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welcome to the Midas touch podcast don't adjust that dial or those knobs you have Anthony Davis you have Michael Popak for a very good reason because and I'll tell you in a minute because the brothers were off doing an exclusive interview with President Joe Biden at the White House along with a lot of our production team and so they said hey Anthony hey Michael there it is
can you uh fill in for the brothers i've been on the brothers podcast so has anthony we've never hosted it in lieu of the brothers we're gonna do our best trust me we will um and here's what we're gonna cover on this show anthony um in case you didn't know we're gonna do uh the ab i called the disney abc settlement bend over Everybody owns everybody.
Trump owns ABC, Disney, and now George Stephanopoulos. And they've decided rather than fight the good fight for the First Amendment and for freedom of the press, they would rather pay $16 million to Donald Trump. That's a terrible, terrible precedent. And we can't allow it. But we're going to talk more about it. Then we're going to talk about Judge Mershon and the immunity decision.
We finally got it. We've got one one down and one to go. The immunity decision went against Donald Trump, which means we're ever closer to him being sentenced. There's one more motion left. We're going to talk about the 41 page decision that just came out with Judge Mershon. I mean, literally, as we were going on the air.
Then the Republicans and MAGA in the House, they've just got, Anthony, they just got mansioned or cinema-ed because one of their own, Victoria Sparks, I thought she was one of their own, out of Indiana, a Republican congresswoman, congressperson, has now declared that she is not going to caucus with the Republicans, meaning, and she doesn't want to be on any committees.
but then strangely wrote all she wants to work on is uh government efficiency and and work with elon musk really weird but what it does to the ever shrinking i can't even call it a majority anymore it's i used to say slim majority but we're down to we're down to one equipoise i don't even know if it's one you and i are going to talk about it i'm going to do the math with you it may be zero uh but that's that's a new crazy development and what's good for the goose is good for the gander so we'll talk about what is the heck is going on
in what looks to be another do-nothing congress the 119th coming in on january 3rd alexander smirnoff getting a little international here that's good for us alexander smirnoff uh he sounds tasty and delicious but what he really is
is a guy who was an fbi informant who lied to the fbi that joe biden and his son took a five million dollar bribe um over the spring and that got all the uh oversight committee and the and the judiciary committee on mag all hot and bothered oh the biden crime family five million dollar bribe because of charisma fake false
And ironically, the same prosecutor that nailed Hunter Biden nailed this guy. So Dan Weiss, too. And I don't know what zero. But Alexander Smirnoff just pled guilty to lying about the Biden family too little too late in my book.
then you and i are going to talk just at the very a little easter egg here at the top about a new show you and i are going to do that we call wait for it everybody global af about how the the world is responding good bad or indifferent to donald trump and the incoming presidency
what they can do to rein him in or what they can do to to salvage their own economies and governments we're watching we're watching european countries and countries in like canada starting already to collapse before donald trump even takes office oh we have so much to talk about anthony first of all good close friend of mine you and i had a long chat yesterday didn't expect to be on the horn with you today but i'm so glad to see you how are you
I'm very well. I think I've got over my depression. You know, a lot of people in this arena, undoubtedly the Midas Mighty, have been through a kind of a brief period of mourning since the election. But so many things have changed, positive things, like I heard today about David Hogg, like
you know running to be a politician i mean these are the types of things that give me the kind of energy to continue and certainly all the messages of support that we've received as well as the kind of resolve of of Midas Touch and the Midas Mighty and you know Ben wrote that piece about really kind of not kowtowing to Trump or any of this drama coming out of the administration.
And that motivated me a lot. So I am now fighting the good fight. I'm back on the horse and I am almost looking forward to taking this on in the new year.
I agree with you. I don't know what the stages of grief were, but I collapsed them all instantly into anger and fighting back. I've been to Miami today. and I took a plane ride. I mean, I took a cab ride to get to the airport and I had a very nice conversation with a guy who instantly recognized me from the show, at least my voice, and we had a long chat.
He had his own legal AF in the back of this car. And he gave me, whenever I meet, I'm able to meet a lot of people in New York, who know the show, he gave me a lot of confidence. He said to me, you know what I like about you and the show? You guys aren't scared of Donald Trump. And maybe you should be, but you're not. And it gives me a lot of confidence. And we're not scared.
I mean, first of all, we're going to talk about the ABC story in a second. I just want to touch on the
the the amazing get by the midas touch network and by ben mysellus and his brothers to have joe biden give what normally would be like on 60 minutes is on the midas touch network and there's a good reason for it we as an american people can no longer trust if we ever did corporate or mainstream media to do the right thing to defend the first amendment the freedom of the press
Instead, they're so worried about their stock price, their licenses, their government contracts, depending upon their parent companies. And now you have this whole parade. It's like they must be standing in line like at Katz's Deli in New York to get in to see Mar-a-Lago and kiss his ass. It's like Apple and Facebook and Amazon. Joe and Mika were first in line, weren't they? Joe and Mika.
I mean, they must bump into each other in the parking lot on the way into Mar-a-Lago. That means what we've been saying is true, that independent media that exists on the ecosystem of YouTube, like the Midas Touch Network and all of the channels and things that we do,
is really the only place because they can't yank my license i mean they can try they can't they can't i don't i don't have a military contract with them i don't have anything that they can take away from me and i'm not worried about them like kash patel going after you know uh olivia troy uh with threatening ridiculous demand letters i don't care about that i've been a practicing lawyer for 33 years and i'll defend myself and everybody on this network from false attacks of defamation
There's a big article today. I don't know if you saw it, Anthony. Do you see the article in Times about the new strategy of the MAGA is going to be, and now that they've been successful with ABC and Disney, the new strategy is going to be to use the investigations and defamation actions.
Yeah, well, Steve Bannon spoke about this as well, because there was a gathering at Mar-a-Lago and Steve Bannon's back in the frame. I mean, he, of course, is the architect of so much of this insanity, including the deconstruction of the administrative state. And, you know, he was in prison. He's out of prison. He should go back to prison. There's this whole thing with him.
