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Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. Jason, on the last podcast, you talked about doing a lot of... extraneous sounding things with heavy duck blinds and launching boats. And I was just curious. So how do you feel? How do you physically feel today?

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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Matty, keep a running tally on amazing names. Yeah, we'll have a lot of those. That'd be an interesting little name search on where that came from.

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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Get it? All right. We need to read it more. Speaking of Bible, Jase, since we know Mr. Bible is listening to our podcast.

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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Seriously, just me telling you that? That's exactly right. We're surrounded by water. I mean, you want people that are out there monitoring the water to be Bible men.

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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What if you were an atheist and your name was Bible? That'd be a tough, you'd be a conflicted individual. I'm not sure it's possible. Yeah, it'd be weird. All right, so we want to get back into the Bible. Zach, do you want to do that? Or you got any words of wisdom? You got any moments to share with us? I got nothing better than John 7. Well, this is breaking news.

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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We are. And it's a fantastic text as well. But we explain why we spent so much time on John 6. But we're going to take that next step in terms of where Jesus is headed. And so I guess I'll just open up and read these first few verses and then we can kind of get into the discussion. Because it's really interesting.

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This is the first time in the book of John that we kind of get a look at his earthly family other than his mom. who, of course, we read about back in John 2.

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Specifically, it does bring up his family in a couple other contexts, but you wasn't sure who exactly that was. But you're right. It's the only time he mentions them specifically is right here. And it wasn't really good for them.

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So one of the things we've always been able to appreciate about mom is she made our home a home. I mean, she cooked for us. She took care of us. You know, she made sure we got what we needed. Dad was always, you know, in the woods kind of guy. But mom was at the home kind of person. And that's why we love her. And that's why, you know, Mother's Day is special for us.

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Well, we do. And it's from our good friends at Cozy Earth because mom spends a lot of days lounging now. And so we want her to be comfortable and we're getting her something from Cozy Earth because we love it.

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And one more step, James, who is kind of the early sort of main church leader in Acts 15, is the same James that wrote the book of James, most scholars think. And they think that was Jesus' earthly brother as well. So, yeah, I mean, to your point, obviously, something changed them dramatically.

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Ep 1083 | Jase’s Squeals of Pain Frighten the Podcast Crew & Jesus Faces Major Family Drama

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So that's the setting as we go into this. Let me read it and we'll kind of get into this. So it says after this, which is everything we've been talking about for quite a while. Jesus went around in Galilee purposely staying away from Judea, which is where Jerusalem is, by the way, because the Jews there were waiting to take his life.

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So Jesus obviously knows what's going on and it's gotten dangerous. And which you don't think of this like he's hiding because he came here to die. So he knows what's going to happen. It's just not his time yet. for this to happen. That's why it's waiting.

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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Chase, have you ever thought maybe it's doing nothing? Maybe it's just $49.99.

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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Yeah. And none of the rulers of this age understood it.

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And I love the way you tied in the fear there because immediately they were afraid. Remember, that was the first instinct they had. And they hadn't even died yet. They hadn't even seen death yet.

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If you think about it, if you think about it, Zach, the hardest people probably to convince would be the ones who watch you grow up because they know everything about you. And, and what, what in the human vernacular, what we don't understand is maybe being beyond our capabilities. We just call weird.

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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But you know why, Jase? You know why? Because the man has cooked so many big, huge chunks of meat hundreds of times. So he's been through all that.

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Which to your analogy, if somebody understands everything you've ever dealt with and they can give you a solution, that's the guy you want to listen to.

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Ep 1083 | Jase’s Squeals of Pain Frighten the Podcast Crew & Jesus Faces Major Family Drama

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Well, I don't know the number, but you're right. And the reason I know you're right is because they do these PSAs now, these public service announcement videos the government does all the time or state government. about don't text and drive. You arrive alive. Don't text and drive. So you wouldn't have these things going on if there weren't danger associated with what you're talking about.

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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Because I'm not there in studio with you, but what you were describing to men our age, and I'm putting this both together, sounds like it could be a bit taxing.

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Oh, well, you can trust them more than AI because, trust me, they're making some cha-ching.

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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All right. So let me get back to this text. This is why it takes us so long. So that was the first verse of chapter seven. So he's staying there because he knows they want to take his life. Verse 2, but when the Jewish feast of tabernacles was near, Jesus' brothers, so here's the brothers on the scene. Remember, he's home. He's in Galilee.

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Said to him, you ought to leave here and go to Judea so that your disciples may see the miracles you do. No one who wants to become a public figure acts in secret. Since you are doing these things, show yourself to the world. For even his own brothers did not believe in him. which was the point we were making before about where they got to, you know, eventually.

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And, you know, they looked at it almost like we, we talked about this before. It was, it was like, it was a, all of a sudden we had a little marketing strategy broke out among the brothers.

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They're like, well, look, if you, if you want to be a big deal, I mean, I know you got these crowds and you're doing stuff, but if you want to really do it, you got to get out there, you know, you got to press the flesh. You got to get down where the action is in Jerusalem, right?

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Ep 1083 | Jase’s Squeals of Pain Frighten the Podcast Crew & Jesus Faces Major Family Drama

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The Mother's Day is approaching, and Jace, I have to say that when I think about our mom and what a great mom she is, for me, it's even a double blessing because she was 16 years old. and found out she was pregnant with me. And obviously this was unplanned. And she went through what every young girl would go through in this moment. And yet she decided to choose life.

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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Or you can visit preborn.com slash unashamed. That's preborn.com slash unashamed. Well, he's basically telling his brothers, you don't have any skin in the game. That's why you can get along. If you're only trying to be popular. I mean, you know, if you're not going to go against anything, then of course it's easy to do. I thought about, Zach, the line people use today.

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They call it building their brand, you know. And that's the way we talk about it today. And that's what they're telling him. You know, you got to go build that brand. And he's like, no, you're not understanding exactly why I'm here.

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I was just going to say from a practical standpoint, you know, we can't really relate to this in our own lives because our parents, you know, found Christ and then at some point, you know, brought us up in him. And so we didn't. So our family were believers together, you know, for most of our lives. Jason and I was a little bit later to the game. But, you know, we don't have this understanding.

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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What if you're the only one? How many? I mean, I know y'all both have done it. And we've been a part of many people through the years when someone is led to Christ and they're the first one in their family to come to Christ. And they're in a situation where that becomes a negative against them because all of a sudden it's like, well, why are you doing this? Where you're joining some cult?

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Ep 1083 | Jase’s Squeals of Pain Frighten the Podcast Crew & Jesus Faces Major Family Drama

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And I remember, I mean, there's undergo terrible persecution. I mean, we've had Larry Bowles on here talking about people coming out of Islam, you know, in his Athens work. And I mean, where it costs you everything, where they... Take all your stuff back home and burn it, you know, in a pile and say you can never come back here.

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So when I read, you know, verses like this, I realize the courage it takes sometimes in your own family to stand and do the right thing because it's the right thing to do. And Jesus shows a great example of this because, I mean, these are the brothers he grew up with.

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You know, you know, he cared about him, but they didn't even believe he was who he said he was because it's not like he hadn't been talking about it up to now. And so all they're talking about is brand building. And he's like, you guys don't even realize what's going on. Oh, exactly.

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Ep 1083 | Jase’s Squeals of Pain Frighten the Podcast Crew & Jesus Faces Major Family Drama

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Here's what you do. It's called the Feast of the Tabernacles. And there are three major feasts. And you see them all throughout the New Testament, too. And, you know, you had obviously the Feast of the Passover, which is the first one, which was kind of this idea of coming out of Egypt. And that's related because we know this happens when Jesus wants to have given his life.

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in this late springtime right now. We would call it Easter. They would call it the Passover. Then you have this Pentecost, which is 50 days after that, which is just basically saying we're going to bring offerings to God because we've been delivered. That's kind of the concept.

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And then you have this one called the Feast of Tabernacles, which happens at the harvest in the fall, and this is right after the Day of Atonement. So there's three major feasts that all Jewish males had to participate in And that's this third one. And they call it the Feast of Tabernacles or the Feast of... What do they call it?

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Booths, yeah, is what they call it today.

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No, I don't. I would guess it's because they made sure they didn't want to miss the seventh day. It was like the 40 minus one. They were supposed to get 40 lashes. I mean, 39 lashes, but they would say 40 minus one because they did want to make sure and get the wrong number. But I'm just guessing. I don't know.

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Anyway, so we'll look into that, Jase. This was the setting for which... Let me read.

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All right. So we're out of time, but we did move into chapter seven. I'm excited. So we'll pick this up next time in our discussion on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed Podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.

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No, I didn't mean that. I just mean men who have way more years behind them than in front of them. The T is okay.

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The last year, Jase, I had made a – I came up with my own little marketing strategy to lose 60 pounds by the time I turned 60. Some people we know made some wagers. Bets were made. Money was lost. You understand. You were there.

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You do. And so I fell short of my goal. But now that I've turned 60, I have found some people that are helping me get to that goal and more. The folks are PhD weight loss. And Dr. Ashley Lucas is the founder. She's a registered dietitian. She has a PhD program. and sports nutrition and chronic disease.

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But she has a great passion for helping people, but she also is very good at explaining the science behind weight loss, and that's what's helped me a lot. This program teaches you what to eat, when to eat. It works on your relationship with food, and that's going to help me keep it off. for my whole life.

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So here's, here's a picture of me when this first started and I was bold enough to wear a tight t-shirt. So this is me, all of me. Uh, and here I am 16 weeks later, I have now reached the magical number of 50 pounds, still going, got some more to do, but that's happened. Uh, because the good folks at PhD weight loss, there's no gimmicks, no pills, no injections, no terrible side effects.

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You know, you just got to stretch.

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Ep 1079 | Jase Contemplates Taking Back Missy’s Diamond Ring After Discovering Biblical Gemstones

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This is a description of the church. So anyway, now look at verse 11. Of Revelation 21. It shone with the glory of God. Look, its brilliance was like that of a precious jewel. Sound familiar? Isaiah 54. Like a jasper clears crystal, it had a great high wall with 12 gates and 12 angels of the gates. Now, does that sound familiar? How many tribes were there in Israel? Yeah.

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How many disciples did Jesus, I mean, apostles did Jesus pick? Twelve. Twelve seems to be a common theme here. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. Well, that answered that question. That's what we're talking about. All right, so you have all these gates and foundations and the names of the 12 apostles of the Lamb.

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Okay, verse 15, the angel who talked, he had a measuring rod, so he starts measuring this. I'm going to skip down to verse 18. The wall was made of jasper, the city of pure gold as pure as glass, the foundations of the city, they had walls with every kind of precious stone. Now watch. The first foundation was jasper. The second, sapphire. The third, I can't even pronounce it.

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What does your version say? Agate. Agate.

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Well, agate, which is what the same one in Isaiah. The fourth, emerald. The fifth, what do you have as the fifth? Onyx. Onyx. The sixth, carnelian or sardosis. The seventh, chrysolite. Chrysolite. Yeah, the eighth, beryl. What do you have as the ninth and tenth? Topaz. Yeah, that's what I have. Chrysoprase. Yeah. So you have these ten jewels.

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Now, look, there was two things that happened. One, I disagreed with the guy that this is a picture of heaven. I think it's a picture of the church. And I'm going to prove that even further. And number two, in the NIV that I had, it had number six. It had rubies. Bad translation. It's the only translation that has rubies.

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But when I looked up the Greek word, it has that sardosis or what was the one y'all had? Onyx. Yeah. Or maybe I think that was the fifth. Yeah. Maybe it was onyx, but whatever. So here's what the scientist says. This is what the six-minute video is about. And he's telling this fellow.

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streamline, like make it pure, what they call pure light. And he went through this whole thing that was totally on my head about the reason we, you know, light reflects in all kinds of different ways. But they figured out just in the last, you know, few years how to concentrate it.

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And so think the way I understood he had an illustration about wearing sunglasses that were polarized because he called it polarized light. Well, there's, you can... you can get rid of some light through the glasses because you're more focused on one set of light than others, and it actually creates a buffer for the light. So anyway, he went through this whole deal. And so...

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What's fascinating about this, the polarized light, and think laser lights. He also used that. You know, like you have a laser going through space or whatever. We figured out this through technology and all that.

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So what happened was some of these scientists got together who were believers and actually started putting these different kinds of jewels because what people are fascinated in, which is why I believe the NIV got that one translation wrong, Because sardosis is a lot like a ruby in that it's red, but it's like a ruby is a ruby.

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And so you see why they translated that, because they wanted a better jewel. But what's fascinating is these 10 jewels that are mentioned here are not what we in our society view as the best jewels. I mean, if I said what is the best jewel, what's the first thing you think of? Diamond. A diamond. Well, that's enough.

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I don't care. All right. So I had a funny little thing that happened. And speaking of passages in Isaiah that I said I was going to get back to. My son sent me a video and it was like a seven minute video. And he said, what do you think about this? So it was a scientist who was basically breaking down a passage in Revelation 21.

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Because he said what happened under a microscope when you use pure light and you take these jewels and you refine them down and look at it through a microscope using pure light? What they found was when they did all jewels, a lot of the jewels went gray, white, or black, no colors, when you purified the light. And things like diamonds. It just looks, think coal. It looks like coal.

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And he's showing you the pictures of this under a microscope using pure light. But did you know that all 10 of these listed here not only do they become brighter, they all look like a rainbow with colors like becoming almost greater than you could ever imagine.

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I do remember that, because I just remember thinking, why would these people who were eyewitnesses of Jesus...

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What the guy's point was is we just discovered that in the last 50 years.

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You think, well, maybe he just got lucky, you know, which I think he was carried along by the Holy Spirit. But it comes back to what I started to in John 3. When if you're basing it on human eyes, we pick the diamonds, the rubies, the opal. Well, none of these reflect under a microscope with intense light.

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Well, think about all the verses that says, you know, God lives in unapproachable light, you know. And think about, too, where Revelation is going when it says, verse 22 says, I did not see a temple in the city because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. Look at the next verse.

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The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it for the glory of God gives it light and the Lamb is its lamp. So get the picture of what he's really writing. You take these stones that are precious stones, but they're not the ones that we think are the best.

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But when you look at them through the eyes of God's light, his illustration as this is the vision of people that are redeemed by God, they're actually way more beautiful and colorful than you could ever imagine.

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And I was like, but look, the guy missed the whole point because he said, this is the place you're going. So that's why it just went... I was like, no, these are the people.

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This is the people that are described by God being redeemed by the blood of Christ and being transformed into light that becomes even greater than we could ever ask or imagine. And that's the way we're depicted as our eternal dwelling. How did the writer of this revelation have that knowledge?

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And what's also funny about the conversation before I get into that is, you know, Reed was also asking me like, what to tell his mom about, because we're rebuilding our house, which has been a year since our house got hit by a tornado. And I was like, Reed, isn't she there? And he's like, well, yeah, but I'm asking you because I'm pretty sure she's asleep. It was like in the morning.

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Yeah, that's what the manifestation word means. I've noticed that before, too. Which, look, I mean, this is so, I mean, to me, it's so exhilarating. I mean, that's why it was so exciting. I mean, that's how the church, to your point, is being described here.

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No, I agree. That's what stood out to me, too, was the fact that we're not diamonds. It's not the ones we would think, because when you think you're something, you think you're a diamond, you don't think you need God. It's like, to me, that was, they didn't talk about all this. I mean, you got to remember, these are kind of boring scientists that stumbled up on something. Yeah.

