Alexis
Appearances
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Love On The Rocks
Hey, she's not the one with a hurt ankle. Yeah, that's right.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Love On The Rocks
Yeah, thank God you didn't really hurt again.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Love On The Rocks
Yeah, you're right. I should have thought about the swimming photo. Obviously, there's the body.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
At least they didn't play doctor.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
Yeah, his intentions are pure.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
Oh, man, not a weirdo and a nutso.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
I'm sure the text board's going to fill up, brother.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
Hey, was that my ex-boyfriend?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
That makes sense. Yeah, there we go. All right. She loves the show.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
We're like a pigeon. You just keep coming around.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
That's usually how those guys get in trouble.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
Excuse me, can we get a loaf of bread?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
It's so annoying when someone's dropping hints for you to obviously ask them, you know?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
Okay, like you were doodling or you were like, let me drop it? While she's talking to you?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
Maybe she thinks you're just kind of random because your attempts at giving her hands were bad. You're not even currently in the band, right? Oh, that's right. This is an old story.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
Oh, this is where she's going to find out.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
You're going to karaoke just the two of you in your apartment? Hey, that sounds fun, Brooke.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
I'm imagining him performing in his garage for his mom. That's the first thought.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
We call you for shout out. That's fine. Yeah.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
That's why dinner was ready? He didn't cook? I'm going to guess it's not his place, Jeff.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pop Some Tags
Then they sat and hung out while you performed. Yeah, why didn't you kick them out?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pre-Block
If she's the one getting paid, why does her credit score matter?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pre-Block
Oh. That could be a fun new segment.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pre-Block
Dude, you don't even know how hard that was for me to finally get it that he was looking for low credit scores. Yeah. The whole time.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pre-Block
That's not happening very often.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pre-Block
Again, our listeners are so nice. We are not blocking people left and right.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pre-Block
Well, yeah, I'm curious. Are you blocked? Are we talking about text, social media? Like, what are you blocked on?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pre-Block
Oh, I walk dogs with guys all the time.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pre-Block
Hey, so it's a good date. Good idea.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pre-Block
But I do make them clean up the dog poop. You don't want to do that in front of them. Why did Jeff look so hopeful when he asked that question?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Pre-Block
It's unmatched. You never know what a right butt cheek can do. Hey, they went on a dog walk.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Boob Tube Experiment
I like the messy ones.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Boob Tube Experiment
Well, I was going to say, it depends on what it is, you know? Like, I require something. Okay. But, like, money's preferred.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: He Saw What He Saw
Because we're Jacob's friend, and we're defending Jacob.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: He Saw What He Saw
That's so insulting to call him your friend.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: He Saw What He Saw
You're going to delay your wedding a year so that your current boyfriend can get over you? So that he can go to the wedding? I have never heard of that.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: He Saw What He Saw
I would hope. Oh, maybe they just finished watching Love Island. A lot of gossip.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: He Saw What He Saw
Always at the bar, just casually putting on my friend's wedding ring.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: He Saw What He Saw
Don't blame him. I can't believe you did this on the radio. Maybe you shouldn't have been cheating. Yeah.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: A.I Fail
Is the teeth something an orthodontist could fix? Yeah. An AI orthodontist.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: A.I Fail
I don't know. Wait. Did the scrapbook have your next date planned so you know where you should go?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: A.I Fail
Not the worst, but I definitely remember getting gift cards once and they were empty. No way. I went to spend them, and I was with a bunch of friends. I was like, yeah, yeah. And they were like, there's no credit on this.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: A.I Fail
Oh, I could actually use an umbrella. That's kind of nice. No, it's my memory of her. Don't take it from me.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: A.I Fail
Yeah, I saw one from Soph King that said, it's crazy how my sister used to make me listen to you guys in the car, and I thought you guys were annoying. And now I listen every day.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: A.I Fail
And I think it's hand wash only, too. It is.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: A.I Fail
I mean, you did kind of bail it in.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: A.I Fail
It goes to the request folder, so you just have to see it. Or the hidden requests, or just the blocked area.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: A.I Fail
Okay. You're saying you match. Like, you just follow each other without ever, like, she's just a random person on Insta? Yeah, you don't match on Insta.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: A.I Fail
So it was meant to be a joke. Okay, that's good. It was going for funny, not.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: A.I Fail
So did she run from the apartment? Yeah.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: A.I Fail
You can tickle yourself. And laugh.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Awkward Tuesday: A.I Fail
Maybe just do I'm funny on that one. Just say you're a nerd again.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
It literally says flammable on every aerosol can.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
No. Like a reservation?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
Be careful, be careful.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
No, that is not smart.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
Just swat, I think, for security.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
What up, man? Some people take years. Some people take weeks.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
He's like, I've broken up with a building before. Yeah, yeah. I know when it's a good thing.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
It's good to admit that you've made mistakes. If she's like, you did this and this, and you fixed those, then maybe she will want you back.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
That's what normal girlfriends are like, though, right?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
That bro, me and my bros, yo, dog, you look super cute right now. Get over here, homie.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
The fact that there is three is kind of like... There's a lot. I know there's more, but I just mean... Okay.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
Okay, you just sound like a fun guy. To me, you sound like one of my friends.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
Okay. There's like zero fire.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
Didn't a producer boy tell you to say that? Because honestly, you would never say that on your own.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Frat Man's Last Stand
That's what I'm saying. How do people even do that? I think after a month it's fair game.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Textual Healing: Hot Teacher Nick
Oh, yeah, that's a good one.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Textual Healing: Hot Teacher Nick
This is a con. I'm conning you to get the Delano painting. We can do this together.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Textual Healing: Hot Teacher Nick
It's got to be the janitor.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Textual Healing: Hot Teacher Nick
It's getting stronger and stronger.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Exes Have Layers
Nobody wants to board that ship.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Exes Have Layers
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Exes Have Layers
I broke a fork in here today, too. I'm not even kidding.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Exes Have Layers
It's coming up next. That's it.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Exes Have Layers
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Exes Have Layers
Yeah, I was going to say probably the one who had the visa expired.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Say Yes To The Ex: Exes Have Layers
Considering she said she didn't like it, probably not.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Zoe, will you ask your mom for us, please?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
They'll turn this into a movie. We will be a part of Hollywood someday.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Oh, you did something desperate?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Oh. That's a good, catchy phrase there.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
That's actually great because then you can see, like when you see them in real life, then you know it's them.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
But you're right, Jose.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
No, Jeff, don't bring a photo around with you. You just know in your head. Okay, wait, wait, wait.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
She's asking you about you, but then she's drawing the lady of your soul.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
What are you going to throw it away?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
You fill in the crack for me.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
