Matthew Hussey
Appearances
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
Sometimes we're wanting something else because there's, you know, the person that's in front of us isn't compelling enough. There really is something lacking in that relationship. But I do think we have to ask ourselves, what are the things I really must have for an amazing relationship? I'm not a... you know, there's the one out there kind of a person. I've never been that way.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
If anyone looks back through my videos, and you know this because we've spoken about it, back when I was single, you know, I've never been a person who believes in the idea of the one. So I think that it's finding someone that we've, you know, we look at what's really important to us
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
Not what's important on an egoic level, because I think a lot of the things that make us question whether this person is right for us are ego-based. I don't think they're based on how we feel around this person. We worry, is this the kind of person my friends think that I should be with? Do they look the part? Are they my normal type?
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
Yeah. Has this person come in the package that I had always told myself they would come in? And those things can be really, really limiting. And they can have us constantly trying to optimize for some... version of something that we think we're supposed to be with, which is a very dangerous way to go about finding love. You can't optimize for human beings.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
You can optimize for a lot in life, but you're dealing with people. By the way, even if you let go of this person, you're going to find someone else who's also imperfect and they might... Okay, this person scores a seven in this area and they score a nine, but guess what? They score a three in this other area that you didn't even know
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
was great in this relationship because you took for granted how amazing that person was in that way. It's very dangerous to optimize in that way in our love life. And I've come to really believe in life that if you find a connection that has all the right raw materials, and you both have the same level of commitment, then you can build something extraordinary together.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
And actually the extraordinary is the thing you sculpt together. It's no different from a career. When we think of what's our like, what are we worried about in our love life? For so many of us, it's that we're going to settle.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
I'm going to settle for the wrong person. Well, I think we can actually start to reclaim the language of settling and make it into a very positive thing. What if it wasn't settling for, what if you decided to settle on settling? Because when you settle on someone, there's a power to that. It's like you resolve to say, I'm going to settle on this.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
I have to argue that the benefit I have gotten from the pain that I didn't choose has been no less valuable than the benefit I've gotten from the pain I did choose. In fact, actually, I think the most valuable pain I've ever had is the pain I didn't choose. And when you realize that, you can kind of almost, I think, look at some of the worst moments of your life as like a menu of pain.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
And beside the item on the menu is the very specific, unique benefits that can only come from this kind of pain. And you can kind of imagine yourself choosing, like retroactively choosing that pain.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
which is a very valuable thing to do because I was told by a psychologist about an experiment on rats where one rat was on a wheel and was just given the free rein to just run whenever it wanted to run. There was another rat, this was rat A, rat B was connected to that wheel. He was on another wheel that was connected to rat A's wheel. And any time rat A chose to run, rat B had to run, right?
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
So both doing the same amount of exercising, but at the end of the experiment, rat A shows all the positive markers of exercise and rat B shows all the negative markers of stress.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
Same amount of exercise, what's the difference? Well, rat A chose to run, rat B didn't. Anyone who doesn't choose you cannot be for you. If they don't see you, like what is a relationship? It's someone sees you, they accept you and they want that. That's the most beautiful part of a relationship.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
So if someone doesn't see you and accept you and want what they see, then this relationship is missing the most beautiful part of any relationship. It shouldn't be desirable at that stage because it's not...