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And they weren't even making the points that I thought they should be making. I was like, one thing is this is us. Are you crazy? And another thing, I wrote down some notes because this was obviously over my head on the light part. So the ones that turn gray, black, or white, like the under this intense light, It's called isotropic.

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And just in case you want to research this, the ones that turned into the beautiful rainbows beyond the colors that they even have was called anisotropic. But you know what the process that they called that they didn't even mention to discover this was called? That they call it? It's called cross-polarized light. Because light reflects off so many things. But they call it the cross. You get it?

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The cross. I was like, well, you buried the lead there, dude. I mean, stop. Take a time out on what... You know, how we became new creatures.

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Look, it's the same thing about imaging God that we've been discussing. And when God's kingdom is among the earth now, we're members of it. And the quality that you have as being a representative of the kingdom. And now, I mean, just in light of that, just think of that. I mean, you're whatever jewel you want to be in that list through God's light shining on you.

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Oh, you're way more spectacular than any jewel to the eye out there of the earth on the earth.

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So I think that provides some tension because you were talking about family. Yeah. Because, you know, you have your son rebuilding your house, which you think, oh, that's great that you have a son that can do that. But it's also tense for him. Because you're rebuilding your parents' house.

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Oh, that's why when I asked y'all, had you ever heard this, I knew you hadn't because people, you know, we've given up the rainbow as people of God because they're like, oh, there's another group of people that they've made that their flagship. Yeah. Oh, no, that was God's flagship. And I just read to you, we need to bring it back.

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You need to wake up tomorrow and say, hey, I'm a sapphire set on fire by the pure light of Jesus shining through me. Step back and allow me to burn in front of you. I mean, that was the idea of this Revelation 21. I mean, it's like you've been set on fire in a good way by the pure light of Jesus.

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So the standard has gone up because if anything goes wrong, I realized in the moment what he was actually asking. He was like, the pressure here is about more than I can bear.

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Yeah, that's good. You know what's funny about this video? So I said there was three videos that nobody much has watched. Well, at the end of one of them, they had found a sermon from like 30 or 40 years ago, and it was a clip. And think, you know, like a charismatic preacher. I mean, he was preaching this.

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without any scientific knowledge, but basically saying there was something he had figured out without the scientific research that I shared with you, that he chose lesser jewels because of this principle of God shining the light, which made you brighter. And he didn't even know the research, which I thought was really cool because I thought that's a spirit-filled preacher thing.

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who had figured it out without any scientific research, which I thought, kudos to that guy, tip of the hat. That's why I asked you, had you ever heard this? Had you ever heard this before? I haven't, no. I have not. Oh, well, good. I made a prediction.

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Well, here's the problem now, Al, is like, so I, because my wife's out of town, and so I'm doing this, my son, you know, I sent this to him, and I was like, It made me feel so good that my son found this. despite it not having many views and sending and saying, what do you think about this? Because he wasn't like, oh, this is a great, he was just like, what do you think about this?

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But what hit me was one, I'm really glad my son is sending his dad videos about Bible things saying, what do you think? And number two is it hit me. I thought after I finished all this three hours later, after I went down all these rabbit holes, I thought, how am I going to tell Missy that she needs to throw away this diamond ring that I bought for her?

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Because this is almost a form of, you know, pagan ritualistic worship here.

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Oh, and I had the same thing with my kids, and we actually converted Missy into that same manner. I mean, she will do anything not to wake anybody up, and you don't wake her up. It's just like... I've explained that to little man because he's like, where's Lulu? He calls her Lulu.

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I mean, because I was like, this needs to get out. Of course, look, and I think it goes back to John 6. In that here's Jesus making this illustration. I mean, we went back to Isaiah 54. Now I've already gone back there and picked out another verse and gone to Revelation 21 about this picture of the redeemed, you know, in the afterlife. But.

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Through this, I realized some arguments in that, one, I didn't like how the NIV translated one of them rubies because it made me judge their motives. I thought, oh, because it's more valuable. Because they're looking at it from, in my mind, oh, heaven is expensive. There's streets of gold because that's the same chapter that talks about the streets are paved with gold.

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Well, do you actually think there's going to be gold streets in this country?

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Now, I think it's saying you are streets of gold. It's a depiction of people living, or let me rephrase that. It's God dwelling with streets of gold that he has made that are actually people living. So look, it's fantastic, which makes us go back to John 1. Because look, Al, it kind of changed the way I viewed where we've gone from John 1 up until now.

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Because that's why I said that John 3 popped in my head about everything exposed by the light becomes visible, that it should be visible. resulting in praise to God. But think about John 1 where this started in verse 9 or verse 8. We're talking about John the Baptist's role. And think, look, lesser gem of humanity. Because you look at John, he was out of camel skin and ate bugs.

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And you're not thinking this is a very powerful person, but God used him and actually called him the greatest human ever born. But he said he himself was not the light. He came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.

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And I just think it was so fascinating that some bunch of scientists looking at pure, powerful light reflecting in the gem world that is used in Revelation 21 that all of a sudden becomes under a microscope something way more spectacular than was ever known. Of course, they were only concerned with how did that writer know that, but I've given you all these practical examples

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applications that should just fire up followers of Jesus.

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Yeah, I told my kids. I don't think it's godly. I said, you wake me up. Well, I framed it around when you start providing some of the resources around here. And so we had a rule. I forgot what the exact rule was, but you can only awake me if you're bleeding out of some kind of orifice, have a broken bone. It was something graphic, like you're basically dying.

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Yeah, I actually, at nine years old, bought shrinking dust for humans.

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Exactly. That's why I'm making the point. I realize that, Al, in this process, that I've delayed the finishing of John 6 once again, but I didn't know y'all were going to be this enamored with this. I'm pleasantly surprised. But I was excited about it. But I just want to say that's why we keep harping on you must read the Bible, filtering everything through Jesus. He is the light of the world.

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He does illuminate us. And I'll give you an example of that. When I referenced that 1 Timothy 6 passage, I mean, this thing really came to life after what all we've just talked about, Revelation 21. When 612 of 1 Timothy 6, it says, fight the good fight of the faith.

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Take hold to the eternal life to which you were called, which is really what Revelation 21 is describing, eternity itself with God, you know, in the dwelling with God as people. But here, you know, we fight the good fight. And this encourages us to do that, these facts that we've just talked about.

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But then it goes on to say, when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses, in the sight of God, which is really what that whole experiment by the scientists, they were taking this incredible force of light that would burn a hole right there. You're looking at a gemstone.

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in the sight of God who gives life to everything and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pilate made the good confession, I charge you to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which God will bring about in his own time, which he's eternal. So that's kind of a hot thing to say.

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God, the blessed and only ruler, the King of kings and the Lord of lords. Well, we know who that's talking about, Jesus, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. And that's why it makes sense on these passages that John said, God, the one and only Son, is at the right hand of God, has made him known.

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He's made him available. So when you try to read the Bible, like all the people grumbling and arguing with Jesus in John 6, that's what he was trying to connect. This is about me. I want to illuminate you and let you see this.

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You're Israel's teacher. I think we should give an assignment for the next podcast for our faithful listeners to read Deuteronomy 7. and then chapter 30, and then chapter 32, and then just Google a Deuteronomy overview because that's basically what we're going to do. And I think by doing that, we're going to address some of these arguments.

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You remember a few podcasts ago where we said the modern religious world, they go to John 6 and they have all these arguments that have come out of John chapter 6. And I think we're going to solve a lot of these by reading Deuteronomy The Deuteronomy chapters that we just referenced, and I think a light bulb will come on.

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Okay, so let me talk about this video. Send me the video. I'm not going to send it to you yet because you're going to be – you'll watch it while – While you're explaining it. Zach, I appreciate your transparency, and you're basically owning your vulnerabilities to the world. That's it. But I hate to tell you this. You have ADD before that was a thing.

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I do think from a personal standpoint, too, you know, it's okay to go outside your little camp, which I try not to have a camp outside of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. But it shows you that even though I disagreed with some of their theology, you know, they revealed something that I thought, oh. So I thought, you know, I'm going to make this video go viral, but it'd be better to make our –

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application of being in Jesus go viral because I think that was what was lacking to this discovery. It wasn't applied to a place. It was applied to human beings on the planet, which you are one.

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So you can't say you're not transparent. And look, I think in light of John 3, at the end where it says we bring out our... our failures into the light. Because on the other side of darkness, oh, actually, this is going to go perfect. I didn't do this on purpose with what I'm fixing to talk about. Look, I'm pretty sure.

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Look, I'm pretty sure. Well, now I'm going to read this because it's like ding, ding, ding, ding. The spirit has moved and given me a thought. It's really good. But I want to say something, Zach, because you're one of the smartest people I know. I mean, I don't rank the smart people I know. And I only have a few people. that I hang around with that are really smart.

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And part of my inner circle, which Zach is in that inner circle, because I'm just not real bright. Irony of this word. I'm fixing to talk about light.

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No, that's not true. Well, God has turned the light switch on, but if I can do this, anybody can do it. So what I'm going to try to do here, because I'm pretty sure, even though you're one of the smartest people I know, that you've never heard what I'm fixed to talk about. I've never heard it. You've never heard this. And Al, I don't think you've ever heard this.

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I had never heard this when I watched the video. Now, Zach, he doesn't claim to know all, but he claims to know most. So that's a big thing. I do not. I do not. Well, I'm on a roll today. I hope you're recording all this. That's not true. That's not true. So I want to read this John 3 because this was not part of what I was going to talk about, but the Holy Spirit spoke.

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So in verse 19 where he says, This is the verdict. Light has come into the world, but men love darkness.

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instead of light because their deeds were evil and everyone who does evil hates the light and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed oh this goes perfect with what i'm fixed to share but whoever lives by the truth comes into the light yeah all right this is gonna be awesome we're probably gonna go viral with what i'm fixed to say

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Because look, the video I watch, as spectacular as it was, it hasn't gone viral. There was just a few people that have seen it. I mean, I don't know the number. I could look it up real quick, but it's not that many. And the earliest, and there was three videos, and two of them was by the same guy. Then there was a European guy who, theologically, he didn't get into theology much.

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He did quote a few verses, but... But he wasn't a dynamic speaker. So the one I listened to had the dynamic speech. The problem was his theology, when he got to the end, I did not agree with. I'm just going ahead and saying it because I'm sure some of you are going to look this video up after I'm finished. And so I think he missed the most important thing.

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So I never would recommend the video because I'm like, well, this guy had a wondrous, this science guy had a wondrous discovery that no one seems to know about.

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So that's my lead up to this. And I want to read the Isaiah 54 because I promised on the last podcast I'd do that. And I do want to say that... My son sent this to me, so when I responded to his text, I said, this is awesome. I think I put, I love this in all caps. I said, however, he did miss one vital point about Revelation 21. Okay, so if you read the Isaiah 54 that I purposely skipped over.

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It was verse 12. Yeah. Remember when we read this about... This idea of Israel being God's wife. And look, I want to say something, too, about created in the image of God before the beginning of time. You know, this was God's plan to bring Jesus for those from all nations to be gathered under one head. That is Christ. Think Ephesians 1 or Colossians, you know, says that.

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And so in that light, he's talking about, he's predicting salvation, among other things, reconciliation, everlasting love. We read the verse in John 6 about your children, you'll teach your children, you'll pass this on to your children. I mean, there's hope coming. Well, right in the middle of this in Isaiah 54,

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You know what's hit me, Zach? I finally realized what was the smoking gun to you coming to Jesus. What was that? Isaiah 55, 1. Come. Come all. Come, everyone who thirsts. Come to the waters. Wait for it, Zach. And he who has no money, come buy and eat. Come buy wine and milk without money. Your cheapskate type tendencies actually led you to Jesus because he said, I have bread that costs no money.

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He says in verse 11, O afflicted one, storm-tossed and not comforted, behold, I will set your stones in... This says antimony. I don't even know what that means.

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Turquoise? Okay. And lay your foundation with sapphires... I will make your tentacles of a gate. Well, these are all precious stones. All right? All of your wall of precious stones. Oh, that's what verse 12 says. And then verse 13 says what John...

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quotes jesus as saying from here in isaiah so one of the odds i'm studying this my son sends me this video so here's what the video is about this science guy says he he refers to revelation 21 and i want to read it all right this is this is gonna this is gonna blow your mind

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And I want to just say this right now for you who are just catching up. That Isaiah 54, when he's describing the jewels, he's describing the people of Israel being redeemed in Jesus. Would you all agree?

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The jewels... are representative of the people. So keep that in mind, because when you get to Revelation 21, people who read this lose their mind. And this scientist was saying, look, he said, you know what heaven, here's how he framed it. He said, you know what heaven's going to be like? It's going to be filled with these gemstones, these 12 of them.

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And he read, now I disagreed with that statement, by the way. But, and the reason, well, before I give the reason, I'll go ahead and read the verse. So in verse nine, one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the lamb. Well, does that sound familiar? Does that sound familiar?

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Look, that goes, first we go back to Isaiah. saying that Israel would again be God's bride, but then it also goes to Ephesians 5. We're the bride of Christ because through Jesus dying, being buried and raised, the Spirit being poured out, people responding to Jesus, nations from all under heaven become the bride of Christ. Thank Matthew 28, the Great Commission. All right, we got all that?

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So then let me keep reading. And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain... Great and high and show me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven. Now this scientist, bless his heart, he's fixing to reveal something that is absolutely stunning. However, he has this being depicted as heaven, and I just read that this came out of heaven. And if you go back to the first verse of this,

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In Revelation 21, 1, he saw a new heaven, a new earth, the first earth that passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride, beautifully dressed for her husband. So I'm just asking you, who do you think is talking about? What is this city? It's got to be people. It's got to be people.

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And wrote several books about it. So I'd have to agree with you on that, Jason.

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Did y'all see any groups of drones come in?

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So you never did the, here's the church, here's the steeple.

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You know, I've heard a couple people say that. The first person that I heard ever say that was a man by the name of Stephen. Thank you. He got killed for it. But the man who gave the approval to kill him for saying that ended up saying the same exact thing.

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I mean, think about that. But if you walk in any depth of water in those shoes, they're going to tip your, like you tip your waders, they'll tip the shoes.

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So I'm feeding the ducks every day. The duck commander gave you the job to be the duck keeper. Wow. There's so much irony in that, right? Yeah, exactly. Can't kill them. Don't kill them. Take care of them.

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that could have fast-growing trees. That company is here, Jay. It's FastGrowingTrees.com. Fast Growing Trees is actually the biggest online nursery in the U.S. with thousands of different plants and over 2 million happy customers. I've purchased the Leland Cypress, which are border trees for my yard. Al, what did you pick again?

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Yeah, you want to go change the world, but hey, why don't you start with me?

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It reminds me of, it's actually a quote from Friedrich Nietzsche, who I don't agree with his philosophy, but this is a really brilliant quote. that Eugene Peterson later picked up and wrote a book titled this, Long Obedience in the Same Direction. I think I got that right.

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Long Obedience in the Same Direction, which I think when you think about worship or transformation of the heart, I mean, it's a lifetime. But I love the last night you guys sang a song, which hasn't been released yet, so I guess we can talk about it, but I don't really hear it yet. When does this album come out? Probably close to conference, which is in September.

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But last night, it was the first time that you guys have recorded a live out. So it was like a big production. I don't know how many people fit at the Hub, but it was packed.

