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Cafeteria wars

Wed, 22 Jan 2025

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RFK Jr. is the latest in a long line of reformers who have tried to clean up school lunch. The history of those attempts illustrates how hard it is to change the American food system. This episode was produced by Miles Bryan, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Andrea Kristinsdottir, and hosted by Noel King. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast Support Today, Explained by becoming a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/members Healthy cafeteria food options at IDEA Public Charter School in northeast Washington, DC. Photo by Miles Bryan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What challenges does the American school lunch program face?

0.609 - 3.631 Noel King

It's Today Explained. I'm Noelle King with Miles Bryan.

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3.811 - 5.912 Noel King

Senior reporter and producer for the program. Hello.

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6.132 - 7.773 Noel King

Hi. You went to public school, right, Miles?

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8.053 - 9.414 Noel King

Yes. Go South High Tigers.

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9.754 - 11.435 Noel King

What do you remember about school lunch?

12.575 - 17.958 Noel King

I remember sad lasagna shrink-wrapped in little containers. I remember avoiding it.

18.258 - 19.979 Noel King

Do you remember the nugs? The chicken nuggets?

22.27 - 24.452 Noel King

Yeah, if I had to eat school lunch, that was a pretty good option.

24.952 - 34.179 Noel King

I actually liked them. But in addition to being very tasty, those nugs were very processed. And at the moment, America has got processed foods in its crosshairs.

Chapter 2: Why is processed food a concern in school lunches?

224.872 - 229.314 Chef Host

Wow. Chef, may I come behind the line? I've never, okay.

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229.534 - 251.922 Darian DeVar

All right, so can you guys hear me? So today we have spaghetti with whole wheat pasta and we have mixed veggies, that's green beans, sauteed peppers, peppers and onions, a fresh garden salad. We also have Parmesan cheese and something that I love dearly, which is the brown butter ricotta. It complements very well with the pasta and the kids absolutely love it.

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252.332 - 263.339 Noel King

Let me ask you about these green beans because I am dipping in the past, but you do remember the green beans. I do. You remember they were colorless. Yes, flavorless. What's the word? Slimy.

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263.519 - 264.96 Darian DeVar

Slimy, yeah, exactly. I do.

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265.22 - 268.422 Noel King

You got peppers in there. You got onions in there. You got spices in there.

268.602 - 271.244 Darian DeVar

Absolutely. Spices, garlic, seasoning.

271.784 - 274.686 Noel King

There was not a chicken nugget in sight in Northeast D.C.

274.826 - 285.152 Noel King

Yeah, that meal looked beautiful. But as the father of a young daughter, Noelle, I have to tell you something. The only thing that really matters here is, are the kids going to eat it?

286.493 - 286.813 Noel King

Fair.

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