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
it has failed the fundamental test of what makes a relationship worth having we're not talking about a person who you know in in at least the case i feel we're talking about the person who was taken from us by life we're talking about a person who's just walking around somewhere still existing on the planet but choosing not to be with us that should lose its romance to us
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
You know, and, and to say, well, if that's the other game we play is if it was a different time in life, if they were a bit older, they would have been ready to commit. If they had been in different phase where they weren't so busy with their work, they might've had the space to really give to this relationship, but they said their work isn't allowing them to.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb
If it's like we go through all these scenarios where it, it forces us into this sad love song of right person, wrong time. And that's a really pernicious story. That's a very dangerous story because it takes what belongs in the realm of science fiction and brings it into our reality.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
The Easiest Way to Start Investing Today— No Experience Needed (You Just Need $1!) with Robinhood CEO
It's a show dedicated to helping you figure out the trickiest parts of adulting.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
The Easiest Way to Start Investing Today— No Experience Needed (You Just Need $1!) with Robinhood CEO
Let's learn about all of it and then some. Listen to Grown Up Stuff How to Adult on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search Grown Up Stuff.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
which is a very valuable thing to do because I was told by a psychologist about an experiment on rats where one rat was on a wheel and was just given the free rein to just run whenever it wanted to run. There was another rat, this was rat A, rat B was connected to that wheel. He was on another wheel that was connected to rat A's wheel. And any time rat A chose to run, rat B had to run, right?
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
So both doing the same amount of exercising, but at the end of the experiment, rat A shows all the positive markers of exercise and rat B shows all the negative markers of stress.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
Same amount of exercise, what's the difference? Well, rat A chose to run, rat B didn't. And there's something profound about that to me, because if we can take a situation that we didn't choose, who would choose to be heartbroken, right? It's the worst. It's a terrible pain.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
But what if in that pain you did realize, like, there is something here that I'm going to gain from this experience that I couldn't have any other way? that if I look on that menu of pain, this one has some really good benefits. Like this one has some really amazing stuff.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
Who I'm going to have to become to get through this, what I'm going to have to learn, the way I'm going to have to get comfort, even just to get through a weekend right now on my own is going to be this unbelievable feat. and to get comfortable in my own company and to sit in this pain. And there are such profound benefits from that.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
What if I did actually look at those benefits and say, they're so powerful, that I'm gonna choose this pain so that I can experience those benefits. And so you turn yourself from rat B to rat A, and all of a sudden you're not a victim of that pain anymore. You're the beneficiary of these exquisite gifts that you could only get this way. And that...
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
that's only there's one tool i've used to get through some of the worst worst pain of my life and then on a practice and on a psychological level with heartbreak what i always remind people is that if anyone who doesn't choose you cannot be for you they if they don't see you like what is a relationship it's someone sees you they accept you and they want that
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
That's the most beautiful part of a relationship. So if someone doesn't see you and accept you and want what they see, then this relationship is missing the most beautiful part of any relationship. It shouldn't be desirable at that stage because it's not... It has failed the fundamental test of what makes a relationship worth having.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
We're not talking about a person who, you know, in at least the case I feel we're talking about, the person who was taken from us by life. We're talking about a person who's just walking around somewhere, still existing on the planet, but choosing not to be with us. that should lose its romance to us.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
You know, and to say, well, if that's the other game we play is if it was a different time in life, if they were a bit older, they would have been ready to commit. If they had been in different phase where they weren't so busy with their work, they might've had the space to really give to this relationship, but they said their work isn't allowing them to.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
