Missy Robertson

I am unashamed. What about you?

I am unashamed. What about you?

He was asking me.

He was asking me.

Yeah, he didn't want to wake her up, which I thought was funny. But I was like, well, why don't you go in there and ask her?

Yeah, he didn't want to wake her up, which I thought was funny. But I was like, well, why don't you go in there and ask her?

I was like, oh, no. Why did I buy that diamond? That was a reflection that I didn't know my Bible.

I was like, oh, no. Why did I buy that diamond? That was a reflection that I didn't know my Bible.

Speaking of ADD.

Speaking of ADD.

Exactly.

Exactly.

It's a sign.

It's a sign.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She went, it scared her.

She went, it scared her.

Sorry. That was the only one.

Sorry. That was the only one.

Okay.

Okay.

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. We were just laughing at Zach Jace, which we do a lot in leading up to our podcast. You said he's going through a midlife crisis.

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. We were just laughing at Zach Jace, which we do a lot in leading up to our podcast. You said he's going through a midlife crisis.

Right.

Right.

And you're also seeing Paul. Remember, he's riding a fault line here between the Jewish mindset that he's been a part of. And now this Gentile. that comes in, this is like two rivers coming together. So when he's describing in Corinthians and Ephesians, he's also speaking to this same exact thing of temple and coming together husband and wife, but he's speaking to one group

And you're also seeing Paul. Remember, he's riding a fault line here between the Jewish mindset that he's been a part of. And now this Gentile. that comes in, this is like two rivers coming together. So when he's describing in Corinthians and Ephesians, he's also speaking to this same exact thing of temple and coming together husband and wife, but he's speaking to one group

that had a whole betrothal process. Everybody was a Hebrew. They understood Yahweh along with all these people that had no semblance of that whatsoever.

that had a whole betrothal process. Everybody was a Hebrew. They understood Yahweh along with all these people that had no semblance of that whatsoever.

All right, we're going to land this plane. We've got our guests coming on, so we're going to take a break. When we come back, we'll introduce our guests for today.

All right, we're going to land this plane. We've got our guests coming on, so we're going to take a break. When we come back, we'll introduce our guests for today.

I actually have a granddaughter that got married. So I'm just, you know, at any moment's notice from being a great-grandfather, Zach. So, yes, it went by super fast.

I actually have a granddaughter that got married. So I'm just, you know, at any moment's notice from being a great-grandfather, Zach. So, yes, it went by super fast.

That's why Chase and I didn't get invited. Yep, I didn't get the invite. We just found out. Thank you, Lisa, for clearing that up. I was like, why didn't we get to go to London? Oh, it's for only smart people. Okay, we got it.

That's why Chase and I didn't get invited. Yep, I didn't get the invite. We just found out. Thank you, Lisa, for clearing that up. I was like, why didn't we get to go to London? Oh, it's for only smart people. Okay, we got it.

But if you have four boys and a lot of grandkids, you're doing a lot of cooking. I know that at some point into the process.

But if you have four boys and a lot of grandkids, you're doing a lot of cooking. I know that at some point into the process.

Yeah, we have a yearly marriage refresh we do for our church, but it's kind of expanded now. because we have such an impact because of this podcast and other reasons. So we've got people that come from all over the country for a couple of weekends. And it's just really neat. Lisa and I usually are a part of it. Sometimes we do some teaching. This time we did a little bit of our story.

Yeah, we have a yearly marriage refresh we do for our church, but it's kind of expanded now. because we have such an impact because of this podcast and other reasons. So we've got people that come from all over the country for a couple of weekends. And it's just really neat. Lisa and I usually are a part of it. Sometimes we do some teaching. This time we did a little bit of our story.

And one of the things, Lisa, that I was very interested in, and I haven't read any books yet that you've written, but I'm excited to do that,

And one of the things, Lisa, that I was very interested in, and I haven't read any books yet that you've written, but I'm excited to do that,

is we talk a lot about sort of the trauma of our own lives as individuals and how the way we describe it is we came into marriage and we had this picture of this giant pile of suitcases and we said we just brought all these suitcases in, but instead of really opening them up and kind of seeing what was all in there, we just kind of stuffed them in every available crawl space of our marriage.

is we talk a lot about sort of the trauma of our own lives as individuals and how the way we describe it is we came into marriage and we had this picture of this giant pile of suitcases and we said we just brought all these suitcases in, but instead of really opening them up and kind of seeing what was all in there, we just kind of stuffed them in every available crawl space of our marriage.

