Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1079 | Jase Contemplates Taking Back Missy’s Diamond Ring After Discovering Biblical Gemstones
Wed, 23 Apr 2025
Jase stumbles onto a biblical revelation about God’s gemstones that leaves him wondering if Missy’s diamond ring needs to go. Zach gets publicly roasted for his cheapskate tendencies and grocery bill complaints, but he manages to tie his thriftiness back to a deeper spiritual truth. The guys dig into Isaiah and Revelation, connecting God’s promises to eternal life and the “crisis of meaning” plaguing the world. Plus, Jase’s son fears waking Missy from her nap, and the Robertsons reveal just how sacred their sleep really is. In this episode: Isaiah 54, verse 12; Isaiah 55, verse 1; John 3, verses 19-21; Revelation 21, verses 9-21; 1 Timothy 6, verses 12-16; 2 Chronicles 36, verse 23 “Unashamed” Episode 1079 is sponsored by: Abide — Get 25% off a premium subscription, for a limited time only, when you text “unashamed” to 22433! https://vom.org/unashamed — Request your free copy of When Faith is Forbidden today by visiting the website or by calling 844-463-4059. https://preborn.com/unashamed — Click the link or dial #250 and use keyword BABY to donate today. https://puretalk.com/unashamed — Get 50% off your first month when you make the switch! Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What biblical revelation does Jase discover?
You know what's hit me, Zach? I finally realized what was the smoking gun to you coming to Jesus. What was that? Isaiah 55, 1. Come. Come all. Come, everyone who thirsts. Come to the waters. Wait for it, Zach. And he who has no money, come buy and eat. Come buy wine and milk without money. Your cheapskate type tendencies actually led you to Jesus because he said, I have bread that costs no money.
I came with what Francis Schaeffer called the empty hands of faith. I had nothing in my hands. I knew that. I was there.
Well, remember, what was it back in John 2? How many gallons of wine did Jesus turn from water into wine? I mean, that's Zach's right up his alley. It's like, man, free wine. Gallons of wine. That's funny.
I don't care. All right. So I had a funny little thing that happened. And speaking of passages in Isaiah that I said I was going to get back to. My son sent me a video and it was like a seven minute video. And he said, what do you think about this? So it was a scientist who was basically breaking down a passage in Revelation 21.
And what's also funny about the conversation before I get into that is, you know, Reed was also asking me like, what to tell his mom about, because we're rebuilding our house, which has been a year since our house got hit by a tornado. And I was like, Reed, isn't she there? And he's like, well, yeah, but I'm asking you because I'm pretty sure she's asleep. It was like in the morning.
He was at my house.
He was asking me.
He didn't want to wake her up.
Yeah, he didn't want to wake her up, which I thought was funny. But I was like, well, why don't you go in there and ask her?
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Chapter 2: Why does Zach get roasted for his grocery bill?
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So that's my lead up to this. And I want to read the Isaiah 54 because I promised on the last podcast I'd do that. And I do want to say that... My son sent this to me, so when I responded to his text, I said, this is awesome. I think I put, I love this in all caps. I said, however, he did miss one vital point about Revelation 21. Okay, so if you read the Isaiah 54 that I purposely skipped over.
It was verse 12. Yeah. Remember when we read this about... This idea of Israel being God's wife. And look, I want to say something, too, about created in the image of God before the beginning of time. You know, this was God's plan to bring Jesus for those from all nations to be gathered under one head. That is Christ. Think Ephesians 1 or Colossians, you know, says that.
And so in that light, he's talking about, he's predicting salvation, among other things, reconciliation, everlasting love. We read the verse in John 6 about your children, you'll teach your children, you'll pass this on to your children. I mean, there's hope coming. Well, right in the middle of this in Isaiah 54,
He says in verse 11, O afflicted one, storm-tossed and not comforted, behold, I will set your stones in... This says antimony. I don't even know what that means.
Turquoise.
Turquoise? Okay. And lay your foundation with sapphires... I will make your tentacles of a gate. Well, these are all precious stones. All right? All of your wall of precious stones. Oh, that's what verse 12 says. And then verse 13 says what John...
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Chapter 3: What does Isaiah 55:1 mean about coming to Jesus?
So, Jace, I don't know if you know this or not, but you and I were young lads, young men, I guess, in the school of preaching. And the first time I heard the word martyr was actually from you. You'd been reading a book, and you were telling me about how much it inspired you. Do you remember that?
I do remember that, because I just remember thinking, why would these people who were eyewitnesses of Jesus...
choose to give their life or have it taken from them rather than deny that jesus was who he said he was very inspiring those inspirational stories continue on because persecution is all around the world and voice of the martyrs is a group that highlights that their radio host is a guy named todd nettleton and todd has written a book that jace has there if you're watching when faith is forbidden 40 days on the front lines with persecuted christians
And what Todd did is he traveled around for 20 years into restricted nations to interview these courageous Christians who live their faith at great personal cost. And he told their stories. And that's what this book is about. These bold believers, what they went through for Christ, what they continue to go through for Christ, every stop on the journey.
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What the guy's point was is we just discovered that in the last 50 years.
How did the writer of the book of Revelation know that?
You think, well, maybe he just got lucky, you know, which I think he was carried along by the Holy Spirit. But it comes back to what I started to in John 3. When if you're basing it on human eyes, we pick the diamonds, the rubies, the opal. Well, none of these reflect under a microscope with intense light.
Well, think about all the verses that says, you know, God lives in unapproachable light, you know. And think about, too, where Revelation is going when it says, verse 22 says, I did not see a temple in the city because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. Look at the next verse.
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Chapter 4: What humorous situation arises with Reed and Missy?
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And it's, it's called, um, The meaning crisis, like there's a crisis of meaning that the secular world is like taking note of and taking away. This is a lot of people that at our church, for example, that have come to know Christ. In fact, we had a podcast, if I'm not yet now, where I interviewed a couple Christians. that came out of Silicon Valley, Jordan and Vanessa Hall.
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