If it's like we go through all these scenarios where it, it, forces us into this sad love song of right person, wrong time. And that's a really like pernicious story. That's a very dangerous story because it takes what belongs in the realm of science fiction and brings it into our reality. When we're thinking about an ex from like five years ago, And we're like, I miss them, I don't know why.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
You don't even know who they are anymore. That was five years ago. They're a different person now in many ways. You're a different person now in any way. If you got together now, you'd be getting together as different people. You miss a ghost. Person doesn't exist anymore in the way that you think they do. And when you're saying, oh, if only we met five years from now, it would have worked.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
In what parallel universe? This is science fiction. It didn't happen in this universe. So it's It's like, it is wishing for a parallel universe where everything, all the dominoes unfolded in a different way. It's not this universe. So we just, we have to get out of this mindset because it gets us bought into a science fiction story that doesn't really exist.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
I don't believe in the right person at the wrong time. It's the right person is right in their personality. They're ready. And their life is compatible with yours. If you're missing one of those three things, then it's not the right person. The right person has to be more than someone who you have a great time with and you like who they are and have great conversation and great intimacy.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
That's not the only criteria for someone who's right. So we have to stop telling ourself the story. That someone who, you know, broke up with us or it was bad timing or whatever is the right person for us. That is just a story. It is not reality. The right person is the person it happens with.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
100%.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
Well, when you're in the depths of it, because there's different phases, right? Like there's a, certainly a phase of any heartbreak when it's genuine, deep heartbreak, where you are just questioning your existence, where you are like, I, this, you know, I remember having my own heartbroken and sitting on this door, the doorstep of my house with a friend of mine.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
And just with tears in my eyes saying to him, I just feel like I'm not good enough. That was my deep sense was that I am not good enough. And if I was good enough, I would have been able to make this work. And that's a horrible place to be. And we have to have compassion for ourselves in those times because it's brutally difficult.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
It's a time where we just need love and we need to celebrate the fact that we got through another day and that we managed to get out of bed today. And it was a heroic act for me to just get out of bed. I always think that all of these moments give us gears that we wouldn't have had otherwise. And the worst pain of my life has given me access to gears that I didn't know I had.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
And as much as no one wants to hear it when they're in it, those gears turn out to be really valuable. They really do. I mean, we all choose suffering in our lives. Like we choose to go to the gym, that's choosing suffering. We choose like to write a book, that's choosing a form of suffering. We choose to make a podcast or we choose to climb a literal mountain or like we choose pain.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
in our lives regularly because we know that it gives us, there are benefits to be had. I have to argue that the benefit I have gotten from the pain that I didn't choose has been no less valuable than the benefit I've gotten from the pain I did choose. In fact, actually, I think the most valuable pain I've ever had is the pain I didn't choose.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jay's Must- Listens: Before You Text Your Ex… Listen to This! 5 Love Experts Share the SECRET to Let Go and Move On (Ft. Esther Perel, Mel Robbins, & Matthew Hussey)
And when you realize that, you can kind of almost, I think, look at some of the worst moments of your life as like a menu of pain. And beside the item on the menu is the very specific, unique benefits that can only come from this kind of pain. And you can kind of imagine yourself choosing, like retroactively choosing that pain.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Dr. Rangan Chatterjee: #1 Way to Break a Bad Habit & Why 50% of What Doctors Learn in Medical School Turns Out Wrong
45 years ago, a Virginia soul band called the Edge of Daybreak recorded their debut album, Behind Bars. Record collectors consider it a masterpiece. The band's surviving members are long out of prison, but they say they have some unfinished business.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Dr. Rangan Chatterjee: #1 Way to Break a Bad Habit & Why 50% of What Doctors Learn in Medical School Turns Out Wrong
Listen to Soul Incarcerated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Dr. Rangan Chatterjee: #1 Way to Break a Bad Habit & Why 50% of What Doctors Learn in Medical School Turns Out Wrong
45 years ago, a Virginia soul band called the Edge of Daybreak recorded their debut album, Behind Bars. Record collectors consider it a masterpiece. The band's surviving members are long out of prison, but they say they have some unfinished business. Listen to Soul Incarcerated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Jillian Turecki: 3 Biggest Dating Mistakes You’re Making (Stop Chasing Love That’s Not For You)