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Yeah, you had all the cameras and everything. So it'll be out on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, anywhere. You guys do have music out, which you got a lot of great songs. Let me say this too. When Reeve said that we spoke in, I did not speak into you about music. I had no clue when I was your college pastor that you had this gifting.

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I was shocked, too, because when I heard you were doing it... And you were great. I mean, God was... Well, I thought, let's see what he'd do. I mean, if you're going to do it, do it right. Don't get some local guy to do it.

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That's going to be something in the future. I planted a seed today. Are you on social media, by the way? Do you not do it?

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So he has no social media. He's against the grain. Which is hilarious to me because he's like a young guy. He's anti-social media. But if you do get on Instagram, that's your handle, TheDuckShepherd. That'll be your handle. Born right here on the Unashamed podcast. Someone's going to grab that.

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Yeah. Well, I wanted to say last night, though, the songs were a whole lot about like the first. I love the flow of the evening because it was a lot of songs about our relationship to Christ, meaning how he loves us, which is part of the story, right? I mean, I know a lot of times we get like worship leaders get flack for singing songs that aren't all exhausting.

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But there are a lot of psalms that are about how God responds to us. But I love how you ended it. Because you ended it with a response back to God. I'd love to hear kind of what y'all are thinking. Did y'all intentionally put the evening together in that capacity?

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One author said it best. He said to be disruptive is actually to be quiet, to be a non-anxious presence. And I think that's like so true for our time that, People do get exhausted. You get exhausted with, you know, I think that's a generation, too, coming out of social media. Like you're looking and everything is big, big, big, big, big, big.

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It's defined. I love how Paul defines worship. He broadens the definition. Off of your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God. This is your spiritual act of worship. It's not limited to the Sunday morning song. I think that's what's cool too. The songs don't have to fit into a box.

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I think that's one of the, we talk about this a lot, the secular-sacred divide, that we're going to put it into this one category. These are the only songs you sing for the kingdom. or for Christ. But man, there are a lot of different ways to express through your art, you know, the beauty of Christ.

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I went to a wild game feast one night, and they were serving black bear, and I was like, I know what they eat.

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You go into a situation. I told the kids when you go into that situation, and I try to live my life this way, not that I do it perfect, but I do try to live my life with something called the Ignatius indifference. And what Ignatius would say is you kind of hold these two options in your hand. And one option is saying, if this works, it's going to blow up and be huge.

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It's going to be awesome to have that platform. What did you give me there? Crickets. Crickets. Just because you're Ignatius.

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But what the indifference is, is that if this works, whatever you're doing, and it blows up and the thing, your dream blows up into this big, awesome experience. Great. That's awesome. What a platform that you're going to be able to have. If it doesn't work and you stay small and local or whatever that is, man, thank God I don't have to go do all of that. That's going to require a ton of work.

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And so either way, God has people where – in God's kingdom, Francis Schaeffer wrote a book called this, there are no little people. That's right. So whether you're the next Johnny Cash or you're just some guy playing down at the – general store and ministering to people that, I mean, there's no like little people in his kingdom. There really isn't.

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And that was something I had to come to grips with too because I thought if I'm not doing the big thing, then I'm not doing the thing that God wants me to do. The problem is that whatever position you're in, in terms of whatever success looks like, whatever influence you think that you should have or would have that would make you feel fulfilled, if you had that amount of influence, guess what?

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All that happens is your comparison level goes up. There's always going to be a bigger dog There's always going to be a bigger ministry. There's always going to be a more successful guy. There's always going to be someone who's richer, you know, and even if you're the richest guy in the world, like Elon Musk, all it takes is one, you know, one drop of your, of your, of your company stock.

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And now you're not that guy anymore. So you're trying to hold onto it. It's just not, you can't put your hope in those things and like living in that piece, I think is.

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They're both married to separate people. I want folks to be able to hear, because y'all have done a lot of music already, so this isn't like, I mean, although I said, I kind of made it sound like this is a new thing y'all are doing, but y'all have a Spotify, Apple.

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It's LO Worship. Yeah. And then YouTube. Do you have a YouTube channel?

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So we'll put links in the show notes, and then when you guys do the actual launch, we'll have you back on, because I really think our family, the Unashamed family, will love your ministry, probably a lot of people already know about what you guys are doing or listening to your, to what you guys are putting out. But, um, I'm proud of both of you.

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Honestly, it's like for me last night, I was like tearing up looking at my daughter up there singing so beautifully. And then you thinking about that, I felt a little guilty that I didn't have the pastoral oversight to see your gifting. So I repent, Reeves, but you know I love you. You are one of my favorite people in the world. I love your entire family. And I am super proud of both of you guys.

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And you are doing what God's called you to. So praise him.

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I should ask you, how do you prepare your squirrel?

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Yeah. I think that's so good. And I, um, when you said everything you guys were talking about, you know, the song that popped in my head was the Matt Redman song. I'm coming back to the heart of worship where it's all about you. When the music fades and all is stripped away and I simply come. And I love that story about that song. You guys, we all know Matt. He's one of the great guys. He is.

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And that song was written out of an overproduction in the church, in their church. And their pastor was like, Done. We're not doing that for a while. And the first song, they stripped everything down. And the first song they came back out with, they had sat in a season. I don't know the full, like I'm probably getting the details all wrong here, but the gist is right.

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They sat in a season of an aposture of who is God. who is this king of glory that we serve? And we're coming, let's go back to the heart of what worship is, that offer your bodies as living sacrifice. And the first song that came out of that was when the music fades and all is stripped away. Yeah, I think they quit doing worship for a while too.

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Barbecue some squirrels and figure it out. I might show up and do my burgers. I'll do barbecue burgers with imitation cheese and we can just see what happens. You may win. We'll see what happens.

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My daughter, Layla, is here in the house.

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Yeah, forget the one name. You're going with four. And then we got my... I say you're like a son to me. I'm like... Was it be a protege? So this guy was in the college ministry. He was part of our college ministry, obviously friend of the family. And now these two together are part of... Hello Worship, which is why we're in town, by the way. Yeah.

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We're in town because y'all did your first live album with Sadie last night. Yeah. Which is awesome, by the way.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, he kicked his foot up.

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So I know about LO Worship because obviously you guys are in it. We've been watching from the beginning. But tell the audience who may not know what you guys are doing with Sadie. I think it's pretty amazing.

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They say George on the bottom, so whatever.

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leading worship there and like taking care of the grounds and you kind of oversaw the whole you lived out there you were like willie was willie yeah you were you were willie 2.0 yeah you were the maintenance guy that that took the way willie never he never did the job right and then they brought in this guy to turn it all around yeah you did a great job not quite yeah um yeah it's uh

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I said, no, that created a vomit from the Lord God. For whatever reason, I do hear a lot. They say, you need to tell Jace to lighten up on you.

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I didn't realize that until I was going home. I was like, well, you know, I didn't win much. Then I thought, well, wait a minute. We did two good deeds. And you got your deeds covered. And I actually got, you know, a bunch of heathens to pay for it. I mean, this is just.

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Yeah. It reminds me of a, that reminds me of a quote. John Quincy Adams said that duty is ours and results are God's. And I think we want to take on that result, but that means it's not ours. It's his, you know, in evangelism is his to harvest. Yeah. Somebody said once, it's like putting a pebble in their shoe.

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Just put a pebble in their shoe, and you don't know that that pebble is going to sit there, and it's going to cause them to continue to think about whatever you talked about.

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Yeah. Well, you had mentioned earlier that, uh, when you connected with that guy who'd led you to Christ, I think I've, cause I've watched your ministry from afar and kind of up close too, cause we've done some work together. Um, And I love what you and Jackie both do. And even like I've watched what's happening at your church in Atlanta, which is incredible.

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I mean, you guys are kind of in the middle of this incredible revival. I've watched your pastor preach. Man, that guy's got some fire. And I watch and I think, man, what is it? I've tried to identify like what's going on in like your sphere. And I think you said it with what you realized through the

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through the man who really led you to Christ or put that pebble in your shoe early on, is that recognition, you said it, of your sin. And you guys don't hold back talking about sin. I mean, you guys are on the front lines, I would say, speaking prophetically in the culture. I think I've told you this before. I know I've told Jackie. You guys are speaking prophetically in the culture about sin.

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And I think as a storyteller, I make films and TV. In Christian art, I think where we've failed a lot is, you know, think about that creation, fall, redemption, restoration, consummation story that's in the Bible. We want to water down the fall part. We want to water down the sin part.

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But it is that understanding, that awareness of our sin, that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. It really is what unites us all. And that the wages of sin is death.

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I'd love to hear you talk about the boldness of how you guys enter into that discussion because you don't hold back. None of you guys that I've seen in your circle hold back on the discussion around sin. You really are being very bold about doing that, but you're also doing it with love.

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Yeah, which connects to the cry of the heart that you mentioned. The cry of the heart is, I'm trying to get back to my original condition. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah.

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But to be fair, Preston is a hunter now. He is a full-fledged hunter.

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I was thinking about Acts 2 when you were saying that, in Acts chapter 2, when he brings the nations back together, which we've argued on this podcast, it's a restoration of what happened at the Tower of Babel. But I always found it interesting that he does not eradicate the differences within the nations and the cultures.

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He actually brings them together, and each one hears the other talking in his own native tongues. He doesn't give them a homogenous language that they're all – now what he does is one guy speaking in his native tongue, a diverse tongue, but now it can be understood. And I think about that eschatological picture of the kingdom that is in Scripture. It is a – N.T.

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Wright says it's like a coloration, a beautiful kaleidoscope in Ephesians where he says that the church makes the manifold wisdom known. to the principalities and the powers and the authorities in the heavenly realms.

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She said, I'll put that in your fridge. What's the expiration date on it? I have to try that when I come down. I'm open. Oh, it's still cold.

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That's the picture, and I love it because it is a picture of this beautiful kaleidoscope of different cultures and nations, and we're all kind of bringing our best to the table in the kingdom. And together, there is that. We make up the temple, Jesus being the cornerstone of the temple. God has now made his home in humans.

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That to me is like the most profound thing is that God has made his home in human bodies. That's beautiful.

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Yeah, it's just penicillin. Here in France, yeah, they definitely eat the mold on it. She said several times. Let me respond with all due respect, obviously. And I want to be respectful here, but the other side of the argument is that she has something, like she's too vested in this. So she cannot see it objectively.

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And I will say that I actually buy their cheese and I use their cheese on sandwiches and everything else. Agree to agree. So you're not anti-cheese. No. You just think that's better. And they make the best cheese.

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That is natural American. I have not tried that. So I will try that brand. You take a picture of it, Al. Send it to me.

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No, the people have spoke. But now we have an expert on our side. You do have an expert, but also I think that her testimony is tainted because she is the heir to the empire. We're sorry. See what we had to deal with, Shelly.

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Well, Jay, you're going to do it. You'll make the burgers. You'll do one my way, one with that cheese right there. Yeah, give it a fair shot. But here's my question. You've got to at least taste it, Jason.

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That I'm telling you, you've got to do it the way I said it. And here's the thing. I don't even know if you can be objective at this point. I think you're so pot committed on this discussion. I don't know if you have the ability to be objective.

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Not by choice. And the fact that it won't melt. Well, let me add one thing to that before. I know we got to get to our break because we've got a guest coming on back. Yeah. Some of the best food that you've ever put in your mouth was born out of poverty. Jambalaya, gumbo, most of the Cajun foods, they all came out of that poverty culture. So don't knock it for its origins, Chase.

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And I will say this about her saying that it sticks to the roof of your mouth. Only if it's cold. If it's melted onto a hamburger, it does not stick to the roof of your mouth. It actually becomes almost like a... It's not quite a sauce because it's not that runny, but it's like it's in between like a cheese melt and a sauce. But it kind of infuses. That's what makes it good.

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It infuses with the burger. It's burger fusion.

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We were there with God Behind Bars. Layla was singing with Ella Worship and Preston gave his testimony and preached, which I have to say, you did awesome, man. He brought the house down.

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So my daughter-in-law sends me a text, which is not a common occurrence because my wife was in Nashville. My daughter-in-law sends me a text that says, are you coming to Nashville for Resurrection Weekend? Well, you know, it just kind of hit me. I hadn't seen my grandkids in a while. My wife is there.

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You brought down Alabama football. I did not. You're saying that was the Lord's timing? It was the Lord's timing.

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I thought you were going to say the state of Alabama stormed your house. That's how you write.

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so you've made yeah you've made it okay I was wondering if you've ever done an event in Alabama since that song came out oh yeah well I mean you know Christian's an Auburn guy so they love it down there so Auburn well I'm sure they love it yeah Auburn loves it yeah Because I was fixing to say my son just proposed marriage to a girl from Alabama, but she went to Auburn, so she's good, right?

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I'm like, I thought the event was on Saturday, so I never contemplated going because the event was on Friday. And I thought, why don't I just surprise them? And so because I thought Missy would be coming back Sunday after the resurrection service, which, by the way, was at my son was leading worship and they had rented out the Ryman Theater in downtown Nashville. And I was like, what am I doing?

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Well, congratulations. See, my dad, he's always had a way. Like if someone's dating, and Al will remember this hundreds of times, he'll meet somebody and he'll say, hey, Connor, it's better to marry than to burn with passion. And then if you say, yeah, I think I'm going to marry you, then he comes back with the verse. What is that one he says? Oh, it's the one in 1 Corinthians 7.

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He said, I want to warn you, though. Life is, I mean, a marriage is filled with trouble.

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Isn't that funny? Let me just tell you what really happened. Zach did one of the more stupid stunts that a husband could ever do. He forgot the rule, which is a godly principle, that when you get married, in God's math, it's supernatural math. It is one, one man plus one woman equals one. So that's math that you won't find at your local public school.

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So Zach has this moment that says, oh, Florida, because he's a Florida fan. She's from Alabama and is an Alabama fan. And we probably shouldn't let her listen to this, probably. Trust me, she doesn't listen. So Zach's like, well, Florida basketball goes to the whatever. What do they go to? Final four. The final four. And so Zach, he starts buying tickets without remembering the one plus one.

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No, no. Hold on, Zach. I'm not finished. I'm not finished. So he invites his son, never invites his wife.

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Well, because he's like, well, she's not a Florida fan. She's you. If you're going to any event, the first invitation is to your wife because one plus one is one. And so then he calls her and says, can you come pick me up in Louisiana? So not only did he not invite her, then she drives 11 hours.

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I got to go to Nashville, you know, support my kids. My son's leading worship. And so I made the change. I had to tell one person, so I called Reed because I was like, because I'm going to need a ride here at some point from the airport and all this kind of stuff.

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to pick him up and then it's like oh while you're here come on our podcast so as soon as she party bus you've taken the story you've taken the story to a different level now that's not actually what happened now these are the facts so look then when she sat out on the podcast she just exploded it had nothing to do with me or al she said i said are you are you are you upset and she's like yeah

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Okay, so if Tennessee ever makes it to any kind of championship game, remember, don't say, oh, you're from North Carolina. I mean, she's in. I mean, that's something you want to experience with your wife.

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So Connor, you read that verse and did you then say...

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Yeah, I'm surprised at Missy and my daughter-in-law, Reed's wife, and my grandkid. So I kept the secret. And because Reed was practicing for the worship service, and the session, I mean, the timing just all worked out. It was like right about the time my plane was landing, he was going to be just a few minutes away.

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I was like, I'll just get an Uber and meet you there, which everything was working great. And so we go to his house, and I thought Missy would be there, but she wasn't. She was at our farm. And so then when she wasn't there... Because I had a prank in mind. Here's what I was going to do.