I mean, they've all got form, all of these people. But he basically talked about retribution in such clear language.
and it is frightening and i think that this is what people struggle with it's like is it the threat that's frightening because invariably the legal letters or the subpoenas they don't come for ages it all starts with just these kind of empty veiled threats and as you say if you're not frightened of their rhetoric And if you recognize that they're cowards.
And ultimately, in court, they invariably lose these types of cases. Because we don't tell lies. We just report the facts. And they are compulsive liars. And so, ultimately, the truth will catch up with them. I want to say something very quickly, Michael, about the media generally, that kind of media space. Mm-hmm. Because I used to work in the network news in the UK and Europe and stuff.
Everybody. I worked for Al Jazeera and I worked for Sky and various networks. It's so incestuous. And this is the reason that Joe and Mika were first in line to Mar-a-Lago. These people have had long-term relationships with Donald Trump. Donald Trump has been in the media for so long. 30 years, right? Right.
And so he has been around these very same people who are news anchors, who are channel managers and owners, and they all know each other. And so there is history there, and we don't have those relationships. And so we start clean at this point onwards.
Well, as we get into the ABC story, let's look at it this way. Jeff Bezos, who bought the Washington Post and then drowned it, in a bathtub. You know, democracy dies in the darkness? Yeah, it died. It died because he has, Amazon has $30 billion, with a B, billion dollars worth of military contracts with the US government.
Jeff Bezos parties with Ivanka and Jared, their next door neighbors in Florida, right down the street from where I'm at right now. He was never going to allow the Washington Post to bring down another president the way Catherine Graham did
and uh or the new york times day with the pentagon papers or with the uh or with the watergate never and neither is the la times owner who's a billionaire who wants to i want all views i want everything yeah meanwhile you can't endorse kamala harris jeff bezos said the same thing for the washington post and you know these things do have an effect on the election result and that's why for all the people that are like thinking you know was this election rigged
From a disinformation perspective, pretty much, you know, so much disinformation, buying an election by nature of the huge amount of money. We've never seen an election that had this much money spent on it by people who are not even in politics.
And Disney, let's now turn to Disney. Disney, which owns ABC, already got bashed. during the woke era by DeSantis in Florida. Even though they sort of won that, not really. They didn't want to go through it again. Donald Trump in 2017 tried to block, this is known, he tried to block the sale of CNN by Time Warner. because he hated the CNN coverage.
And ABC and Disney don't want to get on the wrong side of Donald Trump. From a First Amendment freedom of speech position, what George Stephanopoulos said in his interview with Nancy Mace, which was consistent with what a federal judge said that Donald Trump was technically a rapist, was easily defendable in Miami, in the courtroom that I'm in all the time down in the Southern District of Florida.
We said that from the beginning on Legal AF. They were never going to settle this case, we said.
because they're in the right just to bring you know i don't want to talk in shorthand for the whole show i want to bring everybody up to speed in an interview back in march nancy mace who's a representative a lot of people know her now because she won't let a transgender member of congress use the bathroom of their choice um and she's she's i almost said balls out on this i read some of her her social media posts she's disgusting on the issue i'll just put it at that but she's also run uh for office um on a platform that she was a rape survivor
It's public. She talks about it. It's part of her personal story. I have no reason to doubt it. That's not my point. But when George Stephanopoulos said to her in an interview, how can you support Donald Trump? where at least two juries, federal juries in New York have adjudged him to be. And then he used the R word. He should have said technical rapist, which is what the judge said.
And the reason we're hung up on the semantics here and splitting hairs over something ridiculous, because whether you're a sex abuser in New York or you're a rapist in New York, I don't see how you could ever be defamed. I don't know how Donald Trump with his reputation could ever be defamed anyway. You have to have an unsullied reputation in order to be defamed. But the issue is this.
In New York, at the time that E. Jean Carroll was sexually assaulted by Donald Trump, she could not accurately testify to the jury because her eyes were closed because she was being sexually assaulted. She could not tell them what part of Donald Trump was inside of her. whether she was digitally or with a penis.
And so the jury said, okay, sexual abuse under the law as it existed in New York at the time. The law has been changed. Now it would be rape. And the judge said when Donald Trump tried the same defamation trick against E. Jean Carroll to try to sue the victim, In that court case, the judge says, because she used the R word, the judge says, no, technically you are a rapist.
I mean, that is a federal judge. So for Stephanopoulos to say to Nancy Mace, how can you, a rape survivor, support somebody who's been a judge to be a rapist? That's what this whole thing is about, for those who don't know. Now, Nancy Mace, did you see Nancy Mace's comments?
Yeah. I mean, she has been running a whole story this week, hasn't she? I mean, she's been walking around with her arm in a cast.
Yeah. She said that she was shamed as a rape victim, which is ridiculous. And then Jeremy, our producer, do you have the social media post that she just put up today? or after the ABC. First of you, and this is Nancy Mace, and now ABC News, we are so back. 2025 will be the year of mainstream media apologies. Okay. And they love this, don't they?
They literally revel in the idea that the mainstream media is going to do a huge backtrack because they've finally got their comeuppance. But it isn't going to play out like that.
Well, what you said earlier is right. The interim, the terror effect of making comments like this is what they want. They want the media to think twice about running any story. Whereas in the past, it was like, you know, we are the media. We're the fourth estate. We are freedom of the press. Forget it. That is over.
And the only place left is independent journalism and independent media platforms because nobody knew what you and I were going to say today. Let alone tell us what to say.
And because we don't have any examples of authoritarianism in the United States from recent history, certainly these few generations that are currently watching this, you don't know necessarily that what he's saying falls under the banner of authoritarianism. But it does. This is the language of the dictators of history.