But you act like that's out of bounds.

But you act like that's out of bounds.

And then all of a sudden it was like a spring trap that came about, you know, for us about the 15 year mark where all these things just came rushing out and almost destroyed us. I mean, it was just, like a tsunami of difficulty. Lisa had been molested as a child. She'd had an abortion as a teenager. I had been a prodigal and gotten into all sorts of stuff myself.

And then all of a sudden it was like a spring trap that came about, you know, for us about the 15 year mark where all these things just came rushing out and almost destroyed us. I mean, it was just, like a tsunami of difficulty. Lisa had been molested as a child. She'd had an abortion as a teenager. I had been a prodigal and gotten into all sorts of stuff myself.

And so all that flood just came out in our relationship and it almost destroyed us, except for obviously the blood of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. is the only thing that saved us. But I was just interested to hear, because I know, like Zach said, you recently did a podcast on marriage.

And so all that flood just came out in our relationship and it almost destroyed us, except for obviously the blood of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. is the only thing that saved us. But I was just interested to hear, because I know, like Zach said, you recently did a podcast on marriage.

No, the way we grew up, that's the last. That's what you do to finish it off. That's the way.

No, the way we grew up, that's the last. That's what you do to finish it off. That's the way.

Have you found that to be true in your walk in terms of people and how this early trauma in their lives have affected how they get married and how they stay married?

Have you found that to be true in your walk in terms of people and how this early trauma in their lives have affected how they get married and how they stay married?

I apologize. We're talking about marriage today. We're going to have a guest on the podcast later. We are, which I am super excited about. She's going to be amazing. And I thought, because we've been in John 2 in our study, which, of course, included a wedding. Jesus' first miraculous sign was at the wedding. And then it goes right into this idea of the temple, which is us.

I apologize. We're talking about marriage today. We're going to have a guest on the podcast later. We are, which I am super excited about. She's going to be amazing. And I thought, because we've been in John 2 in our study, which, of course, included a wedding. Jesus' first miraculous sign was at the wedding. And then it goes right into this idea of the temple, which is us.

Wow. So good. So I read this story about Alex, who is from Armenia. And this is one of those personal stories from Tomorrow Clubs. It's a tough country. It's a lot of tough things going on. There's a 13-year-old named Alex. Every day sells popcorn and ice cream just to try to help his family survive. And he joined a Tomorrow Club.

Wow. So good. So I read this story about Alex, who is from Armenia. And this is one of those personal stories from Tomorrow Clubs. It's a tough country. It's a lot of tough things going on. There's a 13-year-old named Alex. Every day sells popcorn and ice cream just to try to help his family survive. And he joined a Tomorrow Club.

And he didn't just hear about Jesus, but he learned how to follow him. And that's the beauty of what this program does. It helps people in the worst possible situations, not only see a way to something better, but a way to be able to share Jesus with other people.

And he didn't just hear about Jesus, but he learned how to follow him. And that's the beauty of what this program does. It helps people in the worst possible situations, not only see a way to something better, but a way to be able to share Jesus with other people.

And so I know she's going to bring some good insight. But one of the things I didn't get a chance to talk about when we were talking about that is our own weddings. When Lisa was here, she mentioned a little bit about ours, which was a fiasco because we planned our wedding from one week to the next per my instruction, which looking back on it was very insensitive to everybody that loves us.

And so I know she's going to bring some good insight. But one of the things I didn't get a chance to talk about when we were talking about that is our own weddings. When Lisa was here, she mentioned a little bit about ours, which was a fiasco because we planned our wedding from one week to the next per my instruction, which looking back on it was very insensitive to everybody that loves us.

But at that moment, I just hadn't learned yet to care that much about other people yet. And so literally we decided from one Friday to the next. So it was chaos, even in just too small. And there were only 30 people at our wedding. It was a backyard wedding. It was a backyard where we got married in the preacher's living room.

But at that moment, I just hadn't learned yet to care that much about other people yet. And so literally we decided from one Friday to the next. So it was chaos, even in just too small. And there were only 30 people at our wedding. It was a backyard wedding. It was a backyard where we got married in the preacher's living room.

Lisa, Jason and I are lobbying for a new cry on, on the bottom of Fox news or any of them that says broken news. Yeah. Cause this, this news has already been broken. And, uh, but what I was going to say, which by the way, Jesus, when he was addressed about marriage, actually about divorce, Matthew 19, guess where you at? Right where you're going.