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No, I didn't complain. I just gave you the facts. The... Worst thing about trees is that they grow slow.

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I was like, you go in and say you picked up a hitchhiker in the neighborhood and you're going to fix him a meal and just see what they do. And I was like, then I'll come in a minute later and be like, ah, I'm the hitchhiker. So that was the plan.

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You know what's crazy? You said that so like two nights ago, I was doing a show and I was west of Abilene, middle of nowhere. I think there was 94 people there.

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I'm just going to tell you what happened. You can do with this what you want. I was asked to go and be a part of this show. It was a jazz concert. And someone, they had had a meeting, and they wanted to do a fundraiser for... to raise money for these high school kids who are jazz musicians. And it was about 30 of them. And I'm at the concert. So I kept thinking, well, why am I here?

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I assumed it was a Christian school because I'm more about my faith than anything else. But, oh, no. They said, well, we know you're musically inclined. Because you blow a duck call. So I thought, wow. So it was the same atmosphere you described. I quickly figured out that the people in the audience, even though it wasn't a lot of people, it was basically a private party. They had a lot of money.

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And that's why they were there. And they had the concert. And I was just there to kind of bridge the gap. But it's funny because I don't know what they thought I was going to say. But when those kids who were, when I say they were talented, it was off the charts. But I went the same direction you did. I said, you know what you just saw there? This is my opening line.

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I said, you saw the image of God being shown through their talents. Because they were doing most of their songs ad lib just off the top of their head, and it was really impressive. Of course, I have my Bible. I did my little duck call thing. I was like, it's a lot like playing a trombone, I think.

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Of course, I share Jesus, and just like you said, the total atmosphere changed because I'm pretty sure me and the kids were the few sober people there. But I think it went well, and it was one of the few events I stayed after because there was only 94 people there, so it wasn't a rush to the door. And, you know, the altar call just happened organically. People came up with tears in their eyes.

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It's like we need to hear more about that. So I think that's Jesus stuff.

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That was my thinking. It'll be great. We'll take pictures. It'll be good. Well, when Missy wasn't there, Reed was like, well, forget that idea. I was like, yeah, okay, you're right. So now we're no longer pranking because I just thought, what am I going to prank my daughter-in-law? I mean, it just kind of got weird. So I'm getting all my stuff. Well, he goes on in the house.

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This is actually better than we previously planned. Well, when I walked in, Brighton, Reed's wife, had followed him. You got to look at it from her perspective because I thought the prank's over. But when I came in, she didn't realize someone was with him, obviously. Because we had gone to the grocery store. We had to do a bunch of errands because they were feeding a lot of their friends.

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Yeah, I thought he was going to say this moment because my wife reminded me last night because I thought, Connor Smith. I was like, oh, he's a country music singer. And I said in front of my wife, I don't want to hurt your feelings. I said, what do I know about country music? I was like, what are we going to talk about? She said, babe, you were part of country music. And I was like, what?

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She's like, you don't remember? We have a country music album that you sang on, or mostly talked, but on one song, that went platinum. That Christmas record y'all did or something? Yeah. So she said, and did you realize that it was the number one Christmas album in 2013? And I was like, well, the number one Christmas album. She said, we beat Garth Brooks. Yeah. And I thought, are you kidding me?

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And I'm not bragging because I just found this out last night. I was like, what does going platinum mean? But she said, you don't remember the whole time we were doing it, you said this will never work, which I did. I was like, this will never work. But what it made me think, the reason I'm telling... telling you that is really singing is storytelling.

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And I saw that all over the place where the media and your fans when I was researching you, that seemed to be the one thing that came out above all others. And so I'm not shocked because the greatest story in the world is the story of Jesus. And so I think you combining that in this kind of spirit-filled way is why, you know, the Lord is blessing your endeavors.

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And a lot of the people who sang in the worship that night, which then I realized I was wrong about when Missy was coming back because she was cooking. She cooked crawfish pies, and he did kind of a prime rib. So that's why. Then the problem with surprises is, is she wasn't coming back till Monday in which we have podcasts and we had a guest coming on.

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You know what's weird about this? So I did an event west of Abilene, but I'll probably share that with our guests because it may be I have a similar way. I had a similar occurrence because I did this. It was like a jazz concert with young people and they were raising money for that. And you're like, why were you there? Which is what I was asking myself the first 10 minutes I was there.

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So I was like, oh, can we move this to Tuesday? So anyway, I walk in and well, she has her back to me and Reed's kind of grinning because he sees me and then it hit me. I was like, oh, she doesn't know I'm here yet. So I just walked up and put my arm around her from the back, you know, just put my arm around her shoulder. When she looked at me, I'm going to try to imitate what she did.

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He said, I wasn't bragging. I was laughing at Jace, too. I just found out about that. I was like, I still didn't think that worked. I don't do social media and stuff.

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Connor, just when I thought I was done with country music, the Lord sent you and pulled me back in.

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Well, remember this. When the creeks rise, I'm moving blinds. This is a once-in-a-five-year opportunity to get the blind on the X. Come on.

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This is terror. It was terror to a degree that she started violently shaking even after she realized it was me. Well, then I was like, Lee was laughing. I was no longer laughing. I thought, are you okay? And she was like, no. I mean, it scared her. I was like, well, your husband was right here. It terrified her, and I apologized the rest of the weekend.

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And then, so then I was so distraught that we then talked about, she was asking me a lot of biblical questions for three hours. We were waiting for Missy to be there, and I was going to lay down on the couch, and then when she came in, I was going to pop up.

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But we got so enthroned in this conversation, because Reed fell asleep on the couch, that Missy pulled in without either one of us knowing it, and she just walked in.

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I'm just sitting there, and she's like, What are you doing here? So it was like, no surprise. So then I was like, wah, wah, wah. No surprise happened. All I did basically with the surprise is terrorize my daughter-in-law. And then Missy was like, what are you doing here? Well, how are you going to do podcasts? You know, it was immediately went into...

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The smart person in the room, which is my wife, said, we have a logistical nightmare. So then I bumbled off and started making calls saying, what are the odds that we can push this back a little bit? Which then, what's weird is our guest is from Nashville. I was in Nashville, and then we had to rearrange the whole schedule so we could come down to Louisiana and have a podcast. So that's on y'all.

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Our kids are there. Let me tell you this story. You're not going to believe this. Because when you go to Nashville, things happen. Things happen. You're never going to guess what happened on Sunday morning. All right. We go to the Easter service. You know, we're at the Ryman. I mean, it's, you know. It was packed. I saw it on Instagram. Everything was packed. So I go outside after the service.

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I was actually looking for a bathroom. And because they wouldn't let me in. And look, it was complete facial profiling. So I terrorized not only my daughter-in-law, but the security guard. Because I was like, I really need to go to the bathroom. He said, you're not coming in there. I was like, I was just in there, you know, because I walked out. Yeah.

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And then I was like, oh, I got to go to the bathroom. He's like, no. So I wound up bribing some company that hadn't opened next door to let me in. But I had to go get Missy. I was like, she's with me, and this is an emergency. And so anyway, guess who I bumped into, who went to the same service I did with a friend of my son's, which is weird.

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Guess who I bumped into just outside the Ryman restaurant on the sidewalk while I'm looking for a bathroom.

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No, Brock Purdy, the starting quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. Remember I told the story a few weeks ago about one of his offensive linemen meeting me at my house during his bye week, coming to Jesus, and it all started from a conversation that he heard Brock having with somebody else about he was ready for Jesus to come back, you know, and it convicted Colton, led him to me.

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And I was like, what in the world? And he's like, small world. And so I'm glad we got to meet. So we took a picture. It was Missy's idea because somebody asked me that because I told my son. He's like, did you ask for the picture or did he? And I was like, no. Number one, he was way more popular than I was. While we were standing there chatting, him and his wife, he got like 10 picture requests.

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It was literally a jazz concert. They got all the rich people from around, and they were raising money. And then it finally hit me. Oh, I can blow a duck call. I'm musical. And you're like, oh, that's a joke. No, that was it. That was it. And so they wanted me to talk about music and the similarities, tell a few jokes. Of course, it wound up to be a Jesus sermon. And it was just a secular event.

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And I'm like, because he looked, you know, you see these football players now, but when you see them in real life, he just looked like a kid. Yeah. And he was about the same size as me. I'm like, how have you not just been destroyed? Because, you know, his offensive lineman, I mean, he could eat him. I mean, he's just so huge. And I thought, man, it must be. You must have God's presence on you.

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You know, I didn't tell him because you look small to me. I didn't say that. I just said, you know, you're in a world where dangerous men, you know. But so we kind of caught up with that. And that was awesome.

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Oh, that would have let him right in and probably rolled out a red carpet.

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And he made us feel all at home because we're the only ones wearing camouflage. It's a really good start.

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Well, they can actually sing. I had to familiarize myself with the country music world since I knew you were coming on.

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We've had a weird relationship through the years. I kind of had one moment when Country Boy Can't Survive came out. I thought you were going to say Country Girl Shake It For Me, but I didn't know where you fit into the country genre. You just said a title that I'm really glad I'm not familiar with. Country Girl Shake It For Me. No, I missed that one.

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It wasn't like a Christian event, but we turned it into one.

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But because I thought now country boy, because I never, you know, we were raised, my dad, he was kind of a, well, how would you depict his music? He was kind of a classic rock guy. He liked Queen and Foreigner.

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Yeah. So it was a little, I mean, he liked Leonard Skinner.

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Yeah. But I heard you had some outs with Alabama. But we can talk about that later. Not the band, but the state. Yeah, the state. Just the whole state. Oh, that's my new favorite song.

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You know what I found fascinating? I was researching you, and, I mean, that song immediately came up, and I thought, ooh, we got some controversy here. I was like, I hate Alabama. I was like, he just went ahead and said it. I swung the bat, yeah. And then, so, well, what I found fascinating was all these people interviewing you, and you're just like, no, it's not really about Alabama football.

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It's about your ex-girlfriends or whatever. It's like, then I looked at the words of the song, and I thought, looks like it's about Alabama football. Yeah.

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Well, you go from surviving to thriving. In Christ, I mean, the promise is you will have life and have it abundantly. So it's not that we're just trying to survive. Although it feels like that at times, because you read Hebrews 11, and you've got the heroes of the faith, and it's kind of all these stories of how they suffered intense persecution. Some were sawed in two.

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They were sewn up in the sheepskin, and they were fiercely persecuted. And the Hebrew writer says that they didn't receive the promise, they will receive it with us together.

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So there is this idea, there are times in life where it may not feel like you're thriving, but I think that what is actually happening though is, as Jill, I think you said this in the last podcast, that even in those times, God is still present. And so we hang on to the, he is transforming us into some new creation, which I think is the

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the whole main point of John 6 is that he's ushering in the new creation. So he's, as you mentioned 10 times, heaven is coming to earth, which mirrors the prayer when Jesus says, when he prays, what does he say? That your will be done where?

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Like what? Just like it is in heaven. So what does that mean? Heaven and earth coming together. And so where this all kind of fits into what we've talked about a lot is the The place where that happens in the Old Testament, where heaven and earth come together, where is it? It's the temple. So the whole thing is still like this temple language. Even in John 6, you're seeing this temple language.

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And I think there's kind of controversy around John 6 sometimes because there's some phrases in the hair that Jesus says that I think are, I don't think they're very difficult to understand, but they get into big theological debates about it. And I don't think it's necessary.

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Which is interesting, that phrase, that Old Testament scripture that he quotes, because he doesn't say that man doesn't live on bread. He said he doesn't live on bread alone, so he doesn't diminish the physical world. That's the point that I think is so interesting about John 6. He's not diminishing Right. He's not saying that physical bread doesn't matter. He created it.

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I mean, the debate is, is Jesus saying, because he says in here that all who the Father gives him will come. He won't lose any of them. And he also says that they can only come if the Father draws them to come. And so there's a big debate around that, but I don't think it's complicated, really. I think the key to John 6 is kind of the key to the whole Bible, is that all things originate with God.

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Or visit TNUSA.com slash unashamed. That's TNUSA.com slash unashamed. I mean, Jesus is right. I'm not going to come to him. And later on in the gospel, John, he says about the coming of the Holy Spirit that he convicts the world of their sin. And he also convicts us about righteousness and judgment.

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I'd like to call this from a business perspective. Can we just call it the other cheese until they pay?

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And what I think he means by that is, I'm not walking around in the forest as an explorer, and I'm going to somehow discover God. That's not how this works. God breaks into reality, and he reveals himself to us. So we would all agree with that, right? That's not a debatable thing. And...

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God is not, if I come to him in faith and I'm under covenant with him, he's not going to forget, oh, where does that go? I lost him. I mean, he's going to keep us, right? Now, that doesn't mean that I can't say I'm done with you. Right. Yeah.

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And the Holy Spirit is the one, the agent of the Trinity who's doing that work. Exactly. It works to people, but he has to illuminate my heart for me to see anything. Right.

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The Holy Spirit just broke through. That's what it looks like.

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My cheese never, it doesn't go bad.

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I'm not saying that the cheese I use is eternal, but I will tell you, I've never seen.

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The crazy thing about the signs though, is Jesus says this when they, cause they, they, they, they had mentioned a sign. We mentioned that last podcast day that we had manna. dropping out of the sky. And Jesus is like, yeah, but that didn't come from Moses. You know what I mean? And he goes back, and if you go back to John 5, he says, for if you believe Moses...

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You would have believed me, for he wrote about me. And so the point is, he's making John 5, which he's coming to kind of this climax in John 6, is you never really believed any of the signs. You never believed them, really. He said, because they were all pointing to me. So if you think about, there's a term, if you're Catholic or Lutheran, you've heard this term, the Eucharist, right?

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And for something to be, mainly the Eucharist means We call it the Lord's Supper in the church that we grew up in. Some churches call it the communion, the Lord's Supper, the Eucharist, but it's the bread and the wine that we do. We do it every Sunday.

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Yellow, orange. I think it's time to move on. I'll tell you another thing. I was reminded of a verse. I was trying to be supportive. There's a verse in the Bible. You warn a divisive cousin once, then you warn him twice. I think y'all might struggle with being divisive. I'm just saying. I told you I was trying to bring you closer. I'm assuming.

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Or the juice and crackers, depending on who you are, right? But what is that? Because that's what's happening here in John 6. He's really laying out the case for the Eucharist. But what he's actually saying is that... that man is all men are Eucharistic. And what that means is, is to be a, to be a Eucharistic is we, we take the elements and,

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and we ingest the elements, and then those elements are then transformed back into something. So think about when you eat. When you eat food, it goes into your body, and what does it become? Your body. I mean, you're on the— Or less of it.

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Yeah, me too. It also produces some waste. It does produce some waste, but you transform what you ingest, and it becomes you in the end.

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the original Genesis. And then this, what I think he's doing here is a new Genesis. The original Genesis is that man was Eucharistic first and foremost, that he was created. And God said, Hey, you can have any tree in this garden. You can eat of it. And when you eat of it, you're going to eat it. You're dining with me. Cause I'm giving you this as, as, as a gift.

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So the, the original creation, the goal of humanity, when God created is I've created this world for, for you to dine with me.

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No, what you were doing was I had flashbacks of you being the puppet master when we were all kids orchestrating chaos for your own sadistic pleasure act.

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No, that's right. You know the song we used to sing, every blessing you pour out... I turn back to praise. Every blessing you pour out, I turn back to praise.

