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President Trump addressed the Congress last night. You heard that. Uganda. But let's check in on Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth. He tweeted from the car on his way to the address.

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Noelle King here with Haley Britsky. Haley is CNN's Pentagon reporter and producer, and she's been following the DOD's plan to separate transgender service members from the military. Haley, what does this new Pentagon policy say exactly?

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How is this new policy going to affect you? What does it mean for your career?

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The Department of Defense is offering some terms for people who voluntarily leave the military in 30 days. We learned that in the first half of the show. Would you ever volunteer to go?

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I'm hearing you say you wanted to and you plan to stay in the military until retirement.

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The Department of Defense has said that being trans is contrary to the, and here I'm going to quote Sam, high standards for service member readiness, lethality, cohesion, honesty, humility, uniformity, and integrity. You've been in the service since 2015. You know what this is driving at here. Let me ask you how you respond to that statement.

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He tweeted again a thank you after Trump mentioned him.

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Listener, did you know that every branch of the U.S. military has a creed? It must be memorized and sometimes quickly recalled. Petty Officer Second Class Sam Rodriguez can recite it without a hitch.

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Then he went on Fox News this a.m. to discuss enlistment numbers.

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President Trump and Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of Defense, have they come out and said why they think people who are trans are unfit to serve their country?

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So the military is using the word separation, which is the word that it generally uses in cases like this. But it means people are losing their jobs. For people who are losing their jobs and didn't expect to lose their jobs, what are they receiving?

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Neither Hegseth nor the president mentioned their plan to force transgender service members out of the military. Today on Explained, we're going to do that.

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We're assuming there will be legal challenges and we're in an environment where it's hard to tell what a legal challenge might lead to. But during President Trump's first term, as I recall, there were legal challenges to some of what he tried in the Pentagon.

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Can you take us back and tell us, as we start to see lawsuits and look for lawsuits, what we might be looking at here?

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That was Haley Britsky. She covers the Pentagon for CNN. Coming up, so you've been serving honorably, and now you're out. We're going to hear what that's like.

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Today Explained is back. So this is kind of a universal experience. Your job changes a policy that affects you, and it is terrible because change is very hard. For most of us, this doesn't happen all that often. But Navy Petty Officer Sam Rodriguez's military service has been upended again and again and again by policy changes. Sam joined the Navy in 2015.

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In 2016, a ban on transgender service members was lifted. Then Donald Trump was elected. And in 2017, Trump banned transgender service members. In 2020, Joe Biden was elected. Biden reversed the ban. And then in 2024, President Trump was elected. And his DOD is now firing trans service members.

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New York City Mayor Eric Adams has always been an odd guy. As a state senator, he made a video explaining how to search your kid's room for contraband.

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We called Barb because a relatively tiny number of people have held these jobs. And we wanted to know what she makes of the DOJ pressuring New York prosecutors to drop their case against Eric Adams.

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Walk us through who gave the prosecutors in New York their marching orders and what exactly those orders said.

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After the resignations, I heard people ask whether resigning is the best move, because if everybody resigns, then eventually somebody does give in and do it. And the people who are ethical, who have, you know, backbones, they're not there anymore. What do you think about that tension?

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Katie Honan is a senior reporter at the nonprofit news site The City. Katie also hosts the FAQ NYC podcast. Yesterday, minutes before Katie dashed into a press conference with Eric Adams, we reached her in the rotunda of City Hall to ask her about the life and times of New York's mayor.

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And I think that puts us in a worse place. What do you think this scandal tells us about the Justice Department in the second Trump administration?

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How do we get out of this? Do you think that Congress is going to do anything here?

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The issue, of course, in New York is the quid pro quo. Donald Trump wants something from Eric Adams and Eric Adams wanted something from Donald Trump. But the vast majority of mayors in the United States and governors in the United States and other people in the United States who Donald Trump might want something from are not under indictment. Right.

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So is this situation in New York City just a one off or do you think it's part of a playbook?

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Barbara McQuaid, UMich Law School, former U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan. Amanda Llewellyn and Devin Schwartz produced today's show. Jolie Myers edited. Laura Bullard checked the facts. And Patrick Boyd is our engineer. I'm Noelle King. This has been Today Explained.

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Before we get to the events of the past couple of weeks, what's his reputation as mayor been? What do New Yorkers think of him?

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When do things start to go south for him legally?

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As mayor, there was the Urban Rat Summit. There was the baptism, his, at Rikers Island. And then there was the alleged corruption, the wire fraud, bribery, the indictment. And then came the order from the Department of Justice that all those charges had to be dropped. Ahead on Today Explained.

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Okay, and once he's charged, what does he say?

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Mayor Adams is a Democrat. Yes. OK, but he claims he was targeted by the Biden administration and then President Trump is elected. And that leads us to where we are today. What happened?

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Yeah. What is the Justice Department memo?

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So is the case, are the charges against Adams really going to get dropped? We don't know yet.

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So you're a native New Yorker, and politics in New York can get weird. In your time covering politics in New York, where does this kind of stand on the scale of 1 to 10? Oh, I would say this is probably an eight.

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The city's Katie Honan getting ready to go into a Mayor Adams press conference. Good luck in there. Enjoy. I'll need it. Thank you so much.

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Barbara McQuaid teaches at the University of Michigan's law school. She served as the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan. There are 93 U.S. attorneys in these United States, and it is their job to enforce federal law. As all U.S. attorneys are, Barb was a presidential appointee. She was appointed by Obama in 2010, and she served until 2017.