Lisa, Jason and I are lobbying for a new cry on, on the bottom of Fox news or any of them that says broken news. Yeah. Cause this, this news has already been broken. And, uh, but what I was going to say, which by the way, Jesus, when he was addressed about marriage, actually about divorce, Matthew 19, guess where you at? Right where you're going.

Lisa had been kind of sort of kicked out of her house already anyway for marrying me. And so she had been staying at my grandparents until like three days before the wedding. And so she was driving her old, that old white Ford LTD. You remember it, Jace? It was a big car that mom and dad owned. And she ran out of gas. So my grandpa went out to help her put gas in it because she was still working.

Lisa had been kind of sort of kicked out of her house already anyway for marrying me. And so she had been staying at my grandparents until like three days before the wedding. And so she was driving her old, that old white Ford LTD. You remember it, Jace? It was a big car that mom and dad owned. And she ran out of gas. So my grandpa went out to help her put gas in it because she was still working.

And I said he's going to pull up one day in a convertible BMW with the top down, you know. He reminds me of our brother Willie.

And I said he's going to pull up one day in a convertible BMW with the top down, you know. He reminds me of our brother Willie.

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Lisa had a job. And he unfortunately poured kerosene into the gas tank instead of gasoline. Not a good idea. Not a good idea. And it will start up and get going because there's a little bit of gas left in the system, but it didn't go far. So when we were going to the wedding in that car, because it now had kerosene, we made it to not quite the end of Leannan Road.

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Jason, I don't know if you remember this. I remember it well. You were young. And we literally were sitting on the side of the road. Waiting on a ride.

Jason, I don't know if you remember this. I remember it well. You were young. And we literally were sitting on the side of the road. Waiting on a ride.

So you were late. You both were late to your own wedding? We were. Lisa had already been in town. I was late. But then my grandpa came by. He had a Ford Fiesta, which was about the size of this table.

So you were late. You both were late to your own wedding? We were. Lisa had already been in town. I was late. But then my grandpa came by. He had a Ford Fiesta, which was about the size of this table.

Little Ford Fiesta. And we all piled in there, about 10 of us. And that's how we arrived. That was the Prius before the Prius. Yeah, this was the pre-Prius. Well, I will confess. You could hear the gas sloshing in the tank when you reversed the car. That's how.

Little Ford Fiesta. And we all piled in there, about 10 of us. And that's how we arrived. That was the Prius before the Prius. Yeah, this was the pre-Prius. Well, I will confess. You could hear the gas sloshing in the tank when you reversed the car. That's how.

Now, and you know, every time we look at things that wonder how could this, uh,

Now, and you know, every time we look at things that wonder how could this, uh,

this philosophy occur what you described how could something like that be birthed we all know it had to come from the evil one i mean only he could devise plans like this that not just happened in a decade but happened over the course of a series of decades and so what you were describing in the 60s jace was living out in the 80s by all of his peers saying well you're an idiot

this philosophy occur what you described how could something like that be birthed we all know it had to come from the evil one i mean only he could devise plans like this that not just happened in a decade but happened over the course of a series of decades and so what you were describing in the 60s jace was living out in the 80s by all of his peers saying well you're an idiot

if you save yourself for marriage. So I think it's all the things that you described. Lisa, I realize we've got to have you back on because, as always, the best podcasts are the ones we can't believe we're out of time, which we are. But I want our folks to know how to find your information, your books. I have here lisabevere.com. Is that the best place to go to find your information?

if you save yourself for marriage. So I think it's all the things that you described. Lisa, I realize we've got to have you back on because, as always, the best podcasts are the ones we can't believe we're out of time, which we are. But I want our folks to know how to find your information, your books. I have here lisabevere.com. Is that the best place to go to find your information?

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The way it started. I thought, what are we doing?

The way it started. I thought, what are we doing?

But look, we were, I mean, that's just kind of the way we were. But then Jay's had the first big wedding, like the. a fancy wedding. Like the tuxedo? You wore like a tuxedo.

But look, we were, I mean, that's just kind of the way we were. But then Jay's had the first big wedding, like the. a fancy wedding. Like the tuxedo? You wore like a tuxedo.

I mean, Missy had some class, but our family, we still were, we hadn't, you know, changed that much. So we didn't even, we weren't sure if dad would come and he did.

I mean, Missy had some class, but our family, we still were, we hadn't, you know, changed that much. So we didn't even, we weren't sure if dad would come and he did.

I was one of the two officiants.

I was one of the two officiants.