This is the language of these characters that he hates us comparing him to, the Hitlers and the Mussolinis and the Stalins. He hates that. But the reality is that if you go down the road of the press is the enemy of the people and saying fake news, fake news for nearly 10 years, that is going to have some corrosive effect on the media's ability to take part in the democratic process.
And a true democracy is having a free press that can hold the authorities to account. And Trump is going to do away with that. So we are now living in that kind of post-apocalyptic world that we've been warning about. It's actually happened. Words today confirm the fact that that is the environment we are now living in. And we used to look to the Soviet Union.
and go, well, you know, that stuff will never happen here. It is happening here.
I think the Pulitzer Prize for journalism and investigative reporting, I don't even know who you hand it out to anymore. Certainly not in America. You can't trust any of them. I mean, look, here's the settlement that just happened, just to round out this discussion. Ben and I did on Legal AF an update on the story.
We said, oh, all right, the magistrate federal judge is ordering Donald Trump to sit for deposition this coming week and for Stephanopoulos. Okay, four hour deposition. Fine, do that. And then ABC, you and your white shoe, $5,000 an hour lawyers file your motion for summary judgment. You're gonna win on the First Amendment and put this thing to bed and set the right precedent
that you're not going to a cow town, put your neck voluntarily under the boot of Donald Trump. And instead, not only do we get an announcement of a settlement, it's $16 million, $15 million for a presidential museum It was supposed to be a library, but Trump can't read. He doesn't read.
But interestingly, do you know why they chose the number 15 million? No. I'm sure I'm going to hate it. That is the annual salary of George. That's what he gets paid every year. They reckon he's worth $100 million. I mean, I don't know why, no disrespect to journalists, but I don't know that they're worth that much money.
In this case, you know, they've chosen his annual salary to use as a- That's a very good point.
I didn't know that one. I didn't know that one. Well, look, and the million, they didn't rack up a million dollars in attorney's fees. I know the lawyer that he's using in Coral Gables. There's no way they racked it up on how limited the work's been done in this case at all on one set of motion practice. And they had a very good judge, Judge Altanaga, who I know well.
She's the chief judge of the Southern District. I knew her when she was a Miami-Dade County Circuit Court judge at state court. She's very good. They had the right judge. They have the right facts. They have the right law. They just didn't want
to uh to tangle with donald trump on the way in they wanted to make nice and so stephanopoulos had to agree i'm sure they all got in a room and the ben just did some reporting about some secret meetings between abc executives and donald trump at some point and and now you uh and now you understand it all but but look we're going to talk about um
We'll talk a little bit more about the White House coverage by and why I think Midas got it and no one else got it. This last interview, one of the last interviews for Joe Biden. They're going to talk about this breaking news happened like a half an hour, an hour before we took to the air, which is Judge Mershon, as expected, ruled on and against Donald Trump.
He found that the immunity decision by the United States Supreme Court from July has no impact at all on the evidence that was allowed into the trial that led to the conviction, and therefore he denied it. We're not done yet. There's one more motion coming. We'll talk more about that on the other side of the break, as well as
What is going on with the Republican MAGA zero majority now in the house with Victoria Sparts, a person I never heard of, and now she's the kingmaker.
She's a Ukrainian. She actually voted against more aid to Ukraine. So that's a whole other story.
You know more than I do. You'll take over that one. And then we'll talk about Alexander Smirnoff and things that are going on around the world. But one of the things that keeps this globe spinning and this Midas Touch network spinning because we don't have outside investors is our sponsors. And thank God they were over. Thank whoever.
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And we are back. All right. So, Anthony, for those that are just coming in midstream, the brothers are at the White House.
No big deal.
No big deal. Midas Dutch got the exclusive interview, got the get with President Joe Biden. We'll work on it. There you go. Jeremy loves this posting. And then we will, and then it will end up on the Midas Touch Network when it is ready. So let's talk about a new order that just came out by Judge Mershon. 34 felony count conviction, Anthony Wright, of Donald Trump.
All that's left is the sentencing. The jury spoke, 12 jurors, 12-0 in New York. He got convicted 34 times. That's a lot.
And then he wanted to have it overturned because of the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity. So that was his leverage, right?
Well, right. I mean, at some point after he was convicted, at no time did he raise supremacy clause issues except over a couple of witnesses. During the trial, he never raised it. He never raised it in motion practice. He never raised any immunity or supremacy clause. But then he got this great ruling in July afterwards, before he was sentenced,
and he asked the judge to let briefing happen about it. The judge was about to enter this order on the 12th of November. But after the election, the other side and the Manhattan DA both joined together and said to the judge, well, there's been an election. Maybe that's changed some of the analysis.
And that pissed a lot of people off, didn't it?
Yeah, he was ready to... He already wrote this. This 41-page order that just came out, he wrote this already. He was ready to issue it on the 12th against Donald Trump. I am convinced. There's a copy of it. So... We had to wait. And the judge says, you wanna bring another motion? What's your other motion?
And there's a unique, there's a criminal procedure law in New York that allows for trying to overturn a conviction or throw out a conviction on kind of equity and justice grounds. But you gotta have these factors in order to do it. Judge says, all right, you, Trump, you submit your motion on equity grounds and you, Manhattan DA, you oppose it. And that's it, it's the only papers I want.
And then I'll get around to ruling on that. So that has been fully briefed. And I think that's a dead loser for Donald Trump. And what I said when we covered it on Legal AF is there's the immunity decision that's still out there. We're waiting on that. And now we don't have to wait any longer. So 41 pages came out. I won't bury the lead. Denied.
Effectively, the judge reminded Donald Trump and his lawyers that they already conceded that the conduct that's at the heart of the criminal prosecution is not presidential.
which takes it out of the entire kind of framework of the immunity decision from July, because that was all over official versus unofficial and what is out the outer boundaries and what's core constitutional and presidential function for immunity grants.
But the judge says, we don't have to get to any of that because you've already conceded in your motion practice that what you did before you were elected in 2016 in the conspiracy to bury the Stormy Daniels sex act.