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But that's the song that they were singing in the garden. They were ingesting every blessing, and then that would come back out into praise and thankfulness to God. But there was this one tree that he said, don't eat that tree. And I think it's wrong for us to understand that as God putting an arbitrary tree to say, oh, we got to have a test for the humans.

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So this is the test tree over here because we got to have the option, right? I don't think that's what it was. I think that tree represents to dine alone, to eat the tree for the fruit, for the sake of the fruit. John Piper, he says a desire becomes idolatrous sometimes. when it turns in on itself, when it terminates on itself. That's what that tree was.

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It's like, I'm going to eat this just for the sake of the fruit. It was good and pleasing to the eye. That's why they ate it. But it was to dine without God.

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Let me add to that, because when he says that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, then you have to go to John 17, 3, because he defines eternal life. As communion with him. So now we're back in the garden from the tree of life. I mean, that's the point. So it's like all these rivers and these veins, the way I would imagine.

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There's all these veins, but they're all going to the same center heart, which is the heart of God. It's communion with God. So the point that he's making in John 6 is he's saying that, no, I'm reestablishing the Eucharist. But this time, you got to understand, we're ingesting Christ. We're actually eating the flesh of Christ and drinking his blood. That sounds like cannibalism.

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I mean, the conversation even like last night just kept, like we kept going, like Al, be out of it. And then Al would drop a nugget. When he would get bored, he would drop a nugget. And Jill would just bite every time.

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You're missing the point. What he's saying is to commune with, to ingest Christ is to ultimately become, or to be conformed into the image of Christ. Which is Romans 8.

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Well, John Six, that's never been very divisive, so this is a great, easy passage.

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And I think that that's the part that we experience. That's the now, and it's the not yet. I actually have my Bible, Jace. It's so funny you read that, Hebrews 11, 39. And when you were reading it, I was thinking that.

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I actually had this note written in my Bible, and this is my note around Hebrews 11, 39, which it reads, and all these things, I'm sorry, and all these though commended through their faith, all the heroes of the faith, did not receive what was promised since God has provided something better for us that apart from us, They should not be made perfect. So we'll do this together.

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And the note I have in my Bible is, I call it the surpassing of the threshold of God's kingdom glory. This is the already, not yet. More specifically, the not yet that will be realized in the kingdom to come. So we're hanging on to that. And so when you move on to that very next verse, it gives us the motivation.

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It actually gives us the motivation for hanging on when it gives us Christ as the identity. He says, And sin, which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith. And here's the part that I want to finish with. Who for the joy. For what? For the joy. Who for the joy. What was the motivation?

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For the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising its shame. and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God. So Jesus suffered on the cross. He said, what was his motivation? There was a joy that was set before Christ that was his motivation for the endurance of suffering on the cross. He said, so what should our motivation be for suffering? For the joy that's set before us.

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Well, what is that joy? And that joy is that we are going to be one with God. We are one with God because of what's called the finished work of Christ and what he did on the cross. Christ had that in mind. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life. That's the joy. He had something in mind.

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What did he have in mind? Union with his creation. That's Genesis.

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It's the Edenic language. It is the garden of Eden all over. He said, I'm going back. I'm going to accomplish what they could not accomplish in the garden, what they ruined in the garden. I'm going to accomplish it on the cross.

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Could people hear it? No, the audience couldn't hear it. I could hear it through my house.

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Right. Yeah, that's the part about this John 6. You get into it, and I think it's fine to try to pull out little nuggets about soteriology or whatever, but at the end of the day, this is about... What is soteriology? Where's the cricket button? It's like the doctrines of salvation. Think bigger.

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We're talking about coming to know in the most intimate, not just know, but becoming one with with the creator of the cosmos. Like we're being, I mean, like union with Christ. I'm like, with Christ, union with Christ, that's a big deal. It's like, man, we gotta, you gotta think bigger. Yeah, I mean, God, you have to think bigger. That's the picture that's being painted here by Jesus.

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And I think that they kept going back to the cisterns. Well, we've got to hold it in our doctrines. We've got to hold it in our thing. We've got to pour it in here. And Jesus is like, I'm trying to tell you, boys, y'all need some new wineskins. This will burst.

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And that's the prevention, by the way, of... of not becoming stale in your faith. Cause I thought about this a lot. Someone, uh, I saw someone put on Instagram the other day about David. And they were talking about how he had written so much of the Psalms, and I forgot which one they pulled out, but it was like, man, whoever wrote that line, that dude was connected with God.

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He's like, hey, the same guy that wrote this also later on cheated on his wife, murdered a guy. And he's like, man, you can't live on yesterday's spiritual wins. And I thought, man, I want to finish strong. I don't want to live on the encounter I had with Jesus 20 years ago. Man, I want more of him today. And it's because...

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the Holy Spirit's going to live in bodies now, that God's going to take up residence in our human bodies, that we actually, as time progresses, we can actually grow closer and experience His presence even more. And my hope is that when I'm on my deathbed, when I'm at the end of my journey, when I'm in that state like where my mom was, I mean, at the end of her life, there's just a frail body left.

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And I remember going in there the night before she died, And I just sang, I put on some Shane and Shane and some Alan Jackson.

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She loved the Alan Jackson gospel. And she couldn't communicate anymore. And half the time I'm like, I don't even know if she's aware of what's going on. But when I played them songs, you know what she did? Just tears. Tears. I could look in her eyes and I was like, she's ready to go. She's ready to go.

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But that's a life well lived. That's exactly right. And so that's the picture.

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So you can't critique it at all. No. If you're a service dog, that's like you can't say, I mean, that is like.

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It actually helps to have a – Little studio audience. I feel like you kind of figured it out.

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And then we had California. So we had California and Arizona.

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Look, I need to have a meeting with the elders of your church if they're going to use the unashamed. Is it the brand of our podcast? No, it's the Bible brand, Zach. Al is an elder.

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Did they save the best wine for last, though, or did the drinks get cheaper as the night went on?

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Are you vetting all these teachers? You got Jersey Joe, you got Cy. I mean, who else we got coming up?

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I just filled up my tank with diesel, 25 gallons, $17.50 cash back. It's legit. I mean, we're saving money doing it.

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I tried. I tried to move everybody. I tried to move the ball forward.

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So it's actually a, the, we were joking, I'm not joking about it. We were talking about the, there's different ways you categorize that belief system. I won't give the terms here, but. Thank you for that. Cause we would just, cause that, you know, Pavlo's dogs, every time that he would train, they train the dogs, but every time they beat him, they'd ring a bell.

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And then that bell, every time they ring that bell, the dog would start to salivate because his body had been trained through the sound. And so that cricket noise that you guys do, I've been classically trained not to say certain words.

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I'm not going to say the word. If you want to say the word, you can say it.

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That is one of them, Jace. So where's the cricket sound for Jace? Can we get a cricket sound for Jace? There we go. Cricket yourself. There we go.

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And they do make a great bait if you're going to brimfish. Oh, the best.

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Well, yeah, it is an emphasis on a third temple being built, the rapture, all of that kind of eschatology. Oh, there's the other one. There's the other one.

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Yeah, what's our understanding of how the end times are going to play out? And when you say end of times, you mean like end of the age, this end of the pre-glorification or consummation, the second coming of Christ. What happens after that? When does that happen? What happens before that?

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That's what I felt like. It's a very popular view in evangelical circles, primarily for two reasons. One, the gentleman who invented this or came up with this idea, I think it was John Darby, he was able to get – I think he was part of the Plymouth Brethren. I can't remember. What book in the Bible did he write? He didn't write one. Oh, okay. That doesn't mean he's wrong.

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That doesn't mean he's wrong. That's true. But I just make the point that it's a relatively new idea that came about, I think, in the late 1800s. He was able to connect somehow with Schofield. You guys know, like, the Schofield Reference Bible. Yep.

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Yeah, they were very, very popular. And... And everybody had, so they had these notes in there that people would study, and they all had Darby's work in there, which made it very popular. And then there was a series that came out, I'm not sure when, but I remember the books, the Left Behind series, you guys remember that? Which made it really popular, I think back in maybe the 80s or 90s.

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So it is a very common view in a lot of churches. It's not the view that I hold, and I think that, even our passage today, mainly because I think that what Jesus teaches about the temple, it seems to be there's something else going on here. There's a third temple I think Jesus is prophesying that's going to come. And he does say what that third temple is here. So I've been reading articles lately.

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One of my friends sent me an article of a third temple that they're going to start building in Israel somewhere. And I'm like, well, what about the Jesus' proclamation here, I don't know what they would say about that, but Jesus seems to be talking about a different third temple than some kind of physical structure.

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She may be setting you up, Jace. I don't know.

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And Jesus said, get behind me, Satan. And also whenever Jesus told Peter that you'll deny me, you'll leave me just like Judas. He said, no, not me. Oh, no, before the night ends, you'll deny me three times before the rooster crows twice. And Peter says, no, I'll die with you. Because he's thinking, yeah, he doesn't have a clue about a suffering Savior. I mean, they don't have a clue.

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Honestly, this is so good because this is what Paul's doing in the book of Romans as well. When you get to Romans 9, and this is like the text in Scripture where everybody goes to talk about predestination. And I'm like, you're really missing the whole point of Romans 9-11.

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If that's what you think he's talking about primarily, no, what he's talking about primarily is the grafting in of the Gentiles into the faith. That's the point. That's the argument that he's making. So when he says, Jacob, I've loved, Esau, I've hated, he's not talking about the individual people of Jacob and Esau. He's talking about who they represent.

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Israel and Edom, because if you go back to Jacob and Esau, Genesis chapter 25, when he says that, the older shall serve the younger, which is a quote from Genesis 25, he's talking about Edom and he's talking about Israel. And so Edom represents everyone that's kind of not Israel, and then Israel represents God's chosen people. And so the idea of Romans 9 through 11 is that there's a tree,

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And these Gentiles are going to be grafted into the tree. And Paul says it's not the children of the flesh who are the children of the promise. In other words, it's not the DNA. It's the children of the promise. I recently switched to our new cell phone provider, Pure Talk. This is a company that I went after specifically and said, hey, well, you guys want to advertise on our show.

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But it was a DNA issue to some extent because Jacob, because these were descendants that came out of Jacob, right? And so what he's saying, that's why he starts Romans 9 with, I tell you the truth, I'm not lying in my conscience. It bears witness in the Holy Spirit.

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that I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart, for I wish that I myself were accursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, my kinsmen, according to the flesh, my DNA. These are people I share DNA with. They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory of the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. To them belong the patriarchs.

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He's lifting up the nation of Israel here. To them, to their race, According to the flesh is the Christ. In other words, Phil said this one time, when God became flesh, he became Jewish flesh, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen. But it is not though the word of God is failed, for not all... who are descended from Israel, belong to Israel.

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And not all children of Abraham are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but through Isaac shall your offspring be named. This means that it's not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but it's the children of the promise of who are counted as offspring.

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So the idea here is what God is establishing is he said, my children are the children of the ones who I made the covenant with.

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Or, yeah, sometimes these prophecies will have an echo to them. So like there could be a prophecy after the destruction, or there could be a prophecy about the destruction of the temple that could apply to 586 BC when the Babylonians came in and destroyed the temple. Right. But that prophecy could have echoes afterwards. into the future and be echoing into AD 70 as well.

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And I think you see that in the Old Testament prophecies.

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I'd like to say, I know we're about to run out of time, and I want to say this because I think this is going to be very provocative what I'm going to say, but I want to say it.

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Please keep your clothes on. Here it is. Here's the news that we have found out the exact date that this third temple is going to be rebuilt. We're going to tell you the exact date, and it's in John 2. It's three days... after the crucifixion of Jesus. Three days after the crucifixion of Jesus is when the third temple will be and was rebuilt. It is Jesus Christ himself.

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Jesus is the cornerstone of the temple, which leads me to my point. Everyone believes that Jesus is the king, but how can he be a king without a kingdom? We don't talk about the kingdom being here.

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I would love to see that a little bit.

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If it sounds like supernatural nonsense, then it's probably just... I call it the caterwaul effect is what I call it.

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It's funny, Jay, because I'll say this to wrap it up. The same thing I said about when Dad did that episode, when I was watching it, and it was some beautiful footage of it, they had drones and all this stuff. And I said, you know, who else in America – is doing this during the late spring season. I would say not many. It's an interesting lifestyle.

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We're all happy, happy. And then you closed it out with Missy's birthday feast, I hope.

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You know, it's interesting, Jace, because Missy has always shared a birthday with Willie, but it is also the anniversary of my granddaughter getting married. That all happened down the same day. So there was a lot going on yesterday.

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Yeah. I never know if they're sort of kidding and it's a real moment or if it's like a weird. Well, that's what I thought, Al, but about 10 minutes. Because, Mom, I went in there one day. I said, Mom, are you meeting some of your new suite mates? Because there's people in these little apartments around them. And she said, oh, yeah, we're all going on vacation together next year.

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Well, I mean, I busted out laughing. And then I wasn't sure, was she joking or was she like really thinking they were going to go on vacation? Because sometimes she thinks they're on vacation. She told me they were in an all-inclusive recently. So I never know. But, you know, she laughed about it, so so did I, but I was nervous.

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Oh, there's the tease for the next podcast. So we left off. We're still in John 6. We're kind of at the close of that chapter, which has been an interesting and, you know, in-depth study because we've had a lot of rabbit holes, mostly by Jays, that we've looked at, but all of it provides the flavor of,

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In the background, because as Jay stated correctly, this is, I would say, a fairly controversial chapter because it has produced a lot of different interpretations, I think is a fair way to say it, of this text.

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No, I agree. And I think that's why... He made the statement that we said when he was talking to Nicodemus that you should know these things, and that's why he continues to go back.

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You mentioned in the last podcast that he mentions Moses 13 times in John, and quite a bit in John 6, which is where we've been, which is why you want to go to Deuteronomy and read it, because Deuteronomy is basically Moses' reset

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For the people of Israel, after 40 years of wandering around the desert before they're about to go into the promised land, which had been promised to Abraham's heritage 400 years earlier. So you see why these things continue to come up. And I had one more just shallow rabbit hole.

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to show you that it even went beyond this because you think once they got into Canaan, the promised land, the thing that God had promised Abraham through his heritage, then that would be the end of it. But it wasn't the end of it because it was always going to be about him sending the Messiah to that you would trust in him for eternal salvation.

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That's always been the goal, no matter where they were in Israeli history. And there was a couple of instances in 1 and 2 Samuel Around David, who's also mentioned quite a few times by Jesus in the New Testament, the Gospels. And one of those was a story from Second Samuel 23. And it's a story about David's mighty men.

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And, you know, he had like 30 of these guys that were like his inner circle, you know, and they were great warriors. And the setting is they're in this battle with the Philistines. So they're behind enemy lines. And David just kind of in a moment of saying how he felt said, oh, if I only had some water out of a well in Bethlehem, it'd be like, man, wouldn't that be great?

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Because they were separated because of this army. Well, three of these guys heard him say it. Well, guess what? They fought their way through the enemy line to go back into Israel, got some water. out of that well, brought it back and fought their way back to where David was and offered him the water. I mean, that's how committed they were to the process. But he said something really interesting.

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When they handed him the water, David said, "'Far be it from me, O Lord, to drink this.'" Is it not the blood of men who went at the risk of their lives? And then he pours the water out on the ground. And you'd think that was almost be like from our mindset of living in our own culture. That would be like an insult. But for him, what he was saying was, is these men risk their lives, their blood.

