Zach Dasher

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. Jason, on the last podcast, you talked about doing a lot of... extraneous sounding things with heavy duck blinds and launching boats. And I was just curious. So how do you feel? How do you physically feel today?

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. Jason, on the last podcast, you talked about doing a lot of... extraneous sounding things with heavy duck blinds and launching boats. And I was just curious. So how do you feel? How do you physically feel today?

Matty, keep a running tally on amazing names. Yeah, we'll have a lot of those. That'd be an interesting little name search on where that came from.

Matty, keep a running tally on amazing names. Yeah, we'll have a lot of those. That'd be an interesting little name search on where that came from.

Get it? All right. We need to read it more. Speaking of Bible, Jase, since we know Mr. Bible is listening to our podcast.

Get it? All right. We need to read it more. Speaking of Bible, Jase, since we know Mr. Bible is listening to our podcast.

Seriously, just me telling you that? That's exactly right. We're surrounded by water. I mean, you want people that are out there monitoring the water to be Bible men.

Seriously, just me telling you that? That's exactly right. We're surrounded by water. I mean, you want people that are out there monitoring the water to be Bible men.

What if you were an atheist and your name was Bible? That'd be a tough, you'd be a conflicted individual. I'm not sure it's possible. Yeah, it'd be weird. All right, so we want to get back into the Bible. Zach, do you want to do that? Or you got any words of wisdom? You got any moments to share with us? I got nothing better than John 7. Well, this is breaking news.

What if you were an atheist and your name was Bible? That'd be a tough, you'd be a conflicted individual. I'm not sure it's possible. Yeah, it'd be weird. All right, so we want to get back into the Bible. Zach, do you want to do that? Or you got any words of wisdom? You got any moments to share with us? I got nothing better than John 7. Well, this is breaking news.

We are. And it's a fantastic text as well. But we explain why we spent so much time on John 6. But we're going to take that next step in terms of where Jesus is headed. And so I guess I'll just open up and read these first few verses and then we can kind of get into the discussion. Because it's really interesting.

We are. And it's a fantastic text as well. But we explain why we spent so much time on John 6. But we're going to take that next step in terms of where Jesus is headed. And so I guess I'll just open up and read these first few verses and then we can kind of get into the discussion. Because it's really interesting.

This is the first time in the book of John that we kind of get a look at his earthly family other than his mom. who, of course, we read about back in John 2.

This is the first time in the book of John that we kind of get a look at his earthly family other than his mom. who, of course, we read about back in John 2.

Specifically, it does bring up his family in a couple other contexts, but you wasn't sure who exactly that was. But you're right. It's the only time he mentions them specifically is right here. And it wasn't really good for them.

Specifically, it does bring up his family in a couple other contexts, but you wasn't sure who exactly that was. But you're right. It's the only time he mentions them specifically is right here. And it wasn't really good for them.

So one of the things we've always been able to appreciate about mom is she made our home a home. I mean, she cooked for us. She took care of us. You know, she made sure we got what we needed. Dad was always, you know, in the woods kind of guy. But mom was at the home kind of person. And that's why we love her. And that's why, you know, Mother's Day is special for us.

So one of the things we've always been able to appreciate about mom is she made our home a home. I mean, she cooked for us. She took care of us. You know, she made sure we got what we needed. Dad was always, you know, in the woods kind of guy. But mom was at the home kind of person. And that's why we love her. And that's why, you know, Mother's Day is special for us.

Well, we do. And it's from our good friends at Cozy Earth because mom spends a lot of days lounging now. And so we want her to be comfortable and we're getting her something from Cozy Earth because we love it.

Well, we do. And it's from our good friends at Cozy Earth because mom spends a lot of days lounging now. And so we want her to be comfortable and we're getting her something from Cozy Earth because we love it.

And one more step, James, who is kind of the early sort of main church leader in Acts 15, is the same James that wrote the book of James, most scholars think. And they think that was Jesus' earthly brother as well. So, yeah, I mean, to your point, obviously, something changed them dramatically.

And one more step, James, who is kind of the early sort of main church leader in Acts 15, is the same James that wrote the book of James, most scholars think. And they think that was Jesus' earthly brother as well. So, yeah, I mean, to your point, obviously, something changed them dramatically.

So that's the setting as we go into this. Let me read it and we'll kind of get into this. So it says after this, which is everything we've been talking about for quite a while. Jesus went around in Galilee purposely staying away from Judea, which is where Jerusalem is, by the way, because the Jews there were waiting to take his life.

So that's the setting as we go into this. Let me read it and we'll kind of get into this. So it says after this, which is everything we've been talking about for quite a while. Jesus went around in Galilee purposely staying away from Judea, which is where Jerusalem is, by the way, because the Jews there were waiting to take his life.

So Jesus obviously knows what's going on and it's gotten dangerous. And which you don't think of this like he's hiding because he came here to die. So he knows what's going to happen. It's just not his time yet. for this to happen. That's why it's waiting.

So Jesus obviously knows what's going on and it's gotten dangerous. And which you don't think of this like he's hiding because he came here to die. So he knows what's going to happen. It's just not his time yet. for this to happen. That's why it's waiting.

Chase, have you ever thought maybe it's doing nothing? Maybe it's just $49.99.

Chase, have you ever thought maybe it's doing nothing? Maybe it's just $49.99.

Yeah. And none of the rulers of this age understood it.

Yeah. And none of the rulers of this age understood it.

And I love the way you tied in the fear there because immediately they were afraid. Remember, that was the first instinct they had. And they hadn't even died yet. They hadn't even seen death yet.

And I love the way you tied in the fear there because immediately they were afraid. Remember, that was the first instinct they had. And they hadn't even died yet. They hadn't even seen death yet.

If you think about it, if you think about it, Zach, the hardest people probably to convince would be the ones who watch you grow up because they know everything about you. And, and what, what in the human vernacular, what we don't understand is maybe being beyond our capabilities. We just call weird.

If you think about it, if you think about it, Zach, the hardest people probably to convince would be the ones who watch you grow up because they know everything about you. And, and what, what in the human vernacular, what we don't understand is maybe being beyond our capabilities. We just call weird.

But you know why, Jase? You know why? Because the man has cooked so many big, huge chunks of meat hundreds of times. So he's been through all that.

But you know why, Jase? You know why? Because the man has cooked so many big, huge chunks of meat hundreds of times. So he's been through all that.

Which to your analogy, if somebody understands everything you've ever dealt with and they can give you a solution, that's the guy you want to listen to.

Which to your analogy, if somebody understands everything you've ever dealt with and they can give you a solution, that's the guy you want to listen to.

Well, I don't know the number, but you're right. And the reason I know you're right is because they do these PSAs now, these public service announcement videos the government does all the time or state government. about don't text and drive. You arrive alive. Don't text and drive. So you wouldn't have these things going on if there weren't danger associated with what you're talking about.

Well, I don't know the number, but you're right. And the reason I know you're right is because they do these PSAs now, these public service announcement videos the government does all the time or state government. about don't text and drive. You arrive alive. Don't text and drive. So you wouldn't have these things going on if there weren't danger associated with what you're talking about.

Because I'm not there in studio with you, but what you were describing to men our age, and I'm putting this both together, sounds like it could be a bit taxing.

Because I'm not there in studio with you, but what you were describing to men our age, and I'm putting this both together, sounds like it could be a bit taxing.

Oh, well, you can trust them more than AI because, trust me, they're making some cha-ching.

Oh, well, you can trust them more than AI because, trust me, they're making some cha-ching.

All right. So let me get back to this text. This is why it takes us so long. So that was the first verse of chapter seven. So he's staying there because he knows they want to take his life. Verse 2, but when the Jewish feast of tabernacles was near, Jesus' brothers, so here's the brothers on the scene. Remember, he's home. He's in Galilee.

All right. So let me get back to this text. This is why it takes us so long. So that was the first verse of chapter seven. So he's staying there because he knows they want to take his life. Verse 2, but when the Jewish feast of tabernacles was near, Jesus' brothers, so here's the brothers on the scene. Remember, he's home. He's in Galilee.

Said to him, you ought to leave here and go to Judea so that your disciples may see the miracles you do. No one who wants to become a public figure acts in secret. Since you are doing these things, show yourself to the world. For even his own brothers did not believe in him. which was the point we were making before about where they got to, you know, eventually.

Said to him, you ought to leave here and go to Judea so that your disciples may see the miracles you do. No one who wants to become a public figure acts in secret. Since you are doing these things, show yourself to the world. For even his own brothers did not believe in him. which was the point we were making before about where they got to, you know, eventually.

And, you know, they looked at it almost like we, we talked about this before. It was, it was like, it was a, all of a sudden we had a little marketing strategy broke out among the brothers.

And, you know, they looked at it almost like we, we talked about this before. It was, it was like, it was a, all of a sudden we had a little marketing strategy broke out among the brothers.

They're like, well, look, if you, if you want to be a big deal, I mean, I know you got these crowds and you're doing stuff, but if you want to really do it, you got to get out there, you know, you got to press the flesh. You got to get down where the action is in Jerusalem, right?

They're like, well, look, if you, if you want to be a big deal, I mean, I know you got these crowds and you're doing stuff, but if you want to really do it, you got to get out there, you know, you got to press the flesh. You got to get down where the action is in Jerusalem, right?

The Mother's Day is approaching, and Jace, I have to say that when I think about our mom and what a great mom she is, for me, it's even a double blessing because she was 16 years old. and found out she was pregnant with me. And obviously this was unplanned. And she went through what every young girl would go through in this moment. And yet she decided to choose life.

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Or you can visit preborn.com slash unashamed. That's preborn.com slash unashamed. Well, he's basically telling his brothers, you don't have any skin in the game. That's why you can get along. If you're only trying to be popular. I mean, you know, if you're not going to go against anything, then of course it's easy to do. I thought about, Zach, the line people use today.

Or you can visit preborn.com slash unashamed. That's preborn.com slash unashamed. Well, he's basically telling his brothers, you don't have any skin in the game. That's why you can get along. If you're only trying to be popular. I mean, you know, if you're not going to go against anything, then of course it's easy to do. I thought about, Zach, the line people use today.

They call it building their brand, you know. And that's the way we talk about it today. And that's what they're telling him. You know, you got to go build that brand. And he's like, no, you're not understanding exactly why I'm here.

They call it building their brand, you know. And that's the way we talk about it today. And that's what they're telling him. You know, you got to go build that brand. And he's like, no, you're not understanding exactly why I'm here.

I was just going to say from a practical standpoint, you know, we can't really relate to this in our own lives because our parents, you know, found Christ and then at some point, you know, brought us up in him. And so we didn't. So our family were believers together, you know, for most of our lives. Jason and I was a little bit later to the game. But, you know, we don't have this understanding.

I was just going to say from a practical standpoint, you know, we can't really relate to this in our own lives because our parents, you know, found Christ and then at some point, you know, brought us up in him. And so we didn't. So our family were believers together, you know, for most of our lives. Jason and I was a little bit later to the game. But, you know, we don't have this understanding.

What if you're the only one? How many? I mean, I know y'all both have done it. And we've been a part of many people through the years when someone is led to Christ and they're the first one in their family to come to Christ. And they're in a situation where that becomes a negative against them because all of a sudden it's like, well, why are you doing this? Where you're joining some cult?

What if you're the only one? How many? I mean, I know y'all both have done it. And we've been a part of many people through the years when someone is led to Christ and they're the first one in their family to come to Christ. And they're in a situation where that becomes a negative against them because all of a sudden it's like, well, why are you doing this? Where you're joining some cult?

And I remember, I mean, there's undergo terrible persecution. I mean, we've had Larry Bowles on here talking about people coming out of Islam, you know, in his Athens work. And I mean, where it costs you everything, where they... Take all your stuff back home and burn it, you know, in a pile and say you can never come back here.

And I remember, I mean, there's undergo terrible persecution. I mean, we've had Larry Bowles on here talking about people coming out of Islam, you know, in his Athens work. And I mean, where it costs you everything, where they... Take all your stuff back home and burn it, you know, in a pile and say you can never come back here.

So when I read, you know, verses like this, I realize the courage it takes sometimes in your own family to stand and do the right thing because it's the right thing to do. And Jesus shows a great example of this because, I mean, these are the brothers he grew up with.

So when I read, you know, verses like this, I realize the courage it takes sometimes in your own family to stand and do the right thing because it's the right thing to do. And Jesus shows a great example of this because, I mean, these are the brothers he grew up with.

You know, you know, he cared about him, but they didn't even believe he was who he said he was because it's not like he hadn't been talking about it up to now. And so all they're talking about is brand building. And he's like, you guys don't even realize what's going on. Oh, exactly.

You know, you know, he cared about him, but they didn't even believe he was who he said he was because it's not like he hadn't been talking about it up to now. And so all they're talking about is brand building. And he's like, you guys don't even realize what's going on. Oh, exactly.

Here's what you do. It's called the Feast of the Tabernacles. And there are three major feasts. And you see them all throughout the New Testament, too. And, you know, you had obviously the Feast of the Passover, which is the first one, which was kind of this idea of coming out of Egypt. And that's related because we know this happens when Jesus wants to have given his life.

Here's what you do. It's called the Feast of the Tabernacles. And there are three major feasts. And you see them all throughout the New Testament, too. And, you know, you had obviously the Feast of the Passover, which is the first one, which was kind of this idea of coming out of Egypt. And that's related because we know this happens when Jesus wants to have given his life.

in this late springtime right now. We would call it Easter. They would call it the Passover. Then you have this Pentecost, which is 50 days after that, which is just basically saying we're going to bring offerings to God because we've been delivered. That's kind of the concept.

in this late springtime right now. We would call it Easter. They would call it the Passover. Then you have this Pentecost, which is 50 days after that, which is just basically saying we're going to bring offerings to God because we've been delivered. That's kind of the concept.