I love that this all goes back to Stormy Daniels. It's kind of brilliant, isn't it? That she is at the center of this entire storyline.
Yes, and the election interference, his first round of election interference. And the judge says, since you've already conceded that, the only issue then for me is whether you waived the issue because you didn't raise it properly on sort of that procedural issue.
And even on the merits, whether the evidence that I let in from some of your White House-connected people after you got elected and some testimony after you were already in the White House, whether that impacted the jury or is harmless error. And did you get a chance to read it?
No.
All right, so let me... I don't want the audience to go, Popak's just talking over Anthony. No, no, I'm good, I'm good. I had a chance to read it, and I don't think Anthony did. So here's the ruling. The judge found that Donald Trump did not properly preserve many of his arguments. Particularly, he said it was not preserved as to Michael Cohen, The immunity issue, because he never raised it.
It was not preserved as to Madeline Westerhut, who was his executive assistant in the White House. And it was, those two were no, only whole picks that they find it was properly preserved. But the judge says, I'm going to just look beyond that. I'm going to act like you did preserve it. And now I'm going to rule on the merits. And the merits are that the evidence that came in is not immune.
It's not about your official conduct. It's about your private affairs, literally, your private acts, which are not covered by immunity. And even if that weren't the case, the judge said, this is what we call harmless error.
Given the volume and the mountains of evidence and testimony against Donald Trump, these little snippets from Michael Cohen about checks being written in the White House and Madeline Westerhood about scheduling meetings for Donald Trump and Hope Hicks about, we were really concerned about certain things during the campaign, it was not the reason that Donald Trump got convicted.
So immunity decision is in. Donald Trump has a way to appeal it. He can take it up to the two courts in New York, state courts. Doesn't like the rulings there. He can take it over to the United States Supreme Court. But we're still waiting on the issue of whether the second motion, I think now the second motion's dead, which is just throw it out because I won. I mean, it's effectively that.
Just throw out the convictions and all the jury's hard work because I won the election. That's not how that works. So once he clears that out, Here's the question for you, Anthony. Does, he's got time to sentence, even if he postpones the actual start of the sentence, he can actually sentence Donald Trump before the inauguration. Do you think he does?
Well, I think he should. Right. And this, I think, is the bone of contention that came when this delay was announced a few weeks ago, is that everybody thought, well, when is this guy going to get caught up with? Because the thing about Trump and MAGA Republicans... is that they're all pleading, you know, this is a witch hunt, this is a witch hunt.
But most people never have any connection with law enforcement. We're never arrested. We're never arraigned. We're never in court. We're just... That world, that kind of criminal world, is not something that most people are ever connected to. And yet Donald Trump, his whole life has been around this. Invariably, he's got away with things because he has paid people off.
He has enough money to get lawyers. And so, you know, he's basically been able to buy his way out of trouble for decades. But... That's why it's so frustrating for those of us who are law-abiding to see these kind of lifelong criminals who somehow, they're so slimy, they slip through the fingers of justice.
And I think that that's really the hardest part or the hardest lesson from this is that yet again, it feels like the white, male, rich, and powerful are getting away with And yet, you know, you go look at the number of young black men incarcerated for marijuana and it's it's just so unjust.
And, you know, I keep saying it and I keep defaulting back to this position that the United States really is a lawless country. And the only law, as I see it, or the only kind of rules, as I see it, are those who can afford expensive lawyers to fight cases for them.
This is why you and I are going to have a great new show. Yes, we are. Because we don't agree on everything.
Yeah.
But we do it in a respectful way that I think people are going to find really interesting. You and I are going to do a show come the first of the year, beginning of the year, called Global AF, where we're going to do a little pitch there. You and I have been talking about it for two years. Remember? Literally, it was two years ago.
And now is the time about Trump's impact on the rest of the world and the rest of the world's impact on Trump.
And how the rest of the world is clamoring to protect itself from a future Trump regime. Notice I never say the word administration, because that's intentional.
But we're a very short amount of time away from the inauguration. France's government looks like it could fall. Germany's government just fell. Canada's finance minister just dropped out because of a dispute with Trudeau about how to handle Donald Trump, right? Yeah.
uh and left out south korea that's right south korea is martial law didn't work so now they're gonna now they impeach the guy but this is the kind of things i think are important to kind of expand the reach of of midas touch and your work and my work and bring it to that next level so everybody we're not ready to announce a date and time for it yet but global af is is on its way but let's talk about um and i want to debate with you there
I'm going to have you come on Legal AF to talk about lawlessness. Yes. Yeah. I just don't completely agree with you.
It doesn't mean- Well, it's hard for you because A, you're an American, so you're institutionalized. B, you're a lawyer, so you have a vested interest in justice. And C, C, A. Because- But from my perspective, you know, I come from a country that is a lot less litigious than the United States. People do not sue each other. It just doesn't work like that.
And, you know, just to hear like states suing each other and weird stuff like that, it just makes no sense. We're all supposed to be on the same team.
Yeah. We'll save it for global AF. But when I was a global head of something, I had a fair amount of litigation that I supervised in the UK.
But it's like copyright and patent law.
Yeah, yeah. It's financial services stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And financial services is all that really comes out of the UK and weapons of mass destruction. But that's about it. Yeah.
Well, at least your country is productive. And what's not productive, look at this segue, is going to be the 119th Congress. I thought the 118th Congress was a do-nothing Congress. Wait till you see what's on the menu for the 119th. Mike Johnson... He thought, well, all right, I got my four or five, whatever it was, as we're waiting invariably for California to finally get it.
I don't know why it takes so long for them to count votes.
San Diego was still going a couple of days ago.