People should be compassionate to themselves, but extend that compassion to your future self because truly extending your compassion to your future self is doing something that gives him or her a shot at a happy and a peaceful life.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Dan Harris: The Hidden Stressors That Are Ruining Your Inner Health & 10 Changes to Make to Reduce Stress
It's a show dedicated to helping you figure out the trickiest parts of adulting.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Dan Harris: The Hidden Stressors That Are Ruining Your Inner Health & 10 Changes to Make to Reduce Stress
Let's learn about all of it and then some. Listen to Grown Up Stuff How to Adult on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search Grown Up Stuff.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Alexis Ohanian: Why Discipline Creates Freedom & How to Incorporate Routines in Your Schedule in Order to Succeed
It's a show dedicated to helping you figure out the trickiest parts of adulting.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Alexis Ohanian: Why Discipline Creates Freedom & How to Incorporate Routines in Your Schedule in Order to Succeed
Let's learn about all of it and then some. Listen to Grown Up Stuff How to Adult on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search Grown Up Stuff.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LOVE EXPERT Stephan Speaks: 7 Ways You are Blocking Yourself From Meeting Your Soulmate (Change Your Patterns to Find the ONE)
People should be compassionate to themselves, but extend that compassion to your future self because truly extending your compassion to your future self is doing something that gives him or her a shot at a happy and a peaceful life.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Mel Robbins: How to Use the ‘Let Them Theory’ (A Life Changing Mindset Hack That 15 Million People Can’t Stop Talking About)
45 years ago, a Virginia soul band called the Edge of Daybreak recorded their debut album, Behind Bars. Record collectors consider it a masterpiece. The band's surviving members are long out of prison, but they say they have some unfinished business. The Edge of Daybreak, Eyes of Love, was supposed to have been followed up by another app.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Mel Robbins: How to Use the ‘Let Them Theory’ (A Life Changing Mindset Hack That 15 Million People Can’t Stop Talking About)
Listen to Soul Incarcerated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Mel Robbins: How to Use the ‘Let Them Theory’ (A Life Changing Mindset Hack That 15 Million People Can’t Stop Talking About)
45 years ago, a Virginia soul band called the Edge of Daybreak recorded their debut album, Behind Bars. Record collectors consider it a masterpiece. The band's surviving members are long out of prison, but they say they have some unfinished business. Listen to Soul Incarcerated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
3 Tools To Build Self Confidence in a World where People Make You Feel Insecure
It's a show dedicated to helping you figure out the trickiest parts of adulting.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
3 Tools To Build Self Confidence in a World where People Make You Feel Insecure
Let's learn about all of it and then some. Listen to Grown Up Stuff How to Adult on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search Grown Up Stuff.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Brain Expert: 6 Habits to Boost Focus & Concentration By 48 Percent (Hack Your Dopamine!) with TJ Power
It's a show dedicated to helping you figure out the trickiest parts of adulting.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Brain Expert: 6 Habits to Boost Focus & Concentration By 48 Percent (Hack Your Dopamine!) with TJ Power
Let's learn about all of it and then some. Listen to Grown Up Stuff How to Adult on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search Grown Up Stuff.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Do THIS to Stop Spiraling (7 Steps to Instantly Break the Cycle of Negative Thoughts)
Hey, everyone. This is Molly and Matt, and we're the hosts of Grown Up Stuff How to Adult, a podcast from Ruby Studio and iHeart Podcasts.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Do THIS to Stop Spiraling (7 Steps to Instantly Break the Cycle of Negative Thoughts)
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On Purpose with Jay Shetty
4 Types of Toxic People in Your Life & 4 Tools to Stop Letting Them Drain You
Hey everyone, we want to tell you about our podcast.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
4 Types of Toxic People in Your Life & 4 Tools to Stop Letting Them Drain You
Hello, I'm Kelly Wienersmith. I study parasites along with nature's other creepy crawlies and there's just endless things about this universe that I find fascinating.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
4 Types of Toxic People in Your Life & 4 Tools to Stop Letting Them Drain You
And on our podcast, Daniel and Kelly's Extraordinary Universe is all about the mind-blowing discoveries we've made about this crazy, beautiful cosmos.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
4 Types of Toxic People in Your Life & 4 Tools to Stop Letting Them Drain You
Each Tuesday and Thursday, we take an hour-long dive into some science topic, during which time I try to suppress my biologist training and keep the poop jokes to a minimum.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
4 Types of Toxic People in Your Life & 4 Tools to Stop Letting Them Drain You
