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Episode 615: The Montauk Project Part I - The Truth Behind The Truth Behind The Lies

Fri, 11 Apr 2025

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This week the boys break out the tin foil hats and venture deep into the world of Conspiracy Theory with a tale that connects the dots between WWII, The Philadelphia Experiment, Deep Underground Military Bases, Alien Experimentation, Militarized Psychics, Time Travel, Nazi Gold... and that’s just the beginning of The Montauk Project. For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.

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Chapter 1: What is the Montauk Project and how is it connected to other conspiracy theories?

160.091 - 170.766 Marcus Parks

That's exactly why you're so tired. And, of course, we have with us the open-minded Ed Larson. Very open-minded this week. I'm here to learn. You know, I'm going to ask some questions. Sure.

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170.806 - 178.99 Henry Zebrowski

But I am going to... Try to accept the answers. All we ask is that you try. That's all we ask. Very good.

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179.31 - 197.856 Marcus Parks

This is an important chapter in conspiracy theory history. We're talking about the Montauk Project today. This is a very important chapter. This is something that we've been wanting to cover for a very, very long time. We weren't quite ready yet, but I think now we finally got the chops to do it. We got the juice for it. Oh yeah, this is the bullshit noise that is technically, that strings...

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198.376 - 204.34 Henry Zebrowski

The Philadelphia Experiment, MKUltra, all of it together in one big old fun conspiracy soup.

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204.54 - 220.092 Marcus Parks

Yeah, I mean, at its core, the Montauk Project is what happens when you take a handful of the great conspiracy theories of the 20th century, from MKUltra to alien collaborations with America to secret government time travel experiments, and you put them all into one building in Long Island.

220.916 - 232.562 Marcus Parks

Now, some of you may already know that the story of the Montauk Project was very loosely adapted into the Netflix show Stranger Things. In fact, the original pitch for Stranger Things was a found footage project called Montauk.

233.002 - 249.69 Marcus Parks

But while Stranger Things is admittedly a delightful show and quite lighthearted, the actual story of the Montauk Project, or at least the story that has been presented to the world, is far darker and far more unbelievable, although you will notice similarities here and there.

250.33 - 259.31 Marcus Parks

As Henry put it to me, the Montauk Project is, in essence, the story of alien tech stolen by the Nazis to create a nation of time-traveling boys.

262.349 - 264.191 Henry Zebrowski

And that's what we all are looking for.

Chapter 2: Who was Wilhelm Reich and what role did his theories play in these projects?

988.864 - 991.586 Unknown Speaker 2

Mouse thinking, not giant thinking.

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991.946 - 992.646 Marcus Parks

Mouse thinking?

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992.686 - 993.667 Unknown Speaker 2

That's a new one.

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993.687 - 995.008 Marcus Parks

That's a new one for me.

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995.248 - 997.029 Henry Zebrowski

Baby thinking, baby mouse thinking.

998.51 - 1023.457 Marcus Parks

Small fries here. As do I. Instead, Fort Hero, prior to being the site of the Montauk Project, was also where some of the most infamous alleged military experiments in history took place, like the Phoenix Project and the Philadelphia Experiment. So before we get into the Montauk Project proper, let's cover the operations that supposedly led to the project's foundings.

1023.937 - 1030.802 Marcus Parks

Operations that laid the groundwork for the secret government time travel mind control experiments that came to define the conspiracies.

1030.862 - 1051.753 Henry Zebrowski

Yeah, man, because that's the thing. What they discover what's awesome about all of this shit, right, is that they all failed their way to something dumber. Yeah. Every single project was supposed to do one thing and then it just did something else. And then they just kept giving them money to fuck up because it seems like he was government on some level in this version of reality or all like.

1053.837 - 1054.477 Henry Zebrowski

Make it invisible.

Chapter 3: What were Project Phoenix and the Philadelphia Experiment?

1515.859 - 1517.101 Ben Kissel

Did you say do you think? No.

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1520.494 - 1529.04 Marcus Parks

Do you think that he was inspired by Vril Energy at all? Vril Energy? I don't think so, because Vril Energy was very much more of a Nazi thing.

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1529.66 - 1533.162 Henry Zebrowski

I'm just saying, I wonder if he got any of that reading, too. He may have.

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1533.742 - 1534.503 Marcus Parks

It's quite possible.

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1534.523 - 1538.585 Henry Zebrowski

The idea of sloshing around energies was a big thing inside of Germany.

1538.725 - 1549.252 Marcus Parks

Yeah, I think he may have had some influence, but he wanted to take it his own direction, and he was very horny. Super horny. There's nothing horny about Vril Energy.

1549.412 - 1552.779 Henry Zebrowski

No, it's all about beating other races at the Olympics.

1555.643 - 1573.475 Marcus Parks

Now, all this sounds pretty goofy, and it is. But Wilhelm Reich took it extremely seriously. And once he got infected by the American entrepreneurial spirit, his experiments around Oregon energy became quite intense, even though he didn't have a license to practice medicine in the United States.

1573.515 - 1586.803 Henry Zebrowski

That's a real fucking American. He showed up, he got rid of that European fucking garbage, and understood it is better sometimes to ask for forgiveness rather than ask for permission. I'm a doctor.

Chapter 4: How did the Montauk Project allegedly use Nazi gold to fund its operations?

2156.141 - 2160.384 Marcus Parks

And broadcast is going to be a very important thing for the Montauk Project.