The dust finally settled, and it looked to be three or four seat majority. And then Donald Trump decided to put Elise Stefanik, in as un ambassador and she's and the governor new york is is a democrat so there goes so now you had a three seat lead or so elise stefanik is gone then he decided to put
me get my list right uh uh who else there's two more that he put in he put in uh mike waltz as national security advisor and uh and lori chavez as labor so there went there went the lead and now you've got victoria spartz who i want you to talk about because you seem to know a lot about a republican from an indiana congressional district who had the weirdest if jeremy has it let's put it up has the weirdest social media post i've ever seen
I am not, I'm going to stay a registered Republican, but I'm not going to caucus with the Republicans, meaning she's not going to vote with them until I see that Republican leadership in Congress is governing. Well, good luck because the 118th didn't govern. They did a lot of investigations. They did a lot of hearings.
I learned a lot about, you know, Hunter Biden's, you know, pictures and laptops. But then put it back up for a minute, Jeremy, so I can read it. I do need to be involved in circuses. I do not need to be involved in circuses.
I'd rather spend my time helping DOGE, that's Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, and Representative Thomas Massey to save our republic, as was mandated by the American people. So weird. That's a Ron Filipkowski of our Midas Touch Network. Because here's what it means, just to unpack that.
If she's not gonna go on committees, which is where all the hard work comes from, it's on committees, voting things out of committee until then it gets to the floor, it shapes our laws. So if you're not gonna be on committees, like Marjorie Taylor Greene wasn't either for a lot of time there, and you're not gonna caucus with the Republicans, meaning they can't count on your vote, then effectively,
She is the mansion and cinema for the Republicans because that just for me means that Hakeem Jeffries is effectively the Speaker of the House because they're not going to get anything big passed in the House without the Democrats. And how many times did Democrats bail out Speaker Johnson and the Republicans in the last year alone? Many times. Yeah.
Well, he knows that he needs them. And so it's hard for Speaker Johnson because he tries to play the tough guy, but he ain't the tough guy, as we know. He's kind of an impish, wimpish, little rumple stilt skin of a character. And who has his son check out his social media, apparently, to make sure he's not looking at any adult sites. One of the weirdest stories I ever read.
But that aside, he is having to kind of play that fine line now. You know, I am of the opinion because specifically, and if we just look at that social media post again, there is so much contradiction in there because at the top she's talking about not wanting to sit on committees or participate in the caucus. But then in the second breath, she's saying, I want to help Doge and Thomas Massey.
it's just Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk who are going to just be arguing with each other. I have never seen those two men in the same room. I don't even think they know each other. I don't know if you've noticed. If you do a Google search on those two guys, there isn't a single photo of those two men together. So, you know, they're both egomaniacs. They're going to kill each other.
So undoubtedly, Doge is either going to fall apart or only one of them will survive. And they're claiming that they want to pull $2 trillion out of the, or $3 trillion out of the national spend.
That's going to mean- But when you hear that, by the way, when you hear that, that's your entitlements. That's Social Security, food stamps, Medicare, Medicaid, because that's what it is.
And it's also the firing of so many people who work for the federal government. And so a huge number of people are going to be out of work. So that, again, is a disaster. And they don't care. I mean, look, Elon Musk has a history of firing people. Just look at Twitter becoming X and him having no emotional skin in the game and just firing everybody.
So I'm very much of the opinion that all of that is going to end in disaster. But what's interesting with this individual, this character... She, who we shall name Victoria Sparks, she, I mean, she wasn't even going to run. She ran and then she won. This is in Indiana. And so now she kind of feels like she has a little bit of leverage.
I think she might be one of these egomaniacs who's just trying to play for a little publicity. I mean, cinema and mansion were very much like that.
They thought it was all about them. Tell me about the Ukraine connection, which I didn't know she was Ukrainian. I didn't know she was against the aid to Ukraine, therefore pro-Russia.
Well, it's hard to know, isn't it? Because you don't know how she has been whipped. This is a British phrase. I hope you use that in American politics. But ultimately, her personal opinion on Ukraine... I mean, it's the same as George Stephanopoulos. We don't know what he thinks, but clearly he's been required to make a decision. And it's the same with her.
Maybe she was made to kind of vote in that direction. But her personal opinion, I guess, I would think... If she is a Republican, and as we know, most Republicans now tend to be kind of far right, MAGA Republicans, gone are the days of your grandfather's conservative party. And so I'm just of the opinion that she's just rolling with the team on that one.
But maybe she felt like she wanted to claw something back for herself. There's two types of people that go into public office. There's people who genuinely want to make a difference. And then there's the egomaniacs hungry for power. So we don't know this person well enough to know which category she falls into. But I worry with people like Cinema and Mansion...
two very, very complex and dangerous individuals. Say one thing, do another. Then the next day, they've relocated their political position completely. They're slippery. They're snakes. And there's always plenty of them in American politics.
Well, the good news is that I believe that Donald Trump and those that are coming into power with him have underestimated the amount of levers that need to be pulled in order to run a government. And he only has, I know it seems like an interminable period, but he only has four years. It's actually less than that if we crush him at the midterms. And I believe we will.
I don't believe, and you've heard me say this before, I don't believe we just witnessed the magnification of the United States and it just all went red. It had to do with the economy. It had to do with people not being enthusiastic enough to come to the polls. And it had to do with some social issues where our narrative and our brand took a hit.
But that can easily be resolved if the Democratic Party and fair-minded people focus on it. So the good news is, They're never going to be able to rid the government of all the civil servants and all the people that actually operate the government in the amount of time they have on the clock. MAGA Congress is going to be so tied up with their almost nonexistent majority.
where they're going to have to rely heavily on Hakeem Jeffries and the Democrats, who are disciplined and taught that by Nancy Pelosi. By the way, poor Nancy Pelosi slipped down some stairs in Luxembourg, had to get a hip replacement.
But at least she got her hip replaced in Europe and not in America. That's the advantage to that.
She's now a health...
She's a health tourist.
This is going to be a good show for you and me, this Global AF. I see it already.
I know. I'd much rather have my hip fixed in Luxembourg than in the United States.