We love learning about this extraordinary universe.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
4 Types of Toxic People in Your Life & 4 Tools to Stop Letting Them Drain You
And on our podcast, Daniel and Kelly's Extraordinary Universe, that's what we're going to do.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
4 Types of Toxic People in Your Life & 4 Tools to Stop Letting Them Drain You
I'm Kelly Wienersmith. I study parasites, and there's just endless things about this universe that I find fascinating.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
4 Types of Toxic People in Your Life & 4 Tools to Stop Letting Them Drain You
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On Purpose with Jay Shetty
4 Types of Toxic People in Your Life & 4 Tools to Stop Letting Them Drain You
Grown Up Stuff. We love learning about this extraordinary universe.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
4 Types of Toxic People in Your Life & 4 Tools to Stop Letting Them Drain You
And on our podcast, Daniel and Kelly's Extraordinary Universe, that's what we're going to do.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
4 Types of Toxic People in Your Life & 4 Tools to Stop Letting Them Drain You
I'm Kelly Wienersmith. I study parasites, and there's just endless things about this universe that I find fascinating.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
4 Types of Toxic People in Your Life & 4 Tools to Stop Letting Them Drain You
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On Purpose with Jay Shetty
3 Ways to Recharge Your Battery & 3 Daily Practices to Reduce Stress by 100% with the CEO of Calm @davidko
It's a show dedicated to helping you figure out the trickiest parts of adulting.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
3 Ways to Recharge Your Battery & 3 Daily Practices to Reduce Stress by 100% with the CEO of Calm @davidko
Let's learn about all of it and then some. Listen to Grown Up Stuff How to Adult on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search Grown Up Stuff.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
5 Ways to Achieve a ‘Rich Life’ & Change Your Mindset from Scarcity to Abundance
It's a show dedicated to helping you figure out the trickiest parts of adulting.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
5 Ways to Achieve a ‘Rich Life’ & Change Your Mindset from Scarcity to Abundance
Let's learn about all of it and then some. Listen to Grown Up Stuff How to Adult on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search Grown Up Stuff.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
We love learning about this extraordinary universe.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
And on our podcast, Daniel and Kelly's Extraordinary Universe, that's what we're going to do. I'm Daniel.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
I'm Kelly Wienersmith. I study parasites, and there's just endless things about this universe that I find fascinating.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
Each Tuesday and Thursday, we take an hour-long dive into some science topic.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
Grown Up Stuff. We love learning about this extraordinary universe.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
And on our podcast, Daniel and Kelly's Extraordinary Universe, that's what we're going to do.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
I'm Kelly Wienersmith. I study parasites, and there's just endless things about this universe that I find fascinating.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
6 Step Blueprint to Achieve All Your Goals for 2025 (Proven Method- Don't Skip This)
Each Tuesday and Thursday, we take an hour-long dive into some science topic.
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
It was like complete opposites. Yeah.
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
Well, I think the people that trigger us the most are the people that we're closest to. So it's hard to, you know, well, they uniquely know how to push our buttons as well. Hopefully they don't do that on purpose, but, you know, they have the knowledge to be able to push our buttons. But also just, it's like family.
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
You know, you think you've grown so much and you think you have become so kind of wise and you've healed. And then you go back for Christmas with family or for the holidays. Just push your buttons and trigger you. Within two days, something happens. has you feeling like a 14-year-old who's mad again. Those people that are closest to us have this unique ability to impact us.
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
So I think it's really easy to have patience with people like, oh, it's so much easier with my friends. Yeah, no.
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
you don't see your friend every night of the week you see them once every couple of weeks it's like a little honeymoon every time you get together because you just you're just excited to see each other of course they don't push your buttons the same way but the person you're with every day is going to so um i think having we we have to almost step back from it a little bit and go this isn't necessarily a sign that my partner is so much worse than everybody else it's a sign that
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
This person is so close to me that it's the easiest place for me to get triggered. And it's probably the place I have the least patience. because I give so much energy everywhere else in my life, I take for granted that this person's gonna be there at the end of the day.
