Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1071 | Jase Secretly Helps a Missionary Family & Al Emotionally Dreams About Phil’s Legacy
Wed, 09 Apr 2025
Jase shares how one secret act of kindness toward a missionary family may have opened the door to something bigger. Al recounts a deeply emotional dream involving Phil, Donald Trump, and a presidential medal, and the guys reflect on their generational fear of the potluck dinner. They dive into John 6 and the miracle of Jesus feeding the 5,000, unpacking how God takes what little we have and multiplies it beyond what we could imagine. In this episode: John 6, verses 1-15; Matthew 6, verses 7-8; Deuteronomy 18, verse 15 “Unashamed” Episode 1071 is sponsored by: https://preborn.com/unashamed — Click the link or dial #250 and use keyword BABY to donate today. https://donewithdebt.com — Start building the life you deserve and talk with one of their strategists today. It’s FREE! https://fastgrowingtrees.com/unashamed — Save up to half-off on select plants and when you use code UNASHAMED at checkout you’ll get an additional 15% off! https://myphdweightloss.com — Find out how Al is finally losing weight! Schedule your one-on-one consultation today by visiting the website or calling 864-644-1900. Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What secret act of kindness did Jase do for a missionary family?
I'm out.
I'm out. I never got past the name. Oh, we're having a potluck. Everybody's invited. Well, I'm not going to be there.
Well, that's what dad used to say when he talked about, you know, take everything out of the refrigerator, throw it in a pot. Hey, maybe we'll get lucky. You know, that was the way he described it. So let me tell you this, because Jay, you talked about a weird night. So it was night before last, which was the night last night we recorded the podcast a couple of days ago.
And I did something, I'm trying to think if I've ever done it. I don't know if y'all have ever done this before. I woke up and I was crying. Like I had tears on my face. And it was from this dream I was having. And it was about dad, you know, because, you know, all of us have been concerned. I pray all the time for him and, you know, for him, mom.
And so a lot of times I think about it before I go to sleep. You know, it's the time I spend with the almighty to close out the day he blessed me with. But in my dream, President Trump was awarding dad the Presidential Medal of Honor, whatever they do for civilians. And, of course, Dad couldn't be there. And so we were there, Jace. It was all the boys. And Phyllis was there, too.
And we were receiving it on his behalf. And, you know, I rarely remember a dream. I've dreamed things before, and I thought, man, I woke up. Like, what happened? It was something scary or whatever. But I couldn't remember the details. But this one was so clear. But I don't know that I've ever cried in a dream and then woke up with actual tears on my face. Have you ever done that?
I've never done that, but that's an interesting thought.
Yeah, I mean, it was so it was so impactful to me. The dream was I was so proud, you know, in the moment that like Trump was recognizing dad. And look, Trump said in the in his like thing when he was, you know, giving us the medal, he said, this man shared the gospel with me, you know, and I've always remembered it. So he says what dad always says about him. So I guess that was it.
It was just it was a weird thing. But I mean, I've never woke up crying before that I can remember. Maybe I have. So one of the things I wish, Zach, that I had learned about early in life was that living above your means and going into debt is something that follows you for a long time. And it puts a lot of strain on your family, on your relationships, and even on your marriage.
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Chapter 2: What emotional dream did Al have about Phil?
It was literally, that's what it was, a wash pot that was converted. into a pot that you cook jambalaya in. And the burner was kind of made specifically for that pot. Well, now they've got a whole cottage industry. You order these pots that are made, and they have little heat shields around them. The game just keeps elevating them.
And the story continues, but there's something central about humans getting around a meal together that does bring some kind of something. There's something spiritual about that.
You know, to back up your point, Zach, when we used to rent big houses down here, when the whole family would come and now we're so big we can't do it anymore. But in the old days, we did. Lisa got to where she would ask.
before we would rent a house, because there's a lot of Louisiana people that own houses down here, especially from South Louisiana, she would say, is this house owned by someone from Louisiana? And the reason we asked that is because we knew the cooking equipment would be there that we needed for our week with the pots and pans and everything else.