I would just say that. But poor Nancy. And then her husband gets his head hammered. I know. It's been a bad couple of years. But she's taught the Democrats and Hakeem Jeffries everything.
how to keep their party together in opposition she's been in opposition before she's still speaker emeritus she's going to help um believe me nobody has sharper elbows and knows how to uh run that uh halls of congress better than her donald trump knows that and the reason he's so rely he's going to be so reliant this is a good thing for the legal side of the show.
He's gonna be so reliant on executive orders, but executive orders are the weakest of power for a president. They're easy to write and they're easy to sign, but they're hard to defend.
because you have to make sure that you haven't crossed over and breached the separation of powers, that it aligns with a law that's already on the books by Congress, that it's within your wheelhouse of a constitutional power, and Donald Trump screwed it up the first time around, and he's gonna screw it up again, which gives us an avenue of attack, an angle of attack, to take these executive orders into Democratic-controlled federal judges and federal circuits,
yes it all times out at the united states supreme court but we can tie him four years is not a lot we can tie his policies and him up in knots over the first two years as we come into the midterms crush him at the midterms and make him as as quickly lame duck as possible and then it then the third year of his administration will be the mad scramble between jd vance and
And Nikki Haley and people we haven't even thought about and Ron DeSantis and everybody else and Joni Ernst to try to get the mantle and run against whoever the Democrats are. And we have a very strong bench, a very young, nice bench of 50 and early 60-year-olds who are ready to run, including Kamala Harris, should she try again.
Yeah. But another example of that is Trump's threats about mass deportation, where he was talking about wanting to deport, what was the number, 13 million or something like that? Yes. To do that would take at least a decade and hundreds of billions of dollars. And he ain't going to be spending that much money on deportation. Also, it would involve the military.
You just couldn't do it with the kind of ICE enforcement that you have now. So a little bit like he's kind of threats to journalists. I think the threats about deportation are just that. They are threats.
They are designed to scare people, but they were also designed to make people who are a little bit racist and xenophobic vote for him by thinking, yeah, let's get rid of anybody who doesn't look like me. And so that's kind of worked for him. But again, he's just not going to be able to do it. And then the other thing I would say, and there's so many avenues to talk about here, but-
I'm not convinced that Donald Trump wants to do the work. He, to me, is checked out. He wanted to get over the finish line so that he could get out of these legal cases. That really was all he wanted to do. Agreed with you. He doesn't want to work. And so he's going to be playing an awful lot of golf. And the Democrats are not going to be playing golf.
They're going to be very, very focused on either fighting in Congress or fighting in court. And so I think that he's going to end up delegating to people who are unsavory. And I worry about some of the people that he will will delegate to because they might have much more extreme or they do have more extreme views. I mean, he doesn't really have any views.
Remember, he'll just say whatever is necessary to whichever audience is facing him. But the people around him, Stephen Miller, who's now the president. sidekick for policy.
I mean, I saw him on- But Trump doesn't like to be shown up either. He doesn't like to be- Well, that's why J.D.
Vance is missing in action, right? It's like, that guy's gone. Elon Musk now is the acting vice president-elect, it seems. So that's going to be very interesting, is how much fight he has. Because even this press conference he gave last night, this kind of impromptu thing at Mar-a-Lago, He was moving slow. You know, he is knackered. And I get, as well as bonkers, two great words.
And I get the feeling that he is going to do as little as possible just to maintain. He likes to pretend he's like an actor, right? He's like a TV actor playing the president. He just wants to play that president role again and have people suck up to him. And that's why it's so frustrating that the media is already collapsing in on itself to please him.
And those in favor of democracy and the lawyers around them, we had a dress rehearsal for four years in 2016 to 2020. Yeah. And we know what to do. Now, the federal courts are a little bit harder these days because, you know, Donald Trump got a lot of MAGA right-wing federalists, especially in certain places.
But Biden's got a whole bunch of fresh ones in there, too.
Biden's got a whole bunch of fresh ones. There's some that are unretiring. We'll talk about that after we come back from a break. I love that. There's three judges who basically said, I'm 70. I thought I was leaving. But now that you're screwing around with my appointment for my replacement, I'm going to stay. And it's driving MAGA nuts. You know what else drives MAGA nuts?
The Midas Touch Network. They love attacking us. They love, you know, you get a lot of comments on Substack from Ben when he writes these great Midas Plus things. By the way, numbers of ways, people always ask me, and it's in the chat too, how do we support you guys, you people? How do we support the network? How do we keep it up and running? There's a number of ways.
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I have Uncovered on Wednesday with my friend, Ron Filipkowski, and on Sunday, the weekend show, where we do deep dive conversations with some of the great brains around the world. And that's always fascinating.
How did I get on that? How did I get on that show? You've been on a couple of times.
I always just make space for you when there's a cancellation.
Yeah, that's true. Then we've got Legal AF in various versions. We've got the Wednesday edition I do with Karen Freedman-Ignifilo. Karen Freedman Ignifilo in the news for very good reason. She's defending Luigi Mangione, the person who's been accused of killing the UnitedHealthcare CEO. I'm hoping she'll do midweek with me this week.
I think she's going to, and I think we're going to be able to talk about parts of it. So tune into Legal AF Midweek for Karen Freedman Ignifilo, fresh off the... the press clamoring for more KFA. We got her exclusively on the Midas Touch Network. On Saturdays, I do Legal AF with Ben Mysalis, who I co-founded the show with.
We got a Legal AF YouTube channel called Legal AF MTN for Midas Touch Network. And then I'm curating a lot of stuff over there, six or seven videos a day and some new shows that we're doing. So you can go over there, help us build that pro-democracy channel. We've got, Midas has a sub stack, which
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Can I plug my Substack? Is it a good time?
Of course. I just started it.
