Jill
Appearances
The Dr. John Delony Show
How Do I Tell My Wife to Get off Her Phone?
I'm 32. Man, you know. I know. So what's the hang up? Give me a 10 second hang up.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
55: Stories from Run Reigate runners as they crossed the finish line, the big Redhill Arts Takeover week… and more
Yeah.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
55: Stories from Run Reigate runners as they crossed the finish line, the big Redhill Arts Takeover week… and more
We've been training since May for this. Alice is only 13, so she's done an amazing job today. And kept me going as well. We helped each other through that. The last hill, definitely. It's really steep. That last hill is, yeah, it's like nothing else. We come from Mercedon, yeah.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
55: Stories from Run Reigate runners as they crossed the finish line, the big Redhill Arts Takeover week… and more
I did it in 2021, but it was Alice's first time.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
55: Stories from Run Reigate runners as they crossed the finish line, the big Redhill Arts Takeover week… and more
Yeah, we're hoping to do the 10k at some point. It's amazing. She was talking about this at the beginning of the race and she's still talking about it at the end. So, yeah, no, that's always a good sign.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
45: Awards for 700+ years of local volunteering… and more
My name's Jill Twombly and I'm St John Ambulance, which I've enjoyed doing. I mean, it's not like work, you know, you've got to do it, but it's my hobby, as I can say.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
45: Awards for 700+ years of local volunteering… and more
It's 60 years this year.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
45: Awards for 700+ years of local volunteering… and more
Well, I started off as a president of Redhill Cadets, the then cadet officer of the county for the nursing cadets, the girls, because the girls and the boys were separated then. She said to me, when are you going to come and help me out by doing the county? And I said, yes, I will at the right time. And in those days, we did a lot of training with the police in Redhill again.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
45: Awards for 700+ years of local volunteering… and more
And she said, I'll take you around the county visiting all the young people. And then she did this and then she said, I'm retiring next week. I was in it. Didn't have a choice. But it's been fun. No, it's lovely. It's a lovely organisation. And then I became a deputy commissioner for youth. And then what did I do next? Gosh, such a long time ago. I became a deputy commissioner for the county.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
45: Awards for 700+ years of local volunteering… and more
And the commissioner was commuting between Yorkshire and here for his work. And I thought, well, I'm really not doing anything. So I said, please, can I go back and look after the youth? because he gave me a job. And I took over from him when he'd done his six years. It's a lovely organisation. The people are lovely. I've loved it. I love meeting the people. That's me. I'm a people person.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
45: Awards for 700+ years of local volunteering… and more
So you get to know them, you visit them, and you become friends with them.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
45: Awards for 700+ years of local volunteering… and more
Yes, particularly we help the ambulance side and the older cadets are working in hospitals, you know, for the weekend.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
45: Awards for 700+ years of local volunteering… and more
I find that it's a certain type of person. They're a very caring sort of person and love being around people. And also they have to work hard because getting your first aid certificate isn't a matter of just reading a book and saying, I've done it. They have to be tested. The young people are doing more and more work.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
45: Awards for 700+ years of local volunteering… and more
of the type of work that the adults are doing on duty mind you they are trained for it so and then most of those will go on to nursing or medicine it's lovely seeing them come back and they're they're a doctor or something and when we do the derby you get a lot of doctors will come back and help us and they're ex-cadets so you know which is lovely
The Planet Reigate Podcast
45: Awards for 700+ years of local volunteering… and more
I love these occasions, actually, because just the number of people here. It's nice to see some Redhill and Hawley, Reigate and Banstead.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
If you want something to really sustain you or you want to truly survive, one of my dad's friends used to say that every time we'd say, how are you doing? And he had kind of gone the celebrate recovery route. So his radical life outside of Jesus was pretty much with the same velocity, I guess, as his coming to Christ.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