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
We go to work and we give our best energy and then we go home and whatever is left, we hand to our partner and we've reserved our patience for everyone else in our lives. So I think taking a step back and going, what would it look like
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
This is a very hard thing to do, but what would it look like if I gave my partner the kind of grace or patience or understanding that I give to other people in my life that frankly probably do a lot less for me? that show up a lot less for me. What would it look like if I started showing up for them in that way, I think isn't a bad question. Interesting. What would you add to that?
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
I think it's well, it would be it would be termed the trauma bond right that there's a there's this behavior that makes life really hard with this person or it might even make it intolerable but we tolerate it for as long as we can and then you know if it ever got too too bad for too long we would just have to leave right if it was if it was just hell 24 7 no matter what We would leave.
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
It would be enough. We would reach a certain pain threshold. But there's doses of moments, right? Of good moments. There's that moment where someone does something that hints at a different side of them. It hints at the potential for kindness, the potential for understanding. It hints at what the relationship is. could be. Or was in the beginning. Or was in the beginning.
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
And that reels us back in and we are so elated and so happy to have this moment that we then say, okay, I'm gonna go back in. And then of course the other shoe drops, which it always does. And I think of it as a broken clock. The broken clock is right twice a day. It's not a good watch for telling the time. It's failed in its fundamental function.
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
But when it's right, you go, well, you know, that kind of relationship you're describing is the broken watch. we're trying to use this thing to tell the time thinking that, oh no, it was right a minute ago. Well, maybe it is working after all. And then we have to wait another 12 hours before it's right again. So you have to ask yourself, am I in that broken watch relationship?
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
And if I am, what's the way to get out of that? Well, I think one of the ways is to properly tune into your feelings. Because I think we don't really tune into what our experience is. We are so focused on where it could go or the fact that we think that we will never be okay if we lose this person. How will I get by? Can I... Can I deal with the pain of losing this person?
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
If I could just get them and turn them into the thing that I need them to be, then I'll be happy. We're so fixated on that, that we're not fixated on the pain that we are in constantly, which is making us miserable. Or if we really paid attention, we'd look at how this disproportionately makes us miserable. I worked with someone who ended a relationship with a very toxic person.
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
And this person was never around. This person was completely dismissive. Even on the weekends when they were together, this person was just on their laptop paying them absolutely zero attention. And the woman that I was coaching, I remember at the end of the relationship, she said, I just don't know how I'm going to do this, how I'm going to be on my own. And then I showed her the relationship.
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
Yeah, like if I'm not, I don't know how I'm gonna be on my own. And then I actually showed her the relationship. You are on your own. And I said, this person's never home. They stay out. On the weekends, you're completely alone, even when you're in the same room. You've spent the last five years learning how to be alone. You're already good at this.
The School of Greatness
3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
You just have this old association that when I leave, I'm not gonna be able to take it, but you already have the tools.
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3 Steps To Building A Healthy Relationship
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
Well, I think the people that trigger us the most are the people that we're closest to. So it's hard to, well, they uniquely know how to push our buttons as well. Hopefully they don't do that on purpose, but they have the knowledge to be able to push our buttons. But also just it's like family.
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
You know, you think you've grown so much and you think you have become so kind of wise and you've healed. And then you go back for Christmas with family or for the holidays. And within two days, something happens. has you feeling like a 14-year-old who's mad again. Those people that are closest to us have this unique ability to impact us.
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
So I think it's really easy to have patience with people like, oh, it's so much easier with my friends. Yeah, no. You don't see your friend every night of the week. You see them once every couple of weeks. It's like a little honeymoon every time you get together because you're just excited to see each other. Of course they don't push your buttons the same way.
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
But the person you're with every day is going to. So I think having... we have to almost step back from it a little bit and go, this isn't necessarily a sign that my partner is so much worse than everybody else. It's a sign that this person is so close to me that it's the easiest place for me to get triggered. And it's probably the place I have the least patience.