You can plug whatever you like. Well, I just started, so it's...
pretty small right now so it needs a little little bit of growth but yeah the Anthony Davis on on Substack and I'm writing like personal thoughts so not stuff that necessarily is connected to five minute news or the other work that I do and I wrote I wrote a blog last night about these drones in New Jersey and I kind of predicted what I thought is actually happening down there and then today I heard that two idiots got arrested and I was like I think I might have got that story right for a change because I did not predict the election correctly
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Now, for all I know, that moink ad read by Ben may have caught the eye of the Biden administration and led to the interview. I'm just spitballing here. I'm spitballing. Yeah.
Hopefully Ben showed up with like half a dozen steaks in his backpack.
Moink. All right. So we're back on the Midas Touch podcast. People might think, what happened? Popak and Davis hijacked the show. We might try it again, knock them out, come in and run the show for a little bit. We're having fun here, though. So, look, let's get international, you and me. Just leave it at that. Let's get international. Let's talk about Alexander Smirnoff.
And as an FBI informant, we did a lot of coverage on it, I might have said. You might have also. Yeah. About his testimony, because it was like bombshell testimony. Could you imagine a guy coming out and saying to the FBI and to a special prosecutor that was prosecuting Hunter Biden at the time, I've got news for you. Hunter and Joe took a $5 million bribe. I think it was a piece. Right?
And a payoff from Burisma. And it's part of the corruption scandal. And Dan Weiss, the special prosecutor, was like, go on. And then James Comer and Jim Jordan and the MAGA oversight and Judiciary Committee. They got so excited about it. Oh, they got so, it was like a wet dream. They finally found it, the $5 million bribe scandal. Now, look, let me just tell you why. I don't know.
I don't mean our audience. I mean others. When did they suspend critical thinking? Joe Biden. You can say a lot about Joe Biden. OK, you can have your own respectful criticism of Joe Biden and his career in the 80s, in the 90s, things that he was responsible for. You know, we could talk about Clarence Thomas. We can talk about busing. Bussing, we can talk about three strikes and you're out.
We can talk about a lot of things if you want to be critical of Joe Biden and his evolution as a politician. But one thing you have to give the guy credit for, he's been in the public eye for 50 years. He was the youngest senator we ever had. He was the oldest president we ever had and everything in between.
The media has had the ability to x-ray and acid test, pressure wash Joe Biden for 50 years, and they've come up with nothing in terms of corruption because he's not corrupt. So all of a sudden, because MAGA's in Congress, Joe Biden is now, you know, a mobster taking $5 million bribes. Come on.
It's so offensive. That phrase Biden crime family is so offensive because it's all projection coming from the Trump crime family. And, you know, the other thing that people fail to remember is that Joe Biden has experienced so much loss and grief in his life. And, you know, that changes people. Not that he necessarily needed changing, but it is the measure of the man.
I mean, the fact that he went straight back to work and kind of pushed through the grief of losing his wife and daughter in this car accident and then losing his son years later. I mean, and that also contributes to Hunter Biden's addiction. Hunter Biden's first memory of Beau Biden was waking up in a hospital bed next to him when they were kids after the car accident.
Yeah, they were in the car crash. They were in the car crash. And they lost their sister and they lost their mom. I mean, it's unprecedented. And to come back from that, you know, they might have a famous name now, but they are still only human.
Joe Biden almost did not take the seat because that car accident happened around Christmas time.
Yeah.
And he was going to be sworn in for that January three, four date as a new senator, as a young senator. And he thought about not doing it because just several weeks before he lost his wife and one of his children and had a scramble to create a support system while he was still obviously grieving. And Joe Biden should be on Mount Rushmore as a civil servant, right?
Just for everything that he's done. Vice president to the first African-American president and a strong partner and supporter of Barack Obama. And someone who's pivoted.
As well, you mentioned the evolution. I mean, how many other politicians can you count that have pivoted and evolved in a way that Joe Biden has, considering that he was born like 200 years ago when the world was very different?
I mean, the fact that you even mentioned busing where Kamala Harris had to take him on in the debate. Right. Right. Right. About about I was that little girl, Joe. I was like, wow, it was so far. He was way back then. But but my point is, it just chaps my backside to hear MAGA just try to destroy Joe Biden.
Force him not to run for reelection, effectively, along with the media complicity, the complicity of the media. And then we're going to talk about Alexander Smirnoff, who just pled guilty because he's a phony informant who lied in order to curry favor with the FBI. Dan Weiss, the prosecutor, believed it for a while, the Hunter Biden prosecutor. And then, of course, MAGA went crazy with it.
And they spent so much time with public hearings over it. And money as well, the cost of those hearings. Where is the apology? Where is the apology to Joe Biden?
You can forget that. You can forget that. But the other thing that Smirnov did, which I thought was very interesting, is he claimed the Russians probably had recordings of Hunter Biden because a hotel in the Ukraine capital where he'd stayed was wired and under their control.
And he said that that information had been passed along to him by four high level Russian officials, except Hunter Biden had never traveled to Ukraine. it so there's there was this whole kind of which was easily easily easily uh easily yeah right so i i but i i i get this feeling that whenever the mega republicans
get a little morsel of potential evidence or something, because their entire remit is to own the libs. The detail is irrelevant, as long as you own the libs. And that's what they use this guy for. So you're saying libs, like liberals, right? The libs, liberals, yes.
So make sure people heard it right, not libs. Not Liv Tyler. Or libs. Or libs even, yeah. Yeah, the libs of the libs. Well, listen, I think this is... I remember two years ago, I think well on holiday, you know, when I'm just taking a stroll. And I called you from wherever I was at. I was out of the country somewhere with my wife. And I said, hey, Anthony.
I was like, what's he phoning me for?
Right, right, right. Or I texted you first. I said, I got an idea. And I think, you know, I'd love to do it with you. And at the time, it wasn't like the right time, this Global AF. What now we're referring to, working title, Global AF. I think it'll be the title.