But every time I'd ask him how he was doing, he'd say, I'm just trying to survive. Which we always laughed, but really when you start reading this, I mean, Jesus is survival. You're not at threat to lose anything inside of Jesus. Now I look back on the statement thinking, that's a little low.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
I mean, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, we're not thinking big enough. That was my cliffhanging moment that Jesus would later kind of throw bread under the bus.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
You're leaving out the real, real word. She sent us some real cheese. Real cheese. From Wisconsin.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
I mean, that— I think that's where you'll get the disagreement, because some people, they don't think people do that. They don't say, I'm done. Yeah. So, which they get in, I think they use some of the verses in John 6 to get there, which, I mean, we're eventually going to have to just read it.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
It basically comes down to this argument. Is the difference in knowing about Jesus? You can know about cheese, and there are products out there that say, It looks like cheese. But when you come to know cheese, real cheese, and you see where I'm headed with this. Y'all are working for cheese that spoils. No, that's the biblical type.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
I think it comes down to just us having a hard time realizing that God is using people despite their flaws.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
to show that he does reveal himself on the earth. I mean, last night I saw there was, you know, TV. Let's face it, most of it is junk. And all of a sudden, old Tebow was doing a commercial. So I stopped what I was doing. I actually didn't even have the volume on. The TV was just background. I turned it up.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
And I only saw it once, but it was basically he was showing, like, people in pain and kids that had some form of, you know, suffering that was obvious. And he was like, you created the universe. you know, has, he uses people. And if you realize that you've been sent from God with a purpose, you'll run these people in need. It was just like, join us.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Yeah. Because I thought that, because people's big question is, well, how come there's so much suffering in the world if there's a God? And, and, I mean, there's no God. Look at what's happening. And well, here was a guy who used to play football for Florida using this platform saying, yeah, that's why we're here. God is intervening.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
You know, not only did he send Jesus, he's not oblivious of suffering. He entered it. as a man and participated in it. And conquered it.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
And passed the test. But when you kind of look at the Old Testament history, what he's trying to get them to bridge the gap is, look, you see, there was a bunch of shadows everywhere. that was predicting me coming here. And you start thinking about Moses and Noah and Abraham and even Job. You have this one person that God has chosen to reveal a way to survive. And have hope and promise.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
And even though all of them eventually didn't pass the test, they either did something really stupid that you're like, boy, they did something great, and then they did something stupid. Or they died. Like Job, I mean, eventually he got all his blessings back, but at the end of the day, he died. And that was it. And it moved on. And he still lost all his kids.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
This is the same difference in knowing about Jesus and knowing Jesus.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
But you see now Jesus, and it makes me think of that verse in 2 Corinthians 5 when it says, for when he died, Jesus, all died. He basically made God through the one, chosen one, his own son, allowed everybody to die to their old self and By him dying for forgiveness. Because he passed the test, which we just mentioned, the temptation by the evil one. Well, he passed that test.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Every other person that was a human failed that test at some point. And so you're thinking, okay, well, let's give him an award, a ceremony. And no, he winds up dying. So the rest of us could die to our old selves and live. I mean, that's what 2 Corinthians basically 5 says. And then he now uses us.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
as ambassadors for him, which is why we're running to the pains and the problems and the suffering. And so, and you know, you say, well, you're not doing the miracles that he was doing because that was a sign to show who he is.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Yeah, we're the image of God. We're supposed to be reflecting God's presence.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
I think it's a good point. But I do think that there's nothing wrong with the point of, are you going to trust what God said or you want to go out on your own? I mean, I agree, but they were also, it came down to that.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Test or trust. But believe what?