What was her reaction, though? Did she laugh?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Maybe you have Android because that happens and you sent in and it got blurry. Oh, God. Green bubble? Yeah.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
That's good. Don't do what other guys do. Just keep texting.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Yeah, I mean, you need closure, man.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Closure from what? He met his soulmate, Brooke, and she's ghosting him.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
The best three songs of his life.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Let's say she'll give us answers.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Yes, Jeff. I haven't seen her yet.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
That's the point. I'm not an artist. It was the heavens that just guided my hand. Exactly. Fine. Go with it.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Yeah, that's true.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
I promise I will keep trying to be positive.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Hey, Zoe. Good morning, Zoe. How you doing?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Yeah, that's a great point, Brooke.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Oh, she's still into it, and she saw the picture?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Oh, guys, we did it. We found the soulmate. It's the mom. Oh, my God. Brooke, why aren't you cheering with me?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
Here's my offer. Give me a kiss on the cheek.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
You do not have to ask. The station has never checked and been like, I don't want to be on Noah's bad side either. Okay, okay.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
Don't do it, Jeff.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
Yeah, I could still be asleep right now.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
You weren't, like, splashing around, but you were just vibing, having some drinks. Yeah.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
Were you in your bikini, though?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
You're playing everything right so far. Like, I think it's spontaneous. It's flirty. It's chill. It's flirty. I love it. I want to go on a date with you.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
There you go, bro.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
So maybe she didn't want the cheek kiss, huh?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
No. You're not as welcome. Yeah. I was looking for Forever 21. Yeah.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
It's just It's true, but that's a different cheek
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
So it surprised you. Okay. Interesting. We thought that may be it.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
You still hear those words together a lot. Psychic aunt.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
She's more powerful.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Whack Beach Wedding
Yeah, Brooke likes bad boys.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
Whoa. And you went out with a guy? Does your engaged fiancé know about this? Probably. It's kind of a funny story.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
Dude, that's, like, such a stereotype. People say the best place to meet a chick. Do they really say that? Yeah, well, I don't know why, but they say that.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
That's hot, dude. The timing was this.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
I just meant it's a good sign that she's comfortable enough to come to your place and be alone.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
Wait, you guys didn't fool around?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
That's a dramatic way to leave. Whoa. Whoa.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
Like, she just doesn't know how to say.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
Yeah. Or it's just a trail. Like, oh, wait, I left it at home.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
We're so jaded. You're right. Cause I think that's polite. I'm like, oh, that's nice of her to reject you. It is that she sent a text. But she ditched him into his face.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
Yeah, that's a good point, too. It's not like you hung out multiple times.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
And you took her line?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
Why am I not upset?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
Oh, that he didn't pick that up? They watched the whole movie.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Secret Mission
I'd be so scared if I got a group phone call. Yeah.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update Classic: Dino Drunkfest
It's a four-hour radio show. You can listen anywhere.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: High Stakes Higher Stacks
I'm just a dumb guy.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: High Stakes Higher Stacks
All the different guys.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: High Stakes Higher Stacks
I don't know what that means.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: High Stakes Higher Stacks
You don't need a sick dog.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: High Stakes Higher Stacks
I was like, you're getting paid for it.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: High Stakes Higher Stacks
Yeah, the woman gets to choose who you end up with. You don't get a choice.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
And that's also good to know. We can't give out people's info, guys. People do ask because they'll be like, I want to take out Amy. I'd love to treat her, but we just can't do that.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
You didn't say that out loud, right?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
All right. Sometimes I do see couples and I'm like, wow, she's gorgeous. How did he pull her? No, I'm wondering, do girls do this? And in their head, it's like a charity case.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
Yeah, just don't ask me. I don't want to know. Yeah, weird. Alexis didn't answer.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
What? Immediately, that was his response to you? That's not even a good review of the date.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
Okay, you want to know something? This guy may be a huge player. This feels like the perfect line.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
My dad's pretty much dead right now. I'll see you later. Gotta go meet up.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
At one point, she was shocked that he was confident in talking to her.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
You're saying it factually, not like a brag.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
I want photos. Okay. To compare. Don't you get under her skin.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
That's a good idea, Jeff.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
Also, let's hope he holds a conversation. We're going to talk to him on the radio.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
Okay, good call. Okay, so wait. I'm confused, though. No, Jeff.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh
You finally dated a guy who's used to dating hot girls like this. Okay. So she found someone who outgained her.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: First Date Redate
He may serve a strong drink.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: First Date Redate
She's coming around. She's admitted, yeah, he's a pretty good kisser. Yeah, when I'm drunk, I guess. But we're going to get her a third time.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: First Date Redate
I do like two first dates, though.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: First Date Redate
Brooke is right. Girls love being a little bit of mean. So you did get a date. How did you pivot?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: First Date Redate
What button did you unbutton first?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: First Date Redate
That's true. She could just be like, yeah, it was just a fun.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: First Date Redate
What do we do? Just go, okay, remember last time? Have you reconsidered?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: First Date Redate
We should get her to talk about this last date and what her impression was, right?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: First Date Redate
Will she answer? Is this going to work out?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: First Date Redate
He was the hey boo boo, how you doing?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: First Date Redate
We heard the second time was way smoother than the first.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: First Date Redate
You know he's a good kisser.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: First Date Redate
Dude, all you need is a bed situation and you kind of have a mobile home at this point. Yeah. Come party, have a drink.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
All right, sing Take Me Out to the Ball Game in three, two, one.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
I don't even know that she ever knew that that song happened.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
For that song, yeah.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
They were.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
I knew we were going to open that gate.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
Oh, yeah. That is so cool. I have met so many Latino people that have talked to me and been like, we started listening, and we've learned English.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
There's just a lot of Spanish men that can help as well that are fluent.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
There you go.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
We're like 30 seconds in, Jeff.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
By the way, we have a live ratings meter. We didn't know.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
So, wait, you're, like, attributing, like, that you believed everything in her bio, everything in your bio is legit, and everything checked out?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
Eye-roll. Eye-rollish isn't good.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
Brooke's mad. This is going to be a thing now.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
I'm laughing at Brooke. It is so funny. I wish you could see her. Maybe the guy's a little bit
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
Hey, good morning. Hi. Not address what she just said.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
Yeah, we're pretty viral.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Don't Take Me Out To The Ballgame
No, it's chill. You can always, like, scroll up if you don't want to watch them.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Red Flaggy Much?