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
because I give so much energy everywhere else in my life, I take for granted that this person's gonna be there at the end of the day. We go to work and we give our best energy and then we go home and whatever is left, we hand to our partner and we've reserved our patience for everyone else in our lives. So I think taking a step back and going, what would it look like
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
This is a very hard thing to do, but what would it look like if I gave my partner the kind of grace or patience or understanding that I give to other people in my life? that frankly probably do a lot less for me, that show up a lot less for me. What would it look like if I started showing up for them in that way, I think isn't a bad question. Interesting. What would you add to that story?
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
I think it's, well, it would be, it would be, termed the trauma bond right that there's a there's this behavior that makes life really hard with this person or it might even make it intolerable but we tolerate it for as long as we can and then you know if it ever got too too bad for too long we would just have to leave right if it was if it was just hell 24 7 no matter what
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
we would leave, we would reach a certain pain threshold. But there's doses of moments, right? Of good moments. There's that moment where someone does something that hints at a different side of them, it hints at the potential for kindness, the potential for understanding, it hints at what the relationship could be. Or was in the beginning.
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
And that reels us back in. And we are so elated and so happy to have this moment that we then say, okay, I'm gonna go back in. And then of course, the other shoe drops, which it always does. And, you know, I think of it as a broken clock, right? The broken clock is right twice a day. You don't think it's a good... It's not a good watch for telling the time, right?
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
It's failed in its fundamental function. But... when it's right you go well you know like that kind of relationship you're describing is the broken watch we're trying to use this thing to tell the time thinking that oh no it was right a minute ago well maybe maybe it is working after all and then we have to wait another 12 hours before it's right again so
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
that you have to ask yourself am i in that broken watch relationship um and if i am what's what's the way to get out of that well i think one of the ways is to properly tune into your feelings Because I think we don't really tune into what our experience is. We are so focused on where it could go or the fact that we think that we will never be okay if we lose this person. How will I get by?
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
Can I... Can I deal with the pain of losing this person? If I could just get them and turn them into the thing that I need them to be, then I'll be happy. We're so fixated on that that we're not fixated on the pain that we are in constantly, which is making us miserable. Or if we really paid attention, we'd look at how this disproportionately makes us miserable. I worked with someone who
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
ended a relationship with a very toxic person. And this person was never around. This person was completely dismissive. Even on the weekends when they were together, this person was just on their laptop, paying them absolutely zero attention. And the woman that I was coaching, I remember at the end of the relationship, she said, I just don't know how I'm gonna do this, how I'm gonna be on my own.
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
And then I showed her the relationship. Yeah, like if I'm not, I don't know how I'm going to be on my own. And then I actually showed her the relationship. You are on your own. I said, this person's never home. They stay out. On the weekends, you're completely alone, even when you're in the same room. You've spent the last five years learning how to be alone. You're already good at this.
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
You just have this old association that when I leave, I'm not going to be able to take it, but you already have the tools.
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
I mean, I think if we have a very different vision for how we wanna live our lives, you know, those are really hard. You know, one person wants a family and the other one doesn't. You know, these are... But to the point of communication, those are things that often people turn a blind eye to. Why is that?
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
We have a scarcity mindset. It's that fear of nothing better is going to come along. Look, I think that in our love lives especially, We really want to meet someone. It's a universal thing. We really want to meet someone. And when we haven't met someone, we can start to get scared as time goes on. And we...
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
think there's something wrong with us and I'm broken and I'm never going to find someone and what if it never happens for me and God it's so hard to meet someone and so the most dangerous moment in love and dating is the moment you meet someone you're attracted to that is the most dangerous moment because if you meet a person you're attracted to in a place of scarcity and fear
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
That is precisely the time that you lower your standards and you lose your boundaries. Because the instinct is don't do anything that could mess it up. The instinct is not, let me see how right this is. Don't do anything to screw this up. Now, people have different ways of dealing with that fear. But if you take, you know, one example is some people go into like anxious fawning, right?