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Romans 8. Yeah. Which is how you operate. I'm glad you brought this up. Because I think when you brought up Hebrews 11 earlier, that really explains it. To me, the best, because somebody asked me one time in a Q&A after I had spoken, did Jesus time travel? And I was like, can you be more specific? But it was basically in this previous story that we read when they were in the boat.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
And it says immediately it reached its destination after he walked on the water. Have you ever thought about that? Yeah. Nobody ever talks about it because it seems weird. It's kind of like when Philip and the Ethiopian eunuch He, you know, he shared about Jesus from Isaiah. He was reading it, and he taught him about Jesus. Then he's like, stop the chariot.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
And they found some water out in the middle of nowhere, baptized him, baptized him. And the eunuch went on his way rejoicing. And then it says... Philip was basically teletransported to somewhere else. It's like, whoa, what was that? Was that time travel? So that was the basic part of the question. I'm just giving you the context because I think it's an interesting thought.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Where I went to answer the question was Hebrews 11. Because, so I'll go through all of the, Moses, Abraham, kind of what Jesus is doing here. You know, remember Moses, wrote about me, but you're not believing that? And then he gets to the last verse, and I'm going to tie this in with what Jill just said. And then it says in verse, what is it, 39? Yeah, the last verse.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
These were all commended for their faith, which what is faith? Trust and believing and being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. This trusting. They were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. God had planned something better for us so that they only together with us would be made perfect.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
And I was like, the time travel thing was Jesus' – God's grace through Jesus went backwards and forwards, which I was trying to be kind of coy, I guess. Just saying, look, his – What Jesus did on the cross and the resurrection, that saved people before, presently, and after. It was like a time travel moment, which is maybe why we count time by Jesus.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
But then the next verse, which shouldn't be a break there, but it gets to chapter 12, and it says, Well, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, so now all these people... He's referring to present form as in, oh, they're not dead. I mean, even though they're dead, the past.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily untangles, which you mentioned about the evil one using that against us. And let us run with perseverance, the race marked out for us. And let us fix our eyes on Jesus. Mm-hmm.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
which is what this is really being made in the image of him, looking at him saying, oh, this is the gift from heaven for everyone before, during, and after that we'll be. I mean, I think that's kind of the main point, which is why you're going back to the garden, and I agree. I really think Jesus on the cross, which was made from a tree,
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
was actually the new creation symbolic of the choice of, look at this tree of life. I mean, the tree of Jesus' death actually became the tree of life once again that would be eternal.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
John Six has been quite the study. I actually didn't study last night because my brain was hurting from doing the podcast with you yesterday. Yeah.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Well, that's why I'm making that illustration about the cross. That is the fruit that God is offering on a tree, which is his son. And you eat of that. It's like a return to the tree of life that was keeping them alive. Yeah.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
We didn't talk about that, but we had seven people and a dog. Yeah. And look, I just want to say this. About halfway through the last podcast we did, I heard this sound, and I thought, there's one of these guys who are snoring. I heard it too. During our podcast. I was wondering if it showed up.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
I could hear it. And so I didn't want to look because I thought, are we that boring? I just didn't want to look, but it kept getting louder and louder. And finally I said, I've got to find who's snoring. Yes. So when I look, then I realize it's the dog. We literally put the dog to sleep. Which made me realize, you know, this dog doesn't have a demon or anything. It's just perfectly comfortable.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
You need a different kind of bread, which is why I went to that Matthew 6 because it was like, This is about your existence. You're an eternal. That's why he's using eternal life here. But in prayer, it was the same concept.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
I was kind of happy because I thought, I got home yesterday and I told Missy, I was like, oh, we had some fireworks on the podcast. And it turned into a marital counseling thing. And I was like, the biggest takeaway I had is, babe, there's a way it could be worse for us.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
I think the practical question is, what is a day in your life without Jesus?