And then you have this one called the Feast of Tabernacles, which happens at the harvest in the fall, and this is right after the Day of Atonement. So there's three major feasts that all Jewish males had to participate in And that's this third one. And they call it the Feast of Tabernacles or the Feast of... What do they call it?

And then you have this one called the Feast of Tabernacles, which happens at the harvest in the fall, and this is right after the Day of Atonement. So there's three major feasts that all Jewish males had to participate in And that's this third one. And they call it the Feast of Tabernacles or the Feast of... What do they call it?

Booths, yeah, is what they call it today.

Booths, yeah, is what they call it today.

No, I don't. I would guess it's because they made sure they didn't want to miss the seventh day. It was like the 40 minus one. They were supposed to get 40 lashes. I mean, 39 lashes, but they would say 40 minus one because they did want to make sure and get the wrong number. But I'm just guessing. I don't know.

No, I don't. I would guess it's because they made sure they didn't want to miss the seventh day. It was like the 40 minus one. They were supposed to get 40 lashes. I mean, 39 lashes, but they would say 40 minus one because they did want to make sure and get the wrong number. But I'm just guessing. I don't know.

Anyway, so we'll look into that, Jase. This was the setting for which... Let me read.

Anyway, so we'll look into that, Jase. This was the setting for which... Let me read.

All right. So we're out of time, but we did move into chapter seven. I'm excited. So we'll pick this up next time in our discussion on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed Podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.

All right. So we're out of time, but we did move into chapter seven. I'm excited. So we'll pick this up next time in our discussion on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed Podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.

No, I didn't mean that. I just mean men who have way more years behind them than in front of them. The T is okay.

No, I didn't mean that. I just mean men who have way more years behind them than in front of them. The T is okay.

The last year, Jase, I had made a – I came up with my own little marketing strategy to lose 60 pounds by the time I turned 60. Some people we know made some wagers. Bets were made. Money was lost. You understand. You were there.

The last year, Jase, I had made a – I came up with my own little marketing strategy to lose 60 pounds by the time I turned 60. Some people we know made some wagers. Bets were made. Money was lost. You understand. You were there.

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You do. And so I fell short of my goal. But now that I've turned 60, I have found some people that are helping me get to that goal and more. The folks are PhD weight loss. And Dr. Ashley Lucas is the founder. She's a registered dietitian. She has a PhD program. and sports nutrition and chronic disease.

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You know, you just got to stretch.

You know, you just got to stretch.

This is a description of the church. So anyway, now look at verse 11. Of Revelation 21. It shone with the glory of God. Look, its brilliance was like that of a precious jewel. Sound familiar? Isaiah 54. Like a jasper clears crystal, it had a great high wall with 12 gates and 12 angels of the gates. Now, does that sound familiar? How many tribes were there in Israel? Yeah.

This is a description of the church. So anyway, now look at verse 11. Of Revelation 21. It shone with the glory of God. Look, its brilliance was like that of a precious jewel. Sound familiar? Isaiah 54. Like a jasper clears crystal, it had a great high wall with 12 gates and 12 angels of the gates. Now, does that sound familiar? How many tribes were there in Israel? Yeah.

How many disciples did Jesus, I mean, apostles did Jesus pick? Twelve. Twelve seems to be a common theme here. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. Well, that answered that question. That's what we're talking about. All right, so you have all these gates and foundations and the names of the 12 apostles of the Lamb.

How many disciples did Jesus, I mean, apostles did Jesus pick? Twelve. Twelve seems to be a common theme here. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. Well, that answered that question. That's what we're talking about. All right, so you have all these gates and foundations and the names of the 12 apostles of the Lamb.

Okay, verse 15, the angel who talked, he had a measuring rod, so he starts measuring this. I'm going to skip down to verse 18. The wall was made of jasper, the city of pure gold as pure as glass, the foundations of the city, they had walls with every kind of precious stone. Now watch. The first foundation was jasper. The second, sapphire. The third, I can't even pronounce it.

Okay, verse 15, the angel who talked, he had a measuring rod, so he starts measuring this. I'm going to skip down to verse 18. The wall was made of jasper, the city of pure gold as pure as glass, the foundations of the city, they had walls with every kind of precious stone. Now watch. The first foundation was jasper. The second, sapphire. The third, I can't even pronounce it.

What does your version say? Agate. Agate.

What does your version say? Agate. Agate.

Well, agate, which is what the same one in Isaiah. The fourth, emerald. The fifth, what do you have as the fifth? Onyx. Onyx. The sixth, carnelian or sardosis. The seventh, chrysolite. Chrysolite. Yeah, the eighth, beryl. What do you have as the ninth and tenth? Topaz. Yeah, that's what I have. Chrysoprase. Yeah. So you have these ten jewels.

Well, agate, which is what the same one in Isaiah. The fourth, emerald. The fifth, what do you have as the fifth? Onyx. Onyx. The sixth, carnelian or sardosis. The seventh, chrysolite. Chrysolite. Yeah, the eighth, beryl. What do you have as the ninth and tenth? Topaz. Yeah, that's what I have. Chrysoprase. Yeah. So you have these ten jewels.

Now, look, there was two things that happened. One, I disagreed with the guy that this is a picture of heaven. I think it's a picture of the church. And I'm going to prove that even further. And number two, in the NIV that I had, it had number six. It had rubies. Bad translation. It's the only translation that has rubies.

Now, look, there was two things that happened. One, I disagreed with the guy that this is a picture of heaven. I think it's a picture of the church. And I'm going to prove that even further. And number two, in the NIV that I had, it had number six. It had rubies. Bad translation. It's the only translation that has rubies.

But when I looked up the Greek word, it has that sardosis or what was the one y'all had? Onyx. Yeah. Or maybe I think that was the fifth. Yeah. Maybe it was onyx, but whatever. So here's what the scientist says. This is what the six-minute video is about. And he's telling this fellow.

But when I looked up the Greek word, it has that sardosis or what was the one y'all had? Onyx. Yeah. Or maybe I think that was the fifth. Yeah. Maybe it was onyx, but whatever. So here's what the scientist says. This is what the six-minute video is about. And he's telling this fellow.

streamline, like make it pure, what they call pure light. And he went through this whole thing that was totally on my head about the reason we, you know, light reflects in all kinds of different ways. But they figured out just in the last, you know, few years how to concentrate it.

streamline, like make it pure, what they call pure light. And he went through this whole thing that was totally on my head about the reason we, you know, light reflects in all kinds of different ways. But they figured out just in the last, you know, few years how to concentrate it.

And so think the way I understood he had an illustration about wearing sunglasses that were polarized because he called it polarized light. Well, there's, you can... you can get rid of some light through the glasses because you're more focused on one set of light than others, and it actually creates a buffer for the light. So anyway, he went through this whole deal. And so...

And so think the way I understood he had an illustration about wearing sunglasses that were polarized because he called it polarized light. Well, there's, you can... you can get rid of some light through the glasses because you're more focused on one set of light than others, and it actually creates a buffer for the light. So anyway, he went through this whole deal. And so...

What's fascinating about this, the polarized light, and think laser lights. He also used that. You know, like you have a laser going through space or whatever. We figured out this through technology and all that.

What's fascinating about this, the polarized light, and think laser lights. He also used that. You know, like you have a laser going through space or whatever. We figured out this through technology and all that.

So what happened was some of these scientists got together who were believers and actually started putting these different kinds of jewels because what people are fascinated in, which is why I believe the NIV got that one translation wrong, Because sardosis is a lot like a ruby in that it's red, but it's like a ruby is a ruby.

So what happened was some of these scientists got together who were believers and actually started putting these different kinds of jewels because what people are fascinated in, which is why I believe the NIV got that one translation wrong, Because sardosis is a lot like a ruby in that it's red, but it's like a ruby is a ruby.

And so you see why they translated that, because they wanted a better jewel. But what's fascinating is these 10 jewels that are mentioned here are not what we in our society view as the best jewels. I mean, if I said what is the best jewel, what's the first thing you think of? Diamond. A diamond. Well, that's enough.

And so you see why they translated that, because they wanted a better jewel. But what's fascinating is these 10 jewels that are mentioned here are not what we in our society view as the best jewels. I mean, if I said what is the best jewel, what's the first thing you think of? Diamond. A diamond. Well, that's enough.

I don't care. All right. So I had a funny little thing that happened. And speaking of passages in Isaiah that I said I was going to get back to. My son sent me a video and it was like a seven minute video. And he said, what do you think about this? So it was a scientist who was basically breaking down a passage in Revelation 21.

I don't care. All right. So I had a funny little thing that happened. And speaking of passages in Isaiah that I said I was going to get back to. My son sent me a video and it was like a seven minute video. And he said, what do you think about this? So it was a scientist who was basically breaking down a passage in Revelation 21.

Because he said what happened under a microscope when you use pure light and you take these jewels and you refine them down and look at it through a microscope using pure light? What they found was when they did all jewels, a lot of the jewels went gray, white, or black, no colors, when you purified the light. And things like diamonds. It just looks, think coal. It looks like coal.

Because he said what happened under a microscope when you use pure light and you take these jewels and you refine them down and look at it through a microscope using pure light? What they found was when they did all jewels, a lot of the jewels went gray, white, or black, no colors, when you purified the light. And things like diamonds. It just looks, think coal. It looks like coal.

And he's showing you the pictures of this under a microscope using pure light. But did you know that all 10 of these listed here not only do they become brighter, they all look like a rainbow with colors like becoming almost greater than you could ever imagine.

And he's showing you the pictures of this under a microscope using pure light. But did you know that all 10 of these listed here not only do they become brighter, they all look like a rainbow with colors like becoming almost greater than you could ever imagine.

I do remember that, because I just remember thinking, why would these people who were eyewitnesses of Jesus...

I do remember that, because I just remember thinking, why would these people who were eyewitnesses of Jesus...

What the guy's point was is we just discovered that in the last 50 years.

What the guy's point was is we just discovered that in the last 50 years.

You think, well, maybe he just got lucky, you know, which I think he was carried along by the Holy Spirit. But it comes back to what I started to in John 3. When if you're basing it on human eyes, we pick the diamonds, the rubies, the opal. Well, none of these reflect under a microscope with intense light.

You think, well, maybe he just got lucky, you know, which I think he was carried along by the Holy Spirit. But it comes back to what I started to in John 3. When if you're basing it on human eyes, we pick the diamonds, the rubies, the opal. Well, none of these reflect under a microscope with intense light.

Well, think about all the verses that says, you know, God lives in unapproachable light, you know. And think about, too, where Revelation is going when it says, verse 22 says, I did not see a temple in the city because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. Look at the next verse.

Well, think about all the verses that says, you know, God lives in unapproachable light, you know. And think about, too, where Revelation is going when it says, verse 22 says, I did not see a temple in the city because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. Look at the next verse.

The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it for the glory of God gives it light and the Lamb is its lamp. So get the picture of what he's really writing. You take these stones that are precious stones, but they're not the ones that we think are the best.

The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it for the glory of God gives it light and the Lamb is its lamp. So get the picture of what he's really writing. You take these stones that are precious stones, but they're not the ones that we think are the best.

But when you look at them through the eyes of God's light, his illustration as this is the vision of people that are redeemed by God, they're actually way more beautiful and colorful than you could ever imagine.

But when you look at them through the eyes of God's light, his illustration as this is the vision of people that are redeemed by God, they're actually way more beautiful and colorful than you could ever imagine.

Wow.

Wow.

And I was like, but look, the guy missed the whole point because he said, this is the place you're going. So that's why it just went... I was like, no, these are the people.

And I was like, but look, the guy missed the whole point because he said, this is the place you're going. So that's why it just went... I was like, no, these are the people.

This is the people that are described by God being redeemed by the blood of Christ and being transformed into light that becomes even greater than we could ever ask or imagine. And that's the way we're depicted as our eternal dwelling. How did the writer of this revelation have that knowledge?

This is the people that are described by God being redeemed by the blood of Christ and being transformed into light that becomes even greater than we could ever ask or imagine. And that's the way we're depicted as our eternal dwelling. How did the writer of this revelation have that knowledge?

And what's also funny about the conversation before I get into that is, you know, Reed was also asking me like, what to tell his mom about, because we're rebuilding our house, which has been a year since our house got hit by a tornado. And I was like, Reed, isn't she there? And he's like, well, yeah, but I'm asking you because I'm pretty sure she's asleep. It was like in the morning.

And what's also funny about the conversation before I get into that is, you know, Reed was also asking me like, what to tell his mom about, because we're rebuilding our house, which has been a year since our house got hit by a tornado. And I was like, Reed, isn't she there? And he's like, well, yeah, but I'm asking you because I'm pretty sure she's asleep. It was like in the morning.

Yeah, that's what the manifestation word means. I've noticed that before, too. Which, look, I mean, this is so, I mean, to me, it's so exhilarating. I mean, that's why it was so exciting. I mean, that's how the church, to your point, is being described here.

Yeah, that's what the manifestation word means. I've noticed that before, too. Which, look, I mean, this is so, I mean, to me, it's so exhilarating. I mean, that's why it was so exciting. I mean, that's how the church, to your point, is being described here.

Yeah, which was a sign of a promise.

Yeah, which was a sign of a promise.

No, I agree. That's what stood out to me, too, was the fact that we're not diamonds. It's not the ones we would think, because when you think you're something, you think you're a diamond, you don't think you need God. It's like, to me, that was, they didn't talk about all this. I mean, you got to remember, these are kind of boring scientists that stumbled up on something. Yeah.

