, I need to tell you how I got here.

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Bone Valley, Season 2. Jeremy. Jeremy, I want to tell you something. In this valley of tears. Listen to new episodes of Bone Valley Season 2 starting April 9th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire new season ad-free with exclusive content starting April 9th, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.

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And they had secrets of their own to share.

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I thought I'd reached the end of this story. Everything's been going wrong for me. But the story wasn't done with me.

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Last season of Bone Valley told the story of a man fighting to prove he didn't kill his wife. But this season... So, I spoke to Jeremy yesterday. Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield. I just knew him as a kid. Long, silent voices from his past came forward.

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We'll be speaking with Jeremy Scott.

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I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it.

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I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known.

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Last season of Bone Valley told the story of a man fighting to prove he didn't kill his wife. But this season... So, I spoke to Jeremy yesterday. Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield. I just knew him as a kid. Long, silent voices from his past came forward.

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I never expected to find myself in this place. Jeremy was pulling me further into his world, drawing me closer to the truth. Jeremy, is that the same place that you hid the gun? Now, I need to tell you how I got here.

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Bone Valley, Season 2. Jeremy.

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In this valley of tears. Listen to new episodes of Bone Valley Season 2 starting April 9th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire new season ad-free with exclusive content starting April 9th, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.