Yeah, I was Zach's pick, and then Jill's pastor for many years was the other guy.

Yeah, I was Zach's pick, and then Jill's pastor for many years was the other guy.

I remember, yeah. What he said? Do you remember stuff he said? Because most people don't.

I remember, yeah. What he said? Do you remember stuff he said? Because most people don't.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's just a parallel of truth.

It's just a parallel of truth.

When you said that, I imagine like going to a restaurant and just looking at a T-bone steak.

When you said that, I imagine like going to a restaurant and just looking at a T-bone steak.

Which, by the way, he read this verse at Sadie's wedding. This was his... But everybody laughed. It was great. It was great. I mean, I think only dad could deliver this. But he wasn't being funny. No, he was not.

Which, by the way, he read this verse at Sadie's wedding. This was his... But everybody laughed. It was great. It was great. I mean, I think only dad could deliver this. But he wasn't being funny. No, he was not.

Well... No, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. But it was just a classic dad. I remember the verse.

Well... No, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. But it was just a classic dad. I remember the verse.

It was the voice of the prophet.

It was the voice of the prophet.

So it's 2025, Jace. Your words have finally hit home. It was time for me to lose a few pounds. And Zach's even picked up on it. Zach's going to join me. He doesn't need to lose as much as me, but Zach, you're going to lose a few as well.

So it's 2025, Jace. Your words have finally hit home. It was time for me to lose a few pounds. And Zach's even picked up on it. Zach's going to join me. He doesn't need to lose as much as me, but Zach, you're going to lose a few as well.

Well, thank you, Zach. And the reason this has happened is a group called PhD Weight Loss. Dr. Ashley Lucas is the founder. She's a registered dietitian. She has a PhD in sports nutrition and chronic disease. And she's got a passion for helping folks. And so she sends me a couple of emails, a couple of videos every week that I watch that are very informative.

Well, thank you, Zach. And the reason this has happened is a group called PhD Weight Loss. Dr. Ashley Lucas is the founder. She's a registered dietitian. She has a PhD in sports nutrition and chronic disease. And she's got a passion for helping folks. And so she sends me a couple of emails, a couple of videos every week that I watch that are very informative.

I will say that one of the differences in PhD and all the other diets I've tried is is Dr. Ashley and her team do a great job of explaining exactly what is going on in your body when you're trying to burn fat. And they teach you what to eat, when to eat. They work on your relationship with food. And they show you how to lose weight for life.

I will say that one of the differences in PhD and all the other diets I've tried is is Dr. Ashley and her team do a great job of explaining exactly what is going on in your body when you're trying to burn fat. And they teach you what to eat, when to eat. They work on your relationship with food. And they show you how to lose weight for life.

If you're watching this on YouTube, this is a picture of me as I began. I've been in the program now for seven weeks. I've lost 28 pounds. I feel great. I'm sleeping well. I'm not hungry on the diet, which is very important. What I love about it, there's no gimmicks, no pills, no shots, no side effects. Everything is natural. It's not rabbit food.

If you're watching this on YouTube, this is a picture of me as I began. I've been in the program now for seven weeks. I've lost 28 pounds. I feel great. I'm sleeping well. I'm not hungry on the diet, which is very important. What I love about it, there's no gimmicks, no pills, no shots, no side effects. Everything is natural. It's not rabbit food.

You know why? Because you're so much alike. I agree. That's the little secret here. You're dreamers. I told Chad Robichaud...

You know why? Because you're so much alike. I agree. That's the little secret here. You're dreamers. I told Chad Robichaud...

They provide about 80% of the food that I eat at no extra cost to you, which is a blessing for you guys out there. It's worth a look, especially if you're wanting to lose some pounds this year. Join me, join Zach on our weight loss journey. Schedule your one-on-one consultation today by calling 864-644-1900, or you can visit myphdweightloss.com. That's 864-644-1900. Tell them Al and Zach sent you.

They provide about 80% of the food that I eat at no extra cost to you, which is a blessing for you guys out there. It's worth a look, especially if you're wanting to lose some pounds this year. Join me, join Zach on our weight loss journey. Schedule your one-on-one consultation today by calling 864-644-1900, or you can visit myphdweightloss.com. That's 864-644-1900. Tell them Al and Zach sent you.

Well, it's so classic, Dad, because like Sadie has this, it's like she's getting married in Narnia. You know, the setup is just beautiful. There's probably, I don't know, a thousand people there or more. Louie Giglio, like one of our favorite pastors, is doing the wedding. And all of a sudden, here comes dear old dad with this right off the bat. And it was just a showstopper. It was so funny.