And we were very focused as a network on – not insular, just focused on things that were happening here and with Trump and with the resistance and all, and then pivoting to helping to try to get Kamala elected with providing good information and pure information. But now – the global impact of Donald Trump's return to power. And we're watching it. I mean, it's already in real time.
It's not even like we have to hypothesize. And he's not even the president yet. He's not even the president yet. And Canada is in turmoil. Germany is in turmoil. France is in turmoil. And he's gone to war with Mexico and Canada over trade. Absolutely. While he invites the Chinese president to come to his inauguration. To the inauguration.
I mean, I'm surprised that Putin's not already on the invite list. This is what we're going to discover in the coming weeks and months. And, you know, there was some kind of fancy MAGA Republican celebratory event for the election in New York last night. And Steve Bannon was talking about wanting Donald Trump to run again in 2028 and actually saying it seriously.
Oh, this was the young Republicans dinner.
Yeah. He said Mike Davis, the viceroy, said, since it doesn't actually say consecutive, that maybe we do it again in 28. And Trump has alluded exactly the same thing. And I actually just want to quote Steve Bannon from that thing last night, because this is these very scary words. He said, we want retribution and we're going to get retribution. You have to. It's not personal. It's not personal.
He said, they need to learn what populist nationalist power is on the receiving end. I need investigations, trials, and then incarceration. And I'm just talking about the media, he said. Did he say Sig Heil after that and everybody saluted? He said everything but that. Listen to this next one. We want all your emails, all your text messages, everything you did.
You colluded in a conspiracy with Merrick Garland, Nancy Pelosi, Lisa Monaco, and Jack Smith. And literally, like, he's laying out this playbook, this kind of Nazi playbook. It's like the Stasi showing up at your door and rounding you up. Right, or Stalin. Or Stalin. Or Stalin. Right. And he's saying this stuff out loud, and he is representing Donald Trump and the Trump regime.
And we would be fools to not take it seriously. The media thought it was all a bit of a joke, but it isn't.
Well, that's what you and I and the Midas Touch and the brothers and those on this network are going to have to do. We got our work cut out for us over the next two years to four years because we're going to have to shine a light on this and we're going to have to call it out. And then the reason that I created with Ben and the brothers Legal AF, the YouTube channel,
a month or so before the election was not to help Kamala win. It was what if she doesn't? And what does the legal landscape look like in a potential Trump presidency where we're going to be lurching from one constitutional crisis to another, one abuse of power, daily abuse of power, meaning we're going to have to run into the courts.
That's why on Legal AF, the YouTube channel, I have court accountability action over there with me And they're amazing. They're like a think tank slash investigative organization that looks at corruption at the federal court level up to the United States Supreme Court. And they do some amazing work. And this is why we're here together, not to scare the shit out of each other.
I mean, we have an action. It's a call to action, too. We have a call to action.
Yeah, it's a calling, for sure, because the media is not going to call it out. And everything that he announced, I mean, today he announced like a $100 billion investment.
SoftBank?
Right. I mean... The media will just repeat that story. They'll just repeat what he wants them to say like a press release. But we don't do that. We're like, what's behind this? Because Trump doesn't announce anything unless it benefits him and his wealthy...
Well, it was right on cue. It was orchestrated, right? Two days before at his social media post, he put America up for sale. I'm sure you saw it. Anybody that wants to invest overseas $1 billion in America, we will speed through your approvals, including environmental.
Environmental, yeah.
He threw that in there. And two days later, Softback was like, we'll put $100 billion in. Now, what happened the last time they put money in? Yeah.
Well, I was going to say, did you see RFK's face standing behind him, who, of course, is an environmental lawyer by trade, listening to this thing about, you know, circumnavigating the regulations on the environment?
Trump just has a problem with the environment because I think in Scotland they put a wind turbine near his golf course and he hated it and he tried to get it removed and they couldn't. They wouldn't. So for that reason, the entire climate change kind of scenario has become a hoax to him because of that turbine in his garden.
Well, for those that are tuning in late, no, the Midas Touch podcast has not been canceled by the brothers. They are busy doing God's work, interviewing and finishing an interview with President Joe Biden. The whole team was there. Ben conducted it. You guys will be seeing it. It'll be
hot off the presses soon enough here on the Midas Touch and they asked Anthony and I to step in and we said absolutely we've never done we've done we've done each other's shows but we've never done a show together trying to hold up the the lantern here hold up the torch for the for the brothers we're so pleased that we were able to do that for them and hopefully you guys found this as interesting as you would if the three brothers were on or at least we're at that level
And we got to announce that Anthony and I are going to be doing more things together come the new year in a new show we're calling Global AF, where we're going to, you know, he's a Brit and I'm not. I'm an American. And we're going to talk about global perspective. I had a global job at a Wall Street firm and know a little bit about the rest of the world.
And Anthony, of course, has lived a life and has been a broadcaster and a commentator on other non-American media throughout his career.
But I've also traveled, and I think this is something that's really important, is that, you know, there is no substitute. You could read about it online as much as you like, but there is no substitute for being there. And the thing about, I felt blessed growing up in England, was that, you know, all these places that we'd read about are only a couple of hours away, a cheap flight away.
And so I've been lucky to have traveled extensively around Europe and to places where systems of governance and of democracy are completely different to the system that you have enjoyed here in the United States. So as American democracy falls, we're going to shed a light on the way that other democracies are successful. And I think that's going to be very interesting.
And that's where you and I will debate because I'm not ready to throw in the towel on the American democracy just yet. Good man. Thank you. So you've joined the Midas Touch podcast, normally with Ben, Brett, and Jordy, Michael Popock, and Anthony Davis sitting in for this particular episode. Thank you to everyone in the audience that supports all of our shows.
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And I've got Legal AF on Wednesdays and Saturdays and a new show called Popak Live by myself on Tuesday nights at 8 p.m. right here on the Midas Touch Network. And shout-out to all our sponsors and to the Midas Mighty.
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