No, I agree. That's what stood out to me, too, was the fact that we're not diamonds. It's not the ones we would think, because when you think you're something, you think you're a diamond, you don't think you need God. It's like, to me, that was, they didn't talk about all this. I mean, you got to remember, these are kind of boring scientists that stumbled up on something. Yeah.

And they weren't even making the points that I thought they should be making. I was like, one thing is this is us. Are you crazy? And another thing, I wrote down some notes because this was obviously over my head on the light part. So the ones that turn gray, black, or white, like the under this intense light, It's called isotropic.

And they weren't even making the points that I thought they should be making. I was like, one thing is this is us. Are you crazy? And another thing, I wrote down some notes because this was obviously over my head on the light part. So the ones that turn gray, black, or white, like the under this intense light, It's called isotropic.

And just in case you want to research this, the ones that turned into the beautiful rainbows beyond the colors that they even have was called anisotropic. But you know what the process that they called that they didn't even mention to discover this was called? That they call it? It's called cross-polarized light. Because light reflects off so many things. But they call it the cross. You get it?

And just in case you want to research this, the ones that turned into the beautiful rainbows beyond the colors that they even have was called anisotropic. But you know what the process that they called that they didn't even mention to discover this was called? That they call it? It's called cross-polarized light. Because light reflects off so many things. But they call it the cross. You get it?

The cross. I was like, well, you buried the lead there, dude. I mean, stop. Take a time out on what... You know, how we became new creatures.

The cross. I was like, well, you buried the lead there, dude. I mean, stop. Take a time out on what... You know, how we became new creatures.

He was at my house.

He was at my house.

And that begins now.

And that begins now.

Look, it's the same thing about imaging God that we've been discussing. And when God's kingdom is among the earth now, we're members of it. And the quality that you have as being a representative of the kingdom. And now, I mean, just in light of that, just think of that. I mean, you're whatever jewel you want to be in that list through God's light shining on you.

Look, it's the same thing about imaging God that we've been discussing. And when God's kingdom is among the earth now, we're members of it. And the quality that you have as being a representative of the kingdom. And now, I mean, just in light of that, just think of that. I mean, you're whatever jewel you want to be in that list through God's light shining on you.

Oh, you're way more spectacular than any jewel to the eye out there of the earth on the earth.

Oh, you're way more spectacular than any jewel to the eye out there of the earth on the earth.

So I think that provides some tension because you were talking about family. Yeah. Because, you know, you have your son rebuilding your house, which you think, oh, that's great that you have a son that can do that. But it's also tense for him. Because you're rebuilding your parents' house.

So I think that provides some tension because you were talking about family. Yeah. Because, you know, you have your son rebuilding your house, which you think, oh, that's great that you have a son that can do that. But it's also tense for him. Because you're rebuilding your parents' house.

Oh, that's why when I asked y'all, had you ever heard this, I knew you hadn't because people, you know, we've given up the rainbow as people of God because they're like, oh, there's another group of people that they've made that their flagship. Yeah. Oh, no, that was God's flagship. And I just read to you, we need to bring it back.

Oh, that's why when I asked y'all, had you ever heard this, I knew you hadn't because people, you know, we've given up the rainbow as people of God because they're like, oh, there's another group of people that they've made that their flagship. Yeah. Oh, no, that was God's flagship. And I just read to you, we need to bring it back.

You need to wake up tomorrow and say, hey, I'm a sapphire set on fire by the pure light of Jesus shining through me. Step back and allow me to burn in front of you. I mean, that was the idea of this Revelation 21. I mean, it's like you've been set on fire in a good way by the pure light of Jesus.

You need to wake up tomorrow and say, hey, I'm a sapphire set on fire by the pure light of Jesus shining through me. Step back and allow me to burn in front of you. I mean, that was the idea of this Revelation 21. I mean, it's like you've been set on fire in a good way by the pure light of Jesus.

So the standard has gone up because if anything goes wrong, I realized in the moment what he was actually asking. He was like, the pressure here is about more than I can bear.

So the standard has gone up because if anything goes wrong, I realized in the moment what he was actually asking. He was like, the pressure here is about more than I can bear.

Yeah, that's good. You know what's funny about this video? So I said there was three videos that nobody much has watched. Well, at the end of one of them, they had found a sermon from like 30 or 40 years ago, and it was a clip. And think, you know, like a charismatic preacher. I mean, he was preaching this.

Yeah, that's good. You know what's funny about this video? So I said there was three videos that nobody much has watched. Well, at the end of one of them, they had found a sermon from like 30 or 40 years ago, and it was a clip. And think, you know, like a charismatic preacher. I mean, he was preaching this.

without any scientific knowledge, but basically saying there was something he had figured out without the scientific research that I shared with you, that he chose lesser jewels because of this principle of God shining the light, which made you brighter. And he didn't even know the research, which I thought was really cool because I thought that's a spirit-filled preacher thing.

without any scientific knowledge, but basically saying there was something he had figured out without the scientific research that I shared with you, that he chose lesser jewels because of this principle of God shining the light, which made you brighter. And he didn't even know the research, which I thought was really cool because I thought that's a spirit-filled preacher thing.

who had figured it out without any scientific research, which I thought, kudos to that guy, tip of the hat. That's why I asked you, had you ever heard this? Had you ever heard this before? I haven't, no. I have not. Oh, well, good. I made a prediction.

who had figured it out without any scientific research, which I thought, kudos to that guy, tip of the hat. That's why I asked you, had you ever heard this? Had you ever heard this before? I haven't, no. I have not. Oh, well, good. I made a prediction.

Well, here's the problem now, Al, is like, so I, because my wife's out of town, and so I'm doing this, my son, you know, I sent this to him, and I was like, It made me feel so good that my son found this. despite it not having many views and sending and saying, what do you think about this? Because he wasn't like, oh, this is a great, he was just like, what do you think about this?

Well, here's the problem now, Al, is like, so I, because my wife's out of town, and so I'm doing this, my son, you know, I sent this to him, and I was like, It made me feel so good that my son found this. despite it not having many views and sending and saying, what do you think about this? Because he wasn't like, oh, this is a great, he was just like, what do you think about this?

But what hit me was one, I'm really glad my son is sending his dad videos about Bible things saying, what do you think? And number two is it hit me. I thought after I finished all this three hours later, after I went down all these rabbit holes, I thought, how am I going to tell Missy that she needs to throw away this diamond ring that I bought for her?

But what hit me was one, I'm really glad my son is sending his dad videos about Bible things saying, what do you think? And number two is it hit me. I thought after I finished all this three hours later, after I went down all these rabbit holes, I thought, how am I going to tell Missy that she needs to throw away this diamond ring that I bought for her?

Because this is almost a form of, you know, pagan ritualistic worship here.

Because this is almost a form of, you know, pagan ritualistic worship here.

Reservices.

Reservices.

Oh, and I had the same thing with my kids, and we actually converted Missy into that same manner. I mean, she will do anything not to wake anybody up, and you don't wake her up. It's just like... I've explained that to little man because he's like, where's Lulu? He calls her Lulu.

Oh, and I had the same thing with my kids, and we actually converted Missy into that same manner. I mean, she will do anything not to wake anybody up, and you don't wake her up. It's just like... I've explained that to little man because he's like, where's Lulu? He calls her Lulu.

I mean, because I was like, this needs to get out. Of course, look, and I think it goes back to John 6. In that here's Jesus making this illustration. I mean, we went back to Isaiah 54. Now I've already gone back there and picked out another verse and gone to Revelation 21 about this picture of the redeemed, you know, in the afterlife. But.

I mean, because I was like, this needs to get out. Of course, look, and I think it goes back to John 6. In that here's Jesus making this illustration. I mean, we went back to Isaiah 54. Now I've already gone back there and picked out another verse and gone to Revelation 21 about this picture of the redeemed, you know, in the afterlife. But.

Through this, I realized some arguments in that, one, I didn't like how the NIV translated one of them rubies because it made me judge their motives. I thought, oh, because it's more valuable. Because they're looking at it from, in my mind, oh, heaven is expensive. There's streets of gold because that's the same chapter that talks about the streets are paved with gold.

Through this, I realized some arguments in that, one, I didn't like how the NIV translated one of them rubies because it made me judge their motives. I thought, oh, because it's more valuable. Because they're looking at it from, in my mind, oh, heaven is expensive. There's streets of gold because that's the same chapter that talks about the streets are paved with gold.

Well, do you actually think there's going to be gold streets in this country?

Well, do you actually think there's going to be gold streets in this country?

Now, I think it's saying you are streets of gold. It's a depiction of people living, or let me rephrase that. It's God dwelling with streets of gold that he has made that are actually people living. So look, it's fantastic, which makes us go back to John 1. Because look, Al, it kind of changed the way I viewed where we've gone from John 1 up until now.

Now, I think it's saying you are streets of gold. It's a depiction of people living, or let me rephrase that. It's God dwelling with streets of gold that he has made that are actually people living. So look, it's fantastic, which makes us go back to John 1. Because look, Al, it kind of changed the way I viewed where we've gone from John 1 up until now.

Because that's why I said that John 3 popped in my head about everything exposed by the light becomes visible, that it should be visible. resulting in praise to God. But think about John 1 where this started in verse 9 or verse 8. We're talking about John the Baptist's role. And think, look, lesser gem of humanity. Because you look at John, he was out of camel skin and ate bugs.

Because that's why I said that John 3 popped in my head about everything exposed by the light becomes visible, that it should be visible. resulting in praise to God. But think about John 1 where this started in verse 9 or verse 8. We're talking about John the Baptist's role. And think, look, lesser gem of humanity. Because you look at John, he was out of camel skin and ate bugs.

And you're not thinking this is a very powerful person, but God used him and actually called him the greatest human ever born. But he said he himself was not the light. He came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.

And you're not thinking this is a very powerful person, but God used him and actually called him the greatest human ever born. But he said he himself was not the light. He came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.

And I just think it was so fascinating that some bunch of scientists looking at pure, powerful light reflecting in the gem world that is used in Revelation 21 that all of a sudden becomes under a microscope something way more spectacular than was ever known. Of course, they were only concerned with how did that writer know that, but I've given you all these practical examples

And I just think it was so fascinating that some bunch of scientists looking at pure, powerful light reflecting in the gem world that is used in Revelation 21 that all of a sudden becomes under a microscope something way more spectacular than was ever known. Of course, they were only concerned with how did that writer know that, but I've given you all these practical examples

applications that should just fire up followers of Jesus.

applications that should just fire up followers of Jesus.

Yeah, I told my kids. I don't think it's godly. I said, you wake me up. Well, I framed it around when you start providing some of the resources around here. And so we had a rule. I forgot what the exact rule was, but you can only awake me if you're bleeding out of some kind of orifice, have a broken bone. It was something graphic, like you're basically dying.

Yeah, I told my kids. I don't think it's godly. I said, you wake me up. Well, I framed it around when you start providing some of the resources around here. And so we had a rule. I forgot what the exact rule was, but you can only awake me if you're bleeding out of some kind of orifice, have a broken bone. It was something graphic, like you're basically dying.

Yeah, I actually, at nine years old, bought shrinking dust for humans.

Yeah, I actually, at nine years old, bought shrinking dust for humans.

Exactly. That's why I'm making the point. I realize that, Al, in this process, that I've delayed the finishing of John 6 once again, but I didn't know y'all were going to be this enamored with this. I'm pleasantly surprised. But I was excited about it. But I just want to say that's why we keep harping on you must read the Bible, filtering everything through Jesus. He is the light of the world.

Exactly. That's why I'm making the point. I realize that, Al, in this process, that I've delayed the finishing of John 6 once again, but I didn't know y'all were going to be this enamored with this. I'm pleasantly surprised. But I was excited about it. But I just want to say that's why we keep harping on you must read the Bible, filtering everything through Jesus. He is the light of the world.

He does illuminate us. And I'll give you an example of that. When I referenced that 1 Timothy 6 passage, I mean, this thing really came to life after what all we've just talked about, Revelation 21. When 612 of 1 Timothy 6, it says, fight the good fight of the faith.

He does illuminate us. And I'll give you an example of that. When I referenced that 1 Timothy 6 passage, I mean, this thing really came to life after what all we've just talked about, Revelation 21. When 612 of 1 Timothy 6, it says, fight the good fight of the faith.

Take hold to the eternal life to which you were called, which is really what Revelation 21 is describing, eternity itself with God, you know, in the dwelling with God as people. But here, you know, we fight the good fight. And this encourages us to do that, these facts that we've just talked about.

Take hold to the eternal life to which you were called, which is really what Revelation 21 is describing, eternity itself with God, you know, in the dwelling with God as people. But here, you know, we fight the good fight. And this encourages us to do that, these facts that we've just talked about.

But then it goes on to say, when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses, in the sight of God, which is really what that whole experiment by the scientists, they were taking this incredible force of light that would burn a hole right there. You're looking at a gemstone.

But then it goes on to say, when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses, in the sight of God, which is really what that whole experiment by the scientists, they were taking this incredible force of light that would burn a hole right there. You're looking at a gemstone.

in the sight of God who gives life to everything and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pilate made the good confession, I charge you to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which God will bring about in his own time, which he's eternal. So that's kind of a hot thing to say.

in the sight of God who gives life to everything and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pilate made the good confession, I charge you to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which God will bring about in his own time, which he's eternal. So that's kind of a hot thing to say.

God, the blessed and only ruler, the King of kings and the Lord of lords. Well, we know who that's talking about, Jesus, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. And that's why it makes sense on these passages that John said, God, the one and only Son, is at the right hand of God, has made him known.