Well, it's so classic, Dad, because like Sadie has this, it's like she's getting married in Narnia. You know, the setup is just beautiful. There's probably, I don't know, a thousand people there or more. Louie Giglio, like one of our favorite pastors, is doing the wedding. And all of a sudden, here comes dear old dad with this right off the bat. And it was just a showstopper. It was so funny.

But you don't.

But you don't.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You could have read this verse. Yeah.

You could have read this verse. Yeah.

Right.

Right.

Oh, he's an extreme.

Oh, he's an extreme.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a sign.

Yeah.

She went, it scared her.

Sorry. That was the only one.

Okay.

I am unashamed. What about you?

He was asking me.

Yeah, he didn't want to wake her up, which I thought was funny. But I was like, well, why don't you go in there and ask her?

I was like, oh, no. Why did I buy that diamond? That was a reflection that I didn't know my Bible.

Speaking of ADD.

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. We were just laughing at Zach Jace, which we do a lot in leading up to our podcast. You said he's going through a midlife crisis.

Right.

And you're also seeing Paul. Remember, he's riding a fault line here between the Jewish mindset that he's been a part of. And now this Gentile. that comes in, this is like two rivers coming together. So when he's describing in Corinthians and Ephesians, he's also speaking to this same exact thing of temple and coming together husband and wife, but he's speaking to one group

that had a whole betrothal process. Everybody was a Hebrew. They understood Yahweh along with all these people that had no semblance of that whatsoever.

All right, we're going to land this plane. We've got our guests coming on, so we're going to take a break. When we come back, we'll introduce our guests for today.

I actually have a granddaughter that got married. So I'm just, you know, at any moment's notice from being a great-grandfather, Zach. So, yes, it went by super fast.

That's why Chase and I didn't get invited. Yep, I didn't get the invite. We just found out. Thank you, Lisa, for clearing that up. I was like, why didn't we get to go to London? Oh, it's for only smart people. Okay, we got it.

But if you have four boys and a lot of grandkids, you're doing a lot of cooking. I know that at some point into the process.

Yeah, we have a yearly marriage refresh we do for our church, but it's kind of expanded now. because we have such an impact because of this podcast and other reasons. So we've got people that come from all over the country for a couple of weekends. And it's just really neat. Lisa and I usually are a part of it. Sometimes we do some teaching. This time we did a little bit of our story.

And one of the things, Lisa, that I was very interested in, and I haven't read any books yet that you've written, but I'm excited to do that,

is we talk a lot about sort of the trauma of our own lives as individuals and how the way we describe it is we came into marriage and we had this picture of this giant pile of suitcases and we said we just brought all these suitcases in, but instead of really opening them up and kind of seeing what was all in there, we just kind of stuffed them in every available crawl space of our marriage.

But you act like that's out of bounds.

And then all of a sudden it was like a spring trap that came about, you know, for us about the 15 year mark where all these things just came rushing out and almost destroyed us. I mean, it was just, like a tsunami of difficulty. Lisa had been molested as a child. She'd had an abortion as a teenager. I had been a prodigal and gotten into all sorts of stuff myself.

And so all that flood just came out in our relationship and it almost destroyed us, except for obviously the blood of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. is the only thing that saved us. But I was just interested to hear, because I know, like Zach said, you recently did a podcast on marriage.

No, the way we grew up, that's the last. That's what you do to finish it off. That's the way.

Have you found that to be true in your walk in terms of people and how this early trauma in their lives have affected how they get married and how they stay married?

I apologize. We're talking about marriage today. We're going to have a guest on the podcast later. We are, which I am super excited about. She's going to be amazing. And I thought, because we've been in John 2 in our study, which, of course, included a wedding. Jesus' first miraculous sign was at the wedding. And then it goes right into this idea of the temple, which is us.

Wow. So good. So I read this story about Alex, who is from Armenia. And this is one of those personal stories from Tomorrow Clubs. It's a tough country. It's a lot of tough things going on. There's a 13-year-old named Alex. Every day sells popcorn and ice cream just to try to help his family survive. And he joined a Tomorrow Club.

And he didn't just hear about Jesus, but he learned how to follow him. And that's the beauty of what this program does. It helps people in the worst possible situations, not only see a way to something better, but a way to be able to share Jesus with other people.