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to bring this water to me. And I'm telling you, this water is for all of Israel. And he pours it out on the ground. Then, of course, they win the war. But I think it's little symbols that you see all through this process. Same thing when David went in and ate the show bread in 1 Samuel.

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You see these situations where Jesus mentions and says, all that was pointing to me, living water, blood as a symbol of that water, my body, bread as an idea that that's who I've come to be. And so it happens over and over and over throughout Old Testament history to continue to point to this very moment, which is what Jesus is trying to prove. And you're right.

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In this case, we're in the end of John 6. Most didn't believe. And I say most. I mean, all these people, remember, there were thousands. And all of a sudden, Jesus looks back up, and we're back down basically to the original 12. Going into the next step.

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I just spent the weekend with him down here. He was a little bit more laid back. You know, I know. I would call him maybe stone when he was down here.

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I think you're right. And I was mentioning earlier about Jesus using David eating the showbread, you know, on the Sabbath was the defense in Matthew 6. I mean, in Matthew 12. But here's what he said, Zach, to your point you just made. He said when he was talking about this, here's what in Matthew 12, 6. I tell you that no one, I mean, I tell you that one greater than the temple is

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is here now that he was talking to the context about the sabbath but you could say the same thing about his flesh his body all of it everything we've been talking about everything that the the exodus and the passover and all those things pointed to what he was saying was you're looking for something that is now here yeah and that's me and when i leave when i ascend to jesus point in this text i'm going to send my spirit and in that way i'm here on earth you are my temple

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And so I think that's where so many people have missed it because they leave off in that 2 Chronicles and they're saying, well, boy, it's going to be something one day when Jesus comes back and they build that temple over there on that ground, that third temple. And we're like, you're waiting on something that's already here.

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Built on the foundation of the apostles, all those in the first century, and now for 2,000 years since, living stones that continue to be built. I want to say this.

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If you're watching the podcast today, I'm wearing a rather loud shirt that says Gulf of America on it. So Jace will give me a hard time. And as that comes on with this Elmer Fudd. Orange Hat.

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I got some palm trees, Zach, and I'm doing some work around those right now, making them look nice. But when they came in, they were ready to rock, which is one of the things I love about fast growing trees.

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I love the idea about showing up in flesh. I don't know where you were going with the AI illustration, but I was thinking if there was somebody you really respected and had really meant a lot to you, and you got a letter, and it was probably from a handler, but it still was from this person, you would think, oh, man, that's really cool. They've sent me something.

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And then you got an email from them with their name on it. You're thinking, man, they sat down and typed out an email. And then you got a call from them or a FaceTime And that would be amazing. But if they showed up at your front door and knocked on it and you open the door and they were there, they were on your front porch.

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I mean, you should be beside yourself because they came all the way to see you.

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Why would you slam the door in their face and say, nope, not not really him? Mm hmm.

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Exactly. And that's why those Old Testament references are important. Whether you're talking about bread that falls from heaven, water that comes out of a rock, water that is called men's blood and is poured out on the ground as a sacrifice. I mean, all those things from the Old Testament, the Jewish mind should have understood that when he said, look, I am all those things in one.

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And when I leave here, because he gives you that last hint, when I sin, I'm going to send all that into you to then be my body. So that's the whole point he's trying to get across.

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So let me reset this before we sign off on this podcast and we'll get into it on the next one. So Jesus, all this has happened around Galilee. Droves have left him because of this teaching that he's just done. And he's about to go into the teeth of his opposition, which is in Jerusalem. Because remember, now people are starting for the first time saying, this guy's dangerous.

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I mean, not only do we not believe him, but something's got to be done about this. And so that's our next chapter that we get into in this sort of journey that Jesus is on. So we'll pick it up next time in John 7 on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube.

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You already see in the headlines, Duck Dynasty star drowned on his own property.

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So Jace even has categories. He has the, what did you call it?

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So, Jase, this reminds me. Zach, do you remember, I think it was in the first year, Dad's old show. It was called In the Woods with Phil. And we did more than one episode. I want to say it was three. maybe two or three episodes about this because, you know, the whole setup for that show is dad just doing what dad does, doing dad things. And he was showing exactly how he does it.

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Welcome back to Unashamed. Zach, it's always good when we start out the podcast, wherever you get going, Jay's playing the role of Mr. Blackwell. Always has some commentary on mine and yours. What were our attire?

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And I don't remember a freestyle, but I do remember him hooking up the ropes, and it was him and Dan doing exactly.

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to become a tomorrow club's ministry partner so you were talking about you were talking about flooding and it made me think about we've told the story before when dad was on the podcast about him picking our property that we would live on in 19 the summer of 1976 jsu and i were children You know, I was 11. You were about seven.

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And he famously told the real estate agent who was very nervous about selling this property because it was in a flood zone that he didn't want it unless it flooded. Because that's when good things happen. It was his mindset because, you know, you got all this stuff that flowed down the river. Of course, you could fish the backwater. I mean, no one else understood what a good flood could do.

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Most people are afraid of floods. We actually went into the flood zone.

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Because a lot of times you see those, too.

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But I noticed, though, Jace, when Jill was on the podcast, She quickly jumped in when we were gigging them about the orange hats. And so I realized that Jill is also a non-yes person in Zach's life. And so I think she was glad to have some company, like some other support system to make sure Zach doesn't think of himself more highly than he ought.

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But, you know, Jase, you're actually, you're saying, look, we're not for beaver welfare because go build your own huts. Don't take our building that we built, you know, for us to hunt.

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God be with you. So Al, we're trying to eat healthy. I'd love to know what is the latest home chef recipe that you've made?

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That's what I love about Home Chef. Most meal kits often market themselves as like an easy meal prep solution, but when you get it actually in the mail, it's a lot more difficult. I'm using this product as well. The recipes are super simple to make, and they're good. Home Chef delivers fresh ingredients and chef-designed recipes conveniently to your doorstep to simplify your cooking experience.

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Don't give a gift and start crying about it. I'm almost tempted to put up a picture of me and Al in our pajamas when we both walked in the same room with the same exact cozy earth pajama set on. Because I want to put the caption, who wore it better? Al, who would you say wore it better?

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Ep 1094 | Miss Kay Makes a New Friend, Phil Shines with the Holy Spirit & Jase Sees God’s Glory in It

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They change you as well. They change you. Speaking of taking care of moms here, we're going to break the fourth wall here. I'm probably going to have to leave in about 10 minutes because my wife, who's the mother of my children, may have appendicitis. So I got to take her to get a, what do they do, a CAT scan?

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Y'all carry. I'm going to leave in 10 minutes whenever she gets dropped off up here. And then. That's fine.

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Well, the greatest blessing we've ever received is honestly getting that little girl back.

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July 4th is coming up pretty soon. I don't know about you guys, but Black Mountain, where I live, turns into an all-out America festival on the 4th of July. I guess I do know about where you guys live. You guys celebrate, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know who else celebrates is Pure Talk, which is my wireless company.

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And again, we got 4th of July coming up. We got Flag Day. We got the U.S. Army birthday coming up, National PTSD Awareness Day. That's all right around the corner. Supporting this great cause is so easy, guys. Just switch your cell phone service to Pure Talk this month, and a portion of every cell will go to providing these high-quality flags to deserving veterans.

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Ep 1058 | Mia Ditches Spring Break to Hang with Dad, Lands a Great Job & Teaches Jase a New Sport

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So I just got back from a retreat, a men's retreat, and I slept on a mattress at a church camp. And I'm going to tell you right now, the mattress... Boys, it makes all the difference.

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Oh, it's ridiculous. Yeah. So I've been spoiled. We all have with our sponsor Helix mattress. That's what I have at the house. That's what I normally sleep on. And I mean, I ought to recommend that. I mean, sleep is I'm telling you, if I don't sleep good, everything else goes haywire. As I mentioned, we sleep on a Helix mattress at home.

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We took the super simple Helix sleep quiz and we were matched with the Midnight Luxe mattress. It's not too firm, not too soft. It's perfect for us because we're side sleepers and they take that into account. We've had our Helix mattress for a couple of years now, and really, it's been the best sleep that we've ever had. In fact, we're all a Helix family here.

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Myself, Jill, Al, Lisa, Jace, Missy, everybody sleeps on a Helix around here. Not only do you just sleep better in general, but on my Helix mattress, I also notice I have a lot less hip and shoulder pain. One of the things I miss most, as I mentioned when we're traveling, is our Helix mattress like I did this past weekend.

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I tracked down how much my sleep has improved on my sleep tracker, and I was shocked at how much better it is since I switched over to a Helix mattress. You can sleep better as well. Go to helixsleep.com slash unashamed for 20% off site-wide. That's helixsleep.com slash unashamed for 20% off site-wide. helixsleep.com slash unashamed.

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Don't give a gift and start crying about it. I'm almost tempted to put up a picture of me and Al in our pajamas when we both walked in the same room with the same exact cozy earth pajama set on. Because I want to put the caption, who wore it better? Al, who would you say wore it better?

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I would forego my ban on matching pajamas only if it's Cozy Earth, because Cozy Earth really does have the softest, most breathable pajamas and bedding for that matter. We got the sheets as well that you'll ever own. I'm telling you, though, the bamboo sheets have it's an absolute game changer. I promise you I'm using these sheets myself.

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You'll sleep like a rock because Cozy Earth, what it does, it keeps you cool when it's hot. and warm when it's chilly. I'm not sure how it works, but I'm telling you it works. And the best part is you can try Cozy Earth risk-free for 100 nights. And if you don't love them, you can send them right back. And their bedding is made from this fabric that won't peel. It's guaranteed for 10 years.

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You got to tass it. You got to finish.

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Ep 1054 | Jase Unplugs Himself for 6 Days Without Noticing & Do the Unborn Go to Heaven?

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I'm just saying, if you could double book and you're like, you need to send me.

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The Bible says, and they quote a passage out of Job that actually the context is, no, that's not the point. They were wrong. They were wrong, and we're quoting a scripture as if it's right.

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And you're using this, I assume, as a good parent as a teaching moment, I'm sure. Oh, yeah.

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I was wondering if they were, I heard you were going to be on it.

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Well, let us know as this progresses. Maybe Jace will wind up on the case.

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Well, the problem with living on a compound, which is what we call our place, Zach, is that we have three family units together. So all our dogs kind of have joined into the mix.

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Yeah. And that line has blurred, Jace. But we love the dogs. So, Zach, that's why it was cool to meet naturopathic Dr. Dennis Black. He created a product called Rough Greens to help take care of our dogs. He wants them to stay active and healthy for good, and so do we. We want to have them for a very long time so they won't develop skin issues, joint problems, or cancer.

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And those troubles are widely attributed to your dog's diet. The good news is Rough Greens is now the number one all-natural dog supplement in America with thousands of five-star reviews. They've helped millions of pups, including mine, stay healthy and active, and your pup could be next. And so I can say we have four dogs. We have Emmy.

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We have Rue, who was our first dog because she looks like a gumbo Rue, Jace. And both those are Labradoodles. And we have Libby, who is a blue heeler. She belonged to Tony and Phyllis. Somehow she wound up on my compound. Or dog pound, as Jay says as well. And then Meatball, of course, is Alex's dog. And they absolutely love it. And they literally line up when they know it's time to eat.

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Their coats have never looked better. So we're big fans. Dennis was right. We want you to check it out. Fetch a free Jumpstart trial bag for your dog today. You just cover shipping. By going to roughgreens.com, use the promo code unashamed. That's R-U-F-F greens.com, promo code unashamed. You don't have to change your dog's food to improve their health. Just add a scoop of Rough Greens.

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Matty, when this happens in post-production, this needs to be that sound in Law & Order when it's like boom, boom, boom.

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This is literally happening real time on the podcast.

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And I'm driving it. I have one truck that was totaled three times. I mean, total doesn't mean what you think it means because I had one that totaled out three times.

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Jace just took you into the woods, showed you some leaves, and said, see the toilet paper. That's it. That's what I did.

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Oh, it is. It's a good one. All right, good. So in the last podcast that we were studying this, you read through 24, I think, of chapter 7.

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Yeah, that's what it was because you left off with Moses.

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That's the line I use when I'm speaking, that I'm the only Robertson male that doesn't have a mistaken identity homeless story. I'm the only one. Everybody else has at least one.

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Some multiple. So we talked about this just to set it back into context. Jesus goes back to a healing story. That he did in John 5. Of course, the reason they say, is this goddamn, are you crazy? Because they weren't privy to everything that had happened before, but he's like, you know, I heal one guy on the Sabbath and y'all are losing your minds. Yeah, that's 21 when he says, I did one miracle.

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Well, we even talked about it when we were studying that context, that there was a pagan-like connection to that pool and the Greek gods. And so this thing was back... I mean, in other words, we think something else is going to come in to do this. So there was a deeper meaning behind it.

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Zach, we're all creatures of habit. We have our routines. We like the way we start the day, end the day. How do you start the day every morning?

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It's a great way to start your day. That's how I like to start the day. And I started on Passion Week. So there was a lot about the cross and a lot about the power of it. So it's meant a lot to me. Abide is the number one Christian meditation app. Its users report less stress, lower levels of anxiety and depression. and better sleep.

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Well, because murder, you're right, the murder came after because that's the natural result of when people take on being God, then they determine what values life and what doesn't. Zach, that was the point of your whole movie.

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Which, by the way, we call him Mickey FedEx because he worked, or I guess he still does, for FedEx. And so it's like everybody else, that becomes your name for life. And so he's always been.

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So Mother's Day is approaching, as we know, and so that makes us appreciate our moms and what they've done for us. And I have to say, all of us can say this, that the most thing we appreciate about our mom is that she carried us you know, for the first nine months and brought us into the world. I'd say that's a pretty good thing, Jace. I mean, I think that'd be pretty simple.

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Which a lot of my kids don't really love.

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He's like, no, I'm... They would say, appease the gods.

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If I was Solomon with a thousand wives. Yeah. Yeah, and what they say, we were talking about it because I call her our fat counselor, but our person from PhD that talks to you every week about the diet, she wanted to listen to a podcast. And so she asked me, and a lot of people have asked me this, they're like, well, which one stands out the most?

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He described it. What he's doing now is explaining what he described to the woman at the well in John 4, neither on this mountain. Yeah, because what was her question? What's the place? Where's the place? Where's the place of worship?

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And remember the question that led into it, and we'll leave with this. They asked, How did this man get such learning without having studied? That's what led Jesus into this, like, who? Where did he go to school? You know, why does he know? And he's trying to explain to him, look, you don't understand. I don't have to go to school. I wrote it. I came up with it.

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And that's exactly why we have to surrender ourselves.

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All right, well, we're out of time. We'll pick it up next time on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.

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Yeah, nobody's going to be filming you after that.

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So we put that. He used that. Yeah, it was like about 20 seconds of you walking up there and then looking in the hole, and there's the ball, which is pretty cool.

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You know, what's the one that, and I'm like, I can't, so I just sent a note to Maddie, I was like, Maddie, please send me like two or three good podcasts because I don't even know where to begin. And we, that led us into a,

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He said, here's what Jeff said. You're the most honest dude I know. I'm obviously kidding. Good shot, bro. I'm also jealous because I've never had one. So that was.

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Welcome back to Unashamed. We've been reliving old episodes here before we got started today, which has been fun.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just let it go. Let it soak in.

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Jason's first one was with a driver. It is. When people, I tell them that they laugh.

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It's the most amazing, uh, hole in one story.

