Project Esther offers a blueprint for casting some campus protesters as part of a “Hamas Support Network,” making it easier to detain and deport them. Critics say the plan doesn’t fight antisemitism — and could make it worse. This episode was produced by Amanda Lewellyn, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Noel King. Further reading: Project Esther: A National Strategy to Combat Antisemitism. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast Support Today, Explained by becoming a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/members An exterior view of The Heritage Foundation building. Photo by Andrew Harnik/Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is Project Esther and how does it relate to Project 2025?
Well, there is a playbook that was created by the Heritage Foundation called Project Esther. Many listeners may remember the Heritage Foundation for their Project 2025. Yes. And so Project Esther could be seen as an addendum.
Project Esther, a national strategy to combat anti-Semitism.
It's a blueprint for the administration. It was released around October of last year, before the election, not a lot of press. It calls for an administration to rebrand pro-Palestinian protesters as Hamas supporters.
The Hamas support network and its nihilist supporters indoctrinate the gullible into supporting Hamas and hating Israel to create the street mayhem that serves their ends.
Chapter 2: How does Project Esther define and target pro-Palestinian protesters?
It also calls for the administration to go after any funders, nonprofits, progressive-leaning groups who are supporting protesters.
We have several laws at our disposal that may help to exploit Hamas support network and Hamas support organization vulnerabilities, such as the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
Project Esther lays out a plan for administration to implement that, and that's what happened when the Trump administration came in. The plan was right there.
If you tell us when you apply for your visa, and by the way, I intend to come to your country as a student and rile up all kinds of anti-Jewish student, anti-Semitic activities. I intend to shut down your universities. If you told us all these things when you applied for a visa, we would deny your visa. I hope we would.
If you actually end up doing that once you're in this country on such a visa, we will revoke it.
Okay, so Project Esther comes from the Heritage Foundation. Who wrote it exactly?
It looks like it was a coalition of Heritage Foundation authors. The document clearly states that we're doing this because we have concluded there's been Jewish complacency. That means Jewish American groups, American Jews have not done enough to fight anti-Semitism.
Some may be in such disbelief that they cannot even acknowledge the threat. More likely, many simply do not know what to do and are waiting for leadership to guide them.
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Chapter 3: Who authored Project Esther and what are their motivations?
So therefore, this is going to be a larger effort, and it does not need to be Jewish-led. Who is the we? That's the clear. It doesn't look like it had a lot of Jewish American input. It looks like this we is a lot of Christians, white Christians, conservative Christians. They've taken a step to say, look, we're concerned about anti-Semitism. This is not just a Jewish fight. This is our fight too.
And we feel we have to speak out against anti-Semitism. Here's our plan.
Why are these Christian conservatives so invested in fighting anti-Semitism?
Well, it goes to the worldview of Christian conservatives. If you've ever been to an evangelical church, I grew up in Houston, Texas, so I know this very well. The idea of Israel is very central to their being. A lot of white Christians believe there needs to be a strong Israel for the second coming of Christ.
Now, this goes into history now. Now you have Israel... literally being the centerpiece of God's cosmic clock. That's why Christians are so fixated on Israel.
On the other side, you've got conservative-led governments in Israel that have made coalitions with conservative Christians in the United States because they see them as important allies for a lot of their fights as they go into this Israeli-Palestinian conflict. So there's always been a relationship.
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Chapter 4: Why are Christian conservatives invested in combating anti-Semitism according to Project Esther?
I'm a great champion of devout Christians because devout Christians are the greatest champion of the state of Israel.
When the prime minister comes to the United States, he'll often visit with white Christian groups who are very supportive. There are trips, visits. So when they see protests on college campuses by pro-Palestinian demonstrators, they see this as antithetical to the worldview and they must speak out.
All right. So Project 2025 was 900 some odd pages. I read many of them, but I didn't read all. Project Esther is only about 33 pages. It's very easy to get through. Both of the projects are kind of built on thesis statements. What is the thesis statement of Project Esther?
Project Esther believes there has not been enough evidence.
efforts to fight anti-semitism and there needs to be attacked on multiple fronts it then says it is the objective for the administration or anybody who would take this project to rebrand pro-palestinian protesters as part of the quote hamas support network it then outlines some things to say this is needed these steps are needed to put colleges back in their place and
and address students who are harassing Jewish students. They believe, in their view, that pro-Palestinian demonstrations are a threat in general to Jewish students, that they make Jewish students uncomfortable. Now, to be very clear, in my reporting, there have been many cases of Jewish students feeling uncomfortable at these protests. There have been many anti-Semitic things said to students.
But this takes it a step further that suggests that all protests are likely anti-Semitic and all protests need to be dealt with accordingly.
What is this thing, the Hamas Support Network? Is that a real organization?
No, it doesn't seem to be a real organization. It seems to be how they're portraying it. Those who are part of the student protests say this is outrageous. This is a grassroots effort. These are students who are protesting, who believe they see an injustice. It has nothing to do with a network. This is a group of students and activists who are speaking out
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Chapter 5: What is the Hamas Support Network and is it a real organization?
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Chapter 6: How are Jewish groups responding to Project Esther and its approach?
Chapter 7: What criticisms exist regarding Project Esther's impact on free speech and anti-Semitism efforts?
Chapter 8: How is the Trump administration applying Project Esther’s strategies in practice?
The Trump administration is justifying the arrest and detention of protester Mahmoud Khalil and Rumaisa Ozturk, who wrote an op-ed in a student newspaper, by calling them Hamas supporters. But when asked for evidence, the administration doesn't offer any. Here's a DHS official on NPR.
How did he support Hamas? Exactly what did he do?
I think you could see it on TV, right? This is somebody that we've invited and allowed the student to come into the country. And he put himself in the middle of the process of basically pro-Palestinian activity.
So where is this allegation coming from? On Today Explained, it might be coming from the same people who wrote Project 2025. Project Esther largely flew under the radar until now.
So they didn't actually say whether they took cues from Project Esther. What they said is, well, it's always been a core principle. It just so happens those core principles can be found in Project Esther.
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I'm Noelle King with Russell Contreras. He's a senior reporter at Axios who wrote that the Trump administration's actions to combat anti-Semitism by calling people Hamas supporters stems from a specific playbook. Russ, what's the playbook?
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