And so I know she's going to bring some good insight. But one of the things I didn't get a chance to talk about when we were talking about that is our own weddings. When Lisa was here, she mentioned a little bit about ours, which was a fiasco because we planned our wedding from one week to the next per my instruction, which looking back on it was very insensitive to everybody that loves us.

But at that moment, I just hadn't learned yet to care that much about other people yet. And so literally we decided from one Friday to the next. So it was chaos, even in just too small. And there were only 30 people at our wedding. It was a backyard wedding. It was a backyard where we got married in the preacher's living room.

Lisa, Jason and I are lobbying for a new cry on, on the bottom of Fox news or any of them that says broken news. Yeah. Cause this, this news has already been broken. And, uh, but what I was going to say, which by the way, Jesus, when he was addressed about marriage, actually about divorce, Matthew 19, guess where you at? Right where you're going.

Lisa had been kind of sort of kicked out of her house already anyway for marrying me. And so she had been staying at my grandparents until like three days before the wedding. And so she was driving her old, that old white Ford LTD. You remember it, Jace? It was a big car that mom and dad owned. And she ran out of gas. So my grandpa went out to help her put gas in it because she was still working.

And I said he's going to pull up one day in a convertible BMW with the top down, you know. He reminds me of our brother Willie.

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Lisa had a job. And he unfortunately poured kerosene into the gas tank instead of gasoline. Not a good idea. Not a good idea. And it will start up and get going because there's a little bit of gas left in the system, but it didn't go far. So when we were going to the wedding in that car, because it now had kerosene, we made it to not quite the end of Leannan Road.

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Jason, I don't know if you remember this. I remember it well. You were young. And we literally were sitting on the side of the road. Waiting on a ride.

So you were late. You both were late to your own wedding? We were. Lisa had already been in town. I was late. But then my grandpa came by. He had a Ford Fiesta, which was about the size of this table.

Little Ford Fiesta. And we all piled in there, about 10 of us. And that's how we arrived. That was the Prius before the Prius. Yeah, this was the pre-Prius. Well, I will confess. You could hear the gas sloshing in the tank when you reversed the car. That's how.

Now, and you know, every time we look at things that wonder how could this, uh,

this philosophy occur what you described how could something like that be birthed we all know it had to come from the evil one i mean only he could devise plans like this that not just happened in a decade but happened over the course of a series of decades and so what you were describing in the 60s jace was living out in the 80s by all of his peers saying well you're an idiot

if you save yourself for marriage. So I think it's all the things that you described. Lisa, I realize we've got to have you back on because, as always, the best podcasts are the ones we can't believe we're out of time, which we are. But I want our folks to know how to find your information, your books. I have here lisabevere.com. Is that the best place to go to find your information?

So check out Lisa and John and what they're doing in their podcast. Lisa, thank you for coming on Unashamed. You fit in beautifully here, and you're always welcome back. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube.

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The way it started. I thought, what are we doing?

But look, we were, I mean, that's just kind of the way we were. But then Jay's had the first big wedding, like the. a fancy wedding. Like the tuxedo? You wore like a tuxedo.

I mean, Missy had some class, but our family, we still were, we hadn't, you know, changed that much. So we didn't even, we weren't sure if dad would come and he did.

I was one of the two officiants.

Yeah, I was Zach's pick, and then Jill's pastor for many years was the other guy.

I remember, yeah. What he said? Do you remember stuff he said? Because most people don't.

Yeah.

It's just a parallel of truth.

When you said that, I imagine like going to a restaurant and just looking at a T-bone steak.

Which, by the way, he read this verse at Sadie's wedding. This was his... But everybody laughed. It was great. It was great. I mean, I think only dad could deliver this. But he wasn't being funny. No, he was not.

Well... No, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. But it was just a classic dad. I remember the verse.

It was the voice of the prophet.

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Well, thank you, Zach. And the reason this has happened is a group called PhD Weight Loss. Dr. Ashley Lucas is the founder. She's a registered dietitian. She has a PhD in sports nutrition and chronic disease. And she's got a passion for helping folks. And so she sends me a couple of emails, a couple of videos every week that I watch that are very informative.

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Well, it's so classic, Dad, because like Sadie has this, it's like she's getting married in Narnia. You know, the setup is just beautiful. There's probably, I don't know, a thousand people there or more. Louie Giglio, like one of our favorite pastors, is doing the wedding. And all of a sudden, here comes dear old dad with this right off the bat. And it was just a showstopper. It was so funny.

But you don't.

Yeah.

You could have read this verse. Yeah.

Right.

Oh, he's an extreme.

Yeah.

Exactly.