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I don't know. In Bernice, where Willie was born. The birthplace of Willie Robertson.

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Because that's a 239 into the wind par threes. That's a bear, and you made a one. And he's like, you're the luckiest man alive.

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That has to be talked about. By the way, my line into the thread was, I bet I hear about this on the podcast tomorrow. That was my line.

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Now you're starting to think you're a golfer.

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So, there you go. So, there you go, Zach. Hole in one. Hole in one. In the video of the last few minutes. So, before we get to our text, Zach, I got to ask you one thing because your dad's in town. Yeah. He and Ann, his wife, came in to see mom and dad yesterday. And so... We had a good visit with them. They spent the night at my house.

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You mentioned this, I think, the last time we recorded, but we never got to it in the podcast. But you told us that your son towed your truck. And then he told me a little more of that story. So I wanted to hear how that happened because it sounded pretty bizarre. Now, your son, I will preface this by saying,

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And I'll say this before you tell the story, because I got, it was a message, because I hadn't played golf in a couple years. It's been a minute. But I got a message from our old golfing buddy, the old team, you know. The old team. And I was like, man, I hadn't talked to these guys in like years. And then there's a video of you, and so I'll let you tell the story.

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is from the time he was a very small lad, I'm talking about two or three years old, has always had what I would call destructive tendencies. He sees things that work properly and perfectly, and then he sets into them and they become destroyed. I mean, that's just been his legacy up to now. He's an explorer. That's what he does. He likes to explore. Okay. He was named after Bear Brat.

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I might could help him with that. Another case for Judge Jace.

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I didn't realize I was getting into all that.

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Yeah. Well, before we read this, because I realize Deuteronomy – It can be difficult. Just because this was Israel's culture, and I actually got this from the scholarly world, because I was like, when you had that Deuteronomy 7 here, and the reason I was drawn to read this and do this, just look in big picture for a second, is because even when we read that in Isaiah,

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You know, what I found is those chapters talking about what Zach had just said, this was God's plan to choose Israel even before the beginning of time. Yeah. To bring about Jesus, who is a Jew, and I'm using present tense because Jesus is the I am, and he's still a man. I mean, and when it said this same Jesus in Acts 1 who you see like post-resurrection, right?

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Now, he's a glorified man with a new body that has a lot of bells and whistles, but it's also a picture of what our new body will be like. Think 1 John 3, where it says that he's going to change as the children of God, which the original children of God was the nation of Israel. You fast forward to 1 John 3, well, we're called sons of... and daughters of God, the children of God.

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Think Galatians 3 and Galatians 4. It uses the same terminology. But what I found fascinating was that this shadow story of Moses freeing the Israelites, obviously God was doing it through Moses himself, that became a shadow to really what Jesus was going to do for the whole world. Exactly.

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And the reason I thought this was important, Al, did you realize that in the book of John, Moses is referenced 13 times?

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I did not realize that it was that big a number. Well, just start thinking back. Remember John 1 where it was like, The law and, what does it say, John 1, came through Moses. Yeah, it mentions right there in verse 13 or 413. Grace and truth. And then one of his followers, Philip, I think, in the conversation with Nathaniel in 145, it's like, we have found the one to fulfill what Moses wrote.

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A quote from Deuteronomy. That's where I was going with this. In 314, you remember as Moses lifted up the bronze snake? You remember that? Well, then in 545, you remember the conversation? It's like when Jesus said – Moses wrote about me.

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You know, you believe that the scriptures give you eternal life, but you don't realize the scriptures were about me, but he referenced what Moses wrote about, you know, that's 545, 546. Well, then in 632, where we're at now in John six, the same scripture,

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the manna that came from heaven now i'm the bread alive but he mentions moses specifically and look in the next chapter it's in 7 19 7 22 7 23 he mentions him in 8 5 and also in 9 28 and 29 so and also it made me realize that even in the book of acts in chapter three you know once the spirits poured out they start preaching jesus Well, in Stephen's sermon in Acts 7, there's a whole Moses section.

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And they're using that as an illustration of Jesus fulfilling this, this new creation, new freedom, just like the Israelites were freed from Egypt. It's like the new exodus. I mean, it's the new creation and the new exodus.

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It was shrinking powder that you could put on humans and pets so that you would be much substantially larger than them.

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I wanted to be the first person to carry around my brothers in my pocket.

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No, I do too. And look, when I went down this rabbit hole of like how much Moses is referenced, I mean, think, look, think Hebrews. So he's in the Hall of Fame chapter in 11. But also there's this chapter three in Hebrews that the whole section is about why Jesus is better than Moses, right? And even if I were to read that, it hits on the exact thing that you're talking about here.

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And my point for doing this is that You know, we did a few podcasts ago when we were starting John 6. I don't know, that might be a month ago. We've been in John 6 so long. But we talked about how there's so many arguments and disagreements that come from John 6. And my whole point for doing this and even going to Deuteronomy is to realize kind of the context of where Jesus is coming from.

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And it is wrapped around Jesus. the Jewish history as being God's chosen people. And it's amazing when you read the whole book of Deuteronomy, you see a lot of things in there about wrath and judgment because here's God married to this nation and he was faithful even in their rebellion to one day produce hope through becoming a man, Jesus. in that heritage.

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And I think it helps explain a lot of the subtle things and a lot of these arguments that people disagree on. I think it's like they've detached the history of what this is all about and just looked at it like, oh, this is to me as an individual here in America 2,000 years later, and they're not getting the context of it. So that's why I was pursuing that.

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But just to read the Hebrews 3, when he says, therefore... In verse 1, who share in the heavenly calling, brothers who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus. And it says, he was faithful, verse 2, speaking of Jesus, he was faithful to the one who appointed him just as Moses was faithful in all God's house.

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Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as the builder of a house, has greater honor than the house itself. For every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything. Moses was faithful as a servant in all God's house. What house is he? He's talking about Israel's house. Testifying to what

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would be said in the future, but Christ is faithful as a son over God's house, and I love this next sentence, and we are his house if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast. So having said all that, just to give you an overall view of Deuteronomy, and I think most scholars agree with this, the first 11 chapters are the story of

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retold about their exodus, their freedom, their liberation by God's design. From the hardening of Pharaoh's heart, which we said earlier, is just basically allowing him to not... want the presence of God. I mean, it's this idea of giving them over.

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Well, and part of that, yeah, is you don't want – like, I mean, in that story of freedom, which they even to this day celebrate – the parting of the Red Sea and the liberation. But part of that is, you know, you had all the laws and commands because you're in a relationship. And in any relationship, there's expectations here. There's a covenant.

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Which is why this all started from Isaiah 54 and 55, but Isaiah 54 is kind of a picture of the new covenant that Jesus would introduce. And look, oh, by the way, Isaiah 55, and this is all after the suffering servant in Isaiah 53. Here's Jesus going to be put on a cross and marred beyond human likeness on a cross for us. Well, Isaiah 55 gives a picture of new creation.

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At the end of it, it starts talking about the trees singing. It's like a picture of the new covenant. Well, Deuteronomy is similar in that when you read the Ten Commandments, which I read the whole book of Deuteronomy, and I was kind of fascinated by it because it's like, you know, basically it's their story. But God lays out, and nothing he laid out, think of the Ten Commandments.

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None of this is, from a cultural standpoint, like something crazy. He's like, you know, if I'm going to be your God, you'll have no other gods before me. That makes sense, because in reality, what can these other gods do anyway? I mean, there's one God, and he focuses on that, you know. And, you know, you shall not make idols for yourself.

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He kind of gives a little bit of commentary on what that first commandment is all about. But then it's like, you shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, you know. Because, I mean, that'd be like, you know, I'm married to my wife, and then I'm misusing her name. Well, I would never do that out of respect for her, you know, or call her.

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derogatory things or whatever and uh then the sabbath he he i skipped one somewhere uh because the sabbath is fourth is fourth you know which one did i mean oh oh it's you should have no other guys before me then you should all have your set well he kind of gives paragraph versions in deuteronomy so the idols what is the second commandment i don't know i need to get that right hang on man

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I think I had it right. Yeah. Yeah, so you shall have no other gods before me, one. Two, you shouldn't bow down to idols. Three, shouldn't misuse the name of the Lord God. Observe the Sabbath, which was in Deuteronomy's commentary on it. It was basically so that you could reflect on your newfound freedom.

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Yeah. And so then five is honor your father and mother, which goes into the point Zach made, that it may go well with you, but it also is a way to train yourself you know, the family for future generations, having this respect for parents and passing it on to your kids.

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Then you shall not murder. Well, okay. Yeah, I think that would help society. Yeah. You shall not commit adultery. Just think, this is a marriage contract, basically. You shall not steal. You shall not give false testimony about your neighbor. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife. I mean, there they are. I think this is called imaging God, who you're married to, as a nation.

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And that's going to influence the world around you and the other nations who are bowing down to other gods, who are murdering each other, who are having adultery. And so to get back to my outline, so Genesis 1-11 is the whole story. including the Ten Commandments, but 11 through 26 is basically like trusting what he says, these laws.

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So that's going to be the foreshadowing of Jesus coming as the Word of God. And even I wrote this down in John 6, 50, 51, just to see, kind of make my point. John 6, 50 and 51, you could make a case, before we read this in Deuteronomy, For this being a statement made by Jesus, that's the exact opposite of what happened going all the way back to the garden. This kind of hit me.

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I didn't read this in a book. I was just reading it again. But he said, but here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which a man may eat and not die. I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. Well, you remember what God said in the garden? He's like, if you eat of that tree, of the knowledge of good and evil, you will die.

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And now here's Jesus making this statement. I am the living bread, something you eat, that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. It's like the opposite statement. He's like the fulfillment of where it all went wrong. And so then the last section in Deuteronomy is the blessings and curses. that come from trusting what he says as God's partner.

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And what's fascinating about it is it's literally what happened at the end of Genesis. When you read the last couple of chapters in Genesis, it's all about the blessings and curses of whether you decide to image God or whether you decide to deconstruct yourself and be your own God or follow other gods. And then, you know, who was that that died at the end of Genesis? Jacob? Joseph. Joseph, yeah.

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So then Joseph dies at the end of Genesis. And then here, Deuteronomy kind of mirrors Genesis 1 through 11, really. And at the end, Moses dies. But it's still the blessings and curses. It's like a mirror image of the end of Genesis, which is really fascinating. Yeah. And I used to think, oh, if I do right, God will bless me.

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Or I may just be cursed from the start, which is what a lot of people teach. But you get a different picture when you read the book of Genesis and you read the book of Deuteronomy and then you read something like John 6. It's like, if you choose not to do this, well, this is what happens. If you choose to do this, and I'm going to prove it in the book of Deuteronomy. So that's my setup.

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Because we're going to read Deuteronomy 7 first, and then I'm going to read a couple of sections in chapter 30 and 32 about the blessings and curses. And I think it will answer a lot of arguments that people have when it comes to John 6.

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Which makes sense that God made a promise, and God's going to fulfill this promise. And this promise was from the beginning. And it's that basic layout. He's going to, you know, man... decides not to trust what God says.

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And you also are introduced to these celestial beings who have also made their decision not to be imagers of God because they, you know, God has a family in heaven of these celestial beings. And then here's humans. We're the family on earth. You see this, and they're supposed to interact.

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So I want to skip to the blessings and curses section. So this is kind of after the story's been told and the. The marriage covenant with God's chosen people and what they're supposed to image, represent Him. And remember that common phrase that you'll see in the first 11 chapters is that God would be dwelling with His people.

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And then I'm skipping over this section about trusting what He says and the laws, the reasons for the commands. Because if you're imaging God, you're doing what His nature is, which is why you have the commands of God and the laws. Right? Yeah.

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And that's why I read those, because it's not like they're things that we can all agree would make way less chaos and way less self-destruction on our earth if everybody would. have one man, one woman for life, and there was no adultery or no murder or no bowing down to gods that are not God. I mean, all these things make sense.

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So when you go to chapter 30, and I just... I mean, we're going to give you a thumbnail here, but I want to read some of this. So in verse 1, it says, When all these blessings and curses I have set before you... That's why I brought that up, and that's why I wanted to come here. And it's not hard to figure out. You either... You either are faithful to God as he is faithful or you're not.

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There's blessings as a result of one decision and there's curses as the result of the other. So he brings that up here. He says, when all these blessings and curses I've said before you come upon you and you take them to heart. Well, it's so crazy that he starts talking about the heart. Think about how much Jesus talked about the heart.

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And he says, wherever the Lord your God disperses you among the nations. So there's going to be a dispersion, which think Matthew 28, when Jesus comes and bringing the nations back together, when he's like all authority on heaven and earth has been given to me, therefore go make disciples of all nations.

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And when you, verse two of Deuteronomy 30, and your children return to the Lord your God and obey him with all your, there's that word again, heart, And with all your soul, according to everything I command you today, then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you.

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You fast forward to John, and Jesus is like, I'm that guy. You remember Moses wrote Deuteronomy. That was about me. This is me. Restoration, freedom happening one day. Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the Lord your God will gather you and bring you back.

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He will bring you to that land that belonged to your fathers, and you will take possession of it. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers. The Lord God, watch, will circumcise your hearts. and the hearts of your descendants so that you may love him with all your heart and with all your soul and live. Does this sound familiar? Circumcision becoming a spiritual thing.

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Loving God. Remember when Jesus said the whole law can be summed up. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. The Lord God, verse 7, will put all these curses on your enemies who hate and persecute you because you know what that means because they hate and persecute God. You will again obey the Lord and follow all His commands I'm giving you today.

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Then the Lord your God will make you most prosperous. I want to skip down and read verse 11. Because look, he has this offer. This is my favorite movie in the, I brought this up before, in the, what movie was that? The Good, Bad, and the Ugly? No. In the movie Outlaw Josie Wells at the end when Clint Eastwood meets up with 10 bears and he gives him the words of life and the words of death.

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And he's like, it shall be like. You know where they got that from? Deuteronomy 30. So he says, now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach. I love this phrase, Zach. It is not up in heaven so that you have to ask, who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it? You know why I'm reading this?

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Because 10 times Jesus said, this came from heaven. I came down from heaven. Because you can't ascend to heaven and get this. So I don't know where we got off on this deal, but somehow we got to get off this place and get to heaven so we can get something that God's offering. It just seems to be in total contrary to what this is saying.

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Exactly. So we're running out of time, and I'm going to get to that. I'm going to get to that. But I want to finish reading that, because with your point, I'm fixing to make, because the last chapter in Deuteronomy in 34 is about Moses' death. You remember that? And he's like, I'm not going to let you cross over. And God buried him. And then there's this little paragraph that's like Moses...

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was honored as a prophet, and he was known as to have seen God face to face, which is why Moses was so upheld by the Jewish nation, which is why they're now having these conflicts with Jesus himself, because they have their trust in Moses. In fact, when we get to chapter 8 and 9, they're going to say, we're disciples of Moses, right? And he's saying, hey, you think Moses was something?

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Well, since we're confessing our sins, I was up in Nashville, and I tried this surprise, which didn't go real well. However, you know, it was the experience itself. I mean, participating in Resurrection Sunday, because really every day is Resurrection Day for believers. I mean, you just told the story. I mean, it's happening, as Zach always says.

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I'm God's son. And you see the glimpse of this in the next verse in Deuteronomy 30 where he says, verse 13, nor is it beyond the sea that you have to ask, who will cross the sea and get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it? No, the word is very near you. It is in your mouth and in your heart. So you may obey it.