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
I'm scared. I'm just going to do everything. What kind of characterizes anxious fawning? I'm going to... Anxious fawning? Fawning, yeah. Fawning, okay. I'm going to like, so I'm anxious. And my instinct when I'm anxious is to try to make you happy. Because if I can make you happy, maybe you'll never leave me. So for a lot of people, what that means is I overgive myself.
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
at the same time as under-communicating what I really need, which is a really poisonous combination. Because it simultaneously means you burn out giving to someone, but also no one knows what you really want.
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
Yeah, you resent them, but you're too afraid to rock the boat because you don't want to lose them. And it's fascinating to me. You can literally look at different types of people and how they react to that. If you are doing that and you come across an avoidant, Someone who's avoidant is gonna get pushed away. They're gonna be like, this is a lot.
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
And you're gonna keep giving even though they've pulled away, because that's what you do, but you're not gonna communicate that it's hurt you that they've pulled away. So with an avoidant type, you won't get your needs met Because you won't communicate as they pull away. You'll just keep giving, hoping that they'll come back.
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
If you come across an anxious person and you're anxiously fawning, that person might consume you. Most people, not most people, some people have had that experience with a parent where their parent was just trying to get their own needs met. And they became the child that gave and gave and gave and gave and gave to try to make the parent happy. But because they had no boundaries around that.
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
They became deeply resentful of this one sided relationship with their parent. People then go into that in relationships, too, where it's like they just live in service of this other person who's anxiously taking as much as they can. If you come across a secure person and you're anxiously fawning, then that person is going to have a hard time connecting with you.
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
Because they're not going to know what your preferences are. They're going to say, what do you want for dinner? And you say, what do you want for dinner? And they'll go, I don't know, Chinese food. And you'll go, that was me too. I wanted that. And if you do that three times in a row, they'll realize they don't know who you are. They can't connect with you. They don't know how to make you happy.
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
And they can't really trust you. because they can't trust that you're ever really saying what you really think. So I say this to highlight the fact that this is how these dynamics get started, is we're coming from a place of fear. And when we're coming from a place of fear, we go to the weapons that we know how to use, right? We all have our weapon of choice.
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
For some people it's, I don't let anyone screw with me. And that's their weapon of choice. And the moment they think they could get hurt, they reject someone before that person can reject them. Other people is my weapon of choice is making, trying to do as much as possible for you that I make myself indispensable. It's worth everyone asking like, what's my weapon of choice? What do I default to?
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
And if I never question what I'm defaulting to, I'm going to always be in the same kinds of relationships. And by the way, that anxious fawning I'm talking about, who does it attract? The toxic person, right? Because that person sees a free lunch. I'm going to come and take everything from the buffet here. And then when I'm done with it, I'm out.
The School of Greatness
How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
So then we go, why do I always attract people like this? Or why do I always fall into these patterns? is because there is a weapon that we are overusing. And at some point we have to, like, it's a very brave thing to go, what weapon am I overusing? And recognize, by the way, that's meeting a need. that there's some need it's meeting, right? If I'm... Not a healthy need.
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
But if I crack jokes and make everyone laugh and I know I can do that, then it meets a need for me. It's control. I know that I can control the room through making people laugh. Now, it also might be a barrier to connection in situations where sincerity is called for and we never get deep because I'm always making jokes. But if I stop joking...
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
And I say, I'm gonna try and create a deeper connection and that means I'm gonna pull back from the sarcasm, let's say. I have taken away my own most practiced sharpened weapon. And I may not know how to operate in this new territory. I now may find myself almost like a toddler in conversation, going, I don't know how to play this game.
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
I don't know how to connect with people when I'm not being funny. And it requires us almost to get worse before we get better, to feel like we're taking a step backwards before we take a step forwards. The step forwards might ultimately be a far healthier relationship or a far better relationship than anything we've ever experienced. But...
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How To Let Go Of Toxic Love & Attract A Healthy Relationship
we might have to go almost like go back to like learning how to walk again in an area and give up that power we're used to feeling so that we can have something much more rewarding on the other side of it.