God, the blessed and only ruler, the King of kings and the Lord of lords. Well, we know who that's talking about, Jesus, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. And that's why it makes sense on these passages that John said, God, the one and only Son, is at the right hand of God, has made him known.

He's made him available. So when you try to read the Bible, like all the people grumbling and arguing with Jesus in John 6, that's what he was trying to connect. This is about me. I want to illuminate you and let you see this.

He's made him available. So when you try to read the Bible, like all the people grumbling and arguing with Jesus in John 6, that's what he was trying to connect. This is about me. I want to illuminate you and let you see this.

You're Israel's teacher. I think we should give an assignment for the next podcast for our faithful listeners to read Deuteronomy 7. and then chapter 30, and then chapter 32, and then just Google a Deuteronomy overview because that's basically what we're going to do. And I think by doing that, we're going to address some of these arguments.

You're Israel's teacher. I think we should give an assignment for the next podcast for our faithful listeners to read Deuteronomy 7. and then chapter 30, and then chapter 32, and then just Google a Deuteronomy overview because that's basically what we're going to do. And I think by doing that, we're going to address some of these arguments.

You remember a few podcasts ago where we said the modern religious world, they go to John 6 and they have all these arguments that have come out of John chapter 6. And I think we're going to solve a lot of these by reading Deuteronomy The Deuteronomy chapters that we just referenced, and I think a light bulb will come on.

You remember a few podcasts ago where we said the modern religious world, they go to John 6 and they have all these arguments that have come out of John chapter 6. And I think we're going to solve a lot of these by reading Deuteronomy The Deuteronomy chapters that we just referenced, and I think a light bulb will come on.

Okay, so let me talk about this video. Send me the video. I'm not going to send it to you yet because you're going to be – you'll watch it while – While you're explaining it. Zach, I appreciate your transparency, and you're basically owning your vulnerabilities to the world. That's it. But I hate to tell you this. You have ADD before that was a thing.

Okay, so let me talk about this video. Send me the video. I'm not going to send it to you yet because you're going to be – you'll watch it while – While you're explaining it. Zach, I appreciate your transparency, and you're basically owning your vulnerabilities to the world. That's it. But I hate to tell you this. You have ADD before that was a thing.

I do think from a personal standpoint, too, you know, it's okay to go outside your little camp, which I try not to have a camp outside of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. But it shows you that even though I disagreed with some of their theology, you know, they revealed something that I thought, oh. So I thought, you know, I'm going to make this video go viral, but it'd be better to make our –

I do think from a personal standpoint, too, you know, it's okay to go outside your little camp, which I try not to have a camp outside of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. But it shows you that even though I disagreed with some of their theology, you know, they revealed something that I thought, oh. So I thought, you know, I'm going to make this video go viral, but it'd be better to make our –

application of being in Jesus go viral because I think that was what was lacking to this discovery. It wasn't applied to a place. It was applied to human beings on the planet, which you are one.

application of being in Jesus go viral because I think that was what was lacking to this discovery. It wasn't applied to a place. It was applied to human beings on the planet, which you are one.

So you can't say you're not transparent. And look, I think in light of John 3, at the end where it says we bring out our... our failures into the light. Because on the other side of darkness, oh, actually, this is going to go perfect. I didn't do this on purpose with what I'm fixing to talk about. Look, I'm pretty sure.

So you can't say you're not transparent. And look, I think in light of John 3, at the end where it says we bring out our... our failures into the light. Because on the other side of darkness, oh, actually, this is going to go perfect. I didn't do this on purpose with what I'm fixing to talk about. Look, I'm pretty sure.

Look, I'm pretty sure. Well, now I'm going to read this because it's like ding, ding, ding, ding. The spirit has moved and given me a thought. It's really good. But I want to say something, Zach, because you're one of the smartest people I know. I mean, I don't rank the smart people I know. And I only have a few people. that I hang around with that are really smart.

Look, I'm pretty sure. Well, now I'm going to read this because it's like ding, ding, ding, ding. The spirit has moved and given me a thought. It's really good. But I want to say something, Zach, because you're one of the smartest people I know. I mean, I don't rank the smart people I know. And I only have a few people. that I hang around with that are really smart.

And part of my inner circle, which Zach is in that inner circle, because I'm just not real bright. Irony of this word. I'm fixing to talk about light.

And part of my inner circle, which Zach is in that inner circle, because I'm just not real bright. Irony of this word. I'm fixing to talk about light.

No, that's not true. Well, God has turned the light switch on, but if I can do this, anybody can do it. So what I'm going to try to do here, because I'm pretty sure, even though you're one of the smartest people I know, that you've never heard what I'm fixed to talk about. I've never heard it. You've never heard this. And Al, I don't think you've ever heard this.

No, that's not true. Well, God has turned the light switch on, but if I can do this, anybody can do it. So what I'm going to try to do here, because I'm pretty sure, even though you're one of the smartest people I know, that you've never heard what I'm fixed to talk about. I've never heard it. You've never heard this. And Al, I don't think you've ever heard this.

I had never heard this when I watched the video. Now, Zach, he doesn't claim to know all, but he claims to know most. So that's a big thing. I do not. I do not. Well, I'm on a roll today. I hope you're recording all this. That's not true. That's not true. So I want to read this John 3 because this was not part of what I was going to talk about, but the Holy Spirit spoke.

I had never heard this when I watched the video. Now, Zach, he doesn't claim to know all, but he claims to know most. So that's a big thing. I do not. I do not. Well, I'm on a roll today. I hope you're recording all this. That's not true. That's not true. So I want to read this John 3 because this was not part of what I was going to talk about, but the Holy Spirit spoke.

So in verse 19 where he says, This is the verdict. Light has come into the world, but men love darkness.

So in verse 19 where he says, This is the verdict. Light has come into the world, but men love darkness.

instead of light because their deeds were evil and everyone who does evil hates the light and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed oh this goes perfect with what i'm fixed to share but whoever lives by the truth comes into the light yeah all right this is gonna be awesome we're probably gonna go viral with what i'm fixed to say

instead of light because their deeds were evil and everyone who does evil hates the light and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed oh this goes perfect with what i'm fixed to share but whoever lives by the truth comes into the light yeah all right this is gonna be awesome we're probably gonna go viral with what i'm fixed to say

Because look, the video I watch, as spectacular as it was, it hasn't gone viral. There was just a few people that have seen it. I mean, I don't know the number. I could look it up real quick, but it's not that many. And the earliest, and there was three videos, and two of them was by the same guy. Then there was a European guy who, theologically, he didn't get into theology much.

Because look, the video I watch, as spectacular as it was, it hasn't gone viral. There was just a few people that have seen it. I mean, I don't know the number. I could look it up real quick, but it's not that many. And the earliest, and there was three videos, and two of them was by the same guy. Then there was a European guy who, theologically, he didn't get into theology much.

He did quote a few verses, but... But he wasn't a dynamic speaker. So the one I listened to had the dynamic speech. The problem was his theology, when he got to the end, I did not agree with. I'm just going ahead and saying it because I'm sure some of you are going to look this video up after I'm finished. And so I think he missed the most important thing.

He did quote a few verses, but... But he wasn't a dynamic speaker. So the one I listened to had the dynamic speech. The problem was his theology, when he got to the end, I did not agree with. I'm just going ahead and saying it because I'm sure some of you are going to look this video up after I'm finished. And so I think he missed the most important thing.

So I never would recommend the video because I'm like, well, this guy had a wondrous, this science guy had a wondrous discovery that no one seems to know about.

So I never would recommend the video because I'm like, well, this guy had a wondrous, this science guy had a wondrous discovery that no one seems to know about.

So that's my lead up to this. And I want to read the Isaiah 54 because I promised on the last podcast I'd do that. And I do want to say that... My son sent this to me, so when I responded to his text, I said, this is awesome. I think I put, I love this in all caps. I said, however, he did miss one vital point about Revelation 21. Okay, so if you read the Isaiah 54 that I purposely skipped over.

So that's my lead up to this. And I want to read the Isaiah 54 because I promised on the last podcast I'd do that. And I do want to say that... My son sent this to me, so when I responded to his text, I said, this is awesome. I think I put, I love this in all caps. I said, however, he did miss one vital point about Revelation 21. Okay, so if you read the Isaiah 54 that I purposely skipped over.

It was verse 12. Yeah. Remember when we read this about... This idea of Israel being God's wife. And look, I want to say something, too, about created in the image of God before the beginning of time. You know, this was God's plan to bring Jesus for those from all nations to be gathered under one head. That is Christ. Think Ephesians 1 or Colossians, you know, says that.

It was verse 12. Yeah. Remember when we read this about... This idea of Israel being God's wife. And look, I want to say something, too, about created in the image of God before the beginning of time. You know, this was God's plan to bring Jesus for those from all nations to be gathered under one head. That is Christ. Think Ephesians 1 or Colossians, you know, says that.

And so in that light, he's talking about, he's predicting salvation, among other things, reconciliation, everlasting love. We read the verse in John 6 about your children, you'll teach your children, you'll pass this on to your children. I mean, there's hope coming. Well, right in the middle of this in Isaiah 54,

And so in that light, he's talking about, he's predicting salvation, among other things, reconciliation, everlasting love. We read the verse in John 6 about your children, you'll teach your children, you'll pass this on to your children. I mean, there's hope coming. Well, right in the middle of this in Isaiah 54,

You know what's hit me, Zach? I finally realized what was the smoking gun to you coming to Jesus. What was that? Isaiah 55, 1. Come. Come all. Come, everyone who thirsts. Come to the waters. Wait for it, Zach. And he who has no money, come buy and eat. Come buy wine and milk without money. Your cheapskate type tendencies actually led you to Jesus because he said, I have bread that costs no money.

You know what's hit me, Zach? I finally realized what was the smoking gun to you coming to Jesus. What was that? Isaiah 55, 1. Come. Come all. Come, everyone who thirsts. Come to the waters. Wait for it, Zach. And he who has no money, come buy and eat. Come buy wine and milk without money. Your cheapskate type tendencies actually led you to Jesus because he said, I have bread that costs no money.

He says in verse 11, O afflicted one, storm-tossed and not comforted, behold, I will set your stones in... This says antimony. I don't even know what that means.

He says in verse 11, O afflicted one, storm-tossed and not comforted, behold, I will set your stones in... This says antimony. I don't even know what that means.

Turquoise? Okay. And lay your foundation with sapphires... I will make your tentacles of a gate. Well, these are all precious stones. All right? All of your wall of precious stones. Oh, that's what verse 12 says. And then verse 13 says what John...

Turquoise? Okay. And lay your foundation with sapphires... I will make your tentacles of a gate. Well, these are all precious stones. All right? All of your wall of precious stones. Oh, that's what verse 12 says. And then verse 13 says what John...

quotes jesus as saying from here in isaiah so one of the odds i'm studying this my son sends me this video so here's what the video is about this science guy says he he refers to revelation 21 and i want to read it all right this is this is gonna this is gonna blow your mind

quotes jesus as saying from here in isaiah so one of the odds i'm studying this my son sends me this video so here's what the video is about this science guy says he he refers to revelation 21 and i want to read it all right this is this is gonna this is gonna blow your mind

And I want to just say this right now for you who are just catching up. That Isaiah 54, when he's describing the jewels, he's describing the people of Israel being redeemed in Jesus. Would you all agree?

And I want to just say this right now for you who are just catching up. That Isaiah 54, when he's describing the jewels, he's describing the people of Israel being redeemed in Jesus. Would you all agree?

The jewels... are representative of the people. So keep that in mind, because when you get to Revelation 21, people who read this lose their mind. And this scientist was saying, look, he said, you know what heaven, here's how he framed it. He said, you know what heaven's going to be like? It's going to be filled with these gemstones, these 12 of them.

The jewels... are representative of the people. So keep that in mind, because when you get to Revelation 21, people who read this lose their mind. And this scientist was saying, look, he said, you know what heaven, here's how he framed it. He said, you know what heaven's going to be like? It's going to be filled with these gemstones, these 12 of them.

And he read, now I disagreed with that statement, by the way. But, and the reason, well, before I give the reason, I'll go ahead and read the verse. So in verse nine, one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the lamb. Well, does that sound familiar? Does that sound familiar?

And he read, now I disagreed with that statement, by the way. But, and the reason, well, before I give the reason, I'll go ahead and read the verse. So in verse nine, one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the lamb. Well, does that sound familiar? Does that sound familiar?

Look, that goes, first we go back to Isaiah. saying that Israel would again be God's bride, but then it also goes to Ephesians 5. We're the bride of Christ because through Jesus dying, being buried and raised, the Spirit being poured out, people responding to Jesus, nations from all under heaven become the bride of Christ. Thank Matthew 28, the Great Commission. All right, we got all that?

Look, that goes, first we go back to Isaiah. saying that Israel would again be God's bride, but then it also goes to Ephesians 5. We're the bride of Christ because through Jesus dying, being buried and raised, the Spirit being poured out, people responding to Jesus, nations from all under heaven become the bride of Christ. Thank Matthew 28, the Great Commission. All right, we got all that?

So then let me keep reading. And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain... Great and high and show me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven. Now this scientist, bless his heart, he's fixing to reveal something that is absolutely stunning. However, he has this being depicted as heaven, and I just read that this came out of heaven. And if you go back to the first verse of this,

So then let me keep reading. And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain... Great and high and show me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven. Now this scientist, bless his heart, he's fixing to reveal something that is absolutely stunning. However, he has this being depicted as heaven, and I just read that this came out of heaven. And if you go back to the first verse of this,

In Revelation 21, 1, he saw a new heaven, a new earth, the first earth that passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride, beautifully dressed for her husband. So I'm just asking you, who do you think is talking about? What is this city? It's got to be people. It's got to be people.

