Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Thu, 17 Apr 2025
Jase lets slip that even his best Bible study couldn’t keep a special in-studio guest awake. The guys tackle tough questions about the nature of offense when it comes to Jesus’ teachings, and Jase wonders whether Hebrews hints at the possibility of time travel. Zach opens up about the powerful final night he spent with his mom, and the guys explore how the cross remakes the Tree of Life and what it means to truly live in God's favor. In this episode: John 6; John 17, verse 3; Hebrews 12, verses 1-3; Matthew 6, verses 9-15; Exodus 33, verse 13 “Unashamed” Episode 1072 is sponsored by: https://myphdweightloss.com — Find out how Al is finally losing weight! Schedule your one-on-one consultation today by visiting the website or calling 864-644-1900. https://tnusa.com/unashamed — Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit the website for more details. https://preborn.com/unashamed — Click the link or dial #250 and use keyword BABY to donate today. https://donewithdebt.com — Start building the life you deserve and talk with one of their strategists today. It’s FREE! Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What happened during the podcast that involved a dog?
We didn't talk about that, but we had seven people and a dog. Yeah. And look, I just want to say this. About halfway through the last podcast we did, I heard this sound, and I thought, there's one of these guys who are snoring. I heard it too. During our podcast. I was wondering if it showed up.
Could people hear it? No, the audience couldn't hear it. I could hear it through my house.
I could hear it. And so I didn't want to look because I thought, are we that boring? I just didn't want to look, but it kept getting louder and louder. And finally I said, I've got to find who's snoring. Yes. So when I look, then I realize it's the dog. We literally put the dog to sleep. Which made me realize, you know, this dog doesn't have a demon or anything. It's just perfectly comfortable.
It's being a dog.
So, yeah, there was a couple from Arizona that I met at church, and they were here passing through him. Their dog, they named after Sadie, our Sadie, because the dog's name is Sadie.
I think it's like one of these. It's a service dog. Service dog, yeah.
So you can't critique it at all. No. If you're a service dog, that's like you can't say, I mean, that is like.
That's right.
Protected status there.
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Chapter 2: How does offense relate to Jesus' teachings?
And then we ran out of time.
Yeah, and you just introduced the thought, give us this day our daily bread. Because we're talking about bread and John 6. We're talking about bread and John 6.
Well, what fascinated me.
And I know some of our listeners are like, Jace, you never tied that point on.
The cliffhanger was he makes a statement. Because look, Al, I told you when you brought this up before we started that I forgot the cliffhanger moment.
Which is bad when you lead us to a cliffhanger and then you forget what you were going to tell us.
This is like watching one of those old soap operas that my grandma used to watch.
You know what she would call them? She said, I'm going to watch my stories.
Yeah, and then you forget what the payoff was. It was more a kind of Bible nerd discovery. And what I mean by that is when you start studying this intensely and looking at the original language, sometimes you stumble upon something that you're kind of like, hmm. So when he prayed, so this is Matthew 6, he said, this then is how you should pray. Our Father in heaven. Hallowed be your name.
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Chapter 3: What are the insights from John 6?
On earth.
Like what? Just like it is in heaven. So what does that mean? Heaven and earth coming together. And so where this all kind of fits into what we've talked about a lot is the The place where that happens in the Old Testament, where heaven and earth come together, where is it? It's the temple. So the whole thing is still like this temple language. Even in John 6, you're seeing this temple language.
And I think there's kind of controversy around John 6 sometimes because there's some phrases in the hair that Jesus says that I think are, I don't think they're very difficult to understand, but they get into big theological debates about it. And I don't think it's necessary.
But he was – you think about it, Zach. God was already showing the early forefathers of Judaism –
before there was a nation and before there was a temple by establishing a tabernacle that wherever you go, I'm there, which was the whole point of the manna and all the other stuff was like, you're looking at what you're picking up and putting in the basket, but you're not looking at the one who's raining it from heaven.
It's easy to miss that, which is right in front of you, which is why I'm glad Jason went back to this text because I've missed it before. I've looked at that as always like, well, yeah, well, You know, God's concerned about our daily sustenance. And again, doing just what they were doing, putting it only in the context of what I'm physically eating.
If you think about it, that doesn't even work in the context. You know Jesus meant more because you don't have to eat every day. We know we can go days without eating. Yeah.
I mean, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, we're not thinking big enough. That was my cliffhanging moment that Jesus would later kind of throw bread under the bus.
Which is interesting when he goes out and doesn't eat for 40 days. And then Satan shows up, and the first thing he says is, oh, you look like you're hungry. Why don't you turn these stones into bread? And he says, hey, the bread of life, you know, the words of God is all I need. That's where he went. What does he say? Man doesn't live on bread alone.
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Chapter 4: What is the significance of the Lord's Prayer?
Yeah, Zach. I mean, there's certainly been times in my and Lisa's life when debt has so crushed us that not only could we not think about investing, we're trying to figure out how we're just going to go month to month and pay our bills.
Yeah, so I would advise you guys to start building the life that you deserve. Visit donewithdebt.com and talk to one of their strategists. It's free. Go to donewithdebt.com. That's donewithdebt.com. And the way that that plays out is that as we ingest Christ, as we eat and consume Christ, then that blessing is transformed back into thankfulness and praise and adoration for him.
And I think that that's the part that we experience. That's the now, and it's the not yet. I actually have my Bible, Jace. It's so funny you read that, Hebrews 11, 39. And when you were reading it, I was thinking that.
I actually had this note written in my Bible, and this is my note around Hebrews 11, 39, which it reads, and all these things, I'm sorry, and all these though commended through their faith, all the heroes of the faith, did not receive what was promised since God has provided something better for us that apart from us, They should not be made perfect. So we'll do this together.
And the note I have in my Bible is, I call it the surpassing of the threshold of God's kingdom glory. This is the already, not yet. More specifically, the not yet that will be realized in the kingdom to come. So we're hanging on to that. And so when you move on to that very next verse, it gives us the motivation.
It actually gives us the motivation for hanging on when it gives us Christ as the identity. He says, And sin, which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith. And here's the part that I want to finish with. Who for the joy. For what? For the joy. Who for the joy. What was the motivation?
For the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising its shame. and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God. So Jesus suffered on the cross. He said, what was his motivation? There was a joy that was set before Christ that was his motivation for the endurance of suffering on the cross. He said, so what should our motivation be for suffering? For the joy that's set before us.
Well, what is that joy? And that joy is that we are going to be one with God. We are one with God because of what's called the finished work of Christ and what he did on the cross. Christ had that in mind. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life. That's the joy. He had something in mind.
What did he have in mind? Union with his creation. That's Genesis.
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