So, I mean, we literally asked the question before we would rent a house, is it Louisiana owned?
Yeah. So, and you got a member. Up until this point, it's been a lot about water. And when you think about the importance of food and water, you're getting down there to survival. Yeah. Not to mention the experiences that y'all are talking about. I mean, even, you know, our show that took off, I think the reason it did is because you had people gathered around a table, eating a meal together.
Which is unheard of now in our culture. Everybody goes and gets their strains and goes to their rooms and does their own thing.
Well, you remember Adam Carolla said that when he was on our podcast a few years ago. He mentioned about – because he's agnostic or atheist or used to be, I guess. I don't know if he still is. But he said, you know, I admire you Christians was the way he put it. Talking about us. He said, on your show, the way you do it.
He said, when I come into my house, everybody goes to their rooms to eat their meals and nobody's ever together. He said, but when I go to Dennis Prager, who's Jewish, or I watch you guys on TV, he said, y'all seem to really like being around the table together. It was just an interesting observation, I thought, and almost like he lamented it, that he didn't have it in his own family.
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Chapter 3: Why do the Robertsons have a fear of potluck dinners?
Which is why I think I said before, I think that's why we wound up on television, because you had your little moment, the spotlight on the table and you didn't want to blow it. You want to have something to say that was either funny or, you know, mattered. You didn't want to waste your moments. You didn't get that many. Yeah.
So you may read this, John 6.
Yep.
Or I'll read some of it.
Read at least the first 15 verses, Joseph. Let's get into that, which is the actual miracle.
So we're coming off the difference in Moses and following Moses and Jesus being the fulfillment of Moses, which is a key context for where we're going here. Yep.
So then it says, sometime after this, this is John 6, 1, Jesus crossed to the far shore of the Sea of Galilee, that is the Sea of Tiberias, and a great crowd of people followed him because they saw the signs he had performed by healing the sick. Then Jesus went up on a mountainside and sat down with his disciples. Now, here's another key verse, verse 4. The Jewish Passover festival was near.
So this is the second time. This is brought up where Jesus is going to do something cool when the festival of the Passover was celebrated. So the first time was in John 2 where he cleared the temple.
And talked about his resurrection.
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Chapter 4: What lesson can we learn from John 6 about God's provision?
So speaking of day of liberation, I mean, when I first heard that coming out, Trump, I guess a few days ago by the time you're hearing this, said there's a day of liberation. And I thought every day is a day of liberation as a follower of Jesus. We're making new creations. The old is gone. But that was their day of liberation as a nation, as a people.
So I think that's a key thing to remember because I put that little phrase in your mind, a lamb was eaten, blood was spilled and put on the doorframe from the lamb and it was eaten.
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And then the celebration of that, Jase, is a meal. I mean, you eat that lamb, you eat the unleavened bread, the herbs, all the stuff that goes with it.
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Chapter 5: How do food and family connect in the Robertson household?
And I just thought, just immediately think, you think, well, that doesn't seem like a very profound question, but how many times have you had people coming over saying, And especially for people who cook of our reputation, this is a serious thing for us. Getting ready to feed people for people like our family is a big deal.
So true.
It's all hands on deck. We've got the best places in mind. Price is not the issue. That means nothing. I mean, you'll pay... Twice as much as something's worth.
Best brand, the brand, the best one. You're not going cheap at any level. It's abundance.
Because there's going to come a moment in these festivities where people take that first bite of a meal that you've prepared. And what they think matters to my family a whole lot.
That's right.
And basically my dad was overblown if they didn't say, because he's as soon as you take the first bite, you remember what he would tell people out? Every person that ever sat there. What about it? What do you think? What about it? What about it? And if they hesitated, he said, is that the best thing you've ever eaten in your life?
Is that the best thing you've ever laid a lip on? That's the way he said it.
So he asked that question, but then there's a clarification because he asked this. John intervenes here, which I love how John takes it upon himself to say it. He asked this only to test him. So in verse 7, Philip answered him, it would take more than a half a year's wages to buy enough bread for each one to have a bite.
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