In Revelation 21, 1, he saw a new heaven, a new earth, the first earth that passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride, beautifully dressed for her husband. So I'm just asking you, who do you think is talking about? What is this city? It's got to be people. It's got to be people.

And wrote several books about it. So I'd have to agree with you on that, Jason.

And wrote several books about it. So I'd have to agree with you on that, Jason.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did y'all see any groups of drones come in?

Did y'all see any groups of drones come in?

So you never did the, here's the church, here's the steeple.

So you never did the, here's the church, here's the steeple.

You know, I've heard a couple people say that. The first person that I heard ever say that was a man by the name of Stephen. Thank you. He got killed for it. But the man who gave the approval to kill him for saying that ended up saying the same exact thing.

You know, I've heard a couple people say that. The first person that I heard ever say that was a man by the name of Stephen. Thank you. He got killed for it. But the man who gave the approval to kill him for saying that ended up saying the same exact thing.

Oh, that's interesting.

Oh, that's interesting.

I mean, think about that. But if you walk in any depth of water in those shoes, they're going to tip your, like you tip your waders, they'll tip the shoes.

I mean, think about that. But if you walk in any depth of water in those shoes, they're going to tip your, like you tip your waders, they'll tip the shoes.

So I'm feeding the ducks every day. The duck commander gave you the job to be the duck keeper. Wow. There's so much irony in that, right? Yeah, exactly. Can't kill them. Don't kill them. Take care of them.

So I'm feeding the ducks every day. The duck commander gave you the job to be the duck keeper. Wow. There's so much irony in that, right? Yeah, exactly. Can't kill them. Don't kill them. Take care of them.

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Yeah, you want to go change the world, but hey, why don't you start with me?

Yeah, you want to go change the world, but hey, why don't you start with me?

It reminds me of, it's actually a quote from Friedrich Nietzsche, who I don't agree with his philosophy, but this is a really brilliant quote. that Eugene Peterson later picked up and wrote a book titled this, Long Obedience in the Same Direction. I think I got that right.

It reminds me of, it's actually a quote from Friedrich Nietzsche, who I don't agree with his philosophy, but this is a really brilliant quote. that Eugene Peterson later picked up and wrote a book titled this, Long Obedience in the Same Direction. I think I got that right.

Long Obedience in the Same Direction, which I think when you think about worship or transformation of the heart, I mean, it's a lifetime. But I love the last night you guys sang a song, which hasn't been released yet, so I guess we can talk about it, but I don't really hear it yet. When does this album come out? Probably close to conference, which is in September.

Long Obedience in the Same Direction, which I think when you think about worship or transformation of the heart, I mean, it's a lifetime. But I love the last night you guys sang a song, which hasn't been released yet, so I guess we can talk about it, but I don't really hear it yet. When does this album come out? Probably close to conference, which is in September.

But last night, it was the first time that you guys have recorded a live out. So it was like a big production. I don't know how many people fit at the Hub, but it was packed.

But last night, it was the first time that you guys have recorded a live out. So it was like a big production. I don't know how many people fit at the Hub, but it was packed.

It was packed.

It was packed.

Yeah, you had all the cameras and everything. So it'll be out on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, anywhere. You guys do have music out, which you got a lot of great songs. Let me say this too. When Reeve said that we spoke in, I did not speak into you about music. I had no clue when I was your college pastor that you had this gifting.

Yeah, you had all the cameras and everything. So it'll be out on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, anywhere. You guys do have music out, which you got a lot of great songs. Let me say this too. When Reeve said that we spoke in, I did not speak into you about music. I had no clue when I was your college pastor that you had this gifting.

I was shocked, too, because when I heard you were doing it... And you were great. I mean, God was... Well, I thought, let's see what he'd do. I mean, if you're going to do it, do it right. Don't get some local guy to do it.

I was shocked, too, because when I heard you were doing it... And you were great. I mean, God was... Well, I thought, let's see what he'd do. I mean, if you're going to do it, do it right. Don't get some local guy to do it.

That's going to be something in the future. I planted a seed today. Are you on social media, by the way? Do you not do it?

That's going to be something in the future. I planted a seed today. Are you on social media, by the way? Do you not do it?

So he has no social media. He's against the grain. Which is hilarious to me because he's like a young guy. He's anti-social media. But if you do get on Instagram, that's your handle, TheDuckShepherd. That'll be your handle. Born right here on the Unashamed podcast. Someone's going to grab that.

So he has no social media. He's against the grain. Which is hilarious to me because he's like a young guy. He's anti-social media. But if you do get on Instagram, that's your handle, TheDuckShepherd. That'll be your handle. Born right here on the Unashamed podcast. Someone's going to grab that.

Yeah. Well, I wanted to say last night, though, the songs were a whole lot about like the first. I love the flow of the evening because it was a lot of songs about our relationship to Christ, meaning how he loves us, which is part of the story, right? I mean, I know a lot of times we get like worship leaders get flack for singing songs that aren't all exhausting.

Yeah. Well, I wanted to say last night, though, the songs were a whole lot about like the first. I love the flow of the evening because it was a lot of songs about our relationship to Christ, meaning how he loves us, which is part of the story, right? I mean, I know a lot of times we get like worship leaders get flack for singing songs that aren't all exhausting.

But there are a lot of psalms that are about how God responds to us. But I love how you ended it. Because you ended it with a response back to God. I'd love to hear kind of what y'all are thinking. Did y'all intentionally put the evening together in that capacity?

But there are a lot of psalms that are about how God responds to us. But I love how you ended it. Because you ended it with a response back to God. I'd love to hear kind of what y'all are thinking. Did y'all intentionally put the evening together in that capacity?

One author said it best. He said to be disruptive is actually to be quiet, to be a non-anxious presence. And I think that's like so true for our time that, People do get exhausted. You get exhausted with, you know, I think that's a generation, too, coming out of social media. Like you're looking and everything is big, big, big, big, big, big.

One author said it best. He said to be disruptive is actually to be quiet, to be a non-anxious presence. And I think that's like so true for our time that, People do get exhausted. You get exhausted with, you know, I think that's a generation, too, coming out of social media. Like you're looking and everything is big, big, big, big, big, big.

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It's defined. I love how Paul defines worship. He broadens the definition. Off of your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God. This is your spiritual act of worship. It's not limited to the Sunday morning song. I think that's what's cool too. The songs don't have to fit into a box.

It's defined. I love how Paul defines worship. He broadens the definition. Off of your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God. This is your spiritual act of worship. It's not limited to the Sunday morning song. I think that's what's cool too. The songs don't have to fit into a box.

I think that's one of the, we talk about this a lot, the secular-sacred divide, that we're going to put it into this one category. These are the only songs you sing for the kingdom. or for Christ. But man, there are a lot of different ways to express through your art, you know, the beauty of Christ.

I think that's one of the, we talk about this a lot, the secular-sacred divide, that we're going to put it into this one category. These are the only songs you sing for the kingdom. or for Christ. But man, there are a lot of different ways to express through your art, you know, the beauty of Christ.

You put it up there in the top. Contributed to the what?

You put it up there in the top. Contributed to the what?

Top of the rodent category.

Top of the rodent category.

With our friends, Shane and Shane at the Worship Initiative.

With our friends, Shane and Shane at the Worship Initiative.

Shane's blog. Yeah. Shane squared. Shane-less. A Shane-less blog. That's it.

Shane's blog. Yeah. Shane squared. Shane-less. A Shane-less blog. That's it.

Don't eat bear either. Bear's not good.

Don't eat bear either. Bear's not good.

I went to a wild game feast one night, and they were serving black bear, and I was like, I know what they eat.

I went to a wild game feast one night, and they were serving black bear, and I was like, I know what they eat.

You go into a situation. I told the kids when you go into that situation, and I try to live my life this way, not that I do it perfect, but I do try to live my life with something called the Ignatius indifference. And what Ignatius would say is you kind of hold these two options in your hand. And one option is saying, if this works, it's going to blow up and be huge.

You go into a situation. I told the kids when you go into that situation, and I try to live my life this way, not that I do it perfect, but I do try to live my life with something called the Ignatius indifference. And what Ignatius would say is you kind of hold these two options in your hand. And one option is saying, if this works, it's going to blow up and be huge.

It's going to be awesome to have that platform. What did you give me there? Crickets. Crickets. Just because you're Ignatius.

It's going to be awesome to have that platform. What did you give me there? Crickets. Crickets. Just because you're Ignatius.

Yes.

Yes.

But what the indifference is, is that if this works, whatever you're doing, and it blows up and the thing, your dream blows up into this big, awesome experience. Great. That's awesome. What a platform that you're going to be able to have. If it doesn't work and you stay small and local or whatever that is, man, thank God I don't have to go do all of that. That's going to require a ton of work.

But what the indifference is, is that if this works, whatever you're doing, and it blows up and the thing, your dream blows up into this big, awesome experience. Great. That's awesome. What a platform that you're going to be able to have. If it doesn't work and you stay small and local or whatever that is, man, thank God I don't have to go do all of that. That's going to require a ton of work.

And so either way, God has people where – in God's kingdom, Francis Schaeffer wrote a book called this, there are no little people. That's right. So whether you're the next Johnny Cash or you're just some guy playing down at the – general store and ministering to people that, I mean, there's no like little people in his kingdom. There really isn't.

And so either way, God has people where – in God's kingdom, Francis Schaeffer wrote a book called this, there are no little people. That's right. So whether you're the next Johnny Cash or you're just some guy playing down at the – general store and ministering to people that, I mean, there's no like little people in his kingdom. There really isn't.

And that was something I had to come to grips with too because I thought if I'm not doing the big thing, then I'm not doing the thing that God wants me to do. The problem is that whatever position you're in, in terms of whatever success looks like, whatever influence you think that you should have or would have that would make you feel fulfilled, if you had that amount of influence, guess what?

And that was something I had to come to grips with too because I thought if I'm not doing the big thing, then I'm not doing the thing that God wants me to do. The problem is that whatever position you're in, in terms of whatever success looks like, whatever influence you think that you should have or would have that would make you feel fulfilled, if you had that amount of influence, guess what?

All that happens is your comparison level goes up. There's always going to be a bigger dog There's always going to be a bigger ministry. There's always going to be a more successful guy. There's always going to be someone who's richer, you know, and even if you're the richest guy in the world, like Elon Musk, all it takes is one, you know, one drop of your, of your, of your company stock.

All that happens is your comparison level goes up. There's always going to be a bigger dog There's always going to be a bigger ministry. There's always going to be a more successful guy. There's always going to be someone who's richer, you know, and even if you're the richest guy in the world, like Elon Musk, all it takes is one, you know, one drop of your, of your, of your company stock.

And now you're not that guy anymore. So you're trying to hold onto it. It's just not, you can't put your hope in those things and like living in that piece, I think is.

And now you're not that guy anymore. So you're trying to hold onto it. It's just not, you can't put your hope in those things and like living in that piece, I think is.

It's the Bible. We never run out of content.

It's the Bible. We never run out of content.

They're both married to separate people. I want folks to be able to hear, because y'all have done a lot of music already, so this isn't like, I mean, although I said, I kind of made it sound like this is a new thing y'all are doing, but y'all have a Spotify, Apple.

They're both married to separate people. I want folks to be able to hear, because y'all have done a lot of music already, so this isn't like, I mean, although I said, I kind of made it sound like this is a new thing y'all are doing, but y'all have a Spotify, Apple.

It's LO Worship. Yeah. And then YouTube. Do you have a YouTube channel?

It's LO Worship. Yeah. And then YouTube. Do you have a YouTube channel?

LO Worship.

LO Worship.

So we'll put links in the show notes, and then when you guys do the actual launch, we'll have you back on, because I really think our family, the Unashamed family, will love your ministry, probably a lot of people already know about what you guys are doing or listening to your, to what you guys are putting out. But, um, I'm proud of both of you.

So we'll put links in the show notes, and then when you guys do the actual launch, we'll have you back on, because I really think our family, the Unashamed family, will love your ministry, probably a lot of people already know about what you guys are doing or listening to your, to what you guys are putting out. But, um, I'm proud of both of you.

Honestly, it's like for me last night, I was like tearing up looking at my daughter up there singing so beautifully. And then you thinking about that, I felt a little guilty that I didn't have the pastoral oversight to see your gifting. So I repent, Reeves, but you know I love you. You are one of my favorite people in the world. I love your entire family. And I am super proud of both of you guys.

Honestly, it's like for me last night, I was like tearing up looking at my daughter up there singing so beautifully. And then you thinking about that, I felt a little guilty that I didn't have the pastoral oversight to see your gifting. So I repent, Reeves, but you know I love you. You are one of my favorite people in the world. I love your entire family. And I am super proud of both of you guys.

And you are doing what God's called you to. So praise him.

And you are doing what God's called you to. So praise him.

I should ask you, how do you prepare your squirrel?

I should ask you, how do you prepare your squirrel?

Yeah. I think that's so good. And I, um, when you said everything you guys were talking about, you know, the song that popped in my head was the Matt Redman song. I'm coming back to the heart of worship where it's all about you. When the music fades and all is stripped away and I simply come. And I love that story about that song. You guys, we all know Matt. He's one of the great guys. He is.

Yeah. I think that's so good. And I, um, when you said everything you guys were talking about, you know, the song that popped in my head was the Matt Redman song. I'm coming back to the heart of worship where it's all about you. When the music fades and all is stripped away and I simply come. And I love that story about that song. You guys, we all know Matt. He's one of the great guys. He is.