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
That's a good question.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
It's a waste. It's a waste. It's a waste. And you're wasting... You know, the food that he's giving you. Well, and we're out of time. I know. I actually wanted to read the text, but maybe we've talked about it so much that the next time we can read it. Jill's got a clause.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
It's being a dog.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
I think it's like one of these. It's a service dog. Service dog, yeah.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
I remember the encounter. I walked up. I mean, they were just standing there. Yeah. We kind of had a nod, a nod, and it started getting awkward. He couldn't speak. I said, I'm Jace, and they nodded. And I thought, okay, welcome to Louisiana. And then I said, I need to ask them something to get them to speak. And so I said, where are you from? Yeah. One of them said Arizona.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
That's why when I saw them, which was surprising to me because I'd slept since then.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
I walked in. I said Arizona because that's the only word they said. It was an awkward encounter, but I didn't. They're listening, so we're glad you guys are here.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
We're trying to bring the nations together. That'll preach there. That'll preach. I'm considering California its own nation. I'm actually doing an event there. I'll give you details later.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Well, Al, you brought to my attention that we had left a cliffhanger that's still tottering. Yeah. On the Cliff, many podcasts ago.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
And then we ran out of time.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Well, what fascinated me.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
The cliffhanger was he makes a statement. Because look, Al, I told you when you brought this up before we started that I forgot the cliffhanger moment.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
This is like watching one of those old soap operas that my grandma used to watch.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Yeah, and then you forget what the payoff was. It was more a kind of Bible nerd discovery. And what I mean by that is when you start studying this intensely and looking at the original language, sometimes you stumble upon something that you're kind of like, hmm. So when he prayed, so this is Matthew 6, he said, this then is how you should pray. Our Father in heaven. Hallowed be your name.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
And this prayer kind of has a little heaven-earth thread line, which I brought that up the last podcast. Yeah, we talked about that. John 3, you can only receive what is from heaven. Ten times in John 6, he's like, you need to receive the gift that's come from heaven. And they're like, well, what is the gift?
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
And so when you read back to the prayer of Matthew 6, when he says, your kingdom come, your will be done, well, here's this phrase again, on earth as it is in heaven. And there's a lot of religious people that are viewing this As a future occurrence. Yeah, waiting. Still waiting. But you start thinking, well, Jesus came to earth. Well, where did he come from?
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
He's making the point, I came from heaven. Remember when he was before Pilate? He was like, my kingdom is not from here. And so you start reading this and you start thinking, I think Jesus came for this earth, from heaven. And so he says that, but then he says this phrase, give us today our daily bread.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Bread, which doesn't look like a strange statement, but that word daily, it's the only time it's used in the New Testament. Whatever that word is, I'm terrible at pronouncing Greek word, but you can look it up. And to do that, I've told you many times. Yeah, just put in Matthew 6, 11. Maybe I should do that while we're doing it, which is a good thing.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
So I'm going to put Matthew 6, 11, Greek lexicon. The number one thing that comes up, the top search, is the Bible hub that you said.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
So it says, give us this day our daily bread. So if it breaks down the word in the Greek words, to give, Today, for the coming day or for substance, which is that our daily, it's basically existing. So I'm going to click on that. It's number 1967, our daily. And it's mentioned one time, but it's also mentioned in Luke's, Telling of the same.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Right. So Luke 11, 3 and Matthew 6, 11. That's it. So I started, I'm like, what does this word mean?
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
It's like what is happening, but also what is coming. That sounds a lot like the two stages of the kingdom, right? So the cliffhanger was it makes sense when you hear Jesus say, I am the bread of life. which is a present, past, and future phrase. So that was the cliffhanger I wanted to... It's a lot deeper prayer, because you're praying to the I Am, who is the sustainer.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
It's not just, I hope I get a meal today. So tie-in verses, it immediately makes you think Revelation 1. He's like, I will... I was, I am, and I am to come. You know, those kind of phrases Jesus makes. I'm the Alpha, the Omega.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
That's right.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
But I think that's the trick. That's why it helped me understand John 6. Because I thought, well, he gave a preview in that prayer of what... Because their hearts were hard. I think that's in the Matthew version of the feeding of the 5,000. It throws that phrase in. It's like that they... They couldn't get it.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
And I was uncomfortable when I first read this as a new Christian because I'm like, what's he talking about? We got to eat his flesh and drink his blood? I was reading the verse like literally. And I thought, why would he be making a statement like that? Then I realized that I'm taking the side of the people he's arguing with.
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Ep 1076 | Jase Puts a Dog to Sleep Mid-Show & Why Being Offended by Jesus Is Your Problem
Which is why I came up with that question being so profound. I'm like, if I'm being offended by something that I'm reading that Jesus is saying, the problem is probably me. Mm-hmm. So maybe I need to dig a little deeper. So I thought that was helpful. You know, and that's just a, I'm scratching the hem of that cliffhanger. But it was a profound thing.