Well, it's just like, what are you doing to do the same thing?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Red Flaggy Much?
Hey, I just got canceled on by two guys. Oh, Lexi.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Red Flaggy Much?
So you're really helping. You're in a hoodie and donating area. Yeah. Era. Era. You got it. You got it.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Red Flaggy Much?
Oh. You cut off your friend? Lame.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Red Flaggy Much?
You didn't need to mention the second part.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Red Flaggy Much?
Maybe a hot bocce ball player came into her work. Watch out.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Red Flaggy Much?
And maybe he'll make plans the other days that you say you can't.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Red Flaggy Much?
Maybe that's why his hygiene is so good. He has got time for it. He showers. I mean, you don't want to date someone who wants to hang out every single day sometimes. They need to have a life.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: That Name Sounds Familiar
What's one that we got? All right. I got to read Matthews who said, y'all asked and I'm going to answer it. They asked, which toe is your favorite? I'm cringing while typing this. I've never even thought of a favorite.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: That Name Sounds Familiar
Really? Wouldn't it be the big toe? Doesn't that help your balance? My pinkies are a little weird from running, so I might have to go big toe.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: That Name Sounds Familiar
It's longer than the other ones. Do we think we lost or gained listeners? I don't know.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: That Name Sounds Familiar
Yeah, I do like toe talk.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: That Name Sounds Familiar
I feel like that's an important step because otherwise the app, you don't open it. You know, you don't reply. I don't check this.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: That Name Sounds Familiar
That's a good difference.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: That Name Sounds Familiar
Like, are you confusing girls?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: That Name Sounds Familiar
I do like sports.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: That Name Sounds Familiar
I enjoy the halftimes in the game, Jeff.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: That Name Sounds Familiar
If you like Pilates or not.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: That Name Sounds Familiar
Was he in a coma for a year and a half, and he doesn't remember? When he told us he went from the app to that, he met a year and a half ago?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Dragon Thumbs and Aroma Chums
Oh, I love Steak and Shake.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Dragon Thumbs and Aroma Chums
Rubber ducks. Yes.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Dragon Thumbs and Aroma Chums
That's good.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Dragon Thumbs and Aroma Chums
I think that's sweet.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: 3rd Times A Yawn
Beg him? You're asking her to plead after he turned her down?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: 3rd Times A Yawn
Oh, bro. You reject her? After one date?
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
left lane so not the fast lane but the next one over and I'm going and weirdly even though it's probably a Tuesday or Wednesday night there's not really anybody else on the road which is great because I just want to get home. I'm going, and all of a sudden, out of the corner of my eye, I see a... It was either tan or silver, little four-door sedan going sideways across the freeway.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
So from my right to the left, cutting across, and this all happens... Within a matter of seconds, but it feels like it's in slow motion, I...
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
turn the wheel super fast and swerve into the fast lane and luckily there was nobody there because otherwise i would have hit them i swerve this person cuts across the front of my car hits the center median and starts spinning and they start spinning clockwise towards my car and There's a brief moment where I see the person inside the car. Like, I see their eyes. In that moment...
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
My brain was just trying to process what is happening because, A, when is there ever somebody driving sideways on the freeway or any street, for that matter? And so there's the moment of kind of puzzling realization, like, wait, there's something traveling in front of my car going in a perpendicular direction to where they should be going. I'm going 70 miles an hour.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
So regardless, if somebody had like swerved into my lane, I still have to slam on the brakes. And... They hit the wall and they start spinning towards me in this counterclockwise way. And again, I don't know how quickly or how slowly this was happening, but it definitely felt like it was happening really slowly. Like I can see the car rotating towards me and...
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
The way the light was, because it's, you know, 1230, one o'clock at night, there's a few overhead street lamps, but not super well lit. So I can only really see a silhouette of a person. I couldn't really see anything. their face.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
I honestly don't even really know what they looked like, but I just saw a kind of like reflection of their eyes for a second as they were spinning towards me counterclockwise. And we kind of had this passing moment where I looked at them and I can see them looking back at me. And I can only imagine how terrifying that would be. I mean, it was terrifying for me being in that situation.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
And it just felt like, a dream, but it was absolutely not a dream. You know, I had not been drinking. There is no way that this wasn't real, but it felt like this should not be happening. And then seeing them spin so close to my car and just be a couple inches away, like I should have hit them. And I didn't.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
And them spinning off diagonally backwards towards the opposite side of the freeway and smashing against the wall. I just was in shock. I was frozen. I was maybe five inches away from dying.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
I think if it was not fatal in that moment, they were definitely very critically injured because they were traveling. I mean, I have no gauge of how fast they would have been traveling into like the center median, but I mean, fast enough that or with such force that it ricocheted across the entire freeway.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
And it's like, that doesn't seem like it's that big of a distance, but that's kind of a big distance. There was like six lanes in this freeway, you know, the 405. So when they hit the center divider or the median and then spun away and then hit the opposite wall, it was kind of hard to see from that distance because they were kind of far away from me at that point.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
I mean, definitely the way they hit was their passenger side smashed up against the wall, like perpendicular to the car. And so it was like that whole side was crunched in. I didn't see if there was a passenger or not. So I don't know about that. But just the force of which they hit both of those walls was, I would be surprised if they were not in critical condition or it was potentially fatal.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
As soon as this happens, I pause for a few moments and I see somebody else pull up behind them and they're checking on them. So my thoughts are just like, I need to go home right now. There is... that dark burning rubber smell just in my nose. My eyes are welling up with tears, not from crying, but just because my eyes are so open. I've been holding my eyes open so hard that it's like...