And that song was written out of an overproduction in the church, in their church. And their pastor was like, Done. We're not doing that for a while. And the first song, they stripped everything down. And the first song they came back out with, they had sat in a season. I don't know the full, like I'm probably getting the details all wrong here, but the gist is right.

And that song was written out of an overproduction in the church, in their church. And their pastor was like, Done. We're not doing that for a while. And the first song, they stripped everything down. And the first song they came back out with, they had sat in a season. I don't know the full, like I'm probably getting the details all wrong here, but the gist is right.

They sat in a season of an aposture of who is God. who is this king of glory that we serve? And we're coming, let's go back to the heart of what worship is, that offer your bodies as living sacrifice. And the first song that came out of that was when the music fades and all is stripped away. Yeah, I think they quit doing worship for a while too.

They sat in a season of an aposture of who is God. who is this king of glory that we serve? And we're coming, let's go back to the heart of what worship is, that offer your bodies as living sacrifice. And the first song that came out of that was when the music fades and all is stripped away. Yeah, I think they quit doing worship for a while too.

Like a dark meat, kind of like a dark meat.

Like a dark meat, kind of like a dark meat.

So the unashamed audience is getting early. Early bird special to come to. Well, I'm just saying.

So the unashamed audience is getting early. Early bird special to come to. Well, I'm just saying.

We can't guarantee it's early bird. I don't know what you're going to say.

We can't guarantee it's early bird. I don't know what you're going to say.

Willie and Corey met there.

Willie and Corey met there.

They're like the blow-up things.

They're like the blow-up things.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Barbecue some squirrels and figure it out. I might show up and do my burgers. I'll do barbecue burgers with imitation cheese and we can just see what happens. You may win. We'll see what happens.

Barbecue some squirrels and figure it out. I might show up and do my burgers. I'll do barbecue burgers with imitation cheese and we can just see what happens. You may win. We'll see what happens.

Chiyoka.

Chiyoka.

My daughter, Layla, is here in the house.

My daughter, Layla, is here in the house.

Yeah, forget the one name. You're going with four. And then we got my... I say you're like a son to me. I'm like... Was it be a protege? So this guy was in the college ministry. He was part of our college ministry, obviously friend of the family. And now these two together are part of... Hello Worship, which is why we're in town, by the way. Yeah.

Yeah, forget the one name. You're going with four. And then we got my... I say you're like a son to me. I'm like... Was it be a protege? So this guy was in the college ministry. He was part of our college ministry, obviously friend of the family. And now these two together are part of... Hello Worship, which is why we're in town, by the way. Yeah.

We're in town because y'all did your first live album with Sadie last night. Yeah. Which is awesome, by the way.

We're in town because y'all did your first live album with Sadie last night. Yeah. Which is awesome, by the way.

Well, you got camo shoes, like slippers.

Well, you got camo shoes, like slippers.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, he kicked his foot up.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, he kicked his foot up.

Well, welcome.

Well, welcome.

So I know about LO Worship because obviously you guys are in it. We've been watching from the beginning. But tell the audience who may not know what you guys are doing with Sadie. I think it's pretty amazing.

So I know about LO Worship because obviously you guys are in it. We've been watching from the beginning. But tell the audience who may not know what you guys are doing with Sadie. I think it's pretty amazing.

They say George on the bottom, so whatever.

They say George on the bottom, so whatever.

leading worship there and like taking care of the grounds and you kind of oversaw the whole you lived out there you were like willie was willie yeah you were you were willie 2.0 yeah you were the maintenance guy that that took the way willie never he never did the job right and then they brought in this guy to turn it all around yeah you did a great job not quite yeah um yeah it's uh

leading worship there and like taking care of the grounds and you kind of oversaw the whole you lived out there you were like willie was willie yeah you were you were willie 2.0 yeah you were the maintenance guy that that took the way willie never he never did the job right and then they brought in this guy to turn it all around yeah you did a great job not quite yeah um yeah it's uh

You and Jimmy got a future.

You and Jimmy got a future.

I said, no, that created a vomit from the Lord God. For whatever reason, I do hear a lot. They say, you need to tell Jace to lighten up on you.

I said, no, that created a vomit from the Lord God. For whatever reason, I do hear a lot. They say, you need to tell Jace to lighten up on you.

I have tapped into the victim of the whole thing. You're the pity part of the party.

I have tapped into the victim of the whole thing. You're the pity part of the party.

I am unashamed. What about you?

I am unashamed. What about you?

Don't you find that weird?

Don't you find that weird?

I didn't realize that until I was going home. I was like, well, you know, I didn't win much. Then I thought, well, wait a minute. We did two good deeds. And you got your deeds covered. And I actually got, you know, a bunch of heathens to pay for it. I mean, this is just.

I didn't realize that until I was going home. I was like, well, you know, I didn't win much. Then I thought, well, wait a minute. We did two good deeds. And you got your deeds covered. And I actually got, you know, a bunch of heathens to pay for it. I mean, this is just.

James 4, you know, don't say tomorrow we'll go down there and build a town.

James 4, you know, don't say tomorrow we'll go down there and build a town.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I'll say they're known for their cheese.

No, I'll say they're known for their cheese.

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Yeah. It reminds me of a, that reminds me of a quote. John Quincy Adams said that duty is ours and results are God's. And I think we want to take on that result, but that means it's not ours. It's his, you know, in evangelism is his to harvest. Yeah. Somebody said once, it's like putting a pebble in their shoe.

Yeah. It reminds me of a, that reminds me of a quote. John Quincy Adams said that duty is ours and results are God's. And I think we want to take on that result, but that means it's not ours. It's his, you know, in evangelism is his to harvest. Yeah. Somebody said once, it's like putting a pebble in their shoe.

Just put a pebble in their shoe, and you don't know that that pebble is going to sit there, and it's going to cause them to continue to think about whatever you talked about.

Just put a pebble in their shoe, and you don't know that that pebble is going to sit there, and it's going to cause them to continue to think about whatever you talked about.

Yeah. Well, you had mentioned earlier that, uh, when you connected with that guy who'd led you to Christ, I think I've, cause I've watched your ministry from afar and kind of up close too, cause we've done some work together. Um, And I love what you and Jackie both do. And even like I've watched what's happening at your church in Atlanta, which is incredible.

Yeah. Well, you had mentioned earlier that, uh, when you connected with that guy who'd led you to Christ, I think I've, cause I've watched your ministry from afar and kind of up close too, cause we've done some work together. Um, And I love what you and Jackie both do. And even like I've watched what's happening at your church in Atlanta, which is incredible.

I mean, you guys are kind of in the middle of this incredible revival. I've watched your pastor preach. Man, that guy's got some fire. And I watch and I think, man, what is it? I've tried to identify like what's going on in like your sphere. And I think you said it with what you realized through the

I mean, you guys are kind of in the middle of this incredible revival. I've watched your pastor preach. Man, that guy's got some fire. And I watch and I think, man, what is it? I've tried to identify like what's going on in like your sphere. And I think you said it with what you realized through the

through the man who really led you to Christ or put that pebble in your shoe early on, is that recognition, you said it, of your sin. And you guys don't hold back talking about sin. I mean, you guys are on the front lines, I would say, speaking prophetically in the culture. I think I've told you this before. I know I've told Jackie. You guys are speaking prophetically in the culture about sin.

through the man who really led you to Christ or put that pebble in your shoe early on, is that recognition, you said it, of your sin. And you guys don't hold back talking about sin. I mean, you guys are on the front lines, I would say, speaking prophetically in the culture. I think I've told you this before. I know I've told Jackie. You guys are speaking prophetically in the culture about sin.

And I think as a storyteller, I make films and TV. In Christian art, I think where we've failed a lot is, you know, think about that creation, fall, redemption, restoration, consummation story that's in the Bible. We want to water down the fall part. We want to water down the sin part.

And I think as a storyteller, I make films and TV. In Christian art, I think where we've failed a lot is, you know, think about that creation, fall, redemption, restoration, consummation story that's in the Bible. We want to water down the fall part. We want to water down the sin part.

But it is that understanding, that awareness of our sin, that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. It really is what unites us all. And that the wages of sin is death.

But it is that understanding, that awareness of our sin, that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. It really is what unites us all. And that the wages of sin is death.

I'd love to hear you talk about the boldness of how you guys enter into that discussion because you don't hold back. None of you guys that I've seen in your circle hold back on the discussion around sin. You really are being very bold about doing that, but you're also doing it with love.

I'd love to hear you talk about the boldness of how you guys enter into that discussion because you don't hold back. None of you guys that I've seen in your circle hold back on the discussion around sin. You really are being very bold about doing that, but you're also doing it with love.

Yeah, which connects to the cry of the heart that you mentioned. The cry of the heart is, I'm trying to get back to my original condition. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, which connects to the cry of the heart that you mentioned. The cry of the heart is, I'm trying to get back to my original condition. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah.

But to be fair, Preston is a hunter now. He is a full-fledged hunter.

But to be fair, Preston is a hunter now. He is a full-fledged hunter.

He's a deer slayer.

He's a deer slayer.

I was thinking about Acts 2 when you were saying that, in Acts chapter 2, when he brings the nations back together, which we've argued on this podcast, it's a restoration of what happened at the Tower of Babel. But I always found it interesting that he does not eradicate the differences within the nations and the cultures.

I was thinking about Acts 2 when you were saying that, in Acts chapter 2, when he brings the nations back together, which we've argued on this podcast, it's a restoration of what happened at the Tower of Babel. But I always found it interesting that he does not eradicate the differences within the nations and the cultures.

He actually brings them together, and each one hears the other talking in his own native tongues. He doesn't give them a homogenous language that they're all – now what he does is one guy speaking in his native tongue, a diverse tongue, but now it can be understood. And I think about that eschatological picture of the kingdom that is in Scripture. It is a – N.T.

He actually brings them together, and each one hears the other talking in his own native tongues. He doesn't give them a homogenous language that they're all – now what he does is one guy speaking in his native tongue, a diverse tongue, but now it can be understood. And I think about that eschatological picture of the kingdom that is in Scripture. It is a – N.T.

Wright says it's like a coloration, a beautiful kaleidoscope in Ephesians where he says that the church makes the manifold wisdom known. to the principalities and the powers and the authorities in the heavenly realms.

Wright says it's like a coloration, a beautiful kaleidoscope in Ephesians where he says that the church makes the manifold wisdom known. to the principalities and the powers and the authorities in the heavenly realms.

She said, I'll put that in your fridge. What's the expiration date on it? I have to try that when I come down. I'm open. Oh, it's still cold.

She said, I'll put that in your fridge. What's the expiration date on it? I have to try that when I come down. I'm open. Oh, it's still cold.

That's the picture, and I love it because it is a picture of this beautiful kaleidoscope of different cultures and nations, and we're all kind of bringing our best to the table in the kingdom. And together, there is that. We make up the temple, Jesus being the cornerstone of the temple. God has now made his home in humans.

That's the picture, and I love it because it is a picture of this beautiful kaleidoscope of different cultures and nations, and we're all kind of bringing our best to the table in the kingdom. And together, there is that. We make up the temple, Jesus being the cornerstone of the temple. God has now made his home in humans.

That to me is like the most profound thing is that God has made his home in human bodies. That's beautiful.

That to me is like the most profound thing is that God has made his home in human bodies. That's beautiful.

Yeah, it's just penicillin. Here in France, yeah, they definitely eat the mold on it. She said several times. Let me respond with all due respect, obviously. And I want to be respectful here, but the other side of the argument is that she has something, like she's too vested in this. So she cannot see it objectively.

Yeah, it's just penicillin. Here in France, yeah, they definitely eat the mold on it. She said several times. Let me respond with all due respect, obviously. And I want to be respectful here, but the other side of the argument is that she has something, like she's too vested in this. So she cannot see it objectively.

And I will say that I actually buy their cheese and I use their cheese on sandwiches and everything else. Agree to agree. So you're not anti-cheese. No. You just think that's better. And they make the best cheese.

And I will say that I actually buy their cheese and I use their cheese on sandwiches and everything else. Agree to agree. So you're not anti-cheese. No. You just think that's better. And they make the best cheese.

That is natural American. I have not tried that. So I will try that brand. You take a picture of it, Al. Send it to me.

That is natural American. I have not tried that. So I will try that brand. You take a picture of it, Al. Send it to me.

No, I'm telling you.

No, I'm telling you.

No, the people have spoke. But now we have an expert on our side. You do have an expert, but also I think that her testimony is tainted because she is the heir to the empire. We're sorry. See what we had to deal with, Shelly.

No, the people have spoke. But now we have an expert on our side. You do have an expert, but also I think that her testimony is tainted because she is the heir to the empire. We're sorry. See what we had to deal with, Shelly.

Well, Jay, you're going to do it. You'll make the burgers. You'll do one my way, one with that cheese right there. Yeah, give it a fair shot. But here's my question. You've got to at least taste it, Jason.

Well, Jay, you're going to do it. You'll make the burgers. You'll do one my way, one with that cheese right there. Yeah, give it a fair shot. But here's my question. You've got to at least taste it, Jason.

You have not had mine.

You have not had mine.

That I'm telling you, you've got to do it the way I said it. And here's the thing. I don't even know if you can be objective at this point. I think you're so pot committed on this discussion. I don't know if you have the ability to be objective.

That I'm telling you, you've got to do it the way I said it. And here's the thing. I don't even know if you can be objective at this point. I think you're so pot committed on this discussion. I don't know if you have the ability to be objective.

Not by choice. And the fact that it won't melt. Well, let me add one thing to that before. I know we got to get to our break because we've got a guest coming on back. Yeah. Some of the best food that you've ever put in your mouth was born out of poverty. Jambalaya, gumbo, most of the Cajun foods, they all came out of that poverty culture. So don't knock it for its origins, Chase.