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I mean, think Romans 10 and 9 that we always quote, you know, that is, it's with your mouth that you confess Jesus Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him down. raised him from the dead. But this all goes back to God's plan through Jewish history, through Moses and through people like Moses, Abraham, as you mentioned now, to bring Jesus. So let me keep reading verse 15.

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See, I set before you today, life and prosperity, death and destruction. There's your two choices. When you talk about blessings or curses or when does that happen, look how he framed that. I set this before you today. I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in his ways, to keep his commands, decrees, and laws. Then you will live and increase, and the Lord your God will bless you.

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In the land you are entering. But if your heart turns away and you're not obedient, and if you're drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, I declare to you that this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.

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This day I call heaven and earth, interesting phrase, as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death. Blessings and curses. Now choose life. Let me read that again. Now choose life so that you and your children may live and that you may love the Lord your God.

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Listen to his voice and hold fast to him for the Lord is your life and he will give you many years in the land he swore to give your fathers Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. So then you go to chapter 32 in Moses' song. I just want to read a couple excerpts out of this. in verse 3, it says, I will proclaim the name of the Lord. Oh, praise the greatness of our God. He is the rock.

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His works are perfect, and all His ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright, and just as He. Just put an exclamation point there. God is not the problem. He's not created all this disorder. He's kind of gone through this. I'll rescue you. I'll have mercy. I've chosen you. Here's the way to reflect me. You get into the laws and commands.

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And then here are the blessings as a result of trusting me. And here are the curses if you don't. So then it says, verse five, they have acted corruptly towards him to their shame. They are no longer his children. Well, who moved? They moved. They did. They were not faithful, but a warped and crooked generation. Is this the way you repay the Lord, O foolish and unwise people?

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I love this next verse. Is he not your father, your creator, who made you and formed you? And so if I skip down to verse 9, it says, for the Lord's portion is his people. And he uses Jacob as kind of like the father of Israel in this. But then he skips down in verse 15 and he uses this name Jezreel as like the picture of those who didn't, of Israel, who didn't, you know, trust him.

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And so that little section there is where we get a lot of information. And I just wanted to read a couple of other excerpts. In verse 12, the Lord alone led him. No foreign guy was with him. That's the ones that trusted that Jacob was representing. He made him ride on the heights of the land and fed him with the fruit of the fields. He nourished him. Here's the blessings.

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Look, he nourished him with honey from the rock. That's where that song came from. And then when you get down to those who didn't, in verse 15, it says, O Jezron, they grew fat and kicked.

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now and later i mean we because of the resurrection we can be new creations on on the planet and so uh i got to you know go to nashville and be with my family and which was awesome and i have a similar story i mean i remember when i met reed's wife who was girlfriend at the time and i remember i did the typical investigation and the questions you know you know does this this woman

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They grew fat. They were filled with food, became heavy and sleek. They abandoned God who made him and rejected the rock as his savior. They made him jealous with their foreign gods and ain't angered him with their detestable idols. They sacrificed the demons, which are not God gods. They had not known gods that recently appeared. God, your fathers did not fear.

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And the reason I read that is because of, uh, In 32.8, it gives reference to what Zach had referenced about the sons of God. When it says, When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided it up to all mankind, he set boundaries for the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.

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And some translation says Israel, but they found the most ancient manuscripts that said sons of God because he's going back to the... to the tower of Babel. Well, Israel wasn't even a nation then. So that's when you get in these celestial beings that had fallen from heaven or whatever. And I think they have a point. So anyway, the last thing I'll read is 32, 10.

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I mean, 32, 18, where it says, you deserted the rock who fathered you. You forgot the God who gave you birth. And so I just wanted to say, then it gets into the end about Moses' death like Genesis. It just seems like that pattern is what God fulfilled in Jesus to get all people and all nations under one umbrella, which is Jesus Christ, and think Ephesians 1.

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And I think when you look at it from the grid that it came from, you're going to spend a lot less time arguing about little details in there about talking about how God would draw people and Judas betraying. And I just think that's the grid God uses. He loves you. He has mercy on you. He's faithful the whole time. And you have a choice to either trust Him or not.

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And there's blessings that's going to come from whatever choice you make.

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Love Jesus, you know, because I'm like, you're talking about this is getting serious. You're going to spend the rest of your life. Of course, now fast forward a few years and three grandkids later, and I'm like, oh, she was for my son. I had it backwards, you know. I mean, she is a wonderful, her name is so right. And it's weird because she actually listens to the podcast.

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So I told a funny story that happened to me. Speaking of confessing your sins, that's where I was making the connection. Yeah. Not really a sin. It was just something really stupid I did. And I told this story when we were all gathered up for a meal, and they thought it was hilarious, which I wasn't really telling it to be funny. I just thought, you're not going to believe.

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Because we were talking about how the older you get – You can't remember things quite like you used to, you know. And so before I left on this whirlwind of a trip, going to do an event and then going off to Nashville and all that, the night before I went and visited my mom and dad. which we have them together, which is the kind of the goal of their condition right now.

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And they've been doing so much better now that they're finally together. Cause my mom was in the hospital for, I don't know how long, how long, a couple of months and it was looking dicey. And, uh, and my dad, you know, mentally, he's just not clicking on all cylinders and physically he's got a lot of problems, but, uh, but we have them together. And so I was visiting them and, uh,

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I say that they're doing so much better, but they still have some tough days. And the day I went and visited them by myself, it was just a tough evening. And so I wound up staying there for a few hours, about three hours, I guess. Well, you know, when I left, I was hungry. And I usually, you know, I don't eat at fast food places in general. And I never have now.

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I think it's just because of the way we were raised. And I just soon do it myself. And when I'm a bachelor and Missy's gone, I usually kind of live off the land. I mean, I go catch fish. I get the eggs from the hen house. And that's just kind of what I do. What do you call it, Jay?

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Yeah, I go to God's grocery store and just live. And I take pride in it. And so... But in that moment, I hadn't eaten since breakfast. I had been here and I was like, you know what? I started thinking the few things that I like in the fast food, or I don't even know if this qualifies as fast food, but Outback has some, as an appetizer, they have... one little shrimp configuration.

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I think it's called coconut shrimp. And they sell ahi tuna, which is, I mean, they just go get some tuna from somewhere and cut it up. So good. Oh, it's good. So I said, you know what? I'm going to go do this. So I take off. And what's funny is I hadn't been to a restaurant in so long, and I hadn't been to Outback. I mean, it's been a while. And so I went in.

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Do you know how they have the little call in? You can call and pick it up. But I didn't even know. I didn't even want to go down the road of trying to call this place. So I said, I'll just drive over there, walk in and say, I want to order something to take out. So when I pulled in, I thought, well, that's weird.

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Because the last time I was here, they had the pickup for call in orders on the other side of the parking lot. Should have known right there something was wrong.

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So I thought, why would you move that? I was already griping, you know. So I drive over and I was like, oh, here's the, you know how they have little signs that you pull in? So I pulled in. Walk in. to the pickup area. And I say, okay. You know, I'm terrible in the, because like my wife, the most angry she gets at me is if we ever have to go through a drive-thru and like talk through the machine.

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I just don't do well. You know, because I like want to have an icebreaker and ask them how it's going.

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Yeah, it causes confusion. So I get it. There's a problem I have. So anyway, I'll go in and I'll say, all right, I want the, because I'm not looking at a menu or anything. I'm just trying to go from here. I said, I want to order these coconut shrimp. And she said, we don't have that. I said, are you kidding me? I was like, that is one of the best things that you have to offer.

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That and the other thing I'm going to order. She made a statement that didn't make any sense. She said, we've never had that. And so then when she said that, I said, well, I can tell that you're new. But at one time, you had this.

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Yeah, that was a staple, you know. And so I was like, so that is very unfortunate. And I said, and really, I'm inclined just to walk out that door. Because I wanted her to go tell management, this guy was really upset that we're no longer carrying the coconut shrimp. But when she said, never. So I was like, okay, well, let me just get two orders. of your ahi tuna. They have a little salad.

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She said, we don't have that. I was like, this place is literally falling apart. And I said, well, let me just, now I'm kind of angry to tell you the truth. I was like, let's go back to issue one. I will bet you $1,000 that at one time you had coconut shrimp. What do you think? And she's just looking at me dumbfounded. And I was like, all right, forget it. You don't want to bet.

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Because I thought, you know, you said you've never had it. And so when she said that, I was like, well, this is crazy. And then she asked a pivotal question, kind of Jesus style. She said, where do you think you're at? Oh, no. And I looked around.

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But you know what I thought in that moment?

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They're next door to each other. But you know what I thought in that moment? I thought of John Six. I thought, They missed the signs. They missed the signs.

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Cocky is not a strong enough word because this woman, then I looked at it from her perspective. She's angry. You know what? I don't blame her. I'm just a bumbling, homeless idiot in her mind. She don't know who I am, doesn't care, and I have literally, I need professional help because I'm trying to order.

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Well, now, to my knowledge, I don't know if I've ever eaten at Chili's, but now I feel the guilt. And I thought – because I started to walk out. I mean, like, literally started. I walked halfway to the door, and I thought – because she – I look back at her, and she's like, after all that, you're just going to leave? Wow. And that'll preach right there, Josh. He said, do you have a menu?

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And I got the menu, and I was like, I'm not – now I'm speeding up. They had some huge, giant burger, and I was like, I want one of those – They had some chips and some kind of salsa. That's good.

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So I went ahead and did it and gave her the maximum tip that was offered, whatever. And, I mean, I got the bill, and I was like – Tears were shed. It was like $40-something. And generally, I would say, I think you need to recheck that. But I was like, you know what – Even if it's wrong. It was terrible. I was like, I cannot believe I just did this. So I thought y'all would find that funny.

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I mean, I did that. I don't know if that's a sign. I missed the signs. You missed the signs. But I got a meal, which was the goal, and it was an adventure. I mean, I'd have rather had the ahi tuna, but we made it work. We made it work. Yeah, and it was a funny story for my family. So, Al, where do we leave off?

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We'll call him Dr. Langhofer. Or his dad called him Cliffhanger. Yeah, Cliffhanger. Oh, Cliffhanger.

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Because this is what you do. You just throw numbers out. I threw a number out.

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You were saying it's time to panic. We got water coming in. It was time to panic.

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So now you've called her a legalist. Well, because yeah, yeah.

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So the problem, this whole thing is you, it's all in what your name is. Silas Merritt is our uncle. Jason Silas is this man. Reed Silas is his son. All prone to massive exaggeration. I will admit that. It's something about the name.

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Which is, that's why Missy and Jill are two of my favorite guests on the Unshamed podcast because I love to nurture that spark.

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I would concur. If there's anything, if the Tower of Babel on earth, it's in that room 20 feet over.

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No, but look, to get to something good, as a counselor told me years ago, to get to a good place, you have to go through conflict to get there.

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doesn't care that's it they don't care that's called withdrawal jay's if you get over withdraw if you had if you had one of those venn diagrams if you put those circles withdrawal is the place you get to that's you don't want to be now conflict is a place you're still passionate working together intimacy and conflict together is using the best yeah it is it is good to deal with it yeah i mean and look and then then i mean a couple days later it's like

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When we have Missy the next time on Unashamed Podcast, trust me, Unashamed Nation, we will get her side of this story.

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Zach's been wearing an orange hat ever since, so that's what happens when you go there.

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All right, so we're getting back to John.

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Welcome to Unashamed, Jill. This is what we do.

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Which is one of the reasons why it's a difficult text because he's breaking down every argument through the process. Because trust me, these people were legalists.

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Zach was describing the Olivet Discourse. I went into the ontological.

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Which is why I think he winds up just a little fast forward to the end when he says, eat my flesh, drink my blood. And it sounded so crazy, but from his perspective, he was telling them, it's about me. Oh, he's onto it.

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I mean, he stood there with loaves, and he's breaking them apart, and he's giving it to the 12, and they're going to deliver it. And just imagine, it's just piling up underneath. I mean, he's got five finite loaves. that he just infinitely fed 10,000 people with, and they picked up 12 basketfuls at his feet. I mean, that's the kind of power we're talking about in the moment.

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Well, that goes against... And it shows you their misunderstanding of the Messiah, the whole thing they misunderstood.

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He was probably doing some eschatology studies.

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He was just dropping a little hint on what was about to happen.

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But signs always point to a person. Have you ever pulled up behind somebody and they've got 17 bumper stickers on the back of their car? It's big in Asheville. And so typically, if you're leaning one way or the other on a political bent, there's the board. So you only needed one for me to figure out who the person was driving the car. But with 17, I got it. I got you.

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I got what you're trying to say, but the signs are only pointing to the person and what their belief system is. That's exactly what he's trying to tell them here. You keep wanting another bumper sticker. We got it if you figure out who the person is.

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It's like we talked about in the last podcast. Once you understand that, then you're ready for any season. We've been talking about end-of-life stuff because, you know, we're dealing a lot of stuff with mom and dad. But I used to remember all the time when I was with families and we were in end-of-life settings, I always had to tell them, look, this isn't about right and wrong on decisions.

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This is about living and making decisions. Mm-hmm. And there's a trust factor. So that's why Paul said, we don't grieve like the rest of men who have no hope. When we understand that heaven has come to earth and the spirit of God lives in us, we're ready for any season. And that means end of life. That means crossing over. That means all of it.

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We have the same confidence and hope going into every situation.

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And it's, it, I will say that's the beauty of a small group setting, as opposed to, you could walk into an assembly somewhere at a big building and nobody would ever know you're hiding in there, but you can't hide when it's clippity clop in the kitchen.

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Oh, it's coming. That's why you want to raise your family. your children, your progeny, to have this bigger mindset of heaven and earth because they're going to be in that position one day. And the last thing you want to have them doing is questioning every decision they make about their parents, about their grandparents.

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Once you see that bigger picture of who God is, you realize that we go through any season. We do that together by God's Spirit, by the power of God.

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It's always a pleasure to have you on Unashamed.

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We'll keep working on your marriage.

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We have a system. We're becoming a problem to the rest of the residents, apparently.

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Right. Because he's been so much calmer since she came back in.

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She's had kind of a Cruella de Vil look here lately.

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It wasn't accidental. You never end up there.

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I do, and what I love about what Todd did was, you know, over 20 years of traveling to these restricted nations is what they're called because, you know, Christians are under duress in all these different places. He tells stories in this devotional about his interactions with these people.

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And I find them to be super inspiring because I think we think sometimes in terms of persecution is all, well, yeah, that happened way back in the Bible. But it happens every single day around the world. And the stories of what people do to defend their faith are powerful. And that's what this book is about. And it's free.

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As Zach said, it's remarkable stories that help you reflect on your own life. We're very blessed to live in the time and the place that we do. But we got to remember our brothers and sisters around the world.

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Voice of the Martyrs, a wonderful organization that's been a blessing to us for many years, is offering this, and you can request your free copy of When Faith is Forbidden by calling 844-463-4059. That's 844-463-4059. Or you can visit vom.org slash unashamed. That's vom.org slash unashamed for your free copy of Todd's book.

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Which confirms our theory that Jace has dementia as well. He's just gotten used to it. Yeah, you speak dementia.

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Yeah, but try to fly in that. Yeah, I'm fully aware of the big storm. Tornadoes, right? Oh, terrible.

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Sorry, Jill. Some people have to drive while the rest of us are driving. Let the man tell his story.

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Now, this has come from the guy who fixed the dishwasher by putting it on the center block. Done. And guess what?