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
They feel windblasted. And my back is sore from bracing so hard and ripping the back of my dress. And I just feel like a computer that's getting rebooted or something. I have no thoughts other than, I need to go home right now. And so I just slowly press on the gas and I can feel how uneven my tires are. I probably should not have driven home, but I was just one track mind.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
I just need to go home right now. It's 1, 1.30 in the morning at this point. I just need to go. And So I'm driving. I don't know how fast I'm going at this point, but, you know, steady enough that I'm just trying to get home quickly, but also my tires are pretty messed up.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
I'm going for, you know, maybe 10 or 15 minutes and no music, no nothing, just staring straight ahead, just hoping for the best. Luckily, there's not really anybody else on the road at this point. The only two other cars that I saw on the road were were either the crashed car or the person who pulled up behind it.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
And after I drove away from the scene, it was just me by myself on this six-lane freeway, totally alone. But all of a sudden, I notice kind of out of the corner of my eye, towards the passenger side, out of my right, a black hearse pulls up, not in the lane closest to me on my right, but the next one over. And it's kind of one of those, like,
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
classic black hearses with, you know, the swirls on the side. And that's not that unusual, I guess. But the fact that I didn't see it before this moment, I didn't see it in my rearview mirror. It just kind of pulled up alongside of me. And it matched my pace. Like it was going at the same speed that I was going. And I pull up a little bit and I look into the driver's side of the car.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
And it looks like something out of an 80s movie. It's another one of these moments where I'm like, am I actually seeing this? The driver's side window is glowing neon green with this kind of fog emanating from it. And there's a figure in the driver's seat that is wearing a black hood, black gloves. And I turn to look around.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
at this figure and I'm staring at it for a few moments and then it turns and looks at me and it has a skull face like that is literally the Grim Reaper and it's not a mask. The skull looked real. I mean, as somebody who has seen real human skulls in my life,
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
again it's you know one lane over in a car but texturally you know you can tell that it's like smooth but rounded not like a mask would be flat texture looks Like bone, not rubber. It's not like a rubber Halloween mask. And the sockets, if it was a mask and they were painted black, you would have the reflection of the light off of it. the gloss of the paint on the inside of the mask.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
But this, it was like the opposite of light, devoid of light. Almost like a velvet black, if that makes sense. More than anything else, I think what made it feel real and still makes it feel real to me is the feeling I got when this thing looked back at me. You know, it's facing front, it's driving, and then turns and looks at me.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
And it's just this, even though there are no eyes there, it's like this knowing look. And the skull face, there's no emotion to it, but you can feel there's almost this like smugness about it. And that is what scared me. And I have this... kind of sting in my chest and, you know, that rush of adrenaline of this thing looking at me and the feeling of, like, I almost got you. You could have been it.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
Hi, my name is Alexis. I am 34. I am an event producer and a drag performer and currently live in Portland, Oregon with my partner and my two cats, Weegee and Lemmy. I grew up in Orange County, California, specifically Laguna Niguel.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
Like, this could have been it. And, like, I know... Yes, it could have been a person in a costume or whatever. Like, people have hearses. I almost bought a hearse for myself when I was young. But at the same time, this is 1, 1.30 in the morning.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
Tuesday or Wednesday night in like May or June, there's no reason that a person should be there at this time, especially with this glowing green light and weird fog coming out of the car. And I know the descriptor of saying it was, like, an 80s movie maybe makes it seem less credible, but that's honestly what it felt like. Like, in that moment, I was like, what?
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
Like, this seems like a scene out of a movie is, like, what it felt like. It was like this... is too artfully staged to be something that's happening in front of me right now, but it is really happening, is what it felt like. Because this happened so quickly, I mean, this is probably a few seconds,
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
All I really saw was just the face and then the way it was turned because it was like both hands are on the steering wheel, all black with this black hood. And it's turning over its, I guess, left shoulder to look at me. I really only saw the face and then the hood. And then because of this, like, green light and smoke, those were the things that really stood out the most.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
A real... Yeah, this is not a guy in a costume. Like, a... I am a performer, so I know what costumes look like. And also, being someone who was obsessed with Halloween since I was a little kid, I have seen my fair share of skeleton costumes or skull masks. And also, I've seen real dead bodies and real skeletons, so I know what that looks like. And
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
I mean, if you close your eyes and you imagine what the Grim Reaper looks like, like that is what I saw. And, you know, like your natural inclination when you see a cool car on the road is you want to look into the driver's window and be like, oh, who's driving that cool car? Who's driving this hearse in the middle of the night on the freeway that just appeared? And yeah, not only...
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
Was it the Grim Reaper or, you know, something that looked just like what you would imagine the Grim Reaper, but also there's this glowing green smoke in the car that if you were a person, you would not be able to see or breathe with the amount of smoke that was in there. I mean, it wasn't, like, just, you know, a cool ambiance light, like...
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
It was a brand new track home with white picket fence, ocean blue carpeting, two stories with a beautiful garden in the backyard that kind of butted up to a steep hill with walking trails. I was an only child, so I definitely was left to my own devices a lot of times. I spent a lot of time with my maternal grandmother, who's an artist, but otherwise a lot of time just kind of playing by myself.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
It was like if you had a fog machine, like an industrial fog machine in your car and, you know, was blasting it, you know, full amount and there's glowing green light in there and you're driving. Like, I don't think that's something that a... person would do.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
Or if you were a person, I do not think that you would get very far or driving on the freeway, you know, 60 plus miles an hour, probably not great. After I have that moment where I'm looking into the car and... This figure is looking back at me. I speed up, you know, I'm maybe looking for like five or 10 seconds and I speed up because I just want to move past this.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
You know, I have this really intense feeling. looking at this skull figure and I need to go. And so I speed up and I am watching the hearse in my rear view mirror and I can see the figure still with like both hands on the steering wheel, the skull face, the glowing green and this kind of fog that's filling up the front part of the car in the windshield. And I...