Not by choice. And the fact that it won't melt. Well, let me add one thing to that before. I know we got to get to our break because we've got a guest coming on back. Yeah. Some of the best food that you've ever put in your mouth was born out of poverty. Jambalaya, gumbo, most of the Cajun foods, they all came out of that poverty culture. So don't knock it for its origins, Chase.

And I will say this about her saying that it sticks to the roof of your mouth. Only if it's cold. If it's melted onto a hamburger, it does not stick to the roof of your mouth. It actually becomes almost like a... It's not quite a sauce because it's not that runny, but it's like it's in between like a cheese melt and a sauce. But it kind of infuses. That's what makes it good.

And I will say this about her saying that it sticks to the roof of your mouth. Only if it's cold. If it's melted onto a hamburger, it does not stick to the roof of your mouth. It actually becomes almost like a... It's not quite a sauce because it's not that runny, but it's like it's in between like a cheese melt and a sauce. But it kind of infuses. That's what makes it good.

It infuses with the burger. It's burger fusion.

It infuses with the burger. It's burger fusion.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

We were there with God Behind Bars. Layla was singing with Ella Worship and Preston gave his testimony and preached, which I have to say, you did awesome, man. He brought the house down.

We were there with God Behind Bars. Layla was singing with Ella Worship and Preston gave his testimony and preached, which I have to say, you did awesome, man. He brought the house down.

Okay.

Okay.

So my daughter-in-law sends me a text, which is not a common occurrence because my wife was in Nashville. My daughter-in-law sends me a text that says, are you coming to Nashville for Resurrection Weekend? Well, you know, it just kind of hit me. I hadn't seen my grandkids in a while. My wife is there.

So my daughter-in-law sends me a text, which is not a common occurrence because my wife was in Nashville. My daughter-in-law sends me a text that says, are you coming to Nashville for Resurrection Weekend? Well, you know, it just kind of hit me. I hadn't seen my grandkids in a while. My wife is there.

You brought down Alabama football. I did not. You're saying that was the Lord's timing? It was the Lord's timing.

You brought down Alabama football. I did not. You're saying that was the Lord's timing? It was the Lord's timing.

I thought you were going to say the state of Alabama stormed your house. That's how you write.

I thought you were going to say the state of Alabama stormed your house. That's how you write.

so you've made yeah you've made it okay I was wondering if you've ever done an event in Alabama since that song came out oh yeah well I mean you know Christian's an Auburn guy so they love it down there so Auburn well I'm sure they love it yeah Auburn loves it yeah Because I was fixing to say my son just proposed marriage to a girl from Alabama, but she went to Auburn, so she's good, right?

so you've made yeah you've made it okay I was wondering if you've ever done an event in Alabama since that song came out oh yeah well I mean you know Christian's an Auburn guy so they love it down there so Auburn well I'm sure they love it yeah Auburn loves it yeah Because I was fixing to say my son just proposed marriage to a girl from Alabama, but she went to Auburn, so she's good, right?

Oh, y'all are going.

Oh, y'all are going.

I'm like, I thought the event was on Saturday, so I never contemplated going because the event was on Friday. And I thought, why don't I just surprise them? And so because I thought Missy would be coming back Sunday after the resurrection service, which, by the way, was at my son was leading worship and they had rented out the Ryman Theater in downtown Nashville. And I was like, what am I doing?

I'm like, I thought the event was on Saturday, so I never contemplated going because the event was on Friday. And I thought, why don't I just surprise them? And so because I thought Missy would be coming back Sunday after the resurrection service, which, by the way, was at my son was leading worship and they had rented out the Ryman Theater in downtown Nashville. And I was like, what am I doing?

Well, congratulations. See, my dad, he's always had a way. Like if someone's dating, and Al will remember this hundreds of times, he'll meet somebody and he'll say, hey, Connor, it's better to marry than to burn with passion. And then if you say, yeah, I think I'm going to marry you, then he comes back with the verse. What is that one he says? Oh, it's the one in 1 Corinthians 7.

Well, congratulations. See, my dad, he's always had a way. Like if someone's dating, and Al will remember this hundreds of times, he'll meet somebody and he'll say, hey, Connor, it's better to marry than to burn with passion. And then if you say, yeah, I think I'm going to marry you, then he comes back with the verse. What is that one he says? Oh, it's the one in 1 Corinthians 7.

He said, I want to warn you, though. Life is, I mean, a marriage is filled with trouble.

He said, I want to warn you, though. Life is, I mean, a marriage is filled with trouble.

Isn't that funny? Let me just tell you what really happened. Zach did one of the more stupid stunts that a husband could ever do. He forgot the rule, which is a godly principle, that when you get married, in God's math, it's supernatural math. It is one, one man plus one woman equals one. So that's math that you won't find at your local public school.

Isn't that funny? Let me just tell you what really happened. Zach did one of the more stupid stunts that a husband could ever do. He forgot the rule, which is a godly principle, that when you get married, in God's math, it's supernatural math. It is one, one man plus one woman equals one. So that's math that you won't find at your local public school.

So Zach has this moment that says, oh, Florida, because he's a Florida fan. She's from Alabama and is an Alabama fan. And we probably shouldn't let her listen to this, probably. Trust me, she doesn't listen. So Zach's like, well, Florida basketball goes to the whatever. What do they go to? Final four. The final four. And so Zach, he starts buying tickets without remembering the one plus one.

So Zach has this moment that says, oh, Florida, because he's a Florida fan. She's from Alabama and is an Alabama fan. And we probably shouldn't let her listen to this, probably. Trust me, she doesn't listen. So Zach's like, well, Florida basketball goes to the whatever. What do they go to? Final four. The final four. And so Zach, he starts buying tickets without remembering the one plus one.

No, no. Hold on, Zach. I'm not finished. I'm not finished. So he invites his son, never invites his wife.

No, no. Hold on, Zach. I'm not finished. I'm not finished. So he invites his son, never invites his wife.

Well, because he's like, well, she's not a Florida fan. She's you. If you're going to any event, the first invitation is to your wife because one plus one is one. And so then he calls her and says, can you come pick me up in Louisiana? So not only did he not invite her, then she drives 11 hours.

Well, because he's like, well, she's not a Florida fan. She's you. If you're going to any event, the first invitation is to your wife because one plus one is one. And so then he calls her and says, can you come pick me up in Louisiana? So not only did he not invite her, then she drives 11 hours.

I got to go to Nashville, you know, support my kids. My son's leading worship. And so I made the change. I had to tell one person, so I called Reed because I was like, because I'm going to need a ride here at some point from the airport and all this kind of stuff.

I got to go to Nashville, you know, support my kids. My son's leading worship. And so I made the change. I had to tell one person, so I called Reed because I was like, because I'm going to need a ride here at some point from the airport and all this kind of stuff.

to pick him up and then it's like oh while you're here come on our podcast so as soon as she party bus you've taken the story you've taken the story to a different level now that's not actually what happened now these are the facts so look then when she sat out on the podcast she just exploded it had nothing to do with me or al she said i said are you are you are you upset and she's like yeah

to pick him up and then it's like oh while you're here come on our podcast so as soon as she party bus you've taken the story you've taken the story to a different level now that's not actually what happened now these are the facts so look then when she sat out on the podcast she just exploded it had nothing to do with me or al she said i said are you are you are you upset and she's like yeah

And she told us that story.

And she told us that story.

So is your wife from Alabama?

So is your wife from Alabama?

Here we go.

Here we go.

Okay, so if Tennessee ever makes it to any kind of championship game, remember, don't say, oh, you're from North Carolina. I mean, she's in. I mean, that's something you want to experience with your wife.

Okay, so if Tennessee ever makes it to any kind of championship game, remember, don't say, oh, you're from North Carolina. I mean, she's in. I mean, that's something you want to experience with your wife.

So Connor, you read that verse and did you then say...

So Connor, you read that verse and did you then say...

Yeah, I'm surprised at Missy and my daughter-in-law, Reed's wife, and my grandkid. So I kept the secret. And because Reed was practicing for the worship service, and the session, I mean, the timing just all worked out. It was like right about the time my plane was landing, he was going to be just a few minutes away.

Yeah, I'm surprised at Missy and my daughter-in-law, Reed's wife, and my grandkid. So I kept the secret. And because Reed was practicing for the worship service, and the session, I mean, the timing just all worked out. It was like right about the time my plane was landing, he was going to be just a few minutes away.

They either celebrate or boo.

They either celebrate or boo.

I was like, I'll just get an Uber and meet you there, which everything was working great. And so we go to his house, and I thought Missy would be there, but she wasn't. She was at our farm. And so then when she wasn't there... Because I had a prank in mind. Here's what I was going to do.

I was like, I'll just get an Uber and meet you there, which everything was working great. And so we go to his house, and I thought Missy would be there, but she wasn't. She was at our farm. And so then when she wasn't there... Because I had a prank in mind. Here's what I was going to do.

No, I didn't complain. I just gave you the facts. The... Worst thing about trees is that they grow slow.

No, I didn't complain. I just gave you the facts. The... Worst thing about trees is that they grow slow.

I was like, you go in and say you picked up a hitchhiker in the neighborhood and you're going to fix him a meal and just see what they do. And I was like, then I'll come in a minute later and be like, ah, I'm the hitchhiker. So that was the plan.

I was like, you go in and say you picked up a hitchhiker in the neighborhood and you're going to fix him a meal and just see what they do. And I was like, then I'll come in a minute later and be like, ah, I'm the hitchhiker. So that was the plan.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know what's crazy? You said that so like two nights ago, I was doing a show and I was west of Abilene, middle of nowhere. I think there was 94 people there.

You know what's crazy? You said that so like two nights ago, I was doing a show and I was west of Abilene, middle of nowhere. I think there was 94 people there.

I'm just going to tell you what happened. You can do with this what you want. I was asked to go and be a part of this show. It was a jazz concert. And someone, they had had a meeting, and they wanted to do a fundraiser for... to raise money for these high school kids who are jazz musicians. And it was about 30 of them. And I'm at the concert. So I kept thinking, well, why am I here?

I'm just going to tell you what happened. You can do with this what you want. I was asked to go and be a part of this show. It was a jazz concert. And someone, they had had a meeting, and they wanted to do a fundraiser for... to raise money for these high school kids who are jazz musicians. And it was about 30 of them. And I'm at the concert. So I kept thinking, well, why am I here?

I assumed it was a Christian school because I'm more about my faith than anything else. But, oh, no. They said, well, we know you're musically inclined. Because you blow a duck call. So I thought, wow. So it was the same atmosphere you described. I quickly figured out that the people in the audience, even though it wasn't a lot of people, it was basically a private party. They had a lot of money.

I assumed it was a Christian school because I'm more about my faith than anything else. But, oh, no. They said, well, we know you're musically inclined. Because you blow a duck call. So I thought, wow. So it was the same atmosphere you described. I quickly figured out that the people in the audience, even though it wasn't a lot of people, it was basically a private party. They had a lot of money.

And that's why they were there. And they had the concert. And I was just there to kind of bridge the gap. But it's funny because I don't know what they thought I was going to say. But when those kids who were, when I say they were talented, it was off the charts. But I went the same direction you did. I said, you know what you just saw there? This is my opening line.

And that's why they were there. And they had the concert. And I was just there to kind of bridge the gap. But it's funny because I don't know what they thought I was going to say. But when those kids who were, when I say they were talented, it was off the charts. But I went the same direction you did. I said, you know what you just saw there? This is my opening line.

I said, you saw the image of God being shown through their talents. Because they were doing most of their songs ad lib just off the top of their head, and it was really impressive. Of course, I have my Bible. I did my little duck call thing. I was like, it's a lot like playing a trombone, I think.

I said, you saw the image of God being shown through their talents. Because they were doing most of their songs ad lib just off the top of their head, and it was really impressive. Of course, I have my Bible. I did my little duck call thing. I was like, it's a lot like playing a trombone, I think.

Of course, I share Jesus, and just like you said, the total atmosphere changed because I'm pretty sure me and the kids were the few sober people there. But I think it went well, and it was one of the few events I stayed after because there was only 94 people there, so it wasn't a rush to the door. And, you know, the altar call just happened organically. People came up with tears in their eyes.

Of course, I share Jesus, and just like you said, the total atmosphere changed because I'm pretty sure me and the kids were the few sober people there. But I think it went well, and it was one of the few events I stayed after because there was only 94 people there, so it wasn't a rush to the door. And, you know, the altar call just happened organically. People came up with tears in their eyes.

It's like we need to hear more about that. So I think that's Jesus stuff.

It's like we need to hear more about that. So I think that's Jesus stuff.

You know?

You know?

That was my thinking. It'll be great. We'll take pictures. It'll be good. Well, when Missy wasn't there, Reed was like, well, forget that idea. I was like, yeah, okay, you're right. So now we're no longer pranking because I just thought, what am I going to prank my daughter-in-law? I mean, it just kind of got weird. So I'm getting all my stuff. Well, he goes on in the house.

That was my thinking. It'll be great. We'll take pictures. It'll be good. Well, when Missy wasn't there, Reed was like, well, forget that idea. I was like, yeah, okay, you're right. So now we're no longer pranking because I just thought, what am I going to prank my daughter-in-law? I mean, it just kind of got weird. So I'm getting all my stuff. Well, he goes on in the house.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Some people blow a duck call.

Some people blow a duck call.

This is actually better than we previously planned. Well, when I walked in, Brighton, Reed's wife, had followed him. You got to look at it from her perspective because I thought the prank's over. But when I came in, she didn't realize someone was with him, obviously. Because we had gone to the grocery store. We had to do a bunch of errands because they were feeding a lot of their friends.