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2160.504 - 2164.946 Henry Zebrowski

Oh, yes. It is the most radar-based thing possible.

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2165.286 - 2185.517 Marcus Parks

The theory goes that Project Phoenix was partly about controlling the weather using Reichsorgon technology. Now, according to our whistleblowers, Reich's technology actually worked, but the government abandoned the project because it would open them up to lawsuits if their ability to control the weather was made public. Who's going to fucking sue them? Is the weather going to sue them?

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2185.537 - 2192.021 Marcus Parks

No, people whose buildings are destroyed by thunderstorms that were possibly, you know, created by the government.

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2192.061 - 2197.724 Henry Zebrowski

When has the government fucking cared about that ever once?

2197.944 - 2198.384 Marcus Parks

They really don't.

2198.604 - 2204.152 Henry Zebrowski

They don't give a shit about that. They if they wanted to control the weather, they definitely would.

2204.352 - 2204.632 Unknown Speaker 1

Yes.

2204.833 - 2227.388 Henry Zebrowski

And it wouldn't be this bad. No, it would be. Well, you know, they did talk about that. We might actually, though, have an earthquake weapon. There is some talk that we might have an earthquake weapon, but it's very different. It literally has to be like drilled into the ground. It's like a whole thing. It's Kwame from Captain Planet. Yes. Was that the one? No, he's Hart.

Chapter 5: What is the story behind the alien treaties and their connection to the Montauk Project?

2239.309 - 2239.749 Henry Zebrowski

Richard?

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2241.471 - 2244.594 Marcus Parks

Richard, yeah. Richard Motti. Motti.

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2244.634 - 2268.444 Henry Zebrowski

He was the dumb one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Guess what? Hart didn't do jack shit, Motti. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, am I totally crazy? I thought there was some truth to cloudbusting. Yeah, maybe. There's cloud seeding. Yeah. You know, they do that with kind of when, in all of the weird chemtrail conspiracy theories, there's a lot of weather manipulation in that too. We do have, we can make rain.

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2268.544 - 2272.085 Henry Zebrowski

We can make rain. We could do, but I feel like it's very- I don't know if we can though.

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2272.165 - 2274.286 Ben Kissel

Yes, we can cloud seed. Why not do it over Los Angeles then?

2274.306 - 2278.728 Henry Zebrowski

Because I think it's extremely unpredictable and it fucks with weather patterns and I think that's why they don't do it.

2278.909 - 2280.429 Marcus Parks

I think it's also really expensive as well.

2280.829 - 2284.691 Henry Zebrowski

I imagine. I imagine also it might like poison us over time.

2284.771 - 2285.091 Marcus Parks

Maybe.

Chapter 6: Who were the Montauk Boys and what was their significance?

3184.633 - 3186.976 Marcus Parks

How do you think we got into the air after Kitty Hawk, man?

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3187.396 - 3191.097 Ben Kissel

Because of the breeze in North Carolina.

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3191.357 - 3202.321 Marcus Parks

Nah, man. I'm talking about the big fucking jumps. These big jumps. Because everyone says, oh, isn't humanity so fucking incredible that we went from Kenny Hawk to the moon in 60 years?

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3202.861 - 3211.804 Unknown Speaker 5

Oh, did we do that? Or did we trade our souls to the aliens for that technology? Marcus gets it. I mean, it's just gas, right?

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3211.844 - 3212.304 Unknown Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah.

3212.344 - 3215.045 Unknown Speaker 7

We just set things on fire. It was mostly just science. Physics.

3216.965 - 3224.527 Henry Zebrowski

No, but this is a part. In the 1940s, when it was the Gaeta Treaty, that was like we're talking about with Eisenhower. It's called the Gaeta Treaty.

3224.607 - 3227.628 Marcus Parks

Okay. And it's actually with Eisenhower, that's the 50s.

3227.708 - 3234.35 Henry Zebrowski

Well, yeah, I was one of them. One of these fucking pieces of shit. Just keep it a timeline. They knew about 9-11. They said nothing.

Chapter 7: What is stickball and why is it mentioned in relation to the Montauk Boys?

3335.802 - 3344.427 Henry Zebrowski

Oh, you know, it should have been two kids with a stickball, like a whole get up, a guy flipping a coin. That's what these are. It's little boys that are. It's the 1970s.

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3344.447 - 3347.489 Marcus Parks

There were kids in Long Island playing stickball in the 1970s.

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3347.509 - 3349.711 Henry Zebrowski

I played stickball. Do you know what stickball is?

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3349.731 - 3351.252 Marcus Parks

Yeah. What is stickball?

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3351.272 - 3354.494 Henry Zebrowski

It's baseball with a broom handle. Yeah, I played it in Queens as a little kid.

3354.574 - 3355.534 Marcus Parks

It's just baseball.

3355.714 - 3369.522 Henry Zebrowski

It's a very New York thing. It's a very New York thing. But you can't go to the field. You know, you got to play it in the street. Yeah, stickball. You play it in the street. I played it with a broomstick. That's fine. Yeah. I was, like, a little boy one time. I was, like, really out there.

3369.542 - 3371.383 Marcus Parks

A little boy in Queens playing stickball?

3371.443 - 3375.804 Henry Zebrowski

Hey, oh, ow, oh. Hey, oh, ow, yo. Look at that guy. Daniel Robinson.

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