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
look back at the road, and then I look back into the rear view, and, you know, a few moments had passed, but then the car was gone. It just was there one moment, and then it was gone. wasn't behind me. It wasn't in any of the lanes on either side of me. It was just gone. And there was, it was not close enough to an exit that somebody could have gotten off an exit. There was no exit nearby.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
So it was just gone. This was probably the most intense thing that has happened to me personally. I think I've been through a with other people but as far as something happening to me personally this by far was and continues to be the most intense and definitely the closest I've ever been to a really dangerous situation. I have never had any kind of hallucinations.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
I've never seen anything like that before or since. I was completely sober and very lucid when this happened. Obviously made it home, but I remember I just kind of put myself to bed. I was so kind of just drained. I feel like the best word was just drained. Like I had nothing left in me.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
And also the dread of having to try to explain to my mom and my stepdad that I had just ruined all four of my tires and And having to deal with that the next day, I did not tell them about what had happened with this like hearse skull Grim Reaper figure. I mean, I told them about the accident, but, you know, I didn't know if they would believe me.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
And so, yeah, I just went to bed and then had to try to deal with the car the next day. I don't think that, like, the Grim Reaper is a real entity or being. I feel like it was more so, like, an omen. Because to me, it's like, I don't know. I mean, maybe it was somebody kind of shepherding the spirit of that other person away, like, if they did die in that moment. But...
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
To me, what it felt like was more of a warning. Like, this could have been you. This could have been really bad. This could have been the end, is what I felt in that moment when this figure was staring back at me. And I... It was definitely just kind of confirmation that there is something else out there.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
But also, even though it was scary in the moment, kind of felt like maybe someone was looking out for me. Because, you know, this car was only a couple inches away from me when it was spinning towards me. It should have hit me. I should have hit this other car. And I didn't for whatever reason. So I kind of feel like... whatever this thing was that I saw, it was more mischievous.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
And like I was saying, kind of like smug rather than like being malicious. It was just kind of like, that could have been you, but you missed it just narrowly. So overall, I mean, I think it definitely... Makes me grateful that I'm here and that something You know, didn't happen to me in that moment. I wish that I knew what happened to the other person.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
My dad was a senior deputy coroner investigator for the Orange County Sheriff's Department. So as a kid, my understanding of that was he goes out and finds dead bodies. And his specialty was solving unidentified or John or Jane Doe cases. And he was always really good with computers, building them from scratch in his free time.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
I am irritated because there's one photo of me from this event that had popped up in my, like, Facebook memories a few months ago. And I have been trying to find it so I could try to track down exactly what day this was. and try to look it up. But again, this is 2013 that this happened and I'm sure there's been a billion car accidents since then.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
I mean, I hope that person is okay, but I don't know. Overall, I guess just kind of, you know, nothing is guaranteed and something can happen to you in a split second, any moment. So you just kind of got to Appreciate what you have while you have it. It's been 10 years since this happened. I think revisiting it, it definitely is a reminder both figuratively and literally to slow down. I...
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
I am somebody that is very ambitious and I have a lot of things that I want to accomplish in my life that I haven't done yet. And I always feel like I have to go faster and I have to do more and I always have to be busy. But if you're going so fast, you can't enjoy your life, then there's kind of not a point. I might live to be 90 or I might just live until the end of the day today.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
But I just have to, A, have a sense of humor and B, just really appreciate the things around me and the people that are in my life and not get so caught up in feeling like I need to go fast all the time.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
And so he was essentially the IT department before they had an IT department. And he went on to create the John and Jane Doe online database. Because there wasn't a way for other counties or states to quickly cross-reference, you know, if somebody went missing in one state and they found, you know, an unidentified body in another state.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
So this way they could kind of communicate with each other or even within the same state. And they even did a KCAL 9 special on him. And I think it was like 1999 or 2000 called Detective of Death, which I thought was really funny when I was a kid. He had a really great sense of humor. He also taught classes at the Corners Academy there on identification.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
And he would be talking about tissue samples and walking around with a specimen jar in his hand and while doing the lecture, reach into the jar and take a bite. It was full of beef jerky, of course, not actual human flesh. That was kind of his personality. But I know it was really draining on him.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
The investigators are usually the ones who have to go in and tell families that their loved ones are deceased. And doing that day in and day out definitely takes a toll. I know he would take like two showers a day just to wash off kind of the smell of death. I didn't realize at the time that because of that anxiety and stress, he was a really high-functioning alcoholic.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
But that definitely came into play later on in our life. And then my mom was a night shift ER nurse. So kind of between the two of them at the dinner table, lots of times it would be like, how was your day, honey? And talking about brains being splattered on the ceiling or some kind of weird metal object stuck in somebody's orifices. And that was just kind of normal for me.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
So I didn't really know any different. My parents were not religious and we were definitely like a X-Files household because this was, you know, early 90s. Watched a lot of horror movies and sci-fi. Also like ER and Law and Order, which I thought was funny considering that was basically their jobs. So they would get off work and then watch what they just did all day.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
As I got older, when I was in middle school, my parents got divorced when I was 10. And my dad was teaching. He would sometimes ask my opinion on slides. And it was like, oh, should I use this picture or this picture? And it's a picture of like...
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
a woman decomposing in a bathtub and it's like dad um i know this is normal for you but probably inappropriate to show to like an 11 year old like it's one thing to hear about something because you know again we watched a lot of horror movies growing up and so you can kind of distance yourself from that but if you're seeing like crime scene photos actual crime scene photos
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
It's not special effects. You know, it's not... I mean, you know that that's not real. But when you see real pictures, when you smell the smells, it becomes more real. And also just the heaviness of it. Like I was saying, you know, it definitely... affected my dad in a pretty significant way.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
Just the heaviness of having to tell people that, you know, your brother, your mom, your husband, somebody is gone. And sometimes it was by their own hand. Sometimes it was an accident. So feeling that kind of like secondhand heaviness definitely made it more real. And, you know, ultimately... My dad died from alcohol-related issues at 52.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
So he was really young, but he just, you know, couldn't shake it. And it's a lot for somebody to deal with. I guess, like, since I had a handful of pretty impactful kind of paranormal things that happened to me when I was a kid that really stuck with me because both of the, like, kind of big things that happened happened right before my parents got divorced.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
So I feel like the house was pretty charged at that time. And then after my parents got divorced, my mom moved up to Lake Arrowhead to kind of run away. And my dad moved in with my grandparents, his parents. And my mom continued to be a nurse, but she kind of moved more into admin rather than bedside nursing, which was good for her. I think she needed a break.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
But my dad stayed at the coroner's office for... several more years. And I... You know, going through middle school and high school, I kind of went back and forth between them after my mom had moved back to Orange County. And... I have gone several times to the sheriff's department. You know, I would go visit or I would attend events and things like that.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
But as I got older and especially as my dad's alcoholism got worse, I tried to spend more time at my mom's house just because I grew up being really close to my dad and it was really hard to be around him like that. So when I graduated from high school, went to college, went to community college, and then I transferred up to Cal State Long Beach. And I was living out of the house at that point.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
And so my priorities had kind of shifted into my schooling. I went to school for creative nonfiction and poetry. And So I still saw my dad, but he unfortunately was forced to take early retirement because of his alcohol issues. And after that, his health went pretty downhill. So again, it was really hard for me to see him like that. So I had kind of distanced myself until he...
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
passed away in 2012. He had collapsed outside of an ATM and essentially had put himself into an alcohol-induced coma. And I was 21, and I had to be the one to kind of make a decision on what was going to happen. with him. And because of his past working at the coroner's office, I knew he would not want to be a vegetable.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
I knew he would not want people at the coroner's office to have to come out and deal with his body, like he would be so embarrassed by that. And so we had to make the decision about, you know, his end of life. And it was, it was something that was a long time coming, but it was also really sudden and I was still pretty young. And so that was really hard.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
So that happened, and then very shortly thereafter, my cousin, who was only six months older than me, he was 22, he went to Taco Tuesday with his friends. He had just graduated from college. He was coming home, and his heart stopped. And he died. And that was really shocking because we had no prior indication there was anything wrong. He had just been snowboarding. He, you know, was very active.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
But we found out later that there is a genetic heart mutation that runs on my mom's side of the family that... My grandma, who recently passed away, she has or had, and my cousin had it and didn't know. And because of that, he had an enlarged heart from like a virus and just dropped dead, which was... really scary and shocking. And because he was so young and otherwise so healthy.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
So that really kind of changed my outlook on life. And I always thought like, I need to just make it past 22. And I also have this genetic mutation, which I found out pretty recently. So nothing is guaranteed. And you just have to appreciate your life while you have it.
Otherworld
Episode 120: The Final Visitor
So just losing my dad and then my cousin, and shortly thereafter having a health scare with my mom, all within like four months, I... was really just trying to have a fresh start and figure out what I wanted to do with my life. I found a online magazine that was hiring and essentially needed an everything person.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
So I was going to be helping write articles and work on a radio show and go to events up in LA and Orange County and San Diego. So I was 22. This is 2013, summertime, probably May or June. And my editor and I had gone to a art gallery opening up in Hollywood. And I was living in Orange County back at my mom and stepdad's house at the time. So I was driving an hour and a half, two hours each way.
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Episode 120: The Final Visitor
When the event was over at about 12.30 or 1 in the morning, I had to drive back home. I think it was on the 405, if I remember correctly. But I got in my little black 2008 Suzuki Forenza, had my iPod plugged in, and was going maybe 70-ish miles an hour driving home. And I was in the second most...
The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya
Are You Happy Now? with Trixie and Katya
And I'm Darby.
The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya
Are You Happy Now? with Trixie and Katya
I'm so glad you asked. In my homosexual opinion.
The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya
Are You Happy Now? with Trixie and Katya
Yes, and we also want to hear all of your stories. Maybe there's a situation you've been put in and you just don't know how to get out of it. Well, we'll get you out of anything.
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Are You Happy Now? with Trixie and Katya
Yeah, I need to know about that. I would actually love to hear about that. Alexis and I, we are professional podcasters. We've made all the podcast charts. And now we're ready to make your podcast hearts. Okay. We know you need a new podcast to be obsessed with. And what's more obsessive than two drag queens talking into microphones?
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Anywhere you get your podcasts.
The Oprah Podcast
Dr. Bruce Perry
Thank you so much for having me. Thank you. Yeah, a little bit about my story is both of my parents struggled with addiction. And unfortunately, that landed myself and my brother in the foster system. And it was a cruel home. It wasn't a place where they were nurturing or caring for either one of us. Often we would get punished with food.
The Oprah Podcast
Dr. Bruce Perry
And when we did get fed, we'd get fed squash and that would be it. And that really created a lot of instability, not feeling safe, you know, abandonment from my parents' side, abandonment from people that were supposed to protect and care for me. Yeah. And that just really kind of took off when we did get to go back home with our mom. Being in Vermont, it is predominantly white.
The Oprah Podcast
Dr. Bruce Perry
So I was, you know, the only black girl there. In my town, one of four. And I remember just being bullied in school, which further validated that I wasn't worthy and I wasn't lovable. And I quickly learned how to just blend into the background and become a people pleaser and just care for other people, you know, without asking for anything.
The Oprah Podcast
Dr. Bruce Perry
Yeah, well, first I realized that it wasn't my fault. I think from being so young, I didn't really realize that my environments and circumstances had nothing to do with me. It had everything to do with external parties. And so for me, it was really understanding when I was in different environments, how my body was physically reacting to things. I had really heightened anxiety all of the time.
The Oprah Podcast
Dr. Bruce Perry
I had panic attacks. You know, I've had over 10 surgeries, and most of the time, they were always undiagnosed and unknown reasons as to why these things were physically manifesting in my body.
The Oprah Podcast
Dr. Bruce Perry
And I later found out one partly because of this book, which was the beautiful part of being in therapy and using this book was that I got to understand the why behind most of it versus just kind of working through what I experienced. So I thought that was a really beautiful way to kind of tie things together and really understand what was going on within me.
The Oprah Podcast
Dr. Bruce Perry
Your question for Dr. Perry? How do we rebuild trust within ourselves and others after we've really lived a lifetime of feeling dismissed, ignored, and being harmed?
The Viall Files
E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Oh, no.
The Viall Files
E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
But also hasn't she been known to hate Jay-Z? Yeah. My whole thing is that I'm like, what is this like? Stay with your chest, though. Yeah, but I'm like, if someone's going to hack you, you think the only thing they're going to go do is like a post from ABC7 Chicago about your daughter's husband?
The Viall Files
E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
There's not like stories. There's not like things being exposed. When people used to hack.
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Yeah. No.
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Yeah. And I feel like we see that like all the time where people are like go back and I think they just like don't realize that other people can see or that your name might come up if you're closely associated with whoever's looking at that same post. So it's like I don't think that she had the wherewithal to think like, oh, anybody could see it or like think twice about it.
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She might have just double tapped and think about it. But. It's hard for me to believe that I'm like with a post with Diddy the day after these accusations that you were like, ABC7 Chicago? Yeah.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
That got so many people in trouble, ruined so many relationships that needed to be ruined though. Yeah.
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They also did a whole family photo at the Mufasa.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
She claimed Jay-Z told her to get plastic surgery when she first signed to his record label, Roc Nation.
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Yeah, she just said that that was the first thing that he said to her. once she signed. I wonder what plastic surgery.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Who's JR?
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Oh, I have my own theory on him, but okay, okay. Do you want to get into the ultimatum?
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Can I just say, and I'll just stand on my own on this, but I feel like I was gaslit by Scottie. So was I. So was I. This episode going in, I'm like, this is not giving sarcasm. This is not giving we're on the same page.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
The storming around the apartment, not saying anything, not answering any questions, but throwing those like death stares at her. I was like, over a silly rumor. Over a rumor that he's not even your friend.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
My whole thing is that this is where I get confused with the show because I'm like, are you getting mad at her for texting her actual boyfriend that she wants to propose to her?
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
And then it's like him getting, being upset about her talking to her partner. And you're just like, You don't. This has been two days that you guys have been in this trial marriage. She owes you nothing.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
And then Zayn is telling him exactly what he needs to work on. He's like, no, you're wrong.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
But again, like the whole thing is just so weird to me because I'm like, is he wrong for that? That's the woman he wants to marry. And he's like, dude, you've been sitting here having another relationship. I'm by myself and you're not giving me anything. And I feel like JR and Sandy are taking this experiment to a whole nother level that none of the other couples are.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Like everybody else understood the assignment. And they're like, well, like, am I leaving with you or am I leaving with my partner?
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Literally kissed him twice in one night.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
That's dark.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Yeah. Oh, she was out.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Jones on Ventura Place.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Yeah, it is giving man help.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I'm out that the audience isn't in on either. Like that was the thing. It was like, it felt like the prank was on us.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
You know, clean the rain gutters. Come on.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Not only that, she doubled down and then she took some of the audio and made her own reel.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I have 400 meetings while she's ordering a Corona on a lounge chair on a beach.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
No, I agree with you. She's intimidating. When she first came on where it was like her and Kyle and it was like, are you the mother? She seems genuinely frightened of you.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Yeah, now we got the rebrand of like happy-go-lucky, which I'm here for.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I'm so curious. I can't wait to find out.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I love it.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I love it.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I think he's a nephew. Yeah. Isn't he like Donnie's nephew? He's Tom Sandoval.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I think she would, but I definitely saw a video of her and Kathy singing.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
But Michael, you watch this man buy a $15,000 motorcycle that he drove twice that didn't have a license. How do you think he spends?
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I have a question. The Vanderpump revamp is happening. You're pissed.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
What do you think it's going to take for that show to even be good?
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Club owner.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Well, and Megan's pregnant, so they just announced that recently. So that's why we're like, well, what is going on?
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Well, I thought your comedy special was hysterical. Oh, thank you. And apparently everybody else agrees with me because congratulations on top 10. Thank you.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Really?
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Wow. That is a thoughtful gift. I haven't whittled a thing.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
See, I would want the grill.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I was like, we don't even know what term she's in. By like third term, she probably will be back together.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Just like a one and done.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
The pandemic made it more comfortable to say no.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
After the fact. And then we got like so used to being like, no, no, no, no, no. And then now it's like, maybe I could have, I would want to go to bed.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
And I was like, this is New York. Sunset Boulevard on a weekend, ghost town. Yeah. And it used to be thriving.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
The two drink special stands.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Yeah, they're drunk no matter what.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I mean, he's got everybody in his Rolodex.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I think they just messed up by like, carrying on season 12 or season 13 of Roni. They should have been like Real Housewives of Manhattan and then maybe there wouldn't be expectations for them to fill the shoes of the OGs.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Real Housewives of Bushwick.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Yeah, because you're not giving me what Ramona and Sonya and the chaos of, like, you're not giving us that. So it's like, this isn't really a continuation. This feels like a 180. Yeah.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
She also thought it was funny. She made a reel about it where she's like, I've got 400 meetings and it's her ordering a Corona on the beach.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I want to say the interview was like 20 minutes and like it was just chaos the entire time and like that's what I want for my housewife.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
It makes me so sad I was not here yet. I was just starting right after that.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Well, dude, you showed up like hours late to his podcast. So, you know. Yeah. Yeah.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
Or like abbreviate it. So it's like Sir Rules or Pump Rules versus like Vanderpump Rules Season 13.
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I don't know. I also feel like it depends. Like, if you love, like, filmmaking, cinematography, I mean, there's just so many cool elements. Yeah, that go into it.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
The shots were seamless. There's just so much going on.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
They built out that entire set too. So it's like one of those things that when you know those facts, you're like looking at things and being like, wow, that's incredible.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I'm straight and I spent my whole day yesterday watching the bootleg version of somebody filming the original cast. I did watch the bootleg.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
I did see a commercial for TikTok while I was watching television this weekend. So I'm like, it doesn't feel like they're going anywhere.
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E854 - Kathy Hilton's Christmas Party, Michael Rapaport, Fortune Feimster, The Ultimatum, and RHOBH
point that's the point that's so evil there have been dating rumors she's a creative director for sports illustrated she is a victoria's secret model employed by she dated canadian soccer player colin novak if you listen closely enough i can hear a publicist getting fired right now yeah um yeah you can't make up stories about somebody whose entire life is on tiktok
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Wow. Isn't that insane? But also saying that her daughter is in the house and doesn't know what to do. Should she leave? Should she go upstairs and hide?
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She's just standing there and calling her mom waiting for the call back being like, do I leave? Do I stay? And he's playing a football game.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
I am being pressured into getting an abortion and I kind of need help sifting through some of the emotional manipulations flying my way and figuring out how to deal with the baby daddy going forward.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
I've decided to not get an abortion, so I don't need help with that part.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
The dad and also his family, his mom specifically.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
We were seeing each other, not in an official relationship, but like
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
exclusively sleeping together for a few months okay um i have very fond feelings towards him um i think we had a really lovely connection um but he was not willing to be in a relationship and i wanted more and so we kind of ended it and then like a couple months later hooked up a couple of times i was thinking maybe i can just separate my feelings from this and then i got pregnant okay
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
Yeah, I definitely wasn't planning to be pregnant at this stage. I had very much other plans.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
But I like continuing my education overseas, potentially.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
I am not really worried about that. I mean, I think it would be lovely to have that kind of career. I think it will still be possible for me in the future if I really committed to it. I think once I found out I was pregnant, like after processing it for a few weeks, it kind of just felt a lot less important to do that stuff right now than to have this baby.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
So I don't see it as like I'm giving up all of my hopes and dreams to do this. I kind of think it would be a detour for sure. The one thing is I did want to have a family and like with a loving partner and such. And this is kind of also not exactly how I pictured it, but I just don't see it as like I need to decide between all of that.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
Yeah. So he, um, kind of a major part of this is he has an illness that, um, is preventing him from doing a lot of the stuff that he wants to do and would also prevent him from being the kind of father that he would want to be right now.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
I don't really want to go into the specifics of it, but basically like he's trying to figure out where to live his life and how to live his life so that he can heal. Um, so his immediate plan was to try to move somewhere different, um, which might help him or just be more exciting to him. He's kind of a flighty person. He's always moved from place to place. He's avoided relationships.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
it is unclear um it doesn't seem to be like fatal in the immediate term um but it definitely impedes a lot of what he's able to do on a daily basis they're kind of still it's a fairly new thing and they're looking for solutions to it but it's not not really clear right now okay and why can't he be the dad he wants to be Yeah, so I think it's a mixture of he can't and he doesn't want to be.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
To be honest, like he can't provide financially, which is okay. Like I have a job and I also have a strong support system who will be able to support me physically, financially and emotionally if need be. And the other thing is he feels like raising a baby, like with all of the exhaustion that goes with it and like the commitment.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
will be a detriment to him like a part of this is extreme fatigue and he can get exhausted like very easily just from a conversation with someone so he is worried about that aspect of it even though I'm not asking him to like stay up nights and like take care of the crying baby I'm kind of like he has enough energy to have sex that's a fair point yeah he does
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
So she came in kind of after I told him that I've made a decision and I would really like appreciate it if he would stop pressuring me so I can focus on reducing my stress. Yeah. She reached out to me the next day and asked if she could talk to me. And then we had like an hour and a half long conversation where she said some really diabolical stuff.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
um like what that this is like extremely cruel and selfish and i would just be if i had this baby i would just be like shattering so many lives like pieces of broken glass and that is a crazy thing to say uh they also both have implied that i am at fault for getting myself pregnant and of course you know well yeah of course yeah yeah
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
And that I it's really fucked up that I didn't sit him down and tell him that I probably wouldn't want to have an abortion if I got pregnant unexpectedly. Like that is a huge thing that they both keep bringing up.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
that there's a chance I wouldn't wanna have an abortion if I got pregnant.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
No, no. He just gave it no thoughts. He assumed that anyone he sleeps with like would automatically be willing to get an abortion.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
yeah i guess that's like part of what i'm struggling with a little bit because i keep being told by him that this is super selfish because he doesn't want it and his opinion should matter just as much as mine since it's just as much his baby as it is mine and he doesn't want his baby to like grow up without a father and obviously all his friends agree with him that it's super fucked up that i would do this and
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
Yeah. And for also inflicting the trauma on the child of not having a father that's around, which is his choice.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
Yeah, that's kind of more or less the last thing that I said to him about this matter. And he responded in a really, like,
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
aggressive not aggressive but just like inflammatory way um but i do feel i do strongly believe that he's like a very kind and compassionate person i'm sure he is time this will kind of fizzle out this anger hopefully i don't know i feel like maybe he'll be always resentful of me that's we we don't know you can certainly be hopeful i wouldn't make any of your decisions based off your hope but yeah
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
So like going forward throughout, I would say this pregnancy and beyond, how do you think I should approach him if he does decide to be in my life? I mean, there's a good chance he won't because the last thing also he said to me was, well, not the last thing, but he did very firmly say, like, if you get an abortion, I'll be there with you and support you and I'll be by your side.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
And if you don't, then our friendship, quote unquote, is over because I can't support this. But if he does change his mind about that and he doesn't want to stay in my life, which I think he might, I would really love to cultivate a good relationship with him without allowing him to guilt me about this stuff.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
Yeah, it's hard to find the balance of he says these things to me and then I feel like I have to defend myself a little bit. And then that really stresses me out.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
It's hard to draw the line between defending myself and not responding at all.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
Thankfully, there's only like a week left where he can even keep trying to convince me. It'll be too late after that. So that'll probably change the dynamic a little bit. But yeah, that sounds like a plan.
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E863 Ask Nick - My Best Friend’s Affair
Yeah, absolutely. All right. Well, thank you.
Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!
WWDTM: Sterling K. Brown
So I'm the mom to 10-year-old twins, which is a thing.
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WWDTM: Sterling K. Brown
And I run a nonprofit that builds affordable housing and helps small businesses. That's great.
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WWDTM: Sterling K. Brown
Hi, this is Alexis Breitnacher calling from Cummington, Massachusetts.
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WWDTM: Amber Maykut
Well, Choice B does just sound like dating in Chicago, and as a single person, I understand. But I think I'll have to go with Doyelle.
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WWDTM: Amber Maykut
It sounds very plausible, like somebody would do it. It sounds like it's already a scheme, but I will have to go with Joyelle.
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WWDTM: Amber Maykut
I've done it. It's no big deal. I'm not a new thing.
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WWDTM: Amber Maykut
Hi, Peter. Hi, who's this? Alexis from Chicago. Chicago? All right. Thank you.