This is actually better than we previously planned. Well, when I walked in, Brighton, Reed's wife, had followed him. You got to look at it from her perspective because I thought the prank's over. But when I came in, she didn't realize someone was with him, obviously. Because we had gone to the grocery store. We had to do a bunch of errands because they were feeding a lot of their friends.

Yeah, I thought he was going to say this moment because my wife reminded me last night because I thought, Connor Smith. I was like, oh, he's a country music singer. And I said in front of my wife, I don't want to hurt your feelings. I said, what do I know about country music? I was like, what are we going to talk about? She said, babe, you were part of country music. And I was like, what?

Yeah, I thought he was going to say this moment because my wife reminded me last night because I thought, Connor Smith. I was like, oh, he's a country music singer. And I said in front of my wife, I don't want to hurt your feelings. I said, what do I know about country music? I was like, what are we going to talk about? She said, babe, you were part of country music. And I was like, what?

She's like, you don't remember? We have a country music album that you sang on, or mostly talked, but on one song, that went platinum. That Christmas record y'all did or something? Yeah. So she said, and did you realize that it was the number one Christmas album in 2013? And I was like, well, the number one Christmas album. She said, we beat Garth Brooks. Yeah. And I thought, are you kidding me?

She's like, you don't remember? We have a country music album that you sang on, or mostly talked, but on one song, that went platinum. That Christmas record y'all did or something? Yeah. So she said, and did you realize that it was the number one Christmas album in 2013? And I was like, well, the number one Christmas album. She said, we beat Garth Brooks. Yeah. And I thought, are you kidding me?

And I'm not bragging because I just found this out last night. I was like, what does going platinum mean? But she said, you don't remember the whole time we were doing it, you said this will never work, which I did. I was like, this will never work. But what it made me think, the reason I'm telling... telling you that is really singing is storytelling.

And I'm not bragging because I just found this out last night. I was like, what does going platinum mean? But she said, you don't remember the whole time we were doing it, you said this will never work, which I did. I was like, this will never work. But what it made me think, the reason I'm telling... telling you that is really singing is storytelling.

And I saw that all over the place where the media and your fans when I was researching you, that seemed to be the one thing that came out above all others. And so I'm not shocked because the greatest story in the world is the story of Jesus. And so I think you combining that in this kind of spirit-filled way is why, you know, the Lord is blessing your endeavors.

And I saw that all over the place where the media and your fans when I was researching you, that seemed to be the one thing that came out above all others. And so I'm not shocked because the greatest story in the world is the story of Jesus. And so I think you combining that in this kind of spirit-filled way is why, you know, the Lord is blessing your endeavors.

And a lot of the people who sang in the worship that night, which then I realized I was wrong about when Missy was coming back because she was cooking. She cooked crawfish pies, and he did kind of a prime rib. So that's why. Then the problem with surprises is, is she wasn't coming back till Monday in which we have podcasts and we had a guest coming on.

And a lot of the people who sang in the worship that night, which then I realized I was wrong about when Missy was coming back because she was cooking. She cooked crawfish pies, and he did kind of a prime rib. So that's why. Then the problem with surprises is, is she wasn't coming back till Monday in which we have podcasts and we had a guest coming on.

You know what's weird about this? So I did an event west of Abilene, but I'll probably share that with our guests because it may be I have a similar way. I had a similar occurrence because I did this. It was like a jazz concert with young people and they were raising money for that. And you're like, why were you there? Which is what I was asking myself the first 10 minutes I was there.

You know what's weird about this? So I did an event west of Abilene, but I'll probably share that with our guests because it may be I have a similar way. I had a similar occurrence because I did this. It was like a jazz concert with young people and they were raising money for that. And you're like, why were you there? Which is what I was asking myself the first 10 minutes I was there.

So I was like, oh, can we move this to Tuesday? So anyway, I walk in and well, she has her back to me and Reed's kind of grinning because he sees me and then it hit me. I was like, oh, she doesn't know I'm here yet. So I just walked up and put my arm around her from the back, you know, just put my arm around her shoulder. When she looked at me, I'm going to try to imitate what she did.

So I was like, oh, can we move this to Tuesday? So anyway, I walk in and well, she has her back to me and Reed's kind of grinning because he sees me and then it hit me. I was like, oh, she doesn't know I'm here yet. So I just walked up and put my arm around her from the back, you know, just put my arm around her shoulder. When she looked at me, I'm going to try to imitate what she did.

He said, I wasn't bragging. I was laughing at Jace, too. I just found out about that. I was like, I still didn't think that worked. I don't do social media and stuff.

He said, I wasn't bragging. I was laughing at Jace, too. I just found out about that. I was like, I still didn't think that worked. I don't do social media and stuff.

I gave you a 1913.

I gave you a 1913.

Connor, just when I thought I was done with country music, the Lord sent you and pulled me back in.

Connor, just when I thought I was done with country music, the Lord sent you and pulled me back in.

Well, remember this. When the creeks rise, I'm moving blinds. This is a once-in-a-five-year opportunity to get the blind on the X. Come on.

Well, remember this. When the creeks rise, I'm moving blinds. This is a once-in-a-five-year opportunity to get the blind on the X. Come on.

This is terror. It was terror to a degree that she started violently shaking even after she realized it was me. Well, then I was like, Lee was laughing. I was no longer laughing. I thought, are you okay? And she was like, no. I mean, it scared her. I was like, well, your husband was right here. It terrified her, and I apologized the rest of the weekend.

This is terror. It was terror to a degree that she started violently shaking even after she realized it was me. Well, then I was like, Lee was laughing. I was no longer laughing. I thought, are you okay? And she was like, no. I mean, it scared her. I was like, well, your husband was right here. It terrified her, and I apologized the rest of the weekend.

And then, so then I was so distraught that we then talked about, she was asking me a lot of biblical questions for three hours. We were waiting for Missy to be there, and I was going to lay down on the couch, and then when she came in, I was going to pop up.

And then, so then I was so distraught that we then talked about, she was asking me a lot of biblical questions for three hours. We were waiting for Missy to be there, and I was going to lay down on the couch, and then when she came in, I was going to pop up.

But we got so enthroned in this conversation, because Reed fell asleep on the couch, that Missy pulled in without either one of us knowing it, and she just walked in.

But we got so enthroned in this conversation, because Reed fell asleep on the couch, that Missy pulled in without either one of us knowing it, and she just walked in.

I'm just sitting there, and she's like, What are you doing here? So it was like, no surprise. So then I was like, wah, wah, wah. No surprise happened. All I did basically with the surprise is terrorize my daughter-in-law. And then Missy was like, what are you doing here? Well, how are you going to do podcasts? You know, it was immediately went into...

I'm just sitting there, and she's like, What are you doing here? So it was like, no surprise. So then I was like, wah, wah, wah. No surprise happened. All I did basically with the surprise is terrorize my daughter-in-law. And then Missy was like, what are you doing here? Well, how are you going to do podcasts? You know, it was immediately went into...

The smart person in the room, which is my wife, said, we have a logistical nightmare. So then I bumbled off and started making calls saying, what are the odds that we can push this back a little bit? Which then, what's weird is our guest is from Nashville. I was in Nashville, and then we had to rearrange the whole schedule so we could come down to Louisiana and have a podcast. So that's on y'all.

The smart person in the room, which is my wife, said, we have a logistical nightmare. So then I bumbled off and started making calls saying, what are the odds that we can push this back a little bit? Which then, what's weird is our guest is from Nashville. I was in Nashville, and then we had to rearrange the whole schedule so we could come down to Louisiana and have a podcast. So that's on y'all.

Our kids are there. Let me tell you this story. You're not going to believe this. Because when you go to Nashville, things happen. Things happen. You're never going to guess what happened on Sunday morning. All right. We go to the Easter service. You know, we're at the Ryman. I mean, it's, you know. It was packed. I saw it on Instagram. Everything was packed. So I go outside after the service.

Our kids are there. Let me tell you this story. You're not going to believe this. Because when you go to Nashville, things happen. Things happen. You're never going to guess what happened on Sunday morning. All right. We go to the Easter service. You know, we're at the Ryman. I mean, it's, you know. It was packed. I saw it on Instagram. Everything was packed. So I go outside after the service.

I was actually looking for a bathroom. And because they wouldn't let me in. And look, it was complete facial profiling. So I terrorized not only my daughter-in-law, but the security guard. Because I was like, I really need to go to the bathroom. He said, you're not coming in there. I was like, I was just in there, you know, because I walked out. Yeah.

I was actually looking for a bathroom. And because they wouldn't let me in. And look, it was complete facial profiling. So I terrorized not only my daughter-in-law, but the security guard. Because I was like, I really need to go to the bathroom. He said, you're not coming in there. I was like, I was just in there, you know, because I walked out. Yeah.

And then I was like, oh, I got to go to the bathroom. He's like, no. So I wound up bribing some company that hadn't opened next door to let me in. But I had to go get Missy. I was like, she's with me, and this is an emergency. And so anyway, guess who I bumped into, who went to the same service I did with a friend of my son's, which is weird.

And then I was like, oh, I got to go to the bathroom. He's like, no. So I wound up bribing some company that hadn't opened next door to let me in. But I had to go get Missy. I was like, she's with me, and this is an emergency. And so anyway, guess who I bumped into, who went to the same service I did with a friend of my son's, which is weird.

Guess who I bumped into just outside the Ryman restaurant on the sidewalk while I'm looking for a bathroom.

Guess who I bumped into just outside the Ryman restaurant on the sidewalk while I'm looking for a bathroom.

No, Brock Purdy, the starting quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. Remember I told the story a few weeks ago about one of his offensive linemen meeting me at my house during his bye week, coming to Jesus, and it all started from a conversation that he heard Brock having with somebody else about he was ready for Jesus to come back, you know, and it convicted Colton, led him to me.

No, Brock Purdy, the starting quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. Remember I told the story a few weeks ago about one of his offensive linemen meeting me at my house during his bye week, coming to Jesus, and it all started from a conversation that he heard Brock having with somebody else about he was ready for Jesus to come back, you know, and it convicted Colton, led him to me.

And I was like, what in the world? And he's like, small world. And so I'm glad we got to meet. So we took a picture. It was Missy's idea because somebody asked me that because I told my son. He's like, did you ask for the picture or did he? And I was like, no. Number one, he was way more popular than I was. While we were standing there chatting, him and his wife, he got like 10 picture requests.

And I was like, what in the world? And he's like, small world. And so I'm glad we got to meet. So we took a picture. It was Missy's idea because somebody asked me that because I told my son. He's like, did you ask for the picture or did he? And I was like, no. Number one, he was way more popular than I was. While we were standing there chatting, him and his wife, he got like 10 picture requests.

It was literally a jazz concert. They got all the rich people from around, and they were raising money. And then it finally hit me. Oh, I can blow a duck call. I'm musical. And you're like, oh, that's a joke. No, that was it. That was it. And so they wanted me to talk about music and the similarities, tell a few jokes. Of course, it wound up to be a Jesus sermon. And it was just a secular event.

It was literally a jazz concert. They got all the rich people from around, and they were raising money. And then it finally hit me. Oh, I can blow a duck call. I'm musical. And you're like, oh, that's a joke. No, that was it. That was it. And so they wanted me to talk about music and the similarities, tell a few jokes. Of course, it wound up to be a Jesus sermon. And it was just a secular event.

And I'm like, because he looked, you know, you see these football players now, but when you see them in real life, he just looked like a kid. Yeah. And he was about the same size as me. I'm like, how have you not just been destroyed? Because, you know, his offensive lineman, I mean, he could eat him. I mean, he's just so huge. And I thought, man, it must be. You must have God's presence on you.

And I'm like, because he looked, you know, you see these football players now, but when you see them in real life, he just looked like a kid. Yeah. And he was about the same size as me. I'm like, how have you not just been destroyed? Because, you know, his offensive lineman, I mean, he could eat him. I mean, he's just so huge. And I thought, man, it must be. You must have God's presence on you.

You know, I didn't tell him because you look small to me. I didn't say that. I just said, you know, you're in a world where dangerous men, you know. But so we kind of caught up with that. And that was awesome.

You know, I didn't tell him because you look small to me. I didn't say that. I just said, you know, you're in a world where dangerous men, you know. But so we kind of caught up with that. And that was awesome.

Oh, that would have let him right in and probably rolled out a red carpet.

Oh, that would have let him right in and probably rolled out a red carpet.

And he made us feel all at home because we're the only ones wearing camouflage. It's a really good start.

And he made us feel all at home because we're the only ones wearing camouflage. It's a really good start.

Well, they can actually sing. I had to familiarize myself with the country music world since I knew you were coming on.

Well, they can actually sing. I had to familiarize myself with the country music world since I knew you were coming on.

We've had a weird relationship through the years. I kind of had one moment when Country Boy Can't Survive came out. I thought you were going to say Country Girl Shake It For Me, but I didn't know where you fit into the country genre. You just said a title that I'm really glad I'm not familiar with. Country Girl Shake It For Me. No, I missed that one.

We've had a weird relationship through the years. I kind of had one moment when Country Boy Can't Survive came out. I thought you were going to say Country Girl Shake It For Me, but I didn't know where you fit into the country genre. You just said a title that I'm really glad I'm not familiar with. Country Girl Shake It For Me. No, I missed that one.

It wasn't like a Christian event, but we turned it into one.

It wasn't like a Christian event, but we turned it into one.

But because I thought now country boy, because I never, you know, we were raised, my dad, he was kind of a, well, how would you depict his music? He was kind of a classic rock guy